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5

I think it’s largely true, but not an absolute state of always being unfavorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:56 PM
9

Uh, by the same people who would class kindness, emotional availability, ability to love, and nurture as feminine qualities. The very claim that those are feminine qualities implies that they’re non-masculine and thereby not expected, de facto traits of masculine people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:53 PM
8

Yes, but it’s more that women are expected to maintain those traits / behave in this way as part of being “ladylike” or feminine. Men are often excused from maintaining those skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:45 PM
13

Well. Yes and no. Sex is an important part of a relationship (most of the time, I know that there are asexual people out there who are still interested in romantic relationships), but there are times when it can definitely be put on the back burner when all the intricacies of life come into play. Like I had a baby last April and our sex life is only now getting the opportunity to even begin recovering. Despite that though, my husband and I still have maintained emotional intimacy. I can only spe…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/25 03:28 AM
15

I’ve not ever seen anyone say that sex is the least important part of a relationship and to just get with someone you’re not attracted to…? I agree that it’s not the most important factor, but I’ve not seen this “well who cares about sexual intimacy anyway” thing.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/25 01:47 AM
0

Sure. I’m just not sure how that figures in with what my comment said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:51 AM
0

Except the majority of people don’t fall neatly into categories of “good” or “bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:33 AM
3

Everyone I’ve ever dated has been morally decent. That doesn’t mean that the relationship was good or even healthy between us. You and a few others in the thread seem to be confusing “his small quirks ultimately drove me crazy and he didn’t express affection the same way I do,” with “he physically hurt me, insulted me, and was unfaithful.” Not to say that there aren’t plenty of people in the latter category. But as a rule, most relationships end because of small things building up over time, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:34 PM
2

There’s a difference between someone ultimately being incompatible with you and being a bad person. Most relationships end over petty grievances that turn into looming resentments. That doesn’t mean that anyone chose a bad person or only focused on external factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:29 PM
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Case in point. This is such a good reinforcement of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:22 PM
0

Whatever Andrew Tate told him it’s about. When your only information about feminism comes from anti-feminist podcasters, you’re trained to discount and deny actual feminist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:23 PM
2

Your argument is hard to follow, mostly because your grammar makes it nearly impossible to tell what you’re actually trying to say. But from what I can decipher, you’re claiming that insecurity about one’s past is a reliable way to “vet” people, while also insisting that the most desirable women wouldn’t be offended by being interrogated about theirs. So which is it? Is insecurity a red flag, or is demanding someone’s sexual history just standard procedure? Because if your “vetting process” invo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:15 PM
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Interesting. So, in your experience, men are capable of growth and self-improvement, but women are permanently defined by their past struggles? That’s a bold take. Almost like personal development is being assessed selectively based on gender rather than actual human capacity for change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:11 PM
1

Nowhere in her post did OP make any of these claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:00 PM
2

I think part of the issue is he keeps using an inaccurate word (“insure”) and I genuinely don’t know if he means “insecure” or “unsure.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:59 PM
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You keep claiming you’re “just describing things,” but your entire argument is framed around women making themselves unmarriageable while men are merely reacting. If this is just a neutral observation, why does every explanation circle back to women needing to change their behavior? Also, if a “moderate conservative shift” is the answer, what does that actually look like in practice? Are you suggesting policy changes, cultural shame, legal incentives? Or is this just another vague call for socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:21 PM
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So just to clarify: You’re saying men’s drive for success was always about building a family, not sex. But also, the primary incentive for men to build a family was the sexual exclusivity of marriage. And now that women no longer “need” marriage for survival, men are giving up on ambition. If that’s the case, what’s your actual point? Do you believe society functioned better when women’s economic survival depended on marriage? And if so, what do you propose as a solution to reverse this so-calle…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:31 AM
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The entire argument is a badly stitched-together Frankenstein of pseudo-history, pop anthropology, gender resentment, and apocalyptic doom-mongering. He can’t decide if patriarchy was a necessary evil or a glorious, functional system. He blames women for men’s declining ambition, as if personal drive only exists when sex is a reward. He ignores economic, technological, and cultural shifts that actually impact workforce trends, instead blaming it all on female empowerment. He claims birth rates a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:13 AM
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“A lot” is subjective. When compared to my personal consumption of it, you watch about 5,000% as much porn as I do. So in my opinion, it’s a huge amount of time spent watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:46 PM
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That doesn’t negate my comment, though. I’m not talking about averages or about time spent on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:28 PM
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A couple hours a week is a lot. Genuinely that’s maybe how much time I spend consuming porn in a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:22 AM
2

Silly woman. (Same)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:33 PM
4

Kinda into your take here, AssPlay69420.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:21 PM
6

It means both how he used it and what you’re thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:20 PM
1

C’mon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:56 PM
10

How you treat yourself is your problem. How you treat others is everyone’s problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:19 PM
7

Thank you for this, your comment really adds to the multiple other replies saying this. Maybe it wasn’t obvious before, but your contribution really highlights what an obvious, transparent, and half-assed attempt at a “gotcha” this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:27 PM
2

Whataboutism makes me tired 😴
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:40 PM
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Whatever women do, men who hate women* will never like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:51 PM
2

No. Contrary to what you may believe, feminists do not say that every single relationship issue in every single relationship is men’s fault across the board. Which is what OP’s claim is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:37 AM
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He’s saying that his ex’s behavior was a turn off to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:32 PM
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Yeah I’m not commenting on that portion of the comment, I just thought it was humorous how your response was ironically reinforcing the notion that men don’t put effort toward thing that she was saying men don’t put effort toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:41 PM
3

You’re not helping your case. Dressing for your body type isn’t just about wearing the correct size. It’s about choosing styles, cuts, and fabrics that flatter your proportions. Two men can wear the same size, but one might look effortlessly stylish while the other looks awkward because of how their clothes fit their shape. Understanding what works best for your body is a skill, and saying most straight men don’t do this isn’t nonsense. It’s an observation about how many men default to whatever …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:31 PM
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No, it’s by no means the closest you can get to a 1:1 comparison. The value of sex and the value of the cost of a date aren’t equal. But coming back to my original point, you will find that feminist discourse encourages women to pay for their own portion of dates or pay for dates as a whole rather than depend on men to fill the patriarchal provider role. And again, I’d like to repeat that this “men are shunned, women are celebrated” attitude is not as universal as you are implying. If that were …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:28 PM
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I disagree with the universality of your scenarios here, in real life there are plenty of people who would feel various ways towards both these situations, regardless of the gender of those involved. It would be more helpful to give a 1:1 comparison, which I noticed OP didn’t do in his post, either. I think it would be potentially awkward, entitled, or presumptive for a man or a woman to announce on the first date that they expect sex to be involved. I don’t think that’s a fringe belief, either.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:22 PM
4

Oddly specific
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:18 PM
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I think you’re just reinforcing u/attendquoi ‘s point with this comment 💀. Not understanding how dressing for your body type is separate from dressing to your taste / style preferences is a pretty good indicator that you’re not dressing to your body type (or that if you are it’s just a happy accident).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:14 PM
5

Can you be a little more specific about what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:07 PM
8

Even if you don’t explicitly say you’re against feminism, your post follows a pattern that’s common in anti-feminist spaces, framing women as receiving sympathy while men are blamed. Feminism itself challenges many of the same unfair expectations that you’re frustrated about. There’s no need to pit men and women against each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:53 PM
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Writing a Reddit post that blames feminism does not change custody laws, social policies, or family court biases. If you genuinely want to address these issues, you should be taking direct action, such as: - Supporting or starting advocacy groups that fight for fair custody laws. - Petitioning legislators for legal changes to family court policies. - Volunteering for or donating to organizations that help single fathers gain custody or co-parent effectively. - Encouraging men to be active parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:42 PM
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The misrepresentation of feminist ideals here makes me wonder if your only information about feminism has come to you from anti-feminist manosphere perspectives. Feminism encourages the balanced, nuanced approach to gender differences that you’re looking for men to benefit from. However, you do not seem to extend that same consideration to women’s issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:29 PM
8

It’s because he’s not here to debate, he’s here to rant and reinforce his beliefs. The irony is that it’s actually counterproductive to his cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:04 PM
4

😢
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:03 PM
2

Can you elaborate on that? What does that look like for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:57 PM
18

Maybe Google is more free at my house than it is at OP’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:24 PM
7

Mhmm. Many more men do exactly that than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:19 PM
3

Oh look! Another emotionally-driven rant in which statistics are cherry-picked, claims are made with zero supporting evidence, and feminism is used as a scapegoat. Here’s a question for OP: what are you personally doing to right these societal wrongs?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:16 PM
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No, I’m certainly not of the same intellect as a man who isn’t able to grasp the difference between you’re/your and they’re/their/there. Thank goodness for my useless college education.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:09 PM
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As a final comment, I asked AI to summarize what conclusions it would draw about you as a person based on the comments you made in this thread. (Also as a note, I haven’t read any of what you’ve been saying, you’ve been arguing with a robot): He exhibits a consistent pattern of confirmation bias, selective reasoning, and black-and-white thinking, which makes meaningful discussion with him difficult. His arguments rely heavily on broad generalizations, anecdotal evidence, and logical fallacies, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:59 PM
2

Addressing Your Claims: “Most men never went to universities either.” • You argue that only wealthy men went to universities historically, implying that women were not uniquely excluded. However: • While education was class-based, women were also excluded for gender-based reasons. Even wealthy women were barred from higher education for centuries in many societies. • The fact that only some men had access does not disprove that women were disproportionately restricted based on gender. • The firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:47 PM
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Addressing Your Arguments Step by Step 1. Generalization Does Not Mean Majority Automatically • You claim that “generalization means majority.” However, a generalization can also be a broad or oversimplified claim that does not necessarily reflect accurate statistical data. If you meant “most” rather than “all,” you should provide actual numbers rather than anecdotal observations. • Additionally, human history has been shaped by patriarchal structures, meaning societal roles were not purely dete…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:41 PM
2

Chat says: Here’s how I would respond, point by point: “Men didn’t need the government to force women out; men naturally dominated leadership roles.” Your argument assumes that because men historically created and dominated certain fields, their continued dominance is purely natural rather than influenced by social, historical, and systemic factors. However: • Historically, women were explicitly excluded from many fields, not because they were incapable but because of legal and cultural restrict…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:33 PM
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Chat says: This response contains several issues that can be addressed systematically. Here’s how I would respond: “You asserted I said ALL women.” Your original comment made broad generalizations about women, which strongly implied an all-encompassing statement. For example, you said, “Yes I have a low opinion of women. Simply because women are hypocrites.” Without qualification, this statement suggests that hypocrisy is a universal trait among women. If your intention was to refer only to some…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:26 PM
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I asked ChatGPT to analyze the logical reasoning of your comment, out of curiosity. Anyway: This comment contains multiple logical fallacies. Here’s a breakdown: 1. Hasty Generalization – The commenter makes broad claims about all women based on selective examples. Saying “women are hypocrites” based on specific grievances ignores the diversity of perspectives among women. 2. Straw Man Fallacy – The argument distorts feminist and gender equality arguments. Women advocating for equal representati…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:58 PM
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I follow the AskAnEscort sub out of mild curiosity for what their lives are like. There was a post there this morning about this exact topic (literally titled “Will an Escort Teach Me How To Have Sex?”). And one of the comments was something about making it a pinned post because of how commonly this is asked over there. So I’d say yes, they would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:11 PM
20

Lmao what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:23 PM
35

The call is coming from inside the house. And they’re calling to say “marry me or else”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:10 PM
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My comment is more about a select group of men I see on the internet. Men who have never had a relationship with a woman, but say that AWALT / mean / overly emotional/ whatever because of a negative experience they had with a mean girl when they were 15. In truth it’s more an incel thing than a TRP thing, but there’s definitely overlap. I’m not talking about people learning from their relationships, and I don’t really think your first comment to me was about that either — it was a hyperbolic ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:28 PM
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I’m the one projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:48 PM
2

…do you realize that rape is a real thing that happens, though? Witches don’t exist, rapists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:30 PM
2

That’s something everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:23 PM
1

What emotion?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:23 PM
1

Yeah, that’s a pretty fundamental tenet of TRP, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:50 PM
0

You may need to refine your sm feed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:21 PM
1

Yeah I’ve actually never heard any adult woman lamenting anything that a high school boy once said or did (other than sexual assault)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:35 PM
0

I’m not sure you understand what irony is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:07 PM
14

That sounds like goalpost shifting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:19 AM
3

That’s not the point of the post at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:03 AM
2

I’m deeply disappointed that the utter irony of your comment is lost on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:02 AM
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Ohhh number two is an interesting point. I’ll have to look for that. I’ve long suspected that a lot of this comes down to projecting past hurt (I’m talking like a high school bully) onto total strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:59 AM
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OP stated that they had kids. I’d qualify multiple pregnancies as a serious health condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:54 AM
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Allowed? Idk. But I’ll co-sign that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:52 AM
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That source says that men feel more confident in responding to a natural disaster (flood), but that women have greater knowledge on how to actually react. Basically says that men know less but have such giant egos that they think they’re more prepared.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:03 AM
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I’d die for my child in a heartbeat. And I don’t mean that as a figure of speech, I mean that without hesitation I would give my life for her. Which is partially why I don’t think I’d intentionally put myself in harms way for a total stranger. I’m the primary parent and my daughter needs me to be around for her. I’m sure I’m not the only woman who feels that way. I wonder if OP has anyone in his life who he knows he would sacrifice himself for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:59 AM
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While mothers were physically restrained outside the school because they were trying to get inside to save their children
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:29 AM
1

Thank you for perfectly illustrating how seriously I should be worrying about this issue (not at all)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:37 PM
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Why are we pretending that there is no third option? You say “just like in real life…” but in real life we compromise. If I had to choose for some reason, I’d rather be the decision maker. But again, that’s not how real life is structured, nor should it be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:17 PM
1

I’m just scrolling through here but I had to comment because his reaction to you having normal feelings is super manipulative and inappropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:17 PM
1

That doesn’t necessarily need to include porn though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:15 PM
1

Truly spoken like someone with an active porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:51 PM
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If you’re really and truly going your own way? Great, happy for you, I hope you’re at peace, etc. But in my experience it’s not going your own way, it’s more reminiscent of the kid holding their finger a centimeter from your face and yelling “I’m not touching you!”
/r/ExRedPill08/01/25 01:54 AM
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What do you mean? I kinda feel like you’re misusing the word because I don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:00 PM
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Personally, nothing dries me up quite like the sort of man who mansplains female attraction to women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:42 PM
3

It’s a new one for me as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:33 PM
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Sacrifice is something like moving cross country for someone’s career. Or giving up a career to raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:48 PM
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I agree! I saw a thread one time asking what a good example of the female gaze was and I answered Jamie Fraser from the Outlander series. The way he cares for his wife is such an attractive thing. “When the day shall come that we do part, if my last words are not ‘I love you,’ you know it’s because I didn’t have time.” UGH
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 04:53 PM
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Probably not, idk? But either way I meant like actual ability to become aroused and also finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:23 AM
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Yeah I wasn’t excluding myself from that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:21 PM
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Okay. Can you explain the effort thing though?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:33 PM
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“His efforts in the relationship do not coincide with hers”? What does that mean? Is this an actual situation you’re in or just a hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:41 PM
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I think this every time I read comments here lamenting the woes of child support and alimony. 95% of the guys I see posting on these topics have never been married or reproduced. Or one time when I saw someone talking about how unfair it is that he was expected to always pay for a date. I asked if he’d tried having conversations ahead of time about payment so that he could avoid that situation, and he said he’d never been on a date. 💀 But they’ll still dismiss you when you try to refute their po…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:30 PM
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In my experience neither one of these are common concerns. But I do think the porn thing is more valid because of its use within the confines of the relationship as well as the fact that it can change how you view actual sex with your partner It also isnt a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:26 PM
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Ah! Gotcha haha. Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:13 PM
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I’m not assuming that? Or I’m not trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:03 PM
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I’m struggling to follow. But I think that OP’s post is less to do with historic consumption of porn and rather is about use of porn within a relationship. Which is why your comparison to someone’s past history of irl sex doesn’t track.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:01 PM
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I think it has more to do with using another’s body for your sexual pleasure. To clarify, this isn’t a boundary I personally have in my marriage. But I understand why it is a hard line for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:57 PM
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There’s a couple people chiming in here in the comments saying they feel weird about using porn while in a committed relationship. I agree on your point regarding exclusivity and what that means, that wasn’t my point, but yes you should be having conversations about monogamy and what you define monogamy as. Either way, I understand that this view of porn isn’t a popular one, but my question remains why we view it to be acceptable in the context of a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:47 PM
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I think husband material is more personal than that. There’s plenty of genuinely nice, caring guys out there who I wouldn’t describe as “husband material” because they wouldn’t be compatible with me. Aside from that, this Achilles Heel of crippling insecurity nullifies that “amazing, loving” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:45 PM
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I’d like to challenge this by pointing out that if you start dating someone (let’s just assume you’re a woman dating a hetero man for simplicity’s sake), you go into the relationship knowing that he’s interested in and attracted to other women. But the overwhelmingly popular assumption is that the man will no longer act on that desire for other women out of respect for your monogamous relationship. How is the use of porn any different? Just because it’s anonymous?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:41 PM
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Tbf we have way too much screen time and we’re all addicted to our phones. So I wouldn’t say that this is stupid logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:38 PM
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The label of “husband material” isn’t yours to give, it’s up for the potential spouse to decide on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:57 PM
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That doesn’t really answer the question though. Unless you’ve repeatedly seen her with other men, you’re basing your conclusions on a lot of assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:56 PM
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As much empathy as women have “demanded” or as much empathy as women have received? Two different things. I think men are on the receiving end of the same empathy they’ve been giving. At least that’s how I personally have been approaching the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:37 PM
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You mean the ones they did on animals where their oxytocin receptors were removed? That still showed the same mating patterns as the ones with normal oxytocin receptors?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 12:49 AM
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You lost me at “I know women say they’re happy as they are, but I think they would be happier if they did the thing that would make me happy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 05:48 PM
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What is it that you think women should be doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 05:33 PM
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I think you’re missing the point of the comment you’re replying to. It isn’t “these guys are underestimating the amount of socialization needed to meet a woman.” It’s “these guys are underestimating the amount of socialization needed to train themselves out of their social awkwardness.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:10 PM
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Again, context really matters. Is this on TikTok, at a party, at work…? What specifically is being said? But in general: no, they quite literally will not. They won’t care. This is such a weird argument because what you’re suggesting isn’t even remotely valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:48 AM
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I’m not personally trying to be funny if I talk about them. But your specific example mentions how no one thinks it’s funny when someone tells those jokes. The issue is those jokes suck. I feel like I need more context, because so far I do just feel like this comes down to you confusing immature humor with people being offended by your usage of anatomical terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:38 AM
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…Hillary Clinton? Your rebuttal is Hillary Clinton? I think that’s hardly the peak of relevance. I don’t honestly know if it’s a minority / majority thing. I’d suspect the majority are against it, but I don’t actually know. I do know that opposing it is definitely not a fringe belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:35 AM
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Have you considered that the reason that no one laughs at these jokes is that they’re simply just not funny
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:28 AM
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I’m not educated enough on either topic to make that sort of statement and I honestly don’t want to be. I’m perfectly content to just not cut bits off any kids I have and call it good. But again, not at all a unique perspective from a feminist standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:25 AM
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It’s a very common stance among feminists? I had a baby in the spring and we definitely were not going to circumcise if it was a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:21 AM
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Do you realize you can really want something, choose that thing, and not love every minute detail of that thing? Also, fwiw, only fraternal twins have a genetic component. Identical twins are random.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:38 AM
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100%. Like I mentioned, I have my daughter who is the absolute light of my life and I would be devastated if one day she was a victim of violence like this. But if she were a boy I wouldn’t feel any differently. We’re all entitled to basic human dignity. Cool thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:27 PM
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Yeah, it’s definitely not okay and I think it’s an unfair double standard against men…and I don’t think I’ve ever said that in this sub, so congrats lol. I think it’s based on a couple of things. I’ve seen plenty of sitcoms and romcoms, most of which are aimed at families / teen-ish aged audiences, that will include a woman slapping a man as a comedic bit. Like you mentioned, I don’t think it’s actually physically hurting anyone in most cases where these are translated to real life, but it’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:19 PM
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I found similar numbers! I misinterpreted your post at first somehow and was reading the numbers in hetero relationships as “sex who had claim made against them” rather than “sex making the claim” (idk why) and i thought it was weird because it was the opposite of what I was finding. But my brain was just flipped around. Also I kinda get your incognito thing, google told me help was available if I need it. My husband better hope I don’t go mysteriously missing. As for your actual post, I think y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:54 PM
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Sorry, do you mind sharing your source? Not trying to cast doubt I just wanted to look for myself and am struggling to find these numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:35 PM
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The first thread you saw when you looked…where? I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m responding to your comment about how women don’t get to complain about pregnancy/ birth / breastfeeding being hard when they went into it knowing it would be hard. Now you’re talking to me about someone’s husband ignoring a birthday party, which imo has nothing to do with anything but does show that you possess a concerning lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:06 PM
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I thought I’d gotten shadow banned lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:01 PM
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Fair enough. From my perspective 5 or 6 is still crazy. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:46 PM
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I think Reddit is glitching. I made several comments that just disappeared and then reappeared about an hour later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:46 PM
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The “loads of kids” thing is definitely being promoted as a traditional ideal in some circles. But definitely overlooks the historical necessity of having several children from a labor perspective. As well as the fact that many children died from vaccine-preventable illnesses (though I’d argue that that is also being promoted as a traditional ideal in the antivax community)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:43 PM
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Saaaaame (but not about the twins). I feel like I consistently heard “no one tells you how hard it is” in regard to having babies. To the point where I went into it expecting it to be really hard. And there were definitely some aspects that were easier than I expected, but also some aspects that were harder than I thought. It was something we wanted for a long time and struggled to finally conceive, so our daughter was very much planned. But that doesn’t mean we’re always having a blast with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:38 PM
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I think it’s more just a “ugh this sucks” thing rather than a “this sucks and it’s my husband’s fault 😡” thing. In my experience pregnancy sucked, birth was hard, pumping and breastfeeding is exhausting. I was jealous of my husband at times because he didn’t have to experience those things, but I was never mad at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:52 PM
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This is it. Honestly shut the sub down because you’ve summed it all up. Separately I think we should all stop making assumptions on relationships / people / ways of life that are well outside our lived experiences. Not a dig at OP, I don’t know her situation. Just that I am a SAHM and living a very “traditional” lifestyle at the moment and it’s so hard I would love to have a job to go to for 8 hours a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:46 PM
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Your comment is basically an example of the point that u/Fair-Bus-4017 is making.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:38 PM
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I would self-describe as an introvert, I like going out and doing things but on a less frequent basis than a lot of other people seem to. I spend a good amount of time at home. You’re losing me at a month of no-contact though. What does that mean? Like for every time you see her you need a full month to recharge? Idk if you’re going to find someone like that. I mean I’m sure someone exists out there who would be okay with that expectation, but I’ve never heard of anyone who would want that. It b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:34 PM
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Reading OP’s response to your other comment right below this one I’m more confused than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 01:20 AM
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Yeah, you’re probably right. Or I hope you are. Maybe this comes down to me just thinking that I personally wouldn’t find this helpful and that it would only serve to make me angry. Without a lot more context I guess we can only project our own feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:56 PM
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Very well said. Ditto to all this. I think the issue with OP’s post isn’t “do fathers speak to their daughters about dating or not” but rather “does being aware of the issues relating to sex and relationships make you misandrist?” If you ask me, it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:16 PM
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Gotcha 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:33 PM
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I hear what you’re saying, I just think this as a whole is the type of issue you need to have a conversation (honestly probably multiple conversations) about rather than this. This just feels immature, passive aggressive, and yes, entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:32 PM
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What does the link you posted have to do with OP’s post? You’re hung up on refuting a point that’s being made by no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:21 PM
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Again, the post is “men lie about x” and you keep saying “we don’t lie about y!” I don’t really have a dog in the fight, this is a little petty even for me. I’m just saying that what you’re arguing against isn’t the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:13 PM
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Yeah, sounds like the type of shit you would read on X.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:11 PM
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Her post isn’t “they’re lying about the same thing women lie about.” It’s “they’re lying about their own things.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:08 PM
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Do you think he’s wrong for looking elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:03 PM
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I think the part that rubs me the wrong way is the “excuse” column. I don’t think it helps anyone to keep track of that for the sake of data collection, and it reads like this is something she needs to give a good reason to be excused from.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:02 PM
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Agreeing with you here on your third point. You actually helped me understand what OP was trying to convey, because to me it felt like some disorganized pieces of information. None of this is hatred, and if a dad does or doesn’t sit his daughter down to have a talk about boys is irrelevant, because that talk isn’t going to be “now Betty, it’s time for you to learn what vermin all men really are.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:58 PM
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Yeah I can’t speak for FL. I don’t know their language.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:56 PM
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Having lived in the south my whole life, that’s definitely not the norm. Not to say it never happens because I’m sure someone somewhere has. But absolutely not in my life or that of anyone I know. (Although as I think about it I could see my FIL saying some cringe shit like that as a joke 🤮)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:53 PM
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I’m not positive what the point of this post is. I’m not trying to be rude, either, but I read it a couple of times and I’m just a little confused about what the message is. I’ve also never heard this quote about men teaching their daughters to be misandrists. I briefly looked at both of the older posts you referenced, and didn’t see that idea as the topic of discussion there, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:45 PM
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Exactly. And the job certainly isn’t sad to see the applicant go.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:29 PM
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You can be treated “better” than previous partners and still not be treated that well. And vice versa. And also I’m not sure how you would even know all these intimate details about past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:21 PM
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Someone out there has done just that and is having the time of his life
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:26 AM
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The thing about being treated like shit or being treated well is it doesn’t require a second person to compare yourself to in order for you to recognize it. Also I am a second wife and before this moment I never even thought about what his first wife’s ring looked like. But now that the thought has entered my head I still don’t care. I picked out my ring and he bought it for me. Why would hers change how I feel about mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:18 AM
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What? None of this is a thing that most people think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:06 AM
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Huh? It’s private so yeah they shouldn’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:05 AM
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In that case I’d like to double down on my previous point regarding insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:45 AM
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Right?? I read Brad Pitt and thought “what year is it?”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:42 AM
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lol I can’t tell if you’re joking
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:35 AM
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Why would his family and friends know how many men she’s slept with
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:09 AM
2

wtf consequence are you wanting
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:07 AM
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but PeAR bOndinG!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:54 AM
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I didn’t recognize her! And clearly no one else did either hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:19 AM
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I don’t think that a guy that pays for a date is necessarily more interested. But then again I’ve lived in the south my whole life and many men would pay for someone they’re having a god-awful time with sooner than seem ungentlemanly. Also equating the cost of a couple of drinks to access to someone’s body is gross
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:44 AM
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Seconding all of this, and adding that the sexual history of your partner (or prospective partner) is not your business! If they want to share at a later date, great. But you are not entitled to that kind of information by default, and insisting on these details from someone you barely know is a massive invasion of privacy and reeks of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:38 AM
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Maybe, I just searched something like “woman no makeup” and idk who this is. I just tried to find someone whose skin resembled my own. Mine is pretty uneven but I don’t have an autoimmune disease. Edit — I went back and looked and it’s Sofia Vergara omg. It said she had a 102 fever, so that explains the flushed look.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:21 PM
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I think you can be told that things aren’t your fault but that you’re able to change them. TRP seems to me to be more “it’s not your fault and there’s nothing you can do to fix it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:08 PM
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Idk why I make myself read threads about her. Makes my stomach hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:51 PM
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Did he even engage with his own post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:50 PM
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I may very well be, but I see plenty of b&w claims about female attraction that suppose I should be all over this man by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:38 PM
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I just can’t get my head around someone being twice my size, adding a hundred pounds to that, dressing them in a football uniform and having them charge at people. I’d shart myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:36 PM
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366lbs?? The human body isn’t meant for that idc what anyone says 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:28 PM
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I realized I was kinda missing what you were trying to say. I replied to my above comment with a picture I found, does that apply? Or if you find a picture you can post it and I will weigh in. Sometimes I think it’s less about the skin itself and more about other things — like you can be barefaced and clearly still wearing makeup in other areas of the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:21 PM
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<image> Like this person looks really pretty but you can tell from the unevenness of her skin tone that she’s barefaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:20 PM
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A person with even skin tone with no acne or blemishes will look great without makeup because they have an even skin tone, no acne, and no blemishes. Still, if you want blush, highlighter, or contour you should still put on some sort of foundation base so that it has something to grab onto.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:14 PM
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Maybe if by “average American woman” you mean like older southern women or like high school drop out teen moms? There’s a specific stereotype of woman that wears heavy makeup like you’re describing. I’ve seen it described as “republican makeup.” https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYnHdf7G/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:06 PM
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It’s funny because I see TRP guys say this is the type of guy who can pull any woman he wants but this is deeply unattractive to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:03 PM
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There’s been a huge change in the way women wear makeup the last couple of years. The “clean girl” look has been hugely popular and is based on minimal makeup/ focuses on skincare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:52 PM
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What if she looks fine without, but prefers the way she feels when she does wear makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:51 PM
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Im wondering if you think they have bad skin because you’re used to seeing women in makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:49 PM
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Yeah idk imo I’m not interested in doing either. I’m just saying that the study only referred to dating and your comment referred to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:27 PM
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So again, TRP is promoting those ideals in response to believing that personality can be attractive / NAWALT. Meaning they preach the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:12 PM
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Sure, DBs exist, but your stance on how you get there isn’t realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:06 PM
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That’s not how I think and I’ve never seen anyone in my life act that way. But ok. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:57 PM
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Idk how you know what TRP is “really / secretly” thinking. And I haven’t seen this stance in TBP, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:52 PM
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Yes and no. I think PUA try to fabricate the real thing. The real thing, a natural / instinctive spark, isn’t typically so calculated. It can be, but it also can be based on genuine interest in a person beyond the physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:48 PM
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Care to elaborate, or…?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:46 PM
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I think about this movie every time I get a cocktail and it comes with the little stirring straw. “You look like you’re sucking on a tiny dick.” But anyway yes he’s so attractive in that movie. The Dirty Dancing lift 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:43 PM
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I know you’re not trying to say “deceptively”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:41 PM
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So…it’s a red pill narrative, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:37 PM
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What makes you think that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:29 PM
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I’ve tried saying this here and was accused of lying / mental gymnastics and was told there’s no grey area when it comes to female attraction 🥲 (shoutout to u/nightcall379 )
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:29 PM
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I haven’t seen anything to say he did, and trump’s record of giving tax breaks to billionaires seems to be in conflict with Luigi’s feelings towards the 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:52 PM
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I don’t think Luigi did. And I’m very skeptical towards anyone lusting after Baron, let alone liberal women. As for the rest of them, I can’t speak for everyone but for me it’s a non-negotiable. Although I will say there’s a difference between fucking and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:00 PM
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Yeah, OP conspicuously skipped over that part of his summary of the post mentioned in the first paragraph. I’m fairly certain the vibe was “why would he accuse you of cheating when you’ve been faithful, that’s awful” and not the “it’s none of his business whether it’s his child, he needs to pay for it,” that is being portrayed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:18 AM
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It’s happening in the comments here. Several women are saying they’re over thirty and get plenty of male attention. There’s a ton of replies saying “it’s only because they have a milf fetish” “you’re cougar territory” “they want to pump and dump” “none of those people are looking for commitment” “only low quality men are interested in you” “they would all prefer a younger woman if they could get one”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:44 AM
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I’ve noticed some backtracking recently so I’ve started copying posts for this exact reason 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:15 AM
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It’s all part of this sad revenge fantasy in which men have their pick of hot young women, while older women are begging for a chance to be with men. In reality, younger women still don’t want older men (outside of an age kink or sugar baby thing) and older women seem to still get more attention than younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:04 AM
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I copied it anyway. Here was the original phrasing: None of this is true, and despite being glaringly obvious it somehow persists. Why would a man want to deal with emotional baggage from an inferior product? It’s common sense, but we all know how little of that exists on the blue side.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:01 AM
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I’m married and get plenty of attention. I’m sure I’m still delusional though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:57 AM
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I’ve heard there’s a literacy crisis. Sorry you’ve fallen victim to it. None of this is true, and despite being glaringly obvious it somehow persists. Why would a man want to deal with emotional baggage from an inferior product? It’s common sense, but we all know how little of that exists on the blue side.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:53 AM
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me as a 30yr old mom
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:32 AM
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yeah, no one who feels comfortable describing women as “an inferior product” could possibly be trying to manipulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:31 AM
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I do think it’s interesting that having voted for trump is more of a deal breaker (47% of respondents would not date) than being a single parent (36% would not date).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:01 AM
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Same here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:27 PM
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You typically wear both. At least where I live in the US. Sometimes I’ll just wear my wedding band, but typically you wear both your e-ring and wedding band.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:16 PM
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The sub both of those posts are in, waiting to wed, is for women who want to get married but their partners aren’t ready to propose. The second post about the tennis bracelet is frustrating to that person because her boyfriend has been telling her that they’re not engaged yet because he’s saving up for a ring, but the cost of the bracelet was equal to that of an engagement ring. She didn’t ask for diamond earrings for Christmas, either, she said she wanted “nice earrings.” If anything she’s upse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:35 PM
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It’s not shallow to want to like your engagement ring. I don’t really think I’m doing mental gymnastics, it feels that you picked up on one detail from the referenced post and you don’t want to move past it to discuss the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:35 PM
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You’re not speaking for yourself though. You’re making generalizations about entire populations of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:31 PM
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I know, I was just making a joke. You meant pray, prey is when you hunt an animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:27 PM
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I know. So many assumptions and crazy projection. I hate this phrase for the most part, but he needs to go touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:39 PM
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I think this is less about the ring itself and more about the fact that she explicitly told her fiancé what she wanted and he either didn’t listen or chose to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:38 PM
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Generally, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:14 PM
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I’m a little curious, it’s pretty widely expected to get a ring at a proposal and that the woman will wear that ring effectively every day for the rest of her life. Does it make her a gold digger to want to like that ring?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:00 PM
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You prey for them? 🦁
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:57 PM
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I understand. Not about the ethics of the ring but about being able to listen to your partner. You can get a natural stone at an estate sale, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:51 PM
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Jesus Christ dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:46 PM
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He edited it after I and several others explained basic statistics several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:31 AM
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Yikes. I won’t tell them about your snafu here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:12 AM
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LMFAOOOOO goodbye, this has been fun but there’s no topping this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:42 AM
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You still have the “divorce rates” of 74, 78, and 72 percent in your post. This is why you’re being told you should delete, your interpretation is bad and reworking this live isn’t great.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:36 AM
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Agreed. This whole post was inspired by and built around that number. We’re backtracking at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:29 AM
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“I changed the divorce rate from 15% to 72% but it wasn’t that off, I got the point across.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:13 AM
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You and the other guy need to retake middle school math I am so over this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:05 AM
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Jesus Christ dude, idk what the actual stats are, frankly I don’t actually care, I’m just saying that OP’s interpretation of his own source is incorrect. I don’t know how to explain it more clearly than I have already. This is very very basic algebra.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:04 AM
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Probably because they’re less likely to be content to remain in an unhappy marriage, I’m not sure. I’m not in a lesbian marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:59 AM
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No you’re still not understanding. The entire sample was ONLY divorced, homosexual couples. 72% were female. 28% male. The reason we can’t extrapolate the divorce rate from this is it says nothing about how many same sex couples are still married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:55 AM
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Basically it was saying that out of a sample of divorced homosexual couples, 72% were female and 28% male. That does not mean that 72% of lesbian couples divorce. Thats not how the divorce rate is calculated. You get that by looking at the percentage of couples who have gotten married and later split up. You can’t tell anything about divorce rate if you’re only looking at divorced people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:50 AM
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Or Jack Black in The Holiday.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:41 AM
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Your stats on same sex divorce are wrong. Looking at your source, then the source cited in that source, it was saying that 72% of gay divorces were with lesbians and 28% were with men. Not that those are the rates of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:26 AM
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Yeah, women have no idea what it’s like to have to account for annoying gender expectations…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:09 AM
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I survived it: the true story of how I once had to look at a picture of a fat woman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:16 PM
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You think that by asking a woman to cover the expense of a $7 coffee or a $10 drink that you’re going to drastically reduce the amount of women who are interested in a date? And this is a bad thing because you don’t want to miss out on a woman who isn’t interested in paying for her own coffee or drink? Also there are already plenty of men who expect or at least try to hook up on first dates. Like, a huge amount of men. If anything, I wouldn’t want anyone to pay for me on a date so that there’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:40 PM
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I understand exactly what you mean. I didn’t go through this to the same extent you did, but I definitely still guard myself around my parents. Sometimes we’ll be getting along and I’ll suddenly remember something that happened as a child that completely brings me out of the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:32 PM
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I just don’t think this is a big issue when you can: -have conversations prior to the date in which you outline expectations for payment -go on dates that are cheap (coffee dates were a go-to for me, pretty much always under $20) -go on dates that are free (hiking, parks, some museums)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:53 PM
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Sorry, but doesn’t your comment sort of just prove how little of an issue this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:44 PM
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Do you have conversations about this prior to the date so that both parties are aware of whatever the expectation is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:21 PM
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I think it’s very clear that a hypothetical situation involving heavy active addiction is different from disowning family due to sexuality. And even in this hypothetical, I’d still love her more than anyone else, which is the topic of discussion. My kid could be a serial killer and I’d still visit her in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:06 PM
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No, I mean those 20% are the men who are so incredibly good looking that it’s impossible to miss. Most everyone else falls into a neutral category pending more information about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:05 PM
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There’s a huuuuuuge middle ground you’re skipping over. Love bombing just makes me feel like you don’t even care to get to know me as a person, you’re just projecting some fantasy woman onto me. It’s not flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:29 PM
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Maybe. Shitty people do shitty things. This approach to parenting is not at all something I can relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:24 PM
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Kiss your homies 💋
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:23 PM
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I feel we’re derailing things when we get to the point where we’re saying “look up hyenas.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:23 PM
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lol I hope this was a typo for “marrying outside their faith”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:09 PM
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I think that parents who are willing to disown their children over their actions, beliefs, etc. must have a malfunction in their brain chemistry. The idea of cutting my daughter out of my life would be like cutting off my own arm. The only reason I could maybe see doing this is if she were an addict or something and I could no longer be an enabler, but even then it would have to be a “this is for your own good” type thing and I would still love her and miss her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:08 PM
2

I agree. There is nothing my daughter could do or say that would make me stop loving her. I can’t imagine feeling differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:06 PM
5

Isn’t the statistic more that they’re not attracted to 80% of men based on looks alone? Thats different than thinking that 80% of men are ugly. We’ve had conversations here about that stat and how many women need to get to know someone before determining whether they can be attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:57 PM
11

How much time are you spending having meaningful conversations with women outside of the internet? I think you’d find that your theories are incongruous with the reality of how women think and behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:55 PM
11

Idek what this means
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:54 PM
6

My point is that it doesn’t really suit either of us but there’s not a great alternative at this point and part of being adults who are committed to each other is being patient and responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:45 PM
3

Idk who’s talking about surgery specifically, but I have a baby and it’s genuinely been a solid 4 months since we’ve even had an opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:41 PM
2

Or they’re going through something, as was suggested in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:38 PM
2

Do you honestly think that a relationship is “non-drivable” without an active sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:09 PM
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Not if I’m not in the mood to, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:21 PM
0

Correct, but it’s just a subset. It doesn’t reflect the values of the entire movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:19 PM
2

How? It’s really the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:19 PM
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Maybe we’re not always equally excited, but never just like “ehh this will appease them.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:02 PM
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It feels like this whole post is just saying you want to be able to have sex with a party who is indifferent (at best) about having sex with you without having face any consequences for it. Which congrats, you can do that, but this is a “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:58 PM
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Normally against the person making the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:52 PM
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I think we need to move past this view that it’s socially acceptable to place the blame on victims when we were not present and don’t have the full story. It’s old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:51 PM
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Hi. Married person. I can’t speak for everyone, but what you’re describing sounds weird and has no role in my marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:46 PM
7

Yeah, seen plenty of takes here about this and the right for men to have paper abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:48 PM
5

This reminds me of a tiktok I saw yesterday where someone said that Luigi should be convicted only if there is a just punishment for his crime. The proposed punishments were: -a good spanking -meatless mondays -the government runs a subreddit dedicated to trolling him and he has to read all the posts once a week -(this one may be hard to pull off) give him a bad haircut and let him go
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:28 PM
6

He should be shamed. It was a shameful take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:22 PM
25

Sounds like men should spend more time with their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:57 PM
1

Has anyone ever in the history of the world said “it’s ok my husband” or “oh husband”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:29 PM
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Do you have absolutely anything to back this up or are you just yapping
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:25 PM
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More educated people tend to get married later in life than those who don’t have any higher education. Those who marry later are less likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:20 PM
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Absolutely not in any sort of long term arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:56 PM
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It doesn’t sound like he’s describing a functional partnership regardless. Just having someone to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:55 PM
1

I get it ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:37 AM
3

I’ve said more or less the same thing before but was told I was gaslighting 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:09 AM
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I think it’s partially a cultural difference but mainly what you see here is a caricature of what dating in the states is like. There’s a lot of discourse about issues that are either uncommon or simply nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:41 PM
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Oh I know, I’m just on a lil ranty rant. Times are tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:01 PM
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Hard for me to say, I don’t go to many weddings and the last one I attended was my own where we only invited immediate family. But I’ve seen a million insta photos of couples attending weddings with corny captions like “my forever wedding date” or “always my favorite wedding date”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:00 PM
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Child support is determined based off your income. But yes, that wouldn’t be enough. As you mentioned in your comment, it would be about the cost of feeding someone for a month. Doesn’t touch school supplies, clothes, diapers, toys, medical costs, or whatever other things may come up. It’s crazy how expensive things can get when you start adding it all up. (And while young children can probably eat for cheaper than adults, babies need formula or baby food that is surprisingly costly.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:57 PM
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Plus a large portion of black + white thinking, logical fallacies, goal post shifting, and when all else fails (or even just for fun) some good old ad hominems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:41 PM
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Don’t people still bring dates to weddings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:44 PM
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I read a statistic that most child support payments are under $450 and only 40% of child support agreements are paid properly (don’t quote me on that because I didn’t bother to verify), so depending on what government assistance would be available I absolutely agree that it could benefit everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:32 PM
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Improving reading skills (like even a baseline ninth grade level would be a step in the right direction) and very basic debate etiquette would go a long way here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:26 PM
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I just don’t care for goalpost shifting. -“women never take on personal risk.” -explain that pregnancy and birth is risky, provide stats to back it up -“well that doesn’t count to me because a subset of men encounter more occupational risk over the span of several years.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:22 PM
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That wasn’t the comment I was referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:53 PM
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The state of literacy in this sub is abysmal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:23 PM
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It’s in line with the reality of raising a child in the states rn though. Birth itself costs tens of thousands, then there’s all the pediatric bills, cost of baby food and formula, diapers, no guaranteed maternity leave, exponential cost of childcare, I have no idea how I’m going to put my kid(s) through college…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:21 PM
2

Yeah I’m good
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:07 PM
3

But that wasn’t the topic of discussion. The claim was “women refuse to take any risk.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:57 PM
3

Wasn’t his original point that women refuse to take on any real risk? Each pregnancy is equal to over three years risk in his field.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:10 AM
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I don’t think someone who says “we pretend to like you to get pussy” is having to hold himself back in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:10 AM
3

Well when you consider how 2/3 of the maternal mortality rate comes from postpartum death and how we’re the only developed nation without a federal mandated maternity leave and one of the only that doesn’t provide several postpartum health checks, I think there’s a lot to be desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:40 AM
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Whenever I read things like this I tell myself it’s a bot or a troll. Makes me sad otherwise to think someone really allowed themselves to think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:38 AM
3

Ah, I see now. Hey, I did say math was hard for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:23 AM
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It would be 0.022%. Math is hard for me as well. But yes, modern medicine does help keep it from being much worse. I would have 100% died if not for having been in the hospital. Also you don’t have to literally die for something to be dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:19 AM
2

I’ve learned a lot from TikTok over the last few years. Reddit seems to be kinda going the way of X as of the last several months though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:00 AM
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But it is subjective! There are people that we will largely agree are good looking and people who we will largely agree are bad looking, but tons of fluctuations on who we find attractive between those two extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:53 PM
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This guy is the worst tho. He unironically told me men dont value intellectualism — that only women value things like education and reading because it makes them seem more “worldly.” I can’t quite explain it but it had the same energy as “fellas is it gay to wash your ass?” Same concept of robbing yourself of something that would be in your own best interest because doing that thing would make you seem too soft.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:41 PM
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Accountable for not choosing to fuck him, if I had to guess
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:59 PM
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And you’re finding intelligence where? Not in books or schools, which are apparently too feminine? Ohhhhhkay. I took a screenshot of this comment tbh because it’s one of the worst self-owns I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:02 PM
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You can choose the peril of one or the other, that’s something that’s up to you and you alone, though it lowkey sounds like you just want to experience pregnancy and hate your job. Which is fine, again that’s up to you. Women not wanting to be your colleague doesn’t mean they’re afraid of your job. It could, but in my case it’s genuinely just not appealing. It doesn’t sound interesting or fulfilling and the wage I saw when I looked up that statistic wasn’t enough to excuse either of those things…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:01 PM
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Oh, sorry, I wasn’t actually asking for the opinion of anyone here. I meant: pregnancy, childbirth, and the postpartum period are wildly dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:55 PM
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I don’t think your values are that aspirational when you’re one hurt feeling away from making negative assumptions about someone’s mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:54 PM
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Cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:46 PM
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My husband has the cushiest job in the world compared to mine. Ironically he works for an electric company.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:46 PM
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I can’t help but feel you’re arguing in bad faith if you excuse statistics proving you wrong to be irrelevant. But also maybe someone should let you know that you’re free to change careers? You’re not an indentured servant. And your argument is akin to me saying that men must not value intellectualism since so few of them go into education.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:45 PM
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And also why does he assume that if there are fewer women than men that it’s due to an unwillingness to pursue a more risky career? And to further assume that those women are thinking to themselves that it’s a “man’s job” to take on that risk? Maybe that work just doesn’t appeal to women. Maybe it’s not marketed to women. Maybe women don’t want to be part of their boys club. I worked several years as a vet tech and only ever had a few male coworkers, but I never said “I guess they’re just not br…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:21 PM
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I am actively agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:05 PM
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According to a quick search, there are 7.3 deaths per 100,000 full-time electricians (bureau of labor statistics) and 22.3 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births in the US (commonwealth fund)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:03 PM
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I don’t think I get what you’re saying? I mean both men and women should feel that they’re able to identify with their genders, to find that their gender offers a method of self expression and that they are able to connect with others on the basis of a shared gender. But that we shouldn’t feel like we have to do things we don’t want to or that we can’t do things we do want to just because we’re women or men. Does that make sense or did I totally misinterpret your first comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:57 PM
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Pregnancy, childbirth, and the postpartum period are wildly dangerous. Especially in America and even more so if you’re not white.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:51 PM
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Post partum depression would like to have a word
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:48 PM
5

I can get behind this. Your gender expression should be something that empowers you and offers you community, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:47 PM
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Everyone is entitled to preferences about whatever they want, this isn’t a gotcha moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:03 AM
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I know nothing whatsoever about Luigi Mangione’s mama, but I know she talks to him every chance she gets to ask him how he’s doing. And if he isn’t allowed visitation yet, I know she’s figuring out when and how she will be able to see her baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:52 AM
5

I read your comment, and what you said there is very different from how it was translated here. I’ve noticed the state of literacy isn’t always great in this sub. Not a call out to anyone in particular, but I’ve seen several cases where people in the comments are clearly out of their depth. And I don’t even just mean that they’re being intentionally obtuse, only skimming what they’re reading, or arguing in bad faith, because they will post several-paragraph responses consisting of poorly worded,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:50 AM
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And the core of this comes down to the fact that right or wrong, I’m going to make sure my child is safe and supported. Nothing they could do or say would negate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:59 PM
5

Getting mad at the most elaborate hypotheticals fr
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:57 PM
2

No one is being prosecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:49 PM
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That last sentence is how I feel. Yes, LP participated and orchestrated this whole thing. I don’t see her as a victim, but let’s be clear that this only happened because her male audience had created a market for exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:17 PM
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Yeah I’m not sure what about this is offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:06 PM
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Don’t you think that by explaining your theory like this you’re really just painting a portrait of your insecurity? If I were on the receiving end of this I would be so embarrassed of you and embarrassed for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:36 AM
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Oh I know, the guy I’m responding to just keeps making it sound like you can’t have more than maybe just one healthy child if the mom is over 25 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:00 AM
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The comment you responded to wasn’t about age-related infertility, it was about birth defects and developmental disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:22 PM
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“One or few” is how many children most people want. Waiting until later in life to have children also positively trends with education and income.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:18 PM
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Nah, I’m not gonna believe that 14 separate people read “as a guy at a normal weight I’d prefer not to date a fat woman” and thought “this deserves death 😊💅” If he wants to send me screenshots I’ll publicly apologize and admit I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:10 PM
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You haven’t looked into it or fertility in general. So maybe don’t speculate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:05 PM
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Considering the median age of first birth in the US is now 30 years old, I don’t think this is as large a problem as you may think it is. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/04/fertility-rates-declined-for-younger-women-increased-for-older-women.html?utm_campaign=20220406msacos1ccstors&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:50 PM
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Tbf I don’t believe 14 people sent death threats so it’s a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:42 PM
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I think you would have had to say something more than just that, in those words, for fourteen different people to think an actual death threat is a reasonable response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:05 PM
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Maybe not the absolute ideal but can very much still easily get pregnant and have a healthy baby. Men’s age affects pregnancy outcomes to a greater degree than we previously thought, but I rarely see that as a topic of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:56 PM
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Going this young is completely unnecessary and unjustified in terms of fertility. That’s the point I’m trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:47 PM
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If women are free to have this standard then so are men. Or do you mean free from criticism? Because that’s not true either, considering the amount of posts I’ve seen about this issue. Which, truth be told, is kind of a trivial thing to be deeply bothered by. Are men the alpha providers or aren’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:46 PM
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Depends on where and how you say it. If you say that women over 30 are used up, post-wall, infertile, etc then you’re going to meet some resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:40 PM
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What does this have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:37 PM
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Yeah, if it were a younger man and older woman I’d still find that sort of age gap to be disturbing. Also 18 is v much not your reproductive peak. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=maternal+mortality+and+teen+pregnancy&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&t=1734460060223&u=%23p%3D-CNPujawc8wJ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:18 PM
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I’m not sure, women don’t really discuss men in this kind of way in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:48 PM
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I’m not sure what the harm would be in filling it out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:47 PM
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I’m glad you feel that way. It’s been a few years since I used a dating app, but when I used it (or when I saw female friends swiping through profiles), I only swiped right on men who were very good looking to a point where it was hard not to notice, or men who had something on their profile that clicked for me. Mostly the latter. It was rare that I didn’t read a profile in its entirety before swiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:21 PM
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Because your question is referring to statistical trends and averages across large groups of people. It doesn’t reflect anyone’s day to day experience, and even if it did I don’t think anyone would be able to say “oh yeah I feel that way because I think Orlando Bloom in the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie looked so hot that everyone else is just ugly to me now.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:05 PM
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I said “not as visual as men are.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:03 PM
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I don’t think anyone is going to be able to answer you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:58 PM
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Yeah idk about that really but also, even if I gave someone an arbitrary 3.5/10 rating they could still become like a 7/10 if I really enjoy spending time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:48 PM
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I’m not sure if this is an answer to your question, and I can only speak from my own experience, but I just don’t feel any attraction to most men. I don’t think many women are as visual as men are. It’s not that I think they’re bad looking, it’s just that I don’t feel any actual attraction. It’s not the same as feeling like they’re ugly, it’s just that they don’t pull my attention. Someone has to be unusually appealing for me to be like “woah, they’re good looking.” But also people become more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:40 PM
1

What do you read / how often do you read?
/r/MensRights09/12/24 04:11 AM
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I thought they were literally just sex tourists.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/24 01:43 AM
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Eleven 😿
/r/ExRedPill11/11/24 09:20 PM
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Ding ding ding! I’m like 95% sure that’s exactly it. She knows how sensitive and insecure OP is and tried to pad his ego. “Ugh I didn’t even like sex with him, our relationship honestly was terrible and sex was a chore. Nothing at all like the great sex with you, OP!” And OP still managed to get in his feelings about it.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 01:31 PM
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Wow what shitty "poetry."
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 02:50 PM
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