Being noticeably bitter and seeing yourself as a victim of “women mating behavior” is a victim mentality. From what I see here, yall have some pretty big chips on your shoulders.
Right? Like in actuality there’s tons of families where boys receive preferential treatment over their sisters ESPECIALLY from their moms. OP never heard of “boy moms”???
Love how like 20 different people have asked you to describe even one of your “countless” examples and you’ve ignored us all, as usual. If you weren’t making this up/basing your opinions on social media and romcoms, you would be able to provide examples.
Could you please give a SPECIFIC example that you’ve witnessed? Should be easy since you’ve apparently witnessed every woman doing this (ALL backgrounds and ALL psychological profiles, wow!) What was the nice behavior that turned them off? How do you know that’s what happened? Did they tell you so?
Bingo. If you’re not fun to be around bc you’re fucking miserable and vocally hate everything & everyone… that’s going to be a dealbreaker for most people. Which is gonna affect your “league”.
This is even worse than your usual posts. What’s your thesis here? women are worse than men for vague unarticulated reasons? How could anyone “debate” this pointless post?
lol ok so you just don’t know the difference between a hobby and a job. Probably no use in trying to argue with you, like playing checkers with a pigeon
I am an old millennial and a firm believer in “everyone needs therapy”. At some point in their lives. It’s not just for people with severe trauma or mental illness, it can be good if you’re going through a breakup or other big transitions in your life, or if you feel stuck in a rut in your life. at minimum i think you should get some therapy and unlearn whatever damage your parents did to you before you have kids. But there’s definitely value in therapy for looking at how you tend to behave and …
Dozens, wow! You must have links to at least a couple to share? Also lol it’s NOT one study— it’s one study referencing multiple other studies just in that quote…
This isn’t fuckin Jim Crow. I’m literally not attracted to men but I’m “entitled” and committing some “injustice” if I turn down an interested man who believes himself to be my “looksmatch” or better?
Yall can’t control your own emotions enough to not get hostile (and in many cases dangerous) when being told no? That’s some toddler shit. Everyone gets rejected, for sex, for relationships, for jobs, apartments, whatever. It sucks but it’s part of life for everyone. You’re responsible for your own reactions.
No birth control method is 100%, not to mention the side effects bc can cause (personally I can’t take anything with estrogen bc of blood clotting concerns). But moreover pregnancy was only one of the concerns mentioned in the comment you’re replying to. The risk isn’t minimal especially if you don’t know the other person well.
I mean its not very nice to accuse half the population of serious mental illness without evidence. Especially since according to you our delusion is that we’re better than you think we are. And how about saying women have “weak insecure minds”? Is that a compliment? These are your own words.
There’s a lot of ethical concerns with generative AI but I do think he and society might be better off if he could just talk about this with like, a therapybot
It proves the part of your argument where you say how women explain our own actions. It doesn’t demonstrate in the slightest that we’re lying and “men know better”
Men are more likely to leave their wives when the wife is diagnosed with a terminal illness than the other way around Relying on Reddit anecdotes for this shit is uh… not super smart. most popular Reddit posts that make you go OMG THEY MARRIED THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD are made up for karma
Is your question really “are women capable of loving their partners even if they lose their job”? Are you serious? If you actually think women as a group are all heartless and only interested in men for “money and status” you need to log off and meet some real humans
yeah, I’m sure a guy who makes 10 Reddit posts a day, all seething with rage at everything in the world, shows NO signs of his obvious anger issues and chip on his shoulder in his meat-space interactions. I don’t care if you’re doing the seething in your head, people can tell!
“Regardless of what anyone says it is usually against their will” great way to start a debate, by proclaiming you’re going to disregard all evidence that contradicts your unfounded opinion. Just curious if any woman here has had a friend do this to them against their will? I can think of a couple times a friend rescued me like this in my youth, and I was grateful.
Lmao it’s not like that at all, considering YOU are the one who made a generalization about a group you’re not a member of, and I then spoke from my personal experience as a member of that group. But good try!
Yes but do you have any data to back up these particular generalizations? If not, my anecdote is better. Subreddits allegedly devoted to older women whining about being single aren’t real data either - just more anecdotes
I have been working as a professional for years my guy. Lucky to have been full-time remote for the past few years so I don’t have to be exposed to judgy people like you, but was in office long enough to know your standards for professionalism are very far from universal.
And wear non-neutral colors. Like how conservative is your workplace that other people consider it unprofessional for people to wear a pink blouse or something? I don’t buy it. Don’t like seeing colors, don’t work around other people.
You’re hilarious and clearly haven’t worked in many professional settings. I work for the state government. At both my daily morning meeting with my team, and the weekly full-unit huddle with upper management, we start with brief ice breakers that- yes- mention our personal lives! Companies like to at least maintain some illusion of thinking of employees as actual human people and not just worker drones. I’m not saying it’s fine to spend an entire day chatting and not working, or to air all of y…
Women should be silent and beige I do think people should go easy on fragrances, but it’s not really a gendered issue. Honestly if anything, in my experience the most egregious offenders are men more often than women. I’m an AuDHD woman who now works from home but especially when I worked in an office I did struggle with certain distracting sounds, although usually quiet ticks and hums from electronics. It’s my own issue and i dealt with it on my own with white noise apps, headphones, and findin…
“A 2005 analysis of 46 meta-analyses that were conducted during the last two decades of the 20th century underscores that men and women are basically alike in terms of personality, cognitive ability and leadership. Psychologist Janet Shibley Hyde, PhD, of the University of Wisconsin in Madison, discovered that males and females from childhood to adulthood are more alike than different on most psychological variables, resulting in what she calls a gender similarities hypothesis.” https://www.apa.…
“Sleeping with your professor for grades” was the example given. Prof is either rewarding sex with better grade or leading the student to believe he will.
So the student sleeping with the professor for a good grade is the lowest of low level behavior. Lower than the professor who gives students better grades for sleeping with them? No matter the genders, the professor is clearly worse here. They’re the one with the power. The woman would be worse if she were the professor and the student were male.
Stfu? So you’re trying to censor me 🥺 Edit: Lmao u/eurythmetics stop making shitty comments if you need the comment karma. Try commenting on other people’s posts. Surely there are some non-controversial kayaking and fishing posts you could leave inoffensive comments on. Try to avoid correcting anyone’s grammar or spelling, don’t call anyone an idiot or tell them to shut the fuck up. It’s absurdly narcissistic to post as much as you do and never comment on other people’s posts, and it just isn’t …
What did he say, that you made up the definition of attractive and you’re gaslighting him? u/eurythmetics stop deleting comments and actually participate in your own CMV like you’re open to having your view challenged or having a debate
I mean value as a human being you’re right nobody determines anyone else’s value. It’s also not determined by attractiveness. Value in the “sexual marketplace”? Women who are on the market for men do determine the “value” of men who are on the market for women. Women lifting each other up hurts nobody except bitter whiners.
I’m not suggesting men behave this way. I’m saying in contrast with being openly hostile to female coworkers and openly contemptuous of female service workers, there’s nothing inherently unkind or wrong about not smoking or making eye contact. It doesn’t hurt anyone. The commenter seemed to have given up on dating, which is an acceptable choice if not a happy one. I was saying in that context he doesn’t need to smile at or make eye contact with women if he doesn’t want to. But even if one has gi…
It is. u/Eurythmetics can claim we fabricated this myth about “nice guys”, but u/electronic_west_1831 is exhibit A. He was only ever “nice” because he thought he would be rewarded for it, instead of because he cared about other people’s feelings and well-being. Guys like him don’t even understand what actual kindness is.
How is that antisocial behavior? As a woman who’s been told to smile by randos, I would never say someone else has to smile. And eye contact is really really uncomfortable for some people, whether because of neurodivergence or cultural differences. I’m autistic and I hate eye contact, I think if the person’s face is facing more or less towards you and you can understand what they’re saying, it should be normalized to not make much eye contact. It’s not the commonest way to interact in the US, bu…
Yeah I know that, and it works because some people, especially those who had a traumatic childhood where they weren’t given the attention they deserved, OR are just young and haven’t grown red flag detectors yet, are taken in by it because a guy is being so kind to them, making her feel so special. And he’ll tell us how we really understand each other, how nobody gets him like we do, so we think we must be really special and that he is really a sensitive and caring but troubled guy, and we can h…
I mean the point is being a decent human being and not making people’s days worse for no reason. it’s fine to not smile or make eye contact, but do you really feel good about yourself after a day of being openly hostile to your coworkers and treating low-wage workers with “open contempt”? I hope that was a joke Checked your comment history, not a joke I guess
I think you have it backwards, what it said was some partners who start out lovebombing may become physically abusive. Lundy Bancroft’s “Why Does He Do That?” is a seminal book on abusers. See page 291. https://ia800108.us.archive.org/30/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf#page219 “‘The Garden Of Eden’ - That’s what I call the beginning of a relationship with an abuser.”
Yes… and also to reel them in at the beginning. See the Cleveland clinic article I linked- it refers to a partner showering you with love/commitment declarations, gifts etc very early on in a relationship.
You’re not really following the cmv rules Igloo. And have you ever checked out the #whyistayed hashtag on Twitter? Spoiler- it’s not because they loved being abused.
Not an American thing. I am absolutely cringing at the idea of some random at a restaurant trying to get my number while I’m having lunch with my MOTHER
It says he showed up unannounced and burst into her bedroom. And even if he hadn’t… the strangulation, knocking her down the stairs, and repeatedly assaulting her in front of their child isn’t enough?
I didn’t see it coming specifically but it wasn’t a surprise - he showed clear signs of being controlling and misogynistic with the “you a mother” thing so it’s not a long walk from that to being physically abusive. It’s upsetting that the abuse is so severe— strangulation by a partner is a huge predictor of murder by the partner. I hope he gets what he deserves and that she is able to stay apart from him. Certainly she’s not financially dependent on him and she seems to have a supportive family…
This is some very circular reasoning Igloo lmao “Have you noticed that women who criticize me on Reddit are always ugly? I know they’re ugly bc they’re on Reddit”
Sure there’s nothing wrong with wanting to have sex with a hot guy. But if you’ve already got a source for sex, why bother with a guy who seems like he’s the type to think of you as a “cum dumpster”?
So if as you so elegantly claim, good-looking guys only want mediocre women to be “cum dumpsters”, why shouldn’t a “mediocre looking” woman turn down a better-looking guy? Especially if she’s not feeling horny or she knows her vibe does it better or she already has someone else to call up for casual sex?
I mean, that’s wrong, but the take-home here is I enjoy my life, I’m over 35, and I haven’t had any rude awakenings to make me regret turning down annoying men when I was younger.
It’s entirely relevant. It’s not delusional to turn down a guy because you enjoy being single, and you claim the women in your examples are doing it to impress their friends or because they think they can do better, but you don’t have any way to actually know that.
Right? I’ve (sadly) read TRP sidebar and some other stuff recommended to understand TRP. A lot of it says not to worry about rejection and it’s actually a good thing to save you from wasting time with women who aren’t interested. Then there’s articles all about how to succeed in online dating, etc. and yet here’s u/igloo-pincher not being “as successful as [he] should be” and… it’s the women’s fault? Nah man, either you’re doing/understanding TRP wrong or it isn’t reality
Have you noticed that you, personally, post the same rants week after week and then act like others are the problem for posting similar responses each time?
How is this an example of feminism being cancer? Nobody’s forcing men to change THEIR names - it’s really an example of society becoming more egalitarian. It isn’t new, either; my mom didn’t change her last name when she got married 41 years ago because she was attached to her own last name. how does this even affect you?
1) women are also constantly told that they shouldn’t do xyz because men don’t like it (for example) 2) you constantly post about how fucked up it is that men can’t get their “looksmatch” so you clearly do care about “getting” a woman
You don’t need to be “fucking delusional” to not want to spend the night with you. You’ve explicitly said you don’t need to do anything to try to be interesting to women. You hate basically everything and everyone and complain constantly. I don’t care what you look like, that sounds like a bad time.
Did you really think you could post “everyone disagrees with my posts even thought they’re super correct and astute! This is because other redditors are assholes!” And that people wouldn’t check to see what you’ve been posting? Were they just supposed to take your word for it that you only post very correct takes?
When I worked customer service the only customer to call me an idiot was a man 🤷♀️. Also when I worked in a call center every single disgusting pervert prank caller was a man. So I guess we have different experiences
Please show the evidence that GMO foods have caused “the gross emasculation and feminization of western society”. Shouldn’t be hard to come up with some if “all signs” are pointing to it.
So the mods in this sub remove your comments when you insult people, but there’s many examples in your comments in other subs. In this sub, we have multiple examples of you countering arguments with “no” and “bullshit” no https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/BgCe0Yca4o No https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/V1sSZDtZh5 Generalization with no evidence https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/lw1zoozyOC Bullshit https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/o9SIFhAjba Wrong https://reddit.com/r/Pur…
I’ve NEVER seen you counter any argument with actual facts. If it’s not “shut the fuck up”, criticizing spelling/grammar, or name-calling, you make some baseless generalization and claim anyone with common sense knows it’s true. Occasionally you link a blog post or something.
Meanwhile OP’s responses to those who disagree with him are “shut the fuck up simp/twat/mid/land whale” or “can you fucking read” or picking on a minor spelling/grammar error instead of addressing the substance of the comment.
It’s amazing to me how he scoffs every time someone suggests the anger issues might be a turnoff. And misinterprets domestic violence statistics… he thinks that because people who are being abused are likely to go back to their abusive partners multiple times (bc it’s hard to break free of abuse…) it means women get turned on by abuse and abusive guys. Which… yikes. Anyway nothing is ever Igloo’s fault, it’s the “unfuckable” womens fault for not acting grateful he gave them a passing glance
How is it entitled to choose not to date or fuck people you don’t want to date or fuck? If a woman thinks she’ll have a better night alone than with you, why shouldn’t she choose to spend the night alone? Everyone has to look out for number 1, right?
I can’t imagine it’s actually relieving his stress. It has to be creating more at this point. It’s a coping mechanism but I can’t imagine it’s a very good one— he’s just focusing more and more energy at this perceived injustice which he can’t change. Any therapist would tell you it isn’t healthy at this point. He’s just wallowing (while simultaneously pretending he actually does fuck hot women all the time)
So you care. You’re annoyed enough about it to post about it on Reddit like multiple times a week. So again, if you’re getting so many hot women, what does it matter what “unfuckable” women think of you? It sounds like you’re in agreement with each other— you’re not interested. That’s a consensus! Seems like the ideal situation to me, considering all the more attractive women who ARE interested in you, right?
So why do you care what these “unfuckable” women think about you? Just go fuck one of your hot women and enjoy your day Btw this is what the unfuckable women think of you
No. He’s clearly miserable based on ALL of his posts about how delusional women think they’re better than him when they aren’t even his Looksmatch. If someone was posting a lot about climate change I’d say they were trying to get more attention on an important issue. So’s Igloo, I guess, but the important issue he’s trying to raise awareness of is “Mid girls don’t appreciate how lucky they’d be to date me”
And do you think that constantly ruminating on these experiences (in which women you don’t want to fuck don’t want to fuck you either) is improving your life or your mindset? You post this same stuff constantly. You seem very angry about it.
Are they cliche canned responses or Occam’s Razor? Although personally I think the simplest likeliest explanation is that your negative bitter attitude repels women
“delusion” = not wanting to fuck a guy because he meets the “looksmatch” criterion (and no other criteria) “Looksmatch” has to be the stupidest word and concept y’all have come up with btw. For one thing it’s subjective. For another, Normal people don’t go around assessing everyone they meet in terms of physical attractiveness relative to themselves. Women aren’t turned on by a guy just because he’s a 7 and she’s a 6.5. Stop rating people like that anyway! It’s dehumanizing as fuck. Why would a …
Right? Unattractive women still get to have self-respect. I can’t imagine any woman with self respect wanting to be with a guy this bitter and hateful and petty.
“Intentionally cruel and sadistic” is not what autism is. You have just known some shitty guys who happened to be autistic. My dad and my best childhood friend are both autistic men and they’re both very kind, intelligent people who definitely understand morality. I’m begging you not to paint all autistic men with this broad brush because youve met people who sound like sociopaths.
It’s because he’s so nice lol. Don’t you sense the innate kindness emanating from his entire post/comment history. The kindest men are always raging against everyone who disagrees with them/is a woman, didn’t you know. A big indicator of a kind person on Reddit is how many times a day they tell another Redditor to shut the fuck up. OP’s got 3 in the past two hours so he’s basically a saint
Women are half the population and you define “simp” as any man who doesn’t hate us, so yeah it makes sense that any half-decent platform would be used by both those groups and that we would outnumber misogynists like you
How can you be “forced” to date younger women? I thought y’all would fuck anyone bc you’re cursed with horniness? (Source: OP’s previous works) Women over 30 are so far below your “looksmatch” (obviously the only criterion for selecting a mate) that you’re forced to turn down Margot Robbie for a woman in her 20s? This despite dating being horrible for men because of women’s delusional selectiveness?
Ok, but you can understand that making that preference known to a young woman who understands the passage of time is still going to make her not want to date you, right?
Exactly!!! I’m not into men but I’m not super obviously queer, am I “delusional” for not being into men I’m friendly to? Especially if they’re more attractive than me lol how dare I not be interested
Why are the only possible reasons a woman isn’t interested is that she’s delusional or there’s something wrong with the guy? Why can’t she just not be interested? Like maybe she came to her job because she wants to earn money and she isn’t looking for a man right then?
I am giving explanations and relevant messages. Your (lack of) understanding of human psychology is laughable, and for some reason you think women are significantly affected only by their romantic relationships, while men are much more affected by their families/parents than women are. You’ve offered NO evidence to back that claim up. If you’re trying to avoid any woman with “baggage”/negative past experiences, you’re limiting yourself to almost no one. What you should be looking for is someone …
Not like men, clearly every one of you is super well-adjusted, I definitely never encounter men who repress all their negative emotions except anger, or who has any unhealthy coping mechanisms or anything like that. Everyone has baggage. Women are more likely to work on ours.
Why would the (family/friend) environment have more of an effect on men than on women? That’s absurd. Every person on earth is constantly shaped by their environment, their relationships (platonic, familial, romantic, ALL relationships), and their experiences. And we’re especially malleable as kids.
The part about treating women like people!!! Every time I point it out it’s either crickets or “typical mid response” “you don’t ask fish how to catch a fish” “nuh uh you all like terrible men as long as they’re Chad”. Newsflash- successful terrible men get women by at least PRETENDING to be super into them at the outset.
You are completely making up the part about attractiveness of victims. Younger women are the most common victims because they’re more often going to places like parties and bars and more likely to be single and getting assaulted on dates. Young women also don’t have the life experience to recognize certain red flags.
Ummm nearly all rape victims are absolutely not conventionally attractive girls in their teens and 20s. Men absolutely do rape old women because they are old and weak. Disabled people are also much more likely to be victims of SA. People in comas get raped ffs. Your comment is ridiculously ignorant.
So you hate narcissistic women who want to be validated on ig and tiktok, and if we’re on Reddit instead we’re not worth talking to. Do you see why someone might call you a misogynist?
I really don’t know that much about the details of TRP. Can you explain how “all women are like this” doesn’t mean all women are the same at least in some aspects? As a queer (mostly asexual) woman who gets mistaken for straight, it is just strange for me to read on this thread rants about how women are all delusional and hypergamous if they’re not interested in men on their own attractiveness level. Obviously TRP isn’t supposed to be about me, a woman who hasn’t had or wanted a non-platonic rel…
I didn’t say every accusation is automatic proof of guilt. I said most rapes - not most accusations - are never prosecuted. Which is a fact. I don’t want to get rid of due process for rape. I don’t have a solution, but the fact is that acquaintance rape and sexual assault is an ever present risk for people who date men, and yes it’s much more of a risk than the risk of being falsely accused.
Very, very few men have their lives ruined by false accusations, and most rapes will never even be prosecuted. The documentary “Victim/Suspect” shows how common it is now for police to charge women with false reporting without even investigating their claims. The book “Missoula” by Jon Krakauer is incredibly well-researched and shows many examples of how women who report their rapes are punished while the perpetrators go free.
I don’t personally see being balding as a failing but this is a guy who’s incredibly superficial about women “at or below his attractiveness level” and how he expects to “get” them but apparently doesn’t have as much success as he “should”. Seems like baldness would factor into those calculations
Yeah also if he’s talking about himself he’s a prematurely balding 30-something retail worker who does nothing but complain about everything, so I’m not sure how much success he “should” be having
But I usually go with whiny manosphere loser or similar. I’m not any kind of “pilled” but it sounds like you’re talking about yourself and you are a WML
Most straight women have interests other than men too. Y’all sound so ridiculous and immature and ignorant when you try to convince us half the population are the SAME. Women aren’t all the same just like thankfully all men aren’t like you deranged losers.
Also, if we’re talking specifically about abusers, they’re monsters but they also start out nice and cycle between lovebombing and abuse… guys like OP, to their detriment and our benefit, make their disdain and anger towards us clear from the start.
STOP using autistic when you mean selfish assholes!! I’m autistic (and a woman) and while there are definitely autistic RPers, the autism doesn’t cause misogyny. Autism doesn’t give you a persecution complex. Y’all say autistic like you want to say the r word. It shouldn’t be an insult. Lots of autistic people are great people. Lots are assholes. Just like any other group (see also men; women). People are individuals. Something OP really needs to learn.
Where’s your evidence that women claim their preferences are instinctual and without outside influence? Obviously beauty standards change all the time. I don’t know anyone who claims to be unaffected.
The guy who assaulted me didn’t have dangerous vibes at first, at least not that I was able to pick up on. Of course I was much younger and more naive and in a bad place mental health-wise. Just how dangerous men like their women.
False equivalence. Zero women are toddlers. Many - a small minority of the total, sure, but still probably adds up to millions worldwide- men are rapists. And if you personally find yourself being compared to a rapist, then you probably are at minimum, the kind of guy who would horribly defame a woman who made allegations against your buddy or favorite athlete. You don’t have to actually rape someone to be unsafe to us, a lot of y’all are just accomplices. MOST men aren’t constantly getting comp…
“Rightfully expect to be able to get women at or below their level of attractiveness” lmao what’s the difference between that and thinking women (at or below your level of attractiveness) owe you sex? You “rightfully” expect to get women… get them to do what exactly??
You only have like 7 thoughts that you repost weekly so l don’t really think you’re in a place to judge. Are you living under a rock???? Are you delusional???? ITS NEVER CORRECT TO SAY “ME AND MY FRIENDS”, ITS INSANELY IRRITATING THAT PEOPLE MAKE THIS MISTAKE who is Leo’s agent? Cum
Have you seen the documentary Victim/Suspect? Tons of cases in which police charge the victim with false reporting without even investigating her allegations in any substantive way. It’s infuriating
It literally doesn’t matter what he looks like. He’s a miserable whiner who hates everyone and everything. Who wants to spend time with someone like that?
This dude refuses to believe that women don’t like him because he’s a whiny hater. Like yes he is a misogynist bc he does hate women but he also hates everyone and everything except like, Scorsese
Good makeup is a skill. Being naturally flawless isn’t. Who “earned” it? Beauty standards for women to be a supposed “10” aren’t even attainable without makeup. Also people are allowed to be confident regardless of whether you think they’re hot.
