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| 2 | Textwalls will be deleted on sight.Probably it is being 60 and computer illiterate. | /r/askTRP | 22/10/15 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Racecar drivers and power liftersMasculinity is practically controlled aggression This is rather awesome quote material! | /r/askTRP | 22/10/15 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Racecar drivers and power liftersQuite frankly what I am interested is not how it affects women, but how it affects the man who is doing it. The insane confidence they emit, is that basically coming from knowing the kind of status htey have? | /r/askTRP | 22/10/15 03:34 PM |
| 2 | CMV: In a ways, i kinda understand why women are the way they are. Giving women all sexual power at an early age is akin to giving a child a billion dollars."Most women" include 90 years old great grandmas and forever virgin nuns in some monastery so that is a broad term. But the kind of women most discussed here, the kind one tries to pick up in a fashionable first-world bar or club, so the rather empty headed blonde bimbos, yes, they are on the phone fishing for attention. Men really not so much especially if you consider this is more of an introverted nerdy culture on Reddit. But even extroverts not, I see more often they post memes and jokes and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Racecar drivers and power liftersThis is a theoretical discussion, but thanks for the advice. I am just trying to figure out how things work in general, not personally looking into doing this. I am more into motorbikes anyway, but it is just a theoretical discussion now. | /r/askTRP | 21/10/15 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Racecar drivers and power liftersThank you, this is definitely making sense. I remember reading one of Arnold's books decades ago when he wrote some famous chess player is squatting with heavy weights, merely as a way to increase his concentration ability. So if I get it right the universality of this go lift bro advice rests on its easy accessibility and universally proven results, but should not be seen as the only thing ever - men who have serious dedication to some other form of exercise or sport can be excused, and mere si… | /r/askTRP | 21/10/15 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Will I ever be able to get the kind of respect and attention that my friend gets from society and women?I'd also say, LASIK. Glasses are rarely good. There is a certain type of man who can pull that off well, a masculine professor type, but that is more like a tall white guy. It is just better not. Easier. | /r/askTRP | 21/10/15 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Racecar drivers and power liftersThank you, this is interesting. But what I was really interested in is whether things that are not very phsysical, but very dangerous and challenging and competitive, do similar psychological transformation as say lifting? Through T or other hormones or something? Of course you point is that this type of driving is physical in a way, good point. I really just wonder what makes these drivers so "swag". Born that way, or this insane challenge and danger helped somehow. The idea that these guys wer… | /r/askTRP | 21/10/15 09:27 AM |
| 3 | CMV: In a ways, i kinda understand why women are the way they are. Giving women all sexual power at an early age is akin to giving a child a billion dollars.True, women crave validation more than sex - but this is exactly what all the thirsty guys are offering! That is why they are always on the phone. "Look at my lovely new outfit" - 200 likes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:58 AM |
| 1 | TRP mistakenly applies male thinking to female behavior.but the idea is that lifting gives you the swagger This kind of confuses me. If I recall my teenagerhood, lifting indeed gave me more confidence, but did not change me that fundamentally from timid to swag. It was more like timid to normal. Eh, this is hard to define. Clearly I had way more swag than before and managed to get the level that I consider normal. But I wasn't like the guys who just enter a room and everybody falls silent from respect. Truth be told, lots of guys have natural swag wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:40 AM |
| 2 | TRP mistakenly applies male thinking to female behavior.For women, if they have sex with a man in order to get commitment and he never calls her again, this counts as a failure. Her preferred sexual strategy is LTR's. She only counts causal sex as a success if he commits afterwards. True - but acknowledged in RP. Namely that random sluttery is actually stupid and counter-productive to happiness. Happens anyway. It's empirical, not theoretical. For women, sexual attraction builds over time. Go to a fucking bar already. It is empirical, not a theory. J… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:29 AM |
| 1 | What sub is most like the redpill subs? What sub is most like the blue pill?But the poon stuff is PUA/Game/Seduction - you don't really need anything else. You can just read PUA blogs like Danger and Play. I think some elements of tradcon philosophy were always part of the Manosphere /RP because just guys were interested why men need this seduction stuff today and why did not needed them in the past. But yes, that racialist stuff on CH is approaching the tradcon stuff the wrong way around, clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:15 AM |
| 1 | What are either sides opinions on this couple?Post-wall? I see like 27 tops. But I am never really good at judging age. Maybe it is just cosmetics. I just think actual post-wall, so 33+ means usually fatter and wrinklier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 03:37 PM |
| 1 | What are either sides opinions on this couple?I largely agree, save for her figure. She is pregnant. Wait, she is only about 2 months pregnant. That usually means losing some weight, due to frequent vomiting. The gainzzzz come 3+ months. Props for noticing the closed leg posture, I haven't seen that. You know when you are surrounded by people like this, this seems almost normal. At least not a huge fatty or a short blue hair tumblrina type, one thinks. And then you suddenly meet a couple where the woman is actually attracted to the man. Wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 03:36 PM |
| 1 | What are either sides opinions on this couple?Mostly red: funny how it is the usual setup these days: the man does not have a tough face, the woman has a tough face. Really looks like the woman is the boss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 03:29 PM |
| 3 | How to reconcile conflicting BP/feminist perceptions regarding RP and "patriarchy"?Modern reality has two layers. Let me use an example. The layer that is called the mainstream media, and colleges, and Western educated white well-to do middle classes and so on. Then there is everybody else. Using an example: in the first layer, almost nobody would dare ever to be homophobic. In public not even jokingly, and even in private only jokingly, not seriously. In the second layer, homophobia is pretty common. Amongst working class Western whites, amongst blacks, amongst immigrants, pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 02:40 PM |
| 2 | What sub is most like the redpill subs? What sub is most like the blue pill?I think these pills overlap with certain personalities and subcultures which overlap with politics. So SRS, feminist, liberal, and similar social-justicy subs will overlap with TBP. TRP is harder as it rather overlaps with Reaction, and Reaction is not very represented on Reddit. In fact TRP is understood as part of Masculine Reaction and that is part of Reaction: http://neorxn.com/introduction/ I would say, it overlaps with an attitude that at the same time both rebellious and conservative. In … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 02:31 PM |
| 6 | On r/thebluepill there's a post about a TRP endorsed contributer who "saw the light" and left TRP. Do you believe it?The problem with the story is that it almost sounds like religious deconversion. I don't think the Manosphere is a religion. I think one has to make a difference between the community and the basic ideas. Leaving the community is something I can understand - I never really joined it the first place. One can easily think being mired in negative vibes, which is kinda common, and beingn surrounded with angry dudes is not really the best way to spend your life. It's a personal choice. Some guys need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 02:25 PM |
| 5 | Are we headed towards matriarchy? What will it look like for women? For men?Highly unlikely, because if any place has only weak men, other men will immigrate/conquer/whatever as there is no significant pushback and besides on the raw instinct level women like the idea. You get the classic "cuck" situation where local guy works his ass off while the girls rather fuck the immigrants instead. Eventually they take over. So yes, it is possible that Western Civ as such disappears, but it is not really possible that patriarchy does. It will be someone else's patriarchy in its … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 01:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV: women are the major responsibles for gender role enforcement promoting traditional masculinity by giving more attention to masculine guys in relationships and sex.I think you have noticed I don't fully identify with RP (no flair) - I just learn important ideas from Manosphere blogs. On Reddit, RP seems a little bit too much of an echo chamber & more focus on complaints than solutions. But that is more part of a generic Reddit problem - hiveminds and antihiveminds - than a Manosphere problem. In other words, whatever problems you see here can also be seen not as a Manosphere problem but as the overlap between Manosphere and Reddit. This is my favorite Mano… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/15 09:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: women are the major responsibles for gender role enforcement promoting traditional masculinity by giving more attention to masculine guys in relationships and sex.No, my point was just this is not good enough to brag about. If good enough for you, fine, just not really bragging material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 08:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: women are the major responsibles for gender role enforcement promoting traditional masculinity by giving more attention to masculine guys in relationships and sex.I must admit I am almost 40 and don't really understand the current 20 years old - the whole generation looks a bit soft compared to us who generally tried ti be like James Hetfield. "I need the sex, why won't the females sex me? Why is the focus on sex and not relationships? This is a common BP misunderstanding. Granted, the "leaders" at RP like Roosh are absolutely sex obsessed - but a lot of guys are actually just wanting he validation that comes from being able to have a relationship and the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 08:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: women are the major responsibles for gender role enforcement promoting traditional masculinity by giving more attention to masculine guys in relationships and sex.Yes there is an intelligent 10% upper crust who hates that. But the tramp stamp types, who get drunk every weekend? Nope. The very fact you argue here puts you in the top 10% of intelligence. So try to approach it non-solipsistically and put yourself in some average womans shoes. For example imagine you are a bit racist. For intelligent people that is horrifying, but average people do drop a few watermelon jokes here and there. If you can imagine that then you know some average people. I am abso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:41 PM |
| 1 | What's the outcome of the Western society? How can I as a 19 year old prepare for it?Why can't these guys just find their way into a boxing gym? Most fun outside sex I ever had, because it is the most basic, most visceral kind of competition. And on the hobby level it does not have to be expensive. Sure those who actually want to win something, that takes money and time. But those who just enjoy sparring or the in-gym competitions, ranking lists, it is really a cheap sport and gym membership does not have to be expensive either as the equipment required is not such a big deal. A… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/10/15 02:39 PM |
| 4 | "Your ambitions are valid"Sometimes I wonder why rich in a rich country is the standard discussion starting point in these subs. I mean my mom, mother in law, wife do work, but it is not some kind of an empowering career bullshit but basically toiling for money the family needs. Especially in the American discourse everybody below upper middle class is not noticed. When Americans talk about working women, they talk about the (probably white) woman sitting in an office writing e-mails, not the (probably Hispanic) woman cl… | /r/RedPillWomen | 13/10/15 02:35 PM |
| 0 | The widening definition of abuseYou tolerated beatings for a year? Talk about bad boys being sexually attractive... if he wasn't you would have called the police on him the first time. And that would have been the right thing IMHO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:31 PM |
| 1 | The widening definition of abuseIt is weird that now even emotional withdrawal is abuse. Not talking for a day or two because of a fight is normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:29 PM |
| 1 | What songs remind you of the other pill?Blue: every babyiloveyoubeybe babyiwontleaveyoubeybe boyband ever Purple: those fairly explicit shake dat booty shake dat booty uwa uwa house / hip-hop songs Red: Britney Spears - Criminal. Or some Viking Metal. Sorry I am not very good about knowing song titles or authors. I am usually drunk when the DJ plays them. And I don't really listen to music at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Question to all pills: What do you think about the other branches of the "manosphere"?I am weirded out by MGTOW a bit. I just call that a "bachelor". Is the social pressure to marry so high in USA that bachelorhood requires a special name and ideology? Isn't it standard default for all men who are not yet madly in love or ready to have kids (that happes over 30) ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Question to all pills: What do you think about the other branches of the "manosphere"?The Omegasphere - from FA, to Wizardchan, Sluthate, incels and others LOLWUT the first time I hear about them. Sounds like school shooter material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:22 PM |
| 5 | CMV: women are the major responsibles for gender role enforcement promoting traditional masculinity by giving more attention to masculine guys in relationships and sex.how do you explain all the band geeks and art fags who are getting head, like, right now By saying masc and fem are not two opposites but two different sliders. Those guys are high on both like Michael Jackson or Prince. Most are high on one and low on another. Most boys who are called unmasculine and are unsuccesful with girls are not actually good at being feminine, like Michael Jackson was or those art fags are. They suck at both, which means they are just gray, boring and depressed. There is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:20 PM |
| 6 | CMV: women are the major responsibles for gender role enforcement promoting traditional masculinity by giving more attention to masculine guys in relationships and sex.Doesn't stop me from doing 50 pushups and situps a da That is impressive for a 75 year old. If by any chance you are not, if you happen to be under 55, do yourself a favor and make those 50 push-ups one-handed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:16 PM |
| 18 | CMV: women are the major responsibles for gender role enforcement promoting traditional masculinity by giving more attention to masculine guys in relationships and sex.They aren't. They are unmasculine traits. That is not the same. Two separate sliders. This means be strong, brave, non-shy, and social, and nobody will say they are not feminine. But when women lacks these traits that is also accepted. When these traits are lacked by men, they are a failure. So basically unmasculine traits are not the same as feminine ones. Rather one could say they are good traits, and good traits are mandatory for men, optional for women, because of the difference is sex drive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV: women are the major responsibles for gender role enforcement promoting traditional masculinity by giving more attention to masculine guys in relationships and sex.Interestingly... if a dude is feminine, androgynous, like a faboulous gay guy just in straight, he often gets laid. But if he lacks both feminine and masculine energy, if he is just gray, boring, depressed, then not. I mean feminine and masculine are not simply opposites but two separate sliders. Usually one is high and the other low. But sometimes both high (Michael Jackson, Prince, Lara Croft) and all too often, for unsuccesful men, they are both low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?This weirds me out, because the idea of status was one of the first big ideas around 10 years ago when PUA / RP was invented. E.g. one trick was "value drops". Look it up. It was about hinting you are rich etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 08:30 AM |
| 1 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?I guess I have not read enough RP to be really clear how it is standardly used. But from some threads I've read, sometimes "dominance" is used in a bit of a... more aggressive... sense like "I totally crushed that shit test". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?Status does not generate sexual attraction. You serious? This is actually a core RP tenet that high-status men are alphas, that women crave high-status men and suchlike. The difference is how exactly status works in various ages and groups. Yes today a doctor is not high status enough. A high paycheck is just beta bucks. But a popular actor... but a popular musician... think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?Dominance just means the ability to influence one's own surroundings so as to shape it to one's liking. Frankly this is a very bad usage. For example if you want to influence people, very often you would be more succesful by playing nice and if needed stabbing them in the back or something. Anyhow, many ways to influence people, some are rougher, some more of a silver-tongue approach. And yet interpersonally dominant behavior always means stuff like "not taking shit from no one" (and that is sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?True, and the medical stuff is terribly outdated, that is cool for 1990 (when the book was published) but today that is beta bucks territory. But the distinction is still useful as dominance is more of an interpersonal game while eminence is more about achieving a thing - so for example I would put weight lifting into eminence territory and MMA into dominance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?Hmm, good point. But here is an interesting thing. Still the effect is purely social. So dominance is a purely monkey-monkey interaction which does not involve different things. The equivalent of eminence would be, IDK, finding a huge banana tree or chasing away a predator or something. So basically doing something the group values, but not necessarily just an interpersonal game... but an achievement. So in this sense, dominance would be merely interpersonal control, while eminence would be cont… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 04:16 PM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?I don't understand this hostile tone. Lying? What? You think I came here to fight? I am discussing a sociobiological concept with guys I expected to be like-minded (I am generally getting along well with the Manosphere) and get treated like some hostile SJW. My point is, my OWN statement is that eminence is easier. That eminence is a form of achievement people respect is not my statement but a basic sociobiological concept. Hello! I am discussing a book here, not made up stuff! Did you look at t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?No, I use it in the sense of sociobiology (winning fights). Shit I don't understand what is going on in this thread. I open a thread about a concept of sociobiology. Source a book. Quote it. Then everybody reacts to it as if I was just making things up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 04:10 PM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?OK this is a good point that both is useful (this is also implied in my post) I just see dominance discussed more, probably because it is used in a far more broader sense than in sociobiology (not just competitive outcomes, but much of eminence as well). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?The doctor just an example. Eminence is whatever achievement your group values. If it is all down to tramps and Chads now, what achievement do they value? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?I did not redefine it, I use it in the sense sociobiology uses it. See the Kemper book. Dominance is something monkeys get by fighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?But it is not my reasoning, I am summarizing the research (mainly the Kemper book). Also, where is the bias? My only statement is that eminence is easier (less scary) ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Eminence works roughly like dominance and easier. Why not focus on that?No, I am trying to interpret a study. It is perfectly possible - I hinted at it - that that kind of eminence is outdated. But in a declining world there are also eminences of a new kind. And they can be easier because unlike dominance they require no social confrontation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 03:45 PM |
| 1 | When Hypergamy doesn't care and women are primarily attracted to status and security, why do some stay with a man in ill health?They switch from sexual love to caring, motherly love. The stop sucking his dick and treat him like a child of theirs instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 02:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV "bloodlines" are not important in Western society in 2015Literally true, but only because society is fucked up. I have three choices. One is to kill myself. Not depressed enough for that. The second is to enjoy the decline. Too depressed for that. Third is to have legacy and just hope they will carry something on. Just hope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 02:55 PM |
| 1 | The Chad of my world (TRP need not apply)Then my guess was good that it is about class. Did the girls have tattoes? Did they get blind drunk every friday? No? Therein lies your answer. "Chad" is for trashier girls, and the stereotype is getting popular as the acceptance of trashiness climbs higher and higher up the social hierarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 02:52 PM |
| 1 | The Chad of my world (TRP need not apply)Sounds like a class difference. I think you described (some) trust-fund girls growing up in some elite boarding school in Switzerland. "Chad" is more of a lower-class stereotype, Tucker Max being the best example. That attitude used to be lower class although climbing higher and higher up. Today a lot of rich folks just behave like proles with money so for them "Chad" works. A heuristic: did the girls had tattoos? I figure not. "Chad" is for girls who have tattoos. I.e. kinda trampy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 02:50 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of Donald Trump? He is the embodiment of Redpill behavior. Is he a man you respect or would seek to emulate?Too American for me, as in, his class (classiness) does not match his immense wealth. He is simply not behaving as aristocratic as I would expect a rich guy to. More of a "beer and burger guy". Americans actually tend to respect it, but I am a Euro, I take class divisions seriously. Also, behaving classy does not mean behaving beta. James Bond movies - except the latest SJW shit - are a good example of being aristocratically alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Lets Make Incel Camps (Not that kind of Camp here me out!)You mean mother, as in single mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 02:42 PM |
| 22 | The TRP Guide for Increasing TestosteroneAll fine but in rhesus monkeys winning status competitions and getting a high place in hierarchy can increase testosterone by tenfold. Think about it. TENFOLD. So stuff like vitamins are NOTHING compared to winning competitions and gaining status. In other words, testosterone should be increased socially. Basically "winning" (anything) or gaining respect matters more than stuff like Zinc. Source Monaghan and Glickman 1992, rhesus 281–82; quartile: Rose et al. 1974, 296–98; Moyer 1987, 22. More i… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/10/15 03:04 PM |
| 2 | The TRP Guide for Increasing TestosteroneAbout IF: replace "don't eat" with "don't consume calories". So no soda either. Today people drink much of their calories. I guess that is why so many are fat. Would be hard to get so fat on solid food only. It was a bit difficult to figure out for me, but on IF my morning coffe should consist of 1) coffee, we use espresso machine 2) cold water, instead of cold milk, to cool it down 2) artificial sweetener. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/10/15 02:59 PM |
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