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I'm not at all arguing that women can get casual sex if they want far more easily than men, which is a simple matter of demand/supply -- for whatever reasons (let's not get into that) The CDC also reports that virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males aged 20 to 24. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/ So yes you are right, fewer women are virgins at 20-24, it seems like women lose their virginity later ON AVERAGE but m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 03:35 PM
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In what state is abortion legal at 8 months when there's no health issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:01 PM
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??? Not if the guy fucks off at like 8 months. Abortion is not always an option. Plus, some people truly think abortion is murder and won't do it. Not me, I'm all for abortion up to 400 months. But, you know. Some.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 08:50 PM
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Except with a financial abortion there's still a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 08:00 PM
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Uhhh you know the ramifications of ending support for children of single parents are hugely negative for any society right? Money won't just appear out of nowhere, the kids are just going to suffer and lead shittier lives leading to a shittier generation. You'll just be making more poor people. Who will, btw, keep having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:59 PM
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lol I wrote out a whole tirade but suffice to say, nope. If there's a man out there who can actually make me happy in exchange for some pussy... I'll believe it when I see it. But that's not something you can just open wide for, ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:16 PM
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Sorry, but what tf are those guys going to 'fix' exactly? Are they not just going to try to fuck me, a potentially vacant vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:27 PM
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Really? This is ridiculous. Where are my allotted hordes of men coming to fix my shit. Seriously though. I think you have some good points where people tend to revolve around their stereotypes - some might get further out in orbit than others but in the end we're all fundamentally slaves to our urges, the difference between people is in how much self control and willpower we have, how much patience we're willing to have, etc. But the idea that women are constantly just sitting around waiting for…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:16 PM
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Sure but unattached people who are 40 also get depressed. Maybe for different reasons but I'm pretty sure it's just a function of realizing you're getting older and this is your life. Whatever life that is. Realizing maybe it's harder/not fulfilling enough and you're slowing down and tiring more easily. Happens to everyone. Of course, then you hit a second wind at 50-60 and (hopefully) start living your best life yet... some people don't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:13 PM
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Binge watching tv and fucking around on social media does not require a functioning brain or any amount of thought. Believe me, I can do both of those things while severely exhausted and it's BECAUSE it takes no effort. This is a pretty ridiculous comment lol. "Because you have time to sit around, you must be able to go do things!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:10 PM
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Really? There's definitely way more of a musty scent I associate with people who tend to stay put on their couches but it might just have something to do with the amount of laundry (not) being done too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:04 PM
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So I looked it up and while it seems like a lot, it's not a difference between men and women: More and more young people are abstaining. No less than 27 percent of 15- to 24-year-old men have never had any form of sexual contact (oral, vaginal, or anal) with another person, up from 22 percent in 2002. Meanwhile, 29 percent of females in that age bracket have never had sex, also up from 22 percent at the time of the last study. So yea 27 (Or 28) % is a lot but it's the even higher for women. In f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:02 PM
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I mean, it's not a double standard. Driving drunk is an act you are doing. Getting raped while drunk is an act DONE TO YOU. You are not getting "drunk driving" done to you, you are the one doing it. People are still responsible for their actions when drunk but this doesn't mean they can be responsible for the acts done to them or able to protect themselves or refuse in the same way as they can when sober. I will say that there can definitely be enthusiastic, non-coerced, non-rape sex when someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:50 PM
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Confused about where you get "third of the male population"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:38 PM
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Honestly I have standards that are way too low mostly cuz I'm insecure in my appearance. I'm aware that basically every guy is willing to sleep with just about anyone so it's meaningless... I'm working on it. I've found myself in mediocre relationship after mediocre relationship bc I'm unwilling to do my gender's 'job' of 'selecting'. Frankly subreddits like this amaze me with guys talking about how women are TOO PICKY because believe me, y'all do not want women who aren't picky... Guys don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:34 PM
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tbh if they're too dumb it makes me feel like it would genuinely be unethical to have sex with them. can't do it. we've all known people that stupid, right? I'm talking about, saying stuff that regularly makes you think "holy shit how are you still alive" on a daily basis...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:26 PM
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"man stink" means like, a whiff of sweat for a couple minutes after you work out but pre-shower, not perpetual BO.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:24 PM
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I mean yes if it's purely about meeting sexual needs everyone can get fucks if that's ALL THEY WANT. Hell the variety and popularity of sex work has never been higher. Incels can literally buy girlfriends if that's all they want. But news flash, people don't want to do that. MOST people want to get sex on terms they like, with someone they want, knowing that they too are genuinely wanted... at the least. So yes. There must be some desire for emotional connection. Otherwise there would be zero di…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:23 PM
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Yeah that's like a guy saying "WHAT I WANT IN A WOMAN: *HOT *BOOBS *BUTT" Like, aight then, good talk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:18 PM
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I mean, this is a gen zer we're talking about (early months of being 17, sending memes?).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:16 PM
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Chiming in as a different women who agrees, the buzzed look is awful unless you're military (in which case I'm still not into that but at least it's a style). I mean, I imagine if you're literally model gorgeous you can pull it off but that says nothing about the actual haircut. However I would probably prefer bald to a super receding hairline.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:15 PM
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The thing is this definitely only works if you're already a plausible match. If you're creepy uncle joe, plz do not move your relatives and their friends around by the waist thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:11 PM
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There's a difference in body odor from like... not showering enough and just stewing in your unbathed stench on the couch... and the smell from working out, running, hard exercise, etc. I've found that the former is generally universally gross but the latter, people can get into.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:07 PM
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Sure, but if you want kids and you aren't gay, the only other option is single parenthood, which frankly is way too fucking hard for most people. Not to say it's impossible, some men and women manage to step up to the plate in truly superhuman ways. But if I didn't have a partner willing to share the responsibilities, no way I'd want to have a kid. I've seen how hard it is on TWO people. I guess there is a third option -- having great amazing parents who really want to help care for their grandc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:23 PM
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I mean yeah. Breakups can feel worse than death of a partner. I don't think it says anything about the severity of the situation but rather human psychology. Obviously someone dying is more serious than them breaking up with someone, by any metric. So clearly the difference is psychological. We prefer endings to be finite, clear, have some kind of 'closure' etc. Everyone is familiar in some way with death and mortality, even if someone dies in a sudden and tragic accident, or of drawn-out cancer…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:59 PM
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I mean, if you're not focused on raising your kids preferring to go fuck women to enjoy yourself instead of spending time with them you can be pretty sure they'll be fucked up. More fucked up than if you have any different isolating hobby, like the dads who vanish to work 24/7 or go play golf? Meh. We've established that it's an open relationship so whatever. Just kind of depends on how much time you're expending. The guy who vanishes every weekend to continue his camping trips by himself leavin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:46 PM
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about 28 percent of married college-graduates attended the same college A pretty hefty percentage, but still, a vast majority of people meet and marry outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:19 PM
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The internet. DO NOT watch normal porn expecting to learn good things. That's like watching a shitty action movie expecting it to teach you how to use a gun. But there is informative porn out there made by women -- not to jerk off to, but to learn from. Read guides from actual human beings. Google is good for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:15 PM
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To be fair, 3 boyfriends in 2 years is just normal dating. Around 4-6 months is when you should break it off anyway if you're not feeling it, long enough to give each other a chance, short enough to not be too emotionally entrenched and fucked up by the breakup. I'd venture the main issue is not figuring out that she didn't want to be with them earlier on before they were established as a 'couple'. Unless she's introducing them all to family, pretending she's going to marry each one etc which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:04 PM
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There are plenty of other differences between people besides pure appearance. Perhaps male models don't make the best relationship material. Perhaps the women aren't solely looking for a hot fuck. Life has context that "look at pics of these two men, which would you be more willing to have sex with" does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 05:58 PM
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I mean, kind of, but if that's the case wouldn't there be many more discontent single women around? Instead it seems like there are far, far more discontent single men. However, men are happier than women within a marriage, is it possible that's relevant to the difference in standards? i.e. perhaps 'settling' leads women to be more discontent, because they can think to themselves "well I always could have been with ___ instead" however delusional that may be. So, perhaps some women are happier w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:12 PM
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Yea you said this way more concisely than I did. Also, it's not like all sex is equal. If someone gives this guy a blowjob is he gonna say "oh well, this was a mutually enjoyable activity we both wanted to do, so see ya."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:04 PM
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Sure, but it's proven that women on average and as a whole have lower libido than men. I don't care about your personal anecdote about dating a nympho or how much great sex you have with women who are super into it, facts are that most women want less sex than most men and women get way, way less orgasms than men, particularly in one night stands but also in long term relationships - there's a study out there claiming women only orgasm maybe 70% of the time per 'sexual event' in an LTR than men'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:58 PM
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this has held true in every friend, study and work group I've been part of over my 30 years Are you male or female though? Because if male, that means those groups were co-ed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:51 PM
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I mean no, what really happens when you confine a large group of only men together (see: jail, the navy).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:50 PM
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Wow, I wonder how close to reality Survivor is! Amazing. I wonder if the type of woman who applies to being on a reality show is at all a self-selecting group. Hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:48 PM
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Women need a strategy if they're competing for guys who have choices. They don't if literally all they want is a penis. Fortunately for everyone, the bar is slightly higher than that. And yes, it's 'fortunate', because someone has to have higher standards. If men raise their standards enough women inevitably have to either lower theirs slightly or improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 09:47 PM
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Too seriously: Yeah ditto everyone saying n-count. When young perhaps it matters more, but by the time you're 35 or 40, it has little meaning unless it's 0. People could have been in so many different scenarios none of which should make me think lesser of them, whether they were with the same person exclusively for a decade, or if they were swingers for five years racking up quite a body count, or if they've just been single and hopping around. Whatever. Who they were a decade ago is barely who …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 07:41 PM
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Are you a native english speaker? It's the n-word with a hard r. Lol. Irrelevant to n-count except for the 'joke' about an 'n-word-count'
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 07:32 PM
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You're partly right honestly. It's true that SAHM definitely used to be harder, far more of a full time or even more job depending on household size (I say 'more' than full time because previously, you would HAVE to enlist the older children to take on chores and part of the childcare as well, such that it was more like a 1.5 person full time job). However these days it can be at a similar amount of work depending on what it is you do. The 'baseline' of having a running household is much easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 07:30 PM
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I don't know how to explain this in a way that isn't full of anecdotes, but suffice to say, teenagers are fucking stupid. See: social media. See: teens who do dumb shit with nudes. See: literally, their brain development and education level. However, a review of the data presented by the NCPTP (1997) shows that adult males age 20 and older, not teenage males, father the large majority of births to mothers under age 20 (an estimated 280,000 of the 430,000 births in 2002). However, this important …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 07:05 PM
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Dude B was even worse because he gave her some weed at his house before he fucked her, which apparently didn't agree with her as she was found wandering down a busy street naked by the cops. Uh, jesus. Is this guy also fucking dumb? Because I genuinely don't understand otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 06:54 PM
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Tbh the guy you are talking to here literally just makes me think that the "let them eat cake" folks have it right, some people not only can't be helped, they actively resist it. I am usually not one to judge people who are unable to find a fulfilling relationship, or anyone who has had bad experiences with the other gender, but it's hard not to judge when they seem to genuinely not like women or want to spend any time with a woman if it's not for sex, I mean, what? What the hell do they want? J…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 06:42 PM
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A bit belatedly, but I fully disagree that people are "just their bodies". For instance, the words you are reading right now, they come from me. Do they not? Yet they are not an extension of my body. If I read Plato or Socrates, what I am reading is information passed on from someone else, it is a 'part of' that philosopher. Yet it's not of their body, in fact, has probably been reprinted and reformatted and translated and edited so it is not even their original words. Their character and person…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 04:57 PM
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They're poor, they're living with roommates like it's a college dorm situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 04:42 PM
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Yes he absolutely should dump her if all he is a paycheck and therapy for her. WTF is this? I mean, to be fair, I'm like 30% with my bf because I can play breath of the wild on his switch and he'll comfort me when I fall off cliffs and die :p but seriously, how on earth does anyone think you can get a good partnership if all you are to one another is 'paycheck/comfort machine' and 'consistent sex'? If that's what someone's relationship boils down to, it should end (or just stay as 'benefits', no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 04:15 PM
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tbh it's not just that, women just don't really find guys attractive at first look. If you think about it, I believe this is actually not a 'bad' thing, it's just another indicator of women being responsive -- many people in the thread mention that they don't consciously think of a man's facial or physical attractiveness until he expresses interest, at which point it's yes/no, as opposed to how men think of women's attractiveness (the stereotypical rating system is such a male thing to do). That…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 03:48 PM
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Fully agreed that it's comparative expectations. It's the same reason why people are so dissatisfied with their appearances these days. You think that people weren't ugly as fuck in the past? Please, give me a break, I'm willing to bet that (barring obesity) people have much better options for enhancing appearances in modern times. Yet, because of social media and such, you're constantly comparing yourself to a fictionalized version of someone who is literally tailor made to look a certain way, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 03:05 PM
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I'm confused. It's 4am where I am so maybe I just don't understand? You say "sex before date will force her to redo x,y,z and she won't like it", I say "no it won't if you do a,b,c" and you say "I don't need that info"? I just explained how sex before a date can still be enjoyed by both people lmao. What is being exposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 09:32 AM
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come up with solutions yourself then? \o/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 09:29 AM
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Sex before makeup/hairdo too. Be thoughtful with that kinda shit. Just fuck immediately after first shower but before the time consuming bullshit. Best way to do it is you flirt a little then shower first, she showers and you dry off/get the lube out/put a towel down/whatever, put the moves on (I'm not gonna do a step by step here) and have some passionate sex. Bonuses: oral is way more likely if you're freshly cleaned. If she's got soggy wet hair put a towel on the pillow first. It's a science.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 08:03 AM
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Many young women (21-) are into boyish, twinky looking guys. Think skinny hot musicians, lanky models. Ofc you certainly can't be fat, but they aren't necessarily 'built', agree that's a toss up these days in particular. But yes, status, height, hot faces, and money above all. Of course, it won't last without some of the personality aspects, but it seems that trp doesn't care about that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 07:55 AM
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Literally this whole post is just you disagreeing with other people's subjective opinions. This very thread includes a list of reasons for attraction to any of those people and you doing the textual equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and going "no you're wrong they're ugly". Hollywood seems to disagree with you as well, so there clearly is 'some' way it makes sense. Perhaps you should consider that other people do have internal logic but you aren't listening to it? People are attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:04 PM
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u/Believeinyourflyness read the parent comment this is completely correct. yes ofc there's a base level of attractiveness for 'hot enough' but once met, it's all about the charisma, the voice, and the persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 04:52 PM
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Most flat photographs of men may not be sexually arousing to women, but that doesn't make men in general unattractive to women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 04:41 PM
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Realistically speaking there are plenty of below average women who are not interested in casual sex but may be open to a relationship, though not seeking one actively. In fact, probably most of them aren't having casual sex with anyone, chad or not. The problem is they're also not available then, they have insular communities/friend groups and if the women don't get out much and aren't on tinder/bumble trying to fuck 'chad' (ugh wtf), the ordinary men aren't just going to find them randomly. Lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 04:39 PM
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You can complain about cooking and cleaning all you want, but when all is said and done, women are the one who receive the better end of the deal here. Are you talking about housewives? Partners who also work? Chore distribution or one person doing all the chores? I think this is something each partnership determines for itself. I pretty much disagree that cooking/cleaning/housework is a better deal than working, but that's because I like my job, I get to work from home half the time anyway so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 04:32 PM
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Hell, just a little bit upthread someone said that "If it wasn't for sex men wouldn't even go near women." There's literally no point talking to people who believe that sort of thing. Men and women can have greatly fulfilling, joyful relationships, but to people who can't even comprehend such a thing and genuinely think that anyone who claims otherwise is lying -- which seems more and more common on this sub ever since it got flooded by people from banned communities -- there's just nowhere to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 04:27 PM
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Logically, sure. It makes no sense to tie yourself to someone else for life based on their present state when we're all constantly changing. But we have chemical reactions in our brain and that goes out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 04:21 PM
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This is just a dumb opinion. I mean c'mon. Breath of the wild is a masterpiece.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:42 AM
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Removing a clump of cells from a uterus is pretty much exactly like taking it off the feeding/oxygen tube, if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:33 PM
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Yes, infants born to parents who don't want them and can't take care of them do tend to suffer. It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:32 PM
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this sounds absurd but it's pretty accurate tbh. if someone is married for 20 years, joins a swingers club, and fucks dozens of carefully vetted people with their committed partner as a hobby, that is vastly different from a single person who has been partying it up going to clubs and has a ton of (risky, careless) one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:20 PM
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Most of the worst manwhores I knew were kind of like that. They just constantly needed approval in the form of women willing to fuck, but were also cocky/aggressively 'confident' over a steaming pile of insecurity on the inside. They knew what to say to women, but they weren't very in touch with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:12 PM
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It's funny, the older people are the more you can tell if they took care of themselves in the past. All 20 year olds are pretty similar barring MAJOR health issues. But at 70, if you didn't take care of yourself you're probably on your deathbed or at least look like it, but also, there are 70 y/o marathon runners and swimmers who are still more spry and fit than people decades younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:11 PM
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Hyperbole, do you know it. Younger people can be pleasant enough conversationalists but imagining going on even a lengthy road trip with one, with nobody else to speak to, for hours... oh dear. I've had to do that with some younger cousins and it's bearable because I must love them, but even then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:40 PM
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Well yes. This actually does end up being how it works in reality. i.e. how many women do you see working as movers? The people best suited for the jobs get them. Nobody is going to hire a scrawny person for the job if it requires moving heavy furniture around for hours. However, once they have been hired and if they are working sufficiently to reach those employment standards, they should receive equal pay for doing the same job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:04 PM
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A couple anecdotes do not make a trend. Kylo Ren is buff as hell. I will concede villains are usually white men but IMO that's because it's 'safe' these days, the stereotypical chinese or jewish villain is extremely, extremely outdated/stereotyped & I imagine they just don't want that biting them in the ass. However films are exploring (a little bit) women as villains (Julianne Moore in Kingsman: The Golden Circle), also the first film has Samuel L. Jackson as the bad guy. I'm fairly sure 100% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:51 PM
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It really, really depends on where you live too. If tats are common in your city then they mean very little and indicate almost nothing about that person. If they're extremely uncommon then having one probably means more. i.e. if you live in NYC or LA, someone with a tat could be literally anyone from any walk of life, could be an amazing expensive work of art or just an impulsive marking. If you live in nowhere, kansas, it's probably trashy and unattractive. Stereotyping? Sure. But pattern matc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:22 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/head-games/201305/how-do-people-view-women-tattoos Interestingly (and a bit strangely) men seem to find women with tattoos slightly less attractive than without, but they also approach them far more! aka guys think girls with tattoos are 'easier', perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:20 PM
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Not every meal you eat is going to be amazing, not every show you watch is going to be mindblowing, not every time you fuck is going to be new heights of bliss, you might not even get off every time (less common for men than women, but still happens). Sex is great, but let's be real, sometimes it's better and sometimes it's just alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:52 PM
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But if it's that big, he could get casual sex, so...?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:57 PM
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I'm sure it's very true for certain cultures but at least in progressive parts of the US, I think general sentiment is leaning more along the lines of "I'd rather be a bachelor/live the single life forever than be tied to someone shitty". Although I definitely have friends from religious households who feel the pressure more keenly (pushed to get married at 19~20) which is crazy to me. So this is probably just one of those heavily location/culture dependent things. As a general trend though, peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:38 PM
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no explorer or adventurer ever came from a poor background. being able to take a month-long break from work to throw yourself into the wilderness a 10+ hour flight away is a luxury of people in the first world lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:44 PM
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if you aren't getting what you want. if you actually enjoy spending time with someone, it's not a cost to you. and if you don't, you probably shouldn't be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:40 PM
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why would you marry an unattractive, unpleasant woman to begin with? I'm like 99% sure most guys who get divorce raped thought they were making the right choice in the beginning... if they knew from the start it was awful it's their own fault lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:33 PM
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I disagree, murder is not something that is particularly encouraged in the animal kingdom either (discounting mothers eating their young, which I don't THINK counts... if you include it it's probably far, far more common lmao). Just look at when wild adult animals fight, it is usually with dominance displays, loud bellows/roars, chasing each other out of territory, etc. Even in a bloody battle for supremacy, for instance between big cats, it's not usually to the death. You will far more rarely s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:27 PM
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animals can be jealous of affection too. as well as extremely young children who haven't been taught. i'm pretty sure there are scientific studies that I've glanced at but I can't be bothered googling, but they did some study about how dogs got jealous when their owners pet a stuffed animal and didn't give them attention. admittedly that's separate from sex but I think being jealous of your partner giving affection, time, effort, etc. to someone else is wholly natural. if sex was no longer consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:23 PM
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if women had to orgasm in order to have kids, the world would be a very different, much better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:15 PM
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You're arguing different things. Not mutually incompatible. Yes, educated women initiate more divorces. However, educated women have the lowest divorce rate. aka OF THE VERY FEW DIVORCES that educated women have, they initiate most of them. Possibly because they have the ability to be pickier than their lower income counterparts (poor women).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:14 PM
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intelligent abusers, cheaters, and psychopaths are really, really good at lying and acting and actively working towards achieving their goals. I mean, they have to, to avoid being total social outcasts. stupid brutish ones end up in jail. I'm not going to say women are x or women aren't x, but good men also fall for repellent/evil/abusive/manipulative women all the time, so why can't the other way around be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:08 PM
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because it's kind of fuckin' gross yo. and also, you can't exactly advance your career unless you want to build a cleaning business (which is possible, but a whole different enterprise than going at it solo). nobody is going to give you health care for it and you can forget about 401k matching. that's why nobody fulltimes it unless they must (immigrants who don't speak english, etc) but also, those flaws don't matter if it's a side gig. kind of like babysitting or selling shit on etsy. it provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:04 PM
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So why do men love women? Or do they not, either? Are you gonna give the love is chemicals spiel? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:00 PM
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nope. unless it was immediate, like it only lasted a month or two. but if it was for a year, say, at that point you've already severed contact with your old contacts/clients, you're probably out of practice, times have changed. you'd have to start from the beginning. furthermore, most of the kinds of guys willing to pay that much money to 'own' a woman are not who you want in charge of your body or life. putting yourself in that situation would be stupid as fuck. yeah, it's harder work to have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:57 PM
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18k? Is she supposed to be paying her own rent or are you also providing housing, food, utilities etc? cuz that's fucking insane otherwise holy shit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:51 PM
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Lol that's funny. Me 'playing the field' was having a couple one night stands/hookups followed by 2 fwb situations before I realized that was 1000% not for me & since then I've been happily serially monogamous. You miiiiight just be a slut (I'm kidding, OP!) Seriously though, if you think a loving, sexually fulfilling LTR < sex with randoms, that LTR probably isn't for you. Ask yourself, why isn't it validating enough? What would your ideal look like? How can you get there? Because if you aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:42 PM
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But that's not "wanting more" than just sex if she has it...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 04:10 PM
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Also, men get to experience orgasms in 95% of sexual encounters. Women get it 70% of the time. If you weren't horny but your partner convinced you to fuck, then you didn't come at all and in fact it ended in 10 minutes with you feeling more sexually frustrated/horny/blue balled AT THE END than you ever did at the beginning... wouldn't that be kind of unpleasant? You can argue that it's women's fault for not communicating their needs clearly or something, but sex just ending when the guy comes pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 04:06 PM
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Some do. Just like some guys are apathetic towards sex and don't really need/want to masturbate more than once a couple months. They do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:55 PM
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Yeah, I had some really bad sex to begin with and just didn't seek it out after that for about two years? It wasn't traumatizing or anything but it felt kind of distasteful/uncomfortable, like I imagine a medical procedure might. Almost zero pleasure. I'm sure there have been bad experiences during sex for men too, don't get me wrong, but I imagine the ratio is something like 90% of sex for guys is mainly pleasurable, but only 70% of THAT SAME SEX perceived by women is as good - obviously just m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:53 PM
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I don't think this is true, you'd fuck a woman even if she was a pedo? Knowing that wouldn't gross you out majorly? I can't imagine a non-crazy girl willing to fuck a guy who she knew was into little kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:47 PM
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I think maybe there's a distinction between sex in a relationship and casual sex. Women definitely can want sex just for sex but eventually, most people want sex with someone they love who loves them back. So in that sense, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:41 PM
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That's a bit silly. You're saying that in a committed partnership, if a woman approaches her boyfriend wanting to fuck, she "actually wants more" from him than just sex? I'm... fairly sure that's not true. Women are fully capable of just being horny and wanting to get fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:39 PM
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The easy answer is because they don't need to. The slightly more complicated answer is because they want their faces/bodies validated - something they present to the world. Hence risque selfies or whatever instead of straight up genital shots. That honestly makes more sense to me - it makes sense to get more validation out of your body/face being seen as hot, than just... your vagina. Do men send dick pics because they can't get validation from face pics, or is it just because they want as many …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:30 PM
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The men who seemed less interested in my ability to support myself also tended to be looking for casual arrangements that I was not interested in. Yes, this is true. Men who don't care about if a woman can support herself are not actually likely to be fine with supporting her entirely, in reality they don't care because they have no plan to be a part of her life so her choices & ability or lack thereof have no impact on him. Similarly, a woman who doesn't care if the man is a gambling addict or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:26 PM
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Men may not explicitly care about what career a woman has but it certainly does change a woman's opportunities. A woman who is a doctor or nurse, for instance, is going to have access to a vastly different pool of men than a custodian. Just because the man "doesn't care" doesn't mean that it doesn't have an influence. Similarly, a woman who is wealthy in her own right is going to have much more access to wealthy men, even if the man "doesn't care" about her money. A woman's career/education leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:16 PM
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No wtf. Born in 1999 is under no metric millennial. even the most generous age range puts millennials at "1981-1996". there is an actual definition, it's not just "people younger than you who you think are ruining things and too lazy to buy a house"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:55 PM
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I aware, I meant 'after millennials' lol. I'm 23. I know the word choice was a bit off but wouldn't you consider boomers "pre-millennial' as in 'coming before millennial'? which means the ones after are post-. I can see why it could go either way but my word choice made more sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:50 PM
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Whether you're winning or losing either way basing it on N-count is a bit ridiculous. Would you say that the patriarch of a family who has only had one partner since getting married, who has the opportunity to cheat but doesn't, who has a faithful/loyal spouse and kids blah blah, is 'losing' or 'winning' compared to a 45 y/o pick up artist who is still trying to maximize N-count and sell his latest pdf to incels online? It's just a different game. I will say that I know plenty of old men who reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:45 PM
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Tbf spending, say, every Saturday and Sunday evening getting laid with a different person... it would 'only' take a decade to get to 1k.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 01:58 PM
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Someone in their early 20s could well be post-millennial. Millennials are in their 30s by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:22 PM
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How do people end up with an annoying spouse though? I UNDERSTAND in situations where one person cheats, or one person refuses to do chores/is less clean, or one person is financially irresponsible and a gambler, or one person becomes an addict. But how do you end up with someone you just don't much like? Isn't that what dating is supposed to filter out? Genuine question, I never want to end up in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:21 PM
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That really doesn't make sense for the wealthy. They want their kids to have the best opportunities, no? Their mother is 50% of that, maybe even more if she spends more time directly raising them and teaching them. If she's an uneducated, unskilled person, how exactly is that going to work out for creating or carrying on a legacy? What does she bring to the table? If you're only speaking of middle class people marrying blue collar workers... ehh, who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:13 PM
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Nothing is wrong with them, they are perfectly able to be 'good women' & wonderful people just like single mothers are definitely able to be good women and being obese doesn't make someone NOT a good woman. But the question is about how much they're desired as a relationship partner, and if a guy wants a woman who is fully available to him, then that might throw a wrench in the works (i.e. if they have to move for someone's career, the amount of time/focus she has for the relationship, her willi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:09 PM
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tbh make a female profile and scroll through looking at the guys. Judge them genuinely. Now, I would argue that on something like tinder MOST men are good at putting attractive pics now but back in the day... holy hell, the shitty selfies, the 5 selfies all the same with the camera looking up the nose, the incredibly poorly lit 'empty living room' selfies... guys did not know how to take pics. I really wish they'd shared the data set of pictures but obviously that would be fucked up because how …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:04 PM
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Fair, but I think if a guy is doing that then he's already given up on getting a woman to date him based on attraction, let's be honest. None of the 'sexpat' type men I've ever encountered are a catch back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:59 PM
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I don't think it's valid to bring different countries into it, if you can live for a month on $50 in some shithole obviously a dollar is valued differently there than the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:51 PM
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Honestly, guys got better at sex. Back in the day your casanova was a guy who women enjoyed fucking. Back in the day the idea of giving your wife an orgasm was a weird thing. It's not just that women weren't supposed to enjoy it, it's that the female orgasm wasn't even understood. I mean, the vibrator was literally invented for treating female 'hysteria'. Just imagine what it was like to live in a culture where you didn't know how to cum and your partner stopped sex before you got to cum, almost…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:44 PM
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If you think about it for a bit I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with guys getting sex dolls etc. The only problem is if they're going for sex slaves/prostitutes because that's highly unethical and a massive problem. But if it's dating the ordinary women of that country, as long as the women involved aren't coerced, how is it different from a rich guy leveraging his status to date a poor woman in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:38 PM
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The difference is money and education lol. Every class of humans, ever, through all of history, loves drugs. Some can just afford better drugs than others. But the truth is there's very little difference between their situations, just luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:34 PM
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Not chaste/prim/proper, but dating a nice man or woman who won't break her heart, finding a life partner (or partners if they're poly, who gives a shit) to grow old with, sure. I'm liberal as they come, don't believe in a god, don't give a shit about propriety but I still want my kids to find happiness and in my opinion life is easier as a solid, caring, stable family unit rather than going at it alone or with a series of flings. Can someone be happy without a partner? Sure. "Landing a husband" …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:15 PM
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I mean, the phenomenon is real. Men who start seeing their wife more as a motherly role blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:07 PM
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I would agree with this if "unwanted attention" is simply a male acquaintance asking her out, or compliments. In that case yes, it's a measure of the kinds of wanted interest she could get. But not if we're talking on the street; in my experience that's never really about desirability, guys who leer & catcall don't do it because they think they'll get a chance with a woman they're attracted to. At least as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:04 PM
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However, if you think about it, does the stereotypical man who catcalls women really have a 'bar' for who he'll catcall? Is it really "an attractive woman", or just "a feminine-presenting shape"? If a man is willing to catcall every woman who passes his way, that says absolutely nothing about how attractive she is, only that she looks like she might have a vagina. I would say if 'unwanted attention' is stuff like being asked on dates by people she's not attracted to, then you're right, it does i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:01 PM
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If you're 35+ then that's surprising but if you're in your 20s then... that's always been the case. I know it's wrong to say "oh they'll change their minds" because sometimes yeah, people don't and will never want kids... but frequently they do eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:55 PM
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Weirdly, it kind of makes sense that childless adult women earn more than men, because the market is competing for them (people don't want to hire mothers, but do want to hire women, there's not that discrimination w/fathers & other men). However as soon as they do have kids, that earning potential drops dramatically, whereas men who have kids don't face that. Also weirdly just looked it up and fathers earn more than childless men. Huh. I don't think that one separates based on the type of job t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 05:11 PM
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I think that on a large-scale generalization level, a lot of it is that the income inequality in a relationship is considered balanced out by other things that each partner brings to the table. This could be anything. Historically with the housewife/breadwinner relationship the tradeoff of earning potential for other things is obvious, but today's roles aren't anything so clear and are generally more muddled. There are some relationships when clearly one person is taking advantage of the other &…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:46 PM
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tbh I don't think that's 'having issues'. youth is prized/seen as beautiful no matter the gender. I KNOW that online dating statistic about how women look for guys their age and men look for 21 year olds, but both genders still like youth just look at pop culture. Adonis/Narcissus from history and myth, all the boy band or twilight shit with middle aged women fawning over them. I'm not saying women don't also find older men attractive because obviously they do, but youth == beautiful isn't just …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:40 PM
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Honestly, to be completely genuine... I just saw it was a big number and hit 'close' as quickly as possible. It says US $4,395.00 (Excl.Tax) for me. I realize that it's selling to corporations but still, dang.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:31 PM
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Actually, after some more googling, I think you're right. https://www.marieclaire.com/beauty/a21095810/body-hair-trends-standards-offensive/ Back in 2013, 95 percent of women from ages 16 to 24 removed their underarm hair and 92 percent shaved their legs, but those numbers dropped to 77 percent and 85 percent respectively in 2016, according to Mintel research conducted in the United Kingdom Note that this IS the UK which isn't the same as US beauty standards wise (also, look at France, armpit ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:25 PM
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From what I've found in modern dating environments women are willing to pay equally or more often, but still not willing to initiate/date younger/lead the romance. There's this idea that younger men are immature, unlikely to commit, bad lovers, whatever. So in that sense it is moving in a more egalitarian direction for money (that might just be in higher educated circles though) but I don't see how to 'reward' or incentivize women to date younger or ask men out. I strictly believe that people do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:20 PM
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In a 2009 study, the average woman shaves 12x per month. From some more googling 95% of adult women 16-24 shave their underarms, that seems like plenty. (the statistic does go down to like 77% if it's ages 16-64 but uh, duh?) I have to imagine that shaving underarms is the 'basic' thing. i.e. it would be more usual for someone to shave their underarms but nothing else, instead of something else but NOT their pits. Extreme feminists who don't shave at all, despite what reddit likes to say, aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:11 PM
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Maybe I'm just less risk averse because I haven't been burned yet? It just seems a bit over the top to avoid all relationships simply because you're worried it will end poorly with no indicators of such. There is inevitable pain, grief, sadness in life, but I just don't see how fixating on it helps. Like being worried about being mugged, or assaulted: Figure out what steps you can take to avoid having that be the likely outcome, minimize risk to the point you're comfortable with it, recognize if…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 10:05 PM
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My 11 month old puppy has literally had that life. is he fixed? b/c if so, I have some bad news...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:24 PM
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actually agree with you in this case. I don't understand what these men feel like they deserve and aren't getting. If you don't want to marry someone who is 'settling down', don't? If your actual desire as a mediocre person is to marry a hot 20 year old who sees you as her #1 and only option, will never cheat on you, services you 24/7, stays loyal and true, and is ok with you dating others while she acts the housewife part and pops out babies... then good fucking luck, but don't complain if it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:15 PM
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yeah of course. it is fucked up because it's true, it's not their fault. it's not a child's fault if they are abused as a kid and that emotionally stunts them, in fact, they deserve all the therapy/psychiatric help they need... but it might make them a poor choice of partner. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with not wanting to date someone with that much baggage. does it suck? yes. of course. it's fucking terrible. but they don't 'deserve' to be assigned a partner just because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:12 PM
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no, but look at the 60% vs 15% stats of women thinking their last sexual experience would lead to a relationship vs men thinking the same. they don't prefer the "temporary sexual access" they truly believe it's not temporary & will lead to more. I actually think that stat rings true. About 40% genuinely just want hookups and are the 'having fun' type, 60% think they can get more out of the guy than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:07 PM
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if you feel like you're giving something up by committing to a woman, then you shouldn't do it. it should not feel like you're sacrificing shit, if it does, she isn't worth it. being monogamous with someone should only be done if it is better than all your alternatives, otherwise, do the fucking alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:03 PM
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The guy you're replying to cheated on his ex wife and now just writes on ppd saying everyone cheats and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar lol. I would take it with a grain of salt. Not everyone cheats. My grandparents, my parents, etc. have had decades long relationships with no cheating (believe me, they aren't shy about dishing dirt, I'd have heard), yeah it happens, some people are shitty, but seeing the happiness they've found with one another? I know there's decent human beings out ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:58 PM
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hell of a statement. Maybe it'd be irrational if you were the only conscious person. But it's quite rational in general because there are other actors involved who all want the best outcome for themselves. Sure, polygamy might work in specific cases, but the majority of time, the best way for everyone to have as many of their needs/wants met as possible is pairing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:53 PM
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Ahhh okay. Yeah agreed, on average cleanliness standards have gone up. I also don't think women shave less today tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:42 PM
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honestly it happens, stress will affect libido pretty hugely. don't worry, it's not permanent. it's just a symptom. once you start being more active again/eating better & the project is less stressful you should notice a distinct difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:39 PM
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hmm from what you say I really don't think you'd have an issue getting ONS in a big enough city. I see ugly dudes get laid all the time (college town though).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:28 PM
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not OP but I would agree that weak chins are universally disliked (both in men/women) I genuinely don't think anyone actually prefers a weak chin to a normal one, that would be an unusual preference. However I don't see much difference between a 'normal' chin and some ridiculous greek god jawline. It's one of those things where there is a 'minimum' to be attractive, but if you exceed it, most people aren't gonna be that much more attracted by it. I do not prefer buff guys. My personal preference…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:23 PM
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No lmao. Who the fuck shaves their ass when they aren't getting sex unless they genuinely prefer the feeling in which case, why does it have anything to do with sex? miss me with that spiky bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:21 PM
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??? all I'm saying is the baseline 'goal' for men is to be strong and independent and always has been, whereas women were always considered 'weak and dependent' and 'needed a man' and only in recent decades have changed to be allowed to provide for themselves without a husband. Nothing to do with privilege unless you think being able to provide for yourself with a job is privilege, in which case sure, men have that privilege and now women do too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 09:43 PM
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Go make a fake Tinder with a hot guy's pictures and see how women behave this is still an incredibly distorted pool of people though, arguably it would be weird if women already on tinder weren't massively inclined to go for the hottest guy available? they're already there to get laid, why is it surprising that the hot guy gets the most picks? I'd say you're more likely to get real results if he tries to hit on women who aren't actively looking to get laid. Of course it's a much more difficult e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:34 PM
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This guy is saying he wants casual sex NOT relationships, that's literally the opposite of 'truly loved and desired'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:23 PM
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I just can’t get casual sex which arguably matters more. This is very much a 'grass is greener' sentiment lol. Plenty of incels would kill to be in your shoes. Maybe realize that as far as it goes, you are nowhere near the bottom of the heap... probably above average even if you can get compatible relationships (not based on $$) any time you want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:21 PM
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Where are you getting this "masculinity is at an all time low" idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:04 PM
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The implication of that phrase is that historically, women were "weak dependents who needed men" (to survive/provide). There's no equivalent for men for a pretty obvious reason: there's no equivalent for that implication. There's no point in an empowering phrase if you don't have something to be uplifted 'from'. A man who is "strong, independent, and doesn't need anybody" is just a stereotypical man - that's just the baseline. So technically, there is 'an equivalent' (practically the same phrase…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:58 PM
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Yes, agreed with this. The hottest guys do not have scarcity mentality. The only cases I've seen where an extremely attractive guy also fucks around a lot is in 'party culture' places (where everyone does the same) or if they were previously unattractive and went through an ugly duckling transformation (still holding on to their previous scarcity mentality).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:24 PM
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It just kind of ended there. I hit her up recently, in not so many words she told me to 'fuck off' lol. These are probably related tbh, she wanted some kind of show of emotional desire/investment on your part and wised up to the fact that it was really just sex
/r/TheRedPill28/03/19 07:17 PM
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Yeah, that really fucking sucks. I have a friend in a similar boat who I wish I could help out but... like... he just isn't into the nice, admittedly somewhat bland, kind women who I've tried to introduce him to. It's either "crazy hot bitch who will set fire to my car when we break up" or nada. Yeah there are a lot of fish in the sea, but y'all keep trying to date sharks. I have no problem with that, just when people then go on to say "they're all sharks" - nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:37 PM
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I agree with this. While 'the wall' exists for everyone (including men) if we're just talking about 'sexual value' depreciating, it's only truly obvious in specific cases. I think red pill ideology and such sweeps with far too wide a brush. Some women actually do have MORE sex after 30, of the ones I know they had one monogamous relationship from like 17-27, the relationship ended because it turns out high school sweethearts grow apart (surprise!) and suddenly start doing the stereotypical findi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:00 PM
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I can't really name you all that many good looking old black women. tbh if you don't interact with a lot of middle+ class black people IRL then this anecdotal lack of evidence doesn't really matter. I specify class because poor people everywhere age poorly. I could give you examples of celebrities but you could just say that being rich buys the ability to appear youthful, which is completely true. So I don't know how to argue this except doing that... so with a grain of salt - Halle Berry, angel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:50 PM
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Wait but this scenario makes no sense, because most older women don't want to get married to much younger men anyway. A 30 year old woman (USUALLY) is not seeking out a 20 year old fuckbuddy to put a ring on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:40 PM
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Ehhhh. These days most people are more likely to say yeah, it's real, but being sexually attractive to the most men possible isn't the normal goal for 'post-wall' aged women anyway. i.e. a 60 year old grandmother doesn't give a fuck if you want to fuck her. So if it only really applies to the narrow segment of 30-40 year old women who can't get a relationship and want one... then sure, but they'd be desperate and sad even if they weren't aging too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:39 PM
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marijuana honestly all the potheads that I know are extremely chill/kind/sweet/harmless... but they're also lazy as fuck. There definitely should be a graph somewhere that's lazy/bitchy. Better by far than hot/crazy IMO and more realistic. The sweet spot is that place where they're relatively hard working, but not too bitchy. If they're not bitchy but don't do anything, that kinda sucks. If they're extremely bitchy and don't do anything, that really sucks. If they're extremely hard working and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:35 PM
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not really black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:31 PM
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Married men do seem more reliable than single men. Just look at professional politicians over the age of 35 or so. Basically not a single one without the standard wife/2.5 kids/family/'Christian values'. This isn't just pressure from women, it's pressure from society to conform. If you don't conform, that makes you threatening. Same thing where gay guys feel pressure to marry beards. It's not exclusive to you, for sure. I think part of it is that single men are looked at as always 'on the prowl'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:03 PM
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Aren't incels who claim it's not involuntary just... celibate people though? Why do they need to be mgtow?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:56 PM
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There absolutely are, but they don't need the subreddit or a group to align themselves with. Those men have gone their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:55 PM
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To be fair, it is entirely possible that their relationships with women are toxic, addictive, and damaging. Some people simply can't get in healthy relationships. Whether because of the pattern of attraction, their attachment disorders, or they're just drawn to the 'passion' which is actually abusive. We all know the one guy who just keeps trying to make a girlfriend out of a ho, or the one girl who keeps bringing home absolute garbage. It's really no wonder when they decide it must be the entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:47 PM
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not op of the comments, but yeah that's not what I want. I don't want sex to be totally contingent on how ecstatic I am in that moment. Just because I'm not having orgasms doesn't mean it's not fun. If sex stopped every time when I realized I wasn't going to orgasm that session, I would be much more frustrated and feel the pressure to 'act'. Fortunately I've found a partner who so far understands that hey, sex is fun and should be low pressure, and I haven't felt pressured by him in that way - w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:32 PM
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This just seems incorrect though. Even young men at 13 or 14 find 17+ year old women more attractive than their own age group. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b6gecm/is_ephebophilia_the_reason_grown_men_shit_on_male/ejkhppl/ So are you saying that as the guys get older, the age group they're attracted to gets younger? Because that's super fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:12 PM
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they don't need to ensure a "high-quality" men anymore, sad but true. Well, I wouldn't say that's true. It's just that the definition of 'high quality' is no longer necessarily synonymous with breadwinner of the household. However, women still want 'high quality' men - it's just that they can now have more variation between women about what they consider high quality. e.g. decades ago every woman might be forced by circumstances to have wealth/earning potential as a big factor in how they judge …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:59 PM
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Well yeah obviously. What I'm saying is that "APBALT" doesn't make any sense to hold onto. & if that's the case, it's dumb to say "well up until their literal deathbed, APBALT". at some point you have to accept that trust has been earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:24 PM
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OK, what if you had a pitbull for 15 years from puppy to old age and it died, and in all the time you had it it was the perfect dog. Would it still be APBALT? Just because "well it COULD have bitten someone, it didn't but it could've, you never should've let your guard down, you never know, maybe it secretly wanted to bite people all along, it could've done it."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:43 PM
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It also depends on where you are looking for them. Look, I'll be honest, sure some people find 'true love' off tinder and get married to their one night stands. Some people. But if your goal is to fuck around, do not be surprised if the people you fuck around with are also fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:29 PM
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From your mid-20's, your value as a potential mate only goes down. Doesn't really make sense unless you're not scaling the man's age to match. Imagine a 40 year old man looking for a wife/mother of children/partner, do you really imagine that they'll consider a 20 year old as better-rated than a 30 year old? I would consider more aspects than pure physical attractiveness important to "potential mate". Or by 'mate' do you merely mean 'fuckability'? In that case, I'd argue that's not really a trag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:09 PM
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Men really don't age that well. Not to be overly crude but no woman really longs to be fucked by, well, wrinkly/saggy genitals. Then again, if you leave opened wine too long it turns into vinegar, so the metaphor still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:06 PM
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Honestly, I looked it up and I can't find any stats claiming that there's a good percentage of young women who are purposefully into much older men. Women DO tend to be into slightly (3-7 years) older men but this could be attributed to men maturing later. The whole idea that there are masses of 20 year olds willing to date a 50 year old exec is a bit silly because most 50 year olds are not wealthy executives, and that's an important part of the puzzle piece - take away that, leave the man, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 05:07 PM
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yes, but are they the kind of men that CEO would want to date? Old wealthy guys get their pick, I'd wager the female version would... not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 05:05 PM
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Women are more likely to be college graduates than men as of 2017 or so. If that trend continues, then BY NECESSITY more higher-earning women will be with lower-earning men. It'll balance itself out. It's anyone's guess how. The pessimistic might say that it'll mean more female infidelity, but there's already a gender gap in infidelity leaning towards men being 15% more likely to cheat or something similar, so there's... quite a lot of room for that pendulum to swing back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 05:01 PM
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I think that's much too general though - as they age? 30? 40? 50? I would argue that most 45+ year old men I meet are definitely not higher SMV than they were at 30. I do think that men peak 'later', but the curve still follows roughly the same shape. It's sort of hard to say though, because maybe if the 45+ year old men I met were still trying to get laid by random women every weekend they'd be far more attentive to appearance... or maybe they'd just come across even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:56 PM
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I just feel like poking a hole in this but, feasibly, an extremely unhealthy/obese/bedridden 20 year old woman could get in shape and morph into a more attractive older woman. I mean, if you start from a really bad place, you can work your way up. Definitely agreed generally though, everything else being equal. Obviously it's uncomfortable for women to think about because nobody wants to believe that "it's all downhill from here". Perhaps comfortingly, though, in old(er) age it's all downhill fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:46 PM
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Would them being dead more than hardly affect you? It's a two way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:25 PM
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Yes, but the woman actually doesn't want to. So they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:25 PM
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I believe that goldilocks zone is for all marriages, not specifically 'first' marriages. Also, it only applies for the first 5 years and the most popular age for people to get divorced is in their mid 40s (after the kids go to college, probably) It makes especial sense because if you're getting married at an older age you're probably (somewhat) likely to have been married already in the past. late FIRST marriages (when it's the first for both) have extremely low rates of divorce. if it's a secon…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:44 PM
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Yeah, look at islam... they're doing so well.......
/r/TheRedPill05/10/18 02:10 PM
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Well in that case your scale is not everyone else's scale lol I get what you're saying though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:43 PM
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nah everyone has value. even if it's not very much. or in the negatives...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:42 PM
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I think tons of women agree that they like confidence and a bit of a 'bad boy' demeanor, there's a reason that's a trope, but they do want you to be kind... to them. That's the difference, they love being the one who tamed the beast. Just look at disney movies for what their dream is. Unfortunately in real life most beasts aren't actually princes & most people who are assholes to others will also be assholes to their loved ones in time, a lesson everyone has to learn individually so I guess I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:20 PM
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And then the best ones on paper turn out to be lying about their qualifications. Actually a pretty good metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:14 PM
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yeah but finding something long term is hard for everyone. also it's literally math that it has to be the same ratio for men AND women in the monogamous hetero segment of society because it's 1:1, so it can't be any harder for men to find a LTR than women because any time a man does, by definition, so does the woman in the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:13 PM
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But you're just shooting yourself in the foot, if you lie about your personality or whatever and she ends up absolutely perfect in your opinion, and then you reveal the truth, she's now fallen for a fake, the relationship implodes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:11 PM
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Good women say they want a kind a compasionate man, and they are sincere in saying that, but they end up being attracted to the asshole you have a point here but I think it's different from what you're trying to say. men also want kind/compassionate partners (at least I assume so, I imagine most men don't want an ice queen who is cruel to them) but also end up in abusive relationships with vile women who (to quote the stereotypical story) divorce rape them, take the kids and money etc sometimes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:04 PM
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"Trying to change women" is completely useless and ends in heartbreak. trying to change ANYONE is completely useless. all you can do is change the one thing you have control over: yourself and your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:59 PM
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1-2s are like, actually deformed people, yo. I just feel bad for them. I think your scale is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:58 PM
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attention is cheap though, that doesn't translate into real value
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:56 PM
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the "im so nerdy teehee" girls inserting themselves into some gay ass DnD get together despite not really caring about the game or knowing how to play it. I find it hard to believe that an attractive single girl would choose to go be hit on by unattractive/nerdy d&d players while participating in an activity she has zero interest in. There are so many other places she could go. Most of the cases like yours I've seen are where they're actively dating a player so they try to make it a couples acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:52 PM
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Underrated advice. Good dress sense makes a fucking world of difference. Not so much for girls because they're all expected to dress decently but going from stained tshirt/raggedy pants -> nice dress shirt, fitted jeans is AT MINIMUM +3 points ez. Some people are just ugly though and ain't nothing fixing that. Most incels aren't that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:47 PM
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let's be real, white men were the enemy for a long fucking time just by virtue of being the winners (and all the shit that they did to get there - any other group would've done the same shit and been just as hated, but history is what it is). (rich) white men will only stop being the enemy when they also stop being in charge. which will probably happen eventually, and shit will cycle around until the next group gets hated/overthrown/whatever. it's not inherent to 'whiteness' or 'maleness' it's j…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:38 PM
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i've known some boring individual women but also some really interesting ones. the interesting ones don't shit-talk men or women. it's always the most bland who are trying to find someone to look down on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:35 PM
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might actually be an interesting talking point but I think it just goes back to women are more average so there's less psychopaths but also less geniuses, no hitler but also no... uh... whatever the antithesis of hitler would be. it's not a bad thing to have a thinner bell curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:29 PM
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Also if you can't be vile or cruel, you are just a Nice Guy. Period. If you lack that capacity to bite, you have no other recourse but to be inoffensive and castrated. Which if this is you, don't think it's the end of the world. It's far better than being vile/cruel AND not being competent, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:24 PM
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Yeah sorry I more meant in the context of feminism like from OP, so it's hard to draw that comparison (feminism is like communism? ehhh)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:22 PM
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If they're active, courageous, steady, intelligent, communicative, able to create and carry out plans, etc... Then the only reasons they aren't able to get laid is probably some major physical flaws to the point of disability, or some really shitty personalities. Do you even realize what a tiny subset of this population that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:16 PM
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It's a pretty good measure of how they fall within societal norms, which is one metric among many, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:12 PM
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Or men to sleep with less women, thereby increasing the value of men in general. Look, the whole reason dick isn't highly valued is because guys don't treat it like it is. It's not because 'low status' women are just so good at convincing 'high status' guys to give it up, it's because those guys are willing to have sex with pretty much anyone, it says nothing about status. You can't have it both ways where guys sleep with whoever they want as much as possible and it's socially accepted, but wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:03 PM
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any social movement is a 'luxury'. if we revert back to hunter gatherer levels of civilization, absolutely, our 'in-groups' will drastically shrink. not that we will immediately become cave men hitting each other with rocks and raping others, but it will be a matter of the strong leading the weak directly. feminism is basically a power struggle. civilization allows the currently weak to improve their lot in life by becoming stronger in other aspects - intelligence is no longer less useful than r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:54 PM
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Vindication of the Rights of Woman was published in 1792 feminism has been going on for ages
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:43 PM
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Some stuff is still scarce though. Also, human relationships are probably going to be some lingering artifacts of humanity. I don't see a "post-biological" society any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:42 PM
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sorry in advance this metaphor just popped into my head It's like buying vs grinding for something in a game. On the one hand, if you want to skip playing the actual game and just get the stuff, yeah buy them, but that way you don't really get better at the game. But if you don't want to pay money and you actually enjoy playing the game/the grind/improvement, then why would you do the former? Both are valid methods. Some games push one over the other, just like some lifestyles might work better …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:10 PM
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yeah that's totally fair, it is more of an older millennial thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:00 PM
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130 IQ autists Not necessarily competent. They might be extremely intelligent in some regards but that doesn't make them a competent functional adult in society who can get shit done
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 04:51 PM
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This is not true, sex for me in every relationship has only gotten better with time because we get more familiar with each other's bodies and just are straight-up better at it with more experience. I guess how good sex is isn't necessarily the same as base level attraction, but I know I wanted more of it the better it got, so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 04:22 PM
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Uh... what? No. Compatibility entails so much more than that. Anything from political views to desire for children or not to styles of discussion/argument to senses of humor, taste, religion or lack thereof, etc. If you don't care about any of that, you don't really want an LTR, you just want someone to fuck for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 04:20 PM
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Emotion is a part of life, people trying to make relationships out to be some logical equation where x + y = satisfaction are bound to fail eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 04:19 PM
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If a guy continues to try to get with me even if I have a boyfriend, then I would suspect he'd be willing to cheat (since he's willing to be an accessory to cheating) and he's out. "I have a boyfriend" just means no, unless the girl in question is okay with being thought of as a cheater? Which is plausible, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 04:09 PM
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Probably because that's their social group. Also, probably you think differently because your social group is different. People forget that they only know a tiny slice of everyone and they extrapolate to everything. It's so dumb. Classic case of the blind people trying to describe an elephant where each person has one part.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 04:05 PM
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Guys who can't get laid by the people they want, claiming to be the majority. Honestly I'd believe that dissatisfaction is rising b/c it's all about perception. People didn't have so many perceived options before, man or woman. And now they do but they can't get the cream of the crop and it must be society's fault they don't have a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 03:59 PM
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I mean let's be honest it sounds like she was a teenager lol. Someone changing from 18-25 is not red pill/blue pill it's literally just growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 03:57 PM
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Forget normal, I dated bullied ostracized nerds who still acted like that. I'm just gonna say it - it might not be their fault that they don't know how to treat other human beings (men and women included) but it's their god damn responsibility to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 03:52 PM
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I think people with insecurity/anxiety or who hate parts of themselves blame it on their 'beta' traits when it's really not that at all. You can be beta and confident. Usually it's something else that therapy could really help with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 03:48 PM
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yeah tbh trp tries to make it all out to be some 'simple methods to success' when really steps 1 to infinity are just "get out of your head, stop worrying/overthinking, and just do things" which, unfortunately, many of us are shit at executing. But one step at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 03:47 PM
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Sorry, my other comment got way out of hand. Haha. I think I've been visiting reddit too much and dealing with some existential crisis of my own. Didn't need to shovel the shit out in the open. Anyways, it's all just the rantings of a silly hormone-addled woman who can't understand the human condition, am I right? You know, the sad thing is I almost get the allure of wanting to be told what to do and relying on everyone else and whatever. It must be easier. But that's just not who I am. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 03:32 PM
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ANother example: Mid level manager for a federal govt agency. Relies on men to provide her with her job, to train and supervise her, relies on male taxpayers to pay her salary, and relies on male coworkers to cover her fuckups. And men more competent than her do her job, because she's unable to do it competently. Ok this is a bit of a stretch though. Saying "relies on male taxpayers to pay her salary" as "women rely on men" is a far cry from the first example you gave which I agree with. Also th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:52 PM
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I think of it like any self help. Some of it works, some of it doesn't, and you have to be in the right mental space to really believe it/use it anyways. If it doesn't work for you and you try to force it, you end up living a deception. People can't 'make' themselves believe stuff they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:47 PM
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I think that what people want changes, and that's normal. I think that TRP tries to pump it out like a self help factory though and that's not going to work long term for most people. Just like women reading self help/pop psychology aren't magically going to turn into better, happier people. TRP works for some people who are naturally inclined to fit its bounds and at ease with the tools, but for others it feels forced - unnatural. And for those people, keeping up the 'show' for decades is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:45 PM
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Men need to learn how to tease their women. Make her wait for it, work for it, but never make her feel unwanted. She should feel like you want to fuck her, but can't. Don't try to fuck her at home. Instead take her to a public place where sex is logistically impossible, and get her all turned on. She'll be the one jumping your bones when you get home. Yeah, actually, this would work 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:38 PM
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It's not like a frequent topic of conversation, like they aren't gonna be having episode discussions lmao, it's more just offhand references once in a while that you wouldn't get if you're not familiar with it. like you might reference a tv show, you're not going to go "wow this is a good place to mention sex and the city, episode six, where x happens". same as people might reference seinfeld or community or parks & rec or how I met your mother or whatever sitcom of the day it is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:34 PM
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Porn doesn't change though. People do (sometimes to their detriment). Sex does. If you crave variety with other partners, maybe you're not meant to be monogamous. But if you crave variety with the same partner, that's workable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:31 PM
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Yeah this is kind of the elephant in the room on all those subreddits. Like... the fact that you're there looking for help is a bit of an indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:20 PM
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If she's single at 31, it means she's spent like a decade and a half unable to find a guy good enough. She's either aiming too high or has issues. Plenty are just out of a LTR though. That might have its own issues but a LOT of people break up around the 30 mark from their college bf/gf or whatever because they've grown apart. I'd argue that's more likely than she's just been single her whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 05:01 PM
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Of course selection itself is natural, but what is selected for is cultural for the most part. That is, you could say that the 'natural' selectiveness is for traits like good health, whereas the 'cultural' one might be skin color. It's hard to separate them, especially when some people try to mix them up (i.e. racists claiming that being selective for one race is 'natural' because that race is fundamentally better - that's an obvious one).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:49 PM
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actually I agree with you I think what they're talking about is first love nostalgia happens to guys too. frankly I think it's way more widespread than most people think (to have lingering desire/nostalgia for a 'first love' even years and years later, b/c back then you were naive enough to totally believe it before the illusion shattered) whereas 'alpha widowing' can happen regardless of whether or not it was her first relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:45 PM
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Honestly? you don't even sound like you enjoy sex with women, it sounds more like you don't like women. So I'll concede that you're right, maybe that's the attitude those guys take into the bedroom, it's nothing to do with the influence of porn
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:40 PM
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ehhh I've met plenty of middle aged really brilliant people at work who are still completely hopeless in social situations. then again I'm in tech so maybe they just never had to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:36 PM
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Call for references lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:35 PM
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I think attitude towards sex is something that factors into mutual attractiveness. I think having a partner count that high means something about the person and I'd want to find out what, or if it's from mood/mental disorders or something. But I'd never put a hard limit bc it's very case by case. Like, "it has to be under 10" is silly, so if it's 11 suddenly she's out no matter what? But "it has to be under 2000" is silly for a different reason (what if it's 1999? that suddenly makes it okay? or…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:33 PM
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Nobody wants to marry someone who everyone else thinks is a slut. Everyone wants their 'personal slut'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:27 PM
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Who the fuck said anything about anal? I don't even think porn is all bad. Reread my comment and maybe address that instead. I'm clearly saying that porn gives inexperienced guys ideas about sex that are just wrong, and if they use those ideas when they have sex, their partners won't have a good time, thus they think they don't like sex. You seem to have a weird fixation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:22 PM
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Yeah, men do cajole, insist, and demand it, and sometimes try to sneakily have anal (as if it's not noticeable LOL). You are literally trying to speak about this w/ zero personal knowledge and everyone here is trying to tell you otherwise. There are many, many self-absorbed men out there having terrible sex and giving women the impression that all sex is bad. It's GETTING BETTER which is why (imo) as more women have casual sex expectations rise, but through history there's been a pervasive idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:16 PM
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The vast majority of men don't behave in this way. how many men have you slept with to tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:10 PM
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not a great comparison because if you think about it alcohol is kind of completely terrible. I mean, think about all the drunk drivers, alcohol poisoning, addiction, alcoholics etc... even comparatively minor effects like toxicity, liver issues, or if you're Asian, literally cancer (sometimes). And then the benefits of alcohol... easier socializing? destressing? heart benefits if it's one glass of red wine a week or some shit? If alcohol vanished from the planet today, would it be a net benefit?…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 04:07 PM
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No it's literally sex acts. The stuff shown in porn is usually (in my experience) not that enjoyable to women, at least not straight out of the gate (if they're into bdsm that's one thing). If inexperienced guys start out randomly choking/slapping around/humiliating women in the bedroom because they think that's how it 'should' be it is far, far more likely that she's going to be sex averse. Sex is about two people, and if guys keep acting like it's purely for their pleasure, 'good' women are go…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 03:58 PM
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Welp, nevermind. That's fucked up.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 09:57 PM
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Nothing wrong with that. The longer people take to date around and find the partner to marry the more likely it is that they waited for the best match (or are desperate enough that it seems like one). Highest divorce rates among people who got married under 25 for a reason... the one potential problem is people having kids later and later means kids whose parents will be dying earlier in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 08:36 PM
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there are a lot of people participating in hookup culture and racking up high n-counts, but there are also a lot of incels permanently stuck at 0 bringing the average down. Doesn't make sense if the average sex partners are for both men and women, or can I not math?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 08:32 PM
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The point is what happens when one day you wake up and you're 50 and actually want a fulfilling relationship but have had zero practice at staying with someone for longer than a year at a time. Sure, it's a business approach. But if you don't take any risks, you're not going to reap any rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 08:30 PM
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Isn't that true of men as well, as a whole? It's just easier to see differently if you are a man (bc you know yourself as an individual). We're all water shaped by the glass. It's not like women have less free will than men, that's a dumb-ass hypothesis.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 08:18 PM
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That's... not even really bad as far as it goes. I mean, that was it? Saying you're into anal isn't even close to being a bad thing lmfao. Maybe slightly weird/embarrassing but she could've accused you of abuse/assault or some shit
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 08:00 PM
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I totally agree with you. Other people in this sub act like a relationship with someone should be like a relationship with a dog where you literally train them to do your bidding - that's exhausting and fucked up anyways. If you're totally happy with yourself, then you can be happy with someone else however they are; if they fail, so be it, it's not your problem.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 07:53 PM
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Yeah I actually think this post would be the exact same ungendered. The key to happiness for women is the same, women also become unhappy because they put expectations on men. We would all be happier people if we took responsibility for ourselves first. This isn't red pill, this is just truth.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 07:50 PM
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Even if all goes well for years and years, the 'winning' ending is one person dies and leaves the other person alone (and probably old at this point). So yeah, enjoy it while it lasts.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 07:49 PM
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tbh I've found TRP content to be pretty accurate for short term relationships, new relationships, dating advice. but as soon as you get into the territory of a LTR it all breaks down, probably partly because some of the people creating content haven't been in any (by choice or not), but partly because by that point it's impossible to generalize your personal relationship.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 07:34 PM
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But couldn't the argument be made that ordinary men have the same hardwired psychology as abhorrent men and will act in accordance with the various violent psychopaths who measurably skew male? The one difference I can think of is that men who are 'off' enough are actually determined to be a danger to society and locked up (serial killers and what have you) whereas women who deviate from the norm tend not to be (unless VERY extreme; I think there are maybe 3-4 famous female serial killers and do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 06:34 PM
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I think people have issues with this because when you use the term 'attracted'/'attractive' the first thought is physical appearance, and that's definitely not the case. I would agree that women 'aim up', but what does that actually mean? Do you mean socially, class-wise? Marriage definitely offers women more social mobility than men. Is it just a matter of prioritizing different things? If men, tomorrow, collectively started only trying to "date up", I wonder what would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 06:12 PM
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