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Lol, holding people responsible is easy if they don't have a lot of socioeconomic influence and they're not high on the hierarchy. It's people w/ crazy amounts of power, cultural influence, and money who get away with everything and aren't held responsible. Not the average woman. The average woman is living just a shitty a life, with similar responsibilities, as the average man. In some ways shittier, society holds women responsible for being raped and getting pregnant in a conservative state. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:19 PM
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It depends on the crime. Women get longer sentences for violent crime and killing their partners, even in self defense. if you read the study, the "women are wonderful" effect study basically said women are perceived as more safe and less dangerous/violent. Which is statistically the case, and has basically little benefit to us women. That makes us an easier target to mug or push around, what's the benefit to being perceived as less dangerous or powerful? besides someone being less likely to avo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:11 PM
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Pretty intentional ignoring of what kind of criticism those people get and why. Because many of those men complaining are insulting women lol. If you complain and all your toxic manosphere woman hate comes out, you're going to be criticized for it. If you insult others, you get insulted. If you don't, you won't be. How often do normal, well socialized guys who complain about dating but aren't throwing snide jabs at women and dogwhistling incel rhetoric get cancelled? I've never seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:30 AM
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It's wild to say that while falsely accusing ME of your strawman feminist fantasies to suit your narrative. If you don't want to continue the conversation based on actual reasoning, just say so. Because this reads like a complete tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:36 AM
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Do you have an issue with "believe victims" as well? or "eat the rich"? or "support Palestine"? or "love your neighbor"? how horrible, so they want everyone who accuses first to avoid due process and for everyone to think they've "proven" it. clearly you support Hamas if you support Palestine, and cannibalizing rich people is so wrong. And that preacher didn't prove your specific neighbor is deserving of love. I have a feeling your literal translation standard only kicks in when it's feminism an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:23 AM
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More feminist than ever? Are you sure you don't mean, more misogynistic and woman hating than ever? The incels won the culture war there extremely successfully regardless, it's globalization and industrialization that caused birth rates to fall. I don't think feminism or misogyny have much of an effect on birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:29 AM
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I agree on most of your points, except Korean feminism. As a chinese person, I've talked to korean americans about this and Korean women experience much more misogyny in their culture than mine (currently, don't know about historically). Americans might not know this, but Korea is a heavily misogynistic culture where women are pushed into servile traditional gender roles and face a lot of gendered discrimination, misogynistic attitudes, domestic and sexual violence. Incels have already won there…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:09 AM
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Yes, I agree they mean the thing intended by the person(s) who said it. They don't mean the thing interpreted by an angry hater with a grudge against a specific movement, which is usually exaggerations and strawmen used to paint the entire movement in a negative light. PPD attacks feminism in this way constantly, and I'm sick of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:08 AM
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that's only if you intentionally take a vague statement way too far and extrapolate extreme assumptions from it. When I hear "believe women", I don't hear "only believe women" or "always believe women over men", I hear "be mindful of double standards, anti-women biases and any particular motivations to silence a particular victim". "black lives matter" does not mean white lives don't matter, or that someone only cares about black lives, or black lives matter more than white lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:33 AM
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No, i'm willing to bet many guys who say that are lying. it's part of their gaslighting to gain sympathy. Or they say it, but their definition of "fine with" is kinda worthless to women when they say "fine with their looksmatch" a lot of them mean "okay with wasting her time until someone hotter comes along" or "good placeholder they'll half ass effort with, but will have zero actual respect, empathy, or emotional attachment for, will continue msging girls on OF or pining for/following insta inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:59 PM
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do you think men are any different? They might be even worse than the women you complain about. the male acquaintances I have are all messaging and chasing after the same pretty e-girls or twitch streamers or dating app catfish to tells them to sign up for some crypto scam website. You can do whatever you want to them, steal, hurt them, play with their feelings and if you're pretty they'll let you do it When I see them and the way they act, I'm just not moved by PPD men complaining about "women …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:45 PM
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every single interest that I have thats male dominated, we get shit on and harassed so often that we form womens only groups. Even in posts to justify not pushing out women, it's all about what guys can gain from it plus the typical dogwhistling. But its whatever, wanting better than that is kinda pointless. some of what you said I agreed with. every silver lining has a cloud lol just talking to the other girl here bc I assumed she could relate, not trying to address this to the guys at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:14 AM
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just pointing out why he said it and why guys usually say it, doesn't mean someone's offended. I'm really not lol. what is it, does anyone really care when you hear guys say this for the 10000th time? it's hard to really care anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:33 AM
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How else are other men supposed to know he's "cool"? needs to signal some casual disregard towards the ladies to be one of the "bros". best flex for a guy is to show disrespect towards women. other guys won't respect him otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:59 AM
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after all the inconsistencies about lying and weird term redefinitions and imagining the other side was "pump and dumped" and repeating "why are you mad", it's time to clutch pearls about "good faith" debate. typical don't worry, I'm not mad, I'm not even disappointed. bc typical
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:17 AM
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That was the definition all along LMAO. pump and dump requires lying. One second you screech about honesty and accountability, the other second, you're like "i hope these women were lied to!! hope they suffered!!!" lol. there's no consistency other than you like the idea of punching down at women and you'll even use your imagination to do it. Again, if it makes you feel better, I was real hurt and real sad when real totally real men used my body like a fleshlight and lied to me. fcking weirdo yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:03 AM
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you gonna address your redefining of pump and dumping? and all the actual points? Nah, this is the point where the RP guy just starts ad hominem attacking people. Classic If it makes you feel better, imagine whatever you like about me. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:47 PM
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The definition of "pump and dump" is lying about wanting a relationship and fucking. idk why you're STILL redefining and lying for the sake of a stupid internet argument. the dishonesty comes from the man lying about wanting a relationship, not on the woman. I'm sorry that being honest with yourself and taking accountability hurts YOUR feelings and you feel the need to misrepresent the argument, but this is a thing women deal with our entire lives /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:41 PM
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Yeah. And we don't do this. women don't tend to write posts like, "I totally gaslit and lied to this guy I pretended to care about, and then pushed his boundaries sexually and made him cry, he felt so used lol. well actually, I didn't really but i want to pretend I did to seem cool to you. It's just men amirite, kind of a lower life form, fair game haha. males who like hot women deserve it anyway. Fistbump me sis"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:38 PM
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A FWB who catches feelings and then the two of you discuss, and then respectfully part ways, is not a "pump and dump" lol. What's your whole deal with trying to redefine the term and wanting to "pump and dump"? presumably it makes you feel good about yourself for some reason? Idk it's weird. Well I find this behavior weird in general, many men are so conceited about their ability to distress/flex on/disrespect women in some way. I've never met women who brag about hurting men the way men brag ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:17 PM
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I would feel a lot of sympathy for them if only a lot of them weren't manipulative liars and shallow hypocrites who need to bully others for self confidence. too bad many are so they don't deserve my sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:30 AM
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true for some women lol. Well its not that bad compared to the male experience. Match with 99% of women without looking at bio, message girls in order of pig butchering catfish to insta influencer to pretty girls to average (personality, politics, compatibility optional). Strike out, get salty, msg the below average ones w/ much worse attitude and effort, ask for hookup, call her an ugly fat ho if she says no, insult her to feel better about yourself. Wank, complain on reddit about the "females"…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:53 AM
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yes, it's almost as thick as some of the most "intelligent" men I've met /s, because i'm not a weirdo like you are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:07 AM
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I'm really impressed how some guys can turn any topic into unrelated bitching about women. They really can't help themselves when they feel a disturbance in the hierarchy, the "male supremacy" complex needs to lash out. It's kind of an insecure and pissy move though. The irony is thick here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:08 PM
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If the woman in your hypothetical got acid thrown at her or became horrible disfigured after the gang rape or became morbidly obese after getting an eating disorder, yes, most men with any better options would chose those options over her. no one is saying mentally ill or disabled or obese people don't deserve love. But relationships are not about "worthiness", they're about attraction, especially in the early stages. Most people will say to improve whatever you can to improve your chances and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:53 AM
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I have no idea why you would say something so wrong. It has to be projection. The manosphere is way larger and much more hateful towards women than any opposite equivalent. Look at this sub, many modern men are not remotely capable of empathizing with women and their default mode towards women is spite and contempt. It's more true that most women are just indifferent towards male strangers, while many men are hateful, resentful, contemptuous towards women. If you define "love" as respect, empath…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:55 AM
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I agree with that 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:50 AM
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Maybe they get more disappointed and more angry about being single because they had higher expectations for women and for life than we do. some guys seem real pissed they aren't able to flex their money, power, property, or women. They expect that out of life and they're disappointed. I just can't be that disappointed, my expectations for men and for life are low. we were already born in this insanely lucky time period and location where they aren't abusing or treating us as property too much. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:01 AM
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No, you are wrong. Also you have the incentive to misrepresent to women what RP is, but many RP will be honest about RP when they think they are in spaces with only other men and the women can't hear how much they hate women. I read RP theory straight from the source from articles made by the RP "experts" on the RP subreddit's sidebar. content like how women were the "oldest teenager in the house" and the tutorials on how to make women feel insecure and self hating were especially interesting. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:16 AM
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Well, you can lie to us here all you want, we can go into your subreddits and spaces and see all the complaining and hating going on. what percentage of RPs "find massive success", just curious? if it becomes significant, women need to start organizing and warning each other of potentially abusive, hateful, selfish and unreliable men who hide their toxicity but want to hurt us down the line. I'm thinking, similar to AWDTSG but maybe, AWDRP
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:08 PM
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RP don't want women to lower their standards and they don't complain? Now you're the one who's trolling. It sounds like you should read up on it more, nearly every other post on the redpill subreddit is bitch moaning and complaining about women. The other posts are tutorials on how to manipulate and lie and make women miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:59 PM
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It's their life, they don't owe me anything. I don't see men as untapped resources who need to put me first, like PPD men see women. Most women do not care if you have more success dating abroad. story sounds kinda fake or contains some of your bias "passport bro" is a loaded word which usually implies the guy is one of those loud rude american sex tourists, possibly racist, that the locals hate. I understand hating passport bros, I don't understand hating guys who happen to fall in love with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:41 AM
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Then be more precise in what you say. You spoke generally as well ("men are honest and don’t gaslight women"), and it can be interpreted as you extrapolating and virtue signaling that males are more honest and less manipulative in general. but if you didn't mean to imply that, and if you agree that men are NOT more honest or gaslight less in general, then we don't disagree there. I have a question, would you tell your date that looks are the most important to you, knowing she might dump you for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:46 AM
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"men are honest and don't gaslight women"... lol. Men lie so often to get sex that i'm surprised when they're not lying. whenever a guy shows up the right height, age, works at the place he says he works, and isn't lying about his political views, I'm shocked. The worst liars i've ever met are men lying to get into a woman's pants. Anyway speaking generally, PPD men here will be "honest" about what might convince average women to feel bad for poor, sexless men and to fuck them. Because it paints…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:49 PM
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fucking PREACH lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:35 PM
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We aren't talking about accountability like paying taxes and avoiding criminal behavior. We're talking about accountability for the sexual success of the other gender. Are you accountable for whether a plain looking, boring, but below average "nice" girl gets to fuck around with men and then marry the ideal husband of her dreams? If you aren't, then why are women are accountable for men's desire of fucking around and then marrying his ideal partner? Most modern men's double standards, in a nutsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:34 PM
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then men should never complain and shut the hell up when it comes to women. but yall don't do you. Look at how many guys whine on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:22 AM
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Lol if this is "man logic", then it's stupid as hell. women should start applying this. If a man choses to have sex with a woman, then she can humiliate and mock and shame him and tell his friends his weird kinks and how he's terrible in bed. also make fun of his dick size and send his nudes to other people. She can give him STDs and steal from him when he's asleep - it's all okay. He can't complain, he chose to have sex. men will try to fuck women and then say women are the worst and continue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:20 PM
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that's an interesting perspective, that's how they see us. They insult because they're angry, so they think women insult them because we're angry. I had no idea you guys were so mad and emotional about women and that's why you keep insulting us, but thanks for sharing your projected feelings. Idk if anyone is "right" about their weird obsessed hierarchies of being "lesser" or "higher". Feel free to feel like I'm "lesser" lol. after meeting some so called, self proclaimed higher male reddit life …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:36 AM
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Maybe women need to start doing this to men so they would understand. Playing defense sucks. I've never told a guy, "hey don't you want to vote and have rights and not be shamed if you don't suck up to women? Well, you don't get to be victims of anything anymore. You can't simultaneously have agency and have problems (but I do)". I realize everyday that the idea that many men really don't see us as equals by default. Must be so nice to be a man. You get to complain and have agency. apparently wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:22 AM
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I'm not forced to, but bait is bait lol. like a strip club but with outrage. they really play up the gendered insult buzzwords and "females second class" circlejerks. some guys will circlejerk with other men exclusively but some real weirdos enjoy negative attention of being insulted back by women and doing it in spaces where women are. Like in PPD too. It's the passport bro equivalent of shaking a big fat jiggly butt in someones face and asking to get hit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:30 AM
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No, it's passport bros who comment literally every day about how much they hate "western women" and negative insulting generalizations of them, to bait the negative attention they want. Then they spin any criticism of those things into "so you do care about who we date!!" but deep down inside, they know most women don't care what ethnicity they fap to. do you see many of us caring about any non misogynistic travel dating subs? the second they ACTUALLY ban the badmouthing western women circlejerk…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:28 AM
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just as brainrotted as the guy I was replying to :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:18 PM
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This pisses me off every time I see it. You annoying male redditors need to stfu about Ukraine's women. even without being drafted, record numbers of their women are serving in the military. ukraine is a conservative country, a lot of their military MEN believe in trad gender roles and don't wish the women to be there. these women are volunteer soldiers, who don't have to be there, are told not to be there by conservatives, and still risk their lives regardless. making up 15% of their military t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:33 PM
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K thanks, great input
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:42 AM
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Actual people can be toxic, woman hating abusers and not show it in public. they only say how they truly feel (hating women and believing in male supremacy) online when they're anonymous. are all the redpilled misogynists on this sub not actual people? what are you doing here if you think people in this sub don't count and their opinions don't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:35 AM
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I'm fine there lol, thanks for asking! why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:27 AM
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it's the opposite actually. Men on this sub have been telling me it's okay for men to cheat and spread their seed, it's in their biological nature, they can't help it. while women having wandering eyes or a desire to cheat is not biological nature, women are immoral and sinful, a woman cheating is the most evil thing in the world, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:50 PM
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And men will say one thing and do another - you underestimate how much a man is willing to lie to get into someone's pants. The best, most manipulative, pathological delusional liars i know are men and not women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:06 AM
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I openly admit that it's the same as men. Women want what men want. the best, the quantity, the variety. you just invented silly vocabulary like "hypergamy" and "branch swinging" to bitch at women but men are just the same. Men’s natural inclination is towards the most women he can get. So you're telling me that men are hypergamous, branch swingers. MOST women - branch swinging.. and if they can, they'll take the BEST - most attractive, hypergamous. it's so strange these males have no shame over…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:15 AM
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https://medium.com/@roborwell/how-often-does-jordan-peterson-not-know-what-he-is-talking-about-2d8870e411c5 he just wants to pretend to be smart, dude is an idiot. he's just good at speaking with a cadence. armchair expert needs to stfu about hard sciences and math. lets be real, psychology is barely a science https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSNWkRw53Jo here's your evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:52 PM
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global warming, biology, geopolitics. dude admits he can't read the studies or understand math, why cant he just stfu the hell up about climate science? only dumb people think he's smart and dogwhistling "we're different" and racebaiting and genderbaiting by cherrypicking stats and then wiggling his eyebrows at the camera
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:37 PM
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says who? I can make shit up too, women's natural inclination is towards the best, and most MEN she can get. and then justify women's cheating with any attractive man in her vicinity. women have naturally wandering eyes just like men, we have the same natural inclinations to cheat just like men, the only difference is our libidos. why are men allowed to cook up this bullshit to justify their cheating and we aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:35 PM
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he's a pseudo intellectual who needs to stfu about topics he knows nothing about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:11 AM
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2x says all men should die? this is why I don't believe the fearmongering about feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:18 AM
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that is a good analogy. Most women will still date men and be careful, just like most will use cars and still wear their seatbelt
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:27 AM
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cool, at least consistent. If women deserve it every time a man hurts her, I think men deserve it as well. Women need to be better at victim blaming too and recognizing the rules men set, so we can be on an even playing field. I support abuse gender equality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:07 AM
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Sometimes you can and sometimes you can't. plenty of idiot men who don't have working personality detectors if the girl is hot. end up sending their life savings to some guy in india using catfish photos. Pretty pathetic and shallow if you ask me We should mock abuse or scam victims regardless of gender, if we're going to do it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:28 AM
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Unclear what this has to do with the prompt, as you can still have female friends even if you're a sex addict also, why is sex the right thing to be always thinking about? what's the urgency and why think about it all the time? that sounds rather distracting and unproductive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:27 AM
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I get that envy, but I'm not sure what people saying it expect others to do. most of us have to live boring average lives like you and feel the same way. would be great to be born crazy rich, famous, well connected, or beautiful. one lucky woman can use, manipulate, financially abuse 100s of men crazy about her if she chooses to do so. We don't live in a perfect world where male attention is distributed uniformly and fairly, and that is just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:51 PM
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Most of my friends met their bf in college or at work. a lot of women don't like using the apps, especially if their social circles are large enough that they'll find a bf through friends eventually. dating apps are last resort for women. I think that explains the gender ratio on the apps, unless a lot of men are secretly trying to cheat. most of the women who chose to go on apps are able to get off quickly. I think you are seeing some survivorship bias in the women that stay on it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:59 PM
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randomly lashing out at internet strangers, and passive aggressive emojis. Ok dude. it's not our fault you're balding, just get finasteride instead of unprompted shrieking and projecting YOUR hysterical aging paranoia at women on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:00 AM
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There is a lot of delusion to unpack here. I love men, I don't hate men. Sometimes I'm more positive about men than men themselves, since they think all men are womenhating sex maniacs like they are. I hate very specific creepy men on this subreddit. Fallen gods and churches? Wtf you guys really overestimate how average men treat the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:55 AM
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Sure we believe you.. Mr "indestructible charm".. you sound like the kind of guy who writes a Navy seal fanfic about himself. Obnoxious, full of himself, can dish it and bitches when he has to take it Sounds like you're aging and balding and insecure so you're lashing out at the ladies because your upcoming midlife crisis "hurts your own feewings so now I'm going to insult you because I'm too emotionally immature and insecure to handle the truth"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:31 AM
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I wonder if you have that energy because you're balding, aging, maybe getting ED, and projecting lol. You sound lovely, I'm so surprised no girl wants to cuff you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:01 AM
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it disturbs me how many men like you are in the dating pool nowadays. anyway I could convince you to stay home and never date? avoid women forever? I would bribe you to stay the fuck away from us lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:41 AM
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You can also look up the definition of the full phrase "take something personally"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:07 PM
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If women are not saints, and men are not saints, it does not help to make exaggerated bullshit statements like "ONLY women and men are loved unconditionally" and then redefine "unconditional love" with a bunch of disclaimers where male flaws are totally fine and still qualify, and female ones aren't. i can redefine "unconditional love" in my own way then too. I should start saying, "only men and children are loved unconditionally" given how many men and boys are womenhating redpillers nowadays. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:53 AM
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how many men can do overtime because their wives are doing nearly all the childcare, housework, cooking and cleaning? I slave to support YOU too. how many whiny unemployed NEETs living in mommys basement are supported by female working taxpayers? how many dollars do we spend on issues that are predominantly caused by men, prisons for violent criminals, on the war on drugs, on the military industrial complex? it's me subsidizing this, so where's my submissive male manservant to pay me back for MY…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:25 AM
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many more husbands kill their wives more often than wives kill their husbands. mothers kill more kids when they are suffering from psychosis or PPD, once the kids are older, much more fathers kill their kids. Also DV that produces severe injury is much more likely to towards women from men. I'm not even saying women are saints or whatever. There are plenty of categories you can cherrypick where women do something worse. I'm just saying MEN aren't saints and your definition of "unconditional love…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:33 AM
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you really need to stop projecting, I did not go through your comment history no matter how much you wish I did, and you're the one who isn't here to change your mind. It was clear before you outed yourself that you're a toxic little womanhating troll. What's the result you wanted? insulting others and having them justify themselves to you while you act like the judge of who is good or evil? insulting others as a way to fish for negative attention, and then pearl clutching when you get it? yes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:22 AM
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They work long shifts and also cheat. Japanese men are notorious cheaters and terrible husbands. the women also cheat, but the men cheat much more. I know you have a narrative to push but that's the facts. go look up any youtube interview of japanese men and see them brag about cheating on women. I've talked to japanese friends about this, it's just the truth that those men are low value
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:58 AM
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aren't you the one going through my comment history? all I did is reply to one of your comments. Thanks for your insults towards my gender too, you overestimate how much we care about toxic males who hate us. the best thing you can do for everyone's benefit is to stay away from women and we'll stay away from you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:32 AM
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Why would I want to change your mind? Maybe you're right and you should give up on dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:24 AM
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If "be yourself" means unironically "be the worst version of yourself and having a gf is guaranteed" -- dating is the least of your problems and you need to get diagnosed by a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:21 AM
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Why even talk to women if you're going to invent fantasies that you think women think? You have the world figured out, so stop engaging with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:18 AM
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your massive generalization is based on that? as if men don't frequent abandon their kids or beat their wives that they "love unconditionally"? bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:14 AM
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get off the high horse, most japanese women are also working. Everyone is working
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:11 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:08 AM
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Many of them gave up on japanese men I heard. so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:01 AM
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Be real, if a woman took your advice and blew a guy she just met to see if he liked her or not, you'd mock and humiliate her. she'll end up blowing like 30+ guys and get zero orgasms, risk STDs, get mocked and disrespected by men, and then it'll add to her "body count" so her future bf will use it to justify treating her like shit. That's how men act around promiscuous women. Would you tell your sister or daughter to give men handjobs or blowjobs to see if they liked her or not? this is ridiculo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:00 AM
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be real, if you met a girl who gave 50 men blowjobs on the second date to "see if they liked her for real or not", you'd call her a cheap ho and make fun of her with your bros. That's how guys act around women who put out early
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:56 AM
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No, japanese men cheat more than japanese women. it doesn't matter if the woman "denies him access to sex" or not, you can be the perfect wife, all japanese men cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:55 AM
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don't fault them for that. In japan the men all cheat, treat women like trash and I hear they're not particularly good looking or good in bed either. i see why so many japanese women don't want to date japanese men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:24 AM
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women get less orgasms, risk more, could get pregnant, and lose value and respect according to the redpill by having sex. A lot of men love to shame, disrespect, dehumanize and humiliate women who have a lot of sex. And you're literally talking handjobs and blowjobs, that does nothing for us, so it's 100% a favor. since you are redpill, you know you devalue promiscuous women, and it's pretty obvious gaslighting from you to advocate for women to sleep with men early. You would mock and humiliate …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:59 AM
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What other ways can we check that he's not a manipulate fuckboy liar who fakes affection for sex, without needing to touch his dick though? women don't enjoy being "used for sex" by some icky creep who doesn't respect her, just to check if he doesn't respect her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:01 AM
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if that's gaslighting, then I was gaslit by men too. When I was a fat little hairy pubescent teenager, feeling insecure about my looks, my male relatives told me shit like "it's inner beauty that matters" and "just be yourself". Ofc that's meant to make you feel better. Obviously boys my age did not give a damn about "inner beauty" or "good personality" or "she's a 'nice' girl" or whatever. It's more common that women are supposed to learn male preferences, and put up with the fashion/shaving/ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:27 PM
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it's as much gaslighting as the "bluepill conspiracy" here. I'm just trying to make a point -- lashing out at others being polite or vague or unwilling to go into detail -- can look unhinged and childish. man or woman. its even more unhinged to misinterpret and extrapolate ragebait nonsense from their parents & friends white lies and moral support. Santa isn't real, mom maybe doesn't think you're THAT handsome, and dad probably isn't THAT proud of you. Are they going to lose their minds over tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:17 PM
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Haha yeah maybe I should be dropping the /s everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:34 PM
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yeah, I can't out-tantrum someone this whiny and immature, so i'll just back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:32 PM
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I guess you're right. it is vanity. those men knew they were just full of shit and hiding how shallow they truly are. the nerdy introverts I'm around are the absolute worst. I remember asking guys their type and it was always shit like "I like girls who play video games" or "i want someone also passionate about music" or "i like girls with a good sense of humor". but ofc looks are still the #1 priority for males who care about those things. so they're liars. of course. I agree virtue signaling n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:26 PM
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what does your unrelated baseless generalization have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:55 AM
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it did not. This family tree is ugly asf lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:21 AM
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Yes, exactly, so you're saying the males in my life have gaslit me. them being polite and consoling me, is just lying. Why shouldn't I be toxic to males like my dad who gaslight and lie to me Why would people expect me to read between the lines, like a normal neurotypical person, and get over myself? Because based on romance stories and my lying gaslighting dad, I should feel justified in being toxic to men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:17 AM
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Dw... I was a chubby kid and wised up in high school lol. Similarly bitchy men who do not see the problem in being out of shape or antisocial, time for them to embrace the "inner beauty" too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:04 AM
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I know, i fully think it's a completely valid preference to have, so shouldn't guys have known that earlier? that guys fitness would matter for girls too?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:03 AM
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if that's gaslighting, then I was gaslit by men too. When I was a fat little hairy pubescent teenager, feeling insecure about my looks, my male relatives told me shit like "it's inner beauty that matters" and "just be yourself". Ofc that's meant to make you feel better. Obviously boys my age did not give a damn about "inner beauty" or "good personality" or "she's a 'nice' girl" or whatever. It's more common that women are supposed to learn male preferences, and put up with the fashion/shaving/ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:09 AM
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We can see the trees, we can see the forest, but we aren't responsible for fixing your disingenuous problems. We know bitter men who complain about this would never care about womens "trees or forests" either especially when the solution is them fucking women they're not into. Men would never call their preferences "transphobic" or "fatphobic" or "homophobic", so why should we? If you want a man to be fucked, fuck him yourself instead of bitching at women to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:54 PM
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I see many more fat/ugly/old/whore/antisocial/obnoxious men with decent women than fat/ugly/old/whore/antisocial/obnoxious women with decent men. perhaps the people complaining about this are deluding themselves about their own attractiveness and likeability
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:06 AM
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Is society keeping you from making one close male friend and then opening up to that one person in private
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:06 AM
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and that is the equal of many pilled men. Fat, ugly, old, wannabe man whore, bad in bed, antisocial, unlikeable personality, shitty attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:03 AM
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it answers the question, "are women held to moral standards than men are not?" then answer is yes. Many men will actively pursue romance with young, attractive female pedos, Nazis, serial killers. you can be murdering orphans and setting puppies on fire, but if you're hot, men won't even care. men don't judge each other for that but ofc women (and never men) need to be distributing sex in a moral way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:29 AM
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yes, i'll deny and offload responsibility of bull shit straw men. so the bitchy whiners about boogeyman fake feminazi nonsense can quit with THEIR "persecuted by feminists" victim complex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:06 AM
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Shows up drunk and high to work, physically assaulted a set member, destroys hotel property, brags in interviews about being a violent drunk with substance abuse problems.. idk, more likely hes an abuser with a great PR team than isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:04 AM
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in a sense, it is funny. The real comedy is the cosmically fucked up, absurd joke that we have to coexist with these bigger stronger narcissistic assholes who view us as second class. i do laugh but its the kind of laughter that gives me depression
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:25 AM
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glad I'm a feminist and read what they say directly. instead of being gaslit by men who tell me when they say "culture and past abuse and parenting can affect your taste in partners" i should hear "women's attraction to strong men is the patriarchy's fault "
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:45 PM
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Yeah some women imagine that about feminists too..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:38 PM
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Maybe the minutes exist in the imaginations of guys who want to complain about feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:25 PM
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I must have missed the conference where feminists decided everything is 100% nurture and 0% nature
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:21 PM
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The kind of guy who will say "women are loved unconditionally" and then brag to men about sexually degrading and hurting and disposing of "unconditionally loved women" as a flex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:10 PM
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No, women are not led to believe this. Men were not led to believe this either. The vast majority of neurotypical guys recognize women care about looks. "Be a gentleman" is not "be a gentleman and women will NEVER care how you look". "Just be yourself" is also not "you don't have to self improve, you're guaranteed success". PPD act like they heard the latter when it's always the former. it's just that kids nowadays are spoiled weak minded children who want to hear guarantees and magic single sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:47 PM
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Does a woman's personality/kindness/niceness elevate her ability to sexually succeed with you if you found her physically unattractive? If a "nice guy" says no to that, why are they miffed? if they think that towards others, why are they surprised when others think that towards them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:41 PM
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https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/485803 this one said 32%. I don't doubt you though, I wouldn't be surprised if their wives/gfs were cheating on them too. maybe the wives/gfs cheat even more. with that said. on a whole, I assume army guys do decent depending on how many girls are into macho conservative guys in the area. IDK where you are but you should just find where those girls are at and move there. The prettiest girl Ive ever seen, god's blonde angel on earth drop dead gorgeous, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:23 PM
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A family friend told me half of all service members cheat. wouldn't surprise me if half of them get cheated on too though. if you can find the numbers on cheating, military guys vs their wives, that'd be interesting. I got too lazy to google
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:34 PM
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It really is not your looks if you're not overrating yourself. It's more likely the above average girl rejected the above average guy for incompatibility reasons than for looks. heck im a solid 5 and I wouldn't date a military 8. It's not the looks, its the military gf lifestyle and the political/class differences and also i've been told all the time conservative or redpilled guys only value you bc of your looks so he's bound to cheat and treat me like shit at some point. I know a guy who's a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:51 PM
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So you want attractive women out of your league and you're bitching about women wanting attractive men out of their league... Male double standards as usual Ugh... please don't take his advice before going to a therapist, making some normal friends and dealing with your issues with women. don't be one of the guys kicked out of a hiking group because he loses his shit at women for politely rejecting him
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:49 AM
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You are such a good gaslighter. Schrodinger's misogyny as usual lol... When a terminally online misogynist wants a woman to feel insignificant, self hating, guilty, ashamed, and second class, it exists. When women notice, criticize, or tell each other about it, it stops existing. it's imaginary and you're such a fake victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:43 AM
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I feel bad for that guy. He's so terrible at writing fiction and hiding his obvious agenda. Maybe a real husband would have more details, more emotional turmoil in instantly divorcing his wife, and be more interested in his relationship and less interested in convincing reddit strangers how right he is about black people and paternity tests. They can't even seem empathetic or normal to their fake partners in their imagination. if my partner said they're afraid of me, or of romantic partners in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:24 AM
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Men and women who say they want this should start by fostering some kids and seeing if they can actually hack it as a single parent. Some people here definitely don't have the financial stability or maturity or ability to maintain good relationships, let alone parental relationships. If they could come up with money for a surrogate, they'll be ditching their "biological legacy" at grandma's soon after, who will grow up badmouthing their deadbeat mom/dad and seeing them as a complete loser
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:43 AM
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In most cases, socioeconomic class affects people's lives way more than gender does. Sure we can talk about the pros and cons of being a man or a woman. But always better to be a rich woman than a poor man, even in a world with tons of misogyny, and ofc better to be a rich man than a poor woman. I'm a hardcore feminist and I'd admit this anyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:40 AM
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The number of people who hear this strawman, even though very very few people say all women are as horny as men, is why redpillers cannot be trusted to have an honest discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:25 AM
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Hilarious to completely strawman someone else with YOUR FANTASIZING about THEIR FANTASIZING, and then complain about strawmen. I'm not saying you specifically said EVERYTHING that I mentioned - I'm just bringing up that women should ignore PPD men's whiny complaining bitchy attitude about women being shallow. Complaining usually means they think they're being wronged and female libido is unjust (and always, let's never scrutinize male libido). They're not being wronged. They're just bitching abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:31 AM
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Exactly lol, women are evil selfish and shallow. Let's not forget the most important rule. Men imagining meeting a pretty manic pixie dream girl = okay. Women fantasizing about meeting a social, attractive, successful guy = not okay Remember ladies, you're not the same as men. Men can value sex appeal, but men are more important. If women value sex appeal, they should feel shame and guilt for putting female personal desires over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:05 AM
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It doesn't seem that different. on the contrary... There are toxic "female redpill" content creators as well, but at least they're not super popular, self confessed rapists who participate in human trafficking. Men don't see the "same solidarity" in being toxic - that's such a lie. Plenty of manosphere grifters are advocating for men to be toxic, abusive, manipulative liars nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:58 AM
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I've learned the correct response from guys in PPD -- Are you picking "bad girls" only? You can't give the shy/homely/autistic/introverted/chubby girls a chance? Dude is ran through by girls above his league who get to treat him badly and walk all over him... probably going to settle for some girl once he's approaching 40s, uglier and older and lower value /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:48 AM
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Pointing out is not the same as complaining endlessly and thinking of revenge fantasies for "women are shallow about looks, like men, that's not allowed"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:30 AM
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Don't redpillers constantly blame the system, women for being shallow like men, and the "bluepill" conspiracy that "personality is the only thing that matters"? conservatives do a lot of blaming other people though. especially certain groups of people like LGBT+ people or women or immigrants that are lower in the hierarchy. And whenever they're the ones who need help or they display the flaws they complain about in others, they often don't take personal accountability. Ofc liberals do this too, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:29 AM
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If "average height guy with friends, his own place, and a middle class job" is 90th percentile, that's sad. And it wouldn't be women's fault for not noticing guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:11 PM
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Also agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:10 AM
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on the contrary, we like surviving and living well so much, that trad cultures need to use that as leverage to get the women to fuck the men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:09 AM
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history definitely proves it wrong, you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:55 PM
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I'm not going to respond to most of this because it involves things I didn't say. arguments from you to your imagination don't need to involve me. The only thing I wanted to mention is: like you described, in most trad cultures, men see women as holes, women see them as cash dispensers, but because MEN control this dynamic and gatekeep women out of money of power, this financial leverage is something men wanted in the first place. that's all I was gonna say, I'm out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:12 PM
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I grew up in a traditional culture, there is no golden goose. all that awaits them is getting beat by your husband and contemplating suicide but you can't because you have kids. It's a lie and it always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:58 PM
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Why did you think i meant sexual assault? I meant this is what they offer, obviously you can accept or reject. For you to put up with some sexual humiliation, consensually, wouldn't you want money? you have the cause and effect wrong. Men don't treat women like holes because women use men for cash. Men treat women like holes because they think men are the upper class and women are the lower class. in many trad countries, they actually forced the "women use men as cash dispenser" culture because …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:39 PM
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If someone wanted to spit on your face and then have you suck his dick or something, you'd probably want money too right? it's the only way it'd be worth it. if many men are only able to see women as warm holes, then it makes sense that many women would need money to be around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:09 AM
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I see, so male "love" is "mild affinity for a warm hole they fuck into" and women's personalities, characters, skills, kindness, financial contributions, and actions don't matter. While easy to clear the bar, that bar is a reward that's kind of worthless. To men, we may as well be a room temperature cantaloupe with a hole gouged out in it. To be seen like that and treated like that is rather depressing The statement "women are loved unconditionally" is confusing then. men seem to mean "love" as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:20 AM
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Probably Danny Devito. Or any famously short Hollywood actor
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:25 AM
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Again, waiting for my links and evidence..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:06 PM
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If you're so sensitive about male vs female physical differences, the existence of the manosphere, and the radicalization of young men into worshipping a human trafficking rapist, that's your prerogative. This sub might not be a good fit for you, as this is where discussions about those topics happen. I can't help you unhear strawmen stuff that I'm not saying. Please take your own advice and be an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:51 PM
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more shit I didn't say. never said I was forced to date physical stronger abusive men, never said violent behavior comes out of nowhere, never said I'm always around violent people, also I'm not on tiktok. if your definition of "highly sexist" is "abusive men have a higher likelihood of causing severe injury or killing their partners than abusive women, because of their larger size and muscle mass" then OK snowflake, I'm sexist. happy now? Jesus christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:31 PM
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great, you have links and evidence of a NON INCEL guy being called an incel? Love it. show me your evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:22 PM
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I'm not really sure what you're talking about tbh. some one tweeting "women are so so powerful I am so so powerful" says to me, they're gassing themselves up and a little insecure. I don't take it too seriously. some strawmen like feminists think "men are inferior in every way" in there too. I got stuff to do so i'm not gonna respond to it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:21 PM
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yes, and let me "gaslight" you some more. Sexual attraction has many factors, personality is only one of many factors, and many so called "nice" men who expect sex and attention bc of their "niceness" wouldn't give sex and attention to "nice" unattractive women. they aren't secret about it lol. We can see that they're bad and hypocritical people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:13 AM
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Go back and reread what I said. I never said "testosterone and muscles make someone an abuser". all I was implying is that men are physically stronger and typically, male on female abuse causes more injury and death to the victim than the other way around. Is that not allowed to be brought up? Who are you, the MRA woke police? I'm talking about the manosphere and the redpillers as the people who see women as second class and deserving of abuse. And I never blamed all men. At what point will you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:10 AM
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from men I suppose. redpill is right about men and what they think of women. And the truth is pretty ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:35 AM
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Didn't say all men. Ofc women can be abusive but its different, be real. less hormones, less muscles, less political power, no large scale movement to see men as an inferior second class who deserve to be dehumanized, lied to, and negged But more and more men are redpilled nowadays and hoping for a woman to abuse, being trad will make it really easy for them. especially bad time for one to be a traditional woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:22 AM
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as long as you don't disrespect other womens choices to have careers, go for whatever lifestyle you want. Take care though, it might not be 100% of traditional men who are abusive, but it's quite a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:21 AM
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I am chinese, spent some of my childhood there, are you sure you didn't reply to the wrong person? confused with some of what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:24 PM
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Is your opinion important enough, that I need to jump through hoops, doxx myself, and record my relatives talking about it and translate it into english for you? I don't think so lmao....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:54 AM
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my uncle hit his pregnant wife because their firstborn was going to be a daughter. He threatened to abandon her if his one child was going to be female. Tbf, his mother also slapped and shouted at her as well. she aborted. really is all the women's fault, isn't it...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:45 PM
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I don't say the women are blameless for internalizing the cultural hatred for women. tbf many women don't hate ourselves and our gender, we just go along and pretend for our own survival. If the husband and his parents promised to love their daughters the same as their sons and promised support, instead of slapping or insulting or threatening to abandon the pregnant woman, she likely would've given birth to the daughters. I know you're using hyperbole, that they expect their kids to be incredibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:14 PM
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What a weird attempt to focus on just the pregnant moms for aborting. I'm Chinese. two of my aunties were slapped, beaten or yelled at by the husband and their in-laws after they found out it was a girl. Few parents in the 80s wanted to give birth to an unloved low value daughter that the in-laws are threatening to ditch near a mountain road somewhere You don't get it and some of what you said is wild. 6 foot caucasian supermodel son huh??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:55 PM
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there is no "blue pill". It's an extreme made up by redpillers as a strawman to get mad at. "Being fun, friendly and social will help" is not "personality is the ONLY thing that matters and you're guaranteed success even if you're ugly/antisocial/short/have disabiliites". But redpillers are imagining the second, that strawman they invented as "bluepill" while only the first was explicitly said to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:22 AM
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Luckily, men are the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:54 AM
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If you're talking about men, you are totally correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:50 AM
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Incorrect, *men* pursue based on looks and status, not based on stuff like "personality" or "morality". If more women were violent criminals, men would date, fuck, marry them regardless. All of redpill is massive projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:49 PM
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No offense but a lot of bottom 10% (in looks, career, social skills) guys think that their problems are shared by all men. It definitely sucks ass to be in that spot, and we should have sympathy for them, but it can't be generalized to all men. if most people have the same number of sexual partners, and if most people can partner up and have kids, the standards are not that impossible. Right now the data shows it's still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:29 AM
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It's more embarrassing to men, a lot of men are down bad and would pursue a fascist woman. ESPECIALLY if she was physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:58 PM
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Yes, sometimes women DO give polite non answers. Just like men give polite non answers to fat or ugly women. I really doubt what you brought up is happening widely, and it's not relevant to "polite non answers", but whatever. Examples of short guys, who aren't incels or misogynists, being called an incel or a misogynist? Links please
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:56 PM
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Idk if you commented on the wrong comment.. but yeah disgusting ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:40 PM
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are some women too polite? are some men maliciously misinterpreting polite non answers by strangers into hyperbolic garbage like "physical appearance has NOTHING to do with failure in dating"? probably both to some extent are true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:21 AM
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So why don't we resolve the issue by correcting girls of the majority thatvturn down men for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:10 AM
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I feel so bad for your mom, sounds like your dad only cares about her looks. She basically did the same thing your dad did in her first marriage.. be shallow and value looks.. and her kid is just dripping with contempt for her. Sad really
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:46 AM
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True. It is depressing also how many men simp for attractive looking female murderers and criminals. There was that girl who stabbed her love interest in the stomach and watched him bleed out while smoking a cigarette. Because of how she looks, she now has an online army of male simps. Really shows a lot about what they value...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:43 AM
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You're the one who said that. You want to "correct" some women for being traditional and turning down non traditional men. because it doesn't suit YOU personally. but it might suit traditional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:36 AM
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You aren't entitled to compatibility with every single woman out there. No one has to give you a chance. If she's upfront that she's traditional, both of you should just say no thanks and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:37 AM
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Just like you've shown right now, redpillers want to hide the truth of "why" they're so mad at women. You can resort to ad hominem attacks and complaining about feminism if you want. The truth is pretty ugly, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:50 PM
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Incorrect. Redpill is about having a PROBLEM with female nature, and it's that female nature is too much like male nature. Women can be self serving, focused on looks, sexual attraction, and status, just like men. Why does it make them so mad? Because redpilled men believe men are above women in the hierarchy, so women not catering to men (by being as shallow and self serving as men) is seen as evil, immoral, and sinful. We don't deserve to be shallow, it's that simple. Redpillers often hide the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:05 AM
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what a bunch of lovely assumptions OP made in his (loaded) question. I have one for you, when did you stop beating your wife? No, I think redpill going mainstream only shows to women the ugly aspects of male nature. it essentially boils down to men can be as shallow as they want but women cannot be, because we are subhuman to men. It says much more about men and their thinking than it says about us. The only thing redpill changes for me is now I will be running a background check on guys I date,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:47 AM
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The average man is not traditional. Most households, especially if there's no kids, are double income. They haven't been upholding anything. Women have no time and energy after working to kiss up to the "traditional" men of today by doing extra domestic servant work. Not that the average 50/50 man even deserves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:06 AM
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what a bunch of lovely assumptions OP made in his question. I have one for you, when did you stop beating your wife? No, I think redpill going mainstream only shows to women the ugly aspects of male nature. it essentially boils down to men can be as shallow as they want but women cannot be, because we are subhuman to men. It says much more about men and their thinking than it says about us. The only thing redpill changes for me is now I will be running a background check on guys I date, about a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:48 AM
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I'm just provoking people to make that observation. You and most pilled men want to defend AWALT and complain about AMALT. that's why you defended and sympathized w/ the other guy earlier and are taking steps back now. Nearly all misogyny defenders are misandry complainers, like you. I've never met a single guy who was like "stop being so sensitive. stereotypes exist for a reason" and then took it well when I made fun of him or men. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:21 AM
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You're right though. women are all the same, we are all entitled princesses. All men are the same too, and their "same" is more violent/hateful/creepy/criminal. and let's be honest, more of a negative to society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:56 PM
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AMALT to a larger degree unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:56 PM
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Very true, I agree. some idiot simps SELECT for the pretty toxic girl wayyy out of his league. Average looking doof himself, prefers sending cringey amounts of attention to a girl ignoring him instead of dating someone average like him. some fuckboys SELECT for a young dumb naive low self esteem girl with daddy issues. He's the only one who knows he's cheating and lying his ass off when he says he looooves her Women need to stop ENABLING the fuckboys. Good convo, glad we reached an understanding…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:50 AM
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Haha, excellent proving of my point. I'll believe you are fair when you spend as much time complaining at men for selecting for the prettiest toxic women, as much as you do women. with the same victim blaming language you use for women. not the victim supporting language you use for men :) What a tone shift for simp men. "ooh poor man enabler giving energy to the delusional women who don't deserve it". tone for simp woman? "women selecting and choosing for the fuckboy to lay down with, any kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 01:09 AM
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as a feminist, I'd agree that women with internalized misogyny also uphold the patriarchy, but I would not say "just as much as men". that's classic victim blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 12:49 AM
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ok, apologies. sure we know men aren't great at expressing or handling other mens vulnerable emotions. But yeah let's shit over all their moms, aunties, wives, gfs, sisters. Men will dumpster all over womens character and a woman's a mild sarcastic comment makes men the victim. Fine lol. if you want, believe these delusional, immature, toxic manchildren with anger issues, at face value. the guy I responded to, he actually loved my suggestion and said "as an alpha male" would remind women of thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:59 PM
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Jesus. Well make sure you let her know you're the alpha male of the tribe. On the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:22 AM
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be honest. You for real? hypothetically, if 90% of men prioritized casual sex with the hottest people they could get and only 5% of women do, yall will still be hating on just the women. the fuckups you talk about, are only fuckups for women. being a lying, cheating, shallow, materialistic, manipulative fuckboy is heavily encouraged for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:21 AM
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Never, with your attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:13 AM
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weird right? it's almost as if one gender's moral fuckups are often violent crime which needs to be called out for public safety. and the other gender's moral fuckups are often... having sex that some guys don't approve of? according to this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:02 AM
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sounds like fearmongering. have you actually been accused of misogyny by organizing a boys night? the average adult does NOT enjoy the social cringe of inviting themself when unwelcome and does NOT enjoy accusing people for no reason. Idk where you are but in mixed friend groups i've been in over the years, it's very normal for the girls to have a "ladies brunch" or "ladies spa day" and the guys to have a "boys night out". if a guy wants to come to brunch or vice versa, they ask the person who o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:18 AM
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Lol yeah that sounds so fun, i'm gonna invite myself and I'm not gonna take no for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:50 AM
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I'm just poking fun, chill
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:34 AM
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Yes, you should definitely tell women that when she asks if you're alright. follow it up with "as an alpha male", that'll show her she's the emotionally fragile one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:05 AM
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what a load of horseshit, "against the odds"? the vast majority of men get custody easily if they want it. The ones who don't get custody, DON'T WANT CUSTODY. They don't try, they just pretend something with a 90%+ chance of success is sooo hard. They're liars. most caring and compassionate men in history constantly mocked and ridiculed by the most protected and least compassionate women Give me an example lol. Because a lot of delusional hateful redpillers think they're just SO caring and compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:24 PM
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Can't organize your own "boys night out" events nowadays. you know women, every single woman just loves crashing boys night. it's impossible to say no or stop them, they're relentless. guess you're fucked then, you will never hang out with other men in a group. a hypothetical female might come and ruin it and there's no stopping her. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:16 PM
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that's okay. most redpillers do think viewing women as subhuman objects is reasonable. All I want is for them to fess up to being the hateful, predatory bigots they are and not the good guys they think they are. Redpillers are by definition, disingenuous liars who set a false, impossible to meet premise to be mad at, to lash out at women. That's the truth. If that is reasonable to you, that's okay. you should own up to it though. if they weren't bitter men trying to learn how to abuse women, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:48 PM
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You're lying and I know what you're doing. the bullshit redpill motte-and-bailey again. Redpillers always start off with hyperbolic nonsense to get max sympathy points, blue pill is at first "society said women ONLY value personality and kindness and NEVER care about sexual attraction and ugly short guys WILL ALWAYS get a hot waifu if they are good on the inside". retreat to the motte when this ridiculous nonsense is called out. now bluepill is simply "society said women (sometimes) value emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:00 PM
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Ambitious, social climber, materialistic men definitely value a women's finances many men just don't get to make the choice but many are hypocrities, all other things equal, they would pick a rich woman over a poor woman. in the future where there are as much rich women as rich men, yall will keep bitching about women valuing success while doing it yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:54 PM
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Nope. society never told men, "physical attraction never matters, only personality/goodness does" but redpill pretends they heard it anyway. Everyone who isn't low functioning autistic knows women generally like tall, physically attractive, confident, successful men. since the age of high school we all knew this. EVEN OTHER MEN simp for those men as friends or coworkers and treat them better (ofc men are allowed to though, without being shamed) bluepill is a strawman. a never promised reality th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:31 PM
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What is bluepill though Looking at this sub, it's a catch-all for all sorts of bullshit apparently. Granny trying to cheer you up, "any girl would be lucky to date my grandson" -- bluepill. Some male fantasy movie from the 80s where the nerd gets the cheerleader -- bluepill. Friend tells you to relax and "be yourself" during a date -- bluepill. Any dating suggestions that isn't looks or money, which didn't instantly teleport dick to vagina -- bluepill they take the above and misinterpret that, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:22 AM
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similarly it's easy for women to see amoral male behavior on display, now lots of men tell the entire internet how much they resent and hate women. Men commit much more crime, injure or kill more partners. Married men attempt to cheat way more than women do, that cheating website for married men was like 99% men and 1% women (who were mostly bots). Married men abandon and stop supporting their kids more often. in the redpill universe, men are moral despite all that stuff above, yet women are amo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:53 AM
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I'll trust that you have read up on the subject. Do you really think the average person, not the pedantic academic nerd, actually uses "postmodernism" to influence their politics or ideals? "society grouping people into genders, races, or classes, can be a little arbitrary, oh no"... well that observation hasn't affected my life at all. in what tangible ways does postmodernism affect yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:53 AM
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You are wrong. It has always been a thing, and it is getting more and more popular with the younger generation. Young boys like hating on women so much their female teachers have trouble controlling them in class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:07 AM
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We don't. Some men here seem to assume that all men are good (especially if any conflict with a woman is involved). maybe this is projection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:30 AM
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Men complaining about their wife (or just humiliating or disrespecting women in general) is basically a genre of standup comedy. women are pressured to laugh along (mostly out of pain and feeling uncomfortable) or we're stuck up and uncool. Men complaining about their wives is all over reddit as well. OP is projecting, men complain way more about women than the other way around. the echo chambers with the extremely hateful rhetoric, devaluing the other gender as subhuman trash, it's majority mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:14 AM
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That's weird, it looks like "men" got autocorrected to "women" in your comment. You should fix that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:08 AM
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This sounds like some /r/iamverysmart rambling honestly. Plenty of postmodernists describe what the social construct of "gender" looks like in many different cultures. Can you be more concrete with what you expect from a "model of what gender is"? What exactly are you looking for? Have you read what postmodernism is, directly from the source, instead of a conservative grifter who tells you what postmodernism is? it's not that scary. From the couple of hours of video essays I've seen on postmoder…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:01 AM
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One sassy internet comment was all I needed thanks. Why add reasoning when you can claim something in an overconfident way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:07 AM
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have yet to see any "objective facts" feminists or postmodernists or trans rights advocates are ignoring. Gender IS a social construct, while biological sex is not. There any many cultures with a third gender before westerners took over everything. If you disagree, you are the one ignoring objective facts. What does any of this have to do with dating though? why would a couple feminists arguing with each other about postmodernism, impact your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:01 AM
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none of this makes any sense. It smells like the nonsense spouted by conservative podcasters who do not understand postmodernism or feminism and just use it as a boogeyman. There is a lot of disagreement among feminists about postmodernism. for instance, how do you advocate for a protected class of people, based on gender or race or whatnot, if people are hard to categorize and those categories are sometimes arbitrary? That is the point of postmodernism, is it so scary? what a dumb thing to be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:42 AM
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Thanks, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:49 PM
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I'll take it. "triggered woman" is better than whatever you are lol. either a teenage boy larping or a really unfortunate woman who hates herself and talks like a teenage boy larping.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:49 PM
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If it did, you'd explain the connection instead of dropping one word of sass and a downvote. But it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:26 AM
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That's right. one side has the data and the other side has the delusion. looking at breakdown of violent crime, substance abuse, internet echo chamber whininess by gender... you sure are projecting and deluded
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:24 AM
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Yikes, what happened to you? if you didn't learn anything valuable at school, at work, or from any of your hobbies or life experiences... try speaking for yourself, and not other women? if I didn't have intelligent, high achieving girlfriends, didn't meet other girls in college, and hated myself and my own gender I might've turned out like someone like you. That's scary to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:18 AM
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idk what the rant about changing beauty standards have to do with the fact that women were often financially pressured or coerced or forced into being with men they were not attracted to. in my great grandparents era, dads would often marry their daughters off to some old ugly wealthy geezer to be his third or fourth wife The attitude of the older now deceased women in my family was more "marriage is pain, life is pain, I hate my husband, but it is what it is" and less "old fat guys were attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:13 AM
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should an antisocial, autistic guy take it personally with other men if they have to wait til their 30s to have success building friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:56 PM
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*you physically stronger lol. and that's it. it's hardly the only thing that matters. men can be physically stronger and lazy, whiny, immature, useless, selfish, shallow, violent, a detriment to society and everyone around them. and they often are
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:53 PM
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Wrong, that is projection :) spoilt, whiny bitter little boys are the ones trained to see women as lesser inferior beings. spending all their time complaining online. wasting time and money on internet grifters telling them how special, how awesome, how much better men are than women. pretending they're macho macho men while getting babied by mommy dearest and dodging all accountability by blaming women for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:15 PM
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Bro... I'm talking about lesbian IPV misinformation with another dude. where did you show up with your random tangent about women on men abuse?maybe you should ask before making assumptions. I already know men are often abused by women (maybe much less injured, or killed though) Idk why you are inserting yourself, making up strawmen for me and then doing cringe victory laps. Find something better to do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:05 AM
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dude literally proved that if you take out the 1/3 of male perpetrators, lesbians have the same IPV as other couples :) I think you might need to learn how to read. instead of gargling another incels balls on command edit: now going to address the random shit you brought up. hilariously, it showed male perpetrators are more likely to injure or kill their partners. do you prefer to be killed or shoved? Again, NHMP findings somewhat parallel those found in the United States by Mize and Schackelfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:30 AM
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Weird how that entirely proves what I'm saying... Thanks for showing I'm right haha edit: thought I responded to /u/BCRE8TVE, mb. not one of his desperate circlejerking simps
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:08 AM
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Lmao... yall wish lol. He actually proved my point.. that when you take out the male perpetrators, lesbians face the same amount of intimate partner violence as heterosexual or gay couples. Facepalm moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:06 AM
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Fake news, PPD men intentionally spread this misinformation despite being told many times WHY this is the case. Lesbians only have higher rates of being abused when you count their previous male partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:09 PM
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redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:48 PM
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Those with a gender superiority complex are less accountable than those without. RP is just way more common than the female equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:40 PM
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Looking at this sub, lack of accountability is more a man thing than a woman thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:09 PM
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Tbf, PPD men say it's the one of the only things about women that men care about (looks)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:43 AM
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if you are perceived as lesser, as an object, that's how you get judged. actually while prison sentences for nonviolent crime are more lenient on women... prison sentences for VIOLENT crime are more harsh on women. especially on killing your intimate partner, husbands killing wives get much lighter sentences than wives killing husbands. When someone who's supposed to be lesser, weaker, less important murders someone who isn't... others freak out and they get judged far harsher men are judged on …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:51 AM
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Yeah agreed. people who are obsessed with that content have weird fantasies and serious issues there is so much ragebait trash "Karen" content, i side-eye all guys who use the term "Karen" too. enough times guys used it to assassinate her character, when it turns out people provoked her or took her bike or did something before the video started
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:27 AM
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what doesn't make sense? people are patronizing, contemptuous and show their disdain when they see unreasonable anger from weaker, smaller, less powerful people. but they aren't afraid look at how many people make fun of Karens and incels. that kind of content is basically contempt porn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:59 PM
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Exactly, so entitled lol. is pretty astounding They got a huge victim complex and mald over "men owe women human respect". bitches don't deserve that shit. and we gotta tell them daily on PPD that "women owe men lower standards" and "women owe autistic adult men detailed explanations on which men are sexually attractive" etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:56 PM
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lol prove my point. immature little spoilt whiny brat, wish your mom hit you more as a kid. you needed it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:49 PM
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Definitely more men want to be house husbands. I agree it's both. women aren't attracted to it, and men don't want to do it sincerely. To say the quiet part out loud, a lot of men just cannot be good house husbands. They only pretend on this sub. Women often do not see how men see women, the truth is many males are socialized to devalue and use women. Expecting women to serve and bragging about how little they value female opinions/abilities/desires is bascially how many of them bond with each o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:07 AM
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I'd only want that test if I didn't trust them to not cheat or not be an abuser. I'd need actual reasons to suspect him of abuse before taking it I would not ask the government to force all men to go through the test I would accept that the husband, if not a cheater or abuser, would be insulted that I don't trust him at all, and may want a divorce if he found out about the test
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:46 PM
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apologies for saying "treat", i should have said "care about". Don't know the way you treat others, all I said is that you were right, it's true i hadn't considered you "could be offended and bitter that others care about you the same way you care about others"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:37 PM
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I assumed you think "you cared about women as people", and that's why you sounded so offended over "women don't care about men as people". but you're right, sorry for assuming. ofc you could be offended and bitter about others treating you the same way you treat others.. I forget that certain PPD men do have peter pan i'm so special syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:02 AM
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No, incorrect. You are confused, YOUR entire post are assumptions that aren't even true. I don't see any sources for "men care about women as people but women don't care about men as people" lol. Unlike your post, I can point to the comment section of this thread where PPD guys are talking about fucking fembots and their reddit comment history with the exact behavior I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:48 AM
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Is the pity fest really necessary? or believable at this point? The same guys on PPD who pretend that they "care about women as people, but women don't care about men as people" are in the "pity me I'm such a good boy" sad mood of their tantrum. In their angry mood, they'll be in the next thread saying women are naturally inferior, how little value we have, and that we're objects only good for sex or domestic servant work are we really supposed to take the "pity me" mood seriously, when most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:36 PM
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And women's physical or sexual attraction is evil because women bad, men breaking rules for hot women they wanna fuck and gets their dick hard, that's okay because men good, etc. etc. etc etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:48 AM
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If 6'4" 250lb male stranger with a lot of muscle or anger issues was being an idiot or an asshole about something, would you tell him that in a "brutally honest" way? people don't pick battles they can't win, even if they're right. Or maybe they tried once and then the guy followed them around muttering "bitch ill kill you!! ill kill you!" and then sent them unhinged angry paragraph texts for a week. and then they don't do it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:36 AM
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I'm just saying it's more common for women to have to white lie to a man in cases where we don't feel safe around him, than vice versa. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:24 AM
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women are not gaslighting unattractive men into thinking they have character flaws en masse. for example, I think you're disagreeable and unpleasant and making up shit to be mad at. I mean that sincerely, I am not gaslighting, and I have no idea if you're attractive or unattractive physically. Give me stats or evidence that's happening in any significant amount. and let's throw in, give me evidence that women gaslight about men's character more than men gaslight about women's character. I've lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:22 AM
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It's easy to be honest to someone you aren't afraid of and look down upon It's less easy to be honest to someone who is bigger, more aggressive, more persistent, and may lash out at you if they get unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:07 AM
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cool ability, is "seeing" in this context the same as "projecting" into other realities
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:50 AM
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Very weird condition that women need to slutshame men and withhold commitment, for you to pick the average woman over the supermodel, but every preference is valid anyway so.. whatever floats your boat
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:48 AM
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Exactly right? let's not lie to ourselves lol. Location matters a ton. Even in the US your success as a redpiller will vary. Hating women is not a death sentence for your dating life. I'm not going to pretend that being a flagrant redpill, even to the extreme "women are property" sexist, is gonna affect your prospects in certain places in southeast asia or Saudi Arabia. like cmon
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:42 AM
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lots of men don't mind saying honestly, in public, "I'm only nice to that broad because she has nice tits" and "I'm not giving up my seat on the subway to some ugly old bitch". Less women would say that, in case the man hearing would lose his shit and snap. We are more afraid of making men uncomfortable, than men are afraid of making women uncomfortable I tell white lies to men all the time irl, because I'm socialized that way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:39 AM
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Cynically speaking, I'd say their success depends on the supply of golddiggers who don't mind abuse for $ and on the supply of self hating, low self esteem, young girls with daddy issues. the kind who normalized abuse or neglect from their dads and desperately want older abusive male validation. If the supply of abusive sexist redpill Tate worshippers overtakes that supply, it won't work as well. In some locations, conservative redpill men have to disguise themselves as gym-going, liberal bluepi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:14 AM
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you invented a "mistreated" narrative out of nowhere for this random guy, why? Are you her ex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:52 AM
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You say that, but the saying, "don't listen to what they say, look at what men do", applies here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:50 AM
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let's just say the thing RP men think but many don't want to say out loud. They want to judge/coerce/shame/coerce women who don't go for boring average looking trad men, but they'll never do that to men who don't go for average looking trad women. just wishing some RP men can be honest. why do they always lie and make up BS reasons why they should be special but women should be judged/coerced/shamed? Is it because their whole "pity poor me" act will look less believable if they say "I can do thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:52 AM
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Sounds like you dodged a bullet or two. Bad luck, or maybe you're still young and young early 20s can be judgy and immature, or you have a "type" and keep picking a certain type of girl
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:34 PM
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Ok sister. take your ass to the "dating bad boys" thread and see how many people are saying "some women". if you just want to be offended and bitchy go ahead lol. peace out bye
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:28 PM
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Sis, we acknowledge that shit everyday. Idk who is here saying no women do dumb shit. Who is saying "zero women", it's always been "some women" who are dumb/gullible/horny/selfish, just like "some men" are violent/stupid/useless/selfish/losers. You pretend that's all you want, but you have it and you just aren't happy with it. Cause you're emotional and petty and whiny. you know deep down that's true, that's why you imagine strawman on the internet so you have something to get offended at. all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:35 AM
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it's all fake ragebait, I don't think I know a single woman who would care that much lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:34 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:31 AM
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Yep lol, they totally are. they wish their imagination and feelings > science 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:23 AM
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lmao, be real. You're so obvious. You don't want to hear us agree with your complaining about "some women", because we've been fking saying "some women", you want us to say "most women" or "all women" + whatever data lacking BS complaint you have. How about this - I'll agree that "most women date bad boys", if you agree that "most men are whiny, lazy NEET losers" or "most men are useless manchildren". if you deny and get emotional and pissy, since only women get emotional when criticized, it mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:25 AM
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does my rhetoric offend you? cuz it seems like you tried to go in for some personal, sassy little snubbing lol. If you got an actual point to make or a problem w me, you should come out and say it instead of acting like a lil yknow
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:01 AM
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The data does not lol. Median number of sexual partners is about the same for men and women. 80% of 30+ men will marry, out of the 20% that don't, many don't want to, and many of them will still have or had relationships. Only a miniscule percentage of men will be completely sexless virgins certain guys here on PPD, OP included, like to pretend their personal problems are their entire gender's problems. They want to pretend the antisocial sexless friendless virgin experience is the same for all …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:38 AM
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I've seen this before, OP creates some ridiculously extreme strawmen like "no women likes casual sex" on purpose, then pretends disproving his fake, intentionally wrong bullshit is evidence for the extreme opposite of that strawman. So he can start bitching that most or all women are whores or whatever It's not, it's so obviously stupid and no one with more than two brain cells will take him seriously but.... if we're going to be shaming people who have casual sex, men are obviously the problem …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:19 AM
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Of course it's BS. They can't fool us, but they're really here to convince themselves, maybe shit on women a bit, punch down, feel better about themselves, circlejerk with other smooth brains, etc. Typically, every bitchy pilled PPD male's first piece of "evidence" for the 80/20 rule is their own hyperactive imagination. See a couple males in this thread, working themselves up with their own elaborate, extreme "evil women" delusional fantasies and getting all pissy about it. Their second source …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:15 AM
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they really should stay single. the cringe is out of this world must be so easy to call others selfish when they think they're the only ones that matter. I wish i had that mentality, I'd hear some men died and then think "you know what's just as BAD??? I'm SINGLE RIGHT NOW!!" life would so much easier with that attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:19 PM
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wow. how do I learn to say stuff like this? I need to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:10 PM
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very reasonable.. this is why I always offer to split
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:04 AM
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I mean this sincerely, guys here and you especially are an inspiration in putting yourselves first. No matter the situation, they can always twist it to be about them. I need to learn how to love and prioritize myself the way PPD men do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:13 AM
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Exactly, that's their attitude. women are burdens, servants, baby factories, family caretakers and sex objects in chinese culture. To PPD men, let's ignore the wider system, concentrate on a very small number of young, pretty, social media-savvy women who can thrive in it. They use their sex appeal for a better life, and that's unacceptable!! think of the horny men who can't fuck them!! A small number of women do well and play up their appeal as objects, and i can't fuck them!! that seems to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:07 PM
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Nope, he is clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:28 PM
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Not right now. my family moved to America. i still have a lot of extended family there. I get it though. a system can devalue and control women, pissy men still malding over a tiny subsection of pretty young rich city girls with high standards and princess syndrome. like THAT defines womens issues in china lol, the high standards of the prettiest douyin girls lol. that's their focus Not that this culture has such a strong preference for sons, a ton of parents abort, abandon, leave infant daughte…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 10:18 AM
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they prioritize their emotions by prioritizing their emotions lol. I would give more examples, but I'd hate to be dragged into a conversation with a bad faith PPD male supremacist who will 1. move goalposts 2. not believe anything 3. start getting emotional and bitchy at me. so I'll pass
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:02 AM
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As a chinese person, you have no idea what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:50 AM
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LOL ofc they do. A lot of men are narcissists and always push for their hurt ego to be priority #1. you can't do anything bc of the threat of intimidation and physical violence. my male family members throw and kick and break stuff during arguments. after spending 10seconds apologizing for the property damage and physical intimidation, they spend the next hour saying i'm the bad guy for "guilting" them by crying, namecalling and how hurtful the phrase "like a maniac" is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:19 PM
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They go full red pill and spend all day bitching on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:14 AM
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maybe those men don't prioritize female feelings but they definitely will prioritize their own or male feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:57 PM
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see that Yuka yandere girl who stabbed some guy in the stomach and then got an online army of simps. It's just that less people mald over men simping for hot dangerous criminal women, and there's less violent criminal women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:07 AM
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I'm just mocking the OP. that guy was like, why not "indulge in feminine affairs" if you're gonna tell me to fuck off, tell OP to fuck off too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:49 AM
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OP is right, older "single" men who are risky, emotionally avoidant, can't "pair bond" so to speak, bad partners, should be warning those unaware partners. They need to be vocal so they don't end up ruining some poor woman's life. If you feel like you settled, your heart's not in it, or want to indulge in the masculine urge to cheat and have affairs, you should definitely tell her how you really feel
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:07 AM
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I'm sure you know all your friends insta activity lol. surprised that a redpiller wouldn't keep friends with redpill fuckboys who into PUA plate spinning and negging and pickup artistry stuff. don't birds of a feather flock together? so true, fuckboys only do it to bad women who totally knew they were fuckboys and love them for it. so that's cool really. Women who do it though, for men who love them, a lot... that's so offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:55 AM
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you already do lol. Have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:46 PM
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Well, that's certainly your opinion. most guys here would disagree with you though, they constantly say looks and youth are the most important things for women. In my experience, the 6 guy going for the less attractive but kind 5 girl is extremely rare (unless he's using her as a doormat while DMing the difficult 8 girl hoping to monkey branch) lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:47 AM
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Most men (a 6 let's say) would not fuck, date, or marry a bitchy, difficult, 5 or 6. Most men would fuck, date, or marry a kind, 5 or 6. you really believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:21 AM
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how would you know? I doubt many guys tell their male friends how often they strike out with insta models or influencers or e-girls. complaining about "settling while being horny for hotter partners" behavior sounds like ridiculous projection to me. we all know guys are hornier, take more risks, big chunk of yall think women are a little less human than them, why wouldn't guys be doing that more often? i can promise you if you have a decent number of friends, a couple settled for some gal whose …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:02 AM
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Wow, you're right. I'm completely convinced I'm wrong now. Apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:40 AM
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Thanks for being one of the good ones too, then! happy friday lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:30 PM
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Men do the same thing you find offensive in women. Given how much more sexual men are, and how much less shame they get, men do this way more than women do. When young, they look for the hottest/youngest/highest status partner without considering morals. then they age poorly, bald or get wrinkly and pudgy, then they settle for whoever they can get. can we be completely honest and transparent? it's not that that behavior is bad. it's that women are lower in the hierarchy than men, if they attempt…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:29 PM
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You don't know what feminism is. But that's okay, for some bitter, perpetually pissed off PPD men, it's basically some catch all evil boogeyman. I'm a feminist, and I don't feel "wronged" if someone rejects me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:58 PM
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Not for me personally, he'd be a better fit for other women who have a similar lifestyle. I would politely decline. And no disrespect given, no mentioning he's an used up whore, no dehumanizing language, like what a PPD man would've said in my position
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:50 PM
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So I'm hearing, you don't have the context and you probably embellished, exaggerated and made stuff up. initially, you never gave any indication that those examples personally happened to YOU and gave zero context on how each situation happened. You're the one with a terrible, disagreeable attitude. if you want to be believed, try being a more pleasant person who actually gives the full story. you really do not deserve to be believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:01 PM
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all I saw was cherrypicked, bitchy, campy statements with ZERO context. why not clarify that it happened to you, who were the valley girls involved, and add context on how each situation arose? without additional embellishments and exaggerations please.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:40 AM
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What I'm hearing is, if men's trust issues are so important that women's reactions to those accusations are "red flags", women need to get in on this as well. Let this go both ways. off the top of my head, we could regularly test our long term male partners for the following - criminal background check, STD panel, sex offender registry check, work references, credit score check, psychological evaluation...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:31 AM
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OP I cannot take you and the petulant manchildren on PPD seriously. I get being judgy of someone's bad partner choices, I don't get the multiple paragraph essays recurring on PPD and screaming into the void about how all women suck, reaction to it. If a woman is less fuckable to you bc of her dating history, because she's "used goods" by being abused by a bad boy, you are not forced to date her. you are not impacted by whether she is fuckable, dateable, or presentable to you. If a woman is less …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:45 AM
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well wow. if made up criticism, written in the way you think women talk (campy, bitchy, sassy), are your best examples, I believe you even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:48 AM
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How are we supposed to believe you're evaluating the situation fairly if you won't even provide one example in the post? give a damn example lol. I believe the average man. I don't believe anyone who shows signs of internet mindrot. if someone believes unironically in the extremes of pure saintlike men and obese whore women, I stop believing him where's the proof that this is a "all men" problem and not a "bitchy internet misogynist" problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:28 PM
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not murdering your partner is part of the "bare minimum". not being a serial killer is part of the "bare minimum". Yet some crazy women simp for Ted Bundy and some crazy men simp for that yandere Yuka girl who stabbed her bf in the stomach Bc the world is a big place. general trends exist for the majority of us 8 billion people bcmost people like being respected, treated nice, and not beaten and murdered. are you gonna find that there's a minority of low esteem, pain loving suicidal idiots? also…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:04 AM
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OP can you at least define being nice? do you volunteer at homeless shelters, foster rescue animals, actually do stuff for your community? Everytime someone brags about being nice, it just sounds like them outing themselves that they're not usually nice. and it takes serious effort for them to be a normal, polite, well adjusted person and they expect rewards for not actively harming anyone at the moment. imagine telling a coworker "now we must be friends, since I was nice to you" or a potential …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:51 PM
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Cool, then send this Like, this is actually why women love astrology shit so much... The ugly dude you don't want to fuck? He's Virgo! That's why you feel so off about him, his vibe you know... The dude you wanna fuck so bad? Oh my Gosh he's Leo, you always mesh so well with Leos, they are pure fire!!! The hot toxic jerk with a big dick who cheated and lied to you and who you do not want to take accountability for choosing despite he was a living single fucking red flag all over the place? He wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:24 AM
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are you seeing, or are you having some kind of wish fulfillment fever dream? literally fantasizing about a back and forth with a fictional straw woman who loves astrology and toxic men like it's some crime.. as if certain men aren't equally annoying about fake wolf science or barely legal girls. maybe you've been looking for the ideal woman target to lecture and rant to, but you don't befriend many women irl to actually know their dating histories or hobbies, even if you could, you know they'd i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:48 PM
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Haha mhmmm wow, wow wow wow..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:26 AM
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exactly...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:38 AM
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If men are on average, more sexual, more violent, and more physically strong than women, why wouldn't the male version of this scenario be more sexually deviant or more criminal? Women commit paternity fraud at about 1-2% of the population. About 1-4% of the male population are pedophiles. The maggot tier of mankind on PPD has no trouble painting women as golddigging sluts, but will clutch their pearls when women mention crime statistics are what they are. you cannot have their "let's generalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:30 AM
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I really doubt that. After seeing a couple messy relationships among my friends, I've stopped trusting the people who pretend a minor argument around the end of the relationship was the only issue that caused them to break up and their ex is "crazy". Most people don't dump their 2+ year serious relationship for no reason. it's almost always a pattern of disrespect and prioritizing themself, their free time, or their feelings over their partner's. Trust me that certain guys are lying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:47 PM
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Antisemitism is unfair and BLM has failed to address it. I can't believe a movement focusing on police being racist toward black people, hasn't fixed totally unrelated issues affecting Jews. OP, this is how you sound
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:42 AM
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PPD is funny sometimes... women should listen that men think we're only good for fucking, as long as the tone is critical of women, but not repeat it ourselves because if we say it, it might be critical of men. interesting how this post is addressed to women instead of to other men. We're the problem here, as usual. Hey OP it is mostly your fellow men telling us that women are only valued for sex by men, and we're worthless otherwise. Most women wouldn't reach that conclusion on our own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:11 AM
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If we normalize, subsidize, and paint women as untrustworthy, men should have the same done to them. After all, women take on more risk to their bodies, livelihood, and safety if they make kids with a deadbeat, cheater or abuser why not have the government give every pregnant woman a free, subsidized background check report of their partner. it could include a full STD panel, credit score check, ensure the man isn't a criminal, sex offender
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:48 AM
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Lol, i would be pretty gullible to believe an internet racist who says he only shits on black people on the internet so he can be extra nice to them irl. Aren't you the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:19 AM
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by studies and stats, your own personal experiences with meeting a decent number of women, or by your imagination? Only the first one should be taken seriously, and the latter one (which i'm guessing is your case) is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:38 PM
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Yep, everything men do is demonized by women. Sports? Cereal first and then milk? Liking tea more than coffee? Pineapple on pizza? Hated by women immediately. Either all women suck, or we shouldn't be listening to a bitter guy who thinks the evidence you need to generalize about 4 billion people is vague, victimhood fantasies generated with his active imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:38 PM
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I appreciate the attempt to gaslight me on that. had a good laugh. later lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:01 AM
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I appreciate you being honest about your character. at least you're not like the other faux victim males on PPD. One moment, preaching male gender supremacy and that women should be lied to and manipulated, then going feminism hurt me!!! wahhh!!! like a flopping soccer player
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:22 PM
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every racist is bad, and every red pill male is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:20 PM
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My friends are mature, reasonable, educated people, they don't shit talk people for no reason. Of course I value their opinions. but i'm definitely not bombarding them or oversharing in the anxious, immature, oversensitive way you described though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:54 AM
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Yep, dump her OP I honestly don't fault someone for going a little bit "men/women are pigs/hoes/bitches" after being cheated on or abused lol. As long as you keep your sanity, don't let it consume you, and get out the phase without hurting anyone... also remember most people don't want to play therapist for their partner's issues with his/her exes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:08 AM
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How do you define being superior? being physically stronger? having more political representation? being able to intimidate others with a history of past oppression or humiliation? being part of a well connected collective of people who are typically on the top of the hierarchy, socioeconomically? having more cultural influence, more role models, more easily spread negative stereotypes about others being shallow, emotional, lazy, neurotic liars, more easily believed by other men who are typicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:26 AM
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How so? Incel losers still feel superior to women on account of being men. women are the domestic servant bangmaid underclass in their worldview. it's not by accident that they consistently bring up their culture's shittiest stereotypes and double standards about women, instead of studies and data. They want women to feel hurt, pain, insecure, humiliation about being lesser and fear. even if some of us haven't been culturally conditioned to cater to men, we will still fear men's spite, hatred an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:15 PM
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Same old AWALT bullshit. based on one random lady's ideas, one reddit comment, and OP's issues with women. Both of us know OP, with such a low standard for evidence and the same bullshit reasoning, the same AMALT can be said of men lol. OP if you are searching for reasons to hate on us, you do not have to date women. just like men-hating women don't have to date men. why not set yourself free and go MGTOW? you could pick up a hobby, adopt a dog, play music, instead of using your free time to pun…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:40 AM
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Because most men are not into the idea, despite what some of them say on reddit. We know what kind of content actually gets engagement from dudes, it's multiple gfs, money, partying and sports cars. That's fine and all, who cares, assuming everyone's aware and willing and no ones being raped by some chinless bald sex trafficker. but certain guys here need to shut up and stop speaking for all men. the portrayal of all men being loyal, desperate, lonely, and wanting nothing more than to be loyal t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:54 AM
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I'm not going to bother anymore. You seem keen on intentionally misinterpreting my comments and bringing up useless anecdotal stories about naive women. thanks for the wall of text, but I'd prefer to not engage anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:44 AM
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don't get it twisted... feminism or egalitarianism does not need to be better for everyone. the civil rights movement was not better for the white racists who wanted the blacks to suffer, and feminism will not be good for the women bashing incels who want brainwashed, self hating women to fuck them and accept control, shame, abuse and humiliation. if a society could only function if women are viewed as lesser inferior beings who needed to be controlled, from an unbrainwashed woman's perspective …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:06 AM
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I have no idea what your point is...? I hope we're not going to discuss hyperbolic strawmen. it's an overused tactic by redpillers here to shut down discussion disingenuously To clarify - I don't believe it's hardwired into their brains biologically, it's that some men are taught by those around them to think or act that way. It's indoctrination by their trad parents or trad culture, that women are their inferiors, their sex conquests, baby makers, and domestic servants. that by virtue of their …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:17 AM
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It is time we need to bring up that RPers that often believe in "unjust world fallacy". Normal people might believe the world is sometimes just or unjust, sensible or absurd, but most people tend to have self respect and self preservation and most women will cut contact with you if you behave "unjustly" to them. But in Unjust World Fallacy, if you treat women like shit and they avoid you, it clearly means one thing -- that you didn't treat them like shit hard enough, or it is ALWAYS your looks o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:44 AM
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Yes, those are your own words. didn't you say you don't trust victimhood complex men? then you're a victim of feminism being imposed on you... Nevermind, guess you aren't all that consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:45 AM
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victimhood narrative that men try to sell women it's typically women who want to impose feminism on men, and who succeed at doing so. Aren't you proving me right? looks like a victimhood complex you are trying to sell me. But the victimhood complex is men thinking gender equality is "imposing" on them And I don't buy it. I know victimhood complex men cannot be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:40 AM
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Yes I want to "impose" feminism and equality, just like POC want to "impose" racial equality. Many redpill guys view women as some kind of lesser domestic servant whose wants or opinions come second to men. It scares me a bit that redpill is mainstream I hope we are, but I don't think we're succeeding lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:30 AM
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Don't understand how you're flaired red pill then, but kudos for trying to be consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:45 PM
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What about the victimhood narrative that men try to sell women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:42 PM
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In which ways? culturally I thought we still have some male favoritism and a lot of guys, judging from this sub, view women as some kind of lesser servant underclass
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:17 AM
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sure OP, you see that some women saying those things and lashing out, but I don't think you see the context.. that many of us start off being told how much women need men. you're telling us what we have worried about, subconsciously or consciously since childhood. Maybe it's explicit in some trad culture conditioning that we are lesser than men, and need to attach ourselves to them to have purpose or worth, and produce (preferably male) offspring. Maybe it's biology too that fucked us women from…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:51 PM
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Nearly every bully has a group of asshole male friends. Don't men tend to reward that kind of behavior as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:03 AM
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No. Some women and some men seem to gravitate towards those types though. I'm rather scared of guys like that. But some women are bullies themselves or naive. I have enough experience with violent men to know they won't make exceptions for anyone even the wife and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:00 AM
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Lol i'm late 20s, old lady here. Boo streetwear.. I like the cardigans
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:13 AM
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OP, how often do you get called creepy? How does it happen so often and cause you this much stress and anxiety? I get that some people are immature and rude and might call someone trying to be respectful, creepy. But if you are getting "creepy" ALL the time, from typically reasonable, mature adults, I bet there is good reason they find you creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:26 AM
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what's wrong with cardigans :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:26 AM
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most women do not say that. it's certain men here who are the neurotic ones. They hear someone say "let the woman feel safe or comfortable rejecting you, don't hit on women at night, or as their boss" and then have a stroke and go "never hit on women in public ever!!!" What a childish, anxious, emotional, hysterical and neurotic reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:58 AM
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Wow. I wish I had the self confidence to tell a man, time for you to quit your job after I hit on you and you refused to date me. It's so audacious and entitled, it's honestly impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:16 AM
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pretty sure you're projecting. there are more sexually frustrated men trying to whore around than women. young men are the ones begging for casual sex on the apps and trying to ride the pussy carousel. why not ask wannabe fuckboy men to "better society" and settle down and marry a "nice" girl without being shallow about looks? it just comes down to yall thinking you're more important than women and women should be the ones judged and blamed for this nonsense, but not you. but good luck gaslighti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:24 AM
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agreed. the experiences of average, socially adjusted people reflect dating in today's society. A lot of autistic people here think their experience is the norm, when it's not. There is no shame in being autistic or very socially isolated, but it can't speak for most people. And it muddles the conversation with a ton of miscommunication. If you give generic advice to an autistic person here, they seem to assume stuff like "this will work for ALL women right, no matter what other negative factors…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:41 PM
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Not that much people know Depp is a pedophile apologist with a history of violence, physical assault of people on set and at bars, and destroying property. also total diva to work with apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:02 AM
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I'll quit it when people prove me wrong with reasons instead of just making sassy, bitchy assertions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:07 AM
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The biological difference matches in this case too. A man will always know that in a physical, unarmed fight with his wife, he will win 99% of the time. A woman should be armed to make it a fair fight too right? Would you not be offended that your wife doesn't trust you and carries a "knife or heavy object" for self defense when you are around
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:48 AM
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Sounds like you're not unstable and have no issues and women should be completely safe around you. Well, pretty good case for this thread that getting murdered by your husband is a reasonable fear
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:25 AM
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Well, sometimes responding isn't even worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:21 AM
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If you're not potentially a danger to your wife, why wouldn't you be okay with her having mace and a taser on hand whenever you're in her vicinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:20 AM
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Exactly, if she accuses you of being a wifebeater and takes actions showing how little she trusts you, you would divorce her. Similarly many women would divorce their husband if they accuse them of paternity fraud and cheating. Aren't you taking that position: that accusations of paternity fraud shouldn't be offensive to women, but you'd find accusations of potentially beating or killing your wife offensive? Yeah many women would do everything in their power to prove they love their partners and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:18 AM
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If living in separate houses and her keeping pepper spray within reach when you're around is enough to ruin a relationship, then maybe it should be ruined? And it reinforces the need for living in separate houses and for her to have pepper spray whenever you're close. I don't understand why an accusation of serious bodily harm or deceit is only okay for paternity tests. You sound like you'd be offended that your wife doesn't trust you wouldn't hurt her physically. So why would it not be offensiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:52 AM
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up to you. different people react differently and if you were under enough stress and had gone through a huge life sacrifice, I wonder if you'd truly feel that way if the time comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:20 AM
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Whether you have the right to get a paternity test and whether you can police someone's hurt feelings towards being accused is 2 separate things. you have the right to sue your friend if you think they stole from you. but if they're innocent it's entirely understandable they cut off contact and ice you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:18 AM
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Funny you call us narcissists and lacking empathy, you demonstrated completely zero empathy for women. You can't even say a single sentence saying you can understand it hurts being accused if you are innocent especially after as big a sacrifice as pregnancy. But you sure have fun diagnosing people with "narcissism" from your high horse I wonder if you're the kind of person who will accuse their close friend of stealing from your place bc something's missing and if they're innocent, start policin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:01 AM
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sorry bud. You can write a billion paragraphs and repeat "you're so self centered" a billion times but you don't get to dictate how someone should feel when you accuse an innocent person of cheating while they are feeling extremely vulnerable after making huge sacrifices Maybe you'll be hit by karma and be put in our shoes. you'll be feeling vulnerable, sick, at your weakest moment, just sacrificed something big like a partial organ donation for your sick kid. Maybe you've been overworking to su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:58 AM
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Yes, yes the science is fantastic. And you are already able to use it as much as you like. You can force a paternity test of any kid you think may or may not be yours. But you can't force how women will respond to it. If my partner accused me of cheating during the most vulnerable, stressful, painful period of my life, during which I am disproportionately sacrificing my health and career to start our family, I would divorce him on the spot. His feelings that I'm not dependable or trustworthy are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:53 AM
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Idk if it's the "highest form of abuse", that sounds like a serious exaggeration lol. Why not compare it to an actual equivalent situation and see if you would divorce your hypothetical wife if the tables turned? Let's say you're in the middle of donating bone marrow or part of your liver to your sick child (making it similar to pregnancy). And while you're stressed and risking your health for your family, your wife accused you of fathering a secret family with the maid behind her back, and insi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:49 AM
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Ok. sure I am. whatever to get you to stop talking to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:48 AM
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Cringe...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:10 AM
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Actually yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:14 PM
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Sorry, what do you mean? I'm with you bro, I hate the females too lmao. I'm definitely not concern trolling here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:11 PM
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Mhmm totallly. you are right. That's horribbllee
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:22 PM
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Better yet, we can completely avoid them. All women suck amirite
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:21 PM
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oh come on I'm just saying it's very rare. lets be real most men or women are not attracted to people their parent's age. You don't need to bring gender into it. most of the time you see some early 20s person with a partner their parent's age, it's a sugar baby or gold digger situation or that kid has some serious issues
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:03 PM
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Lol, exactly. And the POS on the internet is a POS in person. will still mock and belittle and try to hurt women to feed their egos, if put in a situation where they can do so w/ no social consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:56 PM
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Don't gaslight me lol, it's the complete opposite. who gets more internet and irl hate from the opposite gender -- a fat woman or a promiscuous woman or an ugly woman compared to a fat man or fuckboy or ugly man? if a girl is an escort or sex worker, so many guys can't just walk past or say "not for me". They need her and everyone to know "slut!!! whore!!! ran through!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:08 PM
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Well...they could also have crippling self esteem or father abandonment issues. Or be in an arranged marriage in certain cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:04 PM
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In ~90% of his cold approaches I don't think he's being rude, he backs off quick and doesn't harass them for saying no. But I do think he's setting himself up for failure intentionally for clicks in many of those examples.. some people are literally speedwalking with their headphones in before he talks to them. Also he talks like he's trying to sell people something
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:55 PM
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nah maybe it's better to follow your logic and say all women AND all men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:32 PM
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Why, that some people are mean to ugly people? you don't think some men like to go out of their way to humiliate, insult and hurt unattractive women lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:31 PM
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I disagree, women are really honest here on PPD. We get a lot of hate and verbal abuse thrown at us for being honest. which is why I only feel safe being honest to men anonymously and never with my name attached to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:40 AM
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I've had first dates where I thought, if they changed a bit - had more self confidence, or were less conceited, or got rid of the stutter, or weren't balding, or got their crooked teeth fixed, if they didn't lie about their height, or if they needed to wear deodorant or wore nicer/cleaner/more appropriate clothes - I might date them. Sometimes I wondered should I tell them? I asked (normal) guys about this and they all said no and are you crazy. Most guys know their insecurities well without my …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:36 AM
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while we should discuss how to make housework and childcare more equal and less gendered. this is a bit much. I think it's unfair sure. but doesn't mean one gender brings nothing to the table OP take your ass to therapy :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:36 AM
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Oh come on. There is no blue pill. "Bluepill" is a loose collection of advice and statements meant to cheer you up, made by confused, polite, well meaning family or random strangers. I'm reading your descriptions and it sounds like you think people can choose only extremes, "bluepill" or redpill, and only one can be true. A lot of guys do this here and it's so obvious. Their made up "bluepill" strawman isn't true, so redpill has to be true. Most people will see this as the bullshit tactic that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:09 AM
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interesting, are you a postdoc or a PhD student? you sound so smart lol. which university?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:28 AM
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Either you're slow, or you're disingenuous, in either case you're not worth talking to. So byyeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:27 PM
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Make sure people know you're fully joking not half joking or serious. I meet people like that sometimes and for my own sanity I stay away. its not worth the effort or safety to figure out if they partially mean it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:21 PM
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I was pretty clear about where. If you need to go back and read go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:50 PM
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That isn't "research", it's some random person's editorial. and OP's BS claim is nowhere in this editorial
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:44 PM
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ofc it would be better if dateless depressed men and sexually abused lashing out women got therapy. idk if you're exaggerating to make a point, but I know automatically you aren't arguing in good faith if you say TwoX is "just as hateful" as TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:58 AM
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you're not, I am. I'm giving better advice to abusers on how to find doormat women to abuse. this might be useful, since hypothetically, a large chunk of PPD men may hate women, would abuse us if they got the chance and wouldn't mind hurting women for selfish reasons... I may as well give them the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:40 AM
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My point: Man gets played -> treats women badly or "accordingly" -> woman gets played -> treats man badly.... obviously this silly cycle could have been started with a man hurting a woman. OP is desperate to blame women for this even though he knows it's bullshit and could be easily flipped You proving it: It’s a cycle as I’ve said where the root cause is women’s treatment of men. Go read my comment carefully and stop thinking everything is an attack on men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:19 AM
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Not that true, I know acquaintances with significant childhood trauma and abusive men seek them out intentionally. one I know who was placed in a couple foster homes, the other whose dad died when she was young. Both are complete doormats for their boyfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:07 PM
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Man gets played -> treats women badly or "accordingly" -> woman gets played -> treats man badly.... obviously this silly cycle could have been started with a man hurting a woman. OP is desperate to blame women for this even though he knows it's bullshit and could be easily flipped. And maybe it should? All metrics of marital cheating, sexual assault, rape, and violent physical abuse, shows that men hurting women MORE than the other way around. But why aren't women making "redpill-pill" subreddit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:04 PM
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If I have to make up a number from my personal experience, 1-2% who are real red flags, maybe 5-10% who are yellow flags. depends on environment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:57 AM
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That's true. works for both men and women. if you expect to be approached, you better be hot enough to be approached
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:43 AM
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Hard agree. I hate that stupid app and all the kids on it. The manosphere, their female equivalent, the conspiracy tiktoks, the bizarre echo chambers for girls to stay inside and become full on NEETs to avoid sun damage to their skin, the "transracial" weeb teens, all of them need to seek help and we need to burn TikTok to the ground
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:32 AM
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That is already happening though. that's my whole point. if we do what you say, nothing changes. For women to have more interest, there needs to be more reason for that interest. the amount of approaching depends on the amount of guys who are actually appealing to women. If guys were sweet protective himbos with a banging bod who dresses well, puts us first, and prioritizes our orgasms in bed, women would be actively approaching and locking guys down. most of us aren't going to fake interest for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:01 AM
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women are more passive I agree. but a lot of men don't really work on themselves to be so attractive women really want to approach. If you have never been approached, why? the men who don't dress or exercise to impress women, aren't sweet or caring or make us feel safe to be around you, and have a belligerent and disagreeable attitude, need to think why they have NEVER been approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 09:52 PM
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Cool, I'll go right away. Do you have a portal to your mind that I can use? It seems like most of the imaginary feminists who ARE saying "glancing at women is sexual assault" are living there, rent free
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:16 PM
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"blue pill" does not exist. there is no blue pill, just a loose collection of confused randos who have no idea what you're talking about. depending on the person, they give you generic advice or try to cheer you up to be polite. Or they glance you over, make some assumptions about you, and tell you to fix something. you assume everyone's speaking in generalities about society and gender, but the average rando BP likely has no clue. did not intend to say ALL men need to fix themselves, they likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:58 PM
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Why would I take it up with feminists who aren't saying those things, and not the clearly bad faith guy making shit up to blame on feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:54 AM
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Stop strawmanning women and stop strawmanning feminism. I am a feminist and I don't say or believe the "all men are predators and glancing at women is sexual assault" nonsense you put in our mouths.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:02 AM
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I do not trust OP and I don't think it's fair for you to throw strawman exaggerations at women discussing their concerns. Very few women say shit like "all men are rapists and predators and glancing at women is sexual assault" when they are discussing sexual assault or harassment. I wonder if the guys like OP are intentionally strawmanning women who discuss those things. many guys here on PPD have a one sided worldview here that only men suffer and women never do, so if a woman actually does suf…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:03 PM
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Idk if she's being "inappropriate", she may be awkward and conflict averse. Better luck next time, OP. also do you think she noticed you watching her leave her house, for a week? staring at someone through a window can make that person feel rather unsafe
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:49 AM
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So true. RP guys, just wait to date until you're 30+. Trust OP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:16 AM
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Yikes lol, calm down w/ your one sided nonsense. bitch all you want about the dating apps, those things are literally 80% men and 20% women and many of the women are scammers and bots. Idk why you think women are the ones ruining the world's family and marriage institutes, and causing all the divorces - just bc we file the paperwork doesn't mean we were at fault. married men cheat more than married women. married men also violently physically abuse women more than vice versa. 50% of divorced wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:12 PM
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Have you considered that 1. you are a delusional bitter asshole most of the time, and do "barely nice" things very rarely and only to pressure people to fuck you, or 2. other factors about you, such as your looks/lack of ambition/social ineptitude, and not your niceness, are turning women off?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:03 AM
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Idk if it's a trend, but I've noticed my friends' younger sisters, teenage and college aged girls, to be more guarded, more careful and fearful around guys than when I was that age. their generations version of misogyny inspires more caution and fear maybe. as a millennial, boys my age weren't worshipping rapists who brag online about raping women. more "quiet smug superiority" and less "conspire with other insecure men to hurt women to feel better"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:24 AM
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Well wow. This is the kind of bullshit fantasy that people with no social contact with normal people believe. How many normal sociable average people do you know, keep in contact with, have as close friends? How many normal, equally matched in looks and income, couple friends do you have? Let me guess, you have very little data. instead of looking around at your ~200 acquaintances from college, 2-3 social groups of ~5-10 people, and a number of close friends, you just make shit up in your head. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:26 AM
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Ok, if you are 100% sure this is happening.. you are free to create programs or clubs or youth sports of just boys if you want. Idk if all boys need this. vast majority of guys who went to coed public schools where there were girls around largely turned out normal, social, well adjusted PPD people have a bad habit of inventing extreme theories with no data but anecdotes. I would agree that some kids are shy and awkward and need to brought out of their shells more. maybe extra outdoor activities …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:47 PM
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first of all, generally people move the fuck on if someone doesn't match your preferences instead of getting on a podium bitch moaning about how the world doesn't cater to their puritanical values. the fact that you can't do that is shows you're a narcissist who overvalues your opinion. You have negative value to me, why would I care if you see me or other women as devalued? And lol. I've already said it, I don't want to compete in this stupid competition. Not only do I not want to compete, if I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:57 AM
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No. Why would a human person compete with an object on who can be a better object for a guy who just wants an object
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:57 AM
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While I think having older male role models is great for guys, isn't a lot what you said way over the top? If no girls were around, why wouldn't teenage menace "Chad Jr" still bully "Billy Beta Jr" (sorry these names are so cringe), because he thinks status or stealing stuff or hurting someone is fun? Most bullying happens within the same gender and there's plenty of bullying at single gender schools. boys will find reasons to bully with or without girls. sure I want all girls programs too, I pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:43 AM
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willing to back off from this topic. I'm from an immigrant culture w/ some sexist cultural norms and it might not be normal for many households in the west. obviously I'm getting too personal and it's coloring my perspective. i still think there is a difference in household labor still but it has greatly improved to before
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:26 AM
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Sure, why not? also gender conformity that ends up being toxic to others and self destructive. We could call that "toxic femininity", sure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:08 AM
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do they? I know I'll be taking out more trash and doing more dishes and getting crumbs and dirt and clothes off the floor and doing more laundry and cooking thankless meals when my brother or dad come over. asking for them to do their part will get you ignored or a half assed 2 minute effort. Similarly taking care of my first two boyfriends, it's just extra work. Once they think you're "locked down" they don't truly care about whether women are tired and miserable, and they will happily relax an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:33 PM
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what a bunch of nonsense, men have more partners on average than women do, you adding a bunch of stupid absolutely out of the ordinary details isn't exactly persuading to me. Men are more promiscuous than women, women have more of a right to say this bullshit in most cases that lady's husband gave HIMSELF away for free to his past exes but to her, she needs to provide and nurture the kids and split herself clit to asshole to birth their kids. His exes got him for free but his wife has to do all …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:32 AM
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Isn't this a worse deal for the woman? She didn't get a man in his prime either, the dude can be old and bald and fat now. And she has to provide and carry the kids and do the domestic labor, while nowadays guys just provide. What extra work do male partners do to "protect" in 2023 in most western societies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:12 AM
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Christ. lol I don't care whether you find it much more entertaining or just a little more engaging than a human person. "Why compare a chatbot programmed to be friendly to a person trying to disengage with a shitty first date" -- clearly you're just gonna keep dodging and are never going to answer the question, so I'm just going to bail then. since you seem to be trolling, hope you got the attention you're lacking in your day to day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:50 AM
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what part of this is confusing? Your bad first dates aren't trying to be as entertaining as the chat bot and you say you have zero expectations for them to pander to you. Why do you compare them to the chat bot then? The chat bot has a job to be engaging and pander to you, the bad first dates are uncomfortable strangers who have zero chemistry and want to leave. These people don't want to fake interest like the chat bot, you don't expect them to fake it like the chatbot, so why are you mad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:45 AM
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I'm confused what's so bad about this. I've had terrible first dates with men where I would've preferred talking to ChatGPT instead. If you have no expectation, why is it such a problem to you? Seems weird to care at that stage, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:34 AM
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It doesn't sound like your ex girlfriends were into you at all, sorry to hear that. are you sure you had a real relationship with them, or did you just have bad first dates? You really shouldn't be expecting sweet talking and girlfriend experience from girls who aren't your girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:05 AM
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Women are not defective men and vice versa. our libidos are lower than those of men and it's just the biological reality. There is no "right" libido besides the libido you personally want. if you are mismatched on how clean the house needs to be, or how much sex to have, you either compromise and talk it through, or you leave. Tbf if your partner actually wants to improve her libido.. there are options but she does have to want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:40 PM
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isn't that impossible unless some girls are being led on or cheated on, or dating a couple years older, so the data is skewed? are you trying to prove my point for me. Also it doesn't seem like "good treatment" to be cheated on The OKC one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:08 AM
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idk why this has anything to do with the original question. how is the relationship statuses of 20-somethings is related to whether men treat super attractive women better than average women? plenty of guys would settle for an average girl, it doesn't mean he's treating her good. he could view her as easy sex and domestic service and still be in the DMs of insta models Btw studies show that men, not women, send more of their likes and attention to the top % of women. Both like hotties, but men l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:03 PM
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data also says 70% of 30+ men are in relationships, what does this have to do w/ the previous context
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:25 AM
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Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:37 PM
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Unwanted male attraction from old men is a precious and valuable commodity to women apparently. Can't touch the self obsessed PPD male ego even with women's direct opinions and experiences. They'll just repeat to themselves how important and special they are and project that onto older women And we'll do this again next week lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:21 PM
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Does everything in a relationship have a dollar value? are there financial penalties for being selfish, saying abusive things to your partner or kids and ruining their mental health? are there financial bonuses for being supportive of the kids, being a good mom or dad, losing bone density during pregnancy, ripping your taint open during childbirth? No. Are those contributions to a relationship? Yes So equal financial contribution is not the same as equal contributions. stop pretending to be dumb…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:55 AM
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OP, you are trying to conflate financial equality in the relationship with effort and reciprocation and emotional investment in the relationship. You value money over people's honest efforts and respect and care for each other. I feel bad for any struggling friends or family you have. You seem like the guy who would value his rich friend for throwing his random used expensive trash your way, way more than your struggling friend who offered to get you a beer. If money is the love language you pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:39 AM
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I got a quick mental image of what your life is like and i'm starting to feel some pity. Trying to shit on women on the internet is a power trip for you, your family might be grossed out by your general demeanor and you don't have many sources of entertainment. Well it checks out, I already assumed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:49 PM
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I see that you think women complaining online counts, but if men do it on Reddit, it's not "real life" it doesn't count. Sure man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:46 PM
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What? I'm not talking about all men, I'm talking about guys who are like him. Whiny bitter men who make their hobby bitching about women on PPD are shallow, hypocritical, narcissistic liars
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:40 PM
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Women are to blame for men not having friends!! I need the government to give me spaces to have friends!! this problem is totally affecting most men not just me :( women are fucking top 20% only, stfu about real data says 70% of 30+ men are in relationships. someone said to me "just be yourself" and "personality also matters" so wasn't I promised that women wouldn't care about male physical attractiveness? apparently they prefer attractive social people like men do?? I was lied to, it's a conspi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:25 PM
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Why do you spend all your free time throwing salty, snide, bitchy little jabs at women on an internet forum then? Are you not ashamed if any of your family (if they even exist) finds out what you've been saying about women? None of that is true, we know guys like you are the most delusional self important liars on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:07 PM
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Why should anyone trust you on that? Whiny bitter men who make their hobby bitching about women on PPD are shallow, hypocritical, narcissistic liars. We can't trust guys like you here, we know what you people are like. Yall always exaggerate the truth to soothe your egos
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:29 AM
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I know, guys in this sub are more extreme than the typical guy. And I know the way I generalized was a bit reductive. I know it's not a rule it's a pattern, but I do feel jealous. I'm not saying AMALT or AWALT but I assume guys feel less vulnerable and more in control of the world around them, even if they feel more desire for stuff and they have more power and confidence to earn or take that stuff. Authority figures in my life are mostly male too. I feel like a little puppet on a string with no…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:25 AM
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I'm unclear on what you mean? I empathize with men honestly, if I had a physical advantage because of my gender, had a higher libido, felt powerful in front of the opposite gender instead of vulnerable, and saw my gender in control of most things in society and the opposite gender in service roles... it is hard to imagine but I might view men the same way men view women currently. I would feel more important than them, unafraid of them, my need for variety for important than theirs, want to coll…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:42 AM
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Yeah that's true. all these complaints about women's standards need this context. sure men's standards are lower, but what women get out of it (viewed as lesser and being one of many collectibles) is not worth much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:07 AM
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No lol. you might wish that were true, but it is a narcissistic delusion. every single convo I've seen from fb groups or group chats or dating subreddits have convos about women filtering out red flags and running from danger and not INTO it lol. You seem like someone who has been rejected for how you act (badly) on dates, but is in denial about the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:00 AM
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What do the men with a lot of options do, then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:30 AM
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Yep, I figured as much lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:28 AM
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let's not go into extremes lol, I don't believe "men are stone cold hearted" or whatever. It's not that relevant to this conversation but even in cultures where women weren't being traded for cows, marriages in the past were more about survival, necessity and families securing business ties. it rarely had anything to do with romance. The audience of the romance genre is 80+% women. Let's leave it at that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:14 PM
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yes, written by a dude, but how often read by men nowadays? do many guys read Romeo and Juliet just for fun and not because some English teacher assigned it? yes like I said, Jexi that movie you mentioned did not sell. did you check how much it made at the box office? romance movies made for men don't sell
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:08 PM
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Yes, like I've said, I acknowledge the draft issue. 100%. What counts as modern world to you, just wondering? Does japan (where you can rape underage girls and get a slap on the wrist) count as modern world, or does China (where you can beat your wife and get no repercussions) or does certain american states where the government forces women and little girls to incubate even ectopic pregnancies and risk great bodily harm or their lives? To be frank, i'd love to discuss in more detail and in good…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:07 AM
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Did you and your male friends read any romance novels recently? Yeah, idk any guy who does. I don't recall a single popular movie about romance from a guy's perspective made for a male audience and not a female audience. it would not sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:31 AM
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That's not proof. Who is spending the money and who is getting the content? Who is actually reading the romance novels? Men creating that content does not mean they are more romantic, it can just mean they want $$$ for that content. Plenty of non romantic artists would sell out for millions of dollars from sexually and romantically frustrated women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:14 AM
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There's a pretty big difference between "I feel unsafe as a woman in a dark street at night in the city" vs "I feel unsafe as a woman because the bottom 80% of men are rapists and wife beaters" if you bring fake stats into a "lashing out at the opposite gender" generalization, aren't you setting yourself up to be criticized for the fake stats
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:00 AM
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these are complaints about special treatment right? we can find a different word if you are sensitive about the word complaint. I'm in the US and honestly I can't think of many examples of the back breaking heavy work that you think is unfair that men do, which women don't have to do. How many men work those jobs? https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/in-the-news/women-serve-longer-prison-sentences-after-killing-abusers But I agree on the draft btw, it is unfair and should be gender blind Ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:36 AM
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Generalizations should be accurate. 70% of men are going to be in relationships by the time they're 30. People need to shut up about top 20% from stupid apps where men outnumber women 4 to 1, because it's actually top 70%. They just want to pretend they're in the bottom 80% when they're actually in the bottom 30%. The bitter truth for them is that it's not a societal problem, it's a personal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:44 PM
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some of these complaints are not valid. women don't have the physical strength of men to work certain jobs. women get lighter prison penalties than men for certain crime but also harder prison penalties than men for others. I agree women should be eligible for the draft sure, but it is extremely unlikely for there to be a draft right now. so what's the effect of this complaint? right now nothing. please provide "scientific evidence" for everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:39 PM
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Oh come on OP. I've already seen it. Redpill "evidence" of this lie ranges from their mom gassing them up, self insert boomer movies, a conversation with a girl who clearly was weirded out by them and gave a polite answer, and their friend telling them to "just be yourself". That bullshit you people obsess over is vastly outnumbered by the evidence for women preferring hot successful men. You are not lied to. You are either 1. on the spectrum or 2. clearly know women have eyes and like hot peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:29 PM
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Me too. My special treatment seems to be doing chores around the house which my brother didn't have to do, and getting less attention from my dad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:09 PM
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Well the 18-30 year old crowd counts a lot of people who aren't even trying to get into a committed relationship and have a lot higher priorities than serious dating. not typing it out again More than 70% of 30+ men are not single and most will have kids. still true. would prefer to not circlejerk about this. Have a nice weekend
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:44 AM
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Most false rape allegations are done by young people or teenagers with a history of drama and low maturity, or desperate people trying to extort for money. If you are around educated, mature, professional adult women, I think the chances of this happening are extremely low
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:06 AM
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No one cares you have preferences OP. But people who preach their unsolicited dating preferences at a Wendy's are cringe. It's also cringe to pretend your kinks or preferences determine the divine moral worth of other people. No one cares that you want a virgin as much as you think they do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:57 AM
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Mb, misread that. Well the 18-30 year old crowd counts a lot of people who aren't even trying to get into a committed relationship and have a lot higher priorities than serious dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:42 AM
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This is not backed up by data. More than 70% of 30+ men are not single and most will have kids. Misery loves company and people here are convincing themselves that most people aren't succeeding even when the data says most are. It is a cope to avoid personal responsibility or control over the situation by the "failure to launch", adult responsibility averse, antisocial type. who use their imagination instead of comparing with a social group of their peers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:46 PM
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nice sidestep. Bold strategy Cotton. let's see if it works out lol So women on OLD who don't even know you, should be asking your exes for your dick pics, nudes, performance in bed, dick size, and kinks? should we start building a "dick pic" repository and uploading every intimate detail and photo we have of men? Don't shame us into dating people who actively disrespect us with their dick pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:07 PM
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Why equivocate the two? checking if someone is a criminal is not creepy. Looking for someone's dick pics or nude photos or sex-related internet browsing history IS creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:58 AM
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I think there's two things here, are "get intimate info" tools ethical and is using those tools on complete strangers on OLD "ick" behavior. And in my experience... you always need to flip the genders in these sorts of questions, certain guys quick to dismiss hurt women but will always flip if it hurts men. For the tool - is it ethical if women build a repository of dick pics and use similar tools before even meeting someone? Users can look up someone's dick pics from their name and check out if…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:49 AM
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This post revives my faith in humanity and gives me hope again, thank you OP
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:14 PM
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A lot of guys here are just faking innocent victim martyr complex when it's convenient. And sometimes those same guys will write multiple paragraphs about how the mere existence of fat women or single moms sends them spiraling and writing insanely hateful, sexually explicit insults I have a lot of male acquaintances because of my industry is male dominated. I don't consider them friends because I get really unwelcome unsafe vibes from them, even if they consider me a "cool girl". In this one gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:48 PM
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there's a couple things here right: Male criteria differ from female criteria, their version of hypergamy also exists (looks, youth, physical presentation) but looks different than ours Women have more options than guys, and like any rational human being, they will try to pick their better options. Men already do "better" than women in many of those categories you picked, so your competition is on average, already is much stronger, taller, and has more money than her. Tbf while everyone would pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:08 AM
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So are you a psychopath?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:01 AM
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I agree, I felt the spark for a short asian guy in my major who could stay up half the night playing maplestory. Psychopath behavior for sure. dude was my first boyfriend There is literally no man in a relationship who isn't a psychopath. have you tried punching a baby or strangling a couple kittens in front of the average woman? clearly not doing so is holding you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:28 PM
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OP, you guys are already not expected to intervene. how many times have you been blamed or shamed for not stepping in as a male stranger? Have you been pressured to risk your life for a random person? this is a ridiculous strawman. I bet men doing this for women is about as rare as women doing this for men. I got slapped and shoved by a guy, and another time, got followed by a homeless guy threatening to kill me, both in public with men watching nearby, and it's not like they did anything and ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:19 AM
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OP would you get on your friend's case for saying he likes a thick butt brunette with long legs and glasses and then ends up with a thin petite blonde girl, because he felt a "spark" or "connection" with her when they first met? Why does it matter? maybe he's trying to be concise or not overshare. maybe he found out he was attracted to it after meeting her. Weird thing to be hung up on. why not just mind your business
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:18 AM
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What words did I put in your mouth? I really don't see it. I said IF you thought those things, I don't know if you do or not. Ironically it seems like you're putting words in my mouth lol... I don't think "men are trash" and I don't think you need my "badge of approval" for anything. just a couple last things before I stop responding for good: whenever I bring up "manosphere misogyny is concerning to me" guys always tell me it's not so bad, downplay it and change the topic to men's issues. unfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:46 AM
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Sure. I think some of the TwoX community do trauma dump, generalize men a lot, and should go to therapy. It's hard to tell that to a trauma dumper in the middle of lashing out about paternal neglect and abusive partners though. If you want to talk about TwoX I don't mind. If you want to divert the topic away from manosphere echo chambers and focus only on why TwoX sucks, I don't mind either. If you want to pretend TwoX sucks as bad as the "why women are inferior and it's okay to abuse and hurt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:40 PM
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Who is actually forming large communities, paying for content, supporting idols who brag about raping women, and creating an entire industry devoted to this kind of stuff? I'm kind of amazed someone can claim that with a straight face while being a stellar example of the exact opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:58 AM
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I was already speaking in generalizations before you showed up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:09 AM
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Lol you're the lying gaslighter. don't be deliberately obtuse, most women aren't quitting their jobs to "rely on men" until there's kids, bc you need to hire help or have 1 SAHM when there's kids. If you think being SAHM makes a woman a golddigging thot, then BE CHILDFREE or hire help. you just don't think domestic labor and childcare counts as work. Jesus christ plenty of guys choose a younger woman with less career experience or less money but damn she hot though. But blame the women for picki…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:29 AM
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I'm not talking about your specific comments, idk you. you might be a great guy who is misunderstanding me for whatever reason. I'm talking about the post and the threads under it. If you don't think my characterization of most of the guys in this community is correct then let's just disagree and leave it there
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:09 AM
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I'm not saying all guys here do it, but the majority of guys do. And I think you're being really disingenuous that this post is about "people should have more empathy". It's more like "WOMEN should have more empathy, they have little to none (sources needed), men have SO much more empathy for female strangers (sources needed) and female relatives don't care about male relatives (sources needed)"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:51 PM
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Nah, are YOU kidding ME. You must think I was born yesterday. TwoX is quite tame compared to the guys here. Let me know when TwoX starts putting stuff like "Why males are to be used and discarded and manipulated and viewed as subhuman" and "How to tear down my subhuman male fuck object's self esteem" in their sidebar. Then we'll talk lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:45 PM
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My relationship with my brother is similar too. More time, energy, money, patience on my part. One sided convos listening to his problems. I love him but my energy for taking care of dudes is completely spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:56 PM
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It's very hard to take a call for empathy seriously when it's by men who are constantly dumpstering on women, sometimes writing 10 paragraphs of hate and then playing up the nice guy victim act afterwards lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:41 PM
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Idk where these tangents are going. In YOUR circles it may be like that from your perspective. In my circles the women are higher achieving and more responsible and more mature than the men. there is no "protecting" or "providing" going on, they make similar salaries to their husbands/fiances and they still do most if not all housework. I know I am biased by my friends' experiences and I know NAMALT but sometimes I see dating like fostering a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:26 PM
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I don't believe you, PPD guys tend to lie and embellish the truth and remove context. But we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:06 PM
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It's hard to measure something like that. I'll just say it seems like more men than women are stuck in echo chambers pedestalizing/overrating themselves and their superiority, and are more extreme about their gender war rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:30 AM
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Exactly. PPD guys here trying to throw sisters and mothers under the bus in their "all women suck" tantrum. Do they really believe the lies they told themselves? I bet a number of them still get their chicken tendies delivered to their desks after shitting on their moms on reddit. And I bet if they had sisters, they put zero effort in that sibling relationship and their sisters got fed up with their negativity and center of the universe attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:12 AM
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you don't have any sisters, where are you getting your examples from? There are a lot of good reasons why at times I hated my brother (and then we made up), like physical fights and family drama and parental attention and us having very different personalities. whether he got girls or not? why would I hate him for that? feel like you're making shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:46 AM
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idk where you're from. all the women I know are working. doctors and engineers and software devs and accountants and financial analysts and postdocs. And nah... that says a lot more about you than it does about women. that's your crowd. Maybe you're young and didn't go to college and you spend all your time in the dms of insta influencers
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:11 AM
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well established? sources please
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:01 AM
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Sure I think women are asked to be more nurturing and to do more for a family. Sure I think the "protector" stereotype of men can be a bit overrated. But saying men are predators like this is over the top. Most people are just plain neutral If something extreme happened to cause some lashing out, hope it gets figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:58 AM
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do you think the typical guy on these forums with dating troubles, often shows any empathy for women? or are they more the "all women are evil lying shallow sloots" kind
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:39 AM
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https://medium.com/sexography/80-of-women-choose-only-the-top-20-of-attractive-men-is-a-big-fat-incel-lie-90e764b6a76
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:31 AM
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I would love to see sources for women not having empathy for their male relatives. just love the broad negative generalizations of women with no source. It's the "Women Are Evil" effect on PPD But yes OP, I agree that empathy doesn't fix anything. In the end, no one is going to long term date and build a life with someone they aren't into, just out of pity. No one but a complete self sacrificing idiot offers that extreme level of charity. But why is this a revelation to you? Why are you angry an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:26 AM
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lots of PPD guys have terrible personalities and are in denial. Are they social, dependable, mature, kind, fun, no anger issues, fun to be around? Heavy doubt for many of them. they seem to think their personalities are great just for existing Are you more likely to be rejected for your looks? Sure. But btw if someone likes your profile and goes on a date with you and you're not catfishing in your photos and rejected you after meeting with you, you were probably rejected for your personality...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:40 PM
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According to the General Social Survey, men are more likely to cheat than women, with 20% of men and 13% of women reporting having sex with someone other than their partner while still married. Nah still seems to be the case. FTFY Women invest everything into their husbands. men invest everything into stacy. It's fucked up that men treat Stacy better than their wives. no wonder women need to file for divorce more often. Married men are more likely to be violently abusive and so many married guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:46 AM
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don't care about your excuses. isn't this all about consistency? So I've been paying way more in taxes than what i get back from the government like a sucker while you went to a public school, eating subsidized lunches and driving around on public roads on MY dime. So if all this time the government should've been sending us hookers, i deserve twice or maybe three times the number you get. if it wasn't for leeches on the system like you bringing my taxes up to 50k, my software dev salary would'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:13 AM
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Oh now I get it. if you live in the US as well, pay me back my damn tax money. I bet you used public services and went to a public school and used public transit and you live in this country where you are protected by police and firefighters and food safety laws and a legal system that I paid for. and apparently my taxes went to all your shit while I was supposed to get a free hooker. yet I paid 50k of taxes last year and where the fuck is my free hooker. You fucking thief. give me back my money…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:08 AM
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studies show married men cheat more than married women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:23 AM
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how about you be the first one to allow any unattractive man or woman to fuck you bc it's their right after all. Be the change you want to see in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:32 AM
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If a straight woman thought this about men, I'd think she was hurt badly by someone and be polite about it, but still hope she went to therapy and healed. I hope the same for you. I think I'm even less accommodating and sympathetic since I know people with much better reasons to fall into a toxic mindset about men (like sexual assault and date rape) and STILL grew out of that phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:11 PM
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different groups of people suffer in different ways. and those men weren't guaranteed to be great partners to those women either. I do not feel bad for them, just by default. there are rich abusers and poor abusers. they likely viewed women as punching bag, baby making, slightly subhuman servants, but just ones they could not afford
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:29 PM
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I understand fully. when I hear "wife material", I often hear the same thing. It is not about the woman's attractiveness, it is more about the woman's easiness/stability/agreeability and the man's desperation or desire to settle. "wife material" can mean "you would be an agreeable servant who will put up with me/I want to flatter the most comfortable, easiest, financially stable option I have currently/I want to settle down/I am desperate/I hit my 30s hard"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:20 AM
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historically my culture was like that. But an informed coerced decision is still a coerced decision. many men can't put themselves in the shoes of those women but I bet if they were gatekept from a comfortable quality of life/social acceptance/higher education/employment/property ownership/inheritance, they would make similar choices to the women they feel spite towards
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:55 AM
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ok.. so back to your post again. Vague but bold generalization about women, without quantifying anything (because then you'd actually need data for it) or referencing stats or polls or scientific literature. I'm just supposed to assume you're right. Maybe because posters like you think "evidence" is repeating some premise they should've actually proven, usually some bullshit snippy generalization of the other gender, with a certain sounding, authoritative, armchair expert sass. they act like it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:54 PM
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Well, I don't think it's mainly adult men saying they're too scared to talk to women, it's mostly teens or young adults. let's not tell these kids they're "genetically inferior". they're kids. It looks like a ton of kids are terminally online anxious messes nowadays, and some of them are consuming the stupidest content to have ever existed on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:01 PM
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businesses and organizations make the decisions there, what products, video games, open positions, they want to offer to or market to women. They choose to market to women, they choose to hire us. So you want to blame us for "invading" when your boss hires a woman and for some reason, bc you have genitals in common with him and others at your workplace, you think you own that space and your anti woman shrieking input is relevant at all and it speaks for your boss and coworkers as well. You don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:50 PM
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What intrigues me is your effort to make men the center of the universe and where guys like you get the audacity. Please share the source to women. Imagine if more women sounded like this.. on the topic of male abuse victims, shouldn't the focus be on how unfair it is that some women get to treat men like shit, and I don't get to? I bet if I was a Stacy I could get all doormat men to pay for everything I want and I could crush their self esteem and physically and emotionally abuse them too. Ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:30 PM
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Let's just say "women suck" which what people want to hear and move on with our lives
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:05 PM
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I don't think the "mens only clubs" are a "threat to the public" lol. You're exaggerating and concentrating on certain ones that probably are, but most mens only clubs don't have that reputation. And there aren't many because you guys aren't making or joining them. Redditors will talk shit but never actually make an effort edit: if your group of friends or your club or the Boy's scouts leadership decides to let in "invading" women, blame the people who changed the fucking rules. then go to a dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:55 PM
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We were talking about socializing and not dating. Do men invite random female strangers they don't want to date to social events more often than vice versa? I'm guessing the goalposts are going to keep moving, until the "women are horrible" conclusion gets reached, so I'm going to tap out now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:52 PM
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A woman can equally say "trust me bro" and say the same thing, gender flipped. That we need extra resources, privileges, and special spaces to manage the pressures that only women will understand, they need to be gatekept from the men, because just one man in our space will taint the air and make us repressed, also we are women and we are strong and we are special and you're not and fuck you lol. These are some vague, self indulgent claims. Nothing concrete. What even is a "fully unleashed" male…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:37 PM
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Can't one say, men also change the dynamic of a female friend group and can cause the same kind of drama? Isn't that just as valid an issue? I don't see why the gyms and these public spaces "naturally belong" to men either. It would be just the same as your complaint, if women complained that men existing and minding their business in the same workspace affected the female friendly vibes. Men do not have more of a right to those spaces than women do. So if the same problems exist the other way a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:37 AM
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Dude no one randomly invites complete strangers to social events, without at least getting to know them. if they are not fun, friendly, similar interests, why would you invite them? You don't know if this stranger would want to come either. also do you do this yourself for other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:33 AM
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It doesn't matter if it's 50 in 100 women, heck if it was 10 in 100 or 1 in 100 women who liked evil or abusive men, PPD guys would be bitching about it still. I wonder why it triggers them so much Men with hot but abusive evil woman? She's evil and he's a victim. Women with hot but abusive evil man? I expected the females to distribute sex equally and morally, but some bad guys are getting the pussy commodity for cheap, why do I need to pay market rate for puss when sometime, somewhere, the pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:07 AM
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Not true at all. I've invited single guy friends and acquaintances to social events, and now 2 of them are dating my friends lol. Do none of yall have a mixed gender friend group? Some men don't prefer to socialize with women and some women don't prefer to socialize with men. I highly doubt the "women who don't want to socialize with men" group vastly outnumber the other one. Maybe you have a source? just because it feels true to you, doesn't make it actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:24 AM
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very fitting emoji for you. true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:43 AM
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But OP, all the issues you bring up about why socializing is hard for adult men, that's true for single women too. can you be specific about what special social opportunities women get rom women, that men don't get from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:45 PM
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That's the sign you get on a PPD guy's nerves. stops responding to any points or criticism and starts going hard /r/iamverysmart. Hope you got what you wanted from the "relevant framework of the question posed". maybe next time, try just one or two questions? and if they're loaded with your sass and pointed towards people who have experienced misogyny, racism or homophobia, be understanding of their defensiveness. I do enjoy it. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:23 PM
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please don't misunderstand, I only mean women should put themselves first as much as men do. and not sure why you think "putting themselves first" means "it has to be like extremist Islam for it to count". Anyway, I hope you had fun with your post. I have an idea for your next one, why not do the same with race or sexual orientation? Your next post can be, "what is the value of people of color?" or "what do gay people bring to the table?" and then contrast that with a similar question to white o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:27 AM
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Lol. it's pretty silly you think women reciprocate grace less than men, and imply we're more scornful than men. Esp given we're in this sub. Women here are used to scorn from PPD men, and very little grace. I'm pretty sure you knew that too. Women here are used to justifying our existence, asking to be allowed to make mistakes, have sexual desires, find hot people hot, and put ourselves first the way men do. Are you surprised by the reaction you got? I hope not, because it sounds like either you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:04 AM
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I'm wondering OP what we do with this information lol. What if women are worse in all the metrics that matter to you, since a lot of guys won't value childbearing or childrearing. Let's say that's true. What difference does it make? What policies would you support? Does it change how you act towards women, how much you respect women, or your attitude towards women? I'm just curious. There is a reason why this question is asked, and why it's important to OP, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:27 AM
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You don't need to put all your eggs in the same basket, even if it's the largest basket. Even if you prioritize romantic relationships, that doesn't mean you shouldn't put effort in or enjoy the other things. Money is nice. A career you like is nice. Good friends are nice. You are also so young. How do you even know you want kids, at your age? Do most 20 year olds even know themselves yet? Meet people, plan a trip somewhere, join some facebook groups, go on a hike and get high with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:10 AM
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OP while it helps some of us with anxiety to break things down and have steps and rules, they might be too formulaic and stress you out further. I know a couple people with anxiety and I've had it too. If you're getting jitters or your heartbeat is going up or stuff like that, tackle that first. you can desensitize yourself with more exposure, make small talk at a class or facebook or meetup event. if you feel the symptoms of anxiety, practice deep breathing and forcing your abdomen/stomach area…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:36 PM
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I have never heard "staring is rape" or "no woman wants to be called pretty" at feminist protests. either you are misrepresenting and exaggerating, or you dumpster dived extremely deep to find some real cringey stuff for outrage fuel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:58 PM
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those are not often said things. Maybe those are exaggerated nonsense misrepresentations
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:18 AM
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though if anyone has a past of trauma, like their partner beat them up or stole their life savings or shot their dog or whatever it is, if they end up in FDS or redpill and start talking shit, just pay it no mind. common to go through a misandry/misogyny phase if that happens I think women have more gendered trauma (more violent DV/sexual assault/certain misogynistic cultures) so they do talk a lot more shit on reddit. though people should be reminding some it's cool to trauma dump for a while b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:15 AM
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I don't think reddit cares about malecentric spaces about goals and wholesome shit like that... more like those spaces often advocate for dehumanizing, lying, abusing and seeing women as subhuman and that's the part that gets watered down..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:08 AM
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How is it not? Some guys hear some message like "sexual assault is more common than you'd think" and "let's not be racist or sexist or bully weaker kids" and they start rolling around on the ground, misinterpreting things heavily, pretending to be the victim. just like republicans whining about scary buzzwords like "critical race theory" and not being able to bully gay people anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:59 AM
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It would be nice if that was the case. on the contrary, I think a lot of guys here are incredibly unreceptive of "constructive brainstorming" that isn't attached to 10 paragraphs of self victimizing, women blaming, oversimplified fantasizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:18 PM
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So what do these men actually want? If they want to complain but they don't want support, help, or for us to actually listen and sympathize, why are they even talking to others about it in the first place? It sounds like many guys here want to trauma dump, being vicious and hateful to others in the process, but they don't actually care for any of the responses, help, support or sympathy from their audience. None of their audience's responses could ever be enough for them. Maybe they just want th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:15 PM
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I'm a woman and I care about looks... maybe you don't personally, but if you still have a minimum looks bar for others to clear, it's okay to admit that yknow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:28 AM
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what's the huge difference? Do you hate single dads too if they fucked some woman off Tinder who tosses them the newborn baby and disappears? are those men degenerates and disgusting creatures?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:25 AM
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this is PPD dude, we're not around normal people. Here is a space with a lot more misogynists than normal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:56 AM
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I kind of get it. Womens beauty standards might give us more to do, but at least we can do something about it (typically). You can't really change height and balding like you can shave body hair and apply makeup. For women, it's mostly just the face and our weight. Personally I'm really glad I don't bald People will say stuff like "focus on the stuff you can change and don't dwell on things you can't", and i'd also agree with that way of living life, but OP is not wrong either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:04 AM
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from your previous comments, I thought you said you wanted to avoid women in general and the female friends and relatives you have hatred and disdain for. was that not what we were talking about earlier? again, I just don't understand why you act like female gifts and female friend interactions are forced upon you. If you hate them so much, turn down women's invites, organize boys only outings. if the women persist, tell them you want to cut off contact. when were we talking about "who does more…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:28 PM
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so what that a couple people on a post with thousands of upvotes check comment history. Redditors check that shit all the time, see if the person is lying like changing stories/age/gender/etc or just looking for something spicy like weird kinks. in this case, his background/looks/interests are relevant to his dating struggles too. ofc people gonna check confused why it's so big a deal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:33 PM
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obviously you can't go back in time, I am trying to help you problem solve for NOW. you are an adult I assume. How are you unable to cut off relatives you don't like? How are you unable to remove friends you don't like? How are you unable to not accept a gift? Now that you have used your female relatives who helped to raise you and no longer need them, you now have the ability and agency as an adult to cut them off if you wanted. Why don't you? I assumed your complaint was about your close femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:12 PM
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Lol then how can racists exist? bc there is a minority of extremists believe certain people are naturally inferior, but they don't have the numbers or power to discriminate or coerce or enslave like they used to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:09 PM
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Aren't you part of the problem of not enforcing your boundaries? If you hate the gifts, do not accept the gifts. If you hate being around your female relatives, stop going to events where they are around. maybe you can consider quitting your job if the presence of women is so offensive? If AWALT and you detest us, I don't understand why you keep putting yourself in the path of women and complaining and complaining and complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:04 PM
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I've never seen this happen? If a guy says he's struggling, it could be bc of so many possible, highly personal reasons. The misogyny accusation rarely comes out of nowhere. Examples of this happening all the time like OP said?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:55 PM
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Most people did give him generic advice that didn't assume he was an incel, UNTIL the incel stuff was found. I really think you're reaching with this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:51 PM
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Not as human as themselves though. we are the subhuman, inferior, servant underclass of the human race
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:51 AM
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It seems like you really hate your female friends, why not just end the friendships and stop being around them? what, are they forcing you to hang out and breaking in through your door? it sounds like both you and your female friends have a terrible sense of boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:27 AM
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if a guy only victim blames himself and pretends to be chill, isn't that more of a sign he cannot stand up for himself? maybe some of it is his own gullibility but the rest is on the guy who scammed or assaulted him or fucked his wife or mocked or humiliated him. most of the men I know do hold some grudges. probably varies by the person and situation. it's unhealthy to always only be angry at yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:01 AM
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We both know why you're so vague, bc the truth is, how your post was characterized is pretty on point... How about you move on instead of following ppl to different post being snide and petty. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:56 PM
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Maybe you hid the point under a mountain of pissy conjecturing about how women actually hate ugly men's sexuality and how we do nothing for our friends but want free labor and shit from them. I'm sorry, I thought those were the points you were trying to make since you spent the lion's share of your post rambling on and on about that. Sorry, I must've gotten confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:48 PM
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I should give up too, because none of guys circlejerking about this seem to listen. From the first of these 4 posts, it was made it clear that these men do not value friendships with women, these men have no use for female friends outside of dating, and female friends aren't real friends to them. Go back and read that first post if you're confused why so many women here have been focusing on the deception angle that all of you want to brush under the rug. most women here have no issue about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:06 PM
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Lol, no. Your post with all the imaginative strawmen where women despise ugly guys sexuality but want to use their guy friends as unpaid domestic servants? Nah, those points are kind of insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:36 PM
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I don't think you are in the wrong if you never intended for this to happen. Unlike the other posters, who seem to think their female friendships are fake, aren't valued as real friendships, and women should always be able to sense that and aren't allowed to be hurt by deception... you seemed to see her as a real friend at least initially. I assume you were a genuine friend at some point, you valued her as a friend, feelings developed afterward, and you weren't faking your original friendship wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:37 AM
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Maybe one day (judging by how you are, probably already), you'll have a male friend who pretends to be your friend but gives zero shits about you. you trust him but he thinks you're an easy, mostly friendless beta doormat to borrow money from or your truck. He doesn't disclose to you, that you're not good enough to hang normally and he will bail on you once you have no money or no truck Well that's different, you're allowed to be pissed, you're a man right? Tee hee.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:20 AM
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Nah. Actually it's funny how OP wrote a whole ass rambling post assuming the worst of the women and turning the fake male friend into some kind of poor baby victim saint. And you're simping for him, aren't you? So you're projecting then, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:10 AM
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Are you new to this thread and the series of posts that OP have been referencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:49 AM
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Nah, not gonna try again. pretty sure I understood this nonsense 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:59 PM
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Another one of these "women are unhappy when I deceive them?? They're entitled for feeling hurt by my lying! And I'm the real victim!!" posts. What a ridiculous tantrum. Literally women are saying one thing, and OP is putting both hands over his ears and screaming out strawmen that he thinks we believe. what a creative and self serving imagination. Women: "I'm hurt that he lied to me and pretended to be my friend, what a waste of my time and trust." OP: "Noo you don't, it's not about the lies an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:44 PM
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Obviously, it depends on who is saying it and if we are certain they aren't dogwhistling and throwing out little petty sexist jabs at women. If you don't prefer female company but still show basic human decency to us, make it clear you're 100% chill, obviously no. Vast majority of us don't care and would not call this "dehumanization". If you're a whiny male teenager with a bone to pick with women, bitching about "females are worthless except for their holes" and "why would I value friendship wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:19 AM
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That's pretty rich lol. Isn't it more entitled to pretend to be friends but want connections, money, or sex from them? and YOU get more offended than THEM when they found out you've been lying your ass off? Unbelievable the narcissism of some of these dudes. And they think women are 'gaslighting' them instead of the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:13 PM
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K. projecting much? seems like I hit a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:15 PM
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I'm not the one blaming and whining and shaming one gender for shit both genders do. aren't you the one "pontificating" LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:38 PM
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If you want to fall for this guy's obvious fiction writing exercise where he hangs out in locker rooms with football players who use incel lingo, while he says he has autism, probably a shut in, and he's a daily PPD poster... go ahead. but even if it were 100% true, I. don't. care. guys here can shove their faux moral outrage where the sun don't shine. as if men never risk their self respect and mental health by simping for hot, toxic women who treat them badly, because of tingles™. Weird, maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:24 PM
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if he was making a point, he should make it clear it's a hypothetical. Because his fake story sounds fake as hell. I don't know what to tell you about your strawman. some self proclaimed "nice" guys are obvious about their sexism, some hide it well. some fuckboys are obvious about their sexism, some hide it well. some people think horny >> self respect & safety. some don't. Don't get this strawman about women having a magic 100% correct misogyny sense lol, sounds like argumentative BS you made u…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:40 AM
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You really have a talent for hearing what you want to hear. You seem constantly outraged that "some extreme exaggeration I made of one person's opinion that I've generalized to all women is wrong!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:02 PM
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I get the sense OP is exaggerating and writing a bit of fiction. Do you want to add some more backstory OP? What are the ages of these football players? Why are you always in the locker room at the same time? How do you know "word spread" and the women actually know exactly what the misogynist jocks said? Are you in the same social circles where you're around these fit, athletic guys (who use incel phrasing and lingo like "firm holes" for some reason) and the women they're fucking? if you're aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:02 PM
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Eh, I've told a number of first dates they were "giving off fuckboy vibes" and then ghosted them after. Did not mean it to be "you're so hot and I bet you get laid a lot" lol. I meant it as "you're obsessed with casual sex for validation, I'm kinda worried you have STDs, you keep touching me even when I keep moving away, the arrogant way you act is hella cringe, I don't enjoy someone being this crass and sexual and trying to neg me, I haven't been feeling safe and I've been covering my drink. By…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:57 PM
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I'm not talking about your OP about height at all though. Also I'm not making the points you're arguing against, it's confusing to me why you brought up random stuff I didn't argue for. I'm talking about your comment about "most men prefer women in peak fertility". Women don't want to date all men, we especially don't want to date men who we are not compatible with and are focused on 20-something only women. If they think we do, they are overvaluing their opinion and we really don't care what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:02 AM
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what does the person saying "just be yourself" usually mean? "relax and be genuine when you talk to your date" "never change yourself, freeze yourself exactly as you are at this exact moment in time. the type of women you like is guaranteed to be all over you if you never change. no going to the gym, no self improvement, no change in career or hobbies, no dealing with mental health, anger issues, anxiety, social isolation, depression"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:18 AM
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Just two things from a woman's perspective -- the first is that there is generally enough male thirst that there is a big enough pool of men who date older women. And the second is, you seem to think we value the opinions of guys who would never be compatible with us in the first place, esp when they seem like rather self centered, obnoxious people who would be draining to be around. Imagine a group of chubbier older women telling you that they prefer men who aren't 36 year old dudes who post on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:56 PM
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would like to see some actual sources for that stuff instead of taking your word for it. like the other guy, find some counterexamples to help you with your confirmation bias. for instance, men cheat more when married and seriously injure & murder their wives much more often than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:11 PM
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Let's say a balanced gender ratio is a plus for society. Can we do a PSA to stop making things worse? dads losing their shit at gender reveals and cultures shaming and pressuring women into producing "male heirs" isn't really helping. We're not even at the natural sex ratio is 105 to 100. isn't it about 107 to 100 globally? china (where I'm from) and middle eastern countries doing their part in aborting lots of girls. it was like 120 to 100 over there for a while. I'm sure things have changed fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:36 AM
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Your single criteria "paying for the first date" is not the be all and end all to measure selfishness. It's probably chosen on purpose, to help you create your narrative. You need to see more examples of men being selfish, entitled, even abusive, manipulative, dangerous. it'll help you with your confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:26 AM
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When you say equal, do you mean equal in terms of strength/intelligence/success or equal in terms of what legal rights they should be given? Since you're bringing politics into this... do you believe someone with more of those attributes should get more rights than someone who doesn't? Does this get applies to groups of men, or even you as an individual, and not just women? you may be old, friendless, poor, and senile one day...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:03 AM
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That's weird you say that. I thought it was the other way around lol. doesn't PPD guyseven view women as the disposable and expendable sex? outside of the ones they want to fuck and only for a short time window Judging by the way a lot of men act towards us and by our political rights regressing, how are we not also disposable and expendable to a lot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:45 AM
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I had fun reading this one https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3pltm2/humansockpuppets_guide_to_managing_your_bitches/ also this one https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4wu6n4/humansockpuppets_guide_to_teasing_bitches/ and this one https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/14jjnkc/emotionally_manipulating_women_into_cooking_you/ written by seething, vicious, whiny ass teenagers lol. If a grown adult wrote any of that self insert fanfic, I would cringe right out of my chair. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:02 AM
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you can go to the redpill subreddit and just look at the sidebar. basically the how to neg and lie to women handbook
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:28 AM
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No, you're wrong. Redpill ids some of womens standards but blames the world/society/women for being unjust and misleading grown ass adults on incredibly obvious things. Because they blame everyone but themselves, they lash out and use that blame to justify being abusive or toxic to women. I'm not sure if you actually follow redpill content, they advocate cheating on, lying to, negging, and tearing down the self esteem of women. And they feel 100% justified in that process
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:40 AM
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Does redpill tell dudes they suck and should be more accountable? Does redpill tell dudes that women aren't evil? I've seen the opposite lol from redpillers on PPD. Lots of shaming women for any standards and blaming us for their social isolation or their being confused about our preferences Most of them have that tiny bit of self awareness of why they aren't popular with women (that women tend to like attractive, ambitious guys and they aren't like those guys) and a whole lot of blaming other p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:46 AM
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I'm confused why you say it's not anti female. I went through the sidebar for the redpill subreddit and checked out what they say about women. there's a lot about feeling superior to women, expecting our subservience as well as how to gaslight, lie to, neg and ruin our self esteem. how is advocating abuse of women not anti female?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:26 AM
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O I see, gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:13 PM
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I'm not talking about normal international dating "expats" like english teachers or peace corps volunteers. I assume those guys are the norm. They tend to be normal, well socialized, and respect the women and the culture. Passport bros are not the norm and behave very differently
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:59 PM
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I can't imagine these most of these guys actually putting the work in to get a real relationship abroad. most won't do anything more than sex tourism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:37 PM
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Aren't these guys constantly insulting western women as well? as well as displaying every red flag in the book (antisocial, sex tourists, dogwhistling about needing to feel superior to and in control of women, etc) shouldn't passport bros have thicker skin if they're going to be this obnoxious to other people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:32 PM
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if you search hard for it, you can find someone mad about anything but also passport bros are repetitive and kinda whiny and are constantly shitting on others. don't think it's so bad someone out there is making fun of them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:42 PM
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No one gives a rats ass about international dating OP. Literally no one is stopping you. Passport bros don't want to just advocate for international dating though. they say that while getting on their podium and then it's one long circlejerk about bitching about western women and hinting at their little gender superiority complex. Also they typically want to be sex tourists, who are usually the most self important, rude, obnoxious, gropey asshole tourists
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:34 AM
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I don't think people should trust your anecdata then. Why would women think that having lots of matches is an ego boost? you might be coming at this from a male perspective and not a female one. When I first used a dating app, I was pleasantly surprised by the number of matches but the ego boost was quickly fleeting once I realized it meant nothing. lots of guys swipe without even looking and male sexual attraction doesn't mean they like you or even find you attractive. PPD guys can confirm, eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:14 AM
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Do you have any data that proves that women do that MORE than men? back when I was on the apps I didn't think my rate of replying was at all worse than the guys who matched with me. Also, no one owes anyone anything when they're just 1-2 messages in with a complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:52 AM
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Nah, women don't say we don't like hot charming people. usually it's the guy who misinterpreted on purpose to blame us, like hearing "personality matters" into "ONLY personality matters and my looks never matter". they started off as assholes who want to hurt women, they just want to fake a reason to blame their future abuse victims
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:39 PM
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Eyecandy is nice but eyecandy who is a danger to me, that's a hard pass. Redpilled men are almost always abusive and toxic, hidden contempt for women, anger issues, etc. This guy isn't my type and I won't be his either. But even if he fits my ideal type, I don't want to "accidentally fall down the stairs" or "walk into poles" or "trip at the edge of a cliff" when I've outlived my usefulness to a redpilled guy by aging or having human needs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:25 PM
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This is my gaslighting playbook apparently, do you want to see it? Step 1) Do nothing, never promise that hot and ugly men have the same amount of casual sex. Redpill guys delude themselves we say this by watching male wish fulfillment movies and mishearing "personality matters" to "ONLY personality matters" Step 2, 3) any mention of NAWALT, nuance, how few women actually want casual sex Step 4) Remind men that women are humans with eyes for hot people too, just like they are ??? Step 5) PPD tee…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:01 PM
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I am a strong believer that real love is two people sincerely fighting over the check. one person eventually wins but it shouldn't be the same person every time. separate checks or going Dutch mean you don't trust each other yet or expect things to continue unless your partner is significantly more wealthy and doesn't mind, not even attempting to pay when you have the means, especially multiple times in a row, means you're a user and someone should dump you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:17 AM
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so you're talking about general male loneliness and social isolation now, and not just a lack of romantic/sexual intimacy? What does male social isolation have to do with dating and getting a girlfriend? Topic seems to keep changing, for maximum outrage and acting offended. But this new topic really shows the extent of how much you blame problems on society, problems which historically have always been up to the individual like going outside and making friends. what kind of individual self help …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:53 PM
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It's pretty clear you're the type of redditor who picks and chooses what to believe based on what is convenient for them. And based on nothing but their holier than thou attitude and narrowminded view of their little neck of the woods, they discount injustices and discrimination in other people's lives, on the other side of the world, in a culture with traditions they know nothing about. Yet they think their uninformed opinion matters and they're some kind of judge who needs to be listened to. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:29 AM
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I have no idea what you're talking about, this is wild. You seem pretty mad. Did a specific woman lie to you? Am I that specific woman? Are you accusing me of lying to you? Where was the lie? In places where we are talking to friends and no seething, pissy strangers who are constantly judging us and jumping down our throats, we are quite honest about who we're shacking up with and why...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:36 AM
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Hey the truth is, we don't care. Because we don't feel sorry that we're human, and that's more a human condition thing than a woman thing. We don't care about "how we distribute sexual success" and whether it's moral or not, because we deserve to be equally self serving like men do and men wouldn't care if they were "distributing sex morally to women" either. Yes, a lot of women, and a lot of men, will put up with a lot to be around confident, exciting, edgy, attractive people. Quite a lot of gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 10:02 PM
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Haha you know me, as a woman, I'm just naturally untrustworthy, an exaggerator and a liar. I'm from an immigrant background, compared to my friends' dads, my dad was one of the good ones because I've only seen him beating my mom maybe 4 times growing up. You can't talk about domestic violence though, your family needs to save face. At least mom had 1 son, a couple of our female relatives were verbally and physically abused by their in laws for having daughters and not sons. in my culture there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:30 PM
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in places where womens gyms are legal, mens gyms are also legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:49 PM
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Not sure why this is confusing? Don't men want an attractive partner, who is likely desirable by other men as well, who is loyal to and satisfied with him and doesn't make him concerned about her past? Imagine the same thing... but for women. go look up any survey, women are really judgmental about promiscuous men just like vice versa It is so strange to me why guys here have these epiphanies, is it weird that women think fuckboys are "low value"? Sure fuckboys and their friends could call thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:24 PM
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Why not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:53 PM
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I never disagreed with that, I was only poking fun at the attitude of certain guys of this thread. you never stopped to clarify WHAT I actually thought, you just started pretending I did. and it was all your own imagination. idk why you're whining about facts and feelings when it's you who started pretending, projecting and overreacting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:02 AM
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Go google it. just because there's little market for it doesn't mean they don't exist. women don't care about mens only gyms lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 01:23 AM
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What formal male-only spaces were attacked for being male only? There are gentlemen's clubs. If guys wanted to make gentlemen-only gyms, they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 01:20 AM
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Exactly, no one at the car meet cares. But certain guys on reddit really, really do. I thought you were one of them? Facts don't care about your feelings lol. I can add it to random statements where it makes no sense, to be a little snide too, yknow
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:36 AM
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Do they say, men have a lot of feelings when they sometimes see a woman around at a car meet and they get super butthurt about that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:19 AM
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I passed by a car meet a while ago and it was 99% men. Should I apologize for ruining it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:34 PM
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No one seems to actively preach it but everyone in this sub just labels a bunch of random shit they don't like blue pill. It doesn't sound like an ideology, it's like every offhand comment of a stranger, a friend, or their grandma is "blue pill"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:13 PM
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No, I don't think I'd care. everyone should just live their best life without judgment. People unready for relationships should stay away from dating anyone anyway, for both peoples sakes. Hard to tell why those young women cared, assuming you're telling the truth. Maybe those women were hitting on you and were frustrated? Maybe you're in a conservative state with lots of homophobes and they assumed you were gay? Hard to say really
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:13 AM
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I'm still extremely confused why you and so many guys here think "bluepill" is a lie told to people. Men care about looks, why is it so confusing that women care about looks? Women aren't all equal to each other in terms of attractiveness, why would men be all equal to each other? It's almost like "bluepill" is assuming men are just more important and special than women are, and women would distribute ourselves "equally" to men without worrying about mutual enjoyment or benefit for us. It sounds…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:06 PM
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I have read the sidebar, it is really scary stuff. Lots of advocating for abusing, lying to and emotionally tearing down women, how to ruin our self esteem, why double standards are okay because we're a subhuman, lesser, servant class. Probably on par with white supremacists hatred and view of POC. Most petulant children do not think they're behaving like petulant children, that's entirely the case here with redpill. Watch what they do (insulting others, temper tantrums, pretending the world is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:19 AM
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Yeah I figured your reading of this study would be full of it. looks like "women lie about their preferences about as much as their parents lie about their preferences" in this one. Guess fathers lie and are equally as superficial as their daughters, right? this study also does not prove this was an intentional lie. It proves there is confusion which can be entirely because its treatment of preferences was flawed or communicated badly. it's entirely possible "a minimum physical attraction thresh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:01 PM
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where was the "women are wonderful" narrative when I was growing up lol? Complete bullshit to distract from the misogyny that we actually face. I got a lot of "women are less competent, stupid, shallow for daring to have preferences, should gtfo male dominated hobbies and careers, why even do that career you can't hack it, go support a husband instead, you're a slut if you like sex, you should do chores even if your brother doesn't, you're not as important as men" instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:22 PM
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Source? did it actually prove that "women lie about their preferences"? Heavily doubt you're reading it fairly without trying to insert your narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:15 PM
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OP if each guy promised us, 100% guaranteed, that they wouldn't lash out towards us and they are in a good place mentally and wouldn't be hurt by us telling him he's ugly, most women would tell him the truth. Steve is hotter and that's why women flock to him. If you focus on situations where we're intimidated by some unfamiliar guy, unsure how he handles rejection and criticism of his looks, and worried for his self confidence, you've intentionally biasing what we're going to say to him. You're …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:29 PM
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Sounds like you and some other teenagers here misheard "personality matters" to "personality is the only only thing that matters, looks never matter, and I have an objectively great personality". I can't tell what is up with you guys who heard the latter. Disingenuousness, malicious incompetence, perhaps a learning or socializing disability?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:33 AM
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Dude it's crazy women care about looks. like they have the right??? Entitled bitches all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:26 AM
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Your example is nothing like a "redpilled alpha guy". What you described is a normal confident dude without any of the toxic redpill traits. Redpill guys are obsessed with hierarchy and superiority over others, that's why they insult and belittle women and men who don't conform to their worldview. The "redpilled alpha guy" would not be kind to wait staff, he likely thinks he's superior to them especially if he makes more money. He would not listen or treat his date with respect, he thinks female…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:21 AM
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imagine if all pilled guys were secretly this and thats why they're acting out. would be kinda hot tho ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:36 AM
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I'm kind of shocked that PPD put up this somewhat reasonable take and it's coming from /u/Johnny_Autism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:34 PM
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isn't it crazy that exaggerated opinions, taken too literally, from people with different tastes and preferences are contradictory? It's weird that billions of people on the planet aren't all the same. the world is too confusing and unfair, you may as well stay away from women and trying to date them. you don't deserve such horrid treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:06 PM
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I think women know how flawed ultimately this "soft power" is. in conservative spaces especially male sexual desire is the only "soft power" or currency we have. It is just enough for survival of women collectively, so even the most women hating misogynistic cultures keep us around, but it doesn't give us what really matters. The only way women can get respect, stability, self determinism, safety, equal opportunity is through hard power and not soft power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:49 PM
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there's both sides to this, I know some girls are attracted to stoic hypermasculine guys and maintaining that image can be tough. They might get the "ick" easily, and I completely get it if those guys feel excessively judged and self conscious. But most people are reasonable and get the "ick" for normal reasons. when their date shows signs of being emotionally unstable, anger issues, some character flaw, or wearing their partner down emotionally over time, etc. I've known both guys and gals who …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:26 AM
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I totally believe you. you must have a PhD in "basic psychology." bet you're one badass navy seal too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:41 AM
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you sure sound more humble and smart than me, I stand corrected. Guess us women just suck lol. I'll take this edgy teenager's word for it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:46 PM
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Just not dense enough to believe people w an incentive to shit on random women as a coping mechanism. everyone wants to hurl accusations and moan generally about women. but who has specific quotes in the texts they claim are manipulative, and actual proof of lying? literally none of yall lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:16 PM
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I can't tell if you're being serious. pretty normal to feel used and confused if your ex continues to overshare emotionally and sext you after the relationship ends, while looking for a new relationship. If it's hard to understand, imagine Jonah Hill was a Joanna Hill and you might get it. some mild criticism of some random man by some random woman, literal stampede of PPD guys posting vague, feelings only, facts missing, gender war nonsense in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:08 PM
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Anytime friend. Hope you get the help you need
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:47 PM
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I did. Any specific ones that prove she's lying or manipulative? I'll wait :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:45 PM
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His ass, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:30 PM
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What is the proof of her actual manipulation and lies? Where are the specifics? that link is a slideshow of the texts we've seen days ago and they look pretty normal. It sounds like you guys are the ones trying to start an unsubstantiated rumor about a woman, and hoping others don't have the critical thinking skills to see through this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:55 PM
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Lol are you being sarcastic or genuinely losing your mind over some really boring, tame ass texts? I can't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:46 PM
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Lol any specific texts you guys think are manipulative or lies? These look totally normal on her end. It just sounds like you guys don't think women actually check your links and are trying to start some silly rumors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:44 PM
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where are the new leaked texts that prove she's lying? all I hear is a bunch of vague accusations. you mentioned there's details, where are the details? It's possible that a child actor in hollywood was abused more than once. "the accuser is a woman" is not evidence of lying. I'm not so gullible or self hating enough to instantly disregard other women like that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:11 AM
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Are we going to get some sources and evidence that the surfer girl was lying and Alexa Nikolas is proven to be lying too? What exactly were they lying about? Any specific details? I don't hear any concrete facts in the OP, but that's probably the point right? This subreddit is just people trying to soothe their egos anyway with the world's highest quality copium. Look at all these comments on this thread lol. Who needs facts when you can feel better by moaning resentfully towards women? May as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:22 AM
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Confused why this is only directed to women, statistically married men have more affairs than married women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:08 AM
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Yep, that place is a dumpster fire from my experience. tried to use Tinder for about 2 months before I uninstalled in my early 20s. At that time, I was looking for casual sex to be honest but based on interactions with guys there I felt a lot more safer at home with my back massager. It takes a couple immediate sexual comments and negging and finding out the guy's married from facebook, and you'll become distrustful and cynical of male strangers real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:27 AM
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It is okay that we disagree on this issue and that's fine. If your partner gives you a list of "things you should change, not for your own sake but because I'm very insecure", there is a point that list can get so long that it's outrageous and controlling. If we disagree on the point that happens, who cares. Let's just call it a day and discontinue this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:06 AM
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What do you mean edited out? Did you mean she faked some of the messages? sources, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:26 PM
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changing careers for a partner is a ton of work and risk and years of training thrown away. If she told him to stop working with hot actresses and to change careers bc she's insecure, PPD guys would get the pitchforks and torches in record time. Lots of dudes here act like playing build a bitch with women is okay but would lose their shit if men were called names, pressured, and guilted into doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:26 PM
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Not really, because in the texts he kept blaming her. Called her disrespectful and hurtful when it's him who has the abnormal demands and mental health issues and baggage. The vast majority of people don't care if you have opposite gender clients, coworkers, or post a pic of you wearing a one piece swimsuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:15 AM
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I would also be confused and weirded out if a guy told me to quit my entire career and social circle. Might agree at first thinking he's having an emotional moment. someone having the audacity to ask for that and being 100% serious, it takes a while to truly sink in I don't think Jonah is necessarily a misogynist, but some of the guys defending him definitely are. If she told him to quit acting and lose all his friends she didn't approve of and called that a "boundary", PPD guys would be screami…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:19 PM
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he being an unreasonable diva reflects badly on him, she dragging it up 2 years later reflects badly on her too. in the end I struggle to care about either of these two people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:58 PM
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I think he was being self absorbed about it, if your "boundaries" are your partner's entire career and social circle and media presence which you knew about beforehand, you should recognize you're the problem and not your partner. You're asking for way more than reasonable, have a little humility damn. But this is a mild issue isn't it? Idk why PPD guys want him to be 100% blameless. So what if Jonah Hills is a little insecure and made it his ex's fault instead of his own? it's celebrity drama a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:12 PM
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men might think they're the "keys" but many women also think we're the "keys" though. What makes your "common sense" metaphor more true than mine? if women have more say, power and influence in society like men currently do, we'd also control the narrative and call it "common sense" as well. The women I know, we'd see a fuckboy who is obsessed with casual sex and fucks everything he sees as "low value" as a partner. If lock means something with value that should be evaluated, and keys are the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:00 AM
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Isn't really news to anyone -- OP is right, most of the guys there aren't looking for something serious and the ones who say they are, are usually lying. A lot of liars, misogynists, fuckboys, or red flag guys like OP on there, especially emboldened by the "lying to and hurting women is okay" online rhetoric. that's why women are there are so distrustful of the guys on the apps and don't use those apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:03 AM
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No. I used to think I wanted this, but I realized this has never worked out for any couple I've seen. The guy almost always ends up cheating and not holding up his part of the bargain of childcare and housework. Most men on reddit thinking about being SAHD are loud and honest about how little work they will do as SAHD, how they want to take advantage of women, and how chill and relaxing it would be. Hard pass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:32 AM
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it is a thing but it's not so simple to the point that men always have no value in society and women always do. making an oversimplified, vague, broad generalization so you don't have anything concrete to say or debate is childish whining and not a real discussion. gender bias is complicated than that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:29 AM
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you probably need to go to the city more. just a while ago I saw a middle aged homeless lady having a mental health crisis and running through the streets naked screaming at people. busy street, everyone trying to ignore her and yelling at her to get out the way. almost got hit by a couple cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:56 PM
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why would a manosphere man with trad values want a highly paid, masculine dressing, career lady in a pixie cut though? wouldn't they be filtered out? I don't dress less feminine to filter those guys out on purpose, I do it because I want to be taken more seriously at work. but it would be an added benefit. I have a naturally high pitched voice, but since i've started working I keep my voice a little lower and never dress too "girly" in the office. Not to elizabeth holmes levels though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:45 PM
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most people don't do more than polite indifference for strangers. that's it. you're overestimating how much society cares about friendless socially inept unattractive loser women. Both of us have probably passed by homeless women and homeless men and we just kept going and ignored them right? same deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:04 PM
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value is subjective. PPD guys keep saying men have no value and women have value because they think the "how much straight men want to fuck you" metric should speak for all of society. they're only talking about sex too, ask them about anything else like whose opinion, political rights, status, happiness and desires matter more.. and then you'll see how little they actually value women outside of that one metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:29 PM
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No, I think they just get targeted more because manosphere womenhating men are more into that kind of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:52 PM
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Yes, and not because women "deserve" it for being feminine, but because a growing fraction of men and boys are increasingly misogynistic in a frightening way. This risk is growing every year. You can see it from how young kids idolize Andrew Tate, boys nowadays have more hate towards women than their boomer grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:28 PM
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Liar. Did you not read that the difference in grading between girls and boys was negligible and not statistically significant? if you claim to have read it, why are you misrepresenting and lying about it? Our analysis of teachers’ evaluations of the correctness of students’ work suggested that teachers did not grade student work differently based on the students’ gender and race (see Fig. 2). Similarly, teachers’ evaluations of students’ effort did not differ by the students’ gender or race (Fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:30 AM
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https://stemeducationjournal.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40594-023-00420-z
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:00 AM
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Nope, pretty sure you are. You are cherrypicking studies that show social bias in favor of women when there are many that show social bias against women. i'm not saying there is never bias against men, I'm sure sometimes there are. but pretending there is only bias against men and never against women and ignoring the many areas misogyny is pervasive is 100% bad faith. There are many studies done that show teachers favor boys in certain subjects and assume even low performing ones are better at m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:01 PM
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this is me talking out of my ass, but I think extreme misogyny and misandry among teens or young adults is just not enough life experience. At some point in their 20s most will chill out. Everyone will meet shitty people of their own gender and good people from the opposite gender eventually. and most people with opposite gender related trauma eventually take their ass to a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:01 AM
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people here keep bringing up that survey of a hundred or so college students from what, 20 years ago? about female in group bias. Old study, small sample size, probably biased from young liberal college kids. can't tell if they're pretending or seriously think their "findings" about female nature can be extrapolated to billions of people across all countries and cultures across the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:42 AM
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No, you're wrong. the one that has been passed around PPD was a study that asked more about perceptions of agreeability and intimidation based on gender. of course, people generally perceived women to be more agreeable and less intimidating. agreeability and less intimidating does not mean women are perceived to be more "wonderful". look around PPD. You can perceive women to be polite, less intimidating, and still think they are shallow, stupid, annoying, inferior, less important than men, and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:29 AM
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isn't there a lot of male in-group bias already? a lot of "bros over hoes" and suspicion of women sucking in male dominated jobs and immediate bullying of women joining male dominated hobbies and men usually believe men over women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 11:58 PM
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As much as I think the "equality authority" said and did some stupid things, I think you are blaming too many things on feminism. You know there is no direct link between some men being NEETs and feminism, but you blame feminism anyway. of course it is bad men are being neglected. I'd support any advocates for men's issues as long as they truly want to find real solutions and real direct causes for those issues, instead of blaming the feminism boogeyman for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:10 PM
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Well you are so vague, and the stories are so strange, it would be silly and gullible of me to believe you immediately. What feminist theory caused your sister to prank you with porn? Porn that she found in a forest? How many feminists do you think there are? It is an enormous community with a lot of disagreement. There are transphobic feminists, racist feminists, there are feminists who treat men terribly. But I would not toss out the core idea of feminism because in a movement this large, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:09 AM
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I think you are misattributing things in your culture, school bullies, and your family issues, to feminism. I am not sure what feminism has to do with your bullies or your sister pranking or bullying you with porn? Or for your sister and mom to be domineering? Feminism does not force society to neglect men. We do not focus on men's issues, because we should stay on topic and it's also not our place to speak for men. we might not know what are men's problems as well and how to help the best way, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:12 AM
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Can you give an example of the behavior of these moms and these female teachers who cause these boys to be timid shut ins? What are they doing that is wrong, and different from what dads and male teachers would be doing? Concrete examples and solutions for improvement, instead of vague blamey feelings please.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:41 PM
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If someone gets "RP rage" from something as innocuous as this, doesn't it say a lot about them? OP is just trying to cheer some guys up and say "don't worry champ, she's not worth it". But literally every tiny bit of cheering up or positivity is being misinterpreted as "this is how the entire universe works, you've been promised this 100%, and if life is a little bit more complicated, feel free to fly off the handle". Why are you and so many people here treating these guys with kid gloves? They …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:03 PM
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Is feminism and moms the only reasons why "timid boys aren't assertive, capable, speak their minds and go for what they want"? Is there any evidence for that being widespread? It just sounds like the same old schtick of blaming women and running from accountability. If boys aren't masculine enough, where are their dads? Why aren't they teaching their kids assertive and masculine confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:28 PM
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Maybe a male gamer who expected sexy fanservice would not enjoy the game as much, but maybe a female gamer who doesn't care, would enjoy the game regardless and be happy to customize a character to look as average as she does irl lol. Not everything is supposed to be sexy fanservice for men only. Some movies, magazines, and video games are marketed towards a more general audience or towards women. If someone gets mad that they went to a vegan restaurant and they can't order meat, isn't it entitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:12 AM
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If it is you in your photo, I don't think your face is the problem. You are cute. I'm not trying to be polite, a decent number of girls should be into that. idk if its your location or dating app gender ratios or something else, but you look fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:45 AM
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I think OP is exaggerating a bit, but I get the general gist. A moody autistic teenage boy, who is larger, got lots of testosterone, and usually the target for more echo chambers online, may be viewed more suspiciously than a moody autistic teenage girl. Still though, try to not be too dismissive of other people's problems. Autistic women have their own challenges too. If you make this a pattern, like constantly making light of other peoples issues but expecting them to respect yours, people are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:09 AM
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Aspiring women who want to be rich can now DIY it, and not all women are that ambitious or willing to fuck someone they're not attracted to for money. Times have changed, men aren't women's only meal tickets anymore. the rules of the game that women are forced to play were different before. Society kept us from working and higher education and forced us to rely on men, so women saw men as meal tickets, investments, key to survival, the only path to a better life. So they'd invest 100% in their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:17 AM
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If your mom was off being a breadwinner, why couldn't your dad be the homemaker? why do you care that your business executive mom can't "make a home" lmao, she could just hire some help to do it. if she's loaded and has better shit to do at work, why do you want her to do performative housework for some hypothetical, traditional, strict gender role man? Pretend to defer to some average dude and suck up with some tradwife nonsense when her time and skills are worth more than his? This is kinda sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:22 AM
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Dude not everyone will know exactly what you want, where you're at, and give you the perfect advice. online esp, no one can tell how awkward you are in front of women, whether it's cute and wholesome or whether it's off putting and rude. plus everyone has their own biases from what worked for them. expecting perfect advice is ridiculous and people being off doesn't mean they were trying to brainwash you. The average person giving advice does not care enough to intentionally fuck you over with ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:30 AM
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Yep that is true, probably could have added that disclaimer. Especially when women talk to strangers or acquaintances, especially with men we don't know well. If we know you well, trust you can handle some criticism or negativity, and are comfortable around you we'll be more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:36 PM
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Idk if it's "normal female language", it's "normal language" period. People who don't know you are going to give you wishy washy generic advice. People, both men and women, will personalize their advice based on who's asking. A unattractive guy or a guy with a shitty/whiny/bitter personality is going to hear the "fix your personality, be more social, stop being an ass" advice. if thats the advice TRP guys get from people who actually know them... they should really wonder why that's the case
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:05 PM
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Most guys on PPD don't use the words "forced to", they usually use words like "shaming their high standards" and social and cultural "conditioning". They want some influence or control over female sexuality because female agency and choice has gotta be wrong, we can't be trusted for that. what about men, the ones who really matter, etc. basically men here need some control and influence, but not too much to the point where it's obviously rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:11 AM
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that almost never happens. there is almost no consequences to skipping child support in most states and the states that do criminalize skipping payments while being able to pay, rarely enforce the law
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:07 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:16 PM
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No idea what you're talking about...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:41 PM
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Hope you don't end up lied to or intimidated or manipulated or victimized like the women you're blaming. Good luck! I hope the leopards don't eat your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:10 AM
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The same thing as men but vagina and no penis
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:27 PM
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It's not sharing money that will make men see you as an equal. You can't really control that. Don't be fooled, a lot of men don't value caretakers but they also don't value career women either. It's often the case with men complaining about women. there are no real rules, just inconsistent ones and moving goalposts. But I do agree that women should have careers and be providers but out of interest for our own safety. Always have the money and skills to leave if the mask drops. Many of the PPD gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:50 PM
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I think OP is right that women aren't always blunt and honest about this to men, but not for the reasons he thinks. Morality has little to do with it, most of us don't think it's immoral to enjoy a hot piece of ass. It's probably more that she doesn't want to hurt people's feelings, both out of being nice and trying to avoid being sent personalized insults, threats or hate mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:59 AM
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the size of an ostrich egg when it comes out? sounds painful asf But the rest sounds cool though. the idea of sitting on eggs together is adorable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:27 PM
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Well that convinced me lol. you and other similar American men are so much more respectful, pleasant to be around, selfless, and less narcissistic than american women. good luck to the ladies overseas, he seems like a real catch. american women and our dusty snatches will sit this one out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:56 AM
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I'll happily be exhibit A lol, I'll be all the exhibits. I'll say it again to rub it in lol, women deserve a nice good self serving life like any man out there. Stay mad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:38 AM
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How is that a bad thing? every woman should look out for number one, just like men usually look out for themselves as well. why would a random man be more important to me than me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:38 PM
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I wonder what OP is trying to achieve with this besides trying to throw shade. If some American men detest American women so much, they are free to not date American women. Except they will not shut up about not wanting to date American women. can they just walk out the door and close it without bitching the entire way out? It also sounds like they should look inward to see if they're projecting, it takes some narcissism, arrogance, and whininess to say this about American women based on some "t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:32 PM
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I actually disagree with a lot of people here. It also works the other way. If you reject a guy friend, even if he wants to stay friends because he's lonely and is okay with platonic company, most of the time it's better for both of you to stop being friends. There is a chance he's the kind of guy to seethe and hold a grudge against you for rejecting him, and there's a healthy online community of internet boys who will tell him you're a shallow evil manipulative bitch for staying friends with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:51 PM
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Where did he misrepresent anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:39 PM
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Outside of slinging accusations, do you have ANY specific examples
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:18 PM
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more likely you're gaslighting yourself then "all of society trying to gaslight you" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:23 PM
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honest question, why do RP/incel guys act like they just woke up from a coma and society finding fit, athletic, confident men more attractive is huge, surprising news to them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:08 AM
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he does a lot of research into his videos and cites his sources. what specifically does he misrepresent? you can hate on his personality, but his mild sass is much less grating on my ears than the self centered, whiny, bitter, spiteful immaturity of the people he tends to criticize.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:06 AM
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Did not say that anywhere, but AGAIN I'll go along with your subject change. I think both environment and biology plays a part, pretty normal take. What about you, what do you think? If social pressure, culture and shaming were enough to change someone's innate sexuality and identity, then the christians would have converted everyone who's LGBTQ+ , wouldn't they?most people have a preferred type for their partner. If you coerce or shame them to deviate too much from what they like, they'll be fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:31 AM
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First of all, it's a little irritating that when you make a dubious point and someone responds, you ignore it and continue making more. Yes, glad we agree body positivity, gender roles, and social shaming people into faking sexual/physical attraction are different things. Yes, it is sad the buff woman has more options than the soft boy, but life is unequal. More horny men = women have more options for casual sex. More stronger men = more women are easily intimidated. etc. etc. Why would feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:00 PM
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How is it a double standard? If the body positivity movement wasn't asking men to find larger women sexually attractive, why would you be able to push for women to find shorter/awkward/shy guys attractive? It would be consistent for both movements to not make other peoples' sexual attraction an unnatural, socially coerced obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:12 PM
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Wow, she looks happy to be there
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:21 AM
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Are you still in university or often around women who are your age group? Sometimes making good connections can help people put things in context. you can find good qualities in other people and share vulnerable things about your past. it goes without saying, that needs to be with people you've build up trust with, and done in a way that reasonable people would be receptive to. Kids can be stupid and cruel, sure some stay that way but many mature and grow up. I used to hate jocks and cheerleader…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/23 12:54 AM
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Why actively try to be the cringey creepy probably socially unaware guy though? You know that people at the bar and other girls are warning each other of you and you're getting the "ick" look. People try hard to avoid being seen as you, why lean into being the slimy asshole outcast?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:49 AM
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From my perspective, it's the opposite way around. Men are constantly telling us we are shallow for having physical preferences and to adjust them. Sometimes I have to be really vague and polite about what I find attractive when someone asks. Because inevitably it's an interrogation about how unfair, shallow, and bitchy I am being. I wish I was living in OP's dream world
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:48 PM
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From PPD, I know that every offhand comment your friend or your parents make, every romance trope in all of pop culture, all this unorganized random stuff all of society says about relationships, all that is "women's/bluepill advice" but now we're getting to the point that even redpilled advice is bluepill. Now "work on yourself, be a hustler, men age better, you'll get a younger woman when you're older" is blamed on women and bluepill. absolutely hilarious. makes me realize how much of a joke a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:09 AM
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it's convenient for you to define feminism into something easier for you to attack. it's convenient for you to define hatred to something that's extremely narrow, as if all hateful bigots need to explicitly admit to wanting to "beat, torture, subjugate and sexually abuse women" to be considered a hateful bigot. all progressive movements of this size have some extreme radical fringes. and plenty of healthy disagreement about what "equality" looks like. I don't expect perfection from everyone in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:34 AM
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Hating on feminism like any other movement for equality IS hateful vitriol. you may as well say the Civil Rights movement is "people of color who think all white people are predatory scum by default" etc. It's creating a silly strawman, isn't it so convenient that the strawman is easy to attack? Feminism is not "heartless women who seem to think anybody with a penis is predatory scum by default who doesn't deserve chances, or support, or encouragement". I'm a feminist, and that's some wild, ridi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:17 AM
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idk, the "common straw man" of guys being bitter of not "getting" women seems to pop up really often on this sub. not really buying that these are accurate generalizations and not a personal opinion why do promiscuous people bother you so much? I don't want to date promiscuous men either, just because I don't vibe well with people who focus on sex that much and creepy previous experiences, but their lives are none of my business. what's the need in being bitchy and passive aggressive and preachy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:04 PM
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Pretty sure the moral grandstanding is BS, men feel vengeance and bitterness and want to retaliate against others, happens on this sub even. Even if men were incapable of feeling vengeance, anyone with self respect is gonna burn bridges with someone being a mean whiny selfish childish twat. And real life doesn't line up with crazy gender generalizations like that, that's just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:38 AM
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In that case we had a misunderstanding. When you were discussing male loneliness, you were complaining and contrasting it with womens issues. so I assumed you meant women were the cause or related somehow. Thanks for clarifying, so you mean just loneliness and not as not having sexual or romantic partners. If you ONLY mean general loneliness, then i don't think we disagree. sure I am down for funding "special programs that help men to overcome their crippling anxiety" and stuff like that. Mental…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:21 AM
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If there was an epidemic of lonely, disabled, disfigured women or gay men who wanted sex with men, is their desire to fuck straight men more important than men having the right to vote? Most people have friends of the same gender, should men's loneliness epidemic be blamed on other men? If women were unable to have basic human contact and compassion, wouldn't we blame women for not making fulfilling friendships with each other? Say that lonely women need to get it together? there is an empathy g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:34 AM
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Yes I would because I have self preservation instincts. Without the right to vote and political power, I could be discriminated against on account of my gender to not get higher education, loans, a bank account, or legal protection from being raped or assaulted or forced to have kids. My desire for self preservation is stronger than my sympathy for a guy needing to wank in his hand instead of a vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:47 AM
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are you really comparing the right to vote, against the right to fuck women when most don't want to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:21 PM
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It's a little childish to request sources then run away and bitch about the sidebar and not read them. But that's on me tbh, I really shouldn't have expected better from someone with that flair. Alright, I'll head out then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:25 AM
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Where did I change the goalposts? The goalpost was always "redpill is hateful towards women", not moving that one bit lol. Where did I beg the question because I assumed the conclusion? I don't need to assume shit, I can go into that sub and drag out some hot steamy redpill truths straight from the source. You can quit the sassy little /r/iamverysmart attitude with the sidebar content lol. I'll "posit" that "minutiae" absolutely counts, that's where all the introduction stuff to redpill and "red…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:02 AM
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Of course, when the premise of disrespect, spite, and low opinion of women is already widely shared and agreed upon, you're not going to have posts constantly repeating it. Why would you be rehashing "should we hate POC" at a neo-nazi rally? it's the same deal. I can easily go to the links on the sidebar of that sub to learn about "red pill theory" and find out how mentally I'm a teenager because I'm a woman, I'm irresponsible and stupid by default, how little my opinion should matter to men, ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:23 AM
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sounds like no true scotsman. can't really buy it when the redpill subreddit is full of the most vicious misogyny I've ever seen. Felt like I was a black person stumbling on a KKK rally there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:56 PM
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Redpillers don't hate women? Redpillers accept female preferences? Redpillers don't blame women? The redpillers are one of the loudest ones who say the most spiteful, sexist and angry shit towards women in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:21 PM
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i'm sure those kinds of guys exist and good for them if they try to stay undetected, many women and me included will just keep our eyes peeled for them then. thank you for the warning though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:37 AM
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Yeah I agree 100% that double standard is a red flag. There's a high chance the guy is a self absorbed narcissist if he thinks his own standards don't apply to him. Or he thinks he deserves to do so because "evolutionary psychology" says he deserves to be a dick to women but never the other way around. There are crazy guys out there nowadays, lucky that you found someone before all this shit went mainstream. I feel like things get worse and worse every year :(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:07 AM
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Just wondering... I can't be the only woman who gets turned off if a guy has a lot of casual sex, right? Fuckboy behavior usually correlates with a ton of issues I don't want to deal with. I don't want to be a dick about it, or call people "whores" and "sluts" like many men do here. But I have asked and filtered out people I was dating for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:28 PM
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Well that is certainly an opinion. I have never met someone who prefers to be valued as a fuckable sack of meat, as just a warm body and not as someone with talent, skills, power and respect. If you prefer "sex value of a human body" over "value of socioeconomic power", then you can work the street corner while someone else climbs the corporate ladder. just a thought, given your definition a rich male CEO is less valued than the homeless lady who's a prostitute but if society values her more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:23 AM
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Sorry, they're just so mysterious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:26 AM
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We could also have the gender flipped versions of OP's stories. If we need feel bad romantic subplots for women as well. For instance, the main character could be a plain faced, homely girl who is so sweet and kind and has a lot in common with the male love interest. but the male love interest is a masochist who only cares about looks and chases a much hotter, more confident girl who uses him for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:59 PM
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Guess I'm just as "deluded" as redpillers in this sub. maybe just as deluded as you, since in the very next sentence you're acting like me praising general self improvement means me praising the "strategies redpill preaches" lmao, acting like redpill owns the idea Also with the pissy little digs at women.. aren't you completely proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:40 AM
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redpill is an incoherent mess. lots of faux surprise at "women find hot successful men attractive?? huh?? since when???" and taking credit for inventing the concept of self improvement and going to the gym. Then the rest is a gender war circlejerk. you can save so much time by just going to the gym, improving your own life, and meeting people through hobbies. while the pilled guys waste theirs on circlejerking, buying classes from scammers and bonding over their shared hatred of women on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:59 PM
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They'd probably be into harem animes, right? like PPD says, most guys want variety and less commitment. it's more about prestige than any specific woman. the male bodice ripper is probably five or more women chasing the male protagonist who is some average nerdy guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:11 PM
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It doesn't stop them from trying to be fuckboys. by lowering their standards, pretending to want relationships when they want casual, and matching with literally everyone. Esp in certain age ranges, like early to mid 20s men. if the supply of thirsty dudes has flooded the market you'd expect women to be pickier and able to be more hypergamous, and men to have less collective bargaining power, because clearly they've traded it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:09 PM
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speaking in generalizations - how is women's pickiness power? whereas men's lack of pickiness, a desire to be a fuckboy and to be much more sexually promiscuous for social validation, not power? both thirst/promiscuity and pickiness affect the dating market. if the federal reserve uses the money printer excessively, and the currency gets devalued or inflation spikes up, we wouldn't say it never had power. Having no power because it got used, squandered, or traded in a sense, is not the same thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:14 AM
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I would pay to watch that..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:34 PM
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If some men have low opinions of women (see them in this very thread) and we should be replaced by sexbots anyway, what's the trouble with giving them what they want? if they want to replace human intimacy with chatGPT, isn't that making them happier? caring about their feelings and respecting their choice means giving them sexbots. then those men will be even more productive and incentivized to contribute to society. Everyone wins, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:52 PM
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And where does Quasimoda who "treats a man excellently" fall into that formula?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:26 PM
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True lol.. they just don't match and mind their own business. if anyone I knew decided to randomly rant on twitter about the kind of people that they want to fuck, I might think they were oversharing lol but if they aren't trying to be a dick I really couldn't care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:00 PM
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most people don't give a fuck about anyones preferences. as long as you don't jump on a podium and start preaching about morals or whining about the existence of people you don't want to fuck, like a self important twat
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:59 PM
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did FDS view men as depreciating property? we both know you're comparing apples to much smaller, much less extreme and violent, apples
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:19 AM
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No, but crime stats are what they are. And there aren't organized communities of women trying to convince other women to lie to men, disrespect them, and view men as depreciating property
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:37 AM
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You can prefer choice over the issues women encounter when dating, but that's still a subjective "choice" you're making. Do I wish I had much less choice but also much less likely to meet a well disguised, lying misogynist who "takes what he can get", malds about women on internet communities, has abusive and narc tendencies and thinks women are depreciating assets? Yes, and I think plenty of women here would agree with me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:34 AM
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I don't disagree with parental controls so kids don't get suckered into it but shouldn't adult men make their own choices on whether they want an AI girlfriend? On PPD, personal accountability doesn't apply to men. Seemingly that only applies to women when we need to be shamed for something. Are we really supposed to micromanage antisocial adult men from having video games or porn or sexyChatGPT addictions?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:14 PM
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Hard to sass back after being called a sock
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:55 PM
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it's kinda funny to be called a sock lol. thanks for the chuckle fam
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:05 PM
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Must be inconvenient for you Tate can't keep his mouth shut and keeps on bragging and texting about being a rapist, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:47 PM
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Racists, homophobes, and pedophiles also "lie and don't tell the whole truth sometimes", we still should doxx hateful misogynists and bigots and abusers of all kinds to keep people safe. Andrew "I love raping you" Tate, the human trafficker? Yeah men with "certain views" lol. the certain view is men should get away with raping women and threatening, abusing, and intimidating them so they can't leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:46 PM
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Well, this is why we need to out men like you, liars and abusers and misogynists like you should be documented on those facebook groups. It keeps other women safe. PPD should be happy we have those, since you are all so obsessed with us avoiding shitty men and liars like OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:28 PM
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bro I'm just talking about guys like MoldovaImComing. He's quite a character and I just thought it was rich coming from someone like him
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:09 AM
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I work in this field, I can see my guy friends in similar roles play video games during work hours through discord. Perhaps they're lying about their productivity? You can't trust data that polls men, we know how they are about telling the truth /s Kidding, but anyways, I don't mind if a man more qualified than me gets the job, I do mind if the interviewer has so much spite for women and love of men that he wouldn't test each individual on their own merits. if you want to argue that sexual discr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:03 AM
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the presence and numbers of misogynists, racists, homophobes, or toxic people of any type, means very little. people like to follow the mob and the more insecure, less competent ones tend to be the loudest ones complaining about the minorities. I just don't mind them at work, they can mald as much as they want but I'll let my work itself do the talking. STEM businesses are forced to hire women by the law? can you share what specific law you're talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:11 AM
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I'm actually a software engineer at a large company and unfortunately the days of being antisocial quiet loner coders are behind us. I was bummed too, you actually do need to hold meetings and collaborate and do demos and minor presentations and talk to stakeholders and help train new hires and conduct interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:51 AM
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I'm not saying women have better personalities in general, I'm saying the whiny bitter lazy NEET men who complain about career women's personalities being unsuited for work are being hilariously self unaware.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:21 AM
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How are those professional roles more suitable for "male personalities"? Don't career women have more suitable personalities for professional work than the whiny misogynist NEETs who complain about them? I don't see why a guy like that who has no ambition, drive, social ability or accountability for their own lives would deserve the job over a better qualified woman with a better personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:55 AM
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Speaking generally and anecdotally, some women I've known are fantastic, supportive friends during good times, but had terrible conflict resolution skills. That includes me too, over the years, I've had to learn to be more straightforward, initiate more, less afraid of conflict, more calm, have better boundaries and less passive aggressive. Tbf I don't think the maturity problem is specific to women, esp after seeing how some guys act in this sub. And I don't think I'm all that mature either, gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:49 PM
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This is exactly what I've seeing... there are bitter guys here who take one preference from one individual woman, and pretend she meant it as the single, only, criteria for all womankind, and then start a "never listen to women!!" hissy fit. I'm really hoping some of the guys who do this are actual children. Teenagers get a pass, everyone over 20 might be actually hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:23 PM
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Yes, I noticed they're brought up on PPD lol, just very differently. i've learned from redpillers that if women pick bad men, if women are bad people, and if men pick bad women, the blame is on the women. also if men are bad people, the blame is on their moms. PPD really has a bone to pick with us lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:49 AM
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If a woman told me unprompted that there is no benefit to choosing a poor man if you have options, and wrote a whole post comparing one guy that made 50k vs one that made 500k, I'd think she was being a complete diva. No one really cares about anyone's preferences, no matter how sassy or passive aggressive that person is being. it's kind of weird you feel the need to share and tell everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:41 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure you see it very differently than me. would be great if women were held to a different moral code when picking partners and men were not. I'm sure it would be very convenient for certain people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:46 PM
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Yes. sometimes. If you want to clutch more pearls, we also burp and pick our noses..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:56 AM
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Are women not allowed to be sometimes wrong? This entire post and thread is strange, like it upsets you and other men so much that we make human mistakes. We also poop and pass gas, is that not okay for us to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:44 AM
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unless someone is being abused and needs an intervention, it's none of my business if people are into assholes... and if there was abuse going on, it'd be weird to focus on the "right" people the victims should've been fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:36 AM
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Men never complain about crazy partners or ex partners? I know men are just better, more logical, and less emotional than females like me, but I doubt that for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:20 PM
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then why don't you amend the title, and specify you mean ugly abusers specifically? instead of just having one sentence saying these abusers are typically ugly (with zero evidence too.) FTFY - how about "no one wants to acknowledge women are consistently going for ugly, fat, abusive, bad natured, men who show their glaring red flags on the first date with zero redeeming qualities?" make if obvious if you want to lead the witness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:16 PM
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It's almost as if PPD is obsessed with women getting duped or choosing badly. How dare women get conned or put sexual attraction first? That's a privilege that the females don't deserve, but if you're a man, then carry on. Men going after hot women with character flaws? Never a topic here. Women going after hot men with character flaws? weekly, maybe daily, post complaining about it. And I'd love to know where OP is from, extrapolating women being into straight up dangerous criminals like it's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:27 PM
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who is promising ugly men that? Finding someone who matches your looks is usually what people say here. are you sure you're not misunderstanding that person or embellishing? saying "I noticed these couples and it's possible though pretty rare" is not the same as "it's common and normal for the woman to be gorgeous and the man to be ugly". I get the feeling OP isn't a reliable narrator here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:39 AM
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again where and what is the propaganda? sounds like you're being intentionally vague on purpose. Tell me one specific piece of "bluepill propaganda" that EXPLICITLY says the stuff you attributed to bluepill. How is bluepill a "just world" that women will charity fuck men without thinking of ourselves and our physical sexual needs as well? That women are rewards for good behavior? sounds chilling and dystopian to me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:07 PM
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you sound like a reasonable guy whose anecdotes about women are 100% factual, unbiased and unembellished. with the full context. while you acted like a saint the whole time too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:57 PM
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Oh come on are you serious. let's just be honest you and me. its a fucking cringe lie that they're telling themselves. Or they have a learning disability. No normal grown man is having a "epiphany" that women like fit, successful, attractive men. there is no bluepill propaganda. mainstream society was never conspiring to make men less fuckable to women. Any teenage kid could look at the popular boys the girls like and notice a pattern. If someone is too thick to get it, that's on them and not "b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:48 AM
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Who was lying to them? Anyone could see that women are sometimes flawed, horny, shallow, selfish human beings-- just like men. You're making up a fantasy version of women that women never promised you, to feel bitter and vindictive and justify your hatred and abuse of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 10:55 PM
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I get the sense from OP and a lot of guys creating angry generalizations about all women in the comments that you're unreliable narrators. I bet if we got the real full stories, it was probably shouting, violence, psychological issues, red flags or other character flaws shown during those emotional outbursts that usually made the women leave. If all their girlfriends in the past ALL hated when they shared emotions, it's likely they're the problem themselves. the same logic as if everyone who you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:37 PM
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If I pretended that men liking boobs, makeup, long legs and shaved body hair was new information to me, and started belittling and shitting on men on the internet for daring to have preferences, I'd be the female equivalent of redpill. It's two steps - pretend other people made you some ridiculous, selfless promise, and then get insulted and lash out when they're human. We all knew women are flawed, diverse, sometimes self serving, horny human beings with sexual preferences. Not charities that g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 10:36 AM
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more women homeowners, all from divorce settlements? If men get 50% and women are working as well, why aren't they asking for the house in the divorce? would love to see the source, sounds like you made it up. Maybe we're just better at saving up? if women are overachieving in modern society, this may just be the natural hierarchy. I don't think we need to upset the natural order, for people who just can't hack it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:24 PM
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this is some nutty conspiracy stuff... Women are told and judged all the time for how to "keep a man" lol, and man equally have the ability to get a woman's assets, just after changing his mind that he isn't happy. you're just making up shit to feel bad for yourself. If you and a bunch of bitter kids stuck in their revenge victim fantasy leave "western society", no one will miss any of you. Please go ahead and go
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:14 PM
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Good for them. The FBI also tracks racist extremists as well sexist extremists just fyi. All violent extremist movements should be tracked to some extent, if just for analysis purposes. Not sure this shocks people here. it's like they want to get on their podium advocating for hate and abuse, but it's "too far" if someone writes their name down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:28 AM
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OP hasn't proved that it's only because of physical attraction that women are rejecting men more on the apps. If women want long term relationships like OP thinks, they would be rejecting more. For politics, educational background, religion, humor in the profile, distance, financial stability, similar hobbies, similar physical attractiveness to keep the guy around long term, etc. 95% sounds about right, lol. OP, you already have what you want -- women leaving and avoiding the apps and being mild…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:31 AM
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Some dogs aren't loyal unconditionally, either. Imagine if you stop feeding your dog, giving it attention, maybe you kick it from time to time, and it runs away. Hard pill to swallow too imo It really sucks that women, men, or dogs care about themselves at all. Why care about ourselves when we can care about OP? Once we all love him more than ourselves, for his self and uniqueness, the world will be a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:03 AM
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I'm really curious what OP is trying to achieve. How many times do we need to hear the "women have some advantages over men" point over and over again? Do we have to pretend it's new info every time that men are hornier and do more initiating? what is it that makes people bring it up over and over and over and over again?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:07 PM
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it's disinformation that I don't like. A bunch of half truths and lies trying to imply theres no similar movement or empathy towards men for something.. oh but wait there was. idk the point of all that lying and monologuing when there are real issues like the draft and workplace safety. the comments are doing a better job for mens issues than OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:22 AM
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I 100% am down for listening to men's issues but not disinformation. sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:20 PM
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#BringBackOurBoys was trending for kidnapped Boko Haram boys. Titanic is cherrypicked, in the 18 most famous shipwrecks, just 17.8 percent of women survived compared to 34.5 percent of men. It's usually not "women and children first", it's "every man for himself" in a life or death situation. That lady on the view got a lot of flack. Theres plenty of tweets under the #KillAllWomen hashtag. Audiences are just more uncomfortable with sexual violence than other types of violence on screen. OP, your…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:32 PM
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and you're the one who went off once one woman mentioned pregnancy sucks. There's always a guy on PPD who comes sprinting to any conversation where a woman mentions any sort of suffering, to turn it into a compare gender woes circlejerk. And make it all about men and play victim olympics. Looks like that's you this time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:13 PM
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is it possible to say women suffer at all on PPD without a guy jumping in and saying some man in some completely unrelated situation had it worse? you guys are the type of people who start dick measuring their victimhood whenever your friend breaks a leg or gets a c section or goes through any kind of pain or loss. Anyone else goes through a tough time? not allowed, you gotta talk over them and compare compare compare, everything is about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:06 PM
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men likely lie and manipulate as much as women do, and idk the relevance there. my grandparents lived through a world war, my grandma got beaten badly for protesting against communists, when my parents grew up, almost everyone was hungry and there was just never enough food. they would've really set me straight if i whined constantly about why the pretty rich girls got the new phone or could stay out late or got some present or some boys attention etc. Some of today's kids want their parents and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:29 AM
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Treating this nonsense with kid gloves is how teens nowadays become spoiled bitter irresponsible lazy misogynists or racists or transphobes to begin with. if i said or did shitty things to a classmate my mom would've dragged me to their house and then beat my ass. kids nowadays really think they can spout hate speech and insults, but other people need to baby them, police their own language and speak to them softly and pat them on the head. This really is the whiniest, laziest, most spoiled gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:28 PM
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I completely disagree, the redpill guys usually cross the line with insults and misogynistic generalizations before anyone starts poking fun at them. And furthermore, people don't deserve any respect that they don't show others. Taking them even a little bit seriously, is more than they deserve. If someone advocates for abusing, hurting, or looking down at others, they shouldn't be surprised and clutch their pearls when their own toxicity is returned to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:58 PM
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Is this a copypasta? we should make it a copypasta
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:33 PM
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I don't think a lot of men who struggle are that type of person though -- there is a lot of rage, misogyny, bitterness, lack of interest in self improvement and socializing, attitude issues, that causes them to be in that situation. But for the guys who do struggle and are genuinely well meaning good people, of course most people have sympathy for him. It's just that we don't have to power to change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:45 AM
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Yes, chasing women who aren't into you is a waste of time. If someone isn't responding or always busy or has very bluntly told you no, it's good manners to just stop. For your own dignity and for their peace of mind as well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:25 PM
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some kids just need to be spanked, so they don't end up like this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:33 PM
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Spoiled, angry, bitter little boy then. got it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:21 PM
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I see.. sounds like mutually unattached fuckbuddies then. esp with no one caring enough to want to be exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:20 PM
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nah, I'd rather tell normal kids to be normal and throw all the spoiled, angry, bitter little boys into the ocean
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:16 PM
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Calm down lol, I did not call you a redpiller. But whatever pill you think you are, you're doing the same misinterpretations of stuff like "just be yourself" that many of them do. Why do I need to read that nonsense again? Redpill doesn't own the idea of going to the gym and self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:16 AM
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where did I do that? there is nothing wrong with being autistic, I'm only saying it would be a legitimate reason for why someone might've missed out on stuff that was obvious to everyone else. i'm sick and tired of redpillers making wild extrapolations and misinterpretations of "just be yourself". we all know it's usually said to help someone relax and it doesn't mean "self improvement is unnecessary". It's irritating that yall can't be honest and say you're misinterpreting on purpose to push th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:14 AM
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oh come on, be honest to yourself and to me. We all already knew those things. Women generally liking social, high achieving, attractive men? was never a secret. any of you who aren't on spectrum and are out of high school are lying to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:58 AM
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Just for you, I promise that for the densest kids in the class, we will have a 10hr lecture on the concept "women find hot men hot"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:42 AM
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I don't think you see my point. "go to the gym" and "be more social" and "present yourself as your most attractive" is not redpill advice by itself. That much was obvious to anyone with a brain. The only thing redpill added to that basic advice, that you say works, was contempt for women and armchair evopsych nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:39 AM
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Redpill is popular because it tells people what they want to hear. They want to hear women are deserving of hate and abuse, and that if any man in existence can get away with abusing a woman, they deserve to abuse their own woman too. Also they have zero blame for their own dating troubles, because society kept that "women generally like physically fit, attractive, social, successful men" a secret from them. Knowing that and trying to get those qualities is a tough pill to swallow apparently, re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:20 AM
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some guys clearly struggle with the concept that women care about looks and are allowed to do so. so maybe yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:06 AM
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especially with all the ghosting going on and no one trying to "lock you down" long term, it sounds like these are fuckbuddies who aren't that serious about your arrangement with them. Not really sure how this counts as a harem? Or is this what people are calling a harem nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:45 PM
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Isn't this the "point" of the manosphere? "Hurting and dehumanizing women is okay" is the conclusion that they want to hear. Some of them just don't want to be blunt and say it out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:13 AM
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Red pill, with all the same ideas but without the misogyny, IS "blue pill". Almost everyone knew that looks, financial security, and confidence matters, but redpillers pretend they discovered those ideas. The only difference is that they added misogyny to it. Without the misogyny, you just get "get social skills, have financial security and go to the gym" from redpill. That's groundbreaking, truly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:05 AM
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Looking through this sub, I'm starting to see that this is really all about poor parenting and spoiled children. These kids grow up with no authority they respect and are constantly making excuses for treating others like shit and blaming other people for their own toxic behavior. They seem fixated on women for some of it, but you can bet they blame all their other problems on other people as well. Where were their dads? Why weren't their dads nipping their laziness, whininess and victim mentali…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:26 PM
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If the girl you're trying to hit on doesn't stop her friend from intervening and politely heads out with them, she wanted to do that all along or is so drunk she should be helped out by a friend. She has free will, you know. that thread really gave me the ick... Hopefully the shitposters stay at home in their basements and far away from women, I'm just so completely grossed out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:35 AM
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Why are the only options manosphere grifters who want your attention and ad revenue and you to pay for their stupid courses?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:38 PM
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Dude of COURSE women and men do the exact same thing Yes, bitching about misogyny is so much worse than bitching about women being illogical. Have your priorities in order, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:55 AM
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And you're illustrating mine? Some people are really invested in making misogyny acceptable, whereas saying the same stuff about black people would probably get you insta banned. Aren't they a bunch of bitter little boys? Normal people don't spend circlejerking about their hatred and spite for women, to chase the little bit of attention and male validation they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:23 AM
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People tend to twist stories in their favor. Also, why isn't considering motives logical? I have seen this a couple times already, a guy who pushes boundaries and acts above other people, and then fixates on some random detail trying to "logic" away a pattern of being an ass. From their perspective, they keep meeting "sensitive" friends or "emotional" women and of course they think they're always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:12 AM
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I think you overestimate men in being logical and reasonable, and unless you've dated men, I don't expect you to understand. Men are petty, moody, and bitchy as well but they call it other things. yknow like breaking shit because of a video game they lost, being irresponsible, self centered and passive aggressive, if they were women, the same guys would be labelled a spoiled princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:02 AM
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Everyone knows a couple guys who are down bad for a toxic drama loving gf. the number of masochist red flags and drama chasing men is much higher than PPD thinks. But I'm going to guess that OP and the bitter boys of PPD only victim blame women and not men though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:43 PM
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I can say, "I don't want to date X, because that's not my type". That can be fine on it's own right? Or I can say, "I don't want to date X because I think they're part of the lizard people conspiracy that was behind 9/11, the moon landing, and space lasers". It's not unfair for people to criticize the crazy bullshit, separate from the dating preferences that I have. Stop conflating "subjective preference" with "all the bullshit reasoning that could be racist or sexist or misinformation, attached…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:40 PM
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It's a cultural social norm from where I'm from, and i've heard some other immigrant communities have it as well. I don't see why you seem so irritated that certain people have that expectation while you don't. If you're not into it, don't do it. Simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:05 AM
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Because you're not dating your friend or your brother. There isn't that "we're constantly doing romantic stuff together, we trust each other, and venmoing an exact 50% is awkward" context. Many women use men paying as sort of a shit test for the first date. But it's not crazy for a woman to expect if she thinks they'll become a couple. Couples are constantly alternating who pays, and whoever sets stuff up for a specific date typically pays. But more women should split the bill if they don't plan…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:55 AM
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That was very informative, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:14 AM
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Despite the not so subtle dig at it, I'm very happily "modern" and "woke", and I never said men and women aren't different. Obviously we are. But I'll trust experts to research those physical and cultural differences. Just not dumbass armchair experts, who go from "women and men are different" and then jump to crazy self serving conclusions, usually about how their double standards are justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:33 AM
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That's very nice, but they're all still your "instinctual" personal opinion. And/or overblown, uncommon concerns that are definitely not insecurities. It's fine that you have them and maybe you'll find someone who doesn't mind your being tense, unnatural and having trust issues, but it's weird you think other people need to follow your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:19 PM
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Lol dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:08 PM
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Do men never tell each other positive things when playing video games with friends, at home with family, or at work? Would like to see actual quantitative data for this being the case. Most of the social, working, and family environments I've seen, people are pretty supportive and give out compliments, regardless of gender. Are you talking about all compliments, or just compliments about looks or that imply sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:19 AM
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Well yeah, the "power" stuff was something I quoted that you said in your post. All of it was just a loose collection of your personal opinion and insecurities. All 4 points in a nutshell -- you think compliments to your date have to go through merit based screening, verbally confirming physical attraction is never necessary and always bad, looks are "objective" now (citation needed), and some weird insecurity about giving power over to someone. If this is the standard for "actual arguments", th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:49 AM
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I don't think you should be giving out relationship advice if you overthink flirting and telling your date they look good or call them cute. And instead go through a numbered list about handing "power" to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:04 AM
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There is misogyny in the west and attacks on our bodily autonomy, if you'd believe it I just think it's crazy people are opening this can of worms with that narrative in mind... once you bring it up and anyone zooms out about the general perception of women, don't they realize how stupid and self unaware they look
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:53 AM
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if you are afraid to be honestly affectionate with someone and are overthinking it to this extent for something this minor, your relationships are doomed to fail. Most people are not idiots and can tell when their affection is not being reciprocated. Best of luck to you though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:23 AM
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For the same reasons you listed, should women not compliment men either?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:56 AM
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https://hdr.undp.org/content/2020-gender-social-norms-index-gsni
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:19 AM
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I know this is a talking point redpillers love to toss around, but it seems really flimsy to me. There are much more rigorous reports done by the UN that show 90% of people are generally biased AGAINST women... yet redpillers want to focus on this stupid catchphrase? It's what, a couple studies with tiny sample size from a couple decades ago, associating women with less aggression or violence than men. No shit? Most violent crime is not committed by women. Why does this get all the attention fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:17 AM
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Just my 2 cents for some of the people in this thread, if you start doom spiraling out of control with your "what if" scenarios when someone gives some general advice like broadening your social circle... then just don't take the advice then. Fucking up anything is possible and nothing is guaranteed and babyproofed 100%, that's just life. If you find that offensive for some reason, well no one is forcing you to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:23 PM
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Data seems to show that both genders cheat approximately the same amount. But like in all PPD threads, redpillers here are going to do the same exercise they always do - they have to reach the conclusion that women suck and are worse than men. The bad faith nonsense, anecdotes, and all that garbage doesn't even matter, because we all know what the end goal is here. Karma farming from incels using misogyny as bait. Yes, you. Sweet baby boy, you're so much better than women, yes you are. Go ahead,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:52 PM
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I'm not responsible, because there is actually nothing I can do. The goalposts will keep moving until I'm a "bad woman" who can be blamed for whatever is convenient. Women could be saddest most subservient doormats in existence and when pilled men want to abuse women or go on a power trip, they'll still make up reasons to justify hurting and hating us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:26 AM
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huh, sure. OP is a guy? honestly that is a pleasant surprise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:50 AM
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I get what you're saying, no one deserves to be a child bride who gets traded for political ties to some foreign country, and raped by some ugly old codger for male heirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:35 AM
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Are you sure you're responding to the right people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:44 AM
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You deserve a "good woman" the same amount that I deserve a sexy subservient male butler who makes his life purpose making my life more convenient and accepts being second class. The whole concept that this is something we deserve is dumb as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:41 AM
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It's strange that you're saying this to random women like you know what we're like personally. Why did you think I'm a stand in for the people or person you have issues with? I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:35 AM
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I don't want to be a better victim for narcissistic redpilled abusive men. And I'm not responsible for the dated stereotypes they have of women, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:47 AM
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Outside of sex, the pilled guys are constantly reminding us how much they hate us and how as a gender, we should be stereotyped as useless, shallow, stupid, slutty, selfish, dishonest and lazy. Honestly with how they speak about women, I'm confused why they even want to be around us. There are probably easier ways to get a human punching bag or a domestic servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:47 AM
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Or women could take female viagra? I'm sure some women would appreciate a fix for low libido instead of being written off by big pharma, and covered under insurance the same way as products designed for men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:02 PM
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Do you pay other men money for their services, or do you pay them with sexual and emotional intimacy? If you want to compensate them with sexual or romantic favors, you can go ahead... while the rest of us will use this social construct called "money"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:30 AM
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I'm getting the sense that PPD only cares about blaming women for sexlessness. If it's not misogynistic gender bullying, they lose interest. Like imagine if hormonal birth control, youth culture being more antisocial, work culture and microplastics had the biggest impacts on women's libido.. and that's why everyone isn't fucking. Unfortunately discussions on that don't give yall the chance to screech about Chad and Stacy and evil harlots not fucking uggos for charity. And you need to care about …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:39 PM
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