fluidmoviestar Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
2	Why is Leonardo DiCaprio is made fun so much? It’s a classic “the lady doth protest too much.” Look into Leo’s history with predditors, child stardom and no real parental boundaries… even if he doesn’t identify as same-sex attracted, his native wiring is not for mature relationships with people of appropriate ages. He’s simply far too famous and devoid of real freedom to be anything other than what Hollywood needs him to be, and that is a jet-setting, rich, movie-generating playboy. For some reason, people have an easier time believing it w…	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 11:07 AM
-1	Is there anything a man can do to protect himself against a false accusation? You’re absolutely right, it’s just an off-the-cuff thought, and there are, surely, countless exceptions. The thrust of the thought is simply that what women do to promote monogamy will look different than what men do. Contemporary dating has been broken by apps and trust issues, so whatever allows for humanity to return to viable nuclear families is going to be dramatic. If we can’t rely on preexisting religious thinking or social pressure/shame, there will be a new replacement eventually. The c…	/r/MensRights	30/01/22 01:18 PM
-10	Is there anything a man can do to protect himself against a false accusation? Women are physically overpowered by men, on average, hence, their tactics will appear more Machiavellian. A false pregnancy allegation preys upon human frailty of memory and attention, much as modern politics does. As far as evolution is concerned, our species seems to prefer consistent, committed parental involvement. Not everyone with involved parents is successful, but every successful person had involved parents, by and large, biological or otherwise (which is why the modern ability to test …	/r/MensRights	30/01/22 10:34 AM
-10	Is there anything a man can do to protect himself against a false accusation? Men in committed, monogamous relationships are less likely to expose themselves to women and situations wherein false allegations will arise, just as paternity tests, however much slower of a reveal they may be, also expose the unfaithful and prevent monogamous, committed women from being amongst their number. Not a perfect 1:1, not even suggesting it’s conscious, but humanity has been around long enough for regressive behaviors to have been weeded out by unconscious evolutionary patterns.	/r/MensRights	30/01/22 10:17 AM
-15	Is there anything a man can do to protect himself against a false accusation? Has anyone considered that false allegations are how women enforce monogamy, while a paternity test is how men enforce it? Both sides have their tactics, and by definition, a “tactic” is going to appear reprehensible to the other side.	/r/MensRights	30/01/22 09:27 AM
8	UK: Woman, 19, who had her ex arrested SIX times after setting up fake Instagram profiles and then trying to frame him for the stalking is jailed for ten months This is what happens when people have too much money and free time on their hands. And, as it turns out, the only real thing about her whole life is the portion that’ll be spent in jail. Sad.	/r/MensRights	12/01/22 11:03 AM
0	Comically cruel Toxic	/r/MensRights	12/01/22 04:10 AM
1	Yeah, sorry bout that. Drink a Redbull instead? So tangy and chunky 🤤🤤	/r/PussyPassDenied	19/10/21 05:30 AM
1	Men Expressing Feelings Women want it both ways: men they can talk to like a best friend AND an attack dog that can protect them from everyone who catcalled them when they were single. It’s not reasonable.	/r/MensRights	16/09/21 01:02 PM
6	People shouldn't hit people. (Females should also not hit males) As the recipient of a feminist’s hits, they may not be lethal, but they fly the red flag of “problem.”	/r/MensRights	22/08/21 01:51 PM
40	People shouldn't hit people. (Females should also not hit males) All hits matter.	/r/MensRights	22/08/21 10:47 AM
4	What if a 7 year old boy said the same thing... 🤣🤣	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/08/21 09:50 PM
4	Imagine the outcry if every time that the word "girl" in the song "Run the World (girls)" was replaced with the word "guy" Just like Love and Hate aren’t opposite sides of a coin (they’re the same side of the same coin, opposite apathy), patriarchy isn’t opposite matriarchy, they’re both opposite cooperation.	/r/MensRights	20/08/21 02:19 PM
2	What if a 7 year old boy said the same thing... Guaranteed	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/08/21 01:49 PM
2	What if a 7 year old boy said the same thing... Oh dear… if everyone’s the same, what will we do?!	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/08/21 01:37 PM
1	What if a 7 year old boy said the same thing... That horrible oblivious parent? THOP? 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/08/21 01:18 PM
3	What if a 7 year old boy said the same thing... No, “are great, just ask them.” 🤣🤣	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/08/21 12:53 PM
11	Guys I have some very Good News 🤝🏻 Fuck Amber Heard… but, obviously, don’t	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/08/21 11:04 AM
29	What if a 7 year old boy said the same thing... Great minds… 😏😏	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/08/21 10:11 AM
904	What if a 7 year old boy said the same thing... Imagine using your daughter as a cover for your thirsty Twitter jokes…	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/08/21 03:10 AM
1	Why does society treat the act of obtaining a girlfriend or getting married like it's the ultimate goal? Single men are historically the least predictable, and society couches itself in predictability.	/r/MGTOW2	25/07/21 09:39 AM
1	Observation: Most reddit subs are full of white knights and fake offense It fake indignation didn’t exist, neither would Reddit and most internet forums	/r/MGTOW2	22/07/21 02:23 PM
44	Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain – The surgery subjected the infant to significant trauma And that, my friends, is the point. They justify it with religious woowoo, but the point has always been sexual trauma and decreased sensitivity. The culture that does this gets what it has coming to it.	/r/MensRights	15/07/21 02:35 AM
2	A daily reminder that false accusations can happens to anyone. stop minimising the danger. fair trial a human right. You know, like finishing your meal before sending the plate back with croutons on it, claiming you want a full refund for the meal… Some people are raised to be victims by flawed ideology.	/r/PussyPassDenied	12/07/21 02:48 AM
40	18 year old girl cries loudly when she's sentenced to death in Tennessee's Electric Chair And there’s the difference between shutting someone up and making an example out of them.	/r/PussyPassDenied	26/06/21 01:31 AM
41	The bell tolls for thee, Amber She’s truly an inspiration, kids everywhere need to learn that, even if you’re a documented domestic abuser and sociopath, you can still eke out a little fortune in this crazy world… no one will support you, but you’ll still make money somehow…	/r/PussyPassDenied	23/06/21 02:53 PM
3	Article on why it's too expensive to be a mother now. Commented that price of living affects all parents. Got 82 responses, nearly all negative, calling me an awful human. You can’t prevent anyone from feeling like a victim if that’s what they’re dead set on being… but you can profit massively by pandering to them as you sell them the shackles of their own self-enslavement. It’s going to be an amazing decade for that.	/r/MensRights	16/06/21 09:27 AM
9	Women caught on video hitting herself to frame husband for DV I hope we refer to it as that forevermore.	/r/MGTOW2	15/06/21 10:47 AM
0	CMV: the RP contention that "all sex & relationships are transactional, prostitutes are just explicit" is patently bullshit, furthermore, there is a distinct difference from paid whores Not me personally, but I don’t currently need his money. If I did, I’m sure I’d do like most women before the last century of exponential growth. It’s just history and survival, nothing personal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/21 10:59 AM
1	Understanding Female Intrasexual Competition And there are still millions wanting it to stay that way... it’s crazy	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/21 10:58 AM
1	Understanding Female Intrasexual Competition Evolutionary history may not be as obvious in a period of such a glut of human labor, but there was a time that allowing a man’s resources to go to a rival would have meant misery and death. We’re only ever one disaster away from relying on evolutionary programming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/21 07:25 AM
0	CMV: the RP contention that "all sex & relationships are transactional, prostitutes are just explicit" is patently bullshit, furthermore, there is a distinct difference from paid whores Mutual benefit precludes this conversation. Wherein there’s no physical mutually desirable benefit, he’d better be loaded.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/21 07:21 AM
3	#JusticeForJohnny The Epstein connection should tell you everything you need to know. You don’t need to convince insecure people to abuse their power and influence, you just facilitate it, and then they’re trapped, usually on a hidden camera. And, I think you’re right, the government would never shut down its propaganda wing. Crack down on a particularly flagrant individual from time to time (Polanski, Weinstein), but don’t muck up the machine. Military influence over Top Gun and the subsequent record enlistments…	/r/MensRights	03/06/21 11:21 AM
2	#JusticeForJohnny Definitely right... they, the bosses, feel they have to prevent anyone from ever leaving. Targeting children is the obvious tactic, and hurt people hurt people, the cycle continues. No one deserves $20m for 3 months of saying someone else’s words, but if you do a good job of keeping secrets and whoring yourself out, the Money follows.	/r/MensRights	03/06/21 10:58 AM
3	#JusticeForJohnny Hear hear. I’m an actor and I love making films, but Hollywood has shown how disgusting it is. I’d love to win an Oscar, but I can only imagine what the “winners” have to do to receive one. It’s a cesspool, and I hope GME/AMC go as big as they can because I’d love to make my own films outside of the system. It’s a glorified prostitution ring, and I keep hoping that the world catches wise to it (of course, knowing full well that a failing film industry tanks AMC in that case, but I think a cultur…	/r/MensRights	03/06/21 10:35 AM
5	#JusticeForJohnny I agree with your position, I just think the tide has turned. I don’t see that public supporting her at all, it’s just sjw Hollywood, and if the last year has taught us anything, its dominance over propaganda is over. I wish Johnny the best, and I’m glad I never doubted him. There has never been any reason to assume he was anything less than the stand up guy he’s been endlessly recounted to be. If Hollywood goes to bat for the villain, they’re cooked (see: Weinstein/Cosby/Ellen/etc.).	/r/MensRights	03/06/21 10:13 AM
9	#JusticeForJohnny Yeah, she goes to prison for a spell and/or the boycott of her films will be a death knell. Hollywood wants us to sacrifice a great for a domestic abuser... this isn’t the way it’s supposed to work.	/r/MensRights	03/06/21 10:03 AM
3	People who have been married and are no longer.... What was the reason for your divorce? Do you take any responsibility in it or was the cause on them? I was too young and religiously indoctrinated and too inexperienced in dating and learning another person before I felt guilted/pressured into marrying. After a few years, it became clear that the opposites that drew us together were the intractable fatal flaws that would tear us apart, as cultural differences were just too great to surmount. Sadly, I’ve learned that getting married so you can have sex is like having a baby so you can avoid feeling lonely. It’s almost as if we intentionally rais…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/21 12:43 AM
4	The average woman is more attractive than the average man This is like saying that one would prefer to eat a juicy, ripe strawberry than an oak 2x4... obviously. Evolution gave us our reproductive strategies, and women’s is attraction, men’s is utility. This is a silly post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/21 09:24 AM
1	Why? Why would you do this? Because you think you’re bulletproof instead of increasingly personally responsible, as you thought you wanted to be? Maybe?	/r/PussyPassDenied	30/05/21 04:55 AM
2	It’s always about what the wife wants. Many men often ignore the fact that, in deferring to the opinion of their wives, oftentimes they’re seeking an out, meaning, they may very well not want to do what you want them to do, and they love having plausible deniability that invariably leads to sex. Just two cents. “Pussy-whipped” is a strong word for what is a careful internal negotiation, one that may not prefer your company in a given decision.	/r/MGTOW2	30/05/21 01:54 AM
1	Why do so many liberal feminist women discourage so many under 30 women from getting married and having kids in their 20s ? It’s a decision on a spectrum: on one end, immature childbearing that leads to a sort of enclosure that forces a young woman into a permanent role (mother), foregoing life experiences that make for an informed, interesting mother. On the other, unfulfilled careerism that leaves one without the biological fulfillment that millennia of evolution have prepared us for, and that one needs to have externally validated through others following in the same footsteps. Happiness likely lives somewhere in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/21 05:41 AM
1	Why are men in denial that feminine men do well with women? To your point, historically, women would have had a significant number of children just to get some to survive, leaving a partner in a better situation to bring home the bacon, literally or figuratively. Again, statistical or historical correlation doesn’t imply that money is masculine, just that women would’ve been pregnant for a significant portion of their considerably shorter lives. That said, men being associated with money isn’t an arbitrary connection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/21 04:21 PM
1	Why are men in denial that feminine men do well with women? Sure, attractive is attractive...but one’s current conditions more sharply dictate who people partner with... I find many people attractive who I wouldn’t want to procreate with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/21 01:24 PM
2	Why are men in denial that feminine men do well with women? Historic, reported instances are like dramatic news stories, they likely represent vanishingly small percentages of the population, especially given that an entire species based upon rape and kidnapping wouldn’t have gotten to where we are now. Agreed, nurturing partners would be desirable, but resources for raising children preclude that, which is why marvelously attractive women will marry wealthy hobgoblins (and likely cheat on them). Statistics matter here, a small percent doesn’t represent …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/21 01:22 PM
0	Why are men in denial that feminine men do well with women? Feminine men tend to do well with women on hormonal birth control, which tricks the body into thinking itself pregnant and in need of a nurturing partner. Women not on hormonal birth control (re: those capable of breeding) seek out the aforementioned “masculine” partners, presumably due to an innate, unconscious desire for strong children. In an era so clearly overpopulated in some areas, it’s not unbelievable that, like every other false dichotomy, this is a matter of both/and.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/21 12:47 PM
2	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? If they try to tax bachelors before taxing AI/automation, they really deserve what they’ll get. I assume they’ll try a war and a draft long before that, but they’re both on the table. A new round of Bad Ideas From History.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/21 02:01 AM
2	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? Personal responsibility is so hot right now	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 09:01 AM
2	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? drinks clink	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 09:00 AM
3	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? No arguments there. Many people make bad, short-termist decisions, and I don’t think there’s any reason to reward that behavior, male or female. Society functions best when everyone betters themselves and partners wisely, whether sexually, professionally or other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 08:40 AM
2	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? 🤣🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 08:01 AM
2	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 07:54 AM
2	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? Definitely. Either you get a partner out of the deal who contributes mutually to your life, or you can rent a human for a few hours. It’s becoming more obvious by the year.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 07:48 AM
6	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? It’s a great strategy from a societal perspective, but it’s little better than breeding chickens to live in cages until we eat them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 07:46 AM
3	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? Marrying for sex is like running for office to get people to talk to you... there’s really gotta be some significant extra value for the effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 03:11 AM
33	Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why? This. 👆 It seems like society uses male insecurity as its fuel, and they’ve shown their hand. If you ignore men long enough and you can no longer pressure men through religion to take care of someone’s poorly trained daughter, society may end up shifting quite a bit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/21 03:08 AM
3	Amber Heard Under Investigation for Perjury in Johnny Depp Domestic Violence Case And, now, maybe, she’ll get what she has coming to her...finally...hopefully...?	/r/PussyPassDenied	09/05/21 02:29 AM
13	this was posted in r/dontputyourdickinthat At best, she’s joking about rape, which I thought was cancel-worthy. At worst, she means it and should be arrested. The freedom of speech also requires personal responsibility.	/r/MGTOW2	08/05/21 12:23 AM
1	How does Cardi B still have a career https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird	/r/MensRights	04/05/21 11:49 AM
1	How does Cardi B still have a career She’s a plant to diminish the public’s respect for themselves and for expectations of functional, polite society. The CIA has made more than their share of returns on the investment.	/r/MensRights	04/05/21 09:08 AM
9	Bill Gates is single again, and,now, an undisputed loser. This is for business, not for MGTOW stuff... they’re criminals, not angry with each other.	/r/MGTOW2	04/05/21 03:57 AM
1	The reason why 'unstable' people are often desirable to the other gender. I agree entirely. Speaking from a folded marriage, the allure of novelty quickly fades. Too much difference in cultural expectations can be a death knell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/21 03:21 PM
1	The reason why 'unstable' people are often desirable to the other gender. Anyone from a different culture isn’t boring (damaged, wealthy, ethnically different, etc.), and opposites may attract, but mean reversion catches us all in the end, on average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/21 10:16 AM
8	Guy didn’t wanna pay for her order and she lost it. Entitled as hell It’s not prostitution if the “money on the dresser” is €100 worth of seafood and homophobia taps head	/r/PussyPassDenied	29/04/21 02:39 AM
2	I really feel for her Ahhh, yes, it’s all clear now: “Sex work is real work”... until we need to willfully misrepresent it for internet virtue signaling points. It’s all a big misunderstanding, guys, back to not paying them attention.	/r/PussyPassDenied	13/03/21 12:48 AM
1	I just won a month-long false rape accusation battle. I can identify with that.	/r/MensRights	09/03/21 07:33 AM
1	I just won a month-long false rape accusation battle. No, and because it’s a public forum. You might look into your own irreparable damage. The internet may be anonymous, but your behavior here is likely to follow you into the public at some point.	/r/MensRights	09/03/21 06:56 AM
84	I just won a month-long false rape accusation battle. There truly are many valuable women, but it takes a while to sift through the irreparably damaged ones.	/r/MensRights	09/03/21 03:38 AM
4	Best country to move to? Feminism will spread like cancer...until war breaks out. Then it’ll be sundresses and chicken-shaming.	/r/MGTOW2	20/02/21 04:24 AM
1	What exactly is toxic masculinity? I think I understand your positions, and I can’t say I disagree with them, I think we’re just taking different timelines as the goal. I look at the short-termism of viewing women as no longer dependent upon men, of currently being capable of self-reliance, as ignoring how few women for whom that is true, ignoring how much slavery the worldover that makes it possible, ignoring the social peace that grows out of having as many people as possible occupied by raising the next local generation. I see…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/20 02:36 AM
1	What exactly is toxic masculinity? To add a bit of nuance, marriage was never designed for men, perhaps at all, at least primarily. Women are benefitted by avoiding the worst men through vetting as many options available in religious traditions, by finding one capable of committing to an enduring relationship. One has a low chance of success in that if sex precedes commitment. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, and those who give it away cheaply diminish the value of women’s bodies everywhere. Women need to push for greater social…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/20 12:39 AM
1	What exactly is toxic masculinity? It is? Those men who compete and win get whatever sex they can handle... but you’re right, they usually pay for it at the hands of women trained to prevent losing it. Heavy is the head, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/20 09:19 AM
2	What exactly is toxic masculinity? Agreed, it’s just frustrating enduring all of the anti-male nonsense when it’s clearly women breeding it into existence. The need for attention is a horrible Achilles Heel.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/20 07:15 AM
2	What exactly is toxic masculinity? What if masculinity is so desired a trait that we would actually rather have men incapable of maintaining the necessary attributes commit suicide than breed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/20 01:55 PM
0	Do American women feel betrayed by the Sexual Revolution and Feminism? You’ve fully lost the plot. I don’t know who hurt you, but it wasn’t me. The thread was about how marriage strategy and prostitution are related at a pattern level. I gave you some preliminary evidence to corroborate how the trafficking and marriage businesses intersect, then you tried to make it a male issue, ignoring female complicity (i.e. Ghislaine, Allison Mack, etc.)... I’m afraid I’m not the only one with my view of the world. Most people wouldn’t confront you with their beliefs if you ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/20 02:31 AM
0	Do American women feel betrayed by the Sexual Revolution and Feminism? First off, your aggressive response is a bit of an overreaction to polite online discourse. Secondly, women typically don’t have choice in poorer communities and eras, their communities need/ed them to procreate more pressingly than to be educated, ergo, younger and younger average ages of marriage in these communities and eras. Taking into account all of the bride trafficking from Pakistan to China due to the latter’s absence of female babies for particularly anti-feminist reasons, as one examp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/20 11:12 PM
0	Do American women feel betrayed by the Sexual Revolution and Feminism? Why do you act like the world started with the first wave of feminism?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/20 01:51 PM
1	Do American women feel betrayed by the Sexual Revolution and Feminism? Care to elaborate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/20 11:14 PM
1	Do American women feel betrayed by the Sexual Revolution and Feminism? That was meant to be a joking position, I’m sorry it was lost.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/20 11:14 PM
0	Do American women feel betrayed by the Sexual Revolution and Feminism? No, I think, if I may suggest, you’re a bit short of empathy for others not in your considerably lofty position. The child and sex trafficking trade are as significant as they are precisely because the last stop for human decency is outright exploitation by men of women for sex and by women of men for resources, first for self, and, options allowing, a child. It’s not meant as a condemnation, rather as an obvious pattern polite society ignores. The line about deserving a “...” was a tongue-in-ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/20 11:13 PM
3	Do American women feel betrayed by the Sexual Revolution and Feminism? Two people of opposite sexes can both be losers and still be each other’s best option	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/20 11:32 AM
1	Do American women feel betrayed by the Sexual Revolution and Feminism? Presenting yourself to someone you don’t love for resources... that’s as close to prostitution as I can imagine, and it has always been common, assuming every man deserves a wife/woman/partner and all	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/20 11:30 AM
1	Women create the nice guys they despise. I appreciate your insights, and I can only guess at how much of the queer community have had similar experiences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/20 08:36 AM
2	Women create the nice guys they despise. Leo casts women for photo ops, he’s just as likely ace or otherwise. Just because you can pull doesn’t mean you want what you reel in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/20 08:09 AM
2	Women create the nice guys they despise. This definitely cuts both ways. I have very little time for women I’m not attracted to, and friendly, outgoing, considerate women can still find slivers of attention, but no amount of expended resources turns back the hands of genetics. Additionally, I want a partner with a giving sexual style, but I want a nice girl who gets it done in the bedroom, not a bad chick who can’t be seen in public. I get no benefit from a partner who doesn’t know how to behave, whatever the context.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/20 08:07 AM
2	If a guy did this he’d be considered abusive I agree generally, but I’ve been with a past partner who behaved like this. She may not have been as oblivious as this post, but I’m sure she massaged the story with friends to cast herself as the wronged party more than once. Then she cheated. Toxicity is real.	/r/PussyPass	05/07/20 07:22 AM
1	Men have a little bit of “woman” in them and women have a little bit of “man” in them. The true difference is our options. 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/20 12:17 AM
6	'' She denied the charges and accused the boy of raping her on at least four occasions.'' That’s awful...	/r/PussyPassDenied	19/05/20 03:05 PM
1	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? To your first point, I think it’s the difference between “Everything happens for a reason,” which I reject, and “Everything happens, then we reason,” meaning that life is rationalization and compromise, which I believe. To your second point, I mean, no one should get married without plans for kids. Marriage without kids is as wasteful as kids without marriage. Statistically, neither will have much beneficial impact on society at large, with a few exceptions proving the rule. I don’t mean parents…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/20 09:02 AM
1	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? Okay...assuming all of that is true, there’s great evidence that people often don’t marry their first choice. The options one has are all there are. Just like historical arranged marriages, love can grow out of limited options, but it’s about the structure of society and has little to do with love. So, I agree in part. Kids are the point of marriage, the social structure represented by a family. Without kids, marriage serves very little purpose, and if parents were more concerned with the busine…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/20 07:25 AM
1	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? Some people have good reason to marry, but not anyone not wanting children and definitely not anyone without resources to pass down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/20 02:55 PM
2	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? I’ll agree with that. You’re on the money with how important shame is for the functioning of our society. But, to face facts, neither men nor women would sign up for marriage without a good deal of shaming and propaganda (ahem Disney). Between women sacrificing their bodies and employability and health and men sacrificing their health and employment options and freedom, no one wins immediately, but the persistence of anyone’s in-group means that tyranny is at least a bit farther down the road. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/20 12:09 PM
3	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? That’s the rub... for the sake of social stability (i.e. avoiding a huge uptick in sex workers and decline in industrial output), we remove the capacity of men to be independent if they like sex and avoiding the social stigma of Peter Pan Syndrome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/20 07:23 AM
2	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? Marriage is a contractual obligation meant to neutralize two people into becoming worker bees for a government, that’s it. In theory, men get consistent sex that allows for social peace, women get consistent resources leading to less threats to other relationships. Men don’t want to control women in marriage, they only want assurances that, in the event of children, they’re actually his. Women are natively wired to be turned on by, on-average, more heavily-testosterone-induced physical traits, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/20 06:41 AM
6	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? If someone loves their prospective wife/partner, why would they need to? “Love” held together by legal obligations and the threat of public shame is not worth the label.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/20 06:27 AM
2	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/20 06:24 AM
2	Would you ever accept a marriage whereby you got everything that comes with it: The proposal, the engagement, the wedding, the honey moon, the public declaration of love and commitment, etc. - but it’s not a marriage under the law and has no legal ramifications should you “divorce”? Because marriage is a business proposition, historically meant to unite clans and resources. If you have neither, sure, marry for love, but who cares, as that partnership is unlikely to have much influence on the future of the species. As a business partnership, it’s imperative that you run a business well, not that you love each other, though the former may lead to the latter, while vice versa is a toss up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/20 06:21 AM