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Discussionflyawaylittlebirdie/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 05:01 PM
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Why is it only AWALT when it's convenient? If AWALT that's all there is to it, one woman, let alone many women, not being "like that" is all it takes for that rule to be null.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:20 AM
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Im the most feminine person you'll ever meet, lol. Personality, tastes and appearance. The only thing" masculine" about me is i cuss a lot (baker, working in kitchens does that to everyone). I'm a very normal femme nerdy woman, dude. I know many other women who have the same tastes and experiences as ive had. In fact, women message me privately or reply in agreement on pretty much every comment ive ever made here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 08:20 PM
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Exactly! Some of the guys ive dated have been feminine in appearance, some in behavior, and some in their personalities. I like a guy in touch with his emotions and more gentle. I don't like stereotypical masculinity at all in personality and honestly not a big fan of it in appearance either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 04:02 PM
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They call me it because i ruin a majority of arguments here simply by existing and contradicting basically every single point they've ever made. Though, the real question here is why being a feminist makes my point any less valid. I know many women who like feminine men. One of my exes is mistaken frequently for gay, not really conventionally attractive and yet is extremely popular with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:57 PM
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My flair is tongue in cheek. It's what a lot of idiots here have called me over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:46 PM
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Every guy I've ever dated has been effeminate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:40 PM
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Theres so much salt in here, RP are so use to purge week being other RPers posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:34 PM
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Your choice for borderline fat definitely weighs more than at least two of the OPs pics. The top picture isn't real, the curvy girl is angling. What I've noticed about this sub, especially with your preference pictures is y'all don't know what weight looks like. You're calling people fat for having different body types, not due to their weight. You like hourglass or pear shapes, they aren't skinnier their fat just stores differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:22 PM
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What the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:11 PM
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Then why ask your question at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:33 AM
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Your question is thinly veiled, and obvious in it's intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 01:14 AM
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You do realize a majority poly people with children don't raise their children in a way that let's their kids know their sex lives. Depending on the kind of poly relationships it is, open relationship, poly network and so forth, those kids would almost always have the same relationship with their "nonparents" as a monogamous parents family friends. The most deviating way would be like if they had a roommate as well as a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 12:54 AM
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This is why I think apps like Tinder are terrible for dating and ones like OKC make way more sense. Tinder makes people rate others based on nothing but looks, despite women mostly being compelled by personality. Women in general think an average looking guy is below average in looks, and a study on OKC found that women are just as likely to message a guy who is "below average" in looks as someone they find attractive, if they both have a high match rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:18 PM
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You near perfectly described my hometown man, but I'm technically midwestern. The guys my age act and look like they're 40 before they're even out of their -teens. You have to search hundreds of miles out on tinder and OKC to find any guys who aren't like that. I'm lucky enough that I like girls (at least as lucky as living in fear due to the rampent bigotry can be), otherwise dating there would have been an absolute nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:57 PM
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While its true that tummy fat is much more dangerous for women than fat elsewhere, measuring ones waist doesn't do much if you're hourglass or pear shaped. If you went by my waist line alone I'd be a xs, but that's only because my waist line barely changes even when I gain weight, to the point when I was overweight it was 13/15 inches smaller than my bust/hips.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 05:16 PM
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The hardest thing for me to grasp about this sub is this. The people I went to school with it was always ugly ass guy and way more attractive girl, and usually the guy had a pretty trash personality as well because of the way guys were where I'm from. The most attractive guy (by RP standards, not really mine) in my school didn't date until college, even though in HS he was extremely fit, muscular and all those things RP tells men to look like. The most attractive woman in my school dated a 5/10 …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:35 PM
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"Women weren't part of the Internet when it was young, they only came when it got popular" "women aren't gamers from the early day of mmo and vent, they're just pretending for attention"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 02:22 PM
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...Okay. If you're talking about being a woman and openly talking about how being a woman is in general, yeah. 2xc is the reddit space dedicated to women and cough being a woman is pretty mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 02:13 PM
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Um.. You realize I was talking about how very young girls will have sleezy dudes harass them and that tends to make women aware of how some men are from a young age right? How attractive a person is doesn't make that not fundamentally repulsive to harass a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:36 PM
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A man knows himself better than a woman does, however those who interact the most with a group tends to know it better. In general, women know men better than a man does when it comes to dating. Also, redpill goes hand in hand with being anti feminist but neither of your sources has anything either redpill/pua tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:41 PM
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It will always be he said she said, but I'm pretty sure someone actually dating guys knows more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:12 PM
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Do you truly believe that stats would exist for what I said? Knowing that comes with being part of dating culture and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:58 PM
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Thanks, lol, it's the stubbornness in me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:33 PM
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Stats lol, truly the last breath of a redditor with no counter argument. Where are your stats for your counterculture argument? You know that my evidence will be anecdotal, and use that to demerit my argument even though just about every other guy on tinder will use TRP strategy against you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:38 PM
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Except they are extremely common now, especially within online dating and hook up culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:23 PM
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Um.. Yeah, lol. You realize how old TRP sentiment is? It predates reddit considerably, and isn't even close to the largest community dedicated to the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:12 PM
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Yeah, its usually considerably larger than sub count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:03 PM
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Dude, who's shit posting now? You should be aware that subs aren't proportionate to the amount of people who believe a sentiment. The fact it is still one of the largest subs despite the quarantine should be enough information to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:57 PM
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AWALT isn't unique, look at how many people are subbed to TRP. It is mainstream sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:46 PM
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I'm aware, thus, why I just said TRP is not redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:43 PM
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You think the red pill is actually a unique train of thought to be actually considered redpilled? Red pill is just thinly veiled misogyny that has existed for hundreds of years hiding behind pseudoscience
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:40 PM
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Yes, its completely beside the point, we are talking about "redpill" moments for women, not antimen moments men have. Women are blamed from a young age for the attention they attract the redpill moment for us is when we realize it's men that are the problem, not us for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:31 PM
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.. Everything you said is beside the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:23 PM
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Even if you don't believe the 1/4 sexual assault stat, you have to realize most women have been sexually harassed at least once in their lives from as early as prepubescence. Men don't experience the negative side of women until adulthood usually, so of course more women would be "redpilled" than men, we've seen the dark side of men much more often and much younger than men of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:06 PM
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Its the same logic that RP applies to women, "AWALT"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:50 PM
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People don't usually require concrete evidence when you can just look into top posts of rp women/wives but this older post is pretty obvious: https://amp.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/4gfcfd/turns_out_even_the_women_left_in_rredpillwomen/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:20 PM
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Men have just as much right to bodily autonomy as women. It isn't unequal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:08 PM
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Only if you're married to the woman when she becomes pregnant, actually. When you're married the assumption is that you are the only person the woman has had sex with, thus assumed paternity. Otherwise, the only time a man is forced to pay child support is if they are in a relationship with the woman when the child is born, and even then it's rare. If a man ends the relationship and doesn't sign the birth certificate when the child is born, they cannot force you to just pay it. If a woman's word…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 05:19 PM
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You don't have to pay for the child if you don't sign the birth certificate, but if you are in a relationship with the woman when and after the child is born, sign the birth certificate and then leave, the argument is the child deserves to have their quality of life stay the same as it was before you left. But you have to opt out of the child's life entirely before its born.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 04:24 PM
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Men are allowed to easily opt out of a pregnancy as long as they aren't married to the woman. That is equality. A man is not allowed to dictate what happens to a womans body, bodily autonomy is still a thing and it would be unequal to allow someone to dictate what happens to someone else's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 03:25 PM
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So, when a child is born, men don't have to sign the birth certificate. The only time someone is assumed to be the father on a birth certificate is if you're married to the woman who just had a child. Men are allowed to opt out, but once you put your name on a birth certificate you are saying you are that child's father and you are responsible for giving them a good childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 02:32 PM
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Yeah, the fact they don't speak like people, let alone women, is a large aspect of why it's pretty obvious it's TRP dudes LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 02:11 PM
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Idk, I was raised in a very, very conservative area and they don't have any of the mannerisms or talk about themselves the way RPW do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 02:08 PM
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Like the fact they don't even remotely speak like women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 04:05 AM
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You sound deranged, lol. Nothing you said is relevant to the topic being discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:40 PM
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Frankly, it's because of how idiotic basing the whole thing purely on looks is for women. OKC trends showed women find the average guy below average in looks, however it also found if they have a high match rate looks largely didn't affect the woman messaging the guy. Stop using something that has zero basis in modern society to justify your incel bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:11 PM
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Yep, a study about the past totally shows current trends. That study has never shown anything more than how economic trends have been through the ages, specifically how poor people were. Women were allowed to climb the economic ladder through marriage. Men could not, and thus many very poor men never married, never had kids, never passed on their DNA. That study has no barring on our modern society where money isn't about economic gain. ... The rest of what you said kind of proves my point, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:06 PM
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I didn't say I was going to stop replying, I said I wasn't going to have a genuine conversation with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:18 PM
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And that is idiotic, seeing as women do spin plates. Being "slutty" implies there is no effort on their part, and my point has been from the beginning that isn't the case. Also why I stopped wanting to have a genuine conversation with you, seeing as you are being stubborn and refusing to see other sides of the arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:26 PM
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Looool, this absolutely doesn't say what you were. Also extremely small database, and a lot of speculative data.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:24 PM
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I've said from the beginning that most people, even promiscuous women, are selective in who they sleep with. Sure, there are exceptions but if you recall my initial point was about women who spin plates, which is most women who actually enjoy sex and have a decent amount of it with different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:25 PM
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Women don't just spread their legs to get laid, you think a woman is going to sleep with just about anyone just because their an option? Women don't get to cum just by PiV, so why would any woman do that? They still have to be selective even if its just for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:48 PM
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Then show your source, because tinder hasn't ever done a trend study that had anything like that as a statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:42 PM
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Then you're on the wrong sub. That's not how statistics work, and damn are you misquoting that old as hell OKC study the 80% thing came from. Originally I thought you were just being broad. OKC has a bot that gives people attractive rates based on percentage, it found that the bottom 80% of men would basically only message the top 20% of women. While women tend to message people within the same range as them. So a 50% man is more likely to message a 100% woman vs a 50% woman. This didn't analyze…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:34 PM
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... Those statements don't contradict each other? If a man has lower standards, like you expect a woman to have, he will have no issues getting laid. If he only cares about getting his dick wet, he can do so with ease. I know plenty of dudes who are like that. I've been saying this whole time that women and men are different sexually? Have you been reading what I've been saying at all? Women don't do pure sex even when hooking up, is that not the whole reason TRP exists? Not to mention, again, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:18 PM
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Women don't want people who they aren't compatible with, whether superficial or emotional. Again just because they can fuck these dudes doesn't mean it's the option they will take just because it's there. TRP is all about how women are different than men, but you don't realize how women are sexually? Not to mention it is just as easy for a man as for a woman to get laid. But you seem to think women have zero standards if they're slutty. If a guy lowers his standards a slutty man doesn't have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:49 PM
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Ugh, I don't think they're highly skilled selectors, but they also aren't the way you're acting like they are. I'm actively on tinder, to sift through the fake accounts/completely incompatible people who only swiped based on looks it takes so much damn time to even find a single person that you are compatible with. Like, you know how much easier life is just making the first move? So many guys I know swipe right for everyone. If it was easier to just be the selector, I'd at least be able to see …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:02 PM
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Lol, as though that's ever been enforced for TRP. You know how many actual insults I've had hurled at me by even the most active RP users here? I insulted the integrity of your comment and said you were being simplistic, and ignorant. Those aren't even personal attacks, so how about you stop condescending people. If you can't read your comment and see all the contradictions in RP philosophy then why would I want to interact with any level of genuine argument? To debate you have to be critical of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:33 PM
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The issue you guys are seeming to have a lot of issues comprehending is the fact that just because you can "open your legs" to get casual sex does not mean those are the people you are wanting to have sex with. You are completely missing what that actually means a woman would be doing. Women who are average get mostly attention from creepy skeevy dudes, not people on her level. Those are not the people a "slut" would be sleeping with, just because they are an option doesn't mean she's sleeping w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:18 PM
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Honestly, I've gotten into a lot of arguments with your group, many different people from different walks of life. Debated until one of us finally got bored only to pick it up again on another thread about a different subject. I've talked to people casually into the theory just to help navigate dating culture to veterans who firmly believed every pseudoscientific rant posted to the forum. Different ideas of how women are, different ideas for why women are how they are. All of that, and you've ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:30 AM
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You're acting like the whole "spinning" aspect isn't partly balancing them, which for many people means keeping them from knowing about each other. I forget sometimes how the red pill is often completely unaware of how being a woman actually is. The people who seek us out are rarely people you would want to date, sleezy, creepy, sometimes downright repulsive personalities. You still have to work for the attention of people you want to be around, just as men do. It's so lazy and immature to act l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:28 AM
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I can't tell who this comment is more insulting towards, men or women. Men are just as capable of being hurt by you spinning plates as women, men are just as likely to want a woman to commit as a woman is, women can and are just as skilled about juggling men, women do seek out guys and play them for their affections. Like, spinning plates is shitty regardless of who is doing it but jesus is this mentality out of date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:08 AM
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When their duel citizenship is literally just to give them an escape in case they are slaughtered en masse again, I think they get a free pass. Pain, female bias and medicine: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=383803 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199403033300902 Heart attack symptoms: https://medicine.yale.edu/core/previous_projects/virgo/ Hysteria/PTSD/BPD: https://academic.oup.com/shm/article/22/1/79/1619837 (Speculative piece but well researched) http://www.wilso…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:38 PM
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...I mean... You're saying Jewish people shouldn't hold any elected positions within government because they're born with duel citizenship... That is pretty anti semetic. Especially since being a duel citizen isn't their choice nor does it mean they have conflict of interests. For example Bernie is nothing but critical of Israel, and he's Jewish. There's a reason why what matters is where you're born, specifically to prevent that kind of conflict of interests. Uh.. No, in medical settings it inv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:49 PM
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Not really, if someone isn't smart enough to use the word as intended, that doesn't change the definition of the word. There are exceptions to the rules obviously, however. Science and medicine are susceptible to bias. The funny thing is, it's bias against women, not in favor of. Because of that, they have historically been reluctant to adapt things as acceptable when it involves "women's issues" and this is a continued issue to modern medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:56 PM
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The fact it's blinding the people I'm talking about to actual rational argument? Seriously every single point made by the person I directly replied to was slapped down as illogical or not a sign of emotional stability/maturity, despite the fact everything listed is widely agreed upon as such in the medical field. If you're just stating facts it would, by the definition, not be misogynist. The problem is that TRP likes to pass off pseudoscience or complete miscomprehension of studies as fact. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:14 PM
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Its funny to see a bunch of dudes being casually misogynistic without any actual evidence to back them up claiming to be the more logical and calculated than an actual rational thought process, not to mention one that has more research backing it up than the counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:15 PM
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I haven't downvoted you at all, lol. I was, again, just talking about based on the reviews, simmer down. I didn't have time to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:27 PM
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I'm not talking about self diagnosis. I'm saying terms you choose for yourself sometimes are not accurate to what you think they mean. For example, MRA sounds like its fighting the good cause, but a lot of people in those groups are just whiny manbabies who argue about feminism online and do nothing involving activism. Or when someone calls themselves pro-life, but then says they're only pro-life when it comes to themselves and others have the right to choose, which is by the book pro-choice. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:10 PM
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I wasn't saying it wasn't full of probable misinformation. I was saying that that book specifically sounds like its discussing what can be happen by marrying someone with those disorders. I try to stay neutral to self identifiers as people tend to use them incorrectly. There is a lot of issues with being with people with those disorders, it isn't easy being in a relationship with someone with autism or OCD, which could be why the writer latched onto that term.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 06:17 PM
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It's not about it being terrible, but rainmanning us is disingenuous. We vary and it has its perks but it's a disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:54 PM
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If want to see the contents of the book but based on the reviews it sounds like its more telling women what to expect when marrying someone with those disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:50 PM
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Not to mention how he manages to make it sound like all aspects of the antisocial behavior autistic folks portray are entirely a choice so we can focus on our special interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:48 PM
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That's not how it is though. That's what I'm telling you is wrong. Savants are people who are hyperfocused on one special interest, they are beyond rare and has nothing to do with their concentration. They have nothing else they can do. Autism is a disability, nothing about it is a choice. You don't choose your obsession, it's just something that you need. It's like OCD. An individuals ability to socialize entirely depends on how their brain personally works. I'm extremely lucky in that regard a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:45 PM
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I'm sorry but your description of autistic people is just... wrong. Most autistic people are not savants, autistic people have more than one special interest, most of the time we aren't that good at any of them, they're just something we hold dear. Out of all the autistic people I know, and I know a lot since I'm in a lot of disability activist circles, I've only met one or two savants, out of hundreds, maybe even more than a thousand, autistic folks. The reason we can't read social cues has not…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:33 PM
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Dude, if that was the case you'd have some stats to back you up. You aren't being rational, and you aren't making "hypotheses", you're just straight up bullshitting in an incoherent rant against mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 04:26 PM
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I'd love it if more people here where younger, it'd be more interesting imo, I feel like a child here at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:35 AM
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Still hella immature of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:32 AM
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I'm pretty active here and I'm currently dating, also poly which makes interactions on this sub extra amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:29 AM
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Lol, don't you love it when they ask for our opinions, then when you give vague general responses they begin to attack you, personally, as though you must do it yourself to explain behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:25 AM
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LOL, next you're gonna say the border wall makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:33 PM
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The only time boundaries are meant to be defended in place of respected is if its property, like borders. Women sometimes do the whole "playing hard to get" shit, but you can tell the difference between disinterest and being coy. The fact you equate all behaviors to each other is odd to say the least. Sure, someone who is bad at reading social cues might make a mistake about a cringe vs a smile but, damn, most the population can tell the difference. Respecting boundaries is something genuinely a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:08 PM
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You expect women to treat their body as though its a property? You are supposed to respect boundaries, boundary lines being disrespected is basically the cause of every war. With that analogy you're calling men predators. Women should not be expected to defend themselves by default, and this is still continuing to blame women for mens actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:51 PM
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... With common sense? If someone isn't into it or recuperating it's clear that they have not given nonverbal consent to the acts. If they're into one thing but once you advance further they are no longer interested, back off. Common. Sense. It isn't hard, and you have to deal with it more as a queer woman than a straight dude since you have to figure out if a woman is straight or not on top of the normal dating bullshit. Also, my flair is tongue in cheek. Someone called me that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:18 PM
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The answer is no, I don't expect anything from someone I'm invading the boundaries of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:07 PM
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I wouldn't disrespect known social boundaries for any reason. If someone was clearly uncomfortable with my advances or showed disinterest or looked like they had checked out I'd back the fuck off. I'd definitely not fucking touch someone without their consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:03 PM
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I'm already a grown ass woman, I respect boundaries of women I've courted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:58 PM
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My point was you haven't been a woman who experiences this frequently and often with the man being aggressive. But of course you took it at face value and as literally as you could.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:56 PM
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Actually if you want me to go with this stupid theoretic about adults being children, I'm saying men are children (I'm not, but since you're being unrelenting about calling women children, let's go down this route). When my brother was young, he was prone to violent temper tantrums. When in public and he wanted something my mom would be afraid to tell him no, because of his reaction. Of course, since he was five it wasn't fear for herself, it was embarrassment. Now let's say the only children my…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:48 PM
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No, I didn't say that, not even close. Nothing I said came close to saying what you did. You said a bunch of dumb shit and then dumped it on me in the form of a logical fallacy. Men are responsible for gaining consent and respecting others bodily autonomy. No, not all consent needs spoken, not all consent requires being asked, but it does require backing the fuck off when the other isn't recuperating. People are not responsible for their assaults, which is literally what you're saying with that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:22 PM
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...What? Are you daft or did you even read what I said? Many men react badly to being told no, it is dangerous to tell a stranger no. Women aren't brittle for not wanting to cause a scene or possibly endanger themselves. That's plain incorrect, like holy shit. Women are not responsible for preventing assaults against them. Men are accountable for their assault onto women, especially if they are not checking to see if a woman is okay with what they are doing. That's straight up part of the legal …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:56 PM
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A person with antisocial personality disorder is usually extremely apt at reading social cues, so unlikely to be a psychopath. If you're a fellow autie, that would explain some things. Social conditioning sucks, people have a hard time breaking it even when they know they can. Its good you're letting them know you have issues reading people, but a lot of women still aren't going to say anything during the act. Which is why I say ask, even when you expect explicit spoken "no"s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:49 PM
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... I think you have some severe inability to read nonverbal cues if that's the case, and that's coming from an autistic woman. I didn't say ask for consent for everything, not even close. I said if they're passive and not recuperating your touch, ask them, because clearly you can't read consent in nonverbal cues. Women will be more into you if you respect their boundaries, because right now, you're that dude. Women are socially conditioned to be conflict avoidant, we are groomed into fearing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:37 PM
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Doesn't matter what you knew, someone isn't going to tell you about their childhood trauma. Many women are afraid to reject men because men have a habit of reacting dangerously. This woman may be one who experienced that at one point in her life. After all, most women have. If you meet a woman and she isn't into you being touchy, just stop. Like, seriously, it isn't hard. Considering the fact they do not know the kind of dude you are, and many women won't tell you if they don't know how you'll r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:15 PM
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That largely has to do with the ratio of terp vs bloo, not much else. If you haven't noticed, almost every thread here is pretty dominated by TRP/no pill. Most first level comments are made by TRP, leaving little breathing room for TBP. Honest, good, debates require a better ratio so that people can give in and someone else can take over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 01:32 AM
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But isn't that completely bedside the point? I said something similar to him explaining that toxic masculinity is a theory that calls to light the toxicity of defining manhood by social traits and his reply was beyond daft.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:21 PM
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In terms of my previous comments? Not any that don't apply across the board, most social pressures applied to sexes are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 06:02 PM
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Uuuuh.. No. Toxic masculinity is a term for a theory of the toxic effects of the social pressures put onto men in the name of masculinity. Lazy strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:57 PM
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No shit, there's no intrinsically male social traits found across the board which is why forcing them socially creates toxic masculinity. You managed to both make my point and miss my point at the same time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:40 PM
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Not surprising seeing as TRP is enterprising off of toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:28 PM
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Being assertive, competitive, ambitious, dominant, naturally stoic, into traditionally masculine hobbies, having a masculine career, and literally anything else masculine that doesn't harm the individual, society or others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 04:52 PM
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Almost every part. The toxic parts of masculinity are those that are forced onto others by society. Things like entitlement (think Elliot Rogers), unhealthy coping mechanisms due to social pressure to be stoic, hateful treatment towards men who are deemed effeminate by society (gay/trans, emotional men, short men), discouragement of certain careers that are deemed feminine, certain hobbies as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 03:53 PM
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I'm telling you to put some effort in your strawman if you're going to bullshit so hard. Suggestions Red Pill Blue Pill 1 Live your own Life Live your life to serve a woman 2 Put yourself first Put a woman first 3 Follow your dreams Do everything in relation to her 4 Don't put any woman on a pedestal Put her on a pedestal 5 Hit the gym, eat healthy, take care of your body and mind Women love soyboys with dad's bodies Suggestions Red Pill Blue Pill 1 Live your own Life Live your own life, if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 05:06 PM
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Eh, sure. When your argument has no basis except a strawman in your head that doesn't even agree with what others of your group believe, its pretty ridiculous. And seeing as everyone else here uses a reasonable approach to their thoughts on the matter, whether or not I personally agree, your argument is the weakest and the least based in logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:52 PM
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In primates, especially apes like bonobos, who are the most similar in their social behaviors to ours, there isn't really selection behavior based on sex. They select based on mood more than anything and its something both sexes select or do not. They have sex at almost any mood, or even to say hi. So, I highly doubt we are much different. A lot of this pseudoscience that's perpetuated here makes no sense within the context of our species. Apes don't have that much selective behavior at all, usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:49 PM
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Now, this is the most ridiculous answer here by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:57 PM
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Toxic masculinity has been an issue for years, long before women were the "selectors" and long before women had any kind of say in the behavior of men. Most of the issues we face today with masculinity was caused, created by, and enforced during the Victorian era, an era notoriously against the progress of women. Many of our modern issues stem from Christianity and the church, if anything. This isn't blaming all men for it, it's blaming those who caused the issue in the first hand, who definitel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 06:43 PM
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There is a common concept of mysticism towards women and how they communicate that men perpetuate. Many men genuinely do not know the reason women seem to be magically able to tell something about someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:30 PM
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The spidey sense is literally just a combination of not being emotionally compromised by the girl and having a better ability to read nonverbal cues. Men and women have completely different communicative abilities, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:17 PM
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You seriously are completely missing the fundamental aspect of the term "toxic masculinity". Most aspects of toxic masculinity are fine, in moderation, and as long as they aren't forced upon those who do not adhere to traditional masculinity. The problem stems from rampent and toxic attitudes due to hyper masculinity of the man o sphere as well as the hateful mentality towards that which is percieved as feminine. If the world is in our favor, how is it that anything associated with women is seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:31 PM
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..Okay, ignoring all the problems with the idea that's got anything to do with what feminism fights to have, you realize we aren't talking modern issues right? We are talking 60s-70s when the MRA formed. That's mid-first wave and young-second wave feminism. The MRA were fighting against women asking for basic equal treatment at home and in the workplace. They have valid points, the reason they are defunct is because they don't do anything to help fight those issues. They just complain about them…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:26 PM
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The reason its "problematic" is because basically all "mens rights" groups, barring mens lib, were formed out of retaliation towards feminism and female progress. No other reason, there's a reason that MRA typically don't help the causes they talk about but instead use them as talking points when arguing with feminists. I've spent a large amount of time in those circles, and you know how few actually fight those causes? Often far less than their feminist counterpart. They're a "hate group" becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 03:19 PM
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Did you miss the word fantasy in your own comment? It is absolutely not something women believe they will get, it's a fantasy. Women on average dont have that unattainable of standards when it comes to actual relationships. Are you going to pretend men don't also have ridiculous fantasies?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 04:27 PM
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Well, for one, he's barely a year older than me, so the whole "women like older men" thing is false in my case, I've never dated a man more than three years my senior. He just got extremely lucky right after he finished schooling whereas I had to move to advance myself. I agree he played a lot of dread games, however, your assertion that my love was opportunistic is still incorrect. If that was the case, what would be gained? I always split bills, buy equally expensive gifts and paid for us to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 01:49 AM
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I'm sorry but I have to laugh at the idea women only love opportunistically. My ex was so opportunistic and exactly how you described women in this situation. He thought in terms of what I provided to him. If I could not pull my weight he would shame me and make me feel like a burden. Despite the fact he had a full fledged career and I was just beginning mine when we met so of course I didn't have as much free time or money as he did. And here I was unconditionally loving him despite how he trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:07 PM
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I mean, it isn't a hypothetical situation. I didn't even really think about it until I read your comment. TRP makes this seem like something someone will never experience. Something specifically you told someone just now couldn't happen. My biggest eyebrow raising moments with TRP come from the idea that somehow a man is less because he isn't the male definition of masculine. Most women don't give a shit about that as much as TRP makes it seem like. It only matters to the extent TRP makes it out…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 01:49 AM
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This isn't related to the overall topic, but it is related to what you said. I'm curious what you'd think if I said that I broke up with what most on TRP would call an alpha, granted far more progressive and kind than what is the norm over there, outgoing, extroverted, social, ripped, so forth, for a guy who would probably would be called a beta, introverted, shy, skinny, nerdy, dorky, so forth. Like genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 01:18 AM
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She's by no means ugly, but she's exactly the kind of girl I would imagine being interested in a 30 year old conservative dude. Reminds me of all the girls from where I was raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:21 PM
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Not really but your argument is idiotic at best in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:50 PM
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Also, you realize that is completely fucking logical not to have the ssn memorized yet? You aren't supposed to take it with you places and you get one through a documentation process for work visas, which you get after you move to the US. I still can't remember mine and I was born here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:39 PM
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Oh my god. Are you intentionally playing daft? No. I'm saying that even legal residents don't usually have ssn yet. If they can legally have jobs while in the US without one, so can any other immigrant, regardless of if they are documented or not. It is not a crime to work in the us without one. Nor is it illegal to live in the US while undocumented.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:32 PM
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No... You don't. When you're working with a visa, you don't get a ssn, so what exactly do you believe documented immigrants put? There's special paperwork for immigrants, you don't fill out the same fucking paperwork as naturalized citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:23 PM
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You don't have to fill that out for most jobs ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:18 PM
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Not true, in the slightest, lol. Dude, you're seriously talking straight out your ass. Look up the legalities before talking in absolutes. Some people do the things you're talking about but seeing as I work for and with a fuck ton of immigrants, some of whom are undocumented yet legally working here I know for a fact that it isn't even close to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:09 PM
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It's actually not a considered a crime by the American legal system to be an undocumented immigrant. Illegal immigrant is a layman's term and not accurate to the law. There's a reason they only get deported and not taken to court or fined for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:58 PM
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How long has it been since you used the app? While you can still message people regardless of if they match with you, you only get messages from others if you match with them, or by looking at their profile when swiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 04:48 AM
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OkCupid has a far more diverse and specific search feature than shitty parties and tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 01:14 AM
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I guess I don't see it because my mom was a single mother when raising me, she was called a whore and a lot of other things of the sort, whereas my dead beat dad goes on to (barely) raise a brother of mine and is constantly receiving praise since my brothers mom isn't in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 10:51 PM
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Okay, so there's an issue I don't think I'm understanding from your perspective I guess. You're redpill, right? Isn't that... What you want to be assumed? As that is the assumption being made, that would mean women are in their "rightful place" in the home enough assuming otherwise is abnormal? Otherwise, no one aside from those close with women or men that are single parents would know they worked two jobs. Neither are assumed strong from strangers who have no life details from the parents in q…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 10:06 PM
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But what does that have to do with what was said here? Yes, that's an issue, but not just from women. It's a side effect of having a culture that believes men should not be involved with their children the way women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 09:40 PM
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While it's true that if a man walks out on a woman who was previously a stay at home mom, her life and ability to provide would be much harder than a man who was previously the bread winner having to take care of his child who was previously taken care of by a stay at home mother. It is not true that this is a majority of single parents. What is true is that most single parents are not ones where they are already established in society. Single parents are often barely not children themselves. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 06:03 PM
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A man raising a child while working two jobs would most definitely be called a strong man. A man who is simply working two jobs is not, nor a woman working two jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 02:40 PM
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Yeah, either way, you're calling yourself the pigeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 09:28 AM
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You see that 1 and 2? Those are different definitions of the same word. The second is clearly what I was talking about, you ignore things right in front of you a lot. Now I'm done replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 09:27 AM
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The patriarchy can also be a household ran by men, but that is a different definition. Even if you want to pretend that there aren't still patriarchal households, you cannot argue that the government is not patriarchal. Also, saying the government is a patriarchy isn't the same thing as saying men have all the power, stop shoving your strawman onto me. Okay, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:13 AM
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You have some serious issues with comprehension, just because you can't read context, doesn't make it a lie. Good bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:10 AM
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Third wave is also about societal equality, not just legal, which racial and sexual and definitely gender minorities don't have. The women's march was about more than one thing because Trump wants to harm more than one kind of women, legally. ...Do you know what a patriarchy is? It's a government ran by men, what the US has. You aren't even going to try to see other's POV, so I'm done with this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 07:00 AM
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No, these individuals, AKA the one's we were talking about. Read the full sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 06:54 AM
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Okay? That doesn't make it a double standard unless the same feminist expects to be heard and yet talks over others. Even then that doesn't make the group have double standards, just those individuals. Again, feminists are not a hive mind. Third wave feminism is still about gaining rights for women, just like men's groups are about gaining rights for men. It's called equity, focusing on an individual demographic to strive for equality. Third wave just happens to focus more on minorities where pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 03:15 AM
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Yeah, it was. That's why I replied to your comment the way I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:45 AM
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Feminists are not a hive mind, you are talking to me, and put words into my mouth. Because I don't know what you consider masculinity, I did ask you what you meant by that, if you recall. I personally have trouble distinguishing between traits intended to be masculine or feminine because personality wise, I'm pretty androgynous. Dude. It's an article about mass murderers. They have a stereotype, white, male, usually straight and from middle class to upper class upbringing. There is a problem wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:47 AM
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How is it a double standard? Feminists aren't a hive mind. Some feminists are shitty, big surprise, they're people. Most won't talk over men's issues if it's within their own spaces or the dialogue isn't intended to talk over women. And, no, feminism is first and foremost about women, how is it rich that the conversation is about women when the group is about women? They don't act against a group who genuinely wants to help. I mean, shit, even tumblr feminists have been helping raise awareness a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:38 AM
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See? You really didn't understand what I was saying. My original point was that issues discussed are widely accepted within the Men's Lib group, but not well accepted into the MRM. Not that MRM ideals would be accepted into Men's Lib. Complete opposite of how you're taking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:28 AM
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pigeon%20chess
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:25 AM
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Lol, Jesus. Way to completely change what someone says to suit your agenda. Toxic masculinity isn't traits, it's social expectations of men. Suppressing emotions is not a trait, it's a social expectation, men can't be raped is not a trait, it's a social assumption, men should be strong is not a trait, it's a social expectation, men don't want to be parents is not a trait, it's a social expectation... I can keep going if you don't understand yet. And yet it is, as even when its not forced its see…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 12:07 AM
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You know you just contradicted yourself, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 11:49 PM
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You didn't even try to make a point that can be argued. Men's lib was still alive and well in the 90's, you can claim something doesn't exist but facts show otherwise. Also, you didn't really compute what I said on the second point, because that's not what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 11:49 PM
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"What about the menz" is a phrase that is making fun of people who try to talk over women's issues with things men face. It isn't saying that it isn't an issue but using it to silence women is not helping them. You can try and change it to mean something else, but that has always been the case. People who talk shit about female victims by citing male victims don't give a shit about the victims at all, they just want to silence others discussion. And you won't find a third wave feminist that thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 11:46 PM
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You know you just called yourself completely ignorant, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 08:19 PM
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Yeah, because feminism is totally not intersectional. These are strawman arguments, come back with some solid basis and I'll listen but for now, this is exactly why I don't like arguing about feminism with people who have already made their minds up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 07:16 PM
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They talk about how misogyny affects men, that isn't the same thing as talking about women since many of men's issues have a root cause of "feminine" things being shameful. Example, male rape victims are often not taken seriously because of the societal assumption that only women can be victims of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 07:12 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 07:10 PM
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What do you consider "masculine traits"? I genuinely couldn't think of anything that is an actual trait of masculinity, and not just a social expectation that's talked about with toxic masculinity. Being stoic isn't seen as negative, even within toxic masculinity, as long as it isn't forced upon the individual. What black and white thinking? Toxic masculinity is societal, not just internalized, that includes women, and society. Toxic masculinity is a term that is used to describe a specific kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 07:09 PM
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Great argument buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 07:04 PM
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Toxic masculinity is societal, I said that. It's internalized by all people, just like misogyny and misandry. Cool, thanks for pointing out the fact that individuals do in fact have individualized opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 07:03 PM
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I'm talking about the movement, the sub is a small section of the movement itself. Also, why put toxic masculinity in quotations? Toxic masculinity is what causes many of the societal problems that men face, even if you don't like the term itself. It's the term used to describe why men are made fun of for being victims of abuse, for showing many emotions, encouraged to be more aggressive, for being shamed for not looking like Alexander Skargaard. All of it comes from our societal definition of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:56 PM
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Polls like that have never been accurate, you can see the truth for yourself through their actions, even if they don't say it outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:11 PM
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You're arguing with something from the 90's, and on comments that I don't even agree with. There are multiple sources like this, but that was the only one available for free. The movements have evolved, but go and look at /r/MensRights and compare it to /r/MensLib, only one is full of hate and spends a good chunk of it's time on feminists, the other actually has many articles and threads dedicated to the discussion of men's issues, even if you personally don't like the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:08 PM
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Here is one I can link you to: http://othes.univie.ac.at/5454/1/2009-06-17_9908325.pdf The other is called "Die Bewegung der 'Männerrechtler' im Wien der Zwischenkriegszeit" by Elisabeth Malleier, which I can't find online but is referenced quite a lot in other papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 06:36 PM
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Let me refer you back to this: I'm not here to argue this point or do I want to because most pro/anti feminist arguments are fruitless, just telling you the reasoning behind the stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 06:11 PM
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I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think you know the history of the group. The Men's Liberation movement began by scholars studying feminist ideologies, this movement began as pro-feminist critical assessment cultural views of masculinity and the tax that it had on men (which would be like not believing male rape victims exist or shaming boys for showing certain emotions). It split into two groups, one stayed men's lib and the other was dubbed the Men's Rights Movement. The MRM was an anti-fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 06:10 PM
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I've been actively part of feminist circles for about 10-15 years, and never once have i met a feminist that doesn't think that men deserve equal custody rights. The problem is what the groups see as equal rights. Many feminists believe, with their own evidence to back it up, that men are equally granted custody, if custody is fought for by the father. The problem is that men don't ask for custody at the same frequency as women. Here is an example of where the mentality comes from: http://www.vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 05:51 PM
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I think you're mistaking the MRM for men's lib. The MRA are anti feminists at the core and foundation of the group and as such care more about that then men's rights, ironically. Men's lib on the other hand is a group who is feminist friendly and actively work towards fixing the problems men face. Feminists are willing to work with men's lib, but are less likely to work with the MRM, due to the groups history with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:23 AM
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Spike, from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But mostly after his redemption, so dunno if that counts, since he's mostly an anti-hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 05:44 AM
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I didn't say it's ironic because it was you who said it, I said it's ironic you said that on this sub. A sub that only exists because of trp, which has a huge issue with doing that. I am autistic, that means I have issues reading body language and with social cues, if I am able to read someone else's discomfort, there is really no excuse for someone that doesn't have a disability that hinders social intelligence. To continue with your analogy, even though you're shit at understanding math, you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:03 PM
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Lol, how ironic that you are saying that on this sub. TRP blames all women on their own problems and continues to blame them while changing themselves. No one is saying all men are the issue, but if a man doesn't understand the, nearly always, plain as day discomfort a woman is taught not to voice aloud, the man being obtuse is the issue, not a woman for being too polite to verbally shame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:45 PM
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That is a logical fallacy. I didn't say children can't be abused but that you shouldn't compare adult relationships to a parental relationship, the dynamic is clearly different. Don't grasp at straws to try and justify yourself. I'd love to hear your version of my logic because using just a little critical thinking would put you at a different conclusion. Gaslighting is not normal for any relationship, nor is infantilizing nor manipulating your partner. I already stated red flags do not always m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:23 PM
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So many false equivalencies in your comment. A child parent relationship is not the same thing as an adult relationship. Red flags are indicators of abuse, they do not always equate to abuse. However, when many red flags are combined they are no longer just indicators of future abuse, but abuse itself. What trp encourages is psychological abuse. Manipulating and infantilizing women, then taking advantage of the damage they have caused. Using the dread game, which in other instances is referred t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 05:36 PM
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Do you not know the definition of a red flag? Domestic abuse can be emotional abuse, not just physical. A good chunk of TRP tactics involve emotional abuse, gaslighting is another common one. Also, I have personally been in both emotionally and physically abusive relationships and I can tell you as a survivor of both that one is just as bad as the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:31 PM
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Both negging and dread game are huge red flags for future abuse. Abuse that trp encourages is just as bad as what those groups do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:05 PM
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Ah yes, bpers are mindless drones who don't understand their actions. They totally aren't "pc" because being intolerant, demeaning, and inconsiderate to others is just plain shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:54 PM
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My being a woman does not change the fact it is a disability that affects my life, if you're claiming that my being a woman means I have easier access to sex even when autistic, you are ignoring the fact many people don't think women can be autistic. The second superficial people realize I'm not just awkward, they leave. And I have never saught out an artificial relationship. If autistic incels saught out people that are in their league, stopped with the awful attitude, they would find someone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 06:04 PM
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Originally with anger, and a lot of self doubt since everyone, but my mom, told me my struggles weren't real, I taught myself to hide away so teachers wouldn't bully me in school, my classmates were never as bad as my teachers about my disability. I've learned to take it in stride and use it as a chance to educate and I'm no longer quite so insecure in myself, I've embraced my autistic self, which honestly helps a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 05:31 PM
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You think 10% of the population cuckold enough that they have children by others? I also don't believe humans are pair-bonding, but I also don't equate polyamory with hypergamy, by default, since most poly relationships I know are triads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 05:14 PM
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I get it just fine. It's a poor excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 04:51 PM
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Who said anything about sympathy? Autism is a disorder ignored in women, which means that my disability is often thought to be nothing more than being socially awkward on the most superficial aspects until they get to know me better. You are basically stating all of my relationships are completely artificial, because my autism cannot be overlooked. Autism affects every single aspect of my life, it is a disability that requires special accommodations that, frankly, aren't worth the effort if it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 04:49 PM
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So, you really were quoting the sources I thought you were. Those studies are from a historical perspective, and even say that. They are not statistics that reflect current trends, but ones that show what happened with polygamy in the past. Find evidence of current trends and I may change my opinion on the matter, but those tell us nothing about our society right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 04:28 PM
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You really should show valid sources for where that statistic comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 04:09 PM
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Yeah, pussy pass for a disorder who many people don't even recognize women can have and instead repeatedly told me throughout my life to act normal, because obviously I'm not autistic, since I'm not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 04:07 PM
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And shocker, there have been guys I've dated who are also on the spectrum. We're a community, autistic people tend to hang with other autistic people. The real deal breakers are attitude, as was already said. I don't want to date someone constantly moaning about how awful women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 04:05 PM
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I'm an aspie, with all the common ticks and I've never had that issue. Bad excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 05:21 AM
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Language evolves, slang evolves the quickest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 07:35 PM
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It's because SJW doesn't mean what it once did, instead of being used in instances of "speaking Spanish is cultural appropriation cis scum" it is now used against people who say just about anything leftist in nature. Anyone leftist on this site who enjoys arguments has likely been called one a multitude of times, so of course there is mild defensiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 07:23 PM
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Genuine question, how do I have my "panties in a twist" in this context? I just said social justice =/= SJW but social conservatives often don't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 06:40 PM
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Soc Jus is literally just a shortening of the words social and justice and is used as such in all other instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:27 AM
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I'd assume anyone who used social justice as a synonym for SJW (such as OP) to likely not know the distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 08:44 PM
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You may be saying it but recall what subreddit you are on. TRP is socially conservative and many among them use SJW to mean "anyone to the left of my ideology".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 07:43 PM
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dude, this isn't a thing with "SJW", SJW (going by the assumption you're talking tumbrites) are third wave feminists typically, third wave feminism is all about women making their own choices, being a traditional house wife, as long as it is consented upon by the woman in question is not frowned upon. You're mixing a media stereotype of second wave feminists with the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 07:39 PM
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The superiority of not thinking that men are all better than women and that women are scheming stupid creatures?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 07:21 PM
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Because you aren't trying to understand something that changes person to person, you're trying to figure out a puzzle that doesn't exist. Treating women like people instead of some alien creature is that illusive puzzle you're trying to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 12:25 AM
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That's so hilariously not what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 12:18 AM
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Women are people. End of sentence. People in general are not that interesting. That's why people find it so weird that TRP puts figuring out the female brain on such a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:52 PM
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When you base your ideas on something you discuss between men the answer is going to be different. Different women like different things. I personally like someone who is more dominant than I am (which isn't hard to do) but I hate guys that are obsessed with masculinity, the type that think any touch of emotion or anything stereotypically "feminine" is gross. I can't stand to be around them. I'm also more into sensitive and nerdy guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:02 AM
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Did you really just unironically agree with something from American Psycho? You understand that his personality is supposed to be absolutely detestable and nothing about him is likable? That scene is meant to make you start disliking him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 12:57 AM
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guys who would consider talking to you with your headphones in never cared about the social rules anyway. You understand how that contradicts what you're saying about yourself, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 04:18 AM
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He has great charisma, so what are you now going to say lets you get away with it? He does everything fine, he's great at everything but social rules. Even how he talks is fine when he's interacting with a stranger. It's his friends he lets loose around. But he stands too close, and does things that are against social rules. Like talking to people who have headphones in. The guys who get away with it were never concerned with being seen as rude or creepy to begin with. I have brightly colored ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 01:21 AM
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I never said that you must always do that, but you're rude if you do. Confidence and good looks don't mean you get to disregard social rules. I know a guy who is confident and graceful and all that shit that TRP loves but is completely socially inept, he breaks social rules all the time. People like him completely destroy your POV because he rarely gets girls despite being charming and good looking. He even jokes about himself saying girls only like him from afar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 12:47 AM
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Not really, I just understand how annoying people who ignore unspoken social rules are. Have you never seen the memes? They're shitty Facebook memes but considering the thousands of thousands of likes, shares and comments they get I'm pretty sure it's common. I mean, just look up "headphones mean I don't want to talk".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 09:11 AM
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They may be listening to music, but there is a reason they're doing that. If they wanted to talk they wouldn't be doing that in the first place. People busy themselves in public to avoid interacting with strangers, it's a social code to leave them be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:52 AM
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Ever think that maybe the reason people wear headphones or act busy in public is so others will leave them alone? You lack social common sense if you don't know that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:52 AM
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I meant in relation to usernames. But thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:21 PM
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Except it does in refer to the man in your story instance. And it is obvious you are intentionally taking it the other way now, after realizing you misunderstood them. What you quoted from me with that response has no relation to each other. It does, actually, it was what you said in response to me voicing my opinion implied that you think that I don't realize what I said was, in a manner, in agreement to your point. However, I do not agree with you on intent. Objectifying a woman and basing her…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:15 PM
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So sorry, you sound exactly like them and I don't make a habit of going back and checking everything they say. Holy hell, context, it exists. You're saying I am saying that, when in fact you can see there was no paragraph break. That means the next sentence goes back to the context of the last. I was still explaining their view point and discussion points.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:58 PM
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The RP man won't go out of his way to help a rape victim because he sees her, others like her and women as objects. That the you see is directly stating that it is the redpill man from your story. My arguments were telling you what they were saying because you didn't understand what they were saying. It was explaining the point of view you misconstrued. It wasn't my opinion. Which is what the entire fucking point of this thread and other was. It's men voicing that they cannot handle that. Aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:25 PM
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They were making a point. Your entire comment is just assumptions. They were using the context of your initial statement to draw conclusions. No one is generalizing except for you, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:11 PM
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The person I responded to called all RPers as irrational evil woman haters. In the scenario you devised and even then, that was not what they said. They were talking about your hypothetical evil man, not RP as a whole. You assumed that is what they meant. For not wanting to invest in a woman who owes you nothing. This implies that you use women. But I'm pretty sure it's a typo. Either way, why would you not help a person not in need? That's pretty fucking shitty no matter what. What you intended…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 09:53 PM
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You can be truthful about something while having different motives. One example you used sees women as not being worthy of love if the love is not benefiting you the other understands women are worthy of love even if you can't be the one to give it. A RP man notices that he owes no comfort to a rape victim. And that is hateful to you - because you are at your core motivated by intense hatred of men. You project. Wat? You brought up hate. The person to whom you are replying was replying in a hypo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 08:57 PM
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You misinterpreted what they said. They are the ones who are saying something about helping and comforting a rape victim. They're saying redpill would not help a female rape victim, let alone date one. Because redpill objectifies/loathes women and doesn't really care about how women feel. While bluepill will help a rape victim, even if they would not date them. Because bluepill does not objectify women and does care about how women feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 08:51 PM
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I mean, he is contributing, he's uniting RP and BP in a way this sub rarely does, even if it is through both of us hating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:09 PM
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I think it is the first time I've actually laughed while browsing this sub. Usually I come here to stabilize my overly optimistic view of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:06 PM
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I already discussed the original topic, explained the exact reasoning behind the existence of third wave feminism and why "allowed" isn't talking about legality. You are the one who decided to drift the topic. Don't go around blaming others. There is a reason you're trying to change the subject now and I believe that is because you know you're in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 02:00 AM
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What? How does that even remotely "distance" myself from the movement? I am a feminist. claiming that only 30% of the population supports feminism. 30% isn't a small number, it's the highest it's been since they began recording the numbers. Nor is that the number of people who support feminism, many men support feminism but do not identify themselves that way and the same for some women. That is the number of people who identify themselves as feminists. Not those who support the movement, not pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:33 AM
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Incorrect. I've already discussed it on this thread, even if you refuse to acknowledge the reason why third wave exists, it has a perfectly justifiable reason to. I don't share the sentiment because I think worse of TRP. TRP is a bunch of grown men who act like children because they can't get what they don't deserve. If they were to grow up and actually think constructively about why women don't like them instead assuming all women are the problem it wouldn't exist. I am looking at the larger pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 12:40 AM
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You shifted literally all of the blame away from those at fault to feminists entirely. Pretty impressive. Also, I'm not part of a hive mind. I thought TRP was a bunch of "neckbeard losers" who are ostracized by society? I guess that narrative only works when it's convenient, just like everything else, right? Did I say that? Pretty sure I've never said that. Got some pretty strong strawman arguments here don't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 11:47 PM
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Do you know what the patriarchy is? It was never done away with. Nuclear families with men being the primary financial provider still exist, sexism still exists, believing women are the weaker sex still exists, TRP is a great example of how the patriarchy still exists, men are largely the majority people in our government and in influential positions. Until it is even there will be a patriarchy, even if women have equality completely in law the opinion of man will be the driving factor in govern…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 10:12 PM
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My entire education through from elementary through college was like this. It's not uncommon. Even if it is illegal. Bringing pocket knives to school was also enough to get a teacher arrested, didn't stop a good half my teachers from bringing them. Also had teachers who were openly highly racist and homophobic and would teach their opinions like facts. That is also illegal. A few of those teachers were sexist as well that would do very similar things described here. If I wasn't to believe that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 10:01 PM
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This wave is intended to question and criticize society and what society does that affect women. While third wave feminists still believe in everything the previous waves believed in and will continue to fight to protect what was previously achieved the unique aspects of third wave is that it's more about challenging and questioning societal values and stigma than it is about laws and doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 04:22 AM
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I think you missed the point of what they were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 09:01 PM
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I love how the blue side of this is eloquent and actually explain why it's true or not and then red is basically going "NUH UH!" or making up a hypothetical situation to validate their point, it's very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 08:45 PM
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Yeah, those can still be achieved through masturbation. I bet for many women they only come through masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 08:20 PM
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You have to either do introspection or talk to someone about them. Most people cannot properly do introspection without being taught, being left with negative emotions without working through them is emotional buildup. It's not "giving power" over you. Humans are social creatures, you need to have someone there for you. If you feel like being given trust in the form of someone telling you their troubles is some kind of leverage, that's unhealthy to say the least. If you don't trust people on suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:54 PM
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My ex broke up with me, not the other way around. It's not for me to say why he did, since it was about him, but it wasn't because of anything I did. My current boyfriend I met online first, actually. I had no idea what he looked like for the first four months we talked. We only talked about Pokemon and anime for the most part, so not really following your mold or ideas on how I ended up with him. TRP men frequently post field reports, of the ones I have seen and some of the highest upvoted post…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:45 PM
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There are nice guys, Nice Guys and then there are Nice Guys™. Nice guys are guys who are nice, Nice Guys are guys who have no other note worthy characteristics other than the fact they are nice and Nice Guys™ are guys who say they're nice but they're only nice to women because they think they will be rewarded with relationships/sex for being nice, once they know they will not be rewarded they go back to default state of asshole. He is the most neutral of the warped sources TRP uses, but he's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 03:12 AM
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You didn't even wait or read what I said, did you? Not what a Nice Guys™ is. Also, are you actually advocating reading a book by someone who prides themselves in the fact that they've been on the The O'Reilly Factor enough to include it in their book statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:46 AM
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That's not "everything TRP says is common sense". That's strangers info dumping is off putting for everyone. It's not exclusively men who aren't allowed to do it. It's improper to do so for anyone. It's part of most cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:38 AM
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Yeah... I feel bad for your outlook on life. That's really not true, any of it. Emotional build up and not being taught how to manage your emotions is what happens when you're told from a young that the only negative emotion that is acceptable to display as a man is anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:33 AM
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That's not much depth. Not very stimulating. Empathy is interesting, common ground and topics that people have opinions on is what makes good conversation, not egocentricity. What are your interests? Your hobbies? Your favorite books? Video game? What's your thought on the current socio-economic downfalls of the government? (Don't actually answer those.) Nope, missed the point. If I told you my last boyfriend was heavier, nerdy guy who was too shy to ask me out or talk to me the first time you'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:30 AM
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I don't think you understand objectification on a more fundamental level. Objectification isn't thinking they aren't a person on some level. It's treating them as less and caring more about them as an object. TRP focuses on having sex with women, treats that as the end goal. Seeing women as a hole that you can stick your dick in is objectification, even if you understand they are human and in order to achieve your end goal you must treat them as humans. Entitlement to use, not entitlement to own…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:13 AM
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Nice Guys™ are not damaged goods or abused. They're men with entitlement issues that think you get rewarded for basic human decency. I'm sure a few have faced abuse, just because it's statistically impossible for any group not to have abuse, but that has nothing to do with Nice Guys™.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:06 AM
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Yeah, because you don't info dump on people you're just getting to know. That's common sense and not just for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:04 AM
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What does objectification mean? Why is it bad? Objectification is treating people as though they are objects, that leads to entitlement and mistreatment. The rest of what you said is situational and not how it's used in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:04 PM
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That isn't what "damaged goods" implies. "Damaged goods" implies that they are worth nothing and should be thrown away. That's fucked up. People who have low self esteem and are insecure are that way because of things said/done to them. You're saying you would never see one of these people as worthy of putting in effort to help them with those problems, even if all their other qualities are good. It's also almost exclusively used in reference to women and equates them to something to be owned, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 10:43 PM
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...What. No one said "men and women are the same". Being controlled by your emotions =/= showing your emotions. Throwing a temper tantrum like a 5 year old is not attractive, getting upset and handling it properly is. TRP has an inability to understand that women like emotional men, but no one likes people who act like children when confronted by emotions. Really? All women can pick up a partner that will last without any effort. Well, I'll be damned. While women probably could have sex when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 09:56 PM
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I think what I have the most issues with RP theory is the misogyny combined with how disingenuous you all seem. Charm only goes so far if there is no depth to your character. My current boyfriend is 6'3, a body builder and traditionally masculine, which is why I said "small chance". He's different than what I'd normally go for but he is what I think you all strive to be, however, it's without being disingenuous to himself. He's still nerdy, sensitive and introverted while being confident, outgoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:10 PM
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I liked your comment up until the point of calling girls who are insecure or have low self-esteem "damaged goods". Kind of messed up. Could have just said "women looking for validation". Same point, but without the cruel phrase interjected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:06 PM
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You know, hiding your emotions and pretending to be stoic is very unhealthy. Many women like a man who is open about his emotions. However, letting your emotions control you is not very attractive, which is what TRP seems to struggle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:52 PM
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You and I have had a few conversations, all of which we completely disagree with each other. When you say "TRP aren't assholes" I completely disagree, I think that most guys who join TRP are converted Nice Guys™ (what I usually see you all calling beta). A different kind of asshole, but still an asshole. I'm not attracted to any of the behaviors any of you display, other than confidence. All the rest of the shit you all pull is a sure fire way to get me to never respect you as a person and more …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:49 PM
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Nah, it's more about the fact that assholes are trying to excuse the fact they're assholes by saying it's nature. Also, the fact that the same people claim it's what women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 03:42 AM
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Being overweight is not an eating disorder. Binge eating is an eating disorder. You think that those who are overweight only get that way because that is the only way you could get that weight. Most people who are overweight get that way due to eating slightly too many calories for their metabolism over time, childhood diet habits, eating unhealthy foods from lack of variety (which is usually caused by poverty) or mild medical problems. I honest to god only know of one or two obese people who go…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 07:24 PM
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http://time.com/14407/the-hidden-dangers-of-skinny-fat/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 01:12 AM
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Wooow
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 05:36 AM
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Cool. But you did use it that way when you replied before. So, there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 05:10 AM
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..No one said skinny was skinnyfat. Except you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 05:08 AM
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But.. I do know? Why are you trying to shrug off being wrong so hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 04:56 AM
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That is what a ton of people are saying. Health risks does not mean they have anything actually wrong, it just means they could. People who are skinnyfat run nearly the same risks as someone who is overweight because of the fat deposits around their organs. Actually, many doctors recommend people stay overweight if there are other health problems that can be aggravated by a weight loss regimen. Especially if your insurance won't cover lipo or a quick fix method. Instead, they recommend diet chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 12:26 AM
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Then tell me, what do you think skinnyfat is? Because it's a vernacular word used to mean someone who is skinny but does not eat right or exercise while maintaining their weight in the entire USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 12:14 AM
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Do you really not understand what I'm saying? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Therefore, when someone is overweight and saying they are beautiful, they are doing it for themselves. Not you, what you find attractive doesn't matter in this situation. No one is judging you for what you find attractive, they may find it shallow, but they aren't judging you for not being attracted to them. They might also be judging you for forcing your opinion somewhere it wasn't wanted or asked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:54 AM
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Because beauty isn't just your view point. You're being narcissistic to think that everyone only finds what you find attractive, attractive. It's a personal thing, stop shitting on people's happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:58 AM
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They are not telling you to be attracted to them, most people have a basic amount of respect they apply to people equally. They are asking for that. But since you claim you don't feel a basic amount of respect towards people, it does not apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 05:50 AM
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I'm not "weasel wording" anything. I do not think people will lose their shit at you expressing your preference if you are asked about your preference. Everything is conditional and you will come across as an asshole if you go into a circle of people looking for support and say you find them ugly, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 04:06 AM
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I am not being obtuse. You asked a question a certain way and I answered it how it would be reacted to within the context. You just want me to agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:46 AM
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By saying that you only find thinner women attractive? But why would you ever be required to express your preference in a HAES setting?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:05 AM
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HAES isn't just women, but okay. Yeah, because you're doing exactly what I said is rude. If you go into a group and say that without being asked your opinion, that makes you an asshole. No one wants unsolicited opinions, they're annoying and unwarranted. I bet anything, with the women who unfriended you, it was a last straw, since you seem pretty red pill. Women don't like men who see them as lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:08 AM
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I just told you the answer. If you insult those you find unattractive that is bullying. Having a preference is not. If you speak your preference for no reason when talking to an overweight person that's pretty rude but I wouldn't call it bullying. If it came up in a conversation and was relevant, definitely not bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 12:25 AM
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Do you insult people over their appearances when you find them unattractive? That is bullying. Do you keep your opinion to yourself? That's a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 12:11 AM
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They don't down play the effects, they say that just because you are skinnier does not mean you live as healthily as they do or are even as healthy as them, period. People assume skinny people are healthy when that's seriously not true. The point is that HAES is about living as healthily as possible. A side effect of HAES is that people lose weight. Another direct result of HAES is that people think being overweight isn't a problem. You said this. I was telling you that HAES does not do this. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:15 PM
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You don't seem to get that skinnyfat people are always skinny but skinny people are not always skinnyfat. No one was using them as synonyms. You are not correct, you're just being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:07 PM
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Who you're attracted to has nothing to do with the BPM.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:06 PM
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Nope. You're being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:37 AM
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No one is arguing what you said. My point is that you do not know better than their doctor. You don't know their story or why they are overweight. You don't know what they are doing to change it, or what's best for them but their doctor does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:33 AM
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HAES is literally health at every size. It applies to everyone. Underweight, fat and everyone in between. Not true. They think that commenting on weight is inappropriate considering you don't know better than their doctor. The "advice" people give overweight people is usually not that unique and not the first time they've been told it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:01 AM
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Apparently. They're fighting against bullying others for their looks and about everyone being treated with the basic respect all people deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:56 AM
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What do you think HAES and the BPM are fighting against?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:53 AM
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There is no "fragility" it's knowing that treating others like shit isn't right. You miss the fact that people see the "truth" every day of their lives, by how others treat them. Bullying gets nothing done, it just gives people depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:48 AM
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You see a lot of it on TiA which doesn't represent any movement of any form, ever. If you go onto Tumblr and other places involved in the movement you'll see a lot of people cheering each other on and happy for those losing weight and many people trying to change their lifestyle. You also see a lot of "Just because you're thinner than I am does not mean you are healthier" which is true. Being skinny means nothing in regards to health unless other things are done as well. I don't believe there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:40 AM
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Why not inspire them to be the best they can be, tell them that it is possible to eat right, exercise, lose weight, and be healthy? Or better yet, that they should do this? I'm aware that you disagree with me but you described the movement almost completely, minus one word. Compassion. Do you actually think the movement is "making excuses for fat people to be lazy"? That disagrees with HAES on every level. FA is a subcatagory of the body positivity movement it is about people accepting their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:07 AM
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You keep misusing the phrase. Health at every size means eat right and exercise a consequence of HAES is that people lose weight, unless they are like me and have problems losing it, even when eating right. I've already explained to you what HAES is. Do you judge skinny people the way you do overweight people? You don't know what skinny people do in their free time, they could be couch potatoes, eat nothing but fast food, drink nothing but soda and smoke a pack of cigarettes a day. HAES applies …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:46 AM
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When I say sedentary, I mean compared to previous generations, say to make ends meet you work two jobs that are both desk work, when would you work out? People don't eat big macs when they're poor unless they have absolutely no time to dedicate to cooking. It's not enabling behavior, it's understanding not everyone can do what you do. YOU ARE LITERALLY DESCRIBING HAES.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:18 AM
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You don't seem to get how much society has changed over the last millennia, medication and other things like it as well as a highly sedentary lifestyle and food deserts make it almost impossible to live a healthy, active lifestyle when you don't have money. There is a reason why the poverty stricken are more likely to be obese. Being active and thin is honestly something only those well off can afford to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:19 AM
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But you understand not everyone has the option to do that right? That what I did was extremely dangerous and very expensive if you don't have insurance coverage? I was on Risperdal while going through puberty, it causes weight gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:26 AM
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Okay, if you're actually curious. I've always been active and always ate right. I ate the amounts that is suggested by my GP for my height and weight to lose weight but never did. I wanted to make a change before I got older and had more trouble, so I went to a dietitian, talked to them about it and they did a series of tests that came back saying my metabolism is way below the normal levels for someone my age. I had two options, medication, which would have been recommended if I didn't have a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:52 AM
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HAES/FA an elaborate motivation system, but okay. BMI is not an accurate method of telling if someone is healthy. But 22. The second link was a very small study and the only one that goes in depth with how different the diets are, but there are a few others that go over using indigenous diets to lower rates of obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:18 AM
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I am not sensitive to criticism, you just keep saying that because I believe something I must be making excuses for myself, it's annoying. The source I gave you a while ago, explained it. For Native Americans, it depends on what tribe you are a part of, as Blackfoot and other high north tribes the ideal diet has high protein and low carbs. African Americans were put on a South African diet, which is high fiber, low fat and found that African Americans lost weight and such on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 12:28 AM
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It signals your brain to lower your metabolism, actually. The lower the leptin levels get, the slower the metabolism gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 12:08 AM
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I don't avoid "the truth". You keep doing this shit. You understand that I have lost more than 50 lb while having a very slow metabolism right? That I'm the ideal weight for my body type? I understand what people would have to do to lose weight like you want everyone to do and that it's not always an option of others like me. Cutting sugar is actually only a good method of losing weight if you're white, for the most part. Unless you're talking about just processed sugars and not glucose in gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 12:02 AM
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No one is having trouble grasping what you're saying. However, for those who already are overweight, eating low calorie meals causes low leptin levels and as such they do not lose weight nearly enough to ever become skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:55 PM
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A direct result of HAES is that overweight people lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:53 PM
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Yes, they are different. Skinnyfat is a subcategory of skinny, people who don't have to eat right or exercise to stay skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:52 PM
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You'd be surprised, I know of many people who have died because they waited to go to the doctor too long because of how ashamed they were of their bodies. Do you not? Yes, I am sure. I come from a family that has issues with weight, due to both culture and genetics. Out of my overweight relatives, and there are many, only one went to the doctor frequently. And that was because she was a nurse and knew doctors had seen worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:35 PM
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People deal with the "truth" every day, but others don't have to be assholes about it. You have no respect on a base level for people? I honestly think that's really unhealthy. I give everyone the same amount of respect when first interacting with them, how they are as a person alters that respect over time. I try never to judge someone for external factors until I know their story, at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:24 PM
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For some it is nearly impossible to work out enough to burn off even the most basic amount of calories. If people can have neonatal progeroid syndrome and be accepted as having no choice, why is the opposite so hard for some people to grasp?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:20 PM
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I'm not denying science. I'm denying your lack of understanding that not everyone functions like you. Again with applying things that are unrelated to me, to me as a person. That's a really bad habit, you should work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:52 AM
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I'm done, that was a giant wall of text saying the gist of "I think everyone functions like me and the only way someone can become overweight is eating like a pig" and that wanting to be treated with a baseline of respect is somehow immature and childish. I shouldn't have expected more from this sub, but I'm an optimist, unlike you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:37 AM
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Not deflection, getting annoyed at your personal attacks when having a conversation you're trying to get a rise out of me, which is very socially immature. I was using my race as an example because it's the one I know best. And you're the one who was attacking HAES, not me. Sorry that I actually stay on topics I know about. Your question was very vague. What you asked now is a completely different question than what can be inferred from what you said initially.. where does the extra energy come …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:57 AM
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No. I did not. But you literally just used skinny as the same thing as skinnyfat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:41 AM
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Again with applying what I'm saying in a general sense to me as a person. Learn the difference between discussion and claiming something as their own problems. The question you had was vague, sorry that I didn't realize you were being intentionally daft to ""prove""" me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:28 AM
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Based on experience. My area has a very high level of obese adults, I don't know any that even go to their yearly checkups. Also, obese people are shamed for their bodies, it affects self image, thereby making them not want to show it to anyone, even if it's a doctor. There are shows like Embarrassing Bodies for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:13 AM
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I did answer it. The body maintains weight because the lack of leptin slows your metabolism down to a crawl. It keeps as many calories as it can in storage because the body thinks you're starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:04 AM
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That's seriously not true, on both accounts. Every body functions differently, even the basic ways people eats aren't applicable to every single person. Example, Native Americans have trouble with the typical high fat diet that Europeans brought over with them. The best way to fix this is to do the opposite of what white people do when eating healthy. Adding carbs and removing all but 8% fatty foods, even healthy fat, and red meat helps Native Americans lose weight. There is also the fact that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:53 AM
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Actually, I'm just baffled at the level of narcissism required to actually think everyone's body functions exactly the same way as your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:53 AM
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Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:38 AM
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...Did you really just call leptin magic? The layman's term for exhausted leptin levels is "starvation mode" it pulls back the usage of less vital organs to the heart and slows all bodily function. Why do you think it's so bad for you to be anorexic, even if your weight is ideal? The reason they say that is because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty is personal. So yes, people who are obese are beautiful, just not to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:32 AM
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Yeah, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:22 AM
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You don't pay attention to what people say very well. I already told you what I do, personally, if you paid attention you'd understand that you're arguing someone who isn't using a "childish cop-out". If you're a man, you know you can eat less more frequently than a woman can, right? If a woman eats very low amounts of calories daily her leptin levels will be depleted by the end of the week and she won't lose weight, or even maintain weight. The body will start to hoard calories if she doesn't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:22 AM
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If a person goes to the hospital. I'm pretty sure people who are overweight tend to avoid the hospital a lot more than people who are skinny. Doctors don't always notice. I've had plenty of awful doctors who didn't bother to cross check my different medications before putting me on a new one. I'd assume many doctors overlook things quite frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:09 AM
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Did I say "every skinny person on the planet eat what they want"? I said that skinnyfat people can eat what ever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:58 PM
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Yeah, but you ignore the laws of the universe. A few extra calories a day can add up and once someone figures out how to maintain their weight they may have trouble with the amount that would be required to lose weight. Some people have different types of bodies, humans aren't all easy calorie burners. Different races have different requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:52 PM
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Heath at every size is not saying it's healthier to be at the heavier end of the scale. It's about EVERYONE skinnyfat, obese, overweight, normal weight, short, tall... Eating healthy and being active. It says no matter what you should be good to your body and those who are unable to lose weight while leading a healthy lifestyle shouldn't be harassed for their weight. It's about assuming the best of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:49 PM
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Then you have no idea how humans function.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:47 PM
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Do you genuinely think no one on the planet has a slow metabolism? Are you aware how common it is among native people's to have issues with it? Two thirds of us have problems with our metabolism not meeting the demands of the how Europeans eat and our very sedentary lifestyle compared to our lifestyle we had two generations before. I'm not a different species, I'm just not white. You apply you're standards to EVERYONE you interact with? That's beyond narcissistic. I never said anything about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:08 AM
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But when given anonymity you do? You are doing that right now. Aren't you lucky not to react to what people say the way everyone else does. No one says they're perfect. They say "I have the right to be happy with myself".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:54 AM
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If someone is overweight and lives a lifestyle which makes them happy, they should be allowed to be happy without judgement. I am part of the HAES movement, I believe in healthy eating and being active no matter what. If someone does this and yet does not lose weight, I will assume that their doctor knows better than I do why that is. Some people have trouble losing weight. If weight doesn't slowly fall off when eating right and exercising, which it should, it can be very dangerous to force your…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:51 AM
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Self image, is how you view yourself and your abilities, so by extension, how you believe others view you, not how you feel about yourself, which is self esteem. I've always had high self esteem, I love myself how I am, I just wanted to make a change (as I already lead a healthy life style, just didn't actively force my body to lose weight) so I don't have problems later on in life and so I could buy clothing from the stores I like, which are mostly in Asian sizes. However, I also know what it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:34 AM
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I've never hated myself, actually. I just had very low self image. Guess what though, the fact you didn't hate yourself before means that no one should hate themselves when their "before" picture is taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:07 AM
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Wow. You've taken the phrase "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bullshit" way too seriously. Variables exists. Humans are not stock models of each other. Only idiots don't understand humans aren't objects in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:59 AM
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It's a sign of NORMAL emotional development. We are social creatures. How others respond to us changes our outlook. Isolation cases mental problems, and that is what you're suggesting. Just because you think extra weight makes someone unattractive doesn't mean everyone does. I personally find bulky muscles extremely unattractive, but I'm not going to insult a person over it. I'll cheer a person on while they go on their body building journey. Because it's how they feel their best. So, before you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:54 AM
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It feels good to be healthy. Good isn't a physical word. It feels nice (good) to be healthier. You get more energy, you're more active, you can do more things and so on. Losing weight is painful in more ways then one, it doesn't feel that great while it's happening, especially when you're on a very low caloric intake. Telling people that it's okay to love their body, to accept their body (Body positivity is the whole discussion here) to love it because it's the only one they have is the entire p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:34 AM
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You know, off the middle-class-cishet-white-manosphere side of internet I've rarely heard it called Fat Acceptance, unless they're specifically talking about fat people. Usually hear it called body acceptance or body positivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:22 AM
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No, I said not say "exercising feels good". I said eating healthy with exercise makes you feel good. I specifically meant as a person in my example, but what ever. I have a feeling you have never been bullied. You're being very contradictory. "Words only have a good effect if they're insulting you! If people send out positive thoughts and say good things and kindly encourage you that only does bad things and makes people lazy!" I'm done. You can't understand, you refuse to try to understand and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:55 AM
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Did I say the action of exercising makes you feel good? I was being vague for the purpose of getting my point across. Actually, anyone who is overweight does that every single day until the FA movement started rolling around trying to combat the intense and hurtful things people say to one another. The back handed compliments, direct insults overweight people get on a daily basis doesn't count for anything for you? The point of HAES and FA is so people don't get fucking depression and give up be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:27 AM
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I'm 21. I never said I was, I said I have a very low metabolism. I am extremely active.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:19 AM
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That's not what HAES means. You don't get it, I already explained what it means. It does not mean healthy at every size. It means live healthy at every size, it goes: Are you skinny? Yes. Cool! Do you eat healthy and exercise? No. You should eat healthy and exercise because it makes you feel good! Are you skinny? Yes. Do you eat healthy and exercise? Yes. Keep it up! Are you fat? Yes. Cool! Do you eat healthy and exercise? No. You should eat healthy and exercise because it makes you feel good! A…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:05 AM
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I am 5'6. Not that tall but I also have a stockier build. 1200 isn't healthy for anyone with a normal metabolism over 5', especially if they are active. If my metabolism was normal for my height, weight, activity level and age it would be closer to 2200 calories a day. 1200 is including "cheating". If she was lowballing it would be closer to 900.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:48 AM
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You are being kind of daft about what I am saying. A side effect of HAES is that people do lose weight. Losing weight from healthy lifestyle. Or do you think I'm abnormal for the group, because I can assure you I'm pretty damn typical. Self image and self esteem are directly linked. Self image is how you think others perceive you. The whole god damn point of FA on the home front is about understanding others opinions don't matter. You really seem to think that because things don't effect you, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:42 AM
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Maybe you should, skinnyfat literally means a person who does not have to exercise to maintain their weight and can eat what ever they want. skinny-fat When someone is thin and looks great in clothes, but is all flabby underneath and skinny fat A person who is not overweight and have skinny look but still have a high fat percentage and low muscular mass. Usually those people have a low caloric diet, that's why they are skinny, but are not involved in any sports activities or trainings and that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:37 AM
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Skinnyfat is a skinny person. They've just got a lot of fat and low muscle tone for someone their size from lack of exercise and proper diet. Actually, you did imply that anorexia is synonymous with skinny multiple times and then later implied that skinny is healthy. Granted, I missed the noun in your original statement. Not every anorexic is an ex-fat, in fact very few of them are. Your opinion was assuming that I think every anorexic person is that way because they are fatphobic, no where did …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:26 AM
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Do you actually know what health at every size is? Because it literally means, health at every size. Not healthy at every size. It means be healthy and live healthy no matter your weight. Do you go around telling skinnyfat people to change their lifestyle? Skinnyfat people have as many health problems as someone moderately overweight. You seem to mistake treating people shitty for "weight management". It's not about the acceptance of others, do you not understand how self esteem and self image w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 04:31 AM
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You still don't seem to understand that you can live a healthy lifestyle while being overweight. Variables exist. Outliers exist. You assume everyone has the same ability to lose weight as you, which is straight up not true. Some people can't lose weight easily and people being assholes doesn't encourage anyone to do shit. It makes people give up. When I was younger I had trouble with my weight and because of bullying and people doing shit like you are, I gained even more. It wasn't until I disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:40 AM
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If you can apply that logic completely accurately everyone would weigh the same exact amount for their height if they ate the same amount of calories. That isn't true. People metabolize things differently, for example, I know many obese people who eat about 1500 calories a day and don't lose much weight but I also know people who are extremely underweight who eat about 3000 calories a day without gaining while not being very active. You didn't include activity levels and things of that sort. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:07 AM
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That's not accurate. You're applying your own bodies requirements onto other people. That's a very narrow view point that probably stunts your ability to empathize in life. But this is PPD, shouldn't have expected differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:24 AM
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Okay. I was making a point, but sure use them logical fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:49 AM
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Do you realize how few obese people the size required to make that big of a difference in their living standards exist? Very few. There are far more disabled people who have loss of mobility, due to their bad choices (driving drunk, car accidents and such), are you going to say the same thing about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:47 AM
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Losing weight isn't fighting against bullying, that's giving in to the bullying to get it to stop. Acceptance helps people lose weight without causing health and mental problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:44 AM
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150 is actually underweight for most people my height, but k.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:41 AM
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No "woosh". I understood what you said. You're still creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:36 AM
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No, but I'm sure you do since you're pretty obviously a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:35 AM
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There has been many studies that show being shamed for weight causes those with weight problems to gain weight, not lose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:24 AM
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Yeah, Nicki is in no way perfect, her music and imagery used are kind of rudimentary but she is a good person. She shows she cares about her fans and is very kind to everyone she interacts with, minus some flame wars. Her interviews and such show that she's a pretty insightful person. Honestly, I'm a huge fan of HER but I hate her music. She said she thinks of herself as skinny and because of that didn't expect anyone to get upset. But I get what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:18 AM
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Did you even bother to read the study I showed you? The loss of extra years that an obese person loses means that later health problems that relate to age do not happen, which tend to cost far more than the yearly extra of an obese person. They equal out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:12 AM
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Yeah, because that has anything to do with shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:11 AM
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What a giant pile of bullshit. Not putting up with bullying is literally the opposite of having a victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:10 AM
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You used healthy as a synonym for low weight. Which is what I was commenting on. People who are anorexic are NEVER healthy. It compromises the body in many ways and is dangerous. It's never been true that skinny is synonymous with healthy. Skinnyfat exists. 150 lb as of last month, which is the healthiest weight for me and my body type as decided by my dietitian and GP. The FA movement gave me the motivation and self love I needed to be confident and happy with myself and as such helped me lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:09 AM
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Yeah... It really wouldn't be. Yeah, because TRP preaches how women and men are totally exactly the same physically... Having hip fat on women is healthier than not having it, hip fat is a type of fat that is needed during pregnancy and similarly during menstruation. It keeps us from being undernourished. Hip fat in general is the best kind of weight to have, however, men tend to store their weight on their waist and stomach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:01 AM
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Actually, it really is. Discipline doesn't include attacking yourself repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:45 PM
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As I've said before, there will always be people who misunderstand a movement. That is not the purpose of HAES or even FA. The only places I really see that have anyone like you've mentioned is TiA and I've used Tumblr for years and almost all comments like the ones you're explaining were made fun of or called out on the problematic aspects of it. I guess she expected people to use the context of the song to figure out her meaning but failed to realize how broad she was being. Nicki says that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:44 PM
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Studies are only irrelevant when better studies have been done that prove the previous information false. This information still holds true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:36 PM
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You cannot be both, your opinion is moot if you are seriously just equating low weight with being healthy. That's never been true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:30 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:27 PM
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Except they aren't doing anything shameful bar existing. Shaming overweight people has been proven, repeatedly, to cause weight gain so you're being counterproductive to protect you're right to be a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:25 PM
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You're really fucking creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:24 PM
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You basically just said: "I have no justifiable reason why I hate this group of people, but if I dehumanize them then I have no reason to change or feel bad about my behavior."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:23 PM
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Yes, it does. Shaming people is never a motivating factor. You don't understand the movement if you think it doesn't help people lose weight and be healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:20 PM
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HAES =/= healthy no matter what. Health at every size is about making healthy changes, no matter your size. Skinnyfat people don't work out and sometimes are more unhealthy than overweight people, HAES applies to them too. I know many men in the FA movement, I honestly have no clue what you're talking about when you say it's only for women. Granted, heavy set men are not as attacked as women in media, which is the area where they assert that there should be more obese women, who aren't the punch…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:12 PM
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Actually, quite a few overweight people have severe eating disorders that are not binge eating. Being very skinny is not a requirement to have an eating disorder. In fact, the person with the worst case of bulimia I have ever met was 250 lb until they broke the cycle of their eating disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:00 PM
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Fat acceptance doesn't do what you think it does. It's about accepting and loving yourself, despite what other's say. Diminished self esteem and self worth cause depression and weight gain. Fighting past that and loving yourself will cause you to lose weight simply because you don't sooth eat, are not as apathetic or no longer have trouble motivating yourself (a consequence of depression). Fat Acceptance doesn't encourage unhealthy lifestyle at all, all it's saying, to those who pass judgement, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 10:51 PM
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Someone didn't read anything written. Some people who are overweight develop restrictive eating disorders because of bullying, but because they're losing weight people stop bullying them because they are now "healthy" so they continue. Having an eating disorder is far less healthy than having extra weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 10:43 PM
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Shaming obese people has been proven repeatedly to cause weight gain and diminished self esteem, which makes people less likely to make a change, because they think it's a helpless cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 10:36 PM
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That's been proven false.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 10:34 PM
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Well, with weight, the two sides of the scale aren't even. There is a much smaller difference between underweight and the right weight than the right weight and overweight. 20 lb underweight is dangerous but 20 lb overweight makes a chubby person who probably won't have any real health problems caused by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 10:32 PM
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That is all that the Body Acceptance Movement is. It's a movement of self love and the love of others, despite their looks. Loving your body helps you make changes, joining the body acceptance movement, for me, caused me to lose a lot of weight, made me happier, less reserved and more confident. Everything else that some fringe groups spout like "health at every size" and such is caused by combating the fake concern people use to excuse their bullying. "Health at every size" is more about the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 10:25 PM
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Ooookay then. No you didn't but you can pretend all you want. My initial point is that no science can back up your claim and that what you said was not logical. Your point is claiming that I'm incompetent and not doing things properly. Good counter, bro. I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 06:03 PM
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Do you not understand where I got my information in my original comments, I gave you my sources for that. You claim that I was making you figure it out yourself when in reality I was just giving you my original sources. And still, you haven't given a single fucking source. So, are you going to admit there is zero science to back your claim or are you just going to avoid that topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:47 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ. Are you 15? Grow the fuck up. Formatting something into your sentence means writing a fucking sentence with a reference in it. You don't need to fucking give the source in god damn MLA format for it to be cited.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:20 PM
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No, you just don't understand that people don't have to use > to quote something. Formatting it into your actual sentence is the proper way to write a refute, as someone said maybe you should return to Freshmen English class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:09 PM
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Uh... no. On all accounts, just no. I have given you multiple sources, summed them up to you, given you quotes directly from the article, gave you location I got my information from and gave you a functioning link to each source. Do you not know how debating works or do you not understand what you're claiming. Researching my point for me would imply I didn't give you any information. Which, in all reality is what you are making me do, not the other way around. After all, you haven't backed up a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:53 PM
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I made the point, gave you evidence and you still don't believe me. I didn't fucking tell you to google it or what ever you seem to think. I gave you the exact information you needed to figure out how I came to my opinion and in return you don't even bother to properly glance at them, let alone read it. You aren't even opening the links I'm giving you. The other two studies are not done by the CDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:11 PM
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You have no clue what I said you were cherry picking then. I was talking about from the data you received you only took context from one instance. I leave easy reading to simpletons. Exactly why I gave you that article. Hint: Using specific instances where you get your information from was given in the second link, AKA, my citing explicitly while also referencing you to multiple sources that validated the statistics. I'm not going to right you a fucking proper essay when you have yet to back up …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:58 PM
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God damn, you cherry pick. The NBC has all the accumulative information at your disposal from the other sources in an easy to read format. The sources for that are from a fucking scientific journal that was published by the CDC, do you not know what a citation is? The second source I linked because, as I assumed you would, you cherry picked lines to prove yourself right. Not to mention, do you not understand how you gather this type of specific information? You get it through sampling. AKA, rand…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:09 PM
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I didn't say that it was super common in general population, but there are many relationships like that. As I've said elsewhere, I can provide evidence that my local demographic is very much like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:11 AM
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Well, that definitely makes you more logical than most RP men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:09 PM
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Yes, but as a red pill man and seeing the point you're arguing against implies that you likely believe many women lie about their numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:02 PM
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In a way that wasn't really agreeing with her point. Saying she's right only under the pretense that those she was speaking to were lying is still saying she's wrong about her belief in those she's spoken to. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19374216/ns/health-sexual_health/t/new-survey-tells-how-much-sex-were-having/ Here are the studies: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm#numberlifetime http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_23/sr23_031.pdf…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:28 PM
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And why is that? In some of my friend circles having a high number count is a good thing, so why would these women who lie not lie then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:15 PM
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If someone says a high number it must be the truth but saying a low number is always a lie? Don't you see how warped that thought is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 08:50 PM
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Yeah, still not a good reason. And yeah, that is a disagreement unless you think if you're opinion is the right one the other opinion is moot. There is a fuck tun of data that states the average for women is about 6 over a large anonymous survey. There is zero sound research that says "women lie to themselves about how many people they've slept with", so how about you bring some good peer reviewed sources for your bullshit. If that's what you meant to say then you have no idea how your wording c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 08:16 PM
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Yeah... No, they don't. You don't go on dates because you have a victim complex and women don't want to deal with your bullshit, most likely. It's how it is around my area, most of the women here are above average physically and pretty intelligent too but most of the guys are well below average in looks and intelligence. I'll even show you an album of it. Probably will come back and delete that later. (edit: deleted link to album, PM if you want to see it)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 08:02 PM
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That's really not true... I was talking about standards with sex. Women don't fuck every guy they go on a date with, thinking they do is beyond ridiculous. Also, the whole "average guy" pity party shit is stupid. There are so many guys out there who date absolutely beautiful women who are well below average in nearly every aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 07:32 PM
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Using pet names when talking to a stranger, especially during a disagreement, is not endearment. Own up to the fact that you are being condescending to her. It's also not true. Out of all the women I know, I only know of one who frequently seeks out casual sex. All the others fall under the under 10 rule. There is no fucking point in lying. What you're doing is called gaslighting. Also, what?? Saying that people don't lie about our counts is being a misogynist? Stop being so condescendingly idio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 07:29 PM
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Having opportunities =/= taking said opportunities. People have standards and morals, women included. Just because you'd take every opportunity given does not mean all women would do the same. Applying your mentality about issues to others is a fundamentally flawed outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 07:20 PM
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Condescending pet names and claiming women lie to themselves and others about their numbers. Aren't you a ball of joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 07:15 PM
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AWALT doesn't even make sense. Humans are all unique one gender isn't more simple and uniform than the other. Believing everyone is unique is a sign of immaturity? It's a fact of biology. I've never once in my life said "I'm not like other girls" because there isn't anything wrong with other girls. If your partners say that to you it's probably because you make them think that it's the only way that they can prove themselves to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:11 PM
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It's not, those field reports exaggerate and many are straight up fake. And this whole thread is supposed to be about BP supposedly being the ones in denial. Did you really cite Occam's Razor as a way of proving your opinions? The most simple answer is women are people and function in unique manners, some elaborate rules and made up information trying to crack a universal code to women is a much more complex answer. You void your own opinions if you want to go with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 10:12 AM
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I'll look for some evidence then, but later.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 04:33 AM
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I have not seen a single claim on TRP saying that men inherently deserve sex by existing. I see the entitlement often, I don't see how you couldn't, especially if you actually frequent the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 04:14 AM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:44 AM
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I see no problem with expecting sex from your spouse. The problem is that there is only entitlement and no communication. Relationships that have no communication are dead in the water. I bet the wives would try to correct the issue if the husbands would just talk. I guess we will have to disagree about what the word entitlement means because I still see the single life aspect as entitlement towards sex and using shitty behavior to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:43 AM
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Entitlement is by definition the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. If a woman doesn't give you sex? Treat her like shit and revoke your love until she gives it to you. That is entitlement. I've seen this happen more than once when browsing TRP, it's almost always included in the top posts. It's the case with almost every "success" story on TRP. Desperate men who want sex with their wives but don't have the balls to talk about it with their wives are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:13 AM
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The entire premise of TRP is based on entitlement. It's entitlement to sex. If that wasn't the case married men would not be on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:50 AM
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Oh my god, again? No. It does not work. It works, rarely, on a deranged planet where a cycle of abuse and manipulation are acceptable. It teaches people to hate themselves and others and will ruin any possibility of a future and will make you a nasty spiteful person that can never have a true relationship. Turning people into self loathing hateful people with entitlement issues ends with dangerous behavior and no success in dating pools. In fact, I'd be surprised if there has never been a case o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:39 AM
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I have multiple therapists who I've talked about the cycle of abuse with as well as taking many psychology classes relating to abuse specifically. Although, I am curious what makes you think you know so much more than I do about it? What you're talking about isn't the cycle of abuse, but rather the possible destabilization in the cycle caused by physical abuse. I know many people who are in abusive relationships that will likely never leave because of the actual cycle of abuse and how it usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:13 PM
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No but not because of me, he broke up with me after he was detained by police after he put me in the hospital and I haven't seen him since. I bawled my eyes out when it happened even though I knew he was awful to me. If he had stayed simply emotionally abusive instead of snapping I might still be in a relationship with him. This was about 2 years ago and I'm mostly better, mentally, but I still have garbage self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:32 PM
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I'm talking as a victim of abuse. I know from first hand experience what the cycle of abuse is like. It doesn't destabilize the way you think it does. It becomes more violent over time, even if it's just violent words. Abuse does keep people in unhealthy relationships, whether it be because the victim fears for their safety, don't believe they can do better or because they have no self worth left to think they deserve better. That is how abuse works, if you think that isn't that's your problem b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:12 PM
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And you prove my point with this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:24 PM
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Always, especially if it's manipulation and emotional abuse. Break down someone's self esteem and self worth to the point they no longer love themselves and believe no one but the abuser will love them. TRP is a more mild version of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:23 PM
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Please explain that logic, because it's not logic. People who think they are entitled to things that they are not are dangerous, that is what TRP teaches people thereby meaning if it doesn't work TRPers can possibly have a violent outburst if they do not get their way. Still doesn't make it true, but it's still dangerous. Also, TRP isn't just getting women and bumping confidence, don't pretend it is. It also teaches "bio-truths" and AWALT mentalities to name a few, which are straight up false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:12 PM
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...What? What kind of warped logic is that? Something isn't dangerous if it's not true? TRP works because it's abuse, do you not know that breaking down someone's self worth and self esteem does? That doesn't make what is said true, it just means it functions to an extent. Making men who are upset with the world hold that hostility towards women and then telling them to take it out on women as well because they apparently deserve it for made up reasons is just plain misguided at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:05 PM
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Captain America was progressive at his conception, they've just modernized him with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:52 PM
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It doesn't affect just you, which bypasses the whole believing something shouldn't be others business. It's unhealthy and abusive, it's going to have an emotional response because that's cause and effect. What you do is emotional in nature as well, even if you're going to pretend it's "bio-truths". Also, that isn't OP's point, his thought is that the reason people are uncomfortable about it is because it's true. The reality is that people are worried because TRP is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:50 PM
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Did you really just use Captain America as an excuse for your mentalities? CA would hate you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:43 PM
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It's creepy and pathetic more than anything, it's not uncomfort that makes me dislike your "theories", it's how toxic you all are. Because of how toxic it is I have to worry about accidentally dating one of you as many of you display emotional manipulation and abuse through your "success" stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:38 PM
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You don't know what I know, you understand that right? I never implied my knowledge level in anything I have said. But okay. Have you heard of a murder ballet? It's a trope in music, a lot of the most popular country songs are these. They're songs about murdering people, usually a love interest and usually a woman. Cedartown, Georgia Knoxville Girl Miller's Cave Papa meets Mama Here is a nice little study you should read, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 04:41 AM
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So, why did you post this? You obviously don't want to be debated if you're going to take any reasons as to why people don't focus on rap as making up excuses. You should have posted this on TRP if you wanted a circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:01 AM
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And here we have exhibit A on why the blogs you shared were created. I deal with the issue just fine, but focusing on it only is stupid and blind. Also, lol, rap is the only one who does it to that level? Have you never listened to country music? It isn't racist to be aware of problematic aspects of rap, but it shouldn't be the only one people focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 11:12 PM
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Are you genuine in this? Is that really what you took from those? The point of those is that everyone constantly points out the sexism in rap, and use it as a reason to be racist. Those talk about the fact that there is misogyny in many genres, not just rap. It isn't ignoring the problem or claiming it doesn't happen, it's pointing out it's not the only genre that does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:54 PM
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And how did you come to this conclusion because I'm pretty damn sure that most (if not all) feminists think the genre is frequently misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:19 PM
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And this has what to do with what I was saying? Alcohol is illegal for those under 21 because it causes brain deterioration and slows growth of the frontal lobe if their brain hasn't fully developed yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:53 PM
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Okay? A gun doesn't stunt brain development, hopefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:47 PM
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Softness, not just in physicality but in general softer interaction than with men as well. Personality wise, most things are the same, except for that. I mostly hang out with guys but I really would rather hang out with women, the interaction is so much different. I'm use to arguing and friendly banter with my guy friends but even when I interact with women this way it feels more light hearted. With guy friends it's all rough and tumble but with my lady friends there's a lot of love and it just …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:13 PM
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Yep! That's why the legal drinking age in America is 21 rather than 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:11 AM
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That is simple but you're also talking about people who you know for the most part. People who know they can tell you to move your leg without you having a violent reaction. Spreading isn't the issue on it's own, it's combined with other aspects of the situation. Like, you mention the purse thing, I've never experienced or done that but I'm sure some women do because they don't want their purse to get dirty or to forget it. If someone, who is a complete stranger, does something like that I'd tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:48 PM
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Putting a purse in an empty seat is the same as invading the space of a filled seat? Okay. Also, again, wasn't just talking public transit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:08 PM
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Did anyone say it wasn't rude for women to take up extra seats? That doesn't excuse or change how men act when they sit next to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:51 PM
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Okay? And? Did you even read all I wrote, it's not just their legs they do it with, it's elbows too. Not to mention, doing it from the get go and not adjusting for the people around them's comfort. Women's natural posture is with open legs too, not closed. We are taught from childhood not to do that though. Not to mention, do you know what happens when a women has to sit with her arms folded across her chest or in her lap because it's the only place where there is room? It causes severe back pai…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:46 PM
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Yeah, getting a diagnosis is pretty hard, sometimes I don't even recommend getting it but that's if you're planning on moving to Canada or low on money. From your story, you can tell you're neurodivergent, the term refers to having any quirks or traits that are usually signs of a neurological disorder or having the disorder itself, in your case, even if you turn out not have be on the spectrum, you still have a lot of traits related to it, thus making you neurodivergent. Yeah, she has some stuff…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/15 07:39 PM
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First of all, my comment was about you making it seem like feminists think "hello" harassment, when it's catcalling they dislike. Second, that is not what anyone is talking about when they're talking about spreading. From my experience on public transit, most men do not respect women's spacial boundaries. Every single time I have sat next to a man on public transit they spread, they stick their elbows in your space and get aggressive when you call them out on it, even if it's a "please move your…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:09 AM
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Catcalling and spreading are both rude. You did a great job of making it seem irrational but those are microaggressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:28 AM
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That's originally how the term got used. It was a joke said by people heavily into the social justice movement and the anti-crowd took it seriously and in turn made jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:38 AM
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Third wave feminism is about society, not laws. Which is why third wave feminists talk about feminism all the time. The point is to change societies ideas on sex by pointing out the flaws and casual sexism they experience to make others think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:36 AM
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Modern feminism isn't about laws, it's about fighting microaggressions and societal standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:35 AM
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This sounds like you're intentionally just trying to get a ruse out of BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:33 AM
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I'm going to assume you're British, correct me if I'm wrong. I've seen some videos of specialized schooling in England and I can only imagine how awful the area still is around ASD. I'd say at the very least you're neurodivergent. My brother (6) has dyspraxia with fine motor skills, I had it really bad as a kid with crossing over midpoint. It caused me to be heavily ambidextrous and even affected my ability to eat. I had to go to a tun of occupational therapists to function even remotely correct…
/r/ExRedPill23/06/15 04:56 PM
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Thank you! I wonder how badly downvoted you're going to get because of being reasonable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:04 AM
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So, I put my Kik user on a site called Kikfriends because I was curious what kind of people would message me. Guess how many dick pics I got as a first message? I believe the last time I counted it was at 10, out of the 30 people who messaged me that day. Guys aren't shamed the same in regards of their dicks the same way women are with their bodies. You can argue that but it's obvious who is right in this situation since men so easily send pics of them to anyone who will listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:52 AM
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I'm not sure you've read the laws but they state that illicit pictures belong to the people within said pictures, it is pretty nondiscriminatory in that regard, it has nothing to do with man vs woman and it has everything to do with asshole vs victim. Basically, your dick pics you send to your ex are protected as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:44 AM
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I can't give much advice on this but one thing really rubbed me the wrong way that you mentioned a few times. Stop blaming your social skills or lack there of on being on the autistic spectrum, yes, it explains the reason behind the behavior but it really does not excuse it. Now that you are aware that you are autistic you can find resources to help you better understand others. Don't expect free passes for inappropriate behaviors because of being autistic, you need to work on it and figure it o…
/r/ExRedPill23/06/15 08:07 AM
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You are aware of romantic orientations, right? Not every asexual is aromantic. I'm panromantic, I have sex for the people I'm in a committed relationship with. There are also other asexual orientations like demisexual, where sexual attraction cannot be achieved until a strong emotional bond has been formed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 02:50 AM
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Please note this comment, oh wait, you'll say I'm lying, shoot. It's almost like you have the system rigged in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 02:28 AM
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I hope so! This discussion is annoyingly awful. I was using the definition I've heard most of my life, which was from the webster dictionary, you know "an important-sounding word used chiefly to impress laymen" but even with the definition you used insecure still isn't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 12:24 AM
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Or so most women who enjoy sex have experienced first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:46 PM
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Someone has no idea what Japan is actually like. Japanese women expect a car... Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:45 PM
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...What? That is the most idiotic thing you've said yet. Misogynistic views are common place in Japan, women are seen as lesser, that their opinions do not matter as much as a mans. They don't inherit things unless it's directly stated in the will, everything goes to the eldest son and this has only recently (within the last 10 years) started to change. Despite what you think, most people don't misuse the word misogyny. Cool, so I guess all fathers are shitty and don't deserve their children in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:14 PM
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What? Are you serious right now? Japan has all kinds of misogynistic views that are common place, it's known fact. Also, in regards to Japan, work hours range from 10-15 a day, unlike America. Fathers are never at home at all in their culture. Are you going to say that's healthy? The same can be applied to fathers. Applying standards to only one sex is stupid. Men are just as capable of taking care of children as women so why should women be expected to give up their careers for children but not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 06:17 PM
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Oh god, no. That isn't what is happening in Japan. Japan has a very traditional view on family, believing that once a woman becomes a mother she should stop working and be a homemaker. Because of this daycare providers are very few and far between, making it so that once you have a child it forces you to quit your job to take care of them, men are not willing to do this so it is expected of the women of that society to do it. Women in Japan, however, like having careers and do not want to quit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 06:06 PM
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In which I have mentioned before, that "study" was done by a conservative group who believe women should be chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:59 PM
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You said I was defending sluts because I was one. But yeah, on circular logic planet, there was no reason what so ever. I'm done talking to you now, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:36 PM
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Wow, asexuality is now on par with otherkin. Are you going to say all trans people are special snowflakes too? Or maybe bi people instead? My flair states my gender, smarts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:24 PM
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I shut down your entire point and so you try to play it off by getting the last word, topkek.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:18 PM
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I've only had two sexual partners in my life, still with one. I'm asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:59 PM
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It's used when insecurity shows through, mostly. Someone thinks their significant other will cheat on them because they enjoy sex or had many sexual partners before their current relationship, basically shouting "I'm not certain I can satisfy a sexual partner well enough for them not to seek satisfaction from someone else" or "I want a virgin or inexperienced sexual partner so that they aren't aware of my inadequate skill" or maybe even "I don't want her to have penises to compare my penis too" …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:57 PM
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What does that even mean? It's way more than 1% of the population, I know at least 20 people, in my not even 200 person community who follow that thought process. Also, the point of that was to show how god damn ridiculous the statement above was.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:50 PM
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I agree, but a lot of women are called sluts simply for finding enjoyment in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:49 PM
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So... Why are you replying to my comment with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:48 PM
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Wow, the contradiction is strong in this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:47 PM
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If you're quoting that holy red pill article that's always linked, it's from a conservative website and is complete bullshit to try and keep women chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:46 PM
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...Really? Insecure, a commonly used word in every day language, is a buzzword in your eyes? Oookay. Having sex has nothing to do with being unfaithful. Nothing, what so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:53 AM
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You took the condom off and took the blind word from someone but they are the problem? Anonymous sex should never NOT involve a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:47 AM
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Yeah, let the insecurity show more, please. Liking sex doesn't make someone unfaithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:42 AM
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"That gay couple is ruining MY MARRIAGE!!!" Is basically along the same lines as what you said. It doesn't affect you or your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:04 AM
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Mhm...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 02:28 AM
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Really, I'm narrow minded for not judging people by looks and instead by character? Huh. I really hope you're a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:24 PM
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...Okay? Doesn't change the fact it's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:13 PM
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What moral horseshit? The fact that standards are stupid when only applied to looks? I'm not going to fucking date an asshole because he's pretty. I hate people like that and as such I'd punch someone like that in the gut before I ever even thought of them in a romantic light.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:46 PM
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I know for a fact I have never dressed up for romantic prospects. I've been with the same guy for a year, known him for much longer and he knows what I look like without being dolled up. I dress up 100% for my own sense of gradification of wearing things I find cute. He and I have extremely different taste in fashion, I wouldn't wear a single thing I owned if I was doing it for him. Look up Kawaii Culture, women all over the world are reclaiming femininity in a manner meant to make it unappealin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:43 PM
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Putting foundation on could be seen as a auto pilot action but that is just about it. Everything else requires thought. God damn, I can't imagine how awful make up would look if everyone did it on auto pilot, it's not a repetitive action like you are thinking it is. Every day is different, even if it's the same style of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:12 PM
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You're the one that didn't realize I was just copy and pasting what you said with a few changed words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:59 PM
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Well I'm glad I'm not so misunderstood in life that my point was completely lost on everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:58 PM
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I was commenting on something, not everything. If you read my other comments you'd realize I don't think makeup doesn't make someone more attractive, but I think it's stupid to judge women on if they don't wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:20 AM
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Beside my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:05 AM
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I didn't virgin shame...?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:36 AM
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Pretending like women only do things to climb a made up social ladder is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:54 AM
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How about instead of that guys tell other guys that make up has nothing to do with beauty and everything to do with individual style. Shitting on people who wear make up is just as bad as shitting on those who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:53 AM
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Might want to stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:33 AM
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Yep, you're right I've only ever been in a relationship once. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:31 AM
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Standards have nothing to do with attraction on a physical level, attraction is chemical you have very little control on who you are attracted to. Inclination =/= absolute truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:16 AM
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Not really true from my experience, attractive parents I've seen have pretty unattractive kids. There is some science that discredits the idea that attractive people = better genes, it's about attraction, attraction is chemical, that's why deep kissing is a thing. Here is some other stuff: X X X X
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:38 PM
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You don't do activities that take hours and decision making skills while on auto-pilot, if you do, you might want to get that checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:13 PM
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A) Who said they did? B) Am woman, am aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:11 PM
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Because I was talking about standards that only apply to looks, and those are the only standards that are inherently stupid in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:03 PM
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It sounds like something an ugly entitled woman would say. What kind of horseshit TERPer statement is that? It sounds like something an entitled man child would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:50 PM
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I honestly don't. I do have to admit that my boyfriend does come from a renowned family and use to have a lot of money but it wasn't anything I was attracted to him for. In fact, I didn't even know about it until a year into our relationship when I met his family. Before that, I never dated anyone with much money or status. I really don't care money, never had it growing up and it's never had any influence on my life. I want to be able to get by in life but that is all that matters to me. The sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:34 PM
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Well, I guess you do, unless you're trying to distract women away from a horrendous maw.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:02 PM
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Standards are stupid if they only apply to looks, standards should matter more towards personality. And you still quote manage when you now know it was sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:50 PM
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Sorry my choice of words offended you? Manage was a semi-sarcastic word choice relating back to the bullshit expectation of all women to wear makeup. Really? Makeup, as in powders and liquids put on someone's face is a "standard" for you? You understand what that word means right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:37 PM
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I focus on physical appearance because everything else depends who you are interacting with. What I was talking about things almost always required. I know I don't give a shit about societal status and money. Only reason I would is because I'm broke and they live far away, which if they can't afford to help me visit them or visit themselves would make for a strained relationship at best. I mention hair for men. Shaven head takes 10-20 minutes every few weeks. Hair maintenance is also much cheape…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:15 PM
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My mom has been married for 13 years, she never wore makeup with him but I have never seen her go out in public without makeup even though she's in her 40's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:58 PM
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Not wearing makeup is not lazy. If a guy can go around without wearing makeup without being considered lazy a woman should be held to the same standard. Good makeup takes hours to do and then dressing and hair too? Hours they could be doing other things instead. It's really not equal... For looks, guys need a trimmed beard or shaven face, tidied hair, nice clothes and a few things give or take depending on the person they're going to interact with. A woman has to do her hair, makeup, shave (or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:49 PM
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You aren't arguing a point, you are claiming all or nearly all women don't know the reason behind their actions. But you are saying you do, even though you are an outsider looking in. You can discuss or argue a point without doing this, but it seems as though you don't know how. Here is a few guidelines to arguing a point as an outsider: Admitting it's an opinion and not fact Don't pretend your opinions are fact Don't state your opinions as fact Don't tell someone who is a member of the group ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:31 PM
1

Without make up, most women feel insecure and that ties directly into self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:21 PM
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You don't wear make up yet you expect a girl to wear make up to go anywhere. Equal standards, they do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:20 PM
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Or perhaps I know women who don't need the reason behind their actions mansplained to know why they do it. I don't know if you know this but women do have brains and most are aware of why they do it. It's, this part is super shocking, because they like how they look with it on. It is not genetic to wear makeup. Make up was not used by the common people until 50 years ago. It is culturally relevant to sell products. If media doesn't constantly degrade women they think they will lose their brand. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:06 PM
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Yep, love the sarcasm, it's amusing because that is actually why a lot of people do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:39 PM
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That is one of the absolute worst analogies I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:35 PM
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People do it for confidence, confidence is for yourself even if the reason why it gives you confidence is from no longer getting comments about your looks without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:34 PM
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I said every woman on the planet does it for the same reason I stated, huh, guess I'm not aware of what I type anymore. I said all the girls I know do it for themselves. "Little girls" still internalize what media teaches them, they are still realizing themselves and are told that without make up they are worthless. So they wear it, for their own confidence. A woman 6 years into a marriage would hopefully have finally managed to overcome that and have proper self esteem. Again, I have never said…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:06 PM
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All the girls I know who wear make up do it for themselves, either for self confidence or because they like make up. Not because they want to bang hotter guys. 99% sure if a guy only likes a girl because of how she looks with makeup it'll be a shitty relationshitp.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 03:13 PM
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Who gives a shit if you date a 6 or an 8? I've never worn makeup a day in my life and managed to find a guy I love and adore who feels the same towards me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:32 PM
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If you do get into a relationship please, for the love of god, don't red pill her. The reason why TRP works is because it makes you seem extremely confident which girls like, but honestly you can permanently damage a girl if you treat her how some of TRP says to treat women. I'm sure you are a logical guy and would love your girlfriend but if you neg her or anything like that you could ruin her self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 06:24 PM
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You live in a fantasy world that does not exist. Reality is what the majority of the world sees, I know you redpillers eat up the Matrix but seriously, spit out the pill in this case, the world you're talking about doesn't exist except for in your eyes and yours alone. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:06 AM
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Giving up because you realize it's impossible to rationalize with the insane is not the same as admitting that you were wrong, which I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 02:40 AM
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You know what, I'm done. You're an idiot. There is a great question being answered over on /r/AskWomen about dating redpillers. You should go read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:51 AM
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Haha, true. Maybe it came with some expensive jewelry or of that nature to really rock her world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:05 AM
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That isn't true, fuck if that's true then women everywhere would be dating models, but I see ugly ass shitty old men with gorgeous young smart girls all the fucking time because what you are saying is not true. My fucking 50 year old white trash, meth head cousin just married a beautiful 19 year old girl. He doesn't even fucking have teeth. No emotional abuse is not "failing to provide". Fuck off with your bullshit. Emotional abuse is being told day in day out that you're not worth love and affe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 12:52 AM
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Nah, it's just too much bullshit to address. I'm pretty I'm seeing why. You know that abuse isn't just physical right? If you've always acted like you are now, you sure could be an abusive shitty boyfriend, I know I wouldn't be surprised. It happened with all of your exes? Yeah... If everyone says you're doing something wrong it's probably not everyone else that's the problem. You claim women don't take accountability but honestly this all sounds like you shifting blame for your own behaviors. R…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 12:17 AM
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You are an idiot if you aren't a troll. Yeah, you have got to be a troll to be this stupid. I lied about abuse I faced on the internet for sympathy points on an account on Reddit that all of my friends know! I sure hope that they don't call me out on my big fat lies when they were there for all of it! They know I lied about my relationship problems, it's not like they actually saw him hit me! It's not like I currently have a civil suit against him trying to get a restraining order since he still…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 10:44 PM
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You... You are aware women enjoy sex as well, right? We don't just hold it over the heads of our significant others as a tool to get them to do what we want. I don't see doing something mutual as work, but yeah thanks forcing words down someone else's throat. I think you may live on a different planet. Never in my life have I been in a relationship or met a man like you claim all men are trained to treat women. Ever. In fact, most the men in my life have walked all over their female counterpart.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:38 PM
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If I did that with my boyfriend he would break up with me for taking him for granted and I wouldn't judge him for it. Please tell me, a woman you have never met, how I don't share the load? Please, enlighten me because I bet you anything that I (and most women) put more effort in than you ever think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 08:54 PM
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I'm honestly kind of baffled at how you keep saying things that aren't accurate to life. Are you sure you've talked to women, because it still seems like you haven't. Every relationship I have ever been in had me doing far more work and putting far more effort than my partner until the one I'm currently in, which we share the load.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 08:39 PM
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Because it isn't true. It's like you've never actually talked to a woman in your life before. Women are not all superficial people who don't want long lasting relationships. Acting like they are is idiotic. Women are, this may shock you, individuals with different personalities, we all have different priorities and wants in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 08:09 PM
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Are you really unaware of how stupid that sounds? None of that is even remotely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:24 PM
5

Guess I need to go tell my boyfriend that, he'll be shocked that I don't give a fuck about him!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:50 PM
2

It's a wonder you saw the light then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:25 PM
1

Much better! Who thought of that wonderful analogy!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:58 PM
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You do realize I'm not the one who talked about "internet tough guys"... Right? If someone talked about slapping, yeah, I wouldn't give a shit, what is with groups generalizing and making sweeping accusations as though every single person of the opposing group is part of a giant hive mind. It's stupid and childish. TRP claims that women are "the oldest children in the house" but damn, you are a honest to god manchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:55 PM
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When I am listening to Bohemian Rhapsody while being depressed and suicidal I don't visit a Queen concert when I'm better. Understatement of the year of what a trigger is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:48 PM
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You honestly sound like an egomaniac. You didn't see through shit, you just sound like an asshole. I'm pretty sure being treated like a human instead of a puzzle to be solved isn't asking much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:30 PM
2

Maybe my family is weird but being slapped upside the head or spanked is a sign of affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:31 AM
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Well, I was exaggerating, he's 6 I wouldn't slap a 6 year old. But after being raised by a breadwinning mother and a stay at home father I would sure as fuck hope he had some common sense to know women aren't inferior when he's older. Which is why I said what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:13 AM
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Yeah, obviously you didn't read any of it or just didn't understand what I was implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:08 AM
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Did you only read the first half of the sentence of what I wrote..?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:35 AM
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Yeah... No. I was talking specifically about the misogynistic bullshit where some RP talk about how inferior women are. I didn't say all of TRP, I said some of what I saw there. But good job making sweeping generalizations when I was specifically avoiding that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:32 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 02:14 AM
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"Poor self control" Nah, if my brother said any of that misogynistic toxic bullshit I was thinking of when I wrote that after being raised almost exclusively by hardworking women, he would deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 02:00 AM
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If my little brother said some of the shit I've seen on TRP I'd probably slap him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 11:21 PM
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I still think it's unfair to judge an entire group based on a select few. Yeah, people sometimes are completely misinformed about the topic and use "trigger warnings" when they really mean content warning, that's going to happen. The only place where I've seen people say they're triggered to shut other people up is on places like TiA and younger kids on Tumblr who just digest everything they read as fact, even obvious jokes. Have you actually witnessed someone saying something along that line? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 10:26 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 10:21 PM
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If you're talking about places like Tumblr, people don't expect others to already know the trigger, they ask if they could put that in beforehand and if a person says no, they unfollow. I mean, some throw a fit if the other person doesn't do it, but no one expects others to know the trigger ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:56 PM
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Content warnings have existed for a long time, they're a much more vague version of a trigger warning. Sure, people go too far, that's going to happen with every group of people. But you shouldn't condemn everyone for one small fraction of a group. Yeah, people with trauma are emotionally unstable, that is what trauma does. But they are not mentally weak and that does not make them children. I'm sorry but every person I have ever met that had prominent trauma to the point they ask others to avoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:48 PM
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Trigger warnings don't censor you, it just gives a person a warning beforehand, time to mentally prepare themselves. I get what you're saying, I don't ask for them because I don't want to hinder anyone else but I can see why someone would. Being triggered is absolutely awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:25 PM
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But you have no way of knowing who is hijacking the word and who is not from a glance. It hurts people like me, who have dealt with a fair amount of trauma in their pasts, because we are assumed to be part of that mass. Assume the best of individuals until given evidence they don't deserve it, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:06 PM
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Okay, I don't mind most of what you said, to each their own, but how you treated triggers was honestly really inconsiderate. Triggers are things that remind people of their past trauma. They relate to the situation or people who caused the trauma and cause flashbacks. You can't control what a trigger is and how it will affect someone. For example, someone loses their family and nearly died in a tornado, before the tornado hit, this person was listening to Joe Lajoie's Show me your Genitals, well…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:51 PM
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