foerthan Archive

Upvotes	Title	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
43	r/Pics post about infant circumcision; majority response is "stop whining"	foerthan	/r/MensRights	17/03/12 12:25 AM
9	Male sex drive is at the root of most conflict in the world, from football violence to world wars, scientists have claimed. (x-post r/News)	foerthan	/r/MensRights	22/01/12 10:06 PM
8	Scary Numbers	foerthan	/r/MensRights	13/03/12 05:40 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
0	Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible. You might not consider it right, but most people are going to consider a video that shows a random person accosting another person on the street, pushing them against a wall while brandishing a knife, and then brutally violating that person as reasonable proof of a rape, especially when the supposed victim testifies that it was rape and there's no contest to that claim but "nuh-uh". You're not doing anything but mincing words. There has to be some standard for proving lack of consent in the lega…	/r/MensRights	11/04/12 06:48 PM
0	Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible. So you're saying that there is no action that qualifies as rape? Yeah, I think I'm done here.	/r/MensRights	11/04/12 06:01 PM
0	Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible. The burden of proof is on the prosecution. The defendant doesn't need to prove anything. That means it is up to the prosecution to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that she didn't consent. You are attempting to shift the burden of proof to the accused. That's not how the law works. You writing this shows yet again that you either misunderstood or have poor reading comprehension.	/r/MensRights	11/04/12 05:47 PM
0	Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible. The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused. The prosecution must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the accuser did not consent. Either you misunderstood what I was saying or your reading comprehension is very poor. Person A performed an action that when viewed by any reasonable person would be declared rape. There is video evidence of this action. The victim, person B, also maintains that this was rape. Person A went into the trial assumed innocent, but will unquestionably be fo…	/r/MensRights	11/04/12 04:36 PM
0	Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible. What if she has a history of consenting to such things? She? I don't see how this is exclusive to women. Beyond that, consent to... what, exactly? Rape-play? Fucking their passed out body? It boils down to this: You. Are. Not. Proving. Your. Innocence. The prosecution needs to show that the act was non-consensual. Due to the nature of consent, the alleged victim's word, if backed up with evidence, is the only possible proof of that. Whether or not the victim had consented to rape-play before has…	/r/MensRights	11/04/12 02:57 PM
3	Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible. Um... no. "Clear and Convincing evidence" is not the proper standard. The standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt". I wasn't using legal speak, but rather the terms that a layman would use. Thanks though. Due to those laws, there is no way to remove a reasonable doubt that the accused did not commit the crime. It is reasonable to believe that there is evidence which could exonerate the accursed which the accused was unable to present due to these laws. This is laughable. Yes, there are protection…	/r/MensRights	11/04/12 02:03 PM
7	Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible. Take the rape of a woman hype out of it and replace it with another crime and swap the genders. Would nullifying in protest to corruption and civil rights violations still be "horrible"? Sexism is probably clouding your judgement. What civil rights violations are you talking about in rape cases, exactly? That the accused are often convicted on substandard evidence? If that's the case, then you vote not guilty. It is not just, however, to vote not guilty or to nullify, especially in the case of v…	/r/MensRights	11/04/12 10:01 AM
6	I was circumcised as a baby (obviously without my consent) and I've never missed having a foreskin. What's the big deal? We're happy that you don't have a problem being circumcised. No, really, we are. But that doesn't change the fact that performing permanent cosmetic surgery with no clear health benefits whatsoever on an infant (obviously without their consent) is morally corrupt and should be condemned.	/r/MensRights	31/03/12 08:12 PM
28	The aunt of a teenager claims police are not taking her nephew's rape seriously because a woman is accused of the crime First: The origin of the discrimination is irrelevant to fixing it. It doesn't matter if it was caused by men, by women, by cthulu, or whatever. If the end result is discrimination or oppression, it's everyone's moral responsibility to see it corrected. Fixing discrimination is not a blame game. Imagine for a moment that FGM was come up with by women and essentially enforced by women. Would you really say "Hey, why should MEN be concerned about this issue? I mean, it's women's fault in the first…	/r/MensRights	29/03/12 01:22 PM
2	prostitution should be decriminalized (or even legalized) but this subreddit seems to be for women being shammed for the exact same thing. Please stop saying this. I am and have been a regular visitor of this subreddit for nearly a year. I don't want women or men to be shamed based on the sex (or lack thereof) that they're having. I do support people doing whatever they want with their own bodies.	/r/MensRights	25/03/12 07:51 PM
7	prostitution should be decriminalized (or even legalized) Prostitution should certainly be legal. It's that person's choice whether or not they are willing to sell sex; the government shouldn't be telling them that they can't. That's not to say that there should be no safeguards against exploitation and sex slavery of course, but I think it's silly to attempt to make the case that all prostitution is exploitive. Making it legal would make conditions safer for everyone involved, especially the sex workers themselves.	/r/MensRights	25/03/12 07:43 PM
1	X-Post: Some questionable attitudes on display in this discussion thread of male rape in Zimbabwe Wow, this thread is utterly disgusting. Male here. Female on male rape is kind of funny. . They should be happy they got laid. . roving gangs of females raping men is pretty entertaining to me . Considering how common rape is in that area it is at least refreshing to see women violating men. Then we get down to shaming tactics: Yes. Female on male rape is a huge world problem. We need an international convention or something. . People in the history of the world that have gotten so emotional abo…	/r/MensRights	23/03/12 05:26 AM
3	does rape require penetration? is all unwanted sexual contact defineable as rape? I'd normally say that rape requires unwanted penetration (or envelopment) of some sort, but that includes any sort of penetration (fingers, objects, whatever). That being said, if a person is strapped to a wall and then stimulated (but not penetrated) against his/her will, do we really want to put that in the same category as slapping someone on the ass? There's no penetration, but I would say that the situation is also rape. So maybe I should say I would classify rape as forced penetration/enve…	/r/MensRights	20/03/12 12:23 AM
5	[Revision 1] A flowchart illustrating the process of how legal parental relationships should be handled. Details in comments! Please offer critique. It looks like you made a lot of improvements over the previous chart. It looks really good, good job!	/r/MensRights	18/03/12 09:32 PM
5	r/Pics post about infant circumcision; majority response is "stop whining" TEEHEE I'll just ignore all the ways they're similar, such as being non-consensual cosmetic surgery of a child, both with a history of being intended to curb sexual desires and habits, with no medically relevant purpose. I'll also ignore that FGM that is analogous or less serious than MGM is not tolerated, and instead focus on oppression olympics TEEHEE	/r/MensRights	17/03/12 07:30 AM
20	r/Pics post about infant circumcision; majority response is "stop whining" Here's a choice quote: I find the hubbub to be a first world problem and frankly we have and endless supply of real problems to deal with. The Men who run around asking for attention on this issue really need something productive to do instead of whining on this non issue.	/r/MensRights	17/03/12 12:26 AM
4	Scary Numbers Another article about it from the slate the state located approximately 800 biological samples of DNA that could be tested. Of those, only 214 were in sufficient condition to yield accurate results. Among these, more than 70 people—one commonly cited figure is 79—appear to have been excluded as the perpetrators of a crime. . the reality that of the first 250 people exonerated by DNA testing, a whopping 76 percent were misidentified by eyewitnesses.	/r/MensRights	13/03/12 05:47 PM
5	Do you think the old phrase "a man should never hit a woman" has any truth? I am against violence in general. That being said, if somebody attacks you, it's only right that you defend yourself, regardless of the gender/sex of the attacker. I always laugh when people say that you shouldn't hit a physically weaker person, since they "pose no real harm to you". The advent of guns was a great equalizer, not to mention that knives are equally if not more deadly in close quarters. Even without a weapon, it's exceptionally easy to seriously injure another person if you know wh…	/r/MensRights	08/03/12 12:25 AM
5	What does r/mensrights think about the askreddit thread in which a 12 year old boy beats up two girls who were bullying him? some forms of bullying are worse than others And all of it is aggression against another person, which is wrong. You don't even have the ability to get away from it, considering you're stuck in the same building with them. I'm sure that alone doesn't create a pandemic of suicides The articles were talking about the link between suicide and bullying, not between suicide rate and bullying. Those are two entirely different things. The girls got what they had coming to them. I personally don't think…	/r/MensRights	05/03/12 04:14 PM
7	What does r/mensrights think about the askreddit thread in which a 12 year old boy beats up two girls who were bullying him? Looking at these things in retrospect, they aren't a big deal. Uhh... Kids who are bullied are 2 to 9 times more likely to commit suicide than those who aren't. It certainly is a big fucking deal. Although the sample size is fairly small, in Britain, up to 50% of the suicides in children aged 10-14 were linked to bullying.	/r/MensRights	05/03/12 03:51 PM
1	The real problem with affirmative action for women is that it is demeaning to WOMEN?? This is just silly. Other people are commenting saying that this doesn't happen, but really, the idea of whether it happens or not is inconsequential to the morality of affirmative action. Can you prove that every single male in this math competition bullied women in order to get a spot? No? Then how can you justify using the fact that some males may have done this to kick out someone who never did? You're punishing innocent people in an attempt to counterbalance the punishing of innocent people…	/r/MensRights	05/02/12 04:25 AM
2	Male sex drive is at the root of most conflict in the world, from football violence to world wars, scientists have claimed. (x-post r/News) And the source paper for those who want to look at this crap: http://www.professormarkvanvugt.com/files/TheMaleWarriorHypothesis.pdf	/r/MensRights	22/01/12 10:07 PM
7	Homeless, college level, with a precarious job. The boss earns six figures. Was employed as a sexual favor. Only this time is a man. And she laughs at him. Isn't this what women suffered 60 years ago and now nobody cares about? I've never heard of a man sleeping with someone to get a job. In a way, that's a minor victory in itself. Just wow. So if a woman sleeps with someone to get a job, it's degrading and tantamount to rape (because of power structures and the "urgent" nature of needing a job). If a man does it, it's awesome. How do people not see the double standard in this?	/r/MensRights	25/12/11 07:05 PM
2	Male cheerleader gets his team disqualified because he's..... a boy. I and the feminists with whom I agree define patriarchy as a system which benefits patriarchs (not just men but powerful and wealthy old men) at the expense of everyone else (including unpowerful unwealthy unold men), not as a system which benefits men at the expense of women). This is essentially the definition of an oligarchy, for what it's worth. I agree with you wholeheartedly on that, although I'm not the person you're having this conversation with. The problem I have with the word "Patriar…	/r/MensRights	18/12/11 07:18 PM
47	Male cheerleader gets his team disqualified because he's..... a boy. regulation that stipulates that girls can compete on boys teams in sports where a girls team is not offered, but boys are not allowed to compete on any girls squads in competitive sports where a male option is not offered. The fuck? No, seriously, what the fuck?	/r/MensRights	18/12/11 12:27 AM
1	Should the age of sexual consent be lowered to be fair to men? You are obviously a troll. That being said... What are you going on about, exactly? Yes, it is human nature to be sexually attracted to people who are going through/have been through puberty. Puberty is literally sexual maturation. That goes for both men and women. I'm confused on how (although not why) you're making the jump to say that all men are itching to have sex with 7 year olds, or how age of consent laws are in any way a men's rights issue. Age of consent laws apply equally to men and w…	/r/MensRights	17/12/11 01:25 AM
8	Infant male circumcision is genital mutilation Mutilation: "an injury that causes disfigurement or that deprives you of a limb or other important body part." Disfigurement: "an appearance that has been spoiled or is misshapen" Misshapen: "Not having the normal or natural shape or form"	/r/MensRights	06/12/11 11:33 PM
3	What is your position on abortion? Abortion - referring to terminating a pregnancy - is not an MR issue. There is no way to support a man having a choice in abortion that does not subjugate the woman. That is why a "financial abortion" is what MR attempts to argue for. It leads to (effectively) the same result, but without subjugating another human being. Beyond that, abortion is a moral issue. I'm personally opposed to anything that frames it as a "woman's choice", as it's deceitful. The big argument about a woman's choice has g…	/r/MensRights	27/11/11 09:21 PM
3	Female rape victim told "Boys will be boys." What do MRAs think of this? Is it not male priviledge? I agree in a sense, but the reality is that a lot of times rape just can't be proven or disproven. And so... we should just assume the accused party is guilty? Why should rape be different than any other crime? As tragic as it is when it happens, if you can't prove the crime happened, then it's unjust to convict the accused. And sometimes young girls are shamed out of accusing someone of rape (even when it's true), so when they recant their statements out of fear they are degraded and called lia…	/r/MensRights	19/11/11 01:29 PM
81	Now they claim the SAT is favoring men If men do better, then it's because it's discriminatory to women. If women do better, it's because women are smarter than men. Don't you know this already? (/s)	/r/MensRights	12/11/11 04:02 PM
3	Family Pictures of Nude Baby Bath: Ruinous Child Porn Prosecution not willing to bulge Freudian slip?	/r/MensRights	31/10/11 03:54 AM
5	I don't see a problem, The comment you replied to ("feminists are the devil, it is agreed") is from one of our local trolls. It looked like you didn't realize that.	/r/MensRights	19/10/11 11:48 AM
3	I don't see a problem, You'll have to excuse that, we have a rather rabid infestation of trolls here.	/r/MensRights	19/10/11 10:53 AM
2	/r/MensRights, I would like to ask you a question or two. 1) How would you define Rape Culture? A culture in which rape is common and either supported (directly or indirectly) by the population, or in which the population turns a blind eye to rape. May also include victim blaming. 2) Do you think Rape Culture exists in America? No. The incidence of rape is low, even if you blindly accept underreporting (which you shouldn't). Furthermore, we have some of the most strict laws in regards to rape cases. 3) Do you think that America places much of the blame…	/r/MensRights	19/10/11 02:23 AM
1	"The Straight White Men’s Rights Movement would be a more accurate name for their movement, as they never acknowledge gay men’s rights or issues faced by men of color." Discrimination because of being male -> Men's Rights issue Discrimination because of skin color -> Racial issue Discrimination because of sexual orientation -> LBGT issue We tend to focus on the first one, which, incidentally, affects all males in the other two groups as well. The other two groups are only tangentially related. Yes, they affect men, but not because they are men, but because of their race or sexuality. Working with those groups when applicable is great, and supporting those group…	/r/MensRights	13/10/11 07:22 PM
1	Why do posts about Male Genital Mutilation in this subreddit have such low ratings? It's not mutilation. This is like the pro choice vs pro life framing of abortion. Sure you can use framing to try make your point stronger but its a very weak rhetorical device. Definition of mutilation: "an injury that causes disfigurement or that deprives you of a limb or other important body part". I'm pretty sure that ripping off the foreskin fits the whole "causes disfigurement" part. You are talking about using the law to push your own moral views on others. The law does this already, and …	/r/MensRights	12/10/11 08:38 AM
6	Why do posts about Male Genital Mutilation in this subreddit have such low ratings? That's just a troll, don't take him/her seriously.	/r/MensRights	12/10/11 08:21 AM
5	I need help explaining why circumcision is bad... The single best "reason" that circumcision is wrong is that it's a permanently disfiguring operation performed upon a child who is unable to consent. That alone should be enough for anyone who actually claims to care about human rights. That aside, in the US, roughly .6% of the population is infected with HIV (roughly 1.2 million people Here) . Even if we assume 20 lifetime partners (the lifetime average is 7), and 100% infection rate (it's not), your chance of being infected by a completely ran…	/r/MensRights	11/10/11 05:08 AM
7	Default setting: Femicide [A feminist speaking about men] Hopefully he won’t be sentenced to a psychiatric hospital but to regular prison. Maybe some good old ‘inside justice’ will be carried out. Encouraging rape, awesome. Because it’s all about HIS pain. And he’s not a monster. He’s not psychotic. He’s a man. Sounds exactly like what happens when it's the women who does this! A man who is “disordered” is coddled and given special treatment. A woman who is “disordered” is treated like she is a failure, worthless, and given horrible treatment. . . . WT…	/r/MensRights	01/10/11 04:55 PM
10	Jezebel's article on a campus Men’s Rights Group Three comments in and there's already a "feminism is a solution to men's problems" and an "everything other than women studies is men studies" post. I'm getting really sick of reading these lines over and over and over again.	/r/MensRights	30/09/11 05:07 AM
5	One Third of Parliamentary Seats are reserved for Womyn - a blow to DEMOCRACY Feminists (mostly radicals, but even the general base occasionally) use "womyn" over "women" so that "men" isn't a part of their gendered noun. I assume he's just playing off of that.	/r/MensRights	18/09/11 07:17 PM
3	What's the difference? (between feminism and the MRM) Its called patriarchy. ... This isn't a gender thing it's a class thing. When you contradict yourself in a single paragraph, you tend not to get taken very seriously.	/r/MensRights	17/09/11 11:06 AM
3	‎"86% of survivors of sexual abuse were not believed when they said the abuser was a woman." A feminists response? "Bullshit!" Thank you.	/r/MensRights	16/09/11 11:37 AM
5	‎"86% of survivors of sexual abuse were not believed when they said the abuser was a woman." A feminists response? "Bullshit!" Can you post a screen cap? I don't have a facebook account or any intention of making one.	/r/MensRights	16/09/11 07:09 AM
2	Outsourcing Porn I read it through to the end, but I can't say I was too impressed. The entire article is basically implying that wanting someone to "cater to your sexual desires" is something to be concerned about, and can be tied to exploitation. To me, the entire LiveJasmine point was just entirely off base in the first place. Is it really hard to believe that people find having a live person, who isn't a porn star, and is willing to cater to your fantasies simply more exciting than watching some random porn …	/r/MensRights	14/09/11 07:59 AM
3	Is this reddit about mens' rights, or is this about anti-women? I respectfully disagree. First, not everyone who comes to r/MR is a subscriber or a member of the men's rights community. While probably not the best things to be on the front page for these people (partly because I think statistics would be the best thing to see, but I also think it's easy to misconstrue such threads), if those people read the article and comments without the preconceived notion that it's women-hating, it's productive. Secondly, they help spark discussion and debate which is he…	/r/MensRights	12/09/11 09:56 PM
3	Is this reddit about mens' rights, or is this about anti-women? You should take a basic course on logic. There is nothing at all inherent about a woman's crime and a man's rights. In your mind, there might be, but you're not a logical person. I love how you continue to misrepresent what I've said while accusing ME of being illogical. Yes, there's nothing "inherent" in a woman's crime that makes it relate to men's rights. But when that crime (and/or the punishment) is an example of the court system's bias against men, serves to help dispel commonly held myths…	/r/MensRights	12/09/11 09:11 PM
4	Is this reddit about mens' rights, or is this about anti-women? Yes, I did. Raising awareness of crimes a random woman commits has nothing to do with men's rights. Really? I don't mean to be rude, but that's about the dumbest statement I've heard today. The primary focus of any activist group is to take action. The more people who are aware of your existence and the issues that you fight for/against, the stronger and more likely to succeed that action is. To be successful, you have to raise awareness of your issues. If you think raising awareness has no part…	/r/MensRights	12/09/11 07:38 PM
6	Is this reddit about mens' rights, or is this about anti-women? Then you apparently didn't read my post.	/r/MensRights	12/09/11 07:25 PM
8	Is this reddit about mens' rights, or is this about anti-women? How are any of you different than the feminists you so despise? I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, since we (usually) don't demonize the entire other gender, but rather a subset of it (feminism). While I would agree that they can be annoying at times, there's something that you aren't realizing about these posts - they raise awareness. If it's a man being screwed over in regards to his children, it shows that women have to power to do this to men in our family courts. If it's about a woma…	/r/MensRights	12/09/11 07:21 PM
1	The story of my polygamous relationship and the vitriol and hatred I received from both men and women. You described a situation in which people pay lip service to purity but really do whatever they want. The quotes show that the consequences for getting caught are so extreme that people don't really have a choice. They just take huge risks with their personal safety. Yes, it is a huge risk, because the appearance of purity is such a huge deal. But it's also incredibly common that the people take that risk anyways. The relation to Christians wasn't meant to be a comment on the social repercussion…	/r/MensRights	09/09/11 08:30 AM
2	The story of my polygamous relationship and the vitriol and hatred I received from both men and women. So, I don't really know what you think I was saying there, because nothing you quoted had anything to do with what I said. The first quote technically did, but it simply backs up exactly what I was saying. They're concerned with the appearance of purity, not actual purity. And I wasn't saying that the practices in Saudi aren't backwards as fuck, or that women aren't oppressed. But the entire idea of purity of the women gets drastically overblown in Western eyes, which was what I was getting at.	/r/MensRights	08/09/11 07:16 PM
3	The story of my polygamous relationship and the vitriol and hatred I received from both men and women. We all know they tie a woman's worth to her virginity As someone who has lived in Saudi Arabia for several years... The women there have just about the same chance of being virgins when they marry as they do in the US. It's simply not as open. But when the girl and her friends "go shopping", what they do is write down their numbers on a piece of paper, and then throw them at guys that look attractive in the mall, with times that the guys can call them. If they get a hit, they chat for a while at…	/r/MensRights	08/09/11 06:10 PM
4	I know this has probably been asked before but due to some of the trolls and zealots around its pertinent again . I... don't know what got me interested in Men's Rights, actually. Since I was a teenager I've felt that there were things "off", that women could get away with things that I couldn't, etc. I never really put much thought into it, however, although I'd make comments here and there when topics of discrimination came up. The biggest two things for me were in college, when I had to take two social sciences as "core curriculum". I ended up taking Sociology and Marriage & Family. In the Sociology clas…	/r/MensRights	08/09/11 07:48 AM
1	Where does r/MensRights stand on the subject of abortion rights? I ignored them because the topic wasn't breached. And yet, you are clearly implying that consent to sex = consent to parenthood for the man, which is not true for women, even when abortion is taken out of the equation. You ignored two aspects that were relevant to the context of that post, which is a form of intellectual dishonesty. But, I would argue that men should have the right to retrieve a child abandoned without their consent. Which does absolutely nothing in evening out the situation. Th…	/r/MensRights	26/08/11 11:35 AM
7	Where does r/MensRights stand on the subject of abortion rights? You realize that the argument you're using (consent to sex) is the exact same argument that pro-life people use to justify banning abortion entirely, correct? Just making sure. Besides that, you completely ignore adoption and abandonment at safe havens, neither of which the woman needs the man's consent for, and neither of which is related in any way to male vs female biology. Point being, even if you remove biology from the equation, women have methods to absolve themselves of parental responsi…	/r/MensRights	25/08/11 09:07 PM
6	Where does r/MensRights stand on the subject of abortion rights? Abortion is not inherently a men's rights issue, so you'll find that opinions here will vary. On a personal level, I'm against abortion. However, I'm also against forcing my opinions on others, and especially against legislating morality. Hence, as far as the world is concerned, I'm "pro-choice". It's kind of the whole "I disagree with what you do, but I'll fight for your right to do it" kind of thing. The issue concerning abortion that you'll find men's rights agrees on is that men should have …	/r/MensRights	25/08/11 06:28 PM
3	Take a seat. I would agree with the idea that victimless crimes shouldn't be prosecuted or treated as such. Unfortunately, that's not how things work in America. We throw people in jail for smoking marijuana in their own homes. Who was the victim, exactly? The smoker? We prosecute underage kids who take photos of themselves naked and send them to the person they are dating, even in cases where there was no coercion from the partner. Who is the victim? We prosecute underage kids for rape even when the other c…	/r/MensRights	20/08/11 11:02 PM
6	Looong Facebook flame war regarding the religious, ethical, and legal questions surrounding infant male circumcision. He wasn't "taking it lightly". There are several different "forms" of FGM with varying degrees of severity, including forms that are comparable to male circumcision. The OP was pointing out that even FGM that is literally a pinprick, which is in not anywhere near the severity of male circumsion, is banned in the US, but we still allow male circumcision.	/r/MensRights	16/08/11 11:17 PM
1	Mom may walk free after killing her son because prosecutors can't find evidence proving that she also didn't try to kill herself It's the only way out that actually works. Other measures numb the pain of living a little, but that's all. Only if you consider all life to not be worth living (which it appears that you do). How can that be? How can you not consider life to be hell, knowing what it is and what it involves? Because I've had enough good times that, to me, outweigh the bad times that I've been through. According to your earlier post, neither do they. So who does? Who has the weighty responsibility of deciding whe…	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 06:52 PM
2	Mom may walk free after killing her son because prosecutors can't find evidence proving that she also didn't try to kill herself only way to end his suffering? You shouldn't present that as the only way out, because it's not. It might be the only "immediate" way out, but not the only one that will exist. Life is hell, and don't you dare try to claim otherwise. I haven't claimed that, actually, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth. But now that you've actually brought it up, I would claim that whether or not "life is hell" is subjective. I don't personally find life to be hell. There have been times I h…	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 06:00 PM
1	Mom may walk free after killing her son because prosecutors can't find evidence proving that she also didn't try to kill herself In my opinion? He isn't old enough to comprehend the gravity of death, therefore, he's not old enough to consent. We don't allow minors to "consent" to sexual encounters until the age of 16 in most places. Do you really think a kid half that age can consent to being killed? I'd personally argue that death is quite a bit more serious than sex, but opinions may vary.	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 04:48 PM
1	Mother jailed 30 years for sexual relationship with teen son No problem :)	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 02:49 PM
2	Why the Gender Gap Won't Go Away Sorry, but that's wrong. The equivalent of what you just said would be "Clearly, men are better workers since there are more male billionaires than female." The equivalent of what he said would be "Because women gain custody more often that men, it's obviously true that there are more female caretakers than male caretakers." Not that the logic is spot-on even in the equivalent case, but what you listed definitely isn't even the equivalent case.	/r/MensRights	04/08/11 06:33 PM
6	Mother jailed 30 years for sexual relationship with teen son The person is talking about the Westermark Effect, and the reverse being Genetic Sexual Attraction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprinting_(psychology)#Westermarck_effect GSA	/r/MensRights	04/08/11 06:23 PM
3	Researchers Have Difficulty Finding Men Who HAVEN'T Purchased Another Human Being For Sex I couldn't help but laugh when I read that, with their standards "loosened", one of their requirements was to " have not used pornography more than one time in the last month". Can anyone explain to me how looking at porn makes you guilty of "purchasing another human being for sex"? And, more importantly, even if by some twisted logic you could get around to equating it to "buying another human being for sex"... so long as it's consensual, why is that something that should be frowned upon? Isn't…	/r/MensRights	04/08/11 12:04 AM
6	Mom may walk free after killing her son because prosecutors can't find evidence proving that she also didn't try to kill herself If her defense argument—that her son's life was a hell of sexual abuse and death threats—is true, then she was, in my opinion, right to kill him. Nobody should have to grow up with that. Here's the thing - she doesn't have the right to make that decision. As much as I hate the thought of suicide, if someone decides to kill themselves, then that's their choice. I might disagree with it, but it's their life, and they (in my opinion) have the right to do that if they so choose. But you don't have t…	/r/MensRights	02/08/11 02:49 PM
0	Use "he", "him", and "his" as gender-neutral pronouns on her side of the argument Rantgrrl never argued on the side of thingsarebad. Her comments were a direct response to MuForceShoelace claiming that women were property. She was not involved at all in the brief spat between MuForce and thingsarebad about women never being oppressed.	/r/MensRights	01/08/11 01:53 AM
0	Use "he", "him", and "his" as gender-neutral pronouns Reading comprehension, do you have it? Rantgrrl is arguing that women weren't "slaves", not that they weren't "oppressed". There's a pretty big difference between those two terms, so I'm honestly confused on how you made the jump here.	/r/MensRights	01/08/11 01:33 AM
6	Boy Who Was a Minor Was Raped by His Girlfriend and Now Is Being Forced to Pay Child Support A woman should not be absolved of a child if she had consensual sex with a man and got pregnant. She is aware of the possibility of a child, even in unlikely circumstances where protection is used, and therefore has a responsibility to the pregnancy, even if it is unwanted.	/r/MensRights	01/08/11 01:20 AM
3	Misandry in r/TwoX - Eavesdropping on men having a conversation, inventing misogyny There's something like 3 comments on that page that say anything about misogyny. Everyone else is laughing about it and relating similar stories (as a male or female) where they caught/have been caught saying something about someone in a language that they thought the other person didn't understand. I don't have a problem with a cross post when it's something relevant, but don't just invent things please. There's no misandry going on here, and no misogyny either.	/r/MensRights	24/07/11 03:03 AM
3	Father's Rights Groups Threaten Women's Gains—And Their Safety By Pam Chamberlain There are so many things wrong with this article that I don't even know where to begin. The entire article is nothing more than strawman arguments and ad hominem. How does something like this even get published?	/r/MensRights	23/07/11 10:58 AM
9	What is MR after? I always thought it was gender equality, but lately I have seen comments with upvotes supporting gender roles. It's not really that the majority of MR wants that, but quite a few feel that things were more "equal" then than now. In the past, each gender had it's own "role". While the rights of each gender weren't equal, each had unique privileges to go along with it. [The actual "balance" of the system is debateable, of course, but that's outside the scope of this right now.] In the present day, women have largely been successful in throwing off their old gender roles. At the same time, they've maintaine…	/r/MensRights	17/07/11 10:16 AM
1	Feminists say female privilege is really benevolent sexism, and claim they are against it. Then why do they support female quotas, female-only scholarships, etc.? Equality of opportunity does not guarantee equality of outcome, nor any semblance of such. One of these is something that everyone should strive for. The other requires more sexism or racism to achieve. I'll let you decide which is which.	/r/MensRights	12/07/11 04:11 AM
4	Hypocrites No, the problem that MRAs have with the (modern) feminist movement is not because they only focus on women's issues, it's because they deny and/or downplay the issues that men have. As a direct result of this, they further strengthen and divert attention from the problems that men face, and are thus part of the problem. Nobody here who calls themselves an MRA denies that women were at one time discriminated against, and perhaps may still be, nor do we downplay their issues (so long as they are a…	/r/MensRights	05/07/11 01:38 PM
13	I am a man who was raped The poster said charged, not convicted.	/r/MensRights	04/07/11 06:29 PM
2	Don't MRAs and feminists both want gender equality? Where's the big disagreement? So basically, what you're saying is that equality in law is impossible because the people making the judgement (juror/judge) are susceptible to influence from society (where there is social inequality)? I suppose that is true, although it's more of a social problem than a problem of law at that point, isn't it? (Although the end result is the same I guess)	/r/MensRights	04/07/11 08:51 AM
2	Don't MRAs and feminists both want gender equality? Where's the big disagreement? You can't have equality under law and equality of outcomes. They're inherently contradictory. Equality of outcome is impossible regardless of whether or not you have equality under the law, since equality of outcome is based on society and is inherently unable to be changed by law itself. You can attempt to regulate it via law, and it may help the problem to an extent, but it won't eliminate the problem one way or the other. Equality under law, however, is very easisly possible, and should be wh…	/r/MensRights	04/07/11 03:47 AM
3	Divorced mother thinks father doesn't deserve shared custody of newborn \| Look into female sexism and entitlement \| (TwoX X/post) How in the WORLD is it sexual abuse? Is all breast feeding sexual abuse? How is the biological mother doing it not sexual abuse, but this is? I guess a lot of women need to be sent off to prison. As far as "parental alienation" goes, wet-nursing was very common, even in the United States, up until the last 60 years or so. Nothing I've ever read about the matter has suggested that there are detrimental effects to the child so long as the wet-nurse is healthy herself. If you're going to keep makin…	/r/MensRights	21/06/11 07:10 PM
0	Divorced mother thinks father doesn't deserve shared custody of newborn \| Look into female sexism and entitlement \| (TwoX X/post) Custody arrangements have been changed for far, FAR less nasty shit than this. So breastfeeding is "nasty"? Good to know. Also, care to actually provide a source for the rest of your claims about the health effects? Because, to my knowledge, cross breastfeeding used to be relatively common, and still is in parts of the world. The only real risk I know of is if the wetnurse has some kind of disease such as HIV that could be passed on to the child.	/r/MensRights	21/06/11 01:39 PM
1	Sexual fantasy and sexual reality are not the same thing - What little girls wear does not create paedophiles. What big girls wear does not create rapists You are misconstruing what people mean when they say "You shouldn't dress provocatively." They don't mean "You're a slut for doing it and you deserve to be raped." They don't mean "It's your fault that you got raped because that's how you dressed." What they're getting at, and what you don't seem to realize, is that dressing in that manner is a significant risk factor. The car/tv? Yeah, those are risk factors too, but nowhere near on the same level. Incidence of sexual assault for prostitutes, s…	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 05:49 PM