forthelove19 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
0	Men Under 33 are "Useless"		forthelove19	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 05:52 AM

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1	What is your problem with feminism? Lol, try the swing/weekend shift at amazon. Edit: don't ask for links if you don't care to read them lol	/r/ExRedPill	11/09/20 04:27 PM
1	What is your problem with feminism? Here is the copy and paste of the r/rbomi since you don't want to "wade through it" Overview: Many jurisdictions have rape laws that exclude male victims to some extent or another. Sometimes this involves wording the laws so that rape is defined as something that happens to a woman, and sometimes this involves defining rape as something that only a man can do (meaning that a man can legally be raped by another man but not by a woman). Examples/evidence: In the United States, both Idaho and Georg…	/r/ExRedPill	11/09/20 07:52 AM
1	What is your problem with feminism? The chart in the second link doesn’t support the claim that male and female spousal homicide rates were effectively the same 50 years ago. Elaborate? Also, did you not see this source? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://sites.oxy.edu/clint/evolution/articles/GenderDifferencesinPatternsandTrendsinUSHomicide1976_2015.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjWrPbN_d_rAhXGKM0KHeUQC-IQFjACegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3ZHlnX2-PAZ5hcU-JekzEe Also, did you not read anything about the "battered wife syndrome theo…	/r/ExRedPill	11/09/20 07:52 AM
2	What is your problem with feminism? None of that contradicts my point. Men injure and kill women vastly more than women injure or kill men. The links I posted supported that claim. The links you posted don’t contradict it. I didn't say that they contradicted your claim. Although rates of injury and death are higher in women, the rates of violent and aggressive behaviors physically is the same. Again, if you take an abusive behavior like punching, which is likely to do more damage, a man punching a woman or a woman punching a man? …	/r/ExRedPill	11/09/20 06:41 AM
1	What is your problem with feminism? Pt 2 There is also research that lesbian/bisexual women in same sex relationships experience the highest levels of domestic violence out of any other group Interesting comment regarding an article in the NIJ journal regarding male suicides rates in cases of domestic violence related deaths: https://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2012/04/murder-mystery.html I also recommend you read this post regarded domestic violence homicide. The following is a partially paraphrased quote from this com…	/r/ExRedPill	11/09/20 02:32 AM
2	What is your problem with feminism? Pt 1 Wrt rates of physical intimate partner violence, women scream more and commit ineffectual physical aggression as much or more, but men cause more injuries and murders: Yes, I mentioned in my last post that obviously that was debatable an that there was discrepancy there. Part of the reason that the physical abuse women engage in is considered "innefectual" is because women are smaller and physically weaker then men on average. But it isn't "innefectual." Yes, women do experience higher rate…	/r/ExRedPill	11/09/20 02:32 AM
1	What is your problem with feminism? So your complaint is not that women haven’t done anything for male rape victims, it’s that they haven’t done enough, even when men themselves aren’t doing diddly squat for male rape victims besides complaining on the internet. I'm not complaining about men or women. My beef is with modern third wave feminism and false narratives (which most men and women don't subscribe to, but it has still had an effect on our society and culture). When I say false narratives of 3rd wave feminism, this is what …	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 07:01 PM
1	What is your problem with feminism? I don't agree with any of those things, I do agree that there are some tradcons that are like that, but I am of the younger generation (I'm 19) a lot of the younger "conservatives" with "traditional values" that I see are far more progressive regarding those things then genx or boomer tradcons	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 06:25 PM
1	Question about the supposid yin yang nature of men and women The physical advantage over victims was just one example of a "position of power" not necessarily universal. Will hopefull fund the time to answer later since you put so much effort into this ling ass response. Lol, no worries. Enjoy your lunch	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 06:09 PM
1	Question about the supposid yin yang nature of men and women Pt 2 It's like the idea that people who are harmless are not virtuous simply because they are harmless. Rather, virtuous people are ones that are capable of causing great harm, but consciously refrain from doing so. So just because women don't commit more murders, doesn't mean that they are less aggressive or violent then men by some innate force of nature. Women are generally smaller and physically weaker on average then men. Women also are less likely to own a firearm and other lethal weapons …	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 05:10 PM
0	Question about the supposid yin yang nature of men and women Pt 1 You mean substance abuse is not against mens morals?? Wow didnt know that! Ow wait! So agression and violence are not against mens morals? Holy shit thats terrible! Is crime not agianst mens absolufe morals? Men are more prone to substance abuse, just fyi... And just to day, bc i cant believe im answering this stuff and losing my time with such a badly writen argument questionable my butt, Here you go Mr. Women are immoral Well I appreciate your response and the links you provided, I could …	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 05:09 PM
2	What is your problem with feminism? As a victim of male on male (child) abuse I've often found the discussion side lined for female on male abuse (not acceptable when I'm talking about my shit) or outright dismissed on some particularly poignant occasions, only then for those same users to crow about caring for male abuse victims. I'm not a token victim to be trotted out as an example of how you help those who've been abused, especially when you don't do anything to help. Let me first just say that I'm terribly sorry you had to go…	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 04:33 PM
1	What is your problem with feminism? I have never seen actually self proclaimed "mens rights activists" have a shocking point of view towards men who are abused or having other negative points of view towards men and I frequently visit and and interact with the r/mensrights subreddit	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 03:22 PM
1	A Few Topics to Tackle Fair enough, your personal anecdote alone is enough to help me at least challenge that idea. Also, what's with the down votes? Not your fault obviously, but what the hell is up with people down voting posts where I'm stating my toxic beliefs and asking for help/opposing viewpoints so that I can have them properly debunked? I have seen this happening a lot, I assume it's more women from FDS who are just here to shit on redpill men, rather than provide support,, this sub is wild sometimes lol. Any…	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 02:19 PM
-2	Question about the supposid yin yang nature of men and women Turns out that women handle doing more taks at once than men and therefore concenteate better than men, and also women are in fact more organized than men From your source: "It is not a myth - women really are better than men at multitasking, at least in certain cases, a study says." "One experiment in China found that women outperformed their male counterparts, while another in Sweden found that men may actually be better than women at multitasking when spatial tasks are involved." "Altogether,…	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 06:21 AM
4	What is your problem with feminism? How so?	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 04:22 AM
-1	What is your problem with feminism? The FBI definition of rape was expanded to include male victims thanks to feminist pressure. It was expanded to include male victims of rape by other males, not females. Again, it ignores "made or coerced to penetrate" as rape. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hzyy86/an_older_post_about_rape/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Men’s’ shelters have been shut down due to lack of funding and support, which is on everyone’s shoulders, not just feminists’ shoulders. If men won’t dona…	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 04:20 AM
1	A strong red pill asking thoughts on whats really bad about the red pill. Regarding what exactly? What information do you use in your life that relates to dread game?	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 12:53 AM
4	Question about the supposid yin yang nature of men and women This is also something I struggle with. To be more specific, this is the redpill interpretation of Taoist philosophies about masculinity and feminity as natural "energy sources" If anyone has anything not only to debunk or clarify the "yin and yang" dynamic, but also sources discussing philosophy and history of masculinity and feminity please let me know 🙏	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 12:50 AM
0	A Few Topics to Tackle Yeah sorry, that reply was directed at u/inareskai 's comment	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 12:35 AM
0	What is your problem with feminism? This is a great response, I especially like that you consider yourself a "humanist" I think the "reproductive rights" issue is incredibly nuanced, and obviously there are men and women that are on both sides. Regarding the "misogyny for a millennia" I think too many people are to quick to paint the "patriarchal structure" in an overly negative light. The reason that we had patriarchy as our main societal structure in the first place is because, for the past thousands of years in human history, i…	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/20 12:33 AM
1	A strong red pill asking thoughts on whats really bad about the red pill. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2l7pqe/the_12_levels_of_dread_the_rules_for_any_long/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Also, here is a post by u/redpilldetox regarding dread game, some of the other comments talk about prominent redpill figures who preach dread game. https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/41wszn/against_dread_game_based_on_science/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 11:32 PM
4	A strong red pill asking thoughts on whats really bad about the red pill. Have you not heard of the 12 principles of dread? Dread game is one of the central pillars to redpill philosophy.	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 11:13 PM
2	A strong red pill asking thoughts on whats really bad about the red pill. There is a difference between generalization and criticism. Redpill doesn't make criticisms of women, it makes broad pseudo-scientific generalizations. If you are wondering what the parallel to that is, then check out the FDS subreddit. If that subreddit seems irrational, bitter, and one-sided, just know that is exactly how women view TRP and men like us who subscribe(d) to it. The one positive that has come out of redpill and other communities for me is seeing that women can actually be pretty …	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 11:12 PM
1	A Few Topics to Tackle There is a lot. One of the topics that become absolutely destroyed is the whole "alpha/beta" dichotomy. I recommend you just click on u/redpilldetox profile and scroll through all his different posts	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 11:02 PM
2	What is your problem with feminism? So if you don't mind me asking, what is feminism to you/for you? Genuinely curious (that's the whole resosn I'm on this sub, to hear as many opposing viewloints as possible)	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 11:00 PM
-1	A Few Topics to Tackle Regarding 6. I'm pretty sure that I've seen studies that say an overindulgence in sexual promiscuity CAN be linked to a hindered ability to pair bond in men and women, but effects women more often/more intensely due to the more connections between the hemispheres of the brain? I will continue looking for the citation, but I do think there may be some truth to it for both sexes. Also, there is statistical data that the more sexual partners you have in general, whether as a man or a woman, makes y…	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 10:59 PM
3	A Few Topics to Tackle You should probably start by taking a look at the "redpill detox kit" by u/redpilldetox it has a lot of the answers you are looking for in there	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 10:43 PM
-4	What is your problem with feminism? Depends on which wave/type of feminism you are referring to. Mainstresm feminism is no longer about empowerment and building women up, it is about tearing men down. It has become a part of identity politics, mostly left leaning. Any woman who disagrees with certain views held by these left leaning feminist ideologs are mercilessly attacked. I have seen men's domestic abuse shelters shut down by feminist organizations (men are largely excluded from abuse shelters, despite being at least 40% of do…	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 10:41 PM
6	Why is it that you can’t really talk about Red pill issues on Reddit ? (Legit question, looking for answers, discussion, not looking for fight) Yeah that's weird. I don't necessarily see shit-testing as a purely a "redpill" idea. I've seen plenty of dating coaches who speak out against redpill, but still talk about how people "test" I think both men and women test each other in the beginning stages as a form of qualification before developing an attatchment or jumping into commitment. They just do it in different ways. Most relationship subreddits are pretty garbage though, wouldn't recommend taking any advice on any them	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 07:55 PM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? Fair enough I guess. Most of the replies under this post were similar to yours with the subtext that MOST women divorce because it's the man's fault, and I wrongly attributed that view to you. Apologies.	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 03:52 PM
2	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men That's for sure. Another thing that has helped me detox is browsing the FDS subreddit. It's basically the Feminist "left wing" version of the redpill. It helped me see that there are also plenty of women who are bitter and who have been burned.	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 04:19 AM
1	How to know if someone is redpiller? Again, I didn't cite the source to try and prove or disprove a point necessarily, just to show that there is a lot of nuance in the issue we were discussing about intellectual dark web creators and whether or not they radicalize or de-radicalize people. I guess I don't necessarily understand no. What I was trying to say is that there are plenty of studies that I have seen that leave out important variables that could/would very well drastically change the data collected, and it seemingly happens…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 04:16 AM
3	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men Thank you for your service salutes There are plenty of women like you on here that are incredibly helpful, even just when sharing opposing viewpoints and experiences that force me and others to reevaluate just how black and white our own beliefs are. But I guess, as they say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Edit: misspelled "wheel" damn autocorrect...	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 03:39 AM
1	How to know if someone is redpiller? I wasn't meaning to cite the source as 100% accurate or correct, merely that there was alternative data to the "alt-right gateway" theory. Regarding RCT as the most favorable approach for collecting data, that makes sense. One of the reasons I have a general distrust in mainstream academia is because of the amount of studies and data collection that display "omitted variable" biases. I don't think it's black and white. I think some creators are more potentially radicalizing then others. I think,…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 03:21 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? Bruh you is deadass acting like a little kid. Playground insults don't effect me first of all. Again, if i wasn't interested in learning anything, I wouldn't be here. I'm not dragging out the conversation, you have literally ignored every point I've made in order to insult me instead. Either you are doing this intentionally or you lack basic reading comprehension skills. I don't think my irrational bias towards women is completely justified. Again, if I did, I wouldn't be here you moron. I'm don…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 02:48 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? You’re just like all the other red pillers who come in here thinking you’re the shit and all you have to do is reject all the evidence we give and we’ll just come running back. I didn't reject your evidence "ass wipe" I literally cited your source and how your own source was inconsistent with your claim. Also, I don't think I'm "the shit" if I did, I wouldn't even be here. I don't consider myself "redpill" so stop conflating what I'm saying and what the other idiot in this thread is saying. You’…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 02:30 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? I guess we don't share the same experiences. Regarding the divorce lawyer, I'm sure he had a great grasp on the driving factors for divorce. But the problem is, his expertise is based on his experience with his own clients. Many different divorce lawyers take different angles when marketing their services to clients. So I could just as easily say that his experience is due to him attracting a certain type (or types) of clients that had these tendencies.	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 02:23 AM
1	How to know if someone is redpiller? Oh I see. If you choose to learn economics in uni you'll learn why policies like rent control and minimum wage are bad. Yeah, I've kinda already figured that out myself. There are plenty of good sources to learn online, it's just the sorting through the bullshit and putting everything together on my own that's difficult. No offense, but at your age/education level I doubt you know how to critique studies, let alone read them properly. It is a learned skill that I had to teach myself throughout u…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 02:19 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? Yes I disagree with OP, but I also disagree with the fact that the vast majority of women are fully justified for divorcing their husbands more often then their husbands divorce them. Not saying you said this, just wanted to make that clear	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:50 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? You should probably get banned anyways, for declaring “there’s no data” Okay, let me clarify. You said that the majority of divorces initiated by women were because of abuse, manipulation or because of neglect/taken for granted ("neglect" and "taken for granted" are the only plausible ones that show up across the top 3-5 in most studies done) Here is your source. https://www.self.com/story/reasons-for-divorce It is based off of a single study done by Pennsylvania State University. Physical or me…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:49 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? I'm still not sure if you meant to reply to this comment about monkey branching or if you meant to reply to my other comment. Regarding this comment, I was replying to someone who was using a lawyers anecdote to use as a general statement for why and when men and women get divorced. So this particular reply wasn't for you. Again I'm assuming you meant to reply to my other comment in the thread?	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:29 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? I haven't consumed redpill directly in about 2 months as per request of my therapist because he said I was using it as an unhealthy coping mechanism (which is true) The comment you replied to about "monkey branching" wasn't all that condescending (I certainly didn't intend for it to be) Calling me whiny for expressing a genuine concern about a real problem on this sub is pretty lame lol 4. You definitely don't strike me as commenting to spark conversation and honest discussion. I don't really ca…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:26 AM
1	How to know if someone is redpiller? I'm an AnCap lols. Hey same, kinda. Still new to the study of economics in general. Just graduated high-school, and I'm not in college, so all my learning is independent. I agree. I was just listing traits of redpillers. Okay, fair enough. I wrongly attributed left leaning views to you. But in my defense, a lot of people on this subreddit and on subreddits like r/menslib are blatantly biased politically leaning to the left, and are often not fully objective Jordan Peterson still knows what he's …	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:19 AM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Individuals are the ones who should be taking responsibility. We live in a culture where women in particular aren't held accountable. When a man divorces or cheats on a woman, it's because he's a disgusting low life pig When a woman cheats on or divorces a man, it's STILL because the man is supposedly a disgusting low life pig. When a man has shallow standards for women in dating, he is a sexist and misogynist When a woman has shallow standards for men in dating, she is leveling up and a "high v…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:08 AM
2	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men They shouldn't... but they do, and will continue to do so. All the while being outraged over "fatshaming" because we refuse to be attracted to a morbidly obese women who don't take care of themselves. As long as hell hasn't frozen over, these double standards will exist Edit: grammar	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:04 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? There are more then one study that talk about this. One study that surveyed men and women about initiating divorce found that 75% of the women who initiated divorce did so because of their OWN lack of commitment to the relationship.	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:02 AM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? The idea that women divorce men more often because of traditional gender roles or because of "patriarchy" is ridiculous and unfounded. Women get divorced because they can with little to no consequence. In fact, in most cases, they largely benefit from divorce as the husband is heavily discriminated against in family/divorce court.	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 12:00 AM
0	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? The vast majority of women who initiate divorces don’t do it in some vain attempt to trade up. They do it because they’re sick of being abused or taken for granted or manipulated or neglected. More often some combination of those. This is ridiculous speculation, but I'm not surprised. We live in a culture where women are never at fault or never have to take accountability for their actions. Some way or another, it's always somehow the man's fault that she cheated on him or divorced him. There is…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:58 PM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? Ah yes another "it's always the man's fault" kind of person, how do you do, fellow sexist?	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:54 PM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? I love responses like this, because they never fail to make all women look like angels who can do no wrong. Notice how every single bullet point started off with "because the man" and none started off with "because the woman" This is because you, and the rest of society think that whenever something goes wrong, no matter the actions of the individual, the underlying subtext is that it is the man's fault, or men's fault at large ("ack, the oppressive patriarchy!) Have you ever considered that, oh…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:54 PM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? it has alot more in common with feminist theory than it does the Red Pill lmao. Heres what Rosenfield says: "I think that marriage as an institution has been a little slow to catch up with expectations for gender equality...Wives still take their husband's surnames, and are sometimes pressured to do so. Husbands still expect their wives to do the bulk of the housework and the bulk of the childcare. I absolutely love when people bring this up, because they absolutely ignore the other side. Husban…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:48 PM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? It's literally the opposite, lol. By the time a woman breaks up with you, she has already gotten over you, and has already been at least been testing the waters before leaving. This is what redpillers call "monkey-branching" and a large majority of women do it. They spring board from their current relationship they want to get out of, into the next one. All the while their current relationship partner has no idea what the hell is going on	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:42 PM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? Here's an idea, why don't you actually read the study, and then report back? Lol	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:38 PM
1	If the redpill isn’t true then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? Statistically, men are more likely to cheat. So it's not a stretch to say that women are more likely to initiate a divorce. One event naturally would follow the other: man cheats, woman finds out and files for divorce. Couple of problems with this Women aged 18-29 are actually slightly more likely to cheat then men. And the rest of the rates of cheating, women cheat at nearly the same rates as men. Cheating statistics are self reported. Are we really going to take this data as empirical evidence…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:36 PM
1	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men Thank you	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:18 PM
2	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men If you didn't mean it like that, you could have privated messaged him rather than bringing public attention to it	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:16 PM
0	How to know if someone is redpiller? Whether redpill or not, I will reserve the right to call men who don't repsect themselves and let women walk over them "cucks" You can't make me stop...lol	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:08 PM
0	How to know if someone is redpiller? I'm going to go ahead and assume you are left of center. I don't understand this subreddits issue with Jordan Peterson. I also think it is insulting to throw Jordan Peterson, and a political pundit such as Ben Shapiro into the same category. Jordan Peterson speaks largely in an objective sense, and is much more open minded (and civil) in terms of discussion then ben is. You don't have to be redpilled or right of center to have a general distrust in academia.	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 11:07 PM
1	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men It's actually incredible that people completely ignore the similarities between that community and other manospherian communities	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 10:57 PM
1	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men It absolutely doesn't change that fact, but this sub is full of unhelpful women who are here purely to belittle men when they are trying to recover and are reaching out for help in the first place. I for one, find that very much a deterrent, and it makes me less willing to put the work in to detox from the manosphere Edit: re-worded/grammar	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 10:56 PM
4	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men It's often times in the comments. I got a couple comment replies yesterday on my post from women that were incredibly condescending and unhelpful. One was from a women who was a member of "female dating strategy" which is basically just redpill but make it feminist and male-hating When I called her out and quoted some of her man-hating and generalizing posts and comments from her post history, she immediately deleted her comment. I will say this again to any woman reading this, condescending rep…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 10:54 PM
2	This sub is made up mostly of women circlejerking about those evil men This is the type of condescending shit that isn't helpful.	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 10:49 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" I just think whether we are outraged, or whether we are apathetic in our reactions towards events, that we have to keep consistent and equal standards for everyone. I think that's all anybody really wants.	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 05:34 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Are you not familiar with intersectional outrage culture? There have been plenty of similar situations to this or that aren't nearly as serious in which there has been ridiculous outrage. (Fatshaming/bodyshaming, lack of representation of black trans disabled women in movies and TV, T.I.'s incident violating his daughter's privacy with yearly virginity check ups, to name a few I can remember from recently) You say you don't get selectively outraged, like a normal person. But that is not how the …	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 12:41 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Hmm, this contradicts every other data source I've seen. These data (from Table AI of the employment situation source Forbes cites) show that unmarried women and men participate in the labor force in equal number, but with marriage (and thus children) the rate of female employment goes down. What Forbes is counting is number of jobs (of which some could be part-time), and not number of employed persons (a more meaningful measure, and one used e.g. to calculate unemployment rate), because they wa…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 09:57 AM
3	Men Under 33 are "Useless" See, I almost took your reply seriously, Almost. Then I checked your post history and saw that you are a part of FDS, one of the most toxic subs I've ever been on in reddit (including redpill, mgtow, etc). I've been a lurking member for some time now, and redpill and FDS are literally different sides of the same coin in many different regards. The sub is constantly either directly or covertly "man-hating" and making unfair generalizations about men, and I find it nearly impossible to take anyone…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 09:02 AM
2	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Well, I appreciate it. I have greatly enjoyed this back and forth. It's much easier to be receptive to ideas and opposing viewpoints when people aren't calling me an "inseucre hypocritical incel redpill moron"	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 02:07 AM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" but nobody can really be their "full selves" on dating apps because the parameters for evaluation are inherently limited. I didn't mean they couldn't display their "full selves" I meant they are free to discriminate partners based on any parameters they want, usually ones they wouldn't discriminate against irl, due to outside judgement As for the men in question, I'm talking about socially-conservative working class men (or socially-conservative immigrant men, which is my own realm of experience…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 02:01 AM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Literally not true. Not sure what this graph is representing, but here https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/01/13/women-now-hold-more-jobs-than-men/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15994413439491&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fjackkelly%2F2020%2F01%2F13%2Fwomen-now-hold-more-jobs-than-men%2F The jobs report for December showed women holding 50.04% of al…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 01:40 AM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" I'm not asking for "performative outrage" I'm expressing my frustrations with the media, and with women's double standards in general. I am asking for accountability, consistency, and an end to "selective outrage" you don't get to ignore this because "it's not worth your time" and then choose to get outraged over things that apply to your gender (fatshaming, or a perfect example would be T.I.'s violation of his daughters privacy with the obgyn visits to make sure she's still a virgin). You eithe…	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 01:14 AM
2	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Ah yes, the root cause of every problem ever, capitalism and patriarchy. Lol.	/r/ExRedPill	07/09/20 12:38 AM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" I'm talking about selective outrage, not whether the statement is overall "acceptable" or not.	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 11:31 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" First One thing I don't understand is why you and others need to see people "speak out against it". I wouldn't ask white boys to speak out against school shooters. I wouldn't ask all muslims to speak out against Muslim terrorists. I wouldn't ask men to apologise and speak out against male rapists. Etc. Jesus christ that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm talking about the double standard, at least in the media. You seemed to conveniently skip over that part, so I will reiterate for you. If a man …	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 09:24 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" So basically, for men to be valued beyond their capabilities to provide, we have to checks notes give women access to publicly funded childcare and maternity leave?? If anything, the undervaluing of men comes from the absence of fathers in their children's lives. In which case you would want to appeal and defend programs like welfare where women become married to/dependent on the state, and also become stuck in a poverty cycle. Also, women can provide for themselves just fine now. More women are…	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 05:26 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" "top 5-10% by physical attractiveness" (whatever that means), Studies of dating apps (I believe the main one was tinder) found that there was a huge disparity in matches, where 95% of the women on the app(s) were matching with 5-10% of the men. Everyone loves to say "that's not real life! Not everyone is on dating apps!" But I strongly disagree. Online dating is where people are allowed to be their full selves, no matter how shallow. The decisions made on tinder is almost ENTIRELY on initial sex…	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 05:12 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" First, she never said why those under 33 year olds were "useless". In past interviews she mentions that “men in their 20s are very confident and cocky, and women are super insecure”. She may not like dudes in their 20s because they find them too "dude bro" cocky types to date. People seem to be hyper focusing on JLo, when again, the emphasis on the post is that these major publications are agreeeing and citing "relationship experts" or the countless women who agreed when the article was posted t…	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 04:31 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" No, it really isn't. The real issue isn't whether or not JLo is an authority on dating, it's the ridiculous double standard being ignored. Again, if a man said publicly "women are really useless after 30-35" he would be ripped to shreds.	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 04:21 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" The point wasn't the arbitrary age limit, the point is that many women see men as "useless" dating prospects unless they are financially secure, or are in the top 5-10% of men in terms of physical attractiveness	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 04:20 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" The real problem is the double standard that is being ignored. Again, if a man said publicly "women are really useless after 30-35" he'd be torn to shreds. Things like this are "too stupid to debunk" until it's attack on your own gender	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 04:18 PM
3	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Yeah, this is usually what I delude myself into thinking in order to fall asleep at night lol	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 01:10 PM
4	Men Under 33 are "Useless" I'm fully aware of it. The real problem I have is with all the women on social media and in real life that I have seen agreeing with it	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 01:07 PM
1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Her advice was given to the 29 year old on the show. It is very common for younger women aged 18 to 35 to be more attracted to "older men" Which no one seems to have an issue with with. What people do have an issue with is when older men are the ones that want to be in relationships with "younger women"	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 01:06 PM
0	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Because nobody cares enough about what Jennifer Lopez said? That awful has-been actress and the shit coming out of her mouth isn't worth discussing? I guarantee if an actual figure of authority claimed this, and some would, people would actually care enough to debate. Who are you to say JLo isn't a figure of authority to some people? Again, I'll reiterate as well, articles from major news publication, mainstream relationship experts, and every woman I've seen discuss this when it's posted to soc…	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 12:44 PM
0	Men Under 33 are "Useless" Fair enough, but JLo said this as a piece of advice for a 29 yo	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 12:40 PM
-1	Men Under 33 are "Useless" I haven't seen a single article speaking out against this. In social media posts regarding this, every single women is either silent, or agrees. So no, it isn't a generalization after a just seeing a few women agree lol Instead of focusing on that, why not respond to the points in the post or the article/statement itself? Isn't discussion the whole point of this sub?	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 06:11 AM
1	Venting, could use some insight Part 3 You said about women not being able to take your 'raw emotions' but since when you or men listen to women's 'raw emotions'? You and every other men are either foolishly ignorant or blatantly ignore just how much women hide and censor their emotions. You don't want to hear how much women suffer and struggle in day to day basis because men and society still don't see them as human beings. You want women to tell you, "I'm sorry, it must be tough being a man right, you have it soooo hard," bu…	/r/ExRedPill	04/09/20 06:49 AM
1	Venting, could use some insight Part 2 So your claim is not fucking true. Women get less sentence because they commit less severe crime and low criminal history. My original source, and the sources above compare case by case basis in which criminal history was similar between the two, and the same crime was committed. You claim court is biased against men and women get punished less for the same crime. Rape is a fucking crime you idiot. If court can be biased towards men when it comes to rape, what makes you think court will b…	/r/ExRedPill	04/09/20 06:49 AM
1	Venting, could use some insight Part 2 since my reply was too long Right, and who changed the laws to make sure rape victims and rape definition include men? Feminists. And who hate feminists with such a fury, accused them for ruining everything, for excluding men and should have never existed? Men. What do I know, right? I'm just a woman, I'm always wrong. Go ignore the real statistics and history, live in your redpill lala land and play the little violin louder. This last part I can barely make out because it's incoherent gi…	/r/ExRedPill	02/09/20 10:27 AM
1	Venting, could use some insight Wow, this is a really angry reply, especially considering my tone for the most part in my post was neutral, but here we go I guess? Are you implying there's no social stigma around mental illness in women? Because guess which sex gets called crazy for every little weird thing they do and which sex never gets called crazy even after they shoot up the whole school? Ridiculous, men don't go to therapy because they don't want to fucking hear something is wrong with them. Even if they go, they'll arg…	/r/ExRedPill	02/09/20 10:25 AM
2	Venting, could use some insight Whether it be any TV sitcom for the last 30 years, social media like Instagram, Twitter, tik tok, etc	/r/ExRedPill	02/09/20 05:24 AM
3	Venting, could use some insight For starters regarding suicide data, your own source says that men had higher levels of suicidal intent then women do. So the rates of attempted to me don't hold as much weight as people who are serious enough about suicide to make sure that it succeeds. Also, not to disregard/invalidate any person's depression regardless of gender, but diagnosis of depression is usually only around 50% accurate (also, the diagnosis of depression is very vague in the first place). Not to mention women are far mo…	/r/ExRedPill	02/09/20 03:08 AM
3	Venting, could use some insight Not projecting insecrities, this is still the norm in western culture. Like I said, women like you are far and few inbetween. Men are regarded as disposable and unimportant. Men's mental health issues are shoved aside, even though men commit suicide at 3-4 times the rate Men are purposefully excluded from rape statistics (because to mainstream statistics, "made or coerced to penetrate" doesn't count as rape. Wut) as well as ignored when it comes to domestic violence victims. Men's domestic viole…	/r/ExRedPill	01/09/20 10:54 PM
2	Venting, could use some insight Well, women like you seem to be far and few in between. There are legions of women that make claims like this, and end up being exactly what they say they aren't THAT is why men are so apprehensive and are aversive to opening up. Because the risk far outweighs the "rewards" Men are the more disposable sex by far. If men aren't providing something, then we aren't important or of value to women or society, where as women have inherent intrinsic value simply for being women. One of the common trope…	/r/ExRedPill	01/09/20 09:07 PM
2	Venting, could use some insight That's the difference though. We are expected to comfort and reassure her when she cries, even if it's over nothing, but if we get angry or visibly upset (god forbid cry infornt of them) it is considered "emotional labor" and they are turned off, and lose attraction and respect. You said it yourself, you have to frame your sharing of emotions in a different way in order for them to listen, be receptive, and for it not to backfire "it's less of a woe is me, and more of a 'this is what's going on.…	/r/ExRedPill	01/09/20 08:57 PM
3	time to begin cross-posting! Right, different sides of the same coin. It has honestly helped me to see that there are bitter hurt women out there that also cling to toxic belief systems to avoid further hurt. It really helps to see them more as the human beings that they are (seeing as how redpill teaches AWALT, hypergamy, women can't love men the way men want to be loved, and other tropes) rather then some evil opportunistic machines that only exist to hurt and take advantage of me. Empathy is a powerful tool, and has been…	/r/ExRedPill	01/09/20 08:14 PM
4	Is Redpill really bullshit? The detox kit and other things along with it in this subreddit really are essential, the more often you read things that are contrary to your toxic red pill belief system and the more times you challenge it, the more you will begin to realize that things aren't as black and white as they seem. Another thing I'd recommend if you are looking for a long term relationship is to stop having casual sex, and to stop putting such a high value on sex (especially on casual sex/sexual conquest) Most people…	/r/ExRedPill	01/09/20 07:49 PM
6	Is Redpill really bullshit? If you have read the detox kit, you'd know that one of the problems you are facing is the TYPE of women you are attracting. Who you attract and connect with on a deep level will always be a reflection of who you are on some level or another. Also, 99% of the women you'll meet in bars (as well as 99% of the men), especially at a younger age, are not the type of people you want to get in a long term relationship with, because they are not long term relationship/monogamy oriented. Their main focus …	/r/ExRedPill	01/09/20 07:28 PM
1	time to begin cross-posting! FDS should get equal/similar treatment. Redpill is quarantined, and so should the FDS subreddit. They are two different sides of the same coin. Their top up-voted posts have nothing to do with "strategy" it has to do with man hating/complaints about the invisible oppressive patriarchy. As an avid reader of this sub, trying to recover from a toxic red pill belief system, my initial reading of the FDS sub and recognizing the over all tone of the community thrust me right back into the red pill wor…	/r/ExRedPill	01/09/20 07:18 PM