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| 9 | Detroit "Men's Rights" conference protests planned in wake of Santa Barbara shootings and online petition is collecting signatures to have the host hotel cancel the conference.Remember the first rule of Fight Club... That's a fine rule if you're an underground fight club of a few dozen people, but that's not the case for /r/TheRedPill. There are over 50 thousand subscribers just to this subreddit. Include the nearly 100 thousand anti-feminists at /r/mensrights and that's a lot of people. And that's just on reddit. TRP isn't some impotent little fight club that has to hide in basements. There's no need to hide and try to keep the rest of the world from finding out abou… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/05/14 01:50 AM |
| -12 | Woman on 2X describes the sub as "woe is me I'm female" - you can guess what happensmy belief that we ought to have mandatory classes to teach women how to argue without appealing to anecdote. How many classes? Once a week? One semester, or multiple? What class or subject do you cut to make room for it? What's included in the curriculum? What ages do students take these classes? Will there be standardized tests a la No Child Left Behind to make sure they are taken seriously? | /r/TheRedPill | 28/05/14 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Gay male nfl player.I'm not making a deductive argument. Note especially my use of the phrase "it would seem". But the lack of openly gay players does point towards something, especially in the presence of larger societal homophobia. Since multiple players have come out as gay after retiring, it's clear that being gay doesn't mean one is less capable at football. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/14 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Gay male nfl player.r/MensRights addresses things that only affect some men all the time. It's not like the posts about women being favored in divorce court, etc. are about issues that affect gay men. Why is an issue about gay men not a men's issue, but an issue about straight men a men's issue? | /r/MensRights | 11/05/14 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Gay male nfl player.God forbid we see things based on people's merits and not their skin color, gender, or sexual preference. Considering that he's the first openly gay NFL player, it would seem that the NFL has not been doing a good job judging things based on merit and not sexuality. Otherwise, there'd be more openly gay NFL players. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/14 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Can we ban screenshots of facebook posts? They can easily be faked, almost always come from non-credible sources, and undermine the significance of the men's rights movement.The problem with just downvoting things is that they still clog up the /new stream and often, they don't get downvoted. There's been a lot of highly upvoted screenshots of facebook conversations. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/14 12:43 AM |
| 1 | A Word On Rape CultureBro, you're on a subreddit based around rules for dating/sex and Matrix references. I don't think you're one to talk. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/04/14 12:19 PM |
| -5 | A Word On Rape CultureBut their probability of being raped is still like 0.000000000001% Yes. Women not "engaging in obviously dangerous behaviors" have a 1 in a 100 trillion chance of being raped. This is why literally none of them have ever been raped, seeing as how there's only ever been tens of billions of humans. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/04/14 03:00 AM |
| 0 | In advance of the ABC story about Anita Sarkeesian receiving anonymous threats online, I just wanted to remind everyone that she posted a murder-fantasy where she kills videogame designer Randy Pitchford by shooting him three timesI'm sorry you're dumb :( | /r/MensRights | 26/10/13 02:49 AM |
| -9 | For ‘Equal Pay Day’, An ATM That Gives Less Money To MenIt's easier to downvote than to admit being wrong :-) | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 11:31 AM |
| -150 | For ‘Equal Pay Day’, An ATM That Gives Less Money To MenYes. Because high-paying jobs like doctor, lawyer, CEO, programmer, etc. are so dangerous. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 01:05 AM |
| 0 | Recent fake story troll posts: Don't fall for this shitWhat, do you need me to link you to a German dictionary to believe me on what Mensch means? You could just look it up yourself. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/13 04:24 AM |
| -1 | Recent fake story troll posts: Don't fall for this shitPointing out the linked post gets major details in its history wrong is a damning criticism. An article which tries to establish a repressed history as true doesn't succeed if its history is itself false. Your link has no credibility. Sorry. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/13 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Recent fake story troll posts: Don't fall for this shitBut the world’s first men’s rights organization was founded as an international one, founded in 1926 in Vienna, Liga Für Menschenrechte (League for Men’s Rights). I stopped reading at this point. I don't know who wrote this, but they don't speak German very well. Mensch doesn't mean man. It means human. The League for Human Rights is a real organization (or rather, group of organizations) that exists to this day. Here's the website for the Austrian chapter. Googling for "Sigurd Höberth" (the all… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/13 03:32 AM |
| 0 | Recent fake story troll posts: Don't fall for this shitIf what a movement is is determined by the impact that movement has on the world, then doesn't that mean the men's rights movement is nothing? You know, because you are so utterly ineffectual at activism? | /r/MensRights | 15/10/13 02:41 AM |
| -5 | Recent fake story troll posts: Don't fall for this shitIf you look at the old Sublime song "Date Rape", The song that ends with the punchline of a man getting raped in prison? Is this really what we want to base our understandings of rape on? | /r/MensRights | 14/10/13 02:58 AM |
| -2 | I go to UC Santa Cruz and they have a confessions page on facebook. Figured I'd anonymously look for other MRAs in the school there....I am not entirely surprised by the response.Why did they hear those phrases and from where did these phrases come from? I think we can all agree that feminism can be thanked for this. Actually, I am basing my opinion on what I've seen MRA groups do. Take, for example, Men's Rights Edmonton's response to the Don't be that Guy campaign. They didn't respond by advocating for male rape victims. Instead, they responded by attacking women for being dishonest and malicious. GWW responded with a video titled "don’t be that lying feminist". Or con… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/13 01:24 PM |
| -2 | I go to UC Santa Cruz and they have a confessions page on facebook. Figured I'd anonymously look for other MRAs in the school there....I am not entirely surprised by the response.Actually, I am basing my opinion on what I've seen MRA groups do. Take, for example, Men's Rights Edmonton's response to the Don't be that Guy campaign. They didn't respond by advocating for male rape victims. Instead, they responded by attacking women for being dishonest and malicious. GWW responded with a video titled "don’t be that lying feminist". Or consider the time some people from Men's Rights Edmonton showed up to a Slutwalk rally to harass women. Or consider the time A Voice for Men fa… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/13 12:30 PM |
| -11 | I go to UC Santa Cruz and they have a confessions page on facebook. Figured I'd anonymously look for other MRAs in the school there....I am not entirely surprised by the response.Regardless of whether you feel your hate is justified, the fact is that MRAs are most well known for hating on feminists, not for advocating for men. This sort of thing makes it pretty clear that MRAs have an image problem. | /r/MensRights | 10/10/13 03:38 AM |
| -9 | I go to UC Santa Cruz and they have a confessions page on facebook. Figured I'd anonymously look for other MRAs in the school there....I am not entirely surprised by the response.God, it's almost like MRAs are known for hating feminists, and not known for rallying for cancer research and victims of sexual assault! Maybe if MRAs spent less time hating feminists, people wouldn't get this impression of them! | /r/MensRights | 10/10/13 02:25 AM |
| 1 | How do feminists hurt women? /r/tfts has an answerThat's a lot of words that weren't in your original post. You keep adding to it when criticized. Why don't you just admit that your argument, as first written, was incoherent? | /r/MensRights | 07/10/13 12:19 AM |
| 1 | How do feminists hurt women? /r/tfts has an answerNo, they are not the same argument. But no one has claimed that, so I don't know why you mention this obvious fact. What is true is that my argument had the same structure as your argument. Here, let me make it more obvious for you, since you seem to be having difficulty with this simple point: There are a nonzero number of people with property A who also have property B. Everyone knows this. Therefore, anyone with property A must prove they don't have property B. Both our arguments have this st… | /r/MensRights | 06/10/13 10:01 PM |
| 1 | How do feminists hurt women? /r/tfts has an answerAgain, no they weren't. Um... actually, the structure of the arguments were identical, as I just copied your argument word for word and then replaced "women in tech" with "men" and "got job because of being afraid of being called sexist" with "being a pedophile". Your argument was just that there's at least one woman in tech who got a job because they're a woman and the company didn't want to look sexist. Therefore, women have to "prove themselves" as not incompetent. Nowhere did you mention aff… | /r/MensRights | 06/10/13 03:03 PM |
| 3 | How do feminists hurt women? /r/tfts has an answerLet's be honest. There are a nonzero number of men who are pedophiles. Everyone knows this. So what does that mean? That means every man has to first prove himself that he's not a pedophile. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/13 12:52 AM |
| 2 | If you don't get AVOICEFORMEN.COM, STFU! (Or, how AVFM.com is selling the MHRM)You are scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to whine about. Your choice to take that speech as an attack on homosexuality shows that pretty clearly. The MRM, where thinking homophobia is a bad thing is "scraping the bottom of the barrel". This might be one reason people outside the pathetically small number who show up to MRM rallies don't take you seriously. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/13 02:13 AM |
| -1 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]*shrug* I'm sorry your movement is so shitty and impotent. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 07:51 PM |
| -1 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]No. While I certainly am all for men and think there are aspects of modern western society which harm men, I don't think the MRM is a productive place to work on these issues, for several reasons. The MRM has a terrible track record with other axes of oppression. Put simply, the MRM isn't a men's rights movement, but rather a straight, cisgender, white men's rights movement. Related to the first reason, the MRM doesn't understand intersectionality. The MRM is caught up in a libertarian ideology.… | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 12:54 PM |
| 0 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]Of course. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 01:50 AM |
| 0 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]Something about this thread makes it hard to give the benefit of the doubt. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 12:22 AM |
| 1 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]Wow, way to reduce the queer struggle to being entirely about fulfilling our sexual needs. As a queer man: fuck you. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 12:04 AM |
| 2 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]I was advising him on how to not be a shitty excuse for a human being. That seems more important to me than being "successful with women". Anyway, you really should abide by my point number 4 above. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 10:21 PM |
| 5 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]Because liking rough sex does seem to indicate that you are not just attracted to the nice sensitive guys who value women as people that most women claim to be attracted too. Christ but you're an unlikeable douche. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 10:19 PM |
| 3 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]What's BS about it? Saying the OP should exercise more? Saying he shouldn't think of masturbation as a poor substitute for sex? Saying he should care about the people in his life for who they are as individuals, not for belonging to group comprising about half of all humans? Saying that he should be able to interact with women without thinking about how much he wants to fuck them? | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 10:14 PM |
| 2 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]I'll leave you with this thought: you started by vehemently protesting that women aren't witches, bitches (liches?), and ended with this: "My partner... says... This dumbass doesn't know what he's talking about." Do you feel like you've successfully defended your gender as compassionate, loving, caring, understand, anything? I don't think anything I do reflects on women due to the simple fact that I am not a woman. I think you do, because you set out to "win" rather than help. I did spend one po… | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 08:36 PM |
| 1 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]*sigh* I should have known that giving you earnest advice would be a waste of my time. That's a damned shame. I don't know what you mean by "don't be a misogynist". Please clarify. You should read what women say about their experiences with misogyny then. That would be informative. Now remember, when you do this, to keep an open mind and don't just read everything with the intent of refuting the experiences of everyone who disagrees with you. Firstly, I don't care about myself. No, you quite cle… | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 08:31 PM |
| 2 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]I'm not qualified to extrapolate the nuanced arguments behind overused buzzwords like "creepy", "rapey", "misogynist" etc. I'd be very interested to see what you consider an honest summary of the negative responses made on my post(s). Preferably one that doesn't contain the aforementioned fourth-wall-breaking words. I don't think you know what it means to break the fourth wall. Anyway, your post was Rapey: because you were saying you don't think you should respect consent; Misogynistic: because … | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 08:11 PM |
| 2 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]A tree is a video game, in the sense that both are systems of input-output. You input water to a tree and it outputs fruit. This analogy is fun and useful! :D | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 07:05 PM |
| 2 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]Ask yourself whether the man in your life is really like this or if you've pinned these "positive" qualities to him because you like him and you harbor heavy biases. I guess "sweet" is vague to the point of meaningless, but caring, sensitive, and thoughtful fit him. But because I'm asking how best to get emotional intimacy and - yes - sex Here's some free advice (I say "woman" a lot because you appear to be a straight man, but really the advice holds for people of all genders and orientations): … | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 07:03 PM |
| 3 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]I didn't ask for advice about relating to women purposely. I wanted to learn how to succeed with women, God, I wonder why women would react poorly to you treating them like some kind of video game. Your intelligence really does speak for itself... | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 06:46 PM |
| 0 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]Okay, let's dissect this comment as well. So from what I can gather from all the well-constructed criticisms (i.e. creepy! rapist! disgusting!) is a few things: That wasn't the extend of the criticisms. Don't lie. I posted wrong. I said stuff that hurt people's feelings in a sub where that's considered a crime against humanity. This is clear from the fact that my post was deleted very quickly That's also a misrepresentation of what was said. Insulting people you are asking for advice is rude and… | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 06:41 PM |
| 2 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes][excuses---with yet more negative views of women!---for your prior comments] Yeah, sure you care about improving yourself. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 06:24 PM |
| 3 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]It's rambly, poorly-written, and cringey. What's eloquent about it? The long run-on sentences? The pathetic alternating from insulting women to calling them beautiful? The crass appeal to a misunderstanding of evolution? | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 03:50 PM |
| 6 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]Let's go through your post and look at why people would react negatively to it. As I am still an organism shaped by evolutionary pressures (i.e. the pressure to continue my line), Opening up by saying that you are in thrall to an evolutionarily-enforced desire to procreate is creepy and raises all kinds of red flags. It removes your agency from the situation. You don't take responsibility for the aspects of your personality/behaviors that make you unsuccessful at getting women to like you. Rathe… | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 03:47 PM |
| 1 | I'm one of those "spectral" fellows that looks at your beautiful gender semi-objectively : [x-post from TwoXChromosomes]I found that quite eloquent. I'm sorry you have such low standards for eloquence. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 03:27 PM |
| 1 | What’s Missing When Dad’s Missing?: Statistics on the importance of having a biological dad in the homeThe child wouldn't be adopted in the case in question. They were born of one of the fathers and a surrogate. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/13 03:44 AM |
| 1 | What’s Missing When Dad’s Missing?: Statistics on the importance of having a biological dad in the homeAlso, while you are answering questions, why do you feel that gay and bisexual men cannot make a good pair of parents? After all, at most one of them would be the biological father to any child, so if it's bio-dads that are important, then the other partner is just superfluous. Not to mention the whole "children need a father and a mother" thing you are pushing is also incredibly excluding of gay and bisexual men. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/13 12:05 AM |
| 2 | What’s Missing When Dad’s Missing?: Statistics on the importance of having a biological dad in the homeSo you think that if a man adopted a child he wouldn't be a good parent? | /r/MensRights | 25/09/13 07:53 PM |
| 1 | What’s Missing When Dad’s Missing?: Statistics on the importance of having a biological dad in the homeSo why include the word "biological"? | /r/MensRights | 25/09/13 01:59 PM |
| 1 | What’s Missing When Dad’s Missing?: Statistics on the importance of having a biological dad in the homeWhat’s Missing When Dad’s Missing?: Statistics on the importance of having a biological dad in the home Is the implication that men are useless unless they are biologically related to the child? | /r/MensRights | 25/09/13 12:25 PM |
| -2 | Women outnumber men in 7 out of 11 graduate fields, yet media focuses on female underrepresentation in STEM fieldsIf you look at only the STEM fields of those reported (i.e. Biology, Engineering, Health Sciences, Mathematics/Computer Science, and Physical Sciences), you'll note that women make up less than a third of PhDs in 3 of those 5 fields. In one the numbers are about equal and in the last women vastly outnumber men. It is simple fact that women are underrepresented in STEM fields. As for why media focuses on STEM fields versus other fields, that is clearly because STEM is seen to be more valuable tha… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/13 06:07 PM |
| 1 | When Tostan, an African aid program, only educated villagers on women's rights, men felt like their struggles were being ignored. The organization then decided to cover the rights of both genders -- and was far more successful as a result.You should know that as a feminist, I hate all men. Except you, of course <3 | /r/MensRights | 19/08/13 09:29 PM |
| 0 | When Tostan, an African aid program, only educated villagers on women's rights, men felt like their struggles were being ignored. The organization then decided to cover the rights of both genders -- and was far more successful as a result.MRAs do not want to rollback women's rights. O RLY? | /r/MensRights | 18/08/13 07:03 PM |
| 1 | What future event/tragedy do you think will happen that will make people realize not only are women no longer deprived but in fact equal to men?I'm not going to do your homework for you. I will link you to a wikipedia page, but that's it. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 04:30 PM |
| 2 | What future event/tragedy do you think will happen that will make people realize not only are women no longer deprived but in fact equal to men?Two really basic points: Patriarchy and harmful gender roles hurt both men and women. Patriarchy is something we all contribute to and reproduce. It isn't the result of just men. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 04:10 PM |
| 3 | What future event/tragedy do you think will happen that will make people realize not only are women no longer deprived but in fact equal to men?You have to understand, abortion was illegal in the US until about 40 years ago. The median age in the US is about 37 (source). That is, nearly half of all Americans were born when abortion was illegal. And it's not like once the Supreme Court legalized abortion that everyone magically supported women having a right to reproductive choice. A very common, mainstream even, belief is that women shouldn't be allowed to exercise control over their own bodies. It's not like everywhere but Texas is a u… | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 04:08 PM |
| 2 | What future event/tragedy do you think will happen that will make people realize not only are women no longer deprived but in fact equal to men?Yes, yes it would. Women can oppress women too. It's only you who thinks patriarchy must come only from men. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 03:58 PM |
| -7 | What future event/tragedy do you think will happen that will make people realize not only are women no longer deprived but in fact equal to men?Oh, it wasn't trolling, it was just pointing out that the OP is wrong and blatantly wrong. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 04:51 AM |
| -5 | What future event/tragedy do you think will happen that will make people realize not only are women no longer deprived but in fact equal to men?Honestly? A little bit. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 03:38 AM |
| -7 | What future event/tragedy do you think will happen that will make people realize not only are women no longer deprived but in fact equal to men?A US state effectively outlawing abortion. Oh wait, that seems to show that oppression of women does exist. Damnation, I thought I'd found something. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 01:35 AM |
| 0 | Question for Men's Rights advocates: How does the men's rights movement differ from gender egalitarianism, if at all?Reddit doesn't allow spaces in usernames and underscores are often used to denote spaces... I mean, I could refer to myself as Fractal Shark if that helps you not be confused (not that I think it will). Not to mention if having an underscore in one's reddit username is all it takes to be part of the spermjack_attack/fractal_shark hive mind, then we count among our ranks 5 of the top 20 redditors by comment karma. My name is Legion for we are many and all that. Anyway, your delusions that there c… | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 01:31 AM |
| 0 | Question for Men's Rights advocates: How does the men's rights movement differ from gender egalitarianism, if at all?It's really easy to hate GWW. After all, she's petty, mean, and stupid. But you spend enough time reading her repetitive nonsense and it turns into pity. She got popular by making videos where she spouts uninformed opinions about feminism, women, and society. This subsequently led to her becoming popular amongst people who like uninformed opinions about feminism and women. But now she's trapped in those views, because if she ever realized that she's wrong, her fans would turn on her. She's creat… | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 01:20 AM |
| 0 | Question for Men's Rights advocates: How does the men's rights movement differ from gender egalitarianism, if at all?Is this why you get upset when Spermjack Attack quotes things you said months ago? Because it was something you said more than 7 hours ago? Or are you just pretending 7 hours is a long period of time to try to cover up your stupidity and anti-intellectualism? | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 01:12 AM |
| 0 | Question for Men's Rights advocates: How does the men's rights movement differ from gender egalitarianism, if at all?If a person needs to read 518 pages 518 pages isn't very much. On my tablet, I currently have 5112 pages worth of mathematics texts (and that's just the books---I didn't want to go through dozens of papers to sum of their lengths). Technology is magic! And this is just reading material on one subfield (set theory) of mathematics. And it certainly doesn't exhaust the field. There is a lot of work to understand a body of intellectual thought. That's what happens when very smart people spend decade… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 10:45 PM |
| 0 | Question for Men's Rights advocates: How does the men's rights movement differ from gender egalitarianism, if at all?Well, I guess she faces the problem that if she were to educate herself, she'd realize just how stupid all her current arguments are. But since her mindless fans like her for those vapid arguments, stopping using them would lessen their view of her. If she were to realize how wrong she is and argue in the opposite direction, these MRAs would hate her. So much misogygy would result. She has to choose between cleaving to ignorance or have her fans hate her (and we all know how hatred for a woman m… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 09:28 PM |
| -4 | Question for Men's Rights advocates: How does the men's rights movement differ from gender egalitarianism, if at all?You're talking to someone who cannot distinguish between "women are oppressed" and "men are to blame for women being oppressed". Do you really think she can distinguish between honesty and dishonesty? I don't know if you've noticed this, but despite the large number of people who like to fawn over her videos, she isn't very smart. She constantly makes glaring intellectual mistakes and refuses to put forth effort to educate herself or gain a basic understanding of anything she is talking about. I… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 06:49 PM |
| 3 | Damsel in Distress: Part 3 - Tropes vs Women in Video GamesQuickest way to lose your credibility is to block all discussion/critique. You're right! That's why you aren't allowed to post in r/MensRights about it and criticize her---oh wait... (Also, scroll up and click the "other discussions" tab. This video is being discussed/critiqued all over reddit.) | /r/MensRights | 03/08/13 06:37 PM |
| 5 | Saw this post elsewhere, made me think about the feminism/MRA conflict. When there are problems, everyone should be interested in solving them, no matter who is affected.Their scholarship hasn't influenced a single law, policy, or dollar. I'll just do this for Kimberlé Crenshaw. It's your homework to read up on the contributions of the other listed feminists. Crenshaw has published numerous works including Words that Wound: Critical Race Theory, Assaultive Speech and the First Amendment. She was also the coeditor of Critical Race Theory: Key Documents That Shaped the Movement and her works have appeared in the Harvard Law Review, the National Black Law Journal, … | /r/MensRights | 13/07/13 09:05 PM |
| -1 | Can Men Talk About Feminism?How can I hold all this obtuse cuntery! Wow such bridge building | /r/MensRights | 07/07/13 07:09 PM |
| 0 | Can Men Talk About Feminism?Maybe feminists should consider not creating publicly funded campaigns targeted at men that closely resemble those targeted at Jews and Black people in history. This is rich coming from someone who likes to defend slavery. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/13 03:28 AM |
| 3 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?I don't think you read all of those wikipedia pages in 5 minutes. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 03:09 AM |
| 2 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?I assume that if a white slaveowner wanted to "breed" slaves, he or she would be forcing both a male and a female slave to have sex with each other. Ah! So you didn't bother to read anything I linked! Thanks for that admission. That was explicitly mentioned as something that happened on those wikipedia pages and in one of the bits I quoted. Conveniently bolded. Let me repeat that one sentence so you can read it, since you clearly missed it the first time: there were masters who, without any rega… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 03:02 AM |
| 0 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?being treated like your only value is your utility to others Oh, well if you rephrase what you said to that, then I don't have to disprove it. As demonstrated by what I quoted from wikipedia in my other comments, there have been women who were treated like their only value was their utility to others. In this rephrasing, it is your claim that women aren't treated this way that is false. This new interpretation of what you said doesn't make your overall argument sound. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:56 AM |
| 3 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?Are you claiming the only way to rape a person is via procreative sex? The bits I quoted talked about how black women slaves were raped for procreative reasons. So if you are claiming that black men were treated like chattel in the same way black women were, i.e. by being raped for procreative reasons, then non-procreative rape---while still a horrible thing to do---is not relevant. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:54 AM |
| 0 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?I never claimed that all slave classes occupied a privileged position. Okay then. Scratch the word "privileged" from my earlier argument. It wasn't an essential component of what I was saying. The rest of my argument holds: you made a universal statement, had it disproven, and are now trying to distract people so they don't notice the examples you cite are irrelevant. (∃x) φ(x) is not equivalent to (∀x) φ(x). | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:48 AM |
| 2 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?No doubt black men were raped as well. And this may blow your mind, but they likely were raped by white women too. So you are claiming that in the American South circa the 19th century, white women would birth mixed-race children and that this was common? | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:42 AM |
| 2 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?And you didn't even address other slave groups that were effectively "free" yet still functioned as a slave class--such as the Janissaries or the Mamaluks. What you said upthread was Do you know what all slave classes share in common? They have to earn their positive social identity through work. You made what is called a universal statement: you claimed every slave class has to earn this social identity through work. In order to demonstrate that your claim is false, it is sufficient to demonstr… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:40 AM |
| -1 | Rules of Feminism and AskFeministsWhat if we had a system where women were dominating over men? Would such a system, which is something commonly alleged as an end-goal of feminism by anti-feminists, be wrong? | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:34 AM |
| 3 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?So you're saying all the rape that went on had nothing to do with them being women? The systematic rape and breeding had nothing to do with their status of women? This treatment of them as chattel was completely unrelated to them being women? Really? Since it only has to do with them being black, then surely it's also the case that other black people were treated in the same way? Did white slaveowners rape male slaves in some disgusting attempt to increase their property ownings? | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:31 AM |
| 4 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?And what about the slaves who were owned by the state? Being owned by an institution of people is being owned by people. Dumbass. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:28 AM |
| -1 | MRA tells me, "Women have never been oppressed,"--any opinions?In certain cultures women used to be treated as chattel No they weren't. I'll just quote a bit from a relevant wikipedia page: Because of the power relationships of the institution, slave women in the United States were at high risk for rape and sexual abuse. Many slaves fought back against sexual attacks, and some died resisting. Others carried psychological and physical scars from the attacks. Sexual abuse of slaves was partially rooted in a patriarchal Southern culture which treated black wom… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 02:22 AM |
| -1 | Rules of Feminism and AskFeministsReddit has this really cool feature which allows you to edit a post after you've already submitted it. If you look right below your post, you'll see a few options. If you click the one labeled "edit", it will let you edit your post, even though it's already been submitted! | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 01:54 AM |
| 3 | Washington state changes 40,000+ words to pander to feminist standardsbut the laws aren't genderneutral despite this, you still need a penis to be labeled a rapist... I guess that all these women (all of them) must have penises. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/13 05:37 PM |
| 8 | Now the feminists want to control our erections and vasectomies. Do men get any say when it comes to our own sexual organs? (xpost from /r/politics)Oh, I don't play video games online because I don't like interacting with immature manchildren. Youtube videos are in the same boat. You should be glad I'm deigning to speak to you. Anyway, good job on showing that you and people like you are the sorts of terrible people who think comments about rape are acceptable. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/13 02:34 AM |
| 5 | Now the feminists want to control our erections and vasectomies. Do men get any say when it comes to our own sexual organs? (xpost from /r/politics)Bro, let me come clean with you. I actually am a man. I cannot think of a single time I have ever faced a rape threat over the internet. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/13 02:18 AM |
| 7 | Now the feminists want to control our erections and vasectomies. Do men get any say when it comes to our own sexual organs? (xpost from /r/politics)TIL that rape threats are not hostile. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/13 02:05 AM |
| 10 | Now the feminists want to control our erections and vasectomies. Do men get any say when it comes to our own sexual organs? (xpost from /r/politics)Thank you for admitting that many websites are hostile towards women. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/13 01:57 AM |
| 12 | Now the feminists want to control our erections and vasectomies. Do men get any say when it comes to our own sexual organs? (xpost from /r/politics)Why wouldn't it be. It is one of the top 5 online social hotspots, and, moreover, a male centric one. It's so hard being a man on the internet. Every website I go to, people assume I'm a woman by default. If they find out I'm a man, they say things like "dick pics or GTFO" and send me rape threats. It's really tough. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/13 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Went to see a shockingly misogynistic musical theater showAssume towards a contradiction that it is not possible to prove a negative (to be clear, I'm here using "negative" to mean a statement of the form ¬φ). In classical logic, every statement is logically equivalent to a negative: φ is equivalent to ¬¬φ. So if it is impossible to prove a negative, then it is impossible to prove anything. But clearly that is absurd: it is very possible to prove things. Contradiction. Hence, it must be possible to prove a negative. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/13 03:00 PM |
| 12 | Lefty feminism (collectivism) and right wing appropriation of feminism (you go girl, have it, all individualism, consumerism). The mens movement don't differentiate or seem to be able to tell the two apart. Should it or is it best to treat it as one entity?Im being presented with follower feminists who are so low in the movement, God, I really love this idea that feminism is this hierarchical thing. You get hired on at an entry-level feminism position, work hard for many years writing feminist blogs and if you are a hard-working feminist bee, then one day you might be promoted to regional director of feminism! Then you get to legislate misandry and edit "stastical [sic] data", but you have to do it secretly, so the lower-level feminists don't know… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/13 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Owning Your Shit: Okay, I really wasn't interested in doing this, but... | Karen (GirlWritesWhat) talks about The Wooly Bumblbee AVFM drama on her blog.Your username is at least halfways apt. Like sperm, you're kind of slimy and bitter and difficult to swallow without gagging, and you give me a rash when I come into extended contact with you. I don't know what sperm you've been trying to swallow, but something somewhere is wrong about it. I'll concede the sperm is typically slimy, but it's certainly not universally bitter and "difficult to swallow without gagging" seems to have at least as much to do with as you as it does the sperm. The point … | /r/MensRights | 18/06/13 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Girl Talk: I’m A Feminist, But I Think I Want To Date A More Traditional Dude [Hamster desperately tries to explain away her "desire to feel looked after and taken care of"]Even today, being caught walking in a children's park while male is enough to get police attention. Well no, that's not true. An 8 year old boy walking in a children's park probably won't attract police. Unless you're saying children can't be male, which would just be weird. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/06/13 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Is Feminism becoming more of a Conservative ideology, while Men's Rights is more Liberal and Progressive?I don't know you, so it's hard for me to have a strong opinion, but I'm sure that if I met you, I would hate you. You seem pretty stupid and like to make up stories about me. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/13 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Is Feminism becoming more of a Conservative ideology, while Men's Rights is more Liberal and Progressive?I'm not grapeban. I wasn't looking to prove their claims. I was just mocking the idea that anyone actually cares about anything the MRM has ever done (which isn't much, outside of harass some women and feminists). | /r/MensRights | 09/06/13 01:43 AM |
| -1 | Is Feminism becoming more of a Conservative ideology, while Men's Rights is more Liberal and Progressive?The MRM is very poor on social justice Any proof of this? I'd prefer something peer reviewed if possible. As if any one who writes peer-reviewed papers would spend time writing about something so ultimately inconsequential as the MRM... | /r/MensRights | 09/06/13 01:26 AM |
| -2 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"I'd say getting blown up sucks a lot more than having to move. Look again at the Clinton quote: Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Civilian casualties in war are not exclusive to men, idiot. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 09:52 PM |
| -8 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"What's wrong with Christina Hoff Summers? She's a libertarian. 'Nuff said. Also, you cannot differentiate between patriarchy and men. Feminists can and do. You cannot condemn feminists when the problem here is your inability to understand even a minor measure of subtlety. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 08:42 PM |
| -4 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"It says that I don't want to waste my time arguing with a stupid misogynist who doesn't even have the decency to try to hide it. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 08:41 PM |
| -3 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"The sheer amount of crap we've all been forced to put up with regarding Fifty Shades of Grey, the fucking Kardashians, ex Disney starlets going on drug fueled shoplifting sprees, and Angelina Jolie's double masectomy show that the US doesn't even match this last point. Wow but you're a misogynist. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 08:37 PM |
| -6 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"Oh my god. You are so fucking stupid. What is this I don't even. Let me try the same argument technique: And yes, I think the entire concept of the Holocaust is either a projection of some Jews' inability to reconcile that they have a desire to be dominated by nazis; or a paired symptom of EJB (Extreme Jewish Brain), described by researchers as the opposite end of the spectrum to ENB (Extreme Nazi Brain). ENB results in highly systemizing brains with truncated social cognition--autism spectrum d… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 08:35 PM |
| -5 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"Five influential feminists. Two influential feminists and three not-so-influential feminists. And none of them have been influential for several decades. Is the best you can do really to criticize feminism circa 1980? Good job, you managed to do something feminists did 20--30 years ago. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 08:20 PM |
| -5 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"Yo. Do you even google? Edit: x2 combo bonus definition! | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 08:08 PM |
| -5 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"Wow. You cited five whole feminists, some of them out of context, and none of the quotes made in the last 20 years. That clearly shows that all feminists hate men. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 08:01 PM |
| 0 | If you call a tail a leg; an old riddle for a modern discussionPatriarchy theory is the core of established feminism Patriarchy theory isn't a real thing. Seriously, look at the results for a google search on "patriarchy theory". You don't see links to well-cited feminist literature in this search. Instead you see things like a TyphonBlue video and an AVFM wiki page. The fifth result for me was a reddit post from a couple months ago criticizing the MRA usage of "patriarchy theory". It points out, as is easily seen, that the term is something invented by MRA… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 02:58 PM |
| 1 | If you call a tail a leg; an old riddle for a modern discussionfeminism has core beliefs. By what means does one determine the core beliefs of feminism? It seems to me that this is not a simple problem. If it were simple, then we would expect to see broader agreement on what these core beliefs are. However, we don't see that, suggesting that getting at the core beliefs of a collection of thoughts and movement as broad and diverse as feminism is not something you should just gloss over. Follow up point: people who have shown they don't understand feminist be… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 02:52 PM |
| 0 | If you call a tail a leg; an old riddle for a modern discussionLinking to a bunch of shitty youtube videos and blog posts isn't "broadly cited"... Dumbass. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/13 02:43 PM |
| 0 | doesn't get much more absurd than this, fellas.Citing an accomplished medical researcher on the state of medical research is an SRS thing now? Is Ioannidis a crypto-SRSter? | /r/MensRights | 30/05/13 01:41 PM |
| -3 | doesn't get much more absurd than this, fellas.The first step is not to look at the results and ask, "what biases inform these results"? The paper I linked you to (I don't expect you to do more than read the abstract and scan it, but you really ought to at least look at it for more than a few seconds) started by looking at results. Specifically, it started with noticing the fact that these results were wrong and asking what caused the results? What flaw in reasoning---one might say bias---informed these (wrong) results? What is wrong about t… | /r/MensRights | 30/05/13 03:00 AM |
| -10 | doesn't get much more absurd than this, fellas.You're totally right. It's much better to judge all reality by feels. That isn't even remotely what I said. Please don't lie about what I said. You realize that the cultural narrative that MGM is just peachy and totally beneficial informs "research" that is just as biased as anything you might cite, right? I do realize that. That is in fact something I have brought up in the past when arguing that we oughtn't mutilate infants. I agree with Ioannidis's argument that misapplication of statistics l… | /r/MensRights | 30/05/13 02:13 AM |
| -13 | doesn't get much more absurd than this, fellas.So basically what you're saying is that "medically constructed" knowledge (that is, empiricism) is merely an extension of "feels". Relevant to this conversation is the established fact that the medical literature is stuffed full of published results that are wrong. As in the claims they are making are not true. See e.g. this widely cited paper by a researcher in medicine. This of course is not sufficient to establish that medical knowledge is just based on feelings (not that Spermjack Attack was… | /r/MensRights | 30/05/13 12:27 AM |
| 0 | Fucking SRS, dude...Well your efforts and projects don't seem to be worth much, so you wouldn't have to value how you look very much to make it worth more. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 11:31 PM |
| 0 | Fucking SRS, dude...I'm not saying that you are wrong to post the screenshots or that you oughtn't call out amr on "brigading" r/mensrights. I'm saying that doing it as much as you do makes you look paranoid. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 11:22 PM |
| -1 | Fucking SRS, dude...It's more that you seem to be linking to every amr post which links to r/mensrights. You don't see amr linking to everything on r/mensrights. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Fucking SRS, dude...Bro, you need to stop linking to amr. It makes you look paranoid. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 04:27 AM |
| 1 | Feminist has children, turns down top job because it "would have meant 60-plus hour workweeks." She then decides it is "industry's responsibility to change the definition of leadership jobs so that woI am not entirely sure where you are getting these ideas? The deep misogynistic recesses of his bowels, I believe. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 03:48 AM |
| -5 | Is it fair to say that our society is dripping with misandry?No. No it is not. That would be a stupid thing to say. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/13 04:34 AM |
| 1 | If language affects perception, what is the effect of phrases like "toxic masculinity", "hegemonic masculinity" and patriarchy?the acknowledgement that there are two bodies Spermjack Attack argued that there are not two bodies in a meaningful sense. Again, you confuse people disagreeing with you with people being dishonest. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/13 06:07 AM |
| 1 | If language affects perception, what is the effect of phrases like "toxic masculinity", "hegemonic masculinity" and patriarchy?Your grasp of the current conversation is poor, which casts doubt upon how well you understood the previous conversation. You have confused me disagreeing with you and you taking a paragraph to argue your point with me making your point for you. You are making your own points. Edit: let me put this another way. Making an argument you disagree with is not the same as making an argument which undermines itself. Not every argument you disagree with is incoherent. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/13 05:31 AM |
| 1 | If language affects perception, what is the effect of phrases like "toxic masculinity", "hegemonic masculinity" and patriarchy?"I don't think it's fair" is not a rational argument - it's whining. It wasn't an argument. It was a statement of my view, followed by an argument for it. Do you understand that you just told the reader you think it's okay to be dishonest in a discussion if it works in your favor? I did not say that. What I said was that Spermjack Attack was trying to enforce limits on certain topics of discussion by explicitly arguing that they were irrelevant. Although you clearly disagree with their argument,… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/13 05:21 AM |
| 1 | If language affects perception, what is the effect of phrases like "toxic masculinity", "hegemonic masculinity" and patriarchy?I did remember the conversation. I remember that it covered a fair number of facets of abortion. I wanted to know which part you were referring to. Thank you for the response. In the case you mention, I don't think it is fair to say that Spermjack Attack was using terminology to limit the topic of conversation. They were trying to limit the topic of conversation, but they were very explicit about it and not doing so through the usage of jargon. They were just explaining that the argument for abo… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/13 05:03 AM |
| 1 | If language affects perception, what is the effect of phrases like "toxic masculinity", "hegemonic masculinity" and patriarchy?Could you be more specific with your criticism? What jargon was deployed? How did it "direct attention in the discussion away from part of the subject matter"? What part of the subject matter was it directing attention away from? Why is this part essential or important? How did this manipulate the reader? | /r/MensRights | 25/05/13 04:37 AM |
| 1 | If language affects perception, what is the effect of phrases like "toxic masculinity", "hegemonic masculinity" and patriarchy?I've also seen her use the very thing I've described in that post - the use of terminology to try to shape the perception of a concept. That is a desirable trait of jargon. (To be clear, I'm using "jargon" in the meaning of technical terminology, in particular for an academic discipline. This differs from the more colloquial definition, tinged with negativity, of "obtuse or obscure language exclusive to a group". As an aside, this fits nicely with the theme of this thread: the understanding of "… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/13 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Seriously, why do women receive lighter sentences than men for similar or worse offenses?That is a terrible strategy. Arguing that X is bad and harmful and fighting to end it would be an ineffectual way to hold onto X. Are you suggesting that the entirety of feminism and feminists would fail to notice this obvious fact? That would be necessary for your scenario to be true. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/13 02:54 AM |
| 0 | Did you know men gang rape women because they are secretly gay? That gay men & Feminism can never be allies because gays believe in "universal phallic access"? See such batshit crazy ramblings froCrosshook, heterosexuality and cisgenderism are not the same thing. Don't conflate them. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 02:55 PM |
| 1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tSo you accept that one's parents may influence one into racist views, but you don't think society can... Okay... After you get too many people together, does it start being impossible to influence people? Where is the line drawn? Could it be that my parents and my fourth grade teacher taught me racist ideals? What about my parents and fourth grade teacher and grandparents? Parents and fourth grade teacher and grandparents and pastor and television shows? At what point does this become "society" … | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 03:08 PM |
| 1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tThey're relevant in the context of history, they are not relevant in the context of racial dynamics today. You say that like all those things happened far in the past. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 02:57 PM |
| 1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tDude, you still need to work on your reading comprehension. This isn't very difficult. Spermjack_attack was claiming that the discussion shouldn't center around slavery. Stop attacking people for mentioning slavery when they are responding to the argument of the OP, who is the one who brought up slavery. She's claiming that somehow white men are guilty of racism even if they never engage in racist behavior. Well, the claim is that people who engage in racist behavior are guilty of racism. As rac… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 02:45 PM |
| 1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tEven if not all white people are elite, it still is important to note that the elite are overwhelmingly white. Feminists often do declare that all men are privileged. I don't think you understand male privilege. It isn't an individual thing. That is, male privilege does not mean that every individual man will be treated better by those around him. Rather, it's about what we see as default and what we value societally or culturally. For example, take the usage of the word "man" to mean "human" or… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 02:41 PM |
| 2 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tThat might be because engineering students are generally rather stupid. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 12:45 AM |
| -1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tDude, I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. Spermjack_attack was saying that since slavery is not the only form of racism in the US, one oughtn't say "I didn't own slaves, ergo I am not racist". You then turn around and say that nearly verbatim, completely missing the point. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 12:41 AM |
| 0 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tLook in the mirror. That's a racist. I'll fully admit that. Part of living in a racist society is that you pick up racist views. It would be absurd to think that I've managed to excise every racist thought I've ever picked up. Oh wait, you were saying I'm racist against white people. Lol. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 12:33 AM |
| 1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tIt's not because the elite are white men that all white men are elite. I don't think all white men are elite, nor do very many feminists, so I don't see your point. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 12:28 AM |
| -3 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tHow is any of this relevant? Slavery in the United States was not a case in which the slaves ruled. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 03:01 AM |
| -1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tDid you just link me to your own video? Wow so convincing. Edit: It's funny because you think what happened in the Ottoman empire is relevant to slavery in America! | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 02:44 AM |
| 2 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tYou should read this. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 02:37 AM |
| -1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tAre you confusing me saying that most books/movies/tv shows don't contain a trope with me not recognizing the trope itself? To bring it back to your original point, are you saying that the people who have power in society are the people who don't even have the power to protect their own bodies? Are you really fucking saying that? | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 02:31 AM |
| 1 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tMost books and tv shows don't have people being "saved". With regard to video games, is this what you are talking about? | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 02:24 AM |
| 0 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tMost films don't have people being "saved"... | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 02:18 AM |
| 3 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tWell, yes. For example, in Star Wars Episode VI, Luke Skywalker (a white man) saves Han Solo (another white man). | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 01:53 AM |
| 5 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tSo the far more powerful elite are... white men? | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 12:36 AM |
| 3 | In a debate about discrimination in class, I am called a "White Hetero-Male" in order to "prove" that I am incapable of understanding the issue. No one blinks at the insult, and I am given a warning tAt best white men were/are house slaves to a far more powerful elite. Who make up this far more powerful elite? | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 12:18 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentI know. It's almost as if I replied to you to fuel your paranoia. Or maybe I'm just a sockpuppet. Who can even tell? | /r/MensRights | 15/05/13 02:26 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentDude, are you really resorting to accusing us of all being sockpuppets of one person? | /r/MensRights | 15/05/13 02:10 AM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentYou are just incapable of admitting that you are responsible for misreading a short comment. You insist on placing the blame on other people. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/13 01:10 AM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought Experimentit would have been more clear had it been in place of the initial sentence It is common for citations to be placed after quotes. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/13 12:52 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought Experimentthe grassroots of the abortion movement advocates without any real understanding that this is what they're supporting. If you claim that Gosnell is representative of the "abortion movement", then it seems only fair to also require the anti-abortion movement to be responsible for its acts of violence. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/13 12:45 AM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentHey, in that comment, spermjack_attack included this below the quote: Raven, Johnson, Losos, Mason, and Singer (2008) Biology, McGraw Hill Did you not see this citation? | /r/MensRights | 15/05/13 12:36 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentDude, having a large number of links to shitty websites doesn't make your argument stronger. Honestly, it just makes you look kind of desperate. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:48 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentNow add the fact that the violinist is holding a man's stolen credit card to pay for the procedure. Does the man have the right to take his credit card back? I think the answer to this lies in the context of the scenario, specifically the possibility and feasibility of alternatives. If the scenario is such that there is a decently easy alternative (e.g. if most healthcare was publicly funded) to the man paying, then it would be immoral to not let the man take his credit card back. If in the scen… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:31 AM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentGod that link writer is unnecessarily verbose with their bad arguments. Can't you link to someone less enamored with their own words and with more thought-out positions? Take as a representative example this paragraph: The characteristics of a living organism are clearly defined by the scientific community. These standards are used for many things besides this argument. Application of these standards is the method by which it is determined whether a new discovery is a living organism, a dead org… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:15 AM |
| 2 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentOh, I was mostly arguing for a moral right to abortion, not for precedent in the American legal system. My reasoning is that if abortion is moral, then it ought also be legal. Details of the American legal system may be important in how to implement legalization of abortion, but I don't think they are necessary to argue for the morality (and hence legality) of abortion. If bodily autonomy is something we give moral weight, then it is relevant to the moral argument for abortion, regardless of its… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:01 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentLet me repeat the second sentence of my previous (three sentence) comment: How does the "scientific" criteria for what constitutes a distinct organism apply to fetuses? You have not demonstrated that a fetus is an organism distinct from the body which hosts it. What is the "scientific criteria" for how to differentiate the two distinct organisms? Can we point to specific physical place and find the border? When does this first occur? Is it immediately at conception? Which step in the complex pro… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:57 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentCancer cells are living human cells, which would die if taken from the rest of the human body, much like a fetus. How does the "scientific" criteria for what constitutes a distinct organism apply to fetuses? Why are they different from cases that would appear similar? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:47 AM |
| 4 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentDo you need to demonstrate a medical necessity in order to get an abortion? If not, then it is nothing more than a boob job or a face lift. Did you just compare abortion to cosmetic surgery? Do you think pregnancy is just a matter of physical appearance? Now here's the kicker- if the rights of the mother trump the rights of the clump of cells, then why don't the rights of the father trump the rights of the clump of cells as well? Regardless of how one feels about whether males[1] have a right to… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:45 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentLet us demonstrate logic. That is the most pompous use of the singular we I've seen. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:33 AM |
| 4 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentYour argument assumed that a fetus is a person. As long as you are just boldly asserting such controversial claims without even the awareness that it needs argument, there's nothing to say to you. You clearly have not thought about the issue in an objective manner and considered it from multiple angles. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:27 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentYou can't stick to a basis for your arguments. Um, I was making a different argument from the one in the OP. I don't think multiple arguments existing for abortion is a "problem with the pro-choice argument in general". | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:17 AM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentIn many cancer treatments, you are killing living human cells. Unless you can demonstrate that a fetus is a "being" as you put it, in addition to further showing that fetuses are living (as if anyone would claim otherwise...), you have not shown that abortion is not comparable to other medical treatments. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:15 AM |
| 2 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentI find it funny that you are criticizing spermjack_attack for feigning confusion in light of ddxxdd's comment here: On the other hand, this is a great way to have a discussion with a feminist, start out like you're supportive of feminist thought, and then throw a massive MRA curveball at them. It's practically the only way for them to see things our way. If being dishonest about your viewpoints is wrong---pathological even!---then why are you not also calling out ddxxdd for it? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:09 AM |
| -1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought Experiment"suffering" is a strange word to use for pregnancy, as "treatment" is for abortion. It's only strange because of how abortion has become such a moralized issue in our society. If it were not moralized, and was considered purely a medical treatment, then it would not appear unusual. And no, you shouldn't be denied treatment for a broken leg, but neither should you have special provisions made for you because of it. I am not arguing for special provisions. Similarly, the argument that abortion as … | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 03:54 AM |
| 2 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentYou're style hasn't changed. This is pathological. That word. I don't think you know what it means. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 03:44 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentExcept in extremely rare cases, you don't just "wake up" pregnant. You have to have engaged in sexual activity first, in full knowledge that you MAY just end up pregnant. You have failed to show that engaging in sex in consenting to being pregnant. Before you make the obvious rejoinder that pregnancy can be a potential consequence of sex, remember that there are actions people can take to prevent this. For example, they could use condoms, or take contraceptives, or engage in sex without risk of … | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Took a dive into 'AgainstMensRights'In an effort to make your subreddit appear less hostile, you belittle and badger someone and accuse them of being a liar.... You do realize that undermines what you are trying to show, correct? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/13 12:53 AM |
| -1 | A Critique of the Men's Rights MovementWe want to destroy feminism and replace it with gender egalitarianism in which men and women are treated identically by our government for all intents and purposes. I find it despicable that you are okay with men being mistreated so long as it isn't the government doing it. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/13 04:35 AM |
| 2 | "Why Is There a Hookup Culture?": Young women are under feminist pressure to show that they couldn't care less about forming an exclusive, let alone permanent, relationship with a man.I actually did not know what GWW was talking about. I honestly thought that she did not understand that humans didn't exist two million years ago. But maybe this is because her explanation for her language comes off as post hoc, as if she's trying to justify her misuse of verbiage after the fact. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/13 04:07 AM |
| -1 | "Why Is There a Hookup Culture?": Young women are under feminist pressure to show that they couldn't care less about forming an exclusive, let alone permanent, relationship with a man.Because "human" is easier to type than "our hominid ancestors" or "the ancestors of humans" So you used inaccurate and wrong terminology because it was "easier to type". Wow. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/13 03:03 PM |
| -1 | "Why Is There a Hookup Culture?": Young women are under feminist pressure to show that they couldn't care less about forming an exclusive, let alone permanent, relationship with a man.So what you are saying is that you invented the term "tournament harem". Gotcha. And humans did evolve from an ancestral species. Chimpanzees and humans share a common ancestor that lived about 6 million years ago. If this common ancestor is not a human (which it isn't), then why refer to it as human? | /r/MensRights | 10/05/13 02:30 PM |
| 1 | "Why Is There a Hookup Culture?": Young women are under feminist pressure to show that they couldn't care less about forming an exclusive, let alone permanent, relationship with a man.tournament harems What is a tournament harem? The top results from a google search were videos of some video game, an ESPN page about golf, and something about another video game. So it looks like what humans were doing a couple million years ago From wikipedia: Archaic Homo sapiens, the forerunner of anatomically modern humans, evolved between 400,000 and 250,000 years ago. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/13 02:11 AM |
| -4 | How can a person like this represent /r/LGBT?Its not up for discussion that feminists have different rules for men and women, its not something that needs to by proven. If it does not need to be proven, how do you know it's true? If it is already proven, then couldn't you just provide a reference to where it was proven? | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 06:29 PM |
| -4 | How can a person like this represent /r/LGBT?A list of assertions (without argument) about unrelated ways feminists are mean nasty harpies does not prove that feminists would be upset if the genders were reversed. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 06:25 PM |
| -4 | How can a person like this represent /r/LGBT?You keep asserting that it is a fact but you have provided absolutely no explanation or argument. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 06:05 PM |
| -4 | How can a person like this represent /r/LGBT?Its fact. My assertion is that it is not fact. For example, here is a book by a feminist partially about how the idea that men must be big and strong, that they shouldn't have emotional vulnerabilites or rely upon others, is harmful to men. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 05:53 PM |
| -5 | How can a person like this represent /r/LGBT?I don't think you read what I wrote. I explained the relevance of their gender, and it's not what you think I think it is. I don't think we can move on to address the issue of how you think all feminists must hold a certain very specific view as long as you demonstrate such a blatant inability to read four sentences. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 05:44 PM |
| -3 | How can a person like this represent /r/LGBT?This is why you retards would get up in arms if people were making the same jokes involving women. And I pointed out that spermjack_attack is a man to say that this is not a case of me getting up in arms because people were saying similar things about women. I was preempting the obvious rejoinder to my post. Also, you should stop using the word "retard" (regardless of the gender of the person you are speaking to). It's rather offensive. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 05:38 PM |
| -5 | How can a person like this represent /r/LGBT?If spermjack_attack's gender is irrelevant, then why did you bring up women when talking about feminists getting "up in arms" about sarcasm? I'm confused why you both brought in gender and claimed gender is not relevant. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 05:33 PM |
| -1 | How can a person like this represent /r/LGBT?You sexist retards I know that you are going to claim that you said this sarcastically, so that if someone pointed out you said it, you could then use that as "proof" that feminists get "up in arms" at sarcasm directed towards women. Fortunately, I happen to know that spermjack_attack is in fact a man, so if you were to respond that way, it would be a non sequitur. That said, it's pathetic that you sink to this level of petty vileness in an attempt to attack feminists. Is this the kind of discou… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 05:26 PM |
| 2 | How does one respond to violent MRA posts/arguments?"Popular Feminist Graffiti" is a prominent feminist academic? | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 03:15 AM |
| -3 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womencfornax claimed that putting oneself in a man's shoes would make it obvious why it is offensive to say "tell men not to rape". But this is clearly not true, as you just argued, because there are many men who do not think it is offensive. Thank you for arguing my point for me. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/13 02:24 PM |
| -2 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenThere needs to be a Male Perspective of gender dynamics in our current society and how things should operate. There is a men's perspective on gender; many gender theorists are men. The problem here is that since most of them are also feminists, you say that their perspective isn't a true men's perspective. Which you think because (as seen here and in other comments of yours) you don't think feminists can be men. The problem here is that you want to limit "Male Perspective" to meaning the perspec… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 11:56 PM |
| -2 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenWell it's also a bad comparison, insofar as slavery and "tell men not to rape" are not remotely the same. But I suppose I shouldn't expect you to be intelligent enough to recognize that. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenYou feminists sit in your ivory towers of privilege telling men who have been genitally mutilated, institutionally discriminated against since birth, and demonized by the very ideology you espouse, that we are the ones who are privileged. Whoa whoa whoa now, you seem to be assuming that feminists and men are disjoint groups, that no feminists are men. This is false. How can I both sit in an ivory tower of privilege and be institutionally discriminated against and demonized by that same tower? | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 11:46 PM |
| -2 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenI did not say that the courses were about men because they are men, I said the courses incorporate the perspective of men. Those are clearly not the same thing. I also did not say that incorporating the perspective of men necessarily requires we not incorporate the perspective of women, so the solution would not be e.g. a women's history course. I am just pointing out that CrossHook's lamentation that the educational system ignores the perspective of men has no basis in reality. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 02:21 PM |
| -2 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenWow, that's an offensive comparison. Good job on making yourself look clueless with regard to issues of race. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 02:17 PM |
| 2 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womencupcake I love that you've taken to calling feminists this. <3 | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 04:34 AM |
| -3 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenI am a man and I do not find "teach men not to rape" to be insulting or oppressive to men or my gender. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 04:33 AM |
| 2 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenThey should because that could mean that sexual preference is something that's "built not born". I am bisexual, I think sexuality is socially constructed, and I'm neither nervous nor afraid of that viewpoint. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 04:27 AM |
| -10 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenSo... pretty much any other class then? Classes like "what dead men did when they were alive" (history) or "what men wrote" (literature) or "what men painted" (art history) or "what men thought about living things" (biology) or etc. I am not claiming that none of those classes also incorporate the perspective of women, but it is very very silly to say that the ignore they perspective of men. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Feminist Reaction to the tragic death of Earl Silverman on Salon.Dude, of course modern bloggers aren't going to write articles attacking feminists who have been criticized for a few decades now. It wouldn't be remotely novel nor interesting content. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 01:54 AM |
| 2 | Whiteknight feminist claims "what MRAs see as men's issues are really quasi-straight men's issues." Thoughts?And another aside, although this may be TMI: yes having your anus entered is ungodly painful. That's why I generally don't do it even though I'm a red-blooded 100% cock-loving faggot. Oh my god, thanks for making my point for me! The AVFM author quoted in the blog post talks about the pain of anal rape as being worse for straight men, when that is clearly not the case. What is interesting is that the author could only make this mistake if he didn't speak very much to gay men. If he did, then he … | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 01:53 PM |
| 1 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?Eh, I'm not sure that this conversation could go anywhere else. Once it became clear that you were going to cleave to your transphobia without even a hint of self-reflection, I think the conversation ended. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 04:04 AM |
| 1 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?Normally we call this "arguing semantics" and it isn't normally considered a very valid or strong argument against a position. Damn straight I'm arguing about semantics, i.e. the meaning of words. Of course I'm against using words without regard to their meaning. If someone started using the word "utility" to mean "ability to make money," I wouldn't flip the fuck out just because I'm so used to utility having a specific definition in my chosen field. The thing is, there is an actual history of p… | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 04:03 AM |
| 2 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?I agree. I don't think not wanting to date a trans-woman is anywhere near that example. At all. it is far more akin to not wanting to date an Arab because I don't find Arabs attract5ive for whatever reason... I, for one, would not want to date a trans-woman. I am not attracted to a woman having a penis or a woman who used to be a man. Doesn't do it for me, for whatever reason. It's not for whatever reason, it's because you are transphobic. If you are just open about that, then your problems will… | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 03:58 AM |
| 1 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?I'm saying a couple things: His misuage of the word "topological" made it look like he doesn't know what he's talking about, as he was using the word incorrectly. For someone who does know what topology is, the misuse is confusing. Is he trying to draw some connection to actual concepts in topology? Is this supposed to be the same thing as when we say things like "a cube is topologically a sphere"? If your writing is harder to understand when people know about the things you are talking about, t… | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 03:54 AM |
| 0 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?YOU are associating it with some sort of moral value. No one else has yet to. Actually, you just did that a few lines up: He was commenting that, in reality, people do care. And they have every right to care, right or wrong. Overcoming their caring will not be done by ignoring it. You are saying that people place value on "biological" gender. Anyway, I'm not saying that people don't hate transgender people and not want to associate with them. What I am saying is that Geohump's strategy for trans… | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 03:46 AM |
| 1 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?A couple of physicists wrote a book about certain groups in the social sciences misusing language from mathematics and the physical sciences. You should give it a read. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 03:34 AM |
| 2 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?I'm implying that the essentialization of "biological" gender over everything else is deployed to tell transgender people that their identities are worth less than those of cisgender people. The idea of "biological" gender is always associated with some sort of moral value---cisgenderism is the natural, right choice, while transgenderism, while not necessarily bad per se, is inferior. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 03:32 AM |
| 2 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?I'm done. I don't waste time on people who look for hate from people who support them, because they report and observe what is really happening objectively My point is that you don't truly support transgender people. You support them doing specific things to protect cisgender people being allowed to refuse to have contact with transgender people (which is really what the whole "disclosure" thing is about). You don't support them, because your arguments for what strategies they should take center… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 06:10 PM |
| 1 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?topology is the study of surfaces and shapes. No, that is not true. While there are parts of topology that are very geometric in nature, that is only part. Even then, those parts aren't the "study of surfaces and shapes". That would be something much more general. Please stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. It's confusing when you use words completely at odds with their agreed-upon meanings. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 06:05 PM |
| 1 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?You claim that the actions taken by transgender people lead to societal oppression of transgender people, which also goes by the name transphobia. You claim that these actions will create "open hate and hostility". I do refer to the existing problems of discrimination transgender people face and that although it will be harder AND DANGEROUS to practice a policy to total disclosure, it is going to be the faster path to reducing said discrimination. Earlier you said Living publicly, transgendered,… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 05:39 PM |
| 3 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?That is not what topological means. Read the linked Wikipedia article, it might help you. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 05:33 PM |
| 0 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?A relationship based on deception is an extraordinarily cruel thing to do to someone, especially someone you ostensibly like/love. It's remarkably selfish to not disclose that information. People ought proactively inform their romantic/sexual partners when they are transphobic or would refuse to knowingly have sex with a transgender person. A relationship based on deception is an extraordinarily cruel thing to do to someone, especially someone you ostensibly like/love. It's remarkably selfish to… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 04:55 PM |
| -1 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?No, I didn't know what he meant. Topological --> Top --> Surface. What do the arrows mean? What does "Top" mean? | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 04:48 PM |
| 2 | I am a Female to Male Transgendered person and I plan on transitioning to being physically male as soon as I'm reasonably able to. Is there a place for someone like me in /r/mensrights?But your issues that derive from being a genetic female who is presenting as a topological male, will be better understood in a transgender forum In what sense are you using the word "topological"? I can not see the connection to how the word is usually used. In fact, it just sounds like nonsense in the context of your post. The only path to success is to be upfront about being a transgendered, topological male. This sentence just reeks of cisgender privilege. People have good reasons to not alw… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Moderator on /r/lgbt laughs and says misandry is not real.Since heterophobia don't real, they can't be very heterophobic. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 05:01 AM |
| 2 | Whisper comments brilliantly on why /r/TheRedPill exists (a subreddit for the discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men)They oppress his grumpy bone :P | /r/MensRights | 26/04/13 07:33 PM |
| 6 | Whisper comments brilliantly on why /r/TheRedPill exists (a subreddit for the discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men)The vast majority of MRAs hate any discussion of game theory. Is that really what PUAs call it, game theory? Do they know that's already a real thing? | /r/MensRights | 26/04/13 02:30 PM |
| 3 | I made the mistake of trying posting a reasonable comment on r/feminism. Here is the post and their downvote reaction to my posts that I thought were reasonable./r/feminisms is a blatantly man hating shithole filled with emotionally damaged cunts You probably shouldn't call women cunts, especially if you're accusing them of gender-based hatred. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 02:02 AM |
| -1 | It took me all day to formulate the words I've been looking for to describe MRA effectively.Oh look, a feminist making false accusations, what a surprise. Oh look, a backhanded accusation that feminists commonly falsely accuse men of rape. Isn't this a false accusation of false accusations? | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 02:22 PM |
| -1 | It took me all day to formulate the words I've been looking for to describe MRA effectively.As you are someone who doesn't think condescendingly dismissing women and their concerns is misogynistic (see previous conversations), I don't think you are the best one to make that argument. You don't think woman-hating exists in the MRM not because it doesn't exist, but because you refuse to acknowledge it. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Feminists discuss Male Circumcision and the MRMIt seems that they don't teach spelling in Womyn's Studees. I don't have a degree in Womyn's Studees. Or even taken classes in a Women's Studies or Gender Studies department. My degree is in math. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 12:43 AM |
| -2 | Feminists discuss Male Circumcision and the MRMSo now you're claiming that talking about the reproductive abuse men face at the hands of women is inherently misogynistic? Gott im Himmel but you're bad at reading. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 12:42 AM |
| 1 | MRA vs feminist (comparison)You remembered what I said a week ago about referring to people you think are women as "cupcakes"! :D I'm so happy my comment stood out in your mind. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 12:39 AM |
| 0 | MRA vs feminist (comparison)I don't think being like r/atheism ought be a goal for anyone. Even r/atheism. Especially r/atheism. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 12:37 AM |
| 5 | MRA vs feminist (comparison)This post makes a very deep and subtle---yet important---point. Its well argued and carefully considered opinions have fundamentally changed my conceptualization of the Men's Rights Movement. It is well worth your time to read. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/13 04:25 AM |
| 0 | Feminists discuss Male Circumcision and the MRMthe conclusion I draw from the article is it supports FGM as well The blog post pretty explicitly says it does not support FGM or circumcision. For the same reasons. within a society which limits religious and cultural practices in favor for liberal rights, the individual religious and cultural rights of parents may be legitimately curtailed in favor of rights of bodily autonomy of a child. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/13 04:14 AM |
| 0 | Feminist claims that rape is worse than murder - effectively supports euthanizing rape victims.In this place people are actually allowed to speak freely. If people are allowed to speak freely, then surely that means I am allowed to voice discontent with the usage of racial slurs. Or is that speech not free? | /r/MensRights | 16/04/13 03:20 AM |
| 0 | Feminist claims that rape is worse than murder - effectively supports euthanizing rape victims.taking the statement to it's [sic] obvious conclusion Explain how it is obvious. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/13 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Feminism finally shooting itself in the foot. Affirmative action harming women, black woman basically says to check your privilege.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution This page is really long... Evolution must be stupid and ludicrous... | /r/MensRights | 13/04/13 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Feminist claims that rape is worse than murder - effectively supports euthanizing rape victims.nigga Stay classy. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/13 04:10 PM |
| 0 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!"The Schopenhauer"? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!I'm not the only one who thinks dismissing women and their concerns by referring to them as "cupcakes" looks misogynistic. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 11:25 PM |
| -1 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!And I accept your apology for spouting misogyny. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 11:23 PM |
| 0 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!If you are too lazy to even check Wikipedia, then I don't see why I should help you. You clearly have no actual desire to learn anything. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!Do you not care if the MRM comes off as misogynistic? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!I'm not claiming that Nietzsche's and Schopenhauer's philosophic work is incorrect. I'm claiming they are misogynists. Their misogyny is very relevant to whether they are misogynists... | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 02:30 PM |
| -1 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!I'm not. Go to the Wikipedia page on intersectionality and read a little bit about the history of the idea. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 11:59 PM |
| -1 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!Go to the wikipedia page on intersectionality. If you cannot be assed to even look at wikipedia, I don't know why I should for you. Because that is the entirety of any citation I would provide. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 11:58 PM |
| -3 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!It's worth noting that Nietzsche was also a bit of a misogynist, as is quite clear if you've read much of his stuff, so citing Nietzsche as proof Schopenhauer isn't misogynistic is not convincing. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 11:55 PM |
| -1 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!(And also a connection between racism and capitalism.) Are you trying to imply there is not a connection between racism and capitalism? Because if so, you should know you are very wrong. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 11:53 PM |
| -1 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!The statement that no theoretical framework is needed is the statement that understanding how oppression and discrimination functions in society is not needed. How is saying "we don't need to understand things! That's for nerds!" anything but anti-intellectual? | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 11:53 PM |
| -3 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!Good job. You linked to some very misogynistic writing... You're really convincing me you don't hate women! Women are directly fitted for acting as the nurses and teachers of our early childhood by the fact that they are themselves childish, frivolous and short-sighted; in a word, they are big children all their life long--a kind of intermediate stage between the child and the full-grown man, who is man in the strict sense of the word... And since women exist in the main solely for the propagati… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 02:56 PM |
| -9 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!The statement that no theoretical framework is needed is anti-intellectual. Typhonblue wasn't speaking against a specific theoretical framework, she was speaking against theoretical frameworks in general. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 02:52 PM |
| -7 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!Intersectionality was developed by feminists of color. Stop erasing the contributions of non-white people. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 02:47 PM |
| -11 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!Then the question is just an assertion of anti-intellectualism. That's even worse than how I read it. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 02:37 PM |
| 4 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!The cupcake says that men's rights just want equality, When you refer to people you think are women as "cupcakes", it makes the MRM seem misogynistic. Because that sort of dismissal of women and their concerns has a history of misogynistic use. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 02:35 PM |
| -2 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!There is a theoretical framework to the civil rights movement. Have you never read anything by e.g. W.E.B Du Bois? | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 02:09 PM |
| 7 | "Are you a woman who is worried about the idea of men sexually watching you shower? We totally understand. Are you a man who is worried about the idea of men sexually watching you shower? WOW GROW THEYou keep reducing homophobia (and racism) to people's psychological state, for example with do not have ANY hatred in their hearts By doing this, you are denying the fact that these occur on a societal level, not just a personal level. Oppression exists on the societal level. For example, take the modern institution of marriage---not just the legal aspects, but also the social and cultural. The way the modern institution of marriage is organized, even with the expanding legalization of same-sex … | /r/MensRights | 04/04/13 01:28 AM |
| 7 | "Are you a woman who is worried about the idea of men sexually watching you shower? We totally understand. Are you a man who is worried about the idea of men sexually watching you shower? WOW GROW THEI'm of the opinion that homophobic people are morally bad people and society should not coddle them. I of course don't think they should be thrown in jail just for being bigoted asswads. However, I do think it's absurd to think that we should protect them and their bigotry. If they are too homophobic to function in society---because we won't hide our gays so the homophobe can avoid the discomfort of having to be around those they find so vile---then the impetus is upon them to change. The rest o… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/13 12:36 AM |
| 12 | "Are you a woman who is worried about the idea of men sexually watching you shower? We totally understand. Are you a man who is worried about the idea of men sexually watching you shower? WOW GROW THEAre straight males allowed to feel uncomfortable? Is it OK for straight males to speak about discomfort out loud? Not if your discomfort is entirely "I don't want faggots near me". | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 11:58 PM |
| -1 | GirlWritesWhat destroys feminists on DongleGateif it helps your conscience, my brother was with his bf/partner before he made the transition, and they are still together So... in your attempt to refute claims of your transphobia, you refer to a trans woman using the word "he". You are not helping your case. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/13 02:30 PM |
| -1 | GirlWritesWhat destroys feminists on DongleGateFor instance, I have a gay brother currently married to a trans-woman. First, your gay brother, is currently married to a transwoman? Forgive me for speaking from a privileged position of actually knowing what people's identities usually mean, but I think at least one word in what you said is wrong. Even then, having a transgender sister-in-law does not mean you cannot be transphobic. Are you stupid as well as transphobic to not realize this? And you don't get to decide who else's is valid. I di… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/13 01:18 AM |
| -2 | GirlWritesWhat destroys feminists on DongleGateYour earlier comment was an announcement that you weren't familiar with many of the listed names. And that you are really transphobic. I don't think you are in a state to be talking about credibility. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/13 01:07 AM |
| 2 | how does one simply get downvoted in r/feminism?I can tell you from personal experience that it is very possible to get downvoted in r/feminism. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 03:19 AM |
| 2 | Study: Men look at women's faces, women look at women's bodies.the sexual trade-union theory of feminism (feminism as a trade-union set up by women to suppress competition by younger/more attractive women) Do you know who came up with this theory? Do you have links to any articles about it? | /r/MensRights | 24/03/13 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierI know that the whole "death of the author" thing is in vogue, but I feel it is only reasonable to consider my claims in interpreting what I say. If I say that I believe the opposite of what you claim I believe, then it is not convincing to assert that I am in error about what I actually believe. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierI'm sorry but I fail to see the contradiction. I actually explicitly said that I think people order each other by intelligence. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 02:37 AM |
| 3 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierI did not say that I don't think you can order people by intelligence. (I don't know why you said "well-ordered". Are you using that in the technical sense of the term?) I did say I think your criterion is bad. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 02:27 AM |
| 3 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierif you were smarter than them, you would be able to simulate the workings of their mind in your own mind, I don't think that follows. I suppose that I cannot speak for you, but no one I've ever talked to has conceptualized intelligence in that way. We all use different ways to compare people by intelligence. E.g. "she's more knowledgeable, well-spoken, and insightful than he is; she's smarter than he is". We don't think "I wonder if Alice can simulate Brianna's mind? I don't know. I shall simula… | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 02:17 AM |
| 3 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierI don't understand why you are following me around as if I am interesting in having a discussion with you. I just want to say snide things at you because I think you are really stupid. It's not derailing, because we were already off the tracks. From a few posts above. Your response was You can't even say snide things because I shut them down. I don't think just an assertion that you shut things down counts as actually shutting things down. I certainly don't feel shut down. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierShut down how? It doesn't stop me from responding. The only place sufficiently far removed from reality for you to be shutting me down is your own small little mind. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierI don't understand why you are following me around as if I am interesting in having a discussion with you. I just want to say snide things at you because I think you are really stupid. It's not derailing, because we were already off the tracks. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 01:31 AM |
| 4 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierFirst, it's whomever. Second, are you really trolling through my user page to find more comments of mine? Isn't that really pathetic? | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierI don't understand how you can be so fucking stupid. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 11:45 PM |
| -2 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierIndeed! I learned you are really stupid. That was new information for me! :D | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 04:22 AM |
| -5 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierI didn't realize I was Wikipedia. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 04:13 AM |
| 0 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierIt is a matter of fact that there is a variety of feminist thought. If you don't think that, it is because you think something which is not true. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 04:09 AM |
| 0 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierIf you are looking to criticize feminism, then the distinctions between different lines of feminist thought are very important. DavidBryon was criticizing feminism. The fact that many feminists do not agree with the views he is criticizing is very, very relevant. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 04:07 AM |
| 2 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierA good chunk of feminist writing is criticizing the views of other feminists. Why else do you think there are so many different varieties of feminist thought? | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 03:27 AM |
| 3 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierI don't think it is a very strong argument to demonstrate that some prominent feminists have said all men should die. (However, I would still like to see a citation for that.) It doesn't establish that most or even many feminists share those views. As feminists tend to be relentlessly critical of the views of other feminists, I think you need more than a few examples. Even if an idea was widely supported by feminists of decades ago, that doesn't mean many modern feminists will support it. Thinki… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 02:58 AM |
| 0 | Feminists remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldierYou don't want a training bra, little girl. You want all men in the world to be dead. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Something that we never discuss is the possible intersectionality of western feminism and wide spread use of Phthalates in products, has anyone else considered this?The contention is that the "actual scientific evidence" does not show what you think it shows. The fact that you have repeatedly failed to grasp that that is what people are arguing makes me suspect that you lack a commitment to the truth. If you truly cared about your views on reality being accurate, then you wouldn't blindly reject everything which disagrees with you as unscientific. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Something that we never discuss is the possible intersectionality of western feminism and wide spread use of Phthalates in products, has anyone else considered this?How does one know what the facts are? It seems we must answer that question before we can determine who is or is not interested in facts. Edit: Hubbard's contention is that claims that were made by scientists about gender were actually not facts. Her claim is that the methods used to produce these "facts" about gender aren't valid means of doing science. That sounds to me like like the viewpoint of someone who is interested in the facts. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Something that we never discuss is the possible intersectionality of western feminism and wide spread use of Phthalates in products, has anyone else considered this?So you aren't denying that he is a political gender ideologue? | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 02:34 PM |
| 2 | Something that we never discuss is the possible intersectionality of western feminism and wide spread use of Phthalates in products, has anyone else considered this?It sounds like your definition of "political gender ideology" is views on gender with which you disagree. I don't see how else a comedian who made a documentary sparking a political campaign to close a political organization for gender policy and research is not a "political gender ideologue" while the Ivy League biologist who writes academic articles on the interactions between the sciences and gender is. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 02:20 PM |
| -1 | Something that we never discuss is the possible intersectionality of western feminism and wide spread use of Phthalates in products, has anyone else considered this?The word is cisgender. There is no space, no special capitalization, and it doesn't end in "ed". | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 03:32 AM |
| 85 | "Why don't they ever give workshops to gay guys about being victims of rape too?" [X-post r/lgbt]Did you really just repost the top comment from r/lgbt on this link? | /r/MensRights | 17/03/13 03:06 PM |
| 10 | Patriarchy Theory takes away my agency and insults my ability to think for myself.The sad thing is "peer review" essentially boils down to, well everyone else believes it so it must be true. Unfortunately, for those of us schooled in epistemology that is a completely invalid proof. Academic philosophers, among them epistemologists, use peer review in their journals. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/13 01:15 AM |
| 5 | Against egalitarianism &clol If women ruled the world, a given country would declare war at the same time every month. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/13 06:10 AM |
| 5 | Against egalitarianism &cThis is both pretentious and stupid. Good job! | /r/MensRights | 15/03/13 03:58 AM |
| 1 | I got mixed reviews for my article in the paper about reverse sexism. You want equality; pay the difference!I should point out that I was being rather sarcastic in that comment, which was in r/againstmensrights. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/13 03:26 AM |
| 1 | I got mixed reviews for my article in the paper about reverse sexism. You want equality; pay the difference!I got an IQ of 135, with a mathematical slant of spotting patterns. Please don't slander mathematics by associating it with yourself. Thanks. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/13 02:59 AM |
| 2 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.It was edited within a few minutes of it being posted. Sorry I didn't think to grab a screenshot for proof. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/13 04:52 PM |
| 1 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.I'm not completely sure what you mean by "potential for oppression", but I'll use it because my point is unchanged whether I use that phrase or just "oppression". Where does intersectionality claim that being in two inferior halves confers necessarily greater potential for oppression than only being in one? Why do you think this must be the case? I'll use a metaphor, because these seem to be all the rave. Alice has 2 cups. Bob has 1 cup. Who can hold more water? It's not enough to know that Alic… | /r/MensRights | 10/03/13 02:01 AM |
| 1 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.Where does it say that oppression is measured by the number of oppressed categories one falls into? You are the one who is claiming that that is a measure of oppression. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/13 01:18 AM |
| 0 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.This is a pretty blatant tu quoque. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/13 01:00 AM |
| 0 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.He's pretty upfront about I_love_bees being his account in his first comment in this thread: Note: I_love_bees is my old account. I do still really love bees. Good job on noticing spermjack_attack is I_love_bees! That was a really keen observation you made! | /r/MensRights | 10/03/13 12:49 AM |
| -2 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.Is it against the rules to have unclear subjects of debate? If not, then how is your comment relevant to spermjack_attack's post here? | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 11:52 PM |
| 2 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.Honest question: why are you using "A = A"? Are you using that equation as a metasyntactic variable? Wouldn't it be clearer to just use "A"? | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 11:05 PM |
| 2 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.I don't see why it's so hard to google an unfamiliar acronym and why I am the one who is responsible for your misunderstanding. Especially when my parenthetical clearly mentioned that ZFC is a set theory. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 10:57 PM |
| -1 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.But whence the usage of things like "A=A"? Why this equation? | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 10:34 PM |
| 1 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.I don't think you know what set theory or ZFC (which isn't even a variable...) is. Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory with the axiom of choice is very much inherently mathematical. It's a mathematical theory regarding certain mathematical objects. Other set theories are also mathematical. They all have virtually nothing to do with what bell hooks has said. A variable is just a logical set of attributes. This not how any logician, philosopher, or mathematicians uses the word "variable". I do not underst… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 10:30 PM |
| 0 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.You've reworded what I said. X has specific properties. Therefore, X is X and X cannot be Y That's not what I said. I would never say something so stupid. Nothing in the law of identity has anything to do with properties at all. It would hold in a logic without properties at all (even if such a logic would be horribly boring). A consequence of the law of identity is that if X has a property, then X has that property. However, that is not the law of identity itself. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 10:22 PM |
| -1 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.That is not the law of identity. Sorry, but you don't actually know what you are talking about. The law of identity is simply that for any X, X = X. A thing is equal to itself. It is not what you said. Edit: also what you claim collectivists believe doesn't actually contradict the law of identity. It is possible for things to be themselves while also other things are equivalent (note that equivalent is not the same thing as equal) in some respect to them. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 10:12 PM |
| -7 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.Feminism is a broad body of thought with a diverse group of thinkers behind it. Are you surprised that it is difficult to nail down a firm definition? Are you surprised that it's hard to summarize the wide variety of views of many people? You're committing the fundamental error that spermjack_attack is criticizing: thinking that feminism is a very narrow collection of views, without substantial disagreement among its supporters. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 10:10 PM |
| -1 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.... ... ... Are you fucking stupid? Do you even know what the law of identity is? | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 10:03 PM |
| 8 | Is there a site which focuses on men's issues but is friendly toward feminism?logic-based, Lol what are Vulcans? | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 09:57 PM |
| -1 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.I don't understand what you are saying... I don't understand your usage of equations here. Are you saying that feminists deny the law of identity? | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 09:54 PM |
| -3 | girlwriteswhat comments on her experiences with male feminists.If I add an 3rd wheel to a bicycle and keep calling it a bicycle, that is no longer a bicycle by the definition of the word. It is a tricycle. Sure, there are similarities, but that is still something different. This is a bad metaphor and you should feel bad. Are you really comparing complex ideas and theories about how society is structured to a fucking bicycle? Your metaphor about pies is also rather bad. Further, "intersection" is used in non-set theoretic senses. It is rather disingenuous to… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 09:52 PM |
| -5 | Perhaps it will be interesting to see two sides: What are some things you support in the women's rights movement?Affirmative action. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/13 04:26 AM |
| 0 | Serious questions from a man who is also a feminist. Can we have a quick convo from someone who just discovered this sub?Only if they want to be convinced. Oh, you're just ignorant of psychology. That's cool So why don't you, instead of just sending back a misinterpretation of what I write, actually say what's wrong with it? Lets hear it. I explained what's wrong your last paragraph: it's fallacious reasoning. When faced with a potential counterexample to your claim, you declare that it's not a real counterexample for contrived reasons. Why does "meaningful" disagreement with a policy necessarily require dropping … | /r/MensRights | 08/02/13 09:28 PM |
| 0 | Serious questions from a man who is also a feminist. Can we have a quick convo from someone who just discovered this sub?You fail to acknowledge that consumer behavior can be created by marketing campaigns. It's not the case that consumers exist in a state where corporations have no means of shaping or creating their desires. If you can consistently get others to make certain decisions (e.g. by using psychological tricks), then you have power. It doesn't matter that others are a part of the decision making process, or that some of them will not go along with what you want. You are still able to convince large numb… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/13 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Serious questions from a man who is also a feminist. Can we have a quick convo from someone who just discovered this sub?This is a democracy. The electorate is what drives politics. Politicians only say what they believe will get/keep them in office. And the consumer is what drives the economy. CEOs only get/stay there if they can capitalize on consumer behavior. You cannot honestly believe that. For you to believe that, you'd have to deny, amongst other things, the impact of lobbying on politics and the impact of marketing on consumer behavior. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/13 07:55 PM |
| -3 | How a radical feminist views her husband: "...he’s just an alien in the home. He helps out a lot with the kids, which I used to appreciate, but now I realise it’s another form of dominance, of tryingI'm revoking your privilege to use the word "logic"; you clearly have no clue what it means. Do me a favor and read a few textbooks on formal logic before attempting to use that now-banned word. In particular, you should learn the difference between a statement being consistent with a theory and a statement being logically entailed by a theory. You should also attempt to gain a vocabulary. For example, learn what the word "equation" means (hint: it is not synonymous with "syllogism"). | /r/MensRights | 04/02/13 08:08 PM |
| -15 | This, fucking this, is why i don't like r/racismBut SRS isn't full of misogynists who make anti-feminist arguments... | /r/MensRights | 27/01/13 01:28 AM |
| 4 | Why the MRM should reject terms like cis-gendered!Why does everyone keep putting a hyphen in "cisgender"? I don't understand. | /r/MensRights | 21/01/13 07:10 PM |
| 24 | Is there space for Gay men in MensRights?Women can be cisgender, bro. The word doesn't just apply to men; that wouldn't even make sense. | /r/MensRights | 21/01/13 04:13 AM |
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