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Not PPD. It's common assault basically. More like a pussy being affected by words. It's playground level maturity and shows the guy has no ability to deal with conflict or controversy as a man. He would probably punch a downs child for staring at him.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/05/17 11:03 AM
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Looks like she got Hunted.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/12/16 08:12 PM
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That guy just Made America Great Again!
/r/PussyPassDenied06/11/16 05:25 PM
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Massamatics.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/10/16 08:35 AM
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I know this is a repost, but if it's really you, can I have her? Some of us want the crazies!
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/16 06:17 PM
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Now because she was acting all 'cute' and 'quirky' with that stupid voice of hers she thinks she can get away with anything "Holds up spork!"
/r/PussyPassDenied22/09/16 11:47 AM
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Rule out Maslow's hierarchy first. Make sure you've taken care of your needs.
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/16 06:40 PM
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Okay, thanks for replying. This is just feedback, mind. I'm fine, he keeps complementing my body. I either eat too much or not enough. Okay one of you isn't telling the truth. I want to do certain activities to earn extra money and he thinks it's useless because it's not much. Sounds like the two of you are not on the same page. I break glasses and hit my toes, I'm just clumsy, not careless. Come on now. Do you have regions of your brain which have atrophied? No? Then there's no excuse. "I'm clu…
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/16 07:53 PM
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nagging boyfriend that questions what you eat Are you fat? what you do with your free time Are you lazy? even nags you for being clumsy Are you careless and flippant? shy Do you make no effort to socialise? for wanting to buy something he sees as useless, etc Do you not have an understanding of the value of money? Is there a shared goal you two are working towards and does that not include frivolous purchases?
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/16 05:35 PM
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I'm not very happy about the possibility where the million or so migrants are allowed to settle in Europe without extensive screening. Dating in Europe will now come with severe risks. I mean, a million or two young fighting men with pre-enlightenment attitudes to life, never mind women, is really going to present quite a danger because they've never had the freedom to interact with women the way we do today. Their culture is hardcoded and when someone transgresses their norms, they get beaten o…
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/16 02:07 PM
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Sounds like you need him to knock you out and fuck your body while you're unconscious, is that right? Because I don't know how much more dominant you want him to be? Seriously why are many women like you? Never happy unless they're being shouted at and pushed around? We men don't want to to have to continually put you in your place and only some of us realise enough that you just want the pantomime of the dramatic fight. It's exhausting and mainly a waste of time. I'm highly questioning why a wo…
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/15 12:55 AM
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You don't need to go to college. You need to learn to cope with stress. Get a job that makes you sweat and keeps you busy for most of the day. Aspergers is bullshit. You need to socialise yourself. You need to do what is socially acceptable and not do what is socially unacceptable. You need to generalise these lessons through all areas of your life. It takes practice just like anything else. Also, if you happen to be taking something like xanax or an SSRI, fucking stop it because it makes you an…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/14 05:52 AM
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Your gf is condoning this behaviour and wants you to support it. I wonder if she has ever fucked around behind your back?
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 09:03 PM
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What's your diet? What are you eating every day? I find it expensive to keep a keto diet.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 02:43 AM
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I have been dragged around on a leash, with a carrot in front of me this whole time. The carrot was in your ass, mate.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/14 05:16 AM
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Yes I get on with guys better. I'm able to, without ramming trp down their throats, help them think critically about how their current girl is fucking them over, getting away with unruly behaviour, treating them like a doormat etc. One guy I work with works two jobs to keep his fat missus and her bucktooth kid from another guy with a roof over her head. He works 12 hour shifts for them. Pays all the bills. I see her come into work now and again. You wouldn't believe the devious, guilty look on t…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/14 12:21 PM
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Thanks, I often have issues with that. Forgot to brane.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/14 02:33 PM
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There is a lot of bitching about this whore in here. I don't get why live and let live doesn't prevail. I guess I'm not too confident in the idea of disrewarding slut behaviour in the hope that somehow trp will change the course of evolution and alter the essentially deceitful nature of women. I mean the conflicting sexual strategies of male and female exists right down to the level of sperm and egg. Yet red pillers bitch about women whoring around. I'm a man and I've done the exact same thing a…
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 10:48 PM
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Unreadable.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/14 08:00 PM
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TL;DR - New boyfriend is a sociopath fuck machine. I have his phone with all the evidence of his skilled manipulation of several women. I am not sure what (if anything) to do about it yet. I feel horrible about all of it, but damn, we have so much fun! How cunty. That's a deal breaker there snooping on his phone. What a loser. Her thirties are gonna be a sorry time.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/14 04:56 AM
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Scan for treats instead.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 08:50 AM
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I do like this interview where he alludes to the humping. Seems a bit self deprecatory, which is mildly endearing. Big guys like that can afford to laugh at themselves in the public arena.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 08:29 AM
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so I decided to put up with his shenanigans and finish the interview. It's pretty much all there. Women also routinely and astutely decide to take a mans balls in the back of her head in a nightclub bathroom stall while her beta boyfriend is out near the dance-floor holding her drink. That's proactive decision making right there.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 08:22 AM
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A flaw in the theory. Of course, we are not apes, so in modern life, the alpha in the hierarchy is the factory owner, let's call him Bert. As Bert walks through his factory floor, the workers bow and doff their caps and produce smiles they don't even have for their own children. If Bert has been kind to his workers, most of those smiles will be genuine. If he has been a selfish, greedy, negative, desperate fool, those smiles will dissipate when he turns his back. Bert knows this and this fact co…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 12:41 AM
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Delegate. Paleo women go picking berries and preparing food. Paleo men hunt for food.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 03:06 AM
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If it were me, I think it's fair to give her an ultimatum and clearly communicate all the things you expect of her. A long list if need be. If you want her to take a backseat workwise then you have to be providing some good stuff to replace what it is she wants or needs out of work. As a man, it's your job to steer the ship and be stronger than her. You ultimately set the course. But if she refuses to do something about her weight and you're finding time to work out and keep in shape, let her kn…
/r/TheRedPill30/04/14 10:17 AM
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Hey man, 16 is the 'age of consent' in the uk. Smoking weed is illegal too but everyone does it. You're a bit of a dickhead for claiming paedophilia here. Go and inform yourself on the meaning of the prefix 'paedo' for a start. The truth is that girls in the UK are fucking from about 13/14 onwards. That's undeniable and is a timeless fact and it's not going to stop in the future either, no matter what legislation politicians put in place. What is central to the story and most relevant to trp is …
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 06:42 AM
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This isn't really a red pill question. You're entering a business partnership with these people. You're making a business decision. If you go into a partnership without leverage, expect to get the least out of the deal. The deal is made when you sign on the line. Having said that, you can always walk and find a better deal.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/14 05:37 PM
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Dumb bitches, get back to me when you've been carrying your ovaries outside your body for a couple of years and the set of your hips become a third narrower.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/14 04:35 PM
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Second, women from poor countries have had life much, much different from how it is over here. Kids start smoking in middle school and drinking heavily in high-school (think college freshmen levels of drinking, but starting at age 15). Yeh, everyone else does too, I think the U.S. is more the exception to the rule on this one. i.e. puritanical.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/14 04:40 PM
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I think you haven't done your homework. Women are attracted to status. The tribal leader. The Leader of the Pack.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 08:17 PM
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Hybrid Vigour.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 12:01 AM
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What would you say to your younger brother? You'd tell him to hurry up because you're talking to him. If they don't like it, go find a respectful girl, someone who doesn't have their lives so out of control that they can't arrange to meet people so they text their stories instead.
/r/seduction15/02/14 01:41 AM
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Well, I'll help the poor lass out with a large portion of love truncheon if you're not going to. You can hold aloft the mighty sword of ethics and I'll ride the battlecat in a battering motion through her back door.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 11:01 AM
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It seems it's a tango. but your footworks all wrong.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 06:20 AM
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lol, you can't leave me alone, huh? If I didn't know any better, I could be forgiven for thinking you have a hang up about successful short guys. Maybe a neighbourhood Tom Cruise, Michael J Fox or Adolph Hitler stole your first girlfriend because you were just too needy and pussified? Either way, go hit the gym and compensate some more.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 04:13 AM
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Derive what what you want mate. I'm living a fucking great life!
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 02:47 AM
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From Science Daily: "However, short women and tall men appear to prefer larger height differences..." Yes? Midgets prefer giants. I said that already. They both want normal offspring. They can't get that by mating with similar height. (I love how this study was done in the Netherlands, full of tall people!) The article ends with "while preferences for partner height generally translate into actual pairing, they do so only modestly." .....This says height doesn't affect pairing. As for the second…
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 01:58 AM
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I don't care.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/13 08:26 AM
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The overwhelming majority of women prefer tall men and that's just the way it is. Well, it's just not true, and that betrays how much you know about women, which suggests to me that you haven't had any in more than a while. Anyway, thanks for the troll, laters.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/13 06:29 AM
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Sure. A few times. Didn't make a difference. I think this argument is over now, you've nothing to say.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/13 12:54 AM
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Well I wasn't asking you, and furthermore you've added nothing to the conversation. you certainly haven't backed up your claims. just sweeping erroneous generalisation.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/13 12:03 AM
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It also has a great deal to say about evolutionary fitness. Such as?
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 02:32 PM
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Nope, they're my observations from having had sex with several tall girls and from observing the status dynamic of tall guys. I used to think wishfully about that sort of thing when I was younger and less experienced, but these days I realise height has little to do with pulling girls. Sure, some girls are not going to fuck someone my height, no matter what, and some girls are not going to fuck white guys not matter what. But a lot of them don't put a premium on tallness because it's not necessa…
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 01:44 PM
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You're never going to be able to be free of some douchebag pulling down your game in field. Try to factor that in to your logistics with a woman. Get her number early, before douchebro fucks it up for you then either isolate the girl and do what you will with her or arrange there and then to meet later at a specific place and time. But of course, the only way you'll learn is by going out with these dumb friends who don't know how to behave and meeting people who do. The real life comparison shou…
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 12:17 PM
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Jeezus Christ, another one of these arguments. Look, women say one thing and do another all the time. Short girls like tall guys because they're fucking midgets. Tall girls girls fuck short guys too, because they don't want their kids to be the slow-ass lummox and have fucking knee problems and be the tall poppy. Tall guys are not immune from an ass kicking, you know. What I think women like about being tall in a man is that it is arguably a quickly identifiable secondary sex characteristic. Eve…
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 07:32 AM
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Are you in a LTR with this girl? If so, you wait until it happens again and dress the both of them down at once. You start with the guy and tell him you don't want to see his hands on her again. Tell him she is your girlfriend and any previous dynamic between the two of them has since changed. (because he didn't man up and make the move on her.) Then you ask her why she is letting him put his hands all over her. You tell her that kind of thing changes now because you're not going to put up with …
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 05:08 AM
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Dubious. He supports me to follow my own dreams in being a successful medical professional, always pushing me to be the best, aspire to greater things and do things I never would of though I could do before we met like owning my own practice. "medical professional..." "would of..."
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 02:42 AM
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Text game is for pussies.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/13 11:18 AM
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lol I can't say I blame you.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 12:59 AM
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"You wouldn't let anything bad happen to me. You're my Will and I'm your Grace." Oh god, I expected her to end it with "DAHLING!" I can't stand the entitlement on some of them. Having said that, there are some fantastic women out there who are good quality friends. The good ones will tell you to grow some balls when you try to lean on them emotionally. I think it's more a problem of you not setting boundaries from the outset. Maybe the boundaries were implied but not agreed. It's not impossible …
/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 12:16 AM
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Gillette are the last motherfuckers I take advice from on being a man. FUCK Gillette! I have a thirteen year old electric shaver still going strong and cheap disposable razors last me a long time as long as I soap the oils out of my stubble twice.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/13 12:25 PM
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Seddit got taken over by TofuTofu who used it to eventually try to start selling his PUA material, but it didn't work and there was a backlash. TofuTofu gave throwawayPUA moderatorship because he supported his own pussified agenda. Source: I've been around seddit since before they had come and gone and I remember the heyday when people knew what the mystery method was. When they knew the fundamentals. When everyone kept it simple and wanted to bang lots of club whores.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 02:27 AM
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Yeah, throwawayPUA needs to step down. He's always been a mangina, that's the problem. TofuTofu was chief mangina and they corrupted and perverted the original message of the sub for their own mangina tingles.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 02:21 AM
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I read this as "Do all women see their boyfriends as enemies?" I came here expecting to find confirmation of that.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/13 09:06 AM
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This guy can barely speak. He's a dork who learned leadership the easy way, by joining the army and having it all laid out before him. I hope to fucking Christ my daughter doesn't get pregnant with an anti-intellectual like him.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/13 08:12 AM
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This absolutely did not answer OP's question. He's talking about when she has leverage over the man using access rights.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/13 07:35 AM
1

Google Drive? Really?
/r/TheRedPill02/11/13 04:53 AM
1

Case A: Your "plate" (or woman for the non douche knuckles) has been bitching to her friend as an emotional dump and is not as emotionally secure and cool as how she presents herself to you. Case B: This other bitch is just one of these annoying cunts who assume the mother-duck role between friends because the only way she knows how to bond with her peers is to open herself up to everyone else's emotional baggage and act as a dumping ground for bad mood swings. Case C: The crazy bitch was displa…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 10:22 PM
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There's a lot of talk about cheating in this thread. Only betas call it cheating because they think there are rules. I call it nature.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/13 11:05 AM
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This whole article is about this girl WHO KNOWS how hot she is subtly fishing for complements. Red pill does not apply. e.g. she wants the kind of response like "Hey don't let those Koreans tell you you're fat, you're totally beautiful". Look at the second photo and try to tell me she believes she's fat. My guess is she receives massive amounts of attention in Korea and the local girls resent this so call her fat to bring her confidence down so she won't steal their men.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/13 05:32 PM
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yeah I know it's funny isn't it? most people just don't question much.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/13 12:26 PM
1

If you read one book, it should be MM.
/r/seduction19/09/13 02:49 PM
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Shouldn't /r/seduction[3] be about achieving your personal goals? Not about fucking as many (low - value) chicks as humanly possible. Quick answer: No. That's what /r/selfhelp is for. This sub was originally only for picking up women. Then mods like TofuTofu took over and watered down the message so he could expand the membership. Well he seems to have gotten bored of it after outright subverting it for his own needs and so we are left with mods who don't filter out crap that should be posted in…
/r/seduction28/08/13 05:29 AM
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Well bro, I wish I had the answers for you there. I almost do because I have 20/20 hindsight. I know what I will do when I meet another chick that measures up to my last LTR. I wont let her go and this time I will stay focused on my path and success so she will stick around. Look, what I mean when I say I don't understand how you say you've failed with a particular girl is that you can turn it all around with that girl. You can re-initiate the entire mating ritual from the start. After a brief h…
/r/seduction28/08/13 12:08 AM
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Great I don't mind being wrong. But you were being vague. What I don't get is how you can say you have failed anything? Therein lies another question: What do you want? When do you know you'll have it? How do you know you have it? So it seems it's not a question of seduction but life direction. I can also tell you about things I've accomplished and they're good. But let's not swing our dicks here. Also, owning a nightclub? That has it's own inherent motivations that I assume would cross over int…
/r/seduction27/08/13 11:31 PM
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33 here. This is a prime age. We have it all at this age and we do for the following decade! Are you lifting? Are you social proofing? Do you have a circle of friends? Can you call a few of them up and have them out at the weekend? meeting the rare girl who makes me rethink things What does this mean? You're being vague, like a woman. What do you want? I nail the pickup,get the date, and then it goes to hell. Then don't go on dates. Do instadates. Go for drinks. Whatever. Never go on dates unles…
/r/seduction27/08/13 10:56 PM
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/r/relationships
/r/seduction27/08/13 04:21 PM
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Riveting wheeze old chap!
/r/seduction27/08/13 03:52 PM
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when I say introverted it just means that I'm closer to that side... Mate, you're giving agency to the definition of who you are. You are letting an old outdated body of knowledge applied to restrictive scope answers to a personality test tell you who you are. There is no such practical thing as the definition of introversion or extroversion. If you paralysed the language centre of your brain for a day, we wouldn't be having this debate. Behaviours are learned. There are only two behaviours you'…
/r/seduction27/08/13 03:07 PM
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No, OP did with his off topic post that has nothing to do with seducing women. Case in point: http://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/1ht3ie/me21m_with_my_close_friend_20f_do_nice_guys/ Read his posts, that will tell you a lot about why he posted that crap.
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:53 PM
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Ok great. Take this to /r/psychology or /r/neuroscience. This is seddit and sadly the mods are not doing their jobs.
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:41 PM
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No dude, I'm probably older than you and I have experience to share. Part of the experience I am sharing here is that I have long ago learned that modern psychology does not help you meet women. It is only because the mods here are shit that we are having this interaction, otherwise you would have been invited to take your intro/extroversion to /r/psychology
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:37 PM
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People are not born with character traits.
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:32 PM
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So what, you like the complexity that is you to be summed up as one bland non-descriptive noun? And let's back to topic...how has you self-identifying as an introvert helped you seduce women in the plurality?
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:26 PM
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Given that neuroscientists say that neuroplasticity is a reality, I doubt they will definitively find a biological cause for something that you cannot even agree on what it is, if it even exists at all. Projection is making what your ego doesn't like about you appear to come from outside you. I can assure you I don't follow any of this introversion nonsense.
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:20 PM
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Yeh and it's morons like you who cannot perceive a multi-trillion dollar link between the pharmaceutical/mental health industry and the psychology industry/academia, regulated by governments and run as a factory farm requiring supply and demand on both sides to keep the big pile of bullshit perpetuating, it's morons like you who I pity. Go buy some prozac and cure your introversion.
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:16 PM
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I like books, programming, playing music, gaming, writing, drawing. Big deal. I also like going out to social gatherings, going to the beach with friends, working as a team with co workers, telling stories and jokes, talking to others and finding out what they're like, just like everyone else does unless they are (borderline)autistic. Here's what's going on when people identify as an introvert. They get an identity without having to work for it and craft it. They get character without the effort…
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:11 PM
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I'm not young. I've had time to read everything I need to on introversion/extroversion and I've come to the obvious conclusion that it comes from the psychology industry from back in the fifties when they pounced on Jungian personality types and produced the Myer-Briggs scale. It's pseudoscience and only exists to keep the psychology industry afloat. It is essentially propaganda. My attitude, however, comes from seeing people who cant seduce a blow-up doll come to seddit and spout self help conc…
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:03 PM
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Good. See ya. Enjoy your crippling self analysis.
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:54 PM
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I would say that the definition of an introvert is: "A person who is energized by spending time alone". Right, so that's your definition. I mean I spend eight hours a night in bed all on my own and when my alarm clock rings, I'm very energised. Gee, am I an introvert? Playing towards your strength is a huge benefit in seduction. Knowing what energizes you can be a a huge plus! I hope you're talking from experience of plowing through a number of women totaling somewhere in the mid to high double …
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:49 PM
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There IS no such thing as introversion. So how can you use something that doesn't exist to your advantage? And WTF does that have to do with seduction?
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:44 PM
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Intro/extroversion is psychology industry product. There is a profit motive. And it works. But it's all lies.
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:39 PM
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I love books, I enjoy programming, I have a very analytical mind but I also nail interviews and presentations. How does that make you an introvert?!!!? What a load of psychobabble bullshit. Protip: there is no such thing as introvert/extrovert. NO such thing. It's invented psychology industry lies. You are either socially adept or not. Regardless of your ability to fulfill technical tasks.
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:30 PM
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The video is crap, I watched ten seconds of it. Introspective psychobabble bullshit. How, dear OP, are you going to display social proof when you're a lazy, scared introverted pussy who spends their days watching self analysis vids on youtube? How?
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:20 PM
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Bullshit! You have several mods letting shit content get through that has nothing to do with actually picking up women. That's why this sub is dead.
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:14 PM
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If a women did that to me....lied and put me in jail...I'd be released and put right back in after teaching her a hard life lesson or two about being responsible for your actions. After she put me in jail and removed my probable ability to earn above minimum wage and be disallowed from working half of the professions, put a stigma on me to my family and friends... let's just say I think she would see repercussions.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/13 03:17 AM
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Calm down guys, that post was written by a dude. What woman says she "double-teamed" by a couple of dudes? Answer? none. 'She' allegedly feels regret for letting two guys fuck her, yet she speaks like someone who does it all the time. I, a 23 year old [F] let two friends of mine The language here is objective, a dead giveaway. the way we usually are, very humorous and relaxed What 23yr old girl talks about being humorous? There are several more things that stand out as clearly being written by a…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/13 02:10 AM
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I can make these assertions because I've been on this sub for a few years and gradually have seen it go from giving real hope to young men looking for sexual encounters to giving false hope to incurable betas who have mistaken it for group therapy.
/r/seduction26/08/13 06:22 PM
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This is a load of bullshit and totally arrogant to think you know what is best for others. I've seen guys behave like this. They get them to enrol in an airy fairy class at night school, "follow their dreams/passion", they get them to move halfway across country to a dead-end town, they get them to help out with a business. They give advice on how to behave with their family and what to think. They get their women to do all sorts of shit that the guy thinks is good for them because they don't wa…
/r/seduction26/08/13 12:23 PM
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A woman isn't going to be completely oblivious to her changeable emotional needs. Isn't going to be... Future tense? Sounds like wishful thinking. In reality, they are. Every month. Unpopular opinion, sure. But the truth hurts. And the people downvoting? ...feminists, liars and betas. There's not a woman out there above being convinced to upgrade their relationship to a new dick.
/r/seduction24/08/13 03:35 PM
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Who said that was the approach? It wasn't the seddit consensus a few years ago. A woman's emotions change drastically every month. That means there are two classes of emotions a guy must fulfill. The kind when she is ovulating and the kind when she isn't. Furthermore, this subreddit and The Game was built on evolutionary biology and the more you try to get away from that model, the more you have clueless betas still stuck at processing shit tests with women as above.
/r/seduction24/08/13 01:52 PM
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I never go after girls that are taken Yeh, right. I totally do. If they have a boyfriend it feels much better when you fuck. There's not a woman out there who has been totally faithful to her man.
/r/seduction24/08/13 01:15 PM
1

Who cares about what you feel? It's not about just you. Among other things it's about having fun, being fun and giving fun. Lighten up, don't take this too seriously. It's called game for a reason. Reading your post, how many boxes would you say you have ticked off compared with when you first started out on this? I think this is a more useful frame to think from. Also, you must clarify what you want out of this, whether it's a dirty fuck in a trashcan or a deep connection with a harem of female…
/r/seduction24/08/13 11:06 AM
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Jesus, neckbeard, you need to get out more. This is transparent game playing. It may work on a chick with zero confidence. It's not the dumb line that might work, it's the fact that showing you are willing to walk away is an attraction switch you need to use just about every time you flirt. There are more fun and subtle ways to do this though, the mere act of working the room means you are unattached to the outcome of the interaction with the target. But it is part of qualification and just look…
/r/seduction19/08/13 11:37 PM
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Of course. Especially beautiful ones and/or successful ones/interesting/fun etc ones. It's mad social proof, you can flirt with her for fun and if she's cool and you like her for who she is, you get to hang out with her as opposed to losing her when you're bored with her vag. I think this subreddit should come with the disclaimer that trp is only an idea to be used as long as it is useful. It is about a sexual strategy, not something to base your life on. Having said that, be very careful under …
/r/TheRedPill19/08/13 11:18 PM
2

Rule 1: It's just an idea.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 03:05 PM
2

That situation does not warrant red pill analysis. That is a couple facing death. The child may have a genetic disposition to cancer too. The wife probably knows the odds of his survival and now she knows she's going to have a hard time bringing up her child on her own. Women after all do look to the man for survival value.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 08:55 AM
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Guycentric advice. Like when most girls post on seddit. Dumb shit such as when a girl asks "how do attract x dude?" and they say "Show him you have tits."
/r/seduction15/08/13 12:21 AM
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It does. There should be a warning to males to wait ten minutes after writing a comment before posting it. My guess is most guys will delete what they have to say.
/r/seduction15/08/13 12:03 AM
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If you feel the need to white knight because of some of the things he did then feel free to fuck off from the subreddit, its people like you that ruin the quality of this sub.
/r/seduction15/08/13 12:01 AM
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/r/fpua Of course, the sub is flooded with dudes from seddit.
/r/seduction14/08/13 11:19 PM
0

Hey dude, you're too old to be a virgin. What are you waiting for? Go out to bars and lower your standards enough to pull. Go talk to people purely for the rejection to notice how you react to that rejection. What if you die next year? What if you die next month? are you willing to die a virgin? You have to physically move and keep moving. Picking up women is muscle memory. Don't listen to your inner voice. Don't give a fuck how you dress. Stand up straight and go out with friends. If you don't …
/r/TheRedPill14/08/13 05:58 AM
9

Ever shaken a woman's hand? Fucking hell man, 22? you're old enough now, you need to expose yourself to risk. Go out right now and touch a female. Pretend you think she's someone else or something. And "kissless virgin" is an internet meme. That means you spend way too much time on the internet in your neckbeard basement. Get the fuck outside and breathe air.
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:52 AM
1

Introduction to nlp richard bandler
/r/seduction12/08/13 03:47 AM
1

Any pointers in mind?
/r/TheRedPill11/08/13 01:52 PM
1

Moved out to Australia, initially lived in a hostel, got a bar job, met tonnes of people in the process, never looked back.
/r/seduction11/08/13 11:49 AM
1

It absolutely does. From experience, there is a distinct difference from when you were a clueless beta to going in there armed with new knowledge and 'dating' history behind you. I highly recommend shagging the last chick you had oneitis with. The rest become a lot easier after that.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/13 02:46 PM
0

Like I said, stick to the policies and procedures of your workplace and everyone's hunky fuckin dory. Other than that, if you're punishing flirtatious behaviour, then the person bringing redpill sexual strategy into the professional workplace is you.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/13 10:05 AM
1

Do you "come down hard" on a baby when it shits its nappy? Punishing a woman for her basic nature means it has gotten to you and you cant handle it with grace. If you have an important job, stick to the guidelines, policies, procedures and legislation.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/13 07:49 AM
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You sound like a doucheknuckle. The tell tale signs are there. Anyone who compares themselves to cops but aren't one, anyone who exclaims authority without the caveat that they have been granted it by peers, people with a cruel-to-be-kind attitude.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/13 04:56 AM
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I used pheromones back in the nineties when I had no game but the athletic body of an eighteen year old. The pheromones undoubtedly worked. I had girls walk up to me from out of nowhere and launch themselves at me and kiss me. They had this horny as fuck animal look on their face. I however was just a sensitive young dude and was mainly inexperienced in grabbing numbers off of girls. It was also a time when few people had mobile phones. Also no social media and no PUA forums back then. They were…
/r/seduction09/08/13 05:05 PM
3

What do you mean it just works? How about a Field Report?
/r/TheRedPill07/08/13 07:56 AM
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/r/circlejerk
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:46 PM
1

Words of wisdom indeed. Now that you've made the most of your life and told reddit about it, remember to wipe your porn collection tonight in case you die in your sleep and your computer is given away to your little pigtailed cousin who is skilled at bypassing windows passwords.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/13 01:00 PM
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I would have fucked more women and spent less time in a few relationships that sucked the life out of me. I would have probably met a higher quality of woman. I would have made completely different choices in life. The knowledge would have probably spurred me on to achieve much more than I have done to date in terms of professional achievement because I know now that what kind of job you have doesn't make a difference to women, as long as you're good at it and are having fun regardless of the wo…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/13 03:34 AM
1

As long as we are all coerced into and stuck in an institutionalised schooling system until a certain age before we get to make a life for ourselves, we are still children in that institution. Adulthood comes with responsibility.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 11:54 AM
1

You would've had better luck texting "Hey, Derpina, I heard you had a ladyboner for me! I'm gonna be at Schitthouse bar at 8 tonight if you wanna hang so I can screen you for crazy before I go caveman on your pouch."
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 11:45 AM
0

Spin plates. Do something better/more fun with your days.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 10:18 AM
6

Have you considered that you are mad at yourself for putting up with her behaviour? Are you happy with who you are and where you are in life?
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 10:15 AM
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One time I pulled this girl and went back to her place. She was with a male friend of hers. He was an orbiter. She had seemingly friendzoned him long ago but he still thought he was in with a chance. I was literally in bed with this girl, making out with her, sharing a joint while he was on the end of the bed talking to us. I was totally conscious of this and found it incredibly funny. The girl wouldn't directly tell him to piss off, so I enjoyed making everything uncomfortable for all. I was re…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 10:12 AM
0

Fair enough. All I could picture was that dude from the Mark Rippetoe book and his meaty ass and thighs who could accidentally snap your wrist in a polite introductory handshake.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 10:01 AM
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Lol I believe GayLubeOil is having a joke here. Squats and deadlifts lol.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 09:37 AM
2

Jeezus, you're still a little cub, remember, so don't pressurise yourself over this stuff. But one of the things I respect in women is when they are honest. Especially being honest about what they want. True to themselves, true to others. With your (future?) partner, again, be honest. Make sure you know what you want. Then communicate that to him. Clearly. Don't be frightened of laying down an ultimatum. That can only earn you respect and will probably make the best of your relationship. Both pa…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 09:32 AM
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The relationship was ok That's all you want? an okay relationship? Of course, we love each other and this shit. I don't even know what fuck that means! In the first 6 months, she had the habit of flirting with other guys in front of me This suggests to me that you know nothing about picking up women. For a start, you seemingly haven't demonstrated high enough value for her to fix her attention on you in the initial courtship. Secondly you haven't demonstrated early on your willingness to walk aw…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 09:21 AM
2

Maybe you should ask yourself...."What do I really want?". Until you get answers. It's that simple. Otherwise, post a FR of how you pulled and fucked your last HB9.
/r/seduction31/07/13 04:55 AM
2

Dude, this is office politics. You would be better served by clueing yourself up in law(and contracts), liability, procedure and protocol. Anyone shouting at you is only doing so because you don't know your own power. It would take one short meeting, with an employment tribunal in the back of your mind, to her superior to put her behaviour in check. She would accuse me of shit and say she had alibis, but they were always anonymous which I thought was funny. This right here is potentially either …
/r/TheRedPill30/07/13 04:20 PM
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and had had decent success with all of it What do you mean by success? Did you fuck them all? How many? Also, you're 18. You have a limited frame of reference. Value giving is just one way of looking at things. While you're "giving value" and engaging her with dancing monkey syndrome, someone like me is coming in behind you and AMOGing her away in the blinking of an eye. Grabbing her and walking out the door. The only value I give her in that event is in my pants. Motherfucker.
/r/seduction30/07/13 09:15 AM
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First rule in NLP: The map is not the territory. You're going by the framework you have learned, not the full reality of things. You're looking through a particularly coloured lens. There are more lenses.
/r/seduction28/07/13 11:26 AM
1

You have to cross a threshold. Do lots of approaches in quick succession. Humans learn quickly, not slowly. Secondly, a mind trick. If you are really stuck in your own head in field and essentially sabotaging yourself. Stand there, wherever you are, do this quickly... In you mind, notice yourself and how you approached, what you said and did. Step out of your body, move back ten feet and again watch that interaction. Do it quick. Notice the difference of feeling in the two states. They are not t…
/r/seduction27/07/13 03:09 PM
4

Yeh, you're cute. Tall too, apparently. I would probably need a grappling iron and rope to bed you.
/r/seduction25/07/13 02:50 AM
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Hang on a minute. How are you shocked by any of this? Have you been to a nightclub before? You have to read OPs post in context of the various material on the sidebar or you are talking without relevance. Furthermore, if what you said in another post is true, that you are a recovering drug addict/alcoholic with PTSD and OCD then you are really not presenting all the facts here. Furthermore, if you have been in what you call extremely abusive relationships, then /r/seduction is not really the kin…
/r/seduction25/07/13 02:31 AM
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lol cool story breh
/r/seduction23/07/13 11:26 PM
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This is hands-down, the most insightful FR a girl has ever posted here in the last four years. You've actually gone and read some material and communicate in the right language, well done! I could be forgiven for suspecting you're a dude IRL miss "...all-that-glitters..." Tell your girlfriends about what you wrote here and get them to do the same. Your input is really helpful. Thanks.
/r/seduction22/07/13 01:17 AM
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Inherited wealth and a country mansion.
/r/seduction15/07/13 07:45 AM
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Not enough info. But clearly, it wasn't a super smooth close. If it was super smooth, you would have bedded her that evening. Going by your limited detail, I would focus more on social proofing yourself (go make some friends) given that you're hanging on her every text message and inviting her to.....what? I don't know. What is "escalated into cute tones"? Are you still at school or something? If so, you don't need this subreddit right now. Come back when you got ditched by the love of your life…
/r/seduction15/07/13 02:59 AM
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Lol this sucks. You have ONE thing down, that's the balls to approach. You have nothing else. Try reading the sidebar.
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:05 AM
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Mystery Method. His work is the underlying machinery for what all the others put on top of it. Attraction, Comfort, Seduction and the evolutionary biology aspects of pickup. You can't help but notice these everywhere, whether or not you're trying to pick up at the time. The strongest lesson and one of the first profound moments for me in my early attempts with his material is disqualification. The first time I consciously disqualified myself from a HB9, I did an over the top I-have-nothing-going…
/r/seduction07/07/13 03:58 AM
2

Don't invite her on what is obviously a date then. Go somewhere with friends and invite her along. e.g. a new bar that just opened. Then when you have displayed social proof, you can transition her to another venue. Just make it fun.
/r/seduction02/07/13 05:36 AM
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Not at all. I'm speaking as someone who used to be an AFC then three years ago found attraction game and learned a lot about myself to the point that my sexual experience with women now numbers in the late double-digits. Which is what I wanted for a few years. I simply choose relevant examples of role models. E.g. Tyler from RSD. He's a short average looking guy like me and he gets action. He talks funny like me and stumbles his words and shit like me. How hard is that to conceive of? This guys …
/r/seduction01/07/13 12:43 AM
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He looks and acts gay. Forgive me for not learning a thing from him. He gets action because he is tall and good looking and im sure he has balls when he needs them make a move. He has never had to come to a forum like this to learn how to behave in an attractive manner. His convo is boring and he sounds gay. Can you imagine Marlon Brando yakking on like him as if he was a desperate housewife?
/r/seduction29/06/13 10:52 AM
1

Jeeeeezus guys, this topic is now the typical useless crap that comes out of this sub. It contains nothing other than the reduction of language and thought. Quit trying to distill a complex mating ritual into 5 mini-phrases. You all sound like retards. Case in point: Don't be a fuck nigga Don't act like a bitch Give no fucks what so ever. Don't be S.A.F.E (sensitive as fuck everyday) Floss everyday. This guy at time of post had 71 upvotes. It's no surprise, of course, that OP can't even get the …
/r/seduction13/05/13 09:38 AM
1

Wonderful post. Thumbs up. In more than two years in seddit, you are the first girl I have fully agreed with in here and who I think has actually contributed something useful, realistic, honest and accurate. The sheer amount of times I have been downvoted to hell for disagreeing with a girl/woman in here because she is giving advice from a one-sided biased female viewpoint which doesn't help men and sounds like self-help advice is staggering. It doesn't help that the average frustrated chump lur…
/r/seduction12/05/13 09:38 AM
2

Transcribe it please? Both parties.
/r/seduction11/05/13 03:14 PM
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You're low value. That's why. You're looking outside for validation. You give a fuck about what those girls think. You want to be adored but you haven't got anything else going on enough that you're always thinking about it. They see this pretty quick. About as quick as you can assess their attractiveness from looking at their breast size and hip-to-waist ratio.
/r/seduction09/05/13 11:21 PM
0

I had a ltr with a multiple rape victim. The mistake is in allowing that to be her identity. It's something that happened to her in the past. It doesn't make her who she is. If you just want an easy wham-bam-thank you ma'am ride, then you just carry on as normal. Just seduce her, no big deal. What I think you mean is will she flip out when you have sex with her? Well, maybe. It depends on if she has learned to have panic attacks and flashbacks. My girl did have panic attacks and used to cut hers…
/r/seduction07/05/13 01:07 PM
2

Nice FR. I'd love to know what she said to the other girls. I find that the girls who are DTF do not need kiss-closes. It's often counter productive to follow escalation up to a kiss. Because that satisfies the girl, not you. Where you resume escalation with a kiss is back at your place or sometimes out in the street; whenever you isolate. If I had decided to number close when you did, I would have then got right back into gaming other girls. She put you in competition with some guy after she sc…
/r/seduction05/05/13 06:50 AM
1

You begin straight away. As soon as you meet her. Handshake etc. Then follow the escalation ladder. Calibrate with how far she want's to take it. If she pulls back, you disreward. Wait a while. Escalate.
/r/seduction05/05/13 06:17 AM
5

Thanks, you totally proved my point.
/r/seduction05/05/13 12:15 AM
5

Define game. Everyone in this sub thinks they're on the same page but everyone has a different idea of what it is.
/r/seduction04/05/13 02:55 PM
1

The short answer is yes. If you can't even elicit IOI's, you're doing it wrong. Why? Ask David DeAngelo; Attraction is not a choice!
/r/seduction30/04/13 08:39 PM
1

A poor post. This is not seduction material. This is self help. A chapter in Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people" should be all one ever has to read on the subject. Relying on gimmicks like this does nothing in relation to the mating ritual.
/r/seduction29/04/13 08:38 AM
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Dude, take it from me, I'm 30 and still have a baby face. It doesn't mean anything. Neither does height. The sooner you get those hangups right out of your head the better, because they are totally wrong. Read the evolutionary psychology part of the Mystery Method to get the right idea about what women want. Start being the organised one in your group of friends. Start going out and bringing people together. Being the one who is in control but is willing to let someone else take the reigns if it…
/r/seduction26/04/13 05:14 AM
1

You have to calibrate because you are both in different frames of mind from the previous encounter. This really means starting from the start. Same with running attraction phase. You'll quickly gauge where she's at then go from there.
/r/seduction21/04/13 12:00 PM
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Yes there were IOIs, I don't think the rest is relevant. So you don't think it's relevant whether she is worth your time or not? Realistically, in practice, you don't go to a gym to score; you're there to work out and leave other people to work out. If you have been pulling chicks left right and centre in the evening at bars and clubs and the next day you go to a gym and it happens automatically because you have residual energy, well that's an exception to the rule. What did you have her number …
/r/seduction18/04/13 12:48 AM
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Lame. It should be no big deal. Why is she even in your mind? Next that bitch! Deleting her number was lame. Why didn't you keep it for the future when you organise a group activity to invite her to? Clearly you creeped her out at the gym but still you could have rescued your impression to her by being in control of your emotions and inviting her out with you and a bunch of other people. Also, from your post, you sound desperate. If you are a regular at the climbing gym, then perhaps don't shit …
/r/seduction18/04/13 12:15 AM
2

Here's some good advice: Study hard and fast. The women will still be there after you have gotten yourself a degree. If you are already ahead of the course and you can spare a day or two per week to socialise, then do what you can to be the social hub and the organiser of things. But make sure it comes second to your study.
/r/seduction15/04/13 12:40 AM
1

Great, watch me try harder.
/r/seduction08/04/13 12:08 AM
1

cute rhetoric, though. "Rhetoric" must be your new word. But seriously, Well my frame is the dhv, push-pull, double your way of the superior david deida frame. Also, SCIENCE. David Deida? lol. Okay what are you a Christian Scientist or something? I thought you were a bit fanatical with your last post. Have some kool-aid and simmer down pal!
/r/seduction07/04/13 11:52 PM
0

My post is based on the Attraction, Comfort, Seduction frame. Also evolutionary biology. You're the "just be confident, confidence is sexy" kind of guy who doesn't get laid. Because he is not confident. Maybe part your post would apply to someone who's interested purely in sex Uh yeah, aren't you? Sex comes first, kid, relationship later. Or just hand your balls right over and place them in her purse.
/r/seduction07/04/13 11:07 PM
1

Wow you're a regular, right on, internet expert! I bet you have the creamiest coloured chainmail! The wonderful thing about the net is the uncensored expression that takes place on it. Thanks for your input.
/r/seduction07/04/13 10:52 PM
4

Your perspective is very r/relationships. The scenarios you posed: man considering whether or not to go to the door to pick up a woman This is a second date. After sexual intercourse. Either way, I would still be wondering why I am picking a woman up from her place on the second date considering I am still effectively qualifying her as I do not know too much about her at this stage. A simple phone call or short series of texts to arrange a meetup should suffice at this early a juncture. man in t…
/r/seduction07/04/13 03:48 PM
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Well, maybe it does or does not exist. Regardless, is it even useful in the first place to make it your focus? You don't get confident by the act of considering where your self esteem is at. You get confident by the certainty of having done something and the knowledge you can do it again. Maybe OP means one should look out for how a girl is feeling when you approach her. I say don't bother. Feelings are fickle and you cannot wait around for them to change on their own. Especially in other people…
/r/seduction07/04/13 03:30 PM
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tits or gtfo It's obvious you have only been here for about a week as the insight you have offered is indeed useful...for other women. If we take your advice and start to focus on a girls "self esteem" (if such a thing really exists) then we become misaligned with our own needs as men and devalue our own quick system of judgement. Self esteem measurement is a woman's slower judgement system. Women observe behaviour's over a period of time to assess suitability of strength of character and surviv…
/r/seduction07/04/13 03:15 PM
1

You were too slow off the mark. She was attracted to you at first but you killed it by waiting for permission to bed her.
/r/seduction24/03/13 11:17 AM
2

Cool post about grinding!
/r/seduction24/03/13 10:36 AM
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b) I don't like anything that fucks with your mind. So you don't want to hang out with women in case they fuck with your mind? You just want to control them with pickup technique, fuck them and go on with your life? ..idk, it just scares the shit out of me for some reason Yeh, exactly. You're scared. Try throwing yourself into adversity rather than waiting for it to come to you after attempting to micro-manage every detail of your life. If you can't handle a hangover or the taste of certain alco…
/r/seduction24/03/13 10:18 AM
1

"Well I'm a guardian angel, you must be on my list somewhere...give me your best smile and I'll bump you near the top!"
/r/seduction22/03/13 07:43 AM
1

I like to stick to talking about the mating ritual. It seems most people in seddit these days want to talk about self help, working out at the gym, having goals, having passions, ANYTHING but picking up women and how they actually go about it. I'm just going to say it now, this sub went downhill when TofuTofu took over and it became all about an extension of his life rather than sticking to THE game. You don't see game analysis these days, you don't see minute-by-minute field reports. You see un…
/r/seduction11/03/13 11:34 AM
3

You have a flawed understanding of what a shit test is. Just like you are saying you should be ready to walk away from a harpy who is shit testing you, what is it you think women are doing when they treat you mean? They are getting rid of you because they have worked out that what you have shown of yourself so far is not worth their time.
/r/seduction10/03/13 11:29 PM
1

The mating ritual has a sequence that works when you send the right signals at the right time.
/r/seduction09/03/13 07:30 PM
1

Qualify.
/r/seduction08/03/13 12:26 PM
3

I think it says more about the type of guys you've been seeing if they don't have a trash can in their bathroom.
/r/seduction08/03/13 04:55 AM
26

It might be an idea for you to read his books. First and foremost, status is built into him from the start. He is noticably the focus of a film camera. This bumps his status up a little. He is peacocking his cowboy hat/bandana/various accessories which suggests he is someone high status enough who can carry it off. He hasn't specifically targeted the female so it's not a cold approach. She gets his attention and opens him. "Hey!".... 00:28 He puts his fists up, faux-boxing her, as a means to dis…
/r/seduction04/03/13 08:33 AM
1

I'm 5'7. I've taken girls home who are six feet or so. No biggy. I pretty much go through the mystery method when I game but in a more relaxed way. That is, I don't give a shit if I stick to it or not. I also make it a point to kino a lot. Once you get over the fact that girls don't really care about your height, no matter what they say, even if they say they exclusively go for tall guys, once you get over that, you'll completely forget about your height.
/r/seduction04/03/13 07:06 AM
1

I usually let the warning signs drift away into something I can't put my finger on, as if I was supposed to remember something.... because I like sticking my dick in crazy!
/r/seduction26/02/13 11:08 AM
1

Women are always judging men. They are also always on the lookout for guys who change for the better. You can be one of those guys. Women are always changing their minds about people. Your personality is not static. Nobodies is. So don't waste anytime focusing as you were on a temporary idea of yourself. We all change all the time. Just make it happen faster by doing it consciously, deliberately and in a measured way. Set a target and chart your progress.
/r/seduction19/02/13 08:25 PM
2

Hey everyone in here...guess what! If you are smiling at other people you can be considered to be manipulative on account that you are trying to elicit a reaction. Chill out with the whole tyler is manipulative stuff. He's a good motivator and should probably be compensated for going and doing where and what others haven't.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:29 AM
1

This is really a questions for r/relationships.
/r/seduction17/02/13 08:56 AM
1

.....
/r/seduction12/02/13 07:01 PM
3

I actually plan on addressing this subject more thoroughly in my book* note:This article is, first and foremost, sales literature. Step 1: Stop caring how hot they are (The ratings scale). No you don't throw it out. You become realistic about the girls you are after. Few people on seddit have ever even approached a real 10. 10's are high-profile singers, models, businesswomen etc. and they look stunning. THEY have social proof like a motherfucker. Surrounded by beautiful and talented people. THA…
/r/seduction10/02/13 01:55 PM
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Wow that was a really funny response. I've never quite seen this level of wit in seddit before. I especially like the part where you imply that all it takes to get you interested is any old pair of tits in your face. At least you're not shy about telegraphing your discrete status value here.
/r/seduction07/02/13 11:19 AM
1

Game her by the book. Do you get IOIs from her? Is she escalating you because you sufficiently qualify her? If she is really a 10 - which is just an indication of your perception - then you had better have mad social proof. You better be fucking someone else right now for her to fight over you for. Your best bet if you don't have any other ten friends is to keep her as a wing for social proof. And stop thinking with your dick for five minutes, run down a list of what about her you would not put …
/r/seduction05/02/13 07:52 PM
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Be more specific, perhaps with a FR. Generally, I would simply not ask them out on a date or whatever. I would have the date there and then. lrn2mysterymethod.
/r/seduction05/02/13 12:13 AM
1

That's exactly what I'm saying as per your circumstance. You kissed her and gave her what she wants. You didn't get what you wanted. If you kiss her, you really should be willing to go all the way right there and then. Kiss, kino-escalate, taxi back to yours/hers. Etc. You gave her the store with the keys and everything in it. She didn't have to work for it. Also: What element of game am I missing? You're not telling us which element of game you're using.
/r/seduction28/01/13 01:45 PM
1

The last girl I picked up, I didn't kiss her once until I took her home to my place where we fucked. I still did some solid game with her. Make of that what you will.
/r/seduction28/01/13 10:20 AM
1

Flesh out the story a bit more. Nobody owes you answers here, so make it a bit more appealing for them to help you. If you're not sure how, read a field report or two.
/r/seduction28/01/13 09:15 AM
4

There's absolutely nothing to learn from this advertisement in relation to picking up women. Everything about it is contrived bullshit. Every event within the ad is fake. This has no bearing on really attracting women and leading a fun life. Mods, come on....
/r/seduction27/01/13 12:55 PM
4

If you can't pick them up when they're laying their pussies in your hand, you'll never work it out.
/r/seduction21/01/13 12:12 PM
1

No chance. Those words will only deeply offend him. It's like calling him ignorant and stupid.
/r/seduction20/01/13 01:36 PM
0

The plan is that I will cool it for 2 weeks (I'm going overseas anyway for work) and go back - if he gives me shit again, I'll go to the general manager (who I'm friends with on Facebook and know really well). Pretty sure he would have my back because I was there on Thursday with a personal trainer I picked up at the gym and introduced her to him and he offered us some drinks. Doucheknuckle you've been caught out now. You totally sound like you're an approval seeker. That you were "with a person…
/r/seduction20/01/13 01:32 PM
2

tl;dr. Realistically, PUAs must practice taking the attitude that it's no big deal if they blow a set (in the beginning, when learning their chops!!!) but that they learn from their mistake and move on to the next. Reacting too much to theframe here makes it more of a reality.
/r/seduction20/01/13 01:22 PM
1

Not really. You simply have to learn fast when you're out there and get over the fundamentals as soon as you can and swim, or sink. People are unforgiving, especially when they are your audience for the night.
/r/seduction20/01/13 01:16 PM
2

Forcefully removing him in an unnecessary and embarrassing manner is a douche move. Yeh but bar staff just don't do this. Nor do bouncers unless someone has said something to them about you. OP has been going in there with the attitude that he is getting one over on people like a sociopath. Bars and clubs need less of these types.
/r/seduction20/01/13 01:11 PM
3

From a bar manager point of view, perhaps he sees you come across as sleazy. Perhaps indeed, you are? A bar manager wants people having fun and drinking lots of booze. I mean, do you even know the bar staff? It's THEIR territory! It's NOT a public place. You have to concentrate on giving value first rather than just working on "warm-up sets" for your own benefit. If you're a regular!? and the manager doesn't like you, then you're a sleazeball. I would probably have a word with you too if I saw y…
/r/seduction20/01/13 12:57 PM
2

Who cares? If you're doing it all for the right reasons and you're both having fun, then play on. edit: I run Mystery Method game BLATANTLY on women. Because I just don't care if they know I'm messing with them, as long as we're having a laugh. Women also blatantly do what they can to manipulate and tease me. Guess what? I don't care either. It's the difference between having a girl know how to give a mind-blowing blowjob because she has practiced on other guys than having a girl really awkward …
/r/seduction20/01/13 12:36 PM
6

It's called the flow state. It's not just 'State' like some PUA marketing would have you believe. I'm a musician and when I am at my best on stage and in the flow state, it's because I've already done all the hard work at home and in rehearsal. I've already practiced. I've already repeated a lick two hundred times. I've already played the setlist until I hated every song and then went beyond that until I love it again. I've done the shit forwards and backwards and in every key. Slowly and quickl…
/r/seduction14/01/13 11:13 AM
1

Great. But judging by your approach here today, you seem lacking in the spontaneous contribution of performance. Pickup is a mating ritual and a social performance. Have you read the Mystery Method? For some STRAANGE reason it is all but completely buried on this subreddit. I don't know WHY it has not been put on the sidebar as a fundamental part of seduction, but it's where all this pickup stuff derived from. Consider it the assembly language whereas the rest is html. You are performing when yo…
/r/seduction12/01/13 07:26 AM
1

Yeh, but more info than that is needed about what you are doing when on a first date. What do you want from "dating"? Where are you going? Have you read the sidebar?
/r/seduction12/01/13 03:13 AM
1

Are you fat? Boring? Bad breath? Weak looking? Careerless and prospectless? Living with your mother? Giving off gay vibes? Racist? Homophobic? Passionless? Woefully uneducated? Scared? A teenager? A bit more info required here.
/r/seduction12/01/13 02:21 AM
3

I always get annoyed (not to their face) with girls who've rejected me Maybe that's why you came here, to learn another way to behave? risking the other girl getting jealous But surely women are attracted to risk-takers?
/r/seduction04/01/13 11:10 AM
3

"Use the power of your mind to continually remind yourself, “I am an alpha male!” and “the ladies want ME!”… by telling yourself this over and over," -Yeh that'll get you laid, repeating affirmations. Forget experience and hard graft. "You can use your clothing and fashion sense to illustrate your self-confidence" -really? I pick up pretty decent girls wearing wrinkled non-ironed shorts and t-shirt and I'm at least a stone overweight, all of the excess being on my belly. Haha. This article sucks…
/r/seduction04/01/13 10:53 AM
0

Cool story. Now be a darling wont you and shut the door on your way out of r/seduction.
/r/seduction24/12/12 12:56 PM
0

You seem awfully concerned about how I conduct myself, sugar-tits. I thought you were too good for the likes of me? Although I'm sure all the girls posting on a pickup forum think the same thing.
/r/seduction23/12/12 02:53 PM
1

I wouldn't have it any other way hun.
/r/seduction23/12/12 02:25 PM
0

So youre saying youre a spectator ?One of the things you learn from pickup is what women say they want is often vastly different from what they do want.
/r/seduction23/12/12 01:36 AM
1

That sounds all well and good until we assume some of these behaviours and then incite a little competition for you with a female wing. The narcissists are the most predictable lays.
/r/seduction22/12/12 11:30 PM
0

Dude, you're still young, your hormones will settle down in your early to mid twenties.
/r/seduction09/12/12 06:22 AM
1

Nice progress. One thing...are you qualifying these girls? Because if, deep down, you're not really interested in them, they will subconsciously realise this and give you a wide berth.
/r/seduction09/12/12 06:16 AM
1

IOI's
/r/seduction29/11/12 01:53 PM
1

Nah dude. The fact you approached her is because you have balls. Just like beauty on a woman, balls on a guy is common. What she then had to do was screen you. Filter you out by ruffling your feathers. She did it well. She feigned distaste and you walked away, tail between your legs. If I had uttered that line, which I most certainly would not have as an introduction, I would have met her feigned aloofness with further, unaffected, unperturbed banter/stories/jokes so as to demonstrate value befo…
/r/seduction25/11/12 10:54 AM
2

You don't want to pick up this girl but you're approaching her in a nightclub and posting on a pickup forum? hhhhmmmmkay. Just be honest with yourself about your intentions. And if you find yourself with no desire to bed some girl but you want to go up to her and offer NO VALUE whatsoever by telling her about her beautiful eyes, then stop masturbating! Because you are discharging your very useful testosterone levels with every fap which is making you do this stupid shit. Of course if you want to…
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:19 AM
5

Question: How would you feel if some average girl comes up to you and says, "Hey, I just wanted to say that you have such a nice stable job and apartment and an attractive earnings potential!"? How about if she was the fifth female to tell you so that day? Your approach was incredibly beta. It's not just a numbers game out there if you want quality. You don't just throw random words at the crowd until it sticks. You do and say things on purpose to elicit a desired response. Even children get thi…
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:10 AM
1

Because a lot of guys here don't have the change in paradigm to consider they haven't really bothered to satisfy the girls they are dating as per their biological imperative. That they need strong, resilient men to potentially look after their women and prospective children. This is why after many subtle female signals that some men cannot perceive that the relationship they thought they were a part of has run its course and that they have failed to notice and respond that they were not keeping …
/r/seduction16/10/12 10:50 AM
-13

She either responds to attraction material, kino and the rest of my game or she doesn't. Usually the first time her boyfriend stuff comes up is the next morning when he calls her when I'm sleeping next to her and I can hear her trying to keep things vague so I don't know who she's talking to and he doesn't know there's someone with her. It's funny every time. Usually the guy on the other end of the line is acting super needy by this point because his spidey sense is off the scale. Nothing is eve…
/r/seduction15/10/12 08:26 AM
2

I do notice that she doesn't really ask me many questions about myself though. Because you already told her everything about you. I assume you recall what you both said from text messages. Texting is for arranging a meet-up only. If you can't arrange a meet-up in three texts, you're doing it wrong. M: Well I can say on my deathbed that I asked an attractive Turkish girl to coffee :-) You sold out early here. Broke the sexual tension. Igoumenitsa Greece with some stops along the way at ancient Gr…
/r/seduction14/10/12 10:30 PM
1

Told what to do? Who can tell you what to do? Even if it's your manager or the owner of the business you work for, and they're barking orders at you as if you've just shit your pants and placed them on the kitchen table between the Sunday roast and the Brussels sprouts, the only guy who can let them do this is you. A real alpha response is to immediately find humour in their attempt to control you with their display of obvious anxiety. Just find it funny that they don't appear to know a graceful…
/r/seduction11/10/12 11:14 AM
1

k
/r/seduction12/09/12 03:45 AM
1

Well this is where your discernment comes into play. You don't just put your dick in crazy. Once you have been gaming awhile, you learn to pick the girls who are equally as sexually liberated and relaxed about it.
/r/seduction12/09/12 02:20 AM
0

How is the seduction phase done? Surely this is the comfort phase at most? In my experience you have to start again briefly at the attraction phase when you have the date to transition to comfort which is where you spend most of your time before moving her to your apartment/sleeping area where you seduce her.
/r/seduction11/09/12 04:35 PM
2

Lol fuck that! Some of the hottest chicks work in restaurants. Don't be so uptight. We all want to fuck, including our co workers. I screwed quite a few of the barmaids I worked with and we all kept it discreet. If you can't handle controversy, just keep masturbating.
/r/seduction11/09/12 03:09 PM
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I don't care how or why you dumped her. Just don't go making out you're the white knight and that somehow you improved her before giving her a soft landing. It's bull. A bit like your version of events and reasons for dumping her. the relationship was not emotionally viable anymore That doesn't even mean anything. You are bullshitting yourself about your reasons for ditching her and then coming on here to white knight about leaving her better than you found her. Hardly seduction advice. HOW did …
/r/seduction30/08/12 01:43 PM
-4

Remember, always leave a girl better than you found her. This is just plain ignorance and arrogance. You don't really know what is best for anyone other than you. If I were you, while you're still new to this, I would nip that notion in the bud right now. Tend to you own garden, let others manage theirs.
/r/seduction30/08/12 09:53 AM
1

Hands off my organic produce and obscure jazz!!
/r/seduction30/08/12 05:00 AM
3

You don't backstab your friends. Find some new ones or if you haven't done so, you make the rules crystal clear about backing off when you have closed a girl. Fair enough if you are good friends who have a sporting competition to pull girls, but once your man has scored, you back off, not your territory anymore, time to find another girl. Bro's before... Don't get me wrong, I have f-closed girls in the past and given my blessing for my friend to pursue, he likewise returned the gesture. Guy frie…
/r/seduction27/08/12 09:27 AM
1

This guy is on here because he can't even set up a date right. Yeh guys are more stupid than girls when it comes to dating. You got it in one.
/r/seduction24/08/12 06:06 AM
-1

Well that's lying to yourself and her, and she will know, because women aren't stupid.
/r/seduction23/08/12 08:02 PM
2

I'll meet a woman, spend a good amount of time with her and we'll setup a drinks and appetizers date for later in the week. Did you escalate with her immediately? Probably not. You probably didn't convey sexual intent. When I text them the day of the date to confirm they reply with .... When you do X, they do x. You are generalising here. This means you are still exhibiting a pattern based approach to all women you meet. Notice this. You meet a woman, you do x, then they do x? What all of them? …
/r/seduction23/08/12 07:59 PM
0

See the sidebar, read the FAQ, and ask if this is really the place for your question. P.S. Sidebar's thataway------------>
/r/seduction22/08/12 02:04 PM
6

Cool story bro, but you sound like a nob. A special kind, headed straight for a breakdown of some description. That's not personal mind, just an analysis to what you wrote. It's about as helpful to noobs as Just Do It. I mean, was the woman hot? Any day of the week I can dump a ribbon of molten silver goodness into a random chick by walking twenty metres to the nearest bar but that doesn't mean she is quality. She might be up for a dirty fuck but it doesn't mean I'm into her. It doesn't mean she…
/r/seduction22/08/12 10:36 AM
3

So, OP, how many women have you picked up...ever? When I see the day that women refrain from inciting a competitive play-off between guys who are into her, I will quit with the games. Until then, we shall engage in a playful mating ritual hard-wired into our DNA. Essentially you're asking some men to quit having poor game. It's like telling fat women to cut back on the mac n cheese; a good idea in and of itself but your words will be carried away in the winds of distraction.
/r/seduction18/08/12 03:53 AM
0

Yes that was a shit test, it's right there in the words. She sees you as calm and laid back and is testing you to see if this is your true nature. It's almost not a shit test in that it is a direct question. However in that she is probing you in the first place and second guessing you, your motives, your character, your resolve etc. well that can sometimes just be a pain in the ass, but it is definitely a test.
/r/seduction12/08/12 11:31 PM
2

Is it because you're a president and can't be seen cavorting with the proles?
/r/seduction12/08/12 07:35 AM
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Not speaking for THE community, speaking for A LARGE PORTION OF the community; because I have read posts by a lot of people who share my opinion and a few (like yourself) who don't. When did the voting happen when you were nominated as spokeshole? It must have been very undemocratically done. I suggest now, as you're continuing to try and win a lost argument that you are full of shit and warrant no further attention. God be with you.
/r/seduction12/08/12 07:31 AM
-2

in which case you have an opposing view to mine (as well as a large portion of the community) So you're speaking for the community then? I think I'm done here.
/r/seduction12/08/12 07:26 AM
-2

....And where did I mention the word community in what I wrote? You may be part of the hive mind, subservient to the greater good, but I am not a part of any community. If you're a married man and you are regularly flirting with other women, you would be advised to have a mutual understanding with your spouse that this is acceptable behaviour for the both of you or you will find yourself in trouble. This is r/seduction, not r/marriedguysplayawayfromhome.
/r/seduction12/08/12 07:25 AM
-2

So you don't pickup women and you don't do anything suggested in this subreddit? You're just a passive reader and you never try to influence anyone, never mind women? I doubt you can really accuse me of speaking for any community. What exactly is it you bring to the table anyway?
/r/seduction12/08/12 07:11 AM
-2

There is morality in truth. I stand by what I said. By learning and practicing pick up, the OP is going to expose himself to circumstances that will lead to extra-marital affairs. He can teach his sons pick up until he is blue in the face, but by going out and practicing, by his and, no doubt, his wife's definition, he will already be 'cheating'. Unless they have agreed implicitly that their relationship is a freer one and the practice of seduction is acceptable, then he otherwise is lying to hi…
/r/seduction12/08/12 07:07 AM
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lol no, I didn't! Hahaah. Okay OP, forget most of what I said, just go with the talking thing. Start talking to everyone. Have fun. Make lots of friends. Make a big social scene and meet some really cool people, hook them up with other cool people.
/r/seduction11/08/12 08:52 AM
-2

Develop skills? Either you want to fuck other women or you don't. It's best not to lie to yourself or it'll all end in tears. Prepare your children for high school by teaching them how to learn, not how to pick up chicks. For a start, by calling what we do cheating, you are cheating yourself out of a basic primal urge to pass your genes on via as many vessels (lol) as you can. To make it easy on yourself and just so you can't be accused of "cheating" you should discuss this with your wife. Or...…
/r/seduction11/08/12 08:38 AM
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You got AMOG'd. She wanted to fuck your friend. That's the truth. He was more entertaining than you. We set up to meet tonight and she comes and picks me up. What the hell does this all mean? "We set up"? "WE?" NO! It's up to YOU to control the venues and the location of the meeting (don't call it a frickin date - you 'guys' are hanging out). "she comes and picks me up."?? what, like a little lost puppy who peed on the carpet? Before I continue, allow me to preface that very openly bisexuals are…
/r/seduction11/08/12 07:14 AM
2

staring excessively at girls, saying inappropriate things, making girls uncomfortable, etc. All behaviours that women would forgive in a heartbeat if you had the social proof of a couple of hot girls on your arms. Not forgivable by themselves but to put it all in perspective.
/r/seduction10/08/12 04:27 AM
-1

Who is opening with compliments? Generally no that's just not pickup. They've heard it all before x1000 and it just makes them feel awkward and/or think you want something out of them. Much better to tell them a story, a joke, a factoid, an interesting thing you just though up and that's for daygame.
/r/seduction05/08/12 06:55 PM
-1

I didn't say it's ridiculous to compliment a girl you just met. It's really nice in fact and they will like it, but it's not going to get you laid by any girl over the age of eighteen. And as for just going out there to gather experience, i have to disagree on this one. People like Mystery already went out there for years and put in the hard work and intense frustration of continual knock-backs to figure universal things out for others so we didn't have to spend years being clueless. I considere…
/r/seduction05/08/12 06:35 PM
8

Also, you know what? I find that whenever I am out and was reluctant about it, it mostly ends up being a great time. Twice this week I was reluctant to go out and they both ended in full closes. I'm talking no money, shit to do the next day, worries on my mind etc. A bunch of numbers and f-closes really puts your whining on the backburner for a while.
/r/seduction05/08/12 06:04 PM
-1

It doesn't matter. SHE didn't stop for him. Perhaps it was because he told her she was cute as an approach?! An IOI before qualifying, before DHVing, before anything. He stood in her way and she chose the least confrontational way of getting rid of him. So just to confine it to what little info ChefPorkchop gave us (unless there is more info) I'll reiterate that she was unimpressed/unattracted to how he displayed himself in the brief approach to the extent she found the interaction undesirable e…
/r/seduction05/08/12 05:51 PM
6

No chance. This is a standard-ass shit test. Are you into following women or showing them you can lead? The conversation got pretty awkward once she reached her friend. Yeh you bet your ass it did. A friend of mine went on a date the other night and he told me "it went alright", they went to a couple of places and then they met up with her friend too. Bam! As soon as he told me about that I didn't ask him any more out of pity because the girl at some point decided he was not attractive enough no…
/r/seduction05/08/12 10:09 AM
1

Come to Australia and I'll make you eat your words.
/r/seduction04/08/12 09:46 AM
1

Upped. I really like your contribution here. It's not often I find a females advice within this subreddit honest and thoughtful.
/r/seduction04/08/12 09:38 AM
1

Conversely, and from experience, I have recently discovered that tall women like to fuck short guys too. I'm five-seven and have been at it with six feet three chicks. It's a revelation indeed. However, having been with them, I find myself being less attracted to them because I don't have the instinctive urge to protect them. Weird. But whatever, women are there for the taking when you're already living a good life.
/r/seduction04/08/12 09:20 AM
1

Haha that last sentence was hilarious, what flicks have you been watching lately?
/r/seduction04/08/12 09:16 AM
1

Quit believing your own bullshit. You're subconsciously telling yourself this crap because you're protecting yourself from risk. Some of my most physically attractive male friends are Asian and get no end of action. Women scan for behaviours not looks.
/r/seduction04/08/12 09:12 AM
1

In Ireland? Well, don't start approaching in clubs to begin with until you have approaching in pubs and approaching in the street checked off your list! There's nothing to it pal, just go up to someone and say, "Hey what's going on?" The girl may be nervous herself and mightn't reply with anything straight away so you just continue by telling her what you're up to that day that is particularly new or interesting. When you begin to say stuff that they find interesting and that holds their attenti…
/r/seduction03/08/12 10:17 PM
0

Boyfriend? Until they have a wedding ring on their finger then the term boyfriend is pretty relative to me, especially if the young lass in question has her hands all over me. Boyfriend also often means "I don't yet know if I want to sleep with you so I will see if you give up at this first hurdle I throw you. I'm hoping you're the kind of guy that is used to the company of hot girls and you don't care too much if we don't sleep with one another...even though we still might...because that tells …
/r/seduction29/07/12 05:10 PM
1

Hey thanks for your input. I now realise, looking back since I lost my best friend, that I fit the bill for your symptoms of depression. Sometimes you just don't have a clue until someone spells it out for you. I drank booze with bottle ready friends for months to deal with his death rather than sit through the pain. It was a conscious choice at the time but it has dragged on too far now and I'm calling it a day as it no longer serves a purpose. When you posited the thing about leading a fulfill…
/r/seduction28/07/12 05:43 AM
1

The first sentence in your title seems a bit accusatory.
/r/seduction07/07/12 01:41 PM
1

It's just a game.
/r/seduction07/07/12 05:45 AM
1

"Yeah anytime... maybe we can drag [married middle aged woman coworker we both know] out for a night on the town as well haha!! {his #}" She has his number.
/r/seduction07/07/12 02:52 AM
19

Two things; First, my 'man' advice : You call her (him!) up because toneless facebook messages tend to leave ambiguous meanings in the air like you have on your hands. But seriously, you would have to be retarded not to realise he is just trying to diffuse the sexual tension by joking about bringing a middle aged woman on a date with you. So to answer your first question, NO it wasn't a classic deployment of a third party to put you off dating him (this is a womans tactic!), it was a piece of hu…
/r/seduction06/07/12 06:59 AM
7

One of the things I commonly see is people spouting the trite sentiment that we should "Leave a girl better than you found her.", as if we know what is best for a woman. I find this to be an arrogant, foolish, meddlesome and controlling idea born out of self-desperation and so futile in conception given that the individuals choice is disregarded. It stinks of the nanny state and those who make her up. People criticise PUA for being manipulative but at least we benefit from modifying OUR OWN beha…
/r/seduction04/07/12 02:24 AM
1

You're too jittery. Better practice gaming girls who you've never met before rather than potentially mess up a friendship with a chick you might not even be attracted to but it's just that you want anyone because you're used to being in a relationship. I may have misjudged you but I bet there's a lot of truth in what I said.
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:10 PM
2

Full exposure to as many sources as possible followed by field experiments. Bit by bit. One week I would just test out disqualifiers. The next I would test kino escalation. The next I would try out DHV stories. The next I would test out saying hi to lots of people in the street and smiling. I sat and wrote out mystery method routines just to internalise the general concepts rather than go out and spend a shit tonne of cash in nightclubs. I tested concepts out with female friends without them kno…
/r/seduction28/06/12 02:28 PM
1

I just don't support your presupposition here. If you defined "asshole" and cited some people who think "confidence=asshole" then I may give it a second thought. Don't ever be an asshole to someone for any reason, especially to get laid. Surely it's up to the choice of the individual as to how they want to attract girls. There certainly are women out there who prefer being treated roughly. I know this from personal experience. To me it is the exact opposite, you are then just looking to get tail…
/r/seduction23/06/12 04:37 PM
2

Have fun while doing it. Are you having fun? Are you having a laugh? It changes your focus.
/r/seduction21/06/12 12:53 AM
3

"I'm also strong, virile and an excellent driver."
/r/seduction18/06/12 02:46 AM
2

Mate, you did get results. Those being that you are not BEING sufficiently attractive for the girl to number close you. It's how you respond to this that makes the difference. Anyone who says they get consistent f-closes after a month reading seddit is not telling the whole picture. Do more reading and find more sources for your questions because you won't find the answers from seddit alone.
/r/seduction18/06/12 02:32 AM
1

By twice, I mean on two occasions. From your fourth paragraph on, you are listing IOI after IOI. It's up to you to ramp up the Kino and create comfort from thereon. Have a laugh mind, don't take this too seriously.
/r/seduction17/06/12 02:58 AM
2

You had her. Twice. But then you asked her for permission which turned her right off because she needs plausible deniability. She needs you to be the one making the first move, leaning in and kissing her. She needs you to have the confidence to know she is into you without her cradling you to certainty. My personal rule when I am picking up and in the comfort phase is to count three IOI's from her and move in to kiss. Of course I will have lain the groundwork by kino escalation already. You don'…
/r/seduction16/06/12 11:58 AM
-5

I find that giving them a good, fast, hard, long fucking until they're exhausted and have come a few times makes them want to please you in any way they know how.
/r/seduction09/06/12 04:29 PM
-1

I would seriously just pay money for sex with a good looking hooker. Just to break the generalisation that is your learned and constructed identity. You cannot be a virgin when you've had sex. Get it done, then the pressure's off somewhat for dating. After that, come back here and fill your head full of theory and hit the bars and clubs to test the tricks. Make things easy on yourself.
/r/seduction09/06/12 04:26 PM
-1

is nothing more then gaining understanding of... There's no shortcut to a truly legitimate and satisfying sex life then crafting yourself.... perplexed you or negatively effected you... All we need to do to ameliroate the female ... I hope English is your second language. And this "We" nonsense you're barking on about? I for one am not in your "We". Count me out.
/r/seduction08/06/12 07:38 AM
1

You have no idea and you're going to fuck it up. Do shit-tonnes more seddit reading and field experimentation.
/r/seduction07/06/12 12:24 PM
3

She doesn't give a crap who you were with at the start of the relationship. She is either using your guilt about it as leverage to do what she wants and/or she is shit testing you to see if you give a fuck. As I said though, this isn't the place for relationship advice. This subreddit started out as pickup. The mods then let the topic get watered down with self-help inner game stuff but its all built on top of mysterys model, attract,comfort,seduction. So you're going to be acting on advice filt…
/r/seduction06/06/12 01:58 AM
2

Walk around your neighbourhood pretending you're a locust. Rub your arms together and tell people you're just preening yourself. It is endearing behaviour that will win friends and influence people.
/r/seduction05/06/12 11:08 PM
12

My pleasure mate, don't get me wrong though, I'm not hating on women either, I'm just a realist. Men and women both have opposing drives and I'm staying true to mine, so why not they to theirs?
/r/seduction05/06/12 10:37 AM
25

Well you can rest assured that they fucked. There's no two ways about it, she lied to you to protect your fragile feelings. MINI FR: - A couple of weeks ago I went back to a chicks place and we got it on. I knew nothing about her, not even her name. The next morning in bed, her phone rang and I lay there half asleep. I could tell it was a call she didn't want to take and a conversation she didn't want to be having. I actually found it funny watching her try to be discreet about it even though I …
/r/seduction05/06/12 08:38 AM
1

Remind yourself of what it is you want from women right now and in the next few years. You'll realise how you want to proceed with this girl.
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:22 AM
3

It's got to do with your beliefs and expectations becoming self-fulfilling. I'm 5'7" and until I got into PUA, I used to think tall women weren't attracted to me because they wanted taller guys to feel protected or whatever. Well it's all bullshit. Tall women fantasise about shorter guys just as much as anyone else. It's all to do with your behaviour and not physicality. In fact, I find that many really short women will gravitate towards really tall guys because they think their kids should be e…
/r/seduction27/05/12 10:24 AM
-4

Always keep a claw hammer at hand to pry open her fingers. Dude, she can't make you be in a relationship with her, nor can she make you fuck her. This shouldn't be an issue when you have friends with benefits. Either you're DTF or you're busy or you're not interested anymore. Any FWB is not going to be stuck for options either. If it's the case that she might become more attached. then she'll get over it.
/r/seduction24/05/12 01:07 PM
-27

Here's a soft landing: Tell her you're falling for her but you can't do relationships right now so you want to cool things off for a while.
/r/seduction24/05/12 12:44 PM
1

BUTT into their conversation and say something:- funnier, more interesting, more valuable, useful...etc. I mean, this is not really a seduction matter, unless you're trying to seduce a whole group of people at once. Trying to seduce a whole group of people at once takes rockstar talent. If you're trying to seduce women, which is what this subreddit (at least it used to be) is about, not self-help, then start talking to them in isolation. Start having them as your friends and getting them to intr…
/r/seduction23/05/12 01:34 PM
3

tribulus terrestris.
/r/seduction19/05/12 02:21 PM
2

Stop going on "dates" and start "hanging out". It's a simple change in perspective. It should always be no big deal if someone cancels on you, because you have several other people to call......unless you're socially inept...which of course, you aren't, because you've been meeting people and making friends(/with benefits).
/r/seduction18/05/12 11:34 AM
20

Agree and escalate. Agree with her, kino escalate. Use a jealousy plot. Get more social proof. Kino escalate. And never ask them out in the first place. They don't want the pressure of expectation. You simply tell them you're doing something fun at the weekend or whatever and does she want to hang. If you barely know her, it could be helpful to tell her you're doing something with friends and does she want to join. Keep it simple. Build a social scene and upkeep it.
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:59 AM
8

Here's my system: Just smile, nod and say, "hey!" If you are 'approaching' them, then you extend that initial Audible Interchange with a fairly technical follow up. I named the process the Audible Interchange Double Speaker. A.I.D.S. for brevity. You essentially follow up the first Speak with "What's going on?". In the field, this has been robustly tested and fully enables a PUA to stack forward and multi-thread on your armoury of canned material.
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:53 AM
5

This is so beta. If you want to meet a chick, just call her. Call her and invite her to something you have pre-organised. Most times when girls flake is because you have nothing planned out and you convey nothing but the same pussy-ass indecision and lack of certainty as you do when you tentatively approach her through text messages like this. Just call the girl, have a little small talk, invite her to your thing and if she's busy; who gives a fuck? because you have ten other numbers to call.
/r/seduction12/05/12 01:06 AM
2

Yes. Go out for drinks with workmates and meet their friends. Have fun with them and their friends then get their friends numbers. Organise nights out and include those new friends. Meet your new friends' friends. Rinse and repeat.
/r/seduction05/05/12 03:00 PM
1

You have analysis paralysis. You need to lighten up a bit and calm down a bit. You don't have to control everything. Some of your friends will turn out to be the kind of friends you will know for the rest of your life and some will turn out to be dickheads who you can't justify expending energy on because they are drainers. It's just life. Stay active and have as much fun as you can, without too much nitpicking and reflection because next week you might be dead.
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:08 PM
8

One time a friend and I were in a bar and nightclub discussing game and critiquing the piss poor desperate behaviour of a rather brutish hulk of a man who failed to impress a group of cute German girls. He persisted with them even though their body language was completely closed and even turned away. After a while he got up and left. my friend went for a smoke and I approached the 4 set. Sat right down, kicked back, feet on the table and opened. They had been ioi ing my friend and I for a while …
/r/seduction26/04/12 03:10 AM
2

Tell them you're not ready for a committed relationship. It's just not in your life plan right now. If you string them along pretending you do want a relationship then you are lying to them and it's unfair to them if they think they are going to have one with you.
/r/seduction08/04/12 11:39 AM
12

Tell her you're seeing someone.
/r/seduction10/03/12 03:40 PM
3

How is it unlike pulling any other chick? You should have isolated her, got her back to yours and fucked her brains out. Attraction, comfort, seduce. Like a script. Follow the rules and she'll follow you home. p.s. I totally banged my ex who broke my heart. And it was sweet as fuck. I made her realise what she gave up. We probably would have gotten back together too, but in a new way, seeing as we had both grown a lot since we were together. Sadly, I left the country for good.
/r/seduction05/03/12 08:21 PM
2

Yup what tofutofu said. Unless they are wearing a burqa and walking ten paces in front of their men, you should proceed as normal. You would probably find that being direct with them will get you far as most afc's would stand off because they don't know what to make of her religion and customs. Unless they are also muslims too of course. From my experience, they want your average James Bond archetype. So role play this kind of thing. Knight in shining armour, Tom Cruise vibe. But not gay. Or... …
/r/seduction05/03/12 06:25 PM
3

"All the worlds a stage, all the people merely players. " -Shakespeare paraphrase; You act, perform, behave in funny and interesting ways. Role play. Tell stories/jokes. Challenge others to do so. Entertain yourself, then others.
/r/seduction04/03/12 04:57 PM
1

who gives a fuck? go find another willing Fwb to go with your fwb.
/r/seduction28/02/12 11:03 AM
1

Fuck your job. Have some fun. Shag whomever you want if you can. Agree with the girl to keep it (secret) to yourselves, tell her you don't want to get attached. Be honest with them and you'll have a good time.
/r/seduction13/02/12 09:25 PM
5

The age difference is fine. Go and have fun with her. Don't take things too seriously and you can't go wrong.
/r/seduction31/01/12 02:21 PM
6

Ha what a joke. There is a legal age for a reason. She is no longer a minor, she's deemed an adult of sound mind and able to enter into a contract. I find it a bit offensive that you are already telling this guy he is going to harm this girl. Maybe that's what you would do. Not everyone thinks like you though.
/r/seduction31/01/12 02:19 PM
0

Don't say Hi, ask their name, ask any questions or whatever. Go straight into telling them a little story about what funny thing happened with your day and who you met etc. as if you two have already gotten the boring introduction out of the way and are already having a laugh with each other and flirting. By doing this you go straight into the stimulated state of mind and it infects her with stimulation also. Equally so, if you go up to her with a nervous introduction, she will mirror your state…
/r/seduction24/01/12 08:28 AM
-1

If you want to meet depressed girls, go for it. Really it all depends on how you want to relate to the world. By remembering and expressing shit feelings or recalling funny shit and good feelings.
/r/seduction19/01/12 12:06 PM
1

Talking first. Providing value to someone else by doing the talking. Telling them a story of what happened that day that I found funny, giving them a chance to contribute something similar that happened to them. Talking as much as possible and essentially entertaining them and me in the process. This was the most important change and the one that gets me the most tail.
/r/seduction19/01/12 12:04 PM
3

Texting is for arranging meet ups, not flirting and demonstrating value etc.
/r/seduction17/01/12 04:59 PM
1

My facial hair is rubbish. I sleep with hot chicks. End of.
/r/seduction17/01/12 02:38 PM
2

Yeh, the guy is giving her to you. GIVING her. Fuck man, I've got a festive period belly to get rid of. Thanks for reminding me.
/r/seduction16/01/12 03:54 AM
5

First of all...."Your friend"? ......e.g., how would you know it took him a while to "recollect himself". Just sayin'.... So it seems this girl is offering her bf pretty much what most guys on this subreddit is after... a fwb relationship, or the possibility thereof. The girl already cheated. If you want to call it cheating. Might have just been a long kissing session with a bit of groping or it could have been a fuck in an alley. Then again, by coming here, you should know how the game works in…
/r/seduction16/01/12 03:01 AM
-2

This sounds like shit game. I'm pretty sure this Manson fellow has nothing on the bare bones m3 model and the DiCarlo ladder. Ask yourself the question: "Is this what I want to do and how I want to make myself feel in order to meet and attract girls?". Basically, people don't socialise so they can wallow in the misery and depressing self examination of others. They go out to have fun, tell stories, jokes, insult each other, dance, show off, etc. If you're BEING lonely guy, you're not BEING popul…
/r/seduction10/01/12 12:00 PM
-2

OP is reading too much into what this girl said. She displayed no ability to articulate in what way "nice" guys are unattractive. She wouldn't realise what she found attractive until it was rammed, balls deep, down her throat in a public toilet. OP isn't getting laid because he respects idiotic statements like this as truth when the girl probably cut and pasted it from the nail-filing forum on OK! magazine, which incidentally is a subsection of the "Studies say 67% of women usually talk a comple…
/r/seduction10/01/12 10:45 AM
27

Give them your number, retard. You don't have to promise ANYTHING else. You can be friends with them for gods sake. They can introduce you to girls you may spend the rest of your life with. Or whatever else you want. It's a pussy move gaming girls and not at least exploring where it takes you, out of your comfort zone that is.
/r/seduction10/01/12 12:45 AM
1

Stick your dick right up crazy and come back with a FR. Fer science.
/r/seduction08/01/12 07:34 AM
0

Sole regret: not knowing about law, while young, and what it is and what it's not. Getting stung by the system for so long without examining what we all live under and how to side-step it. It's relevant to seduction, because when you're under intense stress due to the downward pressure of just-getting-by you can't feel good enough to game.
/r/seduction08/01/12 07:25 AM
2

Why put a name on it? If you weren't dating in the first place then what is it you're breaking off? Just don't lie to her because when she senses you are, she'll lose all respect for you. Don't lie to yourself either. Tell her you're not into relationships right now. You're not into getting too close to someone, whatever. If she's cool, keep her as a friend, just on the back burner, and concern yourself with meeting many other people/chicks. You don't have to pigeon-hole women so much. Treat her…
/r/seduction03/01/12 01:20 PM
2

Thanks for the info mate.
/r/seduction18/12/11 11:12 AM
3

Which author?
/r/seduction17/12/11 05:12 PM
-2

Sure, we make our own luck. A trite Martini commercial catering to the base desires and inadequacies of an invented male demographic has little to do with luck, however.
/r/seduction16/12/11 10:27 AM
2

Nice post, I haven't made it more than a week before knocking one out. I get near psychotic if it's any longer than that. Having said that, I will try it for a month to see the difference. Someone's probably going to get raped soon...consensual rape, that is.
/r/seduction15/12/11 06:39 AM
-8

I always leave them better than I found them...smiling half unconscious with a red raw vajayjay.
/r/seduction15/12/11 06:31 AM
1

To avoid being creepy, just fb her saying, "hey, I really enjoyed talking to you on the flight and remembered what your college and major was etc. if you're around on x-day, It would be great if you wanna meet me at x-afternoon event for a quick coffee/drink with me and my friends." With an afternoon date, a false time constraint the social proof of your friends (before you isolate her) and otherwise honesty you have more chance of getting a favourable response from this chick considering she di…
/r/seduction29/11/11 04:36 PM
11

I've read a lot of seddit. This is a sterling post. Saved.
/r/seduction26/11/11 05:48 AM
11

Yeh it must have been the table..
/r/seduction22/11/11 12:00 PM
1

Forget dance that is too technical and out of place with most western venues. You want to stick with dance that is done in 4/4. Latin music has an odd pulse, blues is in 12/8. Don't worry about the numbers if you don't understand music. Just feel the difference between dancing to them. Unless you're really into blues and latin music, just stick with moves you see on seventies disco videos. Think James Brown, Michael Jackson, even robot dancing lol. The reason we aren't dancing waltzes (3/4 time …
/r/seduction08/11/11 04:23 PM
1

The number scale is not about looks. You need to do a lot more learning.
/r/seduction27/10/11 11:49 PM
1

You capitalise nation if that is the name of your bar, which is hard to tell given the way you write. Furthermore, seeing as I spelled capitalise with an s, you may be able to infer I am definitely not American.
/r/seduction27/10/11 11:55 AM
0

Right, so is it too much to ask that you capitalise the N of Nation so that we know it is a proper noun?
/r/seduction27/10/11 09:21 AM
1

This is a game-free post. You have no idea what your customer did with this girl. You're getting mixed up with the guy subtly tooling you and how he may or may not have gamed her. We don't know where she is on the number scale in terms of her social appeal and there is no evidence anyone even attracted this girl.
/r/seduction27/10/11 09:16 AM
4

The target needs to be isolated at some point to continue to comfort phase. You didn't get out of attraction phase because of this. You successfully attracted the aggressive one because you got the three of them to compete for your attention. The aggressive one sub-communicated dominance to the other two and would have went home with you but you took too long to try to isolate her. Even though, well done, good gaming.
/r/seduction25/10/11 12:55 PM
2

lol, I upvoted you myself, I can't believe I even typed that. There's a hidden geek in even the smoothest of players.
/r/seduction21/10/11 12:17 AM
2

Hey, it's fundamental. But you read it when you're 18 so you can begin to make good friends on your own outwith your schooling institution. There is no pickup in there. Which is not to say I haven't picked up just by being the nice guy you develop into from practicing its content. But it doesn't teach you anything about mating ritual interaction between the sexes.
/r/seduction21/10/11 12:08 AM
-9

Why are we talking about your tits? Do you even KNOW how important my nuts are? They routinely fire billions of militarised tadpoles to lay siege to your puny eggs. And we always get a man in there.
/r/seduction20/10/11 01:15 PM
7

It's for making friends. Great for life in general but in a nightclub or party, you will get put right into friendzone if you base your pickup technique solely on this book.
/r/seduction20/10/11 12:56 PM
4

I don't care much about height anymore. I've begun successfully gaming tall girls because they want to fuck short guys too. Just as much as short guys want to get with taller girls. Height is not relevant if you have game.
/r/seduction15/10/11 09:12 PM
1

Train them separately to run jealousy plots with you so you can bang them both in a threesome. That should be a pretty instructive intro for them.
/r/seduction11/10/11 01:33 PM
3

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEST. Who cares if she's engaged? She was clearly flirting with you while her beta guy is at home secretly playing World of Warcraft. You could have kino'd her, isolated her, kino escalated her and k-closed or #-closed her. You could have been fingering her in the toilets if you had escalated far enough. You caught her IOI's but didn't qualify her. Assume attraction next time and realise that whenever they say they have a boyfriend etcetera, yet they are to…
/r/seduction11/10/11 01:19 PM
2

Height is fairly irrelevant if you are flipping their attraction switches over and over and escalating kino. Their biology is running them when you game like this. Their minds catch up with their body. Height doesn't matter when women love sex as much as they do.
/r/seduction10/10/11 02:04 AM
0

Don't analyse kino so much. This is a common problem when you're first figuring out pick-up and where your boundaries lie and you are in experimentation mode. Analysis and pickup can't be done at the same time. So, instead, kino everyone you like as a reward for good behaviour. DiCarlo's escalation ladder is an important read. But anyway, stop gaming in class, you're there to study you lazy bastard.
/r/seduction09/10/11 03:50 PM
0

dbar.
/r/seduction09/10/11 01:34 PM
1

Shit test. Start agreeing and relating a similar story about your ex girlfriend. It's quite simple really. It's also an invitation to DHV and social proof yourself. So just in case you're at all confused...maybe it is...maybe it isn't. YES it IS a shit test, she's probing you. She will do it multiple times too, so the first time you have to talk about your ex, the second you talk about another ex, the third you withdraw attention. Look at your watch, butt into her sentence and change the subject…
/r/seduction04/10/11 02:38 PM
1

Mate, get into Richard Bandler and CURE your dumbfuck panic attacks in 20 minutes. I'm still amazed that people put up with the stupid shit they routinely think about and the useless states they put themselves into. Run your own mind deliberately and you'll get what you want in life.
/r/seduction04/10/11 11:48 AM
24

Talk indirectly about other peoples sex lives. Compare hand sizes with her and all that shit. When she hugs you, reward her by groping her fucking ass without going for a faggy k-close. If she pulls away, immediately get on your phone and text a friend some bullshit;withdraw attention. If she is receptive, tell her you like her curves - they're so girly - and run your hands down the sides of her hips then (bait-hook-reel-release) get your phone out and show her a tongue twister and get her to sa…
/r/seduction04/10/11 10:11 AM
1

Assume attraction. who gives a fuck about "boyfriends"? She's either lying to you about having one or she has one but is down to fuck anyway. Girls who are tight with their boyfriends do not rock up to some random dudes bbq and smoke pot with their father. Although you assume attraction, backpeddle a little and fire off her attraction switches through some anecdotes. Do it blatantly as well. Create MORE attraction and side step her tests. Quit smoking weed or cut right down a.s.a.p if you want t…
/r/seduction04/10/11 09:47 AM
1

It takes two to tango.
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:26 AM
2

Do what the fuck you want to. If you fuck up gaming your target, well it becomes uncomfortable for a little while, like two days, until you remember that you don't give a flying fuck about anything and you re-establish your friendship. They gain new respect for you because they rejected you and you still come up smiling and gaming. On the other hand, you game her properly and bed her. Give solid game and you can't lose.
/r/seduction19/09/11 02:05 AM
1

Way too much effort. Just chat to her at work and invite her out for a drink afterwards. Stipulate ONE drink as a false time constraint because you are meeting friends afterwards (whether or not you are). She is a desk jockey in HR, not a film star.
/r/seduction19/09/11 02:00 AM
1

Keep it simple, stupid. Just move. Two hours before you're due to go out, take a brisk walk for half an hour to clear your mind. Then get home, get on the phone to friends or whatever and keep moving, talking and doing.
/r/seduction18/09/11 02:36 PM
2

No. When they want you to kiss them, it's very obvious. There is a danger of getting bored with generating attraction and IOIs that you just steam ahead, go in for the kiss and blow out the set when you haven't got them signalling you quite obviously. They know when they are flirting and want something to happen and they know how to signal it to you without appearing easy. Of course, what is at stake if you do just 'assume attraction' and go in for a makeout without getting proper attraction IOI…
/r/seduction18/09/11 09:39 AM
1

...so she is mentioning the "other guy" to make you jealous. I know game pretty well and I do well out of it too. But sometimes I just miss something or forger it. I love this subreddit. Thanks man.
/r/seduction12/09/11 01:36 PM
1

If she is good looking and popular, don't even bother trying to fuck her. Use her as a pivot in nightclub game to social proof you. Stop waiting for permission. They never give you permission to do anything. ee ooh my daddio, The farmer TAKES a wife. P.S. If you ever get another girl in your bed in your life.....she wants to fuck. Oh yeh, and don't believe you have missed your chance, because you haven't. You can still turn it all around, but you have to fuck other chicks first.
/r/seduction12/09/11 01:29 PM
1

Your bro's role is to DHV you. That's the role. If he isn't, he's not a wing.
/r/seduction12/09/11 01:36 AM
2

Yeh, I agree. Furthermore, I think that the default state of mind should be relaxation. When you're relaxed to begin with, it's easier to then get excited about stuff instead of starting stressed or amped up from work or whatever and then trying to raise your energy.
/r/seduction04/09/11 05:00 AM
2

Better than dipping your pen in the company ink, is to use her as a pivot. If she is hot, she will have hot friends too. Just go out with them for drinks on a Friday. You are already social proofed that way.
/r/seduction31/08/11 02:18 PM
1

Lol I like when chicks use this on me. I tell them that I love being my height because I always get to surprise tall chicks when I fuck their brains out into next week. I think a shoot-down like op had requires a more "in-your-face" retort.
/r/seduction22/08/11 08:41 AM
1

Make your own routines. You have the life experience to do it.
/r/seduction19/08/11 12:45 AM
1

Salutations, brother!
/r/seduction18/08/11 02:56 PM
15

30? Dude, she wants babies right about now, not sex and shallow Alpha relations. Men with alpha traits make shit dads. /sweeping-generalisation
/r/seduction15/08/11 11:32 PM
5

What difference does it make anyway? You banged her. Case closed. Next. Unless you want a relationship with her (/r/relationshipadvice), in which case meeting HER friends on a second date is jumping through her hoops and you're so deep into gaming that you didn't see the obvious territorial mistake. I thought I did a good job socializing with her friends. You shouldn't have met them in the first place. That was the shit test. Bait,Hook,Reel,Reel...reeeeell. She just wanted to show you off to the…
/r/seduction15/08/11 11:18 PM
0

I just work across the road. In that sex shop. I think I've seen you in there before, stocking up for Christmas.
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:31 AM
0

What's his name?
/r/seduction12/08/11 01:29 PM
1

Have you read Mystery Method? Because the fundamentals are all in there. When someone says you failed to attract, you have a reference right there to check out.
/r/seduction10/08/11 11:31 PM
2

Cycle to work every day. Really fast. Beat your time from yesterday. Turn up, do the best job you can. For YOU. Not your boss. Let them give you shit for fucking up. No big deal. Like you're working out at the gym, it's boring shit but the game is in pushing yourself to do more with less. Breathe. Get oxygen to your brain and do more work than anyone else. Get to know the work of your superiors and help them out when you can. If you finish your assignment for the day, start cleaning your surroun…
/r/seduction10/08/11 02:09 AM
1

Yaay! And FREE BOOZE!
/r/seduction09/08/11 01:20 PM
1

No worries bud. I could have been clearer first time round I suppose.
/r/seduction09/08/11 05:29 AM
1

"Stops fighting you"? I really don't think you should be fighting anyone into bed. Explain the part where she says no and you "try some LMR breaker". Because I know what I wrote. I said "pull back" "stack forward" "escalate".... "IF she still GIVES proximity" and you then f-close her, it's not rape. However if you have trouble understanding the meanings of pull back, stack forward and escalate, you really haven't done your due diligence in learning game. So to return to your original comment. It…
/r/seduction09/08/11 01:00 AM
1

Good. You've been a bit vague in your response here. How does either scenario you outlined prove I am wrong and am giving advice for which I could go to jail?
/r/seduction09/08/11 12:09 AM
1

Let me be clearer. The law works by notice and consent. If your notice is not rebutted, it is deemed that consent is implied. If she is saying no but grabbing your ass and grinding you into her, getting worked up, this is consent. If you walk into a bank with a sawn-off shotgun and, pointing it at the cashier, ask them politely if they will, through their own free will, hand you all the cash in the vault out of a genuine act of charity, It is doubtful that you will be able to say in court they w…
/r/seduction08/08/11 03:41 PM
1

Re: point A, explain how, because I disagree, and I know law. Re: point B, no arguments there, I barely read the post and typed out of my ass at two in the morning as I drifted off to sleep.
/r/seduction08/08/11 03:32 PM
-8

A kiss is not a contract? Everything is contract. Consent is implied if your action is not rebutted. So when you experience LMR with a positive "no", then you pull back, stack forward and escalate, and she is still giving you proximity, and it ends in an f-close, it's not rape.
/r/seduction08/08/11 12:09 AM
3

Don't dip your pen in the company ink.
/r/seduction03/08/11 05:47 AM
11

"Are you coming in, or what, you gormless bastard?" "Ooh, nose-candy! Thank God!" "Oi! Naughty boy, let's at least get a line in first.
/r/seduction06/07/11 11:19 PM
2

That's Viscount Picky to you. If you can go five minutes without losing your property and being ditzy I may be able to use you on X night. But I'm not making any promises.
/r/seduction03/07/11 07:38 AM
2

You have one-itis for her and she senses it. It shouldn't have been a big deal if she refused you the first time. You probably visibly reacted like an AFC when she LMRed you and you took it personally and receded into your mind to protect yourself. The first step is to notice one-itis. The second is to laugh about it. The third is to develop an attitude that you don't give a fuck about it. My thoughts on LMR
/r/seduction07/06/11 12:14 PM
5

Interesting. Are you seeing you from the outside or is it from the inside? Can you describe more about the qualities of your successful visualising? Like size of the image; is it to the left or right, up or down or centre? Is there sound? Where does it come from and go to? etc. How about the feelings etc.?
/r/seduction06/06/11 04:20 AM
2

You calibrate. If she is not saying much, you are intimidating her. Move a step back, relax a little more, slow down your speech and put an honest smile on your face. Subtly move your body so you are standing almost by her side, looking at the same view as she is, as opposed to in front of her. Take a sincere interest in what she is saying without negging or teasing because she is obviously not ready for it yet until her mood changes. You need to pace and lead her into a new and better mood by m…
/r/seduction30/05/11 03:52 AM
1

Working 70 hours a week is just incompatible with dating, unless you are dipping your pen in the company ink. Here's the thing. You never get used to working that much. You just settle for your lot, as long as you get the steady pay cheque. You never work out a way to have a balanced life working that much and anyone who says they do is lying. You miss out on so much life working like that. Wage slavery is just not what man was designed for. We are designed to work about 16 hours a week. So apar…
/r/seduction29/05/11 03:48 PM
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I'm guessing because you didn't give these girls a number based on looks and social proof, these girls were average. In such a case, pickup techniques are not required and common niceties will suffice.
/r/seduction29/05/11 02:56 PM
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I donno wat where u sayin?
/r/seduction29/05/11 07:10 AM
14

Dude, you need to NOT do this if you ever want to get romantically involved with her. The story is never complicated, the girl is never complicated and the situation is never complicated. She is either into you or not. You either know she is into you or you don't. You know if she is into you by her indications of interest. These indications of interest can be encouraged by your behaviours and that is what pickup is all about. But if you have not formed attraction in her, you will crash and burn …
/r/seduction29/05/11 04:14 AM
2

Then it's up to nerds to be a bit more flexible in their behaviours. That's if they want to be socially successful.
/r/seduction27/05/11 05:51 PM
2

Women filter for confidence because the behaviour is an indicator of competence.
/r/seduction27/05/11 08:51 AM
0

Your answer is pretty simple but takes 9 paragraphs to relay?
/r/seduction27/05/11 08:48 AM
2

That's Numchuck Skillz.
/r/seduction27/05/11 08:26 AM
1

If you have a problem wearing deodorant because you don't believe in the nasty chemical shit or the industrial process or whatever, you can get solid deodorant blocks from Lush cosmetics. It works better than spray deodorant, which is designed to be inefficient so that you keep buying the shit. My pits used to smell really bad after 8 hours with the spray stuff (lynx, insignia, etc.) but since I started wearing the solid stuff from lush, I can go actually a full 24 hours and I still smell pretty…
/r/seduction26/05/11 06:39 AM
2

The only thing you can do in the period of two weeks that will make her sufficiently jealous enough to be attracted to you is for you to have sex with someone else as soon as possible. A hooker if you must. I'm not sure whether to take you seriously in the first place but I know perfectly well that the friendzone is not a permanent place to someone who has their shit together. When she sees you are having fun with some other chicks, she will find you a hell of a lot hotter. Go out and hook up wi…
/r/seduction24/05/11 02:37 PM
1

Nothing is original. What we can discern though, is that self help and pick-up are separate concepts. It's your right not to be up-sold if you don't think a product or service is what you want. But other people do find the upsell relevant to their lives and experience.
/r/seduction24/05/11 03:13 AM
3

I didn't know Dire Straits had a jazz pianist! From experience, with me being bass player to many a band, I find it is more of an aphrodisiac if you are part of a band rather than solo because it's proof you are a somewhat socialised being since you are able to communicate successfully with your musician peers. If you are high level on your piano skillz, then get a three piece going and earn some money at the weekends. Organise it by yourself, it's not hard. A fifteen song jazz setlist can take …
/r/seduction24/05/11 02:53 AM
1

"Inner Game" is re-packaged self-help literature, which, indeed, I don't deny is good for your success in life. However, let's not call it pickup. Pickup, is structured field tested technique. Which is more my kind of thing. The application of a skill and the successful repetition thereof is what gives you confidence. You can imagine having a fit and healthy body for sixteen hours a week and you can organise your daily rituals around it but if you don't pick up weights and do specific things wit…
/r/seduction22/05/11 04:20 PM
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I never cared much for the inner game thing. Going into the field with the belief that you're awesome isn't really helpful when you just aren't awesome. It's the difference between a confident guy with competence and a confident guy without. The incompetent will blow out sets much more because he hasn't surfed the learning curve of theory and practice. I think the inner game stuff is largely a marketing bandwagon, taking platitudes of the self-help sector into what was, at the time in the mid 20…
/r/seduction22/05/11 01:52 PM
1

I find there is so many bullshit explanations about why guys are into pickup as if it's a bad thing to do things step by step that you just didn't learn the steps to when you were a teenager. I got into pickup because my heart got broken really badly when my gf ditched my ass after three years of LTR. It had nothing to do with bragging to anyone, nothing to do with competition, I just wanted answers as to why I got discarded and if there was a way to get her back. Well in the end, I did get her …
/r/seduction20/05/11 06:32 PM
1

Sitting at the other side of the bus from you one seat behind, watching you intently and masturbating furiously. Hand bobbing up and down with an aggressive look on her face.
/r/seduction20/05/11 06:24 PM
1

Commenting as bookmark in case OP learns 2 paragraph.
/r/seduction20/05/11 06:22 PM
1

Watch one of his videos on NHR and elicit the sub-modalities of your limiting beliefs. Spin em backwards. I find it's a lot more helpful to do it with someone else. I never drank beer all my adult life. Couldn't stand it. I would convulse as if to vomit if I tasted it. I knew all the Bandler stuff but didn't put two and two together until one day last year I met a guy in a bar and we got talking about compliance (shit tests etc.) He ran me through a pretty simple generalisation routine, getting …
/r/seduction20/05/11 06:18 PM
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It's quite simple. It is indeed VERY simple. You are in bed with her. She does not want to be "respected". She wants to be coerced, cajoled, forced, manipulated and tricked into opening her legs for you. This is all depending on the fact that you have, and that you know you have, created sufficient attraction and have created sufficient comfort and that she is frigid because of practical logistics like a work schedule. Slide your hand up her top and hold her tits. When she swipes it away, you ch…
/r/seduction20/05/11 04:26 PM
0

Sneak into her dorm at 2am and duct tape her mouth and wrists down then lick her clitoris until she cums ten times and before leaving, kiss her on her forehead, sing the theme song to Cheers and leave a knife on the windowsill for her to get free. She'll remember you.
/r/seduction20/05/11 04:01 PM
1

Well, conversations with women are one thing. PUA stuff is pretty much about having sex with women you rate highly and you have just met and doing it that evening or the next. It's a game. It's about nailing chicks you have no business nailing. Chicks way out of your league. Riding film stars while you're working in a warehouse. It's about getting using your nature given testosterone as it was intended to be used. You're making the mistake of rationalising it. It's just a game that feels good.
/r/seduction20/05/11 03:48 PM
5

I hope you're not using your colour as an excuse for poor game. If you're ripped like The Rock, you have solid game and you can fuck like a shire horse, I think most women forget what colour is. My height is 5' 7" and I used to think women filtered me out. And they did because I thought so. I have long since reframed my beliefs on that. Now it's something I have going FOR me because I have the advantage of surprising my target when I pull off pro game. HOT chicks a foot taller than me want to ju…
/r/seduction20/05/11 03:11 PM
1

forever alone.
/r/seduction20/05/11 02:43 PM
1

I wonder, was she between 5 and 8? (she clearly wasn't 9 or 10) If she was a 5,6,7, I wouldn't have negged more than once. But I would have challenged her. Get her to jump straight through my hoops. "Can you dance like this?" and pull a twattish leg twist like in Seinfeld or something. If she took the bait and danced like Elaine Benes, kino her, then push her off. If she didn't take the bait, turn round and dance next to some other chick. Not abruptly, just drift off with a smile. Engage some ot…
/r/seduction20/05/11 02:19 PM
1

No offence everyone, but I thought Tao of Steve was shit. Stay away from romantic comedies from the liberal lefty hollywood female perspective, which is most of them. They are totally unhelpful for guys. OP needs some David DeAngelo, Mystery, David Wygant, etc. There is no need to look too far. If you actually do the things these guys talk about, guess what? ....you get consistent results.
/r/seduction20/05/11 01:06 PM
1

"Before I tell you, don't take it personal, but you can't afford me." This is kind of the thing I say, even though I don't need to because I'm a musician. But I like being borderline antagonistic with a smile on my face. It's a frame setter. She goes to qualify pretty quickly usually in a jokey manner.
/r/seduction20/05/11 12:52 PM
0

Nice tip with the waitress. Thanks for that. What's the thinking behind it? Pavlovian rewards? My take on monogamy is that if they married, they are a pivot. If they are engaged, this is a grey area but mainly they will also be pivots. However, no matter who it is, if they are all over me like a cheap suit, all bets are off!
/r/seduction20/05/11 03:31 AM
2

I don't do it to sound smart and knowledgeable or even to discuss doing it with other guys. I do it for sex, conquest and a good fun game.
/r/seduction19/05/11 06:41 AM
1

The Mystery Method was formed with a few specifics in mind. It's for :- 1. Picking up hot girls with evidential popularity as observed by things like the amount of guys approaching her, her attractive character, her looks. She is assigned a number based on these factors. Basically if she is truly a 10, she is Angelina Jolie. 2. Picking up in a nightclub or other setting where you have ten seconds to make the right impression. 3. Picking up different girls, consistently, for the purpose of sexual…
/r/seduction19/05/11 06:10 AM
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Lol, or what?
/r/seduction06/03/11 12:04 PM
0

Maybe it's just the estrogen talking, but I fail to see how an F-close is the holy grail of any and all human interaction. The holy grail? I find that a bit too patronising to be honest. Indeed this subreddit is not ABOUT the holy grail of all human interaction but about seducing women into bed. You are downplaying something that is very important to so many men; the act of physical intimacy with a woman. It is fine and dandy for you when you are validated by an elaborate display of romantic beh…
/r/seduction06/03/11 02:11 AM
2

Cool man. Oh yeh IMO taureans are the biggest whores, no wonder you're on here. Yeh I have no advice for gaming baristas. What I would probably personally do is if I really had to have her is just meet her outside on her smoke break and talk away to her all the while imagining a cinema sized movie of she and I locked together during sex and just tell her I'm in a band and she should come see me play sometime but in the meantime she should come for a drink after work across the road or whatnot. I…
/r/seduction05/03/11 04:59 PM
0

Haha, the downvotes. OH THE DOWNVOTES! Nobody can take criticism these days. Come on lol! OP is bitter like a grapefruit and dog-fur smoothie. Who cares that he is unsubbing from seddit? Is this a contribution? There doesn't appear to be either a field report nor an analysis of a field report here. Just a veiled whingeing session. I mean I hope he isn't found in swinging in his basement but it is a bit attention whorish. I wouldn't be surprised to seem him posting again some long winded gumflap …
/r/seduction05/03/11 04:16 PM
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Hmmmm. Nice contribution. But...It raises more questions given that you are a female. Whom is this FR intended to help? It looks good enough to help girls pick up for sure and certainly provides insight into the female thought process. A little analysis: The guy didn't F-close with you. When all is said and done, no f-closing. A great dancer, kisser, confident, etc. but no close. What made him a HD7 as opposed to a HD9? Where are YOU on the number scale and how do you know this? I spot a guy I h…
/r/seduction05/03/11 03:55 PM
2

It reads like you had a lot of fun either way buddy. Good work.. I get the impression that Scorpio girl has too much to say for her own good and that her mouth could be put to better use by you. I change the subject by telling her the area she moved to used to be a ghetto. Thats my kinda neg lol. In fact I'm gonna use that whether I know where they live or not. She once told me about how she plans on having 3 husbands, and what each one will provide her. I have been thinking of telling her, "Now…
/r/seduction05/03/11 11:47 AM
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A bit morose in places there, bud. It's as if you took the subreddit a bit too seriously. Seriousness is beta IMO. But god speed! You came and worked some things out. Congrats. New found knowledge and experience is yours now to pass on to a clueless beta, badly in need.
/r/seduction05/03/11 05:34 AM
2

I aint your buddy, chum.
/r/seduction03/03/11 10:37 AM
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Smoker here. There is a time and a place for lighting up. Dates are not the time nor place. Is it so much a part of who you are to feel the need to smoke blunts on your second date? We are talking here about a mating ritual and the finer points of it. How is your perception supposed to pick up on IOIs and shit tests when you are stoned? Smoke up after you have had sex with her by all means but it's weak game to build a date on weed.
/r/seduction03/03/11 09:51 AM
3

It makes them see you as non-sexual. A eunuch. Friendzone is a hard place to escape from. You're going to have to do some serious seddit trawling.
/r/seduction01/03/11 05:58 AM
1

You don't. You say I'm going to X on Wednesday to steal hubcaps, wanna join? Furthermore, you should have used the email/phone call to quickly arrange a meet rather than exhaust your convo before you date her.
/r/seduction01/03/11 05:54 AM
0

Richard Bandler more than deserves a little financial karma sent his way. Just buy one of his books or CDs. You can't lose.
/r/seduction01/03/11 12:19 AM
3

Lol okay. If you are kissing a girl and she offers LMR you stop. Pull back. Talk about something fun and funny not connected to what you were just doing, as if it never even happened. You know it happened, she knows it happened but since you are acting like nothing happened because it's no big deal to you, her attitude towards you changes, especially when you leave it five minutes and begin to tease her and kino escalate her again. And of course, be prepared to do this again and again pushing fu…
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:43 AM
3

You only get LMR in response to your advance. Like feeling her ass or kissing her. Otherwise you are doing nothing for her to resist. You go in for the kiss and actually kiss her, it may help to grab her hair, lol, to assist in precise trajectory and location. At this point you have thrown down a gauntlet and it is up to the target to either go with it or TEST your cojones with LMR. If they test you with LMR, they just want to see if you are alpha enough to not give a fuck and the tactic I routi…
/r/seduction28/02/11 04:39 AM
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She wanted you to caveman her. saying "Goodbye present?" Here you are asking permission, which is beta. She already let you walk her home which was a major IOI, she was up for something. Just not to reward beta behaviour with affection. She started to lean in once and give in, then stopped herself, saying "This is a mistake. I can't believe I'm doing this." This is LMR. "I CAN NOT believe that I AM DOING THIS." She was doing it. Doing. She tacitly agreed to do something with you but you hesitate…
/r/seduction28/02/11 02:38 AM
2

Do you want to kiss me?" She laughed and then said, "Yes." I was about to kiss her when 2 of my buddies sat down. Fucking worst timing ever! I wasn't too pissed though, she already said yes so I knew I could have it whenever I wanted. Wrong move, you should have kissed her then right in front of your buddies, no matter how uncomfortable it was for them. You pussied out and that's why you didn't f-close her at your buddies house. You were scared of being a dirty bastard or whatever. I planned on …
/r/seduction24/02/11 02:59 AM
1

Good game buddy! I personally find day game much easier than, say, nightclub game. You get longer to run it and it's easier to isolate.
/r/seduction13/02/11 12:11 PM
1

I chase the sun. In people. And I like shagging hot girls. What BROUGHT me to the pua material was a broken heart and the realisation that I was not on my own path but was willing to be overly flexible and compromised around the path that they were on. PUA is a force for good. It is a process of realisation and it's helluva fun.
/r/seduction11/02/11 11:40 PM
1

Sorry my mistake. I'll leave my post there though because I don't really think there is much use in text game because it usually ends up being too much of an investment. Fine enough if you want a LTR but not for gaming girls.
/r/seduction11/02/11 11:22 PM
0

Haha. Why the ---- are you making excuses for her? Who cares about her study, you want to meet up, game her and nail her that very night. Her study is her business. Her vagina is your business.
/r/seduction11/02/11 11:13 PM
1

Her: Hey I may not be able to get together next weekend. Do you >have plans tonight? Wanna grab some dinner or smtg? Like 7? Here you are not providing value to her. You are providing a liability. You are asking her to do the thinking for you because you haven't specified where you would like to meet her. I wont critique the rest of the texts because they are just filler material. Texting is solely for arranging a meet up, not flirting. The first text you send mentioning meeting up should have t…
/r/seduction11/02/11 11:08 PM
1

Sure there's a way to recover the situation. Next the girl. That is; Look at her, look around her, look around the room for other girls and shout "NEXT!" until she goes away and another one auditions for you. Focus on generating attraction and spotting IOIs. With lots of girls. This is often the most difficult part of the learning process because we all have done comfort and seduction more consciously than attraction because we have had the luxury of time with girlfriends whom we didn't necessar…
/r/seduction09/02/11 06:57 PM
1

I know what nix means but 'next' and 'nexting' is apparently used as a verb in the PUA community. Either way, thanks for the gesture of correction.
/r/seduction09/02/11 05:37 PM
6

Haha. That's like saying "Hey I usually just let people walk all over me, you wanna try too? It wont cost ya nuthin." Your game is lame. Comfort without attraction. Next this one and go back to the drawing board.
/r/seduction09/02/11 11:16 AM
1

Well thanks. My opinions are not always popular to put it lightly but it's good to see some of them stick where it matters.
/r/seduction06/02/11 02:05 PM
3

Phrasal Verb: Slag off Meaning: Criticise heavily Example: The concert was terrible and all the papers SLAGGED the band OFF. It's a British thing I suppose. You can call someone a slag, which means whore, and in doing so you would be slagging them off. How do you initiate tickling? You prod the reactive muscle around the side of her ribcage to elicit a spasmodic perturbation. You insult her. You highlight an incompetence for example. You say "Hey Karen, check it out, you walk like this..." and w…
/r/seduction06/02/11 02:01 PM
25

Oh FFS. Just faux insult her and play fight with her. That's kino. Kino means kinesthetic which is a fancy word for touch. Just touch her and don't give a fuck. In fact, that you weren't touching her is DOWNRIGHT RUDE given the circumstances. She put herself out there by pretending she didn't have the cash for a taxi and could she stay in your bed. This is plausible deniability. So just tickle her or something and slag her off then pull back. Then do it again but more full on, play fight or what…
/r/seduction06/02/11 02:00 AM
6

On the face of it, perhaps she didn't want you getting any other idea than that it was going to be a one-off f-close.
/r/seduction03/02/11 01:28 AM
0

Props for experimenting. I think if it felt wrong to game the girl, it's a good indication that it was wrong at that time. I can resonate with Mysterys fair game policy in a nightclub if the target has an amog and they are just first or second dating but if it's a LTR and you are still targeting her, then I think that comes from a lack mentality as opposed to an abundance frame. There are plenty other HB's out there. Don't get me wrong, if it's on a platter for you, then dig in.
/r/seduction02/02/11 02:39 PM
2

What's wrong is your bad attitude. Nothing more.
/r/seduction18/01/11 12:22 AM
3

Lol. Hey you're 27 so I'm not gonna pull any punches here... You suck man. You failed a series of shit tests. You are so beta it's funny. But hey...we've all done it. Firstly, she's 23, she is going to want to screw around for a while and all you should be expecting at this stage is that you are one of the guys she is fucking. Secondly, you cannot 'court' via text message unless it's all about the booty call and you have an advert on craigslist. Texting is for arranging a meet up. I wouldn't eve…
/r/seduction17/01/11 08:12 PM
2

Telling someone what your goals are is like showing your working to the teacher as she stands over you. It immobilises you because you have subjected yourself to judgement.
/r/seduction16/01/11 08:18 PM
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You can use your imagination for the rest :P Fuckin lol.. Yeh I'm all out of imagination now thanks... You imaginated everything quite clearly.
/r/seduction06/01/11 11:52 PM
1

I wonder if he was trying to pick her up?...off the floor...
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:05 AM
1

Successful trole is successful.
/r/seduction04/01/11 05:41 PM
39

It's hard to tell who was the woman.
/r/seduction04/01/11 12:47 AM
-9

"Best, Neil"? So he wrote all that blarb but couldn't be arsed with fully wishing wellness on the readers? The FUCK does "best, neil" MEAN? Nothing! It is such a patronising affectation, implying he is so busy in life and talks to so many people he can dispense with pleasantries as if he is filling in bulk tax returns. Who knows, maybe it works for 'email game' haha, yeh right! He has obviously been reading too much NLP/hypnosis and is trying to insinuate, by abbreviating the common sign-off "be…
/r/seduction12/12/10 10:59 AM
5

I was waiting for a Bel Air ending for most of the story.
/r/seduction11/12/10 09:19 AM
6

A game-free field report. How unique.
/r/seduction08/12/10 09:45 AM
7

For me it has to be American Psycho. Chicks love that shit.
/r/seduction05/12/10 09:26 AM
-2

Full marks for boldness! I would have engaged her with convo and told her to meet me outside at x coffee shop before getting her a drink and false time constraint, number close. The instant date if you will. Then again in the past I have also just, almost rudely, said "hey I'm in a band, you should come see me sometime, what's your number?" -pregnant pause while she flusters and tries to decide what to do before she automatically reacts with giving her number-.
/r/seduction05/12/10 07:26 AM
1

This. Kind of. You bang as many other chicks as you want at the same time as her and eventually she will ask you if you are. The right answer is yes. Don't outright lie to her. She will be pissed off and try to manipulate you in every way she can. She may even cut off contact with you, ignore you, shout at you, etc. but if you hold your ground, she will come right back to you. If of course you are in it all for sex. Again it always comes back to what you want these girls for.
/r/seduction16/11/10 02:32 AM
5

This post is a load of bullshit. One minute women are 'weirded out' by being gamed but then the next minute they are ecstatic about being hit on. They have no important opinions on the subject given that they never know what they want or how to express it and live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance. And OP has reviewed a book written for people that want what he apparently doesn't want.
/r/seduction15/11/10 05:22 AM
3

I have a theory that there are actually 2 genetic types of human - one with true higher thought and one without but we are all told we are equal so no one can commit genocide. This is creepy, the elitist attitude of your sister. Someone with this type of attitude, for me, doesn't even make it on the number scale. Pseudo-intellectuals are such a turn off.
/r/seduction15/11/10 05:11 AM
3

Lol dude. This is not seduction that you're doing. This is relationship. For a start, stop calling her your girlfriend. Secondly, go and pick up some other girls and the current girl will get the message. But AGAIN it depends on what you want. It always comes back to that with most seddit questions. If you want a relationship you will probably need to do more than attraction comfort seduce. If you just want to bang this chick then go and bang someone else until she gives it up for you. If you ne…
/r/seduction12/11/10 03:12 PM
-4

You're giving us a Field Report on this guy but you don't want to be his Field Report? Women are really thick.
/r/seduction08/11/10 02:58 PM
2

It's a matter of what you are willing to put up with. /thread
/r/seduction08/11/10 02:51 PM
3

I love how people, ANYONE, criticises Mystery when he is doing Exactly what he wants to do.
/r/seduction28/10/10 05:51 PM
1

She obviously doesn't want 'love'. She wants a good hard dicking. She's 26 for god's sake! That's dick time in chick years. She'll be smoking her way around town. 20 miles of cock. Go and check out Mystery. You have one-itis and are being tooled.
/r/seduction27/10/10 10:53 AM
2

Naturals have a deep structure reality already built up in their brains and physiology so that when they say shit like "If she's playing mind games, fuck her..." it comes from vastly different prior experiences than some fat guy playing World of Warcraft in a bedsit for the last five years. They have better training for pickup than said fat WoW guy. You could say "stop taking shit, and you feel so boss." in a nightclub setting until you're blue in the face but until you put yourself through inte…
/r/seduction27/10/10 02:25 AM
1

She is under no obligation to find you attractive, no matter what and she is under no obligation whatsoever to want to sleep with you. However. There is no stronger attraction switch in my opinion to a woman than pre-selection. In my opinion, confidence is a secondary consideration to them. If you are pre-selected by other women, they fancy the challenge you represent. EVEN IF YOU ARE HUMPING UGGS!! So surround yourself with women! I have shagged fat friends of my target just to get to the inner…
/r/seduction27/10/10 01:40 AM
1

OP seemed like he was going to take that lame advice and cause himself some terrible heartache. Oneitis is a horrible trap to try to get out of.
/r/seduction24/10/10 11:36 AM
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Either that or she will run into a natural alpha that outgames you.
/r/seduction24/10/10 11:30 AM
1

Dude, I'm actually going to use this one. It'll soo work. They lap this stuff up.
/r/seduction24/10/10 11:09 AM
3

Rule 1 my friend. Women don't know shit about picking up women. Don't pay attention to laddymaddona, she means well but she doesn't know what she's talking about. Buddy, please don't do the group thing. It is her territory with her troops. Love is War. Remember that. Here's what to do. Cancel the group thing, make an excuse. Do not let her set the frame. She sets the frame/the context/the experience and she thinks she is taking her nephew out to the playpark. Organise some of your favourite plac…
/r/seduction23/10/10 10:19 PM
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Get out of seddit unless you want to attract and seduce hot chicks. You are out of your element. Your advice is fallacious and unwanted as it is. You don't belong here and you will only misguide some poor sensetive young guy into getting messed around by egotistical young women.
/r/seduction23/10/10 10:16 PM
2

Oneitis.
/r/seduction07/10/10 11:52 AM
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Yeh you don't get it OP. Gaming chicks is for picking up the hottest ones out there. Consistently. Not playing a numbers game on the average ones with fat asses and dungarees. Furthermore, OP, to say there is no scientific method to women is to say evolution doesn't exist. That is fair enough if you are a creationist but it doesn't make it less valid. You say we'll never figure women out. Wrong. We have. And we are exploiting them for what we want. We are shagging them in cellars, bushes, alleys…
/r/seduction07/10/10 11:23 AM
1

Girly, you are using the wrong method to pick up guys. You already have thousands of books on the market catered to your needs. These seddit tactics are pretty useful if you want to pick up hot women who are aware of their exceptional popularity. They are tactics for picking up in nightclubs and coffee shops and the street, not work. Banging someone from work is easily done. Relationships also. But you have what is known as oneitis. Respectively, this PUA kind of stuff is not for turning crushes…
/r/seduction06/10/10 03:18 AM
2

I guess it didn't work if you haven't gotten laid.
/r/seduction05/10/10 08:59 PM
1

Looks like OP is not in hunter mode at all or he would have banged someone else by now. In fact that's about the only way to 'save' the relationship. By banging someone else. Anyway, you mention only that SHE wants space. Never mind about what she wants, that is up to her to sort out. What about what you want? Seems like you're not assuming you have the strongest frame. Frame control. Let her do whatever and you go and find a girl(s), more suited than her to accommodate your needs.
/r/seduction02/10/10 10:43 AM
5

Now this is the best advice in here!
/r/seduction02/10/10 10:32 AM
2

You opened her. Was she a 6? a 10? what? PUA is not for picking up average girls. If she keeps talking, that means you weren't. That means you're not running game. Anyway from what you said, she didn't seem THAT desperate. Desperate is a little more weird. Like one time as a result of me compliance testing her, I had some girl I had just met and didn't fancy,but a hb7 all the same, do a weird out of step beyonce ass shaking dance and run her hands all over me, trying to jump up and kiss my face …
/r/seduction01/10/10 11:28 AM
1

Just break it all down. Start practicing openers first until you get a consistent success rate. Have canned material that you yourself find funny and interesting. and chalk up the successes. Take success from every encounter. Focus on success and you will get more of it. e.g. you approached? BIG success. you ran a funny disqualifier that hooked her attention? BIG success. You peacocked and she commented on it? BIG success. etc.
/r/seduction08/09/10 12:12 PM
1

So you run and hide? You cannot control all situations so that you don't have to come up against any friction. There is a difference between initiating violence and defending yourself and your loved ones from a physical attack. Your FR had some kind of question over what to do when an AMOG becomes aggressive with you. If neither you or the female knew the AMOG then the right thing to do is take her away from the heat. If you behaviourally demonstrate that you are not, in the imagined future, wil…
/r/seduction06/09/10 09:37 AM
1

Stupid way of thinking. Here's the thing, you would want someone to step in on behalf of your sister or mother when a scary man is hassling them. So do unto others...
/r/seduction06/09/10 09:25 AM
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Here's my opinion: Throw the pacifism trash out the window. Take up a martial art if you must. There are potentially dangerous pricks all over the place and someday you're going to have to step in between a mouth breathing aggressive drunken AMOG and a damsel in distress because it's the RIGHT thing to do. If you don't like fighting then get out of PUA because in the end it is a fight of wills. It's capture the flag. Your frame or hers. If you had moved her to isolation away from the snorting am…
/r/seduction06/09/10 01:16 AM
5

Pivot. This is all covered in various PUA material already.
/r/seduction04/09/10 12:52 PM
9

It learns to not be a social retard or it gets the hose again!
/r/seduction03/09/10 11:37 PM
2

You're honest? How honest? Did you tell these girls you were employing pick-up techniques on them that you learned from the internet or did you 'misrepresent' yourself? I'm not criticizing, it's just that you made a generalization on your hb9 but not yourself. PS how can she be an HB9 if she sits around at home on the weekend watching movies? The number scale is not about physical beauty alone.
/r/seduction03/09/10 10:33 PM
1

You never go to their territory until you f-close. Always come up with somewhere to go/ something to do yourself. Of course it's a shit test. Yes she is testing you. The first few dates could be viewed as a series of continual compliance tests until she feels safe that she is with someone who can lead.
/r/seduction02/09/10 11:44 PM
1

Upped for adherence to neg rules! A lot of people don't fully get that you neg an 8-10, maybe a 7 depending on the bitch shield and that anyone below a 6 is not legit gaming so negs need not apply.
/r/seduction01/09/10 01:52 AM
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My thought is this. FUCKIN AY! You got that bitch ex-girlfriend watching you score with a chick possibly hotter than her! THAT alone is worth all the PUA stuff by itself. Sounds like you're on a roll, go bag another HB while you're at it.
/r/seduction28/08/10 01:50 PM
2

George Kostanza from Seinfeld.
/r/seduction26/08/10 02:23 PM
1

Yeah the friend cockblocked you. Not intentionally though. All it took was to isolate her at the last moment and she was in his frame, not yours. Then again, it may well have been an intentional sabotage borne of fleeting jealousy. You have to be very strong willed to subjugate your subconscious impulse to cockblock someone else out of some frame of scarcity.
/r/seduction17/08/10 01:19 AM
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This is so gay. Totally machiavellian and a waste of time. It is utterly self deceiving and is orbiter material. This is the shit we used to do before PUA. How many 10s exactly has he picked up with this lame technique? He might as well pull his duct tape and rapist gloves out of the top drawer and climb into his unmarked white van.
/r/seduction16/08/10 12:25 PM
2

Good on you for choosing to be aware of yourself. I personally think the bitching is beta, full stop. If you want to complain about things, go home and complain to your plants or your cat, then shake yourself loose and go for a run/workout and punch away the pain with your manfists.
/r/seduction14/08/10 10:29 AM
1

The act of creating attraction is tangible and near absolute. For the same reason and to the same extent you can't control your attraction to, say, Jessica Alba's smoking hot body, women can not control their attraction to the behaviours of alpha-males. They can control what they DO about their attraction but they still feel the attraction. There are unconscious programs running in our and their brains that govern what we call emotions. Emotions are nothing but neurological processes, as are the…
/r/seduction13/08/10 08:01 PM
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These are indeed shit tests. She is probing for dominance. She doesn't want to to be mumsy! Do not let her set the frame, not on the first couple of dates anyway. If she has a better idea than you do, you're not being creative enough. Also you should probably nail her on the third date or she will wonder if you are gay or scared. HOWEVER! If she wants you to go to a bar with her, she probably wants to drink and get in the mood for sex. Cinema is for intimacy and kissing. Bad move on inviting you…
/r/seduction11/08/10 01:25 AM
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If you're short(er) then you should do this only with bootcut skinny jeans and boots. Anything baggy makes you look shorter. PS as for those who say it's a girls style, you are way too repressed. Do you think Mystery gives a flying one if his long hair, nail varnish and flouncy shirts can be perceived as girly when he is groin deep in some teen asian hardbody that responded to his peacocking like a moth to a flame?
/r/seduction09/08/10 03:02 PM
4

Salutations for your solid game! Shorty sounds like she needs a firm fuckin hand. Tell her you're going to fly a kite in the park on Wednesday or some shit. She should come and bring food with her. If she's not keen on that, NEXT!!! Just whatever you do, DON'T let her set the frame. You choose the venue. Then run game like a robot on her. Study her like a Nazi scientist. 900 friends? she wants to fuck. Either that or she is mental. 900 friends lol. And if she isn't jumping through your hoops on …
/r/seduction09/08/10 01:03 AM
2

Hey well done for working on this girl but I'm not going to blow sunshine up your butt. The PUA game is about bedding girls after 7 to 10 hours. The PUB? What a crap date venue! How is that showing her you are original? That just says you're an unimaginative beta. How do you get isolation time with her in a rowdy stinky pub with skag fiends fighting off a comedown in the corner and pikeys and chavs exchanging racing dogs and moody gold for the keys to a Nissan Skyline with the dodgy paintwork? U…
/r/seduction08/08/10 09:58 AM
1

I haven't slept with anyone from my school, I always went for chicks from other schools. But years later, I was able to be significantly charming to a few old schoolies by just following the Dale Carnegie classic "How to win...". They were all over me but by then I had developed something so impeding called 'standards'. Of course I am not saying the PUA methods wont help but do you really want to be bedding chicks/women that you didn't bed years ago for a reason?
/r/seduction01/08/10 12:00 PM
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I'm white, but if I was a bit yellower I still wouldn't care about generalised perceptions about my race. Do you think Bruce Lee gave two fucks about losing women to blacks or whites? I think not.
/r/seduction31/07/10 12:36 AM
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Okay I am expecting upvotes for this one. Singing lessons. Go to night class. Buy a cd and practice the exercises for an hour a day. When you exercise the larynx and the lungs, you release endorphins with your respiration and you make your voice simply sound more resonant and sexier. Who cares if you can't sing in tune but you've got a speaking voice like George Clooney. Singing is all about having a good tone anyway. The side effect of doing singing practice is that I find myself being a lot mo…
/r/seduction20/07/10 11:35 PM
1

You need a dictionary, boy! ...and a bit of hard graft with your kindergarten words.
/r/seduction15/07/10 11:05 AM
1

No actually everyone here has this guys best interests at heart and it is why they are not telling him what he thinks he wants to know. They are telling him how it really is so that he doesn't screw his chances with her.
/r/seduction15/07/10 10:59 AM
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Dude, did it ever occur to you she is simply giving you proximity all this time because she wants you to step up? Be prepared to 'lose' her and you will get her. If you kino escalated and then got nervous, it's okay. The fact is you escalated. She put out a shit test on you with the "im really glad you're not weird like the rest". A shit test. Whos world is it going to be, yours or hers? Forget inner game, outer game is there for you to fall back on lest you should feel nervous. Just game her by…
/r/seduction05/07/10 08:49 AM
1

Thanks in advance.
/r/seduction02/07/10 08:16 AM
10

Actually negs totally do work on men. They work just as unconsciously on men as they do on women. A chick negged me in a club one time, saying I smell good with the aftershave I was wearing mixing with my B.O. (though I had showered within the hour and don't have an odour problem) and I couldn't help but want to gain her acceptance and audience even though she was not a looker. It was totally automatic on my part and it was only months later when I got into the PUA stuff it dawned on me I'VE BEE…
/r/seduction29/06/10 10:59 AM
1

This approach is very beta. She is on holiday and wants a break from shit back home. Don't text her. She needs to know you have your own social life going on. Go and game some other girls until she comes back. Texting is for orbiters. People who are gone for weeks usually do a lot of thinking about their lives and chances are she will come back not even in the headspace for flirting with you. If it were me I wouldn't even text her when she comes back. When she comes back and settles down she wil…
/r/seduction28/06/10 12:57 PM
5

Here's my thing on touching. Succinct as I can put it. Don't bother touching anyone socially unless you yourself feeling amazing first. The value you are imparting is information (probably something akin to quantum entanglement...whatever...who cares!) for the benefit of the one you are touching. Your feelings generate a field around you and the one with the dominantly held feeling passes it on. I think of it as like a static electricity charge that completes a circuit upon contact. So first you…
/r/seduction17/06/10 09:37 AM
2

That MUST have been a hack!! Which gives me a great idea to prank my buddies with.
/r/seduction17/06/10 08:54 AM
2

The routines and gambits and for example, The Method are there to rewire your behaviours so that you eventually don't need the canned material and you go beyond technique. Like in music, when you are learning familiar chord progressions, like John Coltrane said "Learn the changes(progressions), then forget them." The same goes for PUA. If you want to reverse years of being the beta guy, watching your manly best friend get every girl you hit on like you are just a moon to his planetary attraction…
/r/seduction16/06/10 09:56 PM
2

You're missing the point. PUA is about consistency. Consistently being attractive to the most attractive women in the room. "Hi, my name is....." only leads to boring shit like "So what do you do?...etc." I didn't get into the PUA stuff to talk like a boring twat like I used to.
/r/seduction16/06/10 09:45 PM
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