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Welcome to the modern Sociology curriculum. My Soc 101 professor fed our class the old rule of thumb myth as a true fact, giving all her students a patently false understanding of legal history in order to perpetuate her gender segregationist ideology. People like this are why MRM and /r/MensRights exist. The lies of the Feminist Establishment have become too numerous and too transparent for society to continue to ignore. MRM has a long road ahead of it to bring and end to this, but at long last…
/r/MensRights16/11/11 03:35 AM
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You are completely rational; and television critics actually had a lot to say about this very subject at the start of the fall season. Relevant article from a couple of months back: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/21/mean-women-milquetoast-men/
/r/MensRights16/11/11 03:12 AM
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Is this site where the ridiculous leave-the-country MRA/MGTOW's come from? Wake up shit for brains, misandry is the order of the day in the majority of English speaking countries; and the country to experience it the most egregiously does not appear to be the US, but rather the UK, where sexual assault and domestic violence laws generally apply to women only and generally do not recognize female-on-male assault or rape as a crime.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:12 PM
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I am not talking about the "Freedom of Speech"/First Amendment per se, and don't believe I have once referred to it as such. This is more generally about open communication and the authority of an editor or publisher to control the content of what a writer writes. Mr. Elam is asking the editors of CafeMom to self-censor, which honestly probably will not do, and you have a point in that regard. But the fact that he is writing to them as a representative of MRM and flat out asking them to is not r…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 02:02 PM
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Free speech does not include the right to shout "FIRE" in a crowded movie theater. Fabian-Weber is inciting violence and mayhem. Your right on one count: Shouting "FIRE" in a movie theater is not protected by free speech. As I pointed out in another post in this discussion thread, it is in fact a crime. If that was the case, we need do no more than alert law enforcement and it would be handled as a criminal matter. That's just not the case here. The writer of this editorial doesn't actually inst…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 01:53 PM
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Nice work getting them to tip their hand. Faced with the right person and the right convictions, they always show their true colors. =)
/r/MensRights28/10/11 09:20 AM
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You are completely baffling me, Mr. Elam. I respect you for the work you do on behalf of AVfM, but I've got to say I thought you were a great deal more sincere about the cause than this. Demanding for the editors of CafeMoms to remove one of their writer's columns because you find it unacceptable, is demanding self-censorship. If someone were in immediate danger it would be criminal threatening and we could get law enforcement involved. Instead of that, and instead of directing your missive to t…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 07:51 AM
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You opened your initial response saying that you are squeamish about censorship. I wasn't aware that further proof of the intellectual dishonesty was necessary. Do we really want to go down the rabbit hole of trying to justify this, or this, or this? Because we have a long documented history of feminists using this approach to obfuscate the truth and control the conversation. If that's what AVfM stands for, that's fine, but call a spade a spade and own it. Advocacy is advocacy, and censorship is…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 07:14 AM
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Please enlighten me Roland, what does Thomas Jefferson have to do with MRM? He was a diplomat, not a social reformer. He was dead 100 years before Feminism existed. It's amusing to say the least that you look to arbitrary historical figures to hastily make points about this CafeMom controversy, who have no bearing on the conversation at hand, and then entreat me to wake up? A riot, positively. ;) I am very much awake. I see the linked /r/Feminisms threads and screencaps here everyday where Ignat…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 06:48 AM
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I'll quote myself since it appears you didn't read my entire post: The blog's editors should be asked to post a retraction, condemning the writer's incitement to violence and making it clear to the writer and the readers alike that DV is not something to be celebrated in any form. Censoring the bigots doesn't make them go away, it only presents them the opportunity to delay their own badly needed reality check. There is much work to be done, and enforcing MRM's own brand of self-censoring politi…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 06:31 AM
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What does it matter if women in the third world continue having children? If the majority or even half of the first world female population decides to quit having children or even sex then what would men be left to do? Men in the third world will continue to breed explosively and father immense numbers of children year in and year out, no matter what social movements rise or fall, without any help from first world émigrés. You are confusing your ability to get laid, personally, with the ability …
/r/MensRights28/10/11 06:23 AM
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It is more than plausible to believe that one day western women of childbearing age may say "fuck it" and stop giving us children. Sure a few of us can run to women from the third world, but how many? You are confusing your ability to get laid, personally, with the ability of the species as a whole to reproduce. Without any help from first world émigrés, the third world will always be an explosive center of population growth no matter what social movements rise or fall. I encourage you to read u…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 06:15 AM
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But I have to ask myself how I actually feel about that as an ideal compared to the fact that men are being butchered and the Sharon Osborne's and even Cafe Moms of the world are facilitating an environment of social acceptability for it. It is, without any over statement, reminiscent of 1936 Berlin. And people remained silent or complicit then as well. They have their microphone, and you have yours! The open letter was completely justified, and in that regard you did the good work you've always…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 06:01 AM
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We may not see it in our lifetime, but I think that it's very possible for women to someday globally unite and decide to no longer have children or have consentual sex. There are 3.4 billion women on the planet Earth, speaking somewhere between 3000-6000 languages. Who is going to organize this strike exactly? And how are they going to address the massive logistical and communication challenges to ensure every member of the group knows what's going on and doesn't cross the picket lines? It's a f…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 05:50 AM
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Imminent threats, yes, sure, in the extreme case where a specific and credible threat is made, expedient steps should be taken immediately to prevent the person from being victimized. That's when you get law enforcement involved. Expressing admiration for a violent butcher does not quite rise to that level of scrutiny. Take it to the logical extreme: If/When MRM swells into a mature, well-funded movement to rival feminism in its influence, and the AVfM's of the world patrol the communication cha…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 05:29 AM
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That part is fine I guess, but per the line I quoted, Elam is asking the publisher to censor the writer. The calling out is 100% the right approach, I just don't think that removing the content after the damage has been done, and pretending like this never happened, is an appropriate way to deal with these things.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 05:12 AM
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With that one choice women have the power to control and influence nations with complete authority. All they would have to do is not have children and there would be absolutely nothing we men could do about it. Only one problem: Biology. (Most) Human beings aren't mental exercises; they are human beings. Although Establishment Feminism shames them for it, some women are actually pleasant and not all that hung up on gender issues, don't go thermonuclear everytime a man sneezes without asking perm…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 05:05 AM
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Thus far, the question that Fabian-Weber posed to her readers, asking them if they felt that sexual mutilation is justified, has been removed, but the remainder of the post remains. This is unacceptable. Is... anybody else just a smidge uncomfortable with this approach? MRM is asking writers to self-censor now for the sake of political correctness? This is Establishment Feminism's #1 weapon for controlling the public dialogue around sexism. I honestly don't think we can beat them at their own ga…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 04:24 AM
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lol, that's not Futrelle's real account, but still funny http://www.reddit.com/user/manboobz
/r/MensRights28/10/11 04:11 AM
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She uses the restraining order to remove herself from the lease. Fast forward to the Restraining Order hearing. She doesn't show. RO dismissed. I get her back on the lease with the dismisal. You can be excused from a lease because you applied for a restraining order against your roommate? That is severely fucked up. And they say there is no female privilege. Wish I could offer you some kind of advice or consolation to equal the weight of your story, but I don't think I've got anything to offer. …
/r/MensRights28/10/11 03:38 AM
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Cleopatra, Catherine the Great, Isabella, Elizabeth. To be fair, and play devil's advocate for the wimminz a bit: The four rulers you named reigned a combined 112 years - each in a different kingdom - across a 1850 year timespan. Not exactly a representative sample of ancient and medieval society, just sayin'. :B
/r/MensRights28/10/11 03:18 AM
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What hardwarequestions said, and also: Dissolving the gender binary isn't necessarily what everyone here wants. To one degree or another, most of us are happy with our gender identities and are more interested in reforming certain social and legal norms in the here and now that are prejudicial to us as men and fathers. (Including prejudices that discourage gay men from pursuing fatherhood.) Conceptually revolutionizing our understanding of gender as a construct is somewhat less substantive for m…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 03:04 AM
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So instead of fights for men's rights, or whining about how women are treated differently, or whining about feminism, why not campaign for a society in which "What is a man?" need not matter. Where all of the preconceptions and notions about what gender is or isn't are thrown out the window. Agree 100%. But while we're talking about inclusiveness, I can't help but point out that there is a flip-side to this coin that you may or (probably) may not want to talk about, which explain why this subred…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 02:57 AM
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Thoughtful analysis and culling of quotes phlake, thanks for posting! I would recommend this post for inclusion in the /r/MR FAQ's. Obviously the language is a continuously shifting and evolving beast, and there's no telling what the accepted definitions of these terms will be 10 years down the road despite what some opinionated and intellectually invested academics may say today. I would like to think that as female criminality becomes more evident in the society and discussions of issues such …
/r/MensRights28/10/11 02:14 AM
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manboobz_ 1 link karma -263 comment karma
/r/MensRights28/10/11 01:56 AM
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I've got to ask: How does posting this story on Reddit - encouraging other users to read the news and know their world - constitute "attacking women"? That's ridiculous. Who's saying that all women are like that? That the crime is in anyway gender-linked? The fact that you have a problem with the story of one woman killer being recognized and spread speaks volumes about the double standard at play in our culture. Men do not have a monopoly on violence, and anywhere we can confront that stereotyp…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 01:38 AM
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I think that cases like the one described here are very important for us all to read and understand thoroughly, because of the way it highlights an area where MRA sex discrimination issues and minority racial discrimination issues intersect in legal arenas. Too often both groups are undeservingly tarred and feathered with prejudicial notions of being predisposed to crime and violence and presumed guilty without any actual evidence demonstrating our presence or participation in a crime. If we wor…
/r/MensRights27/10/11 03:04 PM
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Disappointing user comment of the day. (The quote, not you AnnArchist, if there's any doubt. :p)
/r/MensRights27/10/11 02:46 PM
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Susan Hendricks was arrested on Monday and was being held without bond for four counts of murder and four counts of possession of a weapon during a violent crime, which Sheriff David Stone is calling "a horrendous act of evil." On Friday, Oct. 14, police rushed to the scene after the 48-year-old mother told relatives that her son Matthew had shot himself and three other family members. Because it's always the man who is the ticking time bomb just waiting for the opportunity to off his entire fam…
/r/MensRights27/10/11 09:24 AM
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He just explained we don't want to remove legitimate conversation. Contrary to the way /r/Feminisms runs things, I don't think an admin's job is to maintain an echo chamber. If someone is really being disruptive and disrespectful - such as therealbarackobama was doing yesterday, falsely representing themselves as a member of the admin team speaking on behalf of the subreddit - then action should be and was taken. Ideologically hostile users don't rise to that level in my opinion. Welcome to demo…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 12:28 PM
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Oh, no! Not at all! It's just the second link there in the sidebar on the right hand side of your screen, pops up here in the submission feed at least twice and week, and routinely make guest appearances on the AVfM podcast among other editorial opportunities. No association with MRM at all! Totally different acronym! Mhm! What color is the sky in your world Futrelle? Obviously a very fixed shade of pink.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 11:02 AM
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Against, not Anti.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 09:17 AM
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I just don't see how those posts that DO get attention from other groups, the posts about homophobia, or attacking feminism, or in general, posts that clearly will have a negative response from new sub members or members of other groups do us any good. You overrate their prevalence and in doing so are contributing to those unduly negative responses. Honestly, a nameless Redditor saying something misogynistic or trans phobic, seriously or in jest, has no bearing whatsoever on the nature of the mo…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 09:08 AM
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From http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/?page_id=1196: Accomplishments Fathers and Families has the best record of legislative success, the largest membership base, the highest media profile, the most funding, and the most successful legislative representation of any family court reform organization. Fathers and Families has: Passed 5 Family Court Reform Bills in California in 2010, including child custody reform (AB 2416 and SB 1188), child support reform (SB 580 and SB 1355) and alimony reform …
/r/MensRights13/10/11 08:52 AM
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If trans hate happens on /r/TransphobiaProject, do you call out TransphobiaProjecters on their trans hate? How about a little respect for a diversity of viewpoints? This is a subreddit for men's issues. We are not a hivemind. If somebody says something offensive to you, by all means confront them about it, but don't slander the movement based on the insensitive remarks of a few Redditors. The majority of us are not participating in this discussion and are primarily concerned with the same issues…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 08:42 AM
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Do you really care that much if you're banned from an 817 reader subreddit? As a matter of fact, if they do ban you for that handful of harmless comments, it'll speak volumes about their openness to opposing points of view. You just disagreed with them, you didn't even stoop to uncivil name-calling as they did.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 05:12 AM
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I'm going to go back to riding some dick now. Take it easy MRA. facepalm.jpg /r/MensRights =/= MRM
/r/MensRights13/10/11 05:03 AM
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This is apples and oranges. Being an asshole is not a crime, and not an acceptable pretense to discriminate on the basis of sex under the law. If you want to argue for guys to not be assholes, you will find it more productive to do so in a dating subreddit. It's not a social justice matter, and doesn't fall within the realm of MRA issues. You're not going to find the conversation you're trying to have here.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:31 AM
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There's no substance in your post for me to agree or disagree with. Rapists should be punished. Non-rapists should not be. From a social justice point of view, this is the goal we as a society must seek to achieve. Your remarks about guys who are assholes are something personal in nature that MRA's don't really have a meaningful perspective on. Being an asshole/not being an asshole is not a gendered/social justice issue. I think you will find more personally meaningful conversation of your remar…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:23 AM
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Sounds like your romantic life has been a big steaming pile of shit dual-moon, but this isn't a dating subreddit and your issues don't have anything to do with men's rights. Might I recommend venting on /r/dating_advice instead?
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:08 AM
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Quite the opposite, I refuse to click any link to AMR or SRS and do my best to dissuade other MRA Redditors from doing so or reposting their insanity. AMR is a hideous wart on the butt of Reddit and SRS has barely picked up 300 watches in the past 3 mo's and still has 1/10th the watches of /r/MensRights. When we repost their lies, we're complicit in giving them a voice and helping their malicious spew misinform people who don't know any better.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 03:58 AM
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All the talk lately about protecting jobs for police officers in general is falling on deaf ears with me. The United States is the #1 jailer in the world by a margin of 30% over #2 Russia. Some carefully planned cuts in the law enforcement sector would be good for society as a whole and force the system to focus its resources a little more on real rapes, murders and robberies rather than the false claims, turnips, traffic cams and first offense possession charges that have become all too common.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:17 AM
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Castration: First option "Real" Feminists consider to solve any problem. Always.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 01:15 AM
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I swear. I am not trying to piss you off. But define strawmen. I have heard you use that phrase numerous times now, and the repetition of it suggests its importance, but I fail to understand it's significance. Your entire submission. MRM is not about bashing trans women. MRM is not about trans women's issues. MRM is not about scrapping with Feminists. MRM is not about epistemology. MRM isn't about gays, women, minorities, or the disabled. MRM is not about determining /r/MensRights' administrator…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 11:37 PM
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We need more comments like: Strong Disagree. /r/Feminisms exercises strict control over the content of submissions and comments. If you knew the first thing about MRM, you'd know that Feminism's obsession with controlling the message and slandering dissent under the auspices of bigotry are a significant contributing factor to male issues and social prejudices. I won't have that in my movement. Reddit is an open community for people to comment. Of course there are bigots and misogynists. Welcome …
/r/MensRights12/10/11 11:25 PM
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I just think that hatemongering isn't going to get us where we want to be, and will earn us nothing but scorn. A person, not unlike yourself, completely ignorant of the facts and fumbling blindly in the dark would say the same thing about feminism, global warming, Obama's citizenship, the shape of the planet Earth, etc. Stop wallowing in ignorance and educate yourself about what MRM really is instead of wasting time on this meaningless strawman garbage, and you will come to understand how MRM ha…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:30 PM
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I just don't understand how the group can hope to accomplish anything with all of its hatemongering. A person, not unlike yourself, completely ignorant of the facts and fumbling blindly in the dark would say the same thing about feminism, global warming, Obama's citizenship, the shape of the planet Earth, etc. Stop wallowing in ignorance and educate yourself about what MRM really is instead of wasting time on this meaningless strawman garbage, and you will come to understand how MRM has accompli…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:25 PM
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So downvote, if you must, but it's shit like this that makes starting a Men's Rights group at my school impossible. This is the standard they view us by. Perhaps if you educated yourself about what Mens' Rights actually is instead of mindlessly consuming and regurgitating the /r/AMR strawman narrative of homophobia and white supremacy, something might actually click? But of course you don't. That's not your purpose here at all, is it, Mr. DrunkHairyTroll?
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:21 PM
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So downvote, if you must, but it's shit like this that makes starting a Men's Rights group at my school impossible. This is the standard they view us by. Perhaps if you educated yourself about what Mens' Rights actually is instead of mindlessly consuming and regurgitating the /r/AMR strawman narrative of homophobia and white supremacy, something might actually click? But of course you don't. That's not your purpose here at all, is it, Mr. DrunkHairyTroll?
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:16 PM
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I think we need to discuss while therealbarackobama isn't wearing troll flair when he's willing to take his shenanigans as far as posing as an admin.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:07 PM
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This is what radical feminists really believe.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 09:55 PM
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facepalm.jpg That is my point. They're both genetic predispositions. It doesn't obligate us as a species to patronize either behavior. It's our choice.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 09:48 PM
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If we culturally reject one unnecessary genetic shackle, why can we not reject the other? I'm not sure where I was unclear? Genetic predisposition doesn't mean a behavior is necessarily good or must be performed. It just means that is the genetic predisposition.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 03:33 AM
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Probably yes, but then again the barefoot-and-pregnant stereotype is also probably genetic disposition given the simple fact that only one member of the pair has a womb. If we culturally reject one unnecessary genetic shackle, why can we not reject the other?
/r/MensRights08/10/11 06:39 PM
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Well for one thing, the researchers who published the 2009 study mentioned in this article were accused of being man-haters and received death threats over it. NPR's This American Life program did an excellent segment on this in the context of how patients contribute to waste in the healthcare system. (Act two.) While I can see how that might be some people's knee-jerk reaction to this story, the scientist in me can't truly see this as a MRM (exclusive) issue, but rather part of the larger probl…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 03:41 AM
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I think you are confusing my first point and my second. For documentation of Establishment Feminism's lobbying efforts against equal rights, please explore the following link: Feminists tell you that the solution to men's issues is more feminism. In reality, feminists fight against men's issues. Regarding patriarchy, it sounds like you already acknowledge my point. By definition, a social paradigm that systematically discriminates against men in sexual assault cases and family court cannot be ap…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 03:09 AM
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I didn't have sex until I was married. If you aren't strong or resilient enough to be the kind of man I am then deal with the consequences. Well, golly gee willikers Mr. Purity Ring Sex Machine, here's a totally crazy thought for you: Maybe your experiences aren't the absolute definition of manhood? Imagine that. Other people might just not be as hung up on sexual stigmas as you are. And you have the nerve to accuse us of insecurity? Haha. The burden of proof lies with the accused in this countr…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 02:23 AM
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Simply stop having sex with women, or at least women you barely know and/or trust. Having sex with women you don't know really well... isn't there a word for that... I think it starts with a D... Dating? Oh that's right, that whole thing with a relationship and a family and getting to know someone outside of your immediate gene pool. That thing. Right on, who needs that? Everyone should just vent their sexual instincts on the people who were present and accounted for from the time of their birth…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 01:49 AM
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Because a creepy male is communicating openly about his personal sexual desires and sexual agency, without female supervision and permission, and that's unacceptable to the matriarchy?
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:06 AM
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This a thousand times. MRM wouldn't need to be anti-Feminism if the Feminist establishment IE NOW, NOMAS weren't so virulently anti-father and anti-male. MRM is the opposite reaction to third-wave Feminism's legal and political over-reaction to traditional gender roles. Stop backing us into corners and we'll stop coming out swinging. As for patriarchy being responsible for men's problems? Explain Duke Lacrosse to me in the language of patriarchy and we'll talk. Whether it exists or not, the theo…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:00 AM
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Relevant or irrelevant to MRM & the presumption of male guilt? I'll let you all be the judge. Thought I would provide the link for discussion with specific reference to the following: But where "Minority Report" author Philip K. Dick enlisted psychics to predict crimes, DHS is betting on algorithms: it's building a "prototype screening facility" that it hopes will use factors such as ethnicity, gender, breathing, and heart rate to "detect cues indicative of mal-intent."
/r/MensRights07/10/11 10:22 PM
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Opposing chemical castration is pro-feminism? So I guess "real men" are FOR chemical castration? What color is the sky in your world, duglock?
/r/MensRights28/09/11 07:19 PM
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Probably a Yahoo Answers troll, but much truth is said in jest.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 04:09 PM
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Admire you strength, even though you're in a very bad situation. Keep your spirits up, brother. If she knows you are the father, there's no guarantee that your identity will ever be truly unknown to the child. If you fill out the paperwork, will any other family members have access to that information IE freedom of information act? If it is completely confidential, I would go ahead and fill it out. Painful though it maybe, you have fathered a child even if you aren't capable of being a Dad.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 04:02 PM
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reality based community TIL David Futrelle believes reality is a "community" he is involved in and other people are not.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 03:56 PM
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Retroactive: The Michigan Supreme Court will review if it's Constitutional to continue to convict and jail parents for criminal failure to pay child support without permitting them to explain that they had no actual ability to pay. Here is the Defendant's brief.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 08:58 PM
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And he's a good 1/4 - 1/3 of the comments by the looks of things. I struggle to feel hurt by Gawker's libel, but I don't really because if you count the number of comments relative to the number of commenters, it's obviously a small group of hecklers circlejerking classic /r/AMR style. I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what it was.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 07:23 PM
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And racist, don't forget racist.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 07:19 PM
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The writer's sources are Manboobz and Jezebel, of course the piece is riddled with ignorance and bigotry. Max Read is probably a friend of Futrelle's. Gawker's not exactly the leading edge of social justice.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 05:39 PM
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Wow. Mind blown. Sometimes, when you're not looking, gender feminism lets one slip and the first world lurches cautiously forwards toward equality. Definitely sharing this.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 04:19 PM
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Of course, there are plenty of situations where this will be bullshit and pointless, but that is kind of how the criminal justice system works across the board. This is why debtor's prisons for failure to pay in every other type of transaction was abolished 178 years ago. Also conceived with criminal deterrence in mind, but ultimately unconscionable because of the way they ensnare people and never let them go. Once MRM gets more of a foothold I expect this to eventually apply to jailing in child…
/r/MensRights26/09/11 04:07 PM
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First, he's not going to go to jail for 24 years for failing to pay child support. He's charged with 7 counts, and apparently the maximum sentence for that offense is 3.5 years. The only way he could serve 24.5 years is if he was convicted on all 7 counts and sentenced to the maximum prison term served consecutively. Prison terms for multiple counts are usually served concurrently. That brings his maximum sentence down to 3.5 years. Your point is valid, but at the same time 7 counts served conse…
/r/MensRights26/09/11 04:02 PM
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Courtesy of rantgrrl: Men Have No Right to Be Angry
/r/MensRights26/09/11 12:13 AM
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I am talking about real, full-blown rape—grabbing somebody off the street, holding a gun to their head, and having one's way with them. This is a malicious Hollywood stereotype drilled into our heads by movies and television that almost never happens, and is front page news when it does. As many as 80% of all assaults involve acquaintances. Seventy-five percent of all assaults are planned in advance.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 07:03 PM
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Why do only feminists speak for all feminists? False premise. I won't say everytime, but generally when someone calls out feminist bigotry here, as with the Hugo Schwyzer article this morning, it's an activist or a leader of an organization, who write gender studies textbooks or lobby for their cause in Washington. There's so much hatred being spewed from the top of the power structure that it's not worth the time or effort to confront individual Redditors the way /r/AMR has been harassing AnnAr…
/r/MensRights25/09/11 06:20 PM
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The story isn't about rape, it's about prostitution. 70%-80% of rapes are committed by someone the victim knows, not Johns picking up prostitutes.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 07:06 PM
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I need to work on being more thenthitive. Downvoted for unnecessary gay bashing. You realize that gay men are men, right? What's your problem? How do you expect to bring about any kind of change at all by celebrating completely groundless visceral attacks against police officers (in the article) and gay men and other MRA's? Are you completely fucking nuts? I didn't even mention sensitivity. You did. I'm arguing for effectiveness here. Effectiveness in conveying the truth to people like you who n…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 08:04 PM
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Downvoted for unnecessary condescension. This has nothing to do with "male" or "female" speech, and I'm not suggesting that I am a model for anything. Sounds like you may have some kind of complex you need to sort out thingsarebad. There are different ways to channel your energies when you advocate for a cause. You can focus your energy on making a rational and convincing argument that will win hearts and minds to your cause, or you can go nuclear and lash out calling anybody who crosses you a t…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 07:31 PM
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Wary of their own doorbell? Really? How would you expect someone that sheltered to even survive a trip to the grocery store, much less positive relationships with other human beings...?
/r/MensRights23/09/11 06:05 PM
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Look, if I had a daughter or a wife I would absolutely want them to err on the cautious side. On the cautious side of... not answering the doorbell? Your wife? Seriously??
/r/MensRights23/09/11 06:01 PM
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OMG MISOGYNY
/r/MensRights23/09/11 05:57 PM
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Personally I think that straight men have as much right to dictate what we should want as females do—that is, none whatsoever. We are men, yes, but our concerns are not always the same. This is a valid concern, but we are the same gender and especially in legal arenas we will collectively face the same kinds of discriminatory enforcement in sexual assault cases and family court, among other areas, that unfairly demonize men as sexual predators, pedophiles, abusers, and unfit parents. Establishme…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 04:43 PM
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MRAs need to cut the emotional, bitter shit. Paul Elam, bless his heart, is very well informed on MRA issues but has a tendency to go a little overboard with the hyperbole and melodrama, which is why I don't read very much VfM these days and tend to prefer Pierce Harlan or Glenn Sacks.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 04:21 PM
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It's a terrible story, but...what about it? Seems like just another example of a dad being an indentured servant rather than a father and integral member of the family. This is all the respect an alarming number in our culture have for fathers.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 04:10 PM
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I don't even know why I bother... Noble effort, but I honestly don't know why anyone bothers either. NSWATM is little better than Manboobz, ultimately aiming to co-opt MRM to regurgitate feminist messaging instead of allowing us to speak out for ourselves.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 04:06 PM
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But in the case of the alcohol, their values no longer inform their decisions as strongly, and this change can be linked directly to a substance that they imbibed. But the article makes the case to the contrary. Judgment is not necessarily impaired. You're more vulnerable to your impulses, but you're not unable to make decisions. The argument you make here is directly counter to the study's findings. Also, I made a late edit to my previous post right before you put this up: What about other thin…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 02:50 AM
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In the other case, she does it because she is mentally affected by a substance that makes her not care about her decisions as much. This is what I was trying to point out to you though. Buttering a girl up with a fast car or an expensive dinner is "mentally affecting" her too. Dating is all mental, right? Being "affected" isn't necessarily "impaired", which is what I get out of this article. As human beings, we all have different rhythms and experience different mood swings and states of mind th…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 02:24 AM
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Its making them consent to something they wouldn't have otherwise. Perhaps, but also consider the fact that the For side is arguing for the proposition that men have lost social dominance, something that /r/MensRights discusses extensively and I think most of us agree is happening, for better or for worse? They may be spelling out an ugly collective future for our gender, but in a way we already knew that, right? This is our cause, the crowd was swayed from the de facto belief of a patriarchal s…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 02:11 AM
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Its making them consent to something they wouldn't have otherwise. But is that a valid definition of consent? I'm inclined to say no. Taking it to the logical extreme: If I borrow my buddy's new Beemer to impress a girl and we end up getting freaky in the back seat, if she realizes afterward that I really drive a Chrysler and she wouldn't have had sex with me if she knew, does that invalidate her consent? That's my understanding of what's at issue here. It's whether a drinker is capable of makin…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 01:52 AM
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THE PATRIARCHY DUH Because they teach it in schools. They make you sit through it in college orientation. They draw up ad campaigns smearing the entire gender for the existence of sex crimes. Politicians shovel it to get women's vote. We even have laws codifying the double standard. It's a movement. It's pervasive. The thing is, men stand now where women stood 150 years ago. A woman can beat and rape her man and the law will look the other way. They don't all do it, but they have the option and …
/r/MensRights23/09/11 01:44 AM
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In the context of the consent debate, the status quo supposition is that one drop of alcohol makes women unable to say yes to sex. (Although men can still be held accountable for their decision to have sex while drunk for some reason.) This calls that somewhat into question.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 01:37 AM
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Nice gender pingeon-holing there Lou. That's bound to draw loads of constructive non-reactionary answers... The answer is that it's not any one person's fault. It's an ideology. It's an ideology that the worst traits of a few men apply unequivocally to all men, and that the other gender must therefore own all the other, desirable traits. It's a virulent misconception that is fueled in large part by the 150-year-old Feminism movement's worship of the "empowered woman", which government and non-pr…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 01:33 AM
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when you bomb an apartment complex or marketplace Read more Sun Tzu. The reason why wars happen is to prevent one side from obliterating the other unopposed. And US military regulations forbid women to be on the front lines shooting down the enemy bombers. Such a lazy crock of shit counterargument.
/r/MensRights22/09/11 11:02 PM
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Posted in regards to the ongoing consent & alcohol sexual assault debate, obviously.
/r/MensRights22/09/11 10:01 PM
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To say however that you have the right, backed by threat of violence, to receive services from unwilling private individuals is morally indefensible. The "facilities open to the public" aspect is the key distinction. If you own a bar or restaurant and welcome the general public into your establishment, it isn't legal for you to refuse service to certain customers based on racial profiling, the same way the same act forbids private employers from firing employees based on racial profiling. "Unwil…
/r/MensRights22/09/11 05:25 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#Origins The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963, in which he asked for legislation "giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments," as well as "greater protection for the right to vote."
/r/MensRights22/09/11 04:09 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#Origins The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963, in which he asked for legislation "giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments," as well as "greater protection for the right to vote."
/r/MensRights22/09/11 04:08 PM
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I agree, but at least there is a whiff of good faith in a protective measure. On a crowded commuter train, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable myself snuggled into the cleavage of someone of the opposite sex I've never met and may not find at all desirable. Excluding men from soccer games under the pretense of preventing violence demonstrates only bad faith and discrimination.
/r/MensRights22/09/11 04:01 PM
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According to the local paper, she is now charged with murder one and will be appearing in court later today: http://www.messengernews.net/page/content.detail/id/542480/Newborn-s-body-found-in-FD-hotel.html?nav=5010
/r/MensRights21/09/11 05:28 PM
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Thought so. Begging to differ, thinking doesn't seem to be one of your strengths.
/r/MensRights21/09/11 05:07 PM
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Let me Google it for you! Seriously, I'm not picking a specific one because it doesn't do the prevalence of the problem justice. You may as well ask me to pick one specific example to prove that death and taxes are inevitable. Quit being willfully obtuse. This is the driving force of this subreddit. There are literally thousands of articles, studies and personal cries for help surrounding false or misrepresented rape or sexual molestation charges two clicks away from this message. Take your pick…
/r/MensRights21/09/11 04:49 PM
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A few examples here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/ Just a few, mind you. A few.
/r/MensRights21/09/11 04:03 PM
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And where is the counter example of a man getting a bigger sentence for the same crime? You're joking right? Also, notably, she is no longer allowed unsupervised contact with boys under the age of 18. Which is good inasmuch as the authorities didn't do nothing. On the other hand, if it were a man she would have been featured on To Catch a Predator, placed on a sex offender registry for life and probably imprisoned and beaten in jail for being a filthy pedophile. So yeah, the double standard is s…
/r/MensRights21/09/11 03:55 PM
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Disgusting. You can't even excuse this as a protective measure like women-only trains and busses. This is completely transparent stereotyping and gender discrimination. Can't wait to see the mental gymnastics on exhibition the first time a group of women gets unruly and the league is forced to confront their own prejudice.
/r/MensRights21/09/11 03:48 PM
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She was receiving zero support from her father before, so there's no way to be worse off there. Everyone is worse off than before. She can cave to self-righteousness and pretend she isn't, but she's substantially worse off with dad stuck in a cycle of debt and prison. Even if he wasn't making his support payments before, for whatever reasons, he had some prospects and some potential ability to pay. As he sits and rots behind bars though, whatever he possesses in terms of skills and knowledge is …
/r/MensRights21/09/11 03:39 PM
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And do you know what gives you your reputation Aerik? Tolling MRM's trolls. Wheee, trollercoaster!
/r/MensRights20/09/11 09:27 PM
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Dyslexia is a special need. So is quadriplegia. The article doesn't tell us which one the child has.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 07:44 PM
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$10,040 is a way less than half of what most parents spend in a year to take care of a special needs child. If the father truly couldn't come up with that amount at any point during the past five years, he is doing so very terribly in life on the outside that he might be better off in a minimum security prison, where at least we can be sure he'll get enough to eat. So punish dad for having a disabled kid? I can't believe you're serious. If the little girl's disability is serious (the article doe…
/r/MensRights20/09/11 07:36 PM
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That's because Aerik and the /r/AgainstMensRights clowns are having their little circlejerk manipulating the vote tallies. It's interesting that it's always the threads they hijack that upvote the crazy. Note the referenced comment currently stands at -12. Not saying that there are no users in this community who may agree. Every bag of trail mix has a few nuts. But drama instigated by AMR is not representative. If you're reading these comments you can see the disconnect. None of us agrees with t…
/r/MensRights19/09/11 03:47 PM
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I fully expect "NickRausch" to discredit MRM just about as much as Andrea Dworkin discredited the women's rights movement. Downvoted for lazy concern trolling.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 04:09 AM
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Continue not getting laid and being bitter about it while I go out of my way to make a difference... all out of the perfect, selfless love I have for your lowly gender. Now now, check that privilege Rosie.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 03:11 AM
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Just like a male... Anyway continue with your woman-blaming. THE MIND, IT BOGGLES! Thank god for our Feminist overlords who look out for us menz and manage society's gender disparities for us so magnanimously. /s
/r/MensRights18/09/11 03:01 AM
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It is a bit suspect. I guess they can do independent surveys and extrapolate a statistic, but then you have a margin of error and that 5.4% could be pure sampling error. (This may be reported in the study, I am still at work and won't have time to read the report until this evening.) As for the driver(s) of any year-over-year reporting rate change? I guess that would be their job to report based on whatever surveys they've done to determine the unreported number. Without knowing the questions th…
/r/MensRights16/09/11 06:59 PM
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THIS THIS THIS THIS
/r/MensRights16/09/11 06:46 PM
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I see your point, but the difficulty is that neither Weiner nor DSK have chosen to reach for the addiction excuse to explain their behavior. It seems to be television and media personalities commenting on these cases who are pulling these diagnoses out of their asses - That's what I'm really objecting to here. If the men themselves were using it as a pretense to deflect ridicule, that would be a completely different discussion. What I'm seeing are outsiders who aren't even necessarily doctors (D…
/r/MensRights16/09/11 01:45 PM
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Relevence to Mens Rights?
/r/MensRights16/09/11 04:13 AM
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News and media expert Arnaud Mercier said that Strauss-Kahn was taking a risk with the live television appearance. "Live television can be destabilising. The image can also be treacherous and blur the message," said Mercier, from Metz University in northeastern France. "At the same time, he's chosen the formula that can be seen as the best proof that he doesn't have much to be reproached about by coming on France's most watched news program." Mercier said the interview with a journalist who is n…
/r/MensRights16/09/11 03:35 AM
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Not a mens rights issue. The media and society's neurotic moral watchdogs are so busy trying to conceal the human body and make us forget what eachother even look like under our clothes, any thoughtful and positive discussion of human anatomy is a good thing in my eyes.
/r/MensRights16/09/11 02:03 AM
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http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aanswers.yahoo.com+%22i+spent+the+night+at+my+boyfriend%27s+house+last+night%22
/r/MensRights15/09/11 11:12 PM
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Awesome redrafting of this by zyk0s earlier today
/r/MensRights15/09/11 11:07 PM
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Thanks for the recognition, but just as a word of warning: You're wasting your breath on this one.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 10:27 PM
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Anyone looking for an example of late-stage SRS pathology, please see the post above. francomaistre: Presumption of male guilt. Youre_So_Pathetic: FARTBAMA!!!1!
/r/MensRights15/09/11 09:30 PM
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I agree 100%. Ideally, incorporating all perspectives and accounting for all factors is the true path to positive social reform. Unfortunately, people of all stripes have all manner of blinders on that prevent them from pursuing a truly inclusive and supportive path to reform. Some MRA's, including myself at times, would argue that large numbers of feminists are very guilty of this in the pursuit of their vision of equality, unfairly to our gender's detriment. The reason why this specific conver…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 09:12 PM
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Obviously I don't have the answers to any of these problems. I do my best to understand the problem, and hope that in discussing and collaborating with others that we may eventually arrive at solutions. Like I said, class is a valid lense, and poverty is a serious problem that society owes itself the time and effort to solve. It's important. Perhaps I understate that fact. As far as the /r/MensRights issues are concerned, I'm just trying to give context to illuminate the MRA perspective on Femin…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 07:23 PM
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Thank you for the praise. May I ask what country? Always very interesting to compare how the dynamics vary from one society to another.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 07:12 PM
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SRS is a filthy cesspit of bigotry festering with trolls, less than 1/10th the size of /r/MensRights. They post this shit to get a rise out of us, and don't deserve the voice we give them when we repost their insanity here. Strongly recommend ignoring them entirely.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 07:09 PM
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Class is a valid lense through which we can evaluate these issues also. But that glosses over the essence of what we're discussing here: The statistical disparity that exists in high-earning professions which benefits men and feminists call "patriarchy", has the exact opposite statistical disparity at the bottom of the socio-economic scale to the disadvantage of men. The calculus underpinning both arguments is the same.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:54 PM
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Gender-derived advantages that apply equally to the ones at the bottom as much as the ones at the top? I'm not convinced. I'm not looking forward to a promotion to CEO anytime soon, or ever. A disproportionate amount of men are, but a disproportionate amount of men also lead miserable, dead-end lives digging ditches and disarming IEDs. In contrast, women have legal fiat and actual laws (like VAWA) extending exclusive protections to members of that gender only. We can trade assumptions about "pat…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:47 PM
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lol ok, I concede that she has gloves, but he has some advantages as well, boots of haste or something XD This is what Feminism indoctrinates people to believe.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:08 PM
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Working in a college setting may blur lines distinguishing work and fun, but per federal and state employment law, crude humor is not welcome in the workplace. Hostile work environment sexual harassment guidelines place heavy restrictions on it. If you feel the need to lighten the mood at work, learn this mantra: "Work appropriate." Save the crude humor for after work if you don't want to risk termination.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:06 PM
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She has military-industrial grade gloves called V.A.W.A. that only she can wear that give her an unchallenged advantage handling the umbrella. She used to be the one who got wet when it rained, back when only men were allowed to own umbrella's, and he's sympathetic to that and glad it changed, but because of those damn gloves he's the one getting soaked almost every time nowadays.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:52 PM
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I think the group that makes up overwhelming majorities in centers of political, cultural, and economic power might be a privileged, rather than an oppressed group Also the overwhelming majorities in the centers of unemployment, homelessness, parental alienation, combat deaths, and college dropout rates. YAY PRIVILEGE! If a person says he/she was raped, my first instinct is something other than to say "you lying piece of shit, you wanted it" Disproven on this very comment page before you even po…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:36 PM
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Human rights are the umbrella, men's rights and women's rights are the ones ducking the rain. Women's rights has a steady grip on the handle in 2011. Men's rights is standing out in the squall, drowning, and women's rights is asking him to throw his coat over a puddle so she doesn't get her combat boots wet.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:16 PM
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Hold the 51% majority gender accountable for their sexual malfeasance too! (Biden won't read this here, but given the track record I assume he won't read it even if I print it on a billboard outside his office window.)
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:07 PM
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Are the trolls from AMR and SRS here on Reddit pathological? Probably. I had my own run-in yesterday in which one of them stridently asserted that gendered recidivism statistics are a valid factor for excluding male prisoners from Californian early release programs. (An approach which would also discriminate against African Americans as a class, and is patently institutional discrimination.) See my comment history for the lulz. Typical straw-manning, name-calling stupidity. Do the women that NOW…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 04:42 PM
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Great comment! I would take this a step further and say that a lot of the problems with the legal system in general - not just for men - tend to stem from this misconception that some people "are" criminal, even if we can find no proof of the crime, and in American society today many people will find fault with an accused person and insist on their guilt even when the court system finds innocence. This religion-like devotion informs the mentality behind "where there's smoke there's fire", "presu…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 03:34 PM
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I've often speculated that the majority of rapes that get reported are probably false, while the majority of rapes that occur do not get reported. That's because a false accuser does not have feelings of shame/devaluation/trauma preventing them from saying they were raped. It's a lot easier to say it if it didn't actually happen to you--especially if it serves a purpose, solves a problem, or can help you mitigate feelings of shame you might have over a consensual sex act. This is an excellent an…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 03:24 PM
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This is a very thoughtful revision of the hypothetical. If it wasn't for the fact that conversation in the TwoX thread has pretty much died down by now, I would have encouraged you to post there and see how many minds you could change.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 03:19 PM
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BREAKING: Feminists support women who lie about the circumstances of who they sleep with under the specter of rape, and weren't forced to have sex or possibly never had sex with anyone at all. Story at 11. Also: http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/
/r/MensRights15/09/11 03:05 PM
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I gave you citations. On recidivism. Which you know very well is not what I asked for a citation on. Thanks for the helpful demonstration of the pulling stuff out of your ass thing that you mentioned earlier. And for wasting both our time on goal post rearranging non-conversation, you pathetic excuse for a bigoted human being. I hope that you take comfort in the fact that if there were more people like you in the world, slavery and legalized spousal rape would still be the order of the day. It d…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:02 AM
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A parole board looks at the evidence of ... whether the parolee is likely to re-offend (recidivism,) [citation needed] As a rabid man-hating misandrist, you would like this to be true, I'm absolutely aware of that, but you and your sexist kyriarchal ilk have a lot more work to do before the courts overturn Blackstone and the 250 years of equal protection jurisprudence written since. No, you brought it up when you posted a hilariously biased anti-Obama hit piece from the Wall Street Journal as yo…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 12:04 AM
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You do know that this is determined in a court of law and does not apply to a parole board, right? I can tell by the way you argue that you actually have no clue about the law, the criminal justice system, and criminology. I don't really care if you are ignorant of those things or not, but why are you arguing about stuff you are obviously ignorant about? It most certainly does apply. You cannot sentence the guilty for crimes they have not committed, which is exactly what you are defending when y…
/r/MensRights14/09/11 11:25 PM
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You do know what recidivism rates are right? You do know that they are a valuable tool used by criminologists and the criminal justice system to determine the likelihood of an offender re-offending, right? You do know they are based on statistical fact, not numbers pull out of an ass, right? You do know what the presumption of innocence is right? You do know that you can only be sentenced for offenses you are duly convicted of in a court of law? You do know that statistics are only generalizatio…
/r/MensRights14/09/11 10:37 PM
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DAE routinely confuse gaslighting with pyroflatulence?
/r/MensRights14/09/11 09:34 PM
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It is because the recidivism rate for women prisoners is lower than for men. Thus, it is pure logic to let women out of prison first. "Pure logic" seems like it would involve factoring in foundational principles of common law; IE the presumption of innocence. When the guilty are sentenced, presumed future crimes cannot be factored into that judgement. As such, recidivism disparities are not a legitimate basis for discriminating prisoner demographics to determine who should be eligible for early …
/r/MensRights14/09/11 09:28 PM
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I guess that will inevitably be true of some people, but it's no longer 1960 and there is shared vision between the races. A tremendous number of civil rights activists are white, and perhaps more importantly, men like the director of the iconically MRM oriented GUPI documentary are black and struggle with many of the same social stigmas and legal frustrations white MRA's struggle with. We're fighting the same battles here, we have a better chance of winning if we fight together.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 06:33 PM
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It's a crime that newspapers are still in business.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 05:43 PM
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Consensual sex only exists because of RAPE CULTURE!!!1! (Am I doin it rite /r/Feminisms?)
/r/MensRights14/09/11 04:07 PM
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Link to streaming: http://video.pbs.org/video/2128639112/
/r/MensRights14/09/11 03:29 PM
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I missed this last night and haven't actually at a chance to sit down and watch it yet, but it seems to me this is very much an MRM issue. There is an opportunity here to reach out to the activists involved with this documentary and collaborate on solving the achievement gap in a way that benefits struggling black boys and struggling non-black boys alike.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 03:20 PM
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Agreed. A number of the social problems black activists are trying to address these days really apply more widely to men as a whole, and maybe exacerbated by race, but isn't an exclusive correlation. We're always stronger united than divided, and I think it's important to stand in solidarity with our black brothers especially on these issues and seek recognition for the fact that there is also a broader gender concern here. As a related example, there was a special on PBS last night (that I'd in…
/r/MensRights14/09/11 02:56 PM
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Articles like this are why I do not understand the MRAs who encourage expatriation. To the best of my knowledge, all of the English speaking countries an American is likely to emigrate to - including Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand - seem just as much or perhaps more hostile to fathers in family court than the US. If you happen to speak Swedish, you may be an exception.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 02:03 PM
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Of course, the Eve Bit First philosophy. All sex is rape because rape is perpetrated through sex and all men share an organ with male rapists who create a system where all sex is coerced in some way for fear of rapists who share an organ with all other men and create a rape support culture of rape. But those of us who are rational about these issues can at least agree, I think, that people who espouse these kinds of nutter points of view are about as relevant to the discussion as the birthers, t…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 11:52 PM
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I see you downvoted my other post as well. Allow me to thank you personally for being such a shining example of adulthood and not in the slightest a defensive fanboy asshat. Also: Hope that saves someone else some eyestrain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You
/r/MensRights13/09/11 09:54 PM
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they are not following my argument. That's what I mean by classical conditioning. Some just won't hear it. They react to the encoded trigger word and react automatically with the rehearsed narrative. I think I made that clear. People should take responsibility for their own safety, but they are not legally obligated to do so. Clear to you and me, yes, but clear to them? Not so sure. I guess what I'm trying to get across to you is, by changing up your wording I think you can get the same point ac…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 09:49 PM
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Errant thought: It's a lot like saying "No" if you don't want to have sex with someone. If you say "No", it's clear that you deny consent. But if for some reason you never said "No" (assuming you had the opportunity) then...? It's not a "Yes", you haven't given consent, but it's less clear whether the sex was really rape. Likewise, if you go to some guy's apartment wearing nothing but a naughty nightie and end up having sex with him, it's not as clear that she wasn't consenting or may have been …
/r/MensRights13/09/11 09:42 PM
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It's basically classical conditioning implanted by the feminist messaging machine. I was involved in a different rape/consent discussion about a week ago and I happened to make a passing mention of clothing in an analogy trying to make a point about alcohol and consent. Even though it was completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, to my surprise the other commenter immediately jumped on the clothing thing and asked me if I was equating clothing to alcohol. It was like a trigger word: The s…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 09:26 PM
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I think I don't. I've already said I can see the image just fine, and my comments speak for themselves. Not sure how this explains a whole bunch of downvotes. Note to self, xkcd has some seriously defensive fanboys.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 08:56 PM
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About 45% of the state's 10,000 female inmates may be eligible for the program, the CDCR said. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_California: The California State Prison System is administered by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation Division of Adult Institutions. which had 170,588 inmates as of 2007 - 475 inmates per 100,000 state residents), has been the focus of attention for growing influence upon the state's political arena. 5.9% of the prison population, be…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 07:44 PM
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I'm being downvoted for not liking a drawing? Really? Way to be adults, guys. It's not that it's too small, it's mostly that it's a big, dark, muddy mess with a weird distorted sense of perspective. What I saw at first was two groups of people standing at opposite ends of dark "grass" under white "sky" with confusing angular obstacles standing between. It wasn't until I read the filename that I really got it. It doesn't help that the image only depicts 3/4 of 2 vehicles.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 07:30 PM
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The link isn't so much an article as an announcement for a debate being held next week at NYU discussing the achievement gap, featuring Christina Hoff Sommers on the opposition side, for what it's worth.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 07:23 PM
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/1is2many/about: On June 20, 1990, then-Senator Joe Biden introduced the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) in the United States Congress. This act was a landmark piece of legislation that changed the way our country responded to domestic violence and sexual assault. VAWA changed law enforcement practices, improved the criminal justice system, and created a network of services for victims. The bill established new federal crimes of interstate domestic violence and stalkin…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 05:56 PM
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I had to squint at the computer screen and look over the drawing at least 10 times before I figured out what the hell I'm looking at here. It's a minivan and a crossover, parked side by side, with stickers on the rear windows. Hope that saves someone else some eyestrain. The xkcd guy needs to learn to draw for real, or stick to straight b&w.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 04:42 PM
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she is balls awesome not sure if ltrl D: Seriously, congrats if it's worked out for you. I'm creeped out by the typical singles bar goer. Craigslist, or any other personal ads for that matter, just play havoc with my imagination.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 04:35 PM
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Good luck on your date. Have a craigslist bootycall on standby just in case the date goes bad. Can't speak for crazyex, but I'm not real comfortable with the idea of buying dead, diseaseless merchandise through craigslist. You would get freaky with something you dug up there? Ick.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 04:08 PM
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since the divorce on Saturday Divorced on Saturday, back on the dating scene by Tuesday. Giggity.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 03:11 PM
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Interested! What chapter is this quote from? What is the conclusion? Found the quote on Google Books but the correct page isn't freely available.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 02:48 PM
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men need to be oppressed Okay, time for you to slither back to your pathetic echo chamber "safe space" subreddit cave, you pathetic misandrist troll.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 02:27 PM
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Again you speak with undue authority on a subject you've told us yourself you don't take seriously and aren't aware of the issues in. MRM is still being founded as a movement. Feminism is in its third wave. There are MRA's that are anti-women. There are national feminist organizations that are anti-men. Apple. Orange. You can run around claiming they're the same fruit, but all you accomplish is making yourself look look terribly stupid to outside observers. Have fun with that.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 02:19 PM
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What you don't grasp, however, is that this sub-reddit is not really about mens' rights - it's about anti-feminism. You speak with a perplexing level of authority about the true purpose a subreddit you confess up front to subscribing to for troll material to post on facebook. Also Feminism =/= women. This is the second time you carelessly equate the two. You don't possibly grasp the concept of male rights if you can't even keep that point straight. There's no point in any of us even trying to di…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:41 PM
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I see plenty of posts here just simply outlining a crime a woman has committed. I fail to see how a woman's crime == men's rights. They have nothing to do with each other. You subscribed to this reddit for troll material to post on facebook. You've never even tried to grasp the real purpose and context. Have a downboat.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:14 PM
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Prosecutors say the woman, identified in court papers as Jane Doe, begged for her life before Son and Gaitan released her, naked, badly injured and blindfolded with her own pants. She went to a local home, where police were called. Evidence was collected from the woman that Christmas Eve, but the case eventually went cold. It wasn't until Son pleaded guilty to felony vandalism in 2008 and violated probation that he was required to provide a DNA sample. That sample was linked to DNA collected fro…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:11 PM
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Lourie S 4 Fans 2 hours ago (5:49 AM) This is just absolutely disgusting­! I hope she rots in prison long past the point of her body's ability to produce anymore children! I wish the court could legally order her tubes tied! And if her "boyfriend­" asked her to do this, I sure hope he rots in prison too! Because the man is always to blame, am I right guys?
/r/MensRights10/09/11 11:44 AM
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Vague article is vague But Helen Wilkinson, a former project director of the Demos think-tank who recently set up the Genderquake business consultancy, suggested that Lessing's attack was out of date. "There is a new generation that has said 'we need a new language, because many of the old battles have been won and now we need new challenges'. "If I was putting a generational political spin on, it is like the mothers in revolt against the daughters, for something that we have already said doesn'…
/r/MensRights10/09/11 04:27 AM
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http://americanhistory.si.edu/brown/history/5-decision/segregation-argument.html
/r/MensRights10/09/11 03:10 AM
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http://americanhistory.si.edu/brown/history/5-decision/segregation-argument.html
/r/MensRights10/09/11 03:09 AM
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You could live your life in fear of things that might or might not happen, or you could enjoy and value what you've got. The latter option is what gets me out of bed every day. With all due respect to you, I believe this is almost word-for-word the segregationist argument against freeing the slaves. Some injustices must be fought.
/r/MensRights07/09/11 04:24 AM
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As other commenters have already pointed out, I think you are misreading the placement of the modifier in that sentence. "Long pants or long dresses"? Prof's bad, it's a science class, not an English class. The real gender equality question is this: Will you, or will you not be allowed in the lab room wearing a long dress? (Presuming you are a man.)
/r/MensRights07/09/11 03:47 AM
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Also, I wasn't talking about court cases or child custody. Why do you feel the need to bring those things up here, where it is a moot point? You are aware that you are posting this in /r/MensRights, aren't you? These are the issues on the table. We feel the need to bring these up because these are the experiences we have as fathers, and important issues we need to discuss. It is on-topic. While you may not have been aware of it as the child in these experiences, there very well may have been tim…
/r/MensRights06/09/11 05:43 PM
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tl;dr I shared a nice, happy story. I wanted to give people something to smile about. Don't get offended by that. The story itself is fine. Even uplifting. Thank you for sharing it! Whether you are aware of it or not, the conclusion panels are spring-loaded with irony. Nobody's saying that false accusation is the universal experience, anymore than you are saying your experience is the universal experience. The problem is that the possibility is out there, and when the wheels set in motion they w…
/r/MensRights06/09/11 05:34 PM
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This is why American Redditors create such a shitstorm of social drama. Young people in the USA have been trained in school to believe that freedom of speech is a prime directive. Everybody should be able to say whatever they want, whenever they want - even if it's damaging for society. Also, we Americans have enshrined the idea of "opinion." In conversations here, people are not allowed to state their argument with confidence - they must qualify everything with the idea that theirs is only one …
/r/MensRights05/09/11 07:05 AM
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(sydney and melbourne represent about 75% of the population between them shattering the crocodile dundee myth, and in fact making australia the most urban country in the world I believe) On a slightly-unfair technicality, that would be Singapore.
/r/MensRights05/09/11 06:34 AM
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Yes. I work in advertising for a living and I have done pro-bono work for numerous social causes. I happen to know that if the public hears a message that they don't care about, it doesn't matter how many times they hear it. And I'm saying that there is good reason to believe that most of the public isn't going to care about misandry and discrimination. In that case, I can understand why you would think this way about messaging. However, it needs to be recognized that advertising and advocacy ar…
/r/MensRights04/09/11 05:28 PM
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It's funny to me that the US government is trying to promote fatherhood while simultaneously allowing family courts to fuck fathers out of custody. ಠ_ಠ To be fair, family court is state jurisdiction. Right-hand left-hand problem?
/r/MensRights04/09/11 06:52 AM
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We are also anti-sexist. We simply perceive the greater body of feminism to be extremely sexist. So in that, I hope you oppose NOW when they oppose assumed shared custody, for instance. THIS A THOUSAND TIMES We can play the No True Scotsman rhetorical game as much as we want and claim the misandrist voices aren't actually feminists. The only problem being that the most influential voices of feminism, including Hillary Clinton and the National Organization of Women, have a record of working again…
/r/MensRights04/09/11 06:39 AM
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I'm not a language expert by any means, but my understanding of the term when people use it as a noun, corroborated by urbandictionary, is that it has more to do with the type of guy who doesn't make the effort to keep his beard properly groomed, not so much the fact that the hair will grow out around the neck if you don't shave and allow it to. By that definition, I believe most or all men would qualify as "neckbeards"...
/r/MensRights04/09/11 06:22 AM
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The thing is, the Constable who created all this backlash was the campus sexual assault specialist and should be a better judge of that than any of us armchair experts on the sidelines. He wasn't just some rookie cop with "opinions" shooting his mouth off about crime. He was the guy the city police put on campus to inform female students about sexual assault. This is very important and has been completely lost in the ensuing shitstorm. He was trying to tell them that it is a factor they can use …
/r/MensRights03/09/11 03:09 AM
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Alcohol is a very important factor, but that's just the thing: They are factors. The slutwalk chicks refuse to even acknowledge that it is a factor. If you want to wear attention-grabbing slutty clothes, don't do it where heavy drinking is taking place and/or you're not sure you can trust strangers to keep their hands to themselves. If you want to go out and do some serious drinking (rarely a good idea, IMO, buy whatever) don't do it wearing nothing but underwear and makeup. I won't blame you fo…
/r/MensRights03/09/11 02:57 AM
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Clothing choice has very little to do with who's to blame when sexual assault happens. The role in preventing rape from happening is less clear. This was the point the arch villian of the slutwalks, Constable Sanguinetti, was trying to convey to the women attending his campus safety lecture when they flipped their shit and started organizing marches. Remember, sexual assault is an extremely watered down term. The vast majority of sexual assaults are not Hollywood-inspired backalley rapes. The va…
/r/MensRights03/09/11 02:44 AM
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OH MY GOD I'm so sorry But that is a hilarious story in hindsight, thank you for sharing
/r/MensRights03/09/11 02:19 AM
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I lost my virginity at 17 to the girl I was dating at the time. She was also 17. She had many issues overcoming the pain of losing her virginity, so for a year it had kinda troubled us, coupled with the fact that neither of us really knew how to do this thing yet. He already explained, why are we still splitting this hair AGGHGHGHGHGHGHG
/r/MensRights03/09/11 02:18 AM
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thatsthejoke.jpg
/r/MensRights03/09/11 02:10 AM
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Fascinatingly, they also have some kind of association for students and faculty, which is called (ever so embarrassingly) the Old Girls' Association: http://www.timarugirls.school.nz/tghs-old-girls-association-new.html Let's regender this sucker, shall we? The most important aspect of the activities of the Old Boys’ Association must be the fellowship and friendship which begins at school and is carried on throughout a lifetime The first meeting of the Old Boys Association was held in Timaru on J…
/r/MensRights02/09/11 11:13 PM
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What a shame. That's really messed up. I see New Zealand has learned from their English cousins how to really formalize the man-hate within state institutions.
/r/MensRights02/09/11 11:09 PM
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Personally, I have no problem wrapping up when she's having monthlies and doing the dirty deed. Sadly for me, she's squicked by it and won't let me. Needless to say, since Feministe's complaining about it, it's a little more complicated than "If XYZ ... you are a misogynist."
/r/MensRights02/09/11 10:33 PM
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What if misandry and discrimination against men become more recognized by society, and no one cares? This is a totally false and mutually exclusive dichotomy. Let me ask you, have you ever been involved with any kind of social organizing at all? If no one cares about the message, it inherently limits public awareness. Message and awareness are inextricably linked. Just look at the confusing mess surrounding the slutwalks. And people are becoming more aware of MRM. Just ask the city of San Franci…
/r/MensRights02/09/11 09:44 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of Feminist.com being directly involved in advocacy or lobbying efforts, or having a leadership position within the movement. Not entirely unlike /r/MensRights. We are aware that there are feminists who are about equality, but there's very little evidence to support the claim that feminism is about equality. On the contrary, the groups that represent you in government slander Men's Rights organizations as hate groups and manipulate statistics to misrepr…
/r/MensRights02/09/11 02:21 PM
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Relevance to MRM?
/r/MensRights01/09/11 11:33 PM
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I believe I can speak for virtually all of us when I say "We agree". Because MRA's aren't the ones who hold crazy oppression olympics beliefs like this.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 09:29 PM
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Well, this case gives the lie to that and doesn’t beat around the bush about it. No one believes that it takes $8,000 a month ($96,000 a year) to support a child 4% of the time. The money has nothing to do with child support; it has everything to do with deadbeat Mom support. In this case, the bottom line is, well, the bottom line, and it is this - Jon earns a lot of money, Sarah earns none; therefore Jon pays Sarah even though he’s the custodial parent. Simple. Now no opinion in a custody case …
/r/MensRights01/09/11 08:39 PM
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This subreddit is disappointed with you It just doesn't understand you. Why are you all about hating on this subreddit? Most MRM blogs are about things like family planning, fertility, health, economic rights etc. This subreddit would imagine you would be similar but you aren't. Do real feminists really bitch about MRM subreddits all day long? I don't think so.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 03:46 PM
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Yeesh. Why even link to this stuff? What else would you like thetrollking to do with his time? :)
/r/MensRights01/09/11 03:41 PM
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Third: Fear and intimidation. Just like with rape cases that don't make it to trial because the victim fears for their safety, livelihood or reputation. If your SO is crazy, or you think they're going to trump up domestic violence charges to pad their case, or string you along to break you financially, or make your child suffer during the course of the legal battle, you may cave to the pressure and not fight for custody. Just like a rape victim might cave to pressure and not file charges. But su…
/r/MensRights31/08/11 09:51 PM
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This explains why the FAQ never got updated with the prison rape information Kloo started working on here. Any chance Ignatiusloyola will get around to populating this? I really feel like this is important information MRAs need to have at their disposal in any discussion of "rape culture". Best of luck Kloo!
/r/MensRights31/08/11 08:43 PM
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I don't know anything about the Donner Party. Fixed that for you brother.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 04:13 PM
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Three cheers to Prudence for calling the evil bitch out hardcore! Although honestly this strikes me as slightly perplexing advise: And please, everyone who is in love, keep in mind you can share your body and your soul with your beloved, but sharing your password is not such a good idea. Anyone else get the impression that this would be fighting words to the average feminist?
/r/MensRights31/08/11 02:53 PM
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Considerable anecdotal evidence suggest huge disparities in DV law enforcement from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, even within the same state. Also for alimony and custody rulings. I hope I live in your jurisdiction. I'll do my best to avoid misinformed66's neck of the woods.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 02:41 PM
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Food for thought: Have you seen that feminist symbol? The fist enclosed within the sign of Venus? It's even used on the Wikipedia article for feminism. In contrast, have you taken a close look at the symbol at the top of this page recently? Equality sign enclosed in the sign of Mars? There does seem to be a subtle suggestion of a big difference in mentality there, if you ask me.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 02:34 PM
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FIRE representative on HuffPo? In b4 the ultra progressive feminists flip their shit and call him a misogynist.
/r/MensRights30/08/11 09:48 PM
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Thank you for the explanation and clarification. Mind you, it's not just that you created a new account to come out about your experience that invites skepticism. It's that you take this approach at this time, in this way, in the midst of /r/AMR's troll campaign against /r/MR, and haven't posted comments in any other or related /r/MensRights thread either. I didn't want to create gossipy drama by posting them specifically, but there was a topic recently in which tomek77, who I actually really lo…
/r/MensRights28/08/11 03:40 AM
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It's honestly getting pretty alienating for any abuse victims like myself on these forums. Consider me perplexed that a redditor for 48 minutes can feel aliented from reddit. In the unlikely event this is a serious concern for you and you aren't just another concern troll as you claim, you would have a million more times credibility if you owned your shit to at least some minor degree and didn't register a new account in order to post about it in the most concern-troll possible way. To me, it's …
/r/MensRights28/08/11 02:25 AM
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Oh noes. There's injustice in the world. Must be a plot against women. VAWA
/r/MensRights27/08/11 06:15 PM
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"[W]hose sound-bite quality has quite predictably led the public to reach a grossly inaccurate conclusion, and to support legislation that exacerbates the problem rather than solving it."
/r/MensRights26/08/11 11:36 PM
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This is what N.O.W. establishment feminists actually believe.
/r/MensRights26/08/11 11:20 PM
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Feminism is synonymous with egalitarianism and has been since its inception. Could you do MRM a favor and inform the organizations that represent you of this fact? Feminists tell you that the solution to men's issues is more feminism. In reality, feminists fight against men's issues. I am both a feminist and an egalitarianist. You may (or may not) be both. I have met a few feminists are both. Most feminists are 100% focused on enriching women and have no time to spare for the menz. See also the …
/r/MensRights26/08/11 04:25 PM
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Is Men's Rights about denying women's experiences or right to be treated well-- just as men have that right? Is that what you take away from the links posted here? It's certainly not what I take away. You can find misogynist comments if you're looking to go cherry picking, but that has nothing to do with the goals of the movement. MRM seeks to achieve substantive reforms, as outlined in the /r/MensRights FAQ and many of the articles posted here. Denying women's experiences is not a substantive g…
/r/MensRights24/08/11 06:06 PM
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Agree this should be on the sidebar. Was looking for statistics on this a few weeks ago and struggled with Google for the better part of an hour before finding what I was looking for.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 03:09 PM
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Parental role towards women? I thought you were making sense for a second, but no, I don't agree with that at all, and I don't think the majority of MRAs would. Most of the established Men's Rights organizations, such as they are, are dedicated to the defense of fatherhood. Fatherhood is not the only valid territory of MRM, but given that it's the area the first MRM organizations are founded on, it's obviously the most vital one. Parenthood - of children - is an important factor of many men's li…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:40 PM
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This is true, but this concern is framed in a vacuum. Feminism's success has resulted in men being less equal, and unless we do something the scales will only become steadily and perpetually more imbalanced. There is no point in being concerned about overreach in the current environment where we virtually have no reach at all.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:22 PM
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It's not an uncommon literary device. Feministe isn't a literary blog about characters in fiction though. It's a social activism blog about real people, in real life, that I guess hypothetically is supposed to inform real social interactions. If the writer couches her life experiences as a literary exercise and is either not sincere or not serious in her reflection and commentary, what value do they have? How does that help anyone, if it's unclear whether she's talking about reality or not? I be…
/r/MensRights07/08/11 11:58 PM
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Some feminists maybe for gender equality, however few and far between they maybe. Feminism is about enriching women. Equality is something Feminism must pay lip-service to in order to keep non-man-hating feminists and their checkbooks on the bandwagon in order to keep lobbying for the enrichment of women. Feminism never acts in the defense of men. For evidence of this look no farther than the slut-shaming of Anthony Weiner, which occurred during the height of the slutwalks, but never entered int…
/r/MensRights07/08/11 10:43 PM
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Because that is what most of MR argues for. You speak pretty authoritatively of the movement for a person with no other recent posts in /r/MensRights? The only thing most of MR argues for is respect for (lower case) men's rights.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 10:14 PM
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Similarly: It's obvious from his karma:post ratio that Neckrobeard doesn't come to Reddit to debate topics. Being taken to task by an Obvious Troll is such delicious irony.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 10:07 PM
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Yes, because sterilization of the male half is always the best solution to gender issues. Everyone look. Look, look. Our troll shows his true colors.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 09:43 PM
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overview for Neckrobeard 1 link karma -329 comment karma TROPHY CASE reddit mold
/r/MensRights07/08/11 09:39 PM
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This stuff is for real, this is not simply a bunch of guys complaining on the internet. Read the article again, particularly the first few paragraphs... Yeah, about that: Fuck I am sick to death of this petulant little boy fucking attitude from some of you guys. There IS a world out there you will someday HAVE to join. What kind of fucking world do you want that to be? A subject you obviously know quite a bit about. And obviously you think the kind of fucking world you think it should be is the …
/r/MensRights07/08/11 08:43 PM
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You didn't click the link or read the comment.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 03:14 AM
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I agree with everything you say here. I especially agree that empirical studies do demonstrate the current need for MRM. I just also recognize that had Feminism a voice of true egalitarianism decades ago, numerous problems could have been avoided. This leads me to hope that after some decades it won't turn out that we have made some of the same mistakes. I agree with the sentiment here, but I think it's important to point out that the corollary is also true: The status quo is an environment of i…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 05:44 PM
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If it was in Great Britain, it would last until the commission on reducing the female prison population drew up a proposal to shut it down.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 09:51 PM
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Even more unconcealed misandry in response to this case here: http://www.facebook.com/CBSNews/posts/255500967797448 he probably deserved it. nice! :) LOL good girl :D Lol. Crazy bitch. Wow! Thats a hella way to teach him a lesson. she learned from Larina but this lady did it right.. cut it off and throw it in a blender or in this case a Garbage disposal ... Let the late night talk show jokes begin lol!!! ‎... well... apparently his marriage was "Cut Short" ... :-D Poor bastard! she should of pic…
/r/MensRights13/07/11 07:51 PM
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In the overwhelming majority of Massachusetts cases today, mothers receive sole custody and fathers are only allowed to spend a few days a month with their children. Does Gal actually expect us to believe that this occurs independent of gender bias? That mothers are such better parents than fathers that courts are truly acting in children’s best interests by severely restricting their time with their fathers? I can't help but point out the rhetorical weakness in the above paragraph. As phrased, …
/r/MensRights11/07/11 06:51 AM
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I purposefully avoid the blogosphere aftermath because I have neither the time nor the desire to read the mountains of literature devoted to this bullshit. Then you are way behind on events and/or completely off-topic for this subreddit. When Watson had her encounter with Elevator Guy and felt uncomfortable, it was a personal matter only of genuine importance to her and Elevator Guy. (And perhaps, at most, hotel security.) When she and her fellow SkepChick bloggers and readers took it to the nex…
/r/MensRights09/07/11 08:24 PM
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Oh, come on. If you really think Richard Dawkins is "suffering" over this whole ordeal, you need to take a step back. You seem to be very selectively cognizant of the circumstances of this debate. Watson is an atheist blogger reaching out to other atheist bloggers to boycott Dawkins' work, despite the fact that he happens to be the leading figure in their community. She and her feminist cronies are without a doubt taking advantage of every resource they have within their power to make Dawkins su…
/r/MensRights09/07/11 07:44 PM
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She's not trying to "manipulate others behavior through social class", that's ridiculous. You are ignoring Richard Dawkins' whole involvement in the story, and the fact that she and the feminist blogosphere are now whipping up a shitstorm trying to discredit an incredibly intelligent man who was supposedly someone she looked up to, for questioning her claims stemming from the elevator encounter. She and those around her are using social institutions to control the message and institute controls …
/r/MensRights09/07/11 07:02 PM
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If women - eg dipshits like Rebecca Watson - want to be paranoid about men, who fucking cares? I am aware most women an unreasonable fear of men but do you think I moderate my behaviour accordingly? No fucking way! I am not responsible for how someone reacts to me or feels about me - and I couldn't give a shit either way. The problem is that dipshits like Rebecca Watson respond to their unreasonable fear by ramping up their social networks and stirring up a shitstorm in the feminist blogosphere,…
/r/MensRights09/07/11 06:33 AM
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No, it's not analogous to rape or sexual assault like some people have said, but it's still a pretty awkward situation. Which is why she was uncomfortable. Which she has every right to be. Sure, whatever, she can feel however she wants to feel about whatever fleeting encounters she might have in the middle of the night at a hotel conference. That doesn't in anyway mean that the guy in the elevator owes her comfort and refined social graces like he's just a character in the stage show that is her…
/r/MensRights09/07/11 04:44 AM
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I'm sure you propose this with the best of intentions, but I'm with OThomson on this. Trying to engineer some kind of phoney boloney PR campaign with cherry picked images of smiling couples professionally photographed in semi-formal dress in pastoral settings seems like a pretty dramatic mischaracterization of many MRA's experiences and subtly subverts the movement and concerns that drives many of us to be MRA's in the first place. Maybe it's a separation or divorce situation, maybe we've been s…
/r/MensRights08/07/11 10:43 PM
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Don't believe that MRA is a thing? That's a novel reaction. The reaction I'm more accustomed to is more along the lines of: "Oh sure, MRA is a thing. A thing called FOREVER ALONE DERP."
/r/MensRights08/07/11 10:05 PM
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And I completely agree, but I'm saying that we can be aggressive without pulling the same retarded routine that the opposition does. Of course. That's the balancing act we have to strike in order to be taken seriously as a movement. We have to work with, and convince non-MRA's of to fight for the injustices that are being perpetrated oppressively against innocent men. But at the same time: come out on top without people looking back at the "evil patriarchy rising again." This is exactly the atti…
/r/MensRights08/07/11 08:33 PM
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I believe that this is the overarching problem in all of the strife between us and feminists today: We see all of the ridiculous things that we do to one another and to ourselves in the name of our movements, and we end up losing sight of each others' beliefs. This analysis misses a key factor: While different MRA's will choose different words and characterize it in slightly different shades of gray, MRM was inextricably borne out of feminism. If it wasn't for overreaching feminist legislation l…
/r/MensRights08/07/11 05:33 PM
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Firmly disagree, taking the headline above as just one example, and also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZAuqkqxk9A#t=3m32s
/r/MensRights08/07/11 03:45 PM
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Interestingly I stopped [crossing the street to avoid women] [being maniacally paranoid] when I moved to South Minneapolis a number of years back because it would have been considered very bad form. Fixed that for him. Say what you mean to say, dude.
/r/MensRights08/07/11 03:38 PM
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Also of note is the headline's affirmation of the tendency for men to only be identified by their gender in the media when they kill or are killed.
/r/MensRights07/07/11 09:22 PM
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they said he was in a luxury hotel, but Sofitel is NOT a luxury hotel Ummmm... http://www.sofitel.com/gb/discovering-sofitel-hotel/digital-directory.shtml Sofitel creates unique luxury hotels in the world’s most attractive destinations, by the artful blending of its French origins with the very best of local cultures.
/r/MensRights01/07/11 03:58 AM
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Incidentally, this was my favorite call of the program: LINDA (Caller): Hi. Yes, I had an experience. This happened several years ago, many years ago, in fact. I was taking a college course and one of the students followed me home. I was quite surprised to see him. And, in any event, there was nobody else home and he attempted to rape me. He did not succeed. I ended up shutting down. I just kind of curled up into a ball and didn't give him the response he wanted. And eventually my family came ho…
/r/MensRights16/06/11 02:10 AM
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Indeed, it was good to hear a couple of callers challenging the status quo. I would have called in myself if I wasn't right in the middle of a move with my phone jacks being serviced as the program was in progress. Thanks to you and any other MRAs who called in to bring our point of view into consideration!
/r/MensRights16/06/11 02:06 AM
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Thanks for the post. This is enlightening. I am relatively new to Reddit and do not read nor have any real reason to post on /r/Feminisms. I knew they deleted active /r/Mensrights redditors' posts frequently and are criticized here extensively for it, but I honestly had no idea the moderators there were so unashamedly segregationist.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 06:37 PM
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This falls under the old "men don't ask for directions" umbrella. Solving problems pro-actively and socially just isn't manly and always seems to draw comments and funny looks. As I myself have been advancing in age, I've been to see several doctors about heart arrhythmia/chest pain and (separately) mood imbalance/excessive oversleeping issues myself, and I've found that my family is not very supportive or helpful at all when it comes to me trying to take care of myself and discuss my health con…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 04:02 PM
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Have you ever had this conversation? http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/6079/male-feminist-the-day-i-learnt-the-meaning-of-anti-climax/
/r/MensRights09/06/11 01:04 AM
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i'm saying, this is not even an issue of sex/gender as much as it is politics and a way to throw a liberal out of office. I'm not disagreeing with you there. Sex scandals, however minor they might be, have been part of gotcha politics since at least the Kennedy administration. But politics don't exist in a vacuum. Politics are able to take advantage of completely consensual and noncriminal transgressions like Wiener's because the wider culture condones slutshaming. Both variables at at play at t…
/r/MensRights08/06/11 08:29 PM
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“When a father can be sentenced to months in jail for simply leaving a gallon of milk on his child’s doorstep, we have indeed reached the point of ‘hysteria’ about the issue of domestic violence,” ACFC executive director Michael McCormick commented. Ew? :\
/r/MensRights08/06/11 07:03 PM
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how is this ANY issue to feminism? Establishment feminists tell MRAs all the time that feminism is about equality, and that we should disband MRM and become feminists because they will look after us while MRM will just lead us into temptation and misogyny. If feminism is about equality, then feminists ought to be standing up for Wiener's right to sexual agency, and speaking out against the media's largely successful campaign to shame him for non-criminal behavior. This is a current issue for fem…
/r/MensRights08/06/11 06:52 PM
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Have been waiting for the right article to appear online to post to the subreddit regarding this event. The reaction is just too mindblowing between the way the media depicted crowds of women marching in public in their underwear a month ago, and one politician posting some photos of himself in his underwear on the internet. Dr. Drew was even on HLN Monday night saying Wiener must have a severe sex addiction and needs to obtain immediate treatment before he self destructs and tears his family do…
/r/MensRights08/06/11 03:05 PM
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I'm going to go ahead and go with the second one. I have been unfortunate to catch pieces of the Casey Anthony trial where her attorney is claiming child sexual abuse as an explanation for the wild social life she carried on while the daughter was missing, and I just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for the time being.
/r/MensRights07/06/11 07:39 PM
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I guess I'm trying to figure out a way to combine how I feel in sympathizing with an alleged survivor with maintaining objectivity and fairness in conversations outside the realm of providing support to survivors, it that makes sense. It's a challenging question that I believe we as a society are in desperate need of reconciling. Unfortunately huge segments of American society choose to advocate for female victims and slander or shame any men who point out the double standard. I think I speak fo…
/r/MensRights06/06/11 10:43 PM
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How would you term/not even term a survivor of sexual assault? I know the point is vague, but the point I'm trying to make here isn't that a given is valid or invalid in any specific circumstances. We're speaking in generalities, not specifics here, right? To my understanding, there are a few different categories of "people" (let's be clear here: women, under current social and legal circumstances) who press charges and receive treatment and counseling for rape: On one end of the spectrum are th…
/r/MensRights06/06/11 10:14 PM
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I use the word survivor because survivors of sexual assault sometimes find it more empowering than the word "victim," though I leave it up to the person to determine how they define themself. Empowering on a purely emotional level, in a vacuum so to speak, or because the choice of words garners more sympathetic and potentially enriching responses from the people around them, in the absence of any knowledge whatsoever about her assault? Food for thought from an MRM POV.
/r/MensRights06/06/11 08:44 PM
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1)avoiding victim-blaming, This is impossible in the current hyper-gendered state of American society. Turn on the Caylee Anthony murder trial for a few minutes: Her primary defense at this point is that her daddy (allegedly) forced her to perform sex acts on him when she was a little girl. As if that in anyway proves guilt or innocence in the slaying of her daughter! This is real life! This is the crazy manipulative reality that we men live in that pushes us towards MRM. Points two and three ar…
/r/MensRights06/06/11 07:50 PM
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As I understand it, astroturfing is a kind of 'negative campaigning.' It makes the accuser look bad, but not as bad as the one they're accusing. As defined by who, exactly? To whit: "Astroturfing is a form of advocacy often in support of a political or corporate agenda designed to give the appearance of a "grassroots" movement. The goal of such campaigns is to disguise the efforts of a political and/or commercial entity as an independent public reaction" -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfin…
/r/MensRights03/06/11 05:21 PM
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If women knew that in order to have fathers for their children, they needed to marry or make some other kind of legal arrangement with a willing guy, I think we'd see some better reproductive decisions being made. I like this idea, it has legs, if MRM can get just a little bit of traction in public opinion, I could see this actually happening. If marriage is going to be primarily a state-sanctioned legal arrangement in our society going forward anyway, why not make it part of the marriage licens…
/r/MensRights02/06/11 10:13 PM
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I wish a contract of this nature were legally binding. IANAL, but nonetheless I'm certain it is not.
/r/MensRights02/06/11 06:35 PM
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Comments thread on this story opened my eyes and made me physically ill. When did sexual violence against the male groin go from slapstick comedy fodder to righteous and awesome? Before someone else posts it, I am familiar with the Man, Woman & Myth video on the subject. Link. I guess I didn't realize how widely accepted it's become in the mainstream.
/r/MensRights02/06/11 12:08 PM
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Correlation isn't causation, but you already knew that. You have a whole lot more work to do if you intend to prove that the quote you reference seriously reflects the priorities and activism of NOW. Last time I checked, the only groups making any kind of effort to change misandrist social paradigms such as the California law that mandates child support payments from male statutory rape victims are our own fledgling little groups like Fathers & Families. Show me NOW's commitment to solving that …
/r/MensRights25/05/11 05:00 PM
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"I know you are, but what am I?!" Really? Aren't we a little old to be playing this game? byte-smasher, everyone sees the point your trying to make, but this comment is a non sequitur. It's great that Karen DeCrow held egalitarian views regarding conception, but that enthusiasm is obviously tempered by the fact that she no longer holds that role at NOW and all too obvious to those of us who follow MRA issues that her attitude is not widely embraced at the present time. In that context, what effo…
/r/MensRights25/05/11 03:58 PM
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And as usual, note the fingerpointing starting from user comment #4.1 attempting to lay blame on the child's father... No comment for the father? Why is it always the girl's responsibility? ­ Castrate the father...do what you want with the mother, but Holland is right. ­ That's not a fair comment, shame on you for not including the Father. The woman didn't clone herself. If the father raised this baby on his own, no doubt he'd be considered a hero. The woman, however, even if she raised the chil…
/r/MensRights24/05/11 05:19 PM
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Leykis is basically saying, "You burned that house down, sister. Yes, relationships and children are important to men. But you women have made the relationship environment so toxic, men are not even getting the relationship and children they desire (to say nothing of human dignity or respect). You women have removed every incentive for us men to be meaningfully involved with you. That's an understandable point of view for a man whose been burned by 21st century American family law, but if you li…
/r/MensRights24/05/11 05:00 PM
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She's got her points; in fact, I think it's more accurate to say she's got her little routine well talking-pointed. In that respect, I have to disagree with the characterization of this program as ripping Hymowitz a new one. He completely caved to her characterization of single life as being all about self pleasure; fed the stereotype by dwelling on strippers and sex; and didn't try to elevate the conversation above that level even once. If that's the livestyle you're most comfortable in, I gues…
/r/MensRights24/05/11 08:29 AM
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