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Dismantle the internet. Use it for economic utility only and ban the reddit, message boards, social media, etc. Harsh, and impossible, and it will never be done. But that will instantly solve your problem.
/r/MensRights09/08/19 02:32 PM
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What happened to fighting for the freedom of women and their expression? Modern feminism seems to often be gilded cages for women, with its leaders insisting that women fear what's out there, and to stay as members for their own safety and security. Also, don't let anyone tell you that this sub is only about complaining about feminism, and thereby implying that such an activity is non productive. Voicing an opinion that counters the current religious dogma is a productive act. However, don't let…
/r/MensRights16/02/19 09:32 PM
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Its my least favorite part of this sub.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 05:45 PM
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The bolder they get, the more we can point to and convince people that the mens rights movement is necessary.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 05:42 PM
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It's not worth the effort and just turns you into a petty hateful person like everyone else on twitter. It's better to just disconnect
/r/MensRights24/01/19 04:17 PM
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why gender the issue"? Why does this message need to be directed at men exclusively?
/r/MensRights15/01/19 04:33 PM
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Imagine you are black and see a commercial encouraging black people to “be the best black they can be” by calling out other black people when they are about to shoot somone, or rape them, or such. The commercial as a whole does celebrate some positive aspects of the black community, but overall the message is that it is up to black people to reduce the disproportionate rate of violence perpetrated by African Americans. This by itself is not a terrible message. I mean it is up to us to do what we…
/r/MensRights15/01/19 04:32 PM
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where did you get those numbers
/r/MensRights07/01/19 01:20 PM
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how is a callous comparable to the most sensitive part of the penis?
/r/MensRights24/12/18 05:26 AM
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I'm eager to hear any benefits you think exist for routine infant circumcision.
/r/MensRights24/12/18 05:25 AM
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Can you link to any top posts in this sub that demonstrate this hate for women?
/r/MensRights15/11/18 01:06 AM
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The concept of computer programming during that time was almost incomparable to modern programming. Think of a programmer as more of a secretary like job back then.
/r/MensRights15/11/18 12:56 AM
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Here's a source for teaching bias against boys, and how they grade boys less for the same work. https://seii.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/SEII-Discussion-Paper-2016.07-Terrier.pdf
/r/MensRights12/10/18 01:42 AM
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Doesn't sound like you're open to being wrong
/r/MensRights09/10/18 09:28 PM
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bot
/r/MensRights09/10/18 06:29 PM
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I respect the skepticism, and I may be misunderstanding you, but I don't think there's anything wrong with diversity. It should be one of many factors guiding a company. A true meritocracy is never possible, given biases. It's when companies start doggedly pursuing quotas that harm is done, and Atlassian is coming out saying just that.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 09:37 PM
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Why said I am?
/r/MensRights05/10/18 07:06 PM
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Two of the accusers have people coming out saying they have proof they are lying.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 02:32 PM
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I don't invest is doomed projects. You seem to be investing some time poo pooing this though. If you don't like it move on. We aren't waiting with baited breath for your opinion.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 12:42 PM
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Yet boys experience relationship violence at higher rates than girls
/r/MensRights03/10/18 04:17 PM
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This just got even more interesting
/r/MensRights03/10/18 06:58 AM
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/27/two-men-claim-responsibility-christine-blasey-ford/
/r/MensRights29/09/18 12:07 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Miller_Gearhart It's from her essay "The Future—If There Is One—Is Female,"
/r/MensRights28/09/18 09:25 PM
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Is it common for people to attach a memory to someone that didn't do it, since two people have come forward and said they did what she was describing, and Brett wasn't there?
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:24 PM
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seems like a pretty specific memory for someone who couldn't remember Time/date/location of party Who drove her to party Who was at party Who pushed her into room Who drove her from party Date/who paid for her polygraph Grandmother's funeral date?
/r/MensRights28/09/18 07:02 AM
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Me, I'm a liberal, I've dated a trans dude, I vote democrat for the most part
/r/MensRights28/09/18 05:44 AM
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If the right as a whole can be condemned by the occasional existence of racists in its midst, and due to the fact that they occasionally have members of shitty character, then feminism as a whole can be condemned likewise.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 09:56 PM
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Damn now I'm going to have to watch this, I can't believe she couldn't remember all of that
/r/MensRights27/09/18 09:54 PM
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He was never accused of rape by Ford. It was sexual assault
/r/MensRights27/09/18 09:47 PM
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There's a difference between the "dictionary" definition of toxic masculinity, which I don't really have a problem with, and the way it's actually used, which I do have a problem with. It had good intentions as a sociological concept, but it has failed miserably in implementation
/r/MensRights27/09/18 09:45 PM
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I'm not sure I know every single one of her contacts from that time, nor am I aware of the alumni of every elite boys school in the area. I would guess there are a lot of men from elite boys schools in Washington.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 09:18 PM
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My guess is they don't bother because there is nothing beyond testimony to be brought to this case
/r/MensRights27/09/18 08:54 PM
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I thought ford is accusing him of sexual assault, not rape. If you are going to back baseless accusations, at least get them right.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 08:52 PM
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I didn't, your point was just dumb so I responded appropriately
/r/MensRights27/09/18 08:50 PM
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If his name was in the notes, I certainly wouldn't say "Kavanaugh wasn't named in the therapists notes"
/r/MensRights27/09/18 08:10 PM
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Kavanaugh wasn't named in the therapists notes
/r/MensRights27/09/18 06:21 PM
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This is probably fake, tbh. This is too perfect a constellation of stupidity to be real .
/r/MensRights27/09/18 12:35 AM
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This is the first time I've ever heard someone say "No u" unironically
/r/MensRights26/09/18 12:57 AM
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I've literally always had that opinion? Do you know me?
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:08 AM
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A lie detector is like using a Ouija board.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 02:47 AM
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Breaks silence? She never stops talking tho
/r/MensRights16/09/18 07:43 PM
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There are times when someone you know, or someone around you will say things about men that is misandristic, hateful and problematic, and you could learn when it's the right time to push back against those things. Be a voice of reason against this kind of hatred, if possible. Make sure that you become well informed about the facts surrounding men's issues. Be able to hold your own if anyone argues against mens rights. There's not much a single person can do. But feminist hate against MRAs will b…
/r/MensRights15/09/18 02:52 PM
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I don't even know where to start with this essay. It's stupid on so many levels.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 01:40 AM
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depends on the way they are recommending. If its through shame and claims of patriarchy and oppression, then I'd say that's a bad way of going about it.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 01:34 AM
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The question he asked doesn't really call for bringing up circumcision, so idk what the point of talking about it is. Choose your battles.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 01:30 AM
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You need to find a community. Literally any community, so you can start having more positive relationships. The brain is a crazy complicated but also pretty simple thing. If you have enough interactions with abusers and shit humans, you will start to recall subconscious fears of these people with anyone and everyone you meet, which negatively impacts your ability to function and lead a healthy life. Try to get involved with a community, like a D&D group looking for an extra person on Craigslist …
/r/MensRights09/09/18 09:21 PM
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I'm glad you took the time to share. I've heard that telling your story is a form of healing, and that it gets a bit easier each time you tell it. Hopefully sharing with us not only helps you, but helps others that read it try a bit harder to help other victims and empathize more.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 09:03 PM
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Ignore this guy, he's the village idiot of this sub
/r/MensRights09/09/18 03:10 PM
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Do you have a single example of a country where rational debate coupled with a slow decline in the practice led to a point where the issue faced a break-out moment and overcame the natural taboo on the topic? That's easy. USA. Feminism. Feminism included protests, but those constituted like less than 3% of efforts. They are so successful because of rational debate from prominent leaders, appealing to points that can't be argued against like human rights, etc. At first they were a joke, then they…
/r/MensRights09/09/18 12:59 AM
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“Mr Salmond has been able to seize the initiative and reframe public discussion, presenting himself as a victim and attempting to influence the court of public opinion,” she said. How dare this man do things that we do every day!!!
/r/MensRights03/09/18 03:54 PM
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Not an attack on feminism. An attack on the practices and policies of feminists.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 01:28 PM
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Is that supposed to be a point?
/r/MensRights29/08/18 01:11 PM
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A therapist is only effective if you really believe it will be, and put your trust in them, and really listen and think about what they have to say, and put their recommendations into action. If you aren't 100% committed, it's a waste of money.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 10:16 PM
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This same thought came to mind. Thanks
/r/MensRights27/08/18 04:17 PM
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Because as society we have agreed that an adult having sex with a child is wrong, but a government needs hard, legally sound, and clear laws. So to address the problem of statutory rape, the state needs to draw the line somewhere. Through deliberation and much thought, many states have drawn the line at 18. Yes, the difference between 17 and 18 is minimal, but again the law needs to be sound as a rock, and although there will always be cases that don't seem so clear cut, and may raise some eyebr…
/r/MensRights23/08/18 02:12 PM
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I'd rather get raped than eviscerated with a bayonet
/r/MensRights23/08/18 01:25 PM
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Just in case the tweet gets deleted. https://imgur.com/a/Hynkgnd
/r/MensRights20/08/18 05:14 PM
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In response to evidence of Asia Argento paying hush money to her victim, on of the most militant leaders of the #metoo movement has urged for careful consideration, patience, and gentleness towards her friend. Immediately, the public has called out her hypocrisy, and the double standard is laid bare. For those of us who have objected with the methods of the movement, and the callous disregard it treats our legal rights of due process and the mantra of "innocent before guilty", this is a huge win…
/r/MensRights20/08/18 05:10 PM
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"i've never met one that I think I would vibe with" might be enough. You're right though
/r/MensRights16/08/18 02:04 AM
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I honestly wish he would say "yeah! I'll play with a female streamer, as soon as I meet one that I like!" That way no one can cry sexism
/r/MensRights16/08/18 01:57 AM
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how is that at all similar to "top female streamers support this"
/r/MensRights16/08/18 01:56 AM
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do you think your career will suffer because of this? Or do you not need to brush shoulders with people to move up
/r/MensRights15/08/18 11:14 PM
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Just revisiting to read these comments from this mwobuddy guy and I'm astounded at how much of an idiot he is
/r/MensRights13/08/18 07:52 PM
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Hard rules with no grey area is how you get 15 year olds who have to register as a sex offender for sharing nudes with their 15 y.o. girlfriend. Like it or not, it IS part of our justice system and it IS necessary.
/r/MensRights09/08/18 06:13 PM
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Because not every case is cut and dry like that. Obviously you can't use mens rea for statutory rape, because a reasonable person would be able to tell if someone is underage. We need 'grey areas' like this baked into the justice system because life is full of grey areas, and we need judges and the justice system to be able to use their prudent judgement.
/r/MensRights09/08/18 12:37 PM
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White women in cities are actually earning more than men for the same job https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/apr/09/genevieve-wood/what-pay-gap-young-women-out-earn-men-cities-gop-p/
/r/MensRights08/08/18 01:13 PM
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This is great, hopefully it gets some traction to oust her racist ass. That being said, it's sad that the voices of many people resistant to her racism weren't enough, and that it may have to be a POC speaking out for anyone in power to bother listening.
/r/MensRights06/08/18 07:32 PM
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And men were lowered with dynamite strapped to them during the construction of the transatlantic railroad because it was too much work to lift them back up. I'd take rape over that.
/r/MensRights31/07/18 06:40 PM
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clearly you aren't
/r/MensRights30/07/18 04:33 AM
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I use it as a source of information and perspective that differs from more mainstream sources. And as a way to learn about any causes that help men that I can donate to. At the end of the day its a community, and many people use it to vent frustrations. Your depiction of this community is actually almost identical to the way feminism was portrayed in its early days. So I take hope in your insult, because it tells me we are on the right path.
/r/MensRights29/07/18 11:17 PM
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most that do, do a better job
/r/MensRights29/07/18 09:39 PM
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Then why did you say "marriage is great", which implies it's great for everyone
/r/MensRights28/07/18 05:22 PM
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Is there a publication this study is published under, or is it just this random guy's website? I can't find a source.
/r/MensRights25/07/18 03:51 PM
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Why is your go to argument the Titanic? If your resting your argument on an event that happened over 100 years ago its not a sound argument
/r/MensRights25/07/18 03:50 PM
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its a good mentality. Don't break yourself to fit the expectations of someone who will ultimately disappoint you in the end.
/r/MensRights25/07/18 03:46 PM
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In a system that rewards identity over merit, a rational actor would change to maximize their advantage
/r/MensRights25/07/18 03:42 PM
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From the article "Though some have tried, she can’t—as the facts are laid out in Carreyrou’s book—be explained away as a victim of her deputy, sometime boyfriend and codefendant Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani. She wasn’t caving in to patriarchy." They say she isn't a victim. However, it's funny that this rambling essay tries so hard to "understand why she did what she did", and how she did it. She employed the typical weapon of manipulation, she was an idiot, a bad public speaker, and I don't doubt for …
/r/MensRights23/07/18 08:51 AM
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There's a place for trans people in mens rights. Whether you believe in respecting them or not.
/r/MensRights20/07/18 03:10 AM
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This is so unreasonable that it doesn't matter if the poster believes this. It is so fringe that it is essentially a sock puppet.
/r/MensRights19/07/18 09:40 PM
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He has a go fund me! Please consider donating to help this guy out :)
/r/MensRights17/07/18 04:01 PM
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but that's transphobic
/r/MensRights16/07/18 01:13 PM
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lmao this is great
/r/MensRights04/07/18 06:45 AM
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https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/cm2012.pdf#page=66 See my breakdown above
/r/MensRights02/07/18 04:49 PM
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https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/cm2012.pdf#page=66 Looks like in 2012 there were 1315 deaths of children under the age of 5 in the US due to maltreatment/abuse. Of those deaths, a mother acting alone was the most likely, at 27 percent. A father acting alone was least likely, at 17 percent. Parents acting together made up 21 percent. So the real number looks like 27 percent of 1351, or 342. The meme limits the scope to 1-12 m.o., which is a strange age range I couldn't find any gov…
/r/MensRights02/07/18 04:49 PM
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well in this case they are just talking about literal gender stereotypes, so I think it's fine
/r/MensRights01/07/18 05:02 AM
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Gender stereotpyes is not feminist nomenclature
/r/MensRights01/07/18 04:26 AM
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I'm okay with this. Our mens team sucks, and the womens team is good. The only response i've seen to this is "well the mens team could beat the womens team" and to that I say no shit. NO one is saying they couldn't. We aren't talking about releative to all soccer teams of all genders. We are talking about the men's team's ability to compete with other teams.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 12:48 AM
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i think the law has considerations in place for stuff like that. A judge isn't an idiot, and can make inferences. The focus is on the damage that occurs to the guy, and so if he can demonstrate that the damage came as a direct result of her statement, it doesn't matter if she said his name or not.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 02:21 PM
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better yet, enter in the names of women and claim they raped you. maybe even women in prominent positions.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 08:59 PM
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Ill support any charity for domestic violence as soon as they prove themselves without bias against men
/r/MensRights13/06/18 02:54 PM
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that's insane. They should just use their male privilege and get a better life!
/r/MensRights09/06/18 06:24 PM
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A number of 'really unpleasant people' regularly came to see her at Christ Church, including one man who wore a gold chain around his neck and a dark hoodie. 'She was often seen in his company,' said another friend. 'He was a very scary and intimidating individual. He had convictions for drugs and making threats.' My god the pearl clutching in this quote is palpable
/r/MensRights08/06/18 03:15 PM
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Yeah this is stupid
/r/MensRights07/06/18 06:36 PM
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is that even legal? to divy up vacation based on department?? So potentially one person could get all of it?
/r/MensRights07/06/18 06:09 PM
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I fit in the category of "looking for work" but I don't know how I would be counted in this statistic. Is it people who file for unemployment?
/r/MensRights06/06/18 05:01 PM
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Man I wish I could afford this
/r/MensRights05/06/18 10:37 PM
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yawn. This doesn't really fit in this sub
/r/MensRights05/06/18 05:43 AM
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Yeah this person's post history looks like a bot, but I'm not sure what their motivation would be for posting this...
/r/MensRights28/05/18 09:21 PM
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Forgive the length. Hopefully this is helpful. I can't distill my current position down to one moment. It was definitely a series of reflections, books, and experiences that led me to this 'movement'. It's pretty hard to describe how I got here without writing paragraphs, but I'd say seeing the rising hatred pointed towards my gender (m) made me think more critically about the modern feminist movement, and look into more examples of double standards, rising inequalities suffered by men, and inju…
/r/MensRights28/05/18 09:15 PM
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Bullshit she did not hit him
/r/MensRights28/05/18 05:54 PM
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I don't understand these women that celebrate the fall of men. Do you really think the world will still be standing? If history teaches me anything, it's that men who are pushed down try to take everyone around down with them. The fall of men is the fall of the west. Congrats! You won, now we are all fucked.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 07:53 AM
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Absolutely! Money speaks, people should for sure let these mags die
/r/MensRights25/05/18 11:00 PM
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Did anyone else in the thread challenge her misconception? No, because everyone else has tact You still haven't explained how keeping your mouth shut is dishonesty. You just explained how it is your moral duty to challenge her assumptions.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 11:24 PM
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Why do you assume that if you weren't here to guide her towards truth, she would remain in ignorance? Why is this time the only time to tell her something you hold to be true? People are more likely to be receptive towards an idea if they discover it on their own. If she was given a welcoming answer for her post, she might subscribe to the subreddit. If she reads some of the posts here, she may start to think critically about certain ideas, some of which may include the ideas you are trying to c…
/r/MensRights21/05/18 11:08 PM
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How is keeping your mouth shut when it's inappropriate to argue "dishonest"?
/r/MensRights21/05/18 10:36 PM
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because the way you frame a message is as important as the message itself. Its possible that forcing a point at the wrong time could turn OP away. Unlikely, but possible. For example, one of the core complaints most people have about left leaning radicals is their uncompromising mentality. In a democracy, the goal isn't to propagate a message (brute force propaganda)—it's to change minds. If you want to change minds, be tactful in the way you present your opinion.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 10:07 PM
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Sorry for some of the responses here. People should be thanking you for even considering the other "side" of the argument of identity politics in relation to gender, not start arguing that you cede even further ground. Thanks for sharing your story here, and I'm glad that there are resources out there that challenge the main narrative.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 09:56 PM
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This was an olive branch extended. Try to celebrate that someone changed their mind, and not ask them bluntly what issues women face, and thereby imply that women face less hardship than men. You may not have intended for that implication, but that's how it comes across.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 09:49 PM
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I'm with you, terrorist is strong fucking language
/r/MensRights20/05/18 03:41 AM
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/u/rMensRights /u/MRmod3 /u/AnnArchist /u/AloysiusC /u/typhonblue Is there any way we can do something like this - a list of core values that goes beyond just bashing feminism, and focusing on ways to improve the state of men? What would need to happen to get this going? Should someone start a thread asking the community to put forward suggestions on these core values?
/r/MensRights15/05/18 10:57 PM
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There are some sentences that give a pretty good window into the character of some people. Like the sentence "I voted for Trump". The fact that she could be so callous and blasé about something so serious is pretty terrible. And most people in this tread are saying only that. That she is a terrible person.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 10:44 PM
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Who cares if it offends her? Shes a piece of shit, she should be offended.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 10:41 PM
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Why is it that when men kill other men, that makes it less of an issue that we should focus on? Why are female victims of men more deserving of attention than male victims of men, especially since they are more numerous?
/r/MensRights15/05/18 04:26 PM
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And the oscar for worst spokesman for men's rights goes to...
/r/MensRights10/05/18 03:03 PM
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Do you really actually think that?
/r/MensRights07/05/18 06:53 AM
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Well your point is simple, but you aren't doing a good job rationalizing it
/r/MensRights07/05/18 03:16 AM
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You're purposely avoiding the argument. It doesn't matter whether or not you can choose to join the group. That's not the point. The point is that generalizations across any group of people based off the behavior of individuals of that group is ignorant. Just because some feminists are hateful towards men, doesn't mean we should treat every self identifying feminist as hateful. There are some feminists that are also supportive of mens rights. There are some that are not. "Feminism" is not a mono…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 07:24 PM
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If you allow that mentality, then you allow feminists to call men violent animals that need to be controlled just because we are statistically more likely to commit crime. It's wrong by definition, because it's a generalization. We are in a sub focused on the ideological movement of mens rights. By we I mean MRA
/r/MensRights06/05/18 03:18 AM
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Separate the actions of the individual from the group. The movement is not monolithic, so it's unfair and inaccurate to generalize across everyone. Call out individual actions that are misandristic, because that is defensible. If you call the entire movement misandristic you are falling prey to the same faults we point out in feminists, and you alienate potential allies.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 03:13 AM
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fair enough. I don't agree that that's a very good argument for making it unisex, but I see where you're coming from.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 01:57 AM
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Just to counter all the positive messages here, I lost my boyfriend of 1 year after he "found out" I was an MRA. Typical arguments ensued, he claimed I was a misogynist, wouldn't really listen to reason, etc. People may tell me I'm better off without him, but that doesn't make it any easier. It's a contentious topic right now, especially with feminism painting themselves as at-odds with mens rights. What i'm saying is, be prepared to lose some friends, and think hard about if it's worth it. It m…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 01:57 AM
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Looks like they were held accountable? I'm not sure what you want from this situation. Like yeah they were jerks but the fact that women can be jerks doesn't really have anything to do with the mens rights movement.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 01:12 AM
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Do you see the merit behind the argument that if there are women only organizations opening up to help women, then that demonstrates that there is value in organizations that limit their members to one gender, and therefore opening up a male only organization to the opposite gender deprives boys of said benefit?
/r/MensRights06/05/18 12:59 AM
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Thanks for sharing this. I feel like some perspective is often needed on both sides. Not all MRAs are misogynists, and not all feminists are misandrists. There are quite a few people out there that share common goals with us. And if we don't welcome them in, we will never get the numbers necessary for public support.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 12:55 AM
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None of that disproved my points. Many of the arguments that feminists created can be used by us. And their effects are increased by the fact that mainstream public have already accepted them to be true, so all we have to say is - this was a problem for women, and we made efforts to fix it. Now it is a problem for men - why is it less necessary to fix it? Which forces them to either deny the validity of the argument they used in the past, or expose themselves as hypocrites, and lose public suppo…
/r/MensRights05/05/18 06:04 PM
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http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html https://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-earn-more-men-same-age-study-finds Interestingly, I needed to use bing to find this article, as google didn't give me anything no matter what keywords I used. That was enough to change my default search engine to duck duck go
/r/MensRights05/05/18 05:17 PM
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Completely agreed. Regarding specifically the weekly men's center donation idea, is that a feasible thing for this sub?
/r/MensRights05/05/18 05:14 PM
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You're right. Maybe we could highlight centers for men around the nation each week, and sticky a place to donate to them? /u/MRmod3 /u/AnnArchist /u/AloysiusC Any thoughts on this? If a list was provided to you to reduce your work load, is this something that could be done?
/r/MensRights05/05/18 04:48 PM
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We are nowhere near ready enough for a march. There's a lot of work to do before a march is well received, actually has an effect, and gains enough supporters to be noticed. Don't put the cart before the horse. First thing is getting people to realize that supporting men's rights is not the same thing as opposing women's rights. That the two movements can work in harmony. That everything pushed forward by feminism isn't necessarily good for society by virtue of it being pushed by feminism. This …
/r/MensRights05/05/18 04:40 PM
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Rescind consent the day after
/r/MensRights03/05/18 06:19 PM
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I did. They used the myth as a starting point for ignorant generalizations about the male gender. It's just another piece of the moral panic on men going on right now.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 04:21 PM
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Try to keep the language objective and level headed. Concede some points to the mayor, so it doesn't seem like you are attacking them and give them a reason to ignore you. "While a leading cause of homelessness for women is DV, and many of these women are surely deserving of support, we must not let these empathetic emotions lead to undue influence in our policy work. The fact is that a vast majority of men are homeless. The same reasoning behind focusing on female victims of rape (because they …
/r/MensRights03/05/18 04:17 PM
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That's operating on the assumption that "any news is good news" which is thoroughly rejected by marketing experts. The ideal is to push out touch points (articles, events, etc) where people can start to associate positive emotion with the brand. If the aim of each individual piece was to garner attention, with no regard to the future engagement of individuals with the brand or no regard to cultivating positive associations with the brand, then the NYT would turn into a tabloid. It is an Op Ed pu…
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:55 PM
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"I'm pro male, I just want to help men by suggesting that males are inherently dangerous, and by doing so fail to separate the actions of individuals within a group from the qualities of the group itself. Also by bashing aspects of masculinity, instead of the moral flaws of the individual men that harm women, I insinuate that femininity is inherently superior!" "But seriously, I'm SO pro male"
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:48 PM
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"letting black people embrace black culture will lead to them killing you in your sleep and raping your wife" It's a moral panic, and everyone is grasping at straws to find an 'objective' basis for their hateful bias against men. I never would have thought the NYT would elevate this Freudian nonsense.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:43 PM
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There is literally no research that backs up the theories of the Oedipus complex.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:38 PM
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By releasing this article they are agreeing that the conversation on gender should be pushed in a certain direction. Every publication needs to maintain a bit of sanity, and this is pushing the conversation into the territory of "insane"
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:34 PM
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doesn't mean they don't have a responsibility to make sure only sane things get published. Plus, it may be marketing but it is bad marketing, because it alienates half of their reader base.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:32 PM
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Okay? Just because they are trying to get clicks doesn't mean they are not responsible for the messages they are putting out into the public.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:31 PM
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Would afford the same tolerance to an opinion piece that says "If you let black people embrace black culture, they will murder you in your sleep and rape your wife"? The editor still chooses what messages get to be disseminated. It's not like NYT op ed is similar to reddit.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:30 PM
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Men have always been emotional. The best poets and writers of emotional novels and other works of literature were all made by men. Sounds like the internet is the problem, and not masculinity.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:21 PM
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what needs to happen is more men need to start using these rules to their advantage. Strike first.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:01 PM
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This is fucking ridiculous
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:01 PM
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Exactly. How are these "educational workshops" any different than gay conversion therapy?
/r/MensRights01/05/18 03:20 PM
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Do you remember what they said?
/r/MensRights29/04/18 05:47 PM
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As usual, they miss the mark in an effort to adhere to the dogma of "masculinity socialization". I feel like a lot of these pieces pick up on the worsening state of men in America, use statistics to give themselves an air of objectivity, then pivot and start listing bullshit social science theories as explanations. It's the fault of masculinity, not the modern world!!! Forget that men have been men for millennia, and that we have never been trying to feminize men and shame masculinity until now.…
/r/MensRights28/04/18 03:13 PM
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This is amazing
/r/MensRights28/04/18 02:37 PM
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Would it be accurate to title an article "how feminist extremism led to the youtube shooting"?
/r/MensRights27/04/18 06:57 PM
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She's a product of a society that condones the hatred of men
/r/MensRights27/04/18 05:16 AM
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why would someone lie about something they were filmed doing?? I guess that's why she's in porn.. she's an idiot.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 05:11 AM
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I'm just glad that people are aware of us enough to be salty and make a sticker. That's better than being so insignificant that people don't even bother
/r/MensRights26/04/18 09:57 PM
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Dude fuck that. Stop trying to gaslight and suggest that women weren't oppressed. White women were never at the level of POC but they were prevented from accessing certain jobs, they were taught differently in school, they were assaulted with impunity, marital rape wasn't a punishable offense until 1993, etc. Let's not discredit this movement by being ignorant. There's a lot we can learn from feminism, language we can use in arguments for men that was created in arguments for women. I believe th…
/r/MensRights26/04/18 01:49 PM
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I get the intent behind this, but lets try to not surround ourselves with bigotry and hatred. We get enough of it.
/r/MensRights23/04/18 03:57 PM
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I agree, some of the comments in this thread get it right, like fengpi, but the fact is that the logic used by fengpi is lost on some commenters, who state ignorant comments like the one's you've seen. We need to take efforts to not succumb to the same flaws that plague feminism, and shun the hateful ignorant people that occupy every movement.
/r/MensRights23/04/18 04:10 AM
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There's a theory about autism called the "extreme male brain" theory - basically, the biology of men make our brains better at "systemizing", i.e. the ability to analyze, understand, and construct systems. Female brains are supposedly better at empathizing, or the ability to understand unspoken social rules, put yourself in the shoes of others, etc. This explains why men are more likely to major in things like computer science, engineering, math, etc. and women are more likely to major in medica…
/r/MensRights23/04/18 12:11 AM
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ditto
/r/MensRights22/04/18 09:34 PM
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Women are the only ones getting journalism degrees anymore
/r/MensRights22/04/18 09:28 PM
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This is great news!! Thanks for sharing
/r/MensRights22/04/18 03:38 AM
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I've stated elsewhere in this thread. I'll quote it. Well the difference is that gender dysphoria comes and goes, but being trans never goes away. A mental illness, as defined by the DSM-5, is a mental state that disrupts your everyday life, gets in they way of functioning independently, prevents you from thriving as an individual. Gender dysphoria fits this because it prevents trans people from living normally. A person that has transitioned with hormones and has much less dysphoria can operate…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 08:15 PM
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I think what's more important is the rejection of any presence of hatred or ignorance within this community. The way we act as a community greatly affects the sympathy the public has for our opinions and points. We cannot garner sympathy from the public without demonstrating tolerance and acceptance. We cannot enact the necessary policy changes without the sympathy of the public. Right now the greatest tool female supremacists have against us is the way we act. If we can act in a way that is dif…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 08:06 PM
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1 percent. Less than 1 percent of American men are incarcerated, yet we care about the unfair justice system that imprisons men for longer sentences than women, right?
/r/MensRights19/04/18 07:58 PM
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Dysphoria is a general dissatisfaction or unease about your current situation. If you are dysphoric about your leg, and you amputate it, and that unease goes away, you are no longer dysphoric. You still have whatever that condition is called, but the day to day experience of your life is no longer difficult in regards to the status of your limbs. The DSM-5 defines mental illness as a mental state that interferes with your day to day life, that disrupts your ability to care for yourself, that get…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 07:55 PM
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They are still of the same body, same DNA, same physiology(early psychological development also doesn't change) but they have simply managed to convince themselves otherwise. That is another delusion that just feeds into the dysphoria Dysphoria is a general unease or dissatisfaction. If they have deluded themselves into thinking they are no longer the gender they were assigned at birth, they are no longer dissatisfied, and therefore no longer dysphoric, and therefore no longer mentally ill, per …
/r/MensRights19/04/18 07:45 PM
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With what tools do we fight in the mens rights movement? Why do we care about mens issues? We point to things like an unfair justice system, the suffering of men, the unjust disparity of accomplishment in the educational system, the callous disregard of male victims. All of these arguments rely on one thing - empathy for suffering. If we disregard the suffering of others, if we don't acknowledge that, actually, trans people can be victims, that women can be victims, and that all of us are suffer…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 06:48 PM
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I disagree. There's a clear difference between being trans and being dysphoric. Someone who successfully transitions into the gender that they identify as is no longer dysphoric, but you would still call them trans, no? The discussion of gender doesn't have to be irrelevant. I said this elsewhere - Can you imagine a mens rights movement that was visibly dedicated to the integration of trans people, and fully supportive of them? It would simultaneously smash all of the public's preconceptions abo…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 06:15 PM
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There is power outside just numbers. Their power lies in the sway they have over the population, and their control over the national dialogue. The mere mention of something being transphobic can bend entire corporations. Can you imagine a mens rights movement that was visibly dedicated to the integration of trans people, and fully supportive of them? It would simultaneously smash all of the public's preconceptions about the mens rights movement, and discredit the feminists that have spent so muc…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 05:57 PM
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Well what I'm saying is that those "men in dresses" have the power to dictate the national conversation, and the longer you refuse to acknowledge them as the gender (not the sex) that they identify as, the longer the mens rights movement will be branded as hateful and transphobic, and the longer it will take for the issues we care about to be integrated into the national conversation. It's in your best interest to take a long look at that monkey in clothing and rethink your position.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 05:42 PM
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Some of the comments, like that, were fine. Other comments said that trans women are men, and were making rape jokes, and said "looks like mental illness is profitable" which are hateful, and which were all upvoted fairly highly
/r/MensRights19/04/18 05:38 PM
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The thread i linked to says otherwise. There was a lot of hateful stuff in there, and a lot of it was upvoted. Just because trans people make up a small percentage of the total population killed, doesn't make the comment not hateful. People are killed for being trans. Being trans isn't profitable.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 05:32 PM
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Well the difference is that gender dysphoria comes and goes, but being trans never goes away. A mental illness, as defined by the DSM-5, is a mental state that disrupts your everyday life, gets in they way of functioning independently, prevents you from thriving as an individual. Gender dysphoria fits this because it prevents trans people from living normally. A person that has transitioned with hormones and has much less dysphoria can operate normally - studies have shown that trans people bene…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 05:30 PM
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Society gives schizophrenics medication to stop the voices, and society gives trans people hormones to stop the gender dysphoria. And it does help - hormones have been proven to relieve the negative effects of gender dysphoria. Who cares if they do things to their body to feel better? People pierce themselves, tattoo themselves, etc. Think of hormones as just another version of this - a society that gives people the liberty to do what they want to themselves is a society that allows trans people…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 05:19 PM
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And I'm saying, that as long as you think that you harm the men's rights movement. Trans men and women hold power in this world whether you like it or not, and any movement that has a large amount of people who disagree with the maleness of trans men will never be allowed into the mainstream discussion. And as a result of this, men will suffer.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 05:17 PM
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Even if being trans was a mental illness (it's not, gender dysphoria is a mental illness not being trans), mental illnesses don't go away when you find their "source". People with schizophrenia don't get better by curing their schizophrenia, they learn to live with their illness. So even IF being trans was an illness, then the answer would be learning to live with your illness, which would include making efforts to be the gender you identify as right? At the end of the day, why does it matter if…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 05:04 PM
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I'm making this post because there was a thread on our front page that elicited a lot of hateful comments about trans people. I get that a fight for men's rights is a fight for trans men's rights, but if we keep upvoting hateful comments about trans people, especially trans men, we are hurting our own. We need to be conscious of the fact that every community has people who's opinions can be harmful, and ignoring those people doesn't help us or our cause.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 04:50 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8db6dg/when_men_are_raped_in_prison_people_make_jokes/dxm6azk/ This is one comment, but that whole thread is full of them. Being trans isn't a mental disorder. Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder. And gender dysphoria can go away if treated. Also, referring to being trans as profitable is pretty terrible considering how many trans people are killed every year
/r/MensRights19/04/18 04:44 PM
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Please consider giving this a read and thinking about it, instead of downvoting and moving on.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 04:36 PM
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do you know the difference between sex and gender?
/r/MensRights19/04/18 12:49 PM
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If this community is going to get any support, it needs to realize that trans people aren't ever going to go away. The sooner we can accept that, and accept them, the sooner we can start working TOGETHER to right wrongs. Man or woman, our lot is the same.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 12:45 PM
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