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I don't see how that's realistically fixable without being more discriminatory. Do we discriminate against women who haven't (or cannot) have children by hiring women with less experience but who had children and therefore get some kind of "years at home with children counts as work experience" factor applied? The best we can do is to hire people based on their suitability for the job isn't it? What society should be doing is stopping discrimination that results in people less suitable for the j…
/r/MensRights17/10/12 07:52 PM
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Nope. That's a pretty well established causation, backed up by multiple different lines of evidence from different fields. Rape and circumcision have a much much more plausible link, and it's not a causal one, the evidence for a direct causal link of circumcision leading to increased propensity to rape is non-existent. The idea itself is possible, but pretty implausible, especially considering a better explanation exists and is much more widely accepted.
/r/MensRights04/05/10 02:53 AM
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Circumcision is a barbaric, stupid religious practice, yes. Some people in the medical community do have a vested interest in continuing the practice. That's true, but not relevant to the discussion of a "possible link between circumcision and rape". There is actual evidence that both rape and circumcision are influenced by cultural norms regarding religion. Circumcision is obvious, it's a religious practice. There are stats that suggest that cultures with a more liberal view of sex and gender a…
/r/MensRights03/05/10 11:05 PM
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That's a fairly generous interpretation of the tone of the comment. A reasonable interpretation of the data, though. But while I agree with the concept of giving a speaker/writer the benefit of the doubt when things are ambiguous, this was pretty obviously arguing causation.
/r/MensRights02/05/10 10:07 AM
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Bullshit, he was strongly implying causation, he just didn't come out and say it, and it's intellectually dishonest and scientifically ridiculous. There is this: Are people in 2X willing to discuss the possible link between circumcision and rape? How many readers of 2X circumcised their own sons? and there are the statistics: Why compare rates of circumcision and rape/divorce 25 years apart? Cultural norms would affect both at the same time, but a causal relationship theory would have you lookin…
/r/MensRights02/05/10 07:44 AM
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Yes, that would actually also be what i said: it's much more likely they are both a product of our religiously motivated attitudes about sex and gender Middle paragraph, in between the parentheses. You are agreeing with my point, that there is a possible correlation. Kanuk is implying there is a causal relationship, that circumcision increases propensity to rape. Why else would you compare the stats of circumcisions to rape or divorce stats 25 years later? The point we are agreeing on here is fu…
/r/MensRights02/05/10 07:37 AM
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Are people in 2X willing to discuss the possible link between circumcision and rape? How many readers of 2X circumcised their own sons? So there's that quote if the whole bunch of bullet points at the beginning didn't get the idea across. Kanuk is arguing his point and stating it pretty clearly, with only a few weasel words. No reasonable person would take the position that we shouldn't look into the root causes of rape and rapists. I certainly fucking hope it's someone who thinks more criticall…
/r/MensRights02/05/10 07:28 AM
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Yeah, that occurred to me as well, that's much more believable than his claim. However the only reasonable common causal factors are at a pretty high level of abstraction, they are all large scale societal attitudes that are pretty far removed from real life. Things like attitudes towards young males and tradition, religion, wish for conformity. Nothing very specific. Pretty much everything is related to those big parts of our culture in some way or another.
/r/MensRights02/05/10 07:24 AM
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I agree with the premise that we need to look harder into motivations and external factors involved in suicide and all crime, both to prevent it and to improve everyone's lives. I'm with you there ... but "possible link between circumcision and rape"? Are you fucking kidding me, you don't get to say "I know that correlation is not causation, but" and then pretend it is. There might be a relationship there. It's possible (seems very improbable to me, it's much more likely they are both a product …
/r/MensRights01/05/10 10:08 PM
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Are we now talking about the legality of this or whether it's reasonable to decide that we don't want this kind of thing posted to reddit? If we are now debating if this kind of material should be legal or not then that's a separate argument, and I personally don't feel that it should be illegal for various reasons. My issue with your statements was that asking people not to submit this to reddit is not censorship, precisely because censorship is "the bite of legal authority" and reddit has no l…
/r/MensRights24/03/10 01:04 AM
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I think there is good evidence these days that pornography in a culture actually reduces the amount of sexual crime, and I don't immediately see a reason it would be different for those with more deviant sexual tastes either. But my opinion on the legal status of sexual material involving children in which no children were involved, never mind actually exploited is a little unrelated. Your points are good arguments in the debate of whether reddit or a subreddit want to accept this kind of materi…
/r/MensRights23/03/10 11:30 PM
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Yes. That's what I was saying. But you seem to have a problem with this speech falling with the wind of opinion. It is not surviving in the public arena, and you start calling censorship, but that's not what that word means.
/r/MensRights23/03/10 11:17 PM

This is ridiculous. Free Speech is concerned with government (or other ruling authority) censorship. "A request to all" on reddit is not censorship, it's free speech itself, maybe it will start a debate. It's how a free society decides on its own that this kind of skeevy shit is unacceptable. The reason some of us fight against government censorship is because we feel that the kind of craziness or racism or stupidity that people want stopped can be stopped exactly how kloo2yoo is trying to do it…
/r/MensRights23/03/10 08:32 PM
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That this was submitted to MensRights instead of WTF or Funny makes me worried. Unless it's to be ironic. And i mean that in the Alanis Morrisette way, of course, not the actual meaning of ironic.
/r/MensRights30/06/09 09:02 AM
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