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frozenGrizzly/r/seduction17/06/15 03:13 AM
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Yes, if she's an uninteresting person that is willing to trade sex and companionship for money, regardless of whether or not we connect, then why bother? Your statement represents scarcity mentality, the unwillingness to turn down a woman. But we know better, we know there's an abundance of quality women out there, so we're not afraid to turn down a woman if she isn't what we're looking for. Abundance mentality = Never settling. Besides, I hate big, obviously fake tits.
/r/seduction29/07/15 11:42 PM
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Being creepy has nothing to do with being attractive or not. That's a very superficial perspective. Being attractive will probably make them overlook some creepy behavior longer than they would otherwise, but being unattractive =/= creepy. Being creepy is doing things that make her uncomfortable. That's it. What would make her uncomfortable? Pushing past the point where she has given you a sign that she is not ok with what you're doing. You can get away with a lot of things, and push a lot of no…
/r/seduction25/07/15 08:40 PM
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I'd be careful with the shit tests. Problem is, when you first learn about them, you start to see everything as a shit test. Your social interactions become you trying to fend off all these "attacks" on your value. And chances are, they're not shit tests at all. Chances are the girl is just as nervous as you, and is just saying words, same as you. "Where do you work?" might not have been a test. It might have been she was just running out of things to say, and blurted out whatever came to her he…
/r/seduction14/07/15 10:34 PM
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I don't have much to add, that was a good read. Exactly what I aim to accomplish, but the bars around here suck. I live in the sticks so there's only maybe two, and there's not a lot of college age girls. Not to mention that I still do live with my parents... But a really good book to read for what you're aiming to accomplish would be Rapid Escalation by Liam McRae. His philosophy on game is even more open-minded and more practical than Mark Manson's. When you buy the book it includes access to …
/r/seduction14/07/15 05:24 AM
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Typically, nice people aren't as nice as they seem. That's why it's not a personality and perception that is desirable.
/r/seduction13/07/15 02:50 AM
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You should read Rapid Escalation by Liam McRae. The whole book is about casual sex. Pretty much exclusively in the daytime, sometimes within a half hour/hour of meeting the girl. If you don't wanna buy the book, about 75% of the book's content can be found on his blog, just google his name.
/r/seduction12/07/15 05:07 PM
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However many you want to do them in. This isn't an exercise program, they're just some ideas.
/r/seduction11/07/15 02:24 PM
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The eye contact one is a good start, adding a smile when people hold your gaze is the next step. Going from that to approaching and having conversations is next. But if you want to go further, I got some. (coutesy of Liam McRae from TNL) Each of these challenges you do with 25 different girls (or guys...but it might get weird) Shake someone's hand and hold it for far too long, while maintaining eye contact. See if you can handle the pressure Put your hand on a girl's lower back and leave it ther…
/r/seduction09/07/15 07:09 PM
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This. But I would like to add that for some of us with NO experience starting out, reading helps bring us up to speed a bit, allowing us to jump past many of the trial and error we would otherwise have to learn the hard way, if we ever learn it at all. For instance, I had a very negatively warped view towards women before I came here. Due to the people around me and my own failures with women. Ingesting the pickup philosophy has really helped speed up my progress and have a new perspective on my…
/r/seduction08/07/15 01:20 AM
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Good man
/r/seduction26/06/15 02:59 AM
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Could've fingered her and had her give you a bj or something instead.
/r/seduction25/06/15 08:57 PM
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I agree. Asking for their number before you even know if YOU want to know THEM doesn't make you seem less invested, it makes you seem more invested. In their looks, or the person you think they might be by just looking at them. If you're not invested at all, then you talk to them and get to know them to see if they're someone worth getting to know, to see if they're worth your time. To OP: Props for trying something new, but it doesn't really surprise me that you got some bad interactions from t…
/r/seduction18/06/15 01:11 AM
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Makes sense man, thanks
/r/seduction17/06/15 10:42 PM
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Damn man, you're on the ball. I can actually do most of those. However, I thought the general consensus was to not use texting for anything other than setting things up?
/r/seduction17/06/15 08:44 PM
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That makes a shit ton of sense. I dunno why the hell I didn't think of that.
/r/seduction15/06/15 11:08 PM
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Alright, I'll ask one. I've focused all my study on approaching, not so much what happens after. I kinda said "fuck it" and finally approached this girl at a deli I've wanted to talk to for a while. Got her number. Fuck yeah. ...Now what? Do I aim to take her on an actual date? Hang out with friends? Any ideas? I've heard the coffee shop/park/bar thing a lot, but I live in a podunk rural town. Coffee shops don't exist out here and everything is miles apart that you have to drive to.
/r/seduction15/06/15 10:59 PM
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I know it's late, but I just thought about this and wanted to reply. I've been improving myself for the last couple years. I've done a lot of stuff for my personal life, but my social life is still suffering. I had some pretty traumatic experiences with friends and girls growing up, so from the latter part of elementary school up til college I didn't talk to anybody unless they spoke to me first, didn't have any friends and had extremely low self-esteem to where I would automatically assume I wa…
/r/seduction13/06/15 01:22 AM
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Everything about me is pretty ho-hum though. I have a crappy job and I don't usually do anything interesting in my spare time. I know the answer to that... "get a better job and go out and do cool stuff!" but it's not that easy. I would get a new job...but I have no idea what I want to do with my life. I don't particularly like anything really. I've tried a bunch of different hobbies, clubs, classes and even volunteered, but there's nothing in this life that I really care about or get excited ab…
/r/seduction10/06/15 11:32 PM
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A trick a lot of PUA's will tell you is to "over-emote." Basically, most of us not-extremely-social people have faces made of stone, because we don't use them very much. So you kinda have to go beyond what you'd consider a normal expression just to get to what's actually considered normal. It's weird at first, but you'll get it. Another thing - smiling from just your mouth makes you look like a serial killer who's really pleased by how neatly he just disposed of that body. The trick to making a …
/r/seduction10/06/15 11:23 PM
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True. I always thought nobody wanted me. After I got into this seduction stuff, started practicing eye contact, smiling at people and making light conversation, all of a sudden I started getting lots of positive reactions, and even know of 2-3 girls who said they're interested. Not that I know how to capitalize on that, but it's a start.
/r/seduction10/06/15 10:26 PM
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You need to learn to teach girls have to have a conversation. You SHOULD NOT be doing all the work. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI
/r/seduction03/06/15 08:13 PM
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I do volunteer work at a wildlife rehabilitation clinic, and EVERY volunteer there is a college girl going pre-vet. (except for me) Volunteering is great for your resume for both jobs and women, and animal-based volunteering is usually full of women. Try a local animal shelter or something, but be warned...you will be cleaning up poop at some point. I've heard dancing is also great, and want to try it at some point. There's no downside to being in a room full of women where you have a built-in e…
/r/seduction03/06/15 08:07 PM
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If a girl is stringing you along, or using you as an "emotional boyfriend" then the best course of action is to distance yourself, stop giving her attention and see if she comes around on your terms. But I don't think that's what's happening here. She's simply not attracted to you, she told you that point blank. She's not giving you IOI's, she's just being herself, being friendly, because she feels comfortable around you. Comfortable, not aroused. There's two courses of action here. 1 - Leave he…
/r/seduction03/06/15 07:58 PM
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Quick tip: When you go up to girls to give them a compliment like that, do it freely. If you're expecting to get something from your compliment (be it a reaction, a number, whatever) then it will come off as creepy because you have hidden intentions, and girls can sense that.
/r/seduction03/06/15 02:24 PM
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Don't worry man, I'm right there with you. When I was in college, I was hopelessly socially inept, wore baggy clothes from Wal-mart, was rather obese and did nothing but play video games all day. I've since went to the gym and started eating right, lost 100 lbs, studied a bit of fashion advice on the internet, got all new clothes, took up some interesting hobbies, read a lot of books that dealt with low self-esteem issues, started thinking more positively and started putting myself out there mor…
/r/seduction03/06/15 01:32 PM
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I don't give much credence to the whole alpha vs. beta thing. Sure, there's a general social hierarchy in the human world, but we all have our ups and downs. Don't overthink it. Speaking of, don't overthink much of anything. It's important to analyze your interactions to find out where you need improvement, but don't drive yourself nuts trying to figure out WHY somebody did something. Remember the 60/40 principle. 60% of every interaction is the other person, and you have no control over it. You…
/r/seduction02/06/15 07:57 PM
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Watch the video. He explains it better than I can in text.
/r/seduction31/05/15 06:42 PM
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Are you high? Cuz your last two sentences directly contradict each other. In any event, this sub has helped me tremendously over the last few months, and I've learned a lot of concepts that I was clueless about before coming here. So to each his own.
/r/seduction31/05/15 06:41 PM
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Sexual escalation. Most will say Kino, and it is a big one. But there's also body language and positioning, voice tonality, strong eye contact, and what you say. Making jokes about sex doesn't escalate much. Talking about sex does. This video gives some good pointers. I don't like how often he uses canned routines, but you'll get the gist. If you don't be bold, don't arouse her, don't escalate...don't show girls that you are a sexual human being, then how can they see you as one?
/r/seduction31/05/15 05:33 PM
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I subscribed to redpill a long time ago, had to unsubscribe. I get that it's supposed to be about men improving themselves, but more often than not that community is toxic and negative in their views towards women, and it's counterproductive towards seduction. I think /r/seduction has a better mindset. 1 - Improve yourself. 2- Have fun with it, enjoy being around women and in social situations. 3- Leave them better than when you found them. Whereas /r/redpill seems to be about focusing on yourse…
/r/seduction31/05/15 05:27 PM
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Unless this is part of a joke you guys have (I'm guessing no) then it doesn't sound like a girl I'd want to pursue. Seems too wrapped up in her own issues. The subtext sounds either depressed or insecure, and the fact that she said something with a negative connotation without providing any details is usually drama or attention-seeking behavior. Just a guess though, I don't know this girl. But I don't think the comment has anything to do with you, I think she's just weird/has issues. Just ask he…
/r/seduction30/05/15 08:17 PM
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Watch this dude, it'll help a lot with conversation. So far Nick Sparks is the only dating couch that's given me the information I really needed to know, and makes it very simple to understand. Really recommend finding his conference videos on youtube, stuff is gold.
/r/seduction30/05/15 08:13 PM
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Like I said before, I'm not really in on this argument because I could give a shit whether you (or anybody else) jerks it or not. I don't know why you do, and I don't care. That's your business. As it should be. But I've seen that bibliography. "Monkeys Pay to See Female Monkey Bottoms" is on that list. Most of the rest are studies on rats or other unrelated topics. I've seen a lot of good-looking arguments backed up by all sorts of studies. But when someone gives you a million things to support…
/r/seduction19/05/15 01:12 AM
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No opinion on the argument at hand, but that link is far from a reliable source.
/r/seduction17/05/15 09:41 PM
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This helped me. I'm pretty terrible at talking to people I don't know, especially girls. But this video helped me rethink how I was trying to have a conversation. After I started applying the strategy in the video I found making conversation to be a lot easier than I thought it had to be.
/r/seduction12/05/15 02:01 AM
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Ya, I dropped the ball on that one last week. If I had assumed attraction and made a move instead of wondering if she was really into me and not doing anything, she might still be talking to me right now. :/
/r/seduction01/05/15 01:54 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion man, I think I'll try that.
/r/seduction30/04/15 09:46 PM
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Thanks for the advice man. I've been trying to be unpredictable in my response times... sometimes I text her back somewhat promptly, sometimes it might be an hour or so. But I almost never text back right away. With this girl (she's just a tad crazy) if I don't text back shortly, she'll send me another text or two with additional content, like she's trying to keep the conversation from breaking down. So I'm gonna take that as a good sign haha
/r/seduction25/04/15 02:34 PM
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yup, doesn't always work though. I'm texting this one girl, set up a day for us to go out this weekend and pretty much left it at that, as I'm trying to avoid pointless text chit-chat. She's been texting me like every day though regardless, and I have horrible text game. -_-"
/r/seduction25/04/15 12:52 AM
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I've seen guys say stuff like "I like your shoes though" (while they're walking away) or "But my mom loves me!", or some shit like that. That sounds cringe-worthy, and to be honest, comes off as them trying to make it seem as if the rejection doesn't hurt as much as it does. It almost sounds like when you were in middle school and someone got into a fight with one of their friends and was like, "well I don't need you anyway, I've got lots of friends!" When you say that, it's pretty much understo…
/r/seduction29/03/15 04:20 AM
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I know what you mean. After I started reading No More Mr. Nice Guy...I realized, "this is me, this is exactly me" and it tore my world apart. I ended up driving my car around 3 different counties all night long, just thinking about what I read, my life, and the implications of it all. But, I really haven't made much progress since then. Seems every time I tackle an excuse not to be more social, I just think up another one. Knowing what you have to do...is a lot different than actually doing it. …
/r/seduction15/03/15 02:14 AM
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It's not supposed to be a goal...more like a mile marker that shows you're closer to your destination than you were before. I think a lot of new guys (like me) tend to look at it like a goal because when you're new to this, it's a simpler, closer goal to reach than the goal of sleeping with her/dating her. You know, the whole 'set simple, attainable goals so the bar doesn't seem quite so high' thing.
/r/seduction15/03/15 02:02 AM
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If she looks back, give her a knowing/bemused smile before looking away. Like, "ha, caught you looking...I know you're into me." Then watch her melt.
/r/seduction07/03/15 02:33 PM
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This took me a long time to learn, and I'm still not 100% comfortable with it all the time. But I've come a long way. I used to be so shy and insecure that I'd look down or away the second I made eye contact with someone. I've gotten a lot better since then - last week I went to the orientation for the place I'm going to be volunteering at this summer. Little did I know that the volunteers for this thing were primarily girls. I walk into the room, and (I'm not joking) almost 100 girls sitting in…
/r/seduction07/03/15 02:29 PM
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That's my biggest problem. I dunno if I'm a psychopath or something lol, but I find it really hard to care about or empathize with other people. I try but.. I didn't have the best interactions with people growing up, and there was a lot of built up mistrust in people, so much so that by the time I got around to high school I had almost completely cut myself off from other humans. Now that I'm trying to learn these skills, I'm finding out the hard way that I got about 20 years worth of social ski…
/r/seduction12/02/15 08:45 AM
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The internet's highest honor... xD
/r/seduction12/02/15 06:20 AM
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Reminds me of a quote... "The best way to get someone interested in you, is to show interest in them." Or something like that.
/r/seduction12/02/15 06:17 AM
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This is slightly different than, but mostly in line with, everything I've read so far. I really need to internalize this shit. I'm trying, just not 100% there yet.
/r/seduction12/02/15 06:12 AM
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Unfortunately, there's no way to see a therapist without paying for it. Honestly, I dunno how much they cost nowadays, I haven't been to one in years. They should be covered under health insurance though. The only way to get one for free is if you personally know a therapist, but they hate doing that. They tend to be really anal about keeping their professional and personal lives seperate. However, there might be therapy groups available in your area for a multitude of different things, and I th…
/r/seduction27/01/15 02:24 AM
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Honestly, some of these problems really seem like they need to be dealt with in a therapist's office. The anxiety you feel is a pretty common problem, and an experienced sex therapist can help you deal with that no problem. Premature ejaculation can be solved as well. It can be either a physical or mental problem, so that's also something you can talk to a therapist about. If that doesn't work, see your doctor. Doing kegels and crap can be good for some things, but your anxieties are issues that…
/r/seduction26/01/15 03:44 AM
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Pretty much my excuse. I'm living with my parents because I just graduated college and am saddled with all kinds of debt. I could move out, but the state I live in is ridiculously expensive and I wanna save some money before setting out on my own. In this day and age it's not uncommon to find people in their early to mid twenties who still live with their parents. It's simply more practical given the job market and today's economy; doubly so if you have student loan debt. I'm pretty sure most gi…
/r/seduction01/01/15 05:01 AM
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I remember my Mom saying she grew up with her mom giving them shit like mayonnaise sandwiches for lunch, so I assumed that was due to the Depression. In hindsight, they were prolly just poor.
/r/seduction21/12/14 07:44 AM
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lol, I forgot that was a thing. I also remembered that AIM was a thing. ha But I just spell it phonetically. I'm from Jersey so that's just how I talk, and for whatever reason, how I spell it on message boards.
/r/seduction21/12/14 07:41 AM
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Right?
/r/seduction21/12/14 07:38 AM
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Yes. Although, only dying parts, like say a strand that frames their face or whatever, is highly appealing because it isn't so...cotton candy head looking.
/r/seduction21/12/14 04:39 AM
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Damn...I prolly should go see them soon...
/r/seduction21/12/14 04:17 AM
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I actually didn't realize this til now, but I'm not a big fan of that either. I don't have a foot fetish but feet tattoos tells me she's trashy.
/r/seduction21/12/14 04:07 AM
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I love chicks who dye their hair some crazy color. To me they're like unicorns.
/r/seduction21/12/14 04:05 AM
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My Mom used to wonder aloud how girls with ridiculously long nails wiped their asses. To this day I'm still not sure how they manage it, and I'm not sure I wanna know the answer.
/r/seduction21/12/14 04:00 AM
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Seconded. I once went on a blind date with a chick in Ohio who refused to smile for the first half hour. Eventually I cracked enough jokes to get her to crack a smile, and her teeth were BROWN. I made an excuse and drove her home. Nope nope nope.
/r/seduction21/12/14 03:59 AM
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Both my grandparents smoke at least 2 packs a day, and have been since prolly sometime during the Great Depression. They're both almost 80 now. Just sayin'
/r/seduction21/12/14 03:56 AM
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Not only are you overthinking it, but you're putting too much thought, effort and wasted time into one girl. Go talk to some others. If you text that one girl again, don't talk. Invite her to do something.
/r/seduction13/12/14 11:25 PM
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Firstly, I should mention that I'm not looking for specific advice Well, like I said, I'm not really asking for advice. I've already turned down all the offers given. It's more of a general ethics discussion. If everyone was pretty much in agreement that my view on it was silly, then I would reconsider it. But it seems the majority of you agree with me, it's a can of worms and drama and bullshit that probably shouldn't ever be opened.
/r/seduction16/11/14 10:11 AM
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In Models he says there are two types of guys. Ones that can read social cues very well, almost too well, and end up overthinking everything and being extremely nervous about approaching. That's me. Then there are guys who have no problem being themselves or approaching, but suck at reading subtle social cues. Maybe you're the latter? If so, I'd suggest maybe reading up on social cues and body language. But I'm just guessing, because you didn't give us much to go on.
/r/seduction15/11/14 01:14 AM
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You could have just googled that, since you didn't provide any extra information... But to put it simply, abundance theory. If you only have one girl on your radar, you're going to feel like if you let her get away, then you'll have nothing. That's onitis, and it's needy as hell. Get a dozen girls into your social life, and you have abundance. You can be choosy, it becomes a buyer's market. Oneitis gone.
/r/seduction15/11/14 01:10 AM
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Even if someone told you everything to do right, you're not going to be a confident, awesome ladies man by tonight. So toss that idea out the window, because you're just placing your own bullshit expectations onto yourself which is just added pressure. If you've never been to a party before, don't go to pick up girls. Go to have fun. Like jimmyrude said, have fun, meet people, have conversations: keep it light and fun and your expectations low. *EDIT: You're not going to get a girl tonight. You …
/r/seduction14/11/14 08:37 PM
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Ya, when they ask what you do just say, "I'm a student" which will redirect the conversation in that direction.
/r/seduction08/10/14 09:07 PM
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You make some logical and reasonable points, can't really dispute that. But, if he /absolutely/ had to get a job for the sake of his own self-worth and confidence, it's better than nothing. Plus, having some change in his pocket would allow him to afford an interesting hobby. Hobbies are expensive yo. But, I only used McDonalds as a minimum wage example, there are plenty of other minimum wage jobs to choose from. You could stock things at Lowe's, be a cash register person, refill propane bottles…
/r/seduction08/10/14 02:56 AM
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You have a point I guess. But, if a girl wouldn't date you because you worked at McDonalds and not somewhere "cooler" you have to ask yourself, "do I really want a girl with such shallow priorities?" Of course, there's really no right or wrong answer to that.
/r/seduction07/10/14 07:12 PM
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Ever heard the acronym NEET? It's used to mean someone who is not Not Employed or in Education or Training. Meaning, someone who is doing nothing with their life. You're a student, and you have an apartment and a car. You're good to go. If not having a job/being broke are confidence killers for you, or you'd just like some pocket change so you can get coffee with a girl, then go apply at McDonalds or something. Money is money, and as a college student, no one will look down on you for doing a mi…
/r/seduction06/10/14 10:06 PM
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Mhmm, hence why I'm here. My self-image and self-improvement journey have come a long way, but girls and great social skills is my last major sticking point.
/r/seduction28/09/14 04:34 AM
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If you read Mark Manson's book "Models" he goes over this a bit. Nobody is perfect. Your job is to weed out the people you wouldn't want to be with in order to find the ones you do. You accomplish this by polarizing people. In order to do this, you need to realize what your values are, which will help you establish boundaries. Basically, you need to know what you will/won't tolerate so you can make a quick decision as to whether or not you want that person in your life. If being lazy or a drama …
/r/seduction21/09/14 03:20 PM
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Just a tip that I've learned from learning a foreign language. If you write a to-do list or a set of goals, try making them short term goals, things that you can do /right now/ Keeping your goals accomplish-able and getting small things done will more effectively boost your self-esteem and confidence. Writing down goals that take years to complete or that are too large/vague will be more likely to demotivate you. Something like "I'm going to try to have conversations with 3 girls today" is a lot…
/r/seduction21/09/14 03:07 PM
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Read the post above you. You can change whether you are outgoing or not, you cannot change whether you are introverted or extroverted. It has to do with the baseline stimulation in your brain, you cannot change that. Being introverted IS NOT the same thing as being shy, reclusive or socially awkward. Being introverted does make someone more inclined to be that way, but they are not the same things.
/r/seduction21/09/14 02:58 PM
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This might help... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo62S0ulqhA&index=1&list=LLgNu2SOSUVpxmH0FfmhZvag
/r/seduction13/09/14 03:31 AM
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I don't even...
/r/seduction13/09/14 03:30 AM
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I've never understood how guys can grow up and not know even the basics of cooking. If a guy didn't know how to sew a sweater, a wouldn't blame him; but cooking is kinda like an essential life skill...unless you live off of McDonalds and Instant Ramen. It takes practice, just like everything else. Throw some food into a pan, add a random variety of spices, and through trial and error you'll figure out how to make food that doesn't taste like shit. If you want to make something specific, just goo…
/r/seduction13/09/14 03:24 AM
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I started working on myself and just not worrying about women. I haven't gotten laid in...well, let's just say several years and leave it at that. But, I'm constantly busy with self-improvement stuff, which gave myself higher value in my mind and really helped put things into perspective.I don't /need/ a woman in my life, it would be nice to have one, but I don't need one. So I'm not needy.
/r/seduction12/09/14 02:14 AM
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Jumping right into hand holding then going straight from that to the kiss was probably too rapid of a kino escalation. Unless you just left the smaller stuff out.
/r/seduction12/09/14 02:08 AM
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Don't quit your job in order to become more available. That's the exact opposite of what this forum preaches. Being overly available isn't attractive.
/r/seduction12/09/14 02:03 AM
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Can't give you an answer on that, mostly because I don't know but also because nobody else here knows for sure either. We aren't in her head. But, a "hook" as I understand it, is when she's interested enough that when you ask her a question (something personal usually) she gives you a genuine response. Doesn't sound like she is. That, or she has the personality of your average sedimentary rock. The second thing is, you can't be afraid of losing her. That will take you down a one way path to the …
/r/seduction11/09/14 02:06 AM
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Wow, thank you. To be honest I've never approached a girl before but was hoping to do so soon, right now I'm working on myself, trying to become a more social/fun person in general and build more rapport/status with the friends I have. I started accepting pretty much every offer to do something fun and social that comes my way, which has increased since I started being more confident and engaging. I'm even organizing a social outing with friends in two weeks, and was hoping to approach a girl or…
/r/seduction11/09/14 01:46 AM
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Some guys at first might very well stay in a PU mindset even after they enter into a relationship, or they have trouble dropping the game stuff and focusing on making a connection and becoming friends because the best relationships are ones where you are friends, not ones that revolve around sex. Mystery touched on it a tad in his video. After you establish a connection with a girl, you don't have to rely on spitting game so much...you shouldn't really neg or DHV at that point because your work …
/r/seduction09/09/14 08:36 PM
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