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This reads like some TRP, AWALT fanfiction. Yeah, that's the kind of comment I thought this was going to get. I mean, I think the convo is more nuanced than RP would admit (for one thing, I don't think this kind of attraction is really create-able - it's either there or it isn't imo) but...yeah, I knew I was gonna get these responses. Would you believe any of the blue pills if they said they didn't identify with my post in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:37 PM
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To be clear, OP, you're asking only about sexual attraction? I'll answer but I want to make sure you're just getting at that single factor or if you're asking for a more comprehensive answer...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 06:31 PM
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Terrible 'debating' from you, Carkudo. Absolutely terrible. The "why are you using the word 'involuntary' when 'voluntary' seems more applicable" is totally legit - it's come up a number of times on PPD on this topic and it's fair. No one is making up or changing the definitions of words. You/others are being questioned because you seem to be using it to mean not a slightly different thing from what it means but to mean the exact opposite of what it means. You're not allowed to do that and get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 05:37 PM
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Interesting. I am the oldest child of all-female siblings and have already decided that if I have kids, at least the first one will get my last name, whether I'm married or not. And that sentiment does come from a sense of 'duty' in a lot of ways. Duty to my family/my father in carrying on the family name etc. The only cousins who have had children on the paternal side of the family are female and their kids have the husband's last name so somehow it feels even more pressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:13 PM
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Oddly enough it's often the media hangers-on who have that 'I just walked out of a concentration camp' look about them. What's her name with the bug eyes and dark hair and the 80lbs max. thing going on? Alexa Chung - yep, she's a lollipop. It's funny because facially she is insanely beautiful but her legs look like matchsticks. Alexander Skarsgard likes 'em skinny af.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 08:29 PM
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Omg whoa OK OK OK HOLY SHIT I WILL CUDDLE LEGOS AND AM SORRY FOR IMPLYING IN ANY WAY THAT THEY WERE NOT CUDDLY!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 08:27 PM
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Did he just call us fugs? He just called us fugs, didn't he?! outrage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 06:24 PM
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D8 = perfect male body (well, given the tiny pic size and as far as I can see)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 06:23 PM
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I like the two middle photos best. Far right looks like cuddling him would feel like cuddling a pile of Legos.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 06:19 PM
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I haaaate that look. The red carpet photos from big events have become more and more disappointing over the past few years. I'm starting to think I might have a personal bias against super-low body fat in men AND women. Too-low body fat just makes people look like meat. All stringy and veiny ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 06:17 PM
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It raised considerations you did not appear to have thought of. Oh dear. You guys can never let it go without getting a bitchy little dig in, can you? ;P It's not that I'm unaware that people might have a billion reasons not to care to provide a response... to an asked question... on a debate sub. I'm pretty sure your take on this is a LOT more charitable than mine (and although you have refused to address this point, something tells me you might be less charitable were the viewpoint being quest…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:20 AM
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I feel like this exchange has now got to be worth about 20% of the responses of this whole comment section. Once again, I don't know what to say. All I said initially was: RPs in this thread have not proven their assertions. That's still my opinion. No reason for anyone to care about that, unless their aim was to convince me/others of their correctness. If not, cool. Your ideas on why people are here etc. - sure, yep. This has got to be one of the most pointless convos I've ever had on PPD. Well…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 12:46 AM
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He said this: It's not a conscious conspiracy if that makes any sense. My response was this: I don't think there's a conspiracy. Conscious or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 10:19 PM
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'They' told me this, too. In school when I was growing up, in books, on TV. I still knew what was attractive. "Be yourself" is a non-gendered, society-wide message we feed to children. It is not (nor is it proof of) a female conspiracy to keep what is and isn't attractive from hapless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:13 PM
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Sure, you see articles. I'm talking about peer reviewed academic studies. I see articles about studies. I, too, am talking about peer reviewed academic studies. The ones that I see articles on. Just because your reading is limited to feminist propaganda, doesn't mean nothing else exists. Why do you think my reading is limited to feminist propaganda? Where did you get that? I went back and read my post and didn't see anything that would have indicated this...? There is an abundance of proof of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:06 PM
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I agree that (leftist/progressive/feminist etc.) ideology in academia is often a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 08:54 PM
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I disagree with you. Most women - just like most men - know very well what's attractive - in themselves and in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 08:48 PM
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I don't even know why we're talking anymore. If you want to convince someone of your opinion, you need to...convince them. Provide proof or solid evidence. None was provided in this comment section. I am not convinced. The end. FWIW I am all for discussion. Opening with "this is what I think is true" is much better, when one cannot provide proof than "this is unquestionably how it objectively is." Last point: you've ignored my comments on how were this flipped around and BP was offering the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 08:43 PM
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I don't think there's a conspiracy. Conscious or otherwise. I do not think women are attempting to hide from men what is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 08:35 PM
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I used the word "most" for a reason. I am not getting into another interminable back and forth with you, Pem. This will be my only response. I do not agree with you that a large proportion of young men are unaware of what is attractive to women. I'm sure there are some. Hence "most"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 08:30 PM
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Excellent post and applicable to so much of what gets discussed around here (and the way its discussed).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 07:52 PM
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The lack of scientific study around attraction is not due to science being incapable, it is due to society (mainly highly charged feminist lobbies) preventing scientists doing the investigations. Dude, come on now. I constantly see articles discussing this or that new scientific study on attraction. You're talking about scientists being banned and barred due to their work on attraction and due to pressure from feminist organizations. Any links? (and note: criticism of a study or a finding isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 07:49 PM
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Bottom line is, people are going to believe what they believe and in a free society there is nothing anyone can do about it. Of course. But, once again, this is a debate sub. This places exists to discuss and question the things we believe on the topic. I'm not entirely sure I see the point of a statement like this from someone participating in the discussion. I mean...I'm discussing it. That's why I'm here. If you don't feel it's worth talking about it you're free to not talk about it. I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:58 PM
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Fucking pillow-giving LOSER. You can imagine how quickly I crossed him off the "Potential Beta Bux$$$" list!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 05:49 PM
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But you continue to ask about what is/isn't moral as if there is only one universal morality against which to judge any action. Nope, as I said, just trying to clarify YOUR position. I am explicitly stating right now that I do not believe there is one universal morality. But you continue to couch it in terms of morality Is it not a moral issue in your opinion? The woman lying about her BC - immoral? Amoral? Moral?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 05:45 PM
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Yeah, I saw the lack of the little green 'M'. Still, everyone knows you're a mod, your words have a kind of weight here even without terrifying green Ms. Two people could give similar opinions but if we have good reason to believe that one of them isn't genuine in what they say they believe then that could reasonably be understood as trolling... I'm not sure I agree with this at all. I mean, yes, this could be trolling, of course. But I also think there was a very valid point to be made with tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 04:54 PM
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So, multiple men sharing common observations, experiences and diverse literary accounts of human behaviour, will be satisfactory proof to many, if not the OP. I've just replied to someone else along these lines. I know that this will be acceptable proof to many. I know that it is impossible to quantify human emotion. But. There will be many things that RP would find completely unacceptable that will be backed by common observations, experience and diverse literary accounts. It's not enough to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 04:47 PM
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The original claim is RP's, the burden of proof is on RP. You can start another thread asking OP to prove some of her assertions, but it won't let RP off the hook in terms of proving their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 04:41 PM
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Alright. Now. I think a LOT of people on this sub go way overboard with claims of their opinions being 'scientific' and quantifiable and a big part of that is because I think we generally deal with topics here that explicitly involve emotions and emotional states and that quantifying emotions or metaphysical states is almost certainly a dead-end/impossible. That said, what kind of evidence would you need if someone came in here and posted that women's love was more constant/deeper/more long-last…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 04:39 PM
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The OP asked: "How much, if any, deception as a sexual strategy should be acceptable?" and you responded "whatever it takes to get what you want." At no point during this conversation have I made any assertions about the universality of morality. What I've been trying to do (and what you've been wiggling away from, I suspect because you realize you have two choices: 1. admit that you have no issue with a woman who lies about being on BC and then goes after the father, who has been tricked into f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 04:23 PM
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Really? The TRP sidebar, which I have read, does not contain proof that women love men differently to how men love women. It asserts this as fact, as do many people in this thread, but it does not offer proof. This is a debate sub, you know. Would you buy "I can't be bothered to answer even though I totally do have a solid answer" from BP? Come on, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 03:17 AM
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I asked my bf for a pillow this weekend and the weak bitch just gave me one. He didn't even just give me one, he half-leaned out of bed to grab it. All my tingles immediately ceased and I called up a male friend to come over at once and fuck me in my bf's bed while he lay next to us, weeping. It was clearly his own fault, I'm sure you'll agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 03:09 AM
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You are morally OK with the actions of a woman who does this, that's all I was getting at. Because not all men will choose to spend their lives on the run or working under the table. Some of those men will be made to pay child support. You are explicitly morally OK with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 03:04 AM
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I see lots of people 'bothering' to attempt a reply in this comment section. OP's question is legit. 'Women are incapable of loving men the way men love women' is a very controversial position, to say the least. It's no one's fault but RPs if they can't/won't provide arguments to back up their position. They should be able to. The fact that they aren't is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 02:02 AM
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you think you're better than science What 'science'? That's exactly what the OP is asking for - any proof at all of the RP position re: how women love men vs how men love women. Do you have any?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 12:24 AM
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Women can't do this. Echoing /u/boogerpill on another assertion of yours: how do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 12:13 AM
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OP, they've got nothing. I've just read through all the replies to this thread and yeah...nothing. Unless you count "but I strongly feel like it's true" as a solid argument. Or "but some guy said it was true on his blog." Or "but it happened to me this one time." Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 12:08 AM
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Also as a note, your post is filled with sarcasm. Using so much sarcasm like that probably isn't the best way to start off if your goal is to really engage people who disagree with you. Omfg. The mod team here really needs to spell out when aggression/aggressive sarcasm/outright rudeness etc. is acceptable here on PDD and when it isn't. Have you read the responses to OP? Here are some: to what? you bleeding feels all over the internet? don't make me laugh. No, it will be a waste of time for you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 12:02 AM
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I did mention children, too. It's possible to care about more species than one. And yes, execution. Some of them might be tortured first, so their last experience of life would be the suffering they inflicted, and the knowledge that their torturer didn't care/might be enjoying it just as much as they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 12:11 AM
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Or is this the utopian vs realist problem again. Redschool, stahp. I know you think your thoughts and beliefs are reality based and the thoughts and beliefs of the other people are...not. But they think that about you, too. Neither side's belief that they're the most reality-adhered is any proof that they are. is that really bad? I think the question is more "is that correct?" rather than "is it bad?" And I suspect the answer, disappointingly for certainty-addicts, is probably "sometimes yes, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:28 PM
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If the others negatively affected were animal or child abusers and the group I joined was summarily executing them (i.e. negatively affecting them) then I would still join. Is this going to happen? No. But I'm sort of not entirely joking, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:50 PM
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I have noticed that women are much more likely to appreciate a fit-but-curveless female body than men are, FWIW. There's something about female curves that just gives men brain freeze. That something is sexual and straight women obvs. aren't as affected by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:39 PM
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One of my friends got this book as a joke gift when she got engaged. I've read snippets. I mean, I basically think that one either thinks there is one way to a happy relationship or there are multiple ways. I'm the latter. If what you're doing works for you, then have at it. Even if it's something I think is bonkers. Reading the little excerpts of the book I have it weirdly make me think of a certain flavour of relationship-incompetent Red Pill man. It's a handbook for clueless people. The woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:36 PM
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No. You missed the point about where you FOLLOW that he chooses you to take a more directive role. This kind of makes it sound like a FLR or femdom relationship could be classified as 'RPW'. On another note, what do you think (yes, I'm asking for speculation) would have happened had Misspearl continued the experiment for a longer time and without telling her SO what she was doing? I mean, as far as I can speculate, the dynamic was just never going to work for either of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:26 PM
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Do you have a very striking fashion/hair/make-up look or style? Maybe this has to do with the fact that straight women aren't looking at other women as sexual objects. I don't want to fuck women. Men are more likely to see tits/ass/facial beauty alone and ignore other aspects of a woman's 'look' than women, imo. In fact I think a lot of very stylish women actually hurt their chances with men (in that they're not dressing the way they do to attract men in the first place).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:45 PM
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Yeah, Anne Hathaway IS a good example. Weirdly, she was my ex's 'Celeb Cheat' woman and I thought she was a little cartoonish-looking until his total lust for her kind of brought me around to seeing her as beautiful, too. But in general, yeah, women seem to find her hotter than a lot of dudes do. I think age might have something to do with it, too. Men's tastes get more personalized/refined/less porn-y as they get older and more experienced (sometimes, anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:42 PM
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I generally don't get into these 'men are more rational than women' debates on PPD anymore (or, I try not to). I think if anything it's something like 'men are more likely to rationalize (heh) their/male behaviours and responses to a given situation as 'rational' than they are the behaviours and responses of women.' I mean, look what's being offered up as 'proof' here (not just Sardonis). One guy up thread used the fact that there is a blog entitled 'The Rational Male' as evidence. There was als…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:34 PM
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The cryptochristian moralists need to defend their ethics because there is nothing else supporting it, and most fail I think we need to define 'cryptochristian moralists' before we go any further here. What specifically does this term mean? Are they moralists because they have moral beliefs or because their moral beliefs differ from yours or...? And again, why 'Christian' specifically? Many non-Christian cultures and religions have ethical belief systems. Please be more specific. I guess I'm jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:03 AM
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Humanists subscribe to the Golden Rule, AFAIK (and I just Googled it and Google says they definitely do, explicitly) and the Golden Rule has been with humanity for longer than Christianity has been a thing, has been part of religions and cultures all over the world and in many different historical periods. I usually assume, when I hear 'treat ppl like ppl' and 'don't be an asshole' that the person expressing that is pretty much stating their belief in the Golden Rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:15 AM
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When I ask this question I am asking it of the individual. As for cryptochristian atheism - what exactly do you mean? That a non-specifically Christian person with strong moral beliefs is somehow Christian? Why not Hindu or Buddhist (for example)? Is it impossible to be concerned with morality without believing in God? Do you have any moral beliefs? Or is this simply an issue with 'I believe X is immoral but I accept that others do not believe X is immoral' vs 'I believe X is immoral and anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:11 AM
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OK. At least you're consistent. And what if in this theoretical I do manage to track you down and have you DNA tested/proven to be the father. You accept the financial consequences - may not like them - but you accept I didn't do anything morally wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:02 PM
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OK then, lets go with your dodge and say I can't find this guy and I don't want child support. I just want a baby and have straight-up lied to him about this and reassured him, when asked, that I was using BC. I got what I want out of it. Is this acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:12 PM
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On point 3, what if what I want is a baby (and some sweet, sweet child support to keep said baby in organic diapers and only the best preschools) and I've kept this from you/lied to you about being on birth control? You appear to be saying that this is acceptable because it gets me what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:06 PM
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I've shown that Instagram models get hired for modeling jobs. You need to show that IG models who prostitute themselves are getting jobs at a higher rate than those who don't or 'stealing' said jobs from the non-hookers, and that they're getting them because they'll have sex for $. Because that was your initial claim - that the prostitutes were somehow stealing legit modeling/acting job from the non-prozzies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 08:26 PM
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I gave you a simple, logical explanation -- which you ignored. I didn't ignore it. I just don't think that explaining how something could happen is the same thing as saying that it therefore is happening. As for the people scouted on Instagram, aren't they being scouted based on their beauty? And not on whether or not they're selling themselves to middle eastern oil princes for Chanel accessories? If you think modeling agencies are interested in literally anything except raw facial beauty, you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:11 PM
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I'll say this for PPD: it has exposed me to a much, much broader spectrum of humanity than I thought existed before I came here. Maybe it's just because internet and people feel freer to state the things they truly believe here without the fear of being socially outcast? But seriously. "I love my husband who does not fit with this very specific definition." "You're lying." WHY even come here?!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:06 PM
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Absolutely. Cool, that's all I wanted to know. However, I want to get the clearest picture of the dynamics as I can, so I don't want that picture influenced by any particular morality. No problem. When discussing, for example, "dread game" it is useful to me to know that you can use a woman's terror of abandonment to get sex from her (actually, it's not particularly useful in my case, 'cause that fact is somewhat obvious to me, but it might not be to others). It helps paint a complete picture. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:01 PM
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Omg I read your response and was like, chill, Highog, that person is clearly being sarcastic. Then I kept reading and...nope. Oh dear. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:39 PM
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OK, you know what's great for most human beings? Being attractive. Having other humans being attracted to you. Feels wonderful. But other things feel great too. Being physically fit just feels awesome. It would feel just as awesome if one lived alone at the top of a mountain as it did if one lived surrounded by people. There's a sort of physical exuberance that comes with fitness that genuinely isn't about other people. So...why not both? Or, depending on the person, why not one more than the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:35 PM
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Is deception a useful sexual strategy? Yes. Is deception a moral sexual strategy? Are you asking me if it's 'in the realm of morality' or if it's immoral vs moral? If it's the former then yes, if it's the latter then it depends on the specific situation and context - at least in terms of me being able to give you an answer. How much, if any, deception as a sexual strategy should be acceptable? Again, this is going to totally depend on the person. I assume 99.99% of us would answer 'no' to 'is it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:32 PM
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Well, what do you think? Do you think makeup and push-up bras are deceptive? And do you therefore think they're immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:27 PM
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What I'm not arguing: specific moral points of specific actions. I'm pretty sure you and I could both come up with particular acts of 'dread game' that we thought were moral, and others we thought were immoral. I think what I described - a man knowingly using a woman's terror of abandonment to get sex from her - is immoral. I think what you described with your wife is not immoral. Ask other people about these scenarios, you're going to get some different answers. What I am arguing: that once the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:21 PM
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When we talk about what might negatively happen when you pursue redpill advice, suddenly, it's an amoral strategy again. At least, until it comes time to talk trash about the blue. It's rather hypocritical, and exposes the true agenda at work, behind it all. This. As far as I can see there is a seriously high level of dodging and obfuscating going on in this thread. You even said/conceded in one of your posts: Everything is, as an abstract concept, morally neutral until it affects something else…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:06 PM
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All I'm asking you for is proof - any at all - that these IG models are taking pro modeling/acting jobs away from pro models/actresses. We really don't have any evidence that these IG models are getting paid modeling/acting work via their IG brands. It's a red-herring and you know it. As for prostitution, yes. That's a job. IG is the platform that allows the ones who sell themselves to do their jobs/get paid. And let me be clear here: I am not saying all IG models are prostitutes. There are othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:53 AM
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That's not a job. Yes it is. Note how much $ some of these women are making. Being hot on the internet is not only a 'job' - it's a very lucrative one. Do you have any evidence AT ALL that Instagram models who are willing to suck dick for $ are taking acting or modeling jobs away from professional actresses or models? You don't, because it isn't happening. These IG girls are building a personal brand (or, trying to), not looking to get starring roles in movies or sign contracts with Lancome. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:36 AM
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How many women has that dude got on his blog responding to indulge in coprophilia for $? Out of how many IG models? I'd like to think some care might be exercised here but I know that's probably ridiculous. The struggle taking place to somehow make this about 'but these women are stealing legit jobs from other women who won't get shit on for $' is laaaame. Ur mad because these chicks are hot and they can make a lot of $$ from rich dudes willing to pay for the hotness. That's it. They won't fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:31 AM
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Every job these women get by prostituting themselves is a job someone trying to make it the honest way misses out on. Holy crap this is a reach. 'Instagram model' IS their job. No one's missing out on acting roles or runway modeling gigs because some IG model was willing to suck a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:09 AM
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I just said this to another poster but I think we've hit one of the major roadblocks in the misunderstandings that take place between RP and not-RP on this sub. A lot of RP posters seem to be explicitly posting in a 'I am not concerned with morality, this is purely about what helps men get laid/what is useful in terms of men getting laid" way and I would say, unless specifically asked, a huge proportion of non-RP posters are explicitly including moral concerns when they post. Of course there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 05:33 PM
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I often get replies of this nature on PPD - things along the lines of "but how is that useful to a man trying to get laid" - and that's fine, I'm not calling them out. I do think their illustrative of a perhaps broad misunderstanding between various PPD factions, though. I hardly ever post here with 'is this or is this not useful to a man trying to get laid' as the primary question in mind. Mostly because that simply isn't what I'm interested in - I'm not RP or male and I'm mostly not here to di…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 05:13 PM
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Take that up with the OP, I guess. There's a lot of confusion on definitions in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 03:47 AM
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Yeah but surely you can see what the OP meant. He was using 'unicorn' to mean 'good woman' at least from what I can tell from his descriptions of unicorns. Maybe he'll see this and clarify...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 03:13 AM
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I took /u/Justbeingme145 to be saying, basically, that good women exist. I didn't understand him to be saying "I am very young and in a 2 yr successful relationship and therefore good women exist." Also, I agree with him on his basic point. I think it's silly when Red Pillers start with the 'oh you may be happy now but just wait until she bangs your best friends and makes you raise a kid who isn't yours' stuff. Whether or not this guy's gf goes on to behave terribly doesn't really have any impac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 02:03 AM
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OK. I'm trying to understand. When you say 'sexual strategy' - what exactly do you mean? Because sexual strategy is not the same thing (imo) as the success (or not) of sexual strategy. Are you talking about the ideas contained in sexual strategy? The implementation of the ideas (i.e. action)? The discussion of the ideas? The question of whether or not Strategy X succeeds is, indeed, not moral. We can, of course, have a discussion about whether or not we feel the strategy is moral but its success…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 01:30 AM
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The jury's still out on OP Sure, he doesn't know what the future holds for him. But neither do you. This 'oh just you wait until she AWALTs the fuck out of you' responses from some RPs just make you guys look churlish and petty. There are a LOT of early-20s RP dudes on here - should we just write all of their opinions off based on their youth/lack of experience? or just the ones who disagree with Red Pill? TheRedPill is living in your head rent-free. Well, yes, I read and post on PPD so I do hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:30 PM
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Long hair can be used to cover-up or moderate lots of flaws. It's sort of like clothes for your face. Someone can look pretty good in clothes but then naked it can be a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:11 PM
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I know. It's so true. I generally try to let other people have their tastes without being judgey, because I know I have my own that others would perceive as weird or low-class but there are some things that I just can't help myself on. One of my most downvoted comments ever was bashing Ben and Jerry's ice cream but I just...like you said...no. Just no! You can't like that! It's not good! I don't care how many exotic fillings they put in it! It's bad ice-cream! I am judging you! I'm trying to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:07 PM
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I could work towards tolerance!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:04 PM
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I love horror movies but my issue is I can't watch them alone so I also need to convince ppl to watch them with me due to my being a chicken.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:03 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm aware of the fact that 99% of humanity is favourably predisposed to a good-looking person over an ugly one - it's just usually something that can be moderated with getting to know the person or working at some level of self-awareness that you're doing it. I get that that exists. My mom is just a total nazi about it, tho. Heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:01 PM
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Paul Haggis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:00 PM
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V-necks are fine - it's these trendy really - just wide and open - t-shirts on men that I can't deal with. That expanse of bare, flat chest just looks weirdly feminine to me, like my brain expects boobs or something. Body type doesn't matter, either, I think this look is bad on super skinny dudes and muscle-heads. I was just reading through this thread tho and saw your comment about not liking wide-faced men. Wide male faces are something I specifically like, although I should specify I mean wid…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:00 PM
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The 2004 film. Would never diss Cronenberg!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:56 PM
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Why? So you can tell him it's definitely going to fail when she cheats on him with Chad? Some of you Red Pills need to accept the fact that some relationships do actually work out and that they're not all hellish visions of female supremacy. (if that's where you're going with this)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:55 PM
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I have surfer-esque hair though Ugh. I am willing to overlook this, though, Hyperrreal, because I'm such a wonderful non-superficial person. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:21 PM
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It's even worse for women with that build than men. Big upper body and smaller lower body is a masculine body type to me. I went to highschool with a girl with that build and she was also six foot one. She didn't have a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:18 PM
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what are you, a genie? do you end in a little swish? Ah ha ha ha!! Awesome. Edit: I see others have already called out your hilarity. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:16 PM
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This isn't superficial at all, imo. Gigantic 'I suck' red flag right there. My mother will only watch tennis if the players are good looking, btw. She'll literally vocalize it. "I can't watch this, that woman is so ugly." If there's a beautiful/handsome player and an ugly one she openly cheers for the former. It's so weird, she seems to think it's quirky or cute, but it just makes her look like a total asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:15 PM
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I will seriously not be able to contain my rage/scorn if someone reveals that they liked that movie. I'm getting mad right now just thinking about the fact that they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:22 PM
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Well this is weird, now I'm sort of interested in feeling a stranger's skull.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:07 PM
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What are you saying? That a woman bringing up her feelings on issue X is somehow necessarily passive-aggressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:55 PM
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How do you know about the skull-shape? I always love it when male friends shave their heads or get very short cuts after having longer hair, because I get to check out their skulls. That might be a bit weird. And most women would be disqualified. I'd say less than 1% would be able to pull off bald/buzzcut and still look beautiful. There are supermodels who couldn't pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:53 PM
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I think Emma Watson is pretty. She isn't beautiful, but she's youthful and pretty. I don't mind her short hair but I'm a straight woman and I don't think of other women in the way straight men do. I prefer her with longer hair but that's just personal taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:52 PM
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The concern is mentioned with no facts, but instead with how she feels... Oh shit, Pem! We can't have that!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:46 PM
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bad oral hygiene liking the movie Crash finicky eating habits wide/deep necked thin t-shirts. you look like a damn girl (or gay).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:43 PM
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Not disagreeing (I would never disagree with you) but I feel like extremely short hair on a woman is a good test of true (i.e. not to do with makeup etc.) beauty. Only the most beautiful can pull it off. If I was a man I would make all my gfs shave their heads, check out the results, then keep the pretty ones and ask them to grow it out again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:41 PM
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I've never tried this. Generally stick with Maudite (which I am shocked to see has a high rating on that site - I'm a beer philistine and somehow assumed that the fact that I liked it meant it was lame) from Unibroue but now I might give cassis or poire a try. Pear beer? Sounds weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:34 PM
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I think women tend to be more doting to the ones they love. Men tend to be more sacrificial toward the ones they love. This is totally one of my thoughts, reading through this thread. Female expressions of love are often those small, daily caretaking/domestic tasks. I fuss over men I love in a really fine-grained way. Fix a stray hair he has sticking up, cook him something I know he loves if he had a bad day, make an effort to buy him the specific thing he likes from the specific bakery, enquire…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:27 PM
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"My husband is boring I just had a affair" That's low, man. Even for PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 02:58 AM
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You say you're a sweetheart and maybe you are (it's possible, I don't know you) but a weirdly high proportion of the men I've known that would describe themselves as a "sweetheart" or as a 'good guy' etc. were dicks. Now, keep in mind that this kind of self-description is, ime, somewhat rare, so my sample size is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:39 PM
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I often get the feeling from RP that what they crave is certainty. X is alpha. Y is not-alpha. As I said in my response to the OP, I think we're all going to have to accept (because there's really no alternative) that alpha is in the eye of the beholder. Something like violence can be alpha. But it can also be the opposite of alpha. It can signal strength, but it can also signal weakness, immaturity, low social status etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:30 PM
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It can be hard to analyze your own personal experiences from an objective unbiased perspective. and then...: But what if I told you that what you see is not what reality is like? Why are you - a stranger on the internet - more qualified to describe reality than me? Am I more subject to personal bias and the limits of personal POV than you? Are you able to analyze your experiences objectively? To what extent? To a greater extent than me? How can/do you know these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:19 PM
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I basically think that for the purposes of this sub we're going to have to accept something along the lines of 'alpha is in the eye of the beholder'. Without good faith (and even with it) it's hard sometimes when someone is offering a list of traits or descriptive words, to know that what that person is picturing in their mind when they say something like "good leader" is what I'm picturing in my mind when I hear it. There's also the fact that it's clearly more complex than (for example) violent…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:12 PM
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The perception of 'magnanimity' and whether it's 'alpha' or not is pretty interesting. We have RPer here (OP) claiming it's alpha (I agree) and a couple of blues saying otherwise. If you're interested, check out the link to a post I made linked by Hullmarch just above you. The comment section was a shitshow because we can't have nice things (or: conversation) here as often as I would like but the main opposition came from a blue and a red. It seems that magnanimity and whether it's alpha or not …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 06:59 PM
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The reason 'BBM' porn doesn't exist is the same reason that foot-fetish porn for women doesn't exist. Fetishism is male, not female. Also, OP, are you a robot?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:26 PM
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It fits you to create a narrative that makes women appear better than what they really are. Or I'm just being honest that my personal experiences do not reflect what you say about women. And once again, I don't need to read books to tell me how I am. You're clearly quite convinced you know how I am, though, aren't you? A person you've don't know anything about knows more about me that I know about myself. is there honestly no part of you that finds that somewhat absurd? What the hell happened to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:24 PM
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Goddamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:55 PM
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I am a woman. I don't need to read books about how I see men. Also, re: trolling - this is PPD and your opinion is extreme. Odds of trolling aren't low. It's fascinating how certain some people are about the contents of other's hearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:49 PM
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Hmmm. How about Passive-Aggression? I think that one smells like home cooking and poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 07:56 PM
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Not really, when you don't believe it's the truth. I can't tell if you're trolling or hyperbolizing or what. If you truly believe this then that sucks for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 07:47 PM
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Yeah. I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 06:42 PM
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So what do you think? That there's nothing inherent about attractive men that women are into? It's solely for the approval of other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 06:39 PM
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I was going to mention Angel. I remember when every single girl I knew was wearing that. Pink Sugar just literally smells like actual sugar to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 06:38 PM
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Alpha Male - Smells like testosterone and motor oil (blue collar version) or testosterone and crisp new bills (white collar version). Bottom notes of female submission. Female Imperative - I imagine this being very, very floral and oriental. Jasmine-heavy. Men would get flustered and confused and drop their wallets - and their self-respect - on the floor when they smelled it. I like this thread, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 05:16 PM
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I really want this to be true because I enjoy it very much when people wear perfume that contrasts their personality (not an insult, Pink Sugar is awful).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 05:11 PM
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Lots of perfume is just way too strong, imo. Some of them don't even need over-application, they're just naturally loud/overwhelming. If you ever come across the brand L'Artisan you might want to give them a sniff - most of their scents are quite subtle. There's one called Bois Farine I [articularly like, but even their florals are light and tolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 05:02 PM
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I love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:28 AM
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terps need more romantic poetry They do. More truth in one John Donne poem or Shakespearean sonnet or Yeats poem etc. etc. than there is in the entirety of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:26 AM
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Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:22 AM
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So do you acknowledge that putting his mom in prison would harm this kid at all? Same with paying damages - to what point? Would you support financially devastating her even it meant she became homeless or reliant on food banks etc. to feed/house etc. her kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 09:27 PM
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Men are just another accessory for women. Women are in social competition with other women, and that competition permeates all other aspects of their lives. Do you really think this? That a good bf/husband is just the same thing as a nice bag or car to women? Goddamn that is so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:01 PM
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we dont know that. Yeah, it's this. This is OP's explanation. Women want and need men just as much as men need and want women. We just don't want as much casual sex as men and yes, that has effects but overall, yeah, it's what you said - the complexity of human attraction, human emotion, human love etc., is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:00 PM
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I also think premeditated paternity fraud like this should be grounds for losing custody, especially if the conned father is willing to take on the child himself. You can't say you have the best interests of the child at heart when you willfully raise him under conditions of deceit. I agree with this. If biology doesn't matter for $ then why does it matter for custody? It's a travesty that this man has been denied even basic contact with the kid. Oh, yeah, he "doesn't want to". I wonder if his m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:24 PM
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I remember a convo awhile back on a related topic in which a RPer (more than one, actually) was clearly under the impression that the 'best interests of the child' thing was a cover for some of the people arguing against them/the 'female imperative'. I.e. that people in that thread didn't give a shit about the best interest's of any kid, nor did the legal system, and that it was just a dodge for the 'real' goal, which is female supremacy/male subjugation. Which, yeah, it seems batshit to me. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:17 PM
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Not familiar with UK law so commenting with that in mind. This man has clearly been wronged and I would be very surprised if anyone here disagrees with that. The 'best interests of the child' thing doesn't even really work here, either, because surely it was not in the best interests of the child to rip him away from his father figure at such a young age. Reading between the lines it seems that he's probably being told by his mother/bio-dad that his non-bio dad is a terrible person who he should…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:41 PM
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As usual Mr. Bayliss is making all kinds of wild assumptions about what other people can and can't understand or sympathize with (I submit that anyone who doesn't sympathize with this man grief and outrage has some kind of clinical condition that disallows them from feeling normal human emotions). The woman was convicted of 'Parental Deceit and Fraud' but the article makes no mention of what the punishment was. Basically, she and her husband/LTR (I don't think it mentions what he was?) went to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:21 PM
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Hyperrreal, u so stern. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:38 PM
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I think the point that RPW isn't the same thing as RP (in terms of being a 'how to extract the maximum amount of sex/$/resources etc. from the opposite sex' how-to). I mean, that's just true, no? On the other hand, maybe it isn't. I suppose you could also see RPW as even more mercenary than RP in some ways. I dunno. I'm interested in the fact that RPW is in some ways the opposite of the femme fatale - and that the femme fatale figure doesn't show up much around here in discussion. Maybe someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:56 PM
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A sarcastic/humorous response is more humane, instead of some pretentious reaction like a King looking at a peasent. I dont know. Being too pretentious can kick you in the butt. Yes, I agree. The fact that everyone perceives the alpha and non-alpha in that situation means the alpha rubbing it in just makes himself look like a jerk. Humane-ness is an alpha trait, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 02:53 AM
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You need to jerk off more, OP. Like, a lot more. Then, when you've expelled all the poison, come back and post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:17 PM
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There's no way to answer this other than the personal opinion way. There are so many variable at play here, too. Gender, age, personality etc. Not just of the 'alpha' but of the girls and the other dudes, too. So this is just my take on what an alpha would do. The fact that getting into a fistfight over a cafeteria seat is embarrassing bullshit outweighs all else here. And that said, there is a small proportion of women, generally college-aged or younger, who would probably enjoy it and may even…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:10 PM
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So I obviously have no idea if this whole thing would have played out any differently had it been a man calling in tears, screaming etc. and a woman cutting in calmly and telling emergency services that everything was fine but this thread, about taking women seriously when they cry for help, is currently in the negative votes. The other thread, titled exactly the same way but with 'men' instead of 'women', is at plus 12. Most of the top level responses here are basically "but women do bad things…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:38 PM
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I have no interest in having a man defer to me But they all do anyway wingnut, you fucking ninja.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 04:49 AM
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No confirmation either way from Archwinger, as I strongly suspected would be the case...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 04:31 AM
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Maybe it means something like 'if I was put in a very large room with 1000 men and we were all blindfolded + wearing noseplugs (so we can't smell each others pheromones) + using voice distorters and were then made to interact with each other for a month with no personal information given about the other person' it would be the dude I clicked with in that situation, who was into me without any information beyond our voice-distorted conversations. Ofc it doesn't work like that at all and you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 09:44 PM
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You're just a sweetie-pie, Guitars, aren't you? I hope you find your woman and get your dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 06:28 PM
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Charisma. Intelligence. Looks. Magnanimity. Confidence. Ability to make me his bitch. (in no particular order and off the top of my head)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 09:15 PM
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Oh dear, OP. You done riled 'em up good. My own reaction? If someone showed this to me without an author I would definitely assume parody. A lot of people here are doing as much. But the sub is headed by Archwinger. Who has repeatedly and non-jokingly stated that he is an actual misogynist. That complicates matters in a way a lot of ppl here are refusing to acknowledge. I mean, if I tell everyone straight-facedly that I hate black ppl because they're stupid and violent and then I make a subreddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 09:12 PM
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So is that sub parody or not? And if you're gonna refuse to give a straight answer, what would you say the percentages are? Like, 40% parody and 60% serious? 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 09:05 PM
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I go there for a laugh occasionally. Tut.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 09:04 PM
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OK, so. This dude is not a rapist - not based on this post, anyway. She consented so he's not a rapist. BUT. As to your other question - why is this post so popular. Well, you know why, don't you? Because it makes a lot of the people upvoting it feel better. It has a healthy dose of revenge fantasy thrown in, too. Remember when that chick treated you like dirt, used and abused you? Well now you're the one treating those bitches like shit! For real, though, this is some bad stuff. It's possible t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 08:13 PM
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In fact I recently made a thread bitching about TRP's overuse of the word cuck. Really? Well that's me told. I honestly thought you were red pill. Did you used to be red pill? Why is there something instead of nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:15 AM
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RP doesn't get to bitch about buzzwords. They just don't. Delete this post at once, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:04 AM
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Waaaait...who said anything about removing wedding rings? That changes the whole thing, dude, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:03 AM
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I can never REALLY be sad about hockey again because this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0W1MUv_c4 And I'm an Oilers fan so I'm used to hardship. Edit: Forgot what thread this was posted in. Ahem. SUUUUUCK MYYYY DIIIIIICK!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:02 AM
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Men spread rumors and gossip just as much as women, at least IME. Oh they TOTALLY do. That drama-loving personality is equally represented in men, imo. Often they're a little self-conscious about it or aware that it's thought of as 'feminine' though so they try to keep it on the down low a little. But damn have I known some men who gossiped like old ladies at a knitting circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 02:35 AM
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SUCK MY COCK, PEMBAYLISS.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 11:27 PM
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I generally agree that a lot of "cite scientific studies or stfu" is unhelpful for much of the debate going on here. The lack of these things doesn't necessarily = the person who can't provide them is automatically wrong. HOWEVER. What I see a lot of on PPD is certainty. And I'm not sure the certain people understand the difference between 'my opinion is fact' and 'this is what I believe and will try to back up in conversation, but I am open to other opinions and maybe even to altering my own ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 05:25 PM
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So...we agree? About NOW's position on women being drafted? Well fucking-A.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 01:21 AM
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I actually agree. But I do think Sardonis speaks in good faith, though, which means I can have a convo with him and will do so. But yes, I do think he's a misogynist (probably, I'd need to talk with him further, i'm just going off memory here).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 01:21 AM
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I completely agree. But I also know who Atlas is on this board as a PPD character. Her character really believes that you agree with her or you're stupid/wrong. There is literally no point to engaging with people who genuinely believe that. Smiley face there was a shrugging smiley, not a tacit approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 12:15 AM
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I'm sorry, this is becoming pointless. I stand by my description of my own reactions to men behaving kindly towards others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 12:09 AM
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Yes, they made it their official position in 1980. It is still their official position. In 2016. I'm sorry, but there is no way the official position of NOW on women being drafted isn't relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:59 PM
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That's not the same as being sexually attracted. If it doesn't lead to an increased inclination towards sex then it's not an example of kindness being attractive. No, it is. For me. It increases sexual attraction in certain contexts/cases. I never said it leads to more dudes getting laid. I don't approach strangers for sex, even if they're my physical ideal and wearing a sandwich board that says "desperate for sex". That isn't how most women operate. When I know a man and i see him treating othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:58 PM
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What's not funny? Atlas's comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:55 PM
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Heh. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:39 PM
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It's their stated position. That's all I was saying. I don't really know too much about what NOW is up to, maybe someone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:39 PM
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It was a step after the action I described. Yeah but I was originally responding to the OP who was talking about statements made by a Norwegian feminist organization. So if NOW's current stance on women being drafted along with men doesn't count, why does the current stance of the feminist organization in the OP count? Incorrect, it is about the sequence of events and reasoning behind what was done. Once again, this is not the discussion I'm having. I am discussing current feminist positions on …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:38 PM
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OP appears to be talking about modern times. That's what I'm talking about, too. That NOW statement appears to still be their official position. A discussion about past feminist factions and their varying takes on issue X is not what this convo is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:34 PM
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I tell you, this is one of the most maddening things about discussing these issues- Blues' perpetual confusion and conflation of comfort with sexual arousal. Goddamnit PemBayliss. I find kindness in certain contexts definitely enhances specifically physical/sexual attraction. In relationships and with strangers. A kind gesture in public from a stranger can instantly catch my eye when without it I probably wouldn't have looked twice at him. And FWIW most of these gestures are acts of kindness dir…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:28 PM
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Eh, that seems a little disingenuous on your part. A statement policy from NOW saying they support the inclusion of women on the same basis as men (whilst at the same time stating they oppose the draft in general) is definitely not "I want my civil rights but I don't want my civil duties." Opposing the draft for everyone, which is NOW's position, is not hypocritical, imo. Feminism is specifically a movement geared towards women's issues and women's empowerment. I don't see how this means NOW has…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:46 PM
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I don't know any of these people who you claim to be the "majority". That's fine. I wasn't trying to convince you based on anecdote, but I'm telling the truth - I only ever hear this talked about by feminists who want integration and those who oppose integration due to female frailty/incompetence. We non feminists are not dumb. Well, FWIW, I don't think non feminists are 'dumb' as a matter of course so you can stop worrying about that. I do think your usage of Norway as the example is a little n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:32 PM
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I wouldn't describe myself as feminist or anti-feminist but the vast majority of people I've seen advocating for women in the military in N. America have been overtly feminist. In fact it's one of only two contexts I tend to see on the subject matter: feminists calling for women to be fully integrated into the military and another group opposing female military integration due to a belief that woman are inherently bad at it. As for the "I'm against the draft in all forms" - that is a legit posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:15 PM
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The thing is: what you're dealing with are conflicting values. And with that I don't mean "your values" vs. "Sardonis' values" but the value of spousal fidelity vs. the value of personal freedom. But we're NOT dealing with 'spousal fidelity' here unless the person/people in the relationship believe we are. That's my whole point - just because you/person X sees this as a fidelity issue doesn't mean that other people do. I certainly don't. 'The fact of a spouse going to a nightclub is a fidelity i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:53 PM
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Ha ha, this genuinely made me laugh. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:41 PM
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I maybe should have been clearer in my OP but I was talking about good-faith-talking RPers. Like Sardonis. I wasn't talking about the blatant trolls/professional assholes. I get that you're trying to find common ground here between two sides but it's the golden mean fallacy. No. That is in no way what I'm doing. That would mean I was saying something like OK, Sardonis believes his wife going clubbing is disrespectful and Bloop X think it isn't disrespectful so the thruth must lie in between thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:32 PM
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OP, I don't think I agree with your post. Let me clarify. People reacting to emotional hostility from others with emotional hostility of their own (and let me say I'm talking about both groups here, not BP-only) isn't surprising. And a lot of that goes on here in PPD. Most armchair psychologists can apply a few minutes of thought and understand that part of it. But. You talk as if this is the only thing that's happening or could be happening. As if personal insecurity is the only reason to stron…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:03 PM
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I feel like debate on here would be a LOT more constructive and interesting if we allowed ourselves to trust what others said about their own motivations, as well as allowing ourselves to be questioned without getting offended or pissy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 01:51 AM
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I don't disagree. I don't consider myself qualified to be making pronouncements on 'optimal ways' and it surprises me when some people do (consider themselves qualified). This definitely wasn't intended to be some 'there's no right or wrong' type overarching statement supporting cultural or moral relativism. There are beliefs and acts I consider 'wrong' in something like an objective way. But the personal rules people apply to their own relationships generally aren't part of that to me, if both …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 01:45 AM
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And not all opinions/perceptions are valid. I feel like, for me, I probably make my decision here based at least partially on whether or not anyone is being coerced or browbeaten. If two people in a couple decide that wearing green shirts is disgusting and wrong and make rules about not wearing green shirts ever, I think that's wacky but have at it. It's when they step beyond the couple and start making pronouncements on green-shirt-wearing in the general populace that I'd have an issue. But I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 01:42 AM
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There's a difference between defining what you're comfortable with and thinking your comfort levels are accurate measures of someone else's motivations and intentions, and I do think that the latter is indicative of insecurity. Insecurity isn't inherently a bad thing, but you need to be able to understand the difference between when your SO is making you feel bad and when your own biases are making you feel bad or you risk alienating your SO if there's a boundary dispute that needs to be discuss…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 01:35 AM
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Well then you seem to be doing the right thing for yourself and living according to your own beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 01:32 AM
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it seems that some people have taken this question to mean that no one can ever be wrong about the decisions they make based on their perceptions I thought I might get some of that and, for the record, it isn't what I meant. There's a point between "allowing your spouse to go on a girls/boys night out is wrong" and "murdering your spouse is wrong" and everyone is gonna draw their lines in a slightly different place, although I suspect most will agree the murdering part is objectively wrong. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 01:31 AM
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That isn't statistics and you know it. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:58 PM
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AskTRP is a debate sub? I've never been there. Maybe I should check out femradebate, too? Also what's gotten into you? Are you actually just a normal person? Can't trolls just fucking SAY that they're trolls? FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:58 PM
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:D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:55 PM
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Our own beliefs and experiences shape our perception. Confirmation bias feeds this. Yes, agreed. But you then go straight to "my side is reasonable, the other side is arguing from emotion rather than fact." You're BOTH arguing from emotion/anecdote/personality/personal beliefs. it's way too easy to just assume that people who disagree with us are irrational. We're talking about relationships, romance, love, emotion, personal values. That's what my OP is about. It is a fact that Sardonis would fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:53 PM
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People bring their own baggage to these questions, and it causes them to interpret the questions differently. Sardonis and I read the same question about going clubbing, and he thought it involved a couple where the wife didn't want her husband to come, and I took it to mean he preferred to stay home. These different interpretations obviously lead to different answers. Yes, this. All it would take is a little good faith to get past these minor issues and onto meatier discussions, but we get hung…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:46 PM
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Can you give me an example? Are you talking about men going out with a single-sex group of friends, like to a strip club or something? I think I included that in my OP - I'm not talking solely about women clubbing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:43 PM
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I think you're correct though, at least in so much that we all have different views on what is and is not "acceptable" behavior within our own LTRs. Definitely. You've talked about what it's like where you live and it is extremely different here, where I live (a very liberal large city). Your take on clubbing and marriage here would get, at the very least, a roomful of sharply raised eyebrows. That doesn't mean you're wrong. We're from different places. We hang out in different crowds. I just th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:41 PM
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What statistics? You got stats on club grinding women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 06:26 PM
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I do not understand this joke. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:31 PM
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I'm not sure the Americans use 'yummy mummy' but maybe one of them will pipe up. As for the UK, 'yummy mummy' is definitely not a term associated with people/women on benefits or the lower classes. It's insulting not because they're poor but because they're basically being accused of being spoiled and vapid (i.e. the spare time and $ to afford to look great all the time).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:31 PM
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his eloquence You cannot be serious. But for real, the trolls on PPD are particularly unsubtle as of late.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:55 AM
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Jarl Trump? That dude is from Germany! offended
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 01:39 AM
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That dude's not using 'yummy mummy' correctly. It's a UK term used to refer to well-groomed/attractive mothers, almost always middle or above in class. Yummy mummies are specifically NOT on benefits and spend their days going to yoga classes and drinking green shakes. If you like 'yummy mummy' however, you may also like 'pram face' which is related but generally used to offend those of a lower social class. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 01:37 AM
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I've never branch-swung from one relationship to another and I haven't ever gone through a promiscuous/ONS phase. In terms of does a man have to be better than me, well, I'll start off by saying that I don't think RP has sufficiently explained or defended their 'hypergamy' theory and I don't think it's true. I do need to respect a man, though. And let me be clear - I need to respect a man to want a relationship with him. I do not need to respect him to find myself sexually attracted to him. Resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 05:44 AM
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Well, I don't agree with you on that but in more general terms I think it's mostly a cop-out for parents to blame society if their kid ends up fucked up or doing fucked up shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 05:36 AM
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Punch myself repeatedly in the face for raising a child who thinks having unprotected sex with criminals at 17 is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 03:54 AM
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I dunno. I find Cera genuinely fug. Emma Watson, sans make-up and styling, isn't fug imo. She'd be more average. Cera isn't a good comparison to Watson. Without makeup, one of them is average/above-average and the other has a genuinely unfortunate face.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:01 PM
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Are you single? No. What do you look for in a man? Intelligence, masculinity, emotional fortitude and rock-ness, ability to laugh at self and situations, healthy self worth. Do you think men should pay for the Check when out on a date with you? Yes but this is mostly theoretical, I don't really go on that kind of 'date' very often (i.e. with someone I barely know/a stranger). Also the whole 'he should pay' thing would be more of a shit test to see if he gets pissy about it. The way a person hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 05:32 PM
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This is the answer. Give OP that kind of 'attention' for a year and see if he still finds it so validating. And he's talking about online attention - the most meaningless kind of attention there is.It doesn't take long to get to the 'oh, this is about me - this about lots of men being horny and willing to stick it most female humans' stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 05:07 PM
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I don't have a Twitter account, it's just useful to find out if something is happening right away. It's instant. I always use it to find out if Minecraft is having issues, too. So many ppl are on it I knew if Reddit was fucked up probably a few people were going to be tweeting about it (and they were).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:56 AM
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FYI, Frenchie, if you want me to reply to this you're gonna have to post it again because Reddit fucked up and the comments weren't showing for like 2 hours so only me and you can see this, it doesn't show up in the thread. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:52 AM
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Make me. OK, but no. We're not going to be able to talk about this. I do not believe hypergamy is a thing like RP says it is, there's nowhere for us to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:50 AM
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That's what clued me in, too. Then I checked Twitter because I'm an internet detective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:48 AM
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puts shiny apple on /u/hyperrreal's desk Edit: Also, replies that came in during the outage still aren't showing, so any replies to replies you post now, now that comments seem to be working again, are still not showing. So convos that people still want to have need to be restarted if you started them during the fuckup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:47 AM
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OK, it appears comments are back but replies to comments that didn't show up (i.e. this) arte still not showing up, nor are the originals. So, uh, if you want to ask again I'll reply. FFS Reddit!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:47 AM
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testing...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:45 AM
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Well, I don't believe in hypergamy as RP sees it so, yeah. Nor do I know who Karen Owen is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:42 AM
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Fuck, I knew it was you. Troll Life 4Eva. Tell Nemesis he sucks a giant whale's cock for sending a woman to do his dirty work for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 12:59 AM
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Yep, it appears to be happening in another thread on PPD with someone who isn't me or you. I was wondering if we'd both been given some kind of smackdown ha ha. But now this feels like a private convo, like we can say anything. SUCK MY DIIIIIICK PEMBAYLISS!!!!!!!! Now insult me back!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 11:31 PM
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testing... Edit: so check it out, neither your comment nor mine are showing up in the thread. I have hailed a mod (it's happening to others, too) and will await instructions before replying. is Reddit going supernova? Have I angered the Internet Gods?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 11:28 PM
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Yeah wth is going on? Mine aren't either. Hyperrrrrreaaallllll!!!! /u/hyperreal help us! Edit: /u/hyperrreal halp!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 11:24 PM
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Did you delete this? I can't find it in the comments section any more...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 11:22 PM
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Well, see, now we have to decide if we're talking about theoretical RP or practical RP or some other version of it. Because RP is fucking slippery and willfully difficult to pin down and that makes it difficult to discuss. But, you asked so I'll give my honest take. I just see a difference between: My life isn't perfect. I have experienced perhaps an above-average level of negative interactions and disappointments in my interactions, especially romantic ones, with others. I resolve to make a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 11:21 PM
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Can purpley burpleys answer? I'm part blue... do you like being dominant in the bedroom? No. No part of me enjoys being dominant sexually. I don't even think I'd be able to do it if someone asked. How does this compare to how assertive you are in social situations? I don't know if I'm sub or dom, socially. Probably somewhere in the middle. There are two situations in which I think I could be described as 'assertive'; 1. in conversation (because I don't perceive disagreement as personal - in fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:13 PM
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Absolutely. This is why I prefaced my earlier paragraph with "The whole problem is that of only being able to experience one life and one perspective." OK, cool. Yeah, I wasn't sure what you meant there, tnx for clarifying. At the end of the day I am only me with my own experiences and I have to act and draw conclusions on those experiences. This is where we're gonna differ... I mean, do experiences matter? Yes, of course. Our experiences make us who we are in many ways. But we don't have to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 09:44 PM
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My cat's breath smells like cat food, Pem. Also, I disagree that TRP encourages real introspection. We are almost certainly not going to agree on this. So why don't we avoid a long and tedious exchange of messages and agree to disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 09:21 PM
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How do you mean? I definitely respect the latter (authentic non dominance) more than the former (fake dominance). Also, I have something for you. http://www.si.com/swimsuit/model/lily-aldridge/2016/photos?devicetype=default#1
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 09:19 PM
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Ah, OK. I thought you meant 'without anaethesia as a matter of course'. I mean, I deal with cleanings without being numbed (so brave!) but anything more than that ugh fuck no. And yes, it's definitely the anticipation of pain as well as, you know, the actual pain. I like going to the dentist and getting to lie there whilst things are done to me. It's relaxing and comforting. But I admit this is kind of weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 09:15 PM
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Two things. Do you accept that your experiences may not reflect wider experiences or truth? That personal experience doesn't necessarily = objective truth of the world? Re: TRP explaining things with such lucidity. Does this ever strike you as too-convenient at all? It does me, and not just from RP. You see this with human beings everywhere in all kinds of groups and individuals. It's that whole smelling-shit-all-day?-then-it-might-be-on-your-own-shoe thing. It's comforting and easy to view a sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 09:13 PM
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work without anesthesia wtf?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 08:51 PM
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It's super weird to me. I mean, I've had a few replies and I get that if I want Thing X more than all other things and Thing X preoccupies my thoughts constantly, I very well might be willing to do all sorts of shit to get Thing X. That said, spending your life pretending to be something you're fundamentally not seems a)sad and b)fucking exhausting. I just think about how I would feel if I had to act in a way that contradicts who I actually am on a fundamental level...that would suck and it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 06:26 PM
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You keep relating to BDSM. Not everyone is within that community. I appreciate that BDSM is on a contiuum and we all could fit somewhere on it. However, sex does not equal BDSM. ? Not sure where this is coming from. I "keep relating" to BDSM? You're replying to my first post in this thread and I'm not a BDSM practitioner/proselytiser. Simply put, sexual act for a stripper is about gathering resource (money). I also appreciate that there may be some special snowflakes out there that say they enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 06:22 PM
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I don't believe women want power from their sexual acts. You're kinda wrong about this. The example of a stripper was a good one. Female sexual power isn't the same as male sexual power, imo. That stripper isn't getting off on 'dominating' her her audience in a traditional BDSM way, it's different. But there's power there, and it's a very female variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 05:18 PM
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I find that when I'm in a relationship women want me to be the one in power. Actually, it's like some Red Pillers wanting their wive/gfs to want to fuck them rather than just duty-fucking them. For some women it's definitely more 'we want you to want to be in power' than 'we want you to be in duty-power.' I mean, what you say here is kind of depressing. You're acting like the leader even though it's not really what you want to do? I think there are lots of men who don't naturally crave the leade…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 05:14 PM
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Just Atlas fortifying her AMOG status. Am slightly disappointed in the mods for allowing it but at the same time also thinking maybe we need another purge week or something so we can all scream at those other people. Those other wrong people. You know who they are. They're the ones who disagree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:07 AM
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Insulting and swearing at a newborn baby. Frame = not held. Jfc what a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:06 AM
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Stop trying to compensate for your ugliness. Get a grip, bud. Edit: 1 downvote = 1 grip not held.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:04 AM
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telling a woman to put up with a man who is an obvious danger to his newborn? Tell me that didn't actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 12:46 AM
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Damn, Atlas. You've even got the PPD mods scurrying (and mods, tell me there was at least SOME scurrying occurring here, pls.).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 08:07 PM
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Well it seems I'm an outlier according to this thread but yeah, I have had the dick-size convo with female friends. It's usually part of a larger sex convo, it occurs between very close female friends only, and the tone of it is always light. It's not like we sit around with tape measures and take notes, it's not a serious thing. Also, these discussions are almost always of the "there was one guy..." type - i.e. we're not discussing the dick-size of male members of the social group - that would …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 05:35 PM
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Just reading through this thread, what a mess. If the mods have any interest in keeping bloopies around they need to do something about this kind of dogpiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 02:03 AM
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Your comment has lowered my self-esteem. I hope you're proud of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 01:53 AM
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See, I've seen a few other comments from you 'round here and they seemed non-jokey. But this all feels quite jokey. So I am going to assume joke. Also I'm not a communist I'm an anarcho-fascist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 01:37 AM
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Yeah, I don't even know why. You just come off, to me, as American. Your Ayn Rand-y flair probably also contributed to the impression although the only people who resemble right wing American cranks more than right-wing American cranks are often people from ex Soviet states. But Estonian, huh? That's interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 01:32 AM
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What percent of this comment is a joke? This sub needs to start requiring that this info be posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 01:28 AM
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OK, alreadyred, I went back through a day's worth of your comments and actually found two. So are you not American then? Or are you first gen American? I definitely think of you as American. Anyway, examples of Specific Instances In Which Alreadyred Sounded Like Maybe English Was Not His First Language: (this was the one I noticed yesterday): "But women get heart attacks less easily..." The word is "get" and the way you're using it. I often hear this off-kilter use of 'get' from non-mother-tongu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:44 PM
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Third favourite, eh? Third favourite. Inappropriate ranking of ice-cream making machine = red pill confirmed. I'm kidding. :) I support all efforts to make quality frozen dairy products within one's own home. If you can ever get your hands on any Jersey/Guernsey/Channel Islands milk, make some ice-cream with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:30 PM
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WHAT ABOUT THE BLONDE???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 12:53 AM
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33 and don't care how many women a dude has slept with. If he's hot af then he's hot af and nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 12:44 AM
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Well, redschool, I guess ice-cream is one thing in this universe that we can agree on. Also, do not take offense because this question is based on your usage of a single word in a different post of yours today, but is English not your first language (this is honestly not a passive-aggressive attempt to call you stupid, it was just this one word)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 12:28 AM
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Are you trolling me right now? Dude. You can do better than that. Look at Roosh and his worldwide headlines - and that guy sucks. You can definitely do better and media whore better. Btw, if you didn't bang the extremely stupid "We all love Ameerka" blonde you get a demerit. She had 'target' written all over her. Edit: You are adorable, though. Very pinchable cheeks and that shy little smile you have. Cuuuute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 12:25 AM
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he's better at it than most. No he isn't. He's just average. It's amazing how much he gets his cock sucked around this corner of Reddit, because he has always struck me as just a normal dude, with a normal amount of normal-style piss-taking. I think it's because an average dude 'round these parts can actually seem above-average due to the high presence of the socially differently-able. GLO is everydude. Aim higher, ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 08:17 PM
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Wrong, ice-cream amateurs. It's Haagen Daz or nothing because Ben and Jerry's sucks and anyone who disagrees with this opinion is a no-taste-having philistine who needs to go to a dark room and think about their life and their choices. Note: I'm only talking about regularly available choices. It's actually 'make it yourself' or 'Jeni's' but I don't think red pills are highbrow enough to care about the really important things. No offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 08:13 PM
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I did not say it never happens that way - I said I disagree it usually does. The bloop you're attempting to dress down was a)arguing against a specific post that seemed to be positing that, yes, submissiveness in women sexually is a reflection of their general nature (I think, it wasn't clear) AND b)then went on to say: I did not say it never happens that way - I said I disagree it usually does. That's not backtracking, it's clarification. We should welcome this in a debate sub, the clarificatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:18 PM
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I'm not Atlas, Frenchie. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 06:32 AM
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My "new definition" of what?? Lots of different opinions on this sub of what is and isn't masculine (if that's what I'm being accused of attempting to redefine, which I have to once again point out is not my aim - it's in the OP)...that's it. Differing opinions. No one here is the final arbiter of some objective definition of 'manliness'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 06:30 AM
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Changing the definition of what? Magnanimity? Or manliness? I just Googled this and the definition of manliness appears to be "the fact of being a man" and "traditional male qualities" - how am I changing the definitions? Note that in the OP I specifically pointed ouy that I was talking about my personal beliefs re: what makes a man stand out as manly/masculine/alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 05:31 AM
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I shouldn't have used 'alpha' - the word is near-useless but at the same time ubiquitous in this sub. Pls forgive a humble purple her bad word choice. I never thought much about manliness or magnanimity. Are these qualities that you would like to have as a man? Yes, I think manliness and magnanimity are awesome (i.e., in this context, masculine) in a man. I think they make a man more attractive to women. And I've been thinking about it because of this sub and the many different conceptions of 'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:42 AM
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masculine is dominant, aggressive, risk-taking, decisive. I agree. I also think magnanimity is a defining trait of manliness. Anyway, about those cats...?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:36 AM
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Because you're...wait for it...magnanimous? Can we at least agree that cats are bullshit?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:35 AM
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I'm talking about magnanimity, not anything else. Nothing about magnanimity implies "beholden" - in fact I would argue it's the opposite - it's the 'freely given'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:19 AM
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How about masculine then, since that's a word that we could probably look up a dictionary definition of? Or 'manly'? Is magnanimity masculine - or manly? Edit: but pls no dueling dictionaries!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:14 AM
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Really? I've never found Sean Connery sexy and it's weird, because on paper I should. I just...?? Maybe it's the beard? Even in his old Bond films I don't feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:11 AM
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Drok, there is no agreed-upon definition of 'alpha'. You can keep repeating that X belief on what traits are alpha is wrong, but this does just boil down to perception. If you don't think magnanimity is manly that's fine, I'm not trying to CYV, but this isn't a 'right' vs 'wrong' situation and it would be more interesting if we could talk about things like this on this sub without immediately having to declare the people who disagree with us as wrong or driven by feminine imperative etc. I find …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:58 AM
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Are you referring to my OP (it's cool if you are) re: 'glorifying alphas'? It's so difficult to talk about this stuff, especially something like 'alpha' where there can be wildly divergent views on what the meaning of the word is. Do you think of magnanimity as manly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:54 AM
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Those paragraphs are cut and pasted from Wikipedia. I fucked up the formatting, they were suposed to be listed under point 2, but they appear separate from it. I'll make a note in the OP of that. Anyway, are you saying that magnanimity is not masculine/manly/alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:52 AM
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I didn't see anything in any of the definitions or discussions of magnanimity that presupposed power or set it as a condition for magnanimity. Weakness and supplication are not magnanimity. We're going to have to either get into a very boring and typical PPD semantic discussion now or, I suppose, just leave it at 'agree to disagree'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:48 AM
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I was just joking around, Hyperreal! But yeah, I'll do the non-CMV/less definitive statement title next time. Thanks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:44 AM
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This is what I would expect a woman or BPer to think alpha is. The day you respond to me in good faith, and without an implied insult as your opening gambit...will be a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:56 PM
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See my response, above, to Atlas. supposed manly things that are looked down upon if they don't come from a position of power It's my contention that magnanimity isn't "supposedly" manly but that it is manly. And the power required to be magnanimous comes entirely from within. "Greatness of mind and heart." Very, very few women look down on magnanimity in a man. Also note sure why you're saying 'weakness' and 'neediness' are 'supposedly' manly, either. I don't think they are. In fact I think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:52 PM
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Thanks for thoughtful reply, Atlas (not sarcastic). As for this: they cant be "magnanimous" I'm not sure I agree. I don't think I entirely disagree, either, but magnanimity seems to be a trait that comes from within. it isn't about bank balance or muscles or height etc. Now, having those things may make a person more able or willing to be magnanimous but they're not necessary. Things like: the virtue of being great of mind and heart, a refusal to be petty, a willingness to face danger, and actio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:49 PM
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Wait. Does this mean I have to make a new post? I can't see how I can change the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:47 PM
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Will change title, tyrant. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:47 PM
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You should just move to the US. I squee every time I read one of your posts, that's how adorable your English is (not being patronizing, i mean it). "Principe" - D'awwww!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 09:09 PM
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The problem with #teamwoman and #teamman is that the division degrades the collective quality of the discussion and analysis. Well, yeah. So is this thread back up then? I was in the midst of drafting a strongly worded letter to the mods. ;) I stand by my comment here - this is standard when the genders are flipped and it's from RP (NARPALT, ofc). I rememeber seeing a comment last week from Archwinger re: women are stupid cunts. It stayed up, probably because it wasn't directed at a single poste…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 08:09 PM
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I live in a shit town I guess LOL. You probably don't. Absence of old money doesn't = 'shit.' :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:04 PM
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Switch the genders in the OP and this is standard, everyday red pill (on PPD) stuff. In fact it's slightly less inflammatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 03:09 AM
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He doesn't. I dunno, to be an alpha I think you need, primarily, to have lots of women trying to get into your pants. No women are trying to get into Trump's pants, including his wife. Look at his complex about his hands (wasn't he pissed about it over some comment that happened even before the campaign?) - he's so clearly bothered by it. That said, I hope he wins and any red pill who fails to vote for Trump is definitely a beta. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:35 AM
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At this point it has definitely become semantic. I'm arguing in good faith, I genuinely don't think 'it's overwhelmingly antagonistic' is accurate because of what I understand antagonistic to mean. I don't even think there's much disagreement going on here, nor do i think anyone would be able to properly back up a 'it's always black' or a 'it's always white' position on this matter. And if it's not always either of those things, it's grey, which is my point and not a very controversial one, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:48 PM
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I think it seems more like you don't like the negative connotation of the word. I knew it wouldn't take long for you to get here. I really don't think antagonistic is the correct word for it, not because I have bad feels about 'antagonistic' but because I just actually don't think it's always correct (grey, remember? I am NOT arguing for white and have repeatedly stated this). men get rejected a lot Yeah but some men hardly ever get rejected. From another post on PPD I'll use Gronk as an extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:45 PM
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See my response to alreadyredpill - I'm not claiming 'sameness'. I actually agree that the differences produce the desired result, in the sense that I think you intend it. I just don't think that necessarily = 'antagonistic' (esp. not as a rule).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:16 PM
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I think I am not seeing how 'antagonistic' = 'different'. The strategies are not the same. If my female strategy is 'have sex with high value man' and men have the same ('have sex with high value man') strategy, that clearly isn't going to work. Different is true, men and women have different strategies. But I don't think that necessarily supports 'antagonistic as a matter of course.' Antagonistic seems to imply working against each other ('s strategies) and yes, again, this certainly happens - …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:13 PM
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I don't deny that there are many aspects of male vs female strategy that ARE antagonistic - my point is definitely not that it's entirely harmonious (and I think I was clear about this from the start). It definitely depends on context and looks are part of that context. From a non-individual perspective, though, I do think it's fair to say that 'make babies' is a point of non-antagonism (in that it is both male and female strategy). Like, on a species or group level, men's AND women's biological…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:57 PM
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I am unfamiliar with 'control systems analysis' and if you want to discuss it with me you're going to have to explain, in further depth and in language a non-expert can understand, how it relates to the whole idea of male vs female sexual strategy (being antagonistic rather than harmonious or a mix of the two).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:50 PM
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If what you say (ugly men don't get to have children, they only get to raise the hot men's children) is true then yeah. But I don't believe this to be the case. The vast majority of men are NOT raising children that aren't biologically theirs (and the ones that are usually know it - i.e. stepdad situation and even then it's not the norm). I pretty much buy the assortative mating hypothesis here, more than I suspect RP does. But I'm not an expert in the field and my opinions here are just that: o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:46 PM
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there is nothing I can learn from him to be more alpha. Yeah, of course. That's true. I was answering the OP in a not-trying-to-be-specifically-useful way. It's entirely possible that that Bryce character is super cool in terms of character and personality. I'd probably fancy the pants off him if that was the case, too. But because I have no idea who he is, it's very difficult to give thoughtful responses on how alpha he is. I don't really follow the NFL but I saw Gronk on Top Chef and he had Pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:41 PM
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Simply stating it doesn't make it true. That's true, but it's also true for the 'black' or 'white' arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:34 PM
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Eh, I mean, I don't think anyone can deny that hot ppl have it a lot better in some ways but I don't really buy the narrative of hot ppl living life on easy mode (in a holistic, not-just-sexual-strategy way), I also know that no one here is interested in the trials and tribulations of hotties, though. Ultimately most of us want to have children - male and female - and most of us want those children to live healthy, fulfilled lives. In that very general sense, male and female sexual strategy IS a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:32 PM
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We're getting mixed up in who we're talking about, dude. I said in my previous post that Gronk is a freak - the 'typical' comment was directed at the other guy, Bryce Harper (thanks for link). And while I agree that Gronk would probably get laid even if he wasn't Gronk, I also think his personality helps. He IS very Chad-y, I agree, but he's alpha, too, imo. He radiates effortless 'I'm the man'-ness. In a dude that outlier-ish, goofiness (or other non-traditionally masculine traits) can actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:24 PM
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Or it's one of those things that, in reality, is probably neither black (male and female sexual strategies are mutually antagonistic) nor white (male and female sexual strategies are perfectly aligned and harmonious) but various shades of grey depending on context. And nobody likes grey, especially not ideologues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:14 PM
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Wait...are we talking about Gronk or the dude you linked to as 'alpha'? If it's the latter and he's famous, I don't know who he is. Link? I still don't think he's alpha AF. He's not physically intimidating/large enough (Gronk is, Gronk is a freak - in a good way) and he just looks like a hipster to me. I see dudes like that on the street multiple times a day. Edit: Gronk also has an alpha personality. I will be surprised if any woman denies that her panties would melt clean off in his presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:01 PM
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Strongly disagree with your 'alpha' example. That's a dude who's nothing special with a trendy hair arrangement, a Blue Steel expression and some gym-muscles. Gronk is alpha and I'd be surprised if anyone on PPD disagreed, regardless of pill. He is the definition of the word. All of this said, I think alpha/beta/omega are about a LOT more than what you can discern in a still pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:43 PM
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Female, purple. Would not LTR RP men but could be friends with them if they were of the chill variety/didn't think I was retarded because vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 03:39 AM
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Nope, I'm pretty sure that women marry men they find attractive. I don't know if you're new here or not and while I entirely agree with your point, it might help to know that this is literally one of the most controversial things you can say on PPD. A lot of people, and ol' Pem especially, are verrrrry invested in the idea of women being made to 'pay' (through having to marry a lame dude when they're over 30) for the sin of having sex with hot ppl when they're younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 12:01 AM
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Men will masturbate to still photos ffs!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 11:56 PM
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I'm not railing against anything or condemning anyone as a sinner. People can do what they like. All I'm saying is: if you wish to be treated with empathy by other human beings, you'd be well advised to also treat them with empathy. It simply doesn't work to expect empathy from people when you give none in return, that isn't how human interaction works. It's not irony, it's just the truth. I explicitly stated that Nora Vincent's experiences are valid. I'm curious as to how that's a lack of empat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:33 PM
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Let's be honest though, the average man has more going for him than the average woman. How does this happen? How does someone get to a place where the leap from "this is how I feel about X" to "how I feel about X is universally, objectively true" is seamless and seemingly unconscious? And then to accuse women of being boring and feeble. The (completely un-sensed) irony!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 06:55 AM
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I've seen a few testimonials (some on AskReddit, iirc) from female-to-male transgenders talking about their experiences with the negatives of being female. I remember a common thread being that they weren't taken as seriously after transitioning and their words weren't given as much weight as they had been when they were male. Those experiences count, as do Nora Vincent's. Until you and your ilk are ready to accept all personal accounts of transgendered people, you're not allowed to choose only …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 06:52 AM
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From the linked post: Women are consumers And one sentence later: They're baby making machines Some might say that women are the ultimate creators (or, in RP parlance, 'producers'). ;) He goes on the lament the 'female consumer culture' which...man, are they getting even stupider? 'Consumer culture' is not gendered. There are consumer cultures and there are arguably many non-consumer cultures and neither of them are marked by being all/mostly women or all/mostly men. The USA is obvs. the poster …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 06:42 AM
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Good luck, OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:10 PM
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if you took your average man and made him a woman of the same level of attractiveness and did the same with a woman, you'd no doubt find that the man would find life easier after getting used to it a bit and the woman wouldn't stand a chance. You guys can keep repeating this until the cows come home, but the truth is, you can't know this. The OP is right. It's a basic failure of empathy and coming from the RP crowd who post here, and who I strongly suspect have an average position on the spectru…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:08 PM
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I've thought about this before and I would venture to guess that most RPs are working class or middle class with most of them probably being lower middle. I also think they focus in very, very tightly on a specific female demographic (very young, promiscuous) and lose sight of what occurs outside that narrow perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 12:55 AM
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despite knowing girls that think he is attractive he goes home alone every night, way to white knighty and beta. But is this because this guy somehow thinks that muscular, square-jawed men who dress sharply aren't attractive or is this almost entirely about personality issues? It's the latter, isn't it? And you're saying that's what RP helps with. I mean, OK. But people still know what's attractive and what isn't. They might be confused about how to get there themselves, but they know what it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 12:51 AM
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I find that women very much enjoy the thought of their own sexual power. I don't disagree with this. I think most people would love to be thought of as very sexually attractive to the opposite sex. And yes, I include women in that. But I just think the Lewinski lipstick thing is a very bad example. She was and is not a figure women wanted to 'be'. She was some trashy, laughingstock bimbo who got played by a powerful older man. Everyone sort of knew the truth of it - that he went for her because …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 12:46 AM
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Yeah, that's possible too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 12:42 AM
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This is an interesting convo. I think a major flaw in RP is their leaving-out of class issues, for sure. It happens very often that I read comments from RPer and think 'this dude has apparently only interested with trashy women'. And we often associate 'trashy' with 'poor' But when you think about it, it's just a lot easier to disguise inherent trashiness/character issues if you have money than if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 12:36 AM
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I respectfully think you're missing something, too. There's probably a number of reasons why women tend to go into fields that are less likely to involve 80+ hour weeks but I bet a big one is children. Even during undergrad, most women know that if they ever have a family, the burden of caring for the children is largely going to fall on their shoulders. And most men know the burden of providing financially for those children is going to fall on theirs. Women generally want careers that are goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 06:27 PM
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Can I ask you a question? Do you really believe that unattractive people (or a significant proportion of them) are unattractive because they don't know what's attractive? I mean, imo, it's much more likely to be that they're too lazy or depressed to do anything about their unattractiveness than that they don't know what it is. Both sexes are absolutely surrounded with images of and portrayals of attractive people. If a person has access to the internet and/or leaves the house more than once a we…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 05:51 PM
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Ugh, why so slippery? I'm not arguing with this guy re: do women find powerful men attractive or not (for the record, and accepting that we would have to have a discussion about what a 'powerful' man is to be clearer on the subject, yes, I do think women like powerful men). I'm arguing with him re: did women covet Monica Lewinski's lipstick because they thought it was somehow going to get them closer to alpha D or because they just thought it was a really great shade of lipstick? I think it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 05:47 PM
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Can't tell if serious or if using feminism's own stick to poke feminists with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:47 PM
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Dude, what? I literally just said that 'neither of us can know'. I didn't say anything about women being blank slates - we're just differing on what we think was driving the women who wanted the lipstick. And neither of us can 'prove' it in any way. And please don't do that 'my red pill theories are too offensive to your delicate female mind' jerk-off thing, either. They're not offensive. I just don't think they're correct. And it's really not a huge issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:24 PM
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Well, apparently not. You goddamned convo-dodging, Feynman-anecdote-linking verysmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 08:57 PM
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It's informed speculation. Well, if by 'informed speculation' you mean 'what gainzndamez thinks'. Neither of us can know what those women wanted that lipstick for. My take on it is they probably just thought it looked good (which it did). I often see a certain shade of blush or a pair of shoes in some photo from the media and actually try and track the item down because...I like them and think they look nice. But I could be wrong. We can't know the answer to this. Your thoughts just, to me, real…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 08:13 PM
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So yeah, this is about wanting to blow the President of the United States of America, not finding the most perfect shade of taupe. You literally have nothing to back this up. It's pure speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 07:35 PM
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Dude, no. Being able to provide the bare minimum in terms of food, education etc. to your kids is demonstrably not as good as being able to send them to the best private school and make sure they only eat the healthiest, freshest food. And that's not the least of it. Children of wealthy parents do MUCH better than the children of poor parents, even if the poor parents manage to keep them fed and bundled off to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 07:33 PM
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Do you think there's any chance at all that a lot of women just thought the lipstick Monica L wore looked really good and wanted it for that reason? You think it was more or less than the ones who wanted it because they were dreaming about sucking presidential D?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 06:21 PM
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Heroism of the running into burning building variety is some manly shit (and fwiw I think women are capable of this kind of manliness, too, I just perceive it as a 'manly' virtue). That's, like, the opposite of toxic masculinity, imo. My reaction to that is a kind of 'oh my god, THAT is a man' thing. Visceral, feelsy reaction but still, my honest reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 09:22 PM
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Bitch better give me mah gold star.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 07:56 PM
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The OP specifically asked for responses on whether or not people feel/think/believe etc. that it's acceptable...?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 07:11 PM
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No. Innocent people going to prison is never acceptable. That said, innocent people do go to prison because the justice system is overseen by humans and humans are flawed. But I feel like you're asking something slightly different...you're asking if 11 people go to prison for rape (for example) and one is innocent, that his imprisonment is 'acceptable' because 10 actual-rapists also went and the cost of one innocent man imprisoned is worth paying? The answer to that is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 06:29 PM
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Care to make this interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:45 AM
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Yeah, you're right that it's not morbidly obese female leads. I guess I was just going along with more ambiguous 'fat'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:37 AM
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Dude. This: the thought of deferring to someone simply because I am a woman and am somehow less capable due to it, leaves a bad taste from my mouth is not the same statement as this: when you don't get your way in a difference of opinion you are unsatisfied with the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:33 AM
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I don't know why PNR has become the standard fat girl genre, but it has. I think it has something to do with those beefy werebears making them feel all small and safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:31 AM
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All romance is fantasy. Sometimes this sub forgets that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:28 AM
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Yeah. I mean, as a Canadian (i.e. as a person whose conservative politicians are to the left of your liberal ones) I probably prefer Sanders' policies to anyone else's but I do think he was unelectable in terms of the big prize. The US just isn't going to let anyone they perceive as anything close to 'socialist' near the White House, not without some major shifts. Hilary is the right pick if the dems want to have a chance to win, but I agree she's a slimy slimeball like her sexy husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:27 AM
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Well, define popular. It sells like hotcakes and is a known big sales niche within romance. Romance is the biggest selling genre of fiction, too. Edit: I reread and now suspect you were agreeing with me? I'm too giddy from Super Tuesday. Also female so, you know, brain issues etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:18 AM
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Imo, Bernie is completely DONE.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:13 AM
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Hot lady gets everything she wants in a man: butthurt. Fugly lady gets everything she wants in a man: OUTRAGE. Lots of people in this thread unaware of how popular fat chick romance is, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:12 AM
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There's a LOT of fat-lady romance out there, it's rather popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:10 AM
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Imo the only Republican with a chance against Hilary is Rubio. And everyone hates Hilary, so ... yeah, the Republican party is a shitshow. They brought Trump on themselves, the dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:08 AM
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Can't CMV because I think it's obviously more than looks/genetics. although looks count too. This whole 'genetic trash' thing is funny because all these genetic trashers, you know, exist. So in a pretty solid sense their existence means they're specifically NOT genetic trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:06 AM
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Sanders vs Cruz for the presidency would have been awesome. America might have imploded. But it's clearly gonna be Hilary vs probably Trump, if he can manage not to get fucked over by the Republican establishment/media too badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:58 AM
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How do you feel about tonight? I'm still worried about Rubio and for that reason I'm glad Cruz won Texas, because it means he's gonna stay in (at least for now) and help to keep the non-Trump votes split.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:57 AM
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Really? I thought black ppl liked Hil and Bernie was beloved by white dudes? I've actually seen a few professed black people getting into slapfights with Berniebros on Reddit/the internet in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:07 AM
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Can we talk about politics tonight? I REALLY want to talk about politics with red pills right now. Pls pls pls mods pls. Blue Pill hates Donald Trump!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:50 AM
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"Who's this retarded asshole, then? And why is she staring at my package?" Naw, I don't know. I mean, I know how I want to come across, but who knows if I consistently actually succeed in doing that. Depending on whether or not I talk to this first-impression-getting person would also affect it, imo. Talking to them they'd probably think I was extroverted and friendly. Not talking to them, ehhhh, I'm blonde, I like fashion and I have unwieldy tits (don't be jelly, I'm also fug). So sometimes I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:14 PM
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Please note that I wasn't advocating with my post. It's not a 'you should do this' statement. It's more a 'well if you fucked 100 dudes and met Mr. Alpha at 30, but Mr. Alpha doesn't like slutty sluts, then one option would be to conceal your count from him.' It's academic for me because I wouldn't be seeking marriage with a dude who was super bothered by N count. I thought you were RP, btw? I'm assuming now that I was wrong, due to commentary re: morals and being true to yourself. I hope you st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:49 AM
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one of the most important concepts for women to understand is to not be a slut. Naw, it's more nuanced than this. One of the most important concepts is to not appear to be a slut, and only then to the kind of men who would put the nix on a relationship due to perceived sluttery (which isn't all men or even most, imo, esp. if a woman is attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:35 AM
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Hot girls have feeling and preferences, too. Riiiiiight. Hot girls are all psychos. Fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:33 AM
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use actual examples Why? As to the question of whether or not men are more or less 'logical' than women, individual examples are basically worthless. A claim like that is so insanely broad that the kind of evidence required to prove it is way beyond the capacity of anyone posting here (if it's even possible to prove at all). Dear People Who Think They Or The Group They Belong To Is More Logical/Rational Than The Members Of That Other Group: Believing you're more logical than others doesn't in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:42 AM
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This is amazing. And not in a good way. You actually...you actually believe all this, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:32 AM
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If I was your Dad, Xemnas, I'd kick your ass out. Why not make the poor man a nice cup of tea and stop badgering him with your stupid internet bullcrap? Edit: Also, what energyvolley said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 11:05 PM
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"there's something off about whites." Oh come onnn. U trollin' with this. The only person I've ever known who talks like that is Atlas off of PPD on the internet. And most of the people I know/have known are white and wouldn't know the difference between a Tatar eye fold and an Arizonan gut-hang.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 07:16 PM
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This actually happened. And it was kind of amazing because it was a really incontrovertible 'holy shit' moment for a lot of white ppl, including me. I used to be one of those 'yeah, some people are racist but they only exist in trailer parks in Arkansas and racism is mostly a Bad Thing of the past' types, when I was a)a lot younger and b)had never really known any non-white, non-UMC-Asians. When that happened to Oprah I was shocked and the total lack of shock from a lot of non-white people was o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:57 PM
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trying to relate to whites what your life experiences are I think this is true of a LOT of different people. The same difficulty-with-accepting-alternating-experiences is seen in different races, different sexes, different cultures etc. But there are a number of edgy racists on this sub (and Reddit and the internet in general) who, I dunno, I hope no one is taking them as some kind of 'default white person.'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:54 PM
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For real? You're a young male human and you find porn disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 02:15 AM
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First time you've seen someone bring up that women have an equal capacity to men to be assholes? Or that hot doesn't necessarily = asshole and not-hot doesn't necessarily = nice person? I feel like the former is brought up a lot (by blues esp.) and the second, I'm pretty sure it's kind of a given for most of us. Maybe not for all 18 y.o. dudes who are all boobmatized, tho. I read the link. That's the Models guy, right? Haven't actuallt read anything by him before but I have a good impression bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 10:04 PM
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First time you've seen someone bring up that women have an equal capacity to men to be assholes? Or that hot doesn't necessarily = asshole and not-hot doesn't necessarily = nice person? I feel like the former is brought up a lot (by blues esp.) and the second, I'm pretty sure it's kind of a given for most of us. Maybe not for all 18 y.o. dudes who are all boobmatized, tho. I read the link. That's the Models guy, right? Haven't actuallt read anything by him before but I have a good impression bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 10:04 PM
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Maybe-bae lifts, but it's mostly heavy boxes of produce and huge stockpots. He also rides his bike fucking everywhere, even in winter (trying to put a stop to this but not currently in a power position so that's in the works). He's tall, muscular (NOT gym-bunny muscular) and leaner than I usually go for, but he still has broad shoulders and a manly chest so...yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:07 PM
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No. No. And: hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:04 PM
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Can purples answer? I m trying to think of what I'd say to a clueless 18 yr old. A clueless 18 yr old IS a much easier-to-help prospect than a clueless 30 yr old, though. Less baggage plus he's going to be dealing mostly with women his age, who are mostly going to be equally clueless and inexperienced, which makes his job easier. I guess I'd say: Women are human and humans have the capacity to be self-deluded and selfish. I would advise a clueless man to be careful not to assume that a pretty fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:01 PM
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The answer to this question is, for me, more complicated than 'a high N is attractive' vs 'a high N is unattractive'. The ability to bang a lot of high quality women combined with not banging a lot of women is much, much more attractive to me than a high N because he can. And all of this depends on the individual man. If he's sleeping around because he can and for no other real reason, that's not a positive, imo (it's not necessarily a dealbreaker but it's not a positive). I appreciate men with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:53 PM
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Actually I have a degree in philosophy You don't talk like someone with a degree in philosophy, you know. In no way do you come off as a nuanced thinker, Cis. It sounds to me like you've probably read a couple of Wikipedia articles and incorporated the big words into some of your posts here. Of course, I could be wrong. But a lot of what you post is pure dogma. "Men aren't solipsists." Oh, really? When was that established? How was it established? Sometimes I think you (and a few others on PPD) …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:55 PM
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Yeah I just went and read it back and it is worded very badly. Sorry bout that. I'll leave it as is, though, because anyone reading will see this exchange and know what i meant. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:07 PM
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Some examples of 'obvious parts': - women are attracted to confident, masculine men - women are not attracted to weak, supplicating men - not being a bitch in your interactions with others will improve your life - looks matter Ridiculous Bullshit: - hypergamy as RP describes it (and if anyone wishes to discuss this further imma need a succinct, short definition of 'hypergamy' as you're using it) - women as inherently less mature/intelligent/emotionally capable/rational than men - alpha fucks/bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:43 PM
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Hey OP. Never seen you around here before but I think I pretty much agree with you. I had a very long discussion about this case with female friends last week and the topic was how odd we felt about how it was all going down. Basically, it looks like either the women let themselves down or their lawyers did (I don't know who is representing Lucy D. or any of the others - is it the same person? and is it some 'feminist' lawyer? someone who may have encouraged them to go to court without properly …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:09 PM
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Bdsm is fine, and women prefer this to any other type of sex, it is the most normal form of sex. That isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 06:44 PM
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For me it means I don't believe I live in a rape culture and I do believe some arms of feminism are attempting to infantilize women and shut down those who disagree with them. It also means I think the non-obvious parts of RP (the parts that you often see commented on in PPD as "that's not RP, most people know damn well that's true/obvious") are ridiculous bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 06:38 PM
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Where in that exchange did anyone say "you can't judge women for their actions"? Is it further up? As I said here a few days ago, not understanding what an analogy is and thinking a given analogy is weak are two different things. Note that I am neither supporting or condemning a belief that analogy X is weak, I'm just pointing out that it's entirely possible to view said analogy as weak (or strong) without misunderstanding or not knowing what an analogy is. Also, come on. Comparing women to pets…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 06:31 PM
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It was just a joke! Like on Top Gear!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:27 PM
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Purple wrapper or fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:18 PM
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Omg "muppet" is my favrit light insult!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:36 AM
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And neither of those things is: "attractiveness is all that matters to LTRs and marriage" which is what you originally accused me of saying. Stop it, Pem. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:41 PM
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All I'm saying is that your first hypo is just that - hypothetical. Sure it happens sometimes in the real world, but not nearly as often as you'd like. That's not "fairness" or "rankling"; that's just reality. They're both hypotheticals. And I said absolutely nothing about wanting one or the other to happen more/less in the real world. In many ways I think it would be great if things were more fair, but I acknowledge that they aren't. Aren't you Red Pill? I mean, do you disagree that hot women (…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:35 PM
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So you're now extending your "attractiveness is all that matters" to LTRs and marriage too. I thought you'd get there eventually, despite your denials a few days ago. No. That isn't what I'm saying. All I said was that hotness in a woman means she is able to get away with a LOT more than she would if she wasn't hot. I didn't say hotness is all that matters. Stop putting words in my mouth. If you continue to do so, I won't engage further. First scenario, nope, she marries a high value dude. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:18 PM
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I have two scenarios. Woman sleeps around a lot during college, parties, drinks, has fun. A few short term relationships, uses a few 'betas' for rides, beer, attention etc, breaks a few hearts. Gets degree and starts working in her preferred field. Turns 30, starts to think about settling down, having a family. Meets a good-looking, high-earning man at work. She's very attracted to him, he's very attracted to her. They start dating, he proposes a year later, they get married and she's pregnant s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:10 PM
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Love the replies you're getting to this. I've never been asked, either. I don't think it's weird or uncommon not to be asked. But the implications! The men you/we/women who haven't been asked pick have no self-respect. Or we're sluts and men can tell. Or our LTRs/marriages are obviously doomed due to these no-self-respect-having men not asking for numbers. Good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 08:58 PM
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Yeah, i recognize a general truth in what you're saying about your first marriage. To be clear, I don't think that situation (resentful wife doesn't feel like having sex with hubby, hubby doesn't feel like being supportive and understanding because he isn't getting laid) is somehow the man's fault. It both of their faults and it's also something that's probably not that easy to fix (resenting your partner does little to motivate you to fulfill their needs because one is too busy being mad becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:51 PM
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It's very, very difficult to raise children on a single, average income. Everyone I know with small children would rather stay home when they're small but can't afford to because the father's wage isn't enough on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:54 PM
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I generally enjoy your often well-thought-out posts on this sub but I think you're not entirely right about: being passive-aggressive and making it out to be "you just want me for sex" That's definitely a real thing for women. It's not (necessarily) concealing some other issue (not to say a dude getting fat might not kill some attraction but that strikes me as a very male idea about what kills attraction), it can definitely be a straight-up true statement of feelings. This is one of those things…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:47 PM
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be recognised by others as, better than others, which leads this into narcissism. OK, I can see how this would be an aspect of narcissism but I don't think it's inherently narcissistic. I suppose it depends on circumstances and context. Wanting to be the best/fastest at running 100m and to be recognized for that isn't inherently narcissistic, imo. But believing that running 100m faster than anyone else (or being better looking than anyone else or having a higher degree etc. etc.) makes you 'bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:29 PM
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Xemnas, how is wanting to be attractive to others and putting effort into it 'narcissism' to you? That...isn't the meaning of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:16 PM
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You, OP, are the Edgiest Edgeman Who Ever Edged In Edgeville.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 05:31 PM
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OP, can you give me a brief definition of 'mansplaining' as you understand it? Not why people do it or why people accuse others of doing it or whether or not you think it's a good thing, but just the actual definition of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 09:15 PM
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How is that solipsism? At no point did I make any kind of 'it happens to me so it must happen to all women' statement. The discussion is about the 'x factor' and you asserted that it was a male thing. As a non-male, I figured my experience of this x-factor might be relevant to the discussion. Terrible response from you, btw. Why do you even participate in discussions if you're not interested in hearing from anyone whose opinion or experience differs from yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 06:42 PM
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A few women I've known in my 45 years just "grab" and "hold" my attention, which if you knew me you would understand is a VERY rare thing. Yes, this is an excellent description of it. It's rare, but when it happens it feels entirely uncontrollable and it doesn't need to involve any getting to know the person (not at first). I've felt that. Just sudden, extreme attraction to a man that, had I been shown a still photo of him I wouldn't have looked twice at. If it isn't chemical, I don't know what …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 06:31 PM
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I think you'll find the x factor phenomenon is pretty exclusive to men. The confidence with which people assert things like this on this sub is just odd. I'm female. The x factor thing has happened to me a few times. I have even talked about it before on this sub. It does happen to women. I'm sorry, but it's just that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 06:28 PM
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And look at the responses! Do these people think anyone who ever fought for their rights/freedoms/dignity just shrugged and gave up at the first setback? Where were they when this guy needed funding and emotional support? It's fucking mind-blowing. If the MRM is ever going to achieve anything the first thing they need to do is stiffen their spines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 06:22 PM
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My tone was light, yes, but I'm also increasingly aware of the fact that you can't really convey tone on the internet so I was also genuinely trying to get across that I was using 'hate' casually and not in the 'people who take jokes literally make me shake and foam at the mouth with rage' way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 07:48 PM
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MRM needs way, WAY better PR as an urgent priority. For example, you know what would work better than shouting about the lack of shelters for male DV victims? Getting together and opening a shelter for male DV victims. Volunteering your time, effort and $ to open it. Then get a good PR firm to make a short doc about the men there portraying them as human and sympathetic. At no point should you badmouth women or feminism during this process. Emphasize it's about men helping men. You need public s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 12:49 AM
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Why should AWALT suddenly apply to relationships? Are you gaslighting me? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:42 PM
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I'm really not too worried about whether I'm right or wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:54 PM
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AWALT is mostly something for one night stands OK. That's the first time I'm hearing this from RP. If that's true, if AWALT is about ONS only, that changes a number of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:51 PM
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What are the chances you're wrong, or partially wrong? What are the chances you're influenced by certain forms of bias? What are the chances you've misinterpreted some things or behaviours etc.? How certain are you? 100%? 90%? 65%?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:44 PM
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When that dumb whore decides to call us. /butthurt
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:37 PM
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This. A sense of humour is very, very important to me, too. And it goes for friends and other non-sexual relationships as well. There's something about humourless people that just makes me not want to hang around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:32 PM
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Pem, when u gonna stop telling other ppl what they're attracted to, man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:31 PM
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every time I said something that was intended as a joke, she would take it 100% literally. I hate this. Edit: 'hate' is a strong word. I personally disapprove of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:30 PM
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OP, if you could bang a 3/10 or a 8/10, which would you choose? There you go. That's your answer. If you're mad about this, take it up with thirsty men, not unattractive women. You'd do exactly the same in their position (although I do question the RP narrative that fugly women are regularly getting with alpha-Chads).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:28 AM
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9vz_NfXS7Hg/hqdefault.jpg (I have chosen UK special forces out of cultural sensitivity)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:25 AM
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I resent that this place confirms to me things about reality that my therapists will flat out lie to my face about. Does any part of accept that every person's outlook on life is necessarily and unavoidably subjective? Do you understand that those therapists probably truly believe what they tell you about 'reality'? You're doing that thing where you ascribe rightness/wrongness of another person's opinion based on how closely it hews to your own. I think that's generally a bad idea. Oh and the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:15 AM
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Ugh, Xemnas. Being a fuckup is one thing. Actively understanding that you're a fuckup whilst continuing to reinforce your own fuckuppery is quite another. I come here for distraction or when I'm bored but at this point I expect force of habit plays a large role. I'm not proud of hanging out here but there's something easy about it, if that makes sense. Intellectual laziness? That might be a reason. Being a bit of a bad person? That, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:28 PM
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Yeah, Chad-Mart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:18 PM
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I spent all mine at Chad-Mart. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:15 PM
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Everyone gets a payoff from it. Everyone is running from something. And everyone needs somewhere to vent Oh Xemnas, really? Is this good enough - and I mean good enough for you? Come on, spell this out. You get something from this? Something good? What's that? I agree that everyone is running from something (well, if by 'running from something' you mean 'has issues') but I'm in no way sure that wallowing in said issues is a healthy way to deal with them. I'll answer your question after you answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:01 PM
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OK. I mean, if that's how you do things, I believe you. But in general RP absolutely reeks of fear. The constant, OTT attempts to never, never, never show weakness etc. all seem on their face to be the reactions of men who are deeply scared of being hurt by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:22 PM
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Emotional safety? Psychological safety? I dunno, the whole 'women as loaded guns in order to protect oneself from harm' thing definitely speaks, imo, to an overdeveloped desire for safety in some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 07:58 PM
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Roosh is pure troll. I don't even believe this guy has had 3% of the sex he says he has. Also, he says shit like he did in that blog post because he knows it's going to cause outrage. There is literally no other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 07:26 PM
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The fact that RP thinks Dan Bilzerian is 'alpha' is mind-boggling. Every time I see him brought up as an example of high-status male I just shake my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 07:09 PM
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How can you be so plainly aware of this and keep doing it anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:59 PM
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Things that are different: believing an analogy to be weak not understanding what an analogy is
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:27 PM
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It's not always bullshit. I'd say the younger a woman is the less likely it is she realizes her 'orbiters' are trying to get her into bed. I was in my twenties before I realized this. I mean, it's one of those 'can't unsee' things. Once you see it you look back and go ohhh, so that's why X, Y, Z. But before you see it...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:13 PM
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You see sexuality and personhood in women as two completely separate thing - if a woman chooses one, she can't have another. No, no I don't. And I'm not sure what point you're making here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:05 PM
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Into the volcano with you and all the other puppy-hating psychos!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 10:00 PM
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Does this not count as pieces of meat? What do you think? Do you think that wearing a miniskirt and grinding on a guy in a nightclub is an overt "I am nothing more than a piece of meat" statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:43 PM
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I don't really like puppies You're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:29 PM
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I've found myself in that place before on PPD. Try to have interesting discussion, get told I don't know myself/am retarded female, give up and go sarky troll mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:28 PM
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Even puppies cannot fix some conundrums. Blatant lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:27 PM
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Pem. You're like the pigeon on the chessboard. This is just "not even wrong" territory, which is where it always ends up, eventually, when you're involved. The USSR was communist. Greece was not a country that was run in the way Canada (for example) is run. If I decide not to pay my taxes, I go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:30 PM
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If Trump got it then it would be a colossal embarrassment for the GOP. I just don't see it happening. Agreed. That's why it would be so funny. There's no way Trump gets the nom (unfortunately). I don't think Cruz will get it, either. I think the Republican machine knows he can't win the presidency (I mean, I'm sure there's a chance but as I see it it's vanishingly small). Do you think Cruz could win (the election, I mean)? It's been interesting watching certain media factions turn on Trump. I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:18 PM
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I just wanted to see if anyone would be willing to step up and say "yes, I would pull the trigger on a homeless/mentally ill person who was mugging people and being a nuisance but wasn't specifically attacking or mugging ME." Because if you're not willing to pull the trigger there, if something inside you tells you that would be wrong/bad/fucked up, we have to decide what to do with them. And all of the non-shooting them solutions cost $.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:08 PM
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Maybe I'm transparent and insecure And maybe you're not. I don't know how else to say this: I was not saying ALL red pillers and ONLY red pillers do this. Not at all. if you say you're not like this irl, I believe you. And I'm not too familiar with your posts here, either, so I'm also not saying you're like it here!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:05 PM
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Well, at that point something would have to be done. But so far, most people are fucking adamant that being on the dole is not something they want. I see you positing this "but soon EVERYONE will be on the dole and society will collapse!" throughout the thread and all I have to say is well, so far that isn't happening and nothing indicates to me that I should be living in fear of it happening. You can't use hypothetical future scenarios as points, Pem. People in Canada, Europe, Scandinavia etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:03 PM
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I'm sure you saw this but this might give a very, very general overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right. And there are a higher percentage of white rights (ahem, 'race realists') types in the New Right in general. NANRALT but it's definitely there. I'm not even sure to advise you on where to go for info. It's a pretty divisive subject in general. I will say: Not Reddit. And: Not Blogs Written By Cranks Which Is 98% Of Them So Why Take The Chance? Are you British? It's hard to explain th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:58 PM
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I think we're kind of talking past each other here. A lot of the time on here I think people are specifically trying to come across as one way and are thereby actually coming across another (almost opposite) way. They don't seem aware of it - it doesn't seem conscious. I just assume that if they don't see it online they probably don't see it irl, either. You DO see this irl, a lot. Insecure people (and we're all insecure but very insecure people who are insecure about something rather specific) …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:53 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:50 PM
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Yes. I already pay for it. Through taxes and living in a country with a social safety net. Also, as others have pointed out, providing care before it comes to prison/hospital is actually the cheaper solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:48 PM
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I don't mean if someone attacks you, I just mean as a solution to the problem of lots of homeless/mentally ill etc. people on the street. I see you weren't the "bullets are cheap" guy, though, and I was more responding to the implication that bullets were the solution to the problem of, as described above, homelessness and related issues. I.e. the response ("bullets are cheap") was to the statement that jailing them costs money. I was just wondering if any badasses here would be willing to pull …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:43 PM
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I actually bet an American friend (re: Rubio getting the nom) because said friend is losing his mind over the possibility - which he sees as an almost certain outcome, although he is allowing himself some breathing room after this past Monday - that Trump is going to get it (the nomination). As a non-American I have a number of reasons to hope for a Trump OR Cruz victory: Entertainment. Trump getting it would be fucking hilarious. I don't think Trump or Cruz could win the presidency. And as a le…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:37 PM
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If you're really interested in this, you should Google it. Some of it is pretty interesting/solid but some of it is proper American-style crankery.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:32 PM
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Rubio's gonna get the nom. I have $50 on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:30 PM
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Yeah, the science on early intervention is pretty extensive and clear. Bad early parenting leads to bad life outcomes and bad life outcomes for individuals leads to higher levels of all kinds of shit that harms other individuals and society in general. It's pure, rational practicality to use taxpayer $ to fund early-intervention programs, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:18 PM
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You should move to Somalia, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:02 PM
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So would you do that, then? Personally, I mean? Would you shoot homeless people in the street? What if it was legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:01 PM
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"Anything that undermines the values of civil society is an own goal." I read that somewhere recently. Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:57 PM
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Is this a reference? I'm a lame-o and don't get it. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:44 PM
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I haven't really got a super-clear opinion on this but as for the draft, specifically, vs volunteering, I think I'm probably against women being drafted. In terms of volunteering, if a given woman can meet the required physical standards (and they should be the same as they are for the men - there's no place for softening standards when it comes to war, imo), then she should be able to. I don't care what sex or colour or whatever a person is. If they can fight we should let them, and that opinio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:43 PM
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I didn't mention begging. And once again, as I said to the other poster who replied to me, I am talking about behaviours, not specifically red pill men. You can be a whiny, supplicating bitch and come across as insecure/needy. But you can also be an overcompensating, defensively masculine type, and that, too, comes across as insecure/needy. I see it ALL the time here with certain red pillers. You can smell the desperation to come off as alpha, you can sense it's not real. Real alpha is secure an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:23 PM
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Pem, pls. I quite clearly said: when it comes to hitting on strangers or looking for ONS And this poster above said: a woman you're seeking a relationship with My post was very much about ONS/sex with strangers and NOT relationships. I think relationships are different for both sexes and while attraction still matters a lot, both men and women look for different things for a LTR than they do for something casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:16 PM
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OK, I laughed at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:39 AM
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I have no way to tell if someone is into the red pill or not (AFAIK you guys don't wear badges or anything) - it's the behaviours that are recognizable. Not as 'red pill' but (as grossusername described) as insecure/needy. It's not difficult to spot, really, I'm sure you've run into such people, male and female.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:14 AM
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astounded by basics Most succinct, accurate description ever. That's epitaph material.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 07:29 PM
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You're on fucking fire in this thread, Grossusername. Seriously, your posts here are excellent. The original, longer one would be, if PPD had 'posts of the week,' worthy of that great honour. I think people miss the fact that a lot of TRP behaviours scream neediness to anybody who actually recognises them. They are unattractive for the exact same reason nice guy behaviours are unattractive; they are internally extremely needy. They are just built to obscure that fact. Goddamn. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 07:21 PM
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I find this idea abhorrent. I don't know about 'abhorrent' - mainly because if my time here has taught me anything it's that people have preferences and there is literally no point in getting upset about them (not saying you are - in fact your response is probably more legit than mine, I've been ruined by this place). But that kind of thinking (and that poster is definitely a good example of it) is just something I on a very basic level don't respect in any way. I don't want to change his mind (…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:54 PM
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Very shameful. I don't have a TV, which means when I do watch TV it's all the good series that I need to catch up on. If I did have a TV, I would totally watch it. I'm more than up for trashy reality shows. I've recently gotten into Survivor again and I sometimes wish this sub watched it, because the social dynamics are truly fascinating/illuminating. And if that's true about Kanye then I am disappoint. I don't want him to be that way but the fact that he married her makes me think he might be. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:41 PM
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God this is boring. Can we just stop with "well humans are animals too! gotcha!" stuff? Yes, we are. Everyone gets it. But there are actual, huge differences between 'humans' and 'other animals' that mark us out as a special case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:29 PM
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I think North West is probably going to go to the best schools, so if Kim can keep grandma away from her, she has a real chance. I don't think Kanye would let his kids grow up to be vapid, uneducated blobs of famous uselessness. And Kylie, really? I saw a clip of her at some club in Montreal and she was just going "oh my gaaad, wooo!" over and over, with short, confused-seeming pauses in between. But I trust your take, Grid. Yep...Kim seems dim. It's not even a slam (well, it is, but you know). …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:11 PM
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Yeah, that's my take on that 'type' as well. They're just failures at life. I mean, I'm sure a criminal CAN BE alpha, but his criminality isn't the thing that makes him alpha. And come on, most criminals are just stupid assholes, not daring, sexy bad boys with magical dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:07 PM
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Oh I totally agree Kim K is a machine. But talented? A good girl? Naw (and my good girl comment comes with no judgment - she doesn't have an obligation to be one). And Kanye just comes off as defensive and shook. No chill. Amber Rose fucking owned him last week. I'm genuinely fascinated by their marriage. He's seems smart and interesting (and interestED). I would love to know what they talk about when they're just hanging out. Maybe she's a closet super-genius?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:42 PM
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I actually quite like Amber, too. As a woman, though, and therefore as a person who lacks all honour, I would happily throw her under the bus for some sweet Wiz D. Same for Kanye. Heart him. But that "30 showers" comment just bugged the f out of me. I mean, it wasn't even the slut-shaming as much as it was DUDE! YOU MARRIED KIM FUCKING KARDASHIAN! The woman who is literally famous for a video of herself getting pissed on. Once again it's almost endearing how much he seems to truly believe that K…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:34 PM
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I swear I recently saw this (Kohlberg's moral hierarchy) used on here to bash women. So I'm happy to see the RPs denouncing it. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:28 PM
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I don't think all masculine men are alpha, but I do think all alphas are masculine. But this convo is almost impossible without definitions. Most of us have very specific, personal ideas about what is and isn't alpha. Dude below who says he wears skinny jeans, does't work out, has long hair etc. - he sounds masculine to me, but I bet a bunch of RPs would say he isn't. One thing I don't buy re: alpha is this current fad (on PPD) to view low self-control men, criminals, prisoners etc. as 'alpha'. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:14 PM
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That guy doesn't sound masculine at all. He sounds like someone who desperately wanted to be masculine and tried too hard and in a manner that everyone could see through.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:12 PM
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In the military I always got put in positions of power and the same thing happens at every job. I've noticed a definite correlation between military experience and alpha-ness in men. It really has the ability harden up the softies in a lot of cases (not saying you were a softie, just in general).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:10 PM
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You shurrup. I don't like Michael McIntyre. Any anyone who says they saw me begging him for the D out back of the theatre and that they have clear video evidence of this is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:01 PM
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So I have to ask because I genuinely don't know and am now filled with hope that I am not alone... Are you being serious? Or are you taking the piss out of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:01 PM
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I'd be fine with all those. The more male grade school teachers the better, actually, under the current situation of there not being many.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:00 PM
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Grid, I can't explain Wiz. I just...holy shit, I just look at him and am flooded with tinglez(TM). I love him. I love him. And I can even see, with my own eyeballs, that he's a skinny beanpole. I still want him to boss me around and to stare at him like a politician's wife, though. Wiz, if you're reading this, I totes won't be all back-talky and slut-walky like Amber and I'll wash your socks and s your d with a goddamned grateful smile on my face! Call me! <3 And Yeezy played the fuck out of him…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 06:53 PM
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Men and women are different. Well, yes and no. This is clearly dependent on what specifically is being discussed. It's also dependent on perspective. I.e. it's true to say "the vast majority of all men and women want attractive members of the opposite sex to be attracted to them." That;s a similiarity. One could also say "men enjoy casual sex more than women do." That's a difference. I think there are basic drives in all human beings that we share. But I also think we're all individuals. This se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 06:46 PM
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No worries girl (I don't think you were responding to me - both me and iratemd hailed you!). I'll def. bring the white. And the photos of Wayne Rooney and Wiz Khalifa to decorate our clubhouse with and swoon over. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 01:41 AM
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Yeah, Ia ctually read further down and I get ya - my post wasn't aimed at you specifically although I see I worded it to seem like it was. Sorry bout dat. I don't fancy Zac Efron at all, either. I was just using him as an example of 'pretty' because we seem to agree as a culture that he is. Pretty. I think Chris Pine is prettier but as I said, I was going to the average person's opinion. As for /u/bekazzled - she can join me in my Club Of Women Who Fancy Men No One Else Fancies and we will drink…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:22 PM
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I might let an adult male I knew well look after my kids. But if I didn't know him well, nope. And it's not because I think ALL men are molesters. In probably the same way the TRP "I won't date sluts" brigade probably acknowledges that not ALL sluts are crazy, ruined whores who can never be happy, but they don't want to take the risk. And FTR I do think, personally, that they go overboard there but hey, people have preferences and I accept that. It's all about risk perception. If I fuck up on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:18 PM
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I'm going to out myself as someone who not only sees SJP as attractive, but who understands why other women do, too. It's not that I think she has a pretty face, she doesn't, but she has real feminine presence/style/charm. I have never seen her interviewed and not thought 'damn, she's really...there's something about her..." And i also get why men don't take this part of SJP as sexual attractiveness. She's just, apart from her average to below-average face, very bubbly and sweet and giggly and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:07 PM
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Yeah, totally agree. You put 1000 random men and women in a room, all naked and ungroomed, the VAST majority of both groups are going to be 'eh'. I think a lot of people, esp. men, have very little idea of how grooming can improve a person's looks. You don't even have to BE good-looking to be perceived as good-looking, imo. Jenna MArbles did a video about this that was on-point. She's actually an excellent example. I think she's thought of as a bit of a hottie, but in truth she is utterly averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:03 PM
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You are definitely working with a different definition to the one I'm working with and the one my female friends are working with. When we say "Nice Guy" (with the right tone) we all know we mean 'superficially supplicating/'nice' male with a whole lot of crazy lurking just under the surface that will come out if you show him any level of human interaction and then decline to be his gf/fuck him." And this isn't to say that supplicating without the underlying crazy is attractive - it isn't. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:00 PM
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Riiiight. You love him. You love Michael McIntyre!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:57 PM
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I've never been to that sub and probably never will. The internet isn't real life. Subreddits and online communities set up to mock a specific type of person are, if you assume they reflect reality, going to make it seem like the mocking of non-Nice Guys (TM) and Nice Guys (TM) is much more widespread than it is. If they're ripping into dudes for non-Nice Guy (TM) behaviour then they're probably just big meanies. Irl a lot of people would, out of simple human emotion, not go out of their way to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:56 PM
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That's actually why I don't generally post photos in those 'average' threads, either. It's too much effort to find pics of average people on the internet. They're mostly hotties or fugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:52 PM
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This, totally. I'd say 90% of men fall into the eh/oh, okay, maybe this could work category for me. Maybe upwards of it, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:50 PM
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Don't ever post Michael McIntyre again, Grid. Blargh. He sux.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:49 PM
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Why are women able to notice when a woman possesses good looks? I think some dudes consider this type of convo frivolous. And they associate frivolity with femininity. And they don't want to be feminine. So they do that "aw, i can't even tell if other men are good-looking" thing. I don't believe them for a second. If you can't tell that (for example) Zac Efron is pretty and Steve Buscemi isn't, you're blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:46 PM
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I'm not sure certain people are ever going to get this. OP, if the guy in question is simply a kind, giving person who has a crush on a girl, then he isn't a Nice Guy (TM). I mean, that's really all the info you need. Before the manosphere even existed, women knew, when talking to each other, exactly what 'Nice Guy (TM)' meant. You can indicate as much by tone alone. You can also use the phrase to describe a man you think is nice, and that will be obvious by tone as well. If he's a kind but low-…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:11 AM
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This does sound quite entitled How is that entitled? What if it's the truth? It's RP that professes to love the hard truths and give voice to them. It might just be a fact that those dudes were much lower SMV than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:06 AM
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Exactly. I've seen a discussion similiar to this one here before and there were a few people in there legit arguing that women were getting with conquerors throughout history because they were sexually attracted to them. Seriously. As in, you just murdered my whole family but fuck, that's hot, let's bang. Some of these people genuinely believe most/all women are proper psychopaths. If I'm 21 in some village that's just been overtaken by an invading force, my family has just been killed (includin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:04 PM
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I sincerely hope Trump gets the Republican nomination. I don't think he's going to, because I don't think even the USA is that batshit, but if he does, oh sweet jeebus it's gonna be beautiful. I'm still kind of half-expecting him to come out with a 'lol j/k' - or to be outed as a Democratic sleeper agent or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 08:32 AM
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It's interesting, OP, how you haven't actually said much of anything about this hypothetical dude beyond the superficial stuff. It was the same with the other question, earlier. A dude fitting all this criteria could be an excellent man, husband, bf etc. Or he could be a really shitty one. Same for the earlier question. And I'm not being deliberately assy - there is just no way this is enough info to decide whether or not I'd be 'into' this guy. I see there's already one lazy 'snowflake'/accusat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 08:28 AM
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According to them its much better than just fingering without me banging them, but I can never quite tell if they are honest about this. Orgasm with dick inside me>orgasm without dick inside me (and I mean clitoral o's, not the rarer vaginal-only ones). Seriously, it is a different sensation with a dick/dick-shaped object inside. A better one, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:00 AM
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I'm not sure if you totally misunderstood what I was saying there (and if you did, it may be my fault for not explaining it properly) and are trying to argue with me or if we essentially agree on most of this stuff. In no way do I think I've transcended being shitty myself or somehow erected a shitty-person-repelling forcefield around me. Life is messy. No one is perfect. I think we may be using 'shitty' in different ways. When I say it I mean intentionally, overtly shitty. A lot of people here …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:11 AM
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Assume purples can answer, too...? My answer is: it hasn't changed anything about how I behave around others or how I observe interactions. I would be genuinely shocked to run into a red piller irl, simply due to the odds being against it (it's not a widely known thing) and am therefore not really on the lookout for red pillers. Some of the things RPers talk about are things I've just always taken into account. Stuff like other people not always having your best interests at heart, bad people ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:38 PM
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Emotional labour is a good buzzword. I am OK with it being around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:23 AM
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Interesting convo. I often find myself genuinely baffled by the amount of shitty people some of the posters in this sub seem to hang with/come across. And then I wonder if it's just differing definitions of 'shitty' or if they actually do run into or know more shitty people, you know? Like you, I would say the vast majority of people I spend time with aren't shitty. They have flaws and things about them that can be annoying to me (although mostly that's because I'm easily annoyed and I recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:21 AM
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You fucking narcissist. ;P (OK, joking aside, when I mentioned trolls I didn't have you in mind - although, as also mentioned, I think most of us in here could cool it with the snark sometimes, myself included) Edit. As for point number 3 (yours) - Xemnas, no. No. That's not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 09:07 PM
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Well this is great news. I have some thoughts. I'm as close as I've ever been to leaving PPD (ha ha, that sounds like a threat - do something about this place or Fruitenvrac will leave AND THEN YOU'LL ALL BE SORRY!! - it's not a threat, I'm just trying to be honest about my feels re: PPD) due to the fact that it has, imo, become even more of a shitshow than it used to be. Every now and again, I have an interesting exchange here and that keeps me around. Well, combined with the fact that this pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 11:21 PM
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As I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 08:08 PM
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When I first started participating on this sub, I was very naive. I was all "eh, don't delete any posts, let us get on with it, don't ban ppl, rigorous debate will always be useful and interesting." I've flipped almost entirely around and now believe this sub needs to be modded with a much, much firmer hand(s). A lot of what gets 'debated' here (single quotes because c'monnnn, we flatter ourselves, this ain't debate, this is shit-slinging and trolling) is just worthless by any measure. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:20 PM
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im goodlooking, and mathematics are part of my work, so i can objectively judge and analyse anything without my logic being affected by it Just to be clear, is your infallible ability to analyze 100% of things in an 100% objective way based on your knowledge of mathematics or the fact that you're good-looking? My ability to do the same comes from the fact that I'm a Libra.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:13 PM
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'Alphas' dont have higher Testosterone levels. This thread is one of those almost-impossible conversations we seem to specialize in here at PPD. There is no agreed-upon definition of 'alpha' or 'beta' - here or anywhere. I mean, "alphas have higher testosterone" - first of all, define alpha, then show the research that has gone into proving that these men have higher T (and in what sense - circumstantially? all the time? different ages?). We can't talk about this stuff. There is WAY too much mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:09 PM
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JFC. I'm surprised these edgelords haven't sliced themselves to ribbons and bled out yet. OP, this shit is the bottom of the fucking barrel. I mean, who do you think posts stuff like that? People who win at life? They're stomping around throwing toddler tantrums and calling women poopyheads. Leave them to it. Reacting just makes their dicks hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:38 AM
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How would joining the Marine Corps raise his smv? Are you joking? Have you seen those guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:34 AM
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Ha ha, yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:33 AM
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Yeah, that shit is hot. In the same way baking pies for my ex was hot for me. Sometimes, reveling in your gender role is actually extremely pleasant. If these dudes don't want to walk on the outside, if that offends them, then just, you know, don't do it. No one's gonna execute you for it. The people taking great umbrage to this image are even bigger, whinier bitches than the people who post this stuff, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:32 AM
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women are attracted to men who they view as superior OP, can I ask some questions? When you say this, first of all, do you mean that this - the being attracted to people who are superior in some way - is exclusive to women? I think RP does see it this way. The way you've defined it here it feels like literally any woman is open, in some way, to accusations of hypergamy. She could be a 9/10 Nobel prize winner who dedicates her life to charity dating the best surfer from her social group because s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:24 AM
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I love you. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 09:24 PM
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Yeah I definitely understand that there are all types. Lots of men wouldn't be into prozzies for the reasons you've gone into. I just feel like for me personally if I was a man, I would bang hookers to avoid the emotional stuff and get my rocks off. It's weird what you say about porn and I have a slightly gross confession. I sort of like it when the girl isn't that into it and the dude is (the latter is important because a lot of times the dude seems as uninterested as the woman). I can only wat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:57 PM
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I was trying to be dominatrix-y with you, to see how you responded. By offering cookies, you have responded well. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:53 PM
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Every goddamned time I see your name I have the same thought: "Is that a statement about poop being in bottoms? Or does this person want someone to poop in his bottom?" And then I feel sick because you made me think about poop. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:34 PM
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Say sorry, worm!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:27 PM
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Someone really, REALLY needs to start a discussion on what everyone here sees as dominance. Because there are some fucking massive differences of opinion, imo, when it comes to what a 'dominant man' is. I LIKE dominant men. A lot. And the RP descriptions of this hypothetical man often (not always) disagree with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:22 PM
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Are we having a misunderstanding here? I'm not saying these men are average right now, I'm saying the raw materials, the pre-grooming/gym/styling versions are average. NOT the current ones you see in the photos. As they stand right now, they're above average, imo, yes (although I don't actually fancy any of them, which is interesting given my gay mannisheness).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:20 PM
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I'm sorry you've had such bad experiences. Holy shit and you're the OP! /u/poopinmybottom (who needs to get a new username pls pls) gave you the most thoughtful non-agreeing answer in this thread and this is your response? Fucking FAIL, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:17 PM
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That's just when the women say things they don't like. Get your shit together, dundundun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:05 PM
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Then stop being fucking greedy and allow some of the human males to go without facial hair!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 10:59 PM
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How do you mean? They're average dudes doing everything to maximize their attractiveness, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 10:58 PM
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I'm not blind and you know what? I genuinely don't see this around me. Seeing a very unattractive woman with a decent looking man is less common than seeing the opposite (which also isn't common). That honestly IS what I see around me. I'm not sure it's even controversial (outside of PPD) to say that men are more 'visual' than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 10:57 PM
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We keep having this convo on PPD and I think I've basically just decided that if you - male or female - get to your late teens without realizing that being physically attractive matters, you were either living under a rock or you suffer from some kind of disorder that disallows you from seeing the things that are around you. PPD posting dudes who are so quick to shout "but women/society told us otherwise!" are outliers. Everything about the society we live in tells us, all of us, that being hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:55 PM
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Where exactly do you live where 90% of the men between 20 and 40 aren't sporting huge beards? I'm totally surrounded by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:46 PM
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Ah yep, that's who it is. Thank you. I also see he's a mod here - I thought he only showed up last week!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:44 PM
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Beards are everything. Griddy stahp.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:31 PM
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I wouldn't have guessed this person was trans. That said, even if I could tell, I'd treat a person as the gender they wanted to be treated as. It's just good manners, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:25 AM
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Maybe not for late teens/very early 20s but I'm older than you and post, I dunno, 25-ish, that continual short-term relationships thing sort of makes me go 'nah'. Even more than straight promiscuity/lots of ONS, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:24 AM
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I'm pretty sure there was someone with 'squirrel' in his UN IDing as red pill around here. Perhaps it's just a similiar username. Are you an older married dude? It was an older married dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:16 AM
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I feel like it probably wasn't 'alphas' saying Miranda Kerr is a 4 and calling JLaw fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:12 AM
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Yeah but who wants a lazy 5 of EITHER sex? Not saying none of us would settle for that (again of either sex) but who prefers that? No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:08 AM
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I wasn't talking about romance in service of getting pussy. If all you want is pussy there are quicker ways than candles and chocolate (although I can't lie, I put out for chocolate...I'm an outlier like that). I was talking about romance in relationships. Also, one can be both romantic AND a testosterone-fueled beast. In fact that's the best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:08 AM
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Possible specific scenario: you're going out with a girl who you're pretty sure you're going to have sex with AND you have an issue with premature ejaculation. In that case, YES, jerk off before your date. Otherwise, I dunno. If you're just trying to fuck her, then maybe don't jerk off beforehand. You know, so she can smell the testosterone wafting off you. But if you're looking to get into a relationship with her, consider it because it might keep you from being a drooling, leering beast that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:05 AM
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Dude. Weren't you red pill last week?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:03 AM
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A lazy 5? I literally can't think of a reason why any woman would want to date this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 09:09 PM
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Interesting. I have thought about this. Perhaps it's a similar visceral reaction that some/many men have to sluts? I could use that in my slut-shaming repertoire to make sluts understand. It probably is something similiar. It's funny because I just don't feel it. Not for men who see hookers. Men who get into a lot of relationships, esp. short terms ones, does light up a small red warning light in my head but hookers? Nah. That just speaks to a high sex drive and pragmatism, both of which are pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 09:05 PM
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Why did you even start this convo if you were just going to resort to this kind of response? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 08:38 PM
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Oh yeah, ofc. I didn't mean to go all 'but what about the men?!" there - it's sort of assumed that, as a woman, I understand the female side of it, too. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 08:35 PM
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I definitely wouldn't go so far as to say 'destroying' (in fact there are ways in which, if one was completely cold and calculating, it could be seen as a good thing) but it's having an effect, at least superficially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 08:31 PM
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He loves clubbing and is good looking, but whenever a girl is hitting on him he stops her and later complains about sluts being way too easy. He could have fucked well over hundred girls already, but somehow he is his best cockblocker. That's genuinely sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 07:40 PM
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If I was a man I would tooooootally visit hookers. It's just so much less messy (and I mean emotionally/mentally, not physically, although it's probably that too given condom use and frequent STD testing if it's legal where you are).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 07:39 PM
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I think this is part of it, for sure. I also think there's other stuff going on. I think a lot of people have really internalized the 'men wanting to fuck a lot (to include: 'fuck a lot of strangers') are base, shameful animals.' Larval-stage rapists, if you will. I REALLY don't want to come across as RP or anything close to it here but I do think there has been a general cultural shift to viewing male sexuality, especially aggressive male sexuality, as something shameful. A lot of men these day…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 07:36 PM
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This sub needs to start giving out awards for exchanges like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 07:23 PM
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Yes. Except when we women have them. Then they're awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 06:54 PM
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Yeah, a few of my friends have run into that guy. Then you get the one who says that and means it. To the extent that that's kind of all he wants to do, and he wants to do it for fucking hours. I dunno, it's all about luck. I'm not super into receiving oral (not against it or anything and I'll definitely let someone do it but it isn't my total thing, ya know?) and when I met that dude, the one who wants his face buried in pussy for the maximum amount of time, it just made me sad that I couldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 06:51 PM
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There is nothing more likely to make me think a dude doesn't know what he's doing than a statement like "I get all my women off every time, 3 times at least! Sometimes 10!" And I'm not talking about that poster - his tone is suspicious but I don't have any real info, maybe he really does have a magic dick/fingers/tongue - I'm just talking in general. Like, really? 10x? And it was easy? No. Just, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 06:33 PM
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Yes, this, excellent and well thought out post (yay!). It certainly seems to me that certain kinds of... predatory... behaviour/attraction from men seems very much about you being just a young woman and less about 'beauty'. GodDAMN this is so true. I have seen so many people (esp. men) who think catcalling is about hotness. Some of it is but imo a lot of it isn't. I've even seen some claiming that the quality of the catcallers goes down as women age out of their teens/early 20s (in a sense this …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 06:20 PM
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Men are just lucky, they get softer features when they're young, more babyface if you like, and grow into more masculine features in their late 20s early 30s. I was talking with a friend about this a few days ago - specifically about the kind of man who looks best in the late 20s/early 30s. Because it is a specific type - as you said, generally babyfaced, maybe slightly pudgy (not fat), just a general softness of features. I've seen this in a male friend who is now much better looking (at 29) th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 06:03 PM
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Of all the people to act like posting pics of yr muscles online isn't cool. Bruh...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:12 PM
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That my character and integrity were what made me lovable and attractive. They are what makes you lovable. You can't see someone's character so it takes time to get to know that part of them, but it's the difference between sex and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 06:30 AM
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It's never secure. It's never secure for anyone, male or female. What if s/he meets someone sexier/smarter/richer/stronger/younger/funnier/better at making caramel without burning the shit out of it than me? What if none of those things happen but s/he falls out of love with me anyway? What if s/he gets hit by an asteroid tomorrow? The fantasy of unconditional adoration is equally appealing to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 06:29 AM
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From the linked comment: he does something, woman responds This is male solippybippy. Men 'do' romance, women have romance 'done' to them. I feel pretty safe in saying that if you're male, and you believe this, you haven't experienced being loved by a woman. And that isn't virgin shaming or piss-taking on my part. Reddit skews young and male. Sex isn't love. It wouldn't be odd at all for young men not to have experienced deep, real, mutual love with a woman, even if they've had sex. Love (and ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 06:24 AM
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What have you got against BASE jumpers? BASE-ist!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 01:27 AM
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The best female sexual strategy is being hot. Best male one, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 01:19 AM
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I hear they bathe in the blood of virgins. Which, now that I say it, might explain their previously inexplicable need to associate themselves with Red Pill? AH HA HA HA! Just joking, yo. It popped into my head and I had to say it. But seriously now. RPW are fine. Just like BASE jumpers are fine. Do I want to BASE jump? Or associate myself with RPW? Oh HELL no. But it's not like I want to ban them from existence, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 01:13 AM
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Are all those dollar amounts in US$? I actually thought it was less in the US. Like, i thought you could pay someone $2/hour in the US and expect them to live off tips. Those evil Americans! Down with that sort of thing! Even if, apparently, that sort of thing isn't actually happening! Yeah, the Quebeckers (or Quebecois if you don't want to piss them off) are a mixed bunch. There is definitely a contnigent of the young ones that travel extensively and are very open-minded (Quebec is out most lib…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 01:09 AM
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But look at the responses to this OP! It's almost unanimous, man (in fact I think it is). The OP is a bad play. A really obviously bad play. RP should be paying attention to these responses for that reason. As for the joke, I mean, is it just a discussion about telling a joke that most people would laugh at? Or have you tacked on something like "...because they're vapid non-thinkers" onto the end, as an explanation as to WHY ppl would laugh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:58 AM
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Well it would help if you guys wouldn't generalize I literally can't tell if your taking the piss or not. If you're not I'll say that yeah, I'm sure it is possible to be intelligent and RP. Just like it's possible to be smart and blue pill or not pill. And be really fucking stupid and RP/BP/PP/NP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:55 AM
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Or they do know it but are loathe to speak it out loud in a sub like this one where such a sentiment might be read as "...and I also obviously accept that men are the superior beings in every way." It would be so nice if we could have civil conversation in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:22 AM
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Not sure why you're getting downvoted - both of these stereotypes exist and, imo, should definitely get together and spare the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:19 AM
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No normal woman is going to be freaked out if a guy they like wants to hold their hand. I dunno, some women (and some men) just don't like being touched. That said, I don't disagree that a lot of women would be OK with the hand-on-the-small-of-the-back from someone they're attracted to but don't know well. I would enjoy that and I think many women would.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:17 AM
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Dude, wtf? Aren't you Red Pill? Are you saying you're like the dudes this poster is describing? Being like that and trying to be red pill must be a special kind of hell. I actually feel slightly sorry for you if this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:15 AM
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Fucking LOL at this guy. "Head on over to RPW." Yeah, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:13 AM
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Oh I would definitely discuss sex - and not just the physical mechanics of sex, which is what they get taught in school and is, imo, the simplest part to teach and understand - with any children of mine. Personally, while I think it's entirely possible that mid-teens girls can be emotionally ready for sex I also think it's somewhat rare. There is no way I was ready for it at that age. In fact if we're speaking emotionally I probably wasn't technically ready until I was in my 20s. Basically I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 11:57 PM
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You know, I'm not even sure if our waitstaff (in Canada) are paid as badly (and are therefore as dependent on tips) as they are in the US. I should Google that. As for Quebec, yeah, not all of the Quebeckers love English speakers. My anglo ass is regularly getting the 'oh, what, were you speaking?' treatment if I dare to use my own language. That said, they're not actually unhappy, as far as I can tell. It's just that stereotypical shrugging, Gallic grumpiness that I honestly didn't think existe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:07 PM
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women love men pragmatically and men love women idealistically This is pure RP dogma. Anyone who truly believes this is an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:56 PM
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If she had questions, I'd take them seriously and give her serious answers. I'd ask her questions too. "Do you think that sounds correct? Why do you think someone would believe those things?" etc. If I had a daughter (or a son) I'd raise her/him to think critically and question things so I'd hope this would happen automatically. If it seemed like she was internalizing any of it I'd explain that the boys saying these things are young and insecure, just like the girls, and that that's normal but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:47 PM
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You should just keep the incorrect chart, let everyone respond and then reveal that it's been gender-flipped. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:42 PM
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Goddamn, OP, I've just read through the responses and I'm feeling a little bad for you. Not that they're wrong - they're not. Are you going to respond? I mean, does any of this commentary mean anything to you? Does it change anything you believe? What you've outlined in the OP is very standard behaviour for a certain type of dude. A lot of this stuff isn't even neutrally-attractive, it's specifically negative. The 'taking over the convo' and 'talking about you prestigious job/degree' - those are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:31 PM
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I actually think the data from the first link might be entirely flipped/mislabeled. The 'What Women Want' data seems to be the 'What Men Want' data from the second link. And vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:15 PM
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In that first link...women ranked 'good cook/housekeeper' as eighth in 1939 and it fell to thirteenth...and men ranked the same thing at sixteenth to fifteenth? Have they mixed up their charts?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:33 PM
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Completely disagree. I've had this exact conversation on PPD before, though. Just because a given woman in a given situation isn't opening her mouth and saying the words "do you want to go out sometime" does not mean she's being passive. It's actually genuinely funny that you guys don't 'see' any of this. There's a whole wordless back and forth communication that happens between men and women way before they've even spoken to each other. Women send signals, sometimes very obvious ones, and not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 03:40 AM
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You're in Greece, right? Keep in mind you're talking to mostly Americans here. The idea of 'customer service' is very different when it comes to Europe v North America (excluding Quebec where a certain level of surliness is the norm).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 03:27 AM
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Because women, mostly, prefer the feeling of being desired. How is this 'passivity' in the SMP? Women go to great lengths and spend big $$ trying to be sexy/desirable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 03:24 AM
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I want Philomena Cunk and Barry Shitpeas to marry and have goofy children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 04:37 AM
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Some 'LMR' is probably about fear of being slut-shamed, although I'd say the specific fear of it is about the dude they're with rather than other people. You don't want the man you're actually about to sleep with to think you're a slut. To think you're a bad person, low-value etc. I mean, if you're going to have sex with someone I assume there's some attraction there, some wish that he think well of you. My thought is that most LMR is probably about the inherent nature of male and female and rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 04:35 AM
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I can't believe people like you exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 07:12 AM
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And I'd like to see you survive a day as a labourer in some third world shithole, my friend. Everyone of middle-class status and higher living in a first world country these days is one of the most materially spoiled bitches who ever walked the earth. We actually die of having too much these days. Think about that. Our ancestors worked for what we have today. And it turns out all that free time we have due to not having to get up at 4am every day to spend every daylight hour working ourselves to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 06:52 AM
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What do you mean by 'status' OP? Certain kinds of status are attractive to me (purple, female) and I would say specifically the ones related to being very good at a thing. Being highly skilled, working towards that skill etc. is attractive. There are other kinds of status that are neutral or negative for me - fame, fat bank balance etc. - I don't really care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 05:58 AM
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Ballbreaker!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:56 PM
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Some men are always in charge. Some (most) aren't. And I feel like my definition of 'in charge' probably differs from yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:13 PM
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When he attempts to kiss/have sex with her, duh. I feel like there's some interaction that's going to take place, even between strangers, before he tries to kiss or have sex with her. By the time he tries it, she already knows if she's attracted or not. Also, he'd have to be a terrible kisser to change her mind at this point (i.e. I'm assuming she's decided to have sex with him) and I'm not sure virginity has a lot to do with kissing skill at all. People who are terrible kissers (and vice-versa)…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:47 PM
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the only emotion I ever regularly see in other people is lust Oh man, I feel your pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:32 PM
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How would a woman know the man she's just met is a kissless virgin? You can't just tell that about someone. Unless he's a kissless virgin due to, for example, extreme social awkwardness and a tendency to leer at her breasts and adjust himself constantly in his pants during conversation? And in that case, isn't she more likely to be turned off by the awkwardness and the leering and the pants-adjusting than the fact that he's a virgin, which she doesn't know? I've said this before about 'pre-selec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:31 PM
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Yes, exactly. The assumption is just being made that these men were 6-7's by wub and wub alone. Then when they receive ratings below 6-7 that's taken as proof that 'women see average men as below average'. When the alternative - that these men aren't 6-7's - is just as likely to be valid. If I post some lantern-jawed women, assert that they're 6-7s and then say that men see average women as below average when they rate them below 6-7 it really doesn't have any meaning, because my 'average' could…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:26 PM
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No, I don't accept the OKCupid data (and RP - and everyone - should stop using it, as I've said before) for the very good, solid reasons /u/freebumblebee has outlined. The whole 'rate above 3 stars and the person you're rating finds out' TOTALLY skews that data, even without the other important factors bumblebee is noting (which matter). You're repeatedly just stating that the men you picked for this experiment are decent looking and basically dismissing what a lot of the women in this thread ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:58 PM
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IN PUSSAAAAAY? (sorry)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:00 AM
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If anything the fact that you think they have 'weak jaws' and are therefore not attractive, while rating the women as attractive, simply proves the point. Sure, maybe. But the alternative is the men were objectively worse-looking than the women. You keep asserting that the male grouping and the female grouping were of equal attractiveness and basically just asking us to take your assertion of that as fact. I assert that the men were not as good-looking as the women. And there's no way either of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:54 AM
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The first thing I'd like to point out is that these guys are really 6s and 7s Says who? Not being ornery, just really wondering where you're getting that those dudes were somehow objectively 6-7's? I really question the usefulness of this, in general. The photos you linked were mostly low quality images and honestly, any reaction I have based on a low-quality close-up of someone's face from a single angle isn't going to have very much to do with how I'd respond to that person irl, at all. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:02 PM
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In the title of your post you said: in general women are more prone to this And that's what I'm taking issue with. Sexual dimorphism existing doesn't = women are more prone to hamstering than men. As I said, I think basically all human beings are prone to hamstering and I don't think women are more or less prone to it than men. I'm sure there are probably specific subjects that get hamstered differently by men and women (or any two differing groups, really) but overall i definitely don't think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:30 PM
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That, seen in silhouette and with genitals obscured, he would be instantly recognizable as masculine/male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 07:31 PM
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I realise this is anathema to an American. I am not American. And it took me a lot of deep breathing to say that so neutrally. :D Seriously, though. If ever there was a reason to riot...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 07:22 PM
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But when we constantly say 'this is a gender neutral phenomenon', we again obscure gender dimorphism and return to our blank slate fallacy Gender dimorphism does not necessarily imply that women are more prone to hamstering than men. Disbelieving in the blank slate theory also does not necessarily imply that women are more prone to hamstering than men. Neither implies that men and women are completely different by every measure. They imply that differences based on sex exist. That's it. Both cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 07:16 PM
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Under the new Investigatory Powers Bill announced by Ms May the internet browsing history of everyone in the UK will have to be stored for a year and police and security services will be able to access the list of visited websites without any warrant. JFC. This is properly insane. British ppl seem so willing to riot over certain things (trying to take away our foxhunting? RIOT!) and so unwilling to riot over others (Orwellian nightmares? meh). without any warrant without any warrant what. the. f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 05:51 AM
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There's no talking to you Xemnas. You have person after person in this thread saying the dude is good-looking/above-average and you're openly interpreting it as 'acceptable' and 'tolerable' etc. Your issues, man. They're not interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 01:19 AM
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it's deceptive, manipulative, and used in such an extremely wide varieties of situations as to become practically unusable as any kind of descriptor. You have not established this. You have conceded that the word can be used in an entirely accurate way as a descriptor. The reason people are arguing with you is because this: it's deceptive, manipulative... Has NOT been conclusively proven true. You have conceded this. So again, on what specific basis are we to bar the use of the word? Give me spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 10:13 PM
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I understand fully, and I think I explained all this throughout the thread. No. You said: Anyone who calls someone else a "misogynist" is a liar and a troll. This is a blatant implication that anyone who accuses anyone else of being a misogynist is a 'liar' (i.e. that the accusation can never be true). You appear to have conceded this point now, so why are you still calling for the word itself to be barred from use? The word "misogyny" itself should be jettisoned just the same. On what grounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 09:41 PM
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yes, such people do exist. Alright, you concede that misogynists exist. Which makes the following statements of yours logically incorrect: Anyone who calls someone else a "misogynist" is a liar and a troll. Prove me wrong. Accusations of "misogyny" are indications of emotionalism and irrationality on the part of the accuser. Accusations of "misogyny" are disingenuous smears and appeals to emotion which do not objectively discredit anyone's position. You are doing the thing you accuse others of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 07:41 PM
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Dude, look at the link...how is that gonna work?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 04:31 AM
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No video there...if you got my reference my score on the misxemny scale is gonna fall slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 04:26 AM
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No, no, it's like this: self-improvement schlock-lit AND/OR intellectual masturbation (and let's not flatter ourselves in this sub, 'intellectual' might be taking it a bit too far) < LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE INCLUDING GENOCIDE AND ANAL VIOLATION BY A PACK OF HYENAS. What am I doing with myself? Running around all day picking up various things for the Xmas meal, cleaning my house and now making curry. Also thinking about punching you in the face. Edit: no actual plans to punch anyone, mods. tis a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:55 AM
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You have an English Lit BA (me too!) and you...the pillsphere...you...no...wut...no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:22 AM
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I don't see why this info isn't just as useful as reading Goethe. Either this opinion changes, or you're lost. I mean, come the fuck on. Are you seriously proposing that reading some manosphere blog is in any way or on any level as edifying or useful or awesome as reading Goethe??? You cannot be serious. And the helplessness with you, Jesus H Christ. "I know I'm obsessed and it's probs bad but boo hoo it's just my life and my time oh well on to the next shitty blog." And no, I didn't study Germa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 02:51 AM
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Xemnas I didn't mention Karen S., you did. Is it POSSIBLE that reading her would be more useful than reading, say, Goethe? Sure. is it probably? Oh hayull no. You seem to read so much but it all seems to be sourced from this tiny, odd little corner of the internet and it's a fucking waste of your time and brain, imo. You don't have to agree. I just...it makes me want to smack you, a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 08:04 PM
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Not as the one-dimensional beings they're made out to be. So is that a "yes, misogynists exist" or "no, they don't". I want a clear answer here. Do you or do you not believe that misogynists exist? I said "anyone who calls someone else." Yes. My hypothetical misogynist has confirmed that they are indeed a misogynist. I have then pointed my finger at them and said "this person is a misogynist". I have "called someone else a misogynist." Am I a liar/troll? Why would you say that someone is a misog…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:00 PM
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Fiction AND non-fiction. But why, specifically, does Karen suck, or give out faulty misleading information about gender politics? I have no idea if Karen S. sucks or if she gives out faulty information. But I still feel quite confident in saying there's much, much better things you could be reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 06:45 PM
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There's just a lot, multiple lifetimes worth, of much better material out there, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 06:33 PM
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You should read better stuff, Xemnas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 06:25 PM
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Hmm, OK. So does this just apply to misogynists or does it apply to misandrists as well? Racists? Nudists? Do you think misogynists exist? What if the misogynist I present to you open their mouth and says "yes, I am a misogynist"? Am I still, then, a liar, to call that person a misogynist? Or is your statement re: "Anyone who calls someone else a "misogynist" is a liar and a troll" therefore untrue?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 06:22 PM
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Anyone who calls someone else a "misogynist" is a liar and a troll. Prove me wrong. Wouldn't I just have to find a misogynist and present them to you in order to prove you wrong on this? Here, I found this misogynist, therefore I am not a liar when I call this person a misogynist and am in fact just making a true statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:35 PM
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Really? Well, in my post I said that I didn't think Cis's story was true (and I definitely don't think it is) so there's no getting upset over fiction. That said, it's possible, though unlikely, that some people did think it was true. IF they did, I can't say I'm totally surprised that some feels were the result. Human beings often feel all sorts of emotions when told a violent/traumatic event has occurred. Even if you don't experience these reactions, perhaps you can understand that there are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:27 AM
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I think you replied to the wrong person, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:02 AM
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Yes you can. It's wanking. Cis's embarrassingly fake post allows both sides to have a nice cathartic round of self-pleasuring and condemning their dastardly internet enemies. Blue Pill: The Red Pill are animals, degenerates, moral retards, what they post is horrific, worse than the holocaust! I cannot comprehend how a person could be so evil and fucked up! Iamverygood. Red Pill: All these feels over a story about violent rape? Whaaa? As a person who does not suffer emotions to exist in my ultra-…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:26 PM
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You know, I generally don't make the effort you have here to argue with certain RPers but I appreciate your work. And the point someone made well back is a good one: why not just admit you don't like women? They tie themselves in such convoluted knots. No part of me believes men like this have positive, meaningful relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:05 PM
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Yeah, this is barrel-scraping, even for PPD. The mods should take this down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 06:31 AM
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Woulda been nice if people focused on the actual discussion question though, instead of just its backstory. Mm-hm. Right. I'm sure the outrage was in no way exactly what you wanted. I'm sure this friend definitely exists and that he definitely violently raped someone and told you about it. There is no way this didn't happen. There is no way you made this post specifically in order to make people mad and then put on your baffled act when they did, in fact, get a bit mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 06:29 AM
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So is low-effort trolling, Cis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 06:20 AM
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I heart this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 12:50 AM
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You're lucky it's Christmas, Grid. Because if it wasn't, I would be forced to challenge you to a duel in defense of Wayne's honour/hottie status. A duel you would definitely lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:16 PM
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people like me would have no reason to be in fear and paranoid. No one can force you to date a red piller. If at any point during courtship you discover that a man is RP, you are perfectly capable of dumping him. As for fear and paranoia, it's not a useful way to go about living/dating and I feel the same way about RP's own fear and paranoia. RP didn't ruin your burgeoning relationship, it looks like you did. Don't throw around accusations so quickly/baselessly - it sounds like he didn't come ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:08 PM
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Lol i read that in the miracle on 34th street voice. Which is exactly what I intended! :D (although I think it's from It's A Wonderful Life?)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:52 PM
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If we're talking raw physical attraction then no, I don't think women need social proof for that. It's not something I've ever experienced. I either find a guy fuckable or not and whether or not my female friends feel the same way has no bearing on my opinion. My close female friends and I are pretty open with each other re: who we think is hot and there are some extreme differences of opinion. No one really changes their mind based on her friends being retarded/blind (sorry, I'm slightly bitter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:49 PM
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/u/pandorarosie and /u/fundude12 in lighthearted agreement? It's a Christmas miracle! Our very own PPD Christmas miracle! Everytime a BPer and an RPer agree, an incel gets his wings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:22 PM
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No proof. It would be almost impossible to conclusively prove this stuff. Perhaps mindreading technology?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 05:52 AM
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See, you get to choose. I'm talking about his hypothetical experiment. Until those incel dudes actually prove themselves willing to date/love/emotionally support their fug female counterparts, I don't believe it's anything except thirst. Can you prove No, and you can't prove your beliefs, either. We're all musing here. I wish more of us could admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 05:24 AM
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I'm very dominant and only date men over 7 foot. It's because when I was a child, a short man killed my family. Your point = destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 05:21 AM
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r/littlespace Someone fetch me my fucking fainting couch right now! (also, Dietz, you're wrong, but I can't talk about it right now due to that link)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:59 AM
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I'd have put my index finger over your lips a 1/4 the way through this rambling speech and told you to "shh" for starters Omg, you're doing it. You're doing it right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:52 AM
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There are already comments in this thread along these lines: a women of any weight can get cock at her door within a matter of minutes. I feel like this should be obvious but it seems to need pointing out that there is more than one way to arrive at the emotional state of 'loneliness' or 'deprived of what one wants from the opposite sex'. Women of all levels of attractiveness are not generally interested in getting "cock at her door." That's a male thing. Also, wub, if you do run the dating site…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:46 PM
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Oh god, greasy, why must you always be so dramatic? Dundundun isn't advocating for anyone to be fired, all they're saying is they'd want to look further into it if they found out someone teaching their young kids was a red piller. Which seems fine to me. That's the fucking point. No it isn't. The point is 'is someone who thinks badly of the group my young child belongs to teaching my young child? And if so, is this person containing their personal views to an extent where it isn't affecting my y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 10:30 PM
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and maybe not buying a ton of cute boots DTMFA.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:41 AM
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since they're expecting women to act logically What do you mean by this? Are you saying the logical reaction to a man doing nice things for a woman would be for the woman to (want to) fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 11:40 PM
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Butterbody. Heh. I'd say it depends on how 'butter' we're talking. Properly hideous face with nice body has lower SMV than pretty with slightly chubby body and vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:54 AM
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I'm half-convinced you're Andrew Savage. Although now you don't know who that is because you're a gigantic, non-Survivor watching loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:45 AM
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Wait, what? Men invented feminism? Me right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:28 AM
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Just reading this caused tumbleweeds in my undergarments. Does that answer your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:21 AM
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Do you watch Survivor, Protopill? Sorry for random question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:20 AM
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No. This is not true. What you say happened didn't happen. Nuance no existy. Context no existy. Women bad. Men good. Do you understand now? Idiot? Moron? Feeemale? If you don't understand (because you're stupid) I will repeat myself. Twice if needed. Thrice. As many times as you need. Just let me know. Every now and again there's a question on PPD that spawns a comment section like this one and I just want to stab myself repeatedly in the face with a fork for even coming here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:32 PM
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You know what? Good on you for having the ability to self-examine and make changes that improved your life. This: terrible personality, a superiority complex and no sense of humor is just so descriptive of a lot of the RP people posting in this specific comment section. The absolute inability to even consider the fact that any man might have played a role in his own rejection, that not all female rejection is about the fact that women are basically monsters etc. It's really, man, I don't know, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:26 PM
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I thought me and my sister were the only people who called them 'cacks'. Also, this: I bust huge nuts is always good. As a woman, the feeling of accomplishment over such things...it's nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:04 AM
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Is he we willing to use strap ons or dildos Oh Jesus, I cannot imagine asking a dude to use a dildo/strap-on on me. I feel sorry for this hypothetical man already. Although he could just ask me to balance a fleshlight on my belly in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:02 AM
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OP, let me tell you something. What I'm about to tell you is true. It is a true description of my feels. I participated on one of those dick size threads here a short while ago and admitted I like big dicks (and I can-not lie). I think I may literally have been the only one, or one of maybe two, but most of the women here said they preferred average. Make of it what you will. BUT. The question was about preferences regardless of other traits. My ex was, I would say, slightly below average. He wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:47 PM
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Ha ha ha this exchange (and his responses) made me chuckle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:43 PM
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Oh now, that ain't true. I think upper ankles are less important than penises. As are baby toes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:42 PM
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Jesus fucking christ, dude. That goes for all of your replies to /u/belletaco.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 08:17 PM
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Excuse me, I have a glandular problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 02:01 AM
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This is about mac n cheese. Do not fucking ask me to chill. Anything that threatens my access to mac n cheese is a serious issue and will be met with the strongest condemnation I can muster.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:02 PM
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Yeah. My first taught me how to make scrambled eggs properly. The first time he did it my reaction (the only possible reaction, under the circumstances) was to lie down on my back on the kitchen floor and...yeah. I still make scrambled eggs the way he showed me and I still have very happy memories of him. Men who can cook...men cooking for women...these things are unambiguous positives. What kind of a dumb asshole would turn down homemade mac n cheese, anyway? Jesus christ these red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 10:15 PM
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I talk about sexual attraction/arousal, not just "oh I would date/sleep with the guy from the pic". Legit getting wet and ready for sex right now, no more foreplay needed. Dude, just...wat? Seriously? You really think women don't get straight-up physically/sexually aroused by sexy male bodies?? Because it happens. It definitely happens. In the no-more-foreplay-necessary way you're talking about, too. As for 'porn' - a lot of women prefer their porn in written form. And you would be hard pressed …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 10:11 PM
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women aren't sexually attracted to men who make them mac and cheese Bullshit. Total bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 08:20 PM
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Get off the computer, Xemnas. Get off the computer right fucking now. Also happy birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 08:19 PM
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I didn't think you were mad, I was just surprised you haven't heard of this. Women liking male forearms and hands. Do you know what the best thing is? Watching a dude drive stick shift. It's arm/hand porn. What kind of lady hands do you like? Is it the skellington kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:42 AM
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I tend to have tunnel vision in a relationship. When I'm in love, other people might as well not even exist in a romantic/sexual sense. Yeah, this is me, too. I don't have any issue with poly people but I couldn't do it. When I'm into someone I'm into them - and only them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:28 AM
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I don't know if I got straight up called a liar, but there was some doubt over whether one could really tell the difference between gym/roid muscles and natural muscles. My preference is for natural bigness and i do personally feel there's a difference. Dude #1 definitely has 'show' muscles. It's like the difference between a German Shepherd bred for the show ring and one bred to work. Working>show ring. Body hair, I dunno, it's not really a thing to me. Hairless men can look a little odd but my…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:47 AM
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Men with very good looking faces are striking. I could stare at a nice face for a long time. But if it's about instant attraction, I have to lean towards body a little. That thing where you just feel like you want to tackle someone and chew on their necks. That's about body shape, imo. At least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:43 AM
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OP, your wording is a little tricksy. This: women, given a choice of men, will only be attracted to the best man to their liking they can get, which most often happens to be a man that is much more attractive than the woman in question. vs this: Conversely, men will be attracted to, and be content with a wide variety of women, ranging from the most attractive woman, to the average woman. The tricksiness is the "given a choice" part. Given a choice, ALL people, male and female, will go for the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 08:43 PM
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I am currently have a mixture of guac and queso fed, via IV, directly into my bloodstream. This is to say that yes, shit's awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:56 PM
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I've said this before (and have, at times, been accused of seeing a difference where there isn't one re: gym muscles vs work muscles) but I like men who are physically capable and whose bodies reflect that. Now, I also prefer 'big' men - the builtfat body type, I think it's called here. My ideal male body is Ben Cohen. But the dude in pic #1 just has that marshmallow/gym/roids look about him - his body says 'vain' to me and not 'capable of fighting bears or doing heavy labour'. His arms almost l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:54 PM
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What do you mean? Is it weird to like forearms and hands? I think a lot of women are into them...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:51 PM
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I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. This is PPD and I'm female. I therefore go out of my way to appear as unemotional and ungiddy as possible at all times, even though guacamole and its existence makes me want to run around in circles ripping my clothes off with glee.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:56 AM
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I view them as Veloci Raptors. If you've seen the recent Jurassic World, the true alpha "raptor trainer" understands their power and inherent untameability, and how even though he is technically the alpha, the raptors are always just barely restrained from eating him alive, scouring him over with all their senses to detect any slight weakness. He narrowly survives them by holding impeccable frame, knowing that mental dominance is a life and death matter. Ha ha, this is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:54 AM
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people's emotional vocabulary is shitty enough I came across an awesome quote the other day, that your comment reminded me of: "We are trying to unravel the Mighty Infinite using a language which was designed to tell one another where the fresh fruit was." (just Googled it, it's Terry Pratchett)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:52 AM
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HELL YES. (did I just score a point or lose one?)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:49 AM
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Yes, masculinity is responsible for many great and wonderful things, I agree. Without masculine drive the world would be a very different place. I am a fan of masculinity. As for removing porn, nah, I don't think we'd revert back to patriarchy immediately. I mean, in terms of video porn, we've only really had that widely available for, what, 30-ish years? I feel supremely confident that men would find a way to bash their bishopd without porn as it currently is (i.e. available 24/7, HD video form…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:33 AM
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OP, I read those pregnancy/forced abortion via self-esteem destruction threads today and had thoughts that I think are along somewhat similiar lines to yours. I don't want to even get into it (the subject of those other threads) with anyone here because I think looking for common ground would be futile but I did have a strong reaction to the RP reactions. I don't really see anything alpha or masculine in that responsibility-shirking. Sex is dangerous. For men and for women. Any time you stick it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:36 AM
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In my totalitarian state I would ration jerking off but would allow enough to prevent violence in the streets, which i think is a possibility if you have too many sexually frustrated dudes. My thoughts on pornography are developing. More and more, I think it's a negative thing. The male sex drive in young men is what gives them their energy, it's what drives them, it's what makes them men. Porn seems to ....ehhhh, how to put this. It's a dead-end. it's unproductive. It robs them of their natural…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:28 AM
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OK, my impressions. Pic 1: - looks pretty gay, good body, terrible styling (necklace, pants, frosted hair). nice forearms and hands (best part of him) am not attracted - too pretty Pic 2: - average looking face, can't see enough of his body to really tell, looks like he has a good sense of humour might be into him if he's as funny as he looks he might be and if he did something with the facial hair, which I really don't like. probably a 'not' though. Pic 3: - masculine, looks kind of threatening…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:18 AM
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I'm female, yes. I was also being somewhat facetious, as I'm well aware that banning porn isn't something that's really possible. But if I ruled over a North Korea-style state I would ban porn, especially for the young dudes. So. Much. Wasted. Energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:54 AM
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and nachos Aaaaaand I'm a MRA.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:52 AM
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I don't know what's causing it but whatever it is, it's a fuckin' tragedy. Hmmm, I see that Wiki link mentions porn. The more I think about this the more I think men, especially young men, should be banned from watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:30 AM
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Of course you did, you degenerate penis-haver!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:33 PM
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::maintains direct eye contact with Protopill whilst cramming entire baguette into mouth:: (note: 'baguette' is not a euphemism)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:42 PM
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It's about having conversations and interactions on your own terms. What do you mean by this? I can't stand people who are unable to converse or interact with others outside of their own 'way' but I find these people rare and am not sure it's what you mean...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:59 AM
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quietly making others want to be led by you I hear this. a better kisser And this, too. In fact in some ways I think kissing 'skill' is a bigger deal to me than straight-up fucking 'skill'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:57 AM
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Ha ha, yeah, and then he cheated on her with the nanny. I think Sienna Miller is working on a movie with Ben Affleck right now and I so want those two messy sluts to get together, for my gossip entertainment. Both are fresh out of relationships with spouses, it's perfect timing. As for Jude Law, I just don't think he has any ability to keep it in his pants. He's a proper old school manwhore and he's going to leave the planet littered with his DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:37 PM
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I don't have any issue with the concept of holding frame. It's basically just a re-wording of 'have boundaries, know them, don't just let others cross them.' That said, it can, like any other personal 'rule,' get ridiculous. Have a personal rule about lying? Catch your gf/bf lying to you? Sure, hold frame, dump 'em. Have a personal rule about not putting the empty milk carton back in the fridge? Catch your bf/gf doing just that? Maybe consider that this might not be dump- or freakout worthy. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:32 PM
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Right now, at this specific point in history, the gesture from Obama feels symbolic more than anything else. For a draft to be enacted in the US there would have to be some very serious shit going down, and there isn't - not right now. We're going to have to be careful here differentiating between "I don't believe there should be a draft for anyone, ever" and "I don't believe women should be drafted." I suspect most anti-drafters here mean it in terms of both sexes. My own position? I think circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:27 PM
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Waaaaaang.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:04 PM
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I don't think anyone reading that story would think that woman is anything other than a total moron. Really? You expected one of the biggest manwhores in the world to settle for your ass? Dumb, dumb, dumb. He's an idiot for sticking it in civilians, too, tho, because of course she's gonna go to the tabloids for a payday. He also has a habit of fathering children with these randoms. Jude Law is a horny old goat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:15 AM
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No, because our other roommate was my boyfriend at the time. So we couldn't have done anything abut it anyway. But if I'd been single, I would have pretty much tackled him, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:55 PM
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I am on board. Rule #1: This one time, a man acted like a fucking idiot. It definitely follows, via logics, that all men are fucking idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:57 PM
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Are you hot, OP? I ask because at uni one of my roommates was an engineer and he spent a good proportion of his time complaining about the lack of women in his life, how bad he was with women, how no one women liked him etc. And he was hot af and had literally no clue. I used to get weak-kneed just standing next to him. So step one is make sure you're not actually hot and socially inept like that guy. Step two would be figuring out why women aren't reacting well to you. Maybe you're not hot? Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:55 PM
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On the one hand, this sounds nice. A nice, clear contract with everything written down all tidy-like. I mean, irl it would all devolve into arguments over whether or not the contract really was being broken, or the definitions of certain words etc., but if it could be done properly, yeah, sure, it could be OK. On the other hand, I'm sort of turned off by the idea of a contract. If he can't make me want to do things for him via sheer masculine force of will, I kind of don't want to do things for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:23 PM
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OP, you're giving this dork exactly what he wants. ...physical injuries will make it more difficult for her to please you. It’s difficult for a girl to go down on you when she has a broken jaw, for example. Oh Jesus that is cringeworthy. The whole article is. There's nothing to worry about, OP. Men like this don't dominate anyone or anything and I pity any woman who looks for him to do so. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:21 PM
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Ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:02 PM
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If I post a story about a man acting like a retard in his romantic life, will it prove all men are retards in their romantic lives? No? Well then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:35 PM
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OP, are you at all willing to consider explanations other than "the women who go on these dates all do it because tingles/wet panties and the men who do it know they have zero chance"? I mean, this is the second thread you've posted about this and, just like the first one, you seem absolutely convinced that you know the minds of these women (and the men). You think the woman who won the date with Clooney was hoping for sex with him. How can you know this? That's not a rhetorical question - how d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:27 PM
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It's only disgusting slander because fiat said it. If you said it, I wuold agree, as I have with Drunkgirl69, who is nice and not a horrible RP piggy like fiat. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:35 PM
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Yes. Because fruitenvrac is a filthy hypergamous whore, all women are filthy hypergamous whores. For shame, fellow whores!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:06 PM
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What? Like a dude who won a date with Jessica Alba wouldn't want to see her again? Also I'm pretty sure that woman knew damned well she wasn't going to get a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:05 PM
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Disgusting slander.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:02 PM
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Ha, well, I've been told I'm a gay man trapped in a woman's body before so... :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:59 PM
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Wubz, wat? If I posted a story about a famous woman doing a date-contest with a civilian for charity or for promo reasons (which is what this 'date' with Clooney will have been and both people involved would have known that) and the civilian man then being effusive about her, would that prove male hypergamy? This is actually a really bad example, imo. That woman knew that neither sex nor a relationship with Clooney was on the table and so did he. It wasn't a date. It was a "spend an hour with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:55 PM
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To be clear, Xemnas, I'm not talking about strangers here. Like, not total strangers in a bar etc. I mostly meet men through my social group so even if I don't know them well or we've been very newly introduced I'll probably be in a position to spend time with them as part of a group. And in that case I will seek them out and try to spend time with them. If this necessitates getting another female friend to make sure he's at the same thing I'm at, so be it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:17 PM
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I guess I'm ok with timid men. I can see that if that was a factor you were selecting for that you'd want to test it. I definitely like the pursuit-pursuer thing too, but I think I get more thrill out of the chase than being the prey. Maybe that's where I continue to be an outlier. Totally legit. If this forum has taught me one thing it's "never assume that because you have a particular set of genitals and handle things a certain way that all people with matching genitals also handle it that way…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:14 PM
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Well, he could also covertly reject me by not asking me out. Also, OK, yeah, I made an assumption re: thinking you were saying I was being passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:06 PM
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I pretty much love being intimidated by men and don't think I'd date one who didn't intimidate me on some level(s) (note I am NOT talking about physical intimidation/feeling like he might physically kick my ass). I don't in any way try to stay away from them. Edit: Shit, this is about same sex. If this was a more-attractive-than-me woman I would probably either hang or not hang with her based on her personality. I could definitely see myself being intimidated by her hotness, too. Jelly. I just w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:04 PM
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If I get all dressed up and come sit with you and then do my best to charm your pants off, that's me doing things. Being active. Initiating. It's not an overt/masculine initiation. If I lie on my sofa sighing and waiting for attractive men to break down the door and ask me on dates, then you can accuse me of passivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:59 PM
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Do you think, OP, that women can be non-passive even if they don't do the literal 'asking out'? If you asked me if I had pursued men before I would say yes. If you asked me if I had asked men out before (i.e. on a date, I ask male friends out to do stuff all the time) I would say no. But it's not like I develop a crush on someone or someone catches my eye and I just lie quietly on the sofa on the off-chance he'll show up and ask me out. If there's someone I'm into, I definitely signal interest. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:39 PM
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Yes, definitely. See my response to yesterday's Amy Shumer post (the one about the women at the bridal shower). Any of that "if you can't handle me at my worst" stuff and we can't be friends, at all, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:26 PM
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Me too. She's totally someone I want to hang out with. Fun, smart, not too afraid of looking unlaydeelike to hide her raunchy side etc. Also I thought about what I said and actually I think I was a little hasty. It isn't feminists or bloops (in my circle) who dislike her. Some of them are but it isn't what distinguishes them from the ones who like AS. It's the ones who feel, on some deep level, that there's something a bit icky about a woman talking about sex in a way that's vulgar or raunchy or…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:54 AM
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OK, OP. Thoughts: Would you respond any better to the women/Bloopies in this thread if, instead of saying "RP encourages men to mistreat women and I don't want to be mistreated" they were to soften their tone to something like "I would perceive the way RP encourages men to treat women, if applied to me, as mistreatment, I dislike being mistreated and therefore do not want to be with an RP dude"? Henry Cavill is RP? Since when? Oh, you mean Henry Cavill is attractive? And BP says attractive men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:39 AM
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DING. DING DING DING! (will answer OP in more depth in another post, pls don't hurt me mods)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:21 AM
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I like chivalry. It's more civility and manners than "women are weak af and can't do shit for themselves SO I GUESS I HAVE TO." Imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:31 AM
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It becomes more and more clear that this is, in fact, exactly what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:29 AM
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Oh. Dear. That's a speed-of-light social excommunication in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:25 AM
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That's a man, baby. That's specifically a man with a cuckold/small-dick-humiliation fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:39 PM
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I'm interested by how many of my more blue/feminist-leaning friends have the same reaction to her. Not saying they're wrong (or you're wrong), cuz we likes what we likes, but it's interesting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:34 PM
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Some social settings require a level of formality and discretion The Confession Game, which most women over the age of eleven or so are familiar with, is very specifically designed to NOT be one of these situations. Those bitches were playing it wrong and Amy called 'em out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:32 PM
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Ikr. Girl, if you didn't want any actual confessions at your bridal shower, you shouldn't have initiated the confession game with your fellow personality-voids in twinsets AND AMY SCHUMER (or really, any non-personality-void over the age of 16). I would have been so tempted to do what Amy did. She was calling them out. Was it going to be socially frowned upon? Yes. Was that the whole point? Yes. It was ultimately a bonding exercise anyway, because all those women were probably locked into one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:22 PM
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Oh man, if that story is true, all I want to do is high-five Amy Schumer. Yeah, yeah, 'sensitivity', 'not the right place/time' etc. Sure. Still funny af tho. "I sometimes wake up and eat ice cream tee hee!" Barf. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:06 PM
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So, Xemnas, are we to take it that you're finally 'there'? And by there I mean that you have arrived at a place where you feel entirely justified in giving up and spending your life in a state of I'm-a-victim-in-literally-every-situation-so-there's-no-point-in-trying-for-anything-ever? I've got to say, Manosphere, I am totally impressed. Never have I had a set of memes on the Internet make me lose a girlfriend and friend of 7 years, need anti-anxiety medication and have to take sick leave for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:06 PM
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Can you link me to the study you're referencing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 10:51 PM
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I can't believe you called this poster out for that. Of all the egregious, rule-breaking stuff that gets posted on this sub, she gets called out for using the word "literally"? Tut. Edit: and btw, hilariously, I agree with you, in principle. it's just making me lol at how completely random the enforcement seems to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 10:48 PM
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veggie oil frozen and chopped up I just had to go sit in the corner in the dark for 10 mins because of this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:41 AM
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What did you want them to use (I'm not being an ass, I'm now genuinely curious about what you could use to make croissants other than butter - it has to be something that's solid at room temp. Lard? Lard croissants? fuck it, I'd eat 'em.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:08 AM
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I'm starting to suspect you've got a masochistic streak, Xemnas. Strongly starting to suspect, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:07 AM
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Sleep in until completely sleep-satisfied. Lazy, slow, Sunday morning sex. Go to a cafe for coffee, reading papers, croissant. Market for food to cook together later. Leisurely walk in the park. Go home to make supper together. Eat supper. Watching something good on TV/movie/reading books whilst snuggling. More sex. Bedtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:05 AM
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croissant without butter Out of curiosity, where did they give you shit for an unbuttered croissant? That's perfectly normal. Many (and most ppl I know) people here eat them unbuttered. I think I'm just going to comment on baked good mentions in PPD now. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:03 AM
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you are a victim and he is an oppressive tyrant That's wrong, though, isn't it? Men aren't oppressive tyrants. Women are. Men are the victims and women are the oppressive tyrants, right? Get better reading material, man. Not Kipling, though. You've already got a head full of just-so stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:57 PM
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WHY WOULD YOU PUT ZUCCHINI IN CAKE? Whoa, whoa, WHOA. Now, women being shitbots with inborn pathological narcissism is one thing. But you think putting zucchini in cake is bad? And, bro, (sis?), I'm not even a vegetarian. Zucchini in choc cake is awesome, you don't taste it at all but it makes the cake a lot lighter/moister. Ah, what am I saying. You have no sympathy for those of us who like zucchini in our cake. You love mocking us. Fuck you. I hate you. You're worthless. Now feel sorry for mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:36 PM
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Your comment implies I really care if you guys think I am a sociopath No, it doesn't. I have absolutely no idea if you care about being accused of sociopathy. I am not accusing you of it. I have no idea if Hackey from the internet is a sociopath, nor do I have any interest in diagnosing him. The 'you' is general, and I think it was general in wub's post. It wasn't a personal you-as-in-specifically-you-Hackey23. "If you can only get aroused by having women rub their bare feet on you, you're a foo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:51 PM
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This is probably going to be impossible to talk about. I'd need an in-depth explanation of "it works" for one thing. How does it work? What is your/RP's definition of "it works"? It is as simple as "I get my dick into more vaginas with RP"? I had to take responsibility for everything that has happened to me in my life even if it wasn't my fault. This has helped me take responsibility for my child hood (what you guys call victim blaming) and helped me forgive my father No therapist had ever told …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:45 PM
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/u/wub1234 is right, though. His bald, brief statement is correct. If you lack all sense of empathy and morality you are a sociopath (or a psychopath depending on what definitions we're using). It's the definition of the word. He's not saying you're a sociopath, necessarily. We don't have enough info about you to say that. Nor is anyone accusing all RPs of being sociopaths. He's just saying if you lack empathy/morality, you're a sociopath. If it helps, I don't think all or most or even many RPs …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:21 PM
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You know what this reminds me of? Fame. You see SO many interviews with post-famous people talking about how fame isn't all it's cracked up to be, it's actually a total pain in the ass, all this time I thought it would be incredibly validating but in many ways it's the exact opposite, they don't know me, I feel like a 'thing' etc. And you also see a LOT of non-famous people who would like to be famous/a celeb more than anything. Listen, nobody gets what they want all the time. Would it be nice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 07:24 PM
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Building the kind of career that leads to a life of frequent world travel and yachts? I mean, yeah, it probably CAN be done, but I doubt it would be easy. Little kids are really really good at monopolizing attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:50 PM
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Sometime females get so much validation it's worthless. That isn't what I said. And you know it. I thought it was generally accepted here that men are the sex more likely to crave validation in the specific form of sexual attention from others, including strangers? it's hard to feel properly validated, ya know This also isn't what I said. I mean, do you deny that women receive a LOT more attention of the "whoa, I'd really like to bang you" variety than men do? Is this a misunderstanding we've go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:45 PM
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The earlier years yes Yes what? Yes they need a SAHP during this time? Then...stay at home? I mean, I guess you'll have to make a choice here about whether or not to have kids. I.e. if it's worth it to you or not to take time off from career-building to stay home during their early years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:29 PM
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just socializing wouldn't really make me happy. Am I understanding you right - that being a (non-rich) SAHM is mostly about socializing? I.e. with other adults? Or do you mean with the children themselves? A lot of the complaints you hear from SAHMs is how isolating it is because they don't spend a lot of time with other adults and the work, esp. if the kids are very young, is often of the not-intellectually-stimulating drudgery kind (cleaning, changing diapers, prepping baby food etc.). If you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:21 PM
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The woman can get validation from the men interested in her romantically, she can post a sad status and get emotional support, or she can post a hot picture and get compliments on her looks. I know some dudes don't like this but for many women (not all, I recognize that Instagram whores - and very young women - the under-20s - exist) this sort of attention is meaningless. It means: "I want to fuck you." And men want to fuck a LOT of women. It's not personal, it says nothing about the woman herse…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 06:44 AM
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Yes. I hate you more than Saudi Arabia and ISIS combined, bro. TRP is literally worse than the holocaust. Literally. Literally. OP u need hugs!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 06:40 AM
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Very rarely if ever do you see a girl commenting on how cute a guy is on the internet, nor do you hear it often in person. If I walk up to a dude on the street and tell him he looks awesome in his t-shirt, there's a not-small chance he's going to interpret that as a direct sexual come-on. Is he a bad person for it? Nope, I don't know him. But it's definitely the reason I don't compliment men irl or online with anything like the frequency I do women. Conversely, I often compliment women, includin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 06:37 AM
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This is great to see, Xemnas. You should be questioning this stuff. Got two RP big dogs backed up against the wall in this discussion. Well done. Also, note, I am not trying to convince you of anything or the rightness or wrongness of red, purple, blue or no pills. But you've handed out a decent hammering here and it's awesome to see. Keep questioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 06:01 AM
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These mental connections are useless in a single focused task No. So what those mental connections do is allow for rationalization regarding survival (among other things). When a girl is forced to think about having sex with her family's killer, her mind begins working to demonize her family by bringing up memories of their bad behavior. The girl's egocentrism does not allow her to consider their motives or emotions, it only considers how the actions impacted her. No. This is an egregious post, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:57 AM
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It's easiest for me to pick least favourite decades with this vid: 70s and 90s. I like all the pre-70s ones (although I have some issues with the pant lengths and fit for some of them) and the 2015 is OK apart from the hair and facial hair styling of the model, which is bad, imo. I like men who style themselves to look like adults (if they are - can't stand 40 yr old dudes who still dress like frat boys), fairly classic style (button down shirts etc.) with some personal touches that don't cross …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 02:13 AM
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Guuuuurrrrrllll... Can I ask you a question? Why did you go ahead and have sex with this guy? Be specific. Because nothing about the way you've described him makes him sound attractive. Was he super hot? Now I'll answer your questions: Did the man in question do anything "wrong"? No. It sounds like he was pretty straight-up with who he was. Dick move saying he would drive you home and then not doing it tho. Is the man "alpha" from a TRP perspective? From a TRP perspective? Yes. From my perspecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:58 PM
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Only women are crazy enough to enjoy feelings in sex which would be negative outside of it. Aaaand there it is. You showed your hand with this line. Dat bad faith, dude. And you know what? As to more women enjoying being dominated more than they enjoy dominating in bed? That's true, I think, at least in my experience and my observations of others. I think more men like to dominate than to be dominated, too (although I think a lot more men want to be dominated than women want to dominate them - p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 08:39 AM
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It is true. Even if you just look at online options, any woman who sets up a dating profile and Tinder account will get bombarded. It's almost inevitable. Her biggest issue will be constructing a strategy to work out who to respond to. This has been absolutely proven beyond all doubt. If you just read the comments here then there is anecdotal evidence to support this, and if you seek them out people have even done studies and found that even average women get numerous times, in excess of 1,000% …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 09:01 PM
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As a woman, do you prefer to be dehumanized and used as a masturbatory aid during sex? Does it give you 'great sex' when this happens? No. That's a very simple no, too. And my preference when it comes to sex is for very dominant men (not in the BDSM sense, tho, haven't tried it if we're talking whips/chains/gimp outfits etc.). Male sexual dominance is a weird thing. People have some really differing ideas as to what constitutes it. I often see dudes here describing their idea of it and I'm just …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 08:44 PM
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are you really calling me a slut? tsk tsk. Yeah, top-notch debate from ol' Pem here. "You disagree with me? You must be a slut!" He doesn't even have the balls to do it directly. FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:20 PM
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Babies are easy, Xemnas. Just spend time with her. The more time you spend with her doing fun stuff (i.e. playing) the more she'll be lighting up whenever you walk into the room. She can sense your awkwardness, not your 'omeganess' or whatever. The more time you spend with her the more relaxed you'll be and the more relaxed she'll be. Toddlers ARE 'put in fun and ice-cream, get out love' machines.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:48 PM
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I've read through this whole thread and I couldn't stop thinking that the RP response wouldn't be in alignment with yours. We constantly get articles posted on how women over 30 are losing out, once you hit 30 the SMV switches and men's goes up whilst women's goes down. This woman you saw was in her late 30s and wants a baby. Isn't it RP itself that says she should be desperately looking to secure her BB? They often say this starts in the late 20s, actually. I don't share your view that "women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:23 PM
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Well, how are you defining "trend"? Are you saying "some women like very violent, aggressive criminals"? Because if you are, I agree. Some do. I don't think most do and I don't think many do, but sure, they exist. Unwarranted violence/aggression is genuinely a turn-off for me (and I will freely admit I like masculine men). It signals a lack of control to me, as well as insecurity (a lot of those super fighty men are trying to prove something) and those aren't attractors to me, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:04 PM
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I didn't mean to imply a dichotomy. "All men are either capable of finding all female comedians funny or they're sexist." I didn't mean that. I meant there seems to be a few men who are not capable of seeing any women they don't know very well as anything more than a thing that's either sexuall attractive or not sexually attractive and nothing else. There's every chance you're not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:01 PM
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I think I might say "context." Context is everything when it comes to aggression and/or violence. There are some situations in which I find violence appropriate. Let's use pub closing time as an example. You live in the UK so you're aware that there's often one (or more!) drunk asshole just spoiling for a fight, often with someone much smaller/weaker than him who hasn't done anything to deserve it. A man stepping up and defending his smaller friend from drunken twathead with measured (measured i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:52 PM
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"Attention." You know what most of that attention is, right? Wanting to fuck her. And no matter how many men think this situation of women wanting to fuck them all the time is a fantasy, it isn't for most women. We don't want to fuck everyone. We generally want to fuck one guy. You keep insisting in this thread that she "thought she could do better" and resisting suggestions from others - she didn't feel a spark, she thought she'd be at risk of losing you to a younger woman (she even brought thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:11 AM
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Maybe, just maybe, it speaks to a woman's solipsist nature... Maybe. Sometimes i think it's a certain type of man. The type of man who sees women outside of his immediate family/wife/gf/crush circle as fuckable vs not fuckable. Not fuckable = no interest. Not in anything she has to say or anything she thinks etc. Not all men are like this. I don't even think most or many are. But I think I've run into a few. Even the fuckable ones aren't 'interesting' to these men. Maybe Amy Schumer is unfunny. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:56 AM
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aggression There is so much more nuance in this word than you're allowing for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:52 AM
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I'm gonna assume, OP, that you think a woman loving a man's morals or a man loving a woman's personality is...rare? Outlier situation? There's a lot of talk on this board of 'alphas' being violent criminals and psychopaths - it doesn't seem your thoughts are strange, not round these parts anyway. But I have to say, a man with a moral code? A man who doesn't bully the weak? A man who stands up for what he believes in even if it's unpopular? A man who protects those he loves? Not much is hotter th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:51 AM
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A friend of mine fancies the hell out of Ramsey and I never understood it. Then I watched a UK show (Misfits) that he's in and god. damn. He's hot as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:45 AM
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I've literally got up and left women to walk home alone, and they had to walk through ghettos because these women wouldn't fuck me. No sex? Then you are dead to me. And that's exactly the kind of male women are trying to weed out with their "no sex right off the bat" strategy. A woman who doesn't have sex with you and is then ignored by you for the rest of time has successfully implemented her strategy (as you have successfully implemented yours - the one of not getting involved with women who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 08:29 PM
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You're an interesting person (the way you handle yourself interests me is what I mean) and I don't think you get enough credit around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 10:52 PM
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Then you should DEFINITELY stop watching it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 10:48 PM
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What actions would you take? None except observation. I would back right off. Regardless of whether or not I trusted him. Observing the way someone would handle themselves in this situation, with no pressure, is invaluable information about that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:13 AM
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This assertion here is the core of our disagreement. Yes, that's exactly it. It's "is the part of TRP that sees women as inherently selfish, fickle, shallow etc." true or not. And you're absolutely right to state that anyone making such assertions should expect scrutiny. With regards to the "bigoted bugaboos" you mention, the disagreement is here: Ah, but what if he's right ? What if, rather than being a good meme because it is a clever, perhaps, unconscious ploy to keep the minds in...... It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:58 AM
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No sarcasm. 5000+ men rot in prison for daring to exist in my general vicinity. And rightly so, the rapey-rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:16 AM
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Female. Wouldn't react. In fact I would be less likely to even look at an extremely unattractive person because I wouldn't want them to think I was making fun of them. In a group of friends, also no. And if anyone in that group did say anything, I would judge them for it (if they said something that the unattractive person could hear I would probably think they were a gigantic asshole and not spend any more time with them. Rude people suck.) As for have I ever done it, yeah, when I was a little …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:05 AM
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Please. This is the whole reason you come here. "Help me wank over how evil and shitty women are and thereby avoid doing anything to improve my situation!" Also I wasn't being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:03 PM
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The RPW responding to this in this thread has been sent her official 'you're out of the club' notice, due to her weak shit. Waiting til they talk to you? Girl, no. A man doesn't need to talk to me or look at me or think about me or interact with me in any way. The fact of his existence (and his penis) is enough. Do you exist? Do you have a penis? Then you're raping me. Her numbers are also way too low. I have been solely responsible for the jailing and ruination of 5000+ betas, Xemnas. I'm typin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 08:23 PM
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They're not willing to defend the right of someone else to have free speech, so they don't have the right to it themselves. That's not how it works. You have the right to free speech (in certain societies) with no preconditions. No laws have been broken here. Not by the DJ and not by the petition-signers (and let's keep in mind that we're talking about the BBC - the people signing that petition are license-fee payers - they are explicitly funding BBC content and have, imo, even more of an intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:29 PM
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Sometimes, not often, but sometimes, I just want to give all the red pillers hugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:49 AM
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Red Pill, the fact that humans are attracted to attractive humans isn't some secret knowledge you've just discovered.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:25 AM
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A woman didn't write that. That is pure male torture/wank (depending how how big, or not, your cuckold fantasy is) fantasy. FFS, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:19 AM
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kaaaaah-ringe!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 11:53 PM
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You're just not assholing hard enough, radical one. Just yesterday a man on the sidewalk straight sucker-punched me in the stomach. I couldn't speak for a few minutes but when I could it was to gasp: "Please...fuck me...sir." He thought I was so vile we ended up having marathon sex alllllll night. sigh Telling her she sickens you and should burn in hell is some pussy shit, bro. Physical violence is the way to go. Perhaps literally puking on her to indicate the level of your utter disgust? Some c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 11:52 PM
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Oh, yay! I'm happy to hear this and I hope things keep going well and getting better. Also hope you're getting your pain issue sorted out. Have a good weekend, Guitars The Friendly Redpill! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 11:45 PM
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Physically unattractive? Like, how physically unattractive? It's somewhat rare to meet men I would immediately put in the "hot af, must have sex with or die" OR the "so hideous the idea of touching him makes me projectile vomit" categories. But has serious attraction grown from no initial attraction? Yes. But it never happens in a single night. It takes weeks/months for that kind of attraction to grow, because it means getting to know someone quite well. It works the opposite way, too (and in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:49 PM
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I don't know how clear it needs to be! Well, you could make it more clear by saying something like: "I'm a writer. In the style of Hemingway. But better than Hemingway." :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:38 PM
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If you work somewhere with a dress code, you have an obligation to adhere to that dress code. If you work somewhere with a sexual harassment policy, you have an obligation to adhere to that policy. Imo, the outfit in the OP is in no way appropriate to most workplaces (and I'm thinking mostly of office-type places here - if one works in a nightclub/bar/restaurant - especially one that hires staff based on their hotness - it could be perfectly fine). That outfit shows major cleavage, midriff, skin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:28 PM
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Would you or 'women' prefer a world where men were limited in expressing how they feel and it was preferable to have men die of stress than be able to share something which would put women in a bad light? Well yes, obviously. And please dig your own graves first because I don't want to break a nail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:10 AM
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I really like your posts, Guitars. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:00 AM
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Can I clarify something? When you're using "proscriptive" in the above post (the one I'm replying to) do you mean 'prescriptive'?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 08:34 PM
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Well, OP, I'm not sure you've come to the right place to ask these questions. A lot of people here are, let's say, very invested in their worldview being the correct worldview and a lot of the advice/responses you're going to get from these people is going to be more about them/their beliefs than it is about you. We don't have enough information to really advise you in a useful way anyway. Your whole post is reinforcing my own profound doubts about marriage, btw, but I'll try to keep in mind it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 08:19 PM
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Yeah, according to the definition of 'should' you aren't wrong. Greasy is doing his usual thing of putting the responsibility for the confusion over what specific definition of 'should' was being used. According to the definition, "TRP tells men what they should do" isn't wrong. If, after that, we all go and say "well, I'm using 'should' this way or that way" hopefully we can then move past that, after realizing the same word was being used to mean slightly different things and this this is a)no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 07:36 PM
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But, dude. At the very beginning of the argument, you said: We are not telling them "How they should act". You are. You posted the dictionary definition of "should" and, according to the 3rd and 4th definitions, yes, TRP is telling men how they should act. Neither you nor the poster you're arguing with identified what specific part of the definition of the word "should" you were using early in the argument. I don't think either of you have proven yourselves 'wrong' or 'right' but I think you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 07:25 PM
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1000x this. Being able to converse about a wide range of subjects is awesome in a member of the opposite sex. Even if it's a new subject, you can still mull it over and offer thoughts. Not everyone knows everything. People who know they don't know everything but are still sharp enough to be curious and thoughtful are the best kind, imo. A few people have pointed it out already but the OPs question is very based on a particular (and, to my mind, currently widespread) definition of intelligence. K…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 02:12 AM
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Specifically trying to rile people up gets articles written about me, like this one on Business Insider and this one by David Futerelle gives me publicity. I know. You're not here to debate, you're here to raise your profile in order to get publicity/sell t-shirts/eventually sell a book. That's fine, but I stand by your poke-poke-poke tactics as generally unhelpful when it comes to useful debate at PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 11:03 PM
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Oh shit that Onion article is painfully accurate. I've met that guy a few times. More times than I care to remember, actually. My shit tests are also very much along the same lines as yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 10:55 PM
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The Blue Pill isn't about debating the Red Pill its about attacking a straw man and circle jerking to the thought of being a good progressive. Interestingly, this is exactly why we can't have nice debate here at PPD. Because so many of us start from this "those other people are circle-jerking morons with no interest in learning anything" position. BP and RP both have a lot of circle-jerking morons, King Lube. Your specific brand of deliberately trying to rile people up because lulz doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 10:46 PM
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My body just starts to itch whenever I read a post like that because the need to "defend" women Dude, I'm a woman and that shit makes me itch, too. It's not helpful to take annoyance at a single person's stance and then project it onto a wider group. I doubt you'll get many (if any) responses here that run along the lines of "women definitely have it harder, no question." Take heart from the fact that so many non-RP people actually don't think women have it super hard and all men are living life…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 10:34 PM
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I think what's between someone's legs, if that person is born in the west, has very little to do with how hard or not-hard their life is. That's my answer as succinctly as I can put it. Men and women face some different challenges and many similiar ones, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 10:31 PM
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So in your opinion, what purpose do you think such statements serve at TRP? Honestly? On a basic, psychological level, I think it makes them feel tough. Impervious. Above 'feminine' things like feels and emotions and, ugh (/s), morality. I find RP thinking as a whole very adolescent. It's the kind of philosophizin' teenage boys do. "Look at those weak pussies caring about feeeeeelings, I'm too ice-cold/dark triad to give a shit about any of that." Why do they allow this stuff, is it just poor qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 10:22 PM
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I agree with you that moralising is bad I don't think moralizing is necessarily bad at all. I think a lot of modern western culture has an allergy to it, and that's interesting and historically quite odd. On the one hand, it's true that "well I believe X is wrong" can be something that shuts down a convo. On the other hand, it's very frustrating that discussing morality seems to be off-limits in so many cases, because so much of what gets discussed here at PPD is about personal morals. And it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 10:12 PM
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You talk about love, I always based my relationship on Love, it never finish well for me. Completely normal. This is an almost universal human experience. Love means accepting the possibility of pain. Love = vulnerability and the possibility of loss. there is another way to have a good relationship (didn't find how so far :p ) without that level of emotional attachment. Well, good luck with that. I don't think it's possible, for the vast majority of humans. We're hardwired to need each other, to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 12:05 AM
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The oldest teenager in the house is a shit test. Is it? I'm not sure everyone at TRP knows this. I've had long discussions with RPers who do not in any way seem to be under the impression that the statement is anything other than the plain truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 11:59 PM
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Eitherway, it is still censorship. Yes, it is. They're banning certain types of speech. That's fine, it's their right. But you can't do that AND claim "we don't censor." You do, RP. I also disagree that their stance is even akin to "no moralizing allowed." What they don't allow is moralizing they don't like and/or don't agree with. "Single mothers are subhuman scum" is a moral statement. Single mothers are bad. And once again, they are FREE to believe this, nor do I have any interest in arguing …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 11:56 PM
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RP does not promote being Chad, it uses Chad as a caricature of the kind of male-bimbo that a lot of women would blow in the parking lot Alright. I mean, I thought RP wanted to be the guy who gets blown in the parking lot, but I accept that 'Chad' is an ambiguous figure if you say so (no sarcasm there, btw). You might not fall for him specifically, but you do admit that there are some men who you'd find parking lot blowjob worthy. I suspect that those men probably fall in a different bucket for …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:56 PM
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Does anyone seriously think Islam and it's culture have a hope in hell of out competing us ? Some people do. They're wrong, but they do. I think there's something about a certain mindset that needs an enemy, a boogieman. We just switch out who that enemy is depending on the time and cultural context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:23 PM
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Women are not my enemies, but I love (some) women, I am attracted to (some) women. This is when as a man, it can be a "problem", because of my previous sentence, it means that some women can fucking hurt me. I agree with this and it's true for all non-sociopath human beings. Men need women. Women need men. Needing someone gives that person power over you in a sense. Needing someone makes you vulnerable. It opens the possibility of being badly hurt. It's nothing that bad the most part of the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:15 PM
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I don't want to find another guy, but I am flattered when an attractive man makes an attempt at flirting with me. I try not to crave it, but I feel like we women are hardwired that way. Do you really see this - the feeling flattered at the attention of an attractive member of the opposite sex - as exclusive to women? I have a couple of older, male, married friends and they will get a noticeable spring in their step when a hot woman flirts with them. I feel like this is pretty harmless (in both s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 07:42 PM
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A Levels are compulsory for everyone nowadays Really? Huh, I didn't know that. I did my A-Levels in the UK in the mid 00s, I wonder when it changed? Why did they make it compulsory? It already seems like way too many people are being funneled into higher education. Plenty of working class peeps go to uni in the UK, it's not just for the middle classes. Yeah, I know. I was more speaking along the lines of working class vs middle class parents and their ambitions for their children. Middle-class p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 06:42 AM
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I like you, SigmaStigma, so I'm going to answer this honestly. note that I am not making larger statements about women in general - this is entirely my personal opinion. Are there men on this earth who could make me want to blow them in the parking lot? yes. Is this man one of them? No. Hell no. A week or so ago I discovered that many RP men think the Situation (of Jersey Shore fame) is 'high-value'. It was baffling. No part of me sees him that way. It's my same reaction to this guy. This guy su…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 06:32 AM
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The responses this is getting (and the OP, which is from someone I think of as a 'hard red') are indicative of one of my major problems with red pill (and my major problem with a certain faction of feminism). It illustrates how viewing information through a highly-focused lens can be less than useful. In order to draw more reliable conclusions, it would be nice to have more info (results at A-Level, who goes on to university and then results of that, plus post-university life/income) but there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 08:02 PM
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Yeah, the OP should have noted this was a UK study, that's of major importance. I'd say class is a much bigger hindrance to success in life compared to race in the UK, whareas it seems to be the inverse in the US Yep, this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 07:22 PM
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The average white dude is Cera (oops, typo from me there). You definitely like prettier white boys than me, although the one with his face not showing properly does look hot. The Rugby dude is insanity level hot. Him and the Asian(s?) are the hottest imo. Last white dude I don't find attractive at all, second white dude would be fine without the fucking man bun. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 07:09 PM
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Your second 'hot' black dude is...haaaawt. I find fourth hot black dude not as hot as first average black dude. I think it might be the latter's playful expression. I like it when men take the piss out of me and he looks like he just has. We have differing taste in white men (Cena is well below average, imo) but the two Asian hotties are both extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:54 PM
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She's a proper head-turner, isn't she? I would double-take her on the street for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:51 PM
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I'm a straight woman but it appears we have very similiar taste in female beauty. That GoT actress is properly fug to me. A few male friends really fancy her and I just can't get my head around it, her face just looks ugly to me. And Kat Dennings is beautiful, very feminine etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:50 PM
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How is it possible to be attracted to such a weak, sniveling, baby-puke-covered, helpless, spineless, emasculated cuckold fuckface wimp? (I'm being sarcastic btw, but i feel like you're gonna be answering a few non-sarcastic questions of this bent) :) Edit: My male best friend does most of the childcare (his wife makes more $ than he does and they live in a very expensive city - it made practical sense for her to keep working instead of him) and it works fine for them. No one in our social group…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:43 PM
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You said: Are you or are you not attracted physically to men? Do you see a man and appreciate his body? She said: As I said I like men. Thus their bodies. She also said: No his body doesn't compute into how much I "respect him." And you STILL haven't answered how, specifically, a male body = respect. You haven't in any way explained this or how it works after being repeatedly asked to do so. Is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:21 PM
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Wait, what? One can't be 'feminist' unless they're primarily concerned with sex trafficking? Why do you get to tell this guy his feminism is lesser-then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:10 PM
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She already said she is physically/sexually attracted to men's bodies. You're avoiding explaining yourself, still.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:04 PM
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At no point did this poster make a general "body type doesn't matter" statement. She said body type creates sexual attraction, not respect. She's also repeatedly asked you to spell out how body type = respect and you're dodging it. Go on, how does male body type = respect? Can you explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:04 PM
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I sometimes get an odd feeling like Xemnas enjoys being told he's a Total Loser (TM). I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:33 PM
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The author of that article uses 'tenants' instead of 'tenets' and I am now a PUA because of it. Thanks, asshole. OK, just kidding. But people who make that specific mistake need to be shot. I didn't find any of the Owen vids offensive, btw. The VICE article is a great example of the willful (and, imo, completely mutual), deliberate misunderstanding and lack of good faith in these cultural conversations between PUA types and feminist types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:48 PM
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I think a good chunk of Red Pill is loathsome bullshit, but I watched the vid (edit: the recommended 15 mins) and was surprisingly in agreement with almost everything the dude said. Reactions from others here would be genuinely interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:43 PM
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OP, man, I feel bad for the response you're getting here. I think this video (I just watched the 15 min chunk you recommended) actually does what you say it does: give insight into PUA. It's also literally the first time I've ever seen footage/read something by one of these guys and thought 'huh, yeah, I could have a conversation with that guy, he doesn't seem insane or hateful." (note: 'covnersation' isn't code for sexual attraction...I literally just mean an interesting convo) I don't know a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:42 PM
1

Oh my god.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:41 AM
2

Ooh, yes pls!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:00 AM
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Stupid blue pill. Fish! Fisherman! Bait! Fishing! Fish! Fish! You just got rekt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:54 AM
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Can I ask you a question, Xemnas? You seem eager to repeatedly impress upon us the fact that you are a thoroughly fucked-up human being. For the sake of argument, let's assume you're right. Paranoid, obsessive, misogynist, depressed, ASD, beta, weak, hypochondriac etc. etc. These are all words you've used to describe yourself. Now, assuming they're all true, what is it, exactly, that leads you to trust your own thoughts? What leads you to think you are equipped at this point in time, to sensibly…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:52 AM
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Mmm, I think you're being deliberately obtuse here. If you're not, and if you genuinely didn't read the implied "to me" after "the absolute sexiest, best man ever" then let me clarify that it was, indeed, intended. I have never in my life thought something along the lines of "because I think X is the sexiest, best man ever, then he is also objectively the sexiest, best man ever and anyone else who disagrees with me is wrong." I was writing about subjective, personal feelings. Nothing I said indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 03:19 AM
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I wasn't saying it's always about insecurity. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. My whole point was that it's almost certainly NOT 'always' or 'never' insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 02:55 AM
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What? Note my use of the word "I". Me thinking I would rather be with a certain man over any other man on earth, at a given time...how is that irrational self-delusion? How is a statement about my personal feelings a 'generalization'? Surely almost everyone who has ever been in a relationship has felt this at some point? I don't necessarily believe in soul-mates, either. But I have, at time sin my life, quite genuinely and honestly felt "I would rather be with no one else but this person, right …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 02:55 AM
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Yeah, you know what, I don't disagree with you. As it is, I'm very aware of where I'm posting. I sort of assume that it's at least somewhat taken as a given that when someone says "men's" on this sub, they mean "men like the ones who post here". I wasn't clear and I apologize. Men are horny af but so are a lot of women and it doesn't mean all men want to bang random strangers at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 02:45 AM
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But is that because we don't feel it as often or at the intensity they do? And we know at the end of the day we can sate it? I don't think I would enjoy that "edging" sort of self-foreplay if it were more fatalistic and unlikely that there would be a release. I mean, on the one hand, we (men or women) can't know if another person feels something more or less intensely than us. But I remember this feeling - or, I remember first recognizing this feeling - in my teens, when I was a virgin. And I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 07:56 PM
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I don't disagree with you, Gridrexx. When I am in the midst of those few days a month, my standards get lower (they also, even for me, skew more towards the masculine). I definitely start looking at men through that "fuckable/not fuckable" lens you talk about. And I don't mean men I know, I mean randomers on the street, taxi drivers, dudes at the bar etc. It's funny that you've gone off BC and are experiencing this right now. Heh. What I will say is that although i've often wondered to myself, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 07:07 PM
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Im not insecure at all. Cool. I wasn't accusing any particular individuals of being insecure. Nor was I trying to convince men who don't fancy promiscuous women to get with promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 06:57 PM
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I find it almost impossible to have conversations about this on PPD. So many people have very rigid views. "ALL women who have dated Chads in the past will be forever comparing their current bfs to these Chads and finding current guy wanting" vs "No women ever think about past boyfriends and how hot they were. No women ever compare current men to past men." Some women will be comparing their bfs to a Chad they once dated. Some won't. What I can say, for myself and with certainty, is that when I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 06:47 PM
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Guitars, this is how you do it, man. Making posts, I mean. I still don't know what's gotten into you but whatever it is, it's good. Asking questions and genuinely being open to varying answers? Yay! So. About your issue. I'm slightly surprised to read it, because it's not something I've ever encountered (as the female in a number of close, platonic male-female friendships). I guess it boils down to three options: It's you. It's them. Some combo of the above. It's probably three. That said, the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 05:40 AM
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Ugly, fine, I accept that other people have a blind spot to Wayne's outstanding masculine beauty, but skinnyfat? Dude, no. Skinny really, really isn't my thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 05:23 AM
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FWIW, I hate ManU too. Very confusing when watching their matches. And, yeah, Rooney. He is genuinely the sexiest thing ever. he was sexier when he was younger but still...still. What /u/fiat_lux_ says below isn't untrue, either. I like men who are physically capable. The difference between Rooney, who can do shit with a football that very few other people on earth can, his plain physical skill etc. and some coiffed, oiled-up (male) gym bunny on the cover of a men's mag who you know goddamned we…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 05:13 AM
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Alright, yes, fine, I concede. If those dudes I posted are 'strongfat' then I guess I do like strongfat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:29 PM
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Have it with someone who really, really wants to have it with you. And really really want to have it with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:23 PM
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If we were all just hanging out irl the next person who accused me of liking fatties would get punched in the face (and I'm a woman so none of you would be allowed to punch back and would all have to say thank you for the deserved punishment). But no, I don't like super low body fat on men. I like heft. Density. Those men's mag cover models are just...ugh. But I ALSO like a muscular build. Serious muscle with some fat on top is awesome. Fat with no muscle is not awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:20 PM
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Me: female, straight (not a gay man, not a gay man, not a gay man) Al Strokosch: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01294/Alasdair_Strokosch_1294398c.jpg https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/749c3952ccba637c0f24940259c16c40c52662ff/0_0_3360_4872/master/3360.jpg?w=700&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=19694bd7120c81d3719bc5e52ee5163c Fraser Brown: http://i3.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article1949656.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS18208960.jpg (this dude also happens to have a very good-looking face, lucky him…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:16 PM
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Pate is delicious what's wrong with you? ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:29 AM
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You're responding to the wrong person...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:46 PM
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B-But what do I do at the end? Maybe serious enough case of blue balls = enlightenment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:12 PM
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That's not going to fly. I think that's what she might be talking about. You want to be taken seriously in this debate right? You want others to take your points seriously? Then you should do the same. /u/Gridrexx makes a legitimate point. If you don't want what you're saying to be instantly written off, don't instantly write off what others are saying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:45 PM
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Yeah, makes sense. I'm surprised to see you put it so bluntly ("it becomes pretty much exclusively RP if you completely ditch your moral compass") but it makes sense. Are you doing it in this thread, btw? Trying a new strategy? Being all reasonable and friendly and shit? I'm not taking the piss at all, I like it. I wish we could have more convos like it in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 01:11 AM
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Do you think that this: If what I am doing in my daily life is not getting me the outcomes I want, I think about what I am doing wrong, if I am repeating useless patterns, why, and then what I need to do to change things... is exclusively an RP thing? Or do you think it's just a thing that RP does/preaches that most other people also do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:47 PM
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Y'alls don't come across, online, as funny and witty and interesting. Doesn't mean you're not irl, but just saying, we really don't have anything to go on here except what/how people post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:45 PM
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Neither of those links do anything close to making the grey matter = logical capability OR the men have more emotional control than women statements. does not equal: differences in brain composition and structure have no biological impact And neither of your two further links say anything about male vs female logical capability, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 10:09 PM
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Neither of those links do anything close to making the grey matter = logical capability OR the men have more emotional control than women statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 09:25 PM
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You cat people. You make me suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:14 PM
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brittfault's WHY DO YOU ALWAYS SPELL IT THIS WAY?! edit: downvote for correct spelling? this sub is literally worse than the holocaust.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:08 PM
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I think most women have been friends with (or have themselves been) 'that girl' at some point. You know the one. The one who constantly dates useless dickheads and never shuts up about how awful he is, how badly he treats her etc. When this happen you can take one of two routes: Try and genuinely express to her that she shouldn't be surprised by the fact that some dude who gave every signal of being shit boyfriend material has turned out to actually be a shitty boyfriend and gently suggest she p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:22 PM
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I don't understand this hostile tone. Lying? What? You think I came here to fight? I am discussing a sociobiological concept with guys I expected to be like-minded (I am generally getting along well with the Manosphere) and get treated like some hostile SJW. This is not an uncommon thing at PPD. Not everyone here is interested in having a discussion where the end is a mutual understanding of differing positions (or, very rarely, an agreement of some kind). In fact many aren't interested in that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:12 PM
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If I was her employer, I would have fired her. That's unacceptable, especially from a 'diversity officer'. Laws aside (and I think she may, under UK law, be guilty of a crime), it's just a really fucking stupid thing to say, and her defense of it is even more idiotic. She's a great example of someone so enmeshed in her own ideology that she's actually hurting her overall cause (diversity?) rather than helping it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:21 PM
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I don't trust you to debate fairly. That's the truth. I won't respond further.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:12 PM
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But...this is PPD, not RP. It's a debate sub, not a how-to-get-laid sub. How you word things matters here. Being precise with language matters. Someone could come to PPD and have NO IDEA that "AWALT" actually seems to mean "NAWALT, but AWALT because utility." As OP has pointed out, it isn't even clear which RPers are using 'AWALT' to literally mean AWALT and which ones are using it the other way. If you don't know the other person's actual position (and you often don't here) it isn't helpful at …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:56 PM
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Yeah, that one needs to be banned, along with reginaradfem or whatever the name was.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:45 PM
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Damn, this comment from me got SO much pushback! And from a group that likes to spout the very same thing I did - that one is responsible for one's own actions and behaviours. Do you disagree that a person is responsible for those things? Are certain groups of men comparable to middle-aged peasants?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:22 PM
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While you have to admit using a word like bad while NOT moralizing is worded poorly As stated, I thought that the "toxic masculinity" was automatically assumed to be 'bad behaviour' for the purposes of argument. There's a difference between labeling a behaviour 'bad' in an argument over whether or not said behaviour is bad (i.e. a morality argument, which isn't what the OP was about) and theoretically assuming, for the purposes of argument, that a behaviour can be thought of as 'bad'. I was doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:18 PM
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I was responding to another poster. Agreeing with them that behaviour (bad, good, evil, angelic, neutral etc.) with an incentive is more likely than without one. That's all. That's really all. I used 'bad' because, as per the OP, the "toxic masculinity" was used as an example of 'something/a behaviour that women/feminists see as bad.' I am not and have never been moralizing about specific behaviours in this thread. No more, drok, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:41 AM
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This is the best 'weird crush'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:22 AM
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IKR!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:17 AM
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You are still applying labels that haven't been correctly justified. You want to call these behaviors bad Wut? I am using the OP's labels. I don't want to call the behaviours anything - the OP identified them as bad ("toxic masculinity") and at no point in this conversation have I made a single comment on the morality of toxic masculinity. You are arguing tangentially and against a position I did not take. This conversation has never been about "is toxic masculinity bad or not" or "the morality …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:16 AM
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Well, if he was routinely banging VS models maybe, but I watched season 1 and 2 (no shame!) of Jersey Shore and he wasn't. In fact he often came home empty-handed (and when he didn't, they were average girls iirc). Since then...I don't know who he's been banging but I would honestly be surprised if it was a bunch of high-value women. My mind is properly blown that RP thinks the Situation is an attractive man. Gah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:00 AM
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Wayne Rooney (not actually weird, everyone else is wrong) Rhys Ifans. He's all rangy and smart-mouthed and British and shit. Bill Burr. Funny. Good shoulders. Has been looking his age lately tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:42 AM
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I honestly didn't realize that 'high SMV' for men just boiled down to 'fucks a lot of women'. No sarcasm, did not realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:17 AM
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No, I get it. If there's a reward for bad behaviour, bad behaviour is more likely. I get that. The bad behaviour is, however, still the person's own responsibility. If the OP did NOT mean to blame women for bad male behaviour, fine, there's no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:10 AM
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Perhaps it's like the ravens at the Tower of London only except for ravens flying away it's black Americans becoming more or less than 12% of the population as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 12:52 AM
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Do you really have to be schooled in very basic economic and psychological principles? These are exceedingly elementary concepts. I no longer trust you to converse in good faith so we're done here. Have a good day, Pem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:30 PM
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Yes, he is. Every now and again I gain some specific insight into RP and have one of those "ah, so this is why these people sounds like they're from another planet" moments. I'm sure RP has them with non-RPs, too. The Situation as high SMV? I just...no. No. You and I have some fundamental differences of opinion re: male SMV, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:26 PM
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None of what you just said changes the fact that individual humans are responsible for their own behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:22 PM
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Well, we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:19 PM
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So you think he's high SMV, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:16 PM
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Uh, OP is basically saying that women are responsible for certain male behaviours (in this case, 'toxic masculinity'). And I'm saying no, women aren't responsible for those behaviours, the men who engage in them are. We're all responsible for how we behave, excluding the very young and some insane people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:15 PM
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Oh my god. The fact that you think the 'Situation' is a good example of a high SMV male says everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:00 PM
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You're responsible for who you are, OP. No one else. Not feminists. Not women. Not red pill. Not your parents. You.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:59 PM
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Men don't need advocates What? Like, ever? Men never need advocates?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:57 PM
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We almost got married so I definitely could have stayed with him - we were planning babies etc. Two things went wrong for us: He went from a works-sometimes (artsy type, when we met he was getting close to the dole queue) person to a works-all-the-time, often abroad for months person. I didn't like that work schedule, it made me lonely and it made him moody and borderline alcoholic. He kept promising he would ratchet down the working and after 3+ years of those promises being broken and him taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:03 PM
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Hmmmm. I'm gonna answer this before reading everyone else's answers. Two main things stick out for me: You've only known each other for a month. In no way is this enough time to get a good read on another person (if one is considering this other person for LTR/marriage). I'd say at least six months here and preferably a couple of years. So, given that, I would take all advice with a grain of salt. You still have a lot to learn about this woman. Mental health issues. That's a big deal. It's not, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:36 PM
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All I was trying to do is clarify, for myself, what you were thinking. I wasn't sure if you were equating rational egoism and healthy cynicism. Same thing with the middle ground question, because the way you worded it made it sound like you may have meant something along the lines of 'these are the only two options'. Sure there is a middle ground. Never said otherwise. OK, if that's your position, that there is a middle ground. Downthread you said this (which also made it sound like you might no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:25 PM
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Rational egoism ("the principle that an action is rational if and only if it maximizes one's self-interest." - from Wiki) is not the same thing as healthy cynicism. Also, different people are going to have different ideas re: the definition of 'healthy' cynicism. Do you really see no ground between 'rational egoism' and 'irrational selflessness'? I'm not sure I know a single person who adheres tightly to either of those extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:37 PM
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Just out of curiosity, what are these differing definitions of 'respect' and how do they apply here? Do you think women don't want to be valued for their contributions? (again, genuine question, not snark)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:41 PM
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I guess I just don't think that anyone subscribes to the moral system in the OP. It's extreme. I see no evidence or argument that this is actually true What would that evidence look like? If you asked individuals who had been dumped (and harmed) by people they loved, who no longer loved them back, if they would have preferred (i.e. if they would have been less hurt) by not being dumped, some of them would probably say yes, and some would say no. And even then, those people answering the question…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:34 PM
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If your overall point is something along the lines of "a lot of people seem to have a very convenient and badly thought out personal morality system whereby the iffy things they've done are magically super cool and the iffy things their ideological enemies have done are terribad" then I don't disagree with that. We may differ on what groups etc. we think are prone to it - I pretty much think 99.9% of humans are prone to it. Most of us are specifically capable of making excuses for ourselves and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:16 PM
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If it is immoral to "harm" people by hurting them emotionally This feels like a 'gotcha' question, Atlas. I doubt anybody here, even the bluest of blue-pillers (or the collectiviest of the collectivists) believes that any and all emotional harm caused to another person, regardless of circumstances or intent (and feel free to clarify if this isn't what you were saying), is 'immoral'. If a person did believe that, they wouldn't really be able to live, they would just constantly be doing things for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:09 PM
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OP, I think you make an excellent point. Certain factions of feminism take (in many cases legitimate) heat for looking down on the traditional female role of home-making and child-raising. But the same strain of 'women's work is low-value' is definitely present in RP. I think current society in general devalues it. Threads and comments re: society would continue to function fine if all women died tomorrow vs society would collapse immediately if all men died tomorrow used to be commonplace here …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 07:57 PM
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I can't assess that for accuracy. It's a statement of what he does. Why does he do it ? And what is the effect supposed to be? Above, you said this in regards to the excerpts posted: Making it, so far as I can see as a description of female sexual nature.... Quite possibly the most accurate summation I've ever seen. The context is the sidebar material. 'Woman: The Most Responsible Teenager In The House.' The context is "A man of sense...neither consults them (women) about, nor trusts them with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 09:07 PM
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I assume you're talking about TRP re: safe space for men to talk about how to protect themselves from manipulative bitches? TRP is allowed. It exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:55 PM
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I guess the most simplistic moral argument against TRP would be "it's wrong to hurt other people in order to get what you want." Note that this isn't necessarily my personal belief, it's just what i think the main moral issue is with RP. Perhaps BP will disagree. And then we will all disagree on what constitutes "hurt" and whether or not RP does it/advocates it. :) How can you prove that it would be wrong to use it? You can't. You can't 'prove' moral claims. Not unless both parties are already a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:53 PM
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Xemnas, were you really under the impression that anyone was under the impression that women can't be narcissistic fuckfaces? Because they totally can. And no serious person disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:42 PM
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Y u ask dis, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:40 PM
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They happen to be wrong about that... All those other wrong people. Why are they always so wrong? I share your frustration, Greasy. All right then. Let's try this one. but he neither consults them about, nor trusts them with serious matters How accurate is that? And no rewording to make the statement less bald than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:39 PM
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only children of a larger growth... a sprightly forward child... for they love mightily to be dabbling in business... look upon them in a trifling light... titters
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:32 PM
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Why bother doing what is right when you can do what works? Well, which one matters to you more? Doing the right thing or doing what works? I don't have any power over your life choices. Life has no value for men beyond sex. For you. For you, life has no value for men beyond sex. Don't do that thing where you feel something very strongly and then mistake it for some kind of overarching Truth of The World. Also, this flavour of OP is getting tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:29 PM
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Goddamnit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 06:49 PM
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We are talking here of women attractive enough to get "pumped and dumped" by more attractive men, hence the hurt at being used referenced in the OP. I'm not talking about those women. I'm talking about the women referenced in the video - the extremely ugly and awful personalit-ied ones. A LOT of these incel threads lately have had comments running something along the lines of "there are no female FAs because any female FA could get what she wants with a male FA." I'm not talking about average or…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 06:46 PM
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I've seen it happen to men. Either through puberty or just getting serious about fitness. From drab-n-pudgy to total manwhore with nothing on his mind except fucking the maximum number of women. Positive female attention is as intoxicating to (esp. young) men as male attention is to (esp. young) women, imo. Allowing for individual-level differences, of course. This chick from the OP is just currently drunk on her own hotness. She'll either settle down and begin to see the attention for what it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 06:39 PM
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I recently read about some old folks home (in the Netherlands?) that has recreated a whole town to look just like a real town but with all sorts of safety protocols in place so no one wanders away into the woods or ends up starving to death etc. Maybe something similiar for incels? People this town with very extroverted, friendly, hot people. Most of them women. These guys need to be forced to interact with the outside world and the people in it. Perhaps starting off with a faux 'outside' world …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 06:32 PM
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She's 20, right? And she just got super hot? I think that most people, regardless of sex, would probably go through something similiar given her age. Not being attractive to the opposite sex and then suddenly becoming VERY attractive to them is probably very intoxicating for her. As intoxicating as it would be for a dude who suddenly grew 4 extra inches in last highschool and got ripped. I'm not justifying anything here, btw, just describing what i think is probably going on. She's enjoying her …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 06:14 PM
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I'm pretty sure he littered, too. I made a disapproval face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:21 PM
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The guy who wants sex, but can't get it (without paying) would be happy to have a relationship with her. How do you know this? Because certain incels say so? Saying one would be happy to get into a relationship with a very unattractive woman isn't the same thing as being capable of it or doing it. Being in a relationship is more than spending a lot of time with someone. it involves very specific feelings for that person. Is it possible that all lonely/unattractive women are only held back by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:17 PM
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Gridrexx, ITA. There's a genuine cognitive fail going on when people say "only X group can experience Y emotion." I think most people understand that in order to feel 'lonely' (or 'angry' or 'elated' etc.) one can have experienced one of many practically infinite scenarios that led to the emotion itself. We can call it what we like when that understanding is absent - solipsism, self-involvement, narcissism, a developmental failure re: 'theory of mind' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_min…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:41 PM
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He very clearly states that women cannot be incel That doesn't mean it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:29 AM
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I made it twelve mins. I don't know, man. Morbidly obese shut-in women routinely being offered all-expenses paid vacations around the world? Men being all over hideous women because they think these women will be sweet and faithful? I don't really want to engage on the "women can't be lonely" front because I just think that's obviously bullshit and anyone who truly believes that is just kind of beyond the pale in terms of a useful debate. You believe that? Well, OK. I don't engage with 9/11 trut…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:20 AM
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pasta made from scratch That shit changed my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:02 AM
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Well, damn. The responses to this (here and in the comment section of the Vice article) are interesting as fuck. I don't self-ID as a feminist (which is a whole other topic so I'll leave it there for now) but you know what? I totally, totally think that 'emotional labour' is a thing and that is it chronically undervalued (even to the point that a lot of people, male and female, would argue it doesn't even exist). I've even thought about starting a topic about it here before, despite the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 06:29 AM
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Wrong, Xemnas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 11:38 PM
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Do women believe there are difficulties in being a man? Yes, some women believe there are difficulties in being a man. Some men believe there are difficulties in being a woman. Not all men or all women believe these things although i think most do. I don't really get why this is even a gendered question (actually, I do, but more on that later). SOME people are more capable of empathizing, of feeling the pain of another person, even if that pain is not one that they themselves are familiar with. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 11:03 PM
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Reasons To Like Men: They're encouraging. Not verbally, it's more fundamental than that. I feel braver with men around. Not necessarily a SO - could be a male friend or relative, too. I'm more willing to take risks, participate in some new activity etc. In my experience, men are way more accepting of banter than women. My male friends and I can tear each other to pieces and it's just a laugh. Female friends are more likely to suddenly take offense to something that was intended as a joke. Men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:19 AM
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Some women can talk about the ins and outs of the smallest social things for hours. Ha ha, this is so true. I can talk to a female friend for hours after she has a twenty minute convo with some dude she's into. We can go over every single word, every tone, every expression etc. until we've discussed all the possible meanings etc. Male friend after a twenty minute convo with a woman he's into? "It went OK, I think." Ahhhhhh!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:12 AM
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Then isnt that why its a good idea to get feedback from people who are different from people like you Yes, but with the caveat that this will only be useful if said person is willing, even in a tiny way, to take what those other people have to say on board. The one common characteristic with the people posting on this board/online seems to be a total inability to even consider that they might be wrong, that their perceptions might be fucked up. Look at that Carkudo character. He is so invested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:46 PM
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Most people I know who are unable to secure ANY mate (male or female) have horrible personalities. The more I learn about incels and very-low-SMV people (and the more I interact with those claiming to belong to this group online) the more I get the feeling that personality has much, much more to do with it than many of them seem willing to admit. Many of them seem to have the kind of personality that makes them an almost instant write-off as soon as conversation starts. I can only imagine how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:12 PM
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Thanks for the link/comment. I haven't read her Rehtaeh Parsons coverage (and am now slightly afraid to, that case was horrifying) but I actually really liked her coverage of the Colin Thatcher (that fucker) trial so we'll see...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:58 PM
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How is it avoidance? I think 99.9% of what you're doing on the internet is avoidance. And I don't need a psych degree to see it - it's right there, out in the open, obvious. You keep talking about the exact same things. Over and over. You keep getting useful advice that, even if it didn't work, wouldn't harm you (stop masturbating so much, go to the gym or otherwise engage in strenuous physical activity) and you keep utterly ignoring it. You don't really want advice, you want reasons to keep goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:39 PM
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National Post columnist Christie Blatchford is a RP women. This isn't me calling you out, it's me being genuinely interested. Do you have links to any Blatchford articles where she espouses RPW stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:07 PM
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I dunno, man. If I started talking to my shrink about Internet Philosophy X he'd call me on my avoidance crap (rightly so). You're like a bullshit sponge, just absorbing it and getting it all over everyone around you. It sounds like that's what you did with your ex, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:01 AM
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Maybe it scares you because you've worked it up in your head to be this big, huge, massive 'thing'. If you're a virgin, it's the idea of sex that scares you, not the sex itself (as far as you can know right now, anyway). I still think you should go nofap. This compulsively jerking off to porn thing is ruining some young men. Aren't you at least slightly interested in how you would be without it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:59 AM
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I think you may have run into a bit of a coincidence with your partners. I don't deny that there's a group of men out there who see anal as the end-all, be-all, but I don't think it's as common as you seem to think it is (although maybe it is, maybe I'm the one who has run into a coincidental few dudes who weren't obsessed with it). I've never been with a man who demanded it or seem obsessed with it. A couple were a little interested but when my reaction was along the lines of "well, I might be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:56 AM
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And you sound like a man who doesn't actually know what 'dominance' is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:46 AM
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Those two things seem to contradict. Not at all. If you think dominance is about the sex act itself, you're doing it wrong. It's psychological to a large extent. A truly dominant man can do more dominating in the missionary position than a fake dominant man can with anal (or, for that matter, whips and chains/BDSM).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:44 AM
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No. It's worth the occasional anguish and heartbreak. I wouldn't be myself without my sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:39 AM
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He's not wrong, though. You do talk too much. You vomit your incoherent emotional state onto this board repeatedly and frankly, I'm surprised at how patient we've (mostly) all been with you. You've received many long, well thought out responses from strangers who don't owe you anything. You invite mothering, not attraction. Is that what you want? You say you don't even want to have sex? So why the hell are you swallowing the red pill? Do what the other person in this thread recommended: stop fap…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:36 AM
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why can't I ask woman if she wants to have sex without playing any flirting games with her? No one's stopping you from doing this. I can't promise it's going to be super successful, but no is stopping you. Also I don't understand what 'rationality' has to do with this. Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 07:27 AM
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Yes, I think physical attraction can come to exist as people get to know each other even if it was low to begin with. I mean, certain people will never be attractive to a given person but I've seen men AND women grow feelings as they spent more time with someone they initially didn't want to bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 07:22 AM
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Generally attractive: Aw, shit, there's so much. Smart. But curious-smart, the kind where you can have long, interesting conversations and not the competitive 'iamverysmart' kind. Curious in a general sense. Dry/sarcastic sense of humour. I love (good) banter and pisstaking, that jokingly aggressive back and forth. Humourless men, or men who take themselves too seriously, are a huge turnoff. Attentiveness/genuine interest in me and what I think/feel about things. Kindness towards animals, childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 07:14 AM
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If you were in a new relationship with someone, found out they had slept with almost every other one of their partners with little delay, but wanted to make you wait much longer... knowing little to nothing else about their sexual past/reasoning... would you be ok with that? It's difficult to answer this because I've never come across a man who would want to wait six months before sex, especially with a high count. That said, I suppose it's possible he could be sincere and whether or not I waite…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 05:14 PM
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Also, you have to calibrate how much vulnerability to your level of rapport. 1000x this. I often see these "NEVER show vulnerability" comments and (quite possibly unfairly) assume the poster is one of those 'dump everything on her lap at the earliest possible opportunity' types. Some people just have no sense of when it's appropriate to show vulnerability or how to do it so you don't come off like a headcase. Emotional dump-taking is deeply unattractive - in women, too. I have a female friend wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:46 PM
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Testosterone is an Alpha characteristic, because it signifies a good immune system. Calm, even temper is a beta characteristic. I've always had 'ain't shook-ness' on my personal, subjective 'alpha male traits' list. But in a way it doesn't matter how it's categorized because I agree with you that it's attractive in a man. You want someone who could/would throw down if you were in real danger, you specifically don't want a man who hulks out and starts throwing punches if some random dude on the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:36 PM
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Personally? No. I feel like the ones that would be a personal threat probably won't be invented before I hit menopause/get old/no longer crave alpha dick like fat kids crave candy. Also, I feel like the men who would choose current/soon-to-be-released sex dolls aren't men I'd be trying to get with anyway. Societally? That depends almost entirely on how well these sexbots are able to mimic human female traits outside of having wet, cozy holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:46 PM
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From a response to you, OP: Yes. You are completely incapable of processing any information beyond "Does this benefit me. If yes, accept, if no discard" That's it. You are extremely primitive Welcome to PPD! Where 'all' means 'not all,' the women are retarded animals and the red pillers, all of them, are bias-free gentlemen. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:11 PM
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Man, really?? You've never met a hot girl who liked doing stupid, funny shit with her bf? Maybe you haven't, no one can prove that 'wrong,' but the kind of thing she described is just normal relationship stuff to me. There really wasn't any need to try and insult the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:41 AM
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Wait, what? I thought this was about what to do when your FWB catches feels. But you just don't want to be thought of as a booty call when all you want is a booty call? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 10:15 PM
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Examples of what? Men behaving irrationally in literature? Do you believe there are none, as the other poster has claimed? How many examples would it take for you to believe they exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 10:07 PM
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We only like Santa because he brings us Kitchenaid stand mixers. Not cuz we want to bang him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:14 PM
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Swifty is weird, I know a lot of dudes think she's a hottie but there's something about her face that puts me off. Something sort of pinched.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:10 PM
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That first guy is very young and he has one of those faces that he's going to 'grow into' - he'll look a lot more masculine in a couple of years and with some facial hair. The other two REALLY need to do something about their hair and the second one should get a chin implant if he cares about that sort of thing, cuz his weak chin is hurting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:03 PM
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ITA. The upper end of that female scale is very skewed, imo. Those girls just have a lot of makeup on, are very young, and have their hair done and/or are making 'sexy face'. Very few are naturally stunning beautiful 9+s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 07:55 PM
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I need to compensate for my either lacklustre social skills or poor mental health, don't I. YES. I mean, from everything you've said on here it sounds like you are in the process of dealing with your mental health, right? That is priority #1. Social skills, I dunno, I'd have to interact with you irl but you don't actually seem that bad when you're not in RP-Rant mode. You don't seem emotionally/socially retarded the way some RPers do. As for clothes, eh. You're skinny, right? How tall? I think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 06:40 AM
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Yes, but let us remember I am speaking from my own perspective only. I think that most women would rate this dude a 9. He is extremely good looking (it's mostly his eyes, btw, that are helping him kill it in the looks dept.). He is too metrosexual for me. I highly doubt most women would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 06:26 AM
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Xemnas, you goddamned idiot. You look like a model and you're on here with us dicks posting lengthy diatribes about bullshit? Get your ass to the gym, young man, before we hunt you down and drag you there. You've probably seen the threads here and my experience irl (i.e. with female friends) tells me LOTS of women dig the skinny dudes. I mean, not anorexic but that thin, fine-boned type of male body. Most of my friends think I have atrocious taste in men, looks-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 06:23 AM
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No, that wasn't me saying that. I don't think dreadgame as outline by theinsufferablepole in that post is 'abuse'. Doesn't mean I think it's a failsafe plan but I don't think it's abuse. Also, dude in OP is only beautiful. A male 10 has to be beautiful AND masculine. Charlie Hunnam is a male 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 06:20 AM
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I knew you were messing, I just genuinely didn't understand why you thought I was being non-purple. You think I'm being too harsh, right? Well, it's context, partly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 06:13 AM
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This dude has a gorgeous face. He's got that feminine-but-masculine thing going on that a lot of women go apeshit for. Big, expressive eyes and long lashes + masculine jaw and chin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 06:08 AM
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What do you mean? How is my opinion here non-purple?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:59 AM
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Dewd. You don't get firm tits from benching. You get them from genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:57 AM
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Ha ha, I actually forgot you were an extro. You're such an intro-seeming extro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:52 AM
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Do you want to be the one to tell Rooney bot that he's no longer human, that he has no more human rights, and that he's incapable of emotion just because more of his brain is inorganic than organic? Wayne Rooney-bot isn't going to give a shit if he's human, because he's going to have one goal and one goal only: banging fruitenvrac until she cries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:51 AM
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You just need a hug, fiat. A group hug, from some extroverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:47 AM
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He's an 8.25-ish. Face is a 9 (from the right angle, but he's a model and clearly knows how to take a good photo). Body is a 7.5 (sorry, not huge enough, natural testosterone-heavy build not in evidence, muscles clearly acquired in gym and covering up a small frame). Evidence for smallness: https://instagram.com/p/7cpR1Jsva3/?taken-by=philippe_leblond (that chest, it is pigeon-y) https://instagram.com/p/7iSVwmMvV7/?taken-by=philippe_leblond If we were being cruel, we'd also knock him down a coup…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:44 AM
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Omg, man. So. Many. Disagreements. with those ratings. The hottest women at the female link are not as hot as the hottest men on the male link, for one. And some of those dudes are rated too low, imo. Also, those 1-3s. I hope none of them ever see their photos being used there. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:42 AM
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If the sexbot is sentient then I suppose there would a lot of ethical concerns there relating to how we treated them etc. In terms of being able to replace sex with a human with sex with a bot, I think it would have to be indistinguishable from sex with a real human, for me anyway. I.e. it would have to be about much, much more than phallic object in vag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 09:23 PM
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if that can be socialized out of people This is doubt. That need to be with another human being is right down there at the very bottom of the pyramid of 'being human'. Now, if someone invents sex robots that are sentient or completely, flawlessly able to mimic sentience/emotion, then things might get scary (in the oh well, I guess we're going extinct way). Can't say I wouldn't be curious to try one if they existed, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 09:20 PM
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Male love, in it's tenacity, is the only form of irrationality noted in historical texts. No it isn't. Not even close. I suspect that you haven't read much classic literature or that if you have, your ideology prevents you from seeing anything that doesn't fit said ideology. Don't patronize me with amateur pseudo-intellectuals like those in the lit sub. Again, the ease with which you dismiss the responses to questions you haven't even asked it noteworthy. You're offended by this, I get it. I'm n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:36 PM
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There is no trope that men are irrationally crazy in any literature. You either haven't read much literature or you're being dishonest. There's a literature sub here at Reddit. You should post this there if you're really interested in literary portrayals of men doing irrational shit (due to love or other things). Men doing crazy shit because they're in love/they have feels is one of the MAIN tropes of literature ffs! Have you read any Shakespeare at all? I sometimes wonder why people like you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:19 PM
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When men talk to other men they regularly conclude that it's women who are irrationally crazy. And when women talk to other women they regularly conclude that it's men who are overly emotional and nutty. This is true. Women talk shit just like men do, most of them (just like the men) to blow off steam. You're hamstering. You're trying to justify your emotions and turn them into facts. The only difference between me and you is that I'm able to acknowledge that how I feel about men at a given time…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:19 PM
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women are blameless goddesses It's almost like you don't believe this is true, OP. I have to say, I'm offended. Also, this is what we call a 'non-problem'. This problem of women as blameless goddesses and men as supplicating slaves. No one actually thinks that's how it is or should be (except people in certain niche lifestyles whose choices I respect). So you don't have to worry! Yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:29 AM
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3 months isn't that long. I've known people who pined for fucking AGES over an ex, including a terrible ex. And hey, you're not married to him now, so it's all good/worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:23 AM
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Me too, and likewise. It's weird, I remember really dreading the breakup, anticipating months, maybe years of weeping and garment rending and what ifs. But when it was over I swear I was fine within about a month. It was like walking into the sunshine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:06 AM
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Well this is disappointing. I like to picture you Red Pillers storming into everyday places like the bank or the grocery store, roaring and ripping your shirts off whilst bellowing "FORM AN ORDERLY QUEUE, BITCHES!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:01 AM
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C'mon Protopill, tell us about the time you brought home the wrong kind of flowers and she came at you with a chainsaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:54 AM
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I dated a dude 20+ years older than me for almost 5 years. He was previously married, coming off the post-divorce rebound relationship when we met. Before we were together he told me during a convo that his wife had divorced him because she said he "didn't listen". Cue me all "omg wtf she said that? what does that even mean?" Oh dear, I learned the hard way. I actually think that relationship qualifies as my biggest mistake, too. We came very, very, terrifyingly close to getting married, though,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:53 AM
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That's the most terrible mistake you ever made in a relationship? Sounds rough, man. I hope you were both able to get through it with some therapy. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:45 AM
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My definition of romantic is providing surplus resources to a woman in order to prove to her that she is attractive enough for you to keep her around. Ha ha ha. Even for RP this is some depressing, cynical shit. Does "romance" involve a woman doing anything? OF COURSE it does. I dunno, interpreting the word 'romance' to explicitly mean 'men buying shit for women' is just not even close to my idea of romance. Nor is 'romance,' imo, specifically about getting a sexual response out of women. In fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:36 PM
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There have been a few threads recently on PPD where some male posters were very vocal/blatantly racist about their reasons for not liking black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:34 PM
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The next step is for your wife to realize that your SMV has improved and that there are a LOT of women out there who would LOVE to fuck someone as hot as you are. This is...this is just straight fucking retarded. Throwing away the birth control pills, man, I don't know these people but this dude's behaviour seems like a big ol "dont breed with me, I am not father material" red flag. How's he going to be with a screaming, inconsolable infant or a toddler intent on dancing on his last nerve?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 03:31 AM
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Well as a white woman, this is disappointing. Every day for, like, three weeks I've been waking up and looking outside for my gigantic black alpha male (the one I am entitled to according to RP) and he has yet to show up. Where are you, GBAM? I can't even.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:39 AM
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No shit. Human beings like looking at hotties. It's not news.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:34 AM
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Great post OP. Gonna add my thoughts. All of the hero professions are associated with status, confidence, and competence Competence. Yes. This strikes a personal chord for sure. Competence in a man, especially physical competence, is an extremely powerful attracting trait. A man being very, very good at something is fucking hot. Study after study has demonstrated the erotic appeal of male dominance. Women prefer the voices of dominant men, the scent of dominant men, the movement and gait of domi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:17 AM
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We merely point out that young women want the alpha and post wall women start looking for a beta provider. I'm sorry but I think this is completely wrong. I don't buy this "alpha from one man, beta from another as widespread female sexual strategy" at all. I also don't buy the age thing. 16 yr old girls are just as likely to pine for the strong, masculine man who has a soft spot and a protective streak for her as 45 yr old women (I may be more open to a difference between pre and post menopausal…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 12:44 AM
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The important question is what comes after entitlement. It may be your belief that this question is the most important but the OP isn't asking it. Female entitlement is something I see very frequent mention of from RP/RP types and whether or not female entitlement is more widespread/powerful than male entitlement is a legitimate question. The links in OP certainly don't support a 'women are generally more entitled than men' belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 12:36 AM
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I don't think that this gender difference is because we socialize men to be more entitled. Rather I think it is a biological result of men being more competitive in nature. Yeah, this is also what I think. FWIW (and I don't offer this as 'proof') my experience is that men are generally more entitled than women. I find that it's men who tend to get righteously angry when they don't get something (raise, girlfriend, grade etc.) they want and women who tend to blame themselves for not getting that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 12:30 AM
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Australia has Navy SEALs? Where? (asking for a friend)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:07 AM
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If you have an anxiety disorder, and I believe you when you say you do, surely you must realize that spending time here on PPD and RP is probably one of the very worst things you could be doing for yourself? What could they possibly say to me that I won't like or be prepared for? I think they're going to say that you need to be the one to fix yourself. No one can save you. Not a therapist, not red pill, not feminism, not any ism. No one has a magic wand. If you want a good life, you have to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:05 AM
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You're not going to get an apology from society, that isn't how it works. The sooner you accept that fact the better. Your posts remind me of a drowning person. I've replied to you before and you've been hostile, as I see you've been hostile to a few others in this thread. Nobody here wants to see you suffering or hurt, no one is enjoying your pain. You need to talk to someone. I don't say that to take the piss out of you and I don't necessarily believe that 'therapy' is the answer to every trou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:48 AM
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What do you want us to say, OP? What response to this would make you feel satisfied? Also, how do you think you come across to other people? Do you act like you act on PPD in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:30 AM
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Anyway just want to hear your stories about fucking with men's heads. I mean, women are supposed to be the ultimate Machiavellians! No, I'm not answering this. I refuse to be a party to your spiraling, Xemnas. Why don't you ask us about a time when we cared very much about our boyfriends/husbands, when we went out of our way to show our love to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 08:17 PM
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I would probably just label it cynical Yeah, me too. That's what I meant by "negative," really. And as for you getting something out of RP, hey, I believe you. I'm purple, I don't think Red Pill is 100% bullshit. In fact to a certain kind of young and incredibly naive/idealistic/passive man, I think some of it could be quite useful. The whole 'you have to make things happen yourself, no one is gonna do it for you' message is a good one. I just...I dunno, there's something about older people tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 08:15 PM
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But, I don't think TRP tries to construct a general image of the world as positive or negative, they just state observations OK, I accept this. Or, rather, I accept that this is what you believe. I believe RP is a pretty negative view of the world, and that belief is based on reading RP posts from RPers. The vast majority of people in this world think that what they believe is real, true, based on reality. Christians think this. Red Pillers think this. Feminists think this. My pacifist vegan fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:43 PM
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How many times do you need to be informed And how many times do YOU need to be informed that a lot of other posters disagree with RP's definition of 'reality'? No one forgot about RP saying "you have to accept reality as it is" - they just don't think RP is correct about said reality and its nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:16 PM
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Another display of "everyone is a special snowflake"-thinking, huh? I don't know, man. I feel like if you don't believe in Jesus or his teachings, you probably can't be called a 'Christian'. The person claiming to be no-longer-Christian didn't say anything about being free from all cultural influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:09 PM
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Posting this and failing to hand out lube to the red pillers is going to lead to all kinds of friction burns, OP. Bad form.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:37 PM
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It's fact. Fuck it, let's do this! Demonstrate that it is fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 10:18 PM
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Oh, god. OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 10:09 PM
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I suppose I could answer this with "how do you know it?" and start us down a long, lonely road of hostile back and forth. Instead I'll say, man, I don't know it. I think a lot of people don't know it. Not every woman wants to stab you in the heart and laugh as you die. In fact lots of us don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 09:59 PM
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Do you really believe this? Really? 100%? All women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 09:48 PM
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How important is sex for you to feel or express love? Very important. I sometimes feel like sex is important to me the way it's important to men. It makes me feel loved. It's how I express love (not the only way, but a huge way). In a relationship, I need it. Nurturing behaviours? Yes. Another big yes. When I love a man, I am naturally/effortlessly compelled to maximize his contentment at all times. I fuss over men I love. I want to cook him dinner and hear about his day and pick bits of lint of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 09:45 PM
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Yeah, I'm not a mental health expert so I can't really comment there but I do know there are healthier and less-healthy ways of dealing with it. Not saying you're doing either one. the truth often lies in the middle I'm genuinely happy (for you) to hear you say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:08 PM
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I think you should join the military, OP. Or go to some third world shit hole for six months. You're burrowing deeper and deeper into your own head and it's the exact opposite direction to the one you should be going in. You need to sort yourself out first, before you start worrying about anything else - relationships etc. Also consider that everything might not be shit. The things you're reading might not be a 100% true reflection of reality. A lot of women WANT to be good wives and girlfriends…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 08:55 PM
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To clarify, are you saying she could be a homemaker AND a prostitute? Both?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 06:04 PM
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Man, this convo is still going on, huh? He didn't give me any shit because I stated that I do like dominant men but I just read through your exchange here and...yeah. There is no covnersation to be had with this person/people like this. It will never not boil down to: Person A: "I like Celeb X because he's smart and funny and wears green sweaters." Person B: "No you don't like him for those reasons, you like him because he's a hypermasculine alpha male." Person A: "No, once again, it's the smart…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:49 PM
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Average sized dick. I'm not cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 11:13 PM
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The question here, Whoregan, is would you take it in the ass for $10 mil?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 10:30 PM
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I do think RP is inherently putting the pussy on a pedestal, no disagreement there, but this: pussy is not the pinnacle of human existence, nor is the companionship of women. I mean, on some (base, animal) level, it's just true that pussy is the pinnacle of straight male existence. Just like babies (or dick, but mostly the babies that come from the dick) are the pinnacle of straight female existence. I'm not saying this is right or wrong or that it's the only thing in life. We're humans, not ani…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:29 PM
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Red Pillers (NARPALT, tho, I'm specifically talking about the awful ones) crossed with niceguys sounds like a goddamned nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:22 PM
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That narrative is one of the reasons I'm not blue. But I don't disbelieve every woman who says she personally doesn't want to be ordered around and made to choke on a dick. I also feel like you and I might have some (minor?) disagreements on what constitutes a 'dominant' man but in general, yeah, I like 'em big and masculine af. If they can properly boss me around, fucking bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:20 PM
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in the Apple Pie every night You're filthy, Gridrexx. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:08 PM
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And you guys say you aren't attracted to overly dominant men. I don't say this. I'm pretty straight-up about admitting I love dominant men, actually. And CM is playing a character(s), which is something I feel like, despite my vagina, I am able to understand. ;) I'd just make him shout at me a little before we had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:01 PM
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You don't have to. If men are into you, other men will know it without you having to show/tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:37 PM
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In your list of attractive male attributes, alongside 'not fat' I would add 'muscular'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:25 PM
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Why the fuck are people on this site so dead set on thinking so few men like black women? It's wank fodder for racists. They get off on the idea of black women boo-hooing because White Boy Fuck Up from the Internet doesn't want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:18 PM
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My point is black women aren't crying at home And many scumbag boners went limp.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:15 PM
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I'll tell you, it's the promiscuity. You pulled it off, as have other women. I bet you could have this conversation without accusing your debate partner of being a slutty slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:58 PM
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Agreed. And it's that British super-dry/scary-smart kind of humour. He also has a very masculine manner/voice. He would get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:55 PM
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So men find you physically attractive but they seem to lose interest? You've got the first and most important step out of the way. After that, I would say sweetness and gregariousness. More specifically, flatter his ego but do it subtly (it has to be subtle). Be impressed with him, but not in an OTT or obvious way. Give him opportunities to play a protective/male role - again, in small ways. Be interested in the things he's talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:43 PM
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That is truly odd. I know. I mean, everyone says it's weird as hell so I have come to accept that most people feel that way. I just...I can't understand it. I really can't understand how people don't see how hot he is. And I would let him use ten nightlights. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:34 PM
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I love Doug Stanhope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:26 PM
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I wonder if the fact that I don't find Jack Black funny at all plays a part in my not fancying him, because in general 'funny' in a man is attractive. (not a criticism there, I know lots of people do find him hilarious and I don't quite understand why i don't)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:24 PM
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Yeah, Chris Morris. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:21 PM
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That's two mentions of Jack Black in this thread. What the hell?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:14 AM
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I think she's ugly/beautiful, too. And she looks awesome lately. I wonder if she ever apologized to her brother about that mean song she wrote about him, esp. after he got a proper job?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:10 AM
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Rooney would just make you bleed and ask for a sandwich after. Yeah, that's why I love him. I'd insert a photo of me with hearts spinning around my head here but I don't know how. And Marc Anthony looks like a skellington. Maggie Gyllenhal sort of has that same zombie-ish look about her, too. I can't believe I'm the one with weird taste here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:09 AM
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The shame might be more about her overt feminism than her looks. Although a friend of mine thinks she looks like she has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 03:55 AM
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The fuck, you've got Marc Anthony on your list, girl! U can't handle the testostero(o)ne(y).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 03:53 AM
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Wayne Rooney because he's built like a brick shithouse and I love how angry/fighty he gets Demarco Murray because brick shithouse Justin Bieber but only because of his jawline Andy Lau because I like Asian men with cruel faces 90s Bill Clinton because dat alpha male charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 02:21 AM
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Omg I LOVE Lily Allen. And I have to say, she's like the last person I would expect a RPer to crush on. She's def. my girlcrush.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:33 AM
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Whoregan, it's a shitty thing to do (I am aware this won't matter to you so feel free to disregard) and Purple Pill Debate can choose not to host this photo/content. We can have the convo without seeing any of their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 11:20 PM
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Yeah I know FB sux. But these images of this woman include conversations she isn't actually participating in - graphic, sexual conversations. I don't think it's right to link her image to those.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:56 PM
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Shouldn't the woman's face be blurred too? This is all a bit distasteful and OP is not someone I would trust to report results honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:50 PM
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Liv Tyler in Stealing Beauty was absolutely stunning. Out-of-this-world beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 06:11 PM
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I am a woman and I think Kristen Stewart is hot as hell. I cannot understand how anyone doesn't think this, but a LOT/most don't. And when I say "hot as hell" I specifically mean 'sexy' - like I know if I was a lesbian or a straight dude, I would fancy her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 06:06 PM
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You don't get a strong emotional bond with anyone. Ah, Ok, yeah, I did misunderstand that. So, no emotional bonds with anyone + hot sex. Even with that scenario I still think the vast majority of young men would choose B. As they get older, more will choose A although - the "no emotional bonds" thing would probably make more men go for A, actually (I am talking about older men). An as for myself, with everything flipped, I still might pick B. Might. Maybe you think you understand it but I haven'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:28 PM
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Man, it's like women don't even read what I write. What? How did I misunderstand your scenario? A is really awesome emotional bond + shitty sex/being cheated on and B is awesome sex with one person and a deep emotional bond with another. Is that wrong? I don't think they understand is how important sex is mentally for men, particularly that men want the woman desire a man on a visceral and purely sexual level. I understand this. I think a lot of women do. It's one of those things that, if you pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:15 PM
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Dude, isn't 'holding frame' an RP tenet? Do you really think women don't like men with backbones? We do. Having a backbone is attractive. Not having one isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:10 PM
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However, I don't think women will be able to understand why one scenario is seen as vastly superior to the other because of their solipsism. They have no interest in understanding sexuality (both the mental and physical) of the male. I'm curious to see what other women have to say to your post, because I don't think many are going to say 'A'. I'd be willing to bet that as men get older, more of them would choose A over B, but when they're young? 18 year old dudes? I would guess that 95+% of them…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 08:53 PM
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Hey OP, I've been sort of baffled by this "blonde American women (why only blondes???) hate Indian men" thing as well. I'm Canadian and I've never really seen this here, at all, to the point where the discussion of it occurring in the US is just bizarre. I mean, does it REALLY happen that way in the US? Hot blondes hate Indian men and would never date them? Really? I went to school with a very attractive Pakistani guy, he was one of the three most popular guys there, everyone loved him. Includin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 09:34 PM
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Either I have a different definition of 'Chad' (mine is: physically attractive, outgoing, funny, smart, one of those 'has everything going for them' types) but I think it's as much of a myth as the 'all blonde early 20s chicks are snotty bitches' that I see sometimes around here (esp. in those "all blonde women hate Indians" threads - what's up with that?). The Chads I've known have been those people that other people, male and female, just want to be around. One of those people who sort of eman…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 09:29 PM
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I take good care of my skin and will postpone the ass vs face choice as long as I can. When the time comes, howveer, I will choose my ass and some tasteful/subtle fillers for my face. And that said, I'm not a fan of the skellington look anyway - some of those rail-thin actresses in Hollywood just look terrible, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:00 AM
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I'm not making an argument here, I'm not trying to convince you to agree with my take on this - your take is clearly different from mine and that's perfectly fine. Should society be putting such women on a pedestal? I doubt most people in 'society' have any idea who this girl is or what her story is. I don't think she's being put on a pedestal. So what if some interest groups are cheering her on (and are they? I saw nothing about specific groups voicing support - Vice giving sympathetic coverage…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:56 AM
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I read all the links and watched the video and I: a) disagree with the Rebel Media take on it and b) still want to know what specifically you think this woman should be shamed for and why. This would be a different story if she willingly filmed this and put it online herself, but she didn't. She had to choose a way to respond and she chose not to crawl away and hide under a rock for the next few years. I actually think she's pretty brave - I certainly would have gone the hiding-under-a-rock rout…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:49 AM
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I've said this before on PPD but one group I feel real sympathy for is sexually submissive men and men with cuckold fetishes. There seem to be way more men with these tastes than there are women into men like them/women with domme fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:37 AM
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I assume you think she should be shamed? What do you think she should be shamed for, specifically, and why? Am I misunderstanding or did she initially try to get the video taken down and only own up to it/'embrace' it after she was doxxed? If that's the case, what choice did she have? Either way, once she was doxxed she knew a shitstorm was a'comin' - at that point, why not milk it? Why not try and take some control of the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:34 AM
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Women are much pickier about who they have casual sex with than men are. Everybody knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:19 AM
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Infinite Jest You're a very serious man, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:19 AM
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A male being into cuckoldry for sexual kicks is one thing. A male being semi-forced into letting his SO sleep with other men because he's her bitch and isn't getting off on it is quite another. There are all sorts of kinks out there and cuckoldry is one of them. Other people's kinks don't make me judge them as people - I may or may not be into the thing they're into, but I don't judge them for it. I couldn't be with a man who had a cuckold fetish, but that's about me and what I like, it's not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 09:37 PM
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Do YOU care about marrying an educated woman? Is it important for you that your wife have academic achievements? Then marry a woman with academic achievements. Do educated women bum you out? Then don't marry one. This sub has a number of men who say things along the lines of "educated women are high-standards-having, pain-in-the-ass, unfeminine bitches." The men I know in real life are fairly concerned with women's education levels in the opposite way - very few if any of them would consider mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:25 PM
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What's wrong with western men? I don't really have a broad answer or opinion on that. I don't think anything huge is 'wrong' with western men, really. Some of them are dicks. So are some women. But most people, men and women, are pretty much getting on with things as best they can. I will confess a slight preference for British men, based on my experience of them being less prone to gender-wars silliness and more prone to dealing with other humans as individuals rather than representatives of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:19 PM
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What's this OP? Women have a general preference for masculine men? And men have a general preference for feminine women? Are you surprised? I bet if you asked any of these researchers if they thought this data somehow meant that "love doesn't exist" they would laugh. Also, a general preference...man, that is NOT the same thing as "all women, down to the very last one, like brutal Hulk-looking men and all women who say they have differing tastes are flat out lying." Skinny dudes can have high T. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:46 PM
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I remember a thread a few weeks back (two threads actually, one for dudes, one of ladies) where PPDers were asked their physical preferences in the opposite sex. The RPers had quite a variety of preferences. Some liked Kim-K style bodies, others like more the Gwyneth Paltrow very thin/small boobs and ass body. And do you know what else? No one, AFAIK, flat out told any of them that they were mistaken about their own preferences. That dude you posted? Not attractive to me at all. Do I think you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:35 PM
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OP, I wish you had addressed this to all pills!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 05:13 PM
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This advice seems eminently practical for you OP. You have portrayed yourself as a completely hopeless case, physically hideous etc. If that's true and you want a relationship/family you are, like all hopeless/desperately and across-the-board-unattractive people who want a relationship/family - going to have to bring whatever it is you can to the table. That could be providing her with a roof over her head and bringing home the bacon, esp. if you both want children. No one is saying "yes, you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 05:09 PM
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There's absolutely no need to apologize - in fact I appreciate any attempt to inject nuance into PPD discussions (nor do I disagree with you in general), because it can be pretty lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:13 PM
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If you're RP and you wander into BP looking for a pleasant, reasonable discussion, or if you're BP wandering into RP looking for the same...you're going to have a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:35 AM
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I offered a personal opinion ("many of them seem to think..." - that is clearly not a statement in the formal-logic sense of the word). I did not offer a conclusion that anyone else was obliged to accept. Asking someone to defend a personal take on a subjective topic with formal logic is silly. As I said, it's cool if you disagree with my take on this, it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:32 AM
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I think maybe at different times they've worked for both but I don't think VS models (or, the core group of 'Angels') are allowed to model for anyone else...? Could be wrong? I just find the VS aesthetic to be slightly lower bf and they always look just slightly too thin to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 11:28 PM
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I think Hemsworth for 80% of women but it's Brin for me because Hemsworth's eyes are too close together and I've never fancied him and Brin would be more interesting to talk to. And could buy me more Ferraris and handbags, ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 10:18 PM
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expecting you to lead with evidence Alright, how would that play out? I could read through some PPD posts, find some quotes to support my claim. You could do the same (note: NEITHER of us have done this, including you). Probably wouldn't convince either one of us, because a few cherrypicked quotes from a sub this massive isn't enough to definitively prove anything. The only thing anyone could do to come up with convincing PROOF of correctness here would be to somehow find all PPD posts from RP o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 10:12 PM
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You and I disagree on whether or not RPers have a tendency to portray themselves as special victims of 'being lied to', that's all. You feel that they don't, I feel that they do. There's no failure to understand, there's disagreement and it's on a very simple point, too (do RPers in general portray themselves as victims in a way they don't believe women are). I responded to your post. I did it honestly and in good faith. Your condescension is unreasonable and not warranted, and it's one of the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:48 PM
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For me, this dude is a 4-5/10. I've just read through this thread, tho, and I think I just have different taste to the women who are rating him a 6-8. He's way too skinny and his face, while not ugly, has a sort of fine-boned thing going on that I find a little feminine. I like big, muscular, masculine men with wide faces and broad/straight jawlines. I also, unlike the other women in this thread, fucking love thick muscley necks on men. If I saw this dude on the street I wouldn't notice him as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:03 PM
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Yeah, that surprises me, too. She is the definition of 'neotenous' imo. Right down to the dimples.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:40 PM
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That Reddit chick has perfect breasts. Perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:26 PM
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You know who blows the VS models out of the water? The Sports Illustrated models. I strongly prefer the latter (straight woman here) - you rarely see a non-beautiful-in-every-way model in SI and I actually think a few of the VS models are too thin (Alessandra Ambrosio is a good example) - I've seen clips from the runway show and man, you can feel how hungry those chicks are. This IS definitely a matter of personal taste. That said, I've always found Miranda Kerr stunning (an airheaded dumbass, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:25 PM
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like proud dung beetles Ah ha ha ha that's excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:01 PM
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Yeah, I got you. I was sort of tailoring my response to the OP - I don't believe they're all 100% lies at all (although re: 'education' I was specifically talking about 'academic education'). You're right to say that you can't know the contents of a book by its cover, but the cover of the book still matters, a LOT. And sometimes people want to keep that knowledge from little kids - probably some kind of misguided innocence-preserving thing. I don't believe "be yourself" is a 100% 'lie' either. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:51 PM
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but I don't see the claims of victim status that you assert. That's cool, I'm sure we all have our own interpretations of what we read on PPD (as well as not always reading the same comments) but I definitely get a 'men are special victims of being lied to about the sexual marketplace vibe' in here - quite a strong one at times. And I just disagree with it, in that I think most of us were lied to about this stuff. And it sucks, especially for the people who took longer to realize it wasn't entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:49 PM
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Yes, there are quite a few donkey rescues in existence. I love donkeys, too - they have great personalities. Whenever I meet a horse they're all 'omg don't touch me, ahhh! nooo!! but I want those carrot sticks!! ahhh run away! ok i guess you can ride me! wait no, a strange sound, now I must throw you off!!" Donkeys are total bros and are happy to chill with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:44 PM
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OP, can I ask you what you expected asking this question here, of all places? Racists gonna racist. Trying to get them to admit they're the dregs of humanity and that the problem lies with them (both statements are true) is never, never going to work. Their whole worldview is entirely about group X being less-than. It's about them, it isn't about you. Even for PPD this thread has been ugly. You are NEVER going to get an explanation because there isn't one - not one that isn't bigotry, anyway. Ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:37 PM
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I wasn't talking about sexual dynamics only. Just 'lied to in general' which is what the OP was asking about. I highly doubt you'd meet many people who would say they were never lied to as children. As for successful people - do you really think they were never lied to as children by parents/teachers/society? And that that's why they're successful? That sounds iffy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:38 AM
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In no particular order: reading (am recently getting into American authors, particularly James Salter and Joseph Mitchell) studying history, especially English history. I have a BA in history (and one in English Lit) with a focus on Tudor England foodie (I know, I know) - I'm fascinated by how food is becoming/has become this 'thing' in modern life, how chefs are now rock stars etc. I love learning about and trying to find new foods to try. There's a type of watermelon (Bradford?) that I'm proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:35 AM
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Running, biking, hiking (especially while pretending I'm in a post apocalyptic environment) Ha, I love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:18 AM
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