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Honestly that’s not very hard to believe. It would basically mean that the men who are attractive enough to attract multiple women are actually doing that, and that some of those men are cheating on their romantic partner Have you seen dating app statistics? They’re very lopsided in the sense that it’s much easier for women to find matches than men, and the small number of men who are able to get matches are matching with a lot of women and the rest of the men are barely getting any matches at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:01 PM
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I did after the pandemic. Wasn’t very difficult. If all else fails, restaurants are always hiring. When I was 19 I was paying rent, food, gas, utilities etc by myself with a restaurant job. Never had any issue supporting myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:42 PM
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no, because there aren’t outside factors preventing a man from doing chores How about having to work enough to make alimony payments to a grown ass woman and ALSO having to worry about his own bills? Seems like it could be a factor. There are no outside factors preventing a woman from getting a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:42 PM
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Following this logic, should a woman have a certain chore amount that get decreases every year until the man slowly gets used to doing his own chores again?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:10 AM
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Lol imagine if the real world accepted “yeah this thing that i disagree with is autistic” as an explanation as well as reddit does. Red Pill isn’t touted as 100% absolute literal truth. In fact dudes within TRP disagree with each other all the time. Your whole perspective on this is invalid because you don’t even take the time to understand it, you just call it autistic and hop on your soap box
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:11 AM
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Are you saying women aren’t capable of rejecting a man themselves? Or maybe they just choose to avoid doing that, aka choose to avoid speaking their mind? I’m trying to think of a way to frame this that doesn’t make that sort of thing look infantile as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:36 PM
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all women are out to use you, so use them first The red pill doesn’t encourage men to use women ,nor does it tell them not to. It encourages men to decide what kind of relationship they want and outlines ways to achieve those.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:57 PM
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I’d probably change this to say “body composition”. You can have low bodyfat but if you’re built like Steve Urkel you’re not gonna have as much fun as you probably could
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:44 PM
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Probably better than if the force was 90% women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:31 PM
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The government is who really protects women. The governments pays women and men (police) to uphold the law Men make up 90% of the police force…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:40 PM
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Ironically, the other user who’s arguing with me is talking about how we shouldn’t judge with too little information. But then suddenly asking for information makes us insecure and weird lmfao And some of us dont care at all about your details. I’ve heard all the stories anyways, volunteered information that i never asked for; “Oh they were all abusive and i didn’t know until after we had sex” “Oh i was trying to explore my sexuality” “Oh i was in a bad place for relationships so instead i chose…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:53 PM
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Choices are derived from a person’s outlook on life. It’s not an unhealthy obsession, it’s just a character judgement. in fact i barely even think about
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:32 PM
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I never said anything about “disgust” it’s just not what i’m looking to settle down with. Trust me my n count is not high and i don’t really want it to be either, i think people with high n counts have an unhealthy perspective on human relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:03 PM
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Every single man who cares about your sexual history is insecure? That’s not true, some people just find certain things unattractive. I don’t ask either, but if i ever find out about it or if i ever see a woman acting promiscuously, or even think she MIGHT have been promiscuous at some point, i will be turned off. I might be willing to have fun with her but i wouldn’t be willing to commit to a long term relationship. Funny thing about that is most of those high n-count women don’t seem to want a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:36 PM
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can you link me their viewership stats and the date of their first show with female guests?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:10 PM
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They are not interesting enough on their own But didn’t they start off on their own and over time started bringing guests on once they had enough name recognition to attract guests?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:24 PM
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Literal fetuses who were given the title of king before they were even born laughing in their mausoleums rn
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:34 AM
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Men aren’t monopolizing the dating market on purpose, it’s a byproduct of women all chasing the same few guys while rejecting the majority of the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:03 PM
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That’s not what “submissive” means though. That’s called being soft spoken and introverted, like you already said. There are extraverted, loud women who are submissive and introverted, quiet dominatrix type women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:23 AM
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I don’t think relationships should be framed as “investments” anyways. It should be someone you love and respect. But that concept seems lost in the west and i wonder if it was ever a widely accepted concept in the first place. Certainly not in my lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:00 AM
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“Bold”? Lol she didn’t even say anything she just looked at me and gave up. I’ve had this happen to me several times. I used to work at a restaurant as a host so i basically had to stand at the front the whole time. One of the servers actually used to be pretty mean to me so i thought she didn’t like me but once she put in her two weeks notice she started acting differently (friendlier more talkative etc) and on her last shift before she left she walked up to the host stand and just stood there …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:04 AM
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A few months ago i was pumping gas and this chick next to me put the nozzle back into the machine, closed her gas cap, walked away from her car and stood there and stared at me for a solid 30 seconds while I was fueling up. She was also pretty attractive but that just wasn’t my vibe, i don’t appreciate being stared at while I’m pumping gas This is just one example. There’s a lot of shit like this that happens and it’s impossible to miss if it happens to you but it’s hard to wrap your head around…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:06 AM
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Imagine getting such a small amount of attention from women that you literally can’t believe when someone says they’ve had this happen to them If you know you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:03 AM
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I’d be willing to bet you’ve had gay friends without knowing they were gay. A lot of guys don’t come out publicly. I’m bi and almost none of my friends know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:57 PM
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Nobody goes around saying sperm banks reduce men to breeding stock so where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:50 PM
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You’re seriously calling him a cuck for… having friends? Lol wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:48 PM
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Because SHE inherited it. If the husband earns or inherits money then it’s HIS money, because HE earned it. See how this works? I’m saying they can choose as a couple whether or not to share their money. I never said it shouldn’t be shared, and i never said that it should. I explicitly said that they should have a mature conversation to decide how their money plays a role in their marriage. I also already said that they should decide what their common goals are and what they do to reach those go…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:48 AM
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If they choose for it to be then yes. That’s what i already said, they should have a conversation about their goals and what they do to achieve those. My parents for example chose to share their assets. Some people choose to sign prenups to keep their assets separate. There is no blanket yes or no answer to this question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:38 AM
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I never said it shouldn’t be joint marriage money, i said they should have a mature conversation to decide how the money plays it’s role in the marriage. Adults can choose whether or not to have it be “joint money” in their marriage. No two marriages are the same. but if they’re both spending it on food, mortgage, car, etc then it basically IS joint marriage money. That’s the whole point in my opinion, having common goals that you both agree on and both doing your best to reach the goals togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:36 AM
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Yes i do think it’s acceptable for her to pay for her own food and leave when everyone is expecting her to pay for their food. It’s disrespectful as fuck of them to expect her to pay for everything Tbh i don’t think the husband is mature enough to be in a marriage. So while i’m not saying she should divorce him, i wouldn’t blame her for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:12 AM
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I’m a redpilled male and i 100% agree with the way this woman handled it. They should have had a mature discussion about the inheritance with the husband understanding that it’s HER money and he can’t expect her to spend it any certain way just because he says so. But rather they should figure out what their goals are as a couple and create a plan for the future and determine how that inheritance should play a role. They should have common goals that would lead to common financial decisions anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:31 AM
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Bromo sapien
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:09 AM
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Your mom’s a homo sapien
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:17 PM
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A perfect example would be when someone personalizes everything that everyone else does and refuses to accept any explanation that doesn’t fit their narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:47 AM
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sol·ip·sism /ˈsäləpˌsiz(ə)m/ noun 1.the quality of being very self-centered or selfish. "she herself elicits scant sympathy, such is her solipsism and lack of self-awareness" PHILOSOPHY the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist. "solipsism is an idealist thesis because ‘Only my mind exists’ entails ‘Only minds exist’"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:23 AM
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Lol exactly what i’ve been thinking this whole time. The fact that you can forget about the whole third human in the equation is peak solipsism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:21 PM
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Wait. The fact that there’s a whole baby is irrelevant to an analogy about PATERNITY TESTING? LOLOLOL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:41 PM
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It’s not the same because a man can’t get a paternity test BEFORE the baby is born lol There’s also not a whole child involved with the STD teat example lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:13 PM
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Because you’re basically suggesting that a guy should just throw his hands in the air and abandon his family. What he could do instead is just get the test and go to court if he’s being wrongfully pinned to parental responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:12 PM
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False equivalency. She could get HERSELF std tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:23 PM
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Your solution is even more extreme though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:14 PM
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Because there have been plenty of guys who didn’t think their wives cheated who still wound up raising another man’s baby It’s like yesterday when i was at work closing up and i was scheduled to be the last one on. I’m going to check to make sure my co-workers did their closing duties as well before they left. I know them well and i trust that they did, because they’re reliable people and they’re not the type to screw me over by making me do everything. I’m still going to make sure they did thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:07 PM
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Your comment is proving my point about the solipsism. I’m explaining to you why you’re misinterpreting the motives behind some men’s desire to get a paternity test and you’re telling me i’m wrong and womansplaining why it’s an accusation when it actually isn’t. It’s like you believe your interpretation is the only possible logical explanation that exists and that is a perfect example of solipsism; ignoring all viewpoints other than your own
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:56 PM
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This is what i mean when i talk about solipsism. You interpret something a guy might do one way with absolutely zero regard for the guy explaining why you shouldn’t interpret it that way. You are only considering your point of view and not his despite the fact that HE is the one doing it Even if a guy doesn’t think she would cheat, she can still do it. So even if the guy genuinely doesn’t believe she would cheat, he still might want to take the test. But you have such little regard for his point…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:53 PM
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to be accused There it is. Taking it as an accusation. A man can fully trust a woman but still be cheated on. This the part that women usually gloss over. So just because he trusts you doesn’t mean he can’t want to know for sure that the baby is his with a paternity test. And just because he gets a paternity teat, doesn’t mean he doesn’t trust you or is accusing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:47 AM
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Most men can understand why someone would be offended. It’s because they take it as an accusation of cheating or an indication of mistrust. But the thing most women gloss over is that trusting someone doesn’t mean the baby is 100% yours. So i can trust a woman and still want to have a paternity test, but she’ll most likely still be offended even if i never thought she cheated anyways, all while accusing me of having trust issues and trying to gaslight be into believing i’m neurotic. Solipsism at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:29 AM
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The fact that women always take this as offensive demonstrates the solipsism that TRP claims women embody. It’s not an accusation and women shouldn’t take it personally but of course they usually do because they can’t empathize with what it’s like to not know for a fact that it’s your baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:54 AM
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I’m just trying to figure out how much they how much they actually profited though because all that is relevant for this discussion, especially when you’re claiming that it was a con job And just to clarify, i’m not actually disagreeing with you. I’m just trying to gather information
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 02:30 AM
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Because if they didn’t profit then how was it a con job?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:43 PM
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I literally asked you what you’re talking about. Weird how you interpret me asking a question as arguing. I’m actually open to gearing what you have to say and somehow that’s “naive”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:43 PM
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Interesting. So is the $54 bil in revenue actual PROFIT? What were the expenses incurred by Pfizer in producing and distributing these vaccines?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:34 AM
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What did they get conned out of? Weren’t the vaccines free lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 02:03 AM
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Dad bod doesn’t have to have steroids involved like Jason Momoa’s dad bod. It’s just a decent amount of muscle tone covered with a layer of fat. It’s a lot different than someone being fat with no muscle tone. A guy with dad bod is still clearly big and strong, which we all know most women are into. He’s also not fat or overweight. But he probably eats pizza and drinks beer more than once a week
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:00 PM
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When someone says “no good guys” you know they’re not just talking about a “good match”. And your weird little remark at the end “no need to be angry at someone for not picking you” leaves me wondering why you feel the need to go and dis OP, it’s almost like you took his post personally lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:29 AM
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What? That i looped back to the irrelevant point for no reason? Ok lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:08 AM
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Lol i asked you a question and you looped back around to that irrelevant point so idk what you’re arguing about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:39 AM
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That people don’t only approach for sex, i already said what my point is lol. Also that it’s redundant and irrelevant to say that people only approach for appearance. Like, yeah, obviously. I’m not sure why you felt the need to point that out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:19 AM
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When a person from your social circle approaches you, they probably already know you a bit to get interested in you for reasons besides your looks. Right but if you aren’t attractive to them they probably won’t approach you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:57 PM
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Of course, you’re not gonna try to get to know someone for the sake of dating if you aren’t attracted to them right? But what comes after that? You feel each other out for personality, compatibility, interests, life goals
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:08 PM
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Yeah they probably are but I think you’d be surprised how many guys actually just want to get to know a woman. I also didn’t realize OP only meant cold approaches, like if i approach a woman in my math class or in my friend group and shoot my shot is that a cold approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:59 PM
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Sounds like you’re perpetuating sexist stereotypes. Physical attraction is the first marker, mainly because most people don’t want to date someone who they aren’t attracted to. But for me, and i know i’m not the only guy because i’m not a unicorn, sex isn’t the priority. i haven’t decided if i want to have sex until i’ve gotten to know the woman, which takes several dates. Furthermore, i haven’t decided if i even want to take her out on a date until we’ve actually talked to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:31 PM
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Have you ever once thought “maybe he’s trying to get to know me as a person”? Or do you always immediately assume he’s only thinking about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:19 PM
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Damn you’re hell bent on proving my point aren’t you lol.. over and over. Why are you still here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:31 AM
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why do you need to provide me with a list if i don’t need shelter anymore…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:12 AM
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This doesn’t make logical sense. If men have a harder time finding a partner period, then they also have a harder time finding the right partner. Blows my mind how many people don’t understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:11 AM
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Point proven. Your failure to see the truth doesn’t change the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:13 PM
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I don’t need it anymore but thanks for finally quitting with your whole “lmfao” over the thought of 18 year old me not being able to find shelter. All you managed to do was prove my point smh In fact i literally dealt with that exact attitude from social workers and mental health workers while i was 18 with nowhere to go. Such a lack of empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:59 AM
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It literally happened, and the fact that you’re even arguing with me about this proves the point i was making that y’all don’t give a fuck about what men go through. Sitting here all “lmfao” about the fact that i couldn’t find shelter when i was 18. Fucking disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:06 PM
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Do you only date men who are taller than you? Or are you willing to date men who are a couple inches shorter as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:00 AM
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Nah i remember specifically asking these shelters and hotlines if they knew any that took men and they said “we’re not aware of any in the area, most homeless shelters don’t take men because they can’t house men with women and children”. So then I went onto google and did some searching only to find that this is common throughout most of the US. That’s not just anecdotal, that’s systemic. This was less than 10 years ago but i’m glad if things are changing in that regard. I remember how furious a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:26 PM
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I know they exist but from what i’ve seen it’s much more difficult for men to get shelter than women. Like I said when i was 18 i got turned away from several and they specifically said they don’t take men. I eventually just stopped trying and dealt with my situation myself. You can’t deny me my life experience. So how often was the shelter you worked for at full capacity? How many men did y’all turn away?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:13 AM
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Well unless something changed in the past few years. When i was 18 i tried to find a homeless shelter but they all kept telling me they didn’t take men. I did a google search and i’ve found that homeless shelters generally don’t take men because they don’t keep men housed with women and children, which is fair. I was able to find a small handful men’s shelters but they have a limited number of space. It is what it is. Seems clear to me that in general men have a much harder time finding shelter …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:24 PM
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I’m trying to explain the difference between words and real life experience. Ok, so a woman who chooses to be with an abusive partner who pays her bills might get called a gold digger. But she’s still choosing to be with the guy who supports her financially. A man in her position would be homeless on the streets. And for every guy who calls her a gold digger, she has even more people sympathizing with her and defending her. why men won’t do this for themselves? Because women don’t support men fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:58 PM
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Nobody forces vulnerable women to be brave, some people will suggest that they leave abusive partners and judge them if they don’t sure. But then you have EVEN MORE people who sympathize with them and call you a “victim blamer” if you say that she’s making poor decisions. Most people actually DO respect, sympathize and even support vulnerable women, but the same can’t be said for men There’s a difference between saying a vulnerable women is making bad choices vs actually forcing them to do certa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:33 PM
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This is a perfect example of the differences in expectations placed on the genders. Vulnerable man are demanded, forced to be brave by default. The US has no homeless shelters, in some places sleeping in the streets is illegal, vulnerable men can’t even GET financial support from a sociopathic woman the same way these vulnerable women are accepting financial support from sociopathic men. Sure some men are able to but by and large if he’s not bringing something to the table then he’s going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:47 PM
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1.Men don’t inherently hate women. Men dislike certain types of women, but some men are so desperate (mainly the bluepill men) that they’ll blindly look past all the red flags anyways 2.In order to know whether or not a woman is the type of woman you dislike, you have to get to know her. In order to get to know her, you’re going to have to date her. In order to date her, you’re going to have to put in effort to pursue. Red Pill men know there are still good women out there, it’s just a matter of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:32 PM
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Giving good advice IS nurturing and supporting though. Telling women that they’re queens when they aren’t is fake supportive. It appears supportive on the surface but deep down it isn’t. If you never hold people accountable they won’t fully grow; how is that being nurturing? When a woman has an irrational/narcissistic perspective and everyone just gathers around saying “yas queen” they’re not helping her grow at all. It’s not truly supportive or nurturing, it just makes her feel good in the mome…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:37 PM
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You say that, but what if you pick the ice cream thats poison flavored without realizing it? Men can inadvertently do that too! That’s what we’re trying to explain to you lol. Difference is he has to do so much more to impress her than she has to do to impress him. Just because women get to sit back and do the selecting while men work to pursue doesn’t mean that she can’t be secretly toxic! All that pursuing and dancing to be considered “wheat among chaff” could end up getting him cheated on or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:03 AM
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Yeah he can bail after putting in all the effort to pursue just for the chance to be considered and to even get an opportunity to feel her out, all while the woman just got to sit back. The majority of time there’s a whole set of hoops that the woman never has to deal with that the man does. There’s more that goes into vetting someone than physical attraction. You need to get a feel for their personality but you don’t even get a chance to do that unless you do the dance And no, doing the dance i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:40 AM
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Lol you just gave shitty examples and i “cherry picked” the FIRST TWO. Call it “throwing a tantrum” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:30 AM
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You usually sound pretty logical but this is the part where you sort of start contradicting yourself. Men have to pursue because they want it more and women get to sit back and sift through their options, yet it’s “just as hard for women, but in different ways”? Men have to separate the wheat from the chaff too, but that’s AFTER they put in all the effort on the front end to even get the wheat and chaff to give them a chance lol. So you can sit back and separate the wheat from the chaff after th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:27 AM
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Yeah so Reese Witherspoon is married to a man who is the “head of motion picture talent”? Not exactly the same as Matt Damon marrying a bartender or a doctor marrying a woman who doesn’t even work now is it? And Adele divorced the guy you mentioned? Nice try but anyways i’m not gonna google search all of them i don’t have time. I tried to give your argument a chance but it just fell short and after your petty personal attacks i’m done talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:37 AM
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I googled a handful of the chicks you mentioned and they’re either divorced or married to guys who are highly successful in their field lol Maybe i just didn’t happen to google the ones you would have liked me to that would fit your narrative but i honestly don’t have time to google all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:32 AM
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it’s more like 5% Haha well at least some of you admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:28 AM
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but all the ones that are star athletes marrying their high school sweethearts, those don't count. There were A LOT of those on that list and that simply means the men stayed with the women they were with before they got rich, which means they paired up with someone in their same socio-economic class before they got rich. A lot of these men stay with these women because the women were with them before the money and fame, so they know the women want to be with them for them, not for the money/lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:01 PM
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Correction, a rockstar marrying an UNKOWN model, or an actor marrying a FAILED actress. You also seem to be ignoring the countless examples of successful men marrying women who couldn’t even make it to the point of being “unknown models” or “failed actresses” lol. Your turn now, flip the genders and find me some examples. You won’t. Funny how when i point out data you ignore it but then you wanna talk about your data lololol. And you’re still going with the ad hominem attacks “your argument is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:22 PM
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Lol i could find even more examples but i’m not gonna waste my time on people who ignore evidence You don’t see highly successful, superstar-tier women marrying their high school sweetheart boyfriends who don’t have much going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:21 PM
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the “earning gap” has been debunked lol. Guess you didn’t hear about that. I’ll give you a perfect example; Matt Damon married a a bartender. Boom. My next door neighbor is a doctor and his wife doesn’t even work. Rockstar Deryck Whibley married an unknown model. Will Smith married failed actress Jada Pickett. in fact here’s a list to make it easier for you “Just go outside and you’ll see plenty of ugly and average men in relationships” yeah and i wonder how long those relationships actually las…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:05 PM
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She’s not saying approaching a lot of women makes you undateable. I know she wasn’t saying that. Even if she is only attracting genuinely hideous guys who are a complete mess, this mentality perpetuates on a larger scale as well so everything i said is still valid. The 80/20 rule literally comes from dating app data lol. It’s not as exact as 80/20 in real life but the general trend is obviously there, that’s why you see average women who work as waitresses getting with men who are professional a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:29 PM
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the vast majority of men who spray their attention everywhere are undateable This comment is probably just a verbal manifestation of the 80/20 rule. I bet a lot of those guys were perfectly decent guys, they just weren’t top tier guys so you felt disgusted by them and now you feel the need to talk shit about them on reddit. There are a couple things I wanna point out that you probably won’t ever be able to understand as a woman but maybe you’ll be willing to consider a perspective other than you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:04 PM
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Lol you might be taking it a bit too seriously. Pretty sure he means the abstract concept of experiencing life as a person who was born with the opposing gender chromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:51 PM
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Nah i use the scientific studies to determine my notions not the other way around. Yeah some people do it that way but like i said we call them idiots. I’m not gonna go find the quotes of things you yourself said lol. If you wanna play the quoting game then you can be the one to find the quote where i said i use studies to support my “preconceived notions” I actually used to think TRP was bullshit and that body count didn’t matter so if anything i accepted my preconceived notion as false 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:18 PM
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Lol true i almost feel goofy wearing timbs and they’re not even that crazy on heel height for boots. Tbh i wish they had a line of timbs that didn’t add the extra height, elevated heel is not really my style but i like the overall aesthetic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:31 PM
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You just said it was disingenuous to look at studies lmao 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:17 PM
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You’re ignoring science yourself, just pointing it out. Don’t be a hypocrite and talk about how people only celebrate science that backs up their point of view but reject science that doesn’t and then turn around and reject the science yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:27 AM
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Because whenever there's a study that gets posted here which goes against someone's bias they just ignore it, yet when there's one that supports it they parade it Those are what we call idiots I've also noticed that people who have little real life dating experience rely on ObJeCtIVe sCiEnCe to make their position feel superior People who have real life dating experience literally make up the statistics so i’m not sure what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:51 AM
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Not always but lying to manipulate people into falling in love with you is immoral. Even sociopaths and psychopaths understand that, they just don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:38 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:37 PM
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You literally just promoted lying to your partner though so at that point it’s not even a personal attack it’s just pointing out what you did
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:13 PM
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It’s literally science. You’re saying you’d never talk to any man, even if he were statistically more likely to have a successful relationship? Yeah there are exceptions but the correlations exist for a reason. Past relationship behavior can 100% predict future relationship behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:11 PM
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Because we know they won’t get offended. The way we joke with each other would have women heated as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:46 PM
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which is likely not very respectful This might be a regional thing but most men i know treat me and each other with a certain level of respect. It’s not like a kiss-ass level but at the same time there’s a degree of human decency and politeness. At least where i live (Central Texas) most men are respectful enough by default
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:49 AM
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Casual sex doesn’t have to mean someone who doesn’t give a fuck about you. It could be someone who you’re close with but you know a relationship wouldn’t work. Aka FRIEND with BENEFITS. But then again i’m willing to bet you probably friendzone all those guys if you’re equating casual sex to sex with “randoms”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:37 PM
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They’re also very real when you think about it. They’re chasing their dreams and not trading years/hours of their lives away for dollar signs. There’s something very respectable and admirable about that. This guy i’m talking about, one of his catchphrases when he does something that other people don’t understand is “life is too short”. Seems like he lives his life around the notion of understanding that he only has so long to experience everything that wants to experience in life. Also you’d be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:50 PM
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Their competition could also be a bottom 40% dude who happens to excel in one or two areas for example fitness and music. Tech bro’s wife might not want to BE with a broke mid twenties musician but if he has six pack abs and a nice ass she might be tempted to GET with him after his gig while her husband is out of town for a business trip. I know a guy like what I’m describing, idk if you would consider him to be “bottom 40%” if he’s in amazing shape and really good at live music but ultimately h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:16 PM
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Lol there are plenty of guys who have plenty of dating experience who are more socially stunted than the average dude. Likewise there are plenty of guys who have CHOSEN to wait who are more charismatic than you and me combined There’s more to socialization than dating women. Blows my mind that i’m having to explain this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:12 AM
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You just told me to learn to respect people’s desires and now suddenly you “don’t care about my respect”. (People meaning you lol) You don’t have to get all triggered when i point out that you’re judgement about his social development is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:40 PM
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You’re calling him “socially stunted” and telling him he should only date “socially stunted” people and gloating about how you wouldn’t fuck him and you’re trying to tell me about respect? Nobody asked you what you desire or whether or not you’d fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:36 PM
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Nobody asked you whether or not you’d date or fuck him. The world doesn’t revolve around you. That’s what’s wrong with women like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:33 PM
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I can think of plenty of people who have plenty of dating experience who are more socially stunted than the average dude. In fact trying to judge this dude based off of his dating experience makes YOU come across as socially stunted. I’m half expecting this comment to be reported for “personal attacks” but i mean really think about what you’re saying right now. that’s not me I mean what makes you so special anyways lol? Are you more socially adept just because you’ve been on dates? Honestly does…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:28 PM
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This is a perfect example of how society judges men by the amount of women they’ve been with. Not having been on a date by the mid-20’s doesn’t mean you’re socially stunted lol. I mean OP very well might be socially stunted but you can’t judge that by the amount of dates he’s been on alone… Ever heard of focussing on yourself? Some people CHOOSE to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:27 PM
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I’d like to point out how you’re a breathing example of what TRP means when they say society judges men’s value based on their experience with women. “Dregs”? You serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:25 PM
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This is a perfect example of how society judges men by the amount of women they’ve been with. Not having been on a date by the mid-20’s doesn’t mean you’re socially stunted lol. I mean OP very well might be socially stunted but you can’t judge that by the amount of dates he’s been on alone… Ever heard of focussing on yourself? Some people CHOOSE to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:24 PM
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imagine and average dude who, for whatever rea Quit being average
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:21 PM
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Men do support their friends but society as a whole, aka people who you don’t know personally, will shame men way more than they will women. It’s just a fact Another issue is that women will lie to each other to make each other feel better. Men don’t do that as often but it still happens. This shouldn’t be a gendered thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:51 AM
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The burden of performance is real 😔😔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:50 AM
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Sure not all women have them but way more have this support than man. Simple fact
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:22 AM
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Nah, women can be bitter and complain all the time and their friends will gather around and say shit like “you right queen! Men ain’t shit!” And blow sunshine up each other’s bootyholes. Women get so much sympathy and support when they complain about men or dating, it’s night and day. Men get laughed at and called incels if they complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:47 PM
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Dude i never said anything about requiring a virgin. Just no sluts. If she’s had sex before that’s fine, in fact even if she’s had more sex than me it’s probably still fine. If you look at my post history you’ll see that i’m an advocate of refraining from casual sex, both for men and women. I’m not a hypocrite, i’ve turned down plenty of sex specifically for that reason. That’s why i say it would probably still be fine if she’s had more sex than me. I also don’t necessarily need her to be super …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:09 PM
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The whole concept of TRP is to work on yourself to the point where the real you IS desirable for women This is a perfect example of the misguidance i was talking about in my other comments. “Just be yourself” is not good enough for most guys. Most guys have to actually GROW AS PEOPLE. Men have a burden of PERFORMANCE that most women will never be able to empathize with because men and women are simply not held to the same standards TRP is not only about muscles and money and sex. It’s n fact i’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:54 PM
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Well I certainly understand them better than i did when i thought TRP was bullshit. Sounds like you’re trying to gaslight me tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:23 PM
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It’s not revenge lmao. Why does my standards changing have to be revenge? Such a strange takeaway from my comment. Not wanting to date someone is not revenge, it’s simply not wanting to date them I hope to have kids someday so you completely missed the mark. It’s just that now I understand the idea that women who failed to cultivate a healthy family unit or who had a bunch of previous partners where the relationship went nowhere might not be what i’m looking for. Partially because now i have exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:20 PM
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What did i blame women for? You know nothing about me. How can you confidently claim that i blamed women for anything without knowing me lol. Typical shaming and gaslighting tactics that TRP already tells men to be prepared for. The problem was the lies that i was fed about how i should be or what women wanted. And yeah, by extension, the problem WAS me, but that’s not the full story. i was misled and misguided. Obviously i had wound up in that position, how could you expect a kid to be anywhere…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:28 AM
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i wonder if you felt this way before redpill told you to feel this way Funny thing is, i didn’t. But those women didn’t want me back then anyways 😂 Now i DO have options and i DO feel this way about single mothers and promiscuous women. Funny how that works right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:59 AM
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Why not? Same reason why most women won’t drop the “no guys shorter than me” or “no guys younger than me” or “no guys who make less money than me” or “no guys who are physically weaker than me” rules
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:58 AM
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If they remain single then they either didn’t do it right or they got fucked over with shit genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:56 AM
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Worked out pretty well for me. I couldn’t even get a date before TRP and i had zero clue about what women actually respond to. In fact i actually used to think that TRP was bullshit, that was back when i couldn’t get laid or get a date, funny how that works right? A lot has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:55 AM
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True it’s still kinda weird how often that happens tho how do you manage to confuse yourself about whether or not you like someone like that lol Flakiness is still immature regardless of whether or not you’re using your words. My point stands. Don’t schedule it if you’re not into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:17 PM
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The difference is in uni, the women who are working hard are still having casual sex with whoever they want and most guys who are working hard are holding out hope for the potential chance of being able to maybe get a woman to like them once they’ve gone through school and landed a decent job so they can BrInG sOmEtHinG tO tHe tAbLe At the same time, the women who AREN’T working hard ALSO have that opportunity to get with who they want meanwhile the men who aren’t working hard are seen as losers…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:54 AM
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Flakiness is immature. If you’re not into it then don’t schedule it, use your words lol. Edit- I don’t care whether or not you’re using your words, flakiness is still immature. Don’t schedule it if you’re not into it. It’s not difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:31 AM
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You type all that nonsense out without actually explaining your point I’m guessing it was something along the lines of “if you contribute to society then you will be valued” but again that’s proving the posts point because that’s far more true for men than it is for women. Maybe if you’d quit trolling with halfasser hyperbole people would actually get what you’re trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:16 AM
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Copy and pasting my edit since you probably didn’t see it; Beaides, if you actually knew anything about history you’d know Isaac Newton was actually ridiculed and ostracized while he was actually still alive This dude is really trying to say the best way to avoid being judged by your n count is to have a scientific breakthrough that changes mankind’s understanding of the universe 😂😂 I guess you’re completely glossing over the fact that you’re proving OP’s point because obviously women don’t have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:52 PM
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Lmao using Isaac Newton as an example of someone to argue with OP’s point is extremely intellectually disingenuous 😂😂😂 Why are you even here if you’re gonna be trolling like that? Beaides, if you actually knew anything about history you’d know Isaac Newton was actually ridiculed and ostracized while he was actually still alive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:37 PM
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Maybe i’m amazed by the way you pull me out of time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:14 PM
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Then you clearly didn’t read the post because OP was talking about actual nice guys he specifically stated that..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:24 PM
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This is where it starts to become pedantic. People start bending the definitions of nice and kind to what THEY think it means to the point where suddenly being “nice” is a bad thing lol Despite the fact that several dictionaries literally list “nice” and “kind” as synonyms. But yeah sure let’s just gloss over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:26 AM
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Lol at the amount of women in here who are pretending that they don’t know what “status” or “nice” means
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:22 AM
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Men do compliment each other lol idk where this idea that they don’t comes from Lol at the downvotes. I’m a guy and i get compliments from other dudes all the time and i give compliments to other dudes too. Your downvotes won’t change reality. Use your brains for something that actually makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:29 AM
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I’m a believer in hypergamy as well but it would be nice to see an actual study that shows that women are literally more likely to orgasm from sex with rich guys, especially if he’s gonna be linking stuff When you start linking stuff it makes it seem like there was a study or something that’s why i’m asking. He could have just not linked anything in the first place. It would have been better than using a jezebel article to back up his assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:49 AM
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Well judging by the way she talks about her “boyfriendish person” and how he could “rent an apartment from her lmao” it’s really not a surprise that her relationship with the father of her child failed People are free to do as they please but this sort of living arrangement seems best for people who want to keep a certain amount of distance from each other (not only physically but also emotionally) and don’t plan on committing to a serious future together
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:00 AM
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Where’s the actual study though? You linked Jezebel. Jezebl cited The Times of London, Telegraph, and Daily mail. Daily mail doesn’t cite a study Telegraph is 404 Not Found The Times of London is locked behind a subscription wall or something None of these are scientifically reputable So where’s the actual study? I’m not even saying i don’t believe you I just want to see the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:54 AM
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I never said anything about wanting to be with someone who doesn’t like you. I’m talking about the arbitrary xyz being a factor in the first place. Women have way more xyz dealbreakers than men, that’s my point
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:01 PM
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Well first of all it’s definitely relevant for autistic people in this subreddit. They exist too and their experience is valid Also, when you analyze it on an abstract level, it’s interesting to think about what the discrepancy between the experience of autistic men vs autistic women means for the rest of us. at face value it might seem irrelevant for neurotypicals but it could also be seen as yet another difference in what’s expected of men vs women. It seems like women simply always have fewer…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:16 PM
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Lol maybe if you met one woman who had no standards that would be a one off thing but if the entire dating scene flipped around in men’s favor and suddenly women were the ones who had to work harder then yeah we’d be more privileged. Also, a woman with NO standards would be a walking red flag anyways. You’re confusing “fewer standards” with “no standards” and it’s not the same thing Being privileged is not a bad thing by the way, men are more privileged in a lot of ways. We don’t have to worry a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:14 PM
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It’s a privilege because they don’t have to do as much to gain access to the same amount of love, affection and sex. How is that NOT a privilege? privelege implies men are somehow being pressured into having low standards I don’t see how it implies that. I never said anyone is pressuring me to have low standards and i don’t believe that’s what’s happening. the privilege comes AFTER the fewer standards. Also, i think you’re confusing “fewer” standards with “low” standards. I still expect anyone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:03 PM
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I never “chose” to forego an income requirement or a height requirement etc, i simply never had them. It’s not like i wake up in the morning and think “hm do i want to expect this chick i’m dating to make x amount of money”. Probably the same for most men Again i don’t think this is a “fault”. If i like a woman who happens to make 20k a year and tells bad jokes there’s nothing wrong with that. If anything i think having all these requirements if more of a fault than not having them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:01 PM
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Even guys who aren’t desperate expect less of women In general; No height expectations No income expectation other than being a functional human being who can support herself No social fluency expectations other than simply not being unpleasant or doing things to make people uncomfortable No dominance expectations Just a few examples. Of course there are exceptions but in general guys want someone they vibe with personality wise and who they’re physically attracted to I actually disagree that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:50 AM
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There are different pressures involved, different social expectations of each gender. There are simply fewer pressures and expectations for women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:50 AM
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Pretty sure the point if his post is to say that it’s specifically harder for autistic men, not just autistic people in general. And that people don’t mention that much. Of course picking up on social cues is important for everyone who wants to be in a relationship but men specifically need to be able to pick up on social cues, more so than women. Women can get away with being awkward and still get dates way more than men can. That part isn’t as obvious to most people and apparently not to you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:03 AM
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Based on the current state of things it really isn’t that hard to be top 20%. I think more men would have a chance if at the very least they’d exercise regularly and and develop strong social skills. I’d be curious to see what would happen if all men would step up their game though. If all men got into good shape, dressed well, became socially fluent, etc, would women’s standards shift even more? Or would we start to see women accepting 30, 40, 50% of guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:41 PM
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I’m challenging the idea that it’s only from men. In my opinion OP should change their view to include both men and women’s cognitive dissonance being a factor, not just men’s cognitive dissonance toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:13 AM
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Please elaborate on this “centrist side” and what makes them so cognitively dissonant. i’m unfamiliar with the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:44 PM
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Cognitive dissonance from BOTH sides has completely taken over this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:23 PM
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Figured you wouldn’t link anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:51 PM
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You should go sleep with 50 or 60 women Sounds like a great way to catch HSV-2
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:15 AM
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Can’t find any article about that. Source please? I tried google.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:00 AM
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Romantic movies are one of the reasons why so many young men struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:59 AM
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I thought you were gonna say something like “we need to take care of our physical health, we need to constantly learn and grow, form meaningful connections” But you instead decided to go the route of “be a good backup plan” Dude honestly fuck that, you can have fun with it. I’m trying to be my future wife’s passionate choice and if i never get to that point then fuck it i’ll die alone and settle for casual sex with bimbos and let them run to you afterwards. It’s disrespectful to yourself to want…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:38 PM
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Nah i’ve had women get peeved at me for nor noticing them in that way. It happens to guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:16 PM
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The problem with this answer is that some people will think just because they managed to have sex with someone who meets their standards, that their standards must not be too high. They equate sex to being truly accepted, which is erroneous for obvious reasons. The better, more simple way would be to determine if you meet your own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:13 AM
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No one here is talking about making women date anybody. I wish the mods would make a Cathy Newman “So YoUrE sAyInG” rule where all comments who put words into other peoples’ mouths get removed. Shit is obnoxious, low iq and keeps this subreddit stuck in it’s cesspool-like state
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:38 PM
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Maybe it’s a regional thing but where i live this sort of thing happens in real life too but i will say it tends to be the lower quality women who act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:15 AM
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I wouldn’t say dating is hypocritical, more like it’s unequal since the genders have different expectations for each other. But the situation mentioned by OP is in fact hypocritical because it involves an individual making a judgement about something that they don’t want other people to judge them for. The inequity here stems from the fact that men prefer women who have as little trauma and baggage as possible and who will be enthusiastic for the new relationship. On the flip side, women prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:22 PM
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It’s not that dating is bad for women… that’s way oversimplifying. It almost seems intentional lol. Trauma and baggage are bad for everybody. And some of the worst forms of trauma for anybody both men and women are emotional and psychological damage from broken intimate relationships with other people. Trust issues, stds, comparing to previous partners… There are even scientific studies that draw clear correlations between n count and personality disorders and substance abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:58 PM
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Yeah you can but a hypocrite is still a hypocrite lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:54 PM
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If that’s what they want to do then fine. Seems very shallow and empty. If you’re not getting any love or affection but you want to, i think it’d be more fulfilling to try to grow as a person and see if you can get some rather than just giving up on it altogether. At the end of the day at least the challenge to grow gives you something to do, even if you never actually end up receiving any love or affection
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:31 AM
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I agree with him and i’ve seen a bunch of other comments that seem to as well
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:43 AM
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Maybe you could go actually listen to him or watch him instead of speculating and making judgements without knowing about the guy? Most people i know love his comedy, i’m just saying he obviously isn’t the ideal man to the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:52 AM
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Yeah we all know Bill Burr is just every woman’s dream man 🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:23 AM
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I mean most men don’t just walk up to women and compliment their tits, believe it or not. So maybe that’s why she’s never had her boobs complimented. Ask her if she ever complimented a man’s dick or his height? Idk about the other stuff but i don’t lie about my preferences and neither do most men i know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:47 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 12:13 AM
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People have been put in jail for years for not being able to afford alimony so yeah it’s not as bad as dying but it can be pretty bad. Having to pay someone money for no reason other than y’all USED to be in a relationship is a pretty shit position to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:54 PM
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You still haven’t made a solid point this entire time lmao. Irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:35 PM
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I mean when you start telling people they “don’t actually do anything” yeah it comes across as an insult to their character. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ the fact that i have to explain that. It probably blows your mind that you’re not the only one here who lifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:29 PM
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I don’t care how i come off to the dude on reddit who hurls petty insults and attacks on character when someone disagrees with him on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:25 PM
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4% is 1 in 25 If you had a 1 in 25 chance of getting food poisoning at a restaurant, would you eat there? That’s a lot of people getting food poisoning. If you had a 1 in 25 chance of dying anytime you drive a car, would you ever drive cars? That’d be a lot of death. If you’re saying yes to these questions you either don’t understand numbers very well or you hate your life? Or maybe you don’t hate your life you’re just curious what’s on the other side?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:24 PM
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Even if you don’t end up paying alimony, you gotta be really careful about who and when you choose to marry because that’s years of your life and immeasurable emotional investment Besides, 4% isn’t exactly comforting either. 1 in 25? Idk man. If i had a 1 in 25 chance of dying any time i got in an airplane i simply would never get in airplanes. But this is why you vet your partners, you can never control the outcome but you can skew probability by prioritizing certain traits and disqualifying pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:21 PM
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Ok, sure, i will tell you. No buddy, you don’t have to get married to talk to women. It can be beneficial for tax breaks and shared parental rights as well as qualifying for certain types of housing benefits, health benefits, etc. but no, you don’t have to get married to talk to women. Glad i could help you out with that, thanks for being brave enough to let people know when you need them to explain something to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:17 PM
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Why not both? Good calves go a long way. Trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:15 PM
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Oh so now you have to get married to talk to women? Lolllll
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:50 PM
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Accusing me of “not actually doing anything” after i just got home from a 2 hour 6 AM leg day lmao! Sad sad sad. Just sad all around lmao. Are you an adult or a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:35 PM
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Lol dude. Given the divorce rate for this year, the projected percentage of divorces this year is 44.2%. You’re trying to tell me my math is bad because i said 44.2% is almost half? Lmao 😂 First you accuse us of crying. Then you tell me my math is bad. Now you’re saying i’m hiding behind stats. Your debate tactics are pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:30 PM
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I can’t believe how this simple point is going over y’all’s heads; we don’t care what you individually want because we know you’re in the minority. A few reddit chicks saying they prefer john oliver types over athletes is not going to convince us to try to be like john oliver when we know all the other women prefer athletes. Should we listen to you over the majority of women who disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:26 PM
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If they aren’t athletic then they aren’t what i’m talking about lmao. Do i really have to explain that to you man? When we talk about athletic dudes, it’s completely irrelevant for you to start talking about unathletic dudes. It blows my mind that you even went there lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:20 PM
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Dude the number of marriages that end in divorce is still over 40%. Practically half. Why should we care if divorce rates are going down? It’s still a raw deal. Not only that but how many of the marriages that stay together are actually happy? A lot of people stay together because they don’t want to uproot their lives n shit But go ahead with your little passive aggressive comments saying that all we’re doing is crying lol. I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make tbh i just see you ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:17 PM
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You don’t think guys can be athletic and also work 9-5??? You can’t be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:54 PM
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Also gotta consider guys who are athletic but not professional and they pursue a career in other fields. When i talk about striving to be an athlete i don’t mean you have to dedicate your life towards being a professional basketball player.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:40 AM
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I’m not really surprised by that. Im just pointing out that a lot of them actually do quite well for themselves and have other passions too and she seems to think athletes and fighters only do those two things and nothing else lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:38 AM
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Ok i’m gonna repeat one more time; your preferences are the small small minority. That’s been the entire point of everything i’m trying to explain. This is why men strive to be like athletes instead of journalists; most women do NOT prefer journalists over athletes and men want to raise their chances of finding love so we end up not talking about journalists
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:49 AM
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People who get laid have a good understanding of what the opposite sex finds attractive, especially if there was a point in time where they weren’t getting laid and they have an opportunity to compare what they were doing differently If they just got lucky with genetics or whatever and were always getting laid from the moment they started trying to get laid, they might have a warped perspective of what the opposite sex finds attractive. Some people are physically attractive enough to be horrible…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:43 AM
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That’s cool and i’m happy for him, but surely you must understand why average men who want to be more desirable should prioritize athleticism over journalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:14 AM
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i think it’s cool that you have your own unique preferences. I just wasn’t sure if you were confused why people look at athletes as examples so that’s why i’m pointing all this out. If we strived to be like John Oliver we’d probably not end up with very much love and affection in our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:43 AM
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Bro why are you still talking about hookers lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:37 AM
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I’m just explaining why people don’t mention those dudes. You’re one in a million if you’d take John Oliver over Conor McGregor or another physical specimen of a man. I hear women saying they’re attracted to intelligence over athleticism but i really don’t see that happening much. The happiest dudes with the hottest women tend to be the ones with physical prowess. Or musicians, like you mentioned. But even average musicians struggle with women compared to average athletes because a lot of musici…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:29 AM
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Oh, you’d SETTLE for “John Oliver or something” C’mon y’all, lets all rush to get established in journalism so we can have chicks saying they WOULD SETTLE FOR US OR SOMETHING
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:13 AM
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You might not know who they are but the hundreds or thousands of women they fuck sure as hell do A journalist? That’s actually funny to me. These journalists aren’t out here getting laid like athletes and half of them are fat or skinny fat with zero muscle tone Another misconception i noticed in your other comment is that you think these athletes don’t have any interests other than “beating people up or whatever”. Some of them are like that, but a lot of these dudes are actually savvy businessme…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:12 AM
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Miss you with what exactly? Do you have a point you’re actually trying to make or are you just posting random words for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:28 AM
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How many of these women actually have kids? I don’t consider childcare to be “housework”, parenting is not some menial chore that can be shucked off lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:42 AM
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Men who pay for sex are pathetic in my opinion. So are sex workers. When i talk about men who earned their high n count i’m not talking about guys who paid for prostitutes. It blows my mind that i even have to explain that lmaoooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:40 AM
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Some of these stats are interesting to me like the men being more likely to leave their sick partners than women. What leads to that? Is it because he needs love and affection and he doesn’t want to cheat and he doesn’t care about inheriting her shit if she dies? Or is it simply because men are inherently less loyal? And the women who stay with their husbands, how likely are they to cheat? How many if them end up being beneficiaries of their partner’s will when he dies And then some of them just…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:49 PM
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I love how you just said you don’t think hypergamy is a thing but then you described hypergamy to a tee
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:49 PM
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True i’m just saying anybody who fucks themselves up in any way has lowered their value and it’s fair for the opposite sex to warn each other about those behaviors. I also think men should refrain from promiscuity but at the end of the day women prefer sexually experienced men over inexperienced men anyways. The other stipulation, which i already mentioned but will again, is that men can’t just randomly decide to have sex so often that they end up with a high n count. They have to grind for year…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:29 PM
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98% percent of people have dates? Have sex? So what? I don’t understand how that’s relevant to what i’m saying or how that’s indicative of relationship success at all. Like ok so awkward introvert boy went on a date and then got dumped. So i’m supposed to act like there’s no double standard there?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:43 PM
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Um. Ok? Sick burn i guess, do you feel better now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:41 PM
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I know the studies say that about men, i literally just posted a comment saying that lol and i’ve been saying this forever. You can even go to my post history and find examples of me saying this from months ago. I’ll link you some if you don’t feel like digging The difference is that men have to earn a high n count and women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:39 PM
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Did i ever say everyone is looking for long term relationships? You’re attacking points that i didn’t even make bro smh 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Also this body count thing goes for both men and women. So breaking it up between the sexes and comparing their cheating stats is kind of irrelevant to what i’m saying. the difference is that men have to earn high body count and women don’t. Women can be socially awkward, introverted and broke and still fuck hundreds of dudes before their 19th birthday but most du…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:34 PM
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I don’t think you understand how those surveys are conducted or how to interpret the results. It doesn’t matter if there are 100 women or 100 million. Sample size doesn’t affect percentages. 100 women saying that they find 80% of the dudes unattractive is the same percentage as 100 million women saying that. Introducing more men or removing men from the pool wouldn’t affect the percentage of men that they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:33 PM
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What am i a victim of?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:28 PM
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it’s called being a decent human being But we don’t owe anybody anything remember? Or does that only count when we’re talking about women discarding men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:13 PM
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Even the scenario in the post isn’t close to the same thing. None of this is comparable because men and women are different. Men can’t simply exist and rack up an n count. Women can be skinny, socially awkward, out of shape, dumb etc and still get a high body count. Men fitting that description don’t get laid. This is the main reason why high n count looks good on men and horrible on women. A high n count for women is like binging on junk food on a regular basis. A high n count for men is more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:03 PM
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How is it neuroticism when there is literal science that asserts body count is inversely correlated with future LTR satisfaction and directly correlated with personality/mental health disorders and substance abuse/dependence? The reason we don’t just do it silently is because we realize how long we’ve been lied and gaslit into believing bullshit narratives and once we wake up we feel the need to tell less experienced men what to look out for. Y’all would LOVE if if we’d stay quiet about the stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:51 PM
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It’s actually both but yeah i read your sources lol. Now you’re trying to say i’m “unwilling to learn” ugh smh You just enjoy insulting people who say things you don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:03 AM
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It took like 5 comments to get sources out of you, expert. Don’t act like i’m the one who was discussing in bad faith. I admitted that i was uninformed a longgg time ago lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:29 AM
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Tbh i skimmed most of your comments because you were spending a lot of time arguing about notbing. For example, telling me i “didn’t defend my point” or whatever even though i wasn’t even committed to trying to make a point and specifically said i was uninformed and deferring to you as the expert. Perfect example of arguing about nothing. Why i would i bother trying to read all that thoroughly when all i wanted was a good source from an expert so i could make up my mind about this? I still never…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:07 AM
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I literally said i was uninformed and you’re still proclaiming that i did a bad job of defending my points… This is AFTER i verbally deferred to you as the expert and admitted that i’m uninformed. And yet you’re still arguing about how i didn’t defend my point… Then you linked me to the guardian 😂😂😂 This just proves that you had zero intention other than arguing the whole time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:22 PM
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Lol now he “made it his personality” what a joke you’re just proving their point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:25 PM
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My assessment doesn’t matter when you’re the one insulting yourself lol Call me bad at judging things after i start saying you must be the expert lmao! Makes sense given that you just linked the guardian 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:25 PM
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Holy shit you hear the word “virgin” and suddenly it turns into “incel” and “women hating perpetual victims” TRP is right, women really do hate virgin men lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:49 PM
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Apparently not 😂 let these people talk long enough they start insulting themselves lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:18 PM
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I just said you’re the expert
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:13 AM
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I already said why i won’t provide sources to the expert that i’m talking to. Not my problem if you didn’t see that comment Sounds to me like you don’t actually have a point you’re trying ti make, you’re just spamming my inbox for the sake of arguing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:57 PM
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Idk what you mean, i legitimately am going to read that when i have time. I just think it’s hilarious that you’re trying so hard to gaslight me when it’s obvious that you just didn’t have any actual sources. Difference is i actually admit to being uninformed and not having good sources, you’re acting like you’re an expert meanwhile your best source is the guardian I literally just said i’m going to read them and you’re still trying to convince me that i’m not going to. Bravo, expert social worke…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:54 PM
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It takes like 4 comments to convince the expert to cite her sources and after all that time she links to the guardian and huff post. 😂 thanks expert
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:55 AM
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Here's a an article for the lay person in the UK Ok how about some expert sources too? Not just for “lay people” And that's just the start, but again it seems like you're extraordinarily determined not to ever learn anything or refer back to anything you've ever learned so do go on. Ok so i ask you for sources and now i’m not determined to learn. Pathetic conclusion. Obviously i’m gonna read this lol but it looks like you just panicked and did some google searches and linked the first two guardi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:52 AM
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Alright expert lmao I’m straight up telling you if you’re an expert like you say you are i’m probably uninformed compared to you and you probably know where to find the best sources of information and statistics on this. Literally asking you to give me the info and telling you that i’m open to changing my mind. And yet you refuse and call me a sealion lmao My sources are probably not as good as yours and i can’t even find them, it was a while back but it did leave an impression on me And now you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:10 AM
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Boo hoo if my comment gets lost lmao y’all have a chance to provide sources to a dude who admits to being uninformed compared to the expert he’s talking to and instead you’re just rambling about nothing. Case closed, next thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:05 AM
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I’m sitting here waiting for the expert here to cite sources. I’ve never seen any actual evidence of what she’s saying and i was literally trying to fact check her comment earlier I’m giving y’all an opportunity to change my mind but you’re not having it 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ you can either give me sources or accuse me of sealioning and your choice is clear
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:30 AM
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Ok so when you - the expert - ask for sources, its valid. when i ask you - an expert - sources, i’m sealioning What if i’m actually uninformed and open to changing me mind if i see any credible sources that i can cross reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:07 AM
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I don’t talk about children when i talk about this stuff. It’s weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:30 PM
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You’re the expert, maybe you should link me to proof to everything you said in your previous comment. Unless experts are asking randoms on reddit for statistics in their own field now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:29 PM
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It’s still a choice (except for rape)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:26 PM
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I’m not sure if he hasn’t posted proof or if he’s just so heavily censored that the proof he has posted is practically hidden. Time will tell. He has no reason to lie. He’s rich as fuck and his personal life is everything he ever wanted. You think he cares what y’all think about his image? He already demonstrated he doesn’t lol. In fact y’all’s hate only made him richer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:25 PM
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I agree abortion should be free and accessible everywhere. I just want to point out that unless the woman was raped, the process of childbirth is still consensual in red states. You don’t accidentally become pregnant (unless raped), there is a very specific biological process that goes into having babies. The entire purpose of sex is to reproduce. Humans are one of the few species that engage for personal pleasure and social bonding (some species literally have penises that are painful to pull o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:34 PM
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I’m not saying it does contradict anything i’m merely pointing out that the vast majority of people who complain about this sort of thing do jack shit for other people themselves and have zero dream of ever doing it either. Sometimes i carry protein shakes in my car if i know i’m gonna pass by beggars. I enjoy giving beggars protein shakes, especially the skinny ones who are clearly not eating enough. I avoid giving money because i don’t want to fuel a drug habit but rarely i will depending on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:27 PM
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Her body her choice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:09 PM
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Y’all are leaving out the fact that Andrew Tate literally donates more money to charity than probably all of you combined. Either way, you gotta look out for yoursef before you can look out for anybody else. If i’m ever rich as fuck i’d love to start a foundation in a third world country. Something like giving people access to food, water, shelter, energy, education, etc. Doubt i’ll ever be rich enough for that tho lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:15 PM
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Lol what? I’m not a sex god. I guess every guy except me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:09 PM
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60-80% of women admit to faking orgasms and 28% admit to faking it 90% of the time. I saw another study that i can’t find right this second that stated over 60% of women REGULARLY fake orgasms. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ouch-80-percent-of-women-faking-orgasms-says-study/ https://www.njsexualmedicine.com/blog/how-common-is-it-to-fake-an-orgasm-and-why-do-people-do-it https://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/04/orgasm Women also tend to say things like “i don’t want to have to teach a man how to make m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:52 AM
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The second i read “family court” in your comment i rolled my eyes. We all know how skewed that shit is against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:08 AM
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Well there are a lot of men who literally beg lol. So maybe that was the disconnect. i thought you were talking about them But even guys who have more options than average women are still less picky but what do I know i’m not drowning in pussy i just have enough options to be content
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:05 AM
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Oh i 100% agree but real men don’t beg for women. The men who are worth it end up having just as many options as women. Difference is guys are less picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:18 AM
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I voted for biden btw. I’m also voting for a democrat for city council. City council a non-partisan position but still this guy is a known democrat. It’s also full of overly promiscuous and emotionally damaged people who don’t know how promiscuity affects humans on a psychological level despite numerous studies using datasets that go back decades and to get a full view of people’s lives choices and where those people are now. There are more studies about this every couple years and they all poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:24 PM
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higher body count is correlated with a lower chance of having satisfying long term relationships. So there’s one consequence even if she’s being safe/healthy. But the concept of having sex with a bunch of different dudes in a “safe/healthy” way is inherently flawed. The more dudes a woman has sex with, the more likely she is to be damaged emotionally and the more likely she is to run into a violent abuser or rapist. Edit-this goes for both genders btw i’m only talking about women’s decisions bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:21 PM
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You already got it wrong at your first line. As soon as a man is begging for a woman he’s no longer a man. He can turn shit around and regain his manhood but your entire premise is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:12 PM
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The ones who go at it from that angle are the ones who end up with crazy high body counts and STDs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:09 PM
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Depends what she’s looking for. If she’s just looking to get dicked down then cool your argument makes sense. But if she wants to get married all she gets is dicked down then your argument starts to fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:16 PM
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Is it an insult to point out that some countries have higher rates of obesity and divorce than others? One should not feel insulted by OP’s post unless they actually fit the description he laid out. In which case they should hit the gym! It’s healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 12:45 AM
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Yeah i see where the urge comes from too. That’s how i know it’s low and unhealthy. Anyways it’s been real but i gotta go to so bye. have fun supporting people randomly calling people incel on the internet lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:30 PM
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When people say things about my demographic that i don’t like i don’t call them an incel and start throwing memes at them. I either ignore it or i tell them why they’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:24 PM
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OP didn’t target an individual and call them an incel and atart posting memes about it. Even if he did, does that make it ok to stoop? OP is using statistics to demonstrate why it might be better for men to look for their life partner in a different pool of potential partners than what’s available in the US. I don’t even entirely agree but there is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:22 PM
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The only thing you’ve done here is insult strangers on the internet. That’s not healthy behavior. I think you’d be happier if you stopped doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:00 PM
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I just want to make the question easier for her to digest is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:57 PM
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The movies were ass because the dudes usually got rewarded at the end. That’s why so many dudes think it’s normal to act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:55 PM
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Why are you going on the internet and conducting yourself this way towards strangers? Is it because you disagree with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:44 PM
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Lol why do all these blue pill people call everything “complaining” You can literally cite a scientific study and there will be blue pill people in the comments throwing the word “complaining” around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:08 AM
0

looks like my dad Well you wouldn’t exist if your dad didn’t get laid let that sink in chica
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:12 PM
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Trt is a hell of a drug And a lot of old dudes don’t need it if they’re active. It’s mostly the frail old dudes who spent their whole lives sitting in cubicles and desks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:17 AM
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I’m taking about my experience as a male who dates women. Men and women tend to be held to different stanfards so it makes sense that you wouldn’t be able to understand my perspective. I have a solid group of guys around me who get theirs too and they’ll all tel you the same thing. We have no reason to lie. The dating market is fucked up and as men we just have to learn the facts and adjust our conduct to be more conducive to our goals. Most men clearly fail at this. You said it yourself, you ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:03 PM
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I mean tbh i get mine and i STILL think some (a lot of) chicks are wack about their dating preferences. The way i attract chicks nowadays vs the way i used to be rejected back when i was a different (kinder, more considerate) type of guy is insane. I’m literally sitting here thinking sometimes (a lot of times) “if this chick had any self respect she wouldn’t be fucking with me like this”. And i don’t even enjoy spinning plates, i just don’t have to try much anymore. But i tend to keep it slow an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:18 PM
1

According to me what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:43 PM
1

Dude this I’m an independent thinker is just as group think as anything else. Well you didn’t use quotation marks in your comment so i thought you had some sort of brain aneurism while trying to tell me that you’re an independent thinker but now i see that you were just pulling another “no you”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:15 PM
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I can actually think of quite a few points where my opinions differ from andrew tate fans’ opinions but i don’t really feel like i need to prove anything to you. You can cal yourself and independent thinker all you want but you started arguing with me because i told a dude not to let a random youtuber dictate his opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:35 PM
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“I’ve only heard it from self proclaimed misogynist” Ok well i love women and it happened to me when i was younger so i guess now you’ve heard it from someone who isn’t a misogynist as well. Glad i could broaden your horizons like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:32 PM
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Thye might not SAY it but lets be real; if you see a fat broke dude walking down the street and his whole outfit looks like it cost $40 and he can’t afford a haircut, you will not look at him the same way that you look at a fit guy with a nice haircut and a nice suit. You might not call him a loser, but what are the ofds you would ever include someone like that in your life vs a fit, well-groomed, successful individual? Who is more likely to gain access to love and affection and who is more like…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:02 PM
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Then why is it that the vast majority of the world disagrees? I come to my own conclusions. I don’t take bullshit allegations and use them as a mark against someone’s character without looking for evidence I love how everything you’ve said so far boils down to “no you”. I wouldn’t expect much else from someone who has an issue with me saying to draw your own conclusions instead of letting other people think for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:40 PM
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Sounds like you didn’t watch the video. It’s full of misleading “facts” or “allegations” or whatever. It’s all the same cookie cutter narrative. People don’t think for themselves, they all blend their narratives into whatever is socially accepted. That’s why all these dudes including the dude in this video are all spitting out the same false allegations lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:14 PM
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These dudes are accepting reddit comments as legal evidence now it’s insane
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:09 PM
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Or he could form his own opinion. Like i did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:53 PM
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What actually happened was he got swatted (when someone files a false report about a heinous crime to get a famous person in trouble with the law). Someone called the US embassy in Romania and told them that Tate had women hostage. The authorities showed up, searched the premises, and found no one. There is video of this happening. No charges were filed and no arrests were made. And then people like you will eat up lies without evidence and tell other dudes to go “see sunlight” as if sunlight is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:31 PM
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Nah he doesn’t insinuate that mean who aren’t rich are losers but he gives off that attitude when he’s in character. His whole point is that SOCIETY has that attitude towards men and that if you don’t level up you will live a shitty life. I think part of your problem is you’re letting a random dude on youtube (coffeezilla) tell you what you should think about other men instead of forming your own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:25 PM
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Just because you never experienced it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. You really think all these dudes saying it happened to them are lying? Why would millions of dudes lie about that? When woman do this it’s more for validation and emotional support so the point at the end of your comment is irrelevant. Some women still try to get emotional support from their broke male friends while not contributing any emotional support back or asking them to help her move without doing anything for him, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:20 PM
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So you thought guys use it to mean lying about being in a relationship because the phrase has the word “dump” in it and you can’t dump someone without being in a relationship? I can understand your rationale for thinking that but that’s taking it too literal. Trust me guys don’t use the term like that, it only has the the word “dump” because it rhymes with “pump”, not because the process involves pretending to be in a relationship and dumping her. Although I have no doubt that some guys do lie o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:10 PM
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That’s my point. So why pretend that lying is inherently part of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:19 AM
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I’ve never seen any official definition that states pumping and dumping has to involve lying. It could just be a chad not making any promises because he knows he doesn’t owe anybody anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:18 AM
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People who have zero clue can at least bump themselves up a few points from those vids but yeah after a certain point you just gotta get the real world experience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:57 PM
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I think it’s an entitlement thing. When a woman shows you her tinder insights account stats where she had THOUSANDS of matches and her whole excuse is “well quantity isn’t the issue, the issue is quality!” it’s very difficult not to roll your eyes. You’re telling me thousands of guys weren’t qualityenough for you? Ok supreme goddess…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:36 PM
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Abuse and neglect were cornerstones of my childhood. I don’t really see your point. I’m weary of stats saying men leave their families more often than women because i know there are countless cases where men who WANTED to be fathers were unfairly denied custody and only allowed to visit on weekends or whatever. Sometimes not even allowed to see the kids at all. I bet those stats don’t take that into account. Edit- i wouldn’t be surprised if it did turn out thay more men intentionally leave their…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:30 PM
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I was physically abused throughout my entire childhood and i never saw it as an excuse to treat people poorly in my dating life or to reward toxic behaviors in women. So when i see other people conducting themselves poorly, i’m not exactly rushing to acknowledge that they were abused. I just care that they’re conducting themselves poorly. You’ll never see me lie or manipulate a woman and then be like “oh i was abused, if you’re gonna call me out at least acknowledge my abuse!”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:23 PM
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I never said you didn’t bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:10 AM
2

If you already understand then i really don’t know what you’re arguing with me about. Tbh i don’t even think YOU know what you’re arguing about. I never claimed that a single variable is the sole cause lol you won’t find a single quote where i said that but you’ll find several where i said there is more than one factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:06 AM
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Ok well i hope now you at least understand the idea of controlling for different variables when studying the effects of a single variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:03 PM
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When you run a study to determine how a factor affects a child’s development, you have to get large sample sizes and control for other factors that could skew the results. Yes, there are other factors. For example, finances. But if you’re trying to see how biological parents’ relationship affects a child, you wouldn’t take a kid who comes from a $30k income household with two loving parents and draw a direct comparison with another kid from a single parent household $100k income household. You i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:01 PM
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Straight up says single parent or step parent households produce children with higher crime and lower graduation rates… And if you were to look at other studies you’d see links to substance abuse, depression, antisocial tendencies. You’re not going to convince anybody that stable two parent households aren’t a better environment for children to grow up in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:27 PM
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Here’s the thing about that. I don’t flash my wealth, so damn right they’re not coming for me. But that’s because i’m already aware of this shit. You’re throwing shade at me for…? Idk what. But it’s not realy smart to act like you know random peoples’ lives. Obviously i’m not kanye but the fact that you’re so confidently implying that some random dude you don’t know has no resources sounds like projection to me. If you were set like i am you wouldn’t just assume other people are broke. I didn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:24 PM
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Last time i checked 10% of divorces result in alimony. Maybe it’s different now idk. If i had a 1/10 chance of dying when i travel by air, i would never take a flight anywhere. But this is why we have prenups n shit, it’s not an issue when you’re aware of it, which is why we’re having these discussions :) Tbh you probably don’t even need a prenup if you watch your step
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:52 AM
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Dude you’re embarrassing yourself. There’s only two of us and you’re struggling to read sentences, telling me i’m “myopic” for thinking there’s only one factor… after i said i see 4 factors Linking studies that reinforcr what i’ve been saying??? You genuinely can not be serious right now. You keep arguing with shit i’m not even saying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:50 AM
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I never said it was a blanket prescription 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:02 PM
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I read the entire thing, i’ve actually seen that study before too… You’re never going to convince anybody that two parent households aren’t beneficial for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:41 PM
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Your source literally confirmed what i’m saying as far as two-parent households producing children that score better in almost any significant measure for childhood development. And actually, what i meant was people who have a hard time deciphering sentences written in their native language.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:58 PM
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Dude smh. Replace “besides” with “other than” If that doesn’t help you then idk what to tell you lmao It helps to know that these are the types of people who disagree with me though 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:30 PM
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You have a healthy mentality towards it. Yes, it’s always an exchange of time or resources or sex or whatever. It becomes a problem when one is being misled or manipulated. It’s not a problem for you because you don’t realy care and perhaps aren’t interested in worming towards a future? Or maybe you are interested in that but you don’t care if it doesn’t work out? But can you honestly say that you wouldn’t care if someone misled you or manipulated you for your time and resources? Ultimately a du…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:54 PM
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Yes ma’am that is exactly what you said and it’s different than what you just claimed to have said in your last comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:49 PM
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“I acknowledged 3 factors besides the parent’s relationships status” is incoherent? Is english your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:47 PM
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The difference is the studies will just prove me right and you’ll end up looking silly for telling me that i pulled the stats out of my ass If anything you should be thanking me for not going out of my way for this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:46 PM
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I think the real reason you don’t want to link studies is that you know they’re going to reflect the numbers o provided. I’m getting ready for class so I’m not gonna link the studies that i’ve already linked to this subreddit 20 times in the past. If you’re not familiar with the numbers that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:06 PM
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That’s actually not what you said in fact i can paste your exact quote but you’re obviously confused and you think i’m saying things that i didn’t so i’m done taking to you because this isn’t going to go anywhere if you can’t get my assertion straight Like i’m literally telling you that i didn’t say what you think i said any you’re arguing about whether or not i said it instead of actually trying to understand what i mean and addressing the actual subject lmao. Anything to avoid the debate that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:00 PM
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What am i implying that you didn’t do? I’m not IMPLYING anything lol. I’m either SAYING it or i’m not. I don’t do this implying bullshit. If i’m not SAYING it then you’re making it up in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:35 PM
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I did Right, so by that logic you’re saying that they’d have more self-esteem IF THEY WERE TO stop doing that, even if it meant they’d deprive themselves of love and affection. Are you starting to understand? I never said you said anyone wasn’t getting laid. You said you assume the people who DO GET LAID using strategy don’t have self esteem. Just keep reading until you understand, you’ll get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:09 PM
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A word salad? Is that difficult to read for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:06 PM
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Last time i talked to you you were putting words into peoples’ mouths. You’re doing it again. I never said a relationship ending is always a bad thing but i don’t think you’re being honest with yourself if you don’t think that women (the gender that can not only have almost any guy within reason as long as she isn’t fat, ugly, or shitty personality but that has also been shown to be more hypergamous) don’t take advantage of guys (the gender that is judged for their height, money, physical fitnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:04 PM
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Care to link me the real stats then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:55 PM
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I’m sure some are happy, and some aren’t. Compounded with all the other facts i mentioned. I never said anything about “should be unhappy”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:53 AM
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I never said anyone should be unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:40 AM
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it’s not like that at all It’s exactly what you’re doing right now though. I acknowledged 3 factors besides the parent’s relationship status Abusiveness Finances Conflict between parents And yet somehow i’m still myopic and only focussing on one factor or whatever😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:37 AM
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Keep backtracking. I could tell you the sky is blue except for sunset and sunrise and you’d send me pictures of the sky on an overcast day and tell me i’m being myopic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:12 AM
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Because they’re being used as ATMs or placeholders until something better comes along. They’re also frequently being cheated on. Or the woman simply doesn’t respect them, nor should she; the average man nowadays isn’t worthy of respect. A relationship and a GOOD relationship are two different things. 90% of relationships fail Half of marriages end in divorcee Women initiate at least 70% of these breakups. Out of the remaining relationships and marriages that stay intact, how many do you think ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:49 AM
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raised no other points I literally said there are exceptions, then i listed one 😂 And then you listen a SECOND ONE, and I acknowledged that one as well 😂😂😂😂😂 Just because i didn’t go out of my list to type the comprehensive list of every single factor doesn’t mean that i think only one exists 😂😂 tbat’s not a miscommunication on my part, that’s a misunderstanding on your part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:38 AM
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I never said it was the only factor. You assuming that’s what i meant is a miscalculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:32 AM
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The article you linked literally gave more than one example of areas where children from step-parent and single parent households were nearly twice or twice as likely to suffer hardship compared to those from two-parent households. Your entire argument has devolved and broken down into calling me myopic and claiming that i think number of parents is the only factor. For some reason you don’t like the fact that children from two/parent households tend to do better so you started reaching for frin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:27 AM
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Never thought i’d see the day where someone had a problem with me referring to the opinions of experts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:17 AM
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I literally said there are exceptions for example if one parent is abusive. I also acknowledged finances as another factor. You did a really good job of listing of some other exceptions too, i’m proud of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:08 AM
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mirrored your own logic You haven’t done that once, but I’ve seen you THINKING that’s what you’re doing. I would never say that there’s only one factor that goes into a child’s development. But somehow you think that’s what i’m trying to say You miscalculated and misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:59 AM
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You don’t even know what i’m trying to say and yet you’re arguing with me. There are so many factors that go into it and we have a pretty good idea of how the factors affect children. But somehow you’re hyper focussing in single factors. Saying shit like “it’s just income”…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:51 AM
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I mean clearly you miscalculated somewhere lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:45 AM
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So you’re trying to look at it like me by taking a stance that i would never take? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:26 AM
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That’s the conclusion you draw???? They both play a huge role in a child’s life. Why are you refusing to listen to literal experts?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:07 AM
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I mean yeah, people from low income families DO tend to do worse… Are you really surprised by that😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:04 AM
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You said you assume guys who use strategy to get laid/relationships have low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:02 AM
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There are countless studies that straight up show children from single parent households score worse on almost every measure, from crime stats to education to financial success. Many of these studies control for socioeconomic background. Yes i would consider parents always arguing to be harmful to children. Children need a stable, 2 parent household to maximize the chance that they will flourish properly. Of course there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:58 AM
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This is the most ridiculous shit i’ve read in a while. It’s actually embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:54 AM
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Godzilla should go back to his 2nd grade reading course if he’s struggling to read this basic sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:52 AM
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You’re still talking about the exceptions to the rule though…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:45 AM
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It’s a fake “if, then” scenario which doesn’t fulfill the “if” condition… I never said that you said he isn’t having sex……..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:42 AM
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There are countless studies using data that goes back decades, how could they all be poor? You think you know better than the experts? You keep talking about the exceptions to the rule for some reason. When kids are involved it’s time to clean up the act and make sure you have healthy priorities that benefit everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:22 AM
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You’re hard disagreeing with decades worth of data analyzed by the most qualified people to speak on this issue in the world. They all agree that 2 parent households are just better for kids. Like i said there are exceptions, and you’re describing one of the exceptions. But even then, parents should NOT model that they just up and leave their spouse who they have kids with just because the relationship is slightly bad or whatever. They should model the idea of working through issues with the per…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:54 PM
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That’s pretty much what y’all are saying when you talk bad about a dude using strategy to gain access to love and affection. Yeah it was a fake quote but it’s pretty much paraphrasing your sentiment when you accuse a dude of having low self esteem for using strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:24 PM
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The whole idea of men aging like fine wine or whatever isn’t to say that they’ll all be pulling eary twenties women. It’s that the dating market often shifts in their favor when they hit a certain age where they’ve become more established and successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:47 AM
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Yeah but they’re damaging their child, any expert in child development agrees two parent households are better for children Of course there are exceptions like if a parent is abusive. In fact the threat of being left by the parent of your child is a perfect example of a situation where marriage could be beneficial but it’s still wayyy more nuanced than that. Once you have a kid it’s time to shift priorities a bit. There are people depending on you to not make shit decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:37 AM
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Your mentality makes more sense for you since you’re childfree
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:10 AM
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i didn’t say he wasn’t getting pussy I didn’t say that you said that… and you’re telling meethat i’m the one who can’t comprehend?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:50 AM
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You should build yourself up to the point where dollar signs don’t affect your sense of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:08 AM
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Tbh i don’t have a source but i’m bisexual and i look at people every day and i spend time around a diverse group of people. From liberal college students to conservative old people. Every day. So that part is more of an opinion. The fact that men’s fertility declines more slowly is a fact, the rest is just my personal opinion which you can disregard, definitely fair lol Even the link you provided states fertility becomes more of an issue around 45 for men? It’s in the first few paragraphs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:27 AM
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Age contributes to birth defects for both genders yes. Men’s age tends to be less of an issue than womens however, which is probably part of why attractive men remain attractive to women longer than women remain attractive to men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:52 AM
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Well we all know this, and we also know that youth is correlated with beauty standards for both genders. If you take a guy who has always been fit, through his entire twenties to the end of his life, yeah he will probably have looked better in his twenties. The thing is that men’s fertility doesn’t really drop at the same rate although it still clearly does drop, and many of the things that women find attractive about men (social status, established career, accrued resources) don’t really depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:37 AM
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how does that excuse the bottom feeder mindset of spending child support checks on nails and hair. Or cigarettes and wine, i’ve heard that one too lol Do you have any stats or studies that show what percentage of absent fathers want to see the kid but don’t get to vs what percent don’t care?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:58 AM
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we all have instagram I don’t have instagram. I also didn’t actually say that last quote you just typed out so idk what your deal is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:31 PM
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Real men don’t hop in plastic surgery women’s dms The men who do that shit are not the men telling you that they don’t like women with makeup. I like women who work out and eat healthy. If she wants to wear some makeup sometimes cool but i won’t be happy with someone who always has it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:31 PM
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Lmao at people trying to excuse a woman spending her child support checks on her nails rather than putting it towards a college fund for the kid. Subsidizing vanity with money that was supposed to be for the child’s development. Fuck that bottom feeder mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:32 PM
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Or, if you have abundance, you know you can get laid even if you don’t approach every viable option. Approaching every woman you possibly can is scarcity mindset. Some people want to go with the lowest risk option. And choosing not to is valid as well, if you really wanna shoot your shot at your gym go for it. But i’ve seen high value dudes get ostracized real fast when a woman had a problem with him, even without evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:28 PM
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Accusations of low self esteem are a copout to dismiss ugly truths that you don’t like. Dude gets access to love and affection using his understanding of women’s psychology? Must have low self esteem.🙄🙄 “if he really had self esteem, he’d just ignore all the scientific studies and anecdotal evidence he gathered from real-world experience, even if it does keep him loveless and sexless!”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:18 PM
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Physical violence is only one form of cruelty. Psychological/emotional abuse, lies, social manipulation, garnering benefits from feigned victimhood at someone else’s expense… Just a handful of other forms of cruelty. You can always tell who’s disingenuous on here by who takes non-gendered issues such as cruelty and tries to apply them mostly to one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:06 PM
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Yes, people in general have a capacity for cruelty and you will see people from all walks of life meeting that capacity. People will try to say things like “men are more violent! Look at the crime stats!” Men are simply more CAPABLE of physical violence, which is only one form of cruelty. that’s why they carry it out more often. if women were the larger, more physically powerful gender, would they still be committing violent crime at a lesser degree? Doubtful. Womens’ cruelty comes in other form…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:58 AM
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You equate “no makeup” to “ugly” but plenty of women are beautiful without makeup. But usually these are the physically fit women who lift weights on a regular basis. You won’t see many women who skip workouts that look good without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:24 AM
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I’d love to go on a gym date with a woman no makeup, messy hair, basic clothes, and i don’t even give a fuck if she skips the deodorant for the workout. But not the feminists. Just the normal women who live their daily life without all the politics
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:21 AM
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I love how many people think men are incapable of differentiating between “natural makeup” and “no makeup”. Sounds like cope to me, you hate the fact that you spend al that time and money on makeup only to find out that a lot of guys don’t even like it. I’m into lifting and i’m only into women who are also into lifting. Many of these women go to the gym with no makeup on. I know the difference, i see it every day. If you really think fucking MAKEUP is the difference between being a scrub and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:19 AM
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I actually prefer chicks who don’t wear makeup and get all boujie. So it’s always funny to me when women complain about having to get dolled up and spend a bunch of money and use that as justification for having all their other shit paid for Abd trhen of course you get the thousands of women who say they’re doing it for themselves, not for men. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:20 PM
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Everyone complains. Women complain, men complain, it’s not gendered lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:17 PM
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Another important distinction is that IFS does studies that pertain to families and marriage, but that doesn’t mean they’re “pro marriage” in the sense that they’ll skew their stats and try to convince everyone to get married. I don’t think i’ve even seen them mention whether or not people should get married. They just present facts, but if you can find me any writings where the explicitly try to convince people that marriage is the way to go i’d gladly read it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:57 PM
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Lol there’s always someone saying this. I ALWAYS direct you to their works cited page. Please, do yourself a favor and take a peak. You will see exclusively unbiased sources Unless you think Universities are in on the whole pro-marriage thing 😂 People don’t even know how to fact check studies anymore. That’s why this subreddit is so dogshit. A bunch of people who don’t know what they’re talking about sharing their little opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:31 AM
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The real reason for the uptick is that it’s more understood now than it ever has been so psychiatrists and psychologists are better able to identify and treat it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 08:55 PM
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If you wanna be the type of dude who doesn’t make his women cum that’s on you 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 08:45 AM
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spend more time around old money So basically, spend time around people who didn’t earn their money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:34 PM
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The contrast is there but it’s really not that stark.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:47 PM
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As someone who lives in an upper class area and grew up in one this comment is funny to me. Upper class people definitely cause big arguments and become physically aggressive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:41 PM
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That groups of people who leave their partners at a higher rate are less likely to be loyal If there’s abuse, then fine. But i don’t think that many men are actually abusing their wives. The statistics about divorce and abuse just don’t add up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:31 AM
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And apparently men are kore likely than all women to think twice before leaving. It’s called being loyal and faithful
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:33 AM
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How do you manage to say nothing with a whole sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:24 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:24 AM
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Hetero women also have a higher divorce rate than hetero men so that logic falls flat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:16 PM
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I just don’t want the bullshit narrative put on me lol. Idk about what goes on in anyone else’s mind, i’m just here to let people know that most men recognize women as human so get that shit outta here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:46 AM
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That’s such a weird thing to nitpick about the semantics 😂 of all the things to focus on
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:44 AM
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you can’t really compare something like gay men and lesbian divorce rates withou If people here are gonna try to pin relationship issues on men for “not knowing women are human” then it is 100% fair for me to compare the two. Same shit with hetero relationships. It’s always the man’s fault “oh she just knew she didn’t have to stay in an abusive relationship” or “oh the men never do any housework” Like come on. It’s always someone elses fault with some of these chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:04 AM
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it's you who can't see outside the narrow box of your own ideaology enough to have a normal discussion. What is my ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:04 PM
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it just demonstrates that it’s not a matter of not understanding the opposite gender or dehumanizing the opposite gender. It’s clearly something else. The way you phrased your first comment i responded to makes it seem like men fail to understand that women are humans simply because they’re the opposite gender. As if it’s men’s fault? So if that theory is true, then why would lesbian women end up with higher divorces than gay men? I also love how you dodged my question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:21 PM
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What sort of stuff do you think they don’t understand? Also, how do you think the scientific studies that support TRP claims play into all this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:43 PM
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Lesbians have a a higher divorce rate (almost double) than gay men. I wonder if they’re always treating each other with kindness and respect during these divorces. Do you think these divorcing lesbians never dehumanize each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:42 PM
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Lack of socialization and discipline is what keeps people average a.k.a ugly, fat and socially awkward. Average is ugly, fat and socially awkward nowadays, we all need to remember that. You’re spot on, millions of these people would be fucking SEXY if they’d just quit acting like slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:56 AM
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It’s not implicit. That’s a pretty big leap actually. Just because someone says society will collapse does NOT mean he believe he will be the supreme ruler after it all 😂😂😂😂 you don’t seriously equate the two things do you? Like really, just stop and breath for a second, think about it for 15 seconds, and ask yourself if your really think “society will collapse” is the same as saying “i will be the supreme ruler after society collapses” why would ol mate over here be horny for societal collapse?…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:40 AM
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You keep ratting on yourself lmao You outlined the best way to learn about a group, but you forgot about the fact that you said you refuse to do that earlier 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:17 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:15 AM
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The subs intro is a “source” now? LMAOOOOOOIJIUHB
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:09 AM
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Lol i went up our entire conversation and i didn’t see you cite a single source of anything. I’m done talking to you. I should have stopped after you admitted that you like to argue about stuff that you refuse to learn about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:01 AM
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I never accused you of being uneducated. I accused you of refusing to learn about the things you insult because you admitted to that yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:53 AM
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Yeah you can attack everybody else about shit that’s not even true and it’s perfectly fine But if someone criticizes you for something you ADMIT to, they look like a child
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:27 AM
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I don’t actually remember seeing anybody saying that they’d be in charge after a societal collapse Why are there so many people on this subreddit who put words in other people’s mouth? Serious Cathy Newman vibes. “SO YOU’RE SAYING THAT YOU’LL BE THE ONE IN CHARGE AFTER SOCIETAL COLLAPSE” Lol. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:20 AM
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I don’t really care if or when it happens. I just think it’s weird how you’re acting like men and women will have the same mentality to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:12 AM
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I don’t even wanna talk about divorce. It’s been found that women are twice as likely to divorce than men, even in same sex relationships lmao. Talking about divorce will only ever prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:05 AM
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It’s actually NOT ok for the dad to leave the kids. But family courts seem to disagree, they’ll often boot him out of the kid’s lives without any actual reason. No abuse, he has a job, no cheating, just didn’t work out with the mom and now the courts are playing favorites. Notice how you gloss over the fact that I specifically said it’s not an accusation of cheating. How can i accuse someone of cheating if I haven’t even met them yet. Fucking ridiculous logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:46 AM
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Holy shit. You’d leave your baby over that? Zero maternal instinct I was starting to think all that “modern woman” hate was too much but idk your comment is really fucking changing my mind. The sheer number of you who act feel that way is unfathomable. In fact this is more of a reason to be distrustful as a man lmao. I’m actually gonna screen shot your comment as use it as an example later I also specifically said many times that it’s NOT an accusation of cheating and yet you still failed to rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:33 AM
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https://www.qcc.cuny.edu/socialsciences/ppecorino/phil_of_religion_text/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm Here’s a brief rundown on how burden of proof works Wouldn’t expect someone like you, who willingly admits that you refuse to learn about the things you debate and insult, to know much about burden of proof. Honestly i don’t expect you to take the time to learn about burden of proof either It’s actually really sad to see someone with your mentality, i was above that shit by …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:32 AM
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The only point of this conversation was to show you that your refusal to learn about things really shows
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:56 PM
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You mean the thing that you admitted you don’t know anything about because you refuse to learn about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:05 PM
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Ok and who exactly are you talking about? You’re just spewing nonsense right now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:31 PM
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who’s struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:33 PM
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“Anybody who disagrees with me is trash. How do i know they disagree with me? Well, because, i do, even though i don’t know what they actually believe”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:12 PM
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that’s called willful ignorance. If you don’t want to take the time to learn about it, then why would spend time talking about it? You basically just admitted to that, it makes you look so silly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:54 PM
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I don’t actually think i’m an 8 either. Maybe she just had a particular taste for guys like me. But i will say, not to sound douchey, 8 isn’t exactly a stretch for a guy like me 😎😎💅💅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:20 PM
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that’s why we’re all here on purple pill debate Lol speak for yourself last chick who rated me called me an 8 and i had a middle aged male uber driver tell me i’m “soft on the eyes” the other day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:12 AM
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New guys like fresh n fit for example? Guys like that do talk about dating a lot but they also have whole videos about money, fitness, networking, you name it where they don’t even mention dating Personally i tend to avoid the guys who talk about women too much. Those are the ones who tend to be bitter and misogynistic. A good balance of topics is important, and of course women will come up in the discussions a lot and that’s natural but too much is just sad to see. It’s like “don’t you have mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:46 AM
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That subreddit isn’t everything there is to it. I haven’t seen the subreddit lately. Just letting you know that it’s not just dating. If you keep saying it is then you’re just gonna keep being wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:39 AM
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Most people i meet are supportive of fat people and try to kindly encourage them to first love themselves and then to eat healthy and exercise. Tik tok comments are NOT indicative of what normal people think or behave like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:00 AM
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but initially it was men telling other men to man up stop complaining, work on yourself, be fit, get your money up, learn to talk to people, work hard, make connections, then eventually dating should be on your mind. I do agree now that it’s just a collection of dudes selling the hope of getting sex to other dudes Idk maybe your youtube algorithm is fucked up and it’s only showing you dating videos. all those other things you mentioned are just as big a part of RP as they ever were. I STILL hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:39 AM
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Yeah it’s so fucking awesome to do regular adult stuff Also you’re wrong that RP is only about dating. Goes to show how little you’ve actually taken the time to learn about what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:35 AM
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Idk i found TRP about 8 years ago. I was 18. At first i thought it was bullshit. I’m sold on it now that i actually have experience with women though lol. But it really isn’t much different other than it’s more well known and has a bigger following and more and more people are starting to accept it as truth. Maybe the fact that there are scientific studies that back up red pill claims is part of the reason for that. In fact that’s one of the biggest difference i’ve seen; there have been quite a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:33 AM
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I 100% agree that a lot of guys over theorize it especially when they’re inexperienced. So thats why we get experience But you have to actually do shit to get experience
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 11:58 PM
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I don’t agree with every single thing that every single prolific red piller says. So don’t put their words into my mouth. Call me green pilled. I really don’t give a fuck man. But there’s a reason why there’s such a clear divide in the mentality amongst people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:34 PM
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Why are you focussing on those examples of things that i didn’t even say when we’re talking about MY stance and MY beliefs? Are you trying to put words in my mouth? Don’t get examples of things that i didn’t actually say and then start arguing with me about them as if those things have anything to do with me or my worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:45 PM
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Look at you, preaching about science and then pulling a 180 and saying that the conclusions drawn in the actual text of the study are incorrect and then attributing that “error” to red pilled folk who are simply sharing the results of the study. That’s what makes you blue pilled and me red pilled. I’m not gonna tell the scientists that their conclusions are incorrect. I also just straight up have experience with women so i know a lot the shit is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:06 PM
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If it’s just science then why do blue pillers argue with it so much? It’s insane to me how you’re really trying to tell me that a guy who acknowledges that body count matters, hypergamy, preselection, divorce rates, skewed family courts, dark tried traits, etc are all real things… that he isn’t red pilled. These things are not accepted by mainstream society. That’s what makes it red pill. The masses are denying it even with the evidence in their face. Youre being extremely dishonest with yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 08:38 PM
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Those links in my comment are blue pilled or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:51 PM
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But i’m not even mad about it lol so idk what your point is. This is how dating is SUPPOSED to be. I only made my comment because the other user is acting like it’s weird but it’s actually perfectly normal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:20 AM
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Saving this comment. Very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:00 AM
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Lol thank you for saying that. I was thinking that would be a big motive for women not wanting men to take these tests but i didn’t want to come across as discussing in bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:49 AM
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If a woman decides that you aren’t good enough for her because you don’t have enough money or you aren’t socially connect or whatever, then being kind, decent and loyal will only make her view you as a pathetic simp and maybe even start to feel threatened and call the police on you. Honestly the only issue i have with the way OP phrased it is that it goes for both genders. If someone decides they don’t like you, it doesn’t matter if you treat them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:47 AM
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I don’t believe any of those except for sometimes the last one; i think being vulnerable with a woman has a good chance of making her lose respect for you i’ve seen it happen in person and i’ve had it. happen a couple times to me. But it’s situational. It highly depends on the woman and pretending that it doesn’t happen would be dishonest. I also don’t believe in biological determinism, that sounds more black pill. You know what i do believe though? women are generally attracted to dark triad tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:26 PM
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Ok. So there’s twice i’ve said i’m redpilled. You said every red piller is sexist. Well i just told you i’m red pilled, then you found another comment where i said i’m red pilled, and you also seem to think i’m not sexist. So which it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:14 PM
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Obviously it’s different. But the effect on her is exactly the same. Main difference is a cheeseburger can’t tell you if it’s your baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:28 PM
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Lol whatever you say. I’m red pilled. But obviously i’m not sexist. Eat crow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:28 PM
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It’s not the exact situation but it’s actually a perfect example of what i’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:23 PM
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How is that pertinent information? Do i also have to make sure she agrees if i want to go buy a fucking cheeseburger? I mean fuck sake do y’all want a grown ass man or not? Sometimes a dude is gonna make a decision on his own. It wouldn’t even affect her if she doesn’t know. “Pertinent”, ok…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:22 PM
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The concept of distrust towards someone you don’t even know exists is absolutely ridiculous. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:20 PM
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all red pillers are sexist. All of them. What’s the most sexist thing i’ve ever said?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:17 PM
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You’re just wrong. I haven’t even met whoever’s gonna have my kids, if i ever even have kids lol. How can you sit there with a straight face and tell me that i’m distrustful towards someone i don’t even know exist 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:16 PM
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Do you have anything to actually say or are you just here to whine? I bet you can’t even explain how this is toxic. I know what you’re gonna say because it’s gonna be the same thing that everyone else says but i’ll wait to see what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:13 PM
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Well obviously tribal humans were more violent, i thought that sort of went without saying. but can you find me any sort of scholarly source saying that men frequently fought to the death for the sole purpose of having sex with women, as if it were the main mating procedure? Because i’m looking myself and I can’t find anything on that. We’d be extinct if we didn’t cooperate throughout our evolutionary timeline. We’re a naturally cooperative species. Of course there are wars man, but that’s not o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:49 PM
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I’m not talking about you and your husband though! This is a crazy phenomenon to me, how there are so many women who make this about them or take it as a personal attack. Can you take a step back and look at it from someone else’s eyes? Doubting your intelligence? Where does that even come from? You’re making it too personal. It’s not about you specifically, or your trustworthiness, or your intelligence. It’s about the fact that people have trusted their wives before and still got fucked over. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:44 PM
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I’ve actually been waiting for an opportunity to point this out but i didn’t want to go down a bunch of rabbit trails! Thank you for pointing this out, seriously. Can’t believe how few people even think about this. Baby swaps legit happen and sometimes they’re on accident l, sometimes they’re on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:39 PM
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the consequence doesn’t matter here But that’s where the lack of empathy sets in. Could you look a dude dead in the eye and tell him consequences don’t matter here if he found out he’d been raising another dude’s baby? That’s 18 years of life, finances, and a whole relationship with a whole baby dude! But yeah i agree it should be done silently. I guess i just want to see it normalized to the point where people actually consider men’s concerns rather than immediately taking offense and assuming …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:39 AM
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Lol what makes you think he’s happy about that 😂 i’m talking about real life scenarios. This stuff actually happens, a lot actually. And i promise you guys aren’t happy when they find out lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:37 AM
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No shit? Bro you know what else? Brace yourself this is about to blow your fucking mind. You ready for what i’m about to tel you? THE SKY IS BLUE! What other obvious facts are we gonna share with each other today? Still doesn’t mean every single violinist hates women 😂🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:14 AM
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I never said anything about taxes homie Besides, there are plenty of personal crises that get dealt with by taxpayer dollars. Oh, your lung collapsed and you can’t afford the lifesaving treatment we gave you? SOUNDS LIKE A PERSONAL CRISIS. But either way i was thinking more of private tests🤷‍♂️ but now that you mention it i do think men should have that option available for free upon delivery of the baby. It’s actually not just a personal problem either, it affects the whole family including the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:10 AM
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But that’s not the assumption that i’d be making. Why are you trying to tel me the reason for me doing things? anyways yeah i do think it would be insulting to ask for an std test after a trip and i can see why you would think those are contradictory belief but keep in mind that only one of these examples could leave you with a baby that isn’t yours for 18 years! Honestly it’s not even cheating i’m worried about, it’s raising another dudes baby and/or missing out on raising my own kid in the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:06 AM
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Dude what the fuck are you talking about? Did you understand what i was saying or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:11 AM
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if you are really that worried the kid isn't yours that you would ask to get a DNA test, then clearly you have some logical reason to suspect something and have seen red flags. This is a false premise. You can trust a woman who never gave you a reason not to and still get the DNA test just to be sure. Just like how a lot of people get STD tests with their partner before having sex for the first time. It doesn’t mean something specific made you think they have AIDS, it’s just a precaution. Do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:09 AM
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But what makes red pill unique to any other dating advice forum? The overt sexism. The outward just hatred towards women, and acceptance and encouragement of that hatred Tell me you’ve never actually listened to anything TRP says without telling me you’ve never actually listened to anything TRP says. Yeah, some TRP dudes hate women. Just like I’m sure you could find a violinist who hates women. Does that mean ALL violinists hate women? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:51 AM
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That’s just not how the word assume is used. You don’t “assume” something “might” have happened. You either assume it happened or it didn’t. “I just assumed she might have cheated me” like that doesn’t really say anything. That’s a fake statement that’s being put into my mouth and it also really doesn’t make sense when you think about it. “Do you know if john remembered to move the car from the pay-to-park?” “I just assumed he possibly did” Like what? You could assume he did, or that he didn’t. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:41 AM
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I just don’t see how you don’t acknowledge the future 18 years of possibly raising a kid that isn’t yours
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:50 AM
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Lol just no man. There is no evidence that 20% of men killed 80% of men. It just isn’t there. Think about how fucking violent we’d all be if that were our evolutionary history.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:46 AM
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I love how you guys always start by propping up some strawman “they” who is “insulting/shaming” men with the very counterpoint you’re getting ready to attack. I mean i literally got insulted about this today lol, and it’s happened before and it’s aways the same thing “you’re just insecure, don’t have kids with someone if you don’t trust them”. So i’m not making up a fake strawman, this is actual stuff that’s been said to me lol. In fact you can even scroll down in this comment section and find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:43 AM
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What if this what if that What if we look at the actual evidence we do have lol? Or we could just ignore the actual experts and form shitty little reddit theories Yeah we already know sometimes men would take the women when they won wars. But this idea that 20% killed 80% for access to mates has zero evidence or merit meanwhile we actually have evidence of men cooperating on massive scales lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:37 AM
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I guess you could try actually reading the post and answering the question lol Or you could not, and just continue to send us meaningless comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:21 AM
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An assumption is when you believe something without knowing enough information to make that call. The whole point of the DNA test is to gather the information. The DNA test doesn’t have to automatically be an assumption, it can just be to make sure. Yeah she cheated on you in the past, and if you don’t find out, then in the future you will be raising a child that is not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:09 AM
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Um… you do realize that anthropologists seem to universally agree that tribal humans were cooperative? There is no evidence that tribal male humans went around killing each other until only 20% remained. Yeah there were wars, but that was rival tribes fighting each other, not 20% of the men killing 80% so they can have more sex. Like obviously people would have killed each other for mating rights but 80%? Cmon now. I will gladly shut up and eat crow if you find me some evidence that supports you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:57 AM
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Ok now what about the part where supposedly 80% of tribal male humans who ever lived were killed by stronger men? I’ve never heard anything like that. I highly doubt that 70-80% of men in prehistoric tribes died to stronger men. Anthropologists typically assert that tribal humans were cooperative and solved problems together. Anthropologists also say that we can assume chimp and bonobo behavior is most similar that we can find in nature to what prehistoric human tribes would have been like. Yeah…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:53 AM
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I honestly wouldn’t expect a bluepilled dude to be able to give a much more meaningful response to this question than that so i guess that sounds about right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:45 AM
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Of course, it doesn't. The thing about DNA tests is that you can't mitigate this assumption that they might have cheated on you and you want to check it. It’s not an assumption though. I think this is where the big disconnect is. Women think of it as a personal attack or judgement whereas men just view it as a way to make sure his life stays on track and he doesn’t raise another man’s baby. No, with the warranty something "wrong" can happen in the future. With DNA tests the only thing that could…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:43 AM
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That’s more of a reckless assumption though. Some guys get DNA tests with the mentality that he doubts she cheated on him but he simply wants to know for a FACT. And forgive me for sounding like a parrot but trusting your wife doesn’t mean she didn’t cheat. as it's literally in case something will happen in the future. DNA tests are in case something has already happened When i made the warranty analogy i actually was thinking about the future too, the next 18 years of life where you actually ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:06 AM
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Dude i have no idea what you’re taking about. Semper fi? I’m not in the marines dude 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:48 AM
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All in all i like your overall mentality towards it. It’s nice when women at least try to understand why so many guys feel strongly about this. But i’d like to address a nuance I disagree that it implies a lack of trust towards the partner and i feel like the scenario outlined in my post should be a perfect demonstration as to why. i can also compare it to buying a warranty for a guitar or something. You don’t plan on it breaking before the warranty expires, you don’t expect it to. It’s just in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:42 AM
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My b i didnt see it cuz i was typing ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:27 AM
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Ok i didn’t read that but i did report it for breaking rule 3. Hope you had fun typing that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:26 AM
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Interesting take, thanks. Brings me to two other questions though, with this scenario mind, do you still think that wanting to get a DNA test automatically means he doesn’t trust his wife? Or are you now more open to the idea that a man can trust his wife while still being aware of the possibility of being cheated on? Why should a man make sure his wife agrees to a paternity test if he can do it just him and the kid without her knowing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:22 AM
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Seems like a crafty way of dodging my question though. The whole point of this post is to outline an extremely common and realistic scenario and ask if you would still hold that same belief. This is the situation that fathers want to avoid and i’m just wondering how blue pillers feel about that given how they seem to respond to DNA testing in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:16 AM
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This question is mostly towards the people who say that men shouldn’t get DNA tests if they trust their wives. Or that getting one means they don’t trust her. Idk if you’re one of those people but if so, would you repeat that to any of the countless men who trusted their wives and still got cheated on? If not, what changes would you make to that statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:10 AM
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Does getting a 2 year flood insurance plan imply that i think my house will flood within two years? Does getting a warranty on my guitar imply that i think my guitar will break? Does having someone sign a liability waiver imply that i think they’re about to die?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:58 AM
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It’s not difficult to respond to people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:54 AM
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It’s not that big of a deal though, you’re blowing it way out of proportion. Why does a dna test have to mean i don’t trust her? What if i trust her AND get a dna test… And yes i like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:48 AM
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I mean yeah i guess that works, but you just completely changed the entire meaning of what you said so you can’t blame me for “misinterpreting” it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:38 AM
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Not only that but some people are really good at manipulating people and they won’t give you any red flags in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:36 AM
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You realize that men who aren’t insecure have been cheated on too right? It blows my mind that you’d really call a man insecure for wanting to know that his baby is actually his. Smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:35 AM
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Full grown adults communicating in hints and expecting everybody to know what they mean lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:28 AM
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Dude what’s your issue? You just go around on this subreddit accusing the men here of wanting to beat or rape women. That’s weird as fuck man grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:17 AM
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Nah, it doesn’t mean you don’t trust her. It just means you’re able to conceptualize the idea that a woman can cheat on you even if you do trust her and you may as well cover your ass. How many dudes out there do you think trust their cheating wives and are raising another man’s child? You think it’s in the hundreds? Thousands? Millions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:11 AM
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i view it as more of an insurance policy than a lack of trust. I’ve always found it so strange that people get offended by this or that they assume you must not trust them. If i were to marry a wealthy woman and she had me sign a prenup, is that a lack of trust? Should i leave her for wanting a prenup? If a woman were to ask me to get STD tested before we had sex, is that a lack of trust? If so why you having sex with someone you don’t trust? Anyways, yes if ever have kids i will get them tested…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:07 AM
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Trusting someone doesn’t prevent them from screwing you over. Have you really never been screwed over by someone you trusted?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:59 AM
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Does the idea of a man being able to know for certain that the kid is his bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:58 AM
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As if no one has ever been screwed over by someone they trusted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:56 AM
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The wall doesn’t really have anything to do with which gender has more options in the dating market, it’s more specific to the individual. Women will always have more options in the dating market but that doesn’t mean that Drew Barrymore still looks as good as she did in her twenties. The average guy is a horrible benchmark to use too. Just because someone has more opportunities than the average guy doesn’t mean they haven’t hit the wall. remember, the average guy is low muscle tone, chubby, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:15 AM
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I’m not even talking about domestic violence, why are you honing in on that specifically? I myself am a victim of domestic violence, in fact it happened more than once. But i wouldn’t stay with a woman who was abusive towards me for 2 years. I’m just pointing out the cop-out reasons that some women use when they don’t want to be held accountable for their failed relationships. They know they can just say their ex was abusive and there will always be a sucker who will have zero doubts and take he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:16 PM
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I never said domestic abuse is justified or that you should deal with cheating by hitting her. You’re putting words in my mouth that i didn’t actually say and arguing those words even though i never said them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:56 PM
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they often make fun of these desperate dudes Sometimes they make fun of dudes who aren’t even desperate. Like the mere fact that he even had any interest in her was enough for her to start smearing his name to her friends when all he did was respectfully ask her out and handle it with class when she said no. Doesn’t matter if he was a gentlemen, it’s time to make fun of him for being attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:47 PM
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It’s not that women can’t date, just don’t spend your peak attractive years acting like a flakey slut and then get all pissed that the guys who had to deal with flakey sluts when they were babyfaced young men don’t come flocking to you and instead opt for younger women who chose to skip the ho phase. It’s actually pretty reasonable when you think about it, as long as you avoid getting offended by something that might not even apply to you. This stuff only applies to aging women who spent their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:43 PM
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They sound like great reasons until you ask what was so shit about his personality and the crickets respond for her Or until she mentions that she stayed with him for 2 year despite his “shit personality” like wtf? How am i supposed to take you seriously or feel bad for you when you stayed with someone who had a shit personality for that long and you claim he was abusive the whole time? And of course 9 times out of 10 they claim they were completely innocent and never once did anything wrong. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:51 AM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness Check out figure 2 in that article. That’s a meta analysis of 30 years worth of data from a yearly survey conducted by the University of Chicago. It’s called the General Social Survey. IFS is often criticized for being a religious organization but their sources are usually secular (i don’t think i’ve ever seen them cite a bad or non-secular source) and i actually think they remain pretty biased, you wouldn’t know they were r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:36 AM
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I’ll be honest i think everybody who has a lot of sexual partners eventually loses the ability to bond the way they could when they were inexperienced. Not just women. Sometimes it’s a good thing but i know that’s not what you’re talking about. There are some datasets out there that get referenced a lot, the IFS articles that reference the University of Chicago surveys about marriage satisfaction, n-count, etc… I think it’s weird how many guys ignore the fact that men’s likelihood for marital sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:59 PM
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What realities? The realities where asian men need to earn $309k more per year to be seen as equally desirable to a white dude? Yeah we already consider them. or at least thanks to TRP, more and more guys are starting to consider them. in fact we have whole scientific studies looking into these sorts of realities. And you say you take pleasure in seeing men struggling like that. That’s not cool. You know that not every guy who struggles is sexist? So now you’re just the type of person who enjoys…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:48 AM
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Ok sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:02 AM
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It helps to stimulate the mind but yeah i’ve jerked it without porn plenty of times lol. Sometimes i DREAM about it and then i bust the strongest nut of my life. I swear those wet dream mid-sleep orgasms are the best. No porn required. Like i said earlier, i might visualize myself experiencing something in the porn but i’m not FANTASIZING ABOUT A SPECIFIC PERSON when i watch the porn. I also said this isn’t gender-specific and i’m just differentiating between the behaviors of watching porn with …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:02 AM
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Even without acting on it, i just think there’s a big difference between watching porn with random actors who you don’t care about at all and don’t want to have sex with vs. fantasizing about having sex with a specific individual. Especially if it’s someone you know, like a coworker (one of the examples OP gave) You keep asking what the difference is and i already told you but maybe listing them separately will help. Random actors who you don’t know and don’t care about vs. a specific individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:49 AM
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Friction on my dick
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:40 AM
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A man thinking about sex, literally watching it, and getting off to it isn’t the same as just thinking about sex in a woman’s mind with some fictional guy you’re just envisioning in your brain Well this is probably the disconnect between us because that’s not really what the post is talking about. It’s no wonder you’re so flabbergasted by my position, you think i’m saying something that i’m not. We aren’t even taking about the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:20 AM
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No, i don’t want to have sex with a pornstar or other sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:17 AM
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First of all, this isn’t really gender-specific for me. I only said “if i were dating a woman” because i don’t date dudes and i wanted to explain the contrast between how i would perceive the two behaviors. I just don’t think watching porn is the same as fantasizing about doing stuff with strangers, which is what the post is about. Literally zero desire to meet up with abella danger. I want nothing to do with her. I just think some of her videos are hot. You will never catch me making reddit pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:13 AM
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If i were dating a woman and she watched porn, i wouldn’t consider it “fantasizing about strangers”. I’d just consider it watching porn. When i watch porn, i’m not fantasizing about actually doing something with another person in real life lol. I might visualize it but i have no intentions of meeting up with anybody and doing anything with them. My intentions with porn go no further than sitting alone in a room and stroking my cock and i am well aware of that while i’m doing it :P. Fantasizing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:44 AM
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I’ve also read several posts on the sex subreddit from women who are unfortunately not able to bring themselves to orgasm. So i’m sure that the 70% would be even higher if it weren’t anatomically more difficult for women to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:36 AM
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Ok i see what you’re saying now. But it still doesn’t make any sense😫😫 why are you randomly talking about rape? Where did that even come from???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:45 PM
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Is it bad to want to have consensual sex? It’s bad to ever even consider not having it. That would make one a rapist. Those are literally your own words. You’re saying that wanting consensual sex from all the women you date makes someone a rapist? That just doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:01 PM
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Idk but i do know that honest guys exist. And a lot of them aren’t short, bald, or fat. Maybe they just aren’t the types of guys you talk to. It sounds like you mostly deal with toxic guys. Lets just stop pretending that having standards for who you love is a bad thing, as if it’s comparable to manipulating someone into buying you free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:59 PM
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I love how you’re trying to act like your comment wasn’t supposed to be some sort of excuse or justification for the 1/3 of women who admitted to doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:02 PM
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Omg maybe you really do love unconditionally. Would be super rare. Also pretty unhealthy tbh. You shouldn’t love unconditionally. Here are some examples of conditions you should set for someone before you let them be a significant part of your life: They treat you with respect They’re honest You’re actually attracted to them Just to name a few. There are some other important ones that i didn’t mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:34 PM
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That doesn’t answer my question. You chose to stay with guys who did that, but did you really do that “unconditionally”? Would you have stayed with them if they were short, balding, and fat too? And put those guys aside for a second. Do you ever love anybody without any set of conditions? Could you really just walk up to a dude, no matter how short, ugly, fat, balding, or broke he is, and just decide that you love him without any conditions? Doubt it. Love is always conditional. Especially in da…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:55 PM
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Consensual sex is NOT rape. Someone is not a rapist for wanting to have consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:19 PM
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but even then i doubt it’s as common as men here pretend it is. Fortunately for us, we don’t have to pretend anything. There are surveys where at least 30% of women admit to doing it. Also makes me wonder how many of them were actually honest, really wouldn’t be surprised if some people would even lie in a survey just to avoid the cognitive dissonance of wanting to believe that they’re a good person while also manipulating people out of their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:17 PM
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Is it bad to want to have consensual sex? Why are you comparing it to manipulating someone into buying you free food?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:12 PM
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Is your love unconditional?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:11 PM
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Doesn’t really matter though. Imagine trying to use that justification with cheating “oh it’s not like i frequently do it, i just did it once” as if that’s supposed to make anybody feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:10 PM
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There it is folks. TRP is always saying how women don’t really make these decisions for themselves but rather they see what other women have decided first. And now we have two lovely ladies here basically confirming that. How is this shit even a debate anymore lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:47 PM
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Why does this sound like a response that amber heard would give 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:23 PM
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He has more search volume on google than kim kardashian right now. If that doesn’t count as “blowing up” then idk what does lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:16 AM
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Ah i see, that’s interesting i’m not super familiar with unions. I’ve mostly worked in restaurants and done a little bit of self employed stuff. This is a bit off topic but do you prefer working without a union?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:26 PM
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Lol what was the job?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:04 PM
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Lol at my workplace, people notice each other working hard and instead of supporting each other they will try to sabotage the hard worker because everyone wants the same promotion. Gotta love capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:37 PM
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admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom the imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… These are all platonic things though, it doesn’t make any sense for the author of this quote ti be calling that shit homoerotic lmao! They can all be platonic feelings. The only one there that makes any sort of sense for her argument is “love” b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:05 AM
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Yeah it’s smartest to just follow your gut and not worry about if it’s perfect. I just made my other comment because as a guy it is interesting to hear someone say they can smell it without already knowing. I’ve been called misogynistic before lol but i really prefer women over men if I’m being honest. but now that you clarified yeah that stuff is toxic behavior. Not necessarily “misogynistic”, just toxic because women can do that stuff too, some actually do it. I’m curious, where do you draw th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 09:22 PM
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Unless they actually saw him do something abusive or misogynistic, they have no way of knowing. Especially if this same person has a history of not being able to tell if guys are misogynistic or abusive. That’s why they’re using words like “smell” because it’s an intuition-based assessment devoid of actual proof lol. Is it really hard for you to believe that a guy might be falsely labelled as misogynistic? I’ve seen guys get destroyed for simply calling a woman “beautiful” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:36 PM
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1) seen/ experienced it enough to be able to identify it quickly, And even then you probably have instances where you falsely identify. Don’t get me wrong you should definitely listen to your gut but i’m willing to bet that you or other women have had times where you thought you could smell misogyny or abusiveness on a man but he was actually a decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:07 PM
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Crazy how his personality is “odious” and yet he’s drowning in pussy What does that tell you about intergender dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:48 PM
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Lol he doesn’t sell an easy solution to anything. In fact it’s actually quite the opposite, he tells guys that they have to grind and take the difficult path. This is how i can tell you don’t actually know what Andrew Tate says or thinks. Crazy how people try to have an opinion on things that they don’t actually know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:45 PM
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You’ll never see a guy getting upset about receiving random compliments from random women. This is exactly the attitude that we’re talking about in this thread lol. Like i said, might wanna go through the comment chain again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:37 AM
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Some of those guys didn’t even mention her ass. I think you and i are talking about 2 completely different things. Might wanna go through this comment chain again
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:47 AM
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“Be a decent human being, never call a woman beautiful!”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:24 AM
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Yeah, it’s not like they were intentionally TRYING TO GET CLIPS FOR A SEGMENT ON CAT CALLING LMAOOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:22 AM
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Oh yeah, she just happened to be existing, of course they had ZERO plans of trying to catch guys catcalling, all those clips they recorded and edited together was all just a coincidence 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:17 AM
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There was a news story where they were baiting men into “catcalling” by getting a woman with a phat ass and having her randomly walk around the city in black leggings. There were a couple of guys who just called her beautiful or whatever and they wound up following and accosting those guys. Some of them could have been considered “cat calls” for sure but some of then were just guys giving out honest compliments https://youtu.be/G8JiDtEKZuM I’ve seen other videos where this happens too; genuine c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:44 AM
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ultimately cucked my source? Reality Very compelling bud you sure sound like you know what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:47 AM
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If you can’t find a way to reliably measure reality to provide a legitimate reason to believe that your claims are reality then it doesn’t really count as a source. I don’t think i should have to explain that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:53 AM
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Lol my source? Reality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:06 AM
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I think you missed the point of my comment. All i’m saying is he clearly didn’t “choose” to be “as repulsive as possible” and you’re literally just shaming him and being passive aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:31 AM
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is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:29 AM
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Do you have a source for this or is it just your opinion? How do they fix it? What causes the psychological damage?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:37 AM
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Notice the difference between how you said that vs how she said that. As if he’s purposely making himself repulsive… i don’t see how you could miss that passive aggression, she’s definitely throwing shade at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:47 AM
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I’m not exactly sure that’s how sexual preferences work, i don’t think you can be shamed into new sexual preferences but please if you can link scientific findings that prove me wrong i’d be glad to read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 09:01 AM
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What i said to her has nothing to do with whether or not she’s being honest. She’s literally just shaming him. There are ways to answer OP’s question honestly without passive-aggressively putting him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:18 AM
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I could understand you saying that if he was being misogynistic or something, but he’s literally just talking about his sexual preferences/kinks that he has no control over and you’re trashing him for it. That’s honestly not cool and you’re just proving TRP right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:58 AM
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I just told you the statistic and you said i was wrong 😂 What are you even arguing about man? You sound like you don’t even know what point you’re trying to make and yet you keep going and going lol. I’m not sure what you mean by “isn’t working”, I have a lot more success with women than i ever did before i found TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:37 PM
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I see so many attractive people at the gym it’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:36 PM
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Why would it be problematic if someone doesn’t want to go to college, or if they don’t want to go into political, or if they don’t want to be CEOs? They’re just choosing their path in life. Are you a CEO? If no, is it a problem to you? Are you a politician? If noC is it a problem for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:02 AM
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Personally i don’t place much emphasis on “dominating women in the most important indicators and being more praised/valued by society” so i don’t really view it through that lens. I mean if that’s how you wanna look at it then cool but whatever. I know you “don’t recommend anyone being a man today” but personally i kinda enjoy my life and i like having a cock and balls so i’m chillin, don’t plan on changing my gender anytime soon but thanks for the recommendation i guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:13 AM
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There could be a third reason; some men simply don’t want to go to college. I think it’s more likely that they just don’t want to than they’re dumber or being discriminated against. The median IQ for men and women is about the same, although the mean iq for men is actually a few points higher Some colleges do have quotas where they will try to enroll a minimum amount of ethnic minorities, lgbt, or women. This could lead to the potential discrimination that you mentioned but i still don’t think m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:54 PM
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You should only go to college if it fits within your life goals. It shouldn’t be something that you’re doing simply to meet women or to measure up to their standards lol. Some guys go into aviation, some guys go into music, the fitness industry, start businesses without a degrees, plumbing, engineering, etc. none of those require degrees, except some types of engineering. A lot of guys simply don’t want to go to college. Remember, men on average still earn more than women even with women outperf…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:38 PM
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If someone were to say that, would you have a rebuttal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:15 AM
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Lol, ok i’ll humor you. What percentage of marriages end in divorce? Anyways, way to zero in on one tiny facet of the entire world of intergender dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:00 PM
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It’s possible but you gotta realize that content creation on the internet isn’t overnight money, there are quicker ways to make money that require much less effort. it can take months or years before these content creators even build up enough of a following to start making more than a few bucks off of their videos, meanwhile they’re investing hundreds or thousands of dollars into their production sets. Not only that, but a lot of these videos get demonetized at an insane rate without even being…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:05 PM
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The main thing is just knowing my guy. You don’t have to do anything in particular. But if you didn’t know that half of marriages end in divorce or that higher body count is correlated with lower marital happiness, or that women are statistically more attracted to certain things, then you’re at a disadvantage as far as being able to decide who is worth your time or how to carry yourself. There really is no argument for the idea that it’s not better to know the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:44 AM
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I can’t speak for other men, but i definitely don’t consider “naïveté” to be attractive. It’s not always a deal breaker but it can be an issue, i don’t want to feel like a woman is gullible or falling head over heels for me without even knowing me. What are some behaviors a naive woman would have that you think men would be attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:14 AM
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I never said they’d always happen. Idk where you got that from. It’s not self-sabotaging to know statistics 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:02 AM
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It’s just better to have the information than not to have it, period. There are no ifs lol. Why would you not want to have scientific data if it’s available?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:05 PM
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Yeah it would be cool to see that context too but it’s not super relevant because the trends don’t really change a whole lot, at least not in heterosexual marriages. For example, regardless of income bracket, women are more likely to initiate the divorces. in fact they’re even more likely to initiate divorce if they earn more lol. I haven’t seen any figures on how children or age affect divorce statistics but I doubt those factors change the trends much either. I wouldn’t be surprised if those f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:51 PM
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Yeah, some people don’t wanna stick out being unhappy, but at the same time some people are just harder to please and less loyal. More data would be good, i agree. But we go off of what we have and i doubt the data trends would change much after another 20 years. According to the data on heterosexual marriages (which is far more extensive and goes back many more years than the data on same-sex marriages), women have always been less likely to be satisfied and more likely to initiate divorce and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:28 PM
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Depends what country we’re talking about. Either way, it’s irrelevant. They calculate divorce rates by dividing the number of divorces by the number of marriages in a given year and then multiplying that number by 1000. So given that gay marriage has been legal for 20 years, there has been time to calculate the percentages. Gay men have consistently had the lowest divorce rates. In some countries lesbian couple divorce rates are nearly twice as high as heterosexual couples. This is probably due …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:22 PM
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Gay men are less likely to divorce than heterosexual couples, whereas lesbian women are more likely to divorce https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2016/13/lesbian-couples-likelier-to-break-up-than-male-couples
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:44 AM
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If lying about not being a virgin isn’t “acting like a virgin” then idk what is lmao. That’s the most stereotypical virgin thing i can think of, “lying about not being a virgin” lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:56 PM
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It’s better to have the information than to not have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:31 PM
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You learn how to filter bad advice with experience of your own. There are studies, surveys, statistics, etc. decades of information. Literal science lol. A bitter divorced individual is one thing, real science is another
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:10 PM
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Of course real experience is key. That goes without saying. But having access to knowledge backed by literal SCIENTIFIC surveys, studies and statistics about gendered behaviors/dynamics and societal expectations/dynamics is endlessly beneficial compared to being like “oh why did she do that” and having the clueless fucks in your day to day life give you shitty subjective opinions A lot of scientific facts about men and women’s behaviors and the expectations placed on each gender is so taboo. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:08 PM
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How is it bad to act like a virgin if it’s not bad to be a virgin lmao? How does a virgin act? i’d like to point out there are literal studies on intergender dynamics that you’ll probably find on the internet. You can say that the internet is a collection of mankind’s worst advice, but science is science. There have been numerous studies and surveys on hypergamy, dark triad traits, body count, gendered dating preferences/criteria, marriage/divorce statistics, etc. many of these drawing from data…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:33 PM
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The crazy thing about this is that i was always clueless with women UNTIL i found all this shit on the internet and now i have countless options Y’all can cringe all you want, but the age of information is real. The internet is a powerful tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:20 PM
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Why even use the word “cheat” if you’re not talking about cheating? That’s just an open relationship at that point. Or polyamory, whatever you wanna call it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:09 PM
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I agree with you there too, and i didn’t mean to say that romantic relationships are a fix-all solution. In fact i’m actually not dating at the moment because i’m teying to get some other shit sorted out. i just don’t think it’s as simple for everybody as you’re making it sound. Just makes it seem like you have a hard time empathizing with people because you maybe don’t quite understand the nuances due to never having been in certain situations. Like you and i might both understand that relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:32 AM
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Friends and family don’t always help people because some people are abused by their family and science shows that people who were abused have a harder time making friends Not to be rude but i feel like the fact that you take friends and family for granted like that demonstrates how lucky you are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:18 AM
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i don’t sympathize with the desperation of to find a partner This probably has something to do with the fact that women don’t really have to do anything to find partners. Men don’t have that same luxury, men have to be fit, charismatic, intelligent, etc… the only exceptions would be if they got blessed with amazing genetics and have the face of a supermodel. Then you could be one of those convicted felons who gets love letters from women lol I’m guessing you’ve always had several guys at any giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:02 AM
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I actually agree that you should do it for yourself but doing it solely for the purpose of getting a date is better than not doing it at all. But what if you actually liked the guy and you only found out later that he only did self-improvement to get dates and not be lonely? Would you still think it’s creepy? And it’s still horrible advice to tell people to just “be themselves”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:47 AM
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It shows the number percentage next to each figure label Wait are u actually colorblind or just joking bc i was just pointing that out to be helpful :P
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:44 AM
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I just looked up the survey you were talking about because your comment piqued my curiosity. The one i found said 7.2% of men were unemployed and 11.9% of women were unemployed. Where are you getting this “half of commenters are unemployed”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:39 AM
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If someone is chubby, awkward, unconfident and lazy, they can work to become fit, confident, and driven. So yeah technically they’ll still be themselves, but that’s just being pedantic about semantics. The advice of “just be yourself” doesn’t encourage any sort of self-improvement or drive to be accomplish more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:53 PM
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Tbh i think most men want relationships for love and affection. A lack of sex would be a problem for most men, but that doesn’t mean that it’s the ONLY thing they want. Sort of like how most women would think it’s a dealbreaker if a guy lived with his mom, but that doesn’t mean that having his own place is the ONLY thing they want. Also, where i live, i don’t even think there ARE jobs paying minimum wage, they’re all paying almost double minimum wage. But besides that, in my city, two people mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:41 PM
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I wouldn’t consider it a “serious problem” if a woman were making minimum wage. So i guess we have different priorities. I also don’t only want a woman for sex, and i don’t believe that the vast majority of men only want women for sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:22 PM
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It’s nuanced and debated. I encourage you to learn about it and draw your own conclusions :) a lot of what they talk about is 100% backed by “verifiable” science. The issue with evo psych is that you can’t always reproduce tests in a lab to verify/falsify results . I mean what are you gonna do, recreate the entire evolutionary timeline? Lol Sort of like how universal gravity is only a “theory”, not a law Also, evolution itself is considered a “theory” as well, so 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:10 PM
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that happens to one species It’s not just ONE species, that’s the whole point. Mating preferences are common amongst many different species of animals and when you compare human mating preferences to those of other animals, they’re not extremely different. Females are the sexually selective gender for most animal species, and the markers that they use to choose their mates are pretty similar across most species You can learn more about this if you look into evolutionary psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:42 PM
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Who says BDSM can’t be a passionate expression of love? They don’t actively “categorize” it, you can’t really help what you’re into to. The entire human language is just a bunch if made-up words to describe things so that we can communicate with each other… don’t get mad at them for having kink-specific language, which by the way, they didn’t make up; most of the words already existed 😂 Just because you’re not into something doesn’t mean it can’t be great for people who are into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:15 PM
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The alternative is that you just end up being promiscuous yourself by having sex with people you barely know and put yourself in that same category. This is more about filtering out people who aren’t able to control their urges, those are probably the people in the data set who end up having unsatisfactory relationships anyways. Also, not being a hypocrite by expecting people not to be promiscuous with anybody else but suddenly they’re supposed to have sex with you on the first date, a lot of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:16 AM
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Funny because i was just reading an article a few minutes ago saying you shouldn’t keep the condom in your pocket for more than a short walk to the date. An afternoon in a pocket is plenty of time for it to become weakened or damaged idk why you’d wanna play that game Look in a perfect world condoms will always be on-hand, what i’m addressing is this idea that you need to ghost someone because they didn’t have one or that they don’t care about a possible pregnancy… this conversation is going dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:34 PM
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you’re giving your brother bad advice lol, you’re literally not supposed to do that. friction and body heat from being a pocket can weaken or damage the condom :P Also this condom thing has never been an issue for me because i don’t do casual sex. The only times i’ve had sex were situations where we knew we were gonna be having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:20 PM
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It’s a dumb thing to focus on when a condom is always a short drive away tbh. Just because a guy doesn’t carry condoms around doesn’t mean he doesn’t care. Besides, where do you suggest keeping the condom if all the experts advise against keeping them in your pocket or wallet? I view this as a good way to filter out women who get hung up on insignificant shit. If she gets so bothered by a short drive to a store, how would she react when a REAL issue arises in a REAL relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:05 PM
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so it’s all on her? They could just go together… people do this all the time without issue… it’s much better than storing it in your wallet or your pocket where it could be damaged All i’m saying is it doesn’t have to be the end of the world if you go to the store for condoms after you decided you’re both down for sex. Personally i don’t take condoms with me because sex isn’t my only goal and i don’t push for it on every date, so why would i take condoms on every date? I have condoms at home but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:37 PM
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My feelings aren’t hurt lol but btw thanks for the other comment because it seemed like you decided to stop insulting me and explain your perspective instead of being hostile towards me. I appreciate the shift in the tone :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:33 AM
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Lol i just realized how ironic it is that you were calling guys who don’t have a condom with them “thoughtless and oblivious” while also advocating that they should put the condom in their wallet. Wouldnt they be more oblivious if they were unaware that carrying condoms in their wallet can damage them? The irony 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:17 AM
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That’s fine dude, i was just trying to point out that if you like someone and they don’t have condoms with them at that exact moment, it doesn’t have to be the end of it. It seemed like you thought that if they don’t have condoms then there would never be any condoms and the only way to have sex would be to have unprotected sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:10 AM
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You already insulted me more than once, why would i read your novel that’s probably laced with more personal attacks? This is a very simple conversation, you don’t need 10 paragraphs. Most people are fine with just picking up the condoms lol. It’s actually not reasonable to expect guys to carry condoms everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 08:57 AM
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It’s such a weird thing to get hung up on, it’s actually LESS lazy to pick up fresh condoms when you need them than to store them in your wallet lol. A lot of people also keep condoms in their car but you’re also not supposed to do that because the temperature fluctuations can damage the condom. 5 minutes to pick up condoms. But you’d rather ghost someone who you actually liked instead of picking up the condoms together. Just seems so unreasonable but whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 08:51 AM
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Dude i’m not gonna read all that, all i was saying is that if a guy who you were wanting to have sex with doesn’t have condoms with him, y’all could easily just pick some up on the way back to his/your place. You don’t have to ghost someone who you were having a good time with just because they don’t have condoms with them at that exact moment. It’s so easy to pick up condoms, and it’s actually smarter than storing them in your wallet or pocket because that’s how condoms become weakened.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 08:44 AM
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Also did you see my edit about the condom companies advising against storing condoms in wallets?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:28 AM
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But you could just go to the convenience store lmao it’s not the end of the world, your life won’t be ruined by a 5 min trip to the convenience store 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:27 AM
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I’ve never once complained that women don’t want to fuck me because that’s actually not true lol, i have options and i even get approached and turn down sex sometimes because i don’t like casual sex It just seems so rigid to be like “nope, extra 5 minutes to drop by the convenience store for a box of condoms? SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREPARED, I’M NEVER TALKING TO YOU AGAIN” lolll By the way, condom companies advise against putting condoms in your wallet because it can cause breakages. The more you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:22 AM
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And plenty of people with shit personalities have frequent sex as long as they’re physically attractive It’s really not just personality if we’re being honest. And i say this as a guy who does get complimented on his appearance and gets approached by women. I 100% recognize that i don’t have the best personality but i can get away with it because i stay in shape and got lucky with my genetics Also i usually turn down sex because i don’t like casual sex and i’m not trying to date right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:34 AM
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Lol you expect him to carry condoms everywhere, as if you can’t just drop by a convenience store and pick them up? Or did you forget about that part?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:21 AM
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There’s a lot more to it than that though lol. It’s really good for health, it’s best not to prioritize aesthetics over health, but you do you 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:02 PM
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The lifting thing for me goes beyond just being muscular or aesthetic. I’m pretty slim myself, you might not guess that i lift just by looking at me. But i do it for health reasons. Lifting helps regulate hormones, it helps with bone density and joint health, which translates into less fragility as you age. There are also studies that find that it helps with mental aging as well. It can help to slow/prevent neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and dementia. Running helps with this sort of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:47 PM
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Wow u already forgot about the neglect you’ve subjected me to in this life?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:31 PM
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Already addressed this in the post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:06 PM
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Already addressed this in the post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:05 PM
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Im mad at u rn😢
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:04 PM
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Instead of saying that they “should be obvious”, you could try actually saying them and forming an assertion to contribute to the discussion Or you could just keep making vague comments that don’t add anything to the conversation I’m also not “ignoring” those correlations, this is actually the first time i’m seeing them to be honest. Thanks for linking that, interesting stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:42 AM
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I actually understand that it’s a correlation, but i understand why the language i’m using doesn’t indicate that. If you know that drinking a certain type of juice correlated with cancer but they didn’t know the exact cause of that correlation, would you drink that juice? I don’t think correlations are meaningless, especially when the data is from 30 years worth of studies and surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:19 AM
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They get their stastics from a secular, non politically-aligned source. It’s from General Social Surveys conducted by the University of Chicago over the course of almost 30 years I also think that marriage and long term relationships/family can be interchanged for the sake of this discussion but I guess you could argue that that’s a flawed position to take
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:37 AM
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I thought you were equating the whole mutual agreement to take time to get to know each other to rejection. I see what you meant now. Anyways, looking at statistics doesn’t make you autistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:30 AM
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The data indicates that men with higher n counts are less likely to have satisfying relationships. I linked it in the post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:19 AM
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You’re talking about “rejection”. Where are you getting that from? I’m not talking about having your sexual advances rejected, i’m talking about taking the time to get to know and vet someone before even making those advances in the first place. The alternative is you have early sex with someone, meaning they probably had early sex with past partners, meaning that they’re sexually impulsive, meaning they’re statistically less likely to be able to foster a successful relationship… Why are you get…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:00 AM
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I wish it were that simple. Unfortunately it doesn’t usually work like that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:28 PM
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Think about the probability though. If someone puts puts out right away for every single person, that’s called “sexual impulsivity”. If someone is sexually impulsive with you, they probably have been with other people too. It’s much more feasible for both parties to just be responsible with each other and get to know each other first It’s probably best not to hold out for the absolute best case scenario when it’s such a minuscule percentage. I think most people just don’t understand that concept…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:16 PM
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Lol i was waiting for the salty dudes to start calling me beta. But you seem to be missing the part where I also don’t want to deal with promiscuous women who want to fuck right away (i’ve known plenty of women who wanted to fuck right away). You’re looking at this through the lens of a guy who’s trying to have sex right away and being denied, that’s not where i’m coming from Let’s say she IS practicing dual mating strategy and she has her alpha fucks too. I have two options. Either i try to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:05 PM
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N is a term in math to describe a non-specified number I guess that’s where it comes from 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:36 PM
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Lol what did i miss? You said she can do the same vetting to me. That’s a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:34 PM
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It’s how many people you’ve had sex with Some people say “body count” but that sounds weird to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:33 PM
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I hope she does vet me! I encourage everybody to vet their dates
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:48 PM
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You’re right, it’s correlation not causation. However, decades worth of data analysis all pointing to the same correlation definitely raises an eyebrow And i don’t think it “destroys” something in you but it certainly paints a picture about their attitude towards sex and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:43 PM
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You can never vet with 100% certainty. But you can certainly do things that will raise the likelihood of getting stuck with a promiscuous woman. Besides she wouldn’t know that i feel this way about it right away, it’s not the type of thing you talk about on dates lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:38 PM
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I already acknowledged this but hey pop off about how it’s too complex for me 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:36 PM
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This is the point of the vetting process The study also indicates that men damage their ability to have satisfying relationships if they rack up a high n-count so sleeping with a woman early on just because she might be promiscuous doesn’t exactly help anything. So if you were right and it turns out that she is or was promiscuous, then all you managed to do was hurt your own chances by raising your own count by sleeping with someone also has a high count. If it doesn’t work out then it was a net…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:06 PM
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I didn’t mean to throw shade at anybody who does have sex with new partners early on, i was mostly addressing the seemingly contradictory ideas of not wanting to be with someone who doesn’t have sex with you right away but also not wanting to be with someone with a high n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:32 PM
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Yeah, secretive dual mating strategy is the main issue for my approach. But this is why i value taking the time to get to know each other and vetting. If she is the type to engage in that secretive dual mating thing and decides to make you wait, the problems will probably make themselves clear. Also, the alternative is that the guy ends up going for sex early on just to avoid possibly being the beta bux, but he’d end up hurting himself if it does turn out that she’s that type of woman, because h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:09 PM
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I also mentioned in my post that if a woman wants to fuck right away i view that as a red flag, and i believe other men should too. Also, i’m not talking about a one-sided approach where she’s making you wait and you’re just dying to have sex. I’m saying both sides should be ok with waiting and getting to know each other first. this is why vetting is important. If you do find out that she had been promiscuous with other guys, that’s a problem for sure. men always view this from the lens of “she’…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:52 PM
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I thought about this, and if you know or can reasonably infer that she has been promiscuous in the past but suddenly makes you wait, then yeah that’s a problem. But that’s not what I’m talking about, I’m talking about taking the time to get to know each other before deciding to have sex and not expecting sex immediately if you already know that sort of behavior can be problematic. Of course if you find out she’s holding out on you but not for other men then that’s a red flag in itself But thanks…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:38 PM
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It’s true that you can’t really know, that’s why I think it’s best to take the time to get to know them. There are ways to sort of gauge if someone has a promiscuous past, for example social media (especially instagram) habits, texting habits, overall demeanor, how she acts around other guys, even clothing habits. I don’t recommend outright asking because 1. it can make them feel judged even if they haven’t been promiscuous and 2. They can just lie. You can sort of judge it, but you’ll never kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:34 PM
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It’s about the respect and valuing your partner yeah? Look i just think there’s more to respecting your partner than putting canned food on the first shelf every time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:29 AM
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Well i just listed two examples so of course i know it’s not one thing lol. But yeah, leaving dirty dishes is a no-no for me too. That shit is nasty. I had roommates like that and I hate that shit. It attracts bugs, brings bacteria, fucking disgusting. But notice how she divorced him. This is the type of shit TRP talks about. Women initiating the divorces. I don’t think i’d marry someone who left dishes out, but i also don’t think i’d divorce someone for that alone either. The difference between…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:15 AM
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I don’t think everything that’s important to me needs to be important to my partner. If I use the same drawer for both my socks and my underwear, but my girlfriend insists on organizing them separately, is that REALLY something to break up over? If I just sort of throw all my food in the pantry wherever it fits, but my girlfriend insists on having the canned stuff on the first shelf, and the dry goods on the second shelf, is that REALLY something to break up over? A lot of women will spend hours…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:01 AM
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Yeah i’m a guy and i agree. I had some nasty ass male roommates in the past, but tbf i had some nasty ass female roommates as well. I also think in general, women are a bit picker about going beyond what’s necessary to maintain the house. Like a woman might spend a few hours reorganizing a room while her husband watches football. And from her perspective, she was doing housework and he refused to help or whatever. But there was really no need to reorganize the room, she just felt the need to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:39 AM
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I guess this comes down to interpretation of the term “pick me”. I’ve seen women call other women “pick me” girls simply for not caring bow much money her man makes, even if they both treated each other with respect
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:31 AM
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You’re proud of them for that? I’d be proud of my homegirl for finishing her degree or getting a promotion. But using your body and looks to leech off of the low hanging fruit that is lonely men’s desperation to interact with a woman? I wouldn’t be proud of anybody for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:30 AM
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We’re also not entitled to smoke weed based on current laws. Do you really want to base your morals on laws? Biologists agree that life starts at conception. But pop off about how babies are entitled to money but not entitled to be born lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:31 PM
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But it’s not entitled to life? Lmao. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:15 AM
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Do you value money more than life? And wby can’t the mother be the one to support and provide if she wants to have the baby but the man doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:14 AM
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So we can prevent a person from being born but not from getting finances? Sounds like backwards priorities lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:38 PM
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Literally every “rebuttal” you give me is just more reason why both parties should have the option to opt out. Yeah, contraception is not always reliable. So let people opt out Yeah, some men/women lie about whether or not they’re willing to go through with parenthood. So let both parties opt out. You’re also putting words in my mouth. I never said “all women would abort if they can’t or won’t….”. I also never said i oppose abortion, i just think it’s irresponsible. I’m literally advocating for …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:05 PM
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Condoms break though. The woman is the one with the most control over the pregnancy, which is why men should be given the opportunity for financial abortion. And when a woman accidentally gets pregnant, she isn’t forced to do anything except in some countries. PLUS, we all know how skewed family court is. Women are far more likely to be able to get exclusive parental rights. It’s extremely unlikely that a man will ever be in a situation where he has to put an unwanted child up for adoption becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:01 PM
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Condoms break though. The woman is the one with the most control over the pregnancy, which is why men should be given financial abortion. And when a woman accidentally gets pregnant, she isn’t forced to do anything except in some countries. PLUS, we all know how skewed family court is. Women are far more likely to be able to get exclusive parental rights. It’s extremely unlikely that a man will ever be in a situation where he has to put an unwanted child up for adoption because the mother will u…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:45 PM
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So in other words, you want men to have whatever they want whenever they want it, and women can bear all responsibilities all the time regardless, and the child’s interests don’t matter at all. Sounds totally great for men. False. women DON’T have to bear all the responsibilities. They can literally choose IUD, hormonal birth control, etc, plan b, abortion, or even adoption. But if they WANT the parental rights and responsibility, it’s there for them Even if the man wants to be a father, the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:13 PM
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Do you consider women who are unable to abort their unwanted pregnancies to be “losers”?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:10 PM
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That’s not the world i want, but in many states women are given sole custody even if the father did nothing wrong and sometimes courts don’t do the job that they’re supposed. And like i said, men who don’t want to be fathers are usually roped into some sort of obligation. I never said they shouldn’t have parental rights. I said both men and women should be allowed to choose whether or not to be involved in the child’s life. If they are biological parents, they should habe rights to the kid if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:42 PM
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The child should have support if the mother chooses to have it, they have their mother if that’s what she chooses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:50 PM
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Why can the man be held financially responsible for the child’s well-being against his will if the woman gets to choose whether or not she’s held responsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:49 PM
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Do women also have a moral obligation to avoid sex with non-husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:47 PM
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I never said it’s 100% the woman’s responsibility but at the end of the day she has more control over her body and her pregnancy. It’s just biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:25 PM
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Because if they want to have the baby but the mother doesn’t, they’re shit out of luck. If they don’t want to have the baby but the mother wants to, they can be legally roped into financial obligation. Almost zero reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:24 PM
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Ok, how should I edit my comment to make it more accurate? Does “almost zero reproductive rights” work better for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:22 PM
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It happens. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:07 PM
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how would a father lose full rights Idk, ask family courts that deny parental rights to non-criminal, non-violent, hardworking fathers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:06 PM
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Men have zero control over whether or not the baby is born. It is all the woman’s choice. If a man wants to be a father, he may be denied that opportunity. If he doesn’t want to be a father, he may get roped into it anyways, either by way of child support or moral obligation depending on his worldview. Some men refuse to let their child be fatherless even if he didn’t want to have the baby. To make things equal, men should be able to financially abort. That way women would be able to keep their …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:03 PM
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women can opt out of parenthood both by abortion and putting the baby up for adoption if she has sole custody. Men should be able to opt out by way of financial abortion and women should be able to opt out by way of abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:59 PM
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Yes, they could either be fined or have their governmental support checks cancelled. They could go to jail or custody of the child could be taken away, and i agree that’s not an ideal solution but i also don’t think that parents who would use their children as a source of free income would be the best parents anyways. Think about the lengths the parents would have to go to in order to prevent being caught. They could never get tax benefits from marriage, claiming dependents, or head-of-household…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:53 PM
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I agree that it should be shared but I also recognize the reality that men have zero almost zero reproductive rights and therefor should not have to be held responsible for an unwanted pregnancy. Just like i believe that women should not have to be held responsible for an unwanted pregnancy. They should both be able to opt out. Edited for accuracy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:33 PM
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I can not confirm or deny, y’all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:30 PM
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I do think it’s irresponsible when women get pregnant and abort the baby. I think it’s wrong. I’m pro-choice, but i hate seeing babies getting aborted. It doesn’t sit right with me knowing that a life is being snuffed out I have a lot of respect for women who go through with unplanned pregnancies, i think it really says a lot about their honor and strength of character. I probably sound corny right now but that’s how i feel about it. But the practical aspects are still there, such as the grim re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:29 PM
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I agree with you that it would be a new dilemma to regulate, but It would be fraud and both parents would be in a lot of trouble if they were caught. And it wouldn’t be difficult to catch them because they would have to demonstrate that they aren’t living together and they wouldn’t be able to name each other on any sort of tax forms or anything. But the woman would be the only one who would have control over the finances so the man wouldn’t have much incentive to collude like that and the woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:24 PM
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“To read this article in full, you will need to make a payment” So what methods did they use to determine this 1-2% figure? I’m guessing you actually read the article since you’re referencing it. 1-2% is a far cry from the 13% of women who admit to cheating. And i an aware that 21% of men admit to cheating as well, i’m just pointing out the discrepancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:19 PM
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This is a misandrist response because it pretends that men are always reckless or that they always stealth or have “soft harems”. What about situations where a woman told a man that she was on birth control? What if the condom breaks or slips off? Your response mentions how financial abortion would screw over women. But what about men who get screwed over by being roped into parenthood/financial obligation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:07 PM
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This answer is flawed because it assumes that the woman has zero control or accountability over whether or she gets pregnant or uses contraception. Sure, men would be able to go around having unprotected sex without worrying about pregnancy. But women would still be able to refuse sex without a condom, and she’d still be able to decide whether or not to use her own contraceptives such as IUD, plan B, hormonal birth control, etcetera. Plus, she’d still be able to have an abortion even if she did …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:00 PM
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Do you believe that the father should be able to opt out of parenthood and financial obligation if he doesn’t want to be a part of the child’s life? Personally i think it’s a cowardly and irresponsible move, but i still think he should be allowed to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:54 AM
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half the population raising the entirety of the next generation This wouldn’t be the result though. There would still be plenty of men who want to raise their kids. Currently 39% of U.S. children are fatherless, and I’m curious how many of those are children who are being kept away from a father who actually wants to be a part of their life but isn’t able to because he doesn’t have custody and doesn’t have any legal parental rights
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:51 AM
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only 1% to 2% of offspring are due to women’s successful dual mating strategy. That we know of. How many families are really going around getting genetically tested? I don’t ever remember being a part of that study and I highly doubt anybody I know was a part of a study like that. Can you link the study? I want to see the methods they used to determine this. Any family that isn’t “genetically analyzed” and found to be the result of strategic pluralism will be thrown into the “not strategic plura…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:28 AM
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The thing i wish more people would understand is that just because you have every reason to trust someone not to cheat, doesn’t mean they won’t do it. You realize that cheaters are often good at lying and manipulating? This is why there have been countless cases of people catching STDs from their cheating partner or raising a child that wasn’t theirs even though they never had a reason not to trust their partner. Their partner was simply so good at covering their tracks that there was never a “g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:18 AM
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I’m not saying they should be able to get abortions lmao. I’m saying they should be able to opt out of having to provide for the kid 😂😂😂 You really thought i was saying men should be able to get abortions? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:51 AM
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Why shouldn’t the mother be responsible for supporting the kid she made if she was the only parent who wanted to bring the pregnancy to full term? Why should the mother be able to terminate all parental duties but the father shouldn’t be able to? Double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:12 AM
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Wait so women aren’t expected to let the baby be born, but men are expected to provide for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:38 AM
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This is actually false. “Shitty” personality traits actually do tend to lend to higher rates of career success. Things such as psychopathy, disagreeableness, etc https://www.theladders.com/career-advice/this-study-explains-why-psychopaths-are-so-successful/amp https://www.believeandempower.com/the-disagreeable-personality-as-a-success-factor/ Depending on who conducts the research, it’s reported that up to 20% of business leaders are psychopaths. Compare that to 4.5% of the general population wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:22 PM
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It can, and it often does Think about situations where a financially unstable person is suddenly able to live in a nice house with nice food and a nice car and have extra money left over Sometimes they even have sex with people they’re more attracted to on the side, while reaping all those other benefits from the person they settled for. And then if a divorce happens, they get to keep half of the stuff and maybe even get alimony payments
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:11 PM
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That’s not at all what he’s talking about lol, he literally said exactly what he’s talking about. He specifically said that they have to have a conversation about this and that they verbally acknowledge the dynamic and agree to it. That’s not implied consent, that’s ACTUAL consent. Not only that, be he isn’t talking about “beating” women, he’s talking about consensual spankings. Y’all are just ignoring the words that he said. This is like if i tell you my car is blue and then you tell me that i’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:00 PM
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Please explain this idea that a person can consent to domestic violence. You mentioned it earlier in the other string of comments and i chose to stop responding because it didn’t make any sense to me. but now that you’re pinging me again, i’d like for you to elaborate on that. If a person consents to a spanking, how are they consenting to domestic abuse? What is the difference between a non-abusive, consensual spanking and “abuse that the someone agreed to”, as you mentioned earlier? How can you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:18 PM
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You might be watching too many movies, real life is a bit different. I don’t pay women money to be involved in my life and I don’t tolerate disrespect. I just like being spanked n shit, other than that my interactions w women are pretty normal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:48 AM
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I’m satisfied with the level of respect I receive from women. The main thing is kink compatibility and competence in daily life If a woman isn’t respecting you, it has more to do with your value in daily life than your kinks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:29 AM
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This is a flawed question because it assumes there are only two possibilities. Do you realize that in a BDSM relationship, consensual punishments aren’t always supposed to be “sexy games”? That doesn’t make it abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:20 AM
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The registry is a bad idea and it would violate medical confidentiality laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:52 AM
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Lol so you’re saying i can consent to my girlfriend spanking me and then accuse her of abuse when she spanks me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:48 AM
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How is it abuse if it’s consensual and not coerced? They literally agree to it all before any situation arises
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:17 AM
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I’ll quote one of the things he said: “the woman has to volunteer for this. The woman volunteers to this, it’s not coerced”. That’s a direct quote, i’m not paraphrasing. He also says, direct quote: “i want y’all to understand the spirit of this, because it can be really misinterpreted” He mentions that they have a word that they agreed to beforehand, and they have the consequence that they agree to, and if he says the word and a behavior continues, then they implement the consensual consequence …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:07 AM
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What if they can’t afford treatment? Then you want to breach their confidential medical records for the whole world to see? And what if one psychiatrist diagnoses them, but a second psychiatrist disagrees and says they don’t have it? You know that sort of thing actually happens right? Even if they could afford treatment, they shouldn’t be forced into it under the threat of breaching the confidentiality of their medical records. We can wait until they actually commit a crime to put them on a regi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:45 AM
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Not every person with borderline personality disorder does that. And not everybody who does that has BPD Like i said, i’d be more open to a registry of crimes that they actually commit. So once they falsely accuse someone of rape and then get convicted of the false accusation, THEN you put them on a registry. There is no reason to disclose someone’s mental health records when they’ve done nothing wrong. There are reasons why confidentiality laws for medical records exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:43 AM
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So wholesome :) i wish all disagreements on here were handled like this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:38 PM
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I would never support a public registry that publicizes an individual’s mental health diagnoses. I’d be more open to a registry of crimes that they actually commit, and of course that already exists with some crimes, but even that can be a slippery slope
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:37 PM
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Is it the one with the 4 guys including him and the 2 women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:54 PM
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He’s literally talking about consensual spankings. This is a BDSM thing. I’m a sexually submissive male and i’ve talked about my kinks in this subreddit before. I actually like being spanked and i had a girlfriend a while back who would sometimes spank me after arguments But he literally says that the woman has to agree to it and that it’s not coerced. They have a discussion beforehand about a word that will be used, an agreed upon consequence, if the word is used and she keeps going on, then th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:53 PM
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He literally says, and i quote, “the woman has to volunteer for this. The woman volunteers to this, it’s not coerced” So clearly there is a discussion beforehand, they agree on a word, they agree in a consequence, if that word is used and she keeps going, the agreed upon consequence is implemented. There’s a saying in BDSM, “safe, sane, consensual” and this is textbook consensual BDSM lol. He also says “i want y’all to understand the spirit of this, because it can be really misinterpreted” Looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:44 PM
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I didn’t see him mentioning actual fear in the clip that i saw but honestly after the way you misrepresented his take on the whole hitting thing, i’m skeptical of anything you say. You made it sound like he randomly hits women when that’s not true, you completely left out the prior conversation about consensual spankings, so how am i supposed to believe that you aren’t misrepresenting the “fear” aspect? Banana split does NOT equal “bitch ima hit you” from the way he described it, it equals “if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:34 PM
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Ok so i just looked it up and the way he describes it sounds like consensual BDSM to me. You phrased it to make it sound like he randomly hit her but they clearly had a conversation about spankings before implementing them into their relationship. i want to mention that i’m actually a sexually submissive male (BDSM) and i’ve talked about this in this subreddit before. Idk if you wanna scour my entire comment history but i’m just mentioning that so you don’t accuse me of making that up for the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:27 PM
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Yeah that still doesn’t answer the question but whatever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:37 AM
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Yea, looking at someone who may be a bit passive and deciding you’ll never respect them as a human seems… cruel and sadistic? Are those too extreme of adjectives lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:36 AM
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Yeah i know, you already said you don’t like them. i was asking WHY you hold so much disdain toward them. Like now you’re saying you don’t care that they exist, but earlier you said you can’t stand them and you can’t respect them as people. Those are two very different outlooks; indifference vs. disdain. You realize that there are actually a lot of really good people who just happen to be a bit more on the passive side? I’m talking, feed the homeless and open up animal rescue farm type people lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:27 AM
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I’m curious why you hold such disdain towards passive people? Care to explain? when I see people who are passive, my first thought isn’t “i can’t stand this person, i can’t respect them as a person”. My thought process is usually along the lines of “this person should learn to stand up for themselves, I hope they can figure it out”. And if they’re a friend or acquaintance, i’ll even point it out to them and encourage them to be more assertive. As long as they aren’t “snake in the grass” types wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:54 AM
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”I can’t stand men who are passive, like I literally cannot respect them as people” This is another huge societal double standard. If a man were to say “I can’t stand assertive women, like I literally cannot respect them as people” or the same about dominant women, or passive women, he’d be shamed like crazy But when women say that sort of thing about men, it’s perfectly fine. And yet despite this glaring double standard, society will still tell these men “just be yourself, the right one will co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:06 AM
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It’s not just semantics, it makes a big difference. “Obligated” is a very strong word. If someone doesn’t want the same things you want, then cool, go your own separate ways. The difference is guys have to live up to certain standards to have options, whereas women will always have options regardless. So if anything, men are closer to being “obligated” to anything. Even then we’re not “obligated”, it’s just that if we don’t live up to standards then we don’t get love or respect. Anyways, undead …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:10 PM
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It’s often brought up, but that’s because most women are ATTRACTED to more dominant men who can take the lead. TRP isn’t saying that women are obligated to cook and clean and follow men. It just recognizes that if a man doesn’t take a dominant role, then he’ll often be disregarded. It also recognizes that women who are dominant often have a harder time finding happy relationships. Men are still expected to adhere to traditional gender roles, but women aren’t. This often creates problems in relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:58 PM
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I can’t speak for a few bitter commenters. Again, I’d love to see some examples of TRP talking about women’s obligations towards men. I don’t really care a lot about women cooking and cleaning, in fact I’d love to be the one cooking meals. But hey pop off 🤷‍♂️ But yeah, examples please.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:18 PM
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Actually TRP tells men to accept female nature rather than to be salty about it. There is nothing about women’s obligations towards men. But I’d love to see some examples of that if you can find any. It also doesn’t all revolve around sex. And nobody says anything about who is allowed” to have sex with who. Y’all don’t really seem to be taking the time to hear what’s being said before providing your assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:55 PM
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It’s more time-efficient to sort out your personal life before dating than to try to date while your personal life is all out of whack. Your relationships will not be as successful when your personal life is all fucked up, and 50% of marriages end in divorce as it is. There’s no reason not to prioritize getting your life in order
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:29 AM
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The average man doesn’t have NEARLY as many options as the average woman and society isn’t honest about what men should be like in order to have options anyways. How is using a strategy a reason to think less of red pilled men? Just because they want to have options in their love life? Why is it fair to expect men to be ok with either no options or very few options while women have hundreds of options? That sounds a bit misandrist to be honest. Anyways, it’s not just about sex. Men have to navig…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:27 AM
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How is this “exhibit A”? His flair literally says that he’s Indian 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:04 AM
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Bu the logic, there would be no men who are both able to have sex and red pilled. But the truth is that there are plenty of red pilled men who have plenty of sex lol. TRP goes wayyy beyond just having sex. Obviously sex is a common theme, but that doesn’t mean that the only people who are red pilled are people who can’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:01 AM
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I’m only addressing the points that are relevant to the discussion. You’re asking my age, my race, accusing me of having selective memory, etc. These points add nothing to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:54 AM
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White, black and asian are not the only races that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:33 AM
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I genuinely never saw anybody use the term “mud sharks” nor have I ever seen the TRP community condone racism. Notice how you’re not willing or able to provide examples of this. In fact a lot of the red pill content creators I watch are black and they aren’t racist towards white women. Another thing I’d like to remind you of is that white and black are not the only races that exist. You seem very fixated on black people specifically for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:13 AM
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I’m 26 and I’ve been consuming RP content since I was 19. I’m asking for examples of TRP community expressing opposition towards interracial relationships. Are you going to provide me with that or are you going to ask me irrelevant questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:01 AM
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I think most people (both men and women) who are struggling with dating have several problems in their personal life that they haven’t addressed. These people are often putting the cart before the horse and trying to look to dating to make themselves feel better when in reality what they really need is to get their personal life sorted out first. Dating would be much smoother for them if they’d do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:20 PM
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I also don’t hear much opposition towards interracial relationships, can you provide me with some examples? More than one, and let it be an example that is actually supported by the community. I’m a POC and I promise you, I’ve never once felt that TRP was divided by race.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:10 PM
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When you say “bitching about women”, are you taking about the discussions about hypergamy or 70% of divorces being initiated by women? You can acknowledge facts that have been proven by science and statistics while still taking ownership of your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:09 PM
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One of the most popular pieces of advice in TRP is the idea that you have to take ownership and you can’t blame anybody for where you’re at in life regardless of what you’ve been through. If you’re overweight it’s your fault, if you’re poor it’s your fault, etc. https://youtu.be/Mow8pp4XyuI I’ve seen so many different famous manosphere guys saying this, it really goes to show how unfamiliar you really are with TRP if you’re saying that they “have the tools to stay in a victimized state”. That’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:06 PM
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard any significant amount of men clam to be oppressed by women or POC or lgbt+ people... Where are you getting this from? And you realize that there are men of color who are part of the lgbt community? So acting like men are separate from those groups just doesn’t make any sense. this whole post is completely baseless It’s so weird to me that you’d say TRP is the result of straight, white, cisgendered men when there are literally men of color who aren’t even straight w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:42 PM
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https://www.encyclopedia.com/humanities/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/love-and-marriage https://thriveglobal.com/stories/the-history-of-marriage-why-marrying-for-love-is-a-newer-idea-than-the-printing-press/amp/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/love-marriage-history_n_4774740/amp https://www.livescience.com/37777-history-of-marriage.html https://medium.com/@stevenmoretti/the-strange-history-of-marrying-for-love-28e48d5b4ae7 https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/history-romance https…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:36 AM
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The interesting thing about the cheating is that it’s a difference of 7%, (20% of men vs 13% of women) so i do consider that to be slightly statistically significant. The issue with that is that it doesn’t account for the large portion of marriages listing infidelity as a reason for divorce, especially given the differential between genders initiating the divorces. And i’m not trying to turn this into a man vs. woman string of comments, I’m just saying that it doesn’t seem to be the most signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 06:06 PM
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What’s even crazier is that marriage originally had nothing to do with romance. It just sort of morphed into that. i think that’s a large part of why it has become so bastardized
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:39 PM
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As a male, posts like that should be disregarded because they don’t usually add much to the discussion. The only caveat would be if they have some sort of statistic showing one group is at fault in the majority of divorces. With that being said, this article doesn’t seem to show who was the perpetrator in these affairs, abuse, who was the gold digger leaving due to financial reasons, etc. so this post doesn’t necessarily statistically confirm or exonerate any of those claims
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:36 PM
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Human interaction really can’t be compared to road networks. If we’re talking about dating, all you have to do is find someone you like and start dating them. There are no other drivers or intersections getting in the way. But if you ALLOW other dating options to complicate your dating life, then yeah, you’ve made it more difficult for you and everyone who has the misfortune of thinking you’re worth the effort. There’s a word for that; disloyal. Trying to apply Braess’s Paradox to dating just ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:25 AM
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Ok i had a feeling that these were the types of things you were talking about. i hate you break it to you but these are not exactly “intellectual” subjects There are plenty of reasons why people don’t talk about these things often, but the main reasons would be that most of us have had these conversations hundreds of times. It gets old The only ones that most people really enjoy talking about are music and sports, and I find it interesting that you throw those two into the same mix as philosophy…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:27 PM
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Can you give me an example of intellectual subject matter that the “average normie” is incapable of talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:42 AM
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Not necessarily. It could just be that you want to make sure you aren’t one of the guys who THINKS it’s his but turns out to be wrong. You do realize that there have been plenty of men who trusted their wives and believed that the child is theirs when it wasn’t? Women have the luxury of knowing for certain that the child is theirs. Why shouldn’t men have that same luxury?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:24 PM
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Yeah, the whole point of a contract is that if you break it there are repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:38 AM
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Yeah the 6’ thing is weird to me too, not because i think the preference is bad, but because i’m only 5’10 and height has never really been a problem for me. So it’s weird to me because it seems like people don’t really know what they want. When i hear everyone saying they want a 6’ man but then lil 5’10 me actually gets a fair bit of attention, it just doesn’t add up lol. I think some people care more about the IDEA of it than the practical application.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:30 PM
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Oh my bad when i cited average income i had clicked on average SALARY but of course not everybody is a salaried worker. So yes average income is around 50k when including wage workers But average male height is still 5’9, i think 5’7 is average height including women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:23 PM
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Because you were putting words in my mouth and then telling me that it didn’t matter if you put words in my mouth. I would have addressed your other points if it weren’t for that, but you’re typing really long comments with a lot to respond to. The long comments with a lot to respond to alone are not the issue. It’s just that if I feel like you’re going to misconstrue what I say and then tell me that it doesn’t matter if you’re misconstruing, then I will not want to engage in all those other poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:57 PM
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You’re not discussing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:28 PM
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Average in the USA is 5’9, chubby, earning 50k per year for a full time worker Obviously there’s way more that goes into a person than just those metrics but that paints a pretty decent picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:10 PM
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30% being negative pretty significant. Are you gonna pretend that it’s not? It’s better to be safe than sorry. Getting a paternity test is not the same as accusing someone of lying. You shouldn’t accuse them of lying until AFTER the teat comes back negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:21 AM
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I was not at all implying that. You should go off of what people are ACTUALLY SAYING, not what you think they MIGHT be implying It’s not a “biased” data set lmao. It’s just a statistic. Numbers aren’t biased. Do you genuinely believe that i thought 30% of mothers were committing paternity fraud?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:20 AM
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It's not the same as saying that if we tested everyone, 30% would be negative. I didn’t say it was…..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:28 AM
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It goes without saying that rape is horrible, it just doesn’t have anything to do with society expecting men to do more to support the family Pregnancy and childbirth are joint decisions. It may be risky for women, but it’s also risky for men given how skewed family courts are. Men can be fucked over in divorce court and then sent to jail for not being able to provide child support, even if they lose their job. up to 30% of paternity tests turn out negative Suffering from anorexia and bulimia ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:46 AM
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Can you link a source that says it’s 5%? I’m not saying you’re wrong, it’s just that i’ve seen claims as high as 10% but the people who say it’s 10% don’t have any sources to back it up. Also, it may be because gay men aren’t as hypergamous as straight women so it’s easier for gay men to get laid. But I’m not sure what’s causing that. Either way, we can’t expect people to go gay/bi lol so this is an irrelevant discussion anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:56 AM
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Ok well you can go conduct your own mass survey if you think you can get more accurate numbers than UCLA’s Williams Institute here’s their “about us” page if you’re curious about who they are Besides, 30+likes from men over 2 days vs. 5 likes from women over months seems pretty consistent with the red pill take on dating apps. Are you familiar with the concept that the top 20% of guys are getting almost all the action while the rest of the guys are basically stranded in the Sahara desert?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 05:42 PM
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only 3.8 percent of the population identify as gay or bisexual I’m actually bi myself. I’m just letting you know that your comment is pretty much bogus. I hope you were joking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:27 AM
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Even without expectations, it’s undeniable that catering to another person’s feelings is going to take more time and energy. In a situation where it’s not reciprocated, it’s just not a good feeling. And couple that extra effort with wanting romance or sex, yeah, not a fun situation if you’re not receiving that same sort of compassion in return. Wanting something from someone is pretty normal. In fact often times THEY wanted something from ME. Trying to be super kind and protect the feelings of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:03 AM
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Or to the top, depending on who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:23 PM
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Otherwise it turns into a cycle of everyone being miserable I disagree because i’ve actually become LESS miserable since i changed my approach. Being kind and considerate does not mean that people will be that way towards me, it just guarantees that i’m putting more effort in and less of that effort goes towards my own needs and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:23 PM
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I’ve done it on accident because i liked what the other person had to offer and everything looked good on paper, but for some reason it just didn’t click. Or they started coming on too strong and i really wanted to embrace it but i just couldn’t Also, as I become more and more jaded, i become less and less concerned about hurting peoples’ feelings because my feelings are usually disregarded so it’s like whatever. I don’t TRY to hurt anyone’s feelings, it’s just that i don’t see why i should both…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:13 PM
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Most SEX problems yeah, but there’s way more that goes into dating than just looks. A lot of people have boring personalities, bad communication skills, selfish priorities, etc. and those sorts of issues will not be fixed by just improving looks and putting yourself out there It also depends on what your dating goals are I guess. You’ll have way more “success” if you only date casually since there are fewer goals to be met
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:56 PM
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I just don’t view the diagnosis as a dealbreaker on it’s own. It’s only a problem to me if she uses it as an excuse to treat people badly or not take care of herself. So if she has good coping skills and handles it well, and she’s pleasant to be around and we’re attracted to each other, then i’d be down to date and see where it goes. I don’t expect anybody to be perfect, in fact I’m quite flawed myself and that’s why I’m not currently dating, i need to fix some things in my life before i get bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:37 AM
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Oh ok my bad i thought you were trying to argue about that because of ”TRP complaints are mainly about casual sex” All I was saying in my original comment is that it would be more difficult to find REAL partner in a club than it would be to find a CASUAL partner in a club
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 12:17 AM
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There are statistics that show that casual sex, promiscuity, and high n-count has a negative impact on people https://www.nicswell.co.uk/health-news/casual-sex-linked-to-depression-and-anxiety https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness. (Sources in this blog article are from peer reviewed, university studies and census bureau statistics) https://www.recoveryplace.com/blog/promiscuity-linked-to-drug-addiction/ Let me know if you’d like more sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:38 PM
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It depends on what you’re looking for. How long do you think that short man and the 6’3 woman will be together? If you’re just looking for something casual, yeah they’re great. But a lot of people aren’t into that vibe. The fact that they’re down to twerk on just about anybody is actually an ISSUE for a lot of people Some people don’t want to be with someone who twerks on strangers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:17 PM
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Fuck that, if she’s gonna deny my own personal preference while also saying dumb shit in her d e b a t e, then I have no obligation to engage I don’t give a fuck if you think I’m clever. I haven’t even tried to be clever, nor will i try with people like y ‘ a l l
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:08 PM
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with all due respect, I highly doubt it When i do answer your questions, you tell me that you doubt i’m telling the truth. Don’t try to shift the blame to me. People won’t want to have these conversations with you when you imply that you don’t think they’re being honest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 08:39 AM
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So now you’re telling me you “highly doubt” what i’m telling you about myself? Why are you wasting both our time with these long ass responses if you’re just gonna deny everything I say?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 08:08 AM
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Well according to a few sources that i just googled, women’s chances of miscarriage by age 30 are up to 20% but don’t get me wrong I know it’s still very viable to have children in their thirties. It just seems clear from most sources that 20-24 is when a woman has the lowest chance of miscarriage With men on the other hand, fertility will have usually only dipped by 5% by the time he’s 35-39. It is interesting to think about whether the age preference is social or biological but the simple fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:37 AM
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I mean you’re already assuming that i want my women to be feminine and agreeable? What if i were to tell you that i have a wide range of preferences and that I like when women are assertive (not combative/argumentative/aggressive, just assertive) and that I have a soft spot for tomboyish types? But that i also like feminine women? I really don’t mind going into more detail, it’s just annoying how many people on this subreddit start making assumptions and assume an argumentative/complainy tone in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:31 PM
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Lol ok so first you respond with a single word “women” and then when i prompt you to give a more articulated response you decide to put words in my mouth and make false assumptions about what I think a woman should be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 04:46 PM
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I agree, it’s just sad to see, and i don’t mean that in a condescending tone like “oh wow what a sad woman” i mean genuinely, it’s sad to see someone conceptualize realistic dating standards when it’s too late. I empathize with women who find themselves in this position. Especially since a much of the narrative pushed on young women is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 04:20 PM
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According to surveys what the opposite gender is attracted to, men’s peak sexual attractiveness is in the late twenties to mid thirties (depending on which source you look at) while women’s peak sexual attractiveness is in the early twenties. This has a lot to do with biological and social markers such as fertility and social status; women’s peak fertility is in the early twenties so it makes sense that men will have a biological tendency to find them attractive at that age. Men are fertile thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 04:15 PM
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“Time will do that in its own” The issue there is that if they have unrealistic standards while they’re young and pretty, they may not grow into realistic standards until they’re older and less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:37 PM
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You also have to look at divorce rates and non-marital relationship success rates to realize that most of those couples will not be together for very long. Your point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 09:07 AM
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Suicide is not comparable to divorce. When you kill yourself, that’s it, you’re dead and your whole life is over When a woman divorces a man, family court swoops in and provides her with alimony and child support. Men are routinely fucked over in custody decisions. Even when there aren’t kids, men are often required to pay alimony to the woman for no reason other than to upkeep her lifestyle. This is why men point to these divorce statistics so often. It would be much easier to believe your asse…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:53 AM
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Well your answer to my question makes sense but it contradicts your previous statement because you went from saying that most men don’t have trouble dating to saying that they have trouble because of their decisions. You mentioned choosing a woman with sinilar education level. But another interesting point is that while marriages with college educated women are slightly less likely to end in divorce, when they DO divorce, it’s actually 90% likely that it was initiated by the woman as opposed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:28 AM
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Also, the 80/20 thing isn’t made up. It’s originally from a data analysis on OkCupid that found that 20% of male profiles were receiving 80% of the matches with women. But it has become something else as people have realized that most women don’t really want average men. This discrepancy exists outside of online dating apps too. They might settle, but like I said odds of long term success are pretty low. There are statistics to back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:05 AM
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If most men don’t have trouble dating then how is it that 85+% of relationships fail? How is it that 50% of marriages end in divorce and 70% of those divorces are initiated by women? Not only that, but most guys i know who have “success” in dating are with chubby, borderline ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:01 AM
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50% of marriages end in divorce. 70% of those divorces are initiated by women. That’s not a small minority Even if we assume that marriages that remain intact have frequent sex (which is a huge assumption), that still leaves a lot of fathers who are no longer having sex with the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:04 AM
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The statistic you linked is irrelevant. You truly don’t believe that there are fathers who are stuck in sexless marriages or straight up got left by the mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:54 PM
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See, the entire scenario you just made up is inaccurate. That’s exactly what i’m talking about. Why would you assume that 50% of them only have 1 sexual partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:46 PM
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Claiming that the ratio would be 50/50 operates under the assumption that each person only has one sexual partner. The distribution is not that even. Just because a man manages to have a couple of kids by the time he’s 40 years old does not mean he had a lot of sex throughout his lifetime. Meanwhile, there are dudes who get vasectomies and have sex with hundreds of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:32 PM
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That’s not even what the 80/20 rule tries to say. You seem to be forgetting the fact that a lot of these men are paying child support to women who left them. You’re also assuming that these men aren’t being cheated on, or that they’re even having regular sex with the mother. Like sure they had kids, but that doesn’t mean they’re in a happy relationship. I know for a fact that my mom was sexually repulsed by my father. And I know that’s just a single anecdote but I also know that there are countl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:10 PM
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Lol this is such a weird statistic. Besides, fathers are ROUTINELY fucked over in family court, how does this debunk anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:45 PM
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I didn’t say that, and i definitely don’t believe that either If you’re not happy with that person, then you shouldn’t be loyal to them I think it only starts to get shitty when someone has the mentality of “i really like this person, they treat me well and i’m actually happy with them. But i want to leave them because i think i can do better” The title of this post mentions leaving a GOOD partner for a BETTER one, so that implies that the relationship is already happy and functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:25 AM
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Because society accepting this kind of behavior leaves the insividuals within that society open to a higher probability of being fucked over. Consider theft. If everyone is ok with theft, it’s far more likely that you’ll be willing to steal and it’s far more likely that you’ll have something stolen from you. If society is ok with disloyal behavior, it’s more likely that you’ll be willing to act without loyalty, and it’s more likely that you’ll have a disloyal partner. But ultimately society’s op…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 03:58 AM
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I addressed the obesity. I said as long as they’re taking care of themselves, i don’t care how fit they are. Obese people don’t take care of themselves I addressed the income. I addressed the looks. I mean honestly why would you date someone you’re not attracted to? I don’t think women are exactly rushing to date ugly guys any more than men are rushing to date ugly women. They’re not rushing to date obese guys But we all know how they feel about their higher-earning men. Yeah, i did address this…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:50 PM
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I already addressed these points but of course you can’t be bothered to actually read the comment You’re also pretending to quote me, but then inserting things that i didn’t actually say into your quotation marks. That’s not how quotes work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:01 PM
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https://youtu.be/ll3qPZsCh6w See this is the type of shit they do when they aren’t talking about gender dynamics. And keep in mind they come from a family with like no money
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:35 AM
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Lol the Tate brothers are super entertaining and smarter than they seem when you first start listening to them. I definitely don’t agree with everything they say but i highly recommend you check them out. They have a lot of intelligent points to make as well as a lot of just entertaining content
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:59 AM
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Yeah some don’t acknowledge it, but the most successful ones that have the largest audience definitely do. Rollo, fresh n fit, Tate brothers, etc. Even guys who aren’t exactly RP acknowledge this, like Jordan Peterson and some of his colleagues who are into evolutionary psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:42 AM
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True true. I agree with everything you’re saying. I think we’re on the same page about this. The only thing is that TRP actually does mention all this, which you said they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:38 AM
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So how does that tie in to all the birth-controlled women who aren’t looking to have kids anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:36 AM
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I mean feel free to continue, it just adds zero value to the discussion. So have fun with that. All you’re doing is willingly demonstrating that your opinions have less value than the opinions of those who can provide peer-reviewed studies and statistics from census bureaus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:44 AM
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Well it wouldn’t matter if they don’t feel used, the issue is that a lot of people DO end up feeling used.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:40 AM
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most of the tome, i feel women are pretty forthcoming about wanting something casual Not in my experience. This is anecdotal and speculative so if there’s no data to back up the claim you probably shouldn’t make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:39 AM
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Idk but i’m male and i don’t think men love unconditionally. I just think men tend to love with fewer conditions I don’t care about a woman’s level of college education i can be happy dating a woman who is taller OR shorter than me I don’t care if she’s not as fit as me, as long as she takes care of herself I don’t care how socially connected she is I don’t care how much money she makes Most women want a man who is willing and able to protect her. Men don’t need or want that from a woman. I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:36 AM
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it’s relevant when you’re single because that’s when you’re deciding who you want to commit to, and you obviously want to be with someone who improves your life instead of someone who dampens it. It’s also relevant because statistics show that women prefer to date up and that they’re more likely to be unhappy when they don’t do that. Besides, if you think it’s irrelevant, why are you having this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:47 PM
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I agree that it’s irrelevant once you’re actually committed to someone. So basically you just engaged in an irrelevant conversation with me Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:33 PM
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Nobody says you do horribly, i used that example in comparison to tall, athletic, handsome, six-figure men. A tall, athletic, handsome, 6 figure man is higher SMV than a short, chubby, average face, broke woman. Even if he decides to wife her up, he’s still higher SMV. That’s all i was saying. I wasn’t saying you don’t have options lol. I was just saying this category of male has more, higher-quality options than you do. In fact if you look at my post history, you’ll see me acknowledge that thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:50 PM
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That’s how you know you’re with the right person, no comparisons or whatever For the sake of this particular discussion though, we’d have to look at it objectively. Otherwise it’s not worth having the conversation. I’m also curious about how you went from saying you have plenty of options to suddenly saying that if you’re in a committed relationship, the options don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:36 PM
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I’m actually happy that you found someone you like! I’m just saying, you’re probably dating up. Unless he’s out of shape. Then you might be dating even I also agree that people who are always trying to date up suck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:26 PM
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Right but your options aren’t all tall, athletic, handsome, 6-figure earning men. It’s safe to say that a man in this category is probably higher value than you. It’s ok, he’s probably higher value than me too. Even if you do have them available, they probably have more options than you because a man in that category is probably less than 5% of the male population and men in that range have an INSANE number of options. I personally wouldn’t want to be with a short chubby woman because i have tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:09 PM
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This is too much rationalization for my poor soul
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:03 PM
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If I sell my workout equipment for cheap because i want to make a deal quickly, it doesn’t change the market value for the workout equipment. The value of the equipment isn’t equal to the price i charged for it, it’s equal to what most people are willing to buy it for. Likewise, I could also overprice something and still manage to make a sale. It doesn’t change the fact that it was overpriced and could have been purchased for less
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 12:09 PM
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Just because an 8 dates or fucks a 5, doesn’t mean that the 5 is suddenly an 8. If I’m a broke, jobless male who lives at home and I manage to have sex with a woman who works as an engineer, i’m still a broke, jobless male who lives with his mom. If a tall, handsome, athletic, 6-figure earning male wifes up a short, average-faced, chubby, broke woman, he still has far more options than she does. He could leave and find a more attractive partner, whereas the short, chubby woman would probably str…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:44 AM
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You’re confusing the statistics. Are they less likely to be divorced? Yes. That doesn’t change the fact that when there is a divorce, it’s still 90% likely that the college-educated woman is the one initiating it. I never said anything about whether or not college educated women are more likely to get divorced, so there is no contradiction. I only mentioned the likelihood of a divorce in relation to a woman earning more than her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:37 AM
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I’m not a fan of speculating on the details of potential anecdotes. If it can’t be quantified by actual statistics and peer-reviewed, it’s a pointless discussion. There are thousands of marriages that are looked at here, obviously the individual circumstances will vary immeasurably.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:31 AM
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The hypergamy aspect has been verified by several different studies. higher earning women are more likely to be unhappy in their marriages or to initiate divorce 70% of divorces are initiated by women, but the number jumps up to 90% if she’s college educated As for OP’s whole schpiel about why women vote for certain politicians? That seems unsubstantiated so as far as i’m concerned this post is invalid. Unless someone can provide a source. The hypergamy aspect is well understood by researchers a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:24 AM
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Right but i want my kid to be biologically ours. Either way, a gay or bi guy will never have the kinds of options that an average woman has, unless he’s like top 10% at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:59 PM
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Hmu when men gain the ability to bear children lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:42 PM
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I’m sorry, i’ve had this conversation way too many times, i’m gonna check out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:00 PM
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I disagree that their options for romantic relationships are on par with mens. When you can go on a dating app and gets hundreds of matches, it’s impossible to say that you have the same amount of options as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:47 PM
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I think you and i are mostly on the same page. One night stands are not a woman thing but it’s much easier for women to get them. A short, broke, socially awkward, kinda chubby, average faced woman can get sex any day of the week. A guy with those features isn’t so lucky This leads to situations where a guy can be like an 8/10 and he could still struggle to keep a woman’s attention even if she’s a 5/10 simply because she has so many options. This is what guys have to accept and understand. And i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:52 PM
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Flirting with someone you’re attracted to is fun and healthy. The fact that it’s so nonchalant to you is a clear indicator of your privilege on this. And i’m not saying “privilege” in a bad way, i’m privileged myself in many ways too. But women have all the privilege in sex and romance. Again, it’s not a bad thing, i’m just pointing it out because that’s where this all stems from. because maybe the guy she really liked called her later. That’s the whole point of this post. Women have so many opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:49 PM
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If the choice is unappealing, why spend an evening flirting and exchange numbers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:41 PM
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at this point i’m not sure what you’re trying to argue to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:39 PM
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I think he meant that the repeated one night stands can become problematic especially when there is ambiguity around the intentions. I don’t think he was focussing on the attraction aspect. I also want to clarify that i don’t think one night stands are inherently bad, they can just be unfulfilling for some people and make other people feel played or toyed with if there isn’t communication
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:38 PM
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I didn’t necessarily say she did anything wrong. I edited my comment because it was unclear. You could argue that toying with people is wrong but i’m not here for that. The whole point of this post is that women have access to so much sex/romance that they’ll lose interest even in the guys that they actually like. I never said there was anything wrong about that, please don’t put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:29 PM
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The privilege is the whole point. She has access to OP. She has access to her background guys. She could have hundreds of matches on tinder by tomorrow. If you don’t see how this is privilege then idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:24 PM
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This woman was attracted to him enough to flirt and exchange numbers. But yeah she probably had a guy in the background. So she has privilege. How is it relevant to OP? Because he was the guy she was toying with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:22 PM
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Access to sex and romance any day of the week to the point where it’s really that easy to be attracted to someone and then simply forget about them. This is all so normal to you. You even said it in your comment; “she probably has some other dude in the background”. There’s ALWAYS another dude in the background; that’s the privilege part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:19 PM
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Obviously they don’t OWE anybody anything It’s more so the fact that people are CHOOSING to hop from one casual hookup to the next. People are simply noticing how common it’s becoming for people to be attracted to each other and still only use each other for casual sex. The dating market and marriage was already in a sad state, it’s only getting worse tbh. There have never been more single and depressed people in recorded history.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:13 PM
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Even outside of his example, he’s still right. Privilege is invisible to those who have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:09 PM
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Nah i just know that most of the women in my friend group are having sex regularly or have had points in the past where they were having sex regularly. They talk about it openly. You don’t have to actually see the sex to know that someone is having sex regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:38 PM
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Ok I’m just having a hard tome understanding why you even said the word in the first place honestly. If two people wanna have casual sex, it’s not predatory. They’re not being affected by “rape culture” if they both consent to casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:33 AM
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If you call someone a rapist for making a bad approach, then how is anybody supposed to believe you when you say it’s happened to you multiple times? Rape has a definition, don’t call someone a rapist creep when they haven’t committed rape. That’s fucking ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:14 AM
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P.s. 3 minutes after you typed this comment, i had an older woman reply “it’s extremely difficult for older women” in this same thread. So if i’m delusional, so is she.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:12 PM
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Some men seek novelty for the thill. So i’m still not seeing how you answered my question. Tbh the people who are tryna fuck are tryna fuck, man or woman, it’s all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:09 PM
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Hm this doesn’t really seem to answer my question. What makes you say that casual sex isn’t validating to women? Do you think older women who can’t get laid feel as validated as they did when they were younger and had hundreds of options? If women don’t want casual sex, why is it so extremely common to see women having casual sex (in fact probably more common than it is to see guys having casual sex)? Partially because it’s more available to women, but beyond that, why would it become a repeated…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 08:37 PM
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Because it’s NOT true. “Oh you’re such a great guy, i hope i can find someone like you” but not actually you “Oh i loved everything about him, he was so sweet and so caring but idk i just don’t feel the spark” These are things that genuinely good guys are used to hearing. Sexy =/= good It’s misandrist because some women are really trying to convince people that none of the 200 guys they matched with on tinder are good. “There are no good guys!”. And the worst part is that some actually believe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 08:10 PM
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I definitely think jealousy and some other subconscious factors come into play, i just don’t think it’s as specific as this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:32 PM
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women may have more options than men but these options aren’t necessarily all good options This is the typical misandrist response. Are all women good options? Of course not. And of course all men won’t be good options. Most guys are good guys, they just simply aren’t sexyyyyy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:18 PM
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The main flaw with your logic is that it assumes people are actually AWARE of the vasopressin response and how it affects bonding. I’d argue that most people don’t know about this so this probably isn’t the real reason why those people hate porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:16 PM
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but many are not seeking out sex the same way men are seeking out sex What are some of the differences in the ways men seek out sex vs how women seek out sex? Sidenote: let’s not throw around the word “rapist” all willy nilly like that please. It really detracts from people who have actually experienced that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:57 PM
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It’s not necessarily self-loathing to answer this in the negative, it could be seen as self-aware for a lot of people. A lot of people think they’re a catch when they’re really not. But then a lot of people know that they have some serious work to do on themselves before they’re ready for a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:26 PM
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No it literally doesn’t cross my mind lmao. Do you sit there thinking about how straight you are all day? “Oh by the way! I’m straight! I just thought you should know in case you happen to be bigoted against straight people!”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:12 AM
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I’m open and honest about it with everyone. I even talk about it without being asked, when it comes up. But it doesn’t come up. It’s not a secret. But a bigot WOULD assume I’m a liar because i’m bi. Lets look at all the prejudiced statements you’ve made about bisexual people. Bisexual people get depressed if they don’t have sex with people other than their sifnificant other Bisexual people love to stare at everyone! Bisexual people lose attraction to their partners for no reason other than their…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 07:11 PM
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I CAN lie and nobody WOULD ever know.. Key words: “CAN” and “WOULD”. These words insinuate hypotheticals. I find it interesting how you’re so efficient at dissecting the exact words of a sentence to point out when i misspoke, but then when i DON’T misspeak, and type out my sentence perfectly fine, suddenly your reading comprehension goes out the window. It almost seems like you’re intentionally misinterpreting what I’m saying. Or maybe you just really don’t know what a hypothetical is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:36 AM
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Where did i advocate lying? The fuck? And I’m the one gaslighting now? Bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:49 AM
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Ok well i MEANT to say that the stereotypes are myths as far as the fact that everyone seems to think they’re common when they realy aren’t. Btw, all the stuff you mentioned isn’t unique to bisexual people. They’re called “lying” or “wanting to cheat”. Straight people do that shit too. The fuck am i gaslighting you about? My own experience as a bisexual person? Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:41 AM
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I said it’s a myth that ALL or even MOST bi people experience those things. So many bigots like to pretend that bi people just loove to go around fucking everything, like we couldn’t possibly be in a relationship without NEEDING to have sex with other men/women. You’re talking about those things as if they’re prominent enough to have some massive effect on a bisexual person’s partner, yet clearly they’re not prominent enough for ME to have experienced them. Or any other bi people that i’ve ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:24 AM
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Did you look at any of the sources that the page cited? The actual data is from several different sources, and this includes data that is used by the US government as well as data that is obtained by the US government. Some of these sources are backed by universities. Idk what to tell you man, data is data. Doesn’t matter if the people presenting the data are christian or not. If you can find me any data that would disprove what I’ve already said, i’d gladly look at it. I’m not here trying to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:32 AM
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Oh i guess i was completely wrong when i assumed that billions of people having access to the entire global dating market in the palm of their hand was a something that happened AFTER the turn of the century. So what were the smartphone dating apps like in the 90s?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:35 AM
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There are studies that have found that people who have had fewer previous sexual partners have healthier long term relationships. https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness Experience is important, but you don’t need to go through 6 people just to learn how to be in a relationship. Plenty of people make it work on their first try. I think someone who has to go through failed relationships just to learn how to be in a relationship is someone who should be avoided. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:44 AM
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We have both a global economic issue AND cultural issues. If you don’t think we have cultural issues, you have your head in the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:55 PM
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He had enough of their shit 😤😤
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:44 PM
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Never said other bi people don’t experience those things. Just pointing out how common it is for bigots to assume every (or even most) bisexual person is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:30 PM
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It “started” in the 90s, but the dating market back then was not the same as it is now. That’s my main point. The other user pointed out that women’s sexual emancipation happened 60 years ago so we shouldn’t act like it’s new. And i’m pointing out that the current dating market is a relatively new thing. It has never been easier to connect to the global dating market, and the global dating market has never had more participants either. And if you didn’t know anybody without a home computer in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:27 PM
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No it’s not part if the philosophy, it’s just a type of relationship that some rp guys advocate if your goal is simply to sleep with a lot of a women. But the thing is, not all RP guys only want fuckbuddies, many want a long term, monogamous relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:09 PM
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These are things that some rp people live by, but not all. A lot of rp guys don’t care if a woman is successful, they just don’t want her to be domineering at home the same way she might be at work. Many rp guys want kids or long term relationships. They don’t all want to pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:32 AM
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Yeah but lets be real, it wasn’t popular until way after the 90s. A lot of people didn’t even have home computers or dating apps at all until the 2000s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:27 AM
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Yeah but it has really only recently come into full effect with the creation of tinder and instagram n shit. Online dating and social media have created a global dating market and it’s really THAT easy to make yourself known within that dating market, especially for women. This global dating market is what has really created the situation we’re in, where dating apps have data that shows that most women are only pursuing/sharing the top 20% of men and average men aren’t getting any love. Meanwhil…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:19 PM
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It has literally never come up in any of my relationships. It has never been a secret, it just doesn’t come up. And no, my mental health does NOT take a toll from not exercising my bisexuality. That’s an urban myth about bi people. everything from men wanting the relationship opened up so they could fulfill their desire to sleep with whatever sex they’re not in a relationship with That has literally never happened to me, when I’m in a relationship i don’t want to have sex with other people. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:44 PM
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Nah the thing is i can lie about being bi and nobody would ever know, it wouldn’t even really affect me if i were to never do anything bi again. That’s how I know it doesn’t really matter, regardless of whether or not i ever do anything bi again, i can still live a full sexual/romantic life without doing anything bi ever again. Plus, my partner would never have to do anything bi to be able to meet my needs, and i’d never have ti do anything bi to fulfill hers… But if i was gay then that would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:09 PM
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It’s crazy to me that you’d be so affected by something that has nothing to do with you that you’d throw away a relationship like that but maybe i’m just biased because i’m bi. Like the thing is you call it gross but you’ve had sex with more guys than i have so wouldn’t that then mean that you’re gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:23 PM
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That explanation doesn’t really make sense though because if I’m bi, it has nothing to do with what my partner does. My partner can choose not to do anything involving my bisexuality but that wouldn’t conflict with being with me. It’s not like being with me automatically means they have to do bisexual stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:20 PM
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I’m curious what you mean by “not attracted to bisexual men”. Like what if you were attracted to the guy (both his looks and his personality) and then you found out he was bi several months into the relationship? Would you then lose attraction for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:04 AM
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I knew a couple like that. They got divorced lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:02 PM
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Yeah I’m bi so i was just wondering because in my mind my bisexuality has nothing to do with the woman I’m dating. i only date women, I’m not really romantic with guys i just find some attractive and would have sex with some if i were single. It’s just hard to wrap my mind around how many women say they wouldn’t date me just for that even if they thought i was attractive and had a nice personality. Or when they say they don’t know how they feel about it. People don’t even realize I’m bi unless i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:00 PM
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I’m curious why someone being bi would be a deterrent for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:27 PM
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Ok so how do you act then? Normally I’d love to answer your question and have this discussion but you seem more keen on nitpicking insignificant words that I use and focussing on those instead of the actual substance of what I’m saying. Like you literally described sociopathic behavior in your post, but then you start telling me that you never used the word “sociopath”. You don’t have to use the specific word when you literally just described sociopathic behavior. Why are you nitpicking the fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:20 PM
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It’s so weird how you disregard my entire comment and focus in on that one tiny point - that you didn’t actually use the word sociopath… despite the fact that the behavior you’re describing that you expect from RP men is sociopathic. I’m saying that you’re making a bunch of assumptions and broad generalizations about what certain people want or how they act. And to be honest, your assumptions are way off
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:38 AM
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What makes you think cheating would be more likely? That’s probably not the case for most guys, most guys (including red pill guys) would probably rather just leave than deal with the drama and secrecy that comes from cheating I also don’t think it’s accurate to say that sex is one of the few values that TRP men put above all there. It’s more fair to say that sex is one of the most important values for PEOPLE IN GENERAL lol. Like red pill or blue pill, most people think sex is pretty important i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:02 AM
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Yeah probably, because I only date with the intent of trying to find someone to start a family with. I’m not a swinger and I don’t enjoy casual dating. If they say no to marriage after 5 years, I’ll cut my losses because I wouldn’t want to wait around for a possibility that might never come
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:02 PM
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The math isn’t that simple. You’re forgetting the fact that some people have more than one sexual partner, meanwhile some people have zero sexual partners. Some people cheat, meanwhile some people are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:30 AM
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You simply don’t know what it’s like to date as a man. “I’ve always been able to find someone” That’s exactly my point. If you’ve always had someone available, you have a lot of options. But you don’t even see it like that because you’re so used to it that it doesn’t seem like a lot to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:15 PM
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Take two versions of the same man, same face, same physique, same personality, same everything. Only difference being one is a virgin and the other has sex with a lot of women. Most women will choose the guy who has a lot of sex. Women are the ones who decide that this is a “high value” trait. Women could choose to go for virgin men, but they almost always go for the guy who they know has a lot of options. But ultimately, It’s just biology/evolutionary psychology. Women are attracted to what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:07 AM
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If men want sex more, then why are women having more sex than men? I knew you were going to say “humans aren’t keys or locks”. But either way, the analogy stands, and it explains why everybody (including women) recognizes men who have a lot of sex as higher value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:58 PM
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The reason for this is that average face, broke, chubby, short, socially awkward women can usually get laid pretty easily Average face, broke, chubby, short, socially awkward men won’t get laid very often. Men have to WORK to get laid a lot, unless they’re super lucky genetically. For a man to get frequent sex, there’s usually a lot of effort going to social skills, nutrition, lifting weights, etc. for a woman to get frequent sex, usually simply existing is all it takes. Women have an attitude o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:42 PM
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Yeah I feel you, that’s part of why I don’t do it personally
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:23 PM
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The touching this is a matter of preference. I would never touch a stranger and I don’t really like being touched by strangers, but I’ve seen it work on both men and women lol. I’ve seen it a lot actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:15 AM
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It’s not internal to FDS, it’s talking about a common preference that people take to REAL LIFE dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:59 AM
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Don’t think about it too much honestly. You didn’t shame, just chalk it up to 1) everybody having their own preferences and 2) that subreddit being full of extraordinarily toxic human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:58 AM
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When you say “average”, are you just going off of looks, or personality as well? Hot guys who have a lot of options will USUALLY not go for an average woman with an average personality. Sometimes they do, sure, we’ve all seen it. But if he really has a lot of options, odds are he will want a woman who is above average in personality or looks, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:37 PM
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Care to elaborate? I’m curious what you think the differences are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:39 AM
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Yeah I forgot to mention in my original comment that there really is no exact formula for “alpha”. I was just using some common traits of alpha males when I was listing things that make an alpha male distinct from those who aren’t alpha, but there are outliers for sure. Some guys will have all of those traits yet not be alpha, and some guys will be lacking in many of those traits and still be alpha. Even with those exceptions, there are still many specific traits that will affect your social sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:43 PM
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There’s way more that makes a man “high value” than the 4 things you listed, and a lot of them are intangible but ultimately the market is what decides who is high value and who isn’t. If a guy is desired by many women, he’s high value. If he is desired by no women, he isn’t high value. The more desired a man is, the higher value he is. There are a lot of factors that go into this though, and I also think there are different types of “high value” men. I actually agree that the validity of the te…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:29 AM
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Most women really can’t tell. i’m also 5’10 and I’ve literally had women tell me “there’s no way, you look way taller. You must be at least 6 ft” And these weren’t exactly short women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:21 AM
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I don’t consider myself to be a “red piller” but I do think that they receive a lot of undeserved hate because of a vocal minority within that group. Sometimes this vocal minority isn’t even “hateful” or “misogynistic” but they are perceived that way because they’re hyper masculine and they say things bluntly (sometimes too bluntly) The reason I’m saying this is that I want you to be prepared for some shitty takes by some red pillers, and i encourage you to not write off the whole thing just bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:24 PM
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This comment is interesting to me because on the one hand you say you lurk TRP so that you can make sure you don’t act like those guys. But at the same time, you say you’ve been out of the dating market in order to stack cash and pursue your interests, which is what TRP calls “monk mode”; the state of refraining from dating while you develop skills and put yourself in a better position in life. In reality, you’re doing what TRP recommends that a lot of young men do when they aren’t ready to star…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:33 PM
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Sounds about right to me. Also, vetting isn’t 100% fool-proof because people can lie and put on facades. And I really like the point you made about an individual’s desirability affecting their pool of potential partners. That’s something that a lot of people won’t admit to themselves. A lot of people set their expectations so high when in reality they don’t bring anything to the table themselves. And sometimes these people pass up opportunities with decent partners because they’re so dead set on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:45 PM
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You’re right that it doesn’t describe every women, but statistically speaking women are surpassing men in education. Anyways, i agree that some of these manosphere guys take it way too far. There is some truth to the mgtow and redpill stuff but they don’t need to be taken to the extremes that some of these angry dudes take them to. Im the kind if person who really just wants to find the truth and reasons why things happen because i want to understand the world and people in general. Im not tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:50 AM
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Alright this whole covnersation is way off topic. All i was saying is that women tend to prefer guys who make more or who are better educated than them, and that part of the reason why marriage rates are dropping is that women are becoming more and more successful so it’s harder for them to find those kinds of guys to settle down with. Everything else that’s being said here is just noise
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:10 AM
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It does not contradict. If he works out more then he is fitter and more active. It can be objectively measured. But not everybody thinks that fitter automatically means more attractive. Like me for example, i know some women who aren’t as fit as me but that doesn’t mean they aren’t still very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:50 PM
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Honestly I didn’t get the sense that he was making it a competition or that he was calling himself hotter. You created that narrative yourself. All he said was that he was fitter and more active…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:32 PM
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Well that means you’re different than most women in a way that i find somewhat admirable I also want to point something out; you seem to have made a lot of assumptions about me; eg you think that I’m an “average” guy who makes an average living or whatever… and you seem to be using that as an insult The point I was making is that women don’t want “average” men, even “average” women don’t want average men; and this is one of the reasons why marriage rates are dropping. it also ties jnto what the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:09 PM
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Anyways, thanks for proving my point and i appreciate our conversation because it reinforces what I already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:44 PM
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Your husband is one guy Just because someone doesn’t go to college doesn’t mean they’re a “stick in the mud”. You’re literally proving my point; women place such value on stuff like that, that they’ll call someone who hasn’t been through college a “stick in the mud” I never hear men saying shit like that A man who makes 100k will probably be ok with a woman who makes 35k if she’s attractive and is a good person. The fact that you can’t fathom how someone who makes 35k a year could be in a social…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:25 PM
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“Suitable” meaning what the woman considers to be suitable. X height, earns x amount of money, has x amount of education. Many women don’t find men shorter than them to be suitable. many women don’t find men who earn less than them to be suitable. Many women don’t find men with a lower education than them to be suitable. This has been found in several studies Men don’t care about height, income, or education to the same extent. I never said anything about nice guys. In fact I don’t believe that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:02 PM
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Studies have actually found that the more successful a woman is (financially and through her education), the less likely she is to get married because many women don’t want to marry someone who earns less than them or has a lower level of education than them. Single men nowadays don’t live up to single women’s expectations. here’s a source This is one of the reasons why people aren’t getting married/having kids as often. Ever heard that whole “where are all the good men at?” What they’re really …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:19 PM
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why would a woman choose to stay in a marriage like that First, that stuff doesn’t apply to every marriage Second, maybe you should ask all the women who are upset that they can’t find a suitable man to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:51 PM
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That’s depressing though because it’s like, this guy could be responding as soon as he gets the chance but he’s actually busy and you’re willing to intentionally wait just to “get back” at him lol. But the depressing part is I don’t even really blame you. That’s how jaded everyone is, automatically assuming the worst and “playing back” is practically the norm for both genders. Very sad. And I agree that working out should be the norm but unfortunately it simply isn’t. so many people grow up bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 05:05 PM
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So how do you decide when to “play back”? Like if a guy takes a long time to answer your messages, do you purposely wait longer too? Even if you don’t know whether or not he was actually busy? And let’s say a guy discovers the red pill and decides to start getting into shape. What exactly would “playing back” look like in that scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:40 PM
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