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Storyfundude1/r/MensRights05/04/15 03:49 AM
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Discussionfundude1/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:25 AM
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Question for BluePillfundude1/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 05:23 PM
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Guy one looks lean but not that big Guy two (brother) is clearly on roids and has the bloated T look. Guy three is likely on roids due to bloated T look. Hard to tell from one picture but I suspect 2 and 3 are on roids. Guy 1 might be taking some amphetamine type substances but doesn't appear to have much mass. Trust me, you know shit about who roids and not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 03:30 PM
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cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 03:28 PM
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they haven't married and they are about the break up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 10:24 PM
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Study all of civilized society besides the post 1970s feminist Western world and you will see the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:24 PM
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Cool then why do old hags have to tell younger women to avoid older men? Younger women should NATURALLY do that considering they are unattractive right? Why all the effort among old hags to try to shame younger women to avoid older men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:15 PM
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Correct, they are using shaming tactics to control male sexuality that doesn't benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:15 PM
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Thats correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:14 PM
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Who are you to say the proper age? Do you also tell others to date the proper sex? Or proper body composition? Or proper genetics? Why only demand an arbitrary metric such as age should not be allowed to date with big differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:13 PM
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So then she won't need to be convinced by an old hag to avoid them right? The 20 y/o will reject the 35 y/o without the need for an old woman to tell her if she finds him unattractive. So there should be no problem for old women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:12 PM
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If you had the intelligence to understand the concept I was arriving at, you would understand when they CONTROLLED for the female age, they gave an arbitrary metric towards the female contribution towards the miscarriage rate. Ergo, the "statistic" is mostly biased based upon statistical manipulation rather than any evidence. I have read the study in detail before. They only controlled for "older women" using an arbitrary metric to attempt to minimize the female part of the equation, which is im…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:11 PM
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everyone woman online looks "young"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:44 PM
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Plenty of younger women are banged out by drug addict younger men, younger men that are physically abusive, younger men that have no job prospects, etc. Why is the 20 y/o female who gets banged out by the 20 y/o drug deal fine but damnit its not acceptable that the 35 y/o physician wants to date her? Feminism bullshit 101
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:44 PM
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Thats how you know its all fraud with these women. They are just pissed that the 40 y/o successful physician is dating the 24 y/o slim nanny compared to the 40 year old post wall "professional woman". They will often claim this is "pedophilia" or some other nonsense despite the fact that she's in her 20s. If the same 24 year old was getting gang banged by some 24 y/o drug addict, she wouldn't be concerned about it being "abnormal" sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:41 PM
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women are passive to feminists until they are in their 20s dating guys that are >33. You have to remember, feminists are selective in their outrage and change it to whatever they find beneficial to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:39 PM
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He's a perfect prospect in that he is usually the taller, better looking and more financially successful male in that age cohort. Therefore, she gets upset when he decides to date 13 years younger because he CAN
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:38 PM
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Thats really whats its about. The rest are bullshit rationalizations by old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:34 PM
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Correct. The way you know these old hags don't really care about "normal sexuality" in terms of avoiding older men is that they are cool with their daughters getting gang banged by the football team (she can sleep with anyone she wants!), being lesbians, getting into 3 ways, banging the drug addict that is 21, etc. Its cool if some 21 year old drug addict that is "cool" bangs out their 20 year old daughter but GOD FORBID its a 32 y/o successful businessman/doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:33 PM
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he's banging her out though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:20 PM
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Who is to define what the "right age is" as long as its above the age of consent? Two adults should be able to determine it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:19 PM
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Yeah but even that statistic is misleading due to being derived from statistical manipulation rather than actually doing a study to compare younger vs older fathers with women in their 20s. The study had both older men with older women on average having children. They attempted to "control" for female age using statistical manipulation to arrive at that "27%" number. No actual study has been done comparing healthy men in their 40s + 50s having children with healthy women in their 20s vs healthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:19 PM
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Correct, its an older female mating strategy to prevent older men that are successful from dating younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:15 PM
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Not super hot chick is looking at an "average" joe at ANY age
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:09 PM
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It was very "normal" behavior for men in their 30s to date teenage women throughout the history of civilization. How do you define "normal" sexual behavior these days? There are lesbians, bisexual, transgendered, rampant hook up culture, etc. Yet the only abnormal behavior you see sexually are "older men" going with younger women huh? That is why I can't take this feminist clap trap seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:56 PM
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What about sons, fathers, brothers that get equally bad behavior from some angry fat feminist women? Why do you think they should have to put up with that shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:52 PM
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That sounds like a rationalization of the reality. Surely, if older men make young women feel "uncomfortable", these younger women can just ignore/turn down the older men. Why do they need old women to yap at them to avoid older men? Something isnt adding up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:51 PM
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Why does that turn you off? Men in their 30s often exclusively date women in their 20s if they are successful. Thats normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:48 PM
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Yeah I agree, these women are too much. They keep saying that "older men aren't attractive to younger women" yet keep emphasizing how they will have to strongly tell their younger daughters to avoid these older men. If older men are so inherently unattractive, shouldn't those younger women just realize it without much education from old women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:48 PM
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You sound jealous that these dudes might get younger women. If they are truly that repulsive, this doesn't need to be taught with great vigor since it would be readily apparent right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:45 PM
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There is no "high risk". Abnormalities go from .000001% to .00001% for "older men". Its post 30s women that are the real absolute risk issue for abnormalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:44 PM
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Funny, must not have met my gf's friend who is a truck driver at age 47 with kids that is dating a 26 year old single female who isn't overweight and above average in attractiveness. He is tall, good shape but doesn't have much money. How did he do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:43 PM
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There aren't that many high paid, successful 35 year old men who are single without children. So I don't agree that a "slightly above average" female at 25 is some kind of big catch for these men. But cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:42 PM
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My gf's friend is a late 40s man dating a woman in her 20s while he' a truck driver. He also has kids from another relationship. He is in pretty good shape and tall with a tough guy vibe but thats about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:36 PM
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nah I think im done with that shit but it was a very interesting analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:22 PM
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Didn't know Ellie Goulding and Jennifer Love are high N count sluts Taylor Swift is a high N count slut too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:20 PM
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yeah, she's red pilled as shit too I speak EXACTLY about these sluts the way I do in my statements online to her
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:19 PM
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its scripted but it does show the men don't like high N count women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 05:02 AM
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but I was told by TBP that it didn't turn off men that were "secure". hmm something isn't accurate huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 05:01 AM
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but the premise of the show is NONEXCLUSIVE until the end. Ergo, your analogy is illogical
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 05:00 AM
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yeah but whats wrong with that? I thought women fucking many different men was fine right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:38 AM
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actually it fits pretty nicely
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:31 AM
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and its not just "human nature" for males to not inherently like women with high N counts? Interesting how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:26 AM
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actually it is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:25 AM
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but they weren't dating which was very clear as the PREMISE of the show that there would NOT be any monogamy until the end of the show
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:15 AM
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no you just don't like it when I give POPULAR examples in REAL LIFE that contradicts your theoretical argument about men not minding high N count women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:14 AM
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they weren't technically exclusively dating as per the show
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:00 AM
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well why can't she just get banged out by many men? I thought high N count didn't matter!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:59 AM
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Now you're changing goal posts. TBP women have been going off incessantly about how "most successful good looking men" supposedly don't care about "high N count" and are "secure" in it. Yet here is a perfect example of a show that purposely finds good looking men that supposedly are secure that don't seem quite pleased about the high N count females
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:58 AM
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So fucking a bunch of guys recently doesn't change your N count higher?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:57 AM
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sleeping with more than one guy at a time and being high N count are mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:56 AM
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why not? don't men like women who sleep around? whats his problem with high N count women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:56 AM
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Which ones do guys like outside of just wanting to bang?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:46 AM
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He went on a show where she was dating MANY different men at the same time with NO PRETENSE of monogamy. Ergo, unless he was turned off by a high N count woman, he had no reason to feel "betrayed" since the PREMISE of the show is there is no exclusive relationship until the END
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:44 AM
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But why should they care? According to TBP, good looking "secure" guys don't care about N counts. These guys must all be exceptions too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:43 AM
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There was no discussion about how wild the sex was. Seemed like these good looking males were just turned off by the fact that she was getting banged out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:42 AM
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Why not though? Men don't mind women with high N counts if they are "secure" right? TBP taught me that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:42 AM
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yeah exactly but ALL the men feel that way. Watch the Kaitlin episode as well where she slept around and the men got pissed by her being a slut. According to TBP, good looking successful men are too "secure" to care about women being high N count sluts right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:37 AM
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pretty good evidence of dudes not liking slutty women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:37 AM
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but she has the right to get banged out by a truckload of men right? I mean "secure" men don't care about these things unless they are in a monogamous relationship or something right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:36 AM
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yeah so? She wasn't committed to anyone at that point. Why should it matter if she got banged out then? She wasn't technically cheating so why should he care if she's a slut or not right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:36 AM
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someone watches it. Shit has been on tv forever and many women seem to love the show
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:32 AM
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they only became engaged AFTER the show ended and andy picked him so it wasn't "cheating" because up until that point, they weren't officially monogamous
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:31 AM
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dunno seems like the dudes on here are pretty honest about not liking high N count women despite it not giving them any benefit to admit that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:31 AM
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she wasn't married or even in a steady relationship with him What do you consider from Kaitlin as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:25 AM
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Saw it with my gf tonight and got to thinking about this shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:24 AM
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Plenty of women, its all over ABC
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:24 AM
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I added another one named bachelorette "Kaitlin" where the same idea is presented by the men. Hmm wonder why. These guys are pretty clear they don't like high N count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:23 AM
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He was pissed if she slept with ANY dude on the show according to her book Doesn't this show a very prominent example of a man that isn't so called "insecure" being against high N count women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:09 AM
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very unlikely to the point that occam's razor still applies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:05 AM
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yup. One of many reasons the dude is on roids. I looked him up. Dude looks like a typical roider I see at my local gym all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 01:51 AM
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https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/406942516311467649/ Im pretty confident that dude is on roids. He has the roid look plus is all tatted up in a class roid fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 01:50 AM
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2 is the best, then 3, then 1. 2 is the ideal female
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 01:27 AM
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yeah thats what I've been saying. It could be photoshopped to make him look bigger. Its hard to tell these types of pics in isolation. Need to see this fucker on the beach or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 01:24 AM
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Hard to tell but I doubt he is only 5'6" and 160lbs or so like many of those former "bodybuilders" that were LEAN as hell before steroids. That is the PEAK you can attain naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:27 AM
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Further "early" bodybuilders before there were steroids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtH2Odwh5Pg
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:24 AM
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Here are the Mr Universe contestants from the past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VCdnLTHSi8 The dude in pic 1 is significantly larger and leaner than TOP bodybuilders of the past. Diet and heavy weights haven't really changed much. A few bullshit protein shakes doesn't change much. Hmm wonder what the difference is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:21 AM
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Read this article and then get back to me. This guy even tries to argue that its possible that the absolute FFMI limit isn't accurate but makes a pretty weak case over 26 or so. http://rippedbody.com/maximum-muscular-potential/ Clearly, his FFMI is too high lacking roids. Also, in the comment section of the article, steroids were already being introduced by the late 1930s, so even these FFMI measurements could be too high naturally. P.S. I do recognize the "photoshop" effect does possibly play a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:12 AM
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get the fuck out of here with that bullshit his FMI is far above natural limits with low body fat percentages that normally decrease test levels Granted, the picture could be photoshopped to make him look bigger than he is, so thats the only questionable part.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 09:27 PM
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cant tell these days lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 06:03 PM
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I always find it amusing when women can tell "what men like". Its almost like they are telling me they BETTER Like it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 01:17 PM
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I think most are sluts but I wouldn't immediately assume all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:14 PM
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sound bp mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:13 PM
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yes you can but i thought TBP didn't "generalize" women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:02 PM
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respective lawyers made it due to pressure to compromise implicit in the court system
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:01 PM
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it was modified after the fact to her advantage. So it was partially tossed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:00 PM
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thanks I try. When someone says all actresses/models are basically high N count sluts, I have to question their motivation behind such a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:59 PM
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She got some higher than agreed upon child support payments then even by state regulated rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:58 PM
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Sounds like you might be jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:53 PM
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See thats the fraud in this "question". Judges will always find an EXCUSE as to why the female doesn't have "adequate representation" even when she has a lawyer. They also can argue they were "blackmailed" or "forced" to sign a prenup by the male, which will often obtain sympathy. Here is another case of a female who claims she was "forced" to sign a prenup by her BILLIONAIRE husband despite her being highly educated with lawyer representation. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamer…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:46 PM
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All models and actresses are high N count sluts? Kind've judgement of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:41 PM
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Yes they would except for the fact that most people don't gauge themselves properly and are usually shoot far above their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:14 PM
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plenty of them are whining. Maybe you should watch Ellen Degenerate or Oprah to see how the low SMV overweight women whine about "good men" not being interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:13 PM
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Feminist women are constantly whining about there being "no good men" after they hit the wall. Maybe you should worry about them and letting them know about they aren't entitled to men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 06:55 PM
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Yeah no crap But the converse of that is post wall >28 year old women shouldn't EXPECT her beta bucks to come running. Its not men's fault, societies fault, its that OBESE post wall hag who has low SMV fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 06:26 PM
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you're a guy? can't keep this crap straight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:22 PM
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Feminist using of shaming tactics huh due to the unpleasant truth TRP is dropping. I thought you ladies figured out that doesn't work anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 04:57 PM
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im sure you pressured him into marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 04:00 PM
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I notice how the women basically say that "TRP has no legitimate claims" and basically has to be crushed without allowing for opposition to the gynocratic society we have created. Ergo, there will be no debate or ability to compromise with feminists on this issue and the "debate" will continue forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:27 PM
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No one wants "experienced" women for marriage. Not worth it. All studies show high N women are more disloyal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:18 PM
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Dont forget Jimi the Hobo Disabled dude that got a winfall from the state. Wife takes him back to court to "up" child support for mid teens kids by THOUSANDS A MONTH. Guess those expenses increased alot huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm8NMrYP0iw
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 12:33 PM
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never was angry brah, definitely not now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 12:16 PM
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yeah dont marry
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:38 AM
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good point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:38 AM
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are you trying to pretend this isn't the norm in child support and divorce settlement cases? Come on!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:37 AM
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except the situation jimi describes is the NORM for child support and divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:33 AM
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What is "tradition" in 2016 anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:15 PM
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yes they are and we encourage successful men to avoid it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:14 PM
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so true very few women "sacrifice" anything by giving up their job. They mostly WANT TO GIVE IT UP due to being a housewife/mother is a much easier "job" than having to earn a large salary. If they can find a meal ticket to latch onto, why wouldn't they give up their job? The man is on the hook to pay for everything then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:04 PM
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Im worried about marriage for people like me. HIGH EARNING males who obtain minimal benefit in marriage and all risk. The alimony figures for low earning males aren't a concern for me. If you are low earning male, then you have far less to lose in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:58 PM
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Except child support is often well in excess of the child's needs. If the husband earns a large salary, she can get a very inflated child support payment with ZERO accountability in terms of how that money is spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:43 PM
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Self reported information about housework from women is less than useless. So the only thing that can be accurately determined are percentages of alimony payments, asset splits, who earns more income on average, child custody, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:41 PM
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Love, tradition, etc don't exist since feminism. They did away with "tradition". How does the man get financial or emotional security? She can unilaterally divorce him at any time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:27 PM
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because the woman pushes him into marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:26 PM
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How can he be sure the female with "career potential" will continue to work after having kids? He can't force her by gunpoint to continue working but will remain financially responsible to her if she quits. Also the concept of "equitable" for prenup is nebulous and can be unilaterally overturned by the judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:25 PM
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Also, I dont take any studies using "self reported" data on "housework" by women to be serious scholarship or credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:36 PM
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Is that 38% women with children or just in general? I suspect that number changes significantly after women have children, especially f she has a male that earns a good living. It doesn't just "happen" that the woman "sacrifices". Often, the female decides to cut back unilaterally after having a child and/or convinces the male its going to be "short term" but it never is. What can the male do if he is stuck into marriage at that point? She can unilaterally cut back and he has no choice but to ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:36 PM
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50/50 splitting is very unfair for the male, especially if he brought in the vast majority of the income/assets. This is exacerbated by her obtaining primary custody of the children with child support, alimony for her "sacrifice", keeping the home, etc. Ergo, its not really "50/50" because she gets alimony, inflated child support, etc with her lawyer bills subsidized as well. So she likely gets 65:35 and keeps the kids to boot! Damn, now it makes sense why women initiate the vast majority of div…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:32 PM
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Women initiate the vast majority of divorces, so clearly concern for the "children" doesn't weigh much for the good majority of married women considering >50% of them divorce. Also, this "sacrificing of the career" isn't clearly wanted by the male considering he is financially on the hook for this "sacrifice" when divorced. Ergo, the only benefit of marriage is for women financially and that is why they are the ones who push for marriage mostly. Its not about the children or men mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:30 PM
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But how do you know men want these women to "sacrifice" their "careers" for them? Who cares if its "heading in that direction", its NOT THERE and probably never will be there. Maybe the men would like the women to earn 50% of the income but the women decided to stop working after having children? Nah couldn't be. Also those "studies" about housework you quoted are SELF REPORTED by the WOMEN! Unlike working in the real world, "housework" hours are very nebulously calculated. Is a female who puts …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:18 PM
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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/young-men-giving-up-on-marriage-women-arent-women-anymore Interesting article quoting pew that men are more than ever trying to avoid marriage. Guess they didn't get the memo on how good it is for them considering the wonderful sacrifices women make for them!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:13 PM
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Funny, I thought it was because there weren't enough "good men" for them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:07 PM
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I am unsure either way but I still enjoyed debating the subject and easily winning
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:07 PM
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You just contradicted yourself there lol So you are admitting women mostly make less than men and would get a larger share of the assets upon divorce than they could earn on their own. Now its starting to make sense. Also, most studies show that men work more OVERALL when it comes to adding full time work plus housework compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:06 PM
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but the question remains, why marry then for the female? She seems to be a work horse and also has to pay 50% of the income right? Whats in it for her? Maybe she should go on a marriage strike but yet she seems to "sacrifice" so much for the man without even getting to "divorce rape him" right? Don't get it. Are women just these altruistic creatures that love to be abused by men in marriage? Also, why aren't men demanding women marry them earlier in droves then? Surely they must understand all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:04 PM
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my penis kind've doesn't believe so, let me check.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:02 PM
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you mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:02 PM
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Basically you wrote a long screed about how women are basically being screwed in marriage by doing all the housework, cooking, cleaning and bring in half the income right? So I don't get it then. If its so bad for them, why are they the ones pushing men into marriage? Most men would be happy to just be friends with benefits without having to marry. Then the female wouldn't have to pick up for the male, do his laundry, etc. Wouldn't she benefit from avoiding marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:01 PM
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I don't get it though. How do women bring in half the income if "Additionally, women continue to sacrifice more in their careers than men for the sake of the family: One result is that while 42% of mothers with some work experience reported in 2013 that they had reduced their work hours in order to care for a child or other family member at some point in their career, only 28% of fathers said the same. Similarly, 39% of mothers said they had taken a significant amount of time off from work in or…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:58 PM
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nah I just don't think marriage is worth anything for the male, especially if she feels like a "slave" while taking his money lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:42 PM
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nah its the beta bucks and post wall female whining
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:42 PM
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trying to wake up my beta bucks bros and also determine through debate the validity of my argument. So far, my argument has been bullet proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:41 PM
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nah its more about the finances brah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 06:12 PM
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Just doesn't sound like a guy from the way you write and has nothing to do with TRP. Also, the excessive macho sounding name while being hardcore feminist/BP appears quite strange to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:59 PM
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yeah but why would men want to marry them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:50 PM
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lol come on but nice screen name
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:50 PM
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You can't be a guy lol Be honest with your screen name chica. Getting annoyed by women trying to use "male" sounding screen names to attempt to "fool" some TRP dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:34 PM
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most women work less than their male counterparts and bring in less income overall
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:20 PM
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Actions speak louder than words No matter the "hamstering" about changing sexual "urges" that amazingly occurs when she is close to the wall, doesn't give me much enthusiasm in terms of security in their narrative about how things happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:20 PM
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Women want marriage because of mostly gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:05 PM
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100% accurate assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:05 PM
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None of that is proven in marriage for men. Most women are a emotional negative when the male has financial problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:52 PM
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Its a new question brah. Didn't ask this before about comparisons of leftovers to other cultures. Just a logical extension of previous post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:52 PM
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The proof is that there are less married people than ever and lower marriage rate in recorded history of the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:42 PM
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But most men find women below 25 to be the most "high value" sexually. Does becoming a stable beta bucks obtain sex from that age group of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:40 PM
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actually they are mostly hiding it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:38 PM
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Who cares what the female benefits from? The question is what does the man get from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:34 PM
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Everything is hugely correlated with divorce these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:33 PM
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No point in asking most of the time for men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:32 PM
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Then why are all the liberal/feminist magazines constantly writing these articles? Clearly it must appeal to someone. Google it yourself, very many of these articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:32 PM
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Plenty of ways to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:20 PM
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BB shouldn't marry
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:13 PM
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Dunno maybe because of all these types of articles from 30s college educated women complaining? http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/07/why-college-educated-women-can-t-find-love.html https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/nov/10/dating-gap-hook-up-culture-female-graduates https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/youre-single-because-there-arent-enough-men-253 Clearly from these liberal websites, there are a dearth of men obtaining "marriageable" qualities that women want from beta buc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:13 PM
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Not many, they usually attempt to find it out other ways since they know the female will likely lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:10 PM
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Money talks, bullshit walks brah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:36 PM
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The question is would a WOMAN do that for a random male including a veteran. Or would she just call the police? So why should the reverse be the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:16 PM
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The intent of the OP was to show that women EXPECT with some unwritten chivalrous "code of conduct" that random men should help random women if they are in "danger", even if it comes to great personal risk to the random male. The reverse is never the case. If a random female sees a random male being attacked/robbed/injured, she isn't under any pressure to do anything besides call the cops AT BEST. Thats the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:15 PM
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Which countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:13 PM
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Its a gendered issue in so much that women EXPECT random men to "help them" in a dangerous situation while no such obligation/expectation is noted the other way around. How often do random women intervene when a random man is attacked/robbed/injured in real life? If the random female calls the cops, you would be lucky as a random man. Yet when the opposite happens, there is some kind of chivalrous societal obligation placed upon men to "help" the random woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:13 PM
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See that is not honest. Women never seem to be obligated to help random men when they have an accident/attacked/etc. At best, they will call the cops to help him. Why should women expect different from random men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:11 PM
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Standards are pretty low in general in the Western world. Haven't women argued for decades that they don't "owe" men anything? Well, I guess men are just following that logic back towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:06 PM
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plenty of empathy is shown by calling the cops
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:00 PM
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How can you be sure that it can be done safely without physical/liability issues? That is impossible. Ergo, the male who involves himself will always take risk to benefit the unknown female.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:58 PM
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That is a ridiculous hypothetical that could never be determined in the real world. Calling the cops without getting involved is the only viable option considering liability and personal safety for a stranger female.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:56 PM
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Women should marry younger and avoid riding the CC. If Chad won't commit young, don't keep fooling around on the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:43 PM
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Since its women who want to get married, they have to show the benefit for men. If men were the ones wanting to marry women in large numbers, then they would have to answer that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:42 PM
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No they are not. Just call the cops if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:42 PM
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Speaking about just "wanting" to marry doesn't really provide tangible benefits that can be discerned. I may just want to eat Big Macs all day, doesn't make it a smart option.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:41 PM
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Well that is one of the best situations possible in my opinion. My questions was specifically when meeting the female already >28 without knowing her beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:22 PM
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Well very low value men might find these used goods types a "good deal" due to their SMV/RMP value. However, I'm speaking about relatively successful dudes in their 30s. Why would they marry >99% of these types of women? They seem to bring little to no value with high risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:12 PM
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Fortunately, men are waking up to that and the marriage rate has collapsed. Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:10 PM
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I have no problem if the woman openly admits to her history and is honest about it. How many women are like that? Lets be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:09 PM
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Then why do women hide the fact from potential partners? They should be very proud to have taken many before right and proudly state it to their future potential husband!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:29 PM
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Correction, I meant most women considering what men are largely interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:24 PM
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Isn't the point of PPD to discuss these issues though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:11 PM
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Being chad is always fun actually Women are mostly only good for pump and dump these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:07 PM
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Men have no reason to be "high quality" in terms of marriage items. They should just Chad it up or MGTOW with benefits (fuck sluts on the side but never marry)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:17 AM
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Yeah beta bobs shouldn't marry. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:14 AM
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All these studies show are men break their asses more in marriage for women/children. That doesn't show the same level of work input still favors married men for output. Understand the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:13 AM
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Cool story bro Never seen that in finance, consulting, medicine or lawyering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:54 AM
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ok ill stop talking about Ellen, Oprah, Oz and Phil
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:19 AM
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Lets be honest here though. Most feminists aren't exactly super models and usually support the "fat is beautiful" movement. These types are big fans of Ellen, Oprah, Phil, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:03 AM
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men shouldnt marry
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:02 AM
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I agree! More good reasoning on here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:01 AM
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Dunno, thought most BP women loved those con men since its most fat feminist women who watch their crap. Ergo, most fat feminist women subscribe to BP, so I figured there would be a good amount of overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:57 AM
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They do? How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:56 AM
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Yeah but most men shouldn't unless there are very specific/good reasons to do so, which >95% of men won't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:34 AM
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Yeah but I do find them amusing. Especially Oz and Phil. Oz berated out Roosh about "fat women" while you DAMN well know that fucker aint marrying to morbidly obese slob woman. Come on be realistic here people!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:34 AM
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Yes especially for men. Who wants an older woman with no assets/income that is just a financial burden on the male? Dude can just become a sugar daddy and bang younger, hotter women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:30 AM
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Yeah I know. Thats why avoidance of marriage in general is probably the best idea. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:30 AM
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Oprah, Ellen, Oz and Phil
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:28 AM
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Yeah good point. Thats why avoidance of marriage, particularly after the age of 25, is very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:24 AM
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I find them quite amusing considering the level of delusion. But I have to give Ellen, Oprah, Phil and Oz credit. They know how to play these fat women very well and tell them what they want to hear. I would do the same thing for 100s of millions of dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:24 AM
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I agree with that actually as the "best potential marriage market" and even there the cost/benefit ratio is close. Outside of that, men have all cost with minimal benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:15 AM
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Yeah but the beauty is the beta bucks dudes aren't becoming bucks or not marrying in larger and larger numbers. These dudes benefit from MGTOW with benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:14 AM
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Yeah they are ok. I always find them comedic where they have morbidly obese housewives/women who are told "fat is beautiful" while they believe all male models love morbidly obese "curvy" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:13 AM
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Actually, considering marriage is at all time lows with singlehood being at all time highs, I figure many men are already convinced of this, with more everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:12 AM
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good point. Since the vast majority of people aren't married by 22 anymore, the vast majority shouldn't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:12 AM
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Yup they do and mostly at early ages. I argue that women >28 aren't really marriage material unless she was BF/GF with the guy since a younger age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:10 AM
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I agree and am arguing that for the vast majority of men actually. Thanks for the support.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:08 AM
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It appears most women aren't marriage material though. The best ones are usually married by their early 20s. Why would I want to become beta bucks for a post 25 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:07 AM
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Considering we are unable to determine which women are high risk vs low risk with enough reliability, marriage appears to remain a financial Russian Roulette proposition under current laws. Men don't just randomly marry into "wealthy" families. They usually come from high wealth families already and/or very high paying high status position already. The amount of high status women with significant income/assets is marginal compared to men, therefore, this would only apply to a very small exceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:06 AM
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Yes but if she has less wealth/income, he would be poorer if they divorced. Ergo, since most marriages have men with more assets/income with >50% divorce rates, this doesn't appear to be a wise financial decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:03 AM
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Yeah, fortunately for men in their 20s and 30s, being married doesn't really help them in the vast majority of cases of the work force since such a high number of them are single these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:01 AM
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LOL thanks for supporting my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:00 AM
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Nice strawman I plan on pump and dumping women since I obtain no benefit in marriage. PPD is for questions along these lines. If you don't like these questions, maybe you should just read Jezebel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:59 PM
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Maybe in some weird niche aspect but not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:59 PM
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Yeah thats largely rich men marrying rich women as long as there is a mutual business arrangement. Kind've like Trump and Kushner. However, the vast majority of women don't offer anything for a successful man due to lack of major assets/income.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:57 PM
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Beta bucks doesn't get long term "love" that is a short term biochemical high. With a >50% divorce rate, stable family life is far from assured from marriage. Where is this "status" obtained from being married? Is Leonard Dicaprio of low status due to being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:56 PM
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Yeah, all I know is that I rarely see this in the major industries of finance, consulting or medicine. So the value proposition of this is far too limited compared to the cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:54 PM
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Im speaking about an "older" Chad or a MGTOW with assets. Neither of these two would benefit from marriage vs buying sugar baby pussy on the cheap
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:53 PM
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Yes another reason to avoid marriage due to "male sluts" Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:52 PM
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I don't know these fucking acronyms around here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:50 PM
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Im in my 30s, never seen any male in his 20s and 30s get promoted faster, get into a more prestigious school, etc due to being married. Is that part of admission to Wharton MBA or U of C MBA these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:50 PM
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Yes but why would he want to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:49 PM
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Actually by being "Chad" with money as he gets older, he can always get younger pussy. Even after he gets older, he can always basically lease younger pussy rather than buying an old pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:49 PM
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That doesn't answer why the male would want to become "marriage" material these days compared to Chad or MGTOW. You just gave further reasons why men shouldn't get married since women clearly wouldn't want to be "virginal kinky versions of his mom" but just a post wall CC riding ball buster. Thanks for helping my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:48 PM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:46 PM
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Very true and thats what I advocate. No benefit in being the "stable" male for modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:46 PM
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Yes but far fewer men are getting married and far fewer men are obtaining the traits that make them "marriage" material. Ergo, post wall CC riders are going to be upset in mass numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:45 PM
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Are women in their peak of youth/fertility/attractiveness going for guys with good "marriageable" traits sexually or getting banged out by Chads? Marriage traits only seem to "attract" post wall CC riders that "had their fun" but now "want to settle down". In that situation, men would do far better becoming a "sugar daddy" where they can bang younger/hotter women for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:43 PM
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I was speaking about MSM. Yes the TRP advocates that often. I see no problem if they want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:38 PM
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Never seen that before lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:35 PM
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Good another reason that we should do away with marriage then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:35 PM
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I dont want a "nice pretty available" post CC riding woman in her 30s. She was likely far too "available" to many men before me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:34 PM
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You must miss all the "where are the good man articles", sex and the city shows, Oprah, Ellen Degenerate, etc then I suppose. You are a rare female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:32 PM
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Women are only jealous of losing beta bucks assets/income. They don't give a damn about sex bots unless it takes away from beta bucks men from marrying them after they fall off the CC as a good "insurance policy" if Chad isn't interested in marrying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:31 PM
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Its because we see all these post wall CC riding feminist articles for the reality they are despite the shaming language and attempt to hide the true reason behind these articles. Consider it an interesting study of the psychology of females in the Western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:29 PM
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The question is for the ladies of BP. Many of them still want to get married and are concerned about the "lack of good men" out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:27 PM
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There are studies that show married men make more than single men but CORRELATION DOESN'T EQUAL CAUSATION. Ergo, women likely marry men who already made more money than single men. Also, these studies are lagging indicators. Things have dramatically shifted in the last 15 years with single people outnumbering married people these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:26 PM
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Which companies are paying higher for being married? Haven't found any jobs like that. Also, if the days of "divorce rape" are "over", how are there still states that have permanent alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:20 PM
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Good point. I would also add the male should have less in assets than the female when getting married as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:16 PM
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The temporary maintenance of housework/cooking is of minimal value considering the risk of financial loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:13 PM
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Good point. Its just toxic nonsense like Ellen Degenerate, Oprah and Dr Oz
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:12 PM
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Successful men can easily become "sugar daddies" that get younger/hotter women for far less money than marriage costs. Ergo, sex is definitely not worth it for an aging wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:06 PM
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Yeah but I get tired from the incessant whining from the post wall CC riders in newspapers/online articles about "where are the good men at?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:05 PM
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Modern women are not obligated to do housework, cooking or provide regular sex. Ergo, none of these are promised by marriage and can be withheld by the wife for ANY REASON at ANY TIME.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:04 PM
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Yeah so why ever marry someone who is so fickle considering the risk to the male's financial health? Makes absolutely NO sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:04 PM
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Yeah but thats still far better than marrying a late 20s/30s post wall CC rider. What benefit is there for a male in that situation at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:03 PM
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Post wall 30+ year old women seem to care and bitch about it often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:02 PM
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Correct analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:00 PM
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So thats not the only way to be "shallow" though. People can be shallow for assets, money, height, etc. Women are far more shallow when it comes to these attributes than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:59 PM
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What is marriage about then for the male?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:55 PM
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Correct. But whats the benefit in marrying a post wall mid 30s woman whose womb has been polluted by many male genitals before me for half my assets? Sounds like a losing deal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:55 PM
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Financial risk and loss of assets for the male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:54 PM
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Actually, the majority of marriages have men making more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:31 PM
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Why marry at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:31 PM
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i don't see feminists discouraging that viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:31 PM
3

How do you define them being "more shallow"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:30 PM
1

Money with Cash/Prizes. That answer is obvious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:02 PM
22

For years, feminists have pointed out how men are "shallow". This has been accepted wisdom of the general population of the Western world for YEARS. TRP is just showing that this is true for WOMEN as well being very SHALLOW and MILITANT in their sexual strategy. Don't see any hypocrisy pointing out that women aren't sugar and spice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:59 PM
2

Or the Muslims in Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:55 PM
13

By this logic, men should avoid all financial LTR (ex marriage) with women due to their "changing preferences". Who is to say she wont divorce you in 10 years due to her changing sexual dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:53 PM
1

If women's preferences change so readily, then whats the point of marriage with women? Not logical to marry for a male if women are so "emotional" and "changing" in preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:52 PM
2

Most frat dudes don't live that type of lifestyle either. They might have relations with a few sorority girls but thats about it. You are looking at the top .01% of the male population that can pull that off. Just be super rich like Dan Blizzeran or however you spell his name. He gets way more vagina than any "frat dude". Just almost impossible to pull off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:10 PM
-2

Its a response to how women treat most men these days. The TRP is fully rational in that regard towards the modern American woman. Women started it, men are just responding appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:05 PM
0

Sounds like a beta nerd trying to be "alpha". He somehow defines himself in the "top 1/2 of 1 percent" due to some mythical game bullshit. PUA stuff doesn't work. Its basically icing on the cake. If he doesn't have the status/physique/money/etc, he surely isn't high in SMP value. The rest is rationalization bullshit. "Dread game"= retard game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:58 PM
8

Conservative Catholic girl that does casual sex with her "boyfriends" and sends out nude pics over Tinder lol. Gee, sounds real "Christian conservative" to me lol
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 01:53 PM
1

Dunno maybe legitimacy? He had the biggest hedge fund in Russia in 2014. Was in Bloomberg. Only found out about it when the scandal broke and the Dean announced it.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 11:45 AM
3

What does BB do for a job? What does BB look like? Don't understand how a man without children could marry a woman with children. Its totally illogical from any intelligent standpoint outside of "shaming". Any single mom is automatically assumed to be riding the CC by myself. Furthermore, her other behavior of dropping out of college, partying, etc is VERY OBVIOUS to anyone with ANY brains. BB must be a very pathetic creature.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 11:38 AM
0

Read the bell curve by Charles Murray. IQ is the number one determinant for success in academics and business. Sure there are some lower IQ "titans" running 130 IQ PHDs, but not many.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 09:59 AM
1

Your stats aren't better than mine, so why would I be upset? Also, how could your brother be doing better than "all my MBA chums"? Do you think the top salary among all MBA students is 130k? We have JP Morgan traders, Goldman Sachs traders, etc. We just had a student get kicked out of the program for stealing over 100 million dollars after the SEC started prosecuting him. He is from Russia (not America), so I'm skeptical they can do anything about it. The CEO of Microsoft just graduated from our…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 09:57 AM
-15

Don't worry brah. Just put your mind to it. I think I can, I think I can.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 01:26 AM
13

A mother's love is unconditional. A female's romantic love is very conditional, which usually depends on: 1) Status/Money 2) Dominance and "Tingles" 3) Looks/ Physique 4) Not showing insecurity. To gain a female's love, you must help her financially, emotionally and physically. In return, you get no guarantee of much except demands. It is really that simple.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 12:47 AM
0

TRP is becoming a joke with these types of posts
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 12:44 AM
-20

Plenty of truth in the statement. The only problem is you probably have a low IQ. Ergo, to make the statement that if you applied mentally you'd be "unstoppable" is a big assumption. Most likely, you are too low in IQ to be dominant in academia or life in general.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 12:41 AM
-2

This is foolish speculation. Also, divorce laws in Japan are FAR better than the USA. Women basically don't get shit after divorce. Ergo, the joke would be on her if they married. Not sure the story with these two from a picture though.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 12:39 AM
1

lol
/r/MensRights23/09/15 01:31 AM
17

Isn't it amazing she has this epiphany about the liking beta bucks when her SMV is on a massive decline? What a coincidence! Nah that can't be it! Must be her "growing up" or something and changing her opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:59 AM
2

He doesn't sound angry at all. Sounds like he is very aware of real social dynamics and the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:47 AM
12

You just described the wall perfectly. Just left out the reason for the "change in priorities" as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:43 AM
3

I agree but BP women who marry beta bucks don't want this to get out. Beta Bucks usually has bene unsuccessful with women and has a low partner count. His future wife is usually far more sexually experienced. Its in her interests to keep this info on the "downlow"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:07 PM
3

True, men need to look out for themselves and their own benefit in these relationships. Be as militant as the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:05 PM
5

yes. but interestingly, women don't really care about this as much as other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:03 PM
6

Its called the WALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:50 PM
4

The cousin is only wrong if he LIED. If he didn't lie, then he was well within his rights to tell Amit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:50 PM
3

Ok, then she could easily clear that confusion up by explaining how she dated other Indian men and had a low N count. Why would Amit ditch her then? Not logical. Also, notice how there was no real rebuttal in the story. Nikki never said she didn't date mostly White dudes or sleep with them as a defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:48 PM
3

Not to the financee it wasn't. Maybe he would like to know her sexual/dating history before he marries her. He is perfectly right to know this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:43 PM
6

Well from the story, it sounds like the brother was telling the truth. Amit slept with a bunch of White dudes and then changed course when she hit her late 20s. The fiancee was rightfully pissed off about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:42 PM
5

Obviously the fiancee and Nikki talked it over. The fiancee still cut the marriage off. So something was said that Nikki either lied about/lied by omission about. Why would he cut off the marriage if it was false?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:37 PM
5

Their defense is simple: 1) Its none of his business to know 2) It doesn't matter if she slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:32 PM
5

Of course. The sisterhood is looking out for each other again. They don't want men running away from marriage due to sleeping around. It might hurt a lot of women's marriage prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:31 PM
11

Who are you to decide what is "objectively bad traits". Gambling is considered fine in Las Vegas. Many respectable businessmen own Casinos. Also, why doesn't the fiancee have the right to decide if he doesn't want to marry a woman who slept around? To many men, this is an "objectively bad trait"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:29 PM
3

The brother did ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong. He basically warned the fiancee about the history of his soon to be wife. Apparently, she didn't tell her future husband the truth about her past relationships. Also, it appears very apparent that she was "settling" for her fiancee because her previous boyfriends were all white dudes that she would bang. Why did she quickly change her script when she hit the late 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:26 PM
8

Many men believe women sleeping around is very bad before marriage. It is their right to have this information and make their own decision on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:24 PM
5

Good for the brother. He is allowed to tell other men how he views the world. If he can give a cogent argument, there is nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:57 PM
1

Another example of red pill in action. How can BP rationalize this decision?
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 08:49 PM
2

This gets a triple negative rating. Fucking beta as shit. This dude can't be serious
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 08:38 PM
2

You honestly saying 100% of college women get banged out by 17 men by the time they are 20? Nothing to do with NAWALT
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 08:35 PM
-1

I have yet to see how you have arrived at your belief that most of these stories aren't anecdotal bullshit. My analogy still stands. If you had a subreddit that was about basketball and many of the posters claimed to be top NBA players, would that cause you to be skeptical about their claims? Just knowing the general statistical probability of becoming a basketball player for the NBA is very low. However, since it is a basketball sub, maybe its more likely that NBA players might be there. Would …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:07 PM
-2

NO they don't. Not all women slut it up that bad.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 07:32 PM
19

Its not all bad. There are a few things you can do at 20 to fix your odds: 1) Date an older beta bucks dude 2) Get in good shape 3) Get off the drugs 4) Play female game in being very nice/attentive to the guy without nagging. Try to also do things for future beta bucks. Lock down some beta chump and you might be alright.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 07:01 PM
3

She isn't fucked if she can find a beta bucks nerdy dude. She just better be in good shape.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 06:59 PM
24

No redpill man is going to want some chick who got banged out by 18 men by the age 20 for a LTR. Also, you sound like you are a drug addict with a ton of other problems. The only thing worse could be if you are fat and chubbed up significantly.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 06:55 PM
-2

A better analogy for dudes playing alpha on TRP: A basketball subreddit where guys are claiming they play for the NBA and are top in the league. Would we trust anonymous internet posters on a basketball subreddit with fanciful claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:33 PM
2

It still correlates for the overall society. Its just there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:33 PM
3

The biggest problem with this study is the sample was done in the USA and on college campuses in the 2000s. If we did this study in other circumstances, the outcome could've been different: 1) Another culture: Islamic men seem to stick together very well and have strong in group preference against women. 2) 1950s America had all male groups such as Rotary that were subverted. In those days, White males might have shown more in group preference. This only shows in liberal America in the 2000s, Am…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:32 PM
-1

Correct, most are beta bitches attempting to fake an alpha. But there is a lot of wisdom in TRP. Just, there are a good amount of betas who can improve their standing but never be true alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:21 PM
-3

Actually, my undergrad was chemistry and math. Also, your logic is flawed due to you mentioning the NBA or other groups that have already VETTED the people. Ergo, they had an actual screening process with validity. TRP has no evidence of screening except for some random internet nerds yapping. So, the most likely scenario is the vast majority are full of shit. Sorry brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:20 PM
0

Im a red piller actually lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:03 PM
0

Although I agree with some of the general principle of TRP, we all know a good portion of the community are weak nerds that make no money. In fact, most "natural alphas" won't spend time posting how awesome they are on a subreddit. They get enough praise in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:17 PM
1

Yeah, I have a feeling thats true of many on TRP too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 04:56 PM
-1

true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 04:15 PM
0

Feminism's social contract for marriage: 1) Man should continue with the traditional roles such as providing for the female in marriage, protection, etc. 2) Women shouldn't do any traditional roles due to being "oppressive" 3) Man should not expect sex from his wife 4) Women should divorce rape male if she feels "unhappy" Also, don't worry about her history of sexual partners. Thats none of YOUR BUSINESS! Where do I sign up for this social contract?
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 03:31 PM
1

good point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:29 PM
0

No, they are pretty accurate on that stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:03 PM
-2

been on there a week, saw a good amount of these types of stories
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:02 PM
-2

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:01 PM
2

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-average-salary-of-millennials-2015-3 Interesting stats on salaries for Millennials. Most of these people have internet. TRP must be killing them badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:51 PM
-1

Top 1% of the US population. By your logic, TUMBLR feministas are also in the top 1% as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:40 PM
-1

sounds more believable than the vast majority of TRP stories
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:27 PM
1

true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:26 PM
0

Go look at the debate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:26 PM
-2

Are you seriously comparing a REAL LIFE convention where people have been verified to be physicians to some internet subreddit composed of self proclaimed top 1%ers? There is a slight difference there brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:25 PM
-1

Do you honestly believe dudes who post on TRP are disproportionately in the top 1% of males in the 20s and 30s? Your "sampling" is dependent on that assertion. It is probably pretty safe to assume this isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:24 PM
-3

The validity of your premise is dependent on assumptions that appear too large to take seriously. I would safely continue to assume my perspective is correct based on common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:23 PM
-1

Yeah there is a little bit of a difference there champ lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:21 PM
-1

You have any evidence to back up your assertion? The validity of that statement is very questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:21 PM
-1

Do you honestly believe there is that level of overrepresentation of the top 1% on the TRP? I am pretty skeptical about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:09 PM
-1

I actually shuddered to even talk about MBA or anything because: 1) Everyone would be richer, more successful, accomplished, muscular, etc. 2) I would be accused of lying
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:08 PM
-4

I honestly think people need to feel special online and make false personalities. That is why they will aggressively "brag"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:06 PM
1

Yeah that was the most recent bullshit one. I challenged the dude on starting his company in 7 months making 6 figures already. Basically told him they need to use him as a case study for MBA students because the vast majority of top MBAs aren't that successful. He basically is arguing its pretty easy to do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:00 PM
-3

I wish I could point out the stories by flagging them here. The rest of the TRP is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:59 PM
2

Yeah, the story sounds fishy
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 12:55 PM
2

I've seen dudes like the beta guy described in the story in real life. I wouldn't doubt that part.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 12:55 PM
-1

Its true, you can't verify my degrees or anything. The difference is I'm not using it to brag as a post. I am trying to give the MBA student's avg level as a reference point. Suffice it to say, the claims made become even more dubious in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:51 PM
-2

There is really no reason to lie about this stuff. Notice I speak nothing of my salary, physique, height, etc. I am not bragging about how great I am. It is just giving an example. Lets change the MBA towards a random person and not me. The only reason I said "me" was because I will be challenged about the avg person in the MBA program's stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:49 PM
-5

Its to show a comparison between top MBA students and TRP posters. Apparently, TRPs posters are far superior to top MBA students in terms of salaries and overall status
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:47 PM
-2

Yeah man, everyone makes 150K per year by their 20s. Shit, those median stats about avg male per capita income are all bullshit. The avg TRP salary has to be at least 200K/year.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:47 PM
3

I think women aren't held accountable due to the mangina system we have in the Western world. That is the real reason women are able to act so poorly with hypergamous instincts that go unchecked
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:45 PM
-10

Cool story bro. You da man. I can't believe I'm in the presence of so many high fliers on TRP. Maybe the success will rub off on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:14 PM
0

Just check out half of the personal stories over the last week. I will point them out in the future if you're around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:06 PM
-7

Actually, don't think that at all. Just think dudes overly brag.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:05 PM
-3

Im pretty confident in the TRP philosophy from the Western White female POV. Its just that I am skeptical about a lot of the "personal" stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:05 PM
1

Im speaking about the MBA to give a reference point, not to brag. I have questioned the value of the MBA but then I see guys from JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, etc getting the degree. Obviously, these people feel there is significant value to the degree from a top school. They also have representation from top medical companies and consulting firms. Im coming from a different field (medicine) so I'm trying to evaluate the value in the degree. I am able to half the cost due to writing it off as a "bus…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 12:04 PM
1

Actually, its only about 68K due to the vast majority being poor in Manhattan. 300K would be people who work in finance and do well.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 11:58 AM
3

LOL cool story bro. I'm very jealous of anonymous people on the internet that I can't verify anything they say. Freud would be proud of your deductive skills. Wish these stories were actually true. But my "common sense" spidey senses tell me otherwise.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 11:57 AM
1

Good point. Some smart TRP people on here. Some confirmation bias might be taking place. Its probably a combination of bullshitters and some real people.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 11:52 AM
2

It sounds good but there are too many stories like this on this subreddit, making it look fake. The MBA thing wasn't to brag, it was to give a comparison to so many of the posters on here. I might be getting too harsh but the stories are getting too fanciful. Most dudes in the MBA program don't appear anywhere as successful as the TRP posts I've been reading recently.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 10:59 AM
3

Its true that it COULD occur (yes I was being generous with 20% for muscular, its really about 10% or less at best), but not at the frequency of the posts on the TRP. I am currently in the University of Chicago MBA (for reference) which is a TOP MBA program. This ISN'T to brag but to give a comparison. The dudes who are posting these stories on the TRP would be better than 95% of the class. Do you honestly believe that many highly successful people have posted on the TRP subreddit in the last fe…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 10:55 AM
0

Recent posts from TRP: 1) One dude is a consultant making 7 figures, muscular, early 40s. 2) One dude made a business in 7 months making greater than 6 figures already. He anticipates making >600K/year 3) One dude is 27 y/o, boss of some finance firm, banged some "hot 25 y/o woman" after telling her "nice ass". Story was about his "beta friend" who married a 40 year old. He makes >6 figures and is alpha as fuck. These guys are more impressive than >90% of the dudes in my MBA program from Chicago…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:54 AM
1

Let me guess other qualities you have: 1) 6 foot or greater 2) Muscular 3) 20s to 30s You da man brah! Funny thing is, since starting my MBA program at the University of Chicago (ranked in the top 5, often in the top 3 by most magazines), I haven't met as many successful dudes as on the TRP. Fuck, this place is alpha. Its easy as hell to make >600K/year by your 30s. Just make your own business, get a couple of clients!
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 10:42 AM
3

Good point. I am relatively new to the TRP and find many of the posts really fascinating on the theory aspect. I believe there is general truth to these ideas (particularly for White American Women) but nothing is "perfect". No social science applies to all people and situations. The braggart posts that have become numerous are distracting from the overall quality of the subreddit. Posts from a 3/10 dude going to 6/10 would be far more helpful. Or a blue piller who got "frame". But not everyone …
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 10:40 AM
-2

Yes it is the same generally but I have added stats to it. The statistical probability of <1% of the male population in their 20s to 30s being all those qualities listed above. This gives even more credence to the fact that these stories have to be bullshit on average. The post you listed only states that "everyone can't be a winner" basically. I am showing statistically the improbability of many of the stories noted on the TRP. Almost all of the posts follow this general theme.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:34 AM
6

Wow, you're the man. You made a company about 7 months ago and are making >6 figures already. Considering >90% of small businesses fail, you are one of the biggest success stories going! Let me guess, >6 foot and muscular too right? Shit, we have the most successful businessmen in history on this website. MBAs from Chicago, Harvard, etc should do case studies on the business techniques of TRP posters.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 10:13 AM
10

I think the first part is probably accurate. He made up the bullshit about the 25 y/o daughter banging him to look "alpha". A lot of nerds on the TRP embellish their stories. Everyone is 6 foot or greater, muscular and >100K salary on the TRP.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 10:09 AM
2

Cool story until the made up 25 y/o female part. Sounds like totally bullshit out of a cheesy porno. I believe the first part though. Beta bucks are gonna beta. I've seen this before in real life. Could've been made up too but is more believable then his second bullshit part. Remember this is TRP. Everyone is "alpha" with the following attributes: 1) 6 foot or greater 2) Muscular 3) >100K year/salary 4) Bangs women with ease. Goes up to random woman, says something about "nice ass" and woman fal…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 10:07 AM
5

Sounds scripted. These people usually "divorce" right after the show. Look at the history of "relationships" after the show, with a >80% breakup rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:55 AM
2

Thats a pretty low standard lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:18 AM
1

Well it depends on your N count right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:17 AM
2

Can they ever change though? How often do drug addicts change?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:00 AM
5

I'd like to hand this fucker over to ISIS and let nature take its course.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 12:32 AM
8

Sounds like a piece of shit who basically is robbing value from the system and producing nothing. Typical parasitic move that Jewish bankers did in the past. Remember how that turned out. Don't be too "smart". The dude is a crypto Jew that is just manipulating the system with an underground Jewish group of traders/investors. This is nothing new. He is also a little bitch that looks like he is about 5'5" and 120lbs soaking wet. He doesn't look "alpha" to me. By that logic, the biggest con man ban…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 09:26 PM
42

Then why is there the "fat is beautiful" nonsense. It should just be "don't make fun of people" for a variety of reasons. Stop the hamstering. We fully understand it. Denying it doesn't change the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:39 PM
3

I saw the study on TRP and brought it here to see the feminists response.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:21 PM
2

Correct. Fat acceptance women want to "play" it both ways. In one breath, its about "not shaming" when challenged. However, there has been an active campaign to pretend it is ATTRACTIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:20 PM
5

Feminists pretend that being fat these days is "attractive". We actually need studies to prove this is false lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:18 PM
3

This study is going to be posted on purple pill debate. I would like to see the feminists perspective on this! Great stuff with the fat acceptance movement.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 01:52 PM
0

It represents things pretty well actually
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 12:40 PM
22

Very true. Isn't it funny how everything is fine sexually including: Gays, Transgenders, Cougars, etc but NOT older men with younger women. Funny how feminism works.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 12:40 PM
1

im 35 years old
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 06:35 AM
38

Very true article. Saw this myself when I traded in my 34 y/o gf for my current 24 y/o gf.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 01:45 AM
9

Dunno, women are still admitted to med school with lower MCAT scores than men. It is a bigger gradient for AA and Hispanics but it still exists for white women as well.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 08:22 PM
6

AA aplies to women these days.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 08:16 PM
20

Many of these women stop working as well if they can snag a richer dude.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 07:02 PM
-2

Wow truly impressive shit brah. We all bow before your greatness and alpha status.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 05:05 PM
47

When I was in med school, this was very common. Women literally became far more hypergamous after they went through medical school. Also, they were often looking to marry another doctor and drop out of the profession. Why marry another physician woman who is in debt and drops out? All you get is a woman in her 30s who has a bunch of debt and "big ego due to being a physician". The younger , attractive woman is better without an education.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 04:49 PM
1

True nothing wrong with female strip clubs. But feminists want to cry that they are "objectified"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 04:45 PM
4

Its basically icing on the cake for a LTR. But if the basic cake isn't there, it isn't helpful. "Attraction" is an amalgam of many different factors
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 04:48 PM
1

Ok good explanation. The biggest problems started in previous stories. The last one was some dude making millions as an investment banker who was in his 40s dating early 20s females. He was muscular and "alpha" too. The stories have gotten ridiculous.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/15 11:45 AM
1

Oh well, shit happens. Just curious about medical malpractice cases due to being in the field.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:33 PM
2

That sounds like the insurance limits of the policy. The physician he sued might: 1) Have no money. They often will just have debt after coming out of medical school and residency. Nothing to go after in personal assets 2) Irrevocable Trust, Homestead Exemption in certain states, possible LLC to prevent lawsuit success. 3) Assets have been transferred to Wife already before lawsuit
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:19 PM
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Welcome to the TRP brah. I was never that much of a beta because I was always against feminist and partially "female wise". I was still under the illusion that "being nice" to women would be of SOME benefit in a relationship. I have since found that being "nice" without being dominant/controlling the nagging/etc doesn't really work. Also, the abundance mentality works well.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:16 PM
2

How come he couldn't get more than 2 million in the settlement? What was the case/fuckup? How old was the person? Need to know more before making a judgement on the issue.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:13 PM
2

How do I get enough "experience" to post my own thread on this subreddit?
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:07 PM
3

They have LLCs noted in Delaware and Nevada that are pretty hard to break due to the "charging order". They are basically unable to take anything out of the LLC until the trustee distributes from the LLC but they get the tax liability for a judgement. They usually settle for pennies on the dollar with these types of arrangements.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:07 PM
3

I know for medical liability or other personal lawsuits, they aren't a protection in almost any state. The scumbag divorce judges will often take money from a revocable trust.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:04 PM
2

Only irrevocable trusts protect you from liability. The rest don't really protect much from liability.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:01 PM
5

He needs to give this bitch the boot and better find out about the cohabiting laws of the state. GET HER OUT NOW!!!!
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 10:59 PM
1

He's a moron to allow that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:42 PM
1

Thats not the question to ask exact partner counts. Its basically about how long their relationships have been in the past. How many short term relationships they had vs long term? If the are 35 with only short term relationships, she is red flag central.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:42 PM
1

lol you mad bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:03 PM
1

Ok well I agree with the mental state behind the post. I live in a similar fashion at 35. Dating a woman over 11 years younger than myself and use the same techniques. I just wouldn't be that confident these days regardless of techniques used that marriage will last 30 years. I've seen plenty of very alpha dudes get fucked in divorce court including very wealthy/muscular men.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 09:38 PM
2

Yes but its still illogical because she is attempting to get HIM TO RESPECT HER. Ergo, it is how he perceives the situation, not her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 09:37 PM
1

Not that badly. Most of them spill the beans. You just don't come at them aggressively like a "red pill" guy who is angry about it. Appear open minded about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 09:16 PM
3

Correct. I attempt to give women in their 30s a "chance" (since I'm 35) when considering dating. The last 35 y/o female who was a CPA that I went on a "coffee date" with didn't directly tell me that she had a high N count. I just inquired about her relationship history in a non confrontational manner. She admitted she had mostly shorter relationships with "jocks and assholes" when she was younger but grew out of that phase in her 30s. Translation: RUN RUN RUN! She sees me as beta bucks after get…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:18 PM
-1

Hasn't proven shit yet. He is only 30 (according to his story). The rest is just mental masturbation and bragging.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 05:40 PM
-1

Natural alphas are unlikely to find the TRP because they already live it. They already have an abundance mentality due to a good amount of female attention usually coming from their status/muscularity/etc. 99.9% of men on the TRP come from: 1) Blue pill men who had no success with women being "nice". Despite women claiming to want "nice guys", they saw the opposite constantly in real life. Often these former blue pillers become red pill. They work on themselves to become more muscular, successfu…
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 05:19 PM
1

Yes women pull that shit often. I had an ex girlfriend that would talk about wanting to see "Thunder Down Under" and would talk about "hot celebrity males". I told her go for it with them and gave her the boot. She was hitting the wall anyway, so it wasn't a big deal for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 05:10 PM
-2

Good point. Probably betas posting trying to convince themselves they are "alpha" by talking themselves up. Real alphas don't talk like this.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 04:22 PM
1

That is the point of the TRP. To help those types of dudes and others. The knowledge is getting out there. Keep the fight alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:16 PM
1

Yeah if she totally lies about her past and the guy is a moron, it could possibly work. But asking simple questions about previous relationships will easily tease out the details. She can't lie about her lack of long term relationships without significant evidence for her lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:10 PM
1

Yes, they at "outraged" at non slutty women who act feminine and motherly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:05 PM
-4

I think its internet nerds that think they are "alpha" trying to brag online. Everyone of these stories are about the same: 1) Muscular "genetically" superior male coming from a family of "alphas" 2) Got a "great job" 3) Women are on their dick. Anyone who is tall, muscular, has a "good job", etc can get a woman. Truly rich, tall, muscular guys don't need to brag about this online for the sake of bragging. Their whole life is essentially "bragging", they don't need online validation. I can only …
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 03:53 PM
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Whats up with these self praise stories that are showing up on the TRP? We can't verify any of these claims of "alpha behavior" because we have never seen the person. There really is no educational value to these stories either, just bragging. Don't get the point. Mostly sounds like internet nerds that have to brag online to look "cool". Also, the marriage isn't that long term yet. You are only in the early 30s. Call back in 20 years to see if this actually lasts. I'd be more impressed by someon…
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 03:41 PM
2

Feminism Logic 101
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:36 PM
2

I am speaking about the truth feminism. You are speaking about the mythical feminism with the "equality" tags to make it sound palatable. That feminism doesn't really exist and is used to fake its true intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 02:26 PM
1

Actually get my experience from one of the top ranked MBAs in the country. A lot of nerds but a decent that aren't nerds. Thanks for the information internet guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 02:25 PM
4

This would be about half of the women in their 30s these days. This ISN'T RARE
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 12:01 PM
3

They are quite prevalent among women in their 30s. Look around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 12:00 PM
1

Yes but thats because online dating is more a man's domain. Women usually cheat with close guys who are friends with their friends, or coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 11:53 AM
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Yes but women have the reputation for being "good" and men are "bad". This study proves that women actually cheat more than men. The typical myth is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 11:53 AM
3

typical feminist strawman argument. Stop whining feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 11:52 AM
1

ok well trades make more dollars anyway lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:41 PM
2

Not overthinking anything. Know the lying hypocrisy of feminists these days
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:16 PM
4

Look it up, its linked on the page
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:15 PM
0

This is the most recent poll on the subject. Ergo, it is showing women cheat more than men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:15 PM
0

Guys on Wallstreet frequent strip clubs often. Stop the bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:13 PM
1

Sleeping with strippers is common too for women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:11 PM
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Who the fuck are you to tell me what to talk about? Don't like it, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:09 PM
7

Do you have polls that contradict this recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:08 PM
4

LOL "hate women so much"= feminist shaming language 101
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:06 PM
0

Then why do guys from Goldman sachs and other power players have meetings at strip clubs? These guys can bang any woman they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:36 PM
1

Supposed to be based on his strip club experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:30 PM
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LOL nice rationalization. That makes absolutely no sense though. Many of the women that go to strip club are morbidly obese slobs that men in good shape wouldn't look at twice. Also, men going to strip clubs wasn't seen as a "loser" thing until feminism. Before "feminism", it was seen as natural for a man to go to a strip club. It was abnormal or considered "loser" material until feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:29 PM
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I just lined an article by a female above
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:26 PM
0

Another linked article about how women slut it up at strip clubs these days: http://www.lifetimemoms.com/love-and-sex/women-losing-their-shnitz-over-male-strippers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:25 PM
-1

How do we determine the percentages of men or women who have fucked strippers?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:19 PM
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Yes, I used to reject these stories. After seeing Magic Mike, I'm not so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:18 PM
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There are countless stories on the internet of women having sex with male strippers. Also, women talked about how "hot" channing tatum was after Magic Mike and how they would love to have sex with him. Don't give me that stuff about it being just "funny".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:17 PM
-1

Dunno how to "source" something like that besides anecdotes from male strippers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:13 PM
7

Very few people care about others more than themselves, particularly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:13 PM
6

I was pretty socially adept and can bang women easily in my 30s. Just think TRP explains female nature in the West quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:05 PM
-2

That is correct. There are a large segment of women who get banged out by strippers and have one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:02 PM
2

There is no more privileged class in America than whiny white feminist women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:01 PM
1

She has non but whiny and privileged White feminists who want to play the victim card for benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:01 PM
1

Hypocrites and Feminists are synonyms
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:59 PM
5

True
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:59 PM
0

Male strip clubs are far less strict. Male strippers will routinely have sex with female patrons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:59 PM
3

Then why do women go to strip clubs? They shouldn't exist by that logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:58 PM
2

Its not "one strip club". These are regular shows in Vegas plus rotating male strip clubs through the country. Just saw one come to my town with a couple hundred women attending.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:56 PM
2

Correct. I wouldn't call it just a "self esteem" issue but a disrespect issue. Women can understand this concept from the opposite end but deny it for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:55 PM
1

There is a very distinct number of women who aren't quality people either when they go to male strip clubs. Why aren't they demonized?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:25 PM
0

Yes but they are pretty strong anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:24 PM
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That is how feminists have defined it recently. Objectification is looking at someone as an object under dictionary terminology. Ergo, male strippers are objectified by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:23 PM
3

Yet there are a large segment of feminism women that attempt that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:22 PM
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Haven't seen the Magic Mikes stuff or Thunder Down Under in Vegas I see
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:21 PM
3

There is absolutely no evidence for such ridiculous assertions outside of moronic feminist studies courses, which are just propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:07 PM
1

Oh please, women routinely get banged out by male strippers. There are whole stories written by male strippers of women they have banged during bachlorette parties, including married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:05 PM
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Common enough they have: 1) Magic Mike movie 2) Thunder down Under 2) Chippendales 4) Magic Men: strip club group named after Magic Mike movie
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:04 PM
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There's so many, we can't keep up with the feminist hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:04 PM
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So getting banged out by a stripper when the female has a boyfriend or is married is a good thing? Feminism 101 Also, the rest of the stuff you said was unprovable bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:58 PM
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LOL where have you been?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:58 PM
1

But its ok for women to get banged out by male strippers?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:58 PM
1

Yes but that is how things are in the mainstream culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:54 PM
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The issue was discussed because of the hypocrisy of women on the issue. It is women that have made celebrity culture an issue with "fat acceptance" and the "real woman" campaign. Men on this thread have responded to female hypocrisy. Your question reverses the order of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:50 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 06:58 PM
1

cool story fake bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 06:58 PM
1

You were never TRP. Shut up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 05:29 PM
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Sexbots are a stupid topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 05:26 PM
2

http://www.businessinsider.com/science-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-2015-4#ixzz3YO784nGj No one even knows if the product actually works since it hasn't been independently verified. Also, look at the board Members. Henry Kissinger, Generals, etc. How did she meet these people and Ventura Capitalists? Look at her father's connections and how they overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 05:05 PM
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Yes at the expense of the responsible people. Why should they remain responsible if the bum who doesn't work or be responsible get the same luxuries as the average worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 03:37 PM
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Men should do such things or just drop out of the tax paying system and become parasites. Let the system implode.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:30 PM
2

Short term control, long term death. Muslims will be running things soon. Demography is destiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:30 PM
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Actually, feminists lobby the govt on "women's issues". Women vote in block (single women in particular) for female benefits. Not that complicated actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:15 PM
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They didn't close off shit long term. They took in twice as many people as they could handle in 1 week and temporarily shut things down because they couldn't handle the influx. They are going to take in over 1 million Muslims this year alone at current rates. Germany is a dying civilization with an older white population.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:14 PM
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LOL Feminists institute policies that oppress beta males, then state "well life isn't fair". Sounds like good equality to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:48 PM
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If by being invaded by Muslims and presiding over the demographic collapse of native Germans means "taking over Europe", then Merkel did a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:47 PM
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Elizabeth's company was made by her parents. She didn't have the background to make that company. It was the PHDs, who were friends with her parents, plus her parents capital, that made the company. Not self made.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:46 PM
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Marissa Meyer= rode of on the coattails of men and was an affirmative action hire. Carly Fiorina= one of the worst tech CEOs ever. Totally destroyed HP
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:45 PM
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Yes but its very disproportionate for welfare for single moms. Single moms take far more out of taxes than give.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:43 PM
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Your feminist argument isn't real world but just feminist talking points. its all fantasy land feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:43 PM
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LOL no they will just force me to pay taxes for all the single moms when they aren't married. Or if I cohabit, I will be forced to pay for her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:28 PM
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I agree but feminist articles keep telling men to "man up" or "where have all the real men gone?". These articles are about getting men to do far more for women. These same feminists say women shouldn't do anything for men as they will feel "entitled".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 11:41 AM
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I beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 10:39 PM
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Actually the second form is the norm. The first form doesn't really exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 09:23 PM
1

I beg to differ. Magic Mike shows the hypocrisy of the whole "don't judge me because I'm fat" that women want applied to them but don't apply to men. Do you understand the concept of hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 09:19 PM
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It means I can say fat women are not attractive and be militant in my support of attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:23 PM
2

Ellen is a self proclaimed feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:23 PM
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LOL typical feminist straw man. Generalizations can be made just like feminists make generalization of 3 billion men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:23 PM
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Then why can't men just enjoy good looking, big breasted women? Yet feminist women are constantly crying about objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:19 PM
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Due to the hypocrisy of their standards. They want a male in top shape when they are in the bottom of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:16 PM
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LOL nice shaming tactics since losing the debate. Now run away feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:39 PM
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No, I used feminist logic against them champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:39 PM
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Dunno the point of this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:38 PM
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Very few men find significantly overweight women attractive. I agree that the fat acceptance movement should be that we shouldn't "shame" any body type for either men or women. Then I'd support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:37 PM
2

Correct. My mistake, responding to multiple people quickly. Name any feminists that believe being "fat isn't attractive for women".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:36 PM
2

Nice straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:36 PM
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Actually, you're trying to lie about the fat acceptance movement to deny its reality. That is why we speak past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:35 PM
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Actually, all those objections are about male dominance. Some feminists think 50 shades dude should've just kissed the woman's ass more and not have been dominant over her. Everything else was fine. Being a 27y/o self made attractive billionaire wasn't the issue for them. It has nothing to do with unrealistic standards placed on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:34 PM
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Yes but its the fatty women that are DEMANDING men find them attractive. That is the problem. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:33 PM
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OH please don't find it "creepy" lol Feminists and "Fat acceptance" overlap so much, they are barely indistinguishable. Feminists who aren't part of the fat acceptance movement are like a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:32 PM
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Because feminists wrote that "Magic Mike was written by a man" implying it can't be feminist. I just reversed that logic for the 50 Shades. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:31 PM
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Actually, they do stuff like that. Look at Ellen Degenerate's show. She simultaneously supports male models in good shape while pushing the idea of "fat women are beautiful" and "women power". She is one of many examples of this crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:30 PM
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women can do whatever they want, men just don't have to be attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:27 PM
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while fat women simultaneously go see Magic Mike and 50 Shades? So men should lower their standards but never women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:25 PM
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That only shows that both sexes are held to very high physical standards. Yet it is only women who are bitching about it being "unfair to them" and EXCLUSIVELY to them while supporting the high standards placed on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:23 PM
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The feminists are divided on the issue but not because of the unrealistic male figure. The only issue they have is the "Male dominance" in the movie. The rest is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:21 PM
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Do you feel everything a man does is automatically non feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:21 PM
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I explained the hypocrisy of it that you conveniently overlooked. If men made a movement demanding acceptance of FAT men while simultaneously pushing for movies that show attractive/thin women in skimpy clothes, the hypocrisy would be very obvious to women. Funny how women never "get it" when they are being hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:20 PM
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How do we gauge the "opinions of most feminists"? Is there a poll taken on the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:16 PM
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Actually feminism and fat acceptance overlaps dramatically. 50 Shades was written by a WOMAN plus I have linked an article defending it written by a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:16 PM
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I have added a link of one feminist defending 50 shades. It was also written by a WOMAN!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:14 PM
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Might have been directed by men but it was for a female audience. Mostly women supported the movie. 50 Shades was written by a WOMAN.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:13 PM
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Just linked one of many feminists who supported the movie into my link above.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:12 PM
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Feminists are quite divided on the issue. How many "fat acceptance" feminists supported Magic Mike?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:09 PM
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Are you honestly pretending there are no overlap between women who support the "fat acceptance movement" with women who watch either Magic Mike or 50 Shades of Grey?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:08 PM
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Correct. So while women are demanding men accept "fat women as real" or "women with tats" or "don't worry about her partner count", women are simultaneously comparing men to 27 y/o self made attractive billionaires. The hypocrisy is outstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:07 PM
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Yeah its all negative now with extra shaming language heaped on. This is occurring while women's standards have GONE THROUGH THE ROOF for male status/physique/etc while women have become fat slobs who don't cook/clean/do anything for the male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:02 PM
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Then why don't they say "fat is beautiful" and "men like women with curves (fat)" if it isn't about making men like this body type? I have also posted another statement about how women are trying to lower standards for their looks while simultaneously increasing standards on men for bodies/status/etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:58 PM
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Nothing is "going over my head". You are just lying about the real reason behind the FEMALE fat acceptance movement. Men aren't falling for it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:44 PM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:44 PM
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Correct but it was working for some time right after feminism started. It is just that men are figuring out the level of the game being rigged again them and are pulling out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:43 PM
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I agree. In fact, they fake the bodies into more levels of perfection that are greater than naturally attained for men. Yet, women cry about how the standards for women are UNFAIR but ONLY WOMEN. Feminism 101
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:39 PM
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Because the whole fat movement is directed towards men finding fat women attractive. You can deny that shit all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:37 PM
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Those men would be shamed for even considering the movement. The movement is for all men considering they are demanding we accept it. Ergo, we can have an opinion on its hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:33 PM
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Its hypocrisy when the same fat women demand top tier men. Don't give me that nonsense. How many fat women want to date fat/broke/short dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:25 PM
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Why do we have to be so concerned with how they "feel about themselves"? Why aren't there any movements for the self esteem for men who aren't considered top tier?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:24 PM
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Magnello is the only truly in shape dude. The other one is a homosexual who is small in real life. Channing Tatum is photoshopped. He NEVER has top of the line beach pics. The excuses is they "stop working out after the movie" but we never get to see them in top shape. Same for Gerard Butler. He's in decent shape on the beach but never the 8 pack as in the movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:22 PM
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Yes but men don't have to be attracted to obese/fat women. Also, it is everyone's problem due to costs of health care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:20 PM
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Society shames man things including: 1) Bald men 2) Short men 3) Broke men 4) Disabled men 5) Obese men Where is the concern for these people among feminism? Where are all the short, fat male models? The hypocrisy is that women want men to overlook attraction markers but don't give a crap about the male part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:20 PM
1

Correct. Call again for another FWB/short term fling doesn't count for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:10 PM
2

You are using bullshit extremes for Brad Pitt vs Jonah Hill. We all know that dudes can look far more fit/taller/etc in made up pictures. It was done in 300 movie or for Channing Tatum. Check out their pics on the beach compared to photoshopped pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:09 PM
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That is totally false. There is much shaming of female models and pictures of "real women". It is basically an attempt to get men to be ATTRACTED to this body type rather than just "don't make fun of my appearance". Second, why isn't this movement extended to men? It appears that men are expected to be in good shape/status/etc. There are no equivalent acceptance movements for unemployed men, disabled men or short men. The same women who want "acceptance" for fat women will diss short men, broke …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:08 PM
1

Thats bullshit. That is the level of guys who will bang them, which is MUCH HIGHER than the men who will do the LTR thing with them. LTR is the only real measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 03:54 PM
1

Its hard to tell from that picture. We would have to see him in the streets with other people. He might be shorter than obvious or lacking in true muscle mass. That is a made up picture that can be photoshopped as well giving hi the best possible lighting. Also, SMW depends on their "alpha" position compared to other men in the street. Guys like Jason Statham, Vin Diesel, etc aren't as conventionally attractive as these dudes but can pull far hotter women than these guys who look kind've fruity/…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 03:41 PM
24

MGTOW isn't "cowardly". It is a rational response to the current economic/marriage environment. Sure, we would all like the female to be responsible for her duties in the relationship. However, the society is strongly preventing this from happening. This is particularly true as women have the vote. Ergo, you have the choice of marriage under version 2.0 or boycott. MGTOWs can support changes in the laws while boycotting marriage. That is the most sensible course of action under the current laws.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 02:22 PM
5

Fucking golden. This guy sounds like a douche lol
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 02:26 PM
1

Good post. The lessons section is very important.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 04:21 PM
0

I think there is still a SMALL segment of women in Western culture that the TRP doesn't apply to. Those are the "unicorn" women that men need to lock down.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 11:45 AM
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I don't see how this is your fault though. Nothing wrong here. Very good that you told him about the slut. He would have no right to be mad at you over this. She is the bad person here.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 03:01 PM
0

This is an old post that has been circulated around finance circles in NYC for a long period of time. It obviously wasn't written by the CEO of JP Morgan but likely by some anonymous finance guy. It is a very accurate assessment.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 10:57 AM
0

The CEO of JP Morgan would never write this stuff. Jamie Diamond would NEVER put himself on the line like that. However, this is an old discussion which is totally accurate.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 10:56 AM
1

Cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:55 PM
1

I think this is a joke. Can't be real.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 02:36 PM
-2

Very accurate assessment. Good job on this post.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 10:28 AM
2

Fix your teeth. Its worth it. End of discussion.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 10:14 AM
12

Great post. I've been saying this for years. They don't include divorced stats into the equation. Once you add in ALL marriages, it is very likely that lifespan decreases for men.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 10:26 AM
1

That is correct. Don't need all this bullshit
/r/TheRedPill15/08/15 03:34 AM
11

Correct assessment I have been saying the same thing with these clowns. There is no "hypocrisy" in opinion here. The men often would've liked a more "traditional" relationship like the 1950s. But women have decided to be hypergamous sluts that whore it up until their early to mid 30s. After getting banged out for 10 plus years, they decide to look for a "provider" male at this point. The TRP basically gives the reality of this game and how to navigate through it.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/15 01:10 AM
26

Changing clothes at the gym shows "dominance" lol Love some of these ideas but they are a little dumb. There are tons of rich guys swimming in vagina that don't have to use these techniques.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 06:20 PM
9

This story is too good to be true and totally TRP. I am a little suspect about them being so perfect. Are these real or just fake trolls? Regardless, Barry is right to get a polygraph. He should end the relationship ASAP since she lied about her sexual history.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 03:11 PM
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There is no rape culture in USA. There is a FALSE RAPE culture among feminists that allow women to make false accusations against men they don't like.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 11:54 AM
2

Yeah there is no economic incentive for "beta males" to work under this environment. I have always known this would lead to the collapse of the society but I love the academic writing to support this assertion. Great stuff.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 04:01 PM
1

There is nothing impressive about the OP. Getting good grades in what? Women's studies? What college? Dodge Challenger is nothing impressive. Tons of people "play guitar" and "work out". Unless you are super shredded like a bodybuilder, its not particularly impressive enough to post about on here. Also, we have no ability to verify any of this nonsense on the internet. Stop the braggart shit. That is why people think you're douche.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 03:56 PM
-4

Its a diss term used by guys in the gym.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 03:54 PM
2

GREAT ARTICLE!!! Where in the whole attached progress and decline pdf does this appear? I am trying to find it in 144 pages of info. Is it the part that starts at page 21?
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 01:59 PM
10

Cool story bro Sounds like a phaggot wrote this, but sounds like a cool story.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 01:24 PM
3

AVFM really doesn't do anything that reddit MRA, reddit red pill, countless youtube personalities, etc don't already do. The argument really should be WHY GIVE ANYTHING TO AVFM?
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:33 AM
2

Both were well controlled under the "patriarchy"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 02:19 PM
13

Sounds like the average American white female has become a whore. Kinda pathetic actually. No country run by real men would even allow women to go to syrup clubs. Female sexuality is too destructive to allow free reign. Single Mommies, divorce, etc is inevitable
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 09:17 PM
1

Very accurate post about the double standards noted in this culture. Luckily, most of the world is still male dominated. After the fall of the Anglo world (coming soon), this will go back to the normal state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 03:26 PM
1

Very good analysis. The article is basically fraudulent because it looks at the top 5% of men on Tinder and acts like it is the norm. Sure, the top alphas may be able to bang tons of women off of tinder (skeptical that the numbers are accurate though), however, the vast majority of men are losing out. The article's only concern is the female. Forget society, marriage, the broader culture and especially beta men!
/r/TheRedPill07/08/15 03:43 PM
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Sounds good but its difficult to get top level roles as a White male. With all the Affirmative Action for women and minorities, most men are lucky to even survive college. A lot of this stuff is easier said than done.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/15 04:26 PM
4

This is how I handled an ex girlfriend who I eventually just gave the boot. She started getting entitled and had some "superiority" issue. I gave her the boot and she has never been able to do better.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/15 03:39 PM
3

The concept of "abuse" is a very nebulous belief that gives women a "get out jail free card". It excuses their infidelity or other bad behavior and justifies their alimony/asset rape of the male. He was "controlling" or "abusive" so she had to cheat on him and take his money!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 11:16 PM
2

Notice how you ignore the study on sexual partners and correlation with divorce rates. Also, how do you define "abuse". Often women will claim "verbal abuse" as an excuse to divorce their beta husband and steal his money. She will often claim she "cheated" because he was "abusive" as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:58 PM
2

Where is the "bias"? The studies prove this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:43 PM
1

Maybe you should read some of the comment sections lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:43 PM
3

The broader stats of decreasing marriage rates, increasing divorce rates as a percentage of marriage and record single mother rates are testament to this reality. The majority of women in their 20s have children out of wedlock. It is safe to assume this is the MAJORITY of women then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 08:26 PM
3

Correct. NYTimes is a feminist paper. Therefore, it publishes "anything fit to print the feminist narrative".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 08:25 PM
4

Getting married to a teenage single mom with no education or income or a used up post wall mid 30s woman who just got off the CC aren't great options. This isn't shocking news to any TRP male. The problem is that the proportion of women in these categories are very high and probably are the majority of American females.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 08:22 PM
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Actually it easily debunks it using national database surveys. It basically fully crushes the NYTImes actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 08:15 PM
2

So basically the best female is a 22 y/o with a low partner count and some college education who is more religious and doesn't get pregnant out of wedlock. What a shock lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 08:14 PM
4

There are blue pill women attempting to argue that the divorce rate is "declining". This is an attempt to get men to believe marriage isn't really that bad of a deal. Notice its always the feminists, women's groups and "conservative" focus on the family that are attempting to CONVINCE MEN that marriage is so good. If marriage is so good, why do men instinctively avoid it and need to be convinced?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 07:49 PM
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Interesting how you don't refute the argument but just strawman it. There stats from the "wordpress" article are from multiple other sources. Look at it. It completely debunks the NYTimes argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 07:48 PM
2

Women can't be depended on in America. The culture itself has eliminated all female obligation to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 06:34 PM
1

Yeah doesn't bother me. Just wouldn't get into any LTR/Marriage situation with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 06:37 PM
3

I have already shown this in another post. The Census Bureau stats showed approximately 50% without taking into account California due to "not reporting". It is well known estimate for divorce are HIGHER in cali than nationwide. Furthermore, due to declining overall marriage rates, there was a MYTH that divorce rates weer decline because total divorces were declining. When you do the ratio between new marriages vs divorces per year, the ratio has gone UP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 06:35 PM
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I didn't say "need to". Im speaking about the risk/benefit ratio for younger successful men to women with less money. 60% rate is the divorce rate for the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 06:30 PM
1

They are still asking for money from "subscribers". What does AVFM deliver? It doesn't do anything in the real world. Without having a conference, it is just an online blog. I didn't say he's an "alternative". I said Chapin does EVERYTHING AVFM does these days. So does Aaron Clarey. They both have blogs and youtube channels. That is all AVFM does as well except it wants "subscribers" to give them thousands of dollars as well to run the blog.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 06:28 PM
1

Im speaking about America NOT GREECE
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 06:00 PM
1

Bernard Chapin isn't asking for 100s of thousands of dollars a year yet does about as much as AVFM. That is the BIG difference.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 05:41 PM
5

Halle Berry should PAY HER CHILD SUPPORT! Shes a DEADBEAT MOTHER!
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:43 PM
1

I know you're on Elam's payroll but I'm sorry to inform you, AVFM does essentially nothing. If AVFM was gone tomorrow, there would be plenty of other men's groups. Also, Elam is far from the biggest men's "activist" even on youtube. Sandman is way bigger than Elam on youtube. So is Luimarco.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:42 PM
1

Typical lying woman playing the "victim" card Feminism 101
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:30 PM
1

LOL Dave Futrelle actually quoted me when I knocked AVFM's conference. I am not a big fan of his website. I am just stating that AVFM is one of MANY men's based websites. It isn't really anything else. AVFM is trying to pretend we should donate money to them but they don't do anything that reddit men's rights, MGTOW forums, Return of Kings, etc don't already do. Why donate to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:28 PM
1

Not biased at all. I don't see how AVFM is superior to men's rights reddit, considering this place gets far more internet traffic than AVFM. AVFM doesn't do anything besides online articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:15 PM
1

Basically they won't do shit besides write some crappy articles on their online website. They are basically nothing more than a website. Inferior to reddit men's rights, Return of the Kings, etc. AVFM has officially become third rate.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 01:59 PM
1

They can't even get a conference going. All they have become is an online blog. How are they superior to reddit men's rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:53 PM
1

AVFM has become worthless to all MRAs. They get nothing done.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:48 PM
4

I think an actual real life representation for the MRA is critical. Online stuff is a nice "supplement" but it can never take the place of real life conferences and activism.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 10:53 AM
2

Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 10:52 AM
1

He left AVFM due to "health reasons" and "needing to take his activism in a different direction".
/r/MensRights31/07/15 03:09 AM
0

Two guys pocketing 120K isn't shit. Also, the website should pay for itself through ad revenue if it has ANY viewership.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:58 AM
0

It was all AVFM cronies. The bigger personalities weren't going to show up. No GWW, Aaron Clarey, Molyneaux, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:38 AM
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Thats really the MGTOW angle. The "MRA" angle is supposed to be real life activism and changes in the favor of men. AVFM was the "leader" of this movement. AVFM has become a total and utter failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:37 AM
0

I think its more due to poor planning, overpriced tickets and a very poor speaker lineup.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:37 AM
0

He doesn't pay the workers anything. They are all "volunteers". Look up what JTO said about this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:36 AM
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Yeah except that his fundraising has collapsed, the conference broke apart and even Dean Esmay split. Greed without any substantive real world effect will collapse in the long run. I had very high hopes for AVFM just before last year's conference. I felt we were finally going to get somewhere in the real world. Very disappointing.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:35 AM
-1

So you're cool with no conference or anything else in the real world? Cool cyber MRA brah.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:28 AM
1

Yes but a conference is CRITICAL for MRA's to meet in the real world. It is truly disappointing that AVFM is unable to achieve an annual conference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:27 AM
1

AVFM supposed raised 160K last year. Also, they had gotten over 60K for their "conference" at the VFW, which had to cost only about 10-20K to run. It doesn't cost much to run a website.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:18 AM
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Actually, Im a big supporter of both MRA and MGTOW content. I am subbed to Chapin, Bar Bar, Stardusk, Sagon of Akkad, Sandman, etc. Just am not happy with AVFM's direction. I am expressing concern since AVFM claims to be the biggest MRA group. I was truly hoping it would have some real world impact or at the very least an annual conference. Doesn't it upset you that the MRA can't even get together an annual conference? It would be nice to have something where MRA's can meet in the real world.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:16 AM
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AVFM is considered the biggest "men's rights" group out there. Can't believe how bad Elam has been in leading it for the last two years.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:06 AM
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This is just feminist damage control. They will be back to their normal fake rape accusations against men (particularly White men) shortly.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:05 AM
1

I will NOT sleep with almost any woman. I would NOT sleep with an obese women, an extremely ugly woman, smelly woman, down syndrome woman, etc. Shit, I've turned down plenty of women for sex in the past lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:02 AM
2

Correct. Women don't like "generalizations" when it comes to slutty women are known to make terrible partners. But they will constantly "generalize" men they deem to not be up to snuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:18 PM
1

Who knows if she really didn't "like" doing those things with Mark or it is some later rationalization. It is very possible that Mark gave her the boot later in their "relationship" for a younger, hotter model. She could've been highly sexually attracted to Mark but got the boot. This forced her to "settle" for her new husband, who she "rationalizes" that she really "didn't like the sex with Mark" anyway. However, this doesn't change the reality of her beta bucks husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:35 PM
1

Thats assuming she is telling the truth about the situation. She might've WANTED to do it with him and enjoyed it. Marky probably gave her the boot a few years later for a younger, hotter model. She likely "settled" for her beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:33 PM
1

Yes it is but you made it sound different than that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 10:57 PM
1

Thats incorrect that you can "be with a hotter guy" in terms of commitment. The "hotter" guy basically just wants you added to his harem for a short period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 09:53 PM
1

lol ok then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:17 PM
1

there are lots? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 03:16 AM
1

How can they differentiate between the older age of the female vs the male? That is illogical to determine who contributes which
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 03:16 AM
1

lol this ignores everything I wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 03:15 AM
1

lol 8 figures? ha ha ha ha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 03:13 AM
3

How much money did this "ex rugby" player have? If he has little money and no future job prospects, he isn't exactly a great catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 11:35 AM
2

That is quite uncommon lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:34 AM
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I doubt it. They are just weak manginas who think they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:23 AM
1

That is because marriage rates have COLLAPSED
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:07 AM
1

LOL yeah and from the looks of Hollywood, the women seem to still be flocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:01 AM
1

I find very few women who stick and around help to support a man when he becomes unemployed. Usually, they just divorce them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:01 AM
0

At 10 years its only 39% increase. Thats minimal compared to number of sexual partners effects on divorce for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:21 AM
1

Correction: no woman using her own EGGs with IVF after 46.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:20 AM
2

Citations please. Also, increased percentages in VERY rare diseases is still VERY RARE. Ergo, a very small increase in something that is very rare is dramatic in terms of percentages. Its how people basically lie with percentages when making decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:19 AM
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You can be as skeptical as possible. Just prove different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:18 AM
-1

yes women hit the wall unlike men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:03 AM
-1

You can pull women in 20 years younger if you got cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:58 PM
-3

how long do those marriages last? I almost always see the female become "resentful" of the man if she earns more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:58 PM
-2

correct, those are the highest divorce rates
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:52 PM
-3

no we don't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:52 PM
-1

Actually its not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:46 PM
-1

We know about comparisons between male and female fertility declines. Men have a much more gradual decline in fertility compared to women. That is an established FACT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:46 PM
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Women VERY rarely support men financially or bring much to the table financially compared to the man. If the older woman wants to be a sugar mom that is fine but she still has very low fertility. Very few women are willing to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:45 PM
-1

Most people just read the headlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:44 PM
-1

True
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:40 PM
-2

Depends on the situation. Most women in their 30s are worthless and bring no money to the table. Ergo, they offer no benefit over younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:39 PM
1

We know plenty about male fertility. That is just fact. Sperm quality "declines" in a minuscule amount that has almost no real world implications. COUNT, maybe you come from some rare "super family" but by definition that is very uncommon and anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:38 PM
0

4 per 100,000? lol Wow that sounds promising lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:34 PM
-1

Anyone can die at any age. That doesn't give a good reason for an older successful male to go for older women when they can get YOUNGER women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:32 PM
0

Read the headlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:31 PM
1

A better cared for offspring in terms of resources/stability is going to do far better than a poorly cared for one. Ergo, many older men have much more provision capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:30 PM
2

That is with someone else's eggs, which is phony. She never gave birth to her OWN children. There are no documented cases above 46 for women using their own eggs PERIOD.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:29 PM
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Correct. They very SMALL differences in fertility and risks for older men are usually OUTWEIGHED BY A LARGE MARGIN by older mens resources, status, etc. This is particularly true for athletic, successful "older" men. There is no equivalency for women. Women have a dramatic decline in fertility in their 30s. Their fertility is far more tenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:27 PM
0

I never said it wasn't. Just am being more honest about the "risks" than feminists who strongly overhype them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:23 PM
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The only argument you can make is "they have things in common", which is a very weak argument. Men can easily find things to do "in common" with women >10 years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:21 PM
-1

I've found her the best so far. Everything is going very well with her and myself. I have found her far less jaded than women in their 30s who rode the CC hard and now are looking for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:17 PM
0

Yes but I'm speaking about men who make more than their wives and are more financially successful. What benefit is there in an older vs younger wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:17 PM
3

I have already linked the articles to some feminist articles in the mainstream media that have strongly overhyped the "male biological clock". Just google it. Also, ask any OB/GYN about drop off in successful fertility in terms of IVF in women 35 and over. It is DRAMATIC.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:16 PM
-1

Why is that? She is far more mature than my ex gf who was 34.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:15 PM
0

A successful male can attract younger females with his status/position. Why should he go for an older woman with significantly less fertility prospects? Illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:14 PM
2

LOL we know plenty about male fertility. We know for a fact that men can have children into old age UNLIKE women. There has never been a reported woman having a child after 46 using her own eggs EVEN with IVF. http://www.bionews.org.uk/page_424607.asp The vast majority of women lose fertility far earlier than that. IVF has very low chance of success for women in their 40s and even later 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:13 PM
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It is debatable if the slight increase in problems for older fathers offsets the many financial benefits older and more established fathers provide. If it was a big increase in REAL incidence, then I would consider your belief correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:10 PM
1

Im 35 with a 23 y/o girlfriend. She is great and that is pragmatic for me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:09 PM
0

It empowers a woman by scaring men in their 30s into marriage. If a man truly believes he better having children "really soon or go infertile" like a female, he will make far different choices than if he realizes he has only a very small decline in fertility that is very gradual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:08 PM
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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=118101 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/mother-tongue/10665088/Will-men-finally-hear-the-ticking-of-the-biological-clock-Hurrah.html A few of the feminist articles written to hype up some phony male biological clock in mainstream media sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:08 PM
0

That is a correct statement. However, feminists have been trying to pretend that there are equivalent fertility problems for men and women in their 30s, which is a categorical LIE.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:03 PM
3

Why not have kids with a younger wife if possible? Successful men can usually pull that off. Whats the downside of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:59 PM
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Correct, yet feminists have been hyping this stuff up big time in an attempt "scare" men in their 30s. I really believe this is an attempt to get them to "settle" due to women's distinct biological clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:55 PM
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This is in "general" these comments. There are plenty of younger men that have far less healthy children than "older" men. The differences in "health" status for older fathers is very minimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:54 PM
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Incorrect, you used the typical feminist tactic of scaremongering "older" fathers. I have already refuted the veracity of these claims. Lets see you debate the topic. Women have FAR MORE RISKS when it comes to fertility due to distinct drop offs in their 30s and menopause UNLIKE MEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:52 PM
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Yet feminists keep attempting to quote these studies to prove men have issues with fertility and genetic defects like women. It isn't "essentially the same thing". Women have a CLEAR drop off in fertility in their 30s until menopause. There is no equivalent change in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:46 PM
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Correct. But the feminists keep hyping it up in man of the comment sections claiming that older dates are this big "risk", which is basically bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:43 PM
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There is no "wall" for men unless they have a disease. Men can essentially have children until they die. There is a "wall" for women called MENOPAUSE.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:43 PM
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Yes but effectively it is irrelevant then and far overhyped. Men have no drop off in fertility or real effective increase in autism rates. Ergo, its deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:39 PM
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They do? What is the chances of a father over 40 having a child with autism, schizophrenia, etc? You need to define "much greater".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:13 PM
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incorrect, its a big drop off in their 30s UNLIKE men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:09 PM
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Im speaking about successful, high status males dating patterns. Ergo, it applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:08 PM
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LOL the answer is obvious. Plus the fertility differences are minimal for healthy men. That is just feminist propaganda that is attempting to basically scare men in their 30s to marry women in their 30s. Read the actual stats. Fertility decline is very minimal for men and a very slow decline throughout time. Men like Clint Eastwood had no problem having children when he was in his 60s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 07:21 PM
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Why wouldn't it be biological when younger women are more fertile? That is illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:49 PM
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Correct, which negates the premise of the author.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:49 PM
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LOL she is MUCH younger than him plus very accomplished. Nice try though champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:25 PM
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I am only speaking about one postulate of TRP. Not the entirety of all "red pill theories".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:24 PM
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That doesn't refute my SMP discussion about men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:24 PM
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Incorrect. Many older A list celebrities are marrying far younger and less successful but very attractive females.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:23 PM
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Incorect strawman. I postulated that after they become SUCCESSFUL and over 35, they USUALLY marry significantly younger females. Men who married before success or in their 20s don't count. Men in their 20s will want to marry women in their 20s (20s is the most desirable age)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:23 PM
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A lot of the world's greatest inventions were made by men who never married or even had children. How does this explain Tesla, Leibniz, Newton, Einstein, etc? Einstein is the only one with kids and marriage but I highly doubt he was trying to impress the female he married by doing the theory of relativity. Furthermore, many women aren't impressed by this stuff. They are more impressed by "alpha" behavior patterns unless inventing stuff makes money. Most of the best inventors/scientists never got…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:20 PM
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Mercedes, Gym, Career, etc. Spent over 100K so far. Maybe women should buy me dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:49 AM
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The divorce rate hasn't fallen anywhere near as fast as the MARRIAGE RATE. Ergo, the actual divorce rate among the fewer marriages left is probably the same. The decrease in total number of divorces is due to drop in total number of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:40 AM
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There is a distinct difference between promiscuous women and low n count women. The difference between my ex 34 year old girlfriend who had a higher n count vs my current 23 gf with a low n count is palatable. The older one was more "sarcastic" and "drama filled". She was always looking for fights and to talk shit. After some time, I had to end the relationship due to her disrespectful nature. I find this a common finding amount high n count women. They are unable to effectively pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:36 AM
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Yet you can't give one example of an ALREADY successful male marrying a female around his age when he is 35 plus without her being an A list actress/rich. Ergo, I have won the debate easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:29 AM
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Funny how Holly Madison was dying to marry him and have children with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:28 AM
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My friends are all successful men who think the way that I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:27 AM
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We are speaking about the type of women that successful men go for. The "cougar" effect is being attempted by female celebrities these days to stay relevant. Notice how none of these relationships have been working. Halle Berry, Demi Moore, etc have all collapsed quite quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:26 AM
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Thats irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:25 AM
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lol strawman and ad homs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 01:14 AM
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I don't agree with that TRP perspective if they say "money" doesn't matter at all for women. Money matters LESS for women than men. However, men would prefer to marry a woman with money than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 01:13 AM
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lol cool story brah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 01:11 AM
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correct
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 01:02 AM
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Yes they do lol I don't agree with that statement of TRP. They just matter less to men than women usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 01:01 AM
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I have already talked about Ryan Gosling. He is with Eva Mendes who was ALREADY RICH AND FAMOUS. Affleck s getting divorced: http://radaronline.com/photos/ben-affleck-jennifer-garner-divorce-rumors-moving-trucks-photos/photo/1071128/ Lets see who he dates after he divorces. Will be VERY interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 01:01 AM
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thats another question
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 01:00 AM
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cool story bro no go worship your feminist overlord and shh. Let the real men speak around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 12:59 AM
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There has been no retorts yet I have given many examples of men who are ALREADY SUCCESSFUL's dating history and marriage history in Hollywood among A list actors. The only "counters" showed men who were already married BEFORE they were successful or to other A list females. Ergo, I have been proven correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 12:59 AM
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haven't gotten beat on anything so far
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 12:58 AM
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nice straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 12:58 AM
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Women are willing to date them though huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 12:18 AM
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They usually do date up when they can. But the problem is unless they are younger/hot at the time, the successful men wouldn't be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:51 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNEUtN21cuU
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:50 PM
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If it quacks like a duck
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:43 PM
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Make your own post asking that. This is a separate question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:39 PM
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The rumors have been there for years. It was well documented during his broadway career. Also, his "wife" never had biological children for him: http://celebritybabies.people.com/2012/12/18/adoption-miscarriage-infertility-hugh-jackman-katie-couric-appearance/ So apparently, he married a much older woman who couldn't have children and had rumors of being gay as long as he was on broadway. When there is that much smoke ....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:35 PM
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I have given many examples as well. Now please give counter examples of famous/successful Hollywood men MARRYING women AFTER THEY HAVE BECOME SUCCESSFUL that aren't significantly younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:30 PM
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Name only the ones who married women AFTER they were successful to post CC women who weren't FAMOUS/RICH. I have given far more examples of A list level actors who married FAR younger. I have proven your examples to be false because they are including mostly people who married before they were famous/successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:20 PM
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Most of these cases are men who married women "around their age" before they were famous/successful. I am speaking about ALREADY ESTABLISHED successful men and marriage patterns. Chris Pratt married Ann well before he was famous/successful. He was basically an unknown quantity which had long odds of becoming famous. These women got with these guys BEFORE they were successful If you marry some random guy and hit the lottery that is far different than marrying the guy AFTER he is successful. Under…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:13 PM
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There is no "burn". How many of these men married these women in their 30s after riding the cock carousel? How many of these men married these women BEFORE they were famous? If a guy was not famous/rich before he married the female, it doesn't count. He wasn't "successful" till later. If these men get divorced after becoming successful, we can almost guarantee the VAST MAJORITY will marry much younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:10 PM
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Yes if she used to be a 10/10 in her 20s and takes care of herself, she will decrease to about a 6 to 7 out of 10. Very few women were 10/10 in their 20s and can't expect that result.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:07 PM
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Come on lol That is well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:07 PM
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Sofia Vergara is worth FAR MORE MONEY than Joe. That doesn't negate anything I have written.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:06 PM
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That is their value sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:06 PM
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Yet feminists attempt to deny this reality everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 10:49 PM
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Aaron Taylor is a B level to C level actor. You seriously aren't putting him in the same category as Leonardo DiCaprio are you? Name one movie that he was the MAIN star in that was a big hit. I have evidence. Its called reading the daily mail gossip crap whereby they talk about the "dating life" of the Hollywood men in their 40s and above. Almost without exception, they are dating FAR YOUNGER women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 10:48 PM
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Also, studies show men find women in their 20s the most attractive. Ergo, men in their 20s will want to marry women in their 20s. There won't be an age gap during that time period. It started developing dramatically for successful men in their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:56 PM
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Who? You are listing unknown people. I am speaking about WELL KNOWN A list or very high B list acts. Never heard of the vast majority of these people. Also, Heidi Klum is the RICHEST supermodel out there. Not some random CC rider. That confirms my statement. I have already stated "CC riders that have NO MONEY!". The claim by feminists was that CC riders can basically screw away their 20s with nothing to show and get married to a top of the line guy by mid 30s to men around their age. I have refu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:55 PM
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Jackman is clearly gay. That is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:53 PM
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Kinda like feminist logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:52 PM
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I have stated they are dating women >15 years younger. That just confirms my statement. Nothing has been refuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:52 PM
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Yes if the guy is in his 50s or 60s. That is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:50 PM
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I already stated for men out of their 20s and 30s. Men are wiling to marry women "around their age" when they are YOUNGER! Ryan Gosling is dating an A list actress. I have already explained that as the exception to the rule for a CC rider. Feminists like yourself are claiming successful men are running after CC riders who are "their own age or older without money". By definition, the man is the more successful one. Ergo, Ryan Gosling's situation doesn't count. You can "firmly believe" whatever y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:50 PM
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Yeah but with at least a 15 year age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:47 PM
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Hugh Jackman is gay lol. Come on lol. Brad Pitt didn't marry an unknown CC rider. I already prefaced my comment as marrying a CC rider that had NO MONEY! She is another A list actress! Never heard of Maxwell. Never heard of Aaron Taylor. Neither are well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:47 PM
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Ashton Kutcher confirms TRP due to divorcing Demi and getting a younger wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 08:45 PM
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This is often true in finance and most other industries with highly successful men. Hollywood is an example that can be used due to most people knowing their names.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 07:05 PM
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Yes but BPs attempt to argue that "successful men" often go for women of equivalent age and who have ridden the CC. Hollywood actors negate this trend and confirm the TRP perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 07:04 PM
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Correct. Hollywood men just confirm the importance of youth/beauty for women. Once hollywood men get out of their 30s, they almost ALWAYS date women in their 20s to early 30s. Hugh Hefner got rid of playboy playmates after they hit 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 06:46 PM
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The basic economics of the marketplace doesn't change. Tinder only increases their chances of having short term sexual relations NOT good long term, high status males. Women are more "flakey" due to modern feminist brainwashing and "special snowflake" syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 06:16 PM
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Problems with this story include: 1) One story doesn't negate the overall trend for the wall. 2) She appears to be marrying "down" considering she was theoretically dating guys who made "7 figures" 3) Her "modeling" days were very third rate. She only did some small time gigs. 4) No one can actually know the guy is making 200K per year besides him claiming this reality The biggest problem I have is the claims by the author that she sees "Hollywood men" who are "attractive and handsome" constantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 06:12 PM
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Yeah this or they won't get married to these women lol Maybe this isn't a "reality" these men want to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 11:30 AM
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Are you arguing that Muslims are converting to Western ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 06:00 PM
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So are you arguing the chances don't go up dramatically if you sleep around to have an STD?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:59 PM
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I don't see much assimilation in the large Mexican and Islamic communities in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:59 PM
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I am 35
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:58 PM
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Its a worse idea to ride the CC until 35 y/o then demand a rich prince charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:57 PM
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Have any statistics that negate my assertions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:57 PM
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Stop being angry and disrupting the forum with inane comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:19 PM
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True that but thats a feminist for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:17 PM
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The sexually active was about infertility due to increased STD rates. Do I even need to go into this with Tinder and other online sources? Also, Down's syndrome is due to female age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:17 PM
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I discussed this in my previous post. Its the mentality of: 1) Riding the CC because she has "all the time in the world" while in her 20s. She is "exploring herself" and getting "a career". 2) Expecting a top shelf man in her 30s after running through many guys and demanding a "nonjudgemental man". 3) Family, Children and Husband take a backseat to her career and "happiness"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:15 PM
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Not really. Most of the world isn't adopting them outside of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:14 PM
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More sexually active with multiple partners= more likely to have STDs= increased infertility risk in females.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:13 PM
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That was an example some other poster used in a previous post. She said it was "common" for women in their mid 30s to have this option even if they are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:11 PM
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Easy to say when you're young. Give it some time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:10 PM
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No "gloom" story. The West will just be replaced. Happened many times throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:09 PM
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I have already discussed this in detail in my previous posting. Feminism isn't the SOLE reason but it is a MAIN reason. Ergo, the West is finished.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 04:45 PM
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Yes until the Islamics take over Europe due to birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 03:59 PM
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It is still a VERY low number. Far greater than 1% of men in their 50s have autistic children. Compare this to women in their late 30s and up. These women have far more problems with infertility (especially if too sexually active), defects such as Down Syndrome, etc. The female biological clock is also TOTAL at menopause. Men only have a gradual decline but can have children until death (unless they have a major medical problem). Ergo, men just don't have the same fertility decline as women. Sor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 03:59 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 03:56 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 03:55 PM
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Yes everyone is "different" but generalizations concerning female fertility and attractiveness are possible to be made. Most policies for society must be done through "generalizations" and not based upon the "exception".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 02:44 PM
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I have lived in NYC my whole life. Never saw a "built doctor" go for a fatty that was older than himself. All my doc friends date younger, thinner women. Where do you live in NYC?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 02:10 PM
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They find "commitment" with much lower quality men than in their 20s. I have seen plenty of spinsters up to their 50s already. Mr Big NEVER goes for SJP. Stop watching Sex and the City.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 01:59 PM
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I've never seen this before in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 01:59 PM
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I don't agree with Roosh on this issue. Most women in their 30s (unless they are the rare one that keep her looks after partying/tanning, etc) have far lower value on the SMP than in their 20s. The men my age (30s) are dating women in their 20s if they are in the higher SMP (top 20%). The women in their 30s are having to "settle" with lower value men and not usually the top 20%. Ergo, that is the "consequence" of them riding the CC. I am a 35 y/o male dating a 23 y/o female.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 01:52 PM
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I have never seen this before. Very rare lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 01:46 PM
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Every type of hatred group believes they are trying to be about "equality". The Nazis thought that the Germans were "oppressed" and "thought they acted in good faith". Same with every type of group that really wants supremacy but claims that it is really "fair".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 04:03 PM
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How come there is no Affirmative Action for men in college, who are far outnumbered by women by that logic? What about teaching jobs? Or OB/GYNS for men? Why do we only need affirmative action in areas women represented? Also, the concept of "financial abortion" is what the TRP people are speaking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 01:11 AM
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How about we get govt out of marriage. We can have each party sign an agreement as to what the "fault" aspects are towards marriage coming apart and the monetary/child outcomes afterwards. Or we just end all alimony/child support/ half of assets after divorce going to the "poorer" party.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:29 PM
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This is all your opinion that they joined just for "land and money". Many of them remained loyal to their previous barbarian tribes and were anti Rome regardless of money. Kinda like immigration in America in 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:26 PM
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Everything I wrote about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:24 PM
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Nice straw man bro
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:10 PM
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The history channel gives the PC version of history. Do you honestly think they would blame women or feminism for anything in history?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:09 PM
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1) If women are over 50% of college students, why do they get preference? Maybe 50 years ago this happened but surely not now. Do they get preference FOREVER now? This would be classified as permanent discrimination against men as second class citizens. 2) Yet all the laws that benefit women in divorce are being ACTIVELy fought by feminists to be KEPT while taking out all the laws that were used in favor of men. Isn't that coincidental huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:09 PM
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If Roman tactics were so poor, why did so many Barbarians joint the Roman Army to learn proper tactics?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:06 PM
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What is the rational for giving women affirmative action though? They are over 50% of college students now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 04:31 PM
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Why didn't Rome rely on these types of soldiers when it was at its Peak in power? Are you denying the Barbarians serving in large numbers caused them to learn Roman tactics and defeat them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:03 PM
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I didn't say feminism was the only reason. I said it was part of the reason in my further explanations on the subject. There was a bachelor tax that was specifically instituted on men due to declining birth rates and anti marriage attitude that developed in the decline of Rome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:01 PM
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They had the concept of no fault divorce. It wasn't as bad as modern feminism. Modern feminism has basically never existed. Its an experiment that we will determine the outcome of. So far, it has been a disaster for marriage rates, birth rates, economic production of men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:58 PM
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I agree with all of that. Hedonism. homosexual, bestiality, corruption, feminism, etc destroyed Roman morality. Feminism is just one of many probs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:48 PM
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They could be "behind" because they choose easier lifestyles and easier majors. Also, women are >50% of college students now. I fail to see how they are "behind" in college when they are >50%. Why are they still getting affirmative action in college when they are the majority unless its about supremacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:46 PM
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I can't ascribe motives since they are "claiming" they are about equality publicly. However. the effect is definite female supremacy and marginalization of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:34 PM
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Ok so giving women preference in all the areas isn't supremacy? How would you define it? When it was applied to any other racial group it was always called "racism" in the past. How does this differ from the previous "white supremacy". Similar tactics were used to subjugate minorities in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:33 PM
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What were the "spiritual" aspects of the decline? Why did they have to use foreign mercenaries latter in their empire? It is a complex issue but thee is no real explanation as to the REASONS for the spiritual decline and usage of mercenaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:32 PM
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Yes they did. They weakened the empire though economics and birth rate. Kinda like America 2015 and its quickly changing demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:04 PM
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No less reliable than the "history channel" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:02 PM
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Well the effect is the same regardless of "motives". Feminism has turned into female supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:02 PM
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1) Affirmative Action: female PREFERENCE in admission to college and jobs. Preference= supremacy 2) Divorce laws give strong PREFERENCE to women I won't list them all again. Anytime there is systemic discrimination in favor of women over men its supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:01 PM
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I have just linked another article discussing it in further details. I have looked at the Wiki links and History Channel links already on this issue. Yes it was uncommon to hire mercenaries in such large numbers. The reason was low birth rates that forced them to rely on foreigners to do their fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:00 PM
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Another great link discussing the decline of Rome and Feminism further https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/feminism-responsible-for-the-fall-of-rome/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:59 PM
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I have given many examples. This is the position of NOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:50 PM
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Thats not a rebuttal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:46 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:46 PM
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The history channel won't list feminism as a cause lol. Also, everything written were symptoms of feminism. Why did the Roman army require Barbarians for their legions? Why did their birth rate decline so readily they required outsiders to join their military? Why was there economic instability? There is no discussion about why that started in that article. It just says it happened. Ergo, its incomplete and doesn't want to delve into the issue in uncomfortable and politically incorrect territory…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:46 PM
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Rome was already on the decline before Christianity. You don't think no fault divorce had anything to do with Roman Birth Rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:43 PM
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Dont underestimate their true viewpoint. They can't just come out and say they want preference for women. They aren't that stupid. Everyone knows women are over 50% of college students but they still give them preference in college admissions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:43 PM
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In essence, everything feminism promotes is to the benefit of women at the EXPENSE of men. That by definition is female supremacy not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:58 AM
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This question is a joke right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:31 AM
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Because divorce laws are far worse in America than in many European countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:18 AM
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"After divorce, the typical man held 2.5 times the amount of wealth held by the typical woman. While this seems large in percentage terms, the difference in absolute dollars is relatively small – about $5,100." This is speaking about people with few assets during marriage. This doesn't include successful people in the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 12:28 AM
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Problems with this include: 1) First stat was form 1992. It also says women "may" experience a decrease. 2) Second stat came from Europe and NOT America.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 12:25 AM
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lol true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 08:35 PM
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Which makes women worse prospects because they have too high of a standard for what they can never achieve but assume they can
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 08:02 PM
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I have explained this further in another post the differences between males and females in terms of obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 08:01 PM
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Ok but I never meet women like that in real life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 08:00 PM
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Very good post
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 03:40 PM
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Its rare. Most women will break up with you over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 03:39 PM
2

No man wants to marry a fat woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 02:57 PM
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He should never marry a woman that he feels insecure about. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 01:47 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:53 PM
1

Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:53 PM
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Every man is settling as well. Its called your league
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:52 PM
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Its a response to the other tread written by a BP person who asked why should a woman lose 10 pounds for a man. Where's the incentive? So I am asking the corollary question from the male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:51 PM
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Ok thats good and rare lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:50 PM
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Its a response to the other tread written by a BP person who asked why should a woman lose 10 pounds for a man. Where's the incentive? So I am asking the corollary question from the male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:50 PM
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Women with many previous sexual partners are far more likely to divorce. Ergo, it is a sane response to be concerned about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 11:30 AM
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Justified insecurity (particular for men in relationships) is a very important thing. Often, when a woman says "insecure", it is just a shaming tactic that is used to keep the man in a shitty deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 11:29 AM
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Maybe true in very religious groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 11:22 AM
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Nah, 1950s America worked just fine. We can go back to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 11:22 AM
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UK might have different alimony and child support laws. It makes more sense there. When I was in cancun recently, the UK guys were ADAMANTLY against marriage though. Thought it was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 11:21 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 11:20 AM
0

Feminists write wiki but still admit herbivore is about 70% of the population. They will never blame it on feminism. Imagine that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 11:20 AM
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lol cool story
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:34 AM
1

than now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:34 AM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:29 AM
1

Do you think they are becoming "red pill" subconsciously?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:14 AM
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NOW isn't feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:14 AM
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I think the men are thinking this over without having to official read the reddit page
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:59 PM
2

Well maybe they are "red pill" in ideology without formally being a member or reading this blog?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:58 PM
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Feminists are about equality right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:57 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:39 PM
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Marrying below 21 is probably a risk factor, after that a low sex count traditional girl is the best bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:35 PM
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There are many, just don't see the point in getting more to trump your zero studies. Getting a younger woman with very few sexual partners in a traditional relationship is the MOST stable marriage paradigm with the lowest divorce rate. Ergo, the Red Pill is correct like usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:29 PM
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There are many others. A simple google search will help with that. One is all I need since it trumps your NONE lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:21 PM
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The sexual partner stuff has been confirmed in many peer reviewed studies that I have cited. The data is taken from census numbers. The age gap stuff is based upon some online survey lol TRP proven again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:12 PM
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There was no peer reviewed article about age gaps. Nothing you have attached shows this. Here is the link to an article discussing just one peer reviewed article about premarital sexual partners and divorce risk. http://www.ounce.org/pdfs/cmfsi_2005-03_premsexcohabit_teachman.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:01 PM
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But you just said it was due to economic recession? I can't keep it straight with you lol Its everything but feminism right? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:41 PM
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lol nice post
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:40 PM
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Feminism is all about what I have said regardless of the way feminists define themselves. This has been shown in a litany of posts already. Too numerous to count.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:38 PM
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If bad economies crush the birth rate, why was the birth rate significantly higher during the Great Depression than now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:33 PM
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"Amusing report, but based on junk science. The reference paper by Francis & Mialon is not from a peer-reviewed scientific journal. I read the manuscript. It is based on mTurk, an internet sample of convenience -- not necessarily representative of the US population as respondents self-select to respond to their survey. Moreover, the focus of the source paper was the relationship of wedding expenses related to the probability of divorce; not age difference effects on divorce. No data in the sourc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:32 PM
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Immigration already has more people on welfare than contributors, yet it doesn't stop. Herbivore is defined right on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:19 PM
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we see no refutation here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:59 PM
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yeah that is why I spoke to the mod about it. They are working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:58 PM
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no you haven't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:57 PM
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The article discusses why it will collapse due to the welfare state. It is already explained the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:56 PM
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and?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:55 PM
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If America is becoming a poorer country, wouldn't that increase the birth rates like in Africa and the Middle East? Isn't that how you explained their high birth rates due to poor economies? Your contradictions are confusing me. Does a bad economy help or hurt birth rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:55 PM
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Yet you haven't shown how.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:52 PM
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Yet during the great depression, the birth rate was higher. How do you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:49 PM
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Show me the studies about "age gap" and its risk for divorce. Please cite them. You haven't presented any evidence. I have already cited the sexual partner study which is from 2013. This was done by a professor of sociology who was female and not "red pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:48 PM
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Because they quote independent sources lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:47 PM
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You constantly contradict yourself on economics. First you say that "richer countries have low birth rates due to education and cost of children". Then when I cite 1950s America, you say "America was the richest country in the world... people were optimistic.. now the economy is bad causing people to see no reason to have children". Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:46 PM
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Im sure there are some fat acceptance people among the blue pill women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:44 PM
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Age Gap is a far smaller risk factor than number of sexual partners for the female before marriage. Also, considering California is excluded from the divorce stats, it is impossible to determine the issue about education.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:43 PM
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yeah and? It is now saying the "recession" did it. If being poorer meant lower birth rates, why do all these poor countries have such high birth rates? The economic argument is weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:41 PM
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It has to do with the perceptions of women compared to men. Also, women should only have 5% more body fat percentage compared to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:39 PM
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Why is the birth rate of White America so low in the 2010s compared to the 1950s?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:39 PM
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Why is the birth rate of White America so low in the 2010s compared to the 1950s?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:39 PM
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Incorrect, Asians and Hispanics have lower divorce rates than White women. Already cited in the Dalrock article in my previous post about Shaunti.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:38 PM
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Yet you have no explanation for why 1950s America had far above replacement birth rates compared to 2010s America for the White population? What has radically changed in that time?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:37 PM
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Incorrect. I have cited that the White female's divorce rate is HIGHER than Asians and Hispanic females. It was in the link for the false stats published by that Christian Blogger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:35 PM
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Its "everything but feminism" huh? How do you explain 1950s America (richest country in the world) and the Robust birth rate at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:35 PM
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If there is an active attempt to benefit women at the expense of men, that is largely FEMINIST thought. Feminism= giving benefits to women at the expense of men while removing all obligations from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:22 PM
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Yet 1950s America, which was the RICHEST nation on earth, had a robust birth rate compared to now. How do you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:21 PM
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LOL I thought it was "economics". Now its religion huh? Regardless, the Western world's birth rate collapsed after feminism took hold. American in the 1950s, which was the richest country in the world, had a robust birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:19 PM
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Then how come Hispanics in America have higher birth rates than feminist White women in America?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:17 PM
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1) No one knows the suicide rate in NK. Norway is killing itself with low birth rate and immigration. Whats the difference? 2) Feminist laws in India can be found with a quick google search. One of many feminist commercials in India: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtPv7IEhWRA 3) Herbiovre is 70% of the younger population of males in Japan. How is that "overhyped"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:16 PM
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Yes most of the entitlements of SS and medicare go to OLDER women since men die younger. Also, most of those women haven't paid into the system. Feminism is the direct cause for the decreasing birth rates and the current divorce laws. The article explains this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:04 PM
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South Korean wouldn't exist without America, they would be part of North Korea. South Korean TV and the whole culture is largely Americanized unlike China or North Korea. India has taken many of the feminist laws that Hillary pushed in the 90s. Only now is there push back against this. Japan has the herbivore movement as well. Care to explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:02 PM
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You have ASSERTED that low birth rates are mostly the result of it "being expensive". This is easily refuted when looking at Hispanic birth rates in the same areas or Islamic birth rates in Europe. Muslims and Hispanics still have high birth rates while living in "urban" areas. Also, if economics was the deciding factor on birth rates, poorer countries would have LOWER birth rates not HIGHER.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:00 PM
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It actually sources all of their assertions pretty well. Are refutations?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:52 PM
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Multiple reasons including: 1) Affirmative Action for incompetent women at the expense of competent men 2) Low Birth Rates due to women taking careers as more important than family and also riding the CC. 3) Lack of Motivation for men to work due to divorce laws and quality of females under feminism. Its the perfect storm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:51 PM
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The majority of children are born to non Whites in America since two years ago. Hispanic Machismo culture is becoming dominant throughout the USA. The same is happening in Europe. I've already explained the solution to this societal collapse. Its the end of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:48 PM
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Women really want commitment with sex. They only have ONS with alphas to secure commitment. Ergo, its a big loss for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:46 PM
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You have only given weak anecdotal evidence. Nothing substantive. Furthermore, the study you quoted isn't sufficient because of lack of controls. There is no control for SES and educational levels for the married men vs single men. Ergo, its a worthless study.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:45 PM
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Why not? Most of the welfare state goes to single moms and their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:41 PM
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Actually, with current demographic patterns, it will only take 1 to 2 generations. Im relaxed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:41 PM
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Yeah but no commitment from top level men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:36 PM
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Ok. It doesn't have any comments deleted when I checked my post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:25 PM
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I don't see any deleted comments. Which one was deleted? I've gotten only one deleted comment since starting here many days ago lol. Im not even close to being "temp banned"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:22 PM
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South Korea= Western puppet Japan= Westernized, men becoming herbivores to combat it. India= Hillary Clinton has pushed down feminist laws since the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:18 PM
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What studies do you have backing up the claim that being "married" intrinsically increases promotions? I see no evidence of that. The only method of making that comparison is when ALL THINGS ARE EQUAL. For instance, if men of the same SES and educational levels are both married vs unmarried where you can show the differences in promotions, then I will believe your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:17 PM
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Yes but that takes into account approximately a 5% difference in body fat. Women's body fat percentages are far greater than 5% more than men. Ergo, it is unhealthy and obese on the part of women due to being lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:14 PM
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Communism (which include feminism) destroy those countries and they are still reeling from that damage. Only now are they starting to recover.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 06:49 PM
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Define "low"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 06:32 PM
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As opposed to world leading male suicide rates in America and the West?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 06:31 PM
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Nice straw man brah 1) Some women will (high percentage in Anglo world) NEVER says ALL 2) This wasn't said in the article 3) Once again, it never said ALL of the money or ALL women. It says a good amount of women spend a GOOD amount of the money on frivolous things. Cool story though bro. You really beat that straw man bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 06:31 PM
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The divorce rate is stabilizing with a MUCH LOWER marriage rate. Ergo, far fewer people are getting married. This should push for a much lower divorce rate considering only the best prospects should be marrying. However, divorce rates remain the same despite only a fraction of marriages happening. That makes it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 06:01 PM
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Yes the culture in America leads to toxic women, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 06:00 PM
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This is really for the blue pill Christians
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 05:59 PM
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Yeah thats why I directly spoke about "successful" men in the previous post. Two people who marry in debt and divorce when there are no assets aren't an issue unless there is alimony involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 04:25 PM
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Shaunti's bogus stats have been throughly debunked on Dalrock. Good try though champ. https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/07/05/does-shaunti-feldhahns-rosy-divorce-data-prove-that-no-fault-divorce-is-working-out-pretty-well-after-all/ https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/nowhere-close-to-true/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 04:24 PM
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Its due to selection bias. People with an IQ over 70 understand this concept
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 04:21 PM
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The low divorce rate in China is due to the supreme court there outlawing alimony and giving primary child custody to the parent who earns the majority of the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:29 PM
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Harvard has a liberal/feminist bias. That is true in all the "social" research. When Larry Summers said "maybe there aren't as many women in engineering due to cognitive differences and propensities", the liberal arts feminist professions got him fired. Apparently, this wasn't an allowed topic to discuss. Ergo, Harvard's opinons on social sciences have to be taken with a grain of salt considering the feminist studies professors doing them. Show men how EQUIVALENTLY EDUCATED men of the same SES c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:27 PM
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Women almost only want to marry guy with more money than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:26 PM
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Read the article. Can't just sum up an already succinct article
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:25 PM
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Yeah but men aren't aware of the pitfalls in general. The awareness only started becoming mainstream in the last few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:25 PM
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Like I said, if all you care about is the "number of copies" there is no better method than the out of wedlock welfare system. Now that you have basically acknowledged that marriage doesn't guarantee the child will be raised by you, that again points to the lack of benefit from this system. Tons of children can be produced on the govt's dime. That is far more productive than the "marriage" model.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:25 AM
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Everything you say is nonsense that isn't based on reality. I am speaking about the current laws, not some mythical NAWALT female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:18 AM
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A) Its called Google. Not going to waste my time citing it. Its well known and has been on the news many times C) You have ignored everything I wrote including how a woman can cheat on the man yet still keep custody/house/alimony etc. Women can abuse the shit out of the marriage contract the way it is written. You have been easily crushed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:17 AM
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Women whore themselves out for power and money. Nothing new. This happens in all professions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:15 AM
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This long ramble is all illogical gibberish. Considering that over half of marriages end in divorce, it is very likely that your "High Quality" one offspring will not even see you very often, considering the female almost always gets sole custody on divorce. Ergo, your analysis is flawed beyond recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:05 AM
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A) LOL excuses. This was true of similar income females B) ok C) So why not have fault divorce then? Why allow women to get alimony/assets/child support because she feels "unhappy" without any infidelity or physical abuse? Also, women who cheat on higher earning husbands can take him to the cleaners. The laws are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:03 AM
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A) Both B) I am speaking about successful men C) Why is there such a low divorce rate in countries where women don't get alimony/child support? The most common reason for divorce is "unhappy" in America. None of the other bullshit posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:54 AM
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So its better to just give your money away to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:52 AM
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A) That is correct on avg. Women accumulate far less in assets than men when single on average. B) If she gets 30% of a big income, she can spend it on her own clothing and entertainment. Happens all the time. C) >80% of divorces are due to the female filing. Funny how in countries like China with no alimony or child support laws, the divorce rate is almost non existent. Women have incentive to divorce in the anglo world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:47 AM
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No you're not pretty much "golden" with the current divorce laws. You can have one child with a woman and get divorced. You get thrown out of your house, alimony, loss of assets, etc. Good luck finding another LTR and wife at that point. The man who had a bunch of children out of wedlock that gets put on welfare has far more of a "genetic legacy" than your typical married and then divorced couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:44 AM
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A) Thats irrelevant to the conversation B) He is complaining that the money has no accountability. The ex wife can spend it on anything C) >50% divorce rate and feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:43 AM
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There are plenty of divorced men that are CEOs. Also, the founders of both Google and Facebook were single when they became an IPO and worth 10s of billions of dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:40 AM
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That is a nonsense article. The reason for this is because the vast majority of people on welfare aren't married. Once you take those people out of the equation, there is no correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:29 AM
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The majority of children are born out of wedlock these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:28 AM
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A woman isn't legally bounded to take care of you after being sick. She can just get divorced. Total nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:27 AM
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So society considers Tim Cook a loser since he isn't married?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:27 AM
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CEO's are often men who aren't married these days. There are also feminist female CEOs who aren't married either. There are plenty of single CEOs who are divorced as well. The founders of Google or Facebook weren't married either. George Soros has been single for many years and has only recently "married" a woman about 50 years younger than himself. Same goes for Rupert Murdock.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 11:08 PM
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Don't get what this bullshit means. I have already cited Tim Cook. There are plenty of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 11:07 PM
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Cite the article that shows this about "married" men. Also, this could be an artifact of older men who have been already married. It is hard to determine that considering the fast changing nature of the corporate world. Tim Cook is the most recent example I have given (open homosexual who isn't married) who is now the CEO of the largest company in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 11:06 PM
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Good post
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:39 PM
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Yes he can if she has more money (which is very rare). This doesn't give a reason for a successful man to marry. That doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:36 PM
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Masters of the Universe will marry other VERY wealthy women. Ergo, that makes sense for them. I have already included that in my introduction statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:35 PM
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Umm yeah lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:34 PM
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Yes but very few. There are plenty of single politicians who have been elected. Never President, that is the only one so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:32 PM
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President is 1 out of 300 million person position. Not very relevant for the vast majority of high prestige jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:16 PM
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Yes I know the history. The question is CURRENT marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:02 PM
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Let me break this down: 1) Social Status: plenty of non married men have very high social status. Where does the improvement comes from? Tim Cook is a gay man who is the CEO of Apple. If he gets married, will his status improve? 2) Companionship: you can get this without marriage with no risk. 3) Prospect of Legitimate Children: If a woman has sex with someone else with getting pregnant, the man is on the hook for the kid. I see no reason why this gives him an advantage over not getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:00 PM
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What are you talking about? The female can divorce the man with taking half of his money/alimony/child support/house. She isn't "required" to do anything for him when she is married. Your statement is ridiculous and totally irrelevant to modern marriage. We are speaking about marriage 2.0 not some old construct from 100 years ago that is irrelevant to the modern discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 06:41 PM
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I agree. AVFM's "hangout" videos are garbage. It is the lazy man's method of making a video with no preparation. The problem is that the topics go for long periods of time and are all over the place. Its basically garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 06:34 PM
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AVFM needs to learn how to make videos that aren't "hang outs" for over 1 hour in length. They need individual videos with preparation on a specific topic that don't usually go over 15 minutes or so. Their video format sucks and that is why they get so few views.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 06:33 PM
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NO ONE WANTS FAT WOMEN!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 05:28 PM
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LOL good luck with that as a female unless you bring something very significant to the table
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:17 PM
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Who cares. Those people should shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:34 AM
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oh my yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:30 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:57 PM
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you mad feminist bro? Eating more soy might increase your ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:20 PM
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LOL HA HA HA HA The feminist sympathy card with some shaming language put into it. Bravo dear feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:19 PM
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Good post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:01 PM
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Most of the time the woman doesn't provide half. Also prenup doesn't cover everything, just mitigates it somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:00 PM
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Look above
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:58 PM
1

Why even post at all then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:54 PM
1

I like your version of history. Very entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:54 PM
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Why would you get tested for STDs unless its apparent? Most people don't
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:53 PM
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Cool story feminist bro. Sorry it has nothing to do with reality but sounds good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:53 PM
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Correct assessment for the average guy. The alpha men are the highest on the sexual market, even higher than pretty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:52 PM
1

Cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:38 PM
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So you're saying the British got their asses beat so badly and thrown out of Europe by Hitler in a few months despite being militarily prepared? Its even worse than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:56 PM
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Yes only male
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:54 PM
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Thats not what the study said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:53 PM
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I have. When was Churchill elected again? The British were building up military before Churchill was elected? I could've sworn his memoirs said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:46 PM
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How would you know? Frequently, PID isn't apparent neither is HPV.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:45 PM
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Yes they do. But they also realize the more partners, the higher the risk. Ergo, the cost to benefit ratio becomes a problem at some point. This is concurrently worsened if the woman is in her 30s. She is not only older, losing her looks but she has MANY sexual partners. Its the TRIFECTA of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:43 PM
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Nice avoidance of the subject by deflecting the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:41 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:40 PM
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Why do men having more sexual partners don't lead to them divorcing their wives? Yet the converse of women with more sexual partners leads them to divorcing faster?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:39 PM
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Cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:25 PM
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Some things are worth risk? LOL That is your opinion. Considering the vast majority of men are concerned with loss of assets, etc with divorce, I would venture to say its a VERY BIG ISSUE. Ergo, the need to mitigate risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:25 PM
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We have explained the reasons. Infidelity (as confirmed by sociological studies on the issue), STDS, risk for infertility due to PID, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:23 PM
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Damn right. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:59 PM
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I'd dump her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:58 PM
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These studies are done on American women. Your argument is illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:51 PM
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Russia did a lot in WW2, I'll give them that credit. Britain got rocked and isolated at home. Churchill came crying to Roosevelt for help constantly. Britain didn't have shit figured out. That is why they elected Chamberlain and made "peace in our time". Until Hitler attacked Poland and moved West did Britain FINALLY get nervous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:51 PM
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Also, the party girl lifestyle with multiple pump and dumps ages her pretty fast as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:49 PM
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If you don't know the pitfalls of divorce to a successful, wealthy man you haven't been paying attention at all. Even men who are middle class have much to fear. Things such as alimony, loss off half of assets, child support, etc. Also, your assertion that its due to religion is speculation. There has been plenty of hormonal speculation about oxytocin as well. Regardless, the link between sexual partners and infidelity/divorce exists on the female side.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:48 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:28 PM
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Yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:27 PM
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The original post gave my opinion for a man that "had to get married". These are the methods used to mitigate risks of a marriage or LTR situation for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:23 PM
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Interesting perspective. What about the female "character" that was posted by some feminist a few days ago. She had about a count of 8 by 25. That one appears WAY too far gone for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:20 PM
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You had the same opinion about Hitler until you got your ass kicked and had the US bail you out last time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:14 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:13 PM
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So why are you bitching about TRP as "whiners" exclusively? Why not a post talking about the feminist whiners?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:13 PM
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My argument is that a female with a count under 4 and an age under 28 for marriage is the best bet. Once a female has a count greater than 4 and age greater than 28 to 30, her past days are already over. She gave them to some dude before you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:12 PM
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What is the limit? I would say the female should be under 4
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:08 PM
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ok but the question is for men who will get married no matter the risk. How many partners before the risk goes up to unacceptable levels for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:08 PM
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The birth rate of White Catholic countries is marginal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:03 PM
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Have decided they will get married regardless of the unfairness of marriage laws. We are speaking about the men who have decided to get married regardless of the risk of the marriage laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:02 PM
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I agree on a theoretical level that marriage is always a bad deal under current laws. I am asking this question for men who basically have to get married in the future. There is still a segment of men that want to get married in the future regardless of the laws. I am trying to ascertain qualities that will mitigate their risks to the best of their ability. This is an extremely important issue concerning risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:00 PM
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Really doesn't matter what you "join". You irrelevant to the demographic picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:57 PM
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If you're worried about "whining" or "Bitterness", your biggest concern should be feminism. They are consistently whining about some "injustice for women" and are largely bitter larger, fatter, unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:56 PM
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I just said that a more patriarchal culture such as Islam will take over the European world due to feminism. I made no value judgement on this issue outside of the fact that it will be the end of feminism. Traditional gender roles will be enforced by these cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:43 PM
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Nice straw man brah. I never said the "evilness" of Muslims. I just said they are going to take over Britain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:20 AM
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Irregardless, the total number of sexual partners is very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:13 AM
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I can post from any source. It doesn't matter, you won't accept it. Ergo, its a worthless conversation with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:12 AM
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You can argue that about all stats
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:36 AM
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Do you disagree with the newest one from 2013 that shows direct correlation?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:35 AM
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The science proves that women with more partners are more likely to divorce. An idea behind that is the alpha widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:34 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:52 PM
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The problem is her being pumped and dumped by many men before her future "husband" gets her. Why should someone pay full price for a used car that others got to ride while new for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:41 PM
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Great video by Stephan. There really can't be any real rebuttal to this video.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:31 PM
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If you date someone in your league, you don't need to go through a bunch of 2 to 3 month relationships. If a man isn't committing to a woman in her 20s, that woman is shooting out of her league. Ergo, no need to be a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:29 PM
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Those stats are about women's number of sexual partners before they get married. What are you talking about? Don't make things up. Read the actual study.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:28 PM
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Yes attractive men lead women on. The problem is for the woman who gets pumped and dumped by many alphas. She becomes an "alpha widow". This often occurs during her 20s. Then by her 30s she becomes desperate and decides to "settle" for some beta for financial reasons plus her aging out. The problem is many men don't want to marry these women at that age especially with that level of mileage. She will likely be forced to settle with a guy far below the level she could've gotten in her 20s, making…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:26 PM
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If you can't understand the difference between having sex with a few men or many men, thats your problem. No amount of hamster rationalization is going to change basic male biology and concerns over this issue. And yes, that chick is a SLUT
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:24 PM
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We'll see champ. I know, I mean the Muslim birth rate is slow low in London. They will never take over and there are no Sharia zones. Oh wait. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020382/You-entering-Sharia-law-Britain-As-Islamic-extremists-declare-Sharia-law-zone-London-suburb-worrying-social-moral-implications.html Fuck the BBC must be wrong too plus the Anglican Church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RaKpf4Mhg4 Do I really need to get birth stats from UK?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:23 PM
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That is true about the laws. However, the sociological studies show the higher the partner count of the female, the higher the divorce rate. Stephan Molyneaux did a whole video on it recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:49 PM
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Very well stated. Bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:33 PM
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ok so you just admitted that you are trying to get men out of your league to commit. If you can't get the guy to commit more than a "few months", the female is chasing guys way out of her league who is just using her as a sexual outlet. They are basically pumping and dumping the girl because he doesn't look at her for a LTR. She is just a short term sexual object. Definition of a SLUT allows this. After she gets pumped and dumped by "attractive guys" for another 5 years that are out of her leagu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:29 PM
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Happens a lot to this woman. Wonder why. How come the girl I'm dating was able to date a guy for greater than 4 years and didn't get into a string of relationships for less than a year plus ONS/hookups? Difference between a slut and non slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:23 PM
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Why is she having sex her HS bf if he "doesn't want to be tired down so early". The only legitimate appearing relationship is he second college boyfriend that supposedly "cheated on her". The rest are basically hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:16 PM
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Another video confirming the changes going on in London and throughout the UK. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgKMI1wV0ps
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:11 PM
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How come she is well above the median number of sexual partners at her age? That is the definition of a slut. Also, maybe she shouldn't have sex immediately with guys in her "relationships". Its not normal to have relationships that last only 2 to 3 months on average. She literally has no relationships that last for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:10 PM
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Everything I posted wasn't from fox news. It was from middle eastern news channels. I like the straw man argument though, you really showed fox news lol Also, they are taking over London regardless of your nonsense. Here is another video right in the MIDDLE OF LONDON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo Guess these guys are really assimilating huh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:04 PM
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Considering I'm a 35 y/o male dating a 23 y/o female who has a far lower partner count, I would consider that slutty behavior. Why hasn't this girl been with any boyfriends for an extended period of time? Lets look at her sex count: 2 Hook ups/ONS 2 "relationships that lasted only 2 to 3 months 2 college "boyfriends" but then had a hook up between them? Those relationships obviously lasted a very short period of time 1 high school bf that broke up with her before college Sounds pretty slutty/use…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:59 PM
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By your own admission, younger japanese women don't want to live traditional roles. Ergo, feminism is taking form. Furthermore, Japanese women are becoming like American women. They don't want to cook, clean, etc for the husband. However, they still have VERY HIGH STANDARDS for their men. Also, that "boorish" behavior is a typical feminist talking point. If you talk to the typical feminist, she will tell you that is a common occurrence in America as well. They even make videos showing the "terri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:55 PM
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http://www.history.com/topics/u-s-immigration-before-1965 This discusses the "Chinese exclusion act as well". There was a "quota" system on all immigration and SEVERELY limited non European immigration to an extremely low percentage. Only during the 1965 act did this change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:00 PM
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Look at the videos I have posted from middle eastern TV. If you think they "run the house", how come the Islamic sheiks talk about the proper way to "beat your wife according to the Qu'ran"? You can laugh all you want, Russia can easily nuke America out of existence. The CIA has estimated that China has underground nuclear weapons in the thousands as well. Considering they have MX missile technology (thanks to your boy Bill Clinton), they actually have second strike capability through submarines…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:57 PM
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Google it. If you are that ignorant of the history of immigration, it is up to you to find it out. This is basic knowledge that should've been taught in middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:55 PM
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They did!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:48 PM
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For all the people claiming Islamic culture is "feminist" like the Western world hasn't watched much middle eastern TV. Fortunately, I will post a few videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkWVdAfXbXI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ted-NxBbhng https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4UF2Jq1xys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:46 PM
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The immigration from Latin America only started after 1965 thanks to Teddy Kennedy et al. Before that, all immigration came from European nations due to concern of assimilating non European people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:36 PM
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Italy is far more feminist than the Middle Eastern nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:20 PM
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I don't think so either. I think the West will be conquered by other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:20 PM
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Do I really need to show you the videos of no go zones in London? O the daily rallies outside of the mosques out of London? Please don't make me laugh. Just because you see a few in the pubs doesn't prove much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:20 PM
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Is that why they stopped all immigration to the USA in 1924? There has never been a time in USA history that so much of the overall population has been foreign born or not been expected to assimilate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:19 PM
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1) Actually, I get my information from videos reality available and put out by ISIS or on various middle eastern news channels. Ever watch MEMRI? It translates the Arabic language to English. Not hard to get. But its good that you hate Fox News considering I never watch it. Paranoid much liberal? 2) She can divorce but will get SHIT during the divorce and lose her kids. Therefore, what is the chance of her divorcing compared to the West? Can't you see the difference? 3) USA can't destroy Russia …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:18 PM
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Regardless, its the same shit. Maybe not as toxic as the West but another form of feminism and definitely not patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:59 PM
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That was when immigrant groups were brought into the country in small and manageable amounts. They were essentially forced to assimilate. Why do you think all immigration was halted between 1924-1965. Furthermore, the people who "assimilated" all came from White European countries at the time. Currently, large numbers of people from totally different cultures and races are flooding into the West. They have no need to assimilate and aren't being forced to. Ergo, your analysis is bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:58 PM
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Actually, I live in Michigan. Plenty of Muslims live in Michigan. Most of them are very into their own community and have aggressive Mosques.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:56 PM
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Well that sounds pretty damn good. But it will never happen when women have over 50% of the vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:55 PM
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Oh really? So in Saudi Arabia, ISIS town, etc. a woman can just divorce a man because she is "unhappy"? Also, when she divorces the man, can she take half of his house, custody of the children, alimony and child support? Of course not. Maybe a female can divorce but she will lose custody of the children, get no alimony, won't get the house, etc. Ergo, she won't divorce because her incentive structure is VERY poor in doing so. Also, the US "nuking" anyone is full of shit. USA will get nuked right…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:55 PM
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ok, then why are they growing so quickly in America?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:17 PM
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Very good point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:07 PM
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The birth rate of White Westerns on average is approximately 1.4. They are far below replacement levels which requires 2.1
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:06 PM
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During the Roman times, feminism actually started during the declining years. Birth rates collapsed and they required the barbarians for both labor plus manning of their militaries. Once the "barbarians" got sufficient population numbers, they literally sacked Rome. Also, many barbarians had "assimilated" into Roman life but still held to their roots. This is the same trajectory as Europe with Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:05 PM
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Whats your brilliant version?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:04 PM
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It will be Islamic at current rates regardless of your rationalization. You are kidding yourself if you think they are assimilating into Anglo culture and not forming their own communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:03 PM
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Feminism= female supremacy This comes forth in academia, divorce laws, marriage laws, child custody, domestic abuse, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:01 PM
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They are defeated through demography. This happened to the Roman Empire as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:00 PM
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Not really if you concern yourself with the future of the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:59 PM
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Rational people had plenty of children in the 1950s. What changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:22 PM
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You won't have to leave the West. They are coming here lol Didn't I just explain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:22 PM
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The only functional model is the 1950s American model. A functional monogamous culture with the man as the head of the household. Really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:47 PM
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We'll see. Happy that you are so confident that you think you are assimilating them and not vice versa. Only time will tell. Throughout history, such large demographic changes have caused culture changes. I highly doubt Western society will remain the same after Islamic people take over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:46 PM
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Regardless, Japan is closer to a feminist society than patriarchal society. Compare Japan to African Nations, Middle Eastern nations or even Western society before the 1960s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:44 PM
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