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Makes sense to me. Feminism in it's current form expresses itself as a form of a raw power play rather than anything along the lines of "fairness". Feminist women may want MOST guys to play along with the power play, but almost no women want a guy that's easy to steamroll, and if you're not easy to steamroll, you see the current form of feminism as the power play it is and reject it. The dating success is downstream of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:03 AM
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No, you’re having this “issue” is because so many in academia are insufferable and self-righteous. Especially as the proliferation of higher degrees continually inflates and the lack of academic rigor currently systemic in higher education.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:03 PM
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You just contradicted yourself. In certain contexts, you would use it. Daily life is not limited to certain contexts. Also, are you 18? Explaining what a doctorate is comes off as juvenile, I ensure you most people understand what a doctorate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:27 PM
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“This is becoming a pattern” Once again, twitter is not real life lol “ attracted to you may have to give a shit about attracting them.” We get it, women are holier than thou angels who have rose above the carnal desires of humanity and don’t care about validation from the opposite sex. Do you ever get tired of smelling your own farts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:24 PM
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They are not in fact called doctors in daily life. You wouldn’t go up to someone and introduce yourself as a doctor unless you’re a medical doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:20 PM
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I love how social leftists treat shame as this crazy alien concept that would never ever work when dealing with individual duties and responsibilities because it’s “icky”. Even though it’s been the main enforcement mechanism to keep orderly and civilized behavior throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:02 AM
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Completely retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:57 AM
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How about “grow the fuck up, that “shitty” quality of life would be the envy of 99.9% of humans to ever live”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:55 AM
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Finding a scholarship or two isn't an "outcry" of support. You're being completely disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:05 AM
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It takes effort to be this disingenuous. At a select few colleges and this is a very recent practice because the gender numbers have gotten so heavily skewed at some institutions and the "white" factor will still be held against those men. Not a serious good faith argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:11 PM
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I can find a few organizations supporting pedos, does that mean there's large scale support for pedos?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:06 PM
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Yes, the social lefties who dominate Redddit gave us Trump 2.0. It's forcing the democrats to be more sensible on social issues. Nature is healing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:09 PM
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The president voted in by his increased support from minorities which outweighed his loss of support from whites? Narrative violation showing your delusional mindset. It's what happens when you don't touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:40 PM
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Yes 2020 was absolute delusion, we've moved to a healthier spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:12 PM
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"Medical trials were only run with men in minds" This is a perfect example why feminism is completely insufferable, if there's a way to twist something into female oppression they will do it. The reason medical tries were only run on men is because women were PROTECTED, men were the disposable test dummies, new medicine is risky and can come with all sorts of side effects such as you know things like DEATH. The complicated differences between men and women's bodies are still being figured out. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:06 PM
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Even worse, we've moved past this even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:57 PM
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I'm not on board because militant egalitarianism is fundamentally at odds with nature and therefore a misguided policy that limits flourishing. Militant gender roles is also a bad policy but we've gone off the deep end in the other direction. A proper culture would recognize the average differences between the sexes, account for it and utilize it to societies advantage while still allowing freedom of choice for those on the edges of variability. Instead, feminism has taken a darker more power se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:26 PM
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It's 2025 now, this isn't 2020. There is no racial "system" to dismantle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:43 PM
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Saying something and behaving that way are completely different things it's often the exact reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:18 AM
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"men don't get a lot of criticism" In this very narrow band, it's true. In general men get far more criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:59 PM
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Like I said she was a flashpoint in the culture/ gender wars. Basically the equivalent of "incel" for a woman which gets thrown around constantly with little blowback.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:26 PM
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Two sides of that coin. The guy would get nearly zero support to be called a doctor. While the women will get "yes queen, you're a boss, make people call you a doctor!", a lot of the vitriol she got was over zealous reply guys responding to this general sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:04 PM
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Almost like there's always exceptions to a rule 🤯🤯 And women dominating nursing happened even before women entered the workforce in mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:59 PM
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Lol that you put any serious weight into a mob of extreme reply guys. There is a larger separate point, healthy gender dynamics should be concerned with what the opposite sex is attracted to and a large part of current dysfunction can be attributed to not taking that seriously in modern times, especially women. It shouldn't be a flex to behave in the opposite way on purpose, not that I think that's the women was doing here, she was just posting a picture celebrating her PHD albeit to strangers w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:54 PM
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To a certain extent. She is a just a flashpoint in the culture wars/gender dynamics. It's definitely bigger than her. However, alot of people making that statement would be called a douche, it just wouldn't have nearly the likelyhood of going viral like this did if it was a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:47 PM
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Explaining something doesn't make something "warranted" for the 10,000 time. Do you understand how the internet works? If you make a statement that an average person would find obnoxious, then certainly the 5% of terminally online hyper responders are going to find it extremely obnoxious and mass downvote/leave comments. That's how you get the dogpiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:44 PM
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There definitely is a minority that will get weird with it. However, men instinctively know that women are instinctively looking for bread winners and the more a women makes the more likely she will be unhappy with what he makes, even if it's a great salary and therefore you being chill with it is against the odds and a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:00 PM
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You're proving the point. "You can call me doctor" comes off as arrogant and obnoxious when you're not an actual medical doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:56 PM
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“Waa, everything I don’t like is social conditioning, waa”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:10 PM
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You didn’t make it up. That comeback slaps at the r/twoxchromosomes meetup. However, repeating a nonsense analogy does nothing to disprove a valid one. And yes…once again… you’re right, humans aren’t pencils…but that’s the whole point of an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:08 AM
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This isn’t your gender studies 101 class bud, you need to do better than performative outrage and ideological signaling declarative statements with zero backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:21 AM
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Being hungry isn’t biological. It’s cultural. Being thirsty isn’t biological. It’s cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:13 AM
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I mean… that’s a huge part of the reason. A woman constantly gets suitors and choices, a man has to actively put himself out there or he’s a ghost. It’s another reason why a selective less promiscuous woman is more attractive, if she is able to stay choosy and not give in to boundless attention when single, she’s much more likely to stay that way in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:18 PM
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Never even came close to implying that. I am certainly completely skeptical of your explanation though as social constructionists almost exclusively label behaviors the don’t like as “social conditioning”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:14 PM
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Yes… that’s the point of analogy…using a simpler subject to help understanding of a more complicated subject (humans and their behavior), you getting performatively offended over it being used says nothing about it’s validity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:13 PM
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I mean yeah, that’s what an instinct is, it’s not something you logically consciously process through.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:10 PM
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My hypothesis is that giving sex is such a powerful tool for women that if they know he can go get sex extremely easy, being a gay guy is just like being a woman in access to sex, then they instinctively avoid them as a partner as it tilts the power imbalance away from them with zero benefit to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:31 PM
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Almost like it's analogy and that's the whole purpose of an analogy!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:27 PM
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For something to be hypocritical, the two things you're treating differently have to be relatively the same. Men and women are not the same. That's where the social constructionism push for "egalitarianisim" gets so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:26 PM
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“Cheaters have always cheated and always found ways to lie by omission to partners.” “When you date an individual you are dating that individual, in the specific context or social circle that you met them.” These statements are once again completely void of the necessary context and nuance. Lefties always make it completely black and white, to further the agenda that we must be loose on any and all social norms. There is no perfect distinction between cheater vs non-cheater, it’s a whole mix of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:02 AM
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It’s like you didn’t even read what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:39 AM
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Did you have a stroke? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:43 AM
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I wouldn’t say it’s not worth it, just that we’ve degenerated into a much more primitive social state leading to the risk of being hurt by your partner/potential partner drastically higher. Every couple will have their differences, but in the past with stronger social norms, you were negotiating at the boundaries with ~80% of relationship norms set in place. Now, you have to negotiate the bare minimum respect otherwise sociopaths and anti-social types have a cultural pass to take advantage of yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:37 PM
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…you know you can have a shared culture with exponentially less conflict points making it much easier to find someone compatible, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:31 PM
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Yes, that’s why relationships are thriving in modern day. Definitely not at their lowest point and health ever statistic wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:30 PM
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You lefties are always so snarky about glossing over important context and nuance. There’s communication and then then there’s insane amount of communication needed to smooth over the thousand extra potential conflict points when you live in a culture that no longer has strong social norms. Now, repeat this ad nauseam with every potential romantic interest while bad actors have a field day because there’s no longer any social repercussions for fucking around. Such progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:28 PM
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Proving OPs point quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:18 PM
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The old I’m not a red flag, you’re a red flag!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:31 PM
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No, it’s the fact that their main way of gaining power is through social aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:21 PM
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Yes, women are more socially aggressive on average. That means statistically, you will have more women being verbally combative against standards placed on them and that’s what we exactly see play out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:18 PM
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No, you're not getting the economics of this. You've appealed to the extreme each comment instead of actually dealing with the argument. Yes, there will be a handful of guys that still bounce and fake commitment for 3-6 months, however, the vast majority of guys will not go through all that work just for a single hookup and bounce, the sunk cost fallacy is real and it keeps so many couples together. For the vast majority of men, investing that much time and energy means they will want to protect…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:47 PM
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I will repeat. A strategy doesn't have to be 100% perfect for it to be viable. You're acting like you have zero agency over the situation. You still have to show interest and buildup to keep the actual good guy around, but making men wait for sex eliminates 80-90% of the chance a women will be used for her body. You're also trying to apply the poly marriages, which only affected a very small percentage of men who were able to have multiple wives to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:33 AM
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Men and women have different strength of impulses for different actions and their self-control is judged in different areas for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:18 AM
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Why can't I? What gives you the moral high ground to tell me I can't? See how two can play this silly game?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:28 PM
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Yes, we all know men will take a ride on the town bicycle and then you hear later the town bicycle is sad about being stuck in a situationship. Not really curious at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:26 PM
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We'd hope divorce is lower as only the best relationships are making it to marriage. Going up from a massively lower rate than the 70s as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:42 PM
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C'mon, you're acting like the strategy has to be 100% perfect for it to be viable. No strategy with humans is in the realm of being perfect, we only have risk reducers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:36 PM
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It's literally the health agencies numbers, that's as far from a cherry pick as you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:50 PM
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This is weird framing. Usually I see the radfems denying this the most when shouting down men who use your points to explain why they don’t like promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:16 PM
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This is weird framing. Usually I see the radfems denying this the most when shouting down men who use your points to explain why they don’t like promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:16 PM
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“Not surprisingly, there was a huge gender difference, with men reporting nearly twice as many hook-ups on average (28) as women (15)” These numbers show that study should not be taken seriously at all. The average estimated partners someone has had is between 4-7.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:12 PM
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I have neither, but nice try with the usual middle school insults 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:47 PM
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What in the white knight is this? A vanishingly small group of terminally online guys that fit this description doesn’t compare to this notion being much more pervasive with your average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:56 AM
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Nah, shaming is often good actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:55 AM
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That doesn’t work with a hyper social species that set dating norms, shaming is perfectly acceptable to an extent and should be encouraged. Shaming help produce better mates on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:55 AM
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Yes, of course, women definitely hold men to all the same standards they themselves hold, right? Right? Only tall girls require tall guys? Only rich girls require a rich guy? Only muscular girls require a muscular guy? Oh wait they don’t? They only screech “hypocrite” when it serves them? Equality for me but not for thee. We call that manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:20 AM
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This is the nonsense feminist take to take shots at a guys “manhood”, don’t fall for it. It changes the framing from the women being inadequate to the man being inadequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:13 AM
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lol the most milquetoast “everybody do want they want to do” take, surface level reasonable but that’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:10 AM
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Yes! Couldn't think of anything more attractive as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:19 PM
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Clearly you didn’t read the article because women’s breasts have been found to be linked to the same sexual processing center as genitalia. At least be educated before you reply, that’s clearly distinct from all other non-genital erogenous zones. Yes, covering them is partly a social construction, but the underpinnings on why a culture finds it beneficial to do so has its underpinnings completely in biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:09 AM
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I mean when I see the italics come out, I know I’m about to get a “Reddit coded” decree. So I respond in kind. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201305/sexual-wiring-of-womens-breasts?utm_source=perplexity They are sexually wired, they are not just a secondary sex characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:33 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201305/sexual-wiring-of-womens-breasts?utm_source=perplexity Science says no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:31 PM
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How is it automatically “I think you did this”? An accusation is not merely believing it’s a possibility. You can be 99% something didn’t happen and still verify. An accusation is stating explicitly, “you did this and I’m quite sure of it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:52 PM
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Words have meaning. An accusation is explicitly saying “I think you did this”, verifying doesn’t automatically come with an accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:31 PM
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That’s not how that works. Checking your bank account to see if your direct deposit is there doesn’t mean you’re accusing your employer of not paying you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:25 PM
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So you’re really bad at foreplay got it. Feet don’t have sexual wiring like breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:29 PM
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Verifying ≠ accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:23 PM
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Not having blind trust doesn’t mean an accusation. An accusation is stating “I think you did this”, verifying that my direct deposit hit my account doesn’t mean I’m accusing my employer of not paying me. It solely means that the trust isn’t 100% blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:59 AM
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They have sexual pleasure wiring. The debate is rather silly. To me this is manipulative framing to “win” the debate created by social activists to put detractors immediately on the back foot. I think the amount of women who claim they aren’t inherently sexual and the fraction of those women who truly believe that is vanishingly small. I’m not saying you’re trying to manipulate, just that the framing is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:54 AM
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Sorry, I thought we were stating things that if said would let others know that we’re deeply unserious people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:42 AM
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Verifying ≠ accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:41 AM
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Only a virgin male could earnestly argue that. If you’re not a virgin male, your foreplay must suck and I feel bad for your partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:41 AM
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That’s not how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:15 AM
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And I have a billon dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:52 AM
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Just get the test. You’re the only one that has to know. Skip all the potential problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:45 AM
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Not an accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:43 AM
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It’s not an accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:43 AM
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No one did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:42 AM
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Nah, we both have to cover up our sexual parts. Sorry, life isn’t always fair. Women just have more sexual parts. Yes, tits on women are sexual. No, it’s not a social construction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:24 AM
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You haven't even done the most basic research on this and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:38 AM
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Neither of those are facts actually. Ones completely subjective and the other depends state by state.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:48 AM
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Okay, I'll correct you. "Health rights", abortion being decided at the state level isn't "health rights" and isn't "women's rights" in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:09 AM
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Saying crazy things like "women losing rights in America" is the exact screeching we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:27 AM
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No, the original feminist goals have been reached. Now it's turned more into a self-serving movement for continual power taking under the moral high ground guise of "equality". Militant egalitarianism is a disaster anyways as is all of the social constructionist derived theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:25 AM
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No, most people see feminists still screeching about oppression and the threat of oppression and they look around and don't see the oppression so the term has dirtied itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:22 AM
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Almost anyone that disagrees is an obnoxious self-worshiping type. We use to have non socially retarded culture that understood certain behaviors were expected to change once in a relationship. Now it’s “cOnTrOlLiNg” to expect the basics. It’s normal to be more risqué and loose when single. It’s normal to tighten up and be expected to tighten up. Healthy functioning cultures have this distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:58 AM
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No. We just now live in a culture that’s socially stunted and has no guidelines for single vs. relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:47 AM
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Abdicating responsibility for your society is actually fucking embarrassing and societies structure is a large part about how sexual dynamics and relationships function in said society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:41 AM
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Women claim that men care about body count because they're jealous as a machiavellian shaming technique, almost all intuitively understand why men do in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:38 AM
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No shit not everyone takes rejection well, but there’s a far cry from a few to “they’ve all taken it so poorly”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:04 AM
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The safety orientation has never made any sense. As if a guy that can’t handle rejection is going to suddenly enjoy being ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:15 AM
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“They’ve all taken it so poorly”, I highly doubt that. You can tell someone who justifies bad behavior by how much they exaggerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:14 AM
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That tag and that mindset, what a catch you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:47 AM
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I wouldn’t classify this as ghosting, telling him you weren’t comfortable with his actions was the closure. Ghosting is when it’s out of the blue with no explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:43 AM
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It’s crazy to me how so many women find it so hard to understand generalizations. Obviously, dangerous vibes are a completely different situation and discussion. I don’t really understand how ghosting is a solution though, I can assure you with 100% certainty that if he was going to react negatively to a courteous rejection message, he’s going to react with even more intensity to being rejected by being ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:32 AM
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Ahh so this is just some weird fantasy of yours, gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:24 AM
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I don’t think it’s true to that extreme. It is natural for men to take the lead and make most of the initiative, however taking some initiative like 25% to his 75% goes a long way to showing your serious and not just in it because you see him as an option and like the attention. It’s confirmation that I’m not wasting my time and energy. Too much interest goes far beyond that and makes me question why a woman that should have options is being so forward and vulnerable so quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:24 AM
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Not reading all that, happy or sad for you though ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:57 PM
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Yeah, this is why you have to take it as a blessing in disguise. It's people like yourself revealing their true nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:47 PM
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If you're that paranoid you probably shouldn't date. Dating is inherently about making yourself vulnerable and you're not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:14 PM
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Yep, Men and Women degrade each other in different ways. Men degrade women by using their bodies for sex without caring about them. Women degrade men by using them for attention and resources without caring for them. The times I’ve felt most degraded by women is when they pretend to be interested to get a free meal/drinks but the second that card swipes, they vanish. The other scenario is when I’ve given them my attention/energy and they are receptive, but take it for granted and I find out they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 03:05 AM
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You’re strawmanning the argument hard. Sex with a man giving you commitment is not degrading. Sex with a dude that’s just trying to get a nut off then discard you right after is highly degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:23 AM
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Exactly, the reversal is true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:58 AM
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I actually do think most straight guys consider this. It’s a huge reason why they judge girls who are sexual with reckless abandon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:36 AM
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Duty to eachother. Ever tried not strawmanning so hard? You're making up outlier fantasies in your head about what I'm saying. This is what hedonists like yourself don't get. There's true unfit matches, but in the modern age is more likely the case of unfit priorities Your mindset determines much of your reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:55 PM
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What's juvenile is thinking marriage is about "happiness" more than "duty", it shouldn't breed resentment if you both have this mindset. You're just projecting your own situation and pretending it's universal, that's cave woman thinking,many people can be good partners and still end up in dead bedrooms. Also way to clownishly ignore the part where I said I often please my partner even when I'm not feeling it because it doesn't fit your narrative, clearly you have reading comprehension issues or …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:30 PM
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Always so melodramatic, "mUh bOdIlY aUtOnoMy", holy hell. We're not talking about a court of law here. Certainly not everytime, but if someone has a lower libido, satisfying your partner is a good thing to do even if you don't always "feel it in the exact moment", I've done it plenty of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:31 AM
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Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:42 AM
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It's really not disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:02 AM
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A truly confident men doesn't listen to anyone else on how a "confident man" should behave. Especially when it's a girl trying to convince him to accept what he perceives as red flags. When did we mention virginity? We're talking about sleeping around. Lots of hidden manipulation games you're playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:06 AM
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You were so close to getting but had to take a bitter left turn. Here's the thing MOST girls can't handle it emotionally, making it a big red flag for bad decision making and/or emotional baggage. You can make demasculinizing ego plays like "little boy" all you want, but trying to insult men over a logical standard doesn't work on confident men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:41 PM
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As a partner I want equal respect not an equal partner. The “equal partner” is an off-shot of the social constructionist ideology that denies all of the legitimate biological differences between men and women. For a fruitful relationship, it’s about taking advantage of your strength and minimizing your weaknesses, and you need to acknowledge the differences both as a group between men and women and individual differences. This reminds me of a girl I dated shortly, who told me that she wanted a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:20 AM
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Honestly, making it into a surefire accusation of cheating is manipulative. It certainly exposes the relationship of not having unconditional trust but claiming it’s 100% an accusation of cheating is just plainly untrue. I verify my employer paid me by checking my bank account with a hint of suspicion that they stiffed me before I check.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:41 PM
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Honestly, making it into a surefire accusation of cheating is manipulative. It certainly exposes the relationship of not having unconditional trust but claiming it’s 100% an accusation of cheating is just plainly untrue. I verify my employer paid me by checking my bank account with a hint of suspicion that they stiffed me before I check.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:40 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:14 PM
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It is 100% logical. Like I said i follow actions not words. That's not even getting in to the fact that if you are having sex you at the very minimum subconsciously want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:46 AM
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Women are much more prone to social pressure and prioritizing motherhood over a career is not in vogue, kids really have become an afterthought nowadays for most young people. However, this is why I watch actions not words. A young women will say this but see a baby/puppy on the street and immediately drop everything and start fawning as the maternal instinct is triggered. I take the words with a huge grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:30 AM
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It's an abstract statement not a personal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:20 PM
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I personally think it's related to why most women are repulsed by bi guys. Having an easy out for sexual access reduces a substantial amount of leverage a woman has in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:05 PM
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Attention seeking. Constant instagram selfies and bikini pictues, revealing clothing, overly flirty. "No man is going to tell me what to wear or post!" Translation: "I'm not sacrificing my need for male approval in order to respect and foster a healthy relationship." Overly Individualistic language. "I already like me life, I'm only going to get into a relationship if I think they will to add to my life." Once again a warning sign that they won't make the necessary sacrifices for a healthy relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:24 PM
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Lol, pretending not wanting promiscuity is a red flag, typical
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:15 PM
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That really never happens. It's quite obvious nowadays because social norms around dressing has been completely lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:07 AM
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You're acting like 95% of guys don't understand this. But you expect us to magically control the 5% of guys that will go overboard when you hyper seek sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:06 AM
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Ehhh ... this only works if they are flashy with their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:58 AM
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This is 2024, anything that isnt directly accentuenting/revealing your ass and tits is beyond normalized. No guys are freaking out over showing shoulders, crop tops, leggings etc., let's not be disingenuous here, you know the type of clothing OP is referring to and it's not what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:57 AM
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They want to have their cake and eat it too. The only what the positive aspects of overt sexualization but put blame for the negative aspects on the "patriarchy" or"disgusting men". It's like a man who drives a sports car with a modified muffler around town complaining about "gold digging" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:19 AM
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I'd be interested in hearing a detailed pros and cons. Old social conventions were far too restrictive to blend with the modern world, however we've over corrected drastically and denigrated the sacredness of almost all of our social institutions. Marriage is a mindset and the more serious you (and society) takes it, the more you will get from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:14 PM
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Does this not magically apply to men either?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:06 PM
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Everyone that disagrees with me is evil!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:05 PM
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Promiscuity is correlated with mental illness in women, no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:12 PM
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Because objectively in a way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:24 PM
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Indifference is still often malicious because it leads to the same outcom, without having to be the "bad person" and doing it explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:21 PM
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I've thought about this and have wondered the same thing. Almost no one gets pregnant the first time having unprotected sex. One hypothesis I have is that the orgasm is much more of a powerful bonding mechanism for women, to protect against this and given the fact that almost no one gets pregnant the first time having unprotected sex, it makes sense that she only orgasms when a guy is mindful and has her in mind during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:47 AM
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Yes I have, just not the uber progressive small minority circles you are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:42 PM
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I have, MSM have much higher rates of disease and sex is a huge leverage from women which is removed with bisexual men, the turn off is instinctual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:18 PM
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Sounds like absolute living hell, everyone jealous of each other at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:15 PM
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That's what radfems say, reality is different though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:13 PM
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Exactly. It is circular in a way though. I'm doing it for others to gain influence, which in turn benefits myself and is for "myself". The nature of a highly social species makes it hard to separate yourself from the group. I also think some people struggle with viewing themselves as self-serving, their ego tells them they have more "pure" intentions. Especially, when culture puts being selfish in a negative light. However, selfishness can show up in both anti-social and pro-social behaviors. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:43 PM
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Agency when it fits them, helpless victim of circumstances when it doesn't. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:35 PM
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But what causes women to gravitate towards tight fitting pants? Loose clothing is the best to stay cool in warm weather and tight is only helpful for cold weather if you have another layer over top of it. It's also not like tight clothing is know for it's comfortability...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:31 PM
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This may shock you, you may want to sit down for this one, but, men and women, are in fact, different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:31 PM
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I've found this adknowledgement triggers the feminists more than any other. Female power seeking must be disputed at all cost. They want to gain power while minimizing all the disadvantages that come with power seeking. That's why the response is so vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:27 PM
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Those leggings are often ridiculously tight, so often those men are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:24 PM
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No it's not. That's the excuse pretending that sexualization isn't a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:24 PM
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But in the end it still can be broken down to fundamentally trying gain the attention of the opposite sex, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:21 PM
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The fact that you took this as a personal attack, shows why it's a foreign concept to you. This is 0% to do with emotions, logically, if I can get 100% certainty on the biggest issue in my life easily, why wouldn't I? Trust, but verify. You don't understand and you never will, uncertainty paternity is one of the biggest differences differentiating male and female behavior. Once again, try empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:46 PM
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You don't need "clinical levels of anxiety" to want to be certain about the most important thing in your entire life, it just exposes that woman have a tendency to take things personally and a lower ability to think in the abstract.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:38 PM
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An employer or contractee would never not pay on purpose! Imposible that it's from wrongdoing! Come on dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:01 AM
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Lol you made one argument that was immediately debunked, then repeated the already debunked argument four times. But sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:28 AM
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You're just digging a big hole in proving my point for me, so thanks... I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:26 AM
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"I have empathy" Explains in great detail why she has zero empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:18 AM
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Lol, it's okay to admit you're wrong. I explained why your argument is flawed, not agreeing with you is not ignoring, far from it. Continuing to double down on a lost argument isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:13 AM
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Cheating is the only scenario where that can happen. Don't be dense. Verifying isn't accusing, who really is the one being dense here? Does verifying in my bank account that my direct deposit is there the same as accusing my company of not paying me? No, of course not, that's completely silly. Then have both parents get tested 100% at the hospital. Because that'll stop babies from going home with the wrong parents if they get swapped at the hospital. Sure, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:53 AM
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Which really is a foreign concept to men, huh. Nice try at being snarky, but that literally makes no sense. Both men and women can/have been fasley accused many times. It's also ridiculous to call it "accusing", there's no one in this world who can be 100% sure there partner has never cheated, it's not even close to making the claim that your partner cheated just that science doesn't lie and we want equality in knowing our child is 100% ours, you know, once again, an uncertainty you will NEVER f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:38 AM
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CMV: Women will never understand questioning the paternity of their child, no evolutionary pressure at all in this regard. Really is a foreign concept to them, so they should be way more empathetic to men on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:25 AM
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I'd pick neither. I'd wait for at least a 6/10 nice girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:05 AM
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Hell no, this 50/50 everything has to be "equal" nonsense already has everyone so confused and lost in the modern world. It's basically made it impossible to solve or discuss social issues genuinely or in a mature manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:51 PM
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Because people expecting things of you is not slavery, get s grip. It's called being an adult. You'd rather be mad at the world and hate the great gift of life, pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:09 PM
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That's what you're ideology claims, that's far from reality. All you did was point out that people were extremely dirt poor and we were able to improve our standing of living as we got wealthier. That's not a contentious. The third world doesn't have these things, not because the "labor movement" hasn't saved them yet, it's the fact that they don't have the resources to implement them yet. Kids worked because it was a necessity most of the time to survive just as you see in much of the third wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:23 PM
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The absolute irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:13 PM
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People didn't have decent living standards back then because society was centered on dominating women nor because we "centered the family Dear god some people are so sheltered. That's some crazy history turning to fit your ideology. The word as a whole was living on a 1/20 of the wealth existing today. You need to visit the current third- world for a reality check pronto. The reality of your countries poverty has nothing to do with the countries family values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:13 PM
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Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:11 AM
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And isn't male suicide also at a high, so is this a case of society raising children poorly or of women specifically being squeezed. Already made this point and explained it you would know that if you actually tried to comprehend instead of pushing ideology. You could learn a lot here, I'm well versed in the data. Self harming for example. Extremely common in teenag- 20s girls. To the point where I don't know a girl that didn't self harm in some way. What age does this data start at? Women also …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:07 AM
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Women reporting depression, taking anxiety and depression medication and self harming is at all time high. But don't let facts get in your way of pushing a compelling narrative!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:39 PM
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Almost like nearly every country is getting richer. Further proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:23 PM
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You can repeat your clearly wrong ideological rhetoric all you want. The stats do not lie, women's mental health is at all time low and substantially worse off than men's, not that men's isn't low. Psychology statiscs don't lie, women are much more agreeable then men and less likely to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:53 PM
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If you don't participate in propagating and continuing society for those who are able to, why should society care about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:45 PM
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Yeah I would expect an anti-natalist to find even an ounce of personal responsibility comparable to slavery and totalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:33 PM
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Facts don't care about your feelings. The statistics don't lie. All this "free will to make yourself happy" nonsense has done is rob people of a cultural framework on how to live a productive fulfilling life. Replacing it is a common sense of grand confusion in how to find meaning because no, we're not all just special snowflakes capable of determining it ourselves, we rely heavily on our community and society at large to set our path, you know, the nature of being highly social beings at all. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:27 PM
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EVERY developing country is bellow replacement, this flies in the face of reality when you compare it to the poorest countries who have the largest fertility rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:35 PM
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Put down the feminist ideology for s second. This whole house of cards was built upon basically forcing women to depend on a man No, this whole house of cards was centered around putting the family at the forefront of culture in almost every aspect. We've completely lost that. That was the purpose of your life far from the "oppression" feminists paint it as today. And by statistics everyone was much happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:28 PM
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🧢🧢
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:05 PM
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Says the person trying to enforce the other extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:03 PM
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Stoicism, self control and fortitude are masculine ideals. No one is claiming your average man has them mastered. However there is great stoicism, self control and fortitude in not making them mistake of falling for a promiscuous women who gave you easy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:32 AM
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Our lust and primal urge is desperate to inflate said count, our post nut clarity and long-term rational thinking says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:13 AM
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Money. To give it up to a random dude is the ultimate betrayal for a guy. I'm supposed to be providing and protecting and you give your body away for nothing? Yeah, there's no recovering from that ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:41 PM
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If I meet a girl and even if it's going really well, it's immediately a deal breaker. The ones who are really in to it bring it up withing the first few minutes and it always makes me sigh. I could not date someone who thought that illogically.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:33 PM
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From my experience 75-80% B, even though many will claim a. Validation seeking is a huge reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:23 AM
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That's not the assumption though. The assumption many make is the only "damaged" women like continued casual sex. Sex in a committed relationship is kept separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:29 AM
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I don't believe anyone can truly think this is the case, at least if you understand men and women at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:18 AM
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I'm sorry what? Are we in the same sub? It's objectively the exact opposite on the sub. 99% of the time here it's feminists disputing the claimed that men and women are vastly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 10:04 PM
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If we banned the word insecure, the intelligence level of discussions in the sub would 10x
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:39 AM
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Going out of your way Nitpicking semantics aside. Drawing attention from the opposite sex single vs. in a relationship is a vastly different behavior. There's so many behaviors that change going from single to a relationship, why would how you dress be any different? How you dress is not an intrinsic quality that is untouchable. It's unreasonable for you to It's really not. If you date with intention, the more serious the relationship becomes the more your actions evolve around the relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:34 PM
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But you can't expect someone to go out of their way to minimize how much random people are attracted to them either. Uh, yeah I can. By asking them not to wear provocative clothing. You can't just expect him to stop swimming topless if that's always been his swimsuit. No, but you can say you don't want him wearing a banana hammock. Same as not wearing a small bikini. Your clothes absolutely can invite attention, there's agency to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:43 PM
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When your argument is exposed to have no logic, the incel attack is always next.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:28 PM
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insecure if care so much about minimizing how many other people would be attracted to your SO? You mean average respectful behavior in a relationship? Not going out of you way to get more people of the opposite sex attracted to you? You see how silly calling that insecure or controlling is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:27 PM
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The biggest lie that is forced into far reaching aspects of modern discourse is that everything is subjective. You can claim innocence in any matter by claiming there's no objective standards therefore I can't be judged. Showing your tits or ass, or accentuating them is objectively provocative. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:08 AM
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What if that female friend was actually interested in you and was just taking out the competition? Definitely a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:59 AM
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It's a control thing, as much as these type of women try and deflect It back to men. Why would you not want to do things for your partner? I want to control myself for my partner for the betterment of the relationship. I dated a woman for a few weeks a little bit ago. Red flags galore , "I've made friends off Tinder", "I don't usually dance like this with guys". I didn't get the chance to unpack this but she was a hyper Instagram user posting pictures of herself all the time, but when I asked he…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:54 PM
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Promiscuous women and extreme male validation seeking, my biggest ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:19 PM
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The biggest and most destructive lie in modern discourse is that objectivity isn't real. There's objectivity to almost everything and robbing that knowledge from people makes everyone's lives harder and causes unneeded suffering as people lose necessary guidance and built-up knowledge from the thousands of generations before us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:40 PM
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Ehh... you may not know if something is a problem till the relationship progresses or if they push the limits too far. I also want to watch my partners behavior in their natural state in the feel out state, I want them to be able to handle themselves respectfully without my prompting for the most part. I reject the modern notion that there's no objectivity in this. If I see their head is in the right place I'll pursue things on a deeper level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:47 PM
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I think it's completely appropriate to have standards for single vs. relationship behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:46 PM
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The real analysis here is that the dark triad women who push boundaries and try and shame you for feeling "insecurity" about their boundary pushing, have the potential to use that same shaming technique to try and ruin you publicly. Johnah is married with a newborn, this is her revenge for him not capitulating to her. Men, if you ever hear , "I'm doing it for myself", RUN, high chance you're dealing with a dark triad woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:23 AM
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It absolutely the exact opposite of a hostile environment for women. Literally the cushiest industry humanity has ever created. Dear god some people in the first world need perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:04 AM
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I for one want to set up a government initiative to strive for more equality in sanitation workers, I will not rest until this injustice is solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:01 AM
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No, because that's not equivalent at all. An equivalent would be if she asked him to stop hanging around other groupies even though that's how they linked up in the first place. Which is a completely reasonable thing to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:57 AM
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Unfortunately, his preferences would be unreasonable to most women. No, unreasonable to rad fem women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:47 AM
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Except you're straight up lying. He didn't say stop surfing. You've lied countless times on this thread already.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:44 AM
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And here you are being the real manipulator trying to shame men in to allowing their partner to disrespect them. Calling natural gut feeling uneasy feelings "insecurity" is the real control tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:43 AM
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Yes, marriage quality girls will do this without asking. No nonsense excuses ("I'm doing it for me"), just start operating in a manner that's conscious of how their behavior influences you, then you negotiate around the edges. If you have to list out what basic respect looks like in a relationship, 99% of the time it's already over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:40 AM
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She's upset that Jonah now has a family and a newborn. She as a typical dark triad female that is now trying to enact her revenge through social degradation. While men are the pusuers, women are the attractors. Attracting has much more plausible deniable and that's where the dark triad , "I'm doing it for myself", manipulation comes in to get out of respecting your partner and continue curating male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:11 PM
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This is the teen vouge definition, but most people don't abide by teen vouge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:01 PM
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Well it's such an absurd claim like saying the earth is flat, that you have to make sure you're not being trolled. Google Big 5 personality differences between the sexes. You have a lot of learning to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:21 PM
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I'm sorry... you can't be serious...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:36 PM
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Don't come in with a snide remark when you don't know what you're talking about, pretty simple. Knowing basic psychology makes you an edgy teenager nowadays I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:10 AM
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Women are much more socially aggressive then men. That's basic sex differences 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:08 PM
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You literally have to understand 0 about the personality differences between the sexes to think this. Arrogant ignorance fits the bill for so many women on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:01 PM
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Uhhhhh... no? Behavioral and cultural analysis presents the exact opposite conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:40 AM
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Here's my hypothesis. It stems from the fact that men have the physical advantage so they are more physically aggressive, women counteract it be currying social power and being more socially aggressive. When women are socially aggressive, you're not talking to someone interested in dialogue. You're talking to someone who is defending their main source of power by any means necessary, that self righteousness is manipulation, they'll shame and degrade anyone that they perceive as a threat to their…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:39 AM
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This is why this sub sucks, too many angry feminists here to regurgitate ideology instead of engage with the discussion. "But you should be able to see a woman’s body and not harass her, leer at her, get a boner, or demand she cover up." Yeah, literally no one here is claiming that. I will ask my partner to wear less revealing clothes though. You're also not a cavewoman, women don't have to use your physical assets as the main form of validation by the outside world. I've been to nude beaches🤣, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:32 AM
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Even giving you the benefit of the doubt, control what you can control, that's what respect is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:09 AM
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Your position is an emotional one not a factual one like 90% of rad fems who argue this. Get over being mad at nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:04 AM
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Goalpost moving. We started with outlier tits and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:58 PM
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Stop. You know what an outlier is and this fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:54 PM
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Try her best. Outliers don't prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:48 PM
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One piece or a two piece/bikini that doesn't have you ass hanging out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:46 PM
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Most guys don't object to western apparel. Stuff like this is what guys object to their partners wearing: Gym clothes are fine, skintight shorts that go up your ass crack aren't. Swimsuits are fine, thong/cheeky bikinis are not. Dresses are fine, ones where your tits are spilling out are not. Don't draw excessive to your tits and your ass and you've satisfied 95% of your average guys worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:21 PM
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Uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:16 PM
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Making men a monolith and pronouncing a false presumption doesn't make it so. By the way, Lip injections mimic how naturally a woman's lips get bigger in esterus. But please go on about how this argument is "disingenuous" 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:13 PM
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Uh huh that's exactly what I meant, what a pathetic response
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:59 PM
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Well, seeing that you are a member of a highly social species. To claim a provactice action is for yourself requires either an insane level of either delusion, narcissism or both. It's just a blatantly absurd thing to try and push as reality. There's no comprehending absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:25 PM
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It's adknowledging reality, you are a member of a highly social species, almost all your actions in public signal something one way or another. That will never change whether you accept it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:14 PM
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Damn, you took the thoughts out of my brain. Attracting is more implicit of an action giving women plausible deniability of the action which many nefarious women exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:04 PM
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It's not that we never "comprehended" it, it's that some of us refuse to go along with nonsense especially conveniently self-serving nonsense for the other person trying to push it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:58 PM
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Even giving the benefit of the doubt here that that's truly how you gauge it. Where do you think those feelings come from? Out of thin air? It's a mix of genes and socialisation telling you that what your wearing is attractive giving you good feelings because attraction gives you benefits socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:53 PM
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The literal concept of being sexy is being attractive to the opposite sex. That's why "I don't think about what men would like" makes no sense. You're just exploiting the plausible deniability around this because women aren't the pusuers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:45 PM
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Women signals availability while single. Woman continues to signal availability while in a relationship. Man is understandably upset. The issue isn't the dude. He has reasonable expectations around single vs. relationship behavior. The issue is the increasingly lack of maturity in the culture of the sacrifices required to build a strong healthy relationship. If I meet a women by asking her to dance, my interests didn't change because I stoped asking other women to dance once I'm in a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:34 PM
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Dude wasn't insecure. Single vs. relationship behavior is real. No, you're not the perfect person whose "authentic" self should never change, you should consistently be thinking how can I change to further my relationship. People disparaging him aren't mature enough to have that conversation yet. I personally think a lot of red fems purposefully play ignorant to this because shaming checks on their power is a way to maintain power over their partner and men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:30 AM
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Red pilled echo chamber meaning the real world outside radfem circles
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:13 AM
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No the complete opposite, the word controlling has been weaponized by some women so they can engage in monkeybranching and signalling availability without pushpack.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:02 PM
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The teen vouge commandment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:58 PM
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Lol continuing with this imagined narritave to rail against, try sticking to what actually is being said. You're the one that claimed that NO objectivity exists in maturity, which is blatantly false. Not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:07 PM
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I'm definitely talking to someone pretty young here. Lack of maturity is not subjective, we know how men and women behave on average, that's how we build healthy norms. Also, you're not driving away good women by having this as a standard, only the hyper attention seeking ones who don't want to give up crowd sourced male validation. BTW, you built up this whole narritave in your head to get mad at, but you have no idea how my relationships go 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:09 AM
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You're twisting a lack of maturity on the other partners part. I try and wow other women when I'm single, but I stop when in a relationship. Not that complicated. Wanting respect isn't insecurity, that's actually the biggest sign of security. Manipulating women always use that to try and shame men to bend to their wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:13 PM
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You don't know that until you're in a relationship for a while. I expect my partner to know the difference between single and relationship behavior and that takes time to observe. I know the difference and change my behavior accordingly. I control myself without being asked, control is the biggest part of building a relationship. But trust me, I'm breaking up with any girl that can't agree to limit disrespectful behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:03 PM
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It's not that deep, it's just semantics games to call asking for respect controlling. Controlling is not letting you see your friends or family. Asking you to no advertise yourself to other men is basic respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:57 AM
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I do say something, I don't buy in to this new age nonsense that requesting basic respect related things from you partner is "controlling". It's potrayed as controlling by the women who don't truly want to sacrifice validation and backup options other men give them. They say nonsense like, women get hit on no matter what they wear, that's true, but we're talking about ACTIVELY inviting more male attention something more modest clothes don't do. Pretending like your actions have no influence is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 01:06 AM
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A partner can be your best motivation to grow and change. Just have to have the right mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:41 AM
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The biological reality is that a huge part of women offer in a relationship is their body for reproduction, its supply and demand, simple as that. Any other answer is cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:22 AM
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Why do you get to decide that your sexual behaviors and views don't matter? Only in preposterous modern thought could you think the literal basis of relationships shouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:40 PM
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Yeah, let's just go in to marriage and relationships blind, great idea. Don't want to be weak!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:34 PM
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No way that's platonic. You've rejected him already before. This is why girl/guy best friends 99% of the time are a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:27 AM
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Don't think either case is deceptive honestly. If a guy wants to hangout with you 9/10 times you can assume he's interested in you at some level, whether he explicitly states it or not. There is also just getting to know eachother first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:14 PM
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You're amazed that spending more time with a guy you know likes you may lead to him trying something? Welcome to basic human attraction 101. Imagine I belittled a woman for having feelings for me while I didn't like her but still continued to hang out with her, Id be rightfully an asshole. You're probably keeping him around for some sweet validation anyways, but dear god he tries to get something out of the relationship, then he's a bad person! This is what we call being deluded about reality. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:44 AM
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JFC, it's not predatory, you are whoever naive to think they wouldn't have said something by now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:32 AM
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Depends if it's cheeky haha... BTW, you dropped this 👑, I respect honesty over everything else <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:31 AM
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Keep being angry at nature. Yell at the clouds and shake your fist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:25 AM
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Yes, how stupid of men, just override basic human nature. Why haven't they thought of that yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:23 AM
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Ah so deluded was the right choice, got you!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:14 AM
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No offense but women are often woefully naive on this subject. Only possible in certain circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:10 AM
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Like sorry the woman was too naive or dislusioned to understand the basics of a cross gender relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:12 AM
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Sounds like the woman in this scenario is either extremely naive or dislusioned in the first place in the scenario if she didn't understand this. Most women consciously or subconsciously know that there is almost always some underlying tension. Why is it manipulative or cowardly? The attraction can take awhile to build up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:11 AM
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No, thank you. I'm not going to be your backup option/orbiter/validation object. I actively avoid girls romantically who say they've made "friends" like this, strong male attention seeking behaviors is my biggest red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:06 AM
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And that's why I will never have a partner that dresses scantily
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:22 PM
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Calling that trauma is insulting to people who've actually experienced trauma. That's just called maturing and understanding nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:11 AM
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Men and women different, next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:27 PM
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But life is about picking the few right doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:56 AM
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A huge reason yes. Dating apps are so distorted towards women that they try and punch way above their weight class on the apps, the problem is, that distortion doesn't carry over to real life. Leaving everyone involved frustrated. This is solved by men having higher standards on the apps and women realizing that they have to give guys more their level a chance on the apps. This will never happen though, collective action problems with no enforcement mechanisms always end badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:14 PM
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I dated one for a bit, she was definitely lost and not ready for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:33 AM
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Opposed to the actual evidence showing that for promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:21 PM
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If you truly value logic over emotion, then you should realize that you have don't have mention a small minority when talking about generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:27 AM
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Feminists always claim women have no agency when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:38 PM
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Lol responded to the wrong one, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:38 PM
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Feminists always claim women have no agency when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:23 PM
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The non-pc real answer but the real one and everyone that has experience with promiscuous girls knows is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:42 AM
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1) Sometimes, but often it's just a sign of impulsivity, not that less promiscuous girls don't enjoy sex as much. 2) Promiscuity doesn't affect this unless you're a virgin, a woman who's had a few stable partners can find that out much quicker than someone who has had many short casual flings. 3) Only if you view sleeping with random dudes that don't care about you as "missing out" on an important life adventure. 4) Like before, someone in a long-term stable relationship can be vastly more exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:55 PM
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Wouldn't be offended or move on, a girl making me wait is another indicator that our values align. It's a woman that understands her value who is less likely to have a promiscuous past. A win for me in the long-term. If you don't have the fortitude of patience as a guy, you don't deserve the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:52 PM
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Self-serving narcissistic way to view it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:45 PM
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That "contrarian" study you linked has been debunked so many times. Dude completely misrepresented the data to reach that conclusion. Money for a few years when you're young, but at what eventual cost? Debunking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:22 PM
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You made the bad life choice to become a prostitute, don't take it out on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:16 PM
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Yeah that just not even close to reality. Studies show worsening mental health especially for women across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:13 PM
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Respect for herself. Less mental baggage. STDs. Attracting a man that will actually commit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:50 PM
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Should be required reading for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:39 PM
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Welcome to reality. You can't stop all bad things but your choices will have an influence on how often they occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:32 PM
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Sorry, you have agency, you want to deny it because then you can escape accountability. You ignored the insta example because it's case closed. Someone in a revealing dress and someone in a frumpy church dress will both get unwanted attention at some point, but we BOTH know which one will get it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:12 AM
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What gets more likes from guys on Instagram, a woman in sweater drinking coffee or that same woman in a small bikini or revealing dress? Let's be real. If you have bare minimum respect for your man, you won't try and gaslight him and call it "controlling".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:47 PM
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I hate to tell you this, but pretending women have absolutely zero agency on the attention the receive is insulting to our intelligence. What gets more likes from guys on Instagram, a woman in sweater drinking coffee or that same woman in a small bikini. Let's be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:44 PM
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The rad fem women on here will make it into rocket science though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:39 PM
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The amount of narcissism and lack of maturity needed to believe this is controlling is why everyone is lonelier then ever as less people want to make the sacrifices necessary to create deep relationships. Respect your partner. It also doesn't matter if you wore it when single, you were single, this isn't hard. You change your behaviors to respect your partner while in a relationship and if you don't understand that you're not ready for a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:38 PM
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The impending population crisis shows we can only be so hedonistic and narcissistic centered on relationships for so long before we pay severe prices. Relationships are about the stability of the family and society first and foremost, with fun and leisure being necessarily secondary. We have that completely ass backwards, there's no inherent sense of duty and respect in the dating culture. Men leading women along in situationships, women blasting their ass all over social media for "themselves" …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:47 PM
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Feminists always playing the victim. Now be fair. Who performs work on the house? The yard work? The cars? Who is the protector?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:36 PM
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Because by every objective measure they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:25 PM
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What a ridiculous strawman, still plenty of time to be a SAHM and receive a college education.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:04 PM
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Yeah it's almost like feminists always find a way to make women the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:29 PM
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I was thinking about this recently. Access to sex is the main bargining tool women have for men to commit. If a guy is bisexual, that devalues that tool a lot as we all know how easy gay guys are, he can go get sex just as easy as your average woman. I think women instinctually understand this and leads them to be weary of bisexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:26 PM
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Sure we would bud, not believing in ridiculous feminist ideology means I have to treat women like shit, brilliant argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:19 PM
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Go experience actual slavery for one day and you would never think to make this ridiculously absurd claim in a thousand years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:42 PM
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No, just that subs like twoXchromosomes makes women bitter with hateful rhetoric as much as incel subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:14 PM
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Ahh the arrogant regurgitated shaming strategy. Ideology isn't reality pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:55 PM
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I wouldn't say very easily, but much easier than women? Objectively true. Women on average on higher are higher in negative emotion, that alone will take more to satisfy the average women. Women are also the natural choosers due to their sexual access being worth more. At a macro level it's not really even debatable that overall it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:36 PM
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Lol always will find a Radfem to turn it into a victim narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:20 PM
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"without any real metrics" you got me, totally not countless studies showing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:33 AM
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You're going to get offended at the objective fact that STD rates are much higher in the gay community because of the communities heightened level of promiscuity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:53 AM
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Narcissistics usually find everything condescending, go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:34 AM
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Damn you are unhinged. Only extreme narcissists get this vicious so quickly. Probably should check yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:06 AM
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That's just your woman brain not understanding men's concerns. Men's competition is the tribe, women's competition is usually another woman trying to extract resources( can be something as simple as Instagram likes).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:35 PM
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Last GF posted attention seeking pics, made it clear that if she did that, she was a disrespecting me and if she was disrespecting me I wouldn't be in a relationship with her. She took them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:21 PM
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Why are you comparing (men and women) that aren't the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:19 AM
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The fair comparison for porn is like reading 50 shades of grey for a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:19 AM
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Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:53 AM
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A) It's directed at everyone is the better way to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:49 AM
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Not even close to how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:50 AM
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This is called weeding out the guys who aren't serious about you, it's not "inconsistent". Quality over quantity. Men will absolutely have sex with girls they would never date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:14 PM
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This is where lady in the streets freak in the sheets comes from. Do I want my wife to being lingerie when I come home from work? Hell yeah! Do I want her to wear lingerie to the club and shake her ass for everyone? Hell no. It's a certain type of guy that lusts over the Riley Reid types, those soley focused on short term hookups, those that you'd have to pull teeth with to commit to begin with. For me with a longer term mindset, the Riley Reid types turn me off immediately, the women dressed mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:11 AM
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It's not just a moral issue. You're only painting it as that because it fits your narrative. I already gave you a prime example why it's vastly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:09 PM
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Lol I just saw you claim sex isn't easier to obtain for women, have you ever tried to understand men for one second?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:08 PM
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You just proved his point. Your definition of "lies" is reality you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:43 PM
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Yes it does because the sexes differ in many ways including with how sex effects each of us. Just a quick example, male hormones are highest before sex and female are highest after, that's a crazy big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:16 PM
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Sorry those are some gymnastics to not acknowledge the differences between male and female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:07 PM
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Did you really just say a man can't get pregnant? Bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 10:20 PM
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Weird way to talk about reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:36 PM
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The fertility rate being far below replacement level in ALL devolped countries shows that we need to get serious about putting the family first again in culture. We're currently living in complete denial of objective reality on this issue and we're going to pay for it hard in just a few years. The biggest lie we currently tell women is that your career is just as important as a family, sometimes even more so. You end up with women manically depressed when a family becomes an impossibility after …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:27 PM
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Not in favor of making them laws, but the breaks others people's rights is debatable. Society stabilization is required for those "rights" in the first place, there are instances where that rightfully would be prioritized first. The draft is the best example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:14 AM
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Sorry, I'll pass on the nothing matters attitude. We need to bring back shame for behaviors that are bad for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:03 AM
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Stop acting like most most males don't share these preferences. You don't want to admit that fact because you feel it to be morally "wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:22 AM
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Women will come up with so many bizarre explanations to try and shame male preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:02 AM
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No, that's just what some women like to call it to shame male preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:59 AM
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Depends what you define as cheating. Men are much more inclined to cheat physically. Women keeping orbiters and backup options strung along may even it out completely or surpass it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:04 PM
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No, only a childish minds view discipline as oppression and immediately resort to personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:18 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:21 AM
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Yes, freedom is not a universal good. Sexual restraints we're developed for good reason not for "oppression". Your average person is better off with the restraints as it makes life less complicated and easier to fulfill long term marriage strategies which stabilizes society and relationships as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:14 AM
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"Everything I don't agree with is made up!!!" Third option was delusional and you're clearly number three.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:45 PM
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I've had this conversation with multiple women. Most of the time the woman has brought it up first. I usually just try and observe. What does she post on social media? What does she wear? Have a lot of guy "friends"? Tattoos? How do her friends behave? Going for drinks early on is a great time to observe, how much does she entertain other guys and seek their approval? Overall on the lookout for attention seeking behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:09 AM
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That's just objectively false.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:52 AM
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You seemed to have not learned what a generalization is. Without someone explicitly stating they are talking universally it's either ignorant or disingenuous to take it as implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:51 AM
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They're not offended, upset or intimidated. They're biologically less attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:46 AM
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No, someone whose confident in themselves walks away from a statistically suboptimal situation because they believe they can obtain an optimal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:43 AM
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It's pretty normal. Many women have asked me this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:36 AM
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You're the one that associated the average male preference with psychological issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:34 AM
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That's like saying a woman worried about how much her man makes are likely to have a multitude of other physiological issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:15 AM
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Don't know about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:54 PM
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It was based much more than that but go ahead and have the cookie you desperately want. You're arguing semantics not the actual point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:16 AM
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I backed it up with reasoning, anecdotal is a one off example. I didn't see anything as an "attack", this isn't personal, just my thoughts on maladjusted people as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:12 AM
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I didn't say one anecdote? I wrote from my experience, but what I wrote clearly isn't anecdotal. And I didn't write any vs. statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 03:23 AM
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I don't think you can generalize from your personal anecdotes. From my experience, low status men are because they're ignored by so many especially women. While you also have the genius/borderline autistic men way more interested in systems rather than people. For women really hot women are often the most maladjusted because they never had to learn the social skills or respect boundaries to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 12:38 AM
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My last relationship ended with like this, had been getting to know eachother for about a month at that point. We slept together Sunday and Tuesday of that week, planned to take her on a date that weekend. She had a ONS on Thursday with a random from a bar. Had the audacity to text me Friday morning, wish I could have seen you last night. Didn't find out about it till months later. The contempt I had for her over this eventually killed the relationship. Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:09 AM
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Exactly, if you can't sacrifice sleeping with others to feel eachother out, how in the world are you going to make the immense sacrifices it takes to build a long trustful relationship? It shows me your mental framework around relationships isn't mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:02 AM
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And the modern dating world is the loneliest, anxious and depressed on record. Not the gold standard I'm going to be taking tips from. No one wants to sacrifice anything to build a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 03:55 AM
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Yes! I love opportunities early on to see how they'll behave. Had this recently happen on a second date. We were getting some drinks, when another guy started flirting and hitting on here. I was off to the side chatting with a friend I saw out. My friend said , "you should probably get back there". I said, " no this is perfect, it's a great time to observe."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 03:50 AM
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After around date 3, instinctually people understand that you're on the border of exclusivity starting to be implied. I find the statement "If you want exclusivity, you need to make it clear" beyond narcissistic. When I'm talking to multiple women, I KNOW that it can cause massive hurt feelings if I don't make it clear. To me, it's a cop out from accepting any responsibility on how your actions affect others and therefore you're not relationship material. The oneous is on the person who can caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:36 PM
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There's a difference between commitment and basic respect. After around date 3, if you want to see other people you need to make that explicitly clear as it's leading towards a relationship and not making that clear is blatant disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:13 PM
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Who claimed that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 06:28 PM
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How far courting has fallen. How could it not be a deal breaker? How could I even make the determination whether I would commit to someone without seeing relationship conducive behavior? Relationships are fluid, they don't have a clean start and end date like the "modern PC" dating bylaws claim. If you want the relationship to be respectful, the foundation needs to be built on respect, not this hedonistic view that we're 100% free until we say the magic words "we're together". Children need rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 06:27 PM
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Women settle for commitment. Men settle for one partner for access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 06:41 AM
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Clinical narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:14 PM
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I think you've find the dichotomy of male behavior. Aggressive, jealous men controlled harems. Short term, can work, but is fragile and other aggressive men are waiting for their time to takeover. While, systemizing men were able to produce system that produced resources granting them mating access. Almost all people in prison are males but on the flip side almost all CEOs are male. For women, the human infant is extremely vulnerable for years, the gestation period is too short for the infant to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:50 AM
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It's competition. The "system" is just normal human competition, I want to look the best to attract the best mate and obtain a higher status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 01:15 AM
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I see a lot of people say it shows insecurity. Women saying it doesn't change much. It's comparable to makeup for women, does makeup show insecurity? 1-2 inches changes alot. It can take you from the 50 percentile to the 75th percentile, and from the 75th to the 90th. It absolutely makes you much more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 01:10 AM
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Does makeup show insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 01:07 AM
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Nonsense, it's not hypocritical if we're different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:15 PM
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It's different regardless of your anedectotal preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:11 PM
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This misconception around the subject has been created to put down men for their preferences. It has nothing to do with jealousy or insecurity and everything to do with finding it unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:08 PM
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Wasting time absolutely isn't a social construct, women's fertility makes it instinctual. I don't agree that men playing the field always goes against good cooperation, women like men that have other women's validation, look at why incel is such a popular insult by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:47 PM
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Ahh didn't know I was dealing with a social constructionist. Respect is at least 80% biological, those good at long-term cooperation benefited. Even manipulators know what the norms of cooperation look like, because they have to put on a face of those norms to manipulate. Father's often decided, but the women were still courted by men and it was usually a discussion between the father and daughter, not a unilateral decision. The women discusses whether he's a good fit, while the father scoped hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:01 PM
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2.3% of Americans are gay or bisexual. Yeah that's an outlier. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-gay-usa-idUKKBN0FK2BE20140715
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:52 PM
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You're missing the forest for the trees. Keeping score meant looking at everything as tit for tat. It's still transactional if it's not tit for tat, I provide love to you and do my best to be a good husband and I provide love to you and do my best to be a good wife. Transactional doesn't have to be cold and ruthless like a business dealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:47 PM
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I disagree, I think it's mostly instinctual, men and women have evolved together for tens of thousands of years. There is a large degree of instinct to respect. I agree communication is key, but I think it's actually "childish" that a conversation has to be had, like we're school children that can't follow basic social norms without being explicitly told. If you want it casual, that needs to be explicitly stated. If you want to continue seeing others after a few dates, that needs to be explicitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:39 PM
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I just don't see how someone could determine whether they want a relationship without some trial behavior of a relationship, to me it's basic respect, I stop pursuing others after date 2-3 without being asked. Exclusive sexually, yes,(if sex even happens before the relationship, I'm completely okay if she wants commitment first) but that's far different then an exclusive committed intimate relationship. Exclusivity in a relationship comes with far more demands on both partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:18 PM
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I mean personally, if you can't go a few weeks without fucking someone else while we feel eachother out, it wasn't going to work anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:06 PM
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"Here's an outlier situation, therefore your argument is invalid" That's not how general discussions work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:04 PM
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Bro you're not enlightened. At it's core each relationship is transactional. Just for good long-term ones you both work to provide value and love to one another without keeping score. You haven't transcended this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 06:57 PM
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Few reasons. Men are more interested in systems and women are more interested in people. When men discuss these topics, it's often from a depersonalized view point, discussing it like you'd discuss any other framework. Women think people first and since this "system" is about people, it gets personalized immediately. Also, social validation has always meant safety for women more than men, so discussing criticisms of women in general can be taken as a threat to that social validation and as a dir…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:46 AM
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Do everything, workout, keep yourself neatly groomed. Find well fitting clothes. Take care of yourself, get enough sleep. Women will always find most men unattractive, just have to improve yourself to the best of your ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:15 PM
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Why? This isn't about morality either, this is about selecting for the optimal partner. Women hold me to a different standard that they don't meet and that's okay. These include: height, income, strength, ambition, willingness to protect, some women even like a man that's already been vetted by other women. The feminine and masculine coming together is beautiful, I'm not going to put an artificial barrier on it by trying to achieve "perfect" equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:27 PM
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Why is it okay for men but not women? Sigh, impossible to discuss these issues in depth and objectively with this mindset. It's like, men and women are different, now can we get to actually discussing the subject at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:59 AM
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No, men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:48 AM
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We're talking about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:28 PM
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The fundamental basics of evolutionary psychology is only a dream to the ignorant or the delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:19 PM
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LOL at thinking what I said is random or made up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:48 PM
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I was being sarcastic lol. There's clearly a difference between a ONS attraction and attraction for commitment. The point stands regardless of quibbling over semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:52 AM
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Convincing argument
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:46 AM
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We're clearly talking about attraction for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:38 AM
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Nah it's literally that men want to be sure the child they're providing resources to is theirs. That's one of the biggest evolutionary Ls that can happen to a man. If a man knows you don't just give it up to anyone, the more assured he is in paternity. If you don't think that's evolutionary, you're lying to yourself. Some women just don't want to accept it because it's inconvenient and requires restraint on their behavior to be attractive so they make up some crazy social explanations like you'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:35 AM
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Bro, like I already said, all of the pros have downsides. But that goes for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:18 AM
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1) Value isn't tied to youth. 2) Sexual choices aren't t judged as harshly. 3) Much less unwanted sexual attention. 4) Value isn't tied so heavily to physical looks. 5) What men are judged on strength,income,confidence etc. can all be improved with focus and work 6) Jackpot potential, if you're a Chad, your partner potential is basically unlimited This is a great exercise, as almost all pros have downsides and those downsides are pros for women and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:05 AM
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Evolutionary instincts are considered insecure only to people who don't want to accept or understand reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:55 AM
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They vast majority of men don't consider to vast majority of women to be provocative. I know because I observe behavior and stay away from these types, it's usually quite obvious. Radfems just try and deny agency when the agency leads to bad consequences for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:32 PM
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This is infantalizing women. It's like saying a man that flashes his money everywhere had no way to avoid getting taken advantage of by a women for his money. Men and women both have vast agency in what they attract by how they act. Some men and some women will always try to take advantage, but it's about reducing chances, it will never be eliminated completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:03 PM
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I'm mid 20s, just recently started dating for real long term intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:42 PM
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Just considering fertility, after 35 it's a steep decline for women. You only get 5 years of good fertility with a 30 year old woman vs. 15 with a 20 year old. This is where that attraction for younger comes from. I only date younger women for this reason, longer term family planning is a massive advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:48 AM
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Women still signal and compete with eachother. But, that's beside the point. Different outfits mean different things in different contexts. I've hung around with my guy friends in boxers countless times and nothing is thought of it, but I don't demand others to perceive me that way if I go in public, that's completely delusional, but that's standard thought for rad fems. Soccer, football, baseball and tennis players outfits aren't even revealing. And no one is mistaking the cycling onesie as bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:32 AM
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Stats back up men finding young women the most attractive no matter their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 03:59 AM
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I see this claim by radfems all the time, but it's just a strawman to not actually deal with argument. It's usually extremely obvious when a women is trying to be provocative. No one is confusing the quiet woman in a baggy sweater, jeans and vans as being provocative. The more revealing, the tighter the outfit, it's not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 02:37 AM
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And many attractive women treat the gym like a club with skimpy skin tight outfits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 02:20 AM
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I think almost all understand it. Some just don't want to accept the reality because it's inconvenient. They want the benefit of being highly desirable and hyper-sexualized without any of the drawbacks. They want to shame men for the drawbacks, but don't want to mention that the benefits are from men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 02:14 AM
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Robbers are going to rob my house no matter if I lock my doors or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 02:07 AM
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Push up bra look good doe
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 02:03 AM
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Be confident and show your interest, but don't over do it, don't be too eager, don't put her on a pedestal. It's not received as being genuinely interested in her, it's received as being desperate for any women, as you don't know her well enough to be infatuated with anything other than a caricature of an ideal women you'd like to be in a relationship withm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 02:01 AM
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Center sex around reproduction again instead of pleasure in culture. Men would have to work harder to obtain sex, women would be pickier on who gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:27 AM
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"That's not a person that's an ideologically possessed NPC. Run. " 💀💀 So true though, I avoid these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:31 AM
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Oh please, your value to your partner should be at the forefront. Relationships are mostly about sacrifice and responsibility to your other half. It's not something to get offended over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:47 PM
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There's no issues, just don't male attention seek and we're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:03 PM
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Biology >>> Nurture. Those that disagree ,99% of the time are using self-seving reasoning because if it's mostly biology, then the human behavior they don't think is "fair" isn't able to be changed. Human nature has been crafted through evolution over millions of years and culture is crafted around these biological instincts, only a small part of culture is truly random. Biology is logically and empiricaly the most dominant force. Hell, male monkeys choose traditional male toys and female monkey…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:22 AM
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The desire to have sex is the inate desire to have children as that's the natural result of the action. The conscious mind may determine not to want children and all that entails. But unconsciously, if you want sex, you want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 06:32 AM
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Nah, libertarianism is an ideal that sounds great in theory but fails in reality. The world and life is far too complicated to expect everyone to determine what will make them happy in most regards, the vast majority of those "rules" aren't oppressive, they're guidance for the average person put it in place after learning from history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 07:42 PM
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Yup, just look at the gay sex statistics. The average gay man has 3 times the amount of sex partners compared to a straight man or woman. It's always hilarious to me that ignoring the complications of sex and the gender dynamics of sexual relationships is considered the "mature" ideal to some, human nature is just not bendable to that extent, the mature thing is to realize that and work through the complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 07:26 PM
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To me, that's a cop out. Responsibility isn't something to evade, it's something to purposefully bare. Looking out for eachother should be the norm, especially with someone I'm about to be intimate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 07:10 PM
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Haha OP is pulling all the parroted shaming rebuttals on you. "Mature and rational adults", "you're spreading toxic masculinity", "You're close minded about women having fun" , "sexist against men thinking we're not emotional "🤣🤣 In my experience, you're 100% right, women just can't. My "FWB" or situationships have almost universally led to hard feelings about the lack of commitment. A man of certain maturity realizes the weight sex can have on a woman's emotions and those claiming otherwise are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:54 PM
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I don't think that's incredibly clear. We can argue around the edges, obviously the myth of the pure virgin giving her self to one man for life isn't exactly reality. But what's been absolutely proven is that women almost universally are centered on long term dating strategies. Men may be satisfied sexually with one partner, the median for men in history is 0, that doesn't mean they're not craving for more, just the fact of having a consistent mate is already successful as a man. Sexual desire i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:00 AM
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Marriage and a strong monogamous culture is a tacit truce that ends much of the power struggle between the sexes. Primally, men desire sex from a variety of mates. Primally, women desire commitment, protection and provision and optimally from the highest status man. These two desires are at complete odds and lead to consistent battles and acts of exploitation from both sexes. Marriage solves this by requiring sacrifices from both sexes. Men sacrifice the opportunity for variety of mates to secur…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:06 AM
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I went in to the bigger picture and you just completely disregarded it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:41 PM
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There's a difference between being a complete slob and a women heading the household chores. The later just goes in to the nature of men and women and why working towards absolute equality in a relationship is a fools game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:12 PM
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They don't. Some of you are trying to deflect with this extreme example which ignores that women could ever be responsible for getting lazy in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:57 PM
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Men get frustrated with the lack of sex. Women have less sexual desire as they feel their partner starts to slack in certain areas. Rinse and repeat. Both get lazy, just in different ways. Regardless of which side you're experiencing, have direct communication with your partner, put your ego aside and try to break the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:22 AM
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And maybe they'd pick up their socks and do the dishes if they got more sex. Two sides to this. Both need to sustain effort or it starts to fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:14 AM
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This is definitely true, however, a woman not having sex with her man is the getting lazy and comfortable flip side for men. It's a two-way street. Both feed of the perceived lack of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:11 AM
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Many have , women fight socially and cancel culture as a whole is an extension of this. A lot of hateful stuff is rightfully banned, but "wrong" opinions that are nowhere close to hateful can get you wiped on this site.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:51 AM
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"Maybe it's because I'm a woman, but I've never understood" Yeah, that's exactly the reason you will never intrinsically understand. It's a fundamental source of respect for men. Many women do understand this though, which is why incel and small dick are common insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:35 AM
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Because both men and women struggle for power. However men have the physical advantage and so they fight more physically. Women at the physical disadvantage fight much more through social manipulation. Take power while doing their best to convince others they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:24 AM
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Oh yeah 100%, Asia is fucked as a whole, the exponential decays will destroy nations within a few generations. Instead of Build that Wall, we need to Build that Bridge on the southern border lol, immigrants will be fought over in the near future. Japan is running a government campaign to get young people to drink, need those mistake babies to boost the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:09 AM
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You should watch videos on the dynamic in China. The killing of female babies due to the One Child policy has made it extreme. Women want men to have 2,3,4 properties before they'll consider them. I wonder how much of this dynamic has cotribured to China's meteoric rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:20 AM
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I think the real issue is that it's not "PC" to mention the benefits of this attention or that exploiting these benefits too hard can lead to bad consequence. Women are right to feel miffed about certain aspects of it though, it can be downright dangerous. Just like men feel rightfully miffed about certain aspects of the dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:55 AM
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Quite the opposite, the harder men have to work for sex, the more they have to improve to meet that standard. This is what the sexual liberation movement gets so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:32 AM
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Why can a housewife not escape? Alimony and child support was implemented for that reason. Most people graduate college at 22, no reason why you can't have an education and some work experience to fall back on while still becoming a SAHM. On the flip side, many women would contend that missing out on the opportunity to raise their own kids is very risky to their own life fulfillment and their children's devolpment. 0-3 years of devolpment decides the vast majority of who the person will become, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 07:45 AM
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Relax with the hysterics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:33 PM
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Lol you're talking like you're posting to an incel group. Women SHOULD be guarded around sex, that increases your attractiveness to men looking for a LTR and the sensible decision for women, as sex has much higher costs for women. But no, you should not be "rude" about it or feel victimized over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:24 PM
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Uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 07:09 PM
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The way I see it, the decent women won't take offense and the ones who would get offended, I'm not interested anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 07:01 PM
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Men have the physical advantage so their warfare leans physical. Women lacking the physical advantage, evolved more socially so their warfare leans towards social manipulation. " I'll behave how I want and I'll shame you and try to ruin your reputation if you don't accept it.". Don't be mistaken, this is absolutely a form of social warfare to escape accountability and gain power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:58 AM
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You were talking about random dudes giving you unwanted attention. Nice try with the gotcha. Goodbye for now though, I'm not going to go back and forth with purposeful delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:53 AM
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Uh huh. When women talk about problems the usually just want to vent and receive validation. When men talk about problems they're more focused on solutions. This exchange is a perfect example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:43 AM
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Yes, you've discovered the world isn't perfect or foolproof. Venting that fact is not going to change the reality of modest clothing however.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:00 AM
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Nonsense, men are extremely visual creatures. Wearing modest clothing will reduce sexual attention it's an absolute certainty. It won't eliminate it completely though, nothing will, it just vastly reduces the men who will objectify you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:50 AM
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So your argument is, there's no perfect solution therefore there's no point trying at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:42 AM
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And people get robbed when their doors are locked. Doesn't mean I'm not going to lock my doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:39 AM
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Are you telling me that a completely different genetic chromosome that affects every cell in the body leads to differences? What a ridiculous concept, you're actually just a pig!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 01:52 AM
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A lot of feminist talking points try and muddy the waters around the issue, put the answer is basic. It has almost nothing to do with being 'insecure" about the quality of the other man. Women iniate 80% of breakups anyways, so it's most likely she found him inadequate in someway. The real crux is that paternity is not ensured for men, the more sexually selective a woman is, the more the uncertainty around paternity decreases which increases the willingness of the man to provide resources and pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:58 AM
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No this is a shaming rebuttal that's been created to try and shame males out of their instincts and preferences. Paternity is not ensured for men, the more sexually selective a woman is, the more the uncertainty around paternity decreases which increases the willingness of the man to provide resources and protection. This is fundamental evolutional biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:51 AM
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Watch what they do, not what they say. This is just regurgitated feminist ideology. From experience, women want a strong man, not an emotional man. Women wants a man that will take charge, they don't actually want complete "equality" in the relationship. Even sexually, the vast majority of women I've been with got turned on and received pleasure from being dominated, if that doesn't say something about deep primal attraction, I don't know what does. On the flip side, you raise your standards wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:43 PM
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Height attraction is anything but shallow, tall men have more reach, i.e can punch without being punched, a huge leg up in protection. Almost all universal physical preferences have deeply ingrained evolutionary reasons that are anything but shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:29 AM
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I'll give you a honest profile review
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:15 AM
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They already realize it. Just as men realize height, income, muscles matter. Less promiscuity means a higher chance of pertanity which leads to a higher chance of a man being willing to commit resources(which come from what women find attractive). These are some of our deepest ingrained biological instincts, I think everyone understands it to some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:51 AM
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