fuschiaoctopus Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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–	What are you going to do when your partner ages? It's a hyperbole for how ridiculous their rant was. Responding to their rant joking about how ridiculous it is isn't a personal insult. In what way is ranting about your fictional idea of women and baseless generalizations productive conversation, or anything that warrants a legitimate response beyond "yeah that is ridiculous"? This entire sub has become nothing but a place to further incite gender wars and a circlejerk for incels that actual women have no interest participating in, which only e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 09:29 PM
–	What are you going to do when your partner ages? Never been drier than this whole rant man I am this close to swearing off the male race forever	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:44 PM
1	The group photo of the Men's PPD Meet Up! Thanks for coming everyone! Great fun was had and interesting opinions on women were shared. Yeah 1 or two likes is a lot especially if you have the social skills to pull a convo after the match. You can get 500 matches a day and it doesn't matter if you don't message or hit every girl on your matches with "hey beautiful" in a mass message daily. It's not even that hard, comment on something in their pics or profile (not a cheesy pun ESPECIALLY not name pun unless you're sure it is original gold they have NEVER heard, don't go obvious) and you're already standing out from the sea of "he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 05:08 PM
1	The group photo of the Men's PPD Meet Up! Thanks for coming everyone! Great fun was had and interesting opinions on women were shared. I have never seen or heard a woman say anything about Indian dudes beyond the weird dudes who hit on you on fb. Then again I live in the US and don't frequent incel forums which seem to be the main place people who are not Indian obsess over Indian men in a toxic way so it makes sense I wouldn't see that. Now, have I heard men say horrible things about Indian women? Many times. But there's not a single race, class, trait or characteristic about women that I haven't seen men talking down on at le…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 04:54 PM
5	The group photo of the Men's PPD Meet Up! Thanks for coming everyone! Great fun was had and interesting opinions on women were shared. That's not really a flex bro they think you're their age because you dress like a high schooler lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 04:51 PM
1	A 4/10 dude asks 100 girls out on a date. Interesting results. Damn every time I read a comment that makes me think "this person actually makes sense and understands women" in this thread it's always from you so kudos for that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 03:16 AM
1	What do you do if you are an unattractive commitment phobic man who doesn't want to visit sex workers? This. Many posters on this sub seem to think the world and other sex would have to all bend itself to their will and magically change to benefit them most for nothing in return. All you can change is yourself and how you react to your circumstances. You can change yourself to be desirable to women or a partner they'd want to have sex with but you cannot force all women to give you sex unconditionally for free outside of a relationship for absolutely nothing in return, no orgasm on their part, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/22 09:02 PM
2	What do you do if you are an unattractive commitment phobic man who doesn't want to visit sex workers? Based on what? Where's any of this coming from except a few anecdotal men you may know who claim this happened to them and they had absolutely no part in it whatsoever and totally weren't a bad or abusive partner and there's no reason at all their wives left, grown adult children want nothing to do with them by choice, and the courts set alimony or child support based entirely on their own income. Plus men could get child support if they wanted custody but most don't, 20% walk out on their kids …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/22 08:57 PM
2	The fact that women are so repulsed by dick pics or photos of naked men is proof that they are not anywhere near as horny as men I'm not saying all men have poor performance (though I find 99% do and hookups/casual sex will never be decent for the woman because sex as we understand it currently is based entirely on what men enjoy and not what women physically can cum from, and unless you're dating they have zero incentive to please you), but escorting is not good quality sex. Which is understandable, they are paying to do what they enjoy and I don't expect it to be good for me, but it's ridiculous to think I will be so wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/22 01:00 PM
7	The fact that women are so repulsed by dick pics or photos of naked men is proof that they are not anywhere near as horny as men Lmaooo they really think we are going to be so wowd that we will give them free content or want to hook up for free. Absolutely not, fucking never ever, totally missing the point. Just like dudes who try to act like they completely blew you away with their subpar performance in paid sex and ask if you will see them again for free or go out for real, like dude no never, it is NEVER good quality or enjoyable for anything except the money and we are not going to be sooo turned on by your dick pics …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/22 09:30 PM
8	Whenever you bring up TRP talking points in other subs or on social media everyone acts as though it’s some conspiracy theory or a myth, I’m convinced it is pure deflection Lmao are you really comparing women not somehow solving men's own problem with being insanely thirsty and sex driven with allowing somebody to be raped? Those two things have nothing to do with each other. What do you expect us to do? Blame men, it isn't our fault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/22 10:13 PM
7	Whenever you bring up TRP talking points in other subs or on social media everyone acts as though it’s some conspiracy theory or a myth, I’m convinced it is pure deflection Lol not really. Can you link that study saying women prefer misogynistic men? Don't find that to anecdotally be true at all. Rp men and men with rp adjacent ideology always think they're super lowkey master manipulators but it's always super obvious. There's a reason almost no man in the rp community is successful with women, this entire sub and the rp sub is full of red pillers complaining they can't get none and I have seen very few success stories. Then they go full incel and insist it's beca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/22 09:52 PM
3	This subreddit feels like it's become almost entirely Q4W at this point Idk man these all really sound like your own perceptions and not any objective reality. I have loving sex and my sex doesn't feel transactional at all while in relationships, most people (men and women) have love and do not see it as costs and benefits. And obviously that's based on your own life experiences. I'm a beautiful woman so yeah I'd say men objectify women much more considering nearly every interaction I have with a man in my life is colored entirely by me being attractive and 98% of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/22 02:31 AM
4	This subreddit feels like it's become almost entirely Q4W at this point Not successful ones clearly. One post is all you need to understand the dizzying entitlement, hatred, and selfishness men apply to women - you've shown it right here. An average looking woman isn't even considered human or considered at all, as you've shown here by describing a looksmatch for an unappealing man as swamp creatures, when really that's their own value and they refuse to accept it because they've convinced themselves they deserve so much more when clearly the opposite sex doesn't ag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/22 12:42 AM
5	This subreddit feels like it's become almost entirely Q4W at this point Literally, just look at the way he talks about women, of course nobody wants to be around someone who hates you for your genitalia and loathes you because you won't let them use it. If you see women as objects and treat them like absolute shit then surely it would be extremely hypocritical to turn around and complain about women being transactional and shallow just because you can't get the transaction you are hoping from them. If you want to see women as objects to use for sex then you will onl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/22 12:34 AM
5	This subreddit feels like it's become almost entirely Q4W at this point Lol there's no point even engaging with comments this toxic. If I made a post making ANY sort of declaration about all men like you have here, I'm sure you'd be the first to go off about how all women hate men and all we do is make sweeping generalizations. So silly to think all 4 billion people of one sex from different cultures all over the world somehow all think and act exactly the same way. Even sillier to think that one way is the strange mangled perception of one man who doesn't spend muc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/22 12:29 AM
1	Realistically speaking, what kind of women do men here expect to even get? You're proving my point right now lol. I barely even want to come on this sub because such a significant portion of the posts are straight up hating on women with no "not all women" disclaimers like we have to do, and any time you point it out men do what you're doing now and make it about them. I rarely ever see posts saying what you claim and they're always heavily downvoted with five billion "not all men" replies or replies about how all women are sooo much worse, whereas the frequent general…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/22 12:29 AM
13	Realistically speaking, what kind of women do men here expect to even get? Literally like half the posts on this sub are making huge sweeping generalizations about all women ("all women hate men, all women fuck the hottest guy they can, all women are immature and annoying, all women are overly picky, all women this all women that") and if you reply like "idk men do that too" even with 4 billion obligatory not all men disclaimers you'll get swamped with "omg not all men tho like fr why do you women all hate men so much and make so many generalizations". Any statement de…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/22 09:46 PM
3	Q4W How would you react to your SO losing a fight in a really pathetic way? Perfect response except I don't know that I would date a man with interest in any kind of fighting or violent hobby at all. There is a huge overlap with professional MMA/fighters/boxers and domestic violence or sexual violence. If it were like a matter of mma style workouts or light sparring then so be it but any kind of legit professional fighting is a no whether they win or lose. If they lost a fight on the street or elsewhere I really would not care tbh, if anything I'd be turned off if they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/22 02:14 PM
1	FDS and TRP were born and exist due to ugly people who's standards are too high Lol I literally replied to what you posted, which was a ridiculous sweeping generalization. Did you not post "this is all they can attract"? You're being obtuse to pretend you did not clearly state people on fds cannot attract quality men because they're unattractive (which does imply beautiful women don't attract bad quality men or somehow know not to be with them), which is why they all believe all men are awful, which maybe you should have actually read my post because as I already said and y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/22 10:01 PM
6	FDS and TRP were born and exist due to ugly people who's standards are too high No, many women didn't prefer it, that's literally why women had to come together in first world countries and advocate for change for centuries while men tried to keep it the way they, again, fully chose to set up their societies? Men chose that. Women did not choose to be property and they didn't get to make the laws or decide their role in society, men chose all that so if they didn't like it why did they pick it and fight against women to enforce it for thousands of years? The countries still…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/22 09:40 PM
2	FDS and TRP were born and exist due to ugly people who's standards are too high Complete disagree. You really believe attractive women don't attract abusers or deadbeats or shit men? That's ridiculous. They attract all men and every type of man, but many women have past trauma, toxic dating habits and/or lack of experience that leads them to be susceptible to the many abusers who pursue beautiful women. That's why subs like fds exist, being born beautiful doesn't mean you automatically only attract amazing men or automatically have the perfect radar for identifying shitty p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/22 09:01 PM
1	FDS and TRP were born and exist due to ugly people who's standards are too high I have no idea what sub you're reading, every time I've ever gone to redpill or mgtow literally every post was about women and how awful those evil whores are. Absolutely nothing about self improvement or actually going their own way, 100% about complaining and being upset.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/22 08:55 PM
2	FDS and TRP were born and exist due to ugly people who's standards are too high That's better than being literally killed and abandoned by your families lol, and also a product of men since women certainly did not decide to be property and have no rights in those cultures. So blame men for all of that cause they chose it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/22 08:52 PM
3	FDS and TRP were born and exist due to ugly people who's standards are too high Many of them are. "Girls will be girls" isn't a thing but weirdly enough "boys will be boys" is and justifies all kinds of horrible behavior that young girls could never get away with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/22 08:51 PM
12	'Too many muscles is unattractive' is a crock I literally just said I prefer actual skinny guys and exclusively date/fuck them in my post - one of my exes is 6'4 and 120 lbs, another 6'2 and 130 lbs etc, all the men I date are around that level of skinny with no working out and no muscles and I find it extremely attractive. The vast majority of my female friends have the same strong preference for thin men, but again I'm alt and it is honestly way, way more common than not to prefer skinny men amongst alt women. I am absolutely not referrin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/22 01:27 AM
6	'Too many muscles is unattractive' is a crock Nah. I'm a hot woman and Christiano Ronaldo is too big for my tastes. We are all diverse just like men, we all have different preferences just like men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/22 10:46 PM
4	'Too many muscles is unattractive' is a crock Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining. Still not a valid response to an argument on his part and still super weird to pretend to engage just to repeatedly spam that in response to completely normal arguments to what was initially, ironically, an extremely insulting response towards women but I would expect nothing less on this sub I suppose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/22 10:37 PM
9	'Too many muscles is unattractive' is a crock Lol? What's wrong with liking buff men? Is it basic for men to like women with big titties or nice hair? And I'm speaking as a woman who has a STRONG preference for skinny men, skinnier the better, and only dates them. Though most of this sub and many men irl straight up say I'm lying and I can't possibly have that preference because all women love buff men (they don't)	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/22 10:01 PM
9	'Too many muscles is unattractive' is a crock Weird. I mean if you act this strange and off kilter in a basic reddit debate, I hate to say it but the other poster may have a point about your problem not being your height or income. I know lots of broke, short, and ugly men in relationships - men with poor social skills and bad etiquette, not so much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/22 09:58 PM
9	'Too many muscles is unattractive' is a crock Is there some reason you keep spamming this? It's not really a response, doesn't mean anything or add to the argument whatsoever. It's pretty strange.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/22 09:55 PM
26	'Too many muscles is unattractive' is a crock Honestly lol. Not all men but especially on this sub yes, it is a lot of men who have a bone to pick with the entire sex because they haven't had romantic success. How you come to the conclusion all 4 billion women are fundamentally wrong instead of considering that maybe, just maybe, you're the problem as an individual, I will never understand. I genuinely prefer skinny guys. The skinnier, the better. And I am an attractive woman, there is no game or lie to it like they seem to think, I gain no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/22 09:48 PM
4	I feel like paternity tests should be done for every child at birth to prove who the father is or isn't. So we're back to square one that you were arguing against- we should, in fact, have to test and track down the true father of children and legally force them to pay child support and actually parent their child instead of something like 20% of fathers or more walking out on their kids. Since according to you, single mothers are somehow the cause of all men being violent towards women and other men, so you agree with what she initially said that men need to stop walking out on their children and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/22 09:38 PM
6	I feel like paternity tests should be done for every child at birth to prove who the father is or isn't. Lmao nice victim blaming there. Men statistically commit the vast majority of sexual and violent crimes, against women AND other men. Explanation for that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/22 09:34 PM
-4	Are most males left in the dark on their level of physical attractiveness? You got more than enough salt already lmfao I love the posters on here who take every single topic as an opportunity to go off on a tangent only slightly related to the op and bitch, generalize all women, and rant nonstop about an entire sex without even bothering to answer op's question or have meaningful discussion. So many posters here seem absolutely shocked they can't achieve romantic or sexual success with the people they openly hate and twist every convo into an excuse to rant about	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/22 03:14 AM
1	Why Do You Think Most Men Instinctively Care About N Count? No, when did I ever say that? Or are you just projecting onto all attractive men and assuming all of them think the exact same way you do? Often people who can easily get sex don't place the same ridiculous value on it as men who don't get it, that's why many women don't see it as the be all end all or super amazing for men to do. I'm not saying I want dudes to be a virgin cause that's just dumb but someone who engages in casual sex regularly and/or has an n count that could only ever be achieve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/22 06:49 PM
3	Why Do You Think Most Men Instinctively Care About N Count? To men maybe, but in your own words men and women aren't the same. We don't value sex like that and we don't find it to be some huge accomplishment to get it. So when I hear about a slutty gross ran thru hoe ass man, the last thing I ask is "how?" (plus the answer is almost always going to bars, raves, partying, being a constant on tinder and often using manipulative tactics, for a high body count that often consists of mainly very unappealing, unattractive, and std ridden women - literally anyo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/22 12:48 PM
12	Why Do You Think Most Men Instinctively Care About N Count? Ok I feel the same disgust about community dick. I've stopped talking to men for high body counts and in fact no woman I know finds it hot or cool either, though these men often refuse to believe that and constantly brag about it while insisting it is very very attractive to women for them to do that. It isn't, nobody likes community dick and people who don't value the meaning of sex cause they'll stick their dick in literally any nasty old thing that'll have them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/22 12:40 PM
1	Why do you think men are more right wing than women? What lol? All the lefties I know would say another leftie, they would be extremely at odds with a far right woman and most I know won't even be friends with a far right person, much less married. I feel like this is projecting. I would hope there is more reasoning and conviction behind anyone's political beliefs than which stereotypes about women they prefer in theory, or I would hope in general someone's political stance is not solely based on women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/22 05:42 PM
3	Question For Women: For those who have a negative perception of Red Pill Men, could anything change your mind to the point that you would consider a relationship with a Red Pill Man? Yeah I was going to add that while the only way I would ever possibly see a red piller as a potential partner is if they fully denounce it and no longer identify with any part of it, chances are pretty good that it's still not enough. If they ever identified with that ideology, there is likely something very wrong with them and their empathy. Not to mention it self selects for romantically unsuccessful men, since normal men have no issue and don't need an online community to cope, most these men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/22 02:17 PM
6	Question For Women: For those who have a negative perception of Red Pill Men, could anything change your mind to the point that you would consider a relationship with a Red Pill Man? Yeah I feel bad for homeless people but I'm not going to move them into my home. I feel bad for people who cannot attract a mate but that doesn't mean I'm going to date them. And red pillers are especially not sympathetic because they project and blame women for their undesirability. If a homeless person screamed at every person passing by that they're fundamentally awful for having a home and they are the reason they're homeless because they won't accept them into their homes for no cost/at the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/22 12:28 AM
4	Question For Women: For those who have a negative perception of Red Pill Men, could anything change your mind to the point that you would consider a relationship with a Red Pill Man? True but I can tell they're not really into men because their judgments are always ridiculously wack. It's like the most average fit white dudes and they'll randomly decide 'now this is Chad, this is what peak male performance looks like and what every woman dreams of' and absolutely no one can convince them otherwise, especially not straight women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/22 12:15 AM
7	Question For Women: For those who have a negative perception of Red Pill Men, could anything change your mind to the point that you would consider a relationship with a Red Pill Man? Well to begin with, none of that is actually true. That's a good starting place for change. If billions of women in this world, who are all individuals and not actually one big woman monolith with all the same personality, wants, and "nature", are not interested in you as a mate, how do you come to the conclusion that we are all wrong, it's what we want that is truly messed up, and we have to change that to accommodate? Why can't you change?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/22 11:25 PM
45	Question For Women: For those who have a negative perception of Red Pill Men, could anything change your mind to the point that you would consider a relationship with a Red Pill Man? This. The only way I could ever possibly make it work is if he no longer identifies as red pill and sees what is so wrong and misogynistic about their thinking. What could a current red piller do to make me overlook it? Nothing. If they agree with red pill ideology then they have sexist beliefs because red pill is based on shitty generalizations and misogyny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/22 11:16 PM
3	CMW: Men don't owe women any commitment after sex regardless of any discussions And why aren't women allowed to call him out for it? You don't get to be a whole shitty liar who uses women like pieces of meat saying literally anything to get a crumb of pussy and then also demand there are no consequences for it and that the women being treated like walking fleshlights don't have a right to be upset or say anything. If that's his prerogative then that is their's, it's only fair right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/22 10:43 AM
8	Hinge experiment analysis. Are men on dating apps really as bad as what women describe? This seems like a really weird assumption from a straight man about what female hangouts are like lol. Life isn't a TV show, no we do not all sit around bitching about men nonstop and calling women who won't participate pick mes. Nobody off reddit even knows what that is. We do in fact have lives, hobbies, and interests outside of men, and we are happy when our friends get in healthy relationships (emphasis on healthy). This is not at all what female friendships or their culture is like and I kn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/22 04:13 PM
0	Hinge experiment analysis. Are men on dating apps really as bad as what women describe? It's funny how so many replies are popping off about how women complain about dating apps all the time and won't stop blaming men for it, with the op even basing their "experiment" around it, when I, an actual woman who knows many other actual women, have never once heard a woman complain about dating apps whereas this sub, r/tinder, and every man I know on the apps complains day in and day out about how unfair they are to men because they can't get no pussy on it. Even the men in here complaini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/22 03:59 PM
0	Hinge experiment analysis. Are men on dating apps really as bad as what women describe? Yeah I barely come on this sub because it is dominated by literal incels and people desperately seeking a sub that will let them hate on women relentlessly and connect them to other incels who also hate women and want to circle jerk about how women are awful because they cannot get sex or love from them after incelswithouthate went down. Women do reply sometimes with equally generalizing or bitter statements but they are almost always replies to an OP or comment that was doing it about women fir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/22 03:52 PM
1	What are your thoughts on Young Men not dating till they are 30 and established? Then it's obvious why you're alone and have no success with women and no ability to connect with them. That right there is your issue, keep blaming women but who the hell wants to be around somebody who hates them out the gate just for being born with a certain set of genitals?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/22 03:46 PM
13	Hinge experiment analysis. Are men on dating apps really as bad as what women describe? Are you serious? All I see is men complaining nonstop about how dating apps are unfair to them and ruined the dating game. I don't personally use them but literally never do I see women blaming men or even complaining about this except maybe in the context of hookup culture but that definitely exists outside the apps. Go on r/tinder and it is a sea of men crying and blaming women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/22 03:43 PM
2	The women aged 24-32 who are not content with the current state of dating: Why are you not content with it? What can both genders do about it? Don't reply if you didn't even read it, how stupid. It was consistent and literally all on the exact same topic of young men expecting traditional values and gender roles that benefit them while expecting women drop all gender roles that don't benefit men and call that equality. No woman wants to work 40 hours then play mommy bangmaid, every single thing I said explained that in detail and was describing one very common type of man and one behavioral issue that nearly every man I've ever met cur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/22 03:10 PM
16	The women aged 24-32 who are not content with the current state of dating: Why are you not content with it? What can both genders do about it? Well, that's their point. Many young women are dissatisfied because some men want the traditional setup of woman does all the child rearing, cleaning, shopping, all the life and financial planning, and fully organize every family or social event while doing all shopping, decorating, cooking, hosting, and cleaning for said events so the man can lay back and enjoy his effortless perfect holidays or parties, while still working fulltime because it is not financially feasible to be a 1 income househ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/22 12:19 AM
1	What are your thoughts on Young Men not dating till they are 30 and established? No, it just flew over your head. They made a completely correct point that all the actual women are agreeing with that OPs logic makes no sense if you view women as people and not objects or sex vending machines you need to learn the right trick for to get free objects of your desire out of for nothing in return. Then you, instead of staying on topic, jump to personal attacks and demand they make a generalization about all women and declare something they hate on the spot to prove.. what, that t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/22 12:33 PM
2	What are your thoughts on Young Men not dating till they are 30 and established? Nah, only the low value ones. If that's all you can get then I hate to tell you but you personally have no value in the market and aren't worth more. Perhaps you should work on yourself and make sure you actually have the qualities you are looking for in a partner first? I've noticed most young men seem to expect very beautiful, kind, serving virgin women who still love porn and do anal and never ever complain about not cumming and work fulltime while still doing all the housework and shopping, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/22 12:27 PM
1	What are your thoughts on Young Men not dating till they are 30 and established? The funniest part is that a man in his 30s who courts 18-20 yr olds is by definition not a high value man. They are mutually exclusive, in women's eyes at least. The whole concept of hvm/lvm came from FDS yet redpillers have totally lost the concept, ignored every single quality women decided a high value mate may have, and assigned their own set of wack values that straight men who are unsuccessful with women to the point they need a whole online community for it decided other high value straig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/22 12:15 PM
4	Women who HAVE in fact dated or married a Red Pill Man, good experience/relationship or negative? Wow you are so upset and ironically projecting way more onto him (yeah, check the history 🤣) that was never said nor implied than the other way around. Also are you 12 lmao an intellectual has entered the chat, really? Once you're out of high school dating will be way easier so chill	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/22 12:33 AM
5	Women who HAVE in fact dated or married a Red Pill Man, good experience/relationship or negative? Why should he be in charge just because he's a man and wants to? He doesn't make more, he isn't the head of household nor breadwinner, he doesn't run the home or lead more competently than her and she said he thinks he is better solely for being a man. You are saying he should be in charge despite being inferior in every way just because he was born with a penis. Doesn't that seem sexist to you? Probably not since you went on with many extremely sexist generalizations. Any statement generalizing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/22 12:29 AM
4	Women who HAVE in fact dated or married a Red Pill Man, good experience/relationship or negative? ... check the title of the thread. It is literally asking for people's experiences dating red pillers. Sorry, was nobody supposed to answer unless it portrayed a very shitty group of men unsuccessful in the dating game positively? It is no surprise women who dated them have had negative experiences, and I think it's hilarious how instead of facing the pattern displayed here that clearly shows women don't actually like this behavior and it doesn't work, you deflect and try to find a way to turn i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/22 12:19 AM
7	Most men aren’t built for successful relationships in the modern era and that’s why there is a redpill imho Except it is all they talk about. Any time I went to that sub, you could count on one hand how many posts focused solely or even mostly on self improvement and going their own way in a SEA of posts that were just hating and bitching about women. Even here I only see mgtow men commenting solely to bitch about women with nasty stereotypes and obvious bitterness. It doesn't seem like they're really going their own way when every post and every interaction is all about how awful those chad loving sl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/21 11:59 PM
7	Men are NOT hypergamous. Women are. Men are hypogamous (dating/marrying DOWN) Not this guy unironically breaking down why older men like to prey on vulnerable inexperienced women to purposely abuse the power dynamics without any self awareness of how nasty that is. Like another comment said, eww grooming. Is it because you know you're such an undesirable partner that somebody your own age that cannot be controlled by imbalanced dynamics as easily and has the experience to recognize poor behavior in relationships wouldn't want to be with you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/21 02:14 AM
3	What happens to men who struggle in dating? Are you daft? We quite literally did not legally have the ability to do many things in the US at many points in time, such as owning property or getting abortions or you know, being able to get a damn job at all. So that is entirely inconsistent with women "always being free to do what they want". We were literally property. You incels are so weird about hating women you're rewriting history now in the most delusional fashion just to have another excuse to rant about some Chad strawman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/21 12:56 AM
8	Is FemaleDatingStrategy, ironically, conservative? You can't be a HVM and have the mentality I just described. At least not if you're considering it from a woman's perspective- for a man maybe that would seem high value but it is not. It may be different in other cultures or older generations but I'm 23 in the US and dating almost seems like a scam when I and literally all the women I know who date my age have been the financial provider in all our relationships or at least 50/50 while cleaning, cooking, and family stuff (especially if you have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/21 02:31 PM
18	Is FemaleDatingStrategy, ironically, conservative? You don't feel this exists for men even worse? You want women to be sexually liberated (aka promiscuous but just for you, and never ever ask for more sexually than letting you jackhammer your way to an orgasm while they get nothing and simply tolerate it), work full careers while still doing all the childcare and all the cooking and all the cleaning and all the shopping and all the house/family management solely alone, pay 50/50 on the bills while doing everything conservative women are expected…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/21 12:57 PM
3	On Sheryl Sandberg's advice to women on finding a life partner: be the first guy Yeah I agree. Why waste time dating someone you're not compatible with who clearly has qualities that make them a bad partner from the get go? I don't think any woman is really missing out or should be feeling like they're missing out by not being in doomed, shitty/abusive relationships. It seems like a contradictory statement because they're refusing to let go of the often-repeated yet scientifically unconfirmed and unproven "fact" that all women love bad boys and find them universally sexy as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/21 09:31 PM
8	The rise of sexlessness among men is NOT NORMAL, the reasons given for that is major coping by men and female gaslighting to hide the real reason. Women are not having less sex they are just having fewer sexual partners. Look three comments up the chain and the man she's replying to was literally just knocking 50k a year first... but that doesn't fit your women = evil gold diggers agenda so you ignored that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/21 12:46 AM
1	Women wearing tons of makeup and Shapewear are just as pathetic as men who rent cars and pretend to be much wealthier than they are. Ok let's not distance from what you actually said by saying "that they feel put down", there is no feeling about it, rating women's attractiveness is obnoxious and saying they are not attractive to you or are "lying" or "gaming" the system ARE objectively put downs. That's not a feeling or assumption, and that's how you intended it so don't gaslight her like she made that up. Plus men do the exact same thing, you literally did the exact same thing when you entered the convo to defend OP. What's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/21 05:44 PM
5	Women wearing tons of makeup and Shapewear are just as pathetic as men who rent cars and pretend to be much wealthier than they are. This post is assuming a lot of things. She didn't even ask them to do it, so how is that controlling and abusive? If a man says he has a preference for shaved or unshaved genitalia and his gf decides to follow that preference for him, is that abuse? If so, almost every hetero relationship is abusive. I agree actually controlling your partner by manipulating or threatening them if they don't follow your preferences would be wrong, but she didn't say nor imply anything like that. She is allowed to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/21 05:24 PM
1	Women wearing tons of makeup and Shapewear are just as pathetic as men who rent cars and pretend to be much wealthier than they are. Way to ignore literally all my points. You are just very angry at women and you have no logic backing it, it is all emotion for you. Who cares if you think it's lying? Just go for women not wearing makeup then, it's easy enough. We don't wear makeup or live our lives specifically to impress you, what's the point of raging at the entire opposite sex because some of them do something you're not personally attracted to? Many men are fat and out of shape or don't have basic hygiene and I'm not attra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/21 04:40 PM
3	Women wearing tons of makeup and Shapewear are just as pathetic as men who rent cars and pretend to be much wealthier than they are. So when you alter your appearance by putting a shirt over your bare chest, you're lying period? When you get a haircut, you're lying period? If you go work out and get a fit body, you're lying period? What kind of logic is this? Besides, I know yall think the world revolves around you but many women wear makeup for fun or because it's pleasing to them, believe it or not, so it doesn't really matter what you personally think about it, and since makeup happens to be visible then you should easily …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/21 04:33 PM
8	Women wearing tons of makeup and Shapewear are just as pathetic as men who rent cars and pretend to be much wealthier than they are. These dudes know nothing about makeup. I bet you $200 if I went out with OP and asked him to point out attractive women walking by to me, 10/10 would be wearing makeup. But it's "natural" looking makeup so they can't tell. When men say they hate makeup, they really mean they hate visible makeup like bright eyeshadow, red lipstick, or caked on foundation. Few genuinely like women who do not wear any makeup at all, especially things like mascara, concealer, or eyebrow filling/reshaping.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/21 04:26 PM
7	Men are more likely to agree in what women are attractive, while women are more likely to disagree in what men are attractive Lmao this makes no sense to me because big boobs are generally considered good and I don't see how that's embarrassing at all. What a goober	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/21 08:09 PM
5	If you can't love me now, don't love me later when my later is greater.. Yes it is. I didn't realize we could only quote people of our own sex, when did they pass that law? I am speaking as a bisexual woman who has used online dating/apps and seen this in men's profile frequently, and not ironically. It is very literally just a popular quote. I understand this sub clearly wants to gender code everything and make it into an attack on the opposite sex, and you can choose to not believe me but I have no reason to be lying about this and getting downvoted/mocked for it. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/21 12:59 PM
3	If you can't love me now, don't love me later when my later is greater.. No, I am an actual woman who has used multiple actual online dating apps and seen tons of men with the "can't handle me at my worst" quote in their profile. I love how men are downvoting me because it doesn't fit the sexist idea of what evil gross wahmen act like and what lovely awesome men act like, but humans aren't all that different. The incels have really taken over this sub especially since incelswithouthate went down. Kinda irritating. Keep talking over me and telling me what dating as a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/21 12:34 PM
-3	If you can't love me now, don't love me later when my later is greater.. You guys do realize this is a very common line for men on online dating as well? It's just a common cliche line in general. I do think it's a red flag in either gender, being a good person sometimes doesn't undo all the shitty stuff you do "at your worst" Yall can keep downvoting me but this is coming from an actual attractive young woman who has used multiple dating apps and personally seen tons of profiles using the "can't handle me at my worst" quote. Where are you getting this idea that only…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/21 01:41 AM
-1	FDS women want a sexually submissive man with "alpha" traits Women don't get made fun of for not making the man cum because he doesn't not cum. The man finishing is just expected, sex is defined by PIV despite most women not being able to cum from that alone and it is considered ended when the man finishes or otherwise ends it. And even then socially you are considered a bitch and it's supposedly a super low blow to make fun of your dude for that or point it out, even if he doesn't ever make you cum and you always make him cum. Nonetheless I do see women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 11:11 PM
5	Surprising facts regarding family court Because they know she will take the kids and they won't have to lol. If men were expected to be the primary caregiver like women and the kids just defaulted onto the man to be taken care of and financially provided for alone (not counting child support, which is a whole other issue where somehow the party not raising their children fulltime or at all believes they are being wronged by having to provide for their spawn that they chose to have whatsoever), they wouldn't be saying that. And the sta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/21 11:55 AM
2	Surprising facts regarding family court Yes? But men abuse women statistically at MUCH higher rates, so as a woman who has been a victim of multiple different abusive men but has never put their hands on anyone or been abusive personally ever, I'd totally be cool with this if it meant abusive men finally were held accountable and kept away from children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/21 11:44 AM
10	Surprising facts regarding family court Court abuse is a common end of the line last resort for abusers. After you've finally left and they have no power over you anymore except what they can do in this court and with your kids if you have any, abusers will spend any amount of time and money if it means they get to drag you into court, make you upset and see you upset, trash you in court and do the whole song and dance to make you look bad. Through the legal process, they can continue controlling you and making you miserable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/21 11:38 AM
2	Red Pill people sometimes just make up fake numbers Oh sorry I misunderstood, I tried to be careful with my wording in my original post to make it clear that this is a narrative I see on reddit and not something that all men think; I thought with your posts you were trying to point out that not all men think that and in real life it is rare to see a person that is vocal about red pill type beliefs, which I fully agree with. I think a lot of the guys posting this narrative are young, don't have much if any dating experience and are extremely insec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/21 03:40 PM
3	Red Pill people sometimes just make up fake numbers And I'm asking what the point of saying that is because it's not relevant to the conversation and doesn't add anything or make any kind of valid suggestion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/21 03:25 PM
1	Red Pill people sometimes just make up fake numbers ...ok? I'm replying to someone who literally posted word for word what I'm addressing. We're obviously discussing what people say on reddit, I've never seen a red piller in real life so what's your point?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/21 03:20 PM
2	Red Pill people sometimes just make up fake numbers No... they're literally not. Have a source for that? And being cat called can be extremely upsetting and lead to assaults for women, especially considering 1/4 of women are victims of sexual assault in their lifetime (that does not include cat calling, sexual assault is clearly defined) and street harassment could easily trigger someone's ptsd or trauma from previous experiences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/21 03:02 PM
3	Red Pill people sometimes just make up fake numbers Women don't prioritize sex the way men do in general so we don't see the ability to get low quality casual hookups that don't even result in an orgasm for us as some kind of extreme privilege. Don't get me wrong, I understand why it is more important to men, but men need to realize we are mostly wired differently and do not see sex as this gigantic end all be all of life. In fact it is quite disheartening to see people on reddit regularly discount all of the very real disadvantages and problems …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/21 03:01 PM
2	Red Pill people sometimes just make up fake numbers I absolutely agree. Anyone who doesn't see the same behaviors from both sides is honestly a liar or ignorant. I subbed to both incelswithouthate when that was a thing (though like 87% of the posters on there definitely were not without hate when it comes to women) AND FDS, and there are similar behaviors in both. I think FDS are a lot better (yeah yeah I know I'll get destroyed for saying that since this sub is obsessed with them) but they both suffered from lots of cringy posts making sweeping …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/21 02:55 PM
6	If you want equality like equal domestic responsibility, then you should want equal financial responsibility in the relationship Ok you can keep changing the subject and going "b-but no wait, women don't do this other unrelated thing" but the fact is that men are not trying to pull their weight in the home or the family. What happens in the fucking military is unrelated. And you're proving her point with your own little "burn" about how women have been fighting in wars forever.. oh ok so women HAVE been trying to do men's jobs and have been fighting to break into their industries despite pushback forever? You agree with w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/21 11:12 AM
2	If you want equality like equal domestic responsibility, then you should want equal financial responsibility in the relationship Exactly. You're doing God's work here, everything you've said is totally true and actually indicative of the dating lives of the many real young women I know. The people replying are replying based off their own one experience, or more likely, gripes they've read about women in other reddit posts that they repeat because they are angry they can't even get far enough with one to debate the split of domestic and financial responsibilities. The one dude you're arguing with literally sits on this su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/21 11:02 AM
9	If you want equality like equal domestic responsibility, then you should want equal financial responsibility in the relationship The entire thing? It's all bitter fantasy. Or the perspective of one sad person who doesn't represent all of humanity or dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/21 10:50 AM
2	If you want equality like equal domestic responsibility, then you should want equal financial responsibility in the relationship That's actually misinformation. You can go there yourself and not read secondhand if you're not sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/21 10:44 AM
18	If you want equality like equal domestic responsibility, then you should want equal financial responsibility in the relationship I have a feeling it it were a woman described in the post as the partner unable to contribute due to medical reasons, this sub would have a very different response for her. One that mainly involved her being a lazy bitch or making up her medical problems or pretending she can't do housework and childcare when she totally should and could.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/21 10:38 AM
10	If you want equality like equal domestic responsibility, then you should want equal financial responsibility in the relationship I agree for the most part and I'm a feminist so I'm really not sure what you mean by your last line there. That is not at all incompatible with feminist ideology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/21 10:32 AM
10	Most of TRP "truths" are symptoms of America being a dysfunctional society Good luck getting an answer that actually reflects something wrong with women instead of showing the poster's own misogyny and glaring personality flaws. All I'm saying is I can see plain as day why many of these posters have such a hard time with women, and it's not because women are universally evil awful whores. If you think we really can't tell that you're bitter, lonely, and only think of women as fuck objects to use before their expiration date, then idk what to tell ya, but that right the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/21 05:30 PM
10	The men like beauty women like success thing is greatly exaggerated. It's not all about sex. At least not to most women. I don't think the fact that any woman could get some gross loser to have low effort casual sex with her (that she likely doesn't want, and would not result in any kind of orgasm on her part) completely disproves beauty standards. Who is willing to fuck you and who is willing to date you are two very different things and women are held to much higher standards for dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/21 08:09 PM
8	I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable? You are getting some really weird replies from some people who don't seem to have the best idea of what women are actually like, despite their misplaced confidence. A good hint is that they are making sweeping generalizations about an entire sex that consists of billions of completely different individuals. When put like that, it is kind of ridiculous to refer to all women as one entity or try to declare that all women behave and function the exact same way. I mean, I'm always hearing "not all m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/21 07:21 PM
42	AskMen post discussion On the flipside to that, I am a bisexual woman who has dated men and women, and I find women are much more considerate and emotionally connected than men in relationships. Anecdotally, they are much more giving in the bedroom as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/21 05:57 PM
2	"Body positivity" excludes overweight guys in favor of normalizing BBW fetishism I definitely think most of them are the latter. The whole term body positive is extremely misleading since the current movement seems to focus almost exclusively on overweight women. That's why I was using the term fat acceptance more because most the people who claim to be body positive are actually just fat acceptance. And like I said, most the posts I see are gender neutral and don't exclude men in any way. I probably should have clarified I do not support the body positive movement at all in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/21 03:33 PM
3	"Body positivity" excludes overweight guys in favor of normalizing BBW fetishism Yeah it's kind of a weird argument that body positive women MUST spend equal time or effort advocating for overweight males. I very rarely see anything from body positive women implying that fat men are NOT part of their movement or anything negative about them. If fat men cared so much, they would start their own movement. But ultimately society is NOWHERE NEAR as hard on men when it comes to body image, and I don't hear even a fraction of the unsolicited hate that overweight women receive targ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/21 03:07 PM
7	IG & FB are better for getting dates than Dating Apps Really? I'm a woman and I'm very pro messaging. So are all my female friends my age. I do not know anyone who is pretending we don't meet people through social media. I dropped tinder and OLD long ago but the exact same guy contacting me through fb or something has way better odds than they ever would on a shithole like tinder. I don't think this is like some secret women are keeping from men. Men of all types shoot their shot in my inbox all the way from guys this sub would quickly seem a beta …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/20 04:42 PM
3	To whomsoever it may concern You know what's funny, I just got done reading a post demanding this sub be banned because we promote "divorce raping" men (never in my life seen a post here suggesting that, break up block and move on is the holy grail of advice and we know better than to compare paying alimony in a divorce to getting fucking raped) and we downvote women who criticize promiscuity or say they like anal lmao. Which is apparently hate speech to them... and also hilarious considering one of the golden rules of FDS …	/r/FemaleDatingStrategy	30/06/20 04:20 PM
5	The only way to change a woman's viewpoint is to be an authority figure or part of a social group she wants to join. Logic is completely useless, women don't respect or care about it, despite sometimes putting on a show of it. Except not really. I looked through his arguments briefly and found a lot of downvoted posts with majority consensus disagreement. Yet he rejects every single one of those as emotion. Somehow all his arguments are correct and based on logic, and anyone who does not agree based on their anecdotal experiences (which is what he is basing his argument on, as you even agree in your post) is using emotion. How can you possibly deem all your own experiences and thoughts logical and anyone else's emotio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/20 02:02 PM
6	The only way to change a woman's viewpoint is to be an authority figure or part of a social group she wants to join. Logic is completely useless, women don't respect or care about it, despite sometimes putting on a show of it. You're making a lot of assumptions here with this statement and your entire post. Go ahead, you're the one making this claim so how about you pull something out to support it? Anything that isn't anecdotal. Or maybe even a post/screenshot of a woman supporting your point, anything objective that isn't being filtered through your own viewpoint. The burden shouldn't be on us to disprove an anecdotal sweeping generalization about 3+ billion people ranging from women living in tribes who've never ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/20 01:38 PM
75	Men have a little bit of “woman” in them and women have a little bit of “man” in them. The true difference is our options. I mean yeah we're the same species and made up of (mostly) the same cells. We're all human. I don't know why extremists on both sides of the equation act like the other sex is some kind of alien lifeform totally unlike them, and completely alike each other with no variations at all besides Chad and beta/simp or tradwife and evil sadistic whore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/20 05:09 PM
7	This is some next level NVM bullshit. Could you imagine thinking your friends are more important than you wife in labour. Chuck him in the bin IMO. You know what's funny, is actually my mom has been practicing a lot of the fundamentals of fds (particularly in dating and who she chooses to date) yearsss before fds was even a thing. It blew my mind when I first found this sub but I'm not too surprised considering, again, my mom has only dated ridiculously kind, genuine, hvm males invested in serious relationships with her. Things she has always stressed to me: -Let men make the first move/ask you out. If you have to do it, he is not that inte…	/r/FemaleDatingStrategy	16/06/20 01:48 PM
7	This is some next level NVM bullshit. Could you imagine thinking your friends are more important than you wife in labour. Chuck him in the bin IMO. Nope I refuse. There are honestly good men out there. I've seen it with my own eyes multiple times, never came close to courting one myself but my own mom has seemed to have perfected some kind of HVM farming strategy as I have only seen her date the best of guys who prove all these stereotypes wrong in my life.	/r/FemaleDatingStrategy	15/06/20 03:35 PM
15	The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scale Nowhere in FDS do they promote celibacy. It's actually the complete opposite - as the name may suggest, female dating strategy is intended to get women into healthy, serious, monogamous relationships with loyal men who are not toxic or total leeches. That you think it had anything to do with celibacy, voluntary or not, just shows you're probably never even actually gone there much less read any of the content. You're simply parroting the angry mob mentality against fds that fits in line with you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/20 03:12 AM
18	How would women react to an erotic fantasy book/film in which an ugly man rapes/kidnaps a woman? I may be missing the point here but it seems quite clear from the wording in the OP and subsequent posts that men (at least in this thread) are already critically judging women who supposedly consume this type of female-focused erotica. Is it not unreasonable to assume that women would feel similarly about men who would consume the same type of fetish material made for a male audience?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/20 01:53 PM
2	Being the best you can be is the best thing you can do for yourself I can flip that around and say men don't care about women's fitness whatsoever either as long as they're hot. They can literally be dying of anorexia or bulimia to maintain a "desirable" model physique and men are totally for it- assuming she can eat and act like the cool girl in front of him instead of bothering him with her issues, of course. Doesn't really matter if she never works out or has no strength or functional fitness so long as she's hot. Losing weight only goes "too far" in men's ey…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/20 06:31 PM
3	My sister just sent me this 😂 Seriously! I'm 5'3 according to the last doctors appointment I had, but that was years ago so if I'm being generous there MAY be a chance I'm 5'4 or possibly 5'5 but it's unlikely; either way I'm definitely not above the average female height for my country, yet my entire life and still as an adult I've gotten shit on again and again for being an "abnormally tall girl" by any guys under or close to my height. I've been made fun of for my height so much in my life I actually developed a complex a…	/r/FemaleDatingStrategy	26/04/20 04:34 PM