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fwoomer/r/MGTOW10/05/19 01:40 PM
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“Nueces County District Attorney Jimmy Granberry said that for cases of this nature, multiple factors had to be examined. ‘She had already been under supervision for four years,’ Granberry said. ‘We do not believe that she is an ongoing threat at this time.’” Wait. She’s done this before, four years ago, and you do not believe she’s an ongoing threat!? SMH.
/r/MensRights06/07/24 04:15 PM
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I don’t think I’m particularly attractive, and I wouldn’t say it happened a lot. But I will say it happened several times. Woman at work slapped me on the butt. Woman at another workplace leaned over my desk a certain way so her breasts rubbed on my hand, which was on my mouse. I couldn’t figure out if that was intentional or not as I didn’t want to read too much into it, but when i told the story to women I knew and trusted, they unanimously said that it was absolutely intentional and that ever…
/r/MensRights06/07/24 07:51 AM
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…and just because she’s attractive doesn’t mean you want her hands on you.
/r/MensRights06/07/24 07:40 AM
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Maybe, but I, for one, am not taking that risk. It’s an indicator of a false sense of ego and shallowness. Possible personality disorder. For my part, she doesn’t need to reject me, because I am rejecting her. Know your worth, my friend. A 3 who thinks she’s “better than” someone who is also a 3 is someone who wouldn’t respect you even if she did “lower her standards” to give you the time of day. Your highest standard for your own journey should be in not only in how they treat you, but in how t…
/r/MensRights30/06/24 05:27 PM
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What I meant was why would you want someone who would rather be single than date at their level? I did not mean, “Why would you want a 3/10.” I can see how my response reads the latter way, though.
/r/MensRights30/06/24 06:21 AM
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I don’t know, man. The sea of unsolicited dick pics virtually every woman I know who tried an online profile receives is pretty fucked up, if you ask me. The crazies deserve them, obviously. I’m as jaded and nihilistic as the next guy, but it’s not ok in my book that anyone (except the crazies. Those people can fuck off) would have to deal with that nonsense.
/r/MensRights30/06/24 06:18 AM
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It’s fucked up for everyone, my brother. Men and women. It’s just fucked up in different ways for men than for women. And, oddly, the same ways, too.
/r/MensRights28/06/24 06:01 PM
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Kind of interesting how we’ve been eliminating fathers for more than half a century, counting from when “no fault” became so prevalent, and then we blame fathers for “being absent.” We blame them for what we did to them. It’s insane.
/r/MensRights28/06/24 05:59 PM
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Don’t forget that men take up roughly 50% of the population. So, by the numbers, that’s one woman for each man and a man for each woman. It’s not as if women are a scarce commodity and only 20% of the men get a date, or whatever. They talk like they are and men pursue like they are, but they’re really not. Y’all think it’s “a numbers game,” but if you think it through to conclusion, it’s not the “competition” you think it is. Unplug. Get offline. Go meet people in the real world.
/r/MensRights28/06/24 05:55 PM
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“The 1 or 3/10 woman would rather be single…” I am interpreting that as “3/10 in the looks department.” Why would you want such a woman in the first place? Besides, you can always work on your looks. Out of shape? Get in shape. Wear grungy clothes? Wear better clothes that fit right. Learn your look and own it. Balding? Some women love that. Own it. Many women don’t. Own it anyway. Find a way to make it look the best it can. Learn what looks good *for you.” There are a million ways to make the b…
/r/MensRights28/06/24 05:47 PM
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Brother, if you think you have no options, the first thing you need to do is work on yourself. You always have options. Work on that self-esteem and figure out that you are the king of your personal world and that you don’t need some woman to validate that. Your worth does not hinge on whether a woman wants you. Truly. You get that sorted out and you’ll find that the options were always there, but couldn’t see them. I mean, think about it. If you’re not buying yourself, how on earth are you goin…
/r/MensRights28/06/24 05:31 PM
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Seems like you misunderstood what I was getting at. My response is to the women (and men) who say that. Because tunes tend to change and mental gymnastics begin at that point. I wasn’t going to respond to the “meat and potatoes” of your post, but… Agree. Be yourself and have the confidence in yourself not to “puppy dog” anyone. If you like her, go for it, but don’t reduce yourself to subservience to her or anyone. Don’t chase her or follow her around like a lost puppy. She won’t respect you and …
/r/MensRights28/06/24 05:13 PM
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“Men need women more than women need men.” Great, so we can do away with alimony completely, then? And in the same vein, “child support” can reflect actual costs of raising children and have little, if anything to do with income, right?
/r/MensRights28/06/24 09:31 AM
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The highly subjective “best interests of the child” was nothing more than a clever way to continue the blatantly unconstitutional tender years’ doctrine without officially continuing the practice. While things are improving and they’re certainly better (in my state, at least), tender years is still alive and well, as is the man-hate.
/r/MensRights27/06/24 09:06 PM
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Utah.
/r/MensRights27/06/24 05:07 PM
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Yeah. If I knew now just how bad our laws are, I’d never have gotten married, would never cohabit, and never have had kids. Screw that.
/r/MensRights27/06/24 04:43 PM
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I’ve been quite effective in my state over the last 18 years. Both in improving existing law and even more: stopping them from getting worse. 50/50 custody happens a lot more often now due to legislation I passed. And when that doesn’t happen, 60/40 is the de facto standard these days and has been since pivotal legislation in 2015. Alimony is improved. And I stopped terrible legislation on that front 6 years in a row, until the gold-digging woman who tried to pass her pet legislation got re-marr…
/r/MensRights27/06/24 04:42 PM
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Ask an attorney, man. There is a lot of stupid advice being given here.
/r/MensRights27/06/24 04:07 AM
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That. That is what should be mandatory. DNA test proves you’re not the father, you should be 100% off the hook for child support, no matter what your relationship with the child is. And actual father should be 100% on the hook for repaying you any CS you already paid, plus you should be entitled to 50% of the back CS for any time you spent raising some other guy’s kid.
/r/MensRights09/06/24 06:50 AM
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Maybe read a bit about cluster b personality disorders, the way they operate, and what it’s like for those ensnared by them. Often, the victims don’t even realize they’re being abused or how, even when professionals try to tell them what they’re going through isn’t normal or healthy. You might begin to understand why a victim might “feel comfortable enough to pop out two kids together.” Abuse of all types is complicated.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 06:41 AM
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Right. And she builds herself up be tearing him down. Typical.
/r/MensRights24/04/24 05:46 AM
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Totally. Allowing government to get involved with marriage is one of the worst things we ever did to marriage.
/r/MensRights24/04/24 05:43 AM
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Echoing what others have said. You can’t let her treat you like that. Don’t be a dick about it, but you have to nip that in the bud immediately. Call her out on it. Do it peacefully and from a place of respect, but make it clear that what she said to you is not OK. If you approach it that way and she’s reasonable, she will see how crappy it was and will apologize. If she’s crazy? It’ll piss her off that you won’t let her push you around. The big key here is DON’T be a dick about it. DO be firm a…
/r/MensRights24/04/24 05:39 AM
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Between the two of them, they’re doing quite well in most of the U.S. and even in the more expensive areas, they’re still doing respectably well. Unless they’re living beyond their means, they aren’t hurting. Being a dad is more important than making double the pay at his pay grade. This is especially true if he wants to limit the extent to which he can get divorce raped in the future. Being right there for the kiddos during those formidable years is a great insurance policy to becoming “weekend…
/r/MensRights24/04/24 05:27 AM
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Given the state of affairs in family law, I’d say men are wising up to the fact that there is little to no ROI on marriage. Young, successful, established, good career, and building assets? Marriage is the worst thing you can do for yourself. Stay single and be happy to watch the world burn because you’re more than willing to go all John Galt on society.
/r/MensRights22/04/24 06:05 AM
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I think the only appropriate response to the phrase “man up” is “f*ck off.” Seriously. “Man up” for a single mom who has children that aren’t yours? Lol, no. That is not “manning up.” Especially if you’re settling. You’re setting yourself up for another disaster. My manhood is not dependent on taking care of some woman and her children from another guy. Neither is yours or anyone else’s.
/r/MensRights23/03/24 07:24 PM
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It’s a common strategy. My brother got baby-trapped by a lying psycho. He was 6 years older than I, so I learned young.
/r/MensRights21/03/24 11:11 AM
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Male privilege is losing everything you worked so hard your whole life for in a divorce. Male privilege is only being allowed to see your kids a few days/month (if you are lucky and she didn’t run off with the kids, with the court’s blessing), though you are a great father. Male privilege is having to pay a crapload of money to her for the rest of your life, because “she is used to a certain lifestyle,” but not because she “needs it.” The list goes on and on.
/r/MensRights13/03/24 10:08 PM
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It's not just conservatives. Liberals are just as bad. They just hate on men in different (and also similar) ways. The only group that gets it at least sometimes are libertarians. They, at least, generally recognize that everyone has rights - not just our favorite "teams."
/r/MensRights13/03/24 08:26 PM
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lol. Akin to, “I hate that you made me hit you. But if you were just better, I wouldn’t have been forced to do that. Now apologize for making me feel so bad about you making me hit you.”
/r/MensRights13/03/24 06:21 PM
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Seriously. GTFO with that stupid “my worth is dependent on what I can do for women” BS.
/r/MensRights09/03/24 07:10 AM
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I know a guy who hasn’t worked since 2008, when his divorce rape became final. Previously working well enough to earn $160k/year (in 2006, when his life went sideways) and paying taxes in that bracket, he is now content to live off his savings and nOt ConTrIButE tO sOcIeTy. His attitude is fk the society that empowered her to ruin his life. No more making money to pay taxes on, no more buying more than he absolutely needs, no more if any of it. Fk the society that hates me for no reason other th…
/r/MensRights08/03/24 04:49 AM
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Who is John Galt?
/r/MensRights08/03/24 04:38 AM
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This is the way. Also get pictures of your injuries and use that.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 05:43 PM
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Believe it or not, men can be and, in fact, do end up being in abusive relationships. But because of the sexism against men in society, their abusers accuse men of doing the very things that the abusers themselves are doing, but no one believes the men. It’s almost always “believe all women” and “men aren’t victims.” So, then, these men get abused even more. So, the suspicion doesn’t really have anything to do with you. It has everything to do with the way men are seen and treated by society. An…
/r/MensRights11/02/24 11:07 PM
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This, a thousand times this. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.
/r/MensRights23/01/24 07:24 PM
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I would advise against it for the singular reason that it takes the choice away from him. If he wants it later in life - e.g. as an adult - he can make that choice for himself. But if you do it for him as an infant, you’ve robbed him of that irreversible decision. And medically, there’s no reason to do it.
/r/MensRights11/11/23 03:01 PM
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There are a lot of reasons men avoid marriage, and almost all of them have to do with the risk vs reward factor. If I were young and single, there’s no way in hell I’d get married or have kids. Especially if I am successful and have assets. One stroke of a judge’s pen could ruin a life. Screw that. I’m out.
/r/MensRights29/10/23 02:29 PM
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I don’t know about world history, but in America, it’s more than just decades. It’s an entire century.
/r/MensRights10/02/23 09:24 PM
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Tell me you’re a fucking moron without telling me you’re a fucking moron.
/r/MensRights10/02/23 09:16 PM
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My experience with the “conspiracy” is often coming from other men is this: Most men believe that they are “one of the few good ones,” as we were all taught as Gen-Xers, and possibly even millennials, that “most men are trash.” And then add in white knights, plus so many other men who want to “prove” to women that they are “good” and boom. You have men being worse toward other men than many women.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 03:04 AM
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What’s your source on this?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 02:57 AM
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I just stumbled across this. It happened to a guy in Georgia several years ago. He took it all the way to the state Supreme Court…and won! Unconstitutional! (No shit, Sherlock. Of course it is. But judges use mental gymnastics like crazy to come up with their orders every day). Stay safe out there. Learn all you can about cluster B personality disorders and how to avoid relationships with people who have them.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 05:46 PM
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Some of them *do* get violent. What do you think those news stories are where there's a murder/suicide with a guy and his spouse and sometimes the kids, too? The news will always report one-sided on it. But I guarantee it happens. It's not every time, but you can bet money that it's more times than you think. The guy sees his life was about to be ruined and takes matters into his own hands. If you do not think this happens, you're as naive as the lawmakers to put idiocy into policy.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 05:47 AM
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It happens all the time in America. In most states, children born in marriage are considered to be their child, even if DNA proves it isn’t his. And judges order the innocent husband to pay, especially if the bio dad can’t be found. Because “someone” has to pay for the kids. It’s called “dad by default” in some states. But just google it. It’s fairly common. This is older, and I don’t know if it’s still happening in Michigan, but here’s an example. It happens in other states, too, including mine…
/r/MensRights30/01/23 03:29 AM
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If he's smart, it's "no one." Cluster B personality disorders are rampant and hard to spot, as they're master deceivers. And you do *not* want to get tangled up with one of those people. You can kiss your good life goodbye if that happens. You won't realize it until it's too late.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 07:48 AM
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Understood. The U.S. is slowly moving toward recognizing the importance of fathers and granting more time accordingly. So I definitely concede to a degree there. (See Kentucky a few years ago, for example. Default 50/50, as it should be). Nevertheless, it remains that in most states, especially if the kids are young, mom can easily pick up and move across the country and all but eliminate dad. I see what you are saying and I don't disagree. But if I'm young and of child-rearing age? I'm opting o…
/r/MensRights07/01/23 07:39 AM
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First of all, I don’t think opting out of a situation that contains unacceptable risk makes one an MRA. It is simply seeing the world as it is and not going that route. Currently, and for decades, the stupidest financial and legal thing any man can do is to get married and/or have kids. As far as the consequence you asked about, no, I don’t see a problem with that at all because it doesn’t matter. When she decides to leave you and take your kids and your assets, and you don’t get to raise your k…
/r/MensRights04/01/23 02:33 AM
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Judges order this shit all the time in the U.S. She has an affair, gets pregnant with some other guy’s kid. DNA test later proves the child isn’t the husband’s. Judge orders child support and extra alimony anyway when they divorce. Affair guy gets off (no pun intended) scot-free, woman receives no punishment for paternity fraud or the affair or anything. Innocent husband pays the price. Brothers, say no to marriage and no to having kids. There is nothing in it for you except unacceptable risk of…
/r/MensRights04/01/23 01:20 AM
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I’d say she’s primarily responsible, but not solely responsible. All the “men are abusers, not victims” agencies at every level are culpable, too. Police, prosecutors, judges, attorneys, mental health professionals, child advocates, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. None of them use actual forensics. They just believe all women and take full stop. They’re complicit in this death, too.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 03:32 PM
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That and we’ve become an emasculated society that just puts up with bullshit instead of fighting against it. We fought a civil war over way less than we just accept now. And I’m not just talking about men’s rights.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 04:12 PM
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Think about it. Suspending/revoking professional licenses makes it so you cannot work. Suspending/revoking drivers licenses makes it so you either can’t get to work at all, or makes getting to work very difficult. So the result is this, “We are going to make you pay child support by making it harder for you to pay child support.” It’s one of the dumbfuckiest ideas anyone has ever come up with (and implemented) surrounding child support. It makes no sense. Maybe instead of “getting the attention …
/r/MensRights26/12/22 04:05 PM
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I have similar thoughts. I figure it’s one of three things: 1) Like I was, this guy was raised to believe he was “one of the FEW ‘good men’” around, and fell into the feminist BS at a very young age. [I no longer believe most men are crap, but I literally was raised to believe it and I believed it well into adulthood, unfortunately] 2) He just wants to get laid/impress women/etc. 3) Both. Because I once believed what I was taught from a very young age about how terrible men are, I’m never quite …
/r/MensRights24/12/22 04:16 PM
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This. If all they can do is go ad hominem, they’re obviously too stupid to continue wasting your breath on them. It’s almost a gift that they showed you their (lack of) intelligence.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 04:03 PM
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Welcome to the new world, where everything is your fault and you can’t do anything right, simply because you’re male.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 03:56 PM
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Yes. They should fuck smart people instead.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 03:52 PM
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I was in your shoes once. I have a son your age. I struggle all the time with how to talk to him about it and the horrible dangers and just how epically a man’s life can be completely ruined with no hope of recovery. Best advice I can come up with is be extremely careful before you even consider getting married or having kids. Become as much of an expert as you can on uncovering undiagnosed mental health disorders in any and all love interests. Pay close attention to Cluster B personality disord…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:18 AM
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This. The only answer to her question is, “no.” There’s no need to go on about all the reasons why. In fact, a better answer is, “No. Are you?” If she says anything but no, she isn’t for you. Move on. Don’t explain yourself. Don’t get into it. Don’t try to convince her. Don’t try to educate her. She’s not likely going to listen anyway. Don’t waste your time. If she’s a feminist, chances are high that she’s probably another cluster B abusive twat looking for a doormat she can walk all over. Don’t…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:05 AM
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I get it. I really do. But IMO, it’s not worth the risk.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 09:30 PM
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The best thing a man can do for his financial security, his legal safety, even his entire life is to get a vasectomy as early as possible and avoid marriage and children like the plague. Checkmate, gold diggers, manipulators, misandrists.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 03:33 PM
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Or a victim of any kind of abuse by women, and being accused of (and believed without evidence) exactly the abuse the woman is perpetuating against you and your kids.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 03:26 PM
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Yeah, it’s shockingly common that one’s own attorney undermines his own client’s case. That is, if the client is the man.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:16 PM
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Lawyer jokes are a thing for a reason, and I don’t care if any of them are offended. I know too many attorneys to think highly of the profession — or the majority of the people in it.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:13 PM
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Ethically/Morally, it is absolutely sexual assault if your are only consenting to sex because of the alleged contraception. No means no, and “yes if…” only means yes “IF.” Legally, it is not sexual assault in most cases in most jurisdictions, but it should be. But even if it was considered sexual assault, good luck proving it unless she admits it. But that happens with “traditional” rape, too, so that should not be a deterrent to making it illegal. There are only two surefire was to protect your…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 03:23 PM
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This makes about as much sense as telling a woman who got raped that she was asking for it because of how she dressed.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 03:01 PM
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I think it’s more than just that men are recognizing they’re in a buyer’s market. My experiences are anecdotal, and I could be experiencing confirmation bias, but I’m surprised at how many are starting to recognize that there is nothing in it for them if they date/marry. This is even more true when they’re successful and single. Why in the living hell would any man who has assets and a career even consider the possibility of getting married and having children? They stand to lose it all due to h…
/r/MensRights15/09/22 03:22 PM
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I love how they kept saying how it was simple murder. Um. No. It was domestic violence murder in the presence of a minor. At least, that’s what it’d be in my state. Extra punishment because of the DV factor. Of course, there’s the little thing where women are supposedly incapable of committing DV.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 06:44 PM
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Yep. Guy I know who filed for divorce more than 16 years ago from his psycho, abusive ex. Since he’s the one who filed, he’s the petitioner, but even in their continued disputes 16.5 years later (she’s a real piece of work), he still gets misnamed as the respondent and the she/her. Since women file for like 77% of the divorces, it’s pretty much a statement on our society.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 05:39 PM
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I think you’d be far better off looking for ways to hide your real income from your business and not even saying a word to her or anyone else about it. Do it now, before it’s too late. Let’s say you’re bringing in $100k/year with your business. I’d say look for ways to make it appear like you’re only pulling in $50k, or something. Make it look like it’s less than she brings in. Hide the business’ assets so it looks like it’s worth less than it really is, too. I don’t know how it’s set up. LLC? S…
/r/MensRights08/09/22 09:33 PM
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Yeah. All the comments about lack of consent, double-standards, sexual harassment, etc, and all the upvotes those comments are getting give me a glimmer of hope for humanity. Only a glimmer, but it’s still nice to see that many realize that lack of consent isn’t ok.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:19 PM
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Greg Matos is nothing more than a self-promoting TikTok star looking for more views and more clicks. Either that, or he got his PsyD out of a Cracker Jack box (assuming he really is a PsyD and it isn’t a big lie). I say this because you’d think a PsyD would know the differences between anecdote, hyperbole, and data. I’m betting the majority of his audience is women, and his “article” (I’m using the word loosely) is just a thinly-disguised advertisement for his target audience. EDIT: I didn’t rea…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 08:50 PM
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It’s a horrible phrase on multiple levels.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 09:28 PM
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All too often, the woman is lying about the dad abandoning his kids. Sure, it happens. But it’s often a horse shit story told by a trashy woman. And then the phrase adds insult to injury to the guy whose children she ran off with/won’t let him see/plays games with/etc.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 09:26 PM
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I agree, but I intentionally compared it to something outside of a man's control. Because women are exactly the same as men in their preferences. The difference is if a man prefers a thin/fit woman, it's considered shallow on his part. But if a woman prefers tall men, it's "just a preference" and "isn't at all shallow." But it's still apples an oranges. Heavy women could take control of their fitness level and make themselves more appealing to a broader range of men, but men cannot do anything a…
/r/MensRights25/08/22 10:52 PM
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I mean, what's the difference between, "I prefer a virgin woman," vs. "I prefer tall men?" Except, of course, that little thing about how losing one's virginity is a choice they made, and how choices have consequences. One's height isn't exactly a height by choice. So, there is that.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 07:48 PM
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“Actually, your honor, she should be suing the barkeeper. They got me drunk enough to have sex with that woman. I mean, look at her. No sober guy would touch her.”
/r/MensRights20/08/22 01:50 AM
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“Actually, your honor, I intended to get her pregnant…”
/r/MensRights20/08/22 01:46 AM
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Pøliceman trained by YUTTE HERMSGERVØRDENBRØTBØRDA.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 07:37 PM
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A policeman once bit my sister.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 03:39 PM
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Why not both? You touch a kid, you get fed your balls (or your ovaries) and then locked up where you can be someone else’s bitch for the rest of your life.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 09:11 PM
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I get what you are saying, and I thought of that, too. However, the question of legality has never been a good measure of right or wrong. History is replete with examples of this.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 09:08 PM
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Dude. You say this like it’s a bad thing. Screw pedos. I did something similar once, myself, over 25 years ago. Got the creep to voice record himself saying everything he wanted to do to this fictional 14-year old girl persona I created. (It was glorious, actually). This was before LEOs started catching predators online, themselves. Also, it’s not entrapment if the person didn’t approach the creep themselves and start it up, and start pushing. But, if Creepo McFreaklepants initiates it and then …
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:21 PM
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There are many, many scholarly articles on this. Check out the works of Jennifer Harman, Amy Baker, and Warshak (his first name escapes me atm), to name just a few. I have an entire database full of over 350 scholarly works and am very well-read and have written and presented at conferences a bit on these subjects. While I cannot share the articles themselves (copyrights), I can provide basic info and help point you in the right direction. Feel free to contact me directly if you’d like. Let me k…
/r/MensRights16/08/22 06:03 AM
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“at least they said "sexual abuse" instead of ‘had sex with’” Only in the headline. The body downplays it in the first sentence. “A former choir teacher at Tomball Intermediate School was sentenced Tuesday to 60 days in jail for engaging in a sexual relationship with a student.” Also to note is 60 days in jail. Not prison. Fucking jail. And even her own attorney admits she got off easy (no pun intended) because she’s a woman.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 11:59 AM
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I mean, I doubt any single father spends even a fraction of the time bitching about how hard it is to be a single parent and looking for handouts, hero-worship, and validation as your average single mother. They’re too busy giving their kids the best life possible to waste time on that.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 02:20 PM
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In news that should surprise no one, the bigger the guy’s bank account, the sexier he is.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 07:52 AM
4

I don’t care what I look like in the eyes of the law (e.g. the executive branch, or the police). I care what I look like in the eyes of the judicial branch (e.g. a judge and jury). You do you, but if police ever want to talk to me, I’m not going to talk to them. I’ll share my alibi with the court if it ever gets that far. The police may be good guys, but if they are investigating you, they are not your friend, no matter how innocent you are.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 08:28 PM
1

Read it again. You’re not lying if you’re not talking.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 07:58 PM
64

One fantastic thing you can do, if you’re in the U.S. is do not talk to the police.. You get accused? And the police come knocking? STFU. Say nothing. And I mean nothing. Invoke your fifth amendment protections, and STFU. You don’t even acknowledge that you know her. You say nothing. And that includes talking to her. Chances are, if she calls or texts you after a false accusation, they’re listening and she’s trying to trap you. Say nothing. Do not respond. Block her. I have a good friend who may…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 06:27 AM
14

These organizations almost always find ways to inflate their numbers because it’s tied to their funding and their angry, hateful rhetoric. Notice how in their language, they conflate the terms “rape” and “sexual assault.” All rape is sexual assault, but not all sexual assault is rape. But take a close look at their wording. It’s an artful way to make it seem like all men are perpetrators.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 05:39 AM
1

Things work differently in my state. To my knowledge, it’s the only state that does things this way, but it’s almost impossible to get to an actual trial. He’s been in a dozen hearings before what’s called a commissioner. A commissioner has almost all the power of a judge, but isn’t a judge, and isn’t subject to the scrutiny that judges are. They’re “just employees” of the court. They get hired, and never get fired. One commissioner was so blatantly anti-man, and everyone knew it. Savvy attorney…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 05:12 AM
1

Yeah. This guy is leaning heavily toward firing his attorney and representing himself. He’s looking forward to the idea of putting her on the stand and asking a bunch of yes/no questions to back her pathetic ass into a corner and then introducing a mountain of evidence proving she is and always has been full of shit. The Johnny Depp trial really inspired him. The only thing I am worry about is if it makes him come across as a bully. But at the same time, I don’t know how it would. The truth is t…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 11:06 PM
1

Oh, and then there’s if and when a guardian ad litem is assigned to the case. They will fuck things up even worse. And they’re pretty much guaranteed to do that. That’s part of what happened in this case.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 05:25 PM
1

Attorneys sabotaged him. Partly because they believed the other side’s lies, partly because they are too busy trying to “play nice” than aggressively represent him, and partly because they’re incompetent. It’s a really, really tough call on whether to spend money on attorneys or not. I do know guys who were losing like crazy until they decided to represent themselves, and that’s when they started winning. On the other hand is the old adage: “He who represents themselves has a fool for a client.”…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 05:23 PM
6

Most cases. Not some. CS is WAAAAAY more than child-rearing costs, unless you’re low income.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:55 PM
1

He had attorneys. He is on his seventh. He picked his attorneys based on recommendations from his connections. One of his attorneys (his current) won an award this year. In most cases, he ended up being undermined by his own attorneys. He’s considering firing his last attorney and just representing himself, because they’re too incompetent. Don’t get me started on his attorneys. His first one wasn’t bad, but dropped him and moved out of state to take another job. The basics of what happens is thi…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:47 PM
1

On top of this, I have another friend. His ex was a known drug abuser, in the presence of the kids. Verified. Multiple witnesses. Pictures. Recordings. Documents from doctors. Long story short on his, he lost, too. A month after he lost, his ex drove while high, with the 2-year-old daughter in the car, and crashed. She survived. His daughter was killed on impact. She spent a short amount of time in prison for it, but it doesn’t matter. The little girl is still dead. The one I told you about abov…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:35 PM
2

There is way too much to really tell. It’s full-on book level. This barely scratches the surface. It’s so bad that if I didn’t see it with my own eyes, I wouldn’t believe it. I’d think there was more to the story. But there isn’t. It really is this nightmare-ish. He had 16 years of recorded phone calls, text messages, emails, recorded in-person conversations, and then his daughter was showing signs of sexual abuse by stepdad, other signs of physical and mental abuse by the same piece of shit, an…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:26 PM
10

I wish I had good news for you. But, after seeing someone near and dear to me go through absolute hell, it’s unlikely that you’ll win anything and preserve anything at all in the courts. At least, not in the U.S. You would not believe this guy’s story. Some of it is similar to what you’ve described here. Some of it is worse.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 02:40 AM
7

Oh, for sure. No question about it. What I’m saying is if you’re a middle-class guy. Buying a house. Have some stuff. Not rich by any stretch, but you’re not exactly struggling, either. Mapped out a plan for your life and you’re executing it well. You can lose everything, and your entire life is ruined with a stroke of a judge’s pen.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 08:59 PM
53

All I can say is it’s everything you think it is and a hell of a lot worse. Getting married and having children is the worst legal and financial decision a man can make, especially if he is already established, has a career, assets, etc. And it’s not uncommon at all for courts to saddle you with child support for a child that is not yours. Happens all the time. Be extremely cautious. As just one example, you get married, she cheats on you and gets pregnant with another man’s child. Everyone, inc…
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:50 PM
26

Wait. Men care about things other than sex? They’re not sex animals? Pfft. Next thing, you’re going to say we have feelings.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 08:41 PM
1

A little more than 100 years ago, states adopted what they called the "tender years' doctrine" in regards to child custody after divorce. This essentially said that children automatically go with their mothers, as policymakers were convinced that children didn't need their dads and instead should go with their mothers. Around 50 years ago, amongst constitutional, equal protection (e.g. oppression) concerns, states adopted the "best interests" standard. Meaning, the court will decide what is "bes…
/r/MensRights05/08/22 09:22 AM
2

More than the woman before her, she should blame the government for encouraging/allowing/facilitating this.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 02:00 AM
1

Holy crap.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 11:06 PM
4

Absolutely. It begins with their entire relationship being based on her lies, including her feigned commitment to their religion. And it was all downhill from there. Poor guy is about the kindest, most caring man you could ever meet. He’d give his last shirt to a complete stranger in need, if he hadn’t lost it and everything else due to the POS he married and a government that assists and encourages ruining lives. Such an incredible father, too. Too bad his kids never got to really experience hi…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:25 PM
5

Oh, absolutely this. Do NOT live with anyone, either, for this reason. Keep your stuff yours and she can keep her stuff hers. You want to stay at each other’s houses sometimes, fine. Make sure you’re snipped. But never, and I mean NEVER live with anyone unless you’re very clearly the less-earning by one by a lot, and always will be. But even at that, it’s questionable.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:36 PM
7

Many a man have had his life ruined due to the religion pretext. Religious women can turn out to be just a psycho as anyone else. And the law provides zero protection to men. As a former very staunchly religious person, myself, I never want to bag on anyone’s deeply-held beliefs. But someone near and dear to me had this happen. You wouldn’t believe the nightmare he is living, specifically because he wanted to “live his religion.” I don’t know how he isn’t suicidal at this point. It’s so bad that…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:30 PM
53

Basically, prenups are not worth the paper they’re printed on anymore than divorce orders are. Marriage is exactly like drugs: just say no. Seriously. There is nothing in it for men. Avoid marriage and children at all cost. At least until government protects all parties equally, which will never happen in our lifetime. If you have assets — and it sounds like you do — avoid marriage and children at ALL costs.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 08:32 AM
8

You are not selfish, dirty, bad, or in any way wrong for wanting sex with the one person on earth to whom you’ve committed yourself. One of the greater lessons you can learn in life is this. Don’t believe all the misandrist bullshit that tried to tell you that men are somehow “bad” for wanting sex. You’re not. What is “bad” is being in a committed relationship with someone and denying them sex. If you’re married, that’s the “to have and to hold” part of the marital vow. She still has the right t…
/r/MensRights30/07/22 03:43 PM
9

If you don’t think men suffer, too (often without realizing it), then you aren’t paying attention.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 09:00 AM
143

Don’t forget “dodging responsibility” and “refusing to grow up.”
/r/MensRights25/07/22 05:46 AM
22

“When danger reared it’s ugly head, she bravely turned her tail and fled…”
/r/MensRights24/07/22 03:47 PM
3

The cost-benefit analysis of men getting married and having kids is way too out of proportion. Our society has been too conditioned to believe that men are generally bad to make any real change anytime soon. I remember being taught over and over as a kid — and ashamed to say I believed it way too far into adulthood — that almost all men are bad for no other reason that they’re men. And most men I know believe that they’re “one of the few good men around.” The feminazis really worked us over.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 03:12 PM
7

Yep. She could get pregnant by you, not say a word, marry someone else who is there every step of the way, and then when the “child” is 21.5 years old, she and her husband can come after you for the 18 years of support, plus interest. The kid could have no idea that her dad isn’t her dad. And of course, since the kid is an adult who has never met you, he/she probably doesn’t care to. And you’ve lost ah entire lifetime of that relationship. And no one cares. It’s beyond absolutely insane. It’s da…
/r/MensRights24/07/22 07:48 AM
7

In my state, she has until the kid turns 22 to sue for support. Beyond ridiculous.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 07:28 AM
2

This guy is more than a little bit tedious, himself. Not to mention a bit full of himself.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 03:29 AM
12

One word, besides that it’s an ad, describes this whole thing: Vapid.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:59 PM
26

In my state in the U.S., throwing things is automatically DV. Theoretically, she’d be charged just for that. I say “theoretically,” because I think we all know it’s generally one-sided prosecution (women are victims, no matter what and men are perps, no matter what). Having said that, I have a friend who is a prosecutor. He won’t hesitate to go after these women. We’ve talked about it. He is the first to say that they all (probably rightly, except in his jurisdiction) think that they can do anyt…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 06:29 AM
412

Yeah, that’s where they lost me, as well. Kind of destroyed the credibility of the entire post.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:46 AM
4

If it’s me, I’m not reporting a damn thing until I have multiple recordings of the problem. In this day and age, it’s pretty easy to catch a repeat offender. Expect it to backfire on you. Use your smartphone to record the problem, if at all possible. Lacking battery or storage space? Buy a discreet recorder (like a pen or smart glasses) and keep it turned on and recording at all times. Then, once you have enough evidence to burn everyone down, go to HR. Keep it quiet that you have recordings. If…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:17 AM
34

I only had to read a couple paragraphs to realize that EJ Dickson, obviously a woman who is part of the “believe all women and no credibility or evidence is necessary” movement, is either dishonest, a moron, or both.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 06:26 AM
1

Misandry is a product of bigotry. And rabid feminism.
/r/MensRights05/04/22 05:39 PM
1

Men, especially white men, are rapidly becoming the most marginalized group in society. And nowhere is this more true than in family courts. In fact, that's arguably where it all started.
/r/MensRights05/04/22 06:11 AM
3

Give it 20 years or so of being on the market and if it's still safe after that, I'd be in. Although, at my age, 20 years isn't going to do me any good. But maybe my boy will be safe from entrapment.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 09:40 PM
11

This is obviously anecdotal, but when it was reported in the local news here, the social media posts was nothing but women complaining about the patriarchy and how they want a non-hormonal solution, etc. Every woman except one with whom I've spoken about male birth control, including the already-available vasectomy, hate it. My belief is it strips them of control over men. What I despise about the whole thing is how researchers are praising it as a way for men to "step up" and "take responsibili…
/r/MensRights25/03/22 09:38 PM
2

It’s a little early for me to contribute much to provide a useful answer the question, but I just want to say that the mere fact that you’d ask in the first place is a huge start. Also, recognizing that men are very marginalized in today’s world, and looking for ways to see it helps. For the first, most obvious, “low-hanging fruit” example, look no further than family law and how devastating it is to have one’s children stripped away from them in divorce court for no reason other than the crime …
/r/MensRights04/03/22 03:04 PM
2

That’s the way Reddit is. Acknowledge you don’t know for sure, and boom. You’re a heretic.
/r/MensRights22/02/22 09:26 AM
-27

I could be wrong, but I think the Supreme Court struck down the selective service bit a few years ago. But 100% on the other two.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 12:55 AM
3

Dr. Jennifer Harman at Colorado State University has done a little bit of work in this area. Mostly as it relates to parental alienation and false accusations of child abuse, though, so it may not be exactly what you’re looking for. But it might get you started.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:09 PM
5

This, this, this, 10,000,000x this. You damn well better be keeping meticulous records of you paying support. You need absolute proof that you are faithfully paying. Talk to a lawyer, but I’d start out with a polite conversation with her saying that if she wants it to be “off the books” because she benefits, then the trade-off is you need her to agree to receipts and a paper trail to which you can refer just in case there’s any question in the future. Be nice about it, and explain that you don’t…
/r/MensRights06/08/21 03:22 AM
31

I’m not ok with the rioting, looting, violence going on in response to police brutality. I am fully supportive of protests. But there is a reason the entire world is furious right now, and the police, including the so-called “good majority,” are 100% to blame for it. Beating a suspect within inches of his life, when he isn’t being violent himself, even if he’s otherwise guilty as sin, is not ok.
/r/MensRights05/06/20 11:38 PM
2

Erasing Family, by the same director, was just released a couple weeks ago. It’s not specifically about dads like this one, but it’s similar, very good, and worth the watch. www.erasingfamily.org
/r/MensRights10/05/20 06:03 AM
6

“Yeah, we definitely don’t want equality in the family courts...”
/r/MensRights23/04/20 06:44 AM
3

Except, she still gets paid a hefty sum for not working. Fire her bitch ass.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 06:27 AM
18

So many men never, ever learn. It’s insane.
/r/MensRights26/03/20 11:18 PM
4

I wish I could upvote this 1,000 times. “Staying for the kids” often doesn’t mean you’re just staying because you think it’s “better” for them not to come from a broken home. It means you’re willing to serve your life in prison sentence (e.g. marriage) because the alternative divorce rape is worse than receiving a death sentence.
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 03:53 PM
3

The family courts are the real villains. Government’s entire purpose is to protect people from each other. In family court, it not only allows the abuse and harm, it facilitates it.
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 03:38 PM
9

No matter how lonely you are, I promise you that it’s nothing compared to the divorce rape. If there’s anything I wish I could teach myself 20 years ago is nothing is worth the risk of divorce rape. It’s a fate worse than death. The only thing keeping me alive post-divorce rape is the (probably false) hope that things will eventually get better. I’d tell myself to get a vasectomy ASAP and avoid relationships like the plague. I was a single, lonely 25-year-old once. That shit is fucking paradise …
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 03:25 PM
12

Except, after the divorce rape, those buddies will be too busy working three jobs in order to pay child support, alimony, and a mountain of her debt to hang out at all.
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 03:12 PM
3

I live in a decent-sized city of over 80,000. If you include suburbs, it’s closer to 150,000. Not huge by any stretch, but not exactly tiny, either. Of course, my friends are in a lodge with a metro area of around 2 million, so.... lol. I just don’t want to drive for an hour to participate in that one.
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 04:02 PM
4

I thought about joining the masons, myself, for years. I went to an open house they had at my local lodge. I am friends with a couple people who are masons in a lodge an hour’s drive away. I was really turned off by it, as the youngest guy there was AT LEAST 30 years older than I am (I’m in my 40s). It was really hot and stuffy in there, and really uncomfortable. I’m guessing it’s different in other lodges, as my friends who are masons are in my general age group. But I didn’t see much room for …
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 03:47 PM
11

You don’t even need to read his story to know his story. The look on his face says it all.
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 12:25 AM
5

Nah. There’s always some beta willing to spend his hard-earned money on some dumb broad who doesn’t deserve it and hasn’t earned it.
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 12:02 AM
21

“We encourage anyone who has experienced sexual abuse in the past to speak out and seek support.” But don’t expect equal justice under the law. That’s asking for too much.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 11:53 PM
6

The answer is in the premise: Marriage is, “fundamentally an economic transaction.” And divorce is almost entirely the same thing. Therefore, “economically attractive” men who have figured out just how unfavorable almost everything about marriage is wouldn’t go near it with a 10,000-ft pole. As far as the men who aren’t “economically attractive” are concerned: what’s wrong with wanting to be the beneficiary of the reverse of tradition? Let the woman go out and make a living. Let him stay home an…
/r/MGTOW02/10/19 11:40 PM
-2

The article did have one sentence that alluded to her having a low IQ and poor reasoning skills. If she’s mentally challenged and has the reasoning skills of a person close to this boy’s age, I can actually see this making some sense. I’d like more information about that before grabbing the pitchforks and torches. (That said, I highly doubt a mentally challenged man would get so lenient of s sentence in a similar situation.)
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:56 AM
9

Same here. It’s sick how many people say, in so many words, that, “I’m a guy, so therefore I wanted it.”
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:47 AM
16

If you get banned for a post like this, then I will conclude that this sub has jumped the shark and will leave, myself. What any hurting person, man or woman, really wants is to be heard, and understood. Thank you for your post.
/r/MensRights30/09/19 04:11 AM
2

Child support and alimony are not the same thing. Child support is (supposedly) for the kid , while alimony is for the ex spouse.
/r/MensRights29/09/19 06:00 AM
2

I would have given similar advice 15 years ago. Unfortunately, that is not reality when you’re dealing with a narcissist. It’s a real mental health disorder,
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 06:07 PM
3

You don’t. But if you want to try, become an expert at recognizing and running from narcissists.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 02:33 PM
5

Narcissism is real. Once you’re trapped in a narcissist’s clutches, with children, life is a living hell. And even suicide isn’t a way out because you know your children still need you, even if their narcissist, abusive mother is lying to them and poisoning them against you. And narcissists are very, VERY adept at getting you to trust them. Very skilled psychopaths.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 02:31 PM
2

No self-respecting man, red-pilled or not, would put up with this shit.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 01:31 PM
40

So much of this sounds exactly like my ex wife, it’s uncanny. That cunt ruined my life. 15 years of hell later, and there is no light at the end of any tunnel. GYOW, gents. Fuck marriage. Avoid having children at all costs.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 01:14 PM
15

In my mind, the first priorities are 1) Never get married and 2) Never, under any circumstances, have children. Follow those two rules, and you can’t get your life ruined to the magnificent degree that those of us who went before you did. It is seriously worse than you can imagine.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 01:03 PM
4

Holy hell. I just looked through it. Even before I was red pilled, their “strategy” would never have worked on me. No self-respecting man is going to put up with that.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 09:07 PM
19

No kidding on this one. The moment they use a word like “mansplain,” unless they’re making fun of the word “mansplain,” is the moment they’ve lost me forever. Not that they really ever had me, but still...
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 08:52 PM
18

...or look over height. 😂
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 08:36 PM
3

What men can do to prevent it: Avoid marriage in the first place.
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 10:44 PM
10

This, exactly. These women have absolutely nothing to lose. They can spread their legs for anyone and everyone else and still laugh all the way to the bank after divorce raping the guy. And she can have some other poor soul in her clutches before the ink is dry on the judges order to ruin the first guy’s life.
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 10:30 PM
6

When I was a kid in the 80s, I had some dumb girl try to push me around. She threatened me like this girl obviously was. I stood my ground. She very clearly had the “You can’t hit a girl” mentality. I told her that if she hits me, I’ll hit her back. She backed right the hell down. Smart girl.
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 05:53 PM
7

I live in America, and this is similar to, but not as bad as my divorce rape. She took our two kids (ages 4y, the other was 4m old) and moved two states away. We owned a house that I bought before I ever met her. I had $120,000 in equity. I was making $101,000/year. When we got married, I paid off all her debts ($26,000). We were only married 6 years. We are completely debt-free except for the house. (If I’d have been smart and stayed single, the house would’ve been paid off. It was a nice house…
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 05:34 PM
26

I don’t know if YTA, but you are a dumbass for getting married in the first place.
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 05:17 PM
200

Girls, We know you’re strong, independent women who don’t need no man doing your stuff for you. Therefore, we’ll go ahead and leave you to it.
/r/MensRights22/09/19 04:15 PM
1

Since she committed a crime which ended up in her getting pregnant, she is automatically disqualified from having any custody at all in the first place, so no. He’d automatically have full custody, with zero parent time to her. None. She’d have to pay support to him. That is, of course, if she didn’t abort. And if she never admitted the child was his, she’d never pay a dime, but neither would he.
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 05:41 PM
4

Here in Utah a few years ago, the state passed a bill that says that any perpetrator of a sexual crime that results in a pregnancy has no rights to custody of that child. The intent was to make it so a rapist can’t have any rights to the child he fathered via his rape (he still has to pay child support). But I imagine a 30-year-old woman who becomes pregnant as a result of screwing a 12-year-old boy would have the same law apply to her. That said, if he doesn’t want the child and the child goes …
/r/MGTOW20/09/19 05:35 PM
10

Time to issue the #DomesticViolenceChallenge to see if your girlfriend can take the lifetime consequences of DV charges/convictions.
/r/MensRights05/06/19 02:20 PM
1

It’s normal if you’ve ever been “divorce raped.” But I’m guessing (hoping) that’s not the case if you’re 20. ;-)
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 08:58 AM
1

She’s absolutely the asshole. She knew this guy was in the military and would eventually be reassigned, but dated him anyway. She knew it, but married him anyway because she was “head over heels in love.” (I question whether women are even capable of that emotion, but that’s another thread entirely) Then he gets reassigned and she tries to uproot her children to fit her whole selfish, new life, which she engaged in with no though to how her any of it would affect her children. And that’s not eve…
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 08:44 AM
12

Pass. Always pass.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 07:47 AM
2

...and the guy still didn’t get laid.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 07:42 AM
1

The flaw in your argument is the belief that any man who is married is actually “getting any.” Fastest way to a celibate life is 1) Get married and 2) be faithful to your wife.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 07:31 AM
6

My ex wife used to say almost those exact words all the time. At the time, I thought she was kidding/trying to be cute. How naive I was.
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 01:18 PM
19

That guy is a fool. At least, in the US, most states will hit him with child support, contract or no, if she asks for it, unless they went through a fertility clinic of some kind. In my state, she can wait until the child is 17.5 years old and then come looking for 18 years of child support. She can take everything he owns to pay that back support. Moral of the story: having children is one of the dumbest things you can do if you’re a guy (at least, until the law catches up with sanity).
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 01:15 PM
13

Only if the woman allows him to. Plus, there has been many a man on the hook for child support for a child that demonstrably isn’t his.
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 01:10 PM
4

Hah! I don’t even trust my mother! She’s a fantastic model of AWALT. It’s just too bad that I didn’t figure it out until it was too late.
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 12:50 PM
4

I mean no offense whatsoever, but this guy doesn’t know how good he has it. I know a lot of men who’ve had women do a LOT worse crap to them, including taking their children, divorce rape, etc, etc, etc. and they keep making the same mistakes over and over again...having more children with second and third wives...and then bitching when it doesn’t work out and they’re paying $1,000s in Ali,only and child support. And then they do it again. Hope brother learns his lesson and realizes that no woma…
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 12:21 PM
3

Probably true. I was actually really surprised when he told me this for all the reasons you point out.
/r/MGTOW16/04/19 04:42 AM
10

Yeah, in my state that would be considered DV. I’m friends with a prosecutor who wouldn’t hesitate to charge her with DV over something like that, either. Funny thing about that, he tells me that these days he prosecutes women more often than men for DV for two reasons: 1) Men are often smart enough to STFU when the police arrive. Exercise their right to remain silent. 2) Women have been so ingrained with the belief that they can do anything they want to a man and not only get away with it, but …
/r/MGTOW15/04/19 08:51 PM
1

Nah. Suicide is just another in a very long list of things that men are better at than women. 😂😂😂
/r/MensRights18/03/19 02:55 PM
10

Having done the single dad thing to two children under 5 (4-y/o and 4-month old) because the piece of trash decided our family was not worth her time.... AND struggling because I had to cover 100% of daycare AND having to PAY child support when I had full custody...for 2.5 years until the divorce rape was complete... ...I can say with full authority of personal experience, the whole struggling single mom “poor me” bullshit is just that: pure, unadulterated bullshit. Every single time I hear some…
/r/MGTOW11/03/19 05:54 AM
1

Correct. Except, my follow-up line would’ve been, “Oh, I’m sorry. I must have mistaken you for a good person. My bad.” And then walked off. Never put up with their shit, and never be afraid to put them in their place, no matter how ‘beautiful’ they are.
/r/MGTOW26/02/19 06:53 AM
7

Start hiding money...as much as you can possibly muster, in cash, far and away from anything she can find. Start hiding property. Stop contributing to retirement funds and redirect the money, in cash, to somewhere she or the government can’t get it. Slowly drain bank accounts, hide the cash. See if you can find ways to hide assets. Find a (fake) reason to out a second mortgage. Hide the cash. Transfer as many assets as possible into cash and hide it. Liquidate as much as possible, but spend as l…
/r/MGTOW26/02/19 06:11 AM
9

Hell Yeah. She’ll have learned the entitled “you are here to serve me” B.S. works. Hope this brother runs. He’s been given a great gift: he found out before it’s too late.
/r/MGTOW26/02/19 05:23 AM
1

I didn’t want kids either, specifically because I was terrified of what would happen if she ever divorced me. Then I stupidly let her convince me that she would never do the things that would ruin my life. We talked about it even before I married her. And I naively believed that since this is America, I’d be treated fairly even if things went sideways. Because freedom. I was worth 7 figures at age 26. Now I live in my mom’s basement at age 45, and I never get to see my kids, who I love and adore…
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 02:29 PM
1

Rent, brother. Rent. You don’t want to be tied to that shit.
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 01:44 PM
19

The weight loss is the bonus. She wants your money.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 12:28 PM
1

Not only one baby momma, but TWO baby mommas died, thereby releasing this man from 20 years of “child support” slavery, AND he gets to raise his beautiful children!? This, my friends, is what we call “hitting the jackpot.” He has his kids. He should get a vasectomy and swear off women and marriage before it’s too late. He’s been given a great gift. I hope he does not squander it (he probably will).
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 12:20 PM
16

In my state it IS illegal (Class B misdemeanor - up to six months in jail, $1,000 fine). The legislature is in session right now, and there is a bill going through to repeal it.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 12:09 PM
2

Keep in mind that I DO NOT condone it at all. Not one whit. Not even close. I’m just pointing out the logic in it. I’m absolutely convinced that in a LOT of the divorce-related murders or murder-suicides, this is the thinking behind it. This is what’s going through the per’s mind. These guys refuse to be slaves and are willing to kill over it. I would never do it, but I get it.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 11:43 AM
2

Good man.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 11:37 AM
1

Half the stuff you own now, plus half your paycheck in “child support” and alimony for at least the next 20 years.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 11:32 AM
3

Dude. NEVER rely on a prenup. It will not protect you. Signed contract or no, judges disregard them ALL THE TIME. NEVER believe for a second that the legal system will protect you. It won’t. It’s worse than you would ever believe. Take it from those of us who went before you. The only way to win is not to play.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 11:29 AM
2

You must have an ex-wife, then. ;)
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 11:07 AM
2

Sorry, ladies. That’s what got me into trouble in the first place, over 20 years ago. Never again. Well, maybe again, if not only you, but the government starts treating me like I matter. But we both know that’s not going to happen, so no. Just...no.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 10:51 AM
5

She does look kinda man-ish. Look at those eyebrows and that bone structure. $5 says she’s actually a guy. And probably a “nice” one, at that.
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 10:39 AM
1

As an ENTJ, I’m, like, “Yeah, but who the hell in their right mind would want to?”
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 10:37 AM
2

Smart guys won’t fuck me*
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 10:34 AM
7

Long explanation warning. TL;DR - It might be hella sweet, but it’s not worth the risk. Not by a long shot. Women who can be classified as “Unicorns” do exist, but they’re way too few and way too far-between, and it’s honestly not worth the risk. Men lose custody of their kids 90.1% of the time in my state. 89.9% of the time nationally. Child support is not based on the costs of raising the children, but on what your married neighbors SPEND on theirs. (Big difference). A number that economists d…
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 10:17 AM
8

Fucking Karen is what got you in trouble in the first place, bro. 😂
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 08:32 AM
1

Seriously. I’m new to MGTOW. Never head of I until a few months ago. Only interaction I’ve ever had with it is in the past few days on this subreddit. And I have never understood this behavior. I got shafted in a divorce 13 years ago and I’m astounded at all the men who think I am the crazy one for opting out. Yet so many men I know go from getting screwed by one woman to doing it again and again....and complain about how unfair family law is. every. Damn. Time. Opt out, bro! Opt out!
/r/MGTOW02/02/19 02:53 PM
2

Makes me think of using their words against them, only changed a little to fit us. “I’m a strong, independent man and I don’t need some pussy to get by...” 😂
/r/MGTOW02/02/19 02:33 PM
1

Yes. The living hell for me after 13 years is a catch-22. I’ve considered ending it all over losing everything, especially my kids. But I can’t because although I hardly get to see my kids (twice/year), I think of them and know they need me.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/19 02:00 PM
1

If that’s all it was, I’d agree with you 100%. But you should take a look at how severe a DV charge really is and all the things that can an will happen to you. It varies state by state, but VAWA throws big money at the states over DV. It becomes modern-day Salem witch trials and the repercussions are severe.
/r/MGTOW02/02/19 01:53 PM
1

You’re not alone, brother. Forcibly lost everything, including my two angels I’d have freely given everything for, 13 years ago this month. Don’t ever get married a second time or have more kids. The risks just aren’t worth it. Opt out. Stay strong. I know too many men personally who never learned and are in their second and third complete,y getting screwed divorces. You don’t need that crap or anyone else ruining your life.
/r/MGTOW02/02/19 01:45 PM
2

This, brother. So much this. It’s immeasurably better that you found out now than a couple years of marriage and a couple kids. I cannot emphasize enough how big of a bullet you dodged. You just can’t imagine how badly you’d have taken it up the tailpipe in court for the sole crime of having a penis.
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 02:08 PM
1

Except, if you even look at a woman cross-eyed, you’re on your way to jail for domestic violence. What she did to you doesn’t matter, even if you have video proof. Happened to a buddy of mine. Audio and video proof that his psycho ex wife was violent with him. She was the one throwing punches, screaming, etc. He spent the holidays in jail, and away from his kids (it was his year to have them for the holidays), having never touched her. When he finally got before a judge after the holidays, it wa…
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 12:55 PM
2

Even more hilarious is clearly no one taught these actresses how to throw a punch. It’s really comical when you pay attention to the way they hit and magically knock a solid guy twice (or more) her size out. I am not a big guy, but dayaumn, I wouldn’t even feel most of those punches, kicks, etc. it’s hilarious.
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 12:21 PM
1

Hey, if all he ad to deal wit is being down an employee due to maternity leave, he would count himself lucky. He could employ a woman and be rewarded with false accusations of some sexual impropriety because she was a lazy twat and he didn’t give her a raise as a result.
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 11:21 AM
1

Expert-level divorce handling. This is exactly the right way to handle it. Don’t get caught in the trap of having feelings for her. Don’t try to be nice. You play to win, and you go for the jugular, showing no mercy whatsoever. “Nice” is for after the divorce and the dust settles. You HAVE TO be merciless about it, because as a man, the deck is stacked severely against you. If “the system” were fair, you could play nice. But it isn’t, so you can’t. This man deserves a medal. He’s my new hero.
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 10:42 AM
3

If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard a woman say something like, “I’m a woman and I hate working with other women,” I’d be a very wealthy man.
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 08:41 PM
1

True words. The most expensive hooker is cheaper than a divorce with kids. And since she’s the one selling, it’s in her best interests to be nice to those who are buying.
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 06:04 PM
1

13 years ago, I would have completely agreed with you RE:joint custody. I’m older and wiser now. Best thing to do is go for FULL custody. Once you have full custody, you can call the shots. You can let her have plenty of time with the child, but YOU are the primary parent and she can’t fuck up your life - or more importantly, your child’s life - quite so easily. If it came down to it, you an always compromise and agree to joint with YOU listed as the primary parent. Without going into detail, le…
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 05:46 PM
1

This... ...except if you’re like me and actually WANT your children, don’t offer to change child support until you’ve had full custody for 6-9 months. Get her to fall for it, establish your role as the primary parent, let her galavant and be irresponsible and ignore the child. Pretend you’re doing her a big favor and be super nice about it. Once you’ve established yourself as THE parent, bring the smack down on her hard. Go after child support, plus back child support, etc. go before a judge and…
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 05:40 PM
2

Never, NEVER deluded yourself into believing you will be treated fairly. You won’t. Believe me, your penis is the biggest liability and it’s damned near impossible to overcome it. One strategy you could employ is to lose your part time job if you can afford to lose the income. Become the sole caregiver for the kids. Stay at home dad. Rely on her income. Encourage her to go out with friends regularly. Take time away from home. Etc, etc. play it off like you’re doing her a favor for as long as pos…
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 05:27 PM
1

The only way you’re financially independent and married is if you’re hiding a shit-ton of money. Or if she’s the breadwinner. Even at that, you’re only one false accusation away from being royally fucked.
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 05:00 PM
1

I want to know what kind of golden marriage the author had where he got sex and emotional support.
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 04:46 PM
2

That’s only funny after you divorce her. Otherwise, you’re on the hook for child support for A child that isn’t yours, sterility be damned.
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 04:42 PM
1

If that were the case, you’d think she’d discuss it with him. That he’s In the dark is a pretty good indication of what’s really going on.
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 04:38 PM
2

Biggest mistake of m life was getting married and letting her talk me into having children. I naively believed government would treat me fairly if she ever left. Boy was I wrong. I was successful, could have retired at age 26. Now I’m 45, broke as hell, $45,000 in debt, live in my mom’s basement because of the shit show that is family law, and my kids who I love DEARLY were taken 800 miles away and I rarely get to see them and the only thing government gives a shit about is if I pay child suppor…
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 04:28 PM
1

I think it’s easier to count the times they DON’T project....
/r/MGTOW28/01/19 05:35 PM
1

Excellent point. The nuclear option is real.
/r/MGTOW28/01/19 05:28 PM
2

There needs to be a new level. Expert: turning the tables entirely. Living off the woman in the relationship. Let her support me, take care of me, etc. although it’d be better to support myself, previous divorce fucks it all up. I refuse to be some bitch’s meal ticket. I’ll be the user this time. God knows if I didn’t use her, she would use someone else. I might as well beat her to the punch. Save some other poor shlub while I do whatever I have to to preserve myself and my kids from that previo…
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 09:04 AM
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