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Good luck dude. I've basically abandoned this sub. They're posting about manspreading and Jordan Peterson and shit. I actually did a double-take when I saw your post because it seemed to care more about male rape victims than false rape accusations, which is one of the metrics I use to measure if a men's movement actually cares about men. Maybe there's still hope here, but... Not much. It's really discouraging.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 09:18 AM
-7

Actually just found out this sub has been intentionally brigaded by /r/MensRights, so I don't think anyone is here in good faith. I'll just patiently wait to get banned for being a leftist again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 04:48 PM
-15

This sub is a parody at this point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 02:56 PM
2

Yeah good point. I know some people call themselves "gender abolitionist" as a way to be bigoted against transgender people and that is not at all what I'm talking about. It's more a matter of applying feminist ideas in a way that's mirrored for every gender. That's why I dont like r/menslib. It doesn't apply feminism to men. It just gives men's issues a small section within feminism from a female perspective. And I don't really like what this sub has become either. It's more focused on criticiz…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 05:16 PM
1

"gender abolition" is not a great term for what I mean as it doesn't seem to immediately communicate the concept very well. It's just the closest term I've heard other people use in reference to similar frameworks. I mean, I'm not a sex abolitionist. But I am against infant circumcision if that's all you're asking. Like I mentioned, I spent a lot of time on the old /r/MensRights sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 04:49 PM
1

I'm a gender abolitionist, so if that is that then sure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 02:00 PM
1

Well yeah, exactly. It's not, like, partially Anti-Capitalist or progressive or anything. This sub reads like a clone of r/MensRights basically. It's just anti-feminist and that's all the politics there is. Seems like a recent thing too, cause I've been here a while. Edit: I feel like it suddenly just got popular to be a "leftist" or something for some reason and a lot of people don't really know what that means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 10:03 AM
-2

What exactly do people here consider "left wing?" Is just anybody left wing now?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 09:39 AM
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I dunno.... This sub is a little weirdly anti-faminist. I don't think feminism has a very good place for men inside its movement, but I still like the framework for analyzing gender issues, and I want to mirror its criticisms from a men's perspective to explain body image issues and negative gender roles and stuff. I guess I'm more of a gender abolitionist. Kind of like the stuff Vaush talks about. Modern feminism isn't the problem, but I get the feeling some people here think it is for some rea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/21 06:10 PM
1

Can't be racist against white people.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 08:04 AM
1

I'm all for men's rights, but fuck white people. Just to be clear. This sub is for men. We're not all hopping on your white supremacy train though.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 07:41 AM
1

Any time there's a post on this sub where it does what this one did - take a feminist issue and switch the sides to show a hypocrisy - it always switches between women and rape and men and false rape accusations. This seems pretty intentional, since if you wanted to do this, you'd be interested in keeping as much consistency as possible. Even if false rape accusations were a relatively equal problem with rape, you'd still want to make an example with rape, just to keep as many variables consiste…
/r/MensRights20/01/19 05:56 PM
1

The most telling thing about this sub is when it thinks false rape accusations are a bigger problem than actual rape. An ad about women stopping women from raping men would make much more sense. I don't know the numbers about false rape accusations compared to unreported female rape victims, and neither do you. But I do know that unreported male rape victims are a huge, huge problem.
/r/MensRights19/01/19 04:11 PM
1

I was under the impression that teams with at least two women were more effective literally because they break up the atmosphere of competition between an all male team and allow easier cooperation
/r/MensRights16/01/19 08:40 PM
1

Tell that to 26000 rape victims a year.
/r/MensRights16/01/19 11:32 AM
1

What is that last sentence? It's been demonstrated that mixed gender teams are the most effective.
/r/MensRights16/01/19 11:15 AM
1

Alright hoooold up. This is a rampant problem. On this sub. You called out a hypocrisy - a contradiction. Good. Now what? Make the next claim. Which side SHOULD be the way it is? Should we not be held accountable for the actions of a few individuals AND we shouldn't be praised for the actions of a few good men? If you don't clarify, people might assume that you think we collectively deserve praise for the actions of a few. Which is wrong. Maybe it seems obvious to you, and maybe it is, but it is…
/r/MensRights16/01/19 11:09 AM
1

Are you kidding? I fix printers. 9 hours a day. 16 printers a day. This isn't a choice. This is my life. And I'm opting out.
/r/MensRights10/01/19 08:02 PM
1

We can't live without purpose. You and Peterson have given us two options: slave for your family or slave for a lie. That may work for you, which is fine. But when your son puts a bullet in his head, come back, and we'll talk about WHY life is suffering and what we can do about it.
/r/MensRights10/01/19 04:50 PM
1

Oh FUCK your Jordan Peterson shit. I'm dying because I have to work a bullshit job 40 hours a week, and people like you tell me I should be grateful for it. I don't need religion. I need revolution.
/r/MensRights10/01/19 02:15 PM
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If I see another upvoted comment like this, I'm outta here. I only put up with you assholes, because we have a common agenda... And because there's one line you never cross. If this sub is going to decline into blatant sexism though, I'm leaving you to your own toxicity.
/r/MensRights06/08/18 03:05 PM
1

Also, because this Stat is virtually impossible to determine, and you should ALWAYS call bullshit on ANYONE claiming to know this Stat, whether they're saying it's super low OR super high. Most rape cases are settled, so no conclusion is ever found. Very, very few rape cases are "proven false," which is what matters more than just finding a "not guilty" resolution. And of course, many actual victims never bring their case to court.
/r/MensRights05/08/18 04:23 PM
1

This happens all the time. Really don't get the outrage at academia.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 01:49 PM
1

I would accept a men only event of this nature.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 12:10 AM
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I live ON a college, and this is not the case. You must watch a lot of netflix.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 04:19 AM
1

Point out double standards is useless when this sub never explains which way is the correct one. Do people here think women shouldn't be able to gang rape men or that men should be able to gang rape women? You cannot tell.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 02:36 PM
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It's a fake TV judge though. I dunno why this sub is acting like this means anything other than that the show producers think this will get the biggest reaction.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 06:59 PM
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I disagree. The type of feminism you'd consider "man-hating" or extreme is usually second wave, not third. It's subtle.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 06:56 PM
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That's not how it works -_- what do you expect him to admit to it even when he didn't?
/r/MensRights09/06/18 07:20 AM
-3

I love men's rights. But I really hate it when people try to mix in the "white race" issues. Fuck that noise. I face a lot of unique problems as a man. None as a white person.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 11:53 PM
1

That's why you're reading the article. To learn about the controversy. Some people say they should have picked a woman. You wouldn't know that if it weren't for journalism.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 12:50 AM
1

I'm serious though, rewrite the article, or at least the title. You think it can be done better? I don't. The perspective in the title is in quotes, therefore, it's not a subjective statement. It's an objective statement. It's a fact. You want to change a fact. The department insisted it was "committed to diversity and encouraging the broadest range of candidates". It had "actively contacted" 44 women and 43 men to apply for the role. Of those, 19 men and eight women applied and four women and o…
/r/MensRights05/06/18 06:30 PM
1

Right, I mostly agree with you. Every news source has some bias, and I'm sure the BBC is generally left-leaning. But this article? There's not a word in here that is subjective. You'd have to be insane to read this article and come away from it outraged at BBC. I'm not trying to defend BBC. I'm trying to defend objective truth from being stomped on by people who believe in alternative facts and that objective reality isn't real if it isn't published by The Daily Wire or something.
/r/MensRights05/06/18 06:13 PM
1

Kind of an odd thing to say when you're the one telling me this objective journalism is biased.
/r/MensRights05/06/18 03:11 AM
1

You're insane. I did the work for you and you still can't tell me jack shit.
/r/MensRights05/06/18 02:30 AM
1

From my perspective, you could sound more insane. Maybe you're part of the Russian bot net, maybe you're brainwashed by alt-right anti-truth campaigns, maybe you're just a troll. I literally can't comprehend a better explanation for why you'd read this and think it was propaganda. There's nothing there to be propaganda in the first place. I'm sure BBC is left-leaning, but this article is very boring, strict, objective and factual. And that's why I think you are lying and construing truth with wh…
/r/MensRights05/06/18 01:31 AM
1

I would really love to see what you people consider objectively neutral if this isn't it...
/r/MensRights04/06/18 09:23 PM
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I'm sorry? The neutral solution would have been to not report the events at all? Isn't that censorship? I read this article, and the conclusion I come to, the idea formed in my head from the presented facts, is not a liberal idea. Why is it liberal propaganda? The author wrote it to start a conversation about it to spread liberal bias? But the people discussing it is a men's rights group. This just isn't bias, not in content, not in fact, not in effect. The liberal agenda would do better to NOT …
/r/MensRights04/06/18 09:21 PM
1

Why are you all talking like they just picked random feminists out of the crowd to comment on this? The quotes are from relevant people. From both sides. Heck, from my perspective, they're doing the service of exposing the pettiness of the opposers.
/r/MensRights04/06/18 07:42 PM
1

Do I have to extract all the quotes for you instead? The quote support both sides. It's not like the article is portraying it one way or the other. I think it says more about you that you're seeing it written one way or the other
/r/MensRights04/06/18 07:32 PM
1

Oh do NOT try to tell me that's a subjective title. You posted this. You wrote the post title. You presumably read the article. I KNOW you're pushing an agenda. I have no reason to engage with you on this. You aren't just wrong, you're intentionally misrepresenting the truth, and I have absolutely no tolerance for that shit. Piss off.
/r/MensRights04/06/18 07:30 PM
1

Yeah, but they quoted both narratives here. Look, if you still think this article is biased, fine. But I read the article several times. So I know that you're the one pushing an agenda here. You're not gonna convince me otherwise, unless you can find a source that literally says BBC made up one of these quotes. Otherwise, you could not write an article yourself that portrays the facts more neutrally.
/r/MensRights04/06/18 07:17 PM
1

Prof Jonathan Haskel's appointment means there is one woman on the MPC. Of those, 19 men and eight women applied and four women and one man were shortlisted. It also pointed out that two of the three people on the interview panel were women. Prof Haskel, who lectures in economics at Imperial College Business School, will replace Ian McCafferty as one of the four externally appointed members of the MPC for three years from 1 September. His appointment was based on recommendations to the chancello…
/r/MensRights04/06/18 06:08 PM
1

What does that have to do with the BBC?
/r/MensRights04/06/18 05:13 PM
6

This couldn't have been reported in a more objective and unbiased way. It's literally all statements of fact and quotes.
/r/MensRights04/06/18 04:36 PM
1

The Business Committee's Rachel Reeves called it "truly staggering", while Nicky Morgan, from the Treasury Committee, said she was "disappointed". Literally the first paragraph. These two people, not the BBC, are the ones criticizing the decision. But thanks for contributing to the post-truth narrative.
/r/MensRights04/06/18 04:32 PM
1

Obviously.
/r/MensRights03/06/18 12:52 AM
1

This sub is vague as hell sometimes. Good at identifying a hypocrisy, but never clear about which way it should be. Are both students guilty of sexual misconduct, or are neither of them guilty? What are the implications of a ruling in either way?
/r/MensRights02/06/18 07:53 PM
1

If you can find a way to address this "issue" that doesn't backtrack on the real issue, I'll join you.
/r/MensRights30/05/18 10:45 AM
1

I will address it though. False rape accusations are not as big of a problem for men as actually being raped and not finding justice. And steps taken to make it harder for people to come forward is a step in the wrong direction for men's rights, even if that's not the intention. Also, I'd like to remind people that petitions are, themselves, registries. That's sort of their point. You add your name and address to a list of people who want to put people on the sex abuse registry. I'm just saying,…
/r/MensRights30/05/18 10:16 AM
2

Women are sexually assaulted/raped 5x more often then men are. I'm willing to grant you this, but the numbers ARE kind of funny. If we look at rape statistics, and define "rape" as non-consensual sex, then women and men are raped at about the same rate. If you single out violent rape, or if you leave out "forced-to-penetrate" sex (like some studies do), then the numbers change, of course. It's because of this that I consider finding justice for rape victims a bigger men's issue than, say, false …
/r/MensRights27/05/18 12:09 AM
1

I'll reserve judgement until after I've watched it. At least they're not pretending it's about depression or suicide though.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 12:04 AM
1

Yes, exactly, anyone who's done any reading on men's rights should realize this is exactly what men's rights is about. Even the controversial stuff, like Jordan Peterson or the Google Memo. This is the correct response to pay gap rhetoric.
/r/MensRights13/05/18 06:41 PM
2

The thing people never say in these "switch the gender" threads is which way they think it should be. Everyone agrees there's hypocrisy. But should the woman be jailed or should men be allowed to rush volleyball courts?
/r/MensRights09/05/18 01:07 PM
4

ctrl + f "ha ha" ctrl + f "lol" ... I guess I don't see anybody laughing.
/r/MensRights07/05/18 08:34 PM
1

Yes, I DO give EVERYONE a "fair shake." The first thing I thought to do when I read this article title, as an MRA, was look to read the rest of it, because I don't ever jump to conclusions. I'd suggest you practice that, before you go around assuming shit and looking like an asshole.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 12:25 PM
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OP knew what he was doing when he posted an image and not a link.
/r/MensRights02/05/18 03:51 PM
6

That's different. That's just verifying that you're not a bit.
/r/MensRights02/05/18 02:19 AM
10

This is a fraud detection..... Someone logged into your account from another location.
/r/MensRights01/05/18 11:14 PM
5

There can be benefits to having segregated spaces dedicated to certain types of people. Exclusion isn't inherently bad.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 07:18 PM
1

That's not necessarily a problem. That may be indicative of a problem, but it's not, itself, an issue. For example, alimony is this way because the vast majority of bread-winners in families are male, and that's a societal trend that we might want to address as MRAs. That's not a problem with alimony though, just society's expectations of men.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 06:08 PM
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Maybe you should Google it instead of shouting like an asshole. I'm not going to engage with this.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 01:36 PM
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I haven't heard of this before, but admittedly, I wouldn't be surprised. Still, isn't THAT what we should be outraged about then?
/r/MensRights29/04/18 01:35 PM
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What's wrong with this? Or do you all just not understand alimony? This works the other way, too, yknow. You can receive alimony from a girlfriend just like that can receive it from you.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 08:30 AM
2

I prefer the perspective that society "oppresses" everyone in different ways, ways not directly comparable. Is that what you mean?
/r/MensRights28/04/18 10:03 AM
1

Slow down, mom. Can't we just apply this to men's rights? Just as easily?
/r/MensRights28/04/18 04:57 AM
2

Could try /r/askfeminism
/r/MensRights28/04/18 04:55 AM
0

Unless my programming teacher is completely full of bullshit, that just isn't true, because it's been done and demonstrated before. Even then, what's your point? Why are you so bent on making programming a boy's club? I love programming and think everyone should learn it. Did you read the Google Manifesto? He talks about this kind of stuff in there. Diversity is good, you just have to do it right.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 10:33 PM
1

But there's a difference between "make a program that prints out a data set of objects," and "make a database that keeps track of your meals ordered by cost." Maybe "abstract" isn't the exact word I'm looking for, but it's about seeing the real life applications. I can't count how many times I've written useless programs to demonstrate my understanding of data structures without understanding the usefulness for it. It's something that could easily be adjusted.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 10:24 PM
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Because the numbers aren't there. It's a matter of teaching methods. When you adjust for women, the numbers even out. I remember learning that one method involves making programming practical and relevant when teaching it, showing how to solve real life problems. Guy are usually okay with abstract problems, but when you add the extra layer of practicality, the number of women that stick with the program is a lot closer to men. When we complain about men's participation in college, do we point fi…
/r/MensRights27/04/18 01:24 PM
1

I pay close attention to this, and this is the first time I've noticed a post where people are distinctly complaining about women, and not just feminism. I didn't know where to put this observation, so I put it here. It's definitely crossed a line this time.
/r/MensRights26/04/18 05:41 AM
4

Why is this downvoted? I, for one, am for bringing everyone up equally rather than bringing women down to our level. It's hard to take this sub seriously when it's so focused on what's on the other person's plate.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 09:01 PM
1

And many, many more trans women have been raped than anyone anywhere. But like you said, it's not zero sum, so I'm not sure why you keep coming comparing the two.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 06:55 PM
5

Maybe... If you transition. Thus, it would be treated. Unlike my cilantro taste.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 08:16 AM
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Watching you all trip over whether she has female privilege or whether she's really a man would he funny if it weren't so disgusting.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 08:07 AM
5

I can still function in society with cilantro tasting like bugs though.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 08:05 AM
2

I hope you're not insinuating that the average normal gendered male has it worse than trans women. We have it bad, but it's nothing compared to the shit they deal with.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 08:03 AM
3

Thanks so much for bringing some positivity around here. Sorry the comments are hell. You people are the reason I stick around
/r/MensRights18/04/18 06:40 AM
1

This sub is lost. Do we want women in the military or not? I've seen both conclusions presented as if they were obvious here today.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 06:05 AM
2

I mean "progressive" is kind of a loaded term, and maybe I shouldn't have used it. The way I think of it though, it's someone who is sensitive to social dynamics in society. So yeah, I'm an SJW. I'm an SJW MRA. You can apply that line of thinking to men's rights very easily. Just like there are progressive feminists AND traditional feminists (typically first and second wave feminists). What's that mean for men's rights? I recognize the problems we face. The statistics are real. We face discrimin…
/r/MensRights10/04/18 11:41 PM
14

I really appreciate comments like these. There's a lot of outrage here, but when you dig through these threads deep enough, you find thoughtful points that try to address the issues written by smart people like you.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 11:25 PM
5

I agree. I hate fear mongering. But that's like the number one thing they accuse us of...
/r/MensRights10/04/18 11:13 PM
1

Why does that have to do with being liberal? I'm all aboard the MRA train, but still consider myself left-leaning progressive.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 10:11 PM
2

Imagine feeling marginalized compared to something that doesn't even fucking exist.
/r/MensRights09/04/18 06:57 PM
-2

I mean.... I don't have a problem with a women's only debate team. Gendered clubs is a proven way to get women into a subject.
/r/MensRights03/04/18 09:42 PM
1

I still believe men being raped and not finding justice is a bigger problem than men being falsely accused of rape.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 01:30 PM
4

That's what I'm saying. But our top posts aren't memes either. They're all complaining about manspreading and mansplaining.
/r/MensRights25/03/18 09:17 PM
13

If we had more posts like this, they wouldn't say that.
/r/MensRights25/03/18 04:47 PM
1

This title reads like he was fired for being on /r/MGTOW. Good thing I double checked the post.
/r/MensRights25/03/18 04:22 PM
1

My rule is generally to always point the finger at "society." Like you did. It inspires change without telling anyone individually that they are a problem. And the solution is usually education. Edit: but it's possible we already had a very long argument about this, depending which mod you are.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 11:16 PM
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This is... Annoying. Everyone replied to me talking about race. I really didn't care for that. Cool if mass shooters aren't actually majority white, but that's not really the point here.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 09:10 PM
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That said, I don't really see anyone proposing alternatives why the vast majority of shooters are white men. As a white man, I'd really like people to start trying to address the issue.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 02:19 PM
1

Seems like you're flipping the script a bit now. If reproduction is lizard-brain driven, then being the logical gender should help us escape that more, right?
/r/MensRights20/03/18 07:38 PM
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I'm just not interested in repeating myself or engaging in pointless conversations. I've engaged everyone who's addressed me honestly. I don't think it's worth talking to you.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 07:33 PM
1

You're asking some huge questions. I don't know that I agree with the premise that... Well... Removing yourself from the gene pool is illogical. I've encountered that way of thinking recently, that passing on your genes is the only purpose to life, and I'm not sure about it. If you are nihilistic, suicide actually seems like the logical option. But yeah, these are "meaning of life" questions.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 07:20 PM
2

It would be interesting to see how the stats change if serious gun laws were implemented. That's for sure.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 06:41 PM
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Yes, I thought this was widely understood. I don't understand why it is. It's confusing. That's why I'm not taking this one particular issue at face value.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 06:35 PM
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I'm still waiting for someone to convince me this is a men's issue when women attempt suicide more often, without some dumb shit like "They're not really suicidal, they're just looking for attention." I'm gonna keep bringing this up until some can explain why, just because they use different methods, it's not a problem. I don't mean to detract from the discussion at hand though. The fact that most gun deaths are suicide at all is still surprising brings up some interesting questions. Mental heal…
/r/MensRights20/03/18 05:49 PM
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-_- the other top post here today is making fun of women who don't know if they've been sexually assaulted.....
/r/MensRights18/03/18 03:29 PM
12

I 100% disagree, but thanks for clarifying your position. Every time this subject gets brought up, "what would happen if you switched the genders," it's never clear which side people are supposed to find hypocritical.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 02:26 AM
1

For something like The Huffington Post Opinion blogs, I agree.
/r/MensRights16/03/18 01:41 PM
1

I've watched The Red Pill, I've read the Google Manifesto, I've been on this sub for years, and diversity has never been an issue before, not for the MRAs. We aren't against diversity. The Google Manifesto is even pro-diversity. Nor has representation ever been an issue. Besides, if you think I skipped past it, then so did everyone else.
/r/MensRights16/03/18 01:10 PM
1

Even the Google manifesto knew the importance of diversity.
/r/MensRights16/03/18 05:58 AM
1

How do you figure? I'm looking to save it from all the assholes who got every other sub banned. They always come here afterwards, thinking they are welcome and that we are the same. We are not. /r/MensRights is not a hate sub. It doesn't have to be.
/r/MensRights16/03/18 03:27 AM
-4

Yeah, feminism says the same thing.
/r/MensRights15/03/18 05:47 PM
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You seem like someone worth engaging. I didn't personally read this and think 63% was problematic. Also, she didn't seem to infer any explicit bias against male writes, since she mentions her specific goals were racial only. Third, I don't consider representation to be a men's issue. We have a lot of things going on, but this would be the first I've heard of that. But that's pedantics. My REAL issue is that I just scrolled through this ENTIRE thread, and you and I are the only ones even trying t…
/r/MensRights15/03/18 05:36 PM
1

/r/uncensorednews got deleted, so you all came here, didn't you? People like me held the line against /r/incels. I won't be quiet about this. Every movement has a problem with radicals.
/r/MensRights15/03/18 05:08 PM
-28

Fuck you. I've been here long enough to know who the trolls are. This isn't a post about men's rights. Not even close.
/r/MensRights15/03/18 04:58 PM
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This is dumb. I'm here for /r/MensRights, not /r/whiterights. Why is this here?
/r/MensRights15/03/18 04:16 PM
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It does make it wildly inappropriate in a space dedicated to empowering men though. Can't you see the irony of the situation? You're not unintelligent for using a lazy insult. You're unintelligent for putting men down over something they should never be faulted for... in the men's rights sub.
/r/MensRights14/03/18 07:22 PM
0

Well I'd almost prefer it to be used as a lazy insult. That was my point.
/r/MensRights14/03/18 07:20 PM
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I really hate seeing this term used on a men's rights sub... When a woman cheats on her partner with another man, why do we place blame on the partner for being a "cuck?"
/r/MensRights14/03/18 04:40 PM
-28

Hang on... You're afraid of what now? This is some sperm harvesting conspiracy level stuff.
/r/MensRights14/03/18 04:37 PM
1

Hmm. An extended version might be interesting. Seems like the video hits everything important. Kind of scary if there's a lot more.
/r/MensRights11/03/18 08:37 AM
6

There are extended interviews? Interesting...
/r/MensRights11/03/18 05:28 AM
5

This whole thread is insanity, but maybe you, I can approach. The spiel I usually give on "patriarchy" is this: it's not much of a patriarchy if it does nothing to benefit men. The point being that, while men are usually the ones in direct control, the heads of society, we've done very little to directly benefit ourselves. Now, I'm not mad for women making a step up, personally. Good for them. I'm just here because I'd like to see men make that step as well. We have a lot of issues that aren't b…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:26 AM
1

That's a high horse from /r/the_donald. Thanks for giving this sub its good name.
/r/MensRights05/03/18 03:30 PM
1

They did compared to the other options.
/r/MensRights05/03/18 03:25 PM
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Well there's been a lot of talk about men killing men lately, so this is a nice break from the whining and strawmanning. It seems out of place, because we don't get a lot of "this is what we SHOULD be doing" posts here rather than "this is what we SHOULDN'T be doing." ("we" as a society)
/r/MensRights26/02/18 01:12 PM
1

Well now we're at an impasse, cause I'd rather not hear about any of it.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 02:32 AM
2

This proves shit about anything other than the modeling industry.
/r/MensRights08/02/18 07:01 PM
-1

You have to dig very deep here to find nuanced discussions.
/r/MensRights01/02/18 11:22 AM
1

This is a great example of second-wave feminism compared to third-wave feminism. Learning the difference was one of the best decisions of my life. If anyone is curious, this is the source I usually reference for finding the distinction: https://www.pacificu.edu/about/media/four-waves-feminism
/r/MensRights01/02/18 11:20 AM
2

I have no source for this, but I remember seeing a similar post where someone pointed out that protests like this are actually asked to leave their trash in the street. The context may have been something different, a parade or something, but I'm just sayin... I guess cities usually ask for that to make clean up easier or something. Edit: So I guess some people already mentioned this, but got downvoted a ton for it... Ah well...
/r/MensRights23/01/18 08:45 AM
1

This is what is called a "straw man," because you've described the argument of a completely imaginary "they" in order to make the opposition argument seem ridiculous.
/r/MensRights09/01/18 03:50 AM
1

Yeah, do YOU see it? This sub is huge because of anecdotes. You think if we just calmly discussed things in a purely logical and fact-based way that this sub would be this huge? This shit works. I wouldn't have brought it up that this was anecdotal if someone in front of me wasn't already discussing the legitimacy of the study.
/r/MensRights13/12/17 06:18 PM
2

Anecdotes aren't completely useless. They tell a story that help people empathize with another person's situation. You're right, that wasn't a study either. I think it has at least been replicated a few times though.
/r/MensRights12/12/17 08:55 PM
13

I doesn't really matter. One study in one area with only two different people barely constitutes a research study in the first place. As with everything else on this sub, it's pretty much anecdotal. I also don't doubt that this happens, but this shouldn't be considered evidence.
/r/MensRights12/12/17 05:16 PM
2

He also forcibly kissed her.
/r/MensRights07/12/17 03:39 PM
1

I would rather argue that we are not guilting women at all than "we are, but THEY STARTED IT!"
/r/MensRights06/12/17 08:16 PM
1

This actually reminds me of how feminism often says "the patriarchy hurts men too." The perspective here is half "lol at you guys pretending you care about men for 5 minutes" and half "if it hurts men, then it's not patriarchy."
/r/MensRights04/12/17 09:39 AM
4

We're complaining that this happens to guys, not that we can't do this to girls.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 01:16 PM
1

Because if you've ever been cheated on in a serious relationship before, it IS the same. "Would you like your emotional abuse now or later?" It ends the same either way. Just a matter of how much torment and fighting you do until you get there. You're either a cuck or you're an immature cuck.
/r/MensRights25/11/17 03:23 AM
1

What'd you do?
/r/MensRights25/11/17 12:28 AM
1

No, fuck you man. Have you ever even been in a situation like that?
/r/MensRights24/11/17 11:42 PM
1

Yes, it's certainly not her fault for cheating.
/r/MensRights24/11/17 03:40 PM
0

I don't think these pedantics change the point about how it shames the guy for something that's ultimately not his fault.
/r/MensRights23/11/17 06:58 PM
16

Where I'm from, "tool" works way better, and you don't sound like an incel while saying it.
/r/MensRights23/11/17 03:36 PM
21

Why would we use a word that needlessly blames men for having women cheat on them on a sub for men's rights? That sounds like the ultimate hypocrisy. And if you think I'm trying to be the speech police, PM me. I've some choice words to prove you wrong.
/r/MensRights23/11/17 02:58 PM
7

By that rule, what is real men's activism?
/r/MensRights21/11/17 02:25 PM
3

I think we get plenty of outrage posts on this sub as it is
/r/MensRights21/11/17 02:24 PM
1

I don't think you can compare the two issues. Even in general, men's issues are usually very severe, but uncommon, while women's issues are small, social ones that are completely saturated throughout society.
/r/MensRights21/11/17 02:22 PM
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I guess I'd better get the source for that, if possible. Thanks for clarifying, because the sources I had on this were not specific about that.
/r/MensRights25/10/17 11:41 PM
12

This still isn't rigorous enough. I'm an MRA, but I'm trying to be intellectually honest and I've been tripped up by these things in my discussions with other people. Men disposability is the best response to these facts. But the best response to the issue of male disposability is the facts. In my experience with real life discourse, this isn't enough of a debate. Not enough to satisfy me. It just shows that men have a problem as much as they are the problem. The other thing I've been called out…
/r/MensRights25/10/17 11:06 PM
0

You know what? You're not the first person to tell me that. So let me take this opportunity to ask you a question. I've been on this sub for months. I'm the biggest MRA I know. How much more time do I have to spend on this sub in order to complain about stuff half as petty as the rest of you?
/r/MensRights25/10/17 10:38 PM
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OUTRAGE is cancer. Feminism is part of outrage. There can be good feminism- when it's not outrage. This sub? This sub is outrage too. It's all the same cancerous outrage bullshit.
/r/MensRights25/10/17 04:06 AM
0

I'm not claiming that, but if you can find anything like that, it might be good for the record.
/r/MensRights25/10/17 04:05 AM
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How can you say that after making this petty-as-fuck shitpost? You're mad. You're just mad. There's no honesty nor facts here.
/r/MensRights24/10/17 02:23 PM
1

Do you not agree that we have a lot of women-haters here? I'm sorry, I assumed most people generally agreed with that statement. All of our allies point to this sub as an example of the movement being taken over by deliberately toxic people, or being a stepping stone into those harsher communities. Most people, good people, toss us in with /r/incels, /r/conspiracytheories, /r/MGTOW, and other openly hateful communities. I can't think of a way to prove this that wouldn't simply be anecdotal thoug…
/r/MensRights24/09/17 09:13 PM
1

I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you meant by Well why don't you go and ask feminists to demand that from women and stop blaming men for women's choices? But that reads to me like an accusation. If that's not, then I may have overreacted, but the fact is that we have a lot of women-haters here. Now how can you say I undermined my point when you don't know what my point is? I made my case, and you didn't read it. Let's try an experiment. You don't have to read my post. Instead, tell back to me w…
/r/MensRights24/09/17 07:11 PM
1

I kept reading after you called me a man-hater. You won't give me the same courtesy? Especially since I specifically said "I'll assume you aren't just a woman-hater." And even more so, since my point is why need to avoid this BS.
/r/MensRights24/09/17 06:36 PM
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This is the number one issue in all of mens rights that I have identified. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, that you are not just a woman hater and are competent. I intentionally started off trying to explain that "personal choice" has no place in this discussion. There is no such thing. When we talk generally on a broad scale, people will always act and react, make decisions, based on their circumstances. The circumstances we have are social pressure. Society causes predictable outcomes.…
/r/MensRights24/09/17 05:39 PM
1

The lesson is obviously balance. The story of the bum is as common as the story of the workaholic. This is the problem though. Society needs to change, because every time you and the wife's friends point out this thing every man is painfully aware of already, they perpetuate the issue. They drive more men to the other side.
/r/MensRights24/09/17 05:09 PM
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Let me help you all out here. Yeah, this isn't news. This is old. The question is whether society pressures women to make choices that put them in lower income positions. "Personal choice" is not a thing here. There's no, "then they can choose to make a different choice!" option here. When we talk about general trends and large groups, circumstances always rule over individual decisions, period. This is what feminism has always been about. They battle the wage gap at the root, with the early chi…
/r/MensRights23/09/17 07:07 PM
1

Go away.
/r/MensRights23/09/17 05:51 AM
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Why are you downvoted? "doxxing" is like the reddit n-word or something. Literally everyone else in the thread is calling for "release her nam/picture!" But you say "doxx her" and here you are. Weird.
/r/MensRights22/09/17 06:03 PM
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Yes, but... Lightly. It is 90% of this sub, and a huge part of the movement, but I always point to men's liberation as a pro feminist movement, and about half the time I come here, I say something about how this sub still has good people on it and isn't completely lost. I can see their perspective, but there are exceptions that I always represent.
/r/MensRights21/09/17 11:15 PM
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Are we to assume this happened because these women hate men or something? Otherwise, I don't much see the point.
/r/MensRights21/09/17 08:20 PM
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It's not too late. Stick around and you will find a small handful of good people here. I'd have left long ago, but we come out when it's most important. I don't believe this sub is completely lost yet.
/r/MensRights21/09/17 08:20 PM
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The mods are usually pretty good on here, so I'm assuming you're just doing your best to defend a post like this, but it might be better to just leave it. This sub revolves around anecdotal evidence, which is useless in any argument.
/r/MensRights21/09/17 08:15 PM
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I am not satisfied with that explanation as it doesn't explain why men don't "cry for help." If that's good enough for you, fine, but I require more solid evidence than this speculation. Until then, I don't think I can treat suicide as a "men's issue." I'll be leaving it out of mens rights discussions and talking about homicide instead. I think that's the intellectually responsible thing to do.
/r/MensRights20/09/17 09:43 PM
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I don't know why, and you don't know why either. I think the other guy's explanation revolved more around the idea that women are just crying for help.
/r/MensRights19/09/17 09:27 PM
1

You're both picking and choosing, and neither of you sufficiently explain why men attempt less than women. Even if they're not "really" attempting, and it's just a cry for help, that doesn't explain why men aren't also crying for help. I just don't think the number add up that way, not in a way where we can say, "look, this is a male problem, not just a problem for everyone." Not without being disingenuous to some degree.
/r/MensRights19/09/17 09:13 PM
1

If that's true, I'd be satisfied with that then.
/r/MensRights19/09/17 05:20 PM
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I don't feel this explains why women attempt more often than men, not to my satisfaction. It's one of those statistics I find hard to talk about because of this paradox. Nobody seems to represent it honestly.
/r/MensRights19/09/17 08:01 AM
1

Interesting question. I suppose they aren't then, like everything else.
/r/MensRights13/09/17 07:52 AM
1

Well that was rude.
/r/MensRights12/09/17 02:17 PM
1

The most compelling argument I've seen so far is when you said the rest of the gym is really busy. That changes the context for me. I think that's important.
/r/MensRights12/09/17 02:15 PM
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I disagree. If you think social conditioning issues are personal problems, then you misunderstand the issue. By extension of that, you misunderstand men's issues. Go back and watch The Red Pill and all that stuff to catch up.
/r/MensRights12/09/17 02:13 PM
1

Nah. I've done yoga. They're great people, and I'm definitely not attractive.
/r/MensRights12/09/17 02:06 PM
1

You're on MensRights. People here downvoting you are the opposite of what you call "snowflakes." Nice pigman picture though.
/r/MensRights12/09/17 02:03 PM
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I don't think the movements have to be adversarial. They both have legitimate concerns. People need to break echo chambers. That's usually the first thing I try to explain to someone breaking their echo chamber and entering this one. The terms "patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity" aren't very well appreciated. The problem isn't necessarily what the terms represent. It's just the nature of the word seems to target men as the cause of the issue. Feminism does well when it tries to change "society" …
/r/MensRights09/09/17 03:14 PM
1

That doesn't change the facts though. Me doing literally nothing but pointing out that mental illness is real is still one step further than pretending they're just being lazy or something. Yeah, the only way to help may be professional care and medication.
/r/MensRights09/09/17 03:10 PM
1

Huh. That's an interesting point. It'd be interesting to see data adjusted for this.
/r/MensRights09/09/17 03:01 PM
1

Sure. I'll play the "but muh mental illness" card. Pre-baiting that response doesn't make it wrong. It's a real thing.
/r/MensRights09/09/17 03:00 PM
1

We have a different idea of what "patriarchy" means here. So you might have to be more specific and elaborate. Preferably, just don't use the word at all.
/r/MensRights09/09/17 02:57 PM
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Are you seriously implying that no adult, who theoretically should have taken and passed junior high school physics, is too stupid to understand a simple explanation involving amperage and voltage? You don't think people like that exist? If a person just wants food and doesn't care about how the food gets cooked, you can say, "don't use open flames in a closed room, because they can cause you to suffocate." No explanation of how combustion works necessary. I've been told not to drink natural wat…
/r/MensRights08/09/17 01:25 AM
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instead of backtracking But she absolutely did backtrack. She's not arguing with this guy about whether the 9V method works. Hence, she's not arguing at all. Hence, she's not using "mansplaining" do deflect an argument. She's not feeling defeated. She's feeling frustrated with the fact that the guy went off about random baloney when she needed something useful. She DID overreact. But to come here and claim this as an example of feminists using "mansplaining" to deal with being publicly proven wr…
/r/MensRights08/09/17 01:10 AM
1

Then read it to me, genius. She asked how to charge a phone without access to a charge pack or conventional wall sockets. What's the answer, buddy? You read it, didn't you?
/r/MensRights08/09/17 01:07 AM
1

Sure. I'm not saying the guy did anything objectively wrong. We have to look at things from the individual subjective perspective though before we label things as deflective behavior.
/r/MensRights08/09/17 01:04 AM
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This is most likely the case. It's important to see everyone's perspective in this. I'm definitely not saying the guy did anything wrong besides possibly over explaining something, probably something he is particularly passionate about.
/r/MensRights08/09/17 01:02 AM
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Thanks for explaining the important part of this whole discussion. I've been arguing with a lot of people about what was said, what was exaggerated, but this is why it's bad that this is happening. This is what's important. I knew I'd get downvoted to hell when I started this. But I was pretty confident that a few people like you and /u/SugarFreeBrowny would still show up. This sub isn't completely incompetent. That's why I bit the bullet. I am always trying to hold this sub to a higher standard…
/r/MensRights08/09/17 01:00 AM
0

I agree. I think she also agrees. After saying that, there was no need to say anything more. There was especially no need to explain why a larger charge pack would be more effective than a smaller one.
/r/MensRights08/09/17 12:54 AM
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I don't argue about definitions. Regardless of what word we use to describe it, his explanation was way more technical and involved than the context called for. The context was helping someone charge a phone without access to conventional methods. One does not need to know specific amperage or voltage levels to be able to do this. I don't argue about definitions, because they are relative (see logical fallacy of definitions). However, the definition of "jargon" is, itself, relative to context. T…
/r/MensRights08/09/17 12:48 AM
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"jargon" is a relative term. In the context of telling someone a method to charge phones, they won't know nor care to know about amperage.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 09:05 PM
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Fair enough. But she didn't take issue with that. It was after she asked what to do if shipping isn't available.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:25 PM
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What's the opposite of sugar coating? Whatever that is is what this sub has done here. I'm not sugar coating. I'm removing the extra anti-sugar that was added. I'm trying to paint her in exactly the same light that she stands in. The correction I'm making is that she isn't using "mansplaining" to deflect an argument, because this wasn't an argument. Now people are accusing me of sugar coating her as a way to deflect my argument.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:24 PM
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I agree. I think it was a mistake and she overreacted to it. My point is only that this was not an argument, so her jump to mansplaining can't be a deflection.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:20 PM
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Sure. Her: If you need to charge your phone, do this! Him: don't do that. It doesn't work. Her: Well what can I do instead? People don't have access to regular charge packs. Him: charge packs work because the amperage-blah blah jargon jargon Her: MANSPLAINING! (read as: I don't need a complicated essay explaining why. I need something that will be useful.) It's not an argument. But, yknow, you could just read the actual post to see this. /u/FuzzGod666 an hour ago - That's not how it should be re…
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:17 PM
4

That could very well be the case. I agree. Fuck Twitter.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:09 PM
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There is a comment prior to the "mansplaining" comment. Does nobody see this? Are you all just not expanding the image?
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:09 PM
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Sure. Step back and look at everyone jumping down my throat for correcting that there isn't an argument here at all. You're gonna tell me everyone here is taking "being corrected by someone" better than she did?
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:08 PM
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You're right dude. You got me. Her jumping to sexist rhetoric was just a way to deflect the fact that she was wrong in her argument that the 9V method works. He was just trying to give a helpful alternative solution. If that's true, then I'm completely wrong. All you have to do is open up the conversation (since you seem to have missed it, here it is again for you.) Find where the man says gives an alternate explanation or where the woman defends the position that the 9V method works. Copy that …
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:04 PM
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No I don't. She conceded that argument.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 06:35 PM
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After "and if you can't ship in a hurricane?" Yes. He should not have said anything. The terrible advice was already addressed. Unless he had something helpful to contribute, further explaining why a larger charge pack is effective doesn't even make sense and is certainly not helpful. She isn't arguing with him.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 06:34 PM
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What was the helpful solution? I must have missed that part.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 06:16 PM
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Sure. As far as I'm concerned, this is the same thing. They aren't arguing about whether a 9v batter can charge a phone. Not the most graceful way to say, "you're right," but at least she did. She's not using it to get defensive about losing an argument.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 06:15 PM
3

You are when you're saying that her argument is wrong, because that's what her argument was.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 06:10 PM
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She's not wrong though. There ARE people I'm the hurricane area that don't have access to power or charge packs.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 06:08 PM
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Her: If you need to charge your phone, do this! Him: don't do that. It doesn't work. Her: Well what can I do instead? People don't have access to regular charge packs. Him: charge packs work because the amperage-blah blah jargon jargon Her: MANSPLAINING! (read as: I don't need a complicated essay explaining why. I need something that will be useful.) It's not an argument. But, yknow, you could just read the actual post to see this.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 06:01 PM
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He didn't help though. She asked how to charge a phone without a battery pack, and he gave a lecture on batteries. Nothing useful. Shitty to call mansplaining, but equally shitty to call it getting defensive over a lost argument. It's neither.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 05:53 PM
8

I have an almost exact same story, except instead of rape, I was accused of pedophilia for being into an 11 year old at the same age. I'm 23 now. It sucked back then, but it's loooong past. This is an unpopular opinion, but I don't think most people really understand this situation.
/r/MensRights05/09/17 11:29 AM
1

The irony of this comment.... I'm currently getting torn apart on TheBluePill for not being a real feminist, meanwhile, MensRights drills me a new one every day for being too feminist. It just always feels like everyone else is in the echo chamber except me. That feels too vane and self-centered to say out loud, but it's the best explanation of I have for the reason this always happens. I agree with you completely. I enjoy breaking my echo chambers. I'm just currently really frustrated with how …
/r/MensRights04/09/17 05:09 AM
1

Why is the only quality comment on this thread downvoted so much?
/r/MensRights30/08/17 10:10 AM
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Don't downvote me without downvoting the other guy. I was just following suit.
/r/MensRights30/08/17 07:09 AM
-1

I don't. I thought that other asshole might.
/r/MensRights30/08/17 02:28 AM
1

I was just trying to serve him some of his own dick shaming. I don't actually care at all. I'm asexual. I care about dead babies, not dicks.
/r/MensRights30/08/17 02:10 AM
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No, I'm just trying to dick shame a dick shamer. If I'm a "rape victim," then what kind of asshole are you to go around shaming rape victims? Fuck off. This isn't helpful.
/r/MensRights30/08/17 02:08 AM
9

Jesus christ, this thread is a shit show.
/r/MensRights30/08/17 01:42 AM
1

Because women think it looks better and it's cleaner and still large.
/r/MensRights30/08/17 01:36 AM
1

Sounds like fun, but I'm not honestly sure what our community here wants. Do people here honestly want programs to hire more male teachers? When we were circle jerking about that lady who fired all her affirmative action women because they weren't able to work, I asked about an alternative. People seemed to agree that "affirmative action" works better in training and education spaces, rather than just dropping it in at the end of the line, when actually being hired. So for this case, do we want …
/r/MensRights29/08/17 03:31 AM
1

Weren't we just complaining about affirmative action in STEM? I don't really care what it is, just can we have a clear stance on the issue?
/r/MensRights28/08/17 07:48 PM
0

Would whoever is downvoting you like to speak up if they disagree? Cause this is the best thing I've gotten so far.
/r/MensRights28/08/17 03:38 PM
2

Oh really? I'd swear I've had whole discussions about it in here before. I appreciate the whole no-censorship thing, which is why I thought this rule was strange, but that makes sense. This sub has surprisingly great mods.
/r/MensRights28/08/17 11:45 AM
0

This is new
/r/MensRights28/08/17 11:22 AM
4

Hey, you must be new to the scene. You're not wrong, but maybe I can help explain things from our perspective more. First of all, you should know that this sub doesn't really complain a whole lot about "not being allowed to have emotions or be weak." In fact, just below your comment, some asshole who hasn't learned how to reddit yet is telling /u/audible_dog_fart that he's a pussy for hiding behind the anonymous internet and not traveling across the world to say shit to his face like it's still …
/r/MensRights28/08/17 11:22 AM
1

Hey, you must be new to the scene. You're not wrong, but maybe I can help explain things from our perspective more. First of all, you should know that this sub doesn't really complain a whole lot about "not being allowed to have emotions or be weak." In fact, just below your comment, some asshole who hasn't learned how to reddit yet is telling /u/audible_dog_fart that he's a pussy for hiding behind the anonymous internet and not traveling across the world to say shit to his face like it's still …
/r/MensRights28/08/17 11:15 AM
1

You do? Cause I have no clue what this post is trying to say.
/r/MensRights28/08/17 11:01 AM
1

There's enough people like you sticking around, being smart, caring about the issues, that it keeps me from leaving. Sometimes I really want, but I feel like we have enough of us to be change things for the better.
/r/MensRights28/08/17 11:00 AM
3

That guy is probably a feminist.
/r/MensRights28/08/17 10:58 AM
3

So affirmative action should be used in training and education rather than the end work place. Isn't that the logical conclusion?
/r/MensRights28/08/17 02:30 AM
1

Last time this was posted, I pointed out that it's "ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls."
/r/MensRights26/08/17 09:39 PM
1

Fact-based logic? Yes. Why aren't you?
/r/MensRights26/08/17 08:48 PM
1

Are you also the kind of person who says men can't be raped because they wouldn't get a boner, or do you just not know how penises work? You're gonna be complaining about feelings still when this sub gets banned, are ya? Where do you people get so disconnected from reality?
/r/MensRights26/08/17 04:42 PM
1

Thanks for the effort to make it less biased. I love how much the MRA has broken through my echo chambers, but I hate how much it's still an echo chamber itself sometimes. I'd like to see /r/askfeminism about this or something, but unfortunately I'm banned. I don't usually like it when we talk about our issues in an adversarial way, men versus women, but this table seems very fair to me.
/r/MensRights26/08/17 01:12 PM
0

What the fuck? Yeah, i think you might have the brain of a lizard. If science (not feelings) tells us that you indeed have the brain of a lizard, then yes. You are absolutely a lizard in the body of a person. That's the facts. If the only way to keep you from killing yourself is to surgically attach a tail to your rear, then that is the only ethical option and the medically recognized treatment for your condition. What part of that is controversial? What part of that argument is even based on em…
/r/MensRights26/08/17 02:28 AM
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But you're completely wrong. The brain science about this is not extensive and heavily influenced by political groups, but all results point to that either trans people's brains match brains of the gender they identify as (a small study of like only 24 samples), or that there aren't any major differences between male and female brains (popular with feminists who don't like admitting there are biological differences). Saying trans men have male brains though that's completely unfounded. They defi…
/r/MensRights26/08/17 12:58 AM
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Yeah, it's a mental illness, but if you're suggesting we don't treat it that way, we ignore feelings, we treat boys with girl brains as boys, then you damn a lot of people to a torturous existence and force a lot of people to commit suicide instead. It's not that one is wrong, its that they don't match, and there's only one that we can switch. At no point have I made any appeal to emotion here. That's what I said from the start. Trans issues are completely logical and rational. You want people t…
/r/MensRights25/08/17 11:45 PM
1

Ohhh I see. Yeah that's a pretty good point.
/r/MensRights25/08/17 11:40 PM
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I don't know much about multiple personalities, and I don't know why people like you like to do the slippery slope thing so much. I think your probably still don't understand what transgender means. When someone is trans, they experience something called "gender dysphoria." It's a mental thing. It's like a severe depression, but tied to the fact that they don't feel their gender matches correctly. That's what the guy in this study would've had, artificially, from being forced to transition. You …
/r/MensRights25/08/17 11:32 PM
1

I'm confused what you mean by "double blind?" How would you have done the experiment differently? This one case is, of course, only one case, but I wasn't the one who brought it up. The twins thing is interesting, but they would've also been raised very similar with very similar experiences, so I'm not sure.
/r/MensRights25/08/17 11:24 PM
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This is exactly what I am talking about. I know trans issues are kind of weird and hard to understand, but it's actually very rational and logical. David Peter Reimer (August 22, 1965 – May 4, 2004) was a Canadian man assigned male at birth but reassigned as a girl and raised female following medical advice and intervention after his penis was accidentally destroyed during a botched circumcision in infancy. Psychologist John Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as successful and …
/r/MensRights25/08/17 03:35 PM
1

Not sarcasm. Well I'm talking about not assuming fat people don't get raped, cause that's messed up.
/r/MensRights25/08/17 01:10 PM
1

Love your user name, but what the fuck are you talking about?
/r/MensRights25/08/17 12:16 PM
1

Oh, guess I misunderstood what he meant by "that beast" and "who would want to?" You're right. I misspoke. Should I delete my comment and repost it to someone else in the thread who did say the word "fat?" Do you think this was the first thread about this that I found where people were claiming no one would ever want to rape someone that big? If nobody here is saying that, then good. What are we getting defensive about?
/r/MensRights25/08/17 09:19 AM
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I don't care if you want to do that thing reddit does where everyone's like "not enough, she should be hanged from the gallows." Whatever. But don't do this. Don't do the whole fat shaming thing. Don't do that. It's bullshit. It's low. And if nothing else, it's the excuse everyone else is looking for to ban the sub. You know how reddit is about fat shaming. Don't do it.
/r/MensRights24/08/17 11:59 PM
2

Also, the men didn't die at 80. This isn't a longevity thing.
/r/MensRights23/08/17 05:22 AM
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No, I don't hate menslib, but they're pro-feminist. That much is clear. I think it's dumb to base our movement on feminism in any way at all. They don't have to be related.
/r/MensRights19/08/17 10:40 PM
3

Is there a men's rights sub that is feminism-agnostic?
/r/MensRights19/08/17 10:13 PM
1

Yeah, i agree, and I'm somewhat interested in "de-googling" my devices. Unfortunately, most people are far too ready to sell themselves off already. Morality is subjective, I guess.
/r/MensRights15/08/17 08:55 PM
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Yeah, by not doing anything bad.
/r/MensRights14/08/17 06:47 PM
4

What false premises? There were some, but I don't think they were as bad as people say.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 09:44 PM
8

How is this more legitimate than people baiting our "fragile masculinity?"
/r/MensRights09/08/17 04:35 PM
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This sub does NOT point out gender issues. Are you kidding me? We never talk about men's rights here. Never! I'm sick of it. It's always "women" this, and "feminism" that. Men are screwed.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 04:34 PM
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Well, he got fired because Google is in a diversity lawsuit right now and this whole thing blowing up probably isn't helping no matter what you think of it.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 04:32 PM
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That's the problem with this movement. The issues are real. Men die, are raped, lose custody, and get sent to jail at alarming rates. But alarming rates for those things is still pretty low. Most of us have never personally been affected by these things. So we end up with backwards shit like this, because getting rejected in high school IS something people have experienced. Priorities...
/r/MensRights09/08/17 04:28 PM
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Huh? I did, and I thought it was pretty on-point and blown out of proportion. This post says worse things about women than that memo ever did. Maybe I'll have to read it again though. I didn't finish it, admittedly.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 04:24 PM
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In other news: the MRAs spent the day trash talking women. Come on, guys. Seriously?
/r/MensRights09/08/17 04:22 PM
1

Read the memo.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 07:22 PM
1

My personal beef is with privacy issues, but you're right. Google is usually the good guy and deserves credit for that.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 07:15 PM
1

I suggest people take a look through the actual memo that was sent around. Was this firing justified? Weeelll Google is actually in a discrimination lawsuit right now, so I'm not sure they had a choice. It is unfortunate that this couldn't be handled more maturely. The memo claims that women aren't prevalent in tech because of biological differences. Be warned before saying things like this. We don't claim black people aren't in as many tech fields because of biological differences. We definitel…
/r/MensRights08/08/17 11:00 AM
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Google is in a discrimination lawsuit right now. I'm not sure they had a choice in this matter.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 10:56 AM
1

I suggest people take a look through [the actual memo that was sent around(http://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320/amp). Was this firing justified? Weeelll Google is actually in a discrimination lawsuit right now, so I'm not sure they had a choice. It is unfortunate that this couldn't be handled more maturely. The memo claims that women aren't prevalent in tech because of biological differences. Be warned before saying things like this. We don't claim…
/r/MensRights08/08/17 10:54 AM
1

Oh. Well if they edited it out, then I think it's inconsequential.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 04:11 AM
2

You bring up an interesting point. Maybe declining to hire women is a different issue?
/r/MensRights08/08/17 04:00 AM
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Negatory. Not a barber shop. It does specialize in men's cuts, but technically they're still just regular hair dressers. Not only can women come in, they can get a haircut. I think this barber shop is alright. They're trans-friendly, and I think that shows something. The playboy picture is a bit weird though, you're right
/r/MensRights08/08/17 03:57 AM
1

Actually, they claim to be open to trans men, so this is not about genitals. It is about beards. I don't see why beard trimming specialists should have to let women in.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 03:54 AM
1

This is not that kind of sub.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 03:51 AM
1

The barber IS forward-thinking. If anyone here is complaining about women-only spaces, then they don't understand the issue. I haven't really seen much of that in particular here, but I'll call it out if I see it.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 03:50 AM
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I'm kind of curious what this sub generally thinks of that. Personally, I'm glad that this article pointed out that the barber shop accepts trans men. That's important and shows they're absolutely not just being close-minded.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 03:45 AM
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Where is this quote coming from? It's not in the article. I ctrl + f'd it. It makes no sense without context.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 03:42 AM
1

What are you quoting? This isn't in the article.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 03:39 AM
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Oh wow. It sounds like you really know what you're talking about. Thanks for explaining it so thoroughly. I definitely want to read into that study later and see how they address it
/r/MensRights07/08/17 02:31 AM
1

Then... We agree? I think?
/r/MensRights06/08/17 02:58 PM
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I don't understand that difference. Unless you mistyped a percentage sign earlier. I mean, yes. It is ridiculous to assume men would lie at the same rate. That's my point. That means they're raped more than women. That's the alternative.
/r/MensRights06/08/17 02:43 PM
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I don't even know what you're talking about or how this is relevant at all...
/r/MensRights06/08/17 01:30 PM
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No, that's the whole point of this discussion. He's saying that this 50% is accounting for all those cases where a rape just wasn't convicted. This is literally saying rape victims admitted half the time that they fabricated it completely. That's why he emphasized that the study was not done by analyzing police reports. That's literally the point of the conversation. If THAT'S true, AND we assume the most popular studies say that men are raped roughly the same amount as women (including force to…
/r/MensRights06/08/17 01:27 PM
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If thats true, that would mean that men are also raped massive amounts more than women.
/r/MensRights06/08/17 12:23 PM
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You're saying that up to half of all rape victims willingly admitted to completely fabricating it?
/r/MensRights06/08/17 11:51 AM
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It doesn't really matter. Both numbers are pulled out of asses.
/r/MensRights06/08/17 11:47 AM
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Yeah, unfortunately this one is tougher than people would like it to be. Either way, I think the more relevant statistic is how many rapes go without justice. Super relevant to men's rights still.
/r/MensRights06/08/17 11:46 AM
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What comment? Who's laughing? This small group? What about everyone else out there laughing at us? You know what they say about us? Do you know what they call us? You think I'm gonna be bothered by you not taking me seriously? You don't take anything seriously.
/r/MensRights06/08/17 11:44 AM
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What? But what I mean by that is that you do focus on my "special snowflake issue of the day." The whole point of this sub is for men's rights. A HUGE part of that involves rape victims who aren't taken seriously. How can you talk about this one day, and then dismiss a bunch of rape victims the next day?
/r/MensRights06/08/17 11:41 AM
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Is there something that actually addresses the issue here? I don't really want to read all the way through all of these for something. It would be easier to just "source-bomb" you back. But the point is that, in order for the statistic to be relevant, we have to consider what the truth is in cases that don't end in a verdict. We have to consider rape cases where the perpetrator is someone different from the accused (the cases when DNA evidence match someone else). The cases where the accused is …
/r/MensRights06/08/17 12:03 AM
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I can't find anything that says that, in that article or anywhere else. There's an important distinction to be made when throwing these numbers around. A false allegation doesn't necessarily mean the allegation was proven false. Most rape cases end in plea bargains, which are inconclusive. That's why you cant throw number around. That's where the 2% comes from, proven false cases. That's where people are getting 20 and 30% too, cases where the allegation was not proven true. Anyway, I was just w…
/r/MensRights05/08/17 10:34 PM
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Jesus christ. How can a group complain about rapists walking free every day be so apologetic to this. I draw the line here. You are all assholes who clearly don't give a fuck about the issues. You're part of the problem. Take things fucking serious for once in your life.
/r/MensRights05/08/17 09:49 PM
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I definitely don't. It's just a rumor I heard. Thanks.
/r/MensRights05/08/17 03:03 PM
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What about, say, age or class?
/r/MensRights05/08/17 02:26 PM
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This is definitely not the most important issue right now... That said, does anyone know if I can report airlines and Amazon for hate crimes? I hear they change their prices according to the customer as well.
/r/MensRights05/08/17 01:08 PM
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Okay, well that's when I played it, 2013. I guess Robin Williams' death wasn't as recent as I remember. So she re-released the game for that?
/r/MensRights03/08/17 08:26 PM
1

Shit is it today? Thought it was like in November or something.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 07:59 PM
1

I literally played the game myself years before Robin Williams died.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 07:42 PM
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Who's suicide? The actor? No, Robin Williams died like a few years after all the drama. I've never heard of the rest of those issues either. I mean, she abused her boyfriend by cheating on him. That was pretty much the end of the story though.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 12:45 PM
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I actually became a feminist for a long time thanks to Anita Sarkeesian. Her channel really clicked with me. Weird how people change so much. That was only like five years ago.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 08:06 AM
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Negatory. The criticism was about her cheating on her boyfriend, not the game.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 08:04 AM
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I'm an MRA who actually knows about the issues. Who are you?
/r/MensRights03/08/17 03:35 AM
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Yeah, i can. Did you watch The Red Pill? Men have some serious issues, but they're extreme and narrow. Most people here have not personally been affected. We just have a way higher chance to die, lose custody, or not get justice for rape. Point is, they're not personally getting screwed. The fight is just, but the outrage isn't.
/r/MensRights02/08/17 10:56 PM
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That describes so much of this sub
/r/MensRights02/08/17 08:07 PM
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Why is every dissenter portrayed as a man-hating feminist here? Can't we have a discussion without losing our minds?
/r/MensRights02/08/17 07:00 PM
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Right? Probably at least half of them sub to /r/pussypassdenied
/r/MensRights02/08/17 06:59 PM
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Well yeah, that's what I believe. I don't know how qualified I am to tell you about life. I'm ten years younger. I know that any time I've had a significant girl enter my life, it was when I least expected it, wasn't obsessing over it, and just living my life. I know my life has changed in ways I couldn't have imagined even a year or two ago. You really never know what's around the corner if you keep a good attitude and an open mind. And definitely our minds over exaggerate things. We're adapted…
/r/ExRedPill31/07/17 12:30 PM
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No, you're only 34. Everyone has their own pace, and good things come to those who wait. Things are never as bad as they seem. You'll see.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/17 12:12 PM
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I don't need an excuse! I'm proud to be male!
/r/MensRights31/07/17 02:26 AM
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They did though. Wonder Woman just came out. WWI. Female director. Well received.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 02:25 AM
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He IS a wounded puppy. A baby doggo came up to you, bleeding from its leg, and you told it to go fuck itself. I definitely don't think Men's Rights is all whining. /r/MensRights certainly is though. We could be having an intelligent discussion about how a victim is feeling like this is somehow deserved. We could be discussing, kindly, which of his notions are wrong and how he got them. We could be helping the ~5 other guys exactly like him that came to this thread and turned tail right away. I'm…
/r/MensRights30/07/17 07:37 AM
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Exactly!
/r/MensRights30/07/17 07:33 AM
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We agree on all of this, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Just because he's wrong, misguided, or ignorant doesn't mean we should toss him under the bus. We're finally given a chance to do something more than whine for once, but that's all I'm hearing in this thread.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 10:26 PM
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I think I see what you're saying. Both sides of both movements suffer a lot from being adversarial about everything. I think everyone does best when we frame our perspectives, issues, and concerns in a way that isn't a win/lose, us versus them situation. Maybe that would help people sympathize more and see the other perspective. That's an interesting point about being protectors. I'll have to think about that. I also think a lot of the words people use are just too accusatory. People often use t…
/r/MensRights29/07/17 09:58 PM
2

Sorry for calling you fake. I shouldn't have said that.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 09:51 PM
2

Here, let me role play someone else in the office. Maybe this will help. I'm his supervisor. "Thanks for putting up with the bathroom change, Dave. I'm glad it's only a short walk down stairs though." "Actually, the door is locked half the time. I never told you about it, but I'm filing a lawsuit." "What? Why is it locked? I didn't know about this! Sorry, I didn't know it was such an inconvenience. We can easily switch the rule right now. Thank you for letting me know." Do you get what's going o…
/r/MensRights29/07/17 09:39 PM
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Yeah, my point is that feminist issues are not like that. They're not so much institutional as they are social. It's a weird effect that makes it so that every woman experiences things like cat calling, widespread but not that serious. Men's issues are the opposite. It's very serious, and we talk about death, suicide, domestic violence, and children. Way more serious, but the majority of men haven't experienced anything like that still, so men don't feel oppressed, even though the issues are rea…
/r/MensRights29/07/17 09:32 PM
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What? Do your work for you? There aren't any applicable rules and/or principles of law. That's what I'm telling you, remember?? I have looked through the osha rules for bathrooms, as was linked in the comments. You brought up ammendment 14's bit about equal rights. All this stuff could possibly apply after he is discriminated against, after he is told that he can't use the bathroom, after he expresses in some way that he's not okay with the situation.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 09:22 PM
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Oh okay. That's fair. I don't think that changes anything, but you have a point.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 09:16 PM
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That's what I'm telling you though.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 09:15 PM
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I'm not pretending to have a degree, loser. I've been looking this up. There's nothing here until he's actually denied something, which is what everyone keeps saying.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 09:08 PM
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He didn't even tell anyone he wasn't okay with it! This combined with other evidence What is this bullshit? The story ends there. There is no "other evidence." You're just using a fake ", etc..." to make it sound like there's more going on there than one short discussion about splitting the bathrooms in which he never disagreed with. I mean, what is even gonna happen if he tries to take legal action here? His supervisor will say, "fine, sorry, we didn't realize there was a problem. You can use t…
/r/MensRights29/07/17 08:53 PM
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What do you mean he has an equal protection claim? It's not blatant discrimination. Genderized bathrooms exist across the country, and until he tells someone that this case is different because of whatever issues there are with the other bathroom, it's not different. You can't prove, you can't even assume, that this is discrimination at all. Until he actually talks to someone about it and someone tells him, "no, you still can't use the bathroom even though the only other bathroom isn't always av…
/r/MensRights29/07/17 08:45 PM
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Yeah, after he discusses it with a supervisor properly first and is still denied. The only comment I see there that's "mentioning a statute" of his rights here was pretty specific about that. If I order a dish, and they don't take out the peanuts, but I didn't tell them to take out the peanuts, I can't sue anyone.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 08:39 PM
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I think that's my point too then.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 07:31 PM
0

What? You're not saying he can get worker's comp from this, are you?
/r/MensRights29/07/17 07:25 PM
0

An injury? Did I miss something?
/r/MensRights29/07/17 07:15 PM
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He hasn't even asked why, or told anyone else about how hard it is to use the other bathroom. Dumbass.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 06:50 PM
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Yeah, if he's denied use of a bathroom, yeah. He hasn't been denied use of a bathroom yet though, because he hasn't asked for it.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 06:25 PM
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What's your point?
/r/MensRights29/07/17 06:11 PM
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This sounds like victim blaming. I gotta believe he probably asked for more than a couple hours every two weeks during the hearing or something.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 06:10 PM
1

God damn. I can't believe this sub. This man is troubled. I wish there were a way to contact him and show him what men's rights is really about. But mostly, I just hope he can get better and win more visitation. This is such a common issue, and it's exactly what we're fighting for. But this sub.... You see this and get outraged? Seriously, guys? This is exactly what we're here for, and just toss this guy under the bus? I've lost all faith in this sub. Even if this was a fake story, we have to re…
/r/MensRights29/07/17 06:08 PM
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What? what do you mean? "If he wanted to see his kids more, he could've just asked?" That can't be real. I don't know anything about this, but it goes against everything I've learned about men's issues.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 05:55 PM
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It doesn't really matter, does it? I had that question as well, but that's even MORE reason to react to it correctly. We have to have compassion. We can't just get outraged all the time.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 05:51 PM
1

Holy shit. You're part of the problem! Listen to yourself! He's what we're supposed to be fighting for! Why can't we respond with a little more compassion here?
/r/MensRights29/07/17 05:49 PM
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First of all, he's not being threatened with disciplinary action at all. If you read the post, something scummy happened, and instead of talking it out with his team members or even discussing it with a supervisor, he wants to jump straight into a lawsuit. Remember Hidden Figures? Nobody even realized she had to run across campus to get to the bathroom, because she never said anything. You gotta communicate when there's a problem. THEN you can talk about being marginalized and taking legal actio…
/r/MensRights29/07/17 05:52 AM
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Skimming the article, I'm not certain he should've been allowed to see the kids. He was troubled in many ways, and I don't know the whole situation. Either way, this is a really common story. There are plenty of men that should get more visitation and rights. This shows what can happen when they don't get that, whether they deserve it or not
/r/MensRights28/07/17 11:06 PM
0

You're bothered by objective journalism? It's our job to judge what the facts mean. It's their job to give us just the facts.
/r/MensRights28/07/17 11:03 PM
1

You're bothered by objective journalism? It's our job to judge what the facts mean. It's their job to give us just the facts.
/r/MensRights28/07/17 11:03 PM
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Another non-issue. Why don't we ever talk about real problems? Aha! Found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6q3jpa/dad_of_six_ended_his_own_life_because_he_couldnt/
/r/MensRights28/07/17 10:52 PM
1

Then stop complaining? Or what are you saying? It's too uncomfortable to close your legs? It's the same difference.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 05:18 PM
0

Because A: I can prove way faster that I don't have small balls or legs, and B: I'm pretty sure that idea's been played and disproved already. Everyone else hot swapped to q-angles, because it's not ball size. I don't definitely know that nobody else in the world experiences a need to keep their legs open, but I am skeptical. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not putting the tea pot in space here.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 03:48 PM
0

Oh, no, that ship already went down. They've jumped to the "q angle" life boats now. Get with the program.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 03:22 PM
1

A sample size of one is all it takes to disprove a hypothesis. This isn't stats class, this is science. You have a point, but then people should try explaining it with claims of biology. This is repeatable.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 03:19 PM
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It's definitely not that. Go back to the q angle thing. You'll have better luck with that one.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 11:44 AM
3

That may be the case, however, like people keep telling me to, I've been go ogling around. I can't find any reliable source on this. I don't think I'm really that different from other men. I'm average as can be. I can't prove there isn't some lone male out there who actually can't close their legs. I'll still remain skeptical though. I'm sorry. I don't believe you.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 11:43 AM
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I don't have to Google it to prove that the q-angle is not preventing me from closing my legs. I'm not trying to deny that it exists, only that it has any relevance to man-spreading. There. I Googled it. I have a q angle. I closed my legs. Clearly, the q angle does not prevent people from closing their legs. Edit: if you want to talk about physiology though, try turning your feet more toward each other.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 11:35 AM
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/r/cringe
/r/MensRights27/07/17 11:29 AM
-17

Am I misunderstanding what "man spreading" is supposed to be?
/r/MensRights27/07/17 11:23 AM
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It takes about a second to cross my legs. Less, because I was already doing it, because it's comfortable.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 11:13 AM
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Right... Sorry if I don't believe this for a second. /r/badmensanatomy up in here. Edit: I'm a man. I can sit with my legs crossed just fine. I absolutely don't have to keep my legs open or my knees apart, for any reason, comfort or otherwise. Can we abandon this pointless nonsense? Let's focus on the bags on chairs. That actually holds some water, unlike whatever this fake biology is. If your reaction to feminists complaining about manspreading is to try to justify it with fake science, insist …
/r/MensRights27/07/17 10:57 AM
1

Yeah.... We agree on that then.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 01:23 AM
0

What? Where is your mind taking this? I actually do think that transgender people having to wait till 18 to get treatment is completely bullshit, but I don't know why that's relevant.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 01:11 AM
0

I mean, yeah. A lot of cultures through history and around the world tended to marry around early teenage years. I don't see a problem with that. Another significant difference is that modern western culture is one of the first, few cultures that dont marry for basic survival purposes. We're the first who have an option in our society to pursue a personal career and won't be completely screwed without children to take care of us. We can't use children as free labor like people used to do either.…
/r/MensRights27/07/17 01:00 AM
4

That's a good point. Hmm..
/r/MensRights27/07/17 12:55 AM
-1

Are they? I feel like we don't have a right to judge that as someone outside of that culture. I feel like you can't objectively claim something like that. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but that's my instinct here, so I won't be making any judgements on stuff like this.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 12:42 AM
3

Hey, since you brought this up, the neck-stretching thing is super relevant to my perspective on the issue. I don't know that I can declare the neck stretching thing as definitely morally wrong. It's weird to me, of course. It is unnatural. It's their culture though. You make a good point though. I just thought it was cool that you brought up the neck thing. Also reminds me of, I think, the ancient mayans. They'd press their children's heads with boards to make them pointy. Weird, but only becau…
/r/MensRights26/07/17 09:32 PM
5

Mainly what this movement has done is made me rethink my opinions of cosmetic surgery, now that I've realized I've already had it. Maybe I should get my nose done next. Edit: I'm not against the movement, and I hear all the valid arguments. I'm just personally unsure how I feel about it. Pretty neutral. Probably wouldn't circumcise a kid of my own. Oh, but educating women is huge. I have a friend who doesn't even know what circumcision is. She's 20 and wants a son someday. Women get to make the …
/r/MensRights26/07/17 09:24 PM
1

No you wouldn't. You might wish for those privileges, but you misunderstand how dysphoria works. If you took hormones to become transgender (since you'd be a male inside a post-sex-changed woman body), you'd experience the opposite. MORE suicidal tendencies. WORSE Healthcare. MORE social issues. But I guess as of today people would assume you're too unstable to conscript at least.
/r/MensRights26/07/17 08:54 PM
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I really don't think people will be changing their gender just to get gender privileges. Even if you're joking, I think you don't understand the subject very well. Either way, a lot of men's disadvantages stem from biology. I think if people actually cared about that, they'd still pick male. They wouldnt be strong enough to be enlisted in the army or work the most dangerous jobs that result in men's higher death rate. They would possibly escape women's societal sexisms, which are much more widel…
/r/MensRights25/07/17 08:09 AM
5

People often throw us in the bin next to /r/theredpill, /r/conspiracies, /r/incels, and /r/mgtow, which sucks, because we're far removed from them.
/r/MensRights25/07/17 08:00 AM
1

"Go back to /r/menslib." I know they're not popular here, but coming from a feminist perspective, they're a good gateway sub. I imagine a lot of MRAs start like that.
/r/MensRights25/07/17 07:59 AM
2

What... You're talking about this sub? The last thread I was on was a rage-fest over a fake Breitbart article. We're usually pretty good, but far from the gold standard.
/r/MensRights25/07/17 07:57 AM
3

This so much. OP is right, but the top level comment was so wrong if they really think any demographic at all has more privilege than the transgender group. I'm so glad I'm not trans.
/r/MensRights25/07/17 07:53 AM
3

Well, sure, you were answering a valid question with valid answers. But don't act like you just walked away. You plastered it here. It clearly upset you. Which is fine, because we're men, and we're allowed to be upset when people treat us like snot.
/r/MensRights25/07/17 07:52 AM
0

Fake Breitbart articles aren't "right leaning," they're just fake Breitbart articles.
/r/MensRights24/07/17 10:13 PM
1

I can't help but feel the opposite here. "Watering down" depictions of men in war seems like it would actually help fight the disposable male idea. We want society to see war as something that everyone takes part in, not just men. I mean, misrepresenting historical events is a different matter, but say this were a fictional film, as part of the MRA movement, wouldn't I want more diverse roles in this?
/r/MensRights24/07/17 11:50 AM
1

History aside, wouldn't this kind of further our agenda? If we care about how drastic the difference between men and women in the roles of war are, which lead to so many more dead men, then having war movies with more women in them might seek to even that out right? Society could start to see war as less of a men's thing. I'm juts trying to stay logically consistent. I don't care about anything else.
/r/MensRights24/07/17 11:45 AM
1

What! XD no there aren't! Where? And why are they crying about Chester if that is true?
/r/MensRights21/07/17 08:38 PM
1

Tip of no iceberg. If that what you're worried about, these sparse crazy man-haters, maybe you should find a different sub to poison.
/r/MensRights21/07/17 08:36 PM
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Ugh. I knew I'd see this here eventually. I really, really don't want to argue about this right now. Linkin Park has been my favorite band for a very long time.
/r/MensRights21/07/17 08:26 AM
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Fuck dude. Why does it always come down to this? I didn't want to argue today, but seriously? Nobody wants men to die. That's insane. Talking like that isn't helpful at all.
/r/MensRights21/07/17 08:25 AM
6

I'm glad someone is discussing this. Anecdotal, but Chester was married with several kids or something. I wonder how much the problem is just being single in middle age.
/r/MensRights21/07/17 08:22 AM
1

We're not talking about courts though. We're talking about college. Safe spaces were (supposedly) about keeping people from saying negative things about feminism. What you want is to bring legal action to people who would say negative things about men's rights. "Censorship!" they cried, and "censorship!" they'll cry again.
/r/MensRights20/07/17 02:10 AM
2

I don't really think we should jump into the whole safe space thing. That didn't seem to go over well for feminism.
/r/MensRights19/07/17 07:00 PM
2

Anything publicly.
/r/MensRights19/07/17 06:56 PM
2

Well I think it's pretty difficult to refute. It's just women also all have certain privileges over men. They're just in different areas of life.
/r/MensRights19/07/17 06:54 PM
3

We're way, way, way more likely to be raped and not get justice than to be justiced for a rape we didn't commit. Frankly, I'm much more worried about those actual victims.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:30 PM
2

There are also more false accusations of theft/robbery.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:28 PM
6

If youtube comments and tumblr are any indication A small, vocal group of keyboard warriors? Probably not.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:11 PM
3

I thought this was gonna compare it to the lack of reactions when men are raped, but I guess it went for the false accusation thing. Oh well.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:09 PM
-8

Actually, that's exactly my point. Yes.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 05:19 AM
-19

Eh. Honestly, I'm inclined to believe the victim more in these cases, but nothing is proven, and of course that goes both ways.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 03:57 AM
1

Huh? Aren't we always talking about how 98% of the military is men or something?
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 11:42 AM
2

I love tumblr. It's great. I haven't been there since I got into the whole men's rights stuff, so I wonder what the scene there is like. Maybe I'll jump back in sometime. Still, it helped me a lot to understand my sexuality and also my partner's gender at the time.
/r/MensRights16/07/17 08:39 AM
6

This will sound really red pill-y, but I don't think I'll ever meet a girl that treats me quite as good as I treat girls. It sucks. Being treated to food and such... Being an emotional crutch. Being supportive. All that stuff. Not that I necessarily need it, and I'm totally happy being single, but that's why dating is so unappealing in general. I don't really expect to ever feel on even ground. Part of it is also the way I value things differently from other people. I don't want sexual favors so…
/r/MensRights16/07/17 08:38 AM
1

Abraham is religion has been around since about, oh wait, right, ancient Greece. Like I said. We're starting to leave it behind.
/r/MensRights14/07/17 07:45 PM
1

That was sort of my point. Men are not raped at the same rate if you talk about these things, and maybe that's important.
/r/MensRights14/07/17 07:36 PM
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Huh? We live in the most sex-positive time since like ancient Greece Edit: let me ask you this. What old days are you talking about? I'm not saying there aren't issues, but damn, why blame "current year" for it? It's the best it's ever been right now.
/r/MensRights14/07/17 11:24 AM
1

Then this post is false.
/r/MensRights14/07/17 09:23 AM
1

I'm guessing you don't really understand it then, because I don't. It's a strange issue, and I think it has a lot to do with how people feel before and after the fact. Also, apparently it's the initiator that needs to get consent, and I know some people who really shouldn't consent to anything after "only one beer."
/r/MensRights14/07/17 05:45 AM
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Yeah, I've seen the data that points to this. It's not wrong. Of course, men are far less susceptible to violent rape. The data lines up when you talk about things like alcohol influence nullifying the ability to consent. Also, a lot of studies don't count "forced to penetrate" as rape, which is why we don't hear about this often. It's usually a statistic I whip out when my roommate is manipulating data again.
/r/MensRights13/07/17 05:15 PM
1

You can leave if you want, but I'll appreciate if you stick around. This entire movement has a problem, and it needs more people like us to help keep it on a legitimate track.
/r/MensRights13/07/17 02:26 AM
1

Well it's a fallacy. Saying, "your argument is false because you used a word incorrectly" isn't actually disproving their argument. Just because they misused a word, it doesn't mean that the idea they meant to communicate is wrong. So when someone says, "you're wrong. Feminism is a good thing, because feminism is equality for everyone and cares about men's inequalities too," it's this fallacy. Some people's feminism is for everyone, and some people's feminism isn't.
/r/MensRights12/07/17 07:25 PM
2

That is ironic XD. Actually, I think it may have a more popular name, but I can't remember it right now. Yeah, it's basically what you described. Good example too. It's a fallacy, because having different ways of defining a word is a pointless argument. The idea behind the word is what the argument should be about. Otherwise, you're just having a miscommunication, not an argument. The "feminism means equality for all" versus "feminism is just for women" argument is exactly that. If a person's pe…
/r/MensRights12/07/17 07:19 PM
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Ah. If it sounds stupid, it's because it is stupid. If anyone does this to you, appeal their dictionary to the "fallacy of definitions."
/r/MensRights12/07/17 06:20 AM
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How many people are you thinking are having their minds polluted by dictionaries?
/r/MensRights12/07/17 05:31 AM
4

"four doesn't equal one! Four doesn't equal one!" It doesn't equal seven either. That's the whole point. Between you and me, I've stepped in those shoes. It's not the death that's tragic about suicide, it's the wanting to die. But that's a personal belief borne simply from my own experience. If I tried to talk about that here, he'd just yell more about how I, "want men to die." Ridiculous.
/r/MensRights11/07/17 03:59 AM
4

Well. If this is how you want to play, I'm checking out. Replacing logic and debate with inane ad hominem... And somehow I'm the dirty, man-hating feminist. Ironic.
/r/MensRights11/07/17 03:46 AM
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Oh we're in a shouting match now? Yes it does. Even if dead boys did get to try multiple times, women would still deal with more suicidal thoughts than men. Suicide is the #3 leading cause of death in teens, supporting my argument that this is an issue for everyone by your own logic. I'm a proud men's rights activist and a fact-based logical thinker. You're the bigot. Again, by your own logic, if people value women's lives over men (and they do, and it's a problem, but so is suicide), and you, y…
/r/MensRights11/07/17 03:40 AM
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What the fuck. Get YOUR head out of your ass. "People are fucking dying," and you're whining about who's issue it is. Even accounting for multiple attempts, that doesn't fully explain the discrepancy.
/r/MensRights11/07/17 03:17 AM
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Everyone knows women attempt more suicide than men, just men actually die from it more. I just can't justify this statistic as a responsible argument for why men have it worse. We have plenty of issues, but suicide is everyone's issue.
/r/MensRights11/07/17 02:12 AM
1

I came to a really similar conclusion when I discovered what all this is about actually, so I think that's smart. I think it's important to note that the issues we fight for as MRAs are really serious, but only a apply to a fraction of men. I've also never personally experienced anything that made me feel marginalized. So we hear feminists complain about social issues that seem petty and whiny. Men die at insane rates, while they complain about cat calling. The difference is that their experienc…
/r/MensRights11/07/17 12:58 AM
1

I'm not even sure if this is a joke or something. It's seems to completely misunderstand every other perspective. Yeah, these crushed, innocent men are why we're here. There IS a problem, and we see it. But everyone else, including some very intelligent people, are tossing this sub in with the like of /r/redpill and /r/conspiracies. You saw The Red Pill right? She talks about that guy, Elam I think, who is quoted asking people to beat women. That's what people see when they see us. We're the wor…
/r/MensRights10/07/17 11:52 PM
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Both. Definitely both. Although your question is a bit misleading, if you're truly asking which is more like an SJW between an MRA and a literal SJW. Between an MRA and a college feminist or LGBT ally or something though, they're not too different. We're online. This sub generally doesn't care about men as much as it cares about shutting down bigots and sexists. But I'm also inclined to throw out negative connotation in the definition here. Nobody self-identifies as an SJW, at least not a versio…
/r/MensRights10/07/17 09:47 PM
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If the only difference between the two is the negative connotations, I don't think there is much of a difference. "Real" SJWs don't define themselves by the negative connotations either.
/r/MensRights10/07/17 08:37 PM
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Oh as if we aren't basically SJWs too.
/r/MensRights10/07/17 08:10 PM
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86.5% of custody battles?
/r/MensRights09/07/17 10:40 PM
2

Load up all the rapists into their own trains and let it drive into the heart of a volcano. Was that so hard?
/r/MensRights09/07/17 04:16 PM
7

What data was changed?
/r/MensRights03/07/17 02:58 PM
1

Did you have a better suggestion?
/r/MensRights02/07/17 05:17 PM
2

What's the problem here? Most of the backlash against different bathrooms comes from an idea that all men are rapists. Isn't this a good thing in that case?
/r/MensRights26/06/17 12:47 PM
1

I don't even like sex tbh, so I guess I can't really say how natural it is to care about consent. I assume most men care though.
/r/MensRights19/06/17 02:20 PM
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The problem I have with the whole issue is that it's MEN claiming the biology argument as the reason why they have to do this, which is bullshit. Just yesterday, I surprised a girl by sitting with my legs crossed because so many guys had told her it wasn't possible or was really uncomfortable or some shit.
/r/MensRights18/06/17 11:10 PM
1

I wouldn't even say that. "Equality" still implies a comparison. If it's bad, it's bad. If it's bad, we fight it. That should be the bottom line.
/r/MensRights13/06/17 09:49 AM
1

A Google search came up with a full page of results saying the left/right brain theory is a myth with no basis in science.
/r/MensRights11/06/17 11:07 PM
5

Well I know that's not true, because the left-brain - right-brain tendency thing is a myth. There's some truth in that people do have different personalities and think in different ways, but it doesn't equate to using one side of the brain more than the other.
/r/MensRights11/06/17 11:12 AM
3

Well it's also historical. For most of history, having children was an investment and means of survival that equated to free labor and someone to take care of you when you're old. Children not being property is kind of a new thing
/r/MensRights11/06/17 06:03 AM
4

Really? I totally thought the dominant hand was just a tendency. I've trained myself to use my left hand for certain stuff.
/r/MensRights11/06/17 06:00 AM
5

I think, if I understand correctly, the person didn't get banned HERE. They posted here and got banned THERE.
/r/MensRights10/06/17 07:41 PM
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You really think this sub isn't even a little bit hateful? I'm here for men's rights, too, but there is a lot of adversarial type language. I mean, we trash talk feminism a lot.
/r/MensRights10/06/17 05:04 PM
1

No one deserves an abusive partner Yeah right. This is reddit. We'll damn you to a life of butt rape for next to nothing.
/r/MensRights10/06/17 06:24 AM
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Thanks. I needed to see something like this, especially here. It's really very appreciated
/r/MensRights08/06/17 02:35 PM
7

Frankly, I believe that guy. Do YOU have any evidence to suggest mimicry is something could possibly happen while unconscious?
/r/MensRights08/06/17 02:33 PM
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I just want the fight for men's rights to go in the right direction, to be focused on solving problems. Using misleading statistics isn't helping anyone. Neither is the oppression Olympics.
/r/MensRights08/06/17 02:50 AM
2

This doesn't really bother me that much...
/r/MensRights08/06/17 01:55 AM
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43% is a minority More men commit suicide, but more women attempt it. All of your statistics are binary, men versus women, and that's not the way we should be dealing with issues.
/r/MensRights08/06/17 12:41 AM
1

Yeah right. That never stopped anyone.
/r/MensRights07/06/17 10:59 PM
1

I don't know that it is though. Men, biologically, are more likely to experience pain and frustration through anger than sadness.
/r/MensRights06/06/17 09:46 PM
1

Some people are definitely like that. The generalization hurts me though
/r/MensRights05/06/17 10:13 PM
4

According to my man-hating roommate, "A survey of college students shows that 95% of men would rape if they knew they could get away with it."
/r/MensRights05/06/17 10:11 PM
1

I fucking hate rape. That's why I was so, so hesitant to jump on any kind of men's rights bus for a long time. A lot of people would have us think MRA are rape apologists. Maybe some of them are, but not all.
/r/MensRights05/06/17 10:10 PM
2

Have you read Cosmo? Yeah, neither have I, but the magazines at the the checkout stands are full of self improvement stuff on the covers.
/r/MensRights04/06/17 07:31 AM
4

If you're addressing this issue by trying to attack, incriminate, and bring down women to our level, who are you helping? This is a men's issue.
/r/MensRights03/06/17 02:20 AM
5

According to https://datausa.io/about/, there were only 2,494 women's studies degrees awarded in 2015. In comparison, there were over 28,000 Computer Science degrees awarded, and the national rate of women in stem fields is about 25%. That means there are almost three times as many women with Computer Science degrees alone compared to all the people with women's studies degrees. But yeah, I was gonna say that too. If you really want karma on reddit, mention something like vocational studies.
/r/MensRights01/06/17 07:04 PM
2

Or the meninists arent the real MRA right? I've heard that one here before.
/r/MensRights01/06/17 06:15 PM
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I hate reddit for this. People here act like if you're not engineering or computer science, you're throwing your life in the trash. I just can't believe that fine arts or liberal arts are completely useless. And that's the thing, people talk about these gender studies degrees like THAT'S what women are taking. What about education degrees? Nursing is a women's field, and it's one of the fastest growing fields. What about journalism and writing? What about anthropology or other social studies? An…
/r/MensRights01/06/17 06:09 PM
2

Would that make you more likely to go? It's certainly interesting. I think you're right about 15 years ago. Go back a bit further, like the 70s, some comic books were actually kind of sexist, so it's easy to see why women haven't traditionally been into that. I'm glad things have changed for women in that regard. I hope to see more improvement in male characters soon too though.
/r/MensRights01/06/17 04:58 AM
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The way I see it, having a "this gender only" event is only useful in one situation, when you want more members of that gender to participate in that thing in general. So you have to ask the question, "do we want to influence more women to watch Marvel?" "Do we want to influence more men to watch Star Wars?" I think it's clear which demographic is underrepresented in these events. However, it's kind of dumb to complain about "this gender only" events no matter what. Even if star wars is male-dom…
/r/MensRights31/05/17 11:34 PM
1

Don't respond. It's a bait. You can still advocate for equal rights and stuff without taking a label.
/r/MensRights31/05/17 09:37 PM
0

It's says either: I'm misinformed, like I originally stated, These people aren't real feminists, Or that none of this is true. It also says that I believe in equal rights, so that's a good thing. Anyway, this leaves me with a lot of questions, but also someplace to start. Thank you for explaining.
/r/MensRights30/05/17 08:16 PM
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I've learned a lot about men's issues and it's something I care a lot about. But I'm still a feminist. Maybe there's something I don't know about feminism. That said, if that's what you think about feminism, it really says a lot about your meninism.
/r/MensRights30/05/17 07:37 PM
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I guess that's why I'm still a feminist.
/r/MensRights29/05/17 08:01 PM
2

I'll have the wine, thanks.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 06:50 PM
1

Trying to read this on mobile, but this says it was about a hundred women convicted in 2011.
/r/MensRights24/05/17 12:15 PM
0

Probably no different for anyone not in trouble with the law...
/r/MensRights23/05/17 10:22 PM
7

I think, in many case, "forced to penetrate" is not considered rape for a man, only penetration. I've seen statistical studies that counted it like this, but I don't know what the legal definitions are.
/r/MensRights23/05/17 10:19 PM
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In the word of my programming prof, "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I HAVE TENURE! :D"
/r/MensRights22/05/17 07:38 PM
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Z... Zero? This happens to you? I AM a fat ugly neckbeard, but at least nobody online can call me out on it.
/r/MensRights21/05/17 09:04 PM
2

Middle age? Fuck. I thought it was high school. I have to go through more of this shit.
/r/MensRights20/05/17 08:19 PM
1

There's no context to this. I read this as a protest against women's opinions being silenced.
/r/MensRights05/05/17 01:18 PM
1

This is important so that more of the actual rape accusations of Uber drivers will be listened to!
/r/PussyPassDenied07/04/17 09:25 PM
1

Yeah, short hair and a beard just will never be an innocent look to me after Ex Machina.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/04/17 09:22 PM
1

There are men in prison today who will serve decades in jail who did not rape the woman who accused them. Rape is one of the least falsely accused crimes, and it's important to note that for all the same reasons. Reducing false rape accusations does nothing if the public still thinks it's a common thing.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/04/17 09:21 PM
0

Why do they choose those careers? Why is that what they want to do?
/r/MensRights12/12/16 02:10 PM
0

Why is that?
/r/MensRights12/12/16 01:59 PM
1

That's obviously not true though. You just said it. We see more women at step two. Why aren't they showing up at step four?
/r/MensRights12/12/16 01:49 PM
3

Doesn't that just further make the wage gap, or "career gap," more questionable? They're generally more qualified for less important jobs?
/r/MensRights12/12/16 01:00 PM
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I just don't believe it. Women aren't equal in any other place in society, so why would they be equal in wages? It just isn't believable. Maybe that is the difference. Women aren't paid less for jobs, they're just forced to take less paying jobs. Still not sure I'd believe it that way though...
/r/MensRights12/12/16 12:44 PM
-8

Is this a sarcastic sub? Or.... What is it?
/r/MensRights06/12/16 07:31 PM
1

Welp I'm fucked
/r/seduction04/12/16 02:32 AM
0

.... I think I can.... I mean, there's like statistics and stuff I could use.
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