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1	Q4 Red and Blue pillers: How many people on either side do you think actually want to learn, grow, understand, etc., and how many just want their side to 'win'? And how many just want to feel good about feeling they're right, even at the expense of their side? The best antagonist believes that they are fighting for what is right. It's why Killmonger was praised as the villain of Black Panther. It's why there have been discussions over whether Thanos was the protagonist of Infinity War. I don't think of Red Pill as my enemy. In fact, I think they actually do a very good thing for young men in building confidence. I, too, once tried pick-up artistry for a time (and failed miserably) but the experience left me stronger. I knew more about people, just by …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/18 09:10 PM
3	why is caring about personality, as opposed to looks, seen as virtuous and deep? A great personality can make up for mediocre looks. A shitty personality can turn an otherwise beautiful person into a horrible goblin. The opposite is rarely true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/18 08:55 PM
3	Reverse-shit test So basically your "reverse-shit test" is seeing if you can be yourself around someone? And if you can't, then you switch to "game" just so you can get laid? It's not totally invalid. I just think it's generally something a lot of us men do anyway. You've just made it a more conscious habit. I think this is very similar to the idea of the "fuck-zone" as well. I've known girls who liked me, but I didn't see them as the kind of women I wanted to be with for the long haul, so we just had sex. To be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/18 08:49 PM
2	Would Appreciate Hearing Your Opinion on Dating in the MeToo Era Semantics, sure. But I've been cheated on and cheated with and I'm still automatically trusting. I'm generally pretty perceptive with people and the time I was cheated on, I can't say I didn't see it coming, but it was still a surprise. Our relationship was on the rocks at the time and she was forthcoming about it when I questioned her. The times women cheated with me, I can't say I felt any shame based on those unique situations. Basically I'm saying I'll continue to be the same trusting person…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/18 10:22 PM
1	Would Appreciate Hearing Your Opinion on Dating in the MeToo Era I may be wrong, but it seems like I just wasn't unlucky enough to have crossed paths with a manipulative liar. I don't think most people are like that, but maybe I'm naive because I assume the best in people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/18 09:56 PM
2	Would Appreciate Hearing Your Opinion on Dating in the MeToo Era I recognize this post has been taken down, but I enjoy the discussion and hopefully you'll still be able to read and reply to comments. I ended up watching the video after posting my comment, by the way. I think one question we should be asking is how women can be more up-front about their level of interest. Like the example of my friend who was afraid of losing her job, many women may fear that telling an interested party that she does not return the feelings can result in the man getting more …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/18 06:25 PM
3	Would Appreciate Hearing Your Opinion on Dating in the MeToo Era Dating has not changed at all for me, mostly because I recognized some issues with myself before MeToo became a thing. I've had friends come out about their own experiences, such as one woman who allowed a superior to get a little too familiar with her thigh at a dinner event because she was afraid for her job if she'd said/done anything about it. I have not watched your video yet so you may address what I'm about to talk about, but I'd like to get my raw thoughts out in writing. (Maybe edit the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/18 06:06 PM
2	Questions about male anger. Jealousy is a good way to motivate yourself to do better. My ex was kind of a daddy's little girl, but her big brother somehow overcame his urge to hate women. Seriously, though, I've heard more about the stereotype of the protective big brother than one who's jealous of his younger sister for getting more attention. It's more likely to see that between sisters in my experience. Rejection is not the end of the world, least of all a reason to get angry enough to feel like you could murder someone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/18 12:51 PM
1	[Q4W] What's the thought process behind playing hard to get? Guy here, but I'll echo what a lot of people have been saying from the other side. If a girl I'm interested makes her mutual interest clear, it can make dating easy, but it sometimes takes a little bit of the fun out of it. That dangerous period of uncertainty at the beginning, where you're not really sure how she sees you exactly or what her intentions are, can be thrilling. Even further, if you're already having sex with the person and you're looking for a relationship, you don't know yet if t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/18 07:34 PM
4	Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice? I've been the guy in this situation, but without the weight gain. Girlfriend was a skinny blonde, as it happens, and the sex was great. But I got addicted to porn and the real thing just lost some of its appeal. I think it's for two reasons: First, you have total control over what you get to watch/experience with porn, and if you're not feeling one body type or sex act at the moment, you can easily find another. Plus you have access to thousands of naked women who aren't the person you're with. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/18 12:50 PM
1	Why don't feminists address the role of women in causing toxic masculinity and ask them to radically change their preferences in men? So you did. I didn't reread the OP before replying to your comment. I read it at first and then dealt with what you were saying at the moment when you replied to me. I think you might just be a little misguided about toxic masculinity. What you describe is something I've never seen, and it also sounds like you're suggesting feminists encourage women to consider jobless men as eligible mates. Basically, your post created a new definition of toxic masculinity and used that as though that was the f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/18 08:33 PM
3	Why don't feminists address the role of women in causing toxic masculinity and ask them to radically change their preferences in men? I've personally dealt with this situation, actually, and it's not what I was referring to. And it did lead to the end of a relationship. She admitted it was tough to deal with. But I was getting more and more stressed and depressed about school, work, etc. and I didn't handle it well. They weren't previous battles with depression but present at the time. The solution wasn't to stop showing emotion altogether. Instead I became more proactive about treating my own depression, and I'm happier now a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/18 03:28 PM
3	Why don't feminists address the role of women in causing toxic masculinity and ask them to radically change their preferences in men? To your point about stoicism, you're right. I wasn't really referring to the actual meaning of it, though, because I don't think stoicism is part of toxic masculinity. It's men who berate other men for having emotions that's toxic. And some women do this, too. Good on you for being rational. Women who say their man should be more emotional will always break up shortly after because suddenly it's "too much". Men don't make that mistake anymore. This sounds more like conjecture than fact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/18 01:58 PM
5	Why don't feminists address the role of women in causing toxic masculinity and ask them to radically change their preferences in men? They want to be manly to attract women. Gays aren't concerned with being manly because they don't care about getting women. You're making two wrong assumptions here. First, you don't have to be manly to attract women. Manliness is only one trait a man can have. Being respectable, clean, healthy, etc. are also on the list, and if you're "manly" and you lack traits a potential interest is looking for, you're going to be SOL no matter how manly your manliness is. I think your POV is coming from the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/18 04:24 AM
4	Why don't feminists address the role of women in causing toxic masculinity and ask them to radically change their preferences in men? In my experience, it's men who reinforce toxic masculinity not because of preference, but because they want to be manly and if you're not manly like them, they'll criticize everything about you that isn't manly. In short, I don't get the basis of your argument. Are you saying that men should be toxically masculine? I don't think you understand what toxic masculinity means. It's men who play up their masculinity to be on top of everything, to assert dominance in every aspect of their lives. This …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/18 03:22 AM
2	My friend told me about the "red pill" Well, it's not my favorite thing about her, sooo... I actually like her for a lot of other reasons. We have sex with each other because of all of the things we like about each other. I do like that my girlfriend likes sex, though, so sure. And she's aware, since she's reading this as I type.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/15 04:00 AM
4	My friend told me about the "red pill" I and no one else has ever owned my girlfriend. She has sex because of the same reasons you listed except for the being a slut bit. Seriously, can I ask where you're from?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/15 03:54 AM
3	My friend told me about the "red pill" Slut: an immoral or dissolute woman; prostitute Basically, by calling your girlfriend (and mine) a slut, you're calling her a prostitute. Do you pay your girlfriend for sex?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/15 03:40 AM
3	My friend told me about the "red pill" Well, then that's between you and her. "Slut" is not a generally accepted term. Just asked my fiancee if she likes being called a slut. She got a concerned look on her face and said no. What I was saying is that I do not identify with the red pill. This forum is a debate forum between Red Pill and non-RP people. There is a satire subreddit called /r/TheBluePill which I follow, and I would be called a Blue Piller or "Blooper" around these parts. But I should note that the Blue Pill is not a real …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/15 03:30 AM
5	My friend told me about the "red pill" Whoa whoa whoa, I'm not red pill. And I was not disagreeing with you. Second, there is nothing wrong with a girl liking sex. My fiancee enjoys sex as much as I do, and we're each other's like sixth partner - we're in our twenties. So we're in agreement on that bit. What I was objecting to was the term "slut," which has a very negative connotation to it. It's used to degrade women, to make them seem less than human for liking sex. I don't know if you're ESL or something, but "slut" isn't a word y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/15 02:53 AM
6	My friend told me about the "red pill" I'm confused. Of course women like sex, and I agree with the overall sentiment, but do you still have to call them sluts? Liking sex does not make one a slut. It makes them a human being with intact naughty bits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/15 02:24 AM
1	If feminism is about equality, why have feminists done NOTHING about the plight of the incel? That's certainly valid. I guess it also takes away the "thrill of the hunt" of picking up girls. And I don't think I'd be good to go if I went out to the bar with friends and had someone approach me like that. So I guess the argument is that girls can dress up slutty and go to the bar and get guys to approach them, then put on the moves if they want to sleep with them. Which goes back to what I've said elsewhere about how girls know when you're gaming them, and if they happen to want sex, they'l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/15 01:17 PM
1	CMV: All women are bisexual to a degree Going off of your reasoning to do with lesbian porn, does that mean that men find women's and men's bodies equally sexy since hetero porn is consumed more by straight men? Kind of a confusing stat to use as a reasoning to your view. Anyway, I agree with the current top comment saying that sexuality is a spectrum. There's no need to be binary about it. Women are also more likely to be more open about their sexuality, which is why more women experiment with their own gender than men do. Although I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/15 10:22 PM
19	If feminism is about equality, why have feminists done NOTHING about the plight of the incel? Well this shit's gonna get buried under these 300+ comments, but I gotta say it anyway. You realize that women aren't going to shame you for being incel, or even for being a virgin. In fact, this post is a great example of a guy thinking he'd get shamed for being a virgin, but actually finding out the exact opposite. Much like how only men really give a shit about penis size, it's men who are judging you for being incel, or being a virgin. You're too "beta" to get laid, so there must be somethin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/15 09:45 PM
1	CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist. So, on the one hand, you've got OP saying that the extreme example of NiceGuysTM doesn't exist. Then you've got a guy claiming to be able to pull up 5,000 examples of feminists claiming this extreme to be true. I won't deny that it's possible (though it would be a timely endeavor and no one would spend the time curating those examples) because the world is very large. But then there's me (hi) telling you that I am one of those people, and I've never claimed the extreme example to be the true def…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/15 03:44 PM
1	CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist. How about you ask a feminist what they actually mean when they say it? I'll save you some time. I'm a feminist. When I say it, I mean what I said above. Don't cast such broad-sweeping statements at an entire group. Sure, there probably are some people who take a more extreme definition of NiceGuys, but I feel like you and the other guy can't get over the fact that they don't represent the entire group or even the majority. Must come from TRP's rampant hatred toward feminism and women. Do we need…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/15 10:55 AM
1	CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist. I can only speak for myself and can't really say I know what a group of people think, either as a group or as individuals. I can only presume based on my own view, just as you can only do the same. Our biases are on opposite sides, so that may just change our view toward the group. Let's agree to disagree on this one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/15 02:06 PM
1	CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist. That may just be from the people who haven't "been there." The people who've seen/read the hyperbolic narrative and spread it. I think most of us see that narrative and realize what they mean isn't as literal as what they're saying. You guys, and those who the stereotype resembles, are the only ones who get upset about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/15 01:38 PM
1	CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist. It is rather unfortunate that the extreme gets flagged around the way it does. I think it may just be more of a way of illustrating a point than actually trying to scare people off. I could be wrong, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/15 07:50 PM
1	CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist. Oh no, I did. And I've noticed you accusing others of the same thing throughout this thread. The issue here is the hyperbole. You're right that this hyperbolic version of NiceGuysTM does not exist. Or at least, if they do exist, they're fucking insane manifesto-writing crazies like the Santa Barbara killer. In other words, the minority. Some people earnestly use the term NiceGuyTM but attach the hyperbole as examples: Nice guys believe women are vending machines where you put in nice coins and g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/15 07:43 PM
1	A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice. So, let me see if I follow: Manipulating people is okay because everyone is manipulating everyone else, right? So, we should be deceptive to everyone, because everyone else is being deceptive? That sounds fairly paranoid and untrusting. I don't want to live that way. If someone's trying to manipulate me, I'll let them know to their face that I see what's happening and I'm not putting up with it. It happened just the other day at work, in fact. If you can't trust anyone, though, that's sad, man. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/15 07:25 PM
1	CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist. You're right that it's an exaggeration. You're wrong that it doesn't exist. Having been the stereotypical NiceGuyTM in the past, I can say - at least in my case - that it wasn't about sex. A NiceGuyTM is supposed to be a "gentleman." So sex is never on the table as the prize. The prize is the girl, the returned feelings, a relationship. Where the NiceGuyTM goes wrong is treating the situation like any other friendship. They completely take sex off the table. Shit, I said it better recently, so I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/15 07:20 PM
1	A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice. Oh, I don't stand for being manipulated. But I don't like being deceptive. I'll confront people directly when they're trying to pull some shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/15 07:12 PM
1	A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice. True enough. But I think the only things that might actually be lasting about game are confidence in social situations and the ability to manipulate people. One is good, the other is bad - and this is coming from a man who realized he was manipulative without even trying. I had to do a lot of work on myself to be a more genuine person and stop using people to my own ends. So, yeah, you're right. You have to choose the person you want to become and figure out how to make yourself into that person…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/15 07:04 PM
1	A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice. This is the idea behind "Fake it 'till you make it." I agree with you that it's possible for this to happen to people who use game, but I'd say that it's not exactly a good thing. Instead of "being yourself" you would be someone else that you turned yourself into. People change, of course, but in the long run, becoming a life-long playboy isn't a great life strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/15 06:53 PM
8	A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice. I'm not telling people to sit around and just wait for good things to happen to them. Thing is, my advice isn't just to rely on chance, fortune, and happenstance. My advice is to be patient and not to force things into being. In the meantime, you need to work on yourself. Physically, emotionally, career-wise, etc. These things will make you more desirable as not only a partner, but as a friend, employee, and person as well. This is the work you have to put in. It's not all sitting around and wai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/15 06:44 PM
2	A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice. Well then it's good that I wasn't suggesting that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/15 05:58 PM
3	A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice. What do you want me to say? That luck and circumstance aren't part of dating? Part of life? I'm not saying that you should rely on luck to just let things happen. You have to work with what you've got, and if there's no luck, you work harder. I don't get how your comment helps at all. All you're saying is that luck is not a viable dating strategy, which is true enough, but not really relevant to what I was saying at all. My point, more so, is that sometimes you can't just make things happen, but…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/15 05:53 PM
6	A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice. Thing is, TRP and PUA ideology inspires a false confidence. Game is not you. Game is a persona that you put on to pick up women, and not for anything meaningful. And that's the point of Just Be Yourself. You need to remain genuine. And as a formerly awkward kid, I know how easy it is to slip into trying to impress any girl you meet. Just Be Yourself doesn't mean that if you're genuine, women will like you. It means that you'll meet the right person for you. And don't ever get jealous of guys pic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/15 03:14 PM
1	The real problem with nice guys. I think this is just the Red Pill angle of the same thing that's been discussed the whole time. You don't have to be bold and assertive. You just have to not take sexuality off the table. As a former Nice GuyTM I can tell you that it's common to just talk to girls we're interested in just like any other friend, as if to make it clear that, "Hey, I'm the good guy. I'm not even thinking about how I can get you to sleep with me. You can tell because of how much I'm avoiding the topic of sex." It co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 12:10 AM
5	Feminism has just become recursive Your relationship sounds like mine. I'm the better cook, so I do the cooking. In exchange, she does the dishes. We tend to trade off on laundry, but I never fold it unless she's out of town. I absolutely hate folding and besides, she's better at it. Oh no I must be being taken advantage of because I share the work with someone I actually love.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/15 11:31 PM