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Hi, I'm also from a Lancashire working class family. Are you agreeing with me that in your experience RP mentality is certainly not mainstream in the UK? Have you found, like me, that the majority of your friendships and relationships with the opposite sex have existed with a foundation of gender equality and having a laugh, as opposed to the RP 'model?'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 07:57 PM
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Disagree. 31 year old Brit here, not really encountered much sexism or prejudice amongst peers, friends or colleagues and certainly not in relationships. RP mentality is far far from any mainstream Ive known. That's what keeps bringing me back, its like a small-minded sexism car crash, Ive never seen anything like it!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 04:40 PM
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Agreed. Add to that the mental tightrope walk between feeling like a sexual being and a 'slut', and the fact that no, we can't just walk out of the house and get inundated with offers of dates and sex (unless super, super hot.) We dont have it easier and we aren't all that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 04:33 PM
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...Im taking that to indicate that you are a redpiller and you agree with the basic premise that TRP is mostly men who have been unsuccessful with women and girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 04:22 PM
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Aww diddums. Did I strike a chord? What did I say that made you feel ashamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 07:16 AM
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RPers know firsthand where following BP advice gets them why should a man not abandon BP when through years of experience he finds IT doesn't work Could you outline what BP advice is please? I think you'll find there isn't any BP advice, BP isn't an alternative way of life to RP, it's just a sub created to mainly ridicule your outrageous prejudice against women. I think things like having confidence, valuing yourself and not putting other people on a pedestal are both blue pill and red pill, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 02:31 PM
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I know! So tunnel-visioned...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 09:10 AM
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I'd say there's at least 50% of the population to whom RP absolutely does not describe reality. That can't be denied. I am female, and I think therefore I am. Plus a large proportion of men of all ages who are well adjusted and have experienced fun, respectful friendships and relationships with women- RP also does not describe reality to them either. I suspect the traumatised individuals to whom the RP 'accurately describes reality,' are very small in number, and occupy a very specific demograph…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 08:59 AM
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Ah, you're missing the context "blue pill dating advice." Blue Pill are both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 06:10 AM
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Thanks for your concern. It isnt just depressing- the reason I keep going back to look at RP is because it's hilarious in a dark comedy kind of way. It's just a little depressing on those occasions when it seems like the terpers are real people who really are that messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 11:36 PM
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A lot of you terpers seem very traumatised by life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 11:05 PM
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I see men and women as people, but terpers who make statements like "blue pill has no idea how to date women?" Seem to see us as this complete 'other' who need to be dealt with in a formulaic and methodical fashion, like putting in some kind of cheat code to make the sex come out. In my worldview two people have a connection involving mutual attraction and enjoying talking to each other, which sometimes leads to sex and/or love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 11:03 PM
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And what possible evidence could you claim shows that women go off men after child rearing age? And on what planet does that only take 2-3 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 09:00 PM
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Wow, you are actually serious! I'm gobsmacked. You have never known a couple who are in love with each other? What traumatic event happened to you to make you so convinced that women's brains and emotions are so so different to men's?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 08:58 PM
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Wow...so you think no women fall in love with men? And women lose interest in men in later life? What about all the women who fall in love? (Ofter with forbidden men of lower status?) What about all the older women, aunties and grannies you know who love their husbands? Oh just realised you are doing a joke parody of Red Pill, right? Surely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 08:40 PM
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I daresay most of us have a preference, usually but not always depending on whether we are male or female. Its more of a case of connecting with another person as opposed to the "how to date womenz," RP 'technique.'
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 07:28 PM
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Exactly. As far as I'm aware the Blue Pill has no central code of ethics, lifestyle etc. For me, it's a way of coping with the depressing and misguided existence of the RP subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 06:11 PM
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Id argue that one place rp and bp agree is that you need to be your own person, be assertive and have boundaries. I suspect that a lot terpers fall into the sub because they have been wet blankets in the past. No strong minded woman wants a submissive lettuce who puts her on a pedestal, however that doesnt mean we want a self-styled "alfa" who plays silly games.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 03:23 PM
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Nope, we date people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 03:20 PM
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Purple pill, I apologise. On my way out to work, and though I usually enjoy reading outrageous rp statements, this one seemed particularly ill-thought out, illogical and peurile. Just blasted off the actual dismissive thought that went through my head. Glad the mods are on it with no personal insults. From now on, If I don't have time to point out why I think the statement is idiotic, Ill keep my thoughts to myself in future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 03:18 PM
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I apologise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 03:13 PM
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I apologise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 03:13 PM
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Hahaha why do you even have to ask? Only women ever do that. Or act like children. Obv. Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 02:49 PM
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1) It's sexist 2) Blue pill isn't remotely a dating sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 02:39 PM
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Excellent response!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 02:33 PM
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...apart from the fact that if it was legal, lots of men would take that option and the cost of unwanted pregnancy would rest even more heavily o tbe shoulders of the mother. Also more children would have less money. The child would pay for THEIR FATHER's selfishness.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 01:10 PM
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Fair enough well I've only had to endure it a few times and it seemed to me like they were a) shallow skeletal clothes horses making women look like muppets and b) talked about the guys they were shagging in a way that wouldn't go down well the other way round. My bad!
/r/MensRights06/03/14 09:35 AM
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I was more referring to the fact they have sex with guys then gossip about it, whether they're in relationships with them or not. I imagine people wouldn't like to see that the other way round.
/r/MensRights06/03/14 09:11 AM
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YES! Perpetuation their contempt further!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:41 AM
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Okay fair enough. Reading between the lines I think the thing that works is that it encourages guys who were acting really drippy and clingy towards women to be more confident and assertive, which of course is a lot more attractive. A guy I had a conversation with about RP was saying that "Since taking the red pill if a woman says something stupid I criticise it the same way I would a guy rather than just say what she wants to hear." To him this was 'red pill techniques working." I call it treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:59 PM
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Okay, there are an incredible lot of these assholes though, and they seem to be the ones posting and responding to things people write... If it isn't the core belief of TRP shouldn't the moderators be removing the blatantly prejudiced posts? They're quick enough to remove polite and reasoned comments questioning the more outrageous prejudiced statements!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:53 PM
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Hmm, "Examining how men and women can work together and understand each other?" I have read loads of stuff on red pill about how women are manipulative, have no accountability, and aren't worth reasoning with because they can't do logic. Also the whole plate spinning/ women hitting a wall at 30/ etc has definitely not sounded like men trying to work together with women. There was a post recently about 'treating women like children,' the basis of which was all of the blatant prejudices above and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:42 PM
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Hmm, well some of them don't seem to have had any experience. Like the guy who said the genders wouldn't have anything to do with each other apart from sex, or the one who told me that having friendships with male colleagues in the office was "Playing with Fire." Clearly these people have never lived in the real world where you have easy going friendships with people of both genders. It's very sad for them! Also, racists and people who are anti-gay would probably say they are basing their opinio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:18 PM
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Yep, totally sexist. Its fun to imagine 'sex and the city' with the genders reversed- a group of guys shagging loads of women hen meeting and discussing them. Would go down very badly.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 04:41 PM
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Yes, when I read the "women are like children" thing I thought that might be the case with one or two women we might meet in our entire lifetimes, the extremely shallow, beautiful, rich, prom queen, plastic surgery type. (Ironically their appeal is probably almost exclusively to red pill types, whole world of discussion there...) And yes, there are as many men who act like overgrown children as there are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:03 PM
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Absolutely spot on!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 03:21 PM
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Oh, no I'm just here as a human who is curious about human nature and viewpoints and all that stuff, typical redditor really! I'm really curious what you expect red pill women to do in an office environment though, should they just not talk to men in case the men fancy them? Sounds like you want them in a Burka! I'm not being snarky, just genuinely curious and I'm sure any real world red pill women would be equally curious.
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/14 06:46 AM
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So having a male friend who may fancy me is "the cruel face of female solipsism," Again, I ask, if you work with people, in an office, you're not going to blank them. Be realistic, of course you're going to be friends. Also, isn't 'plate spinning' somewhat similar to the situation you're talking about?
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/14 06:36 AM
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What if we work together for years? Should I blank him? And what if we are both in relationships? Should I blank him? What about if my male colleague is 30 years older but fancies me? Blank them? Of course not, people can be friends. To not be friends with people because they are the opposite sex is surely sociopathic?
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/14 06:12 AM
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I dont NEED sexual tension, we are talking about whether it is worth having platonic friendships and your comment seems to suggest that if a platonic friend fancies you, the friendship isnt worth having. I'm saying, it can make a friendship more fun, its no reason not to have a mixture of friends even if some involve sexual tension. I have lots of friends of different ages from all walks of life- its part of having a job for most people. Some are male some are female. Its all good! Orbiters schm…
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/14 04:12 AM
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What if the sexual tension is fun and adds to the friendship? Just because the guy would have sex with you doesnt mean you can't have a laugh, in fact sometimes it makes for a fun friendship you couldnt have with someone you didn't fancy, in my experience.
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/14 02:28 AM
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Really? So slagging off women's rights is an intrinsic part of men's rights? Maybe this should be a puffin meme but I honestly think they are two sides of the same coin and should work together towards the shared goal of equality and fairness for all people. This is such a dystopian sub.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 01:19 AM
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Jeez why does it always come back to slagging off feminists?
/r/MensRights25/02/14 11:41 PM
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Lets see you. Post a pic!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 11:37 PM
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The bell curve thing is a fact, but doesn't it still average out as equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 11:40 AM
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What you wrote is really interesting but if Im thinking it others will be... what has that to do with Red Pill? Didn't see the connection, apart from the bit about feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 06:24 AM
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I disagree.
/r/seduction15/02/14 08:40 AM
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This looks great!
/r/MensRights12/02/14 01:03 PM
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He does it because he likes them done his way...alpha dishes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 10:06 PM
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Don't they only use affirmative action in male-dominated jobs and careers though? (And for minorities?) I've never heard of it being used in industries that are already female-heavy. Having said that, I am against affirmative action. Might be naive but just treat everyone the same and give the job to the best candidate overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 01:44 PM
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I think the issues are a bit different. In the past, women legally weren't allowed into college, so we fought for the right to do it. The same with voting and being allowed to do certain jobs. This really was more to do with patriarchy and oppression because we had to overcome solid legal barriers. Men have every right to go to college and do certain jobs, however things like culture and the education system are holding them back. We all reinforce the terrible gender stereotypes that make things…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 11:56 AM
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Couldn't have put it better myself!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 11:14 AM
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Hi, Thankyou for your detailed and also not hostile response. I like debating too! I think as a sort of sci-fi dark sense of humour girl this stuff doesn't apply to any sexual encounters or relationships I've had. They've all been very much based on having a laugh with a mate and I can honestly say I've pursued guys as much as they've pursued me. Swings and roundabouts, we're all confident people who happen to have been born with different genitals. If guys are very alpha or even textbook-good-l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 08:53 PM
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Interesting- so you are an 'alpha' and it really gets you laid? And you're asking how 'beta's' or blue pillers feel about that basically? I really don't agree with your theories but I'm staggered at how detailed the thinking is. Sexual capitol, agendas and strategies and all that stuff. I just like to meet people and if we click we might have sex or a relationship! I think there are glimmers where I can kind of see what you're saying but in a totally different way. For example, I agree it's anno…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 12:12 PM
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I'm really curious about whether Red Pill techniques are actually working for you- you haven't specified that and I think it's really crucial to the whole debate. If RP techniques are currently getting you laid- well good for you. I guess the Blue Pill solution is to keep using your pickup tricks or whatever whilst empathising with women and considering them as equals. They are sleeping with you because they want to. If RP techniques are not currently getting you laid, which I strongly suspect t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 11:48 AM
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Surely it was the white men in charge of hiring that you should blame, not the women who got hired.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 09:26 AM
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I think you're right, and the term 'feminism' should be changed to something more rooted in 'equality.' Women don't want to subjugate men or anything, we just want a fair society. There will always be nut-jobs who take things too far, not to mention those who remember the undeniably sexist world of yesteryear and struggle to sympathise, but make no mistake, 'feminism' is about equality. I was really pleased to see a men's rights sub because I also agree that it is important to tackle male gender…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 11:24 PM
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Is the absurdity of this lost on everyone or just yourself? What is the point in either gender fighting for 'rights' if they are opposed to their opposite gender counterparts who are also fighting for fair rights? "Feminism is in opposition to men's rights," sounds like two warring factions not seeking a fair society but trying to gain advantages at the expense of the other. Isn't the end point a fair, just and equal society? Isn't that what men's rights and women's rights are both trying to ach…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 11:00 PM
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What's that got to do with the price of fish? -Do you mean that to be a feminist you have to believe in sexism? There is still sexism, especially if you look at the whole of human society. Making a lot of progress in the West though, right? True most senior positions and political power are still held by men, but we all have equal rights now and that's a good thing, right? I'm really curious what you mean by 'believe in the patriarchy?'
/r/MensRights29/01/14 09:01 PM
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I'm really sorry for your experience. Feminism just means striving for equality between the sexes, it should be a two-way street and I'd hate to think anyone thought feminism was in opposition to men's rights! How hypocritical would that be?!?! Don't give up on striving for equality.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 08:48 PM
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Actually I just like the sensation of a penis going inside my vagina...
/r/seduction04/11/13 01:01 PM
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What is KINO? Even google doesn't know. And good luck. Edit: It means touching, for anyone else who's curious.
/r/seduction23/10/13 12:17 PM
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There's a massive double standard here. It's considered normal for men to have a promiscuous phase then choose to 'settle down.' Should be the same for women. In some cases, sure, women are promiscuous because of deep seated issues and insecurities, which themselves might cause problems, most of the time though it is because they are human beings with genitals and sex drives- Surely a woman with a strong sex drive is great marriage material? I'd be promiscuous if I was attractive enough, I think…
/r/seduction23/10/13 09:45 AM
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