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| 0 | Men have it easy .../sNo, there are a multitude of reasons why cases are dismissed not due to "merit". It's not law, google the equal pay act and the actual document will state is isn't law. It provides clarity. Your first quote is in regards to .77/1.00 and is valid in some ways. Though it just proves other massive sexist things like pushing women into pink collar jobs. It also proves my point with the "raw gap" aspect. All it's saying is we need more research. So thanks! Literally provided you with peer reviewed ar… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 06:38 PM |
| 0 | Men have it easy .../sOne, a tiny percentage of gender discrimination suits are litigated by the EEOC, so you can try, but you'll probably have to go at it on your own. That's why most women doesn't file. The equal pay act is not law. It's more of a suggestion and gender is not included in federal anti-discrimination law. Please provide me one peer reviewed article where economists have conclusively stated the wage gap doesn't exist. I work in children services. I make sure that in employment considerations, gender i… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 05:08 PM |
| 0 | Men have it easy .../sWhat proof? Where in this conversation did you bring empirical data? Misandry being present in the world isn't proof that the wage gap doesn't exist. Not to mention, I agreed with you on that front, I just don't know a lot about systemic biases against men. I also mentioned implicit bias and how I have them too. That ties in with "enjoying benevolent sexism". Those things happen and need to change, but don't have relevance in the wage gap conversation. It ain't nonsense, psychology has shown thi… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 04:48 PM |
| 0 | Men have it easy .../shere Lol, I'm not lying, here's just one example. You can choose to believe me or not. You can choose to look at the data or not. That's up to you, though it honestly is super disheartening that it's so common to ignore the data. Not just now, but across literally all subjects. I implore you to look at the data. They don't hire women because the view women, implicitly, as less than. Misandry is hatred toward men, an example of that would be purposefully voting for only women because they're wome… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 04:09 PM |
| -1 | Men have it easy .../sIn that regard is has to be widespread, from top to bottom for the state to sue on your behalf, not a single case of gender discrimination. I'd like an example of how I'm being childish. I'm just trying to use empirical data to show you that the gap exists, so if that's a tantrum, then like cool, I guess. The pay gap hasn't been debunked by economists. I'd recommend going onto google scholar (will weed out any non peer reviewed studies for you) and it'll show all the studies that continually sho… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 02:30 PM |
| -1 | Men have it easy .../sOne, I don't think men are evil. Wealthy people who run companies aren't evil. They do this due to deeply ingrained sexism. Most of it is implicit bias. This is also why women probably aren't hired over men, because sometimes people have implicit biases that drive them to pay men more (ie always taught and seen men are inherently more valuable. It's important to note that this bias exists across genders/race/etc.) Not because they're inherently evil or vindictive. They are just acting on implici… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Men have it easy .../sI mean cool and that would be great if you are finically able to be spend $100,000 on legal fees for the $23,000**. However most people can't, they deserve the $23,000 without having to spend their life savings to get it. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 01:58 PM |
| -1 | Men have it easy .../sIt's because women just want to be paid the same and keep their jobs. They don't want to spend legal fees to sue a company that she may not win (not due to the facts of the case but a multitude of other reasons) and then continue to work there. Do a simple cost benefit analysis, being paid $10,000/year when you have all the same incoming factors is just not worth suing for. Just. Pay. Them. The. Same. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 01:46 PM |
| -1 | Men have it easy .../sYou would measure exactly how the company measures it. In sales? Number of sales. Lawyer? Number of billable hours on specific types of cases. Women shouldn't be paid more than men, they should be paid the same for the same work. And that's an oxymoron. The higher ups hold 100% control, usually aren't impartial, and aren't forced to give raises, so it doesn't work like that. This is why we need government intervention to make sure that the woman will get her raise, as men do, when she has all th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 01:26 PM |
| 0 | Men have it easy .../sWhich is why in studies beyond the one that pulled the .77/1.00 take performance into consideration now. Side note: it's a testament to your thought process if you think men perform better than women, in the same job, so consistently it explains an ever present wage gap. Almost like you think women just aren't as good at the same jobs... | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 05:32 AM |
| 0 | Men have it easy .../sUnfortunately the empirical and peer review data repeatedly shows it does. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 05:15 AM |
| -2 | Men have it easy .../sOne, there have been numerous studies of using a male name and female name (controlling for race/ethnicity) with the exact same experience and education and in the private sector, the male candidate is statistically significantly more likely to be hired over the female. Two, when you're running a statistical analysis on existing data (instead of an experiment like above) you cannot have two factors be perfectly equal because humans aren't identical. We're talking statistical analyses of: two peo… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 05:11 AM |
| -7 | Men have it easy .../sOkay, sorry you're correct (just googled it) in the .77 on the dollar specific statistic (it came from a single meta-analysis comparing the median income of all women and all men working full-time all year). However, the gender pay-gap goes substantially beyond this single statistic in that it exists within jobs too. You're right about the single stat, which raises more wide spread issues in women being socialized to take "pink-collar" jobs, which typically pay less. However, my point (and my fa… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 04:58 AM |
| -17 | Men have it easy .../sWhen they say 0.77 on the dollar, they mean women and men in the same job with similar education and experience. Obviously different fields are going to to get paid differently. We, meaning feminists, aren't talking across fields because obviously different pay levels would be indicative of difficulty not gender. We are only talking about the payment within the same job. Stop trying to dilute a message to demonize a theory supported by decades of data. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/20 04:16 AM |
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