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My opinion of TBP is that they could seriously debunk TRP's sidebar if they wanted, but instead they focus on laughing at all the lonely dudes who turn to it. Fuck that subreddit; I wouldn't be surprised if their scorn has contributed to the anger and extremism that shows up on TRP.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/16 09:58 AM
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Got it. I'll tell everyone I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 02:36 AM
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Triple bypass is now a type of heart attack. Spread the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 02:33 AM
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This might answer /u/chasingstatues' question too. Here's the thread. This (removed) comment set off a bit of a shitstorm when it got crossposted to the main sub. Several TRP regulars thought that it had somewhat valid points and wanted to see if they could debunk it. The mods of TRP didn't like this and after administering the banhammer they told /u/theubercuber, the head mod of /r/redpilldebate, that he should indefinitely restrict submissions to /r/redpilldebate. /r/theubercuber did, and also…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:32 PM
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This post made me doubt the factual accuracy of the worldview I was starting to get from TRP. Other than that, not really. A lot of the people who come here from TBP just build strawmen to tear down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 09:43 PM
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Never? 2 of the flairs (Theory and Field Report) are terms from science. Another flair is Science. 'Nature', and 'biology' are used like buzzwords. A significant portion of it is based on evolutionary psychology. Evolutionary psychology had been criticized a lot for being pseudoscience before TRP even existed. Psuedoscientific claims about biology show up in Of Love and War, Schedules of Mating, Relationships, the Red Pill, and You, Women, the Most Responsible Teenager in the House, and Sexual U…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 05:49 PM
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Every person you're arguing with agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 05:07 PM
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Dude, nobody in this thread is saying TRP is anything like science. They're comparing it to pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 07:23 AM
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Maybe I'm a little confused, but wouldn't the modern understanding of neuroplasticity and epigenetics work better as an argument for why people's minds continue developing? It seems here you're suggesting athat neuroplasticity and epigenetics explain a lack of change in someone's mind over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 07:16 AM
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I don't disagree with you. The only problem I ever have with powertalk in TRP is when it is used in a motte-and-bailey sort of way, or when a bad writer misuses it and obscures his own meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 01:25 AM
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Did you see the thread about Shakespeare being full redpilled?
/r/ExRedPill14/02/16 07:24 PM
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That's gotta be the spergiest way anybody has ever written the phrase "America's pastime".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:52 PM
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Except for the hyperbole, the heuristics, and the stuff that's not always taken literally. That's not straight talk. That's got the plausible deniability of powertalk. Edit: there was a word missing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 01:11 PM
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Comments and threads on reddit that challenged the factual accuracy of TRP and its sidebar 1 Someone went to /r/askscience with a question about the view of anger that is predominant on TRP 2 Anecdotes solipsism and hamsters. Probably the best criticism of TRP's sloppy methods for determining truth I've seen 3 Post about periods and mating strategies 4 /r/askscience thread: How accurate is the Kubler-Ross (5 stages of grief) model 5 What is TRP wrong about specifically? 6 TRP apologist getting s…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/16 07:24 AM
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most successful mutations originated in males and women simply hijacked them. I'm a little confused. How can you tell what sex an autosomal mutation originated in?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:37 PM
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I'm sorta red and agreed with a lot of what you said, but you made all of the following assertions (none of which are backed up by the stuff in OP's post) without pointing to evidence. the overwhelming majority of women are anxious and nervous, this is part of female biology. When ancient tribes would attack one another, they literally hunted for women. the vast majority of women, who view their interaction with the world through how a stimuli affects their emotions. With birth control available…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 03:57 AM
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so all evidence points to You didn't mention any piece of evidence in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:18 AM
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The only problem I have with this post is that AWALT is not often taken literally on TRP.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/16 01:50 PM
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I created this account and erased my old account to work on a similar project, but I stopped because TRP used to be a huge part of my life and the project was emotionally exhausting. Anyways, in order to avoid cherry-picking, I recommend you stick to debunking stuff that's either in the sidebar, or in the stickied thread archive buried in the sidebar. You should also stick with specific, clear claims. If they're falsifieble, that's even better. I've assembled some of the specific, possibly debun…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/16 04:08 AM
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I don't know. He's been around for a long time, but I mostly just know Whisper as the guy who came up with the anger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 09:05 PM
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/r/theredpill was founded by /u/pk_atheist who then left and turned the community over to RPS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 06:03 PM
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That's not evidence. Unless there's a bunch of gravesites where it's obvious the prehistoric men died in the middle of a woman-hunt, you are using a just-so story to back up the claim. Also, why would a tendency to bond with captors make someone more egocentric? Once again, not evidence. You're just summarizing one of the claims that I would like to see data about. You've got a good point on this one. You just summarized the evo psych and responsible teenager ideas I'm referrencing, but failed t…
/r/ExRedPill24/12/15 11:21 PM
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Here are some of the questions that led to me rejecting TRP. Tell me if you think the stuff I questioned was part of the anger phase: This is something Xemnas brought up in /r/purplepilldebate a while back. What evidence is there that solipsism is a survival instinct, and not just something learned? I mean, both options sound pretty reasonable but Rollo asserts it's a survival mechanism in the Rational Male. What data is he drawing that conclusion from? similar question for the claims made in Me…
/r/ExRedPill24/12/15 01:24 PM
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Why do you think exredpillers have a caricature strawman view of TRP? I agree with you that most BP posters present a strawman of /r/theredpill, but suspect that the vast majority of them are not exredpillers.
/r/ExRedPill24/12/15 06:52 AM
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That might be the funniest thing I've seen on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:08 AM
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Where are they gonna get the funding to test the DNA? Most police departments don't sell as many t-shirts as you, and lab shit is expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 05:03 PM
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It might be loosely-related to the current stickied TRPpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 05:24 PM
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Even in our basic biology, the penis is much easier to insert into the vagina than the vagina is to wrap around. Wat. You can't insert a penis into a vagina without the vagina wrapping around. You can't wrap a vagina around a penis without inserting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 05:21 PM
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Thank you for the concise answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 12:47 AM
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Is feminism frequently portrayed as a route to getting pussy? I'm not asking rhetorically; my knowledge of feminism as a movement is fairly limited and I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 12:37 AM
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TRP is Sexual Strategy, not self-improvement.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/15 02:13 AM
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I don't know if I actually count as BP, but I don't think TRP advocates an accurate view of the world. SMP: definitely acknowledge it SMV: definitely acknowledge it AF/BB: definitely acknowledge that it happens, but think it gets exaggerated to hell and back by the anger-phasers and intentionally-inflammatory posts. CC: never really seen any evidence that this is female-exclusive. A lot of attractive dudes hop on a pussy carousel in college and then settle down later. Hypergamy: There are tons o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 11:41 PM
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That joke went way over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 07:38 PM
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/u/Xemnas81 doesn't need things like evidence and citations because /u/Xemnas81 is not and has never claimed to be scientific /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 06:54 PM
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Even more ironically, it sounds a hell of a lot like an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:48 PM
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Yeah, like I said in my original comment: This is one of the more politically-incorrect facets of mainstream psychology because it calls into question how reliable eyewitness reports are. Elizabeth Loftus, one of the main researchers behind false memories, has been called in as an expert witness in court cases to defend against false allegations of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 10:07 PM
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It was a gradual accumulation of doubts, so it's hard to narrow it down to just a few specific things that changed my mind. One of the last straws or whatever was when someone brought up the placebo effect in the context of TRP. At that point, I had already come to the conclusion that a lot of the underlying theory was unsupported by hard evidence, but I still trusted TRP because I noticed a lot more positive attention from women after reading the sidebar, joining a gym, and figuring out what ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 09:50 PM
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Can't speak for everyone, but here's my reasoning. I usually exaggerate/editorialize to some degree when telling friends about chicks I've hooked up with. Most of my friends do so too. I've noticed most people have a tendency to tell personal stories as if they're the protagonist, which distorts things. People make stuff up on the internet. There's a reason "pics or it didn't happen" is such a common heuristic on forums. Some (a minority) of the field reports are actually quite ridiculous. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 08:23 PM
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/fit/ on 4chan is a pretty anarchic. It is on 4chan, so there's a lot of inside jokes and broscience, and it's pretty much just about food and exercise, but there's a pretty strong community vibe to it.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/15 06:14 PM
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If he was only in it briefly then it's possible that he didn't see all of TRP. The sidebar's organized so that the first few links are subreddit rules. The next four or so describe problems men face in dating and society. The stuff people usually find objectionable about TRP's ideology, like the blog post about women being teenagers mentally, really doesn't show up in any detail until partway through the theory reading part of the sidebar. If he only read part of the sidebar, he may have thought…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:53 AM
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I would still be using my TRP account if I didn't care about truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 06:20 AM
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If you pick up just about any textbook on genetics or evolution, you'll find a list of 5 processes that lead to evolution, usually referred to as "the 5 forces of evolution". They are, in no particular order. Natural selection Nonrandom mating/sexual selection Genetic drift Gene flow Mutation So, if we're not being ridiculously pedantic, then you're right, and just about every biologist in the world agrees with you. If we are being ridiculously pedantic, you're wrong because sexual competition i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:32 AM
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Internet Rule 24: Pics or It Didn't Happen People make stories up on the internet pretty frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:20 PM
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Yeah women like sex, and a lot of posters on TRP are angry enough to sound like idiots. I think most of this subreddit is aware of those things Also, your story sounds made-up, but if it's true you should help your friend get more attractive. Work out with him, or shop with him, or at the very least get him into more social settings so he doesn't have to trust so much of his dick's happiness to a group of ranting strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:34 AM
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RP minus the anti-fem anger and theoretical conjecture Towards the end of my transition out of TRP I reread through the entire sidebar of the main subreddit (including the archive of stickied threads) and took notes. I'm not sure what motivated me to do that, but it's what I did. Literally every link in the New Here? and Theory Reading sections is some combination of anti-feminism and theoretical conjecture. The only links on that sidebar with similar content to that comment are relegated to Ref…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/15 01:37 AM
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Dread game in this situation is passive-aggressive as fuck. If OP wants to let his wife see the forest for the trees he'd get a lot more done in a much shorter period of time by straight-up telling her he's considering divorce in a year. What advantage does a grown man get by pulling some slowly-escalating Mean Girls bullshit when he could just confront his wife about their problems?
/r/ExRedPill22/10/15 01:11 AM
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reddit.com/r/redpillwomen
/r/ExRedPill22/10/15 01:00 AM
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This post is a month old. You don't think we already fucked?
/r/ExRedPill22/10/15 12:59 AM
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Posts like this are fun occasionally, but I hope this sub doesn't ever turn into a circlejerk based around mocking people who are still in TRP.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/15 02:44 PM
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Do you have any ideas on how best to bring the topic up with him? I think it might be a hard sell. Unfortunately no. I don't know your husband and I'm real good at accidentally making things weird and uncomfortable, which is a big part of what got me into theredpill.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/15 10:44 PM
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I think therapy (either couple's therapy or individual) might be helpful for the situation y'all are in. These are the reasons why: I think most guys (including myself) who have gotten into the red pill have been in a dark place mentally or emotionally at the time. I definitely could have used some help from somebody more knowledgable than a herd of pickup artists and bloggers during my redpill phase. If he's really trying to improve himself, getting help from a professional surely can't hurt. S…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/15 10:06 PM
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You're not the first one to notice this particular type of hamstering in defense of TRP. TBP's comments usually aren't too insightful, but this guy summarized this type of rationalization pretty well. "There is no failure condition. If you get a slice of dat poon tang, you have succeeded. If you don't get a slice of dat poon tang, you still rationalize your way into a success condition. (She was a feminazi anyway. I'm too good for her. She doesn't deserve me. She's been poisoned by "politically …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:37 AM
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That's pretty messed up.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/15 03:48 AM
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this comment was originally made to this thread. As you can see, it has since been deleted from its original context, but the responses were left up. After it was on /r/redpilldebate for a couple hours, a redpiller named /u/prado- crossposted the comment to theredpill hoping someone would be able to debunk it (here are some screenshots). Instead of debunking it, almost everything got deleted and the mods pressured the redpill mod of redpilldebate, /u/theubercuber, to shut it down. here's the thr…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/15 04:59 PM
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If you want to see why people have left the Red Pill subreddit, you might want to check out /r/exredpill. Most of the posts there are dudes talking about why they quit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:49 PM
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what led you out of theredpill? Was it primarily the results from following their advice, or were there other significant factors?
/r/ExRedPill04/09/15 08:46 PM
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If I could give you a hug over the internet I would, dude. I think I've been through some of the sames stuff, or at least similar stuff. I really hope this sub picks up a bit more because I think it has the potential to help redpillers the way TBP helped you. Congrats on breaking out of The Red Pill.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/15 01:14 PM
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every time i would glance at a title of a post ("why women need to be controlled" for example) i would just get pissed off and then try to exhaust my emotions by making excuses as to why i should agree [with the post]. Sounds like cognitive dissonance.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/15 02:33 AM
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Please post it on this sub when you finish it. That's the type of post I'd look forward to seeing on here.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/15 02:03 AM
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