TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

give_me_shinies Archive

View 0 posts and 2,424 comments by give_me_shinies on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Upvotes Title Category Author Subreddit Date (UTC)
Showing the 1,000 most recent of 2,424 comments.
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
3

She specified non-sexual submission tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 10:55 AM
5

Women are, by far, the main instigators of violence. Hahahaha. I’m guessing homicide and assault statistics the world over are a feminist conspiracy then. Cat fights n women hitting each other is also used for comedic effect in films n tv, probably bc female violence rarely results in death or serious injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:13 AM
2

Right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:38 AM
2

He's a self-identified feminist...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:32 PM
3

Wat? Obama was on the cover of Ms. Magazine in 2009, he courted feminists from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:33 PM
2

crickets
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:08 AM
1

Yes, men absolutely do fear women's autonomy hence all your ranting about sluts, single mothers, 4 divorces, blah blah n the necessity of "protecting" women who don't want to be protected. It's fear bc they know women literally have the means of production in their bodies n for ions men have sought to control that; Freud was so wrong about penis envy, its the opposite. Men have unilateral no fault divorce in Islam (it can be done by text message!), women have to have a reason n beg a judge for o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 02:17 PM
1

The right to choose who you marry, the right to divorce, the right to earn your own living, the right to be free from domestic violence, the right to be an adult who doesn't require a male guardian. I could go on. None of these are for "protection", they're for control bc men are afraid of women's autonomy. Prisoners are not "protected". Are you one of those retarded "he beats you bc he loves you" ppl?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:03 AM
1

Lol at "shaming". It's kinda odd that they picked on this one dude, I'll give you that. But he is a perfect caricature of everything ppl who read salon would find objectionable. Ooh, it's "shaming" to point out that whining about "lack of sympathy for skinny ppl" is dumb. Give me a break. "Shaming" is an esp. dumb complaint since the dude's argument is largely based on him taking weird personal offence. The same article referenced a campaign/poster/something in Canada where they noted a 10% decr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 12:47 PM
1

I didn't realise wanting autonomy n capacity to make decisions for yourself = "freedom to be a whore". You have no idea what you're talking about. At least go read something n educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 12:26 PM
1

Girls hold off on sleeping with guys they're attracted to n want something more with to avoid being put in that guy's slut/FWB pile all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 05:20 AM
1

it helps shaping an extremely anti-male political framework. I always lol at this. I'm of the "don't get drunk alone with unrelated men period, incl. male friends" camp n to treat all guns like they're loaded. Some feminists would call that living in a "rape culture, MRAs cry it's "misandry" n "#not all men". Also, where's the witch hunt in your first article? The idea that rapists have a distinct look is incorrect n dangerous. Not sure what affirmative consent has to do with mattress girl, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 05:09 AM
1

Oh you "know" patriarchal societies. How cute. I'm from a Muslim background n have lived in these communities all my life. If being "protected" in this manner were so awesome, it wouldn't be imposed on pain of social or actual death. In Saudi Arabia, clergy openly say that allowing women to drive or removing male guardianship will lead to female promiscuity. In fact, a lot of Islamic cultural norms surrounding women's "protection" don't apply to old (read sexually undesirable) women. I wonder wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 05:01 AM
1

Yes, but for a lot of men there's also the thought of "she a slut/crazy/unsuitable for commitment" which for a lot of women is a powerful disincentive against that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:16 AM
2

It's exactly like you said. They can't stand other ppl "shaming" or disagreeing with or criticising them. That's their real problem. The internet is full of men ranting about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:56 AM
3

Yes, v few accusations make it to trial n not many of those result in guilty verdicts. It's v hard to get convictions for exactly this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:43 AM
2

So what's the point of this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:33 AM
1

Red pill virtue signalling obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:44 AM
3

How does her being stupid make the rape less of a crime n the rapist less of a criminal? Or do you believe stupid ppl are fair game n shouldn't have the same right to report crimes against them as other ppl?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:58 AM
4

Except men determine which "protections" are needed n they NEVER EVER want to switch places, or be "protected" instead. It's all about control, in a lot of those cultures men will kill a sister/daughter/niece who steps out of line, so much for "protection".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:57 AM
4

So what's the issue? Is reporting a crime like "crying to daddy with the shotgun"? Is your lot arguing rapists shouldn't be punished bc bitches be stupid or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:52 AM
2

Why is the bar association against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 06:46 AM
4

What's there to "get"? All he's saying is that he hasn't experienced these nuclear rejections n malicious treatment from women TRPers say is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 06:43 AM
7

Are all the ppl demanding examples unfamiliar with the manosphere or what? Any woman who says anything they don't like is accused of being a lonely fat slut with 250 cats n a dildo collection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:29 AM
3

"Muh shaming" is such BS. Slut shaming, virgin shaming, creep shaming, blah blah. Who cares about "shaming"? Some ppl are gonna think your behaviour/choices/whatever is bad or degenerate or uptight or whatever. But what are they gonna do other than say mean words? These babies need to be dropped into a society where shame that can destroy your life is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:25 AM
3

I honestly think women who hang out in those communities n suck up to these men have serious issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:24 AM
6

What in the world 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:01 AM
3

verbally menstruate wat
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:13 AM
1

Drooling over the pics of all the hot girls from class isn't "commitment" lol. Why would erotic fantasy be "realistic"? You think women should google "cubicle jockey", "men with $20,000 in student debt", or something lol. Finding billionaires, pirates or whatever sexy has nothing to do with self-perceived "worth". Men of all ages n attractiveness levels desire 20 year olds, their top searches are "teen", "MILF", etc. Nothing "average" about porn starlets either. Does that mean men are "unrealist…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 09:17 AM
1

The v idea that foetuses are "babies" being "murdered" is novel. The romans were western, changelings were a European phenomenon n those were actual live babies. You've got it backwards, moralising over abortion became widespread after medical tech n knowledge about fetal development improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 10:25 AM
1

It doesn't matter what they "could" do, what matters is what's actually happening. Everybody could buy a $2000 Detroit house too, but then they wouldn't cost $2000 anymore. In LTRs, you don't usually see fat ugly women with v attractive men bc that market isn't so skewed by male surplus/female scarcity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 06:21 AM
2

Most women aren't insta models who have "armies of betas". How would that even be possible mathematically? It's either a small % of girls have lots of orbiters or guys orbit lots of girls at once. They don't want women to hide in a hole but rather to be realistic. What does that even mean? Realistic about what? you p much just confirmed that they're jealous bc women get complimented more than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 06:16 AM
3

That's fine that you don't want to commit to a slut, that doesn't really say anything about it being immoral or wrong or whatever. Anyone can have any preferences they want, who cares what anyone says? Men having their sexual "needs" met implies some duty on the part of women to have sex with men they don't want to have sex with; that's why ppl, esp. the targets of these "needs" (women), find it icky. Prostitution, coercion n human trafficking go hand in hand, this is becoming more n more clear.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 04:25 AM
2

Nope, modern ppl fret about abortion a lot more than the ancients did n in places like China it's still nbd at all, smothering newborns just bc they're girls n it's inconvenient is also still a thing in parts of the world. I'm also almost certain that abortion is more common among low SES unmarried young women, just like it's always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 01:20 AM
1

Fat, ugly women can get railed by v attractive men from Craigslist/tinder/whatever bc women are scarce n in v high demand in the market for strange dick. If there were lots of women doing this, it wouldn't be so easy. Do you think the fat ugly women who sleep with hot strangers could marry them, or even be seen in public with them? Why, or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 01:14 AM
2

Cheap Detroit real estate is cheap n affordable for most ppl bc supply/demand. Casual sex with strangers is "cheap" n easily attainable for most women bc supply/demand. Why do you think unattractive women can easily have casual sex with Greek gods? Why is it to so easy for women to get casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 04:44 PM
3

You understand it's so easy for women to get casual sex with hot strangers bc of supply/demand, right? There's 1297 men offering strange dick for every 1 woman who is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:41 PM
1

So you're not red pill after all? Nobody is "educating" women that "what men have to offer is worthless". Eggs are dear, sperm is cheap. Fact. Nobody has to "teach" men to not want to share their women, its innate. Sexual jealousy is a cultural universal. Fact. You can do whatever others allow you to do. Yeah that's what freedom is. Other ppl are also free. Men's desires are always going to hit the brick wall that is women's freedom. That's the "gynocentrism" you keep talking about. No amount of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:12 PM
4

my point is that foetuses n even newborns were never seen as completely human (unlike say a 5 month old or a toddler) to begin with; this isn't some novel thing created by the pro choice movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:42 PM
1

Idk what to say to you dude. Ima do me. I don't care about male imperative. I care about me. This is how most ppl work. If what you want is not accessible to you, that's your problem. Why don't you go ask some poly ppl or swingers how they got in it n where to go about finding partners? Ppl in the west are taught to do whatever they want n that's exactly what they do. Any free system will be "gynocentric" bc it would require women's consent n freedom n not a lot of women would choose poly so men…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:31 PM
2

Avfm used to do this thing where they'd send a bunch of ppl to spam rape hotlines n DV websites so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:01 PM
1

Women on Twox say they'd call the cops if a male stranger asked them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 10:40 AM
1

That's the most popular theory n it's in line with how a lot of modern hunter-gatherer tribes operate. There was likely plenty of extra-pair mating n that's how sexual jealousy n mate guarding evolved; hunter-gatherer tribes also tended to be relatively egalitarian. It's actually not so different from the modern west in a lot of ways. Those monogamous "old world" societies, just like the polygamous ones, were patriarchies with huge power differentials bw the sexes. Lol male oppression. Who said …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 10:25 AM
1

Yes, they say it's creepy. What do cops have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 10:13 AM
2

There's 12987 average men offering strange dick for every woman who wants it online so it's as scarce n valuable as those $2000 Detroit houses. Everyone is going to take the best they can get n take advantage of whatever privileges they have. If women are flooded with offers of casual sex, why not go for the hottest option? It'd be irrational not to. Why is being a "super slut" a bad thing? What are they getting away with? Why is abstaining a good thing? I also don't get all this weird talk of "…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 10:08 AM
1

The idea that women in LTRs aren't tempted n that novelty doesn't invigorate female desire is p BP. Everybody does what they want. Like I said, pre-civilisation (which is like 90+% of human history) when the sexes were much more equal, serial social monogamy was the norm. What TRP sees as natural male sexuality only really emerged (n was only available to a minority of men even then) post-agriculture n post-patriarchy. It's impossible to achieve without oppression of women, which is why women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 06:46 AM
7

Have you ever hung out in a group of women? It's all "omg these jeans make me look so fat!", "no you're gorgeous", "wow, that eye shadow really brings out your eye colour!", "where did you get those shoes?" IME, whenever a (normal, non insta model) girl posts a pic, its mostly other girls liking n commenting. Yet young women are riddled with self-esteem issues n insecurity. I think a lot of men just get mad that women they perceive as beneath them dare to exist, post pics n get compliments n don…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 06:32 AM
3

This environment exists for every non-deformed woman with a smartphone, yet blue pillers still buy self-reported survey data that says most women just sleep with a handful of men throughout their lives. The fact that it's so easy for women demonstrates that there's a lot less women relative to men who are interested in that scene; this is like saying there's lots of super cheap real estate in Detroit, are you serious no one would jump at the chance to own 10 houses?!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 06:11 AM
1

You said asking out all women who express interest in you is a good way to get the cops after you. based on the narrative on reddit by what women say, if one was stupid enough to follow it, which men approaching them is creepy. I.e., women say men approaching them is creepy, this means if you approach women, according to women, cops will come after you. It's a big leap from a lot of women say "that's creepy" to "immediate danger, call 911".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 05:55 AM
2

Yeah, a lot of incels seem to think female empathy will lead to pity sex or something; v weird mindset, but I see men here whining that women don't understand or empathise with their "needs" (desire for lots of hot young women) as if women would alter their behaviour to men's benefit if they did. It's true that most men don't care, my bf n brothers think MRAs are as hilarious as SJWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 04:53 AM
1

Yes, women say it's creepy, not that they'd call the cops, which was your initial claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 04:37 AM
4

There was this abortifacient herb in Ancient Rome that the Romans used so much it went extinct; baby farming n infanticide were rife in Victorian England; it's been theorised that changelings were a way for families to dispose of sickly newborns, n in many many cultures, newborns would be killed in periods of famine. Looks like it was always p common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 04:34 AM
1

They say it's creepy, not that they'd call the cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:59 AM
6

So, why this fixation with demanding empathy from women? If men don't even give a fuck about each other despite sharing gendered experiences n perspectives, how is it reasonable to demand women should? So weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:55 AM
5

No, abortion n even neonaticide have always existed in most cultures, humans have always regarded fetuses n neonates as less than human n distinct from older infants n children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:26 AM
4

In your own words, the average guy is "chubby", "doesn't work full time," and is $30K in debt. I'm sure women are just lining up for him! The average woman is in a similar boat. Do you ever go out n look at all the couples you see? Nobody said "average" means having hotties line up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:23 AM
1

What's a roastie?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:13 AM
3

Most men are obvs turned on by the ott screaming, otherwise it wouldn't be the norm in porn, so you're definitely not alone there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 05:53 PM
9

For me, vocalising is involuntary quiet moans n gasps when I can't help myself bc it's that good, not literal screaming that sounds indistinguishable from a woman in labour. Porn doesn't look like women expressing pleasure, at least not to a lot of women; it looks like women putting on a show (which is what it is). Obvs women who aren't masochistic are likely the ones who look at porn n are horrified n disgusted by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 05:38 PM
11

I think it's the "enthusiasm", in the form of hysterical screaming, for sex acts that seem painful n unpleasant that puts women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 04:55 PM
1

Women on here say they'd call the cops on a guy asking them out? I've never seen that, it's actually paranoid incels n TRPers who say that looking at a woman the wrong way will get you hauled off to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:59 AM
2

Yes x 100. How could supposedly "red pilled" men not understand this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 06:16 AM
1

wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 05:54 AM
1

Nothing too surprising isn't it? No, that's completely mainstream. The Coolidge effect, "boys only want one thing", etc. Everyone knows this. Apparently including your mother n sisters. There's a lot of research n data about women's desire decreasing in long-term relationships; why do you think NRE, honeymoon phase n serial monogamy are things? You sound really "blue pill" about female sexuality… Ppl are free to enter whatever arrangements they want; women "understanding" or sympathising or what…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 05:38 AM
1

Because that's not really what it is about So what is it about then? Explain it, be v specific. So, it's not encouraged nor celebrated if women have insufficient interest. :) Casual sex is pushed by sex positive feminists n men as empowering n fun n a lot of women love it n indulge…however, not enough women do it for long enough n often enough for it to be the default or easily attainable for most men. Players don't get anywhere near the level of derision as sluts n ppl who frown on promiscuity …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 11:58 AM
1

Well that's the problem, she's grossed out and uncomfortable, she shouldn't. Most women would be grossed out by "hey babe, I constantly want to fuck teens. I don't plan to act on it, but I just thought you should know". What's the point of sharing that? Most men wouldn't like it either if their wife went on n on about how hot the gym instructor or some guy at the office is or how she fantasises about some romance novel hunk having his way with her. That is not immoral now, that is still very har…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 08:08 AM
4

TERFS are actually v "red pill" about men in a lot of ways n RPW probably lean conservative on sex/gender so they have the anti-trans thing in common too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 02:12 PM
2

Idc about "shaming". Boo hoo if you feel ashamed bc of other ppl's opinions. What do I gain from me telling how I am to wife? A lot. Like what? Most likely she'll just be grossed out n uncomfortable n you'd be nowhere closer to satiating your poly "nature". Dumping someone whenever you want satisfies hypergamy, which isn't very strong in men compared to polygamy. Didn't we both just agree that men don't mate for life? The desire for novelty n variety involves dumping old women for new ones. Dump…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 12:50 PM
1

Ickystickypoo said: Assistance to women is mostly given because of their children. You said: And because they are women. Implying women get assistance "because they're women". I said there's no welfare for women, which is true, there's welfare for poor, disabled, single parents, etc; there's no assistance for women "because they're women". Why are you backtracking? Food stamps are for poor ppl, not for women "because they're women".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 04:58 AM
1

How am I "ragging" on anyone? If Jews n Asians came on here saying they were victims, I'd tell them to get real too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 11:58 PM
3

Yeah n DNA says misattributed paternity is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:27 PM
2

It's not the mythical Chadly 20% that fuels demand for porn, the sex industry, n the general pornification of the culture. What's the point of a man schooling his wife on "muh natural male sexuality"? Women know men watch all manner of gross porn, look at other women, jack off to teens their whole lives, etc. If she's not open to poly, what does anyone gain from him telling her all about his constant desire to fuck others? I don't get it. Men aren't lifelong monogamists either; ever heard "behin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:09 PM
3

If, however, we gave a lot of young men a brothel pass for once a month (or however long) they wouldn't need to live in frustration. Wat. There's always been jerking off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 01:46 PM
1

Poor ppl of either sex are able to get food stamps, it's not a program "for women". I'm still waiting for you to name the mythical gov handouts childless able-bodied women get "for being women".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 01:39 PM
1

Why is that wrong? "nobody put a gun on the girl's head" Bc teen girls just discovering sex are the same as adult men 🙄 anyway "wrong" has nothing to do with it, it demonstrates how male sexuality is indulged n catered to in the culture. a woman that does not consider that understanding her man and improving is part of her marital duties. Having sex with others is part of her marital duties? Wat. Maybe in France… Where is the woman suppressing her nature exactly? By literally putting all her egg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 01:25 PM
1

Nope. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 10:34 AM
2

free hd porn, pornified pop culture that caters to the male gaze, glorification of casual sex, but still "muh oppressed male sexuality". Yeah no. Teen boys ask girls for anal n threesomes in 2017. Lifelong monogamy isn't "natural" n involves both parties agreeing to suppress their "nature". That's what he signed up for. Nobody put a gun to his head n forced him to vow to forsake all others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 10:29 AM
1

I never said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:38 PM
1

Ok, so the point is they feel like they're worse off than everyone else n we should be super nice otherwise they'll genocide us all. I guess it's a good thing they're fast becoming a minority then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:44 PM
1

Yeah, I disagree. Most ppl perceive their lives as being more joy than suffering n part of that is genetic so happy ppl will likely have happy kids who'll be glad to be alive. Obvs lifelong sad sacks n misery guts probably will produce similar kids for whom suffering might exceed joy but that's far from being the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:38 PM
1

Not everyone perceives life as suffering. It could v well be that my life is awesome, my family is awesome n any baby of ours would perceive life like we do - awesome. Most ppl who exist wouldn't rather not exist n in fact find existence so awesome, they go on to reproduce themselves to bring more ppl into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:15 PM
1

I think it's less about him meeting someone "better" n more about him just continuing to sleep around (unrestricted sociosexuality is a big predictor of cheating), n it's not like the only options are either SMP losers or men with 50+ partners. It's also just incompatibility. How much would a low count girl have in common with a manwhore anyway? Seems like they'd repel each other. i dont want to be "the best someone could get", i want to be chosen by someone who could "get the best", i guess I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:05 PM
1

Black ppl as a whole have seen their wealth relative to whites decrease since the GFC. I don't see any metric by which young white men are the poorest, most put upon group in society. The bottom of society actually votes Democrat so this poor racist white Trump supporter thing is kinda a myth to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:50 PM
7

Why would a guy whose had several partners but isn't a big partier or playboy be a loser? It's not like anyone's saying they go for incels or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:28 PM
0

Actually, I'm p sure black middle class kids have the highest rates of downward social mobility. The economy has gotten worse for most ppl, doesn't change the fact that the bottom of society is a lot less white male than the middle n the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:04 PM
2

List some programs or assistance then. I won't hold my breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:56 PM
1

Examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:53 PM
1

No i know lots of these skinny well-dressed hipsters n they do just fine. Different demographics is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:52 PM
6

Except white men aren't over-represented at the bottom; they're one of the demos least likely to be at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:53 AM
3

There's no gov assistance for childless able-bodied women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:49 AM
2

There are girls into hipsters n arty farty types.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:38 AM
10

Whenever i see this stuff online, it's always "after 10 years of marriage, my husband discovered he's poly. Help!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:44 AM
8

Fat acceptance is part of body positivity in general which is something women invented for other women bc women are more obsessed with their looks/bodies, n bc fat women get piled on more than fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:05 PM
1

rape hysteria is a classic racist trope n when those refugee rape stories turn out to be hoaxes or full on false accusations (which has happened multiple times now), the men who are all about protecting women from foreigners n men from false rape accusations are silent. "as long as practice X or Y don't directly kill or maim people, we have to put up with it". What's wrong with this? Isn't this the status quo anyway? I mean that's what happens when your culture has no values other than "do whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:09 PM
4

Some men perceive women on woman-oriented media telling other women "just bc you're fat doesn't mean you're not beautiful!" as women telling men "you must find fat girls hot, or else!" That stuff is directed at women bc women seem to base their self-esteem on their looks/weight more n bc men aren't fat, only women are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:59 AM
1

That's obesity, which is but a type of fatness, not overall fatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:16 AM
1

So SJWs don't support honour violence, forced marriage n so on, they just ignore foreign stuff they don't understand n refuse to paint entire cultures with a broad brush based on their worst practices? I thought you were arguing they're unreasonable… 3rd wave feminist activisim is directed specifically against white western males. Umm…maybe this is bc 3rd wave feminist activism is a white western female thing in white western countries. I'm sorry but this is a really dumb statement. Mona Eltahaw…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:35 AM
1

There are SJWs who support FGM, honour killings n forced marriage? And they do it to piss off straight white cismales? I don't think you've thought this through; why would women's rights abuses in the 3rd world piss off white men? What ppl like germaine Greer say is that misogyny manifests differently in different cultures n it's not her place to address other cultures that she has limited knowledge about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 03:02 AM
2

A lot of feminists are of the (correct) opinion that it's best to keep their mouths shut about cultures n peoples they know nothing about since any "help" is likely to be offensive n completely unhelpful. "But what about the bad men/poor women over there" is a common red herring by western anti-feminists n misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:24 PM
2

What do you think most feminists in the west are?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:22 PM
3

Do white ppl have some burden to rescue everyone in your worldview or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:17 PM
1

Single mothers bear most of the burden associated with raising their kids. That's what taking responsibility is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:13 PM
1

I'm not talking about obesity, garden variety fatness is the norm in both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:25 PM
2

Most men are fat n not incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:43 PM
2

What do you mean the current system doesn't work for most ppl?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:28 PM
3

I always wonder how women allow themselves to get coaxed into stuff like that n stay with guys like that. It seems miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:48 PM
1

Hey, some women might actually be into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:32 AM
1

Not sure if serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 07:13 AM
3

how much injury caused absolutely has an impact on how seriously an assault is taken, which is what this comment chain is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:58 PM
1

I'm saying "abuse is abuse" is obfuscation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:51 PM
6

Being unattractive to a man is abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:19 PM
3

That's dumb. That's like saying what's the difference between a smack that causes temporary redness n a king hit that causee brain damage "abuse is abuse".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:16 PM
2

Yeah, they're wrong; hunter-gatherers were actually mostly socially monogamous. polygyny exploded post-agriculture since it was facilitated by wealth n inequality/hierarchies among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 06:13 PM
1

This isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:14 PM
1

I always think those are fake. I've never seen a rejection irl. Jesus that would be so embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:08 PM
1

Sad stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:06 PM
3

Public proposals, really anything big n public, always make me cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:03 PM
1

So a fan of poetry?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:54 PM
1

For real, I wonder what kind of relationship she had with her dad. I couldn't imagine my dad saying anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:52 PM
1

Yeah that's a weird one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:45 PM
1

Are you a poet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:44 PM
1

You can get lots of sex with as many pretty young things as you want (male sexual imperative) as a western man in some countries. If there was an entire nation of attractive commitment-minded millionaires somewhere n all a woman had to do was fly over there to get one (female sexual imperative), I'd actually say it was a really sweet deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:43 AM
1

What's with you n these dumb threads?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 11:28 AM
2

Even David buss (not to mention paternity data) says this AF/BB is rare. The ideal is to get both in the same man n most women more or less manage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:19 AM
1

They looked at ppl who'd survived gunshots n jumping off the Golden Gate. Those are highly lethal methods with high success rates, not like pills or wrist slitting. I remember an article about Golden Gate Bridge jumpers n like 90% of those who survived said that they regretted it as soon as they jumped n realised they were actually gonna die. The survival instinct is almost impossible to suppress when push comes to shove. There's a lot about this written by suicidologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:08 AM
1

Anywhere from one-third to 80% of all suicide attempts are impulsive acts, according to The New England Journal of Medicine. 24% of those who made near-lethal suicide attempts decided to kill themselves less than five minutes before the attempt, and 70% made the decision within an hour of the attempt. 90% of people who survive suicide attempts, including the most lethal types like shooting one’s self in the head, don’t end up killing themselves later. That statistic reflects the “temporary natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:41 AM
1

Greater capacity for violence n impulsivity imo. From what I've read about suicide, a significant chunk of suicides are committed under the influence of drugs/alcohol n most suicides are spur of the moment decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 03:55 PM
0

Since when do feminists complain about random stranger men not protecting them? They seem to mostly just want men to leave women alone. That's the big elephant in the room here, any "need" for male protection is bc of male violence. If men toned down all the rapes n murders n shit (like feminists want them to), why would their protection be needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 07:19 AM
2

What % of 45+ women even want men tho? I know a few widows n divorcees in their 50s n 60s who never even dated n have never had any interest in remarrying. I think that's quite common, a lot of women seem to lose interest after menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 09:33 PM
1

Either way, I don't see how it'd be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 07:37 PM
2

Fat acceptance stuff that has minimal irl presence n is a joke to 99% of ppl = "all sorts of advocacy groups" now? Spinsters are definitely viewed as failures in a way that bachelors aren't. everyone can be whatever they want to be. But being gender non-conforming or failing to achieve gendered milestones will cost a person SMV/RMV n social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 07:24 PM
2

Yes, the rich guy is more sexually attractive. I'm surprised this isn't obvs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:17 PM
2

Then you greatly underestimate the role status/power/money play in male attractiveness to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:07 PM
2

Put a guy in an expensive suit by a lambo n have his identical twin brother in a burger king uniform, who do you think is more viscerally attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:46 PM
2

I feel like women eat up that feel good stuff more, yet they still report higher levels of psychological distress n lower self-esteem n being fat/unfeminine is v much penalised by men. Idk how you'd sell "it's ok to be unmasculine" to men. Feminists try but men seem to lol at it. Like those "I need feminism bc being a brony/pegged/whatever doesn't make me less of a man" memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:19 PM
1

Yeah, but a woman who is fat or single/childless over a certain age is viewed as a loser too n this isn't as true for men. It's not like women are completely free from gender-based expectations either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:06 PM
2

I hear you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:05 AM
1

So you really would've preferred to be dependent on your parents forever? Actually, even worse, a husband is a lot more demanding than parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 05:33 PM
2

When you got your first job did you feel like you were enslaved by corporations or that you got some freedom from your parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:13 PM
2

As it is, poly ppl are free to get together n do their thing (I don't know why you didn't try finding a poly woman), there are even some on this sub, but their numbers are small bc most ppl aren't interested. We don't know what were the details, maybe everyone was always cheating but people were intentionally looking away. This was the case (but only for men!) in a lot of cultures where women had limited rights, strong pressure to marry/stay married n were dependent on men so had limited options…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 12:50 PM
8

Two ppl who had hot porn sex into their 80s obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 12:06 PM
3

I see what you're advocating, dan savage style "monogamish" relationships. The trouble with that is most ppl just don't want it. Both men n women. Men don't want their wife/gf sleeping with (most likely) higher SMV men on the side n women don't want their men sleeping around on them either. Also, a lot of women are turned off by men who'd share them; I know I'd lose respect for my bf if he was ok with other men fucking me. Sexual jealousy is a cultural universal, most ppl want their partners to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 10:57 AM
3

You seem p sweet on here. You're selling yourself short I think. You seem to deliberately be going for losers, stop doing that, aim higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 08:48 AM
2

It's not necessarily about being "fulfilled". It's about independence: if you wanna call the shots in your life, you need your own income. It's really that simple. Feminists didn't want women to be at the mercy of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 08:16 AM
1

Haha, I had the exact same reaction!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:31 PM
4

This is what happens to the sorority girls who thought they were too good for me!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:26 PM
1

You seem to consistently hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:57 PM
1

well the main problem is they do not want to share, not that they do not want more partners.... Well, v few women are going to go for one-sided poly where she has to be faithful but he doesn't…unless he's a 10/10 or has serious $$$. I doubt Melania cares about Trump's fidelity, for example. The French are reputed to be really chill with affairs, a lot more chill than other Westerners. It's odd to hear a Frenchman complaining that his culture is too monogamous. 80% female having sex with 20% men …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:36 PM
1

In surveys, it's still a v small % of ppl who want poly relationships. A lot of men view it as being a cuck n a lot of women are put off by cucks n sharing. I'm still not sure about your model, is it "monogamish" like dan savage recommends? Like ppl would get in LTRs but still occasionally indulge in side action without it threatening their primary LTR? Isn't that already the case in France? 80/20 doesn't happen bc it's a big exaggeration (it'd be more like 20/40 or something), our culture is la…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:05 PM
1

I don't get your argument. What does your ideal society based on the male imperative look like? There was never a time when men en masse got to express their "polysexuality". The sex ratio is roughly 1:1 in the 18-45 demo. How is it mathematically possible for most men to have harems? Poly only improves the SMP for top men. There's v few men who are "high value" enough to be worth sharing n those are the men women begrudgingly share. You can probably be poly if you're willing to accept partners …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:10 PM
2

Haha, I think trans is a sexual fetish or a mental illness like BIID. I don't buy it as an identity at all. The whole trannies in women's sports is v much a joke. I was just trying to get your point. It seemed like you were saying men not being forced to comply with masculinity was a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:37 PM
2

I'm trying to understand how trans n gender bending is a war on masculinity or bad for men. Isn't that your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:26 PM
2

How does giving men who don't want to be masculine an out hurt men in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:08 PM
3

internet whining involves no violence. these are super neurotic inhibited men who can't even form irl friendships with other men, who are petrified of approaching girls or going out. Idk how anyone gets warriors with the capacity to form militias from that. They're selected against precisely bc they're weak men, not bc of some non-existent male surplus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:42 PM
5

Have you been to r/fa or r/incels? Forget about girls, a lot of them don't even have jobs or male friends. These aren't ppl who have the social skills or drive for banding together for violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:50 AM
5

Japan scores p low on gender equality; lots of employers don't hire married women/mothers so it's either work or babies n a lot of women choose the former. A lot of Southern European countries have the same problem. Population decline is inevitable, but it's less pronounced in countries that incentivise working mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:47 AM
3

I don't think that's the majority view here at all. In another thread, I had two TRP men arguing with me that "betas" wouldn't look at porn or other women if only their wives had sex with them more often lol. If anything, it's the "men are wonderful" crowd that argues that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 05:27 PM
3

In the Kinsey surveys from the postwar period 2/3 of men reported sexual contact with prostitutes. Have you ever read anything about history? Why do you think they call it the world's oldest profession? Srsly, just give the "history of prostitution" wiki a skim read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:37 AM
1

The average CS payment is $400 a month n they're not even paid half the time. The notion that welfare n CS are enough to supplant an actual income in the U.S. is laughable. And the trend of women having less $ n being poorer is universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:37 AM
6

The homeless are a tiny % of the poor. The poor, everywhere, are overwhelmingly women n children. Look it up, it's called "the feminisation of poverty".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 09:04 AM
6

Bc betas are wonderful n only have eyes for their wives. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 09:00 AM
1

Oh I see your your point. Well, men shit on women for hypergamy n gold digging all the time. A man who laments his inability to get frequent casual sex from babes is like a woman who laments that she can't get commitment from a millionaire. Most ppl won't sympathise. The state of the gay male pop. what with 1/4 being HIV +, sky high rates of drug abuse n every STD under the sun isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of promiscuity, n with heteros you'd have all that + fatherlesness n all the associ…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 08:02 AM
8

Prostitution was v widespread n cheap before the 60s. It was never limited to the elite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:00 PM
6

I'm p sure men were already doing that. And no amount of good sex from one women is going to stop a man from being sexually interested in other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:34 PM
1

But lesbians have higher break up rates!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:57 PM
4

ITT: men getting triggered by red pill truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:59 PM
13

As you say, it wasn't like they were going to actually throw over their stout wives; they still needed somebody to keep the house and do the laundry and raise the kids, and it was kind of nice to have things like Christmas dinner and so forth. So what's the problem? I don't think this is a gender difference, men would also find it disrespectful if their wives wanted to have a young stud on the side. I never got why guys on here act like the reason women get jealous is purely out of fear of being…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:34 PM
6

Lol FSOG wasn't extreme. He whipped her like once then she dumped him, then he became vanilla n they fell in love n lived happily ever after. Come to think of it, mainstream female smut is actually not as gross as mainstream male smut. I mean compare fifty shades to the 1st page of pornhub lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:40 PM
1

Morality has nothing to do with it. It's market forces. Nobody is sacrificing anything, everybody is taking the best deal they can get. Given the realities of the casual sex market, most men aren't forgoing v appealing alternatives when they commit to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:12 PM
1

Could just be your area or your industry; I know country towns often struggle to retain skilled workers for example. Some places have it worse than others, but overall the economy has gotten p bad for young ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:47 PM
1

Lots of jobs get 100s of applicants for like 3 positions, p sure it's not possible for them to hire "anyone qualified who applies".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:12 PM
3

Ppl say this, but I've yet to meet someone from the ghetto who wishes they were never born bc their upbringing was in poverty. Also, it's not realistic to expect the whole bottom of society to stop breeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:13 AM
1

You don't see how many applications they get per position.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 08:40 AM
4

This describes how I go about it to a T. Perfect explanation 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 05:24 AM
1

What does that have to do with submissiveness or dominance? Masochism, extreme desire for dominance, promiscuity n issues often go hand in hand. Nothing you said negates my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:02 AM
4

Yeah, I don't get it. I'd think v submissive women who desire lots of dominance would be more likely to be recreating past traumas, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:18 PM
7

It's p much what you describe. Girls who believe being submissive, anti-feminist n LARPing 50s femininity will make them desirable to "high value men". For a female space dedicated to the female imperative there's a lot of male (not just any male, but hostile to women n commitment TRPer male) lecturing. The worst is the guys who advise women to put out quickly n get plated bc that's how "high value men" roll, straight lols. There's also a lot of care taken not to offend men's delicate sensibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:24 PM
8

Large groups of ppl, esp. obscure internet-based ones, are often irrational n insane so that's not exactly an unlikely possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:23 PM
1

So men are rapey n dangerous, n women should be vigilant. I agree! It's just that feminists are blank statists n think re-education isn't futile hence they attribute to "rape culture" what we attribute to male sexuality. Also, regret sex n false rape are a trivial % of rape accusations, n most rapes aren't committed by strangers. The whole "stranger in the bushes" meme is a way to pretend rapists aren't typically normal men n to obscure how/where most rapes actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:01 PM
4

Is this the part where we pretend men n women are equally violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:48 PM
1

I already said I don't believe there is a rape culture and that women are more to blame for rapes occurring due to blindly trusting non-relatives to protect them at all times. How does this work tho? You don't believe there's a rape culture but women who don't act as if every man is a potential rapist are dumb dumbs who had it coming. That sounds like what ppl would think in a "rape culture" though I'd argue it's more about male sexuality than culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 08:20 AM
1

Idk what you're going on about; try to follow the chain of comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:18 AM
3

Everyone's love is conditional expect maybe yo mama's.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 09:11 PM
1

Idk if you're being disingenuous or genuinely in the dark, but "women's rights has/will destroy society" is a v popular misogynistic trope n is predicted on the belief that the ideal society is one in which men control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 09:11 PM
2

The belief that men have "let women run amok" (as if the default is men controlling women) n this has destroyed society is v telling in n of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:48 PM
1

Ok, I get it, i still disagree; you could use the same argument for any personality trait or descriptor, that it's not about the actual person but is just about how some ppl perceive them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:43 PM
–

It's like how whites are the superior race but Jews control the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:25 PM
1

But I want to understand. If someone has a reputation for being arrogant, what does that mean? They're truly superior beings who everyone else is uncomfortable with or? I mean, what is it about them that inspires the bad feelings? It's one thing if one joker with an axe to grind calls you arrogant, it's another if it comes from all corners n all sorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:20 PM
1

I disagree. What would you call ppl who passionately argue against beliefs n concepts they don't understand, if not arrogant? Arrogance is being sure of yourself while being wrong or grand-standing n mouthing off like you know more than you actually do. If you look at someone like Bill Maher, for example, even ppl who generally agree with him, say he comes across as smug n arrogant. If somebody is frequently being told they're arrogant, it's usually bc of how they communicate n present themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:07 PM
3

Edit: Oh, you were talking about terrible mainstream porn, and not erotica or kinkplay. That's disappointing. Ooh look, it's a porn snob.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:50 PM
1

I say this all the time on here n it falls on deaf ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 08:17 AM
1

https://media.giphy.com/media/119gdJbeNRRepO/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:22 PM
2

Talk about going down the rabbit hole. Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:22 PM
2

I wouldn't hold my breath…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:17 PM
5

I didn't realise the French government = women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:16 PM
2

Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:29 AM
1

Nothing too fucked up actually, some of the most acclaimed films of all time involve wars n gangs n shit. Do you think that means most ppl want to be in war zones n shoot outs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 07:22 PM
1

Nope. Some of my fave movies involve lifestyles, characters n scenarios I wouldn't touch with a six foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:50 AM
2

Depends on where they go, but often tax payers. I don't get how this is fair or desirable. IIrc, the state doesn't pay for abortions in the U.S., but apparently having a man pay for his spawn is unjust bc he just doesn't wanna be a parent but making everyone who had nothing to do with it pay for it is fair. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:23 AM
2

Only in TRP world, is the person who endures pregnancy, births the child then spends most of her $ n time on the child the one with "less responsibility". I mean wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:16 AM
2

Not for me it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 03:38 AM
3

I get that, but there are girls who'd run away crying if their bf did this n then there are serial killer groupies. It's a spectrum. AtlasB seems to think all women share her level of thug love or whatever. A guy smashing expensive shit n throwing out random accusations would send a lot of girls running.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 06:35 PM
5

I get some women are into that. I really do. Even I like a bit of jealousy/possessiveness in a guy, but smashing stuff n unwarranted accusations is too much. It's annoying how some women here universalise their tastes/preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 06:17 PM
2

Not at all, it's just unhinged n I ain't about that life. If it's your kinda alpha, I'd actually be afraid of him getting violent lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 06:07 PM
3

It's not like random accusations of cheating are sexy either wtf. That actually seems unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 05:48 PM
1

Oh boo hoo, n women are still expected to conform to the gender role of spending $$$ n time on their looks n clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:24 PM
1

Right, she's high threshold, NFs tend not to be hence the crying n writing in their diary; your theory that NFs are more into alphas doesn't hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:31 AM
1

Yeah I don't think they're more prone to seek out alphas, they're more likely to avoid them. Girls with high dominance thresholds don't cry to their diary when their bf yells at them. Could you see Atlas or a mobster's wife type doing that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 06:23 PM
1

I don't think NFs are more attracted to alpha than other women. In fact, I think it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 06:16 PM
1

I disagree, esp. NFs; they couldn't handle alphas, too sensitive n discerning; STPs are the gun molls imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:54 PM
1

If a cursory google search didn't produce anything, why would a more substantive search? Do you know how google works? The most relevant n popular content shows up on the first page. If it's not on the first page, it's likely obscure or not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:49 PM
2

Yeah it makes no sense. SPs are the sensation-seeking risk-taking free spirits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:33 PM
1

You think NF n NT women are more into alphas?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:30 PM
1

In the highly unlikely event that this actually happened, the father is an idiot no 0 sympathy for him, idk why he's expecting her to participate given she was v clear she had no interest. As for the mother, sounds cold-blooded tbh, voluntarily having a child then abandoning it is a crappy thing to do. No, I don't think she's admirable for paying; I think she's a deadbeat for effectively abandoning her kid. Maternal abandonment is no fun for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 04:33 PM
2

I did google "can consent be withdrawn after the fact" n all that came up on the first page was that one blog n a bunch of other blogs n forums referencing it n some ppl on places like yahoo answers asking if consent can be withdrawn retroactively. Once again, if retroactive withdrawal of consent is a feminist position (not a MRA/TRP fever dream), there'd be more than one random blog mentioning it on the internet. The fact that there is nothing more than ONE obscure blog by a nobody asserting th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 04:13 PM
0

Yeah you're right, the responses in this thread are weird af. Guarantee that kid will grow up to view the mother as a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 04:09 PM
1

You found ONE blog that DOES NOT EVEN SAY WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING IT SAYS. The first page of google is usually full of the best results. The fact that all you could get was an obscure blog by a nobody, that isn't even making your argument, demonstrates there's not much to your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:04 PM
1

No, public healthcare in most countries was established in the 60s, which is right about when decolonisation had already taken off n the empires were dead. It's a myth that rich countries are rich bc they stole from poor countries. This is an absolutely absurd argument. Public healthcare is a result of colonialism, I can't even. Rich countries are rich bc of high productivity n wealth enables them to develop things like social safety nets. Where were Finland n Sweden's highly profitable empires?…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:03 PM
3

I said that some feminists claim that consent can be retroactively withdrawn. And this feminist said exactly that. You found ONE obscure blog n she argues consent can be withdrawn in your mind to yourself. She herself says it's not about the law or the actual crime of rape. How are you not getting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:24 PM
3

If you skim the whole thing she points out it's not about legal definitions of consent or rape at all. It's basically saying "even if you weren't raped by law, here's how you can still be a victim n forfeit responsibility for a sexual encounter you regretted". It's all about the "victim's" feels, nothing to do with the law or the "rapist".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:15 PM
1

How about New Zealand or Finland or Korea then? Environmentally unfriendly resources n imperialism have v little to do with it. It's also a fallacy that the West is rich bc they raped the world, that's confusing cause n effect, it was their existing wealth n technological superiority that enabled them to rape the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:12 PM
2

Neither of your sources support your argument. Refer to my first reply to you in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:02 PM
2

So bizarre. The everyday feminism article defined consent exactly as you just did but he got retroactive rape from it somehow. I think some MRAs said feminists believe that n they all just parrot it without ever actually hearing a feminist say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 08:53 PM
3

I mean if this view is a thing a "very cursory google search" should yield at least one source, no? The fact that that you couldn't even find anything from the first page of google results indicates it isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 08:41 PM
2

Ok I get it but I think that's more of an ExxJ administrator personality thing than an SF thing. I can't see xSFPs being about that life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 08:34 PM
2

Interesting. I always thought S types were more down to earth n practical so them being more likely to ignore tangible reality n ppl in favour of dreams doesn't seem to add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:52 PM
3

Retroactive withdrawal of consent is this weird Mra/TRP bugbear. No idea where they got it from. It comes up. All. The. Time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:47 PM
4

Your first source is an obscure radfem blog I've never heard of n she specifies that her model isn't legally enforceable n isn't concerned with legal definitions of consent, it's about how the "victim" feels. The second source doesn't even say anything about retroactive withdrawal of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:42 PM
1

Body acceptance stuff is marketed to women to encourage them to feel better about their bodies n not feel pressure to live up to some standard. It's not even addressed to men. Last I checked, beer ads, porn n male targeted media are full of hot thin chicks. So, demonisation of male sexuality = Dove ads ft. women aimed at women n women saying eww at stuff they find gross like horny old men n catcalling? Whatever happened to the free market n freeze 🍑
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:27 PM
1

Why would this be specific to SF types?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:19 PM
3

It's not just Britain tho. It's literally every developed country on Earth bar America, from Taiwan to Kuwait to Australia, and Americans pay more than p much everyone else for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:10 PM
3

Prostitutes, even in countries where it's legal, experience v high rates of PTSD, rape, violence n mortality, n the v majority when asked say they want a way out. There's a wealth of data on this. There have also been a few recent studies that have found that legal prostitution actually increases human trafficking. Still, most liberal feminists are for legal sex work bc they perceive it as a choice/job like any other n believe legalisation will make it safer. Radfems are usually Marxist n anti-c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 08:49 AM
4

For feminists, female safety n well-being > "male sexual freedom". The health n safety of the women involved are the angle from which porn n prostitution are attacked (insofar as they're even attacked). Not a feminist desire to control the sex market so women can get hot guys or whatever nonsense. The most "sex-negative" radfems are actually full blown lesbians who don't even participate in the hetero SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 07:33 AM
1

There's parts of London which are 30% Muslim and only 16% British white. That seems to be pretty damn close to a Muslim majority to me... 🤔 Wat. 30% is not close to a majority, it's a sizeable minority. You realise 30% Muslim = 70% non-Muslim, right? So Muslims are totally taking over Britain n to demonstrate this you reference one of the most Muslim parts of Britain n turns out even in Newham: Muslims are a 1/3 of the population, white Brits are still the single biggest ethnic group, n Christia…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 03:36 PM
1

Looks like moving the 🥅 First, it was "they won't be a minority for long haha #eurabia", then when that's demonstrated to be false it's "8% is like totally a lot tho". They're a minority n will be a minority for the foreseeable future; doesn't mean they'll have no impact on the culture, just that they won't overwhelm it esp. since ppl naturally self-segregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:25 PM
4

Today's men live in unprecented luxury n ease. NEETS do nothing but exactly what they want all day n aren't lacking any basic necessities. P much nobody in human history has had it so good. The main reason they don't work is bc not working is actually an option now. Guys who are too lazy to work are not going to have the drive to actually revolt. There's also the fact that these guys can't even make eye contact with ppl n refuse to so much as go to the gym, let alone coordinate n organise some v…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:45 AM
4

More like what's best for you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:24 AM
2

In the English-speaking world the perception is the French are really casual about extramarital sex to the point where it's expected n accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:21 AM
7

You're gonna have to explain that one. I thought the alt right line was dumb lusty females led to Trudeau being elected. Is women's emancipation bad bc sloots vote for hot liberal guys or is it bad bc incels get mad n vote for the exact opposite 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:15 AM
8

If they aren't invested, what keeps them contributing? What keeps them from burning it down? What's to incentivise them to burn stuff down? We live in a time of unprecedented decadence, safety n fatness. The idea that modern NEETs who live in unprecedented luxury their ancestors could only dream of are as dangerous as primitive tribesmen who had to fight to survive is laughable. All the things you'd had to have fought for in the past you have easily available now. Food ✅ shelter ✅ sex (by proxy …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 09:37 AM
1

This x 100000. Most of these guys are ugly in the face n at least for me no amount of muscles can compensate for poor facial aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 08:30 AM
1

I feel like a lot of the women here have a weird overly negative view of femininity. Probably some nerd "I'm not like the other girls" thing. Like femininity according to PPD = being a BPD hyper emotional codependent mess. I doubt it'd play if I said masculinity is being a NPD violent ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:25 AM
2

But Pem said male love is based on the woman being his n nothing more, much like how you described parent-child love. You're saying that isn't the case? It's easy to say you love someone for "who they are" as some mystical entity separate from their physical self n utility to you, a lot harder to actually continue loving a woman who gains 300lbs n stops sleeping with you (aka stops providing value/utility to your life).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:04 AM
5

Lol for real. How many men really go through life expecting women to love them like their mother does? "Face only a mother could love" is a thing for a reason; maternal love is uniquely undemanding n unconditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:57 PM
3

Lol so his love is based on some mystical Pem defined ideal of "ownership"…which requires her performing a specific role he desires. That's a v convoluted way of saying "men love women for the value they bring to their lives based on what they do". Thanks for proving my point!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:52 PM
4

Even after the whole "ownership" thing, there's performance required. If a man's woman gains 300lbs n neglects her duties (sex, chores, kids, etc) that make her presence valuable to him, he'll cut her loose. Are you disputing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:42 PM
6

No, I reject it bc it's contrary to observable reality where men choose specific women who possess traits they desire n ignore other women. If your woman gained 300lbs, stops sleeping with you, cooking/cleaning, raising the kids aka performing n adding value to your life, you'll cut her loose (or at least most men would).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:59 PM
8

Because she is there. All she has to do is exist, and be present. This isn't true. At all. There's a reason you chose her n not any another woman who simply exists. Men don't get with or stay with women who don't provide some sort of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:39 PM
8

Men (through their labor and their money) always make sure even the weakest, nastiest, sluttiest, cuntiest, and most infirm of women have the basic essentials of life. Hahahaha. Where does this even come from? Certainly not any study of history or anthropology. The welfare state is a v recent post-women's suffrage invention. Men utterly loathe "sluts" n in many cultures they'll rape, torture n kill you for suspicion of sexual impropriety. Even ugly old women couldn't catch a break (who do you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:37 PM
3

Or maybe this "truth" is just nonsense to ppl who aren't already drinking the kool aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:19 PM
2

There's tons of incentives for the middle class n up, not a lot for ppl for whom marriage n financial security aren't a thing. 40% of households are single mother-led, 1/3 of single mothers are never-married, that's like 15% of the pop. You might as well as ask why drink driving isn't disincentivised seeing as that's more popular (n dangerous) than unmarried motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:28 AM
2

They live in communities where hardly anyone marries n unmarried couples having babies is the norm. Most OOW births are to women in non-marital LTRs. The same pattern exists in a lot of poor countries; serial monogamy is the norm n where most kids are born. Most single motherhood isn't some chick fucked a Chad in the bar bathroom then had the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:39 AM
3

TAkes the pleasure out of sex, lol. Oh, the inhumanity! Hormonal BC n IUDs have 1342266 actual side effects n women still use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:17 AM
6

For real, the pill boards are the only place on earth where ppl believe women are taught sex is nbd n consequence-free n all the responsibility n costs fall on men. It's literally the complete opposite of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:11 AM
1

Parents are limited in what they can do to their kids based on harm, not the child's barely existent bodily autonomy. Again, child sexual abuse of any form is considered harm bc of the v nature of sex. If this isn't obvs to you, idk what to tell you but I'm not arguing this with you. I'm ok with FGM type Ia being legal. There are much more invasive forms of vaginoplasty/labiaplasty that are already legally performed on girls. Who said anything about "celebrating" anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:19 AM
2

Babies are the opposite of autonomous. Their parents determine what they eat, what they wear, what gets injected into them n so on. Child sexual abuse is banned bc it's considered damaging n bc sexual activity requires consent, something babies can't provide bc (among other reasons) they lack bodily autonomy. Maybe you believe pedos diddling kids is ok as long as they're gentle (n there are lots of pedos n NAMBLA types on reddit who argue that) but that's not an argument I want to get into bc ew…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 07:09 PM
0

I'll try to explain this v carefully for you. Infants don't have bodily autonomy in the same sense that adults, or even older children, do. For obvious reasons. There are laws to prevent harm (in case this isn't obvs to you, rape = harm) being done to babies; that doesn't mean they have bodily autonomy. In fact, it's the opposite. Parents have duties to their babies bc it's assumed babies don't have autonomy. You can be prosecuted if you don't feed or change your baby for weeks bc it's assumed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:09 PM
1

None of this addresses my point. Ofc the more violent sex kills more, whether it's homicide or suicide. If you read research on suicide, the v majority of suicide attempts are spur of the moment acts that aren't well thought out or planned n often regretted immediately. Men are more violent, impulsive, risk-taking (n less likely to seek help) so they use more violent methods that work. This is not even remotely surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:51 PM
1

Not having bodily autonomy doesn't mean "their parents can do whatever to their bodies". I never said that. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:43 PM
1

I'm supposed to pretend that it's unusual that the sex that commits 80-90% of homicides n 80-90% of violent crime in p much every culture also commits 80% of suicides? It's v well-documented that men use much more violent (n hence potent) methods of suicide than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:19 PM
1

Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:15 PM
1

I wasn't addressing OP n both higher class n beauty are negatively correlated with female promiscuity. Saint Chad is more or less right that the most beautiful women tend to not have high body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:54 PM
1

Or women are more prone to extreme psychological distress to the point of suicidal ideation but kill themselves at lower rates bc they don't have the same capacity for violence that men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:51 PM
2

FGM is about harm, not bodily autonomy. Babies don't have bodily autonomy, that's why their parents can pierce their ears n give them vaccines without their input.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:35 PM
1

'Tis the general rule. It's even more pronounced with v attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:24 PM
1

It's interesting to me how TRPers seem to understand why patriarchy developed in most human cultures (restricting women's sexual behaviour = less male intra-sexual competition; female promiscuity = bastards n paternity uncertainty, etc), but then simultaneously reject that men historically restricting n controlling women (aka patriarchy) is a thing, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 01:33 PM
1

It was like a few men per village for a few months at a time n they'd often be given land/titles (where do you think the aristocracy came from?), most men weren't at risk of being conscripted until big national armies became a thing in the late 1700s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 01:25 PM
2

We should have a quarantined weekly thread for slut n count stuff, like the incel threads. Shit is so overdone n boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 01:17 PM
2

Why do MRAs act like most men in history were soldiers, when the warrior class was a minority among men n war came with glory n booty? Like the samurai, the mamluks n the knights Templar were such poor oppressed souls lol. Most ppl were subsistence farmers n peasants before industrialisation n wide scale conscription only became a thing in the 18th century, before that most cultures had a warrior caste n fighting wars = access to land n titles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 12:51 PM
1

This isn't true. Promiscuity is negatively correlated with physical attractiveness in women, same is true for a bunch of "slutty" behaviours (putting out early, having non-exclusive relationships). The opposite is true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 12:22 PM
1

I didn't read any of that, just googled the last article.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:21 PM
5

Googled her, that's incredibly fucked up. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:04 PM
3

That last article states men are more willing to kill men bc they're their sexual rivals n less males/more females = less competition for mates. Men were unwilling to save old women bc they have no reproductive value. They actually make a great case for male disposability being a function of male intra-sexual competition rather than matriarchy or gynocentrism or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:04 PM
1

Humans form pair bonds, among only 3% or so of species who do so in fact. Some humans are more capable of pair bonding than others. Some humans are more prone to extra-pair mating than others. This is at least partially genetic. Ppl who score v high on sociosexuality are more prone to promiscuity, short-term relationships, infidelity, divorce. There's no q that monogamy is just harder for some ppl than others. Monogamy is a bit of a puzzle b/c it's v rare in nature but ubiquitous in humans; even…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 09:16 PM
1

There was a study a while ago where they MRI scanned men's brains n noted (through brain activity in response to images + self-described sociosexuality) that some men were more wired for monogamy than others. There's also a gene variant where men who have multiple copies have less capacity for pair-bonding. The guys who invest in harems v likely have a stronger polygynous drive/nature than men who invest in exclusive relationships. I mean, it's pretty intuitive. And ppl don't actually have as mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:02 AM
2

Exactly, anything that's dirty, degrading or unpleasant for the woman is the holy grail of sex acts: atm, facials, anal, etc. The idea that men should endure pain for women's sexual pleasure is outrageous, but the reverse is standard fare. That's why you'll find all sorts of stuff online advising girls how to deepthroat without gagging, how to make anal less painful, how to deal with jealousy n insecurity in threesomes, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 10:24 PM
1

Most of the behaviour n instincts around sex are pre-rational n have been shaped by 200,000 years of evolution. It's why women are still pickier n desire status/resources even when they have their own $ n birth control n abortion; at a subconscious, pre-rational level, they're thinking about pregnancy n child-rearing. The v nature of penetration n women's physical inferiority makes sex inherently intimate n vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 09:47 PM
1

I still don't see it ever reaching handshake level, or being treated like any other social or physical interaction. Too much intimacy n vulnerability inherent in the act + evolutionary baggage. Escorts n sugar babies would've been mistresses n courtesans 100 years ago; it's always been a v small minority of women. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose n all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 09:13 PM
1

I think a lot of the societal conditioning surrounding sex is a result of it being intrinsically "special". There's very few human cultures where it's akin to a handshake. I doubt we'll ever reach a point where being penetrated by an undesirable stranger is viewed as no different to having to fake a smile or fix a sandwich for an undesirable stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 08:26 PM
1

Sex is different, that's why getting raped is widely considered worse than getting punched in the face; why being gently masturbated by your father is worse than being spanked by your father; why most poor young women would rather flip burgers for $7 an hour or wipe old ppl's asses for $15 an hour than get fucked by multiple men everyday for $250 an hour. You've bought into the popular myth that sex is meaningless n indistinguishable from any other social or physical interaction. Everyone fancie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:48 PM
2

I think the fact that it's painful n unpleasant for most women is a big part of the appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:23 PM
2

Libfems are "sluts", they're the sex positive BDSM/poly/kink-loving, sex work is empowering, herpes is nbd women. The less attractive the woman, the less power she has in her interactions with men, n the more likely she is to have to cede to the male imperative (having sex quickly with no commitment) n get pumped n dumped (thus racking up partners). Female physical attractiveness is negatively correlated with promiscuity because attractive women can get exclusive relationships with the men they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:44 PM
1

You've got this backwards; unattractive women are sluttier b/c they have to work harder/put out quicker for male attention n affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:55 PM
1

I'm only saying that you can't claim that is it LITERALLY the most dangerous job in the country if it flat out isn't. It definitely is in America, I cbf digging up the exact stats for Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:38 PM
1

It's in the discussion part of the study I linked to, they have references to the appropriate Canadian studies in there. Even 112 per 100,000 (the low range) puts prostitution in 2nd or 3rd place for workplace mortality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:32 PM
1

Workplace mortality is actually 19 per 100,000 for cops. Or it was in 2010. It's likely gone down since then, the most recent estimates I could find were 12 or 13 per 100,000. There's no way it's anywhere near 900.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:05 PM
1

According to this study, the workplace homicide rate of prostitutes is 204 per 100,000, far exceeding the workplace death rate of any other job to the point that prostitutes "face the most dangerous occupational environment in the United States". In Canada, it's 112-225 per 100,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:42 PM
1

Women specifically avoid dangerous jobs, despite these jobs having much better pay than, say, positions in female dominated careers like education. Again, not true. Teachers get paid more than cab drivers, truck drivers, construction labourers n a bunch of other dangerous jobs. Danger =/= high pay. The pay gap is more a function of women being underrepresented at the top of most fields (where all the money is) n traditional women's jobs generally having low pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 07:45 PM
1

prostitution is a legal job in most of the western world. I also love how you ignored the main point of my original reply which addressed your argument: dangerous jobs don't pay better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 06:47 PM
1

So? It is in Canada, afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 05:50 PM
2

In Canada n the U.S., prostitution (a 80+% female job) is the deadliest job. The wage gap has v little to do with danger. It's a myth that dangerous jobs pay more. Asians out-earn whites n they're under-represented in dangerous, dirty jobs. The mean annual salary for the most dangerous jobs is $45,000. For the safest jobs, otoh, it's $70,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 05:37 PM
1

It's pretty obvs what jobs are considered "high status". A lot of it is holdover from the past (eg: lawyers are high status even though it's no so lucrative anymore) n it's not always about $. Blue collar work isn't "high status", regardless of how well it pays or how much you love it, or whatever. I don't get why so many ppl are butthurt about this. Most ppl's jobs are low status, s'okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 06:18 AM
4

This is a dumb question. Women have their own shit jobs: child care, nursing, aged care, waitressing, maids/cleaners, etc. In fact, most pink collar jobs are shit. Why would they want to enter shitty men's jobs too? In the past, men n women both had their own shit jobs but the high status professions (law, medicine, etc) often excluded women. That isn't the case anymore imo, but that's where the modern feminist push to get women into "good jobs" comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 05:53 AM
3

I don't reject that ppl can get ideas from the media, what I reject is the notion that ppl get ideas from media ("girls love guys who act like their female bffs") then hold onto them despite them contradicting real life. And I also reject the message TRPers claim is in Disney films. Disney princes aren't "nice" in a "feminine" supplicating way. They are handsome, high status, noble, courageous, etc. Disney princess movies (until recently) enforced traditional gender roles n even in the modern mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 02:11 AM
3

Wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 02:03 AM
1

My parents lived in Egypt for years in the 90s, it's changed for the worse since then. It is very much a small, minority group of crazies who think this way. No. It. Is. Not. There is reputable polling data on this. I love how you've gone from ''you are totally wrong, omg, why are so you full of shit!!'' to ''well, you're right about the places you were talking about, but it doesn't count because I think only Saudi Arabia and Pakistan count because that's what I know!!'' I've always been v clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 04:38 PM
1

Where is this done in Islam? This is cultural, it's not in the actual texts. Google it. It's mainstream islamic doctrine that the wives should have separate dwellings; Muhammad's wives did. Divorce is difficult to obtain for women n there's a lot of pressure to "tolerate" or "endure" polygamy if it happens b/c it's halal n all the best Muslims did it. Shariah-based personal status laws are 100% discriminatory against women n they exist in 90+% of Muslim countries. It's not even remotely limited …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 09:24 AM
1

I'm from a Muslim background, I've lived with these ppl all my life, I've seen what polygamy does, I know how it works in Muslim communities, I know how Muslim women feel about it. Some white woman whose spoken to some bedouin women (far removed from how most ppl, even in Muslim countries, live) isn't going to convince me that it's sunshine n daisies. Maybe you should tell the Salafis, male clergy n horny guys who are always going on about how women need to overcome their "jealous n selfish natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:56 AM
1

Most of the research on polygamy finds the opposite. Go to any Muslim women's forum, there are campaigns by women's groups to ban polygamy or restrict it in a lot of Muslim countries. It's heavily restricted in Iran for example n women protested when the clergy attempted to make it easier. Even Muhammad didn't allow his daughters' husbands' to have multiple wives n acknowledged polygamy as being hurtful n unpleasant to women. The idea that it sucks n requires "patience" n "forbearance" on the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:23 PM
1

You're really wrong about everything you're saying here. Polygamy is a scourge to Muslim women, they loathe it. Devout, practicing Muslim women hate it like nothing else. It's a system that can't exist without the subjugation of women. Men can also divorce unilaterally literally by just uttering 3 sentences, but women require a legal process n permission from a judge. You can be married to a man for decades, he secretly marries another n then the side woman is suddenly entitled to a share of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 07:29 AM
1

Saudi doesn't have even a constitution or formal written laws afaik. You have no idea what you're talking about, it's not like anything a westerner could fathom. Link the last stoning that happened in Saudi. You can't b/c it doesn't happen. You're illustrating my point about clueless westerners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 07:06 AM
1

What I believe they should be focusing more on is the horrible and very real oppression going on in countries like Saudi Arabia where those oh so peaceful and loving Musliums are stoning women to death for adultery. They don't stone for adultery in Saudi Arabia. And this is why westerners who don't have a clue should just stfu about this b/c it's usually pointless n often insulting to the ppl they're supposedly trying to help. FEMEN tried this n were told "no thanks" by Muslim women. There are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:25 PM
1

There's the problem right there. Don't imagine. No, the problem is you taking words literally. It's a thing because these women married men they're not sexually attracted to. Nope. It was sky high in the beginning n then it declined over the years. If she meets a new guy, it's sky high again then declines again. That's just the nature of female sexual desire. It's theorised that we evolved to be serially monogamous. The most common complaint I see round these parts from dead bedrooms ppl is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 12:58 AM
1

I don't necessarily disagree, I'm more on the capitalist side myself. I'm just saying economic inequality can be pretty bad if it gets too out of control b/c ppl are envious af.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 12:53 AM
1

You thought wrong. Like very wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 12:50 AM
1

No i think it's actually inequality. It's positively correlated with prevalence of mental illness too. Ppl are surprisingly jelly. It's the same logic that causes TRPers to claim men are worse off sexually after the sexual revolution (lol), they perceive increased inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:30 PM
1

I think it's more MIC than oil tbf but the end result is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:27 PM
2

This response is a tangent. TRP says male peak SMV is mid-30s, asked how come peak SMV women don't date men in their mid-30s n date their peers, you say b/c dating peak SMV men lowers a young woman's status. My q is why would it? The fact that it does demonstrates mid-30s is not peak SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:15 PM
2

I've heard reports from men who had their wives IMMEDIATELY, as in RIGHT AFTER THE WEDDING, reduce the sex to a trickle, IV drip. I imagine this is v rare n you're hanging around in whiny depressing parts of the net where these stories are more common than out in the wild. It's not about female sexual desire declining. Most times with women, it wasn't there in the first place, or was so infinitesimally small that it isn't nearly enough to last . You're wrong about this. Female sexual desire decl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:42 PM
1

I also doubt that's what is happening long term. That's exactly what's happening long-term. Seriously, look it up. Long-term monogamy decreases desire in women n nothing revs it up again like a new partner. If chads inspire this undying sexual desire n love, why so many divorces in Hollywood? Could it be that there's more to relationships than sexual attraction n female sexual desire declines regardless of how hot her partner is anyway? In any case, assuming they dated 3-4 years before marrying,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:28 PM
3

Idk why you assume women marrying guys they got with in their early-mid 20s (peak smv years) settled so hard on attraction that their husbands repulse them. You're also acting like the NRE phase of a relationship isn't a thing. Casual relationships don't last past the NRE phase n long-term monogamy kills female desire. That's what you're seeing in long-term marriages. The same thing would've happened if she married "Chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:01 PM
2

If he looked like 35-year-old Brad Pitt, it'd play out just fine. It'd only look bad if he was a gross sugar daddy or average 35 year old dude. You missed figtheif's point: if 35-year-old men are so hot, why would it decrease a young woman's status to date one? Being on a hot guy's arm is the opposite of low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 09:44 PM
5

Hair is the big one, imo. Bald patches n receding hairlines can render an otherwise ok guy completely unattractive. Since a big % (most?) men start losing hair in their 30s, the notion of mid-30s being the peak is just absurd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 09:30 PM
2

INFJs are holistic, not particularly detail-oriented. The obsession with specific measurements is more OCD or spergy than INFJ-related.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:10 AM
1

Did I say it's "medically necessary"? None of them say it's dangerous or recommend banning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:40 AM
0

That's an incredibly biased source. Every medical body in the world considers circumcision safe n long-term damage n side-effects are indeed v rare for procedures performed in western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:06 AM
1

You can read my other comments here, I'm not repeating myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:04 AM
1

B/c libertarian sources aren't biased at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:03 AM
1

Circumcision is generally a safe procedure. It's legal in every country n complications are v rare. You asserting otherwise doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:02 PM
1

Dats typeist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:01 PM
4

If a big hairy Trump looking dude was dominant, masculine, (insert non-physical stuff TRPers consider attractive in men) I wouldn't be sexually attracted to him either. You have to meet the looks threshold first then other traits are considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:46 PM
1

Ok, I get it, I still disagree, lol. INTP? Is that what you've typed me as?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:41 PM
1

It is safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:40 PM
1

Mild harmless forms, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:39 PM
1

Collectivist ideologies aren't necessarily socialist. mises.org is a libertarian site, why would they have anything useful to say on the matter? I doubt you'd take seriously what a socialist source has to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:26 PM
1

If it's safe, it shouldn't be illegal. That doesn't necessarily mean I'd do it or think it's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:23 PM
4

This just isn't how women experience sexual arousal. It isn't "see hot man, get wet" like it is "hot woman, get hard" for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:16 PM
1

No goalposts have been moved; babies don't "consent" to anything, why are you not getting this? I'm not for banning procedures that aren't demonstrably harmful. Ear piercing n 12786653 other things carry a risk of infection n sepsis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:03 PM
1

What makes what ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:59 PM
1

Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:43 PM
1

No, ear piercings can be permanent n they're still not illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:41 PM
1

I'm not obfuscating anything, I reject your claim that all forms of genital mutilation are "demonstrably harmful". There's nothing harmful about removing the clitoral hood or even more invasive forms of "mutilation" that women get for cosmetic reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:40 PM
1

Yes it is. I got my ears pierced as a toddler, still got the holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:31 PM
1

No, that's you not getting it again. I'm ok with male circumcision n FGM type Ia being legal. I'm not ok with most forms of genital mutilation since they're demonstrably harmful. You're obfuscating again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:30 PM
1

Oh, you're one of those. I get it now but I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:26 PM
1

Idc how I make you feel, lol. What a bizarre thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:25 PM
0

Ear piercing is permanent n it is by definition "mutilation". Again, read, understand then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:23 PM
0

Read my comments, understand what I'm saying, then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:22 PM
1

How am I hypocrite? I'm not against male circumcision or FGM type Ia being performed in hospitals. I'm against more invasive procedures which have been demonstrated to be harmful. Get a clue before you get on your high 🐴
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:16 PM
1

But Nazism was authoritarian (n militant n nationalistic/tribalistic) which you said is patristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:10 PM
1

Yes, just like "painful non-consensual" mutilation of children's ears is legal; n babies don't "consent" to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:05 PM
1

1st worlders coming in to whine about circumcisions they don't remember n have suffered 0 ill-effects from when debilitating mutilation of schoolgirls in the 3rd world is being discussed is tone deaf retard behaviour. Distinguishing between distinct procedures is the opposite of obfuscation. Look that word up n try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:04 PM
1

I don't care what feminism is about, I'm not a feminist. Telling it like it is the opposite of "obfuscating"; conflating FGM n male circumcision is by definition obfuscation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:58 PM
2

Mechanised mass murder is feminine? I'm intrigued, how? Is it masculinity is freedom/anarchy n femininity is order/structure?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 08:10 AM
1

In the cultures where it's practiced, men usually have zero say or involvement in FGM.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:32 AM
2

They're not the same. At all. The most common forms of FGM involve removing the clitoris n labia then sewing the whole area shut so there's only a tiny hole left. The mildest (n rarest) form of FGM, which is the closest equivalent to male circumcision, involves removing all or some of the clitoral hood. And yes, I wouldn't be averse to that being legal in a sanitary hospital environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:25 AM
3

Bodily autonomy of babies is murky to say the least. You can pierce your baby's ears but you can't tattoo them, for example. FGM isn't banned on bodily autonomy grounds, it's banned on harm grounds. The most common forms of FGM are a lot closer to removing the head of the penis then removing the foreskin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:20 AM
-1

Because it gets brought up by western men when ppl are talking about girls in the 3rd world getting their clitorises hacked off with razor blades n having their bits sewn up. It's like ppl are talking about Bangladeshi sweatshop workers n I bring up how my shitty fast food job only pays $10 an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:15 AM
2

Richer, why would I want a guy to be smarter than me?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:49 PM
4

Yeah, I had to do a double take there, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:44 PM
0

That post is a great example of TRP hamstering. Men killing the women closest to n most vulnerable to them doesn't say anything about men at all, it says women suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 05:23 PM
2

There's another where 1/3 of men admit that they'd force women to have sex if they were guaranteed to get away with it, I was quite surprised by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:16 AM
2

Repeat offenders are a lot more common than repeat victims n the average serial rapist has a mean of like 3 victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:15 AM
2

Read more studies, the researcher was able to develop a profile of the 7% undetected rapists that was identical to those of imprisoned serial rapists; would most men know n deliberately imitate the personality traits of rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:14 AM
3

Yeah, no. There's no reason a man would falsely claim he's a rapist, quite the opposite actually. Google "social desirability bias", ppl lie to make themselves look good, not worse. Also, nearly all of those guys had profiles that matched those of serial rapists in prison. A more recent survey had it 10% of young men admitting to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:10 AM
4

These questions are as unambiguous as you can get. Have you ever had sexual intercourse with someone, even though they did no want to, because they were too intoxicated (on alcohol or drugs) to resist your sexual advances (e.g., removing their clothes?) ^ that q is v clear that the victim "did not want to" and was "too intoxicated to resist". That's v clearly rape n not drunk sex. A more recent study had 10% of young men admitting to having raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 09:33 PM
1

Lots of women are petite n <5'5; if you're fit n have at least an ok face, some women will find you attractive. You need to let go of that thinking that you can't possibly be desirable to anyone n women are all infantilising you. Maybe try different therapists to help you get out of those thinking patterns. There's advice all over the net on how to develop "game" n interact with women, but you have to develop some self-esteem n self-worth first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 09:08 PM
7

What? The first q asks if you tried but failed to force someone to have sex by means of physical force or threats of the same, i.e., attempted rape. These are the questions. Have you ever been in a situation where you tried, but for various reasons did not succeed, in having sexual intercourse with an adult by using or threatening to use physical force (twisting their arm, holding them down, etc.) if they did not cooperate? Have you ever had sexual intercourse with someone, even though they did …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 08:59 PM
2

No, you said "pretty much everyone on this thread" is claiming to be a lawyer, which isn't true. All the lawyers are regulars who've been saying they're lawyers since forever not randos who just came out of nowhere for this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 08:40 PM
2

4 ppl =/= like everyone on this thread. Also, it's a legal q so it'll attract lawyers + lawyers are abundant so 4 on this thread isn't exactly unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 08:33 PM
1

Atlas, sublimemongrel n who are the others?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 08:27 PM
1

What do you think is causing it? is it shyness or social anxiety or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 08:20 PM
1

Just skimmed through the thread. There's only like 1 or 2 posters who claim to be lawyers. Why are you lying like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 08:18 PM
2

Really? It's only like the same 4 or 5 posters who claim to be lawyers n they seem to back it up with legal knowledge. There'll be lawyers pretty much everywhere, there's a huge oversupply, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 08:06 PM
4

http://www.davidlisak.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/RepeatRapeinUndetectedRapists.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 07:27 PM
7

ITT: someone with no legal training arguing about the law with lawyers 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 06:57 PM
5

Like 7% of male undergrads admit to raping n most rapists are serial offenders so 10-15% doesn't seem unlikely to me tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 06:52 PM
2

Boys have been scoring worse than girls since pre-WW1 so either the misandric feminist agenda started over a century ago or it's bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 06:05 PM
1

What is it that's bothering you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 05:56 PM
1

Have you tried exercising daily, eating properly, setting goals n working towards them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 04:48 PM
2

Men usually don't want sole physical custody. They often don't even request joint custody so it's usually not a case of the woman "taking his children away".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 10:49 AM
2

Men tend to get joint custody when they request it, they just tend to be less interested in full-time child rearing than women; this shouldn't be news to the bio truth crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 10:46 AM
5

Most men don't want sole custody, maybe you should ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 10:40 AM
2

It's actually $400 on average n 40% of payments aren't even made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 10:40 AM
2

There's nothing "nice" about incels. End of. Nobody is single b/c they're "nice" either. "Nice guys" make a big deal about being nice b/c it's their only appealing quality n that's why they struggle: lack of desirable qualities. Lots of incels are assholes who believe rape is a human right, somehow it doesn't get them chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 07:45 AM
4

Atlas' man is extreme alpha. But collects scifi figurines. So not THAT extreme. How are these things even related?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 08:29 PM
3

You don't know anything about that guy, lol. Lemme guess, he's an asshole b/c he's hot n has tattoos. You're like the girls who hate on hot chicks b/c they're hot. Incels have produced like 5 mass murderers in the past several years just off the top of my head; they don't "care about women" in any real sense n their whole schtick is hatred n misogyny so they're assholes n jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 08:12 PM
1

I'm too busy talking about the asshole of Chad Freudian slip?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 07:31 PM
3

Incels are assholes n jerks tho. Have you been to their sub or heard of any of their mass murderers?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 07:26 PM
8

A woman teasing a man is just annoying and cunty. Wat? How do you even flirt without teasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 07:14 PM
2

Right, supposedly happily married dudes our parents' age telling us about the SMP we live in 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 07:04 PM
1

This guy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 07:00 PM
2

Yeah that's what I was getting it. Nerd n geek are used interchangeably, but dork is something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 04:07 PM
4

Yeah, it's definitely a generational thing imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 04:03 PM
4

What's more interesting to me is that they think super muscular guys have the monopoly on male attractiveness; they can't conceive of a guy who gets laid n doesn't fit that archetype. Look at the tattooed hipster Lewis posted as an example of an unattractive nerd, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 03:58 PM
3

granola shop owners. 😂😂 are "granola shops" a thing? Anyway, not all girls are on the cheer squad or in a sorority or something. bohemian n hipster chicks need love too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 03:56 PM
2

Lol, where do you even get this from? I never knew nerd n geek weren't interchangeable but dork is the one not like the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 03:49 PM
3

Youre soooo wrong. My uni is full of guys who look like the first one who do just fine in the girl department. I think you have no understanding of the <25 SMP. Hipsters are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 03:25 PM
3

This can work if the guy is a responsible benevolent ruler type who has his woman's interests at heart n the woman is more on the submissive side; but I have a hard time believing TRPers are like that since the whole ideology is centred around selfishness n putting oneself first. And generally irl, ppl tend to walk all over doormats. Oh, n it's not my experience that men are more responsible than women. Being first mate of a TRPer looks like a 💩 deal for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 11:25 AM
1

Do you know the pro-US Iraqi gov actually told the US to leave n refused to allow them to leave forces in 2011? Again, hardly anyone welcomed them in '03 like they said would happen; the "greeted like liberators" line actually became a joke. The Shi'as are pro-Iran, not pro-America. Does the name Muqtada al-Sadr ring a bell? How about the Iranian funded Shi'a militias who fought coalition troops? Frankly it's not the West's responsibility to ensure sectarian nutters don't kill one another Exactl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 11:20 AM
1

B/c they like variety, b/c they don't want to expend energy or time into a proper relationship but still want to have sex, b/c they're not into monogamy, etc. You're not seriously trying to argue that sluts only slut b/c they can't get commitment, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:55 AM
1

So the man can relinquish both CS n parental rights with the woman's agreement. That's exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:51 AM
1

I don't believe in this concept of "opting out of parenthood". You opt out by not having babies or adoption if you do, not by unilaterally deciding you don't want to pay for your baby. The woman opts out by terminating a pregnancy at no cost to anyone but herself, the man opts out by forcing the woman n the taxpayer to pay for his baby; they're not even remotely the same thing. If both the man n the woman agree to terminate one parent's rights, they can do that legally already; there's no tether…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:18 AM
1

For some reason, you seem to think it's unfair for a man to have to pay for his own flesh n blood that resulted from his actions, but it's fair to force strangers to pay for some kid whose father is capable but unwilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:54 AM
1

I don't see why we need to siphon off costs for ppl's poor life choices to the collective more than we already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:26 AM
1

So instead of the baby's parents paying for it, everyone else should?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:18 AM
1

She pays for an abortion financially, physically, emotionally; it's a cost she bears that nips the problem in the bud, so to speak. That's the opposite of walking away or not taking responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:37 AM
1

The baby is his n wouldn't have existed if he hadn't busted a nut in a woman, so walking away from his baby is abandonment by definition. Paternity is a bio relationship, not a purely legal one; a form doesn't make the baby not his or disappear, it just passes the buck to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:10 AM
1

B/c they like sleeping around, not necessarily b/c the men they want won't commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:09 AM
1

Legal paternal surrender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:22 AM
1

A slut is defined by promiscuity, not settling for less than she wants. The only hamster here is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:22 AM
1

How could he exert any rights or responsibilities over his fetus growing inside someone else? The nature of pregnancy prevents a man from having a role at that stage; men know this; even husbands have no say in abortion/pregnancy decisions of their wives but can't LPS under your system. It's his responsibility b/c it's his with half his DNA n wouldn't exist without his actions; if neither of them want it once it's born, they can give it up for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 05:05 AM
1

A slut isn't someone who settles for less, which is what defines low-quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 05:00 AM
1

Low quality =/= slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:41 AM
1

The US/UK overthrew the gov ostensibly b/c of non-existent WMDs n to "spread freedom" aka build some utopia (neocon spreading freedom BS sounds a lot like international communism). They knew it would descend into a sectarian bloodbath n went ahead. Think about that next time you claim the coalition didn't actually do all the killing, they just created the chaos they knew would lead to killing n destroy the country as if that makes their hands clean. The only Iraqis I know were v against the inva…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:40 AM
1

B/c the baby wouldn't exist without his actions. It's not hard to understand. You don't become a parent when you sign a form, you become one when your child is born. It's his baby whether he acknowledges it or not. LPS doesn't make the baby disappear or not be his, it just allows him to abandon his kid n siphon responsibility off to others. Why would he have a say in the abortion, it's not in his body so he doesn't have to pay for anything nor does he get any say at that stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:28 AM
1

Pro-choice = pro-legal abortion. Not pro-paternal abandonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:16 AM
2

and I don't think a woman consents to pregnancy by having sex either. Yes she does whether you think so or not. Pregnancy is a potential outcome of sex; by consenting to sex, esp. unprotected sex, you're accepting the risk of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:52 PM
2

I disagree. Whether the man acknowledges it or not, it is his baby with half his DNA that wouldn't exist without his actions. No matter how badly a woman wanted a baby, she can't birth one without a man busting a nut in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:34 PM
2

I disagree n don't really see the justification for the distinction given that a baby is a product of both the mother n the father n paternity can be easily established these days; the only reason the distinction existed in the past was b/c paternity was impossible to ascertain. It's not like a woman unilaterally wills a baby into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:23 PM
1

What's the actual difference b/w married n unmarried paternity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:16 PM
0

marriage is th emeans by which a man takes responsibilty for a woman and her issue. Right, that's how it was when OOW births were rare n marriage was the only way to reliably establish paternity. It's based on a roman principle that a woman's babies are her husband's. It's 2017, I don't see why it should be that way when we have paternity tests to establish paternity without a smidgen of doubt n 40% of births are OOW. It's not a legal relationship now, it's a biological one. Most ppl are averse …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:24 PM
1

Why does marriage make a difference? It's not Rome, we have paternity tests now. You don't need marriage to establish paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:49 PM
1

Did you completely forget about the complete n utter destruction of Iraq? That's 500,000 dead n it's still a death trap. The far-left also never stopped being anti-drones, anti-war, anti-deportations, anti-mass surveillance under Obama. Greenwald, Chomsky, Democracy Now, etc weren't fans of Obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:47 PM
4

Nobody disputes women's control over pregnancy. Men don't pay for abortions or ultrasounds or supplements or anything associated with pregnancy. Men pay for their 👶 that wouldn't exist without their actions. I don't get your obsession with pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:39 PM
1

Haha, he's not a bad guy. If he were more mercenary, he'd just string girls along. But he's definitely on the cold side; hardcore NT; we all thought the "I don't believe in romantic love thing" was weird as hell when he first told us. The only mgtow I know irl, lol. I'm super future-oriented with everything. I can't live in the moment. I think those types might be overrepresented among the girls here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:29 PM
3

An abortion is a further deliberate action, a cost that's 100% hers btw. A 👶 is the natural outcome of unprotected sex. No man, no 👶 How's that hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:27 PM
5

Again, the man does not have any role in the fact the birth happened. Would the birth happen if the man didn't bust a nut in the mother-to-be? I think not, so he definitely had a role. Sell a guy a gun, he now owns it n nothing else happens without further deliberate actions. Bust a nut in a girl, without any further deliberate actions, 9 months later 👶 with half your DNA is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:14 PM
1

I agree it's more "let's see if this goes anywhere" rather than "I want this guy to be my bf" but it's part of the dating process these days. I'd wager more women than not wouldn't get involved if they knew beforehand there was 0 chance of it going anywhere whereas most men would still go for it under the same circumstances. I completely disagree about ambiguity v "let's keep things casual". You must be attractive, which fits the impression I get of you based on your posts here. I have a guy fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:08 PM
6

She has full control n rights over the baby when it's growing in her; she has to pay 100% of the abortion, or 100% of pregnancy n childbirth-related costs if she carries to term. Once the 👶 is born; it has two parents, it has half the DNA of each parent, it wouldn't exist without actions of both the parents so it's the responsibility of both parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 05:50 PM
2

Obama suspended processing of refugees from Iraq due to a specific threat (or so they say), not green card holders n not all the countries. They're not really the same at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 04:30 PM
2

Highly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 04:26 PM
10

Women can't unilaterally will babies into existence; a man busted a nut in a woman to create a 👶 He had as much role as her in creating the baby so no reason why he should have 0 costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 04:24 PM
1

You're a gigolo? 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:19 PM
1

Link what you're referring to, never heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:05 AM
1

Looked to me like he was implying they couldn't do better b/c they're putting up with a 💩 deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:39 AM
3

So the "it was Obama's ban" claim is a lie. Also, no citizens from the banned countries have committed terrorist attacks in the US. All the actual terrorist-producing states (KSA, Egypt, etc) weren't on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:30 AM
1

I've been told repeatedly that most women never engage in casual sex and most women aren't even interested in casual sex. The claim I see more often is that most women try it a few times, don't like it n then avoid it. TRP/PUA goal is to be one of those guys girls try it with, lol. Also, these days sex precedes relationships so a lot of girls will have sex with a guy in the hopes it'll lead to something more n still say that they'd never have a ONS n don't like casual sex. I'll bet a guy who is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:05 AM
1

The northern Euro countries are consistently rated some of the happiest; KSA isn't even in the top 20 n they have free healthcare n more regulations n state intervention in their economy than all the Nordic countries. Where are you getting this from, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:12 AM
1

Romney was against Obama so duh. A more useful comparison would be Bush. Did Trump get more black votes than Bush?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 05:26 AM
1

the best part is that those same people that were saying Romney was crazy and racist (47%, right?) and classist and terrible for President are now saying he is a voice of reason for the right. That's b/c compared to their perception of Trump (who was considered a joke 2 years ago) he is. Everything's relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 03:39 AM
7

It wasn't a ban under Obama, why do y'all keep saying this? It's no better than the other side calling it a "Muslim ban".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 03:23 AM
1

The goal of feminism is to abolish gender roles n improve the lot of women. A lot of the stuff you're talking about (like female on male rape) aren't taken seriously by wider society (more so in misogynistic cultures untouched by feminism) n they don't hurt women so why tf would a women's interest group care? Do MRAs fight for abortion rights? Does green peace care about coal workers? Even tho they don't. MRAs n blank statists are a product of post-feminist cultures. Nowhere else in the world do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 09:48 AM
1

Feminists believe telling young women not to get drunk around strange men is "victim shaming" n MRAs say it's treating all men like rapists. It's only in post-feminist cultures that AMALT is discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 09:34 AM
3

I love how everyone ignores that the men who bust nuts in women n abandon their kids are likely not upstanding responsible citizens n their kids inherit their genes. The children of widows don't have a lot of these negative outcomes associated with single motherhood. Gee, I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 09:28 AM
3

You seem to be confusing a high conditional likelihood from somebody being a criminal to having a single mother with a high probability of children raised by single mothers turning out to be criminals. Exactly this, most kids of single mothers turn out more or less fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 09:26 AM
2

That women aren't all good and well behaved like feminist so often think? You're confusing Victorian ideals of womanhood with feminism. The idea that women must be wary around strange men has nothing to do with feminism. It's universal n is actually much stronger in non-feminist cultures; women who get raped in the street in places like India have ppl saying stuff like "why would she be out alone at night?", "why is she with unrelated males?". Men are considered predatory n women are taught to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:25 AM
1

Why tf would feminists promote the idea that "women are bad"? That rule has 0 to do with feminists n is about airlines trying to avoid lawsuits. The idea that men are more prone to sexual predation than women isn't invented by feminism. Go to Saudi Arabia or India n ask what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:37 AM
1

Go up to ppl n snap pics in full of view them n see what they do. Maybe it's different where you are but in the anglosphere you'd be told to F off n it's considered retarded behaviour. Ppl don't even openly stare at ppl, let alone take pics, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:30 PM
3

Do you even English? This exact scenario of kids getting molested on planes actually happened. It's not hypothetical, it happened n there were lawsuits. This is the entire reason why some airlines don't seat kids next to men. Again, you're demonstrating a v warped idea about reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:21 PM
2

Airlines only started enforcing this rule after they got sued by parents whose kids were molested on planes. These weird scenarios you're always writing out where there's 356322 white knights on hand to beat up any man who looks at a woman or child funny are in your head. Irl, rapists n molesters usually get away with it. Once again, your perception of reality is…not the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:49 PM
1

They had low numbers circa 04, it was a real problem, still no draft, just lowering standards n increased recruitment activity. The draft was a big part of what made Vietnam so unpopular. It's extremely unlikely that there'll be another draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:34 PM
7

They had a shortage in 04 when they were being stretched out in two wars n still no draft. It's v unlikely to happen n it's conservatives who oppose drafting women; feminists n leftists oppose the draft altogether. But men are discouraged from entering female majority careers that would be considered successful. No, men are encouraged, as demonstrated by the existence of the scholarship; some feminists bitching about it doesn't change that, just like MRAs being mad at female-only STEM scholarshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:27 PM
1

Case in point 😶
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:54 PM
1

Why not post here though? It's almost like you want to have control over your image. You also wouldn't dare walk up to strangers n take pics with their knowledge since they'd tell you off. Idk why you're pretending this is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:52 PM
7

Prostate cancer is a v slow-growing cancer that mostly strikes elderly men who'll die of other causes before the cancer spreads; the 10-year survival rate is 98%. For breast cancer, it's 80%. There are much deadlier cancers (such as lung n colorectal cancers) that mostly effect men so it's odd that MRAs fixate on prostate cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:48 PM
3

No it's really nonsense. Like next level bull 💩 In all things sex-related, a lot more responsibility n "good morals" is expected of women; sluts n women perceived as sluts are despised, esp. by men. Not to mention how much higher the $ are for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:37 PM
6

The draft only exists in America n there hasn't been a real draft since the 70s. There should be scholarships and social programs to make more women interesting in picking up garbage or working an oil rig Why? There are initiatives to get men into nursing n teaching; I wonder why there aren't any encouraging men to be cleaners or waitresses or maids. It's almost like no one is encouraged to do shit jobs. Just like when women with underwater basket weaving degrees complain there aren't enough wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:24 PM
7

It means women aren't responsible for getting consent and women aren't responsible if they don't get valid consent. Both ppl need to consent for an encounter not to be rape. Since women don't tend to initiate sexual contact with men, this is just a completely bizarre thing to say. "I disagree with you" or "I don't like what you wrote because it hits too close to home" does not translate into "Nonsense". No fam, they're legit nonsense. Talk to some young guys; your perceptions are way off. You ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:05 PM
7

Lemme guess, the cops are always harassing old white ppl n ignoring black thugs too, lololol. I'd rather believe my lying eyes than ppl with persecution complexes. Soz.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:52 PM
6

Notice the huge disparity b/w prostate cancer diagnosis n deaths compared to all the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:51 PM
5

Spoken like someone who isn't n doesn't know any Muslim-looking ppl who fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:46 PM
3

Men are 100% responsible for obtaining ongoing consent from their sex partners. Men are 100% responsible for the consequences if consent is not obtained. What does this even actually mean? Men aren't allowed to rape women? The rest of your points are nonsense. "Men have to be honest". What even. Most women work n have to work, that wasn't the case 50 years ago; 50 years ago, there's a good chance a man would pick up the slack. Today, theres a good chance a guy courting you won't even pay your $4…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:44 PM
12

Men aren't drafted for war in the West, nor are they forced to do dangerous jobs (n they seem to complain an awful lot when robots n foreigners take these jobs) or be the breadwinner. Men have a shot at equitable custody if they demand it, they're mostly not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:35 PM
8

The men not sitting next to kids on planes thing has 0 to do with SJWs n is about airlines limiting the risk of a kid getting molested after they were sued by parents whose kids got molested onboard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:31 PM
6

These "female privileges" are just SMP-related stuff that are a function of male thirst. Also, some men seem to perceive women being uninterested in them as hostility n abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:20 PM
8

Well prostate cancer kills more than all female specific variants yet gets less than half the funding. This isn't true. At all. Breast cancer is the 3rd deadliest cancer; lung n colorectal cancers kill way more men than prostate cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:19 PM
9

What "responsibilities" do men have that women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:18 PM
3

Who thinks men are oppressed? MRAs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:07 PM
9

Yeah, no idea wtf he's going on about there. I've literally never heard of anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:04 PM
6

It happens, whether it's ok or not. Pay attention to who gets targeted for "random" security checks at airports.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:04 PM
1

Yeah, I never got what this complaint was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 03:59 PM
1

You're for taking n posting pics of strangers n you're accusing others of meddling in ppl's business 😂 I'm still waiting for you to put your money where your mouth is n post a pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 02:58 PM
1

Scientists are part of the holy prog religion n beta af, obvs darkly enlightened internet nobodies are the ppl who know what's really up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:10 AM
1

Most ppl DO consider it wrong, look at all the replies. Again, post a pic of yourself right here right now or stfu about how taking n posting pics of strangers is normal n nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:02 AM
1

yeah, scary af. Poor girl :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:00 AM
2

arent you the guy who says women are too much work n not worth it? Why is it depressing that other men reach the same conclusion? That's essentially what resigning oneself to the FA life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 03:49 PM
1

bruh, this is the part where you concede the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 08:13 AM
2

I'm not talking about discussing or debating outsiders. I'm referring to likeminded ppl talking to each other in a relatively private setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 05:53 AM
7

On another forum I used to frequent this manospherian dude said he felt like smashing his sleeping gf in the face b/c she reminded him of his own low SMV. I thought that was incredibly fucked up. I think some of these dudes project their own insecurities n resentments onto everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 05:33 AM
2

A lot of ppl don't like that either. And it's still not the same as random weirdos specifically talking pics of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 05:12 AM
1

Such bloody weirdos 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:45 PM
5

B/c ofc it's about voodoo (wtf?) n not privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:37 PM
2

He's definitely uncle Julian. I can't believe no one has noticed this n I don't get why ppl engage him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:30 PM
2

If he could get a hotter chick, he'd keep fucking Ms. Fatass and add the hotter chick to his rotation (assuming he knows how to do that). Lol no way, he'd dump her. Guys who have harems don't fuck unattractive women if they don't have to. DiCaprio n Hefner only bang 9s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:28 PM
8

Yeah right, go up to ppl irl n blatantly take pics, chances are they'll ask you wtf your deal is. I have friends who stealthily take pics of hot strangers, they do it stealthily for a reason. Some places actually have laws or ppl trying to implement laws that ban this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:22 PM
1

Tbf, I don't even think it's mostly the foreigners. It looks more like pretentious high inhibitions introvert hipsters n nerds who think they're better than the basic ppl b/c they hate partying n drinking, n there are some guys who seem to have grown up in xtian fundie subculture, add in jealousy/resentment of hot popular ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:52 PM
1

Are there even orientals on TRP? There are or were some Indian TRPers who post here but I don't remember any East Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:06 PM
4

Dats virtue signalling! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 06:42 PM
8

I'm not talking about discussing or debating outsiders. I'm referring to likeminded ppl talking to each other in a relatively private setting. A lot of the time, what you lot refer to as "virtue signalling" would just be ppl exchanging ideas or talking about their beliefs if it's non-leftists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 06:32 PM
11

Lol at that jab. I'm sure she gets what virtue signalling is, it's just that it's possible that ppl genuinely hold leftist beliefs/values n want to talk about them. You know like how ancaps, Muslim fundies, TRPers n everyone else genuinely believe in their chosen ideology n enjoy discussing it with likeminded ppl. Some alt right edgelords like to accuse anyone who expresses different beliefs of virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 05:39 PM
1

Right, n fat ugly men can have lead roles in tv/movies but women have to be gorgeous even to play the wife of a bumbling unattractive fool, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 10:13 AM
1

The men who go on about how thugs n low-level criminals get girls never seem to notice that those aren't girls their middle-class square selves would even want. These guys are obsessed with "n counts", submissiveness n traditional femininity, not exactly traits hood rats are known for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:37 AM
1

No, I'm disputing his argument that looks don't matter for women since they can get laid no matter what. And Tinder is full of sluts. Ofc, looks matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:59 AM
1

I read that fat n less attractive women actually have more partners, i.e., they get pumped n dumped more. Tinder girls are a v self-selected sample given the nature/reputation of the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:19 AM
1

humans are decidedly not a 'mate for life' species. Oh for sure, this isn't disputed by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 04:53 AM
1

Not sure how new it is, but it's probably newer than "men are polygamous, women are monogamous" which is very old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:35 AM
1

Nope, the consensus is that there is no consensus since long ago humans developed this thing called culture n this has had a huge impact on mating patterns to the extent that there's no one mating pattern that is universal n it's v difficult to say what happened in "nature".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:51 AM
0

Yep, that's exactly how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:30 AM
1

That's one theory among many; there's no consensus that there even is one natural human mating pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:24 AM
1

There's no consensus on what mating pattern is most "natural" for humans. Theories vary from serial monogamy to poly where everyone sleeps with everyone to social (but not necessarily sexual) monogamy for most ppl n harems for a few top men;one theory even asserts that there were regular gang-bangs. I don't think TRPers know better than anthropologists, biologists, etc about "human nature".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:13 AM
1

That's like Trump saying if you're sexually harassed at work just go find another job, despite the fact that without sexual harassment laws, there's little incentive for employers who are so inclined not to harass women. It's a first premise difference. I think liberty is one of multiple virtues that has to be balanced against others. Your world would be like pre-60s America, where employers would pay women n non-whites less, effectively ensuring those groups are poorer than average n economic p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:19 AM
3

It comes with a personality I find unappealing n unsuited for monogamy imo, wild extrovert sensation-seeking risk-taker. STIs are another factor. Idc about the actual N so much as overall personality which N is a proxy for; lots of guys don't have high Ns but have a lot of resentment n FOMO, those guys are unsuitable too imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:04 AM
1

Prostitution is a thing n lots of ppl do things they wouldn't otherwise do for large sums of $. Nobody disputes that; there are hetero men who suck dick for $. You're misreading "women, in general, don't have sex with men they aren't attracted to" as "women never ever under any circumstances have sex with men they're not attracted to".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:47 AM
2

no, he's right, for most girls you just need to be a few inches taller than her n even a 5'7 guy is taller than most women. The men who are taller than 5'6 n think their height is hindering them are likely unattractive in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:25 PM
1

There's no prolific n respected mainstream feminists who say that in a jury trial all evidence should be disregarded n the accuser believed no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 05:19 AM
1

The press likes a spectacle n the rape accusers who create a spectacle (like mattress girl) tend to disproportionately be attention whoring liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 05:10 AM
3

haha, yeah, he's a psycho n MRAs tryna fool us that their cause is legit when that's their grand Poobah.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 08:18 PM
2

B/c attention whores are highly overrepresented among the ppl who run to the press. Remember mattress girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 07:07 PM
2

Paul Elam said he'd vote not guilty if he were ever on a jury for a rape trial independent of evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 07:01 PM
1

Oh, the gay hot pilot Ftfy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 06:14 PM
3

This guy is ugly?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 02:46 PM
4

Poe from Star Wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 08:56 AM
2

Exactly this, if you're a single woman in her early 20s, a big % of the men around you want to "keep things casual".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 07:05 AM
3

That thread was unbelievable. The irony of them calling women "entitled" when they're the ones who want to financially disenfranchise other ppl to increase their dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 06:49 AM
1

How is 2% "verging on being common"? Single fathers have access to all the same subsidies n programs single mothers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:40 AM
1

So why all the whining about men being "pressured" to be breadwinners?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:32 AM
1

Pay discrimination is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:32 AM
1

That's not what we're discussing, she said she'd pay a married man more than a single woman (though she stated she'd actually not hire women at all). IMO, paying someone more based on nothing other than who they are or their circumstances independent of their work is unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:39 PM
1

Well, then there's a fundamental difference in first premises. I'm an evil statist; I believe anti-discrimination n equal pay laws are a justified restriction on freedom. Neither of us is going to budge on that, lol. My point is based on reality, society n most ppl as it is now, not how things should be in the ancap dystopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:10 PM
1

Right, but it's illegal to pay employees differently for the same work for a reason. Ppl are supposed to be paid based on output, not based on who they are or where they are in life, which are actually odd things for an employer to prioritise when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:46 PM
1

Fairness isn't a thing that ppl generally value n that laws try to enforce? Since when?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:43 PM
1

How is that even remotely fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:20 PM
1

If you have 2 employees who do the same work, you'd pay the man more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 05:55 PM
3

The threat of punishment is a pretty effective deterrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:42 PM
3

Yeah you're right, all the best societies that everyone flocks to embrace vigilantism n lawlessness. Oh wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:38 PM
5

Ain't nobody got time for that. Write a TL;DR.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:29 PM
3

You don't have to endure anything. If you don't like what they're doing tell them to stop. If they don't stop, use force to stop them. If they're bigger and stronger than you, take a gun and shoot them. You're free to do so, and I bet that if you shoot someone who 'sexually harasses' you then you won't be getting sexually harassed again any time soon. What? This is why we have laws, so ppl don't have to go around shooting each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:28 PM
2

I don't get it. Do you want a 🍪 for being a law-abiding person or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:14 PM
1

As it should, literal societal "equality" with men is a dumb goal. The primary objective should be securing basic human rights (fair compensation for work is one) n beyond that leaving ppl be. How would you even go about making sex/romance "equal"? Men must date women their own age, women must date men within their income bracket. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:08 PM
1

They aren't the breadwinners to the extent they used to be, women are expected to work now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:02 PM
1

Teen mothers, in particular, are indisputably viewed as trash n not praised or admired for raising their kids. I knew a few in hs n I grew up in a low income area with lots of trashy ppl n even in these parts girls who got pregnant were viewed negatively. There's no question that single fathers are lauded n viewed positively n this isn't the case with single mothers, definitely not to the same extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:00 PM
2

How exactly do you increase male options? Whose at fault if some men are willing to pay for their wives (who have to take time off work to carry n raise their babies), but the same % of women don't want to pay for men? Remember, women provide babies n unpaid labour. What exactly do men provide that women would be willing to pay $ for? Eggs are dear, sperm is cheap, you should know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 12:09 PM
5

Exactly, tell that to your friend u/EGOtyst. He has the bizarre idea that single mothers are lauded n single fathers seen as men just doing their job. I remember a comment chain on reddit about a teen single dad whose gf died in childbirth n was raising his daughter alone; all the comments were full of praise for him for being so mature n responsible n sweet. What would the response be to a teen girl raising her kid alone? according to EGOtyst she'd be lauded. LOLOLOL, yeah right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 10:10 AM
3

Men don't "have" to do anything. If they want sex/romance from women, they have to meet women's standards. This goes both ways. In reality, most women have seen their burden increase; not so for men. Very few normal men are willing to subsidise a childless woman who doesn't work; boo hoo for a man who impregnates his wife n then has to pay for her to birth n raise his kid. Maybe we'll have real "equality" when men can give birth n want be primary carers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:58 AM
4

Exactly, reiterating my point that literal "equality" b/w hetero men n women is a pipe dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:53 AM
6

Not true at all. A man raising his kids alone is a rare thing n such men are praised to high heaven. Heck, married men get praised for "babysitting" their kids. Single mothers are also trashed on by lots of ppl as trashy, slutty, dumb, etc. Single fathers don't get that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:38 AM
6

Yeah, I reject your argument. Equal $ for equal work is independent of ppl's lifestyle choices or sexual preferences. And men don't even really provide anymore, 40% of households are led by female breadwinners n most women are employed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:34 AM
4

Single fathers? Just doing their fucking job. You cannot be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:25 AM
4

I am not arguing that you shouldn't. As an employer, IDGAF what you do with your money. This discussion should end here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:24 AM
6

men must provide equal pay You're not being gracious by paying ppl the same for the same work. The housewife/breadwinner dynamic relies on the free choice of two ppl. If you don't want a housewife, don't get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:18 AM
3

Women still do more housework though, even in double income households. It'll probably never go out of fashion b/c women like masculinity, just like fat acceptance won't get men to like fat women. The reality is hetero men n women who want sex/romance are never going to have "equality" in a literal sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:10 AM
4

The Titanic was the exception, not the rule. In most disasters, it's every man for himself n his.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:34 AM
10

Women in the kitchen n at work, men are still only at work. Who won again?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:17 AM
3

It's b/c of all the dumb feminists who tout equality with men as their highest goal, so a lot of dumb men took this to mean "women want to be men".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:14 AM
3

Outrage porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:04 AM
0

They don't talk about it to anyone, its all v discreet …but somehow you know all about it from "observation". Sounds legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:43 PM
1

Abu Bakr was healthy n fine n was reluctant to give A'isha to Muhammad. Idk where you got your weird story from. Khadija was wealthy n Muhammad was running his religion with her $$. Most likely she wouldn't have allowed him other wives + he really loved her. Other than Khadija (who is never described as unattractive & was probably a MILF), only one of Muhammad's wives is described as old n unattractive n she gave up her night with him in fear that he'd divorce her. The rest of his wives were wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 07:46 AM
1

This isn't true at all. Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, was the caliph after Muhammad died. He was alive n well n a bit freaked out when Muhammad said God wills for him to marry A'isha. She was 6 when they married, n 9 when it was consummated. I don't believe this is entirely accurate, but this is the story in the authentic Islamic texts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:04 AM
2

Right, but I mean men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 07:32 PM
2

It's not off-topic, one of his wives was 9, there were a few in their mid-30s n up, but the rest were all teens n early 20s, which is the age range were women are most attractive. Even he didn't have a bunch of 16 year olds which is supposedly peak SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 06:07 PM
8

TIL "doing fine" = living the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 06:04 PM
5

😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:58 PM
2

Late teens to early 20s. IOW, peak fertility. I doubt most men would go for undeveloped (say <14-ish) girls even in your scenario, that wouldn't make much sense biologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:43 PM
3

There is an extremely large religion which was founded by a middle aged man who had more wives than camels. He had one child bride, most of his wives were in their teens n early 20s. Do you think most men are attracted to 9-year-olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:23 PM
2

Her schtick is being vulgar n crass, she knows what she's doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 08:51 AM
3

For real, the whole date ritual aspect of it is creepy as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:57 AM
2

You're over-estimating the ubiquity of prostitution in countries where it's legal. 15-20% of American men have paid for sex at least once, for example; that's actually slightly higher than the % in the Netherlands n Australia, where it's legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 04:01 AM
2

Oh, there's definitely this weird lunatic fringe that's only found on campus. I think they'll grow out of it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 06:10 PM
2

The Nordic model is gaining currency in Europe, probably due to observing legal prostitution for years n it not proving to be the panacea previously thought, but it's not what I see in the anglosphere. Do a survey of the feminists here, for example. The libfem view is still a lot more popular than the Nordic view in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 05:44 PM
3

Fair enough, but imo if it quacks like a 🦆
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 05:16 PM
2

There's not much debate b/c in the Anglosphere, the libfems have won. Jezebel, feministing, most of the prominent 3rd wavers are for legalised prostitution, some of them even glamorise it as "empowering". Just like they're for trannies. The fact the Amnesty International endorsed prostitution, something radfems argue is akin to slavery, doesn't indicate the victory of the libfem position?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 05:14 PM
3

Really? Whenever I come across his comments they're always needlessly inflammatory n crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:55 PM
5

There's two camps in feminism on this, radfems are anti-prostitution but they're the minority; libfems who are the majority are "sex positive" n pro-prostitution. It's like saying feminists hate trannies b/c of TERFs which are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:50 PM
7

Look at his history fam, every post is like this. He a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:43 PM
1

Yes, but usually benign innocuous ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:48 AM
1

This whole comment is v weird. Films, least of all kids' films with talking animals n musical numbers, don't create desires n expectations, they cater to existing desires. It's entertainment n fantasy, it's not supposed to be realistic. Why would anyone want to watch realistic fairytales? Sounds boring af. I completely reject the notion that Disney sets expectations or has any impact at all on adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 07:52 PM
1

i never noticed until now how wide her shoulders are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 05:07 PM
3

I guess he doesn't know about sailors or British boarding school boys or young men in gender segregated Islamic societies or the 1237548 other all-male environments across time n place that are known for opportunistic gay sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 04:51 PM
3

I hate this. It's a PPD pet peeve.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 04:47 PM
1

Except that's not what I'm saying at all. It's like talking to a brick wall, you didn't get a thing I said. Reply when you've mastered reading comprehension n the ability to understood opinions outside your ideological framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 04:26 PM
1

You're never going to convince me men "suffer" to the extent women do from poor sexual choices. Or that men should be allowed to pass the buck (more than they already do) for their choices onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 11:16 AM
1

Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 06:25 AM
0

What does "need" have to do with anything? I fully blame women who get pregnant too. Men have a cheap easily accessible form of BC that also protects against STDs; if they don't want babies, they should wrap it up. Pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 06:24 AM
2

For real, all the TRPs accusing you of trolling 😂 I'm not even sure if they really don't get it or are just being deliberately obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 06:17 AM
3

They think about fucking them, not their internal life n dreams n blah blah. Nobody walks around thinking about how every non-descript person in the street is a human being with dreams n desires n whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:10 PM
3

Ppl in general don't see or care or think about random strangers much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:57 PM
3

Hairlessness n androgyny can be attractive in a sexless non-threatening not high T way. My guess is that's why teen idols men see as sappy n gay appeal to young girls, whereas older women prefer men who are attractive in a more sexual high T way. Basically, girls like boys; women like men. I doubt it's entirely biological since androgynous men are/were all the rage in some cultures past n present.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:46 PM
6

When does male-pattern baldness become attractive? Or do you mean body hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:32 PM
5

Yeah I was confused when I googled her. She has a cute baby face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:31 PM
1

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:26 PM
7

It's not "alpha" or "beta", it's just old n unattractive. Baldness also = high T btw so wouldn't signal provider either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:24 PM
1

Oh I think she's pretty too n she has great style. I just meant she looks more on the masculine side due to having no fat in her face n angular features.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:22 PM
3

She actually looks kinda masculine to me. I read somewhere that v rich men tend to marry v thin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:16 PM
4

Hairiness = high T which isn't a provider trait at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:08 PM
8

So true, lol. They do this all the time; whenever a TRPer says "average" I read "socially inept reddit nerd".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 09:08 PM
7

What does this have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:11 PM
5

What difference does expecting it make? A person you don't want to fuck is a person you don't want to fuck aka a non-option. Men women don't want are non-options. And by your logic, gay men are options to a fit young straight guy in West Hollywood since he EXPECTS attention from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:03 PM
6

Men a woman doesn't want to have sex with are "options" the way gay men are "options" for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:52 PM
2

They dont' even look at guys they're not attracted to, much less fuck those guys. Right, so unattractive suitors aren't options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:37 PM
1

Every wife-beater you've met was a hottie? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:09 PM
3

That's not a cool girl, that's a male-brained woman who lacks the feminine body n appearance part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:54 PM
1

Both men n women have the choice of using protection or abstaining wrt sex. If a man n a woman have unprotected sex, the costs disproportionately fall on the woman. STDs, abortions, you name it, it's mostly women paying. Period. As for "opting out", abortion isn't free either financially, physically or emotionally. It's a cost. Men can't "opt out" of parenthood after they've busted a nut in a woman b/c regardless of anything they do after that there's a chance of a kid with half their DNA being …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:18 PM
3

The Cool Girl is the epitome of a masculine brained woman with a feminine body. Most women don't have masculine interests or a masculine communication style or have sex drives as high as men's. It's not an indictment of women that they're not like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:19 PM
1

Men don't have greater responsibility, not even close; the costs of unprotected sex (STDs, abortion, pregnancy/childbirth, child-rearing), of which men n women are equal participants, disproportionately fall on women, not men. Men's choices are restricted by biology, much like women's burden exceeds men's due to biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:39 PM
7

You're proving OP's point…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:26 PM
1

Men have condoms which are super cheap n easily accessible. It's entirely their fault if they choose to rawdog women n risk pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:49 AM
4

This sounds spot on to me. I imagine men are more inclined to think she's just a headache, rather than thinking of false rape n the courts or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:50 PM
3

Doesn't happen. Men who are friends with women can't escalate to something more. Sure they can if they're attractive. My first bf started out as an acquaintance/friend, most FWB arrangements start out as friends n a lot of actual relationships start out that way too. Ppl date/mate within their social circles. Granted, I think it's less likely for a guy whose been a girl's bff since kindergarten to make that transition b/c he's likely brotherly n de-sexualised in her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:18 PM
2

The only men bottom-tier women have access to are bottom-tier men who aren't marriageable (or even interested in marriage) n most unwed motherhood is from non-marital LTRs not "fucking losers 2 hours within meeting them". Ppl want to have babies, humans gonna human, no matter how poor or dumb or marriageable. Barring forced sterilisation, you can't stop the bottom of society from reproducing. There were unwed mothers in Victorian England, there are unwed mothers all over Africa n Latin America; …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 08:08 PM
1

The point is that its not "lack of consequences" as demonstrated by the fact that there are ample consequences n unwed motherhood is rife even in countries with much worse consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:34 PM
2

You realise it takes two to tango?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:05 PM
2

Men's choices are "subsidised" by women n the state via the financial/social/health costs of abortion, pregnancy, childbirth n child-rearing all falling on women n (to a lesser extent) the state. At most, men have a relatively minor financial cost. Their choice to bust nuts in women is mostly being paid for by others. Really, what more subsidisation of their choices do men want?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 04:52 PM
1

Just because EBT doesn't regulate calories now, doesn't mean it can't do so later. Yeah nah I wouldn't hold my breath on that… I don't care about ppl "judging" ppl. 👩‍⚖️ away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:51 PM
2

Do you believe in welfare queens driving through the ghetto in their Cadillacs too? Are you really trying to argue that visitation & CS even come close to the to $ n time burden of pregnancy, childbirth n full-time parenthood?! 45% CS? I'll believe it when I see it, not now where every study ever done on the subject shows men have more money post-divorce n it's women n their children whose financial well-being declines, sometimes to the point of poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:49 PM
1

Not really. There are some things a society deems worth "socialising" n other things that aren't. This is not strange or inconsistent if one isn't an ideologue. There aren't any programmes that regulate the calories or diets or drinking habits of ppl on Medicaid n Medicare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:36 PM
2

We're talking about those evil single mothers, what are you talking about? Either a woman is married to the father n they're sharing the child-rearing burden or she's raising her kids alone hence shouldering almost the entirety of the burden while the man does fuck all. There's no normal scenario where men pay more or experience worse consequences than women for sex/babies. If you divorced your wife, you'd have less expenses n more money to spend, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:29 PM
1

I'll play an even smaller 🎻 for men who bust nuts in random women then cry about having to pay for their own flesh n blood.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:20 PM
2

Women are more susceptible to STDs n often bare higher health burdens from them, e.g.: PID. Childbirth is a result of the sexual choices of a man n a woman, it is by definition, a consequence. You're also assuming abortion isn't a cost; another cost that men don't have btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:15 PM
2

I thought we were talking about "sexual choices"? Having unprotected sex is a "sexual choice", the consequences of which include STDs n pregnancy/babies, the bulk of the cost of these consequences fall on women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 01:35 PM
3

What time costs do men pay? At most, men pay a small % of their paycheck in CS (many don't even do that), the vast majority of child-rearing costs falls on women. It's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 01:26 PM
3

A man n a woman have unprotected sex. Poor sexual choice on both their parts. She gets pregnant. She has to pay for all the financial costs of the pregnancy n childbirth + the physical n health risks. He has 0 costs at this stage. The child is born. She has to change her entire schedule n lifestyle to accommodate raising a child so she bares all of the social n lifestyle costs. He has 0 social n lifestyle costs; he can continue living exactly as he was before in terms of his day to day life. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:48 AM
5

It's not "welfare for women" if the main beneficiaries are kids (both male n female) n their custodial parents. You have to be poor n raising a kid/s alone; there's no welfare for being a woman. Is aged care all about supporting women too since most of the elderly are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:50 AM
9

Men's sexual choices are being subsidised by a) the women they impregnate n b) the state that has to pay for them. Men suffer way way less consequences/costs for their poor sexual choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:42 AM
1

you can provide surveys n studies n anecdotes for days about how most ppl aren't miserable, most marriages aren't miserable n all this misery he's going on about isn't the reality for most ppl n he just carries on with the same narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:19 AM
1

Like most men, they love women and want to keep them safe. Absolute patriarchal control keeps women safe. This is completely naive thinking that isn't reflected by reality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:53 AM
4

Raising a child costs $$ n time. Sounds like consequences, much more severe consequences than men face, to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:35 AM
6

They do suffer consequences, but its not enough to deter them because they keep doing it in growing numbers. Same can be said for men. In reality, some ppl aren't v good at long-term planning or thinking. There's plenty of illegitimacy in 3rd world countries where it's a one-way ticket to prostitution n begging. You can't tell me those women aren't suffering consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:33 AM
5

This is pure black n white thinking. Most economies aren't 100% socialist or 100% capitalist, they're mixed economies. That's completely common n normal. My point is that it's contradictory to say "I'm a free individual who can do whatever they want with their body" and also say "I fucked up now you have to help me". No it's really not. Can you regulate what ppl on gov healthcare eat or drink b/c the state has to pay for their illnesses?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:31 AM
7

There's no "welfare for women", there's welfare for single parents n their children, not to give women freebies, but to not end up with child beggars n prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:23 AM
3

I think the shame aspect if it even exists comes from weaboos or dorky white guys who tend to date Asian girls (as the stereotype goes). It's associated with low SMV guys. Like white girls who have "jungle fever" are perceived as trashy n unattractive, think black man/fat white woman stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 06:51 PM
2

I question it because we all went to high school, where the social hierarchy is pretty brutally upfront about what is popular/attractive/cool. So unless someone's been homeschooled, they've likely been exposed to this. For some reason, it's only TRPers who were socialised purely by what their parents n pastors told them, instead of looking around the schoolyard. Since when do teens take cues on how to teen from their parents n authority figures?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 08:12 PM
2

you need to shut the fuck up and be happy to have anybody that doesn't find you disgusting. This is a horrible mindset that nobody should adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 08:00 PM
1

Jesus that's awful, so sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 04:24 PM
1

Idk about Atlas' time/milieu n it was pre-internet, but if a girl my age told me the media is telling her she can have babies at 50, I'd say she's seeing what she wants to see. It's more like a woman who says "men n feminism told me to sleep with men quickly n that men love sexually liberated women n I believed this for 10 years, despite mostly getting pumped n dumped, until I found RPW. No one else tells women that fucking asap can put you in a guy's booty call/ONS category!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 04:22 PM
1

That's that guy's schtick, without prompting or provocation he goes on about how he's an evil persecuted white male n men with guns are giving all his money to single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 04:20 PM
2

Omg I got into an argument with a BPer here saying fertility doesn't decline until menopause, that 45 year olds are only a little less fertile than 30 year olds. I was like wtf, I've never encountered it irl. Idk why ppl think it's a good idea to lie to women about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:47 PM
2

On feminist forums n irl, there's lots of victims of DV who complain that the police do fuck all, esp. where "non-violent" stalkers are concerned. It's probably a case-by-case thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:50 PM
1

Not very "alpha", copying internet women's writing styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:31 PM
2

Atlas called, she wants her canned response back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:22 PM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:08 PM
1

What you lot believe "they want to do" isn't as important as "what they actually do". Read n understand the comment you replied to. Men are effectively "hypergamous" since they commit to who they perceive as the best of their options n may or may not ditch the woman they're with if a more desirable one is available. They don't "collect" women b/c we live in the West in 2017.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:01 PM
1

Their "nature" as an abstract hypothetical doesn't really matter as much as what they actually do in the current cultural context.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:34 PM
2

Their "nature" as an abstract hypothetical doesn't really matter as much as what they actually do in the current cultural context. In the modern West, harems aren't an option for 99% of men; men are just as, if not more, likely to dump a woman for someone more desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 09:52 AM
1

Escorts are legal afaik n most of them will bang for $$ there's also mail order brides.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:14 AM
1

Have you ever heard of the notorious "government give girlfriends" guy? Apparently, he's not the only one who thinks the government owes men gfs/sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 07:45 AM
1

How is that "entitlement"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 07:36 AM
4

I disagree. His stated preferences (which are perfectly reasonable n banal) on his profile aren't what the article was about, it's the weird rejection essay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:38 PM
3

In u/BiggerDthanYou's link only very short men suffer a sexual penalty for height; there's no difference in # of partners b/w average n tall men (based on men's self-reports).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:15 PM
9

No it doesn't, it goes into detail about his long rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:58 PM
7

I don't think it's his standards so much as his writing an essay n ending it with "I'm too good for you, lower your standards" when a simple "not interested" would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:39 PM
7

Do women on dating sites really write essays like this to reject a guy? Given how many crappy messages women get on those places, seems like an epic waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:47 PM
0

sigh No Disney heroes are what TRPers claim they were told women want: timid, passive, milquetoast, ugly (the "looks don't matter" whine). If they grew up on Disney n internalised it, they'd conclude girls like good-looking guys with a mix of alpha n beta traits. Other than Beauty n the Beast, all your examples fall flat. And even there, Gaston is pure alpha = asshole = a turn-off for a lot of girls (but by no means all girls as demonstrated by his adoring blondes). Aladdin fits the lovable rogu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 11:27 AM
1

None of the guys you mentioned were passive timid nice guys or beta with 0 alpha. Pure alpha = asshole. Pure beta = doormat. they're displaying a lot of beta behaviors while retaining some alpha ones. Er, that's what RP theory acknowledges as being most attractive for LTRs; the right mix of alpha/beta. That's not helping the "we were deceived by Disney" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 06:09 PM
2

Give examples of what you're describing, where the heroine has to choose b/w a hot "beta" n a hot "alpha". It's not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:14 PM
2

Not "brainwashing", just fantasy n entertainment, the same purpose DC n Marvel serve for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:49 PM
4

That's an awful lot of hamstering to reject the obvious. He's never just "nice", esp. not in a "nice guy" way; he's always handsome, daring, heroic, noble. A lot like the heroes in romance novels, actually. It's prince charming or the handsome prince, never the nice prince or prince nice guy. The only film where a woman had to choose b/w a hot good guy n an ugly good guy, she choose the former. Again, this is the message most ppl get from Disney princess movies. It's only TRPers on PPD who someh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:44 PM
7

There is no "subtext", it's explicit. There are no ugly heroes n when there are, they don't get the girl (see: Quasimodo). There are even movies where the heroine states that she dreams of a handsome prince or notes her love interest's good looks. The heroine always ends up with a daring dashing man. Never a nice guy ™. Name one Disney romantic hero who is passive, milquetoast n ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 11:06 AM
8

No the prince being handsome is vital. That's the first thing Ariel notes about Eric n Aurora talks about dreaming of a "tall, handsome prince". Quasimodo was good, kind, brave n loved Esmeralda, she still chose Phoebus (who was good, kind, brave, loved her n was attractive.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 10:36 AM
1

Isn't the average divorce among post-wall ppl? 54% of divorcées are firmly in the "hell no" camp n only 15% are in the "yes" camp. I imagine the just-divorced would be even less enthused about remarriage. I don't doubt a 20-something divorcee who married her high school bf probably wants another go but manospherians are always going on about bored post-wall housewives thinking they'll get cash n prizes n a handsome millionaire if they divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:52 AM
3

Pretty much, when TRPers say the average man lives in a sexual desert, what they mean is the average man doesn't have the sex life of a rapper which is what they aspire to, but most men (BPers) can't be bothered to put in the effort to achieve that lifestyle n are able to make do with a boring normal life. Much like how most women would rather be a bit chubby n eat whatever whenever than put in the effort to have a thigh gap n 22 " waist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:16 AM
9

Disney never told them that, Disney told them this. I will fight anyone who claims Disney taught them girls love nice passive ugly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 06:29 AM
1

It's not, some ppl just like going on rants about misamdry n double standards n blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 09:46 PM
1

I honestly don't get all the comparing dildos to robots itt. No one can deny they'd find it weird as hell if a girl had a blow-up doll she rode.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:33 PM
2

Yeah, crying at work sounds insane, maybe that guy works at a suicide hotline or something, or works with a lot of ppl going through breakdowns. Strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:13 PM
2

Right, this is why it's not uncommon for men to disappear from their kids' lives post-divorce or have a bunch of bastard kids they don't care about. If they're done with a woman, they're done with her kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:07 PM
3

Judging by the front page, sluts are out n creeps are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:01 PM
2

Yes but a woman who is divorcing her husband isn't necessarily doing so b/c she thinks she can bag a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 05:46 PM
1

Omg are you me? Lol at bad manners. Adult tears make me awkward n uncomfortable like I have to comfort them but I don't know how, so I don't subject other ppl to my crying ever. I'm really good with comforting crying kids though, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:14 PM
1

The way I see it it's not necessarily damaging to the teen if it's voluntary nor is it pedophilia if we're talking about teens, but the teacher is abusing their position n there's a lot of potential for abuse n coercion so there's good reason for this sort of thing to be dealt with harshly. I don't think this double standard has sufficient justification, lots of teen girls fantasise about their hot teachers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:38 AM
1

Isn't it just obvious? It's rare for a rich woman to marry a poor man (rarer than the reverse). Generally, women don't want someone whose going to bring them down lifestyle-wise or who they have to pay for. I'm not sure it's biological b/c there are some cultures where the men are more or less useless n are selected based on looks/masculinity alone n women do all the work. Otoh, TRP's definition of hypergamy where women are constantly looking to trade up to the point that a perimenopausal divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:31 AM
2

Better life =/= marrying a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:12 AM
7

So you'd have no emotional investment or love or care or anything for your kids? I doubt you'd hear a woman express this sentiment (desire to pop out a dozen kids n dump them on their fathers) but MRAs/TRPs are shocked (shocked!) that women have custody most of the time when there are so many men who could give a damn about their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:10 AM
8

surveys indicate that divorced women usually don't even want to remarry n there's no reason why a woman in her 30s with kids would think she can get a richer man than the one she landed when she was a nulliparous 20-something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:05 AM
2

Do you think a teenage girl who has sex with her teacher is a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:08 PM
2

Start a thread on r/askreddit asking men if they'd submit to giving up all passwords n regular phone checks with no reciprocity n as standard procedure (independent of their actions) for her peace of mind. I guarantee you most will say "hell no!".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 05:25 AM
2

It's really more a male attitude than a female one. It's not like women congratulate men for getting lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 05:09 AM
3

they're doing it specifically because they're trying to change the way things currently are. This x 100. Irl a divorced father marrying a woman a bit younger is nbd unless she's literally a teen (even if she's 15+ years younger), but when a divorced mother marries a guy 5-10 years younger (who could very well be in his 30s), most of the women her age say stuff like "has she no shame?", "why would he want an older woman with a bunch of kids"? That's how it plays out irl with normal women which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 05:02 AM
2

I'll just reiterate that 99% of men don't have this fear or whatever n I'd rather not deal with the ones who do. Not sure what equality or complexity or whatever has to do with it, most self-respecting men would next a girl who demands all your passwords n wants to check your phone regularly. How about her equality n peace of mind n feelings? Besides, a guy who gets just how offensive n hurtful such a request would be of a partner whose fidelity he has no doubt in could just quietly get a test d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 04:37 AM
1

I'm inclined to think it's the same reason why gays can't donate blood, even if he's sure he's clean n monogamous, there's no guarantee his partner is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:13 AM
2

Doubt it. MRAs are mostly divorced n TRPers aren't going to marry or have kids by their own account.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:06 AM
1

This is a great idea that effectively weeds out these guys, since 99% of men don't have this weird requirement, it's easy to next a guy who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:18 AM
1

YOU buy him the paternity test. There's an olive branch he'd be a fool not to consider in his evaluation of his choice of partner. What? What's the incentive for a woman to even bother with such a man when 99% of men wouldn't even demand such a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:14 AM
1

More than 10% of men are raising kids that aren't theirs This is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:06 AM
1

Is it really though? Esp. in the good old days when prostitution was common n the main vector of STIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:04 AM
3

The lack of perspective n inability to see it from the other person's perspective is staggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:20 AM
1

Still missing the point. I commented under the auto mod b/c my point is only tangentially related to the OP. I'm referring to a v specific subset of men that are v prevalent on certain parts of the internet; not exactly some feminist straw man if they have entire subs n forums. I didn't even read anything on this thread that isn't under the automod. You're the one arguing a strawman with the blah blah women are wonderful effect typical TRP/MRA kak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:54 PM
1

Again, you're just missing the point. If you say "men shouldn't hit women", most ppl just shrug their shoulders "makes sense", the guys who get triggered n go on about how sometimes you need to 👋 a bitch, yeah Ima assume they're misogynists b/c a lot of the time they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:51 PM
1

There are entire forums n subs dedicated to jerking off over women getting KO'd, "pussy pass denied" blah blah. Yes, I think a guy who participates in that is v likely a misogynist as perfectly demonstrated by how this sentiment overlaps so well with TRP n MRA sympathies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:52 AM
1

Having to defend yourself from a violent woman isn't too common so it's not on most men's radars hence the men who are obsessed with it tend to be men who fantasise about 👋 🤛 bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:21 AM
1

I think you're missing the point I was making. Most ppl get that you have a right to defend yourself regardless of who attacks you. The reality is that female-on-male violence isn't this ever-present common threat so the men who go on n on about how they have a right to defend themselves from women n like sharing vids of women being knocked out often have issues with women. Like the ppl who live in lily white suburbs but go on about how they're armed n ready to protect themselves from hordes of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:03 AM
1

She's not talking about male-on-male fights, but about men who go on n on about needing to defend themselves against violent women. How many of these guys do you think have been physically attacked by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:47 AM
1

Men specifically have a random, unexplained, hidden evil urge to hurt women and actively look for excuses to do so for... some reason Who said men as a whole n who said it's random n unexplained? The men who go on n on about "equal fights" (a subset of men who are often found on MRA forums n reddit) v likely have resentment against women (for the usual reasons). r/pussypass n r/theredpill have a lot of overlap for a reason. Do you need stats on how many women are killed or maimed by men to demon…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 07:57 AM
1

To most normal ppl, "men shouldn't hit women" is not remotely controversial b/c it's obvious what's meant since we live in a world where men are bigger n stronger than women n kill women in relatively high numbers; the ppl who go on n on about it are either oversicialised nerd types who take everything very literally or men who have issues with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 07:05 AM
1

What does this even have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 06:46 AM
2

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:44 PM
1

Nobody denies women like rich good-looking guys irl but Christian Grey n 50 Shades is a lot more than just a girl falling for a rich hot dude, a lot of it is creepy weirdness that wouldn't translate well to real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:42 PM
1

He does want her though. Badly. He's trying to fight his desire for her b/c he doesn't want to hurt her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:54 PM
1

How old are you? My understanding is that it gets easier for men >30 but it's a bit of a paradox since the quality of the dating pool worsens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:52 PM
1

Wat 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:23 PM
1

I doubt that's how most marriages are initiated, esp. not in cultures where there isn't much sex/cohabitation outside marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:28 PM
2

I think it does. I doubt most women would respond positively to a guy who insists on a weird sex contract, is insanely clingy n jealous n full-on stalks you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:25 PM
1

You seem to be confused. Marriage is a sexual/romantic relationship > like most things sex/romance-related, men are the initiators cross-culturally. None of that precludes marriage being a financial contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:22 PM
2

You hear women saying they like poor fat slobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:46 PM
1

Right, marriage is n can be lots of things, one of those things is a formal acknowledgment of a romantic/sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:42 PM
5

You could say that but I don't buy it. I don't hear men irl going on about how they need to defend themselves against women, or women asserting that they have a right to hit men. "Equal fights" is only a thing where men who resent women gather (like reddit).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:32 PM
1

Yes. Do you understand what a romantic/sexual relationship is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:26 PM
13

I think the men who go on about this "equal fights" stuff are just itching for a reason to hit a woman, much like the ppl who go on about how they'd shoot any n-words that tried to loot their store.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 01:04 PM
1

Do you understand what ppl mean when they say "romantic/sexual relationship"? As in Bob n Alice are in a romantic relationship, it could be a shit relationship, he could beat her, or it could be like a fairy tale, either way it's a romantic/sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:53 PM
3

Ok but I'm early 20s n i don't know a single girl who read it or had any interest in it n the media hype about it was all about desperate housewives n my friends are mostly girls who loved twilight n edward when those books were all the rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:07 AM
4

It's a v typical halrequin romance type story (with S&M thrown in) where the hero is an alpha douche who is madly in love with the heroine but is too damaged to understand/express it n is ultimately saved/cured (i.e., betafied) by her love. Not red pill b/c there was no plate spinning, Grey had instant oneitis for her, n his betafication is a core part of the fantasy. I was in high-school when the book became a sensation n everybody was talking about how weird/gross it was n how their mother was…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 05:30 AM
1

It's a formal acknowledgment of a sexual/romantic relationship, not sure what "idealised expression of reality" or whatever you're saying has to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:31 AM
3

How does that preclude it being a sexual/romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:37 PM
5

It's still a romantic/sexual relationship in the eyes of most ppl n mainstream society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:51 PM
5

Even in cultures where parents control it, it's the man who asks the woman's family or the man's family who asks the woman's family. In all things romantic/sexual, men are the initiators most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:46 PM
1

I don't buy this friend zone thing. The only example of it I've ever seen was a "beta orbiter" of my sister's bff (these ppl were all like 16); this girl was the hottest girl in school, I can't emphasise enough how hot she was/is lol, lots of girls hated her n all the guys wanted her n her friend/orbiter was a nerd nowhere near her league who'd do her hw n buy her (by teen standards) expensive gifts, all this after he asked her out n she turned him down. Seeing as she was with another guy n told…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:10 PM
3

But it's really not some waw brainwashing that boys get. I can't imagine my brothers or bf behaving like that. The only case of this I've ever seen irl was in high school n involved a nerd crushing hard on my sister's super hot best friend. He knew she was way out of his league hence the favours n expensive gifts to compensate. No way he'd have done all that for an unattractive girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 06:24 PM
2

The point is that it's easier to be above-average in a country full of fat guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:36 PM
2

If you think it's hard in America, how do you think you'd fare in France or the Netherlands or some country where the men are 6ft n there's not much obesity?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:15 PM
2

Why the sudden onslaught of slut-shaming threads?? That topic is done to death!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:50 PM
1

The stereotype that they're sexually starved n confident hence horny n sexually aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:18 PM
2

My mistake, the average MILF is actually 33. In any case, I don't think it's anything biological. It's the Mrs. Robinson older sexually aggressive woman trope/meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 05:22 AM
2

How is 90% abnormal eggs n higher chance of miscarriage than live birth "pretty fertile"? There was a study where they looked at some Native American tribal women who never used birth control n near 90% of them were infertile at 45 compared to like 11% at 30. A woman in her 40s who has a previous child will have an easier time of getting pregnant than a 30 year old with no successful live births. Wat? Sources for this. Porn MILFs are like 25 which is old by porn standards, which is pretty tellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 06:33 PM
9

Yeah, everyone knows guys in their 20s who live at home. If you're aimless n have 2 working parents who are willing to keep you, you won't starve or die or whatever. I see a lot more failure to launch guys with their parents than girls tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 05:47 PM
5

I only know one girl like this n she lives with her parents. All the other unmarried mothers I know have jobs and/or live-in bfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 05:41 PM
3

Right, most of my friends are broke students from working class, lower middle class families n you couldn't tell that from their insta or fb pages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 05:35 PM
1

You can google around, the gradual decline starts around 27-32 (the exact age is unclear) n the steeper decline starts at 35-37. Beyond 35, it's a geriatric pregnancy with increased risks; even in your early 40s, most of your eggs are abnormal n by 45, a woman's likelihood of getting pregnant is no more than 3 or 4 percent
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 05:23 PM
1

This just isn't true at all, the gradual decline starts around 27-32, then it nosedives after 35. At 40, you're more likely to miscarry than have a live birth. And by 45, most women are full-on infertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 03:56 PM
1

B/c it perpetuates the myth that rapists have an identifiable "look".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 11:45 AM
1

Women do not "have" to work. Women can choose to work. You're really showing your age here, this isn't the case for anyone <30 n hasn't been the case for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 11:04 AM
2

They're still rare as a % of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 10:46 AM
1

I mean... you can disagree but those are facts. They're really not though. All things being equal, a 30-year-old will have an easier time getting pregnant than a 40-year-old. The drop-off is around 35 for most women, after that it becomes significantly more difficult. After 36, they actually call it a geriatric pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 10:24 AM
3

Anorexics n ppl with serious medical problems from being too thin are rare in western countries, esp. compared to ppl dying n getting sick from fatness. Idk why you're hating on skinny girls all over this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 10:09 AM
1

Pakistani? Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 04:36 AM
3

Rich n famous isn't the "best lifestyle" to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 05:20 AM
2

Since when does liberal mean anti-capitalist? Even centre-left parties in most Western countries support free markets. You're conflating liberal n socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 04:15 PM
2

Your argument is a lot like the asinine "capitalism makes the poor poorer" argument. Capitalism = more wealth, yes, a big % of that wealth may go to ppl at the top, but everyone still gets richer. Its the same with the SMP. There is a lot more non-marital sex all round, just b/c some guys benefited more than others, doesn't mean most men didn't benefit. Few men would wanna go back to chaperoned dates n marrying your first gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 03:58 PM
4

This was the precise argument offered in support of feminism, "women's lib" and no-fault divorce It was? Can you produce anything by 60s feminists suggesting this? From what I gather the argument was that marriage n conventional sexual morality is oppressive, patriarchal, capitalist, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 03:49 PM
10

Yeah I'm not too impressed, but Brits are notoriously unattractive so that might not be too surprising…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 03:23 PM
3

Truer words haven't been spoken on this sub, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 12:44 PM
2

Every actual scientific study ever done on paternity fraud, in multiple cultures and time periods, finds it to be very rare. It's rare even among men with high levels of paternity uncertainty (i.e., even men who think there's a good chance they're not the father, are the father the vast majority of the time). I can agree with 1 and 2, 3 is overkill. If you want a paternity test, pay for it yourself. I don't see how 4 can be implemented.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 10:29 AM
6

You're dead wrong here, the duty not to harm underpins any ethical or moral system you can think of. Even ancaps have the NAP. Your understanding of individualism is sociopathy or nihilism not individualism as it is typically defined n understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:42 PM
1

It's a woman's body by definition (she's a woman!), not feminine or womanly though n esp. not compared to #2.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:39 PM
4

Haha, I remember an article from a year or two ago about him cheating on his 28-y/o gf with a 25-y/o 😂 He had his ninth kid or something recently with a 20-something. I honestly think ppl are just grossed out, rather than jealous, esp. with the extreme cases like Jagger, Hefner, the old dude Ana Nicole smith married, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:18 PM
2

I don't recall anyone complaining about that age gap or calling Amal a victim. If anything, feminists were glad he married a "post-wall" professional woman instead of a young VS model or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:06 PM
2

Are we talking about the same girl? #3 has no waist or hips to speak of. She's fit n very pretty but doesn't have a womanly figure at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 10:46 AM
2

She has no hips n no waist n lots of muscle, how is that womanly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 10:09 AM
1

Did either of these girls call the police n cry rape? Lying to one's mother about late night antics is relatively blasé n not at all in the realm of a false rape accusation, which, if anything, brings more attention to the sexual encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:28 AM
1

Right, my point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:16 AM
2

Your reasoning seems to be based on the premise that discrimination = bad n has to be justified. I disagree. The right to discriminate = freedom of association n can only be impinged in certain specific situations. Jobs is one of those areas where, IMO (which is also the mainstream view), the costs outweigh the benefits. I also don't see how you could rectify sexual or romantic discrimination. It's not the state's job nor within its capacity to ensure everyone has friends n lovers; employment n …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 10:11 AM
1

2 guys is blase, but 5 is sluttery to the point that a girl would cry rape to save her honour? Not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 09:51 AM
2

Why does "like" come into it? You're hiring a worker, not a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 05:05 PM
2

Yeah, I've already seen it. I'd wager that if she had settled, it'd have been an article about her affair n subsequent divorce n she'd have a bunch of anecdotes from happily divorced/single mothers talking about their miserable married friends n how over-rated marriage is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:06 AM
1

If she wanted to avoid looking like a slut, she'd say she was gang-raped by all 5. There'd be no motive for her to say some were consensual n some were rape. In what universe is a 2-man train non-slutty but a 5-man train is? To most ppl, she crossed the slut threshold when she agreed to let 2 guys fuck her at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:32 AM
3

Employers discriminate against unqualified ppl all the time, even though IQ, drive, temperament, etc (i.e., the things that make a good/bad worker) are mostly genetic n out of ppl's control. A sexual/romantic partner needs to be desirable to the person in question; if I like tall guys, a short guy isn't qualified, so to speak. No different to a basketball team discriminating against short guys, or a modelling agency discriminating against ugly girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:23 AM
2

He doesn't have to be objectively "hot", just attractive enough to her, I see this all the time with my girlfriends, they rave on n on about how hot their new guy is n we see a pic or meet the guy n the rest of us are like "really?". I also seriously question the necessity of marriage (esp. to a lacklustre man) n children for long-term happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 06:21 AM
3

Yeah, I don't get it. Like a ONS with a D-list celebrity or something might be a fun memory but it's a guy you were in love with n had lots of memories with that's more likely to leave you a "widow" with altered expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 06:12 AM
2

I could give a rats ass if I produce anything of use to society, but I need a paycheck to survive. This is most ppl, women included. This is how capitalism works, whether you want to benefit society or not, everyone doing what they gotta do (i.e., paid work) to have the lifestyle they want is what keeps the system going. It's a minority of ppl who cure diseases n invent shit n are truly indispensable n I doubt not getting laid as young men is going to deter those sorts from pursuing their ambiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 05:38 AM
1

How would even you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:58 AM
4

Oh boy, not this again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:18 PM
1

Social circles are actually quite homogenous, her friends n acquaintances, ppl she sees at parties/events, etc would be mostly within her class n that's the pool from which romantic partners are usually drawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:17 PM
2

The vast, vast majority of porn is aimed at men. Attempts to sell porn to women have failed or end up being consumed mostly by gay men. Remember Playgirl?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:20 PM
3

For real, the TRPers who say stuff like that are just displaying their own low value n thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:49 PM
1

I got 14, seems about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:21 PM
6

Everything you say about millennials seems to be more true of the sorts of ppl who congregate online than the gen as a whole. The socially anxious, neurotic, "weird", etc congregate online, esp. places like reddit. Your view of millennials is being clouded by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:57 AM
4

If you're a group sex kinda guy, it's not fathomable that you'd want a 3some with 2 hot chicks but wouldn't want their 3 fat friends to join in?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 07:32 PM
6

I can link dozens of gang rapes by college athletes. Can you link any other cases of a girl in a gangbang saying she consented to some guys, but other guys raped her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 04:04 AM
6

It's not feminism. Go to India or Saudi or America 100 years ago (or any non-feminist society) n see what they believe about young women being alone with unrelated (let alone drunk!) men. TRPers hold this rather sane view then combine it with heaping blame n outrage at the victim n simultaneously whining that women treat men like rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 04:00 AM
3

Because "this specific group of men in this specific situation are likely rapists n liars" = "men (in general) are by default guilty". Try again, this time with less persecution complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 03:52 AM
14

She's drunk, struggling to put on clothes n these 3 random uninvited by her dudes just keep going? How is that not rape? Why would she use "I wanted 2 guys at once, but then 3 joined in uninvited" as a anti-slut rationalisation instead of "I was gang raped by 5 dudes?" The distance between non-slutty behaviour n group sex is much bigger than that between 2-man gangbang and 5-man gangbang.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:57 PM
17

What's more likely: 3 high t young men saw an easy lay in a drunk girl being tag-teamed by their buddies n went for it (her consent be damned), or that drunk girl consented to sex with 5 dudes then only accused 3 of rape? The first scenario seems even more likely when you consider that these sorts of gang rapes aren't unheard of among football players.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:26 PM
1

😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:44 AM
2

He's saying women fuck chads in the short-term but settle for schlubs for LTRs because those are the only guys willing to settle down. AF/BB, classic TRP. Ofc, it's nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:11 PM
2

Is this a serious q? Obvs, rich ppl who'll now have a few less properties each are way better off than ppl who were living on the bare minimum together n now will be even poorer single. That's like saying it's better to get sick in Zimbabwe than America b/c it'll cost more in the States.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:37 AM
2

Better than an investment in education is an investment into chasity which for any woman of natural beauty will be a one way ticket to any heaven on earth she chooses. wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:28 AM
1

We can look at trends and extrapolate from that. This is a particularly well-established trend. It's the same even with supermarket goods, women are more likely to buy products marketed to men than men are to buy products marketed to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:49 AM
1

You should look up stats on this, for books, films, etc. If it's made by or starring a woman, men tend to stay away, regardless of genre. It's why J.K. Rowling didn't publish under Joanne Rowling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:59 PM
2

If Mary Shelley wasn't assigned in school no one would read Frankenstein. What? They wouldn't assign Frankenstein in school if it was crap. It's widely considered the first sci fi novel n a classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:59 PM
2

Reminds me of serial killer groupies, for some reason some women love a violent psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:57 AM
4

It's not a natural instinct. It's 100% cultural, lots of cultures in the past n now view women poorly n as a source of evil, temptation, etc. See: Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 06:47 PM
1

The workplace death thing doesn't make sense to me. There are regulations n safety standards that are constantly being improved n workplace deaths have been declining for ions. MRAs seem to be complaining that not enough women are dying at work. Adoptions involve teen mothers n unwed young women, the father is unknown or dgaf in those circumstances which is why they're not consulted. Legally, a man could block the adoption of his bio kid, but this doesn't happen very often b/c if a woman is adop…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 08:52 AM
1

The whole point of a movement is to get ppl to care; nobody cared about slaves, factory workers or AIDS sufferers until they made ppl care through action, often at great risk to themselves n in the face of (sometimes violent) opposition n hostility. MRAs clearly don't consider their "cause" worth the trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 09:24 AM
6

Ah, Elam of "bash a violent bitch month" n "if I'm ever a juror in a rape trial, I'll acquit no matter what" fame n Roosh of "rape should be legal on private property" fame. I wonder why a movement with these delightful human beings as their spearheads is widely viewed as a bad joke. I mean, the first step to being taken seriously is actually being serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 05:21 PM
2

In the other thread there were many responses of "well, if you men want something, be like the feminists did and march and agitate and bitch and threaten." Men don't work that way. Other than feminism, all other social movements involved men banding together n agitating for their interests; civil rights movement, labor movement, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 05:12 PM
7

So white straight men aren't really oppressed, or at least not enough for them to bother actually agitating for change n risking the consequences like all other social movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:49 PM
6

That's not what the law says. Damn n I thought teaching men about consent was unnecessary, but apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:15 PM
2

So if a woman says no/stop in the middle of act n you keep going, what do you call that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:04 AM
5

So what exactly is consent and do you believe that women should be able to pull consent back AFTER the deed has been done? Nobody believes this, why are MRAs obsessed with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:04 AM
3

Far-leftists have always been like that, it's like how the far-right calls everything "Marxist".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:38 PM
2

Liberal in the classical sense as in "classical liberal".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:30 PM
1

The same in the Netherlands, despite all the info out there a lot of ppl still don't seem to realise that legalisation is far from a panacea n actually worsens conditions in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:37 AM
1

When did I ever say poor grades = discrimination for anyone of any skin colour? Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 09:17 AM
2

Why would poor grades automatically mean discrimination?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 06:49 PM
1

Yep, agree 100% with your most recent OP btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 06:04 PM
2

Like this? not that we need peer-reviewed meta-studies in prestigious scientific journals to discuss fairly simple n common observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 06:03 PM
1

Most of the pop. is fat, it's not that hard to be a bit above-average if you're actively trying. I'm a firm believer that if you don't like what you can get n you're incapable of/unwilling to raise your SMV then sitting out is the best option. I just don't believe this is the case for most ppl. Even for low SMV folk, I see 3s n 4s hand in hand at the local shopping mall all the time. I mean you or I wouldn't want to date those ppl, but they have takers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:29 PM
2

If the best version of yourself is still not good enough (say you're a 4 who maxed out at 6 but only has eyes for 8s), then your standards are too high to be achievable n if you can't lower them then yeah quitting is the best option. But as a general rule, becoming a more desirable person never hurt anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 02:58 PM
1

I get that but there's literally nothing to be gained by giving up n wallowing in self-pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 12:25 PM
1

HDI combines a range of factors, the closest thing to measuring objective standard of living on a global scale, n the US still isn't #1 there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 09:41 AM
0

Shoot for the moon, even if you fall you'll land on a star? Even going from a 4 to a 6 gives you more n better options. I don't understand this defeatist attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:49 AM
1

Why do you even want female platonic friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:39 AM
1

Yeah, that was a weird comment. He explained that "acting black" apparently means having leftist politics… weird way to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:22 AM
1

Not true, Canada has the richest middle class, Australia has the biggest middle class, Switzerland has highest average wealth per adult, Norway has the highest HDI, etc. The only thing the US is #1 in is having the richest rich ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:19 AM
3

Very true, but mainstream/white America sees him as black n he married into n ingratiated himself into US black culture. It's like how a 2nd gen (insert Euro ethnicity here)-American would just get lumped into white culture n identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:43 PM
1

To your north you have Canada, and Justin Trudeau acts way more ''black'' than Obama What does "acting black" mean in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:59 PM
2

Hmm, I tend to think that personality is ultimately a product of genetic dispositions + how said dispositions interact with your (esp. early childhood) environment n circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:13 AM
2

Never heard of it either, sounds like male projection. What I hear more often is so-n-so's bf is a loser or a douchebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:05 AM
5

They want to be loved for who they are as a person (personality, character AND looks, i.e., the whole package) Most ppl don't realise how much of all that is determined by genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 03:48 AM
2

I don't buy the protective instinct at all, I think the appeal of the damsel in distress scenario is being a brave hero n being rewarded with a girl for your feats.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 03:22 AM
3

Most men aren't aware of just how shitty their lives are. So they're experiencing false consciousness then? Nobody ever claims "ALL men are doing ok". All that's said is, generally, most ppl tend to be content with their lot; that doesn't mean it's 100% sunshine n roses 100% of the time for 100% of ppl. "The bottom 80%" is doing mostly fine by their own accounts. There are no "problems in the SMP" by definition, it's an unregulated free market driven by nothing but individual choices. If you (no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:03 AM
1

Rational Male Omg, Rollo is the worst. Verbose unreadable trash; he's a horrendous writer. I'm not a TRPer but at least Roissy could be a fun read sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 03:30 AM
6

So women can't say anything on the topic? You realise hetero relationships involve women? You can't talk about "problems in the SMP" n "the bottom 80%" n then make it all about you n your own experiences. That's the height of solipsism. So again, proof? And remember my first q What's your response to the fact that most studies/surveys on this find that the majority of married men are happy? has nothing to do with you or me but rather men generally. Are they lying or experiencing false consciousn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:58 PM
3

Agreed. I still don't get this at all. How is some ppl struggling = there's a "problem in the SMP"? It's a weird collectivist view of a totally free unregulated market driven by nothing but individual choices. Ppl who aren't getting what they want need to take a good hard look at themselves not whine about "problems in the SMP".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:41 PM
4

Irrelevant. So, no answer then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:38 PM
3

You need to read some early roissy before you say "nobody ever said that". It's fairly recently that TRPers have started rejecting literal 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:27 PM
6

What reasons are there to assume that a) there are "problems in the SMP" (whatever that means in a free market) n b) the "bottom 80%" are married to "deeply flawed women who treat them like shit"? So far, you've provided no proof for either of these claims whereas there's myriad of data that suggests most paired up ppl are content with their lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:25 PM
9

80/20 is pants on head retarded so now goalposts have shifted to "but…but most men don't get everything they want all the time in the SMP".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:04 PM
5

What's your response to the fact that most studies/surveys on this find that the majority of married men are happy? Where's the evidence for your claim that most men are in these awful marriages with harpies? It sounds based more on henpecked husband stereotypes n RP horror stories than anything substantial.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:00 PM
2

I hate long comments but this was mostly brilliant. I LOLed at the last para, so many are shocked n outraged when vocal male "feminists" turn out to be men like any other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 07:42 AM
1

Groupies don't exactly need to be smooth-talked or "gamed" into banging musicians nor do they typically expect relationships with these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:43 AM
1

Any dating/sexual strategy only works if the woman is attractive to the men she wants. 80% of the U.S. pop is urban n not sure what education, class or race has to do with it. Do you think blacks n hispanics are more averse to promiscuity? I live among proles n even teen mothers who had their first kid at 17 have serious bfs within their SMV range. If anything, the lower classes are trashier n care less about these things. Maybe it's different in the sticks n in very religious communities but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:21 AM
1

DJT is not advancing the "slut-shaming" cause, none of his women are demure virgins. Rock stars, athletes n all sorts of alphas marry the sluttiest sluts all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 05:10 AM
3

There are nudes n girl-on-girl pics of DJT's wife out there, he dgaf 😂 alphas commit to sluts all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 09:02 AM
1

I'm guessing they never liked that stuff but just did it to rope you in n once they "got" you it became too tedious to keep it up. It's like that joke about the bride smiling b/c she knows she's given her last BJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:35 AM
1

You could start with STD rates, out of wedlock births, age at marriage, etc across cultures. Or talking to ppl familiar with those cultures. Sounds like you've never left the West n have no idea what the rest of the world is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 05:22 AM
1

You're dead wrong if you think there's as much casual sex in India or Saudi or even 1850s America as there is in the West today.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 05:38 PM
0

That comment made me 😂 no idea what he's going on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 09:23 AM
1

You're not going to convince me that in a DECADES-long relationship an average man with low inhibitions, average/low standards n a wife who isn't monitoring his every move couldn't cheat at least ONCE if he actively tried. It doesn't have to be an ongoing affair or a series of flings nor am I saying its easy, it could just be a ONS in a faraway city after many fails. IIRC, you said you were propositioned by a girl in her 20s recently (so you're above-average) but you're arguing getting laid extr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 08:51 AM
1

All the men who I know who've cheated irl made opportunities happen by seeking them out. That's what I'm saying: it's not impossible for an average guy who actively wants to cheat to pull it off, not that average men have "opportunities" just falling into their laps all the time. The men who don't cheat mostly don't b/c they can't be bothered, if an opportunity was just presented to them they'd probably take it but going out to look for it is not worth the trouble…until it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:55 AM
1

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying it's easy, I'm not saying pussy just falls into average joe's lap, I'm also not saying average guys don't have any shyness or neurosis. I'm saying redditors/TRPers have above-average levels of neurosis, introversion, inceldom, etc n that clouds their experiences. TRPers especially given the nature of the sub. It's like hanging out at the comp sci or engineering dept. at uni. The joke that redditors are nerds who don't get laid exists for a reason. You c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:50 AM
1

I don't think it's easy at all, I just don't think it's prohibitively difficult for an average guy with average (or low) standards n average social skills to be able to cheat at least once in a decades-long marriage. IMO, most TRPers/redditors aren't average n have a distorted view of average. The introverted, omega, neurotic n socially inept are highly over-represented in these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 12:54 PM
1

Nah, stats, pop culture, most ppl's experiences seem to line pretty well with what I see around me. Ask around, start a thread. The idea that only top men cheat b/c it's impossible for all other men is very fringe n I've only ever seen it expressed by TRPers who are probably self-selected for omega-ness, introversion, neuroticism n high inhibitions (it's reddit n a sub for sexually unsuccessful men at that).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 08:14 AM
1

You're just going to ignore the other half of that comment n my next comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:02 AM
1

Don't cheaters cheat b/c they want strange? If you're allowed strange I don't see the point of cheating unless one likes the deception aspect of it. It's never a free for all unless you're a rock star, all I'm disputing is that it's literally impossible for any man outside the "top 20%" to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:37 AM
1

How? The men among my family, friends, acquaintances n neighbours aren't self-selected for attractiveness n it's not even the most attractive ones that cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:20 AM
1

It's more that ppl see men around them cheating n divorces n family drama caused by cheating. Not to mention almost every young woman has either been hit on or has friends who've been hit on by married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 06:39 PM
1

Wouldn't cheating be moot among the open marriage crowd?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 06:37 PM
1

At least 1/4 if not more of married men cheat. This notion that in a relationship spanning decades an average guy can't get strange even once due to unattractiveness is just absurd on its face. For whatever reason, some TRPers think average man = omega/incel/reddit nerd. Most men being married to women who are turned off by them is a TRP myth. Men will never get as much sex as they want b/c there's a libido gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 06:35 PM
2

a passionate romp at a conference. That's still cheating. You can google it, any reputable study has it at at least 1/4, often more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 06:28 PM
2

You must be new around here, you're never going to be able to convince them that most men aren't incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:25 AM
3

How do men get laid at all if it's as impossible as you lot claim? How do so many of them cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:03 AM
3

No study on this ever finds less than 1/4 of married men cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:02 AM
2

Multiple women here over n over telling of break-ups that had nothing to do with attraction but you spin them all so they fit your narrative. That's not objective observation, it's hamstering. Also lol @ the notion that women irl are just openly telling a man all about their relationships, sexual attraction, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:48 PM
2

Just reporting on your observations of what's going on in women's minds n lives? Unless you've got telepathy, you're taking info n spinning it into your own made up narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:39 PM
2

Don't you know that he knows the females n their lives/experiences better than they themselves do? Arguing is futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:33 PM
6

the mental gymnastics here 😂😂 when you've got a hammer everything looks like a nail.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:30 PM
1

Outside of sub-Saharan Africa, fertility is plummeting everywhere, we're gonna reach peak population mid-century.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 06:02 PM
1

I didn't find Brits unfriendly at all, opposite actually even in London, I had lots of convos with strangers. The ppl who think poms are cold n unfriendly would not like the Netherlands or Scandinavia, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:26 PM
3

Jesus, why are you so angry, that's just asking for ppl to rile you up more in a setting like this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:05 AM
1

Nothing lasts forever, but the English have been around for over a millennium n still dominate their corner of the globe. It remains to be seen if America can last as one entity for any significant length of time. Also, I'm not British or American so I got no dog in this fight 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:02 AM
1

Temporary marriage is a Shi'a thing, 90% of Muslims are Sunni. I'm gonna need sources on CS, as per the quran n hadith men only have to provide funds for nursing infants. There is no dowry. There is mahr that is paid by the man to the woman either at the time of marriage or stipulated to be paid if he divorces her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:51 AM
4

They ruled 1/3 of the world at one point n birthed your country…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:52 AM
2

That's the Welsh not the English, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:44 AM
1

Hey, to us $10,000 p/month is a lot but it's chump change for Chris Brown.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:48 AM
3

Grass is greener. If she'd settled, we'd be reading an article about her affair n divorce n the woes of settling. I don't think it's possible to be happy with settling in this culture, maybe in India or the 1700s where there weren't so many options n temptations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:34 AM
2

Nope, look up what the average CS payment is n how often they're even paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:17 PM
1

It's not legal to have more than 4 at a time. It wouldn't be acceptable at all, it's like the POTUS having two wives at the same time, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:27 PM
2

No the royals actually divorce plenty. You can only have 4 at a time n the last king was married to like 30 in his lifetime so it's a constant process of recycling wives. Bin Laden's dad did the same thing. That's how uber-rich gulf Arabs roll. It's like the kings of old with the mistresses n courtesans that are constantly being replaced. I was talking about your average Mohammed in most Muslim countries; divorce is easy for men n hard for women n polygamy is rare b/c women loathe it n most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:09 PM
1

But everyone wants their own money n the satisfaction n independence that brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 04:52 PM
6

TRPers/MRAs don't wanna hear it but most men don't want full custody n having to spare a relatively small amount of $ a month for your kids is hardly some extreme burden esp. compared to the burden of the parent spending most of their income on the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 04:38 PM
1

Pretty much any Muslim country.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 04:32 PM
1

How are you red pill? That reads like a very naive view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 04:18 PM
1

As far back as the Middle Ages it wasn't unusual for a 1/4 of the population in some parts of Europe to never marry or reproduce. It's really no biggie. The ppl who think Japan, which has had civilisation for millennia, is going to descend into the Stone Age because of some hermits have no idea what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:37 PM
4

Japan is nowhere near being reduced to ppl having to wipe their backsides with leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 03:45 PM
3

Hyperbole much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:08 AM
2

Haha, good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:02 AM
5

Not true at all. There were always weird aspies who couldn't get laid n there were always charming cads. See: Lord Byron, Cassanova, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 08:50 AM
2

Disagree 100%. If settling is so great for women, why would this woman, who didn't settle herself btw, need to write this article coaxing women into settling? It's a bad deal, most women know it n avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:56 AM
5

Not "this generation", just some weirdos who think being socially inept n into obscure shit makes them better than the "basic" ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 07:29 AM
1

The NAP applies to individuals too. You can't kill a guy n steal his house b/c you need a house in ancapstan. You're using these words in very odd ways that don't comport with how they're typically defined n understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:01 PM
1

Sperm donor mothers try to goad them into settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:33 PM
1

Ancaps reject the use of force or violence against others to get what you want. How is that consistent with your view that individualism = pursuing one's self-interest with no regard for harming others, and collectivism = don't harm others?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:30 PM
1

Is anarcho-capitalism individualist or collectivist in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:05 PM
1

Ppl who call out racism are the opposite of collectivist, ppl who espouse racism are collectivist. Take it from Ayn Rand. Ppl don't care very much about the candidate as a person so much as his rhetoric n policies. That's why feminists loved shameless serial sexual harasser Bill Clinton n evangelicals voted for twice divorced adulterer Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 07:49 PM
1

My understanding is that TRP theory is descriptive, rather than prescriptive. However, when TRPers are encouraging/discouraging certain behaviours (based on TRP "truths") that others might denounce as immoral, they retort that "sexual strategy is amoral".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 07:45 PM
1

I didn't say moral nihilism necessitates not following a normative moral code, just that it's a rejection of the existence of "right" and "wrong" which is more or less how TRPers view morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 06:38 PM
2

When I say "-isms" I mean sexism, classism, racism, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 06:11 PM
2

"Duty not to harm others" =/= collectivism, unless you believe ancaps are "collectivist". Ethical uniformity with identity being special snowflakism that runs counter to do. What? The "-isms" are issues b/c they erase the individual n reduce him to a caricature of a particular group. You don't have this concern about "-isms" in actual collectivist cultures b/c the individual isn't paramount n groups are a valid way of characterising ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 06:01 PM
4

I'm going by the traditional definition of "collectivism". You're conflating collectivism with moral universalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 05:57 PM
4

No they're not. You're using the term "collectivism" erroneously. The obsession with bigotry is borne of the idea that every individual should be treated as an individual (as opposed to a member of a group) n has inherent dignity. This is what "western values" are based on. It's very individualistic as is the culture that spawned it. Actual collectivist societies view individuals as members of groups first n foremost n have no patience for nonconformists n members of out-groups. There's no SJWs …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 05:45 PM
2

BP has a duty to not harm others. Every system has this, the difference is what constitutes "harm". Even Randians and ancaps have the NAP. Collectivism = there is a collective whose interests supersede any individual and ppl should sacrifice their own goals/desires for said collective. TBP doesn't seem to be about that at all. The whole SJW n special snowflake mindset is incompatible with collectivism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 04:55 PM
4

Actually, BPers are more "do your thing and don't harm others" where "harm" is defined very broadly (all the "-isms"). There's all sorts of non-mainstream "degenerate" identities represented there (poly, trans, SJW, etc) n there's no talk about society or civilisation or family or any collective. The dislike of TRP is b/c they perceive it as a guide for men on how to abuse women. TRPers are the ones who go on n on about sluts, single mothers, chads, etc not b/c these ppl are actively harming any…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 04:17 PM
5

I don't see an individualist/collectivist divide between the pills. It's more a distinction between moral universalists and moral nihilists (or perhaps egoists). You seem to be conflating collectivism with moral universalism. In fact, the most individualistic cultures on earth are simultaneously very universalist (northern Euro Protestant cultures).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 03:36 PM
4

Simply not caring about the morality and ethics of your actions isn't individualism. Right, that's nihilism, which I think describes TRP better than individualism. Edit: moral nihilism in the sense that "there's no right and wrong", which is a lot closer to TRP than individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 10:30 AM
1

Most women are marrying men they met in their early 20s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:18 AM
1

But most married men tend to be satisfied with their marriages and sex lives. A few posters have linked relevant surveys/studies in this thread. Nobody gets everything they want or is happy all the time, but most people are content. Also, nobody ever said all men in relationships are happy. It's just an attempt to shift the goalposts b/c "80% of men are incels" is pants on head retarded, so now it's most men don't get what they want even in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 07:03 PM
1

women are just as sexual as men. This is not a RP view.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:34 AM
7

Classic shifting the goalposts. First, it was 80% of men get no sex, when that was dismissed by everyone as absurd, it shifted to men don't get all the sex and good feels they want out of relationships. No shit, no one gets everything they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:03 AM
1

In America, white men could vote in all states since 1856; women didn't have that until 1920.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:13 AM
1

Patriarchy = patrilineal society where men predominate in leadership positions. That's every civilisation ever. It doesn't mean every man is superior to every woman, not even the feminist definition argues that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:02 AM
2

Traditionally, women in the elite class were still subordinate to men of their class. What do you think the golden era TRPers harken back to was like?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:07 PM
4

This is a weird TRP view of reality where most men are omegas. It doesn't reflect reality as I see it at all. It's not hard for horny guys with low standards to get around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:40 PM
4

The woman is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:46 PM
6

Patriarchy in the traditional sense (patrilineal, men dominate leadership positions, etc) describes pretty much every large-scale civilisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:46 AM
1

Trump is completely vulnerable to the elite, in fact, because he knows literally nothing about politics and is absolutely reliant on advisors. Utterly reliant. It's odd how none of the "trump is anti-establishment" people noticed this. Homeboy is a novice who'll be surrounded by party elite and insiders.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:50 AM
7

He said he loves this girl as his daughter and doesn't want to hurt her. From what he's written, I doubt he'd have the stomach to ditch her and not feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:36 AM
3

Do you genuinely think he'd feel happy and be better off if he ditched a child he'd raised and believed to be his own for 15 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:48 AM
1

So some googling revealed cannibalism may have been more common than I thought in prehistory… still hardly universal though and stopped being a norm even for most primitive tribes who practiced it at least a century ago. You don't think it's disordered in some way for a person in a highly industrialised modern environment to fantasise about dashing baby's heads and exocannibalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:41 AM
3

That may be your reality, but it's definitely not reality for most men. Women always have more options than men, until 50+ when men start dying off and the sex ratio favours men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:11 PM
1

I'm not arguing that humanity is a thing, my point is that the kind of ultraviolence you described is viscerally gross and far from normal in most cultures. That's an interesting theory about the cannibalism taboo, anywhere where I can read more about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 07:10 PM
1

That's a bit excessive. Canabalism is banned in most religions and the scenario you described would strike most people as deranged and pathological. There are even tales in ancient mythologies/religions about the uber evil villain eating their enemies organs meant to highlight how vile said villain is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:40 PM
6

Right, lol at all these guys going on about how unattractive she is. She's plenty hot for her age and is married to a decent-looking novelist/entrepreneur her age, she isn't competing with teenage girls anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:23 PM
1

real life got interesting & this place got boring. Last I remember, every second thread was about incels, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:16 PM
1

Either you haven't been here long or you're trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:15 PM
8

The guy was in the military, that lot are notorious for cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 03:46 AM
2

Women avoiding men who creep them out isn't the same as actively hating and wanting to harm those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 09:35 AM
2

Who says morality has to be a rigid set of rules that have to be followed uniformly context be damned?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:38 PM
3

If feminine morality is care and context-based, this means that those notions are the highest goal, just as justice or strength may be the highest goal under another system. You still need to reason or rationalise what the most "caring" approach is in a given situation just as you'd need reason to determine what the most "just" approach would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:09 PM
6

Based on the person or society or group's values and beliefs. Which are based on their feelz.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:53 PM
5

A desired goal is determined by feelz. You may say "pleasure" or "growth" is the ideal and form a system around that, a woman might say "caring" and "the common good" is the ideal. None of it is more realz than feelz.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:48 PM
8

Your article argues that women are all about care and context whereas men are about principles. What does intuition have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:46 PM
2

How do you determine "desired outcomes"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:32 PM
8

Neither of these methods of moralising are realz-based because ultimately feelz determine what's moral. Prioritising care and context over rigid principles isn't the same as basing morality on visceral disgust (which is what you're describing).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:31 PM
9

The decision about what constitutes a moral good is entirely feelz-based to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:17 PM
10

How can any morality be based on realz?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:52 PM
3

That sub is like 900 people. I think the hapas problems are less about raw SMV and more about inferiority complexes and an extreme desire to be white, which is compounded by being almost there, so close…yet so far, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:09 PM
3

Lol, not talking about "yellow fever" or sex tourists. I'm talking specifically about mixed-race people. If you just type "why are mixed…" into Google, all the results are "why are mixed-race people more attractive/cuter/etc". Again, there have been studies done on this and it's a pretty widely known phenomenon. I'm actually surprised you're unfamiliar with it. Perhaps it's not a thing in Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:15 PM
6

So? I wasn't talking about your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:47 PM
2

Do you have any evidence that the average IQ has been decreasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:30 AM
2

Manufacturing and heavy labour jobs in general have been declining rapidly for a while now, and it's only getting worse with increasing automation. I don't see how needing firefighters negates the need for people, usually uneducated prole women, to look after the growing elderly population.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:55 AM
3

They're too busy working, or lunching, or volunteering, or doing whatever it is that rich white women whose kids are raised by nannies do. A few articles about a bizarre novelty doesn't a trend make. And aside from (increasingly irrelevant) manual labour jobs, are there any jobs where men are absolutely needed? All the caring type professions aren't going to be automated anytime soon, aged care staff, cleaning staff, etc. It's not like men can't do these jobs, but they don't seem to want to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:42 AM
2

The few rich white people who have babies aren't gonna need poor uneducated women to raise their kids for them? Not to mention, all the bottom of the barrel service sector jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:26 AM
4

Elliot Rodger wasn't bad-looking at all. He had an amalgamation of mental and personality issues, and probably wasn't neurotypical. I don't think most hapas are that fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:24 AM
3

I disagree. A lot of these guys are just "off", like the government girlfriends guy and Elliot Rodger, they wouldn't have found mates in an earlier era either. There's always been schizoid types and weirdos who remained lifelong bachelors. It's just that current Western society is so openly hyper-sexual and these guys can find each other online and stew in their rage and feelings of depravation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:19 AM
1

Even going by your racial hierarchy, hapas are still higher SMV than full Asians, and I've seen studies that find that mixed-race people are actually considered more attractive, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:11 AM
3

Women work too. It's not like the only thing they provide is babies. In fact, in the West, some of the most intelligent, most productive women forgo children altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:09 AM
2

So, if a guy hasn't asked out a homeless drooling old woman and got rejected, he's not "incel"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 10:52 AM
1

Withdrawing consent after the fact is not a thing, even to feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:50 AM
3

When you have no rebuttal, cry about downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:37 AM
2

Tell that to the guys who make vids asking Taylor Swift and Mila Kunis to be their date to x social function. It seems to me like you're projecting your contempt for celebrity culture onto men as a whole. I mean, you really find it hard to believe there are people who would be thrilled just by getting to chill with a famous person, no sex involved. You could argue any woman who advertises her sex appeal (most actresses do) is selling an illusion of availability, esp. when these girls go on dates…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:18 PM
2

Did you ignore this: Remember, this is the sex that throws money at non-famous camwhores and IG "models" they'll never meet, let alone fuck, and pay to go to strip clubs where they can look but not touch low-class non-famous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:28 PM
5

LOOOOL "men aren't like that". B/c men aren't the ones who pay to watch nobody low-class women they can't touch strip, throw money & gifts at cam-girls they have no chances with, pay money to meet porn-stars they have no chance with. It's not at all uncommon for men to want to spend time/money on uninterested women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:22 PM
2

You really don't think tons of guys would jump at the chance of a (free?) trip to Barcelona and to hang out with Shakira? Really?! Remember, this is the sex that throws money at non-famous camwhores and IG "models" they'll never meet, let alone fuck, and pay to go to strip clubs where they can look but not touch low-class non-famous women. But paying to see a hot celeb is beneath them. Sure… Female celebrities have done stuff like this too btw, and there's never a shortage of guys. Mila Kunis wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:14 PM
3

Repeating it doesn't make it true. I'd bet that most guys would rather fuck Jessica Alba than a Jessica Alba lookalike, even if for no other reason than so they can say they've fucked Jessica Alba.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:06 PM
9

Just getting to meet an attractive celebrity, let alone to get to sit down and chat with one, is a worthwhile experience in and of itself to a LOT of people, of both sexes. How can you live in this culture and not know that?! Just b/c you're not about that life, doesn't mean that no-one else is. I doubt any of the winners of these sorts of "have dinner with x celebrity" competitions really think they're going to get to date said celebrity. Most likely, they just think it'll be a fun experience a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:58 PM
1

We're not all Christian, and we don't all say these vows; doesn't necessarily mean that we're anti-marriage or don't believe in lifelong commitment. And they are silly and unrealistic when you think about it. "For better or worse" might sound nice in theory, but it doesn't always translate well in reality. I mean, someone's "or worse" could be fucking the mailman and abusing your kids. I'd argue you that for well-adjusted people a marriage continuing is contingent on both partners upholding thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:37 PM
1

Not really equivalent to a "welfare state" is it? That's like saying men have the safety net of crashing on a friend's coach for a few weeks if they get evicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:22 PM
2

Don't expect an answer to this one. I asked another TRPer peddling this reasoning the exact same question and got crickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 12:17 PM
2

Elaborate. Give examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:49 AM
3

I'd say the real welfare state for women are their beta orbiters and male friends. There are men who pay rent and living expenses for women they're not fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:40 AM
1

La la land. Clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:31 AM
3

Patriarchal cultures coddle and "protect" women even more. In Iran and KSA, unmarried female relatives are entitled to the money and protection of their brothers/fathers/uncles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:29 AM
2

Lol, you say you don't overestimate men's "goodness" and then go on to say they'd light themselves on fire for their women's convenience. You are exaggerating how self-sacrificial and spineless most men are by a LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:02 AM
2

Wot? You totally missed the point. In "old school" cultures where male-male sexual activity is not penalised (by women), it is common; where it is penalised in the form of reduced female attention, men avoid it. Incentives drive behaviour, in both sexes. That has nothing to do with who needs who more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 07:28 PM
3

The guy who has stage 5 oneitis on an ex-gf doesn't have emotional needs? Puh-lease.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:58 AM
3

They say this all the time as if there are welfare programs for women just for being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:35 AM
1

I don't buy the "women are more sexually fluid" claim. Go to Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, or even Ancient Greece and tell me women are more "fluid" than men. Women are more likely to indulge their bicuriousity than men in the West b/c female bisexuality is socially acceptable and desirable to men, while male bisexuality isn't desirable to women and is viewed as unmanly. These studies only look at contemporary Western populations and then make claims about human nature on that basis. It's absurdly …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 05:51 AM
2

The breakdown of no. of arrests by race against the breakdown of victims of police violence by race. I've seen this argument made before and it's plausible, but I need receipts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:41 AM
2

Well, I'm not gonna watch a 2-hour vid of a wingnut to find his argument, esp. not when your claim is easily provable/disprovable by stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 05:26 PM
1

Ben Shapiro? The guy who believes the Obama admin is anti-Israel and Jew-hating? Firm grasp on reality that guy has. Surely you've got a better source.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 05:12 AM
58

This is why feminists are so into vibrators. They don't respect men, and can't get excited about one. So they have difficulty reaching orgasm, and need to fill the gap with over-the-top physical stimulation. What an utterly bizarre thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 03:52 AM
1

That's beside the point. You're wrong about attractive girls being the ones who ride the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 01:59 PM
1

Not true. Fat women have the most sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:55 AM
2

What an obnoxious non-answer. There's nothing wrong with milliniels, old people gonna old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:57 AM
2

I heard this song the other day, and the first thing I thought of was how TRP always denies that this is a thing. I remember this girl in yr 9 who all the guys were obsessed with and would claim to have done stuff with (lol); she was pretty, but by no means the prettiest. She was new and mysterious and all sorts of rumours floated around about her; I think that was the appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 02:42 PM
1

I find it very annoying and unnecessary, not entertaining at all. In fact imo, those characters (and we all know who they are) really bring down the quality of content on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 08:03 AM
2

Not sure if sarcasm, but this is the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:34 PM
5

It's very clear with how she framed the passage ("the experiences differed greatly") that one was a messy affair with a friend, and the other a zipless fuck ("by comparison") that left her with "a spring in [her] step". It's crystal clear and unambiguous. The sluttery of American women isn't particularly noteworthy by global standards. Do you think Northern European women are more unhappy than American women? What you're describing ("I just want to be a wife & mother, blah, blah") is not "sluts"…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:27 PM
1

Because the word for veil is used, the mainstream interpretation is that the verse implies that hair must be covered. The fringe view is that the veil was only mentioned b/c that's what women at the time wore and the point of the verse was to convey that covering the chest is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:02 PM
1

The verse commands women to "draw their veils over their bosoms" and that's more or less it. There's no specific mention of hair in particular having to be covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:32 PM
9

The first experience had her sobbing. The second was "totally devoid of feeling." Yeah. Sounds like she was REALLY "happy" after those encounters. Huh? Devoid of feeling isn't necessarily a bad thing in this context. Did you miss the bit where she continued her holiday with "a spring in [her] step" after the second encounter? That was clearly positive. You're making a whole lot of assumptions. American women aren't the world's sluttiest, for one. I'm pretty sure Finland and New Zealand are the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:20 PM
1

Fair enough, I was wondering if there was some TRP reason I was unaware of or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 07:04 AM
3

Again a TBH: I don't consider male body issues as legit. I know that they are legit, I have read about them and I somehow struggle with them, too, but in my mind every man has to strive for a built and ripped body. If you have to hate your body to achieve it, so be it. If you have to torture your body, so be it. This doesn't apply to women in my mind. Women need to be protected from harm. They shouldn't suffer. They shouldn't torture their bodies. They should only aim to stay in reasonable shape…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:21 AM
1

"Beta losers" aren't options in the first place so your premise kind of falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:32 AM
2

Are you really considered a misigynist though? There's a difference b/w TRPers like you and…well, you can guess who I have in mind when I say raging misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 05:06 PM
11

I don't get the big deal. He's not repulsive or anything. He doesn't scream omega or incel or whatever if that's what you're asking. Just smug, and the onesie isn't doing him any favours either. He reminds of Stewie Griffin for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 04:24 PM
7

True, I remember a study on U.S. college students where they found promiscuous men were seen as "deceptive", "manipulative", and generally predatory, whereas promiscuous women were seen as "cheap" and lacking self-esteem. They're both viewed negatively, but in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 01:13 PM
0

Your source notes that men out-earn their wives in 62% of marriages. It didn't specify by how much, and when you factor in that most people marry within their socioeconomic class, the difference is not enough to say divorce = the man losing half his stuff. And again, not all states are automatic 50/50 states. Yes, settled out of court =/= everyone got their favoured outcome, but it doesn't necessarily mean "one party lost everything" either. I'm yet to see any evidence of bias against men in fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 11:53 AM
2

Everyone goes for looks, the difference is high SMV guys have higher standards for looks and are able to filter for other things too. Low SMV guys are the ones who'd wife up a girl who is simply attractive enough and tolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 07:21 PM
4

Why would the high SMV guys have lower standards than the low SMV guys? There's a reason George Clooney married an attractive and accomplished lawyer who shares his interests, and not a hot 20-y/o barmaid. He has the luxury of being very picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 06:17 PM
1

I must say, wtf, if you really believe all that kak. You realise there's scientific consensus that climate change since the 20th century is mostly anthropogenic? If anything is a "pseudo-religion" it's the rejection of facts in favour of ideology, in your case extreme "let nature take its course and we'll be fine" libertarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 05:53 PM
1

I know you are but what am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 05:34 PM
2

You hope to rent for life? Or live in a shanty?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 04:47 PM
3

Says who? The stats. Only 18% of rapes are committed by strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 03:45 PM
1

Black women have it better than white men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 03:36 PM
1

Do you believe climate change is a thing? Do you believe that the earth has infinite space and resources? One of the catalysts for the chaos in Syria was a disastrous drought that depopulated the countryside, crowded the cities and caused mass unemployment and social chaos. The result is the biggest refugee crisis since WWII. There's various islands in the Pacific that will be submerged by century's end. Mass migrations aren't a small thing. If anything, the idea that "the humans" will be fine n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 03:33 PM
1

Its nonsense. Compare the income, poverty rates, educational attainment, etc of whites vs. blacks, and white men vs. white women, and then come back and tell me, being male in America is not only a disadvantage, but one worse than being black.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 11:02 AM
2

Interesting. IMO, it should be temporary and only awarded in cases where one spouse was a long-term stay-at-home parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:59 AM
1

Is that why you chickened out and edited your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:57 AM
14

'Vaginal fluids contain mind controlling hormone that turns men into pussified zombies Seems legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 06:28 AM
1

It's not just about space, resources are finite and rising sea levels mean some heavily inhabited areas will become uninhabitable soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 06:24 AM
1

what if an unmarried father is on the kid's birth cert? My understanding is that there's no difference in rights and obligations b/w unmarried fathers and married fathers unless the unmarried father isn't on the birth certificate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 06:15 AM
1

Sauce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 05:58 AM
1

"We were naked, kissing, and touching each other's genitals. We performed oral sex on each other. He fingered me. I consented to all of this. He moved to have intercourse with me. I knew what he was about to do. I didn't say anything or do anything to stop him. He probably believed I was okay with this, but I wasn't. I gave him no indication that I wasn't and never tried to stop him." This isn't considered rape. "Yes means yes" isn't actually the law anywhere. There has to be force or threat the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 05:51 AM
2

It should. It's only offered in 15% of divorces as is, is almost always temporary, and is being phased out anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 05:32 AM
0

My mother didn't work for several years, but since she started working, her income has paid almost entirely for a couple of properties and helped pay off the first mortgage. If my parents' assets were split, my father wouldn't be losing half his shit. You're underestimating how much women contribute. It's not 1950. Also, while she wasn't in paid work, she was raising their kids and running their household, and day care and housekeeping aren't cheap. There's not a legal battle 95% of the time. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 04:52 AM
3

for example, the only reason im not doing it right now to you is because someone else owns house and they set the rules. Exactly, so follow the rules. Don't need to get on your soapbox with the condescending "aww, did I hurt your fee fees darling, this isn't tumblr this is how the menz talk". Your comment was a personal attack, which isn't tolerated here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 04:37 AM
1

The average woman's QoL is better than the average man's to a significantly higher degree than the average white person's QoL is better than the average black person's? I don't buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 09:00 PM
1

It's not just the expletives. You edited the comment, it was "fuck you" before. That's unnecessarily hostile and aggro.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:55 PM
1

Only 1/3 of married women are housewives, and it's usually temporary. Most men don't out-earn their wives significantly. Most people marry within their socioeconomic class. So, again, it's not the norm for the woman to bring zero $ to the marriage > man losing half his shit is hyperbole. If a man gets fat, or stops working, or whatever his wife has no recourse either. I don't get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:52 PM
1

My point is that the man is only losing half his stuff if he married a woman who brought nothing to the marriage and doesn't contribute anything for its duration. That isn't the norm and not all states are community property. If she refuses to work but you want her to and neither is willing to budge, what do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:54 PM
0

If she was working and contributing financially, it's not exactly half your stuff, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:36 PM
0

Why do you always get so mad? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:30 PM
1

Again, unless you belong to a specific community where virginity is a big deal, it's not something adult American men care about at all. Your bf seems to have a bizarre fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:26 PM
2

Most American guys don't expect to marry virgins. I don't think you have anything to worry about unless you're Mormon or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:25 PM
1

So? It's still a significant gap. How big does the gap have to be before it translates to lack of maturity and accountability? It's not just the courts, whites have it better in pretty much all aspects. Does that mean they're immature and lack accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 11:51 AM
1

lol, you're seriously denying that white people have it better in the courts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:53 AM
2

Same. I can't take this kinda shit seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:04 AM
1

What country do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:35 AM
1

But that's just not true. The majority of American men are getting sex, the "incels" are the minority, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:28 AM
1

OP is complaining that sexual liberation > most men missing out on sex. That's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:32 PM
1

Right, but the end result is men getting less sex than they would in a sexually liberal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 07:12 PM
1

Hymen reconstruction surgery is very popular among wealthy Gulf Arab girls… Your average single American man gets laid way more than your average single Saudi man. There's no comparison actually. The only premarital sex young Saudi dudes have is hookers (which aren't as easily accessible in KSA as you think) and other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 06:36 PM
1

Ok, I'll try to get on that later this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:49 PM
1

Gah, can I access it on mobile, or do I need a computer?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:40 PM
1

That's one of the oddest things about RPW. Could you imagine TRP/MRP praising a dude for unconditionally loving a fat shrew wife? For a women's sub, women's happiness isn't prioritised very strongly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:38 PM
3

I wonder if they'd cry "frivorce" over a woman dumping a man who "slipped" once.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:22 PM
1

Ok, makes sense. I always love getting non-one liner responses from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:20 PM
1

Do you think whites are less mature than blacks and lack accountability b/c the latter group is treated more harshly by the legal system and society? Or does this faulty logic only apply to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:19 PM
2

He doesn't necessarily have to be a crappy man, just like a woman who loses her libido years into a marriage isn't necessarily crappy. Shit happens, people change. My point is that TRP/MRP give actionable advice on how to deal with complacency/laziness in their wives to improve their relationships. RPW doesn't, which is odd, given its premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:11 AM
2

Ofc the intro post has to be by a TRP man 😒 I specifically want a concise answer to this: what is the RPW way to deal with a cheating, or otherwise bad/complacent, husband? I'm not gonna read all those links, esp. since most of them are basically be a good/submissive wife, blame yourself some more, etc. Nothing on how to deal with a crappy "captain" the way TRP/MRP gives advice on how to deal with crappy "plates"/partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 07:09 PM
5

People do change with age and experiences. Even if you've been with someone for a few years, you don't necessarily know how they'll react to babies, losing a job, menopause, God knows what else. And people become lazy and complacent after marriage all the time. It's not always easy to predict. You can't really determine how someone will be for the rest of their lives by spending a few years with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 07:01 PM
2

Ok, just perused the side bar. Didn't find anything that looked relevant my q. Can you point me to a specific link?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:47 PM
6

Lol, that was such pseudo-intellectual nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:17 PM
1

So, what is the RPW philosophy? And what is the RPW way to deal with a cheating, or otherwise bad/complacent, husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:10 PM
3

I'm still seeing a very bold claim that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. How exactly are women not held accountable for their actions? I'd argue women are even more cautious than men in a lot of contexts precisely b/c a fuck-up would be much more disastrous and carry more far-reaching consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:53 PM
1

Ah, ye old gish gallop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 02:42 PM
3

The fact that men are willing to do favours for pretty girls =/= women have no sense of accountability and never mature past 18. That's a HUGE leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 02:41 PM
1

Still not seeing the "oppression" of men in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 09:02 AM
3

TRP hasn't really demonstrated that women aren't held accountable for their actions (that's just an assertion at this point), or that not being held accountable for one's actions > not maturing past 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 09:00 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter