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They can if they get a Shewee?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:52 PM
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What does “decentering” mean in this context? Genuine question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:19 AM
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You take it seriously, but won’t engage with someone offering you an opportunity to convince them. I don’t take it that seriously honestly, but this way of thinking, that somehow women are hurting themselves or society by enjoying casual sex is dangerous puritanical nonsense. “The future of the species…” - so self righteous. Must feel amazing to be saving humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:29 PM
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Ah I see, I actually said nothing about how successful I find women who enjoy casual sex, which is why I was confused. For the record, I’m sure it is a lot less difficult for women to find casual sex in 2025 than it is for men. I think women can decide for themselves what success looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:38 PM
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I didn’t watch every video linked, I watched a couple of five minute ones, so I didn’t hear any studies referenced. I’m happy to give my opinion on your favourite study if you can link me to a time code in the video referencing it. Plenty of things have value, but if we’re trying to understand the world and society I’d like strong impartial evidence. I call it pseudoscience because I heard a lot of strong claims that sound like they’ve been researched, but which do not appear to have any evidenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:28 PM
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Sorry I’m not following. Did you reply to the wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:20 AM
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“Men’s stupid brains are fairer than women’s” - really? Are you sure they aren’t just more desperate? So many of these links feel like pseudoscientific crap. This probably appeals to you because the YouTube algorithm is hacking your stupid brain too. The algorithm knows you want videos that give you an excuse to blame women for your own lack of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:41 AM
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Yeah I get it, you’re not talking three years down the road or even three weeks down the road. You’re talking about dating transgressions like ew they laugh like that? or whatever. You’re right, it’s all back to the power imbalance. I’m so lucky I did all my dating before Tinder was invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:25 AM
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If you’re not happy today, don’t stay because someone might be a different person tomorrow. I’ve been giving that advice for 20 years, and I still believe it. It really really shouldn’t be anyone’s job to fix someone, especially since growth is a choice that person makes. The problem is the unbalanced power between men and women. I think most women can afford to be choosy, most men can’t. It’s very hard to make strong equitable relationships work with that foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:53 AM
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I don’t think getting rid of dating apps is feasible. People on some level want to use them, and if you ban one they’ll just find a new place to meet each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:50 AM
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Red pill: sex is transactional anyway Purple pill: sex is transactional anyway Blue pill: something woke probably?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:20 PM
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Nice guy - tick Racist - tick Slut shaming - tick
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:05 PM
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Please link what your asking us to comment on
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:47 AM
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Are you saying there is a monetary reward for donating to GoFundMes? Pretty sure you aren’t saying that. Maybe you could find a hobby or something, cos arguing on the internet isn’t really working out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:10 AM
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Any day now there will be no one left. If only they had listened to the men of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:24 PM
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What numbers? Neither you or OP quoted numbers. I guess you’re talking about a different conversation I haven’t read. Most people can’t live on 8% of their salaries, actually most struggle with 100%. I doubt your last job was as the Sultan of Brunei, so I think you’re full of shit. Just more nonsense to win an argument on the internet. Good on you though for your lighthearted attitude to being corrected. You gotta double down on looking dumb keep it up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:21 AM
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Yes but… what if it really is over? Someone you don’t want is now refusing to take no for an answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:02 AM
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Every government wants to boost birth rates because aging demographics are bad. Why not blame Japan’s immigration policies if you care so much about their aging population? Suicides are higher in Japan, but they’ve fallen since 2012. You can’t tie this to whatever the latest doomer fantasy is, it’s been a studied cultural phenomenon for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:07 AM
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“Men leaving the workforce en masse”… this is such a fantasy. Men can’t sit this out without starving to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:57 AM
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What’s happening in Japan? Are the streets running with blood?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:51 AM
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Japan: a blasted hellscape. Not a single happy or fulfilled person in the whole country. The average age is 93.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:47 AM
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I can’t take you seriously. No one really thinks this way. You’re just trying to get a reaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:36 AM
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Zero to nazi in two comments. Are you doing a speedrun?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:41 AM
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It must be exhausting to be a victim 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:45 AM
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Think how often people are able to raise money on GoFundMe for medical treatment in the USA, it’s a whole industry created for charity. If you want a global example, the olympics is on right now. It’s so easy to be cynical in this miserable world, but the olympics only works because everyone works together to make it happen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:02 PM
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You’ll see it every day if you take time to look! But my point is we don’t have to accept everything nature throws at us, we don’t when it comes to diabetes for example. We’re smart and creative and even societal problems like this can be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:58 PM
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I still care for men going through this. Life might be shitty, but humanity working together can take us past this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:37 PM
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Sometimes people change and are no longer compatible. You can’t know this when you’re young and in love. Many people would be pressured into super marriage by their partners or their family or their religion. You’d be setting people up to make themselves miserable. “People should be held accountable for their actions” It sounds like you just want to punish people for failing at relationships. In many divorces it’s not both people’s fault, it’s often neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:07 AM
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I don’t think many people start marriages expecting to get divorced. I think most would choose the no-take-backsies kind and then eventually some would want to divorce anyway. So what do you do then? Say nuh uh you’re stuck this way forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:23 PM
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The article is from 2013, and the data the was collected between 1971 and 2001, so this isn’t something new. And I’d be careful about drawing conclusions from a survey conducted in one small area of Boston. The difference (9% for all participants, vs 16% for those who know someone who has divorced), could be explained by social groups, e.g. some very religious groups may not believe in marriage, and they’re more likely to have friends and family who also don’t believe in marriage. It’s telling t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:57 PM
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You can be both though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:28 PM
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You don’t think that’s a generalisation? All women who enjoy casual sex are traumatised? Or just most?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:17 PM
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At least it wasn’t a bear
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:00 PM
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This is reddit. No one’s submitting this to the International Journal of Tinder. Feels like you just don’t want to engage with the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:47 AM
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I don’t see why not. You can say it’s unethical. sure. But that shouldn’t invalidate the observations
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:52 AM
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You think that not being overweight is a choice? The majority of people struggle with this. If you’re able to maintain a healthy weight range you already have a significant advantage over the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:30 AM
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I think most men aren’t capable of the changes you’ve made. And it certainly doesn’t sound like “the bar is on the ground”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:45 PM
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I don’t agree, but it’s certainly no worse than what lots of RPers say about women who’ve had lots of partners
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:00 PM
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Remember the good old days when you could just emotionally manipulate women in peace?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:27 AM
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Women can have sex easily with almost any guy they want. If you want to keep a relationship with a woman (or a man even) you need to be a great partner first. Sure that means being sexually compatible, but it also means being someone dependable and, yes, safe. You’re setting yourself up for needless anxiety with this mindset. You’ll never know for sure, so after every argument or bad mood you’ll be torturing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:15 PM
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Are there women who don’t want sex robots to become a thing? I haven’t seen much backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:37 AM
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I think responsive desire is true for men too actually. Just… the bar is lower due to mismatched drives
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:04 AM
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I say, how could you know. You offer the headbutt comment. Why didn’t you start with the proof if you have it? Let’s assume for the sake of argument you have this one example. Thats one person on the sub. You said 35% of men are pretending to be men. You have made an outrageous claim, and can’t back it up. It’s interesting you have such a need for this point to be true. Does your philosophy feel thin when you find men who disagree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:42 AM
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Sweet Jesus your perception is narrow. Resist can mean a lot of things including “stop her”. Not all men are taller than all women. And yes, if someone is a danger to me I’d want the police there, even if I’m the one getting arrested. This is someone’s 2 second comment, maybe made while taking a shit, and you’re trying to see inside their soul and work out which gender they are, to make a point about women masquerading as men on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:31 PM
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Your definition of women is “Someone doesn’t conform to your idea of masculinity”. Very persuasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:56 PM
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How could you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:34 AM
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Can I love my wife and think equality is great for humanity without being a “nice guy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:31 AM
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It’s not like we all sat down and had a vote on what blue pill means. Ask three people and you could easily have three different definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:27 AM
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Again, I’m not making the point, take it up with the other commenter. I can’t help but notice it took you 2 minutes to reply. Did you have that link bookmarked, or is it just muscle memory? It must be exhausting to be on a hair trigger like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:09 PM
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I didn’t make the comment. But I think the point is that women should use adult language because they are adults. Personally I don’t care what word people use, but I do care if we start considering every action people take through the lens of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:47 PM
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I think even in bad relationships there’s compromise, give and take. Situational leadership makes sense to me, sometimes it’s nice to let someone else make day to day decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:32 AM
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There are reasons to do things other than to appeal to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:45 PM
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Show us the research?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:21 PM
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“Some article…” There are sensational articles everywhere. You can find headlines that say whatever you want them so say. Link your article and we’ll take a look
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:56 PM
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Niceness is the hard one for me. I’m nice. That doesn’t mean I let people take advantage of me, and it doesn’t mean I can’t be assertive. There’s “nice” as in, I’ll be a good partner or friend because I care about you. And then theres “nice guy”, as in, if I do enough nice things sex I am owed sex. Men who lose the most out of modern dating, understandably don’t have a lot of genuine niceness in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 04:46 AM
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Women don’t need an excuse for a ONS. This is the puritanical bullshit making society worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:47 AM
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All women are like that /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:16 PM
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Don’t you guys say “all women are like that”?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:58 AM
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Yeah fair enough! A friend told me a few years ago he things we’re living in a brief golden age of humanity. At the time I argued, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:37 PM
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In hundreds of years technology might get good enough you physically can’t tell the difference. Like Westworld.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:57 AM
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Hypothetically, if you could replicate every physical sensation, a perfect woman replica, simulating desire, but with an off switch… even then I think some men would be dissatisfied. On some level we’re meant to desire the unobtainable. But I think it would make loneliness a lot easier for men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:52 AM
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Yep, whole country is a blasted hellscape. Nothing but cowering virgins and childless women. This is sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:30 PM
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The issue is perspective. I can believe that many men have issues finding relationships. I can believe this could lead to societal problems. But when the claim is made that all men have this problem…. No. This is dogma that needs to be refuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:05 PM
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“There are no blue pill success stories”. <blue pill success story> I’m discounting this because <reason> Great job
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:38 PM
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“There are no blue pill success stories”. <blue pill success story> I’m discounting this because <reason> Great job
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:37 PM
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This is super pedantic l, but I think the term “toxic femininity” is wrong in this context. Male and females can be toxic, and masculinity can be toxic when it encourages men to be violent and domineering, but I don’t know if there’s a toxic female equivalent. Maybe toxic femininity is being too too scared of spiders or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:04 AM
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Hypothetically, if this really is society breaking, would men be happy to become single fathers? If we could order up babies from the stork or something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:38 PM
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No one works 70 hrs a week. It means he would rather be at his career than at home with his family
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:25 PM
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I’m not sure I get your point. I’m not even sure what side you’re on. 99% of people have successful and fulfilling relationships, and 1% end up divorced? Ok, I’d live in that society, what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:17 PM
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I don’t think it’s the same thing. To drive a car the AI needs to make moral choices, split second reaction times. Evolution has trained human minds to instantly see a human vs a human shaped blob. Machines have a lot of advantages, but they’ve got a lot of catching up to do. To have sex with a man the sex bot needs to have a moist hole. Sure there are oceans of difference between that and sex with a real person, but that’s just details. The same human mind in the above example wants to personif…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:54 AM
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There is no design. The only thing life cares about is reproduction. People get bored and sleep around because that’s how a lot of people get conceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 12:19 PM
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The whole manosphere is built on top of assuming all women behave exactly the same way. Like a house of cards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:11 PM
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It’s really not ok to say this. You’re saying ugly men don’t deserve love, companionship and families. I reject this; we’re all human, and without these things life is pretty bleak. We wouldn’t say ugly people don’t deserve healthcare, shelter, and food. You may mean to say that ugly men aren’t entitled to these things, to which I would agree. I don’t have any solutions. But why can’t we at least strive for a world where there is hope for people?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:42 PM
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If you’re right then great work! I don’t know you my guy, maybe you really are just a few days away. And I really will be happy for you if that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:58 AM
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I’ve responded there brother
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:23 AM
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Hey, I’m back, and I promise I’ve read everything in good faith on this post. I see you’re getting a lot of harsh criticism that doesn’t always address your argument. So here are my own thoughts. Suggesting women to look for potential in their partners is arguably good advice. I think most reading this are focusing on the parts where you’re saying “look at my potential”. This is the something women hear from men all the time, and so, without knowing anything else about you, they will assume you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:20 AM
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I’m trying to understand more about your ideas of men’s potential, so I can see if there are any parts of your argument I agree with. I see you’ve a new post I haven’t read fully yet
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:36 PM
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Can I ask what you’re doing to increase your value to a 7?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:35 PM
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You invented a whole new type of maths to complain that no one is giving men a chance. This honestly feels like satire, but in case you are sincere, this sounds like a lot of dangerous entitlement thinking. Women are attracted to you or they aren’t. Life doesn’t work in levels like this. You need to find some perspectives offline, maybe get some counselling to talk through this stuff with an expert.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:47 PM
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You want a girl to see the potential because soon you’ll be a buff millionaire and won’t want one any more?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:37 PM
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I had a similar experience, but it made me want to help my less fortunate brothers left behind, and the women who have to deal with the resulting toxic culture. If I’m reading you right you still have no sympathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:04 AM
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Tate is a walking argument against the red pill mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:02 PM
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I’m no introvert, but randoms trying to talk to me - a man - on public transport is a fresh hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:09 PM
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“10x with every drink” is obviously wrong and helps no one. If they said “if you drink you’re 10x more likely…” at least that could be true. It’s not like I’m 10,000,000,000 times more likely to get a disease because I’ve had 10 drinks ever. There’s less than that many people on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:29 AM
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Women’s agency and independence hasn’t ruined society. Most people, men on women, are perfectly capable of living happy and productive lives in this society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:32 PM
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Here’s my reasons why: 1: There are just no easy answers. And there are plenty of empathic men and women out there, who would love to help if there was a way to. 2: In our attention driven culture the toxic stuff rises to the surface, and those voices are the loudest, on both sides of the conversation. 3: Unfortunately loneliness can make men bitter and resentful. And occasionally dangerous to women. You’ve tried not to generalise in your post, but you have anyway. People can’t help but generali…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:34 PM
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How is it hollow? You can be feel sorry for people and date the person you’re attracted to at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:22 PM
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The wisdom here is “it’s the only experience I know”. This whole conversation exists because of our limited frame of reference. If we could ever experience both genders then we’d all know the answers. If you’re asking me would I be female the next go around the answer is always going to be yes, but only because I’m curious. Whether I think it’s better or worse doesn’t really enter into it. You can’t solve “which is mode is easier, p or v?” with a question like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:45 PM
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(Long message, sorry for my short response.) Look at the rise of AI girlfriends. Its very hard to know how people will react, especially if human partners are apparently unobtainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:12 AM
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Pretty sure this is part of a funny joke
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:28 AM
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In all seriousness, if we’re creating it, we’re creating it to want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:21 PM
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No no, too much intelligence!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:20 PM
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If you’re a single guy, and you think this way, it can be a self fulfilling prophecy. Rise above this mentality, find the other parts of life that are fulfilling. Even if it’s true for some it doesn’t have to be your story.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:16 PM
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Everything in this post in anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:00 PM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/onlyfans-twitch-star-amouranth-launched-210542444.html
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:52 AM
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This isn’t just American Culture, it’s Internet Culture
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:52 AM
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I really feel this. Relationships should be equal partnerships, you can’t be happy with someone where there’s an unbalance of power. Which is the true tragedy of modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:58 AM
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Go get your Nobel prize bud 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:04 PM
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It honestly feels like trolling at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:59 AM
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Unlike most other species humans are able to have sex without reproducing, thanks to modern contraceptives. Doesn’t red pill mindset say women eventually settle down and choose a long term partner to raise children that’s different from their sexual preferences? Or are those children all conceived though infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:59 AM
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If you want to feel loved, don’t try play dread mind games?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:10 PM
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You were given five valid reasons that have nothing to do with how much she is into him and I’m sure there are others. You’re so desperate to find a reason to be jealous. The insecurity you’re projecting is so intense it’s honestly sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:55 AM
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Also, to stretch the analogy, maybe in the past you really wanted to please the person you’re with, and you ate their cooking just to please them, even though you didn’t enjoy it. But you’ve grown up now, and you realise that honestly is better than suffering though years of food you don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:47 AM
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I see what you did there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:30 PM
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So you’re going to be convinced any female you meet has slept with many guys without asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:26 PM
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I’m starting to feel like the only person on earth who doesn’t care what their SO’s n count is. It’s so common I’m sure I’m the strange one at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:25 PM
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My wife is happy? I’m a chubby nerd who makes her laugh and treats her as an equal. I guess I’m just being beta cucked though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:51 AM
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“I know I’m right. Look at all these personal anecdotes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:22 PM
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That’s a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:43 PM
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I wonder if guys magically could have sex all the time how many of us actually would bother. I mean, it’s great the first 500 times, but, there’s a lot of stuffing around, with ubers and putting on pants. And all that cardio.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:40 AM
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Thanks. I’ll be as supportive as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:25 AM
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I’ve never (tortures metaphor) seen the kind of hunting he does. I assume he’d be happy to spear anything he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:23 AM
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5’10ish Caucasian, he is working on himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:20 AM
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It’s a bunch of family stuff, just held him back heaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:39 PM
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He’s not a great conversationalist generally. I really doubt it. He’s just starting out, it takes time and confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:19 PM
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A friend of mine has just started expressing an interest in dating. I assume he’s a virgin, never been known to date previously. He’s 28, casual job, still in uni, super slim. He’s average looking, but honestly not great socially. Any hope for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:14 PM
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Big fan of an apple and a quick walk around the block.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:55 PM
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Date went badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:06 PM
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I struggle with knowing what to ask for these days. If I really want something I just go buy it. I think secretly most adults are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:58 PM
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Which thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:25 AM
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Or, most guys love gokarts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:24 AM
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My wife got me a card and a gift but drew silly cartoons on the envelope. I can’t even remember what the gift was but these silly cartoons are genuinely one of the best things I’ve ever gotten. I have them set to my desktop background on my home pc. Maybe your man won’t be into it, but I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:23 AM
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Thanks for the reply, I’m fine with that. Except, not waiting for consent and enjoying humiliation are two different things, I’m sure you’d agree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:24 PM
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Would you say that if the person offering cuddles has a choice of their clients, they aren’t being trafficked, and are genuinely not vulnerable (say it’s a side hustle or something), AND there was a way for Johns to know all of this, then would it be ok? Is it the consent part that’s problematic, or the transactional part?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:42 PM
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Fair enough. I think the poster was saying he wouldn’t be a part of the incel community anymore. Not go posting on forums and the like. I can see a 16 year old reading a bunch of stuff because they aren’t as popular with girls as peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:55 PM
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Are you telling me you didn’t want to have sex at 16?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:12 PM
2

Did anyone else see this? Good for this guy! https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/sympce/starting_today_im_quitting_be_an_incel_and_im/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:11 PM
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I’m in a relationship. I’m here because I struggled with sexlessness in my early 20’s and I feel kinship for younger bros who are going through the same thing. I have a wife who is my best friend and we have an excellent equal relationship. I’m not RP, but I do sometimes see guys in other relationships not standing up for themselves and simping too hard for their partners, and I think, hrm, that can’t be good for long term relationship health. And a lot of MGTOW advice is similar to advice I’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:01 PM
1

Why is the choice between single mum and settling? Won’t some women chose not to have children and just remain single?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:37 AM
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I’ve been that guy. I was told “I just broke up and not ready to date again” so I followed this girl around for months, becoming her part time driver, waiting for her to be ready again. It was an important lesson for me to learn, but she really did nothing wrong. I don’t know how I would have learned the lesson without going through it. Now that I’m married of course I’ll do nice things, for guys and girls, just because I try to be a good friend. And there’s been plenty of times before I was mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:32 AM
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I haven’t dated for a while, but of course I’ve heard stories about how hard it is. I can tell you that if you aren’t having fun you’re less attractive than if you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:18 AM
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You must have friends, (men presumably) who you spend time with and don’t have sex with? Likely you have female family you enjoy seeing who you wouldn’t want to sleep with? There’s a million things to do with someone that aren’t sex. You asked for equivalent value. I know if you aren’t having sex it becomes extremely important. But it’s still not the only thing. And desperation is extremely unattractive, and you can never cover it up entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:13 AM
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You see the issue don’t you? People, men and women are very perceptive to intent. Who would a women rather spend time with, someone genuinely interested in having fun while getting to know someone, or someone who’s just pretending that’s what they want because they’re only there for sex? And who’s more “beta”, someone who enjoys the company, or someone who’s going through the motions hoping sex will happen on the other side?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:03 AM
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It sounds like you’re saying there’s just no reason for a man to spend time with a women except they might have sex with him eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:41 AM
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Please help me understand the downvoting?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:38 AM
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I say give the date a chance. You might not be attracted to her physically but you can learn to like a lot of things about a person. It’s not dishonest to try it on, not like you’re getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:18 PM
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Like a lot of things in life, when you start comparing yourself to others eventually you’ll wind up disappointed. Why does there need to be a bar anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:36 PM
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I used to care what my n count was when it was low. Then it became a bit higher and I stopped caring. High and low I still wanted sex literally every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:25 PM
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The ability to relax and enjoy life is a life skill. Who wants to be with someone who’s hustling 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:01 AM
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The kind of people that consider having friends as “building relationships” aren’t fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:58 AM
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Hey guys, just finished reading Anne Rice’s Queen of Dammed, sexy sexy vampires doing vampire things. Spoilers I guess, but the titular Queen of the Dammed’s big plan is to kill all but 1 in 100 men. This will apparently stop all wars, eliminate poverty, and create a utopia. She’s the bad guy, Thanos adjacent, so we’re meant to think this is a crazy idea, but there are whole slabs of text dedicated to her reasoning. The book was written in 1988, well before the current gender issues. Anyway, tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:11 PM
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It’s not my “feminazi doctrine” I’m a married guy who used to be incel a long time ago and has a lot of sympathy for today’s single guys. All I wanted to do was poke fun at this bizarre scenario you constructed and now you’ve projected an avalanche of things onto an 8 word comment. I mean this sincerely, you need to go get some professional help, because this mentality is really dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:37 PM
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Only ugly males can be plumbers I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:03 AM
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I was going to disagree, but apparently it’s MCU cannon that he got rid of half of all plants. That sounds disastrous for earths ecology, and even the atmosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:58 AM
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Give it a couple of generations and we’re back to the same population as before. Thanos just pushed back the collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:32 AM
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I think it’s a learned skill. I was bad at relationships until I started insisting on being treated fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:47 PM
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If by beta you mean having a genuine concern for the well-being of my spouse for its own sake, and not because I expect sex or whatever in return, then yeah sure I’m a beta. That doesn’t mean I let her take advantage of me. Like any relationship, be it romantic, professional, or just Pete from the pub, you should always stand up for yourself. If she is being unfair I communicate that, and if I am I expect her to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:44 PM
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Do you think there is a chicken and egg thing going on here? Not getting laid makes the anxiety worse, which makes the awkwardness worse, which makes it even harder to get laid and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:34 PM
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“Then I saw comments…” I think there’s a whole heap of misconceptions about average men you can get from forums like this. People here aren’t typical. It’s mostly people who have a bone to pick that end up here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:32 PM
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I think if you could wave a magic wand and disappear all the 10s, in a few months all the 9s would become 10s. I think the only reason women aren’t attracted to Mr. 5.5 is because they have better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:20 PM
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The point is to win arguments isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:16 PM
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If you think of being an equal part of a partnership as “paying for sex” then you’re missing out of the best parts of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:49 AM
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Thanks, that’s really interesting. It does make sense that dates with alcohol are more likely to result in sex, but Id still encourage anyone else out there who prefers not to drink to own it and go without. Confidence in yourself is just as attractive as whatever the booze gains you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 01:33 AM
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Actual statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:43 PM
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Sincerely guys, if you think you need to drink to be social, trust me, you probably don’t. I think being sober is interesting and rare these days. I guess some people might think it’s weird and feel uncomfortable on a date without drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:48 AM
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Why the drinking? I rarely drink, and it seems unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:43 PM
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If she didn’t tell you, you’d never even know what her N count is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:01 PM
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I don’t understand the obsession about N counts. Jealousy and insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:57 PM
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You said a lot there. You come close to agreeing with me, but then cherry pick a very specific scenario. If we have to compare a girl getting cat called to a guy getting robbed and assaulted of course it’s worse for the guy. But that’s not what we’re comparing is it? You’re deliberately going out of your way to claim you know what it’s like when you can’t possibly know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:39 AM
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Do you know what it’s like to have unwanted attention and be sexualised by people you aren’t attracted to and are often rightfully afraid of a lot of the time? Because I don’t. All I’m saying is you can’t know what it’s like, so trying to compare will never sound sincere. It will just sound like complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 11:50 AM
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It’s about perspective. Some women say they have it worse. Some men say they do. Since I’ll never know what it’s like to be a woman and women will never know what it’s like to be a man, I guess we will never know and it’s a crazy argument to even have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:34 AM
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I never said it was. Both sides have it tough though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 08:12 PM
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It’s a positive feedback loop. Guys are desperate and behave badly. Girls are rightfully angry about it, and treat guys badly. Guys are bitter and resentful and behave even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:17 PM
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So you know, I’m happily married. Just sympathetic for my bros. It’s good advice, I’d say the same. But it’s hard not to feel discouraged by rejection. Everyone should respect no, but tell that to romantic comedies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 10:35 PM
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Most the advice here is pretty good really, similar to what you’d find on a red pill forum. But every 5’5 guy can’t just go to the gym 3 days a week and get a six figure salary. If they did the advice would be go to the gym 7 days a week and get a 7 figure salary. And it’s hard to get the required confidence and experience with conversation when you’ve only had rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 08:28 PM
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What percentage of women at like this would you say? Genuine question, just looking to understand your perception, not looking to argue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:19 AM
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…maybe I’m a bit stary eyed idealist here. I want to believe most people, men and women, want everyone around them to be happy and fulfilled, because that’s how society functions. And I think that most of the time when women treat guys badly it’s because unless guys are out down hard they don’t get the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:41 PM
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You said the “advice always benefits the woman” giving it. That’s the bit I’m objecting to. Op has some good actionable advice for men. You’re just saying women shouldn’t be the ones to give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:27 PM
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The first half of the argument is stupid. Most women aren’t arseholes. I think most women genuinely feel sympathy for guys going through sexlessness. (And I think most people in this sub, all genders, tend to be a bit battleworn, and so don’t represent the typical population)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:04 PM
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I don’t think there’s anything magical about men that makes them better at being alone. In fact I’d guess they are worse at it than women generally, as men typically have higher sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:53 PM
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The article cites no source for this claim either. Feels like something the author pulled out of her arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:29 PM
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I’d say that this points to tendencies, and is a huge generalisation. There are plenty of insecure guys when dating a more attractive girl, and plenty of women who will do more for a more attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:45 PM
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I know we’re on the same page here, so don’t think I’m trying to talk down to you or something. I’m just saying people, men and women, get humiliated all the time and yes it sucks, but society isn’t going to apologise to them for it. Responding with violence isn’t justified, no matter how hurt someone’s feeling are. It’s not a woman’s fault if she deliberately humiliates the wrong guy and the guy loses it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:06 PM
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I think those men are pretty rare, but they have interactions with a lot of women. Home invasions are pretty rare too, but you still lock your house. To put it another way, redheads are pretty rare (2% according to google), but I’ve met dozens of them. If one girl tried to kick me in the nuts for every redhead I’ve met I’d probably be afraid of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:55 PM
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Like you get it’s not ok to punch someone because you feel humiliated right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:44 PM
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I can really see both sides to this. I’ve been the awkward dumb guy who followed another awkward dumb girl around for months as mutual friends because I didn’t realise her “I’m getting over someone” meant “no, sorry, I’m not interested in you”. The truth initially would have saved me a lot of time and heartache. This was back when I was very inexperienced though, now I would get it. But yeah, I’ve seen aggressive super pushy guys who react terribly when they are shutdown too. I’ve got no idea wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:39 PM
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I think most RPers actually deep down do understand it’s just how the world is. But they blame anyway, so they have an excuse to spew bile
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:42 AM
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Congrats on having a fun and healthy relationship!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:39 AM
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Thanks, I’ve learned something today. I had no idea stem cells were used for skin care products. Having said that, the websites I looked at (to be fair these are part of the beauty industry) say that the stem cells are not harvested from abortions, they are replicated from the cells harvested previously. This makes sense, you can’t have a product like skin care that requires abortion by products as part of its supply chain. I tried to find out what actually happens to the abortion material after…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:38 AM
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Any evidence the “Abortion industry” is “entirely based on the acquisition of fetal cells for industrial purposes”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 09:30 PM
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I think, once you’re satisfying that need it fades away. Just like food, shelter etc. Even the most hardcore incel would eventually feel unfulfilled if they had access to as much sex as they liked and nothing else higher than that. So it shouldn’t be surprising guys who are getting it on the regular have other interests and hobbies they get satisfaction from
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 09:47 PM
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You don’t think we should at least try to change it? Awareness campaigns, support for mental health, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 09:41 PM
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Maybe we are in the Age of Independence, whatever that is. Fine. But stable relationships exist and they are valuable to society. Couples are great at raising kids for starters. You’re bending over backwards to create a narrative that conforms to your world view. You want to say betas are better off single so you can feel superior. But every day people choose to stay in what you imagine to be abject misery. I’m sorry, but most people outside your echo chamber are doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:22 PM
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You’re saying society gets no value from stable relationships where one partner does all the providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:08 PM
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I think, like a lot of studies, there are just two many variables to be able to say one causes the other. There are more hipster beards in 2020, do they cause higher porn use? I’ll read your links if you get time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 12:57 PM
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So just ban porn? If we’re being honest with ourselves some forms of porn are banned - at least on PornHub. The internet isn’t well regulated, but there are rules out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:45 PM
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Please take this in the spirit of friendly discussion it’s intended :). how can you prove our instant gratification society has normalised porn and drug use? I don’t disagree, I just want to know how you can get from one to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:38 PM
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I think sex is a basic human desire and being with a lot of partners doesn’t imply any issues. It’s a stretch to say that attractive men with high N counts often have self esteem issues. Isn’t the more likely explanation that they enjoy sex with many different partners for its own sake?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 06:53 PM
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Yep, I really agree with you. I feel so lucky I have what I have, especially since I’ve been where incels have been. PS I really hate that study that’s frequently linked. One day I want to have a look at the data and try to understand what it’s really saying about the chances of infidelity increasing with sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 02:55 PM
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I think there are enough examples of dead bedrooms with early problems that’s it’s worth getting things right at the beginning. Also, I think sex and intimacy are, for many people, essential for a real connection. Not everyone perhaps, but I couldn’t imagine a ltr without sex and intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 02:28 PM
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“> 25 = self esteem and validation issues.” I don’t get it. Isn’t it just a matter of having a high smv over a long enough period? Does Chad have self esteem and validation issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 02:12 PM
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My wife cooked dinner while I was on the phone to a work friend yesterday. I did the same for her while she was doing uni work tonight. That was pretty nice. I guess she’s about to cheat on me so it doesn’t count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:09 PM
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The only reason people date I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:52 PM
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I mean... doesn’t being kind of sad about it not working out count?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:33 PM
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Fair enough. It’s just the same thing said every time there is some kind of moral outrage. It’s just not a sensible argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:21 AM
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Does that mean you’re tired of hearing about it? Maybe it’s an old point because it makes sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:13 AM
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“...downfall of an entire generation.” I feel like you automatically lose the argument when you bring this up. Like how can you possibly know this? How is it different from every other time the claim gets made?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:07 AM
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I really doubt most people will care. It’s become fairly widespread - at least common enough that it’s not going to be unbelievable that anyone has done it. I don’t think the men on PPD are typical representations of guys out there. High value men won’t have the same insecurities and hang ups and I’m sure these girls will get along fine, even if it does come out. I think public shaming of ex OnlyFans girls will become frequent - like school teachers outed by their students, run out of town, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:01 AM
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See we can build a bridge here. I agree, Incel mens’ situation needs to be treated with respect and individuals need support.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 11:11 PM
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It’s women’s fault for wanting rights. It’s women’s fault for choosing the best match they can as dictated by biology? How should women fix this? Get back in the kitchen? No sex before marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:02 PM
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It sounds like your blaming women for behaving the way they are wired. In your scenario aren’t they just as much victims as the sexless losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:58 PM
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These books exist because men buy them. Because men want to please women. How well is a book on jacking off a guy going to sell? All the study shows is that experienced people are more likely to expect their partner to please them. That’s not a surprise is it? But you see the word entitlement and you get all grumpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:19 PM
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It’s a self reported questionnaire. Anyone rationalising away their dick size preference wouldn’t have responded like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:10 PM
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Seems like a lot of people are putting a lot of energy into discussing a study that seems to show exactly what we would expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:07 PM
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Certainly applies to men just as much as women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:03 AM
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Thanks for these links. I especially like the healthline article’s tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:59 AM
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They’re obviously two very different things. However, there is dogma that RP owns, not just RP really. But there are things that are bought into that inform a worldview that seems strange otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 11:44 PM
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People generally desire to be valued and appreciated too. It’s amazing to me that this mindset is so pervasive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:44 PM
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Help me understand your reasons for thinking that? Is this some RP psychology? Personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 08:18 PM
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To me it sounds like you’re really angry at this shitty situation, and rather than try to have a constructive conversation you’re more interested in winning arguments on the internet and being obnoxious. Shit if I was in your situation I’d probably feel the same way, the whole thing is really fucked. I hope that in real life you’re nicer to people in general and that you’re honest with yourself about the right way to treat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 08:16 PM
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See you don’t really think that, you’re just arguing for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 12:05 PM
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What about what I said makes you think I’m a pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:59 AM
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It’s probably hard for love to blossom when you’re getting negged all the time. Actually I feel genuinely sorry for people in that mindset, because it’s so persuasive. RPers work so hard to defend their world view. It’s a few unfortunate truths on which they’ve built a house of cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:47 AM
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Do you think only white people are content in long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:43 AM
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Why have I had success with dating when I’ve only ever treated girls nicely? Why have I got a long term partner when I’m nice to her? Strength doesn’t have to mean abuse. Women are attracted to men who provide and support. There’s room to stand up for yourself and give back too. That’s what evolution wants for men, not this RP bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:42 AM
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Reading between the lines here, something convinced you to treat women like crap. You acknowledge that you didn’t get validation from ascending and that there is void inside you. You acknowledge that you aren’t naturally abusive. I think deep down inside you know this isn’t the right approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:37 AM
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Why do you think women want to date bastards? Women want emotionally strong partners who stand up for themselves and who don’t come off as needy or desperate. That doesn’t mean being abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:23 AM
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I think what me and my wife have is extremely rare, which is sad. At least you don’t have to wonder what you’re missing out on? At least you know you are attractive to at least someone out there... right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:33 AM
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The word “Incel” now carries a huge amount of baggage, because it’s a label that’s been applied to a few extreme people. There really should be a positive face for incels, if for no other reason that it would be good for individuals to have another source of information. Maybe it exists, I really haven’t looked. But there really shouldn’t be anything fundamentally misogynistic about incels, it’s probably another thing that’s been cooped by toxic elements. I can’t explain why there aren’t more ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:30 AM
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I’ve never really been an incel, just someone who had a lot of self esteem issues and, after a few successful encounters, got some confidence and learned how to talk to girls. I guess I’ve had a taste of how soul crushingly awful inceldom can be. So my sympathies, for what it’s worth. If I’d found pages of scientific evidence of reasons I’d never be attractive to women I don’t think I’d ever have those first encounters that helped with my confidence issues. For me confidence was my only real iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 09:23 PM
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I don’t want minimise human dignity, just pointing out how big the gap is :). And, while I’m not a woman so I don’t know first hand, women have to deal with a lot of unsolicited attention. Guys do become fixated and misread signals, and while it’s not most guys, the safest strategy is to bring the sledgehammer down hard whenever possible. I think it’s understandable they have guards up when any attention is unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:52 PM
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I guess you know more about my friend than I do. What a productive conversation we’re having.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:38 PM
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Who is pushing these guys into relationships? Society, women in particular, constantly tells these guys to back off, you’re weird, your too low value, you’re making us uncomfortable. And, I’m saying I understand the reasons for that - women have to put up walls when the simplest gesture can be misinterpreted and aggressively latch on to any vulnerability. You said “They don’t want sex they want love”, and then in the next sentence you said “if that’s not happening they need to relieve urges in o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:34 PM
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What about the friend of the guy who started this thread? He tried and received heaps of rejections. I had an incel friend who got a hug from a mutual friend and assumed they were dating. So there’s two examples for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:15 PM
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You’re saying that people in dead bedrooms should change their situation. Incels often don’t feel like they have a choice. Yes would be my answer, but don’t take my word for it. How do we explain the black pill culture if incels aren’t psychologically damaged by constant rejection? You really don’t have to look far to find testimonials from guys who are damaged by modern dating. Are they just making it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:13 PM
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“You can satisfy your biological needs with your hand” biological needs are more complex than how much juice is in the tank. If it were that simple we wouldn’t have these issues. Look at r/deadbedrooms, are you going to tell those people to just use their hand? You’re invalidating incel mens’ experiences. This is one of the main reasons these communities form, because no one listens and no one believes. You’ll notice that I’m not invalidating your experiences, I’m sure being treated like a sex o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:44 AM
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I’ve probably overstated it. There’s a spectrum of people on this subreddit of course, and many RPers do engage in this kind of discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:05 PM
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I’m sure only being wanted to sex is awful, but men can’t satisfy their biological needs just by making friends. I’ve known incel men who had jobs and active social lives who were psychologically damaged by their experiences trying to meet women. I don’t think we’d ever be able to compare the two experiences in a meaningful way. You can’t know what it’s like to be an incel man, and also know what it’s like to only be wanted for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:50 PM
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I don’t think that’s a practical solution. Looks are subjective after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:30 PM
1

“Break down of morals” Oh no! It’s such a stretch to say that this stuff will cause all this chaos. It will cause a lot of things to change, but it’s not like the sky is going to fall down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:26 PM
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I really like the question OP, this is the kind of question I came to PPD to hear the answer to. I think it’s on society to do more to help incels out, education, therapy, awareness, and less about what women alone “should” do. I also suspect many of the RP men on this forum aren’t interested in anything constructive and just want to evangelise and spew bile.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:14 PM
1

If “incel” autocorrects to “uncle” one more god dammed time...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:07 PM
0

Thanks to Tinder men today compete with every other man in their local area. We’ll never be able to know who put in more effort, but I’m sure you’ve never had to deal with the same level of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:03 PM
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You’re suggesting three plus nights a week of classes to make interactions with men easier. Why should women have to do this? Note I’m on the side of the incels here, I just want us to be honest about what the real solutions can be
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:52 PM
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But... sometimes they really do? Or am I just drinking blue pill kool aid again? Edit - sorry I misread what you wrote. You said most, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:44 PM
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I was in a big mix gender social clique at uni around 15 years ago. A few guys were very incel. The girls were friendly and such, but once a guy got a hug from a girl and assumed they were dating, drama ensued. Guys who are inexperienced and desperate interpret any attention - let alone affection - as a come on, because they don’t have the experience to know better. And on the other side we’ve got women being aggressively hit on all the time in every setting, unsolicited dick pics, an entire sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:42 PM
2

Or any kind of attention from a woman at all. Like, even a friendly conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:19 PM
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There are men who are so starved for any kind of attention it goes beyond “wanting a shag”. It’s more like “wanting any attention at all from a breathing woman”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:16 PM
4

Anecdotes, confirmation bias and group think?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:02 PM
1

You’re making the positive claim. Why don’t we start with what has convinced you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:53 PM
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It’s been a while since I graduated soft eng, but I think I understand this. It’s saying that women will have sex with guys in order of most attractive to least attractive until they find one who will marry them. If this sounds to you like nonsense with a few sciency words thrown in to make it sound smart... well that’s what it sounds like to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:35 PM
8

Chinese medicine?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:31 AM
1

If a guy was like “man I’ve had sex with 30 girls” I’d be like... “Um, please stop being weird”. If it was something that I found out about, well I guess I’d be mildly impressed, in the same way I’d be if I found out he can bowl 300 or if he’d met Weird Al. Really I can’t access that, it doesn’t make any sense to me to spend time thinking about it. Maybe other guys are different? The things that determine social hierarchies are more complex then how wet your dick is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 12:14 AM
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Interesting! I promise I’ll read it when I have time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 03:39 AM
1

I guess if my wife is running around behind my back I wouldn’t know. I could have termites in the walls of my house and I wouldn’t know. Either way it will all come out of the woodwork one day, and I’ll deal with it then. I’m not going to lose sleep over it. In the meantime the house is comfortable, and things are great with my wife. You can call that blissful ignorance if you like. How common do you honestly think paternity fraud really is? Like, give me a rough percentage of all relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 02:41 AM
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Well, I heard someone say that there’s no point to therapy because they would just try to talk them out of RP. You’ll notice I didn’t assume that was true for all RPers, and asked :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 02:27 AM
1

Great response, glad to hear that it’s not a hard no. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 11:58 PM
0

Actually, you’re probably right, it’s not just RPers, I’ve overstated it. My sincere advice to all men is not to fixate on it. If you’re dating someone and you like them don’t let their high N count come between you. It’s one facet of a persons history. If I could pick between any two identical women except one loves Mexican food, I’d pick the Mexican food girl. My wife doesn’t like Mexican food, and she has a high N count, but I still love her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 11:49 PM
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Oh, and the study thing is complicated, I don’t understand the statistical breakdown and I’d really like to. I’m suspicious of the 13% claim, I don’t think it makes sense. If we’re compounding that means that women at the maximum the study allowed for, 30, are something like 39116% more likely to cheat than a woman with their husband as their only partner. That’s nonsense. I’m honestly just seeking the truth, if that’s what the survey really shows I’ll accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 11:41 PM
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I love the idea that a woman is going to tell someone they like IRL they’ve fucked 50 guys and really convince them just to win an argument with a RPer on reddit. “When I told Cyril about my sexual history his moustache flew off in surprise” I probably should get some blue text one of these days which makes it clearer but I am a man. I’m here because I was once an incel, it really effected me, and I think men have it really hard in today’s sexual marketplace. I think your assumption and the vitr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 11:34 PM
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We’re talking purely about who the better sexual partner is here, but I’ll take the bait. I’ve seen that linked a few times and I plan to break it down and respond to it properly it one day, so look forward to that. “Common sense” well it’s not what I’d call common sense. It’s making a lot of claims built up from anecdotes and cherry picked studies. If it’s common sense why is it only RPers who think this way? In a healthy relationship I’d expect comprise. If you really want a BJ ask for one. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:45 PM
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I think high N counts do make for better sexual partners. You’re more confident, you’ve explored different options and you know what you like. Other more experienced sexual partners have done things you enjoy and you can communicate that with your current partner. You’ve tried more things on other people and so you can bring that to the table. Or bed, or whatever. Also, importantly, you don’t have to wonder if the grass really is greener on the other side of the fence, because you’ve already che…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:16 PM
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LRT dynamics are so much more complicated than how good a guy is in bed. It’s things like, does he help around the house, does he emotionally engage, is he good company when we’re laying around the house on a random Sunday afternoon. Im sure getting fucked hard is great the first few times, but in a 40+ year LTR, chafing and RSI become problems. Probably the more bigger issue for RPers is that the emotionally abusive stuff like Dread and basically being an arsehole to show her who is boss is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:10 PM
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This is one of those horrible analogies straight out of PE class at the Baptist high school. People are not like cars. If you didn’t ask someone what her N Count is you wouldn’t even know. Multiple owner cars are likely to have more problems because they they are machines that break down. The same is not true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 09:58 PM
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“Any man that show weakness to a women just get bullied etc” I doubt the commenter you’re responding to is suggesting using this as a dating strategy. Just seriously consider talking to a therapist privately and try discussing your insecurities with another account or with other people you know. I’ve seen RPers say men shouldn’t go to therapy. Do you think that’s common in RP communities?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 09:45 PM
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“Being able to have kids doesn’t inherently make men more attractive than women ... evopsyc etc” I think, to be fair, the argument is that evopsyc does imply that our wiring is different. I don’t think it’s an unfair claim, as shitty as that reality might be. But the reasons RP men don’t want LTRs with older women are usually things like “she’s been giving it out for free and now she wants me to pay full price” and “divorce rape”, not that her value is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 09:38 PM
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I don’t know about most, I think plenty of people using tinder know what they’re getting into. But it’s probably a lot. But I’m also confident that a lot of straight male straight female friendships are friend zoned too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:52 AM
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Despite the fact that there appear to be a lot of people out there suffering through this, these are just anecdotes. I’m not prepared to generalise all women based upon stories from extremely passionate and vocal men. I suspect that, like with any disagreement, there are three sides to every divorce story. His, hers, and the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 12:43 AM
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Those are strong claims that require evidence. What is the evidence for widespread deliberate deception? I promise I’m not trying to be an arsehole, or just to win an arrangement. I genuinely think that it’s a very shitty situation for a minority of men, and when it happens it’s actually not either parties fault. If there’s a root cause I want to be honest about it. If my assumptions are wrong I’d like to know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 12:16 AM
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I’ve never dated men before, but if guys are routinely rooting and booting then this does make sense. As long as everyone is upfront about why and not being deceptive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:52 PM
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I would feel shitty, but that’s not her fault is if? Sex drives drop off in LTRs and with age. And relationships are so complicated. I’m fine to say that it’s immoral if she was somehow deliberately deceptive about how much sex they’d be having when married, but I really think that’s rare. Otherwise none of that is the women’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:47 PM
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Fair enough. Am I guess FDSers would say that if he couldn’t be bothered waiting around he wasn’t worth it anyway. (Also: Fuckzoned! New one for me)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:41 PM
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So FDSers keeping their HVM on standby have to weigh the risk he will get serious with one of his plates?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:31 PM
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I don’t think it’s selfish to want to be in an LTR for reasons other than sex. Wanting to start a family with someone you care about isn’t selfish. Refusing to compromise on sex in an LTR when your partner wants and you don’t is selfish. Withholding sex as some kind of manipulative game is borderline abusive. But just not having a high sex drive shouldn’t make it immoral for you to get married. There are lots of reasons to start an LTR, and sex isn’t a very good one. Just to clear this up, I’m m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:27 PM
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You’re not interested in a real conversation, so we’re done for today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:13 PM
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Maybe? I hope you know I’m just playing around here, humour doesn’t always come across on reddit :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:08 PM
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Marrying without sexual desire shouldn’t be immoral, but if there was some kind of calculated deception I would call that immoral. For example “can’t wait until this marriage is squared away so I never have to sleep with this guy again!”. But again, that feels pretty rare to me. I think a drop off in sexual desire in any LTR is common, for both men and women, and yes it must absolutely suck to be stuck in an LTR with that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:06 PM
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I’ll write to the boys down at the lab and we can get this cooking
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:51 PM
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I’m fine to go with any form of LTR infidelity is immoral, women and men both cheat at similar rates. Id be amazed to learn a large portion of women were deliberately getting married knowing they were going to cheat though. How often do you think that really happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:50 PM
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Does FDS insist that men who are waiting around for the LTR to start also not have sex with anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:39 PM
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“You would reject those [good men like me] for the guys who would beat you and put you in the hospital.” You’re saying women are rejecting good men for violent men. In this context you’re talking about sexually successful men, I.e Chads. So you did say it... right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:21 PM
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I honestly have no issues with any of that. Women shouldn’t expect anything of an individual man that that man isn’t interested in giving. Just like younger men shouldn’t expect anything from a younger woman that she isn’t interested in giving. The problem (that I firmly acknowledge) is the imbalance between sexual desires that causes so many issues. Would you say that a woman who has many hook ups in her younger years, and then starts looking for a long term relationship in her 30s is doing som…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:12 PM
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I think you might just be here to win an argument, and not to discuss in good faith. From what I can see here Roses hasn’t said you’re attacking her and she certainly hasn’t demanded love from any man at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:04 PM
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You made the positive claim that chads are violent towards women, so it’s up to you to provide your reason for saying that. I’m actually interested in what has convinced you. Get back to me on that and I’ll respond to the rest of what you said. We might even agree on some of it, I’m not the ardent male feminist you think I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:43 PM
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I really feel this man. When I was in my incel years I would have said the same thing. I was lonely even though I was surrounded by good friends and had a great life otherwise. Now I’m blissfully married, and can’t imagine any other life. Can I ask, if there was a daily drug you could take to turn off your sex drive would you take it? I feel like this should be achievable with modern medicine, right? Right now
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:58 PM
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When I was younger the answer was yes. Now (30s) it depends on how well I slept and if I had a big dinner. But probably yes. Actually I think the real answer is that if I had god powers to make any women I find attractive want to sleep with me I think the novelty would wear off after a few hundred girls, and I’d get really picky. I guess that’s an evolutionary survival thing to keep us sharp - I bet even 11/10 chad alphas have girls they want but can’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:47 PM
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“You reject guys that would put you in hospital etc” - I don’t know this sounds like classic “nice guy” to me. You’re painting a vivid mind picture from glimpses into reality. It’s so easy to imagine guys who are successful are actually secret scumbags, but do you have any evidence that’s what’s happening? What’s more, the anger at women in evidence on this subreddit aligns is completely consistent with violence towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:32 PM
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Couldn’t we rephrase this as “If you’re in a relationship without money problems, you’re engaging, and perform typical relationship duties, then your partner is more likely to find you attractive and want sex with you”? Aren’t we describing a normal healthy relationship at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 05:55 AM
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Thanks for linking the PDF, and let me be upfront and say I’ve no idea how to interpret the statistics. So I’m happy to take the 13% figure at face value. But this study only was done for women, so we can’t compare it to men. In the introduction the authors cite other studies that show men are more likely to be unfaithful than women. So again, I don’t think this says what the RP wants it to say - that it’s all those damn promiscuous women destroying relationships. Men cheat more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 05:41 AM
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To be clear it’s 1% higher for the 18-29 demographic, but for all others men are at least 2% more likely to cheat. But you’re right, the study references by the post shows that younger women cheat at slightly higher rates. However this isn’t exactly blowing my socks off. I’m not seeing anything to suggest the ubiquitous LTR disasters always the fault of women OP is talking about. And, I hope you’ll agree that neither the study linked in your other comment (which I’ll discuss there) or this linke…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 05:30 AM
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Tbh I think you’re fixating on a few anecdotes bouncing around your echo chamber. Even the linked wiki page doesn’t try to say it’s always women being unfaithful, just that they divorce more often. The same page you linked also claims than men cheat at a higher rate than women. Any thoughts on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:55 AM
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From my perspective you’re making a lot of broad generalisations. I’m sure you have reasons for the claims though, so educate me. Provide evidence for the following claims: 1. Most western women are promiscuous between 18-26. 2. Women over 26 don’t care about the men they form LTRs with 3. Such women are likely to cheat on their husbands. 4. Such women are likely to initiate divorce with their husbands I hope you appreciate I’m genuinely trying to find the gaps in our differing world views, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 12:59 AM
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80%? Doesn’t that strike you as a little suspicious? 4 in 5 “older women”? I did a few minutes of clicking through, and I can’t read the linked article due to a paywall, so I cant see how they came by this figure. Also, I noticed you deliberately linked an archived version instead of the current version. Any reason for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 12:46 AM
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All of that is a separate issue. You linked an article, presumably your best evidence, to rebut the claim that marriage later is less likely to result in divorce. Well your evidence doesn’t show what you said it does (maybe you thought no one would read it?). If you’d like to acknowledge you were mistaken I’d be happy to get into all the other places I disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 12:09 AM
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You’re right, it increases by 5% after 32. That still means that just after 32 is a great time to get married. And if you look at his graph the lowest part is the years between about 26 and 36 (I’m eyeballing it, so your results may vary). Do you see what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 09:49 PM
1

Absolutely true for us too, we always have to plan sex around takeout night. If we’re too full we just snuggle up instead haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 09:35 PM
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Isn’t that how the mgtow thing works? Can’t women just be doing their own thing too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:29 PM
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“let’s be honest here, sex is the primary good a woman brings into a LTR” (paraphrased) You’ve managed to generalise every relationship down to “the guy just wants sex”. You can’t think of a single reason to be in a relationship other than sex? Companionship? Taking advantage of 2 for 1 schnitzel night? I guess if you’ve only had shitty experiences maybe that is a fair enough way to feel about it. But there are millions of unique relationships out there and I’m sure most of them are about more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:26 PM
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The blog post you’ve linked implies you should actually marry between the ages 26-36. If all you care about is not getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:12 PM
1

I was always a typical drinker until my partner had to stop to take some medication and so I stopped in solidarity. Then I realised that I was only drinking to fulfil societal norms and I was perfectly happy not drinking. I find it a bit distasteful these days, I very rarely drink, but I’ve no real issue with those who do. Alcohol, like sex and drugs, can be taken to excess. But I think adults should be given license to make their own decisions. Society should aspire to reduce the risks of depen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 07:13 AM
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Broken larynx? Sounds way to kinky for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 10:34 PM
1

I’m just trying to point out the language used by some rpers on this site is insane. I’m sure you weren’t calling women whores while you were dating your partner. If you guys were on a date and you casually brought up rp talking points then wouldn’t your partner be weirded out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 08:26 PM
1

So you call women whores in casual conversation? Sounds great. What a charmer. Did you say you’re single?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 07:46 PM
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On that note I’m sure we’d all be entertained at how quickly red pill language changes in real life. Typing out the word whore is much easier than using it in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:21 PM
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Society seems to be fine with blaming Priests’ celibacy for the prevalence of sex crimes in those circles. Then we try to tell incels to just get over it. Well it’s not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:04 PM
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I really hope so. I haven’t dated for 10 years, so maybe my perspective is out. Most of his lines are trivial things I can’t see the big problem with. If I told a girl I was on a first date with “I used to have casual sex a lot” that might seem weird. But if we’re getting serious, a few weeks in, getting to know one another why hide it? I really don’t think many girls will care. I don’t care who she has been with, although it’s clear that’s a rarely I’m these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 11:17 AM
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You said it “scares the fuck out of you”. I’m seeing a massive overreaction to something trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 11:22 PM
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I guess there’s just no place for honestly and communication in relationships anymore. I still don’t understand why women who’ve “had a slutty phase” are bad. “I want a man who accepts me for who I am” - how in the gibbering fuck is that a red flag?”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 11:19 PM
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I’m newly amazed every time I find another post like this. Women who enjoy casual sex have, somehow, hurt all women. Did all the rp-ers get cheated on, and that’s where all this started?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 11:10 PM
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Sexual competition means that the guys are the ones who need to impress. The guys do the selling, the girls do the buying. It’s consistent with mating displays in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:28 AM
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Jesus Christ... why does it have to be so complicated? You’re bending over backwards to equate two different things. Women, like men, can have casual sex for a lot of reasons, and none of them require proving anything about themselves. It feels like you’re trying to shovel a heap of baggage attached to the world “prostitute” onto women who enjoy casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:38 AM
3

I guess there are a lot of emotionally stunted people out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:15 AM
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I think that your four criteria for when women want sex are consistent with a world view that women just, on average, want sex less than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:31 PM
1

It takes all kinds to make a world. I’m not going to do whatever the opposite of kink shaming is to you. Prude shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:25 PM
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Does Pornography count as “weird stuff?” :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 06:14 PM
1

That’s a great outcome mate. I hope you’re doing better. I simply haven’t heard that perspective before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 06:56 AM
1

I thought you did when you said “what is the purpose of professional help...etc” but I was probably reading too much into it. Can I ask what you think the reaction would be in the various Manosphere communities to a call for someone to seek professional help in response to someone showing suicidal tendencies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 09:33 PM
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People getting talked down from ledges then that is a great outcome. Perhaps the reason we can’t find common ground is our different perspectives. All people outside of that space see is the negative stuff, because the most shocking stuff is what rises to the top. I really don’t think anyone here is saying the communities shouldn’t exist (probably some are, it’s a big thread), just that they aren’t the answer for everyone. I was an incel before the term was invented, and if someone had told me i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 09:17 PM
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I sincerely didn’t know you were talking about access to spaces to talk. Still it feels like a big leap to go from “go do something else” to “you’re causing suicide”. If these are positive places where men can talk about their feelings and find advice and healthy outlet for their frustrations then I’m absolutely all for them. I put it to you that openly discussing black pill suicidal thoughts in an environment where seeking professional help is discouraged (as you did yourself two posts ago) is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:33 PM
1

“What is the purpose of professional help, help that he knows is going to work against him...” This is laughable. This hypothetical person knows they are right, but also knows if they seek advice from professionals they might be convinced they are wrong. It’s like being scared to answer the door in case the mormons convert you. If you’re so sure you’re right then why shut out other ideas? Because you don’t wanna get your membership to the grumpy men’s club cancelled?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:03 PM
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OP is saying that a step away from this environment, gaining some new perspective, might be positive. They have their own evidence as an example. I’d love to understand why you think that makes OP responsible for all these suicides.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:48 PM
1

I think you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:41 PM
2

I love the view that women are Great Birds of Prey and Incels are lambs in this metaphor. It really is well put though. If all incels did was form support groups, give advice, and point out mental health resources things wouldn’t be great but it would be a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:41 PM
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Sorry for taking a few days to wb I wasn’t sure how to respond honestly. I think I’m comfortable with everything you’ve said in your comment. I just think talking about capitalism and economic inequality complicates the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:27 PM
1

You’re absolutely right. Maybe it is just some evolutionary throwback? Am I just so cucked I’ve suppressed some evolutionary urge?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:44 PM
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Thanks for the reply, and I think we’ve had similar journeys. I won’t say I enjoy doing the dishes, but I enjoy having a productive partnership. It’s actually from something I read posted on r/inceltears, I’ll see if I can find it. Edit: here it is https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/iphgmo/incel_scrote_expresses_his_hate_towards_women_yet/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:27 PM
1

Genuinely curious, do you feel the same way about all pornstars? Sex workers? What about fashion models?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:33 AM
2

Yeah that sounds plausible - I’ll see if I can find the study and have a look. But are we sure that separation is worse for both partners long term? I remember reading a study that suggests divorce creates a short term lowering of happiness, but over the long term couples who divorce are happier than couples who stay together. I suspect that having more experiences tends to give people less inertia to overcome when they consider leaving a bad relationship. And should the goal of society be to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:29 AM
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Thanks for the response, I’m just really glad I’m not just shouting into the void here. Respectfully though, I don’t want to conflate widening inequality gaps with how hard it’s becoming for men to compete in the dating world. The two things have different origins and require different conversations. It’s possible the two worsen each other, but they are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:19 AM
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Op said “ex OnlyFans”, so I was responding to the idea that someone is forever undatable because they used it in the past. It’s fair to say that dating someone currently using OnlyFans is more confronting. But, pornstars and sex workers still date, and there are plenty of men comfortable enough to date them. If it becomes normalised men will either get used to it or they will have a smaller pool of girls to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:14 AM
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I don’t agree it’s emotional manipulation. I think everyone knows what they’re getting into when they pay money to see nudies. I’ll grant that some people become emotionally attached, but I don’t think it’s the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:02 AM
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What data? Are there statistics that say men are unhappier with women who are experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:22 PM
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I’ve thought a bit more about this. It feels like these preferences, while not misogynist in isolation, are 1. Consistent with an outdated approach to women’s autonomy, which I would consider borderline misogynistic. 2. Discussed frequently in red pill circles, for some reason. If we take the red pill as a given, then why aren’t red pill men more accepting of high N counts? It’s possibly the least most important thing when selecting a partner. You wouldn’t even know if you didn’t ask most of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:13 PM
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Why N count? That means “Number Count”, which is stupid. Wouldn’t P&V count make more sense? Eh, why fight the tide
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:54 PM
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Not sure if this is appropriate but really like that this community exists. I have so many feelings around this topic. I’ve been happily married for 10+ years to my beautiful wife, a real proper beta cuck partnership, I even do the dishes. In my younger years I struggled to meet people purely because of my own confidence issues. Once I did have sex in my 20s a lot of that went away, but that sexless period had an impact on me. I feel like in today’s much more competitive dating world I wouldn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:56 PM
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Thanks for helping me perceive my own biases OP. I probably should be less quick to pass judgement about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:23 PM
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I am married/partnered for 10+ years. While I was dating the answer for me was a firm no. Sex and sexual compatibility was important to me when I was looking for any kind of relationship, long term or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:20 PM
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“Just as most men would never date an ex-hooker ex-pornstar an ex-OnlyFans emotional abuser will simply be unappealing...” I think if what you’re predicting (that it’s normalised by 2030) most men will get over their discomfort.(edit - fixed a misquote)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:04 PM
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Why is someone undatable because they use onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:58 PM
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