gives_heroin_to_kids Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
5	How would you defend your pill in one sentence?		gives_heroin_to_kids	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/15 11:27 PM
2	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation?		gives_heroin_to_kids	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 12:48 AM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	Here's why equality is the answer The other reply to your comment seems pretty accurate, but like they said, in the end (figuratively, and literally at the end of their comment), while the dick of the law is rather large, the government obviously did not impregnate them. It is ironic that many place blame upon the organization that's using others' contributions to help further their genetic legacy because they were irresponsible and foolish enough to bring a human into a world they're already struggling in. Of course, maybe I'm …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 10:02 PM
5	Here's why equality is the answer I need an explanation The simple explanation is that people are moronic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 07:30 PM
1	Here's why equality is the answer I wonder if allowing men to opt out of raising a child would result in more abortions. That could be good for the country if it meant less people who could not afford children were having children. If not, poor women who cannot keep themselves from becoming pregnant would be even more reliant upon me as a taxpayer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 07:20 PM
6	You can't be MGTOW or be 'Preferably Monogamous' if you can't get other women. I laughed at that part. Basically said, "What's the point of going your own way if women don't care?" Well who the fuck cares whether they care? Moreover, why does OP care? Why would anyone in the manosphere care? I don't participate here much, but I'm still subscribed for the interesting reads that come along every so often, not for creating sides and building walls to sling shit over.	/r/TheRedPill	28/08/16 07:23 PM
1	CMV: Rape never became considered a major issue in America because feminists focus on expanding the definition of rape, and not focusing on the worst cases of rape. What benefit do you garner by bringing nationwide attention to it? None, I doubt it would bring about any change. I'm not saying black people should protest black-on-black crime or anything like that, I still find it worth noting that "Black Lives Matter" focuses only on blacks killed by cops. Just because you don't see black people trying to fix their problems doesn't mean they aren't. Trying doesn't really mean much when statistics reflect otherwise. And they can protest against police all the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/16 10:20 PM
4	CMV: Rape never became considered a major issue in America because feminists focus on expanding the definition of rape, and not focusing on the worst cases of rape. This type of thing is also ignored by the BLM movement. Although black people are killed by cops disproportionately (yet not as often in general) in comparison to whites, they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Not to mention, about 90 percent of the time a black person is murdered, it's at the hand of another black person. So it appears that as far as BLM is concerned, black lives only matter when they're taken by white cops.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/16 07:21 PM
1	What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct? enraged-infant attack Hah, as in they're attacking infants who are enraged or they're the enraged infants? I prefer debating ideas rather than sides, but both act like enraged infants a lot of the time, same with many modern feminists I've seen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/16 02:51 PM
2	What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct? Not speaking on anyone else's behalf, but there's a difference between blame and recognition. For example, my parents were very strict when I was younger, which contributed to my introverted personality at the time. You could accuse me of blaming them, but I'll gladly admit it isn't their fault; it's my own. Identifying something as a potential influence on your actions doesn't necessarily mean you aren't taking responsibility for them. For example, people may recognize Disney films as a source …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/16 01:07 AM
6	CMV Most of the men here have no clue how to deal with complications or setbacks. That generalization is so vague it's practically cheerleading. Not saying the vagueness wasn't appropriate in response to my comment, but there's not much to debate here because of how unspecific it is. Although the 150,000 thing was very specific; I wonder if it'd be more poorly received if TRP made a comment like that about women. Might as well ask, an example of a reasonable generalization would be recommending exercise for men because women are attracted to muscles, yes/no?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/16 02:43 AM
7	CMV Most of the men here have no clue how to deal with complications or setbacks. And as it was foretold, I didn't even have to make a specific generalization for you to move on to the second phase. Or maybe you're on Side 1 because you're generalizing about a side.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/16 01:14 AM
4	CMV Most of the men here have no clue how to deal with complications or setbacks. I think I know how this goes. Side 1 makes a generalization, side 2 says not everyone is like that, side 1 doesn't care because they're focusing on the majority, someone says "sexism," someone gets called a "special snowflake," and then—most importantly—nobody's minds are changed, so we come back to discuss the same thing next week. Not implying anything's wrong with this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/16 01:01 AM
3	Why do women tell men it's disgusting to objectify a women, while at the same time find it sexy to be objectified by a man they deem attractive? It's a childish concept. We are objects. Just a bunch of DNA that thinks very highly of itself. If a girl wants to view me as a walking cock, I can't begin to imagine how I could possibly convince myself to give half a shit. Besides, if women "sexually objectify" me, maybe it's because they dig my package. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that I love sexual objectification, and you should too. It brings us together as objects, and secures the survival of our species. If I say I wanna chop that a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/16 08:26 PM
3	Q4RP: What are your relationships with other men like? Most people you meet or most people you associate with? The latter is my case because I typically only maintain friendships with people who have similar hobbies/interests, like playing instruments and tripping balls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/16 04:33 PM
9	Accidental RP by a BP guy Of course they're entirely responsible for being retarded, but you asked why they're being retarded. There's a difference between "blaming" your own stupidity on society and simply recognizing its influence. Feminism, for example, sticks with blaming while TRP is constructed for recognizing and acting accordingly.	/r/TheRedPill	14/07/16 01:40 AM
2	Q4BP: I often see accusations of TRP encouraging emotional abuse and emotional manipulation, but I honestly can't say I've seen it. Can you please specify what part of Red Pill philosophy you mean? You could say communication is inherently manipulative, and the negative connotation associated with manipulation may lead people to assume it's inherently bad, but manipulation is unavoidable when, for example, you negotiate a trade or interview for a job, whether you're attempting to convince someone to have sex with you or trying to get them to leave your home. Besides, being a "manipulative jerk" isn't illegal, and if a transsexual or a fat girl in a corset "manipulated" me into having sex w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/16 09:54 PM
10	I guess I'm still blue pill because I'm stunned at all the female infidelity I've come to discover, just at my job alone B-but TBP told me TRP hates promiscuous women and only wants to have sex with 14 year old virgins	/r/TheRedPill	08/07/16 11:39 PM
-1	Women of PPD: Is bad sex better than no sex? I can't speak for people that would rather have sex with someone they're not attracted to than not have sex at all, but the line of thinking probably isn't much more than "dick feel good." I don't imagine it's as much a matter of "wanting to be bad at sex" as it is not caring and just wanting to get your rocks off. Putting more effort into sex with an unattractive partner probably won't make it that much better for you anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/16 05:15 AM
0	Women of PPD: Is bad sex better than no sex? not attracted to the woman Yeah I'd rather just not have sex instead of having sex with a fat woman, but I imagine many guys out there may do otherwise, so I maintain that point; it's simply a matter of preference. I can see why—maybe the've gotten tired of fucking their hands and would prefer any vagina, even one that belongs to an unattractive girl—but to each their own. Fatties want some action too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/16 04:51 AM
0	Women of PPD: Is bad sex better than no sex? humping a couch Vaginas feel better than couches? If you'd rather have sex with someone than masturbate, it's not "irrational" to do that without putting forth 100% effort. And as far as I read, he's not saying men in this scenario are "not attracted to them." Sounds like he's describing a scenario similar to a very talented pianist just jamming out at home for fun, without putting forth 100% effort since they're already enjoying themselves. Throwing around words like psychotic, mean, and irrati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/16 02:56 AM
11	There are no 9's or 10's only 5's and 6's who are good with makeup (Short Post) "No, that girl isn't a 9. Imagine if she were fat."	/r/TheRedPill	07/07/16 07:47 PM
17	Randomly Refuse Her Sex. What's the other half, applauding?	/r/TheRedPill	07/07/16 03:31 PM
2	What couple do you see more often: a fat man and thin woman couple. or a thin man and fat woman couple? Yeah dude, come to a state fair and you'll see more obesity and fried food in one area than anywhere else on earth. I'm talking triple-fried donut burgers being eaten by human bowling balls whose limbs are more accurately described as loose bags of marshmallow fluff than arms or legs, so they can't go on any rides as it's a danger to everyone else. And if you listen closely, sputtery pants and grunts echo throughout the fairgrounds as people from every direction simultaneously lean forward from …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/16 03:08 AM
1	What couple do you see more often: a fat man and thin woman couple. or a thin man and fat woman couple? Probably because of the pulled pork. In the South I often see either slightly overweight men with thin(ish) women or a skinny dudes with very fat chicks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/16 01:07 AM
1	What TRP gets wrong about "assholes" and getting laid He didn't say people can't be nice without being a doormat (as far as I read, so it may be you that's "taking the example to its most extreme"), but the fact that you'd call someone a doormat just because they "don't like getting rejected or making women reject them" is what he's referring to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/16 08:07 PM
1	Deep seated misogyny amongst nerds The same reason most movie stars are attractive. People like attractive people. Besides, what do you want, Lara Croft to try swinging branches at 240 lbs?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/16 04:31 AM
2	CMV: Women do not like "swole" men. Exactly. I didn't realize how much work it took even to be a little "swole" until I started lifting regularly. Most people probably don't realize that, but the funny thing is how it becomes more enjoyable as you get into it. Reminds me of when I was 14 or so. I started lifting, but quit after a few weeks because I didn't see any results and rationalized it with the skinny equivalent of "fat logic" by assuming I just couldn't build much muscle (since some of my friends packed it on without a lot …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/16 01:52 AM
1	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. Yeah I'm using it sarcastically. I never really cared enough to look it up but I'm guessing it's used to describe what happens when something causes someone with PTSD to experience symptoms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/16 01:05 AM
1	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. I think most people misunderstand the meaning of that word.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 09:40 PM
3	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. You may be underestimating how easily SJWs can be triggered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 08:12 PM
2	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. Well yeah, one is paper and the other is a chunk of flesh. And I'm not sure what the endgame of all this is, but I think being vocal about getting really offended by "irrelevant" online comments may actually cause more people to make them rather than the opposite. For example, if you reply to a "nice boobs" comment with "that's really offensive, stop objectifying her," you'll probably get responses saying you're jealous of her tits or people asking for pics of your tits. But it's kind of funny b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 07:52 PM
2	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. you don't have to lay down and take it I get that, what I don't get is why some online comments bother some people so much in the first place. social consequences Do you think there should be legal consequences for hurting someone's feelings?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 06:55 PM
5	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. Well sure, I'm not saying people shouldn't have the "right" to get "offended," I just don't understand the point in getting so butthurt about comments like "sweet titties." And it's a bit ironic because I've seen BPers call RPers bitter, but it goes both ways in this sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 06:27 PM
3	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. So if they have a GTA poster in the background of the video, is it "inappropriate" to bring that up because of the context of the video?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 05:47 PM
3	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. As someone who plays, I always appreciate any comments/criticism about my gear, especially from someone who just listened to me play. I put a lot of work into setting up my rig, and getting angry about someone complimenting my amp or even my hair just seems childish. Not only because I know my hair looks good, but I see no reason in getting worked up about online compliments or insults. "Objectification" and "reduction" seem like laughable, "fake" problems. It's not anyone's fault other than the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 05:45 PM
3	CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality. Or he just likes triggering SJWs	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 04:54 PM
2	Explanation about rape fantasies Cool, I didn't know there was a name for the way I get to sleep every night.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/16 01:11 AM
2	You guys - I found her! The unicorn! So women aren't allowed to express themselves in the workplace now? I'll bet you don't even realize how much of a misogynextist you sound like right now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/16 12:48 AM
2	Do you think TRP would be true if it applied to both sexes? Yeah, part of "swallowing the pill" is not only a matter of recognizing traits like that in others—men or women—but more importantly, accepting responsibility for your own mistakes, stupidity, and/or weaknesses of the past without blaming others. Especially women; as I have read it, TRP focuses more on recognizing traits/flags in women instead of "blaming" them, and whether users laugh, seem angry, or like they're triggering snowflakes, two large parts of what BPers strongly dislike are tone and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/16 03:17 AM
1	Lessons from your matriarchs. Out of curiosity, how would you react if he said he wasn't interested in marriage?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/16 07:53 PM
2	Anti-Male Media Continues War on Men: Milo Yiannopoulos Suspended From Twitter more intense People have always been killing each other in their god's names, but "intense" may be a good way to illustrate the fact that they now have far more advanced technology (from weaponry and communicative ability), which is a bad thing. I'm upvoting your comment because you put so much thought into it; that being said, I completely disagree, but I'm also not religious/spiritual.	/r/TheRedPill	16/06/16 03:02 AM
45	I permanently deleted Facebook That's odd. I get my white and male privilege checks in the mail each month but I've never received one for heterosexual privilege.	/r/TheRedPill	13/06/16 07:13 PM
1	"Sexual strategy is amoral.". What does this mean to you? Very common and effective as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/16 03:41 PM
1	"Sexual strategy is amoral.". What does this mean to you? To drive this example to an extreme, theoretically, rape could be sexual strategy. Of course, the legal consequences make all the difference. its up to the individual to add that part or care about it That as well. And you can say law is a product of ethics/morality (like social contractarianism), but when you game someone, it seems like the main difference between TBP and TRP is that TRP says that it's perfectly fine since women are (or should be legally considered) adults who can make their ow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/16 12:58 AM
6	CMV: No rational person can use TRP's advice on "pushing past" LMR and ignore a sincere "no" Out of curiosity, if a girl didn't say no/stop once because she claims she was "too afraid of what might happen," would you call the man a rapist?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/16 12:47 AM
4	Would a better Beta strategy subreddit get men laid? Then what's the LTR section doing there?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/16 07:26 PM
31	There's a new gender gap that's building in America: women have surged ahead of men in obesity. And while it may work for women, simply "not being fat" isn't enough to cut it for being an attractive male. In some cases, a chubby dude can actually be better off than a skinny little bitch. Jizzebel and the Fluffington Post can keep telling women that fatness is the physical manifestation of empowerment, but it's kinda funny to see girls who would actually be really attractive (and happier) if they lost 20 pounds, but most who go fat don't come back. Then the "body-positive" delusions settle …	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/16 01:33 AM
13	Welcome New Subscribers! The newcomers from Reddit's yearly "THE REDPILL WILL KILL YOU INSIDE" post are arriving. Honestly I like posting things specifically to offend BPers every so often	/r/TheRedPill	06/06/16 05:36 PM
1	Question to all: Women shaming small penis men Whoa there, no need to be disrespectful. I didn't say I hate fat girls, just that I find them physically repulsive. My comment explores the ways in which that sentiment can be expressed, as well as the reactions it may generate. You're more than welcome to "shame" me, but please don't put words in my mouth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/16 04:13 PM
1	Question to all: Women shaming small penis men And men are likely more preoccupied with dick size because they're the ones who actually have the dicks. Really sucks for any guy with a small one, but a girl can always just find another dude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/16 01:31 AM
2	Question to all: Women shaming small penis men Sure, but I have a preference for skinny/athletic girls because I think fat girls are are gross. The way you say it, the way they interpret it, and the place or context in which you share that opinion are factors worth considering. For example, I can say, "I'm not attracted to fat girls." Perfectly reasonable statement. People may respect that as a personal opinion of mine and either agree or disagree, while others will still get their panties in a wad, no matter what. I can say that to a fat gi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/16 06:21 PM
0	Question to all: Women shaming small penis men Or how you respond to it. 1) Me too. 2) I respectfully disagree. 3) Haha! 4) GO KILL YOURSELF, BODY SHAMER Or is it body "shamist?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/16 01:13 AM
0	Question to all: Women shaming small penis men What's so bad about not liking uncircumcised penises? Sure, even as someone who's cut, I'd say it's dumb, but is "body shaming" what people refer to as sexual preferences now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/16 10:50 PM
3	Question to all: Women shaming small penis men That's because there are more guys into small tits than there are women into small penises.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/16 10:26 PM
2	CMV: Red Pill believes that women are "out to get them" But TRP already does focus a bit on what men do, it's just more centered around how those actions impact society or the individual readers. Like the guy you replied to said, "If you do Z, they'll definitely do X and Y." His point is that, for example, if one person says that women cheat, and you say that men do as well, it just doesn't really serve any practical purpose as far as TRP readers are concerned. The guys attracted to TRP will only care about what other men do to the extent that it'll …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/16 08:18 PM
1	Do the gender roles exist primarily because of the other gender? Agreed. And one of the most interesting parts of that is how even biological differences between things like how men and women reproduce influence cultural norms, which in turn influences biology since those cultural preferences may drive women to reproduce with certain men, therefore creating new genetic traits and mutations that determine the futures of both evolution and culture. Although they both influence one another, culture is ultimately a product of evolution. How could culture exist be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/16 04:22 AM
1	So, a bunch of skinny geeks get photoshopped in Buzzfeed's video for "Body Positive" week. Do you agree with the video's message? Would you say it's because it'd turn you on more if a guy didn't have to be told what you find attractive since it implies he's a "natural" (as opposed to a faker)? [edit] Or would you say it's more a matter of not "knowing" what you find attractive? For example, if it "feels more natural" to "love" some guy without knowing it's because of his chiseled chin and broad shoulders? And maybe you know you like muscles deep down, but consciously/unconsciously ignore that to keep up the idea/narrative …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/16 09:29 PM
31	Article about 60 year old Mel Gibson dating a 25 year old woman. Comments are full of shaming language & Red Pill GOLD! What's funny is that these women who call Mel "creepy" and "weird" for being older are probably the same ones who call men pigs for finding older women less attractive than younger ones.	/r/TheRedPill	25/05/16 05:48 PM
3	Article about 60 year old Mel Gibson dating a 25 year old woman. Comments are full of shaming language & Red Pill GOLD! I found that particular comment amusing. These men are well aware of the fact that they're no longer as young as they once were.. but they're still with younger women, so they are still "having it."	/r/TheRedPill	25/05/16 04:54 PM
1	CMV: If feminists and women's studies college programs cared more about getting women in stem fields, they would change getting a women's studies degree to include multiple stem classes Heh, I bet if they took a few STEM courses then it'd help them realize why. [edit] I take that back, they've been trained to blame everything on sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/16 01:04 AM
7	Question for red pillers: How exactly do you want a woman to love you? Most people probably don't, that's why it's called a romantic "fantasy." Unconditional love is an idiotic concept. It seems appealing to people when they see it on television, but someone who fails to let any of their partner's actions get in the way of their feelings for them may be mentally unstable. This is why the whole "loving them for who they are rather than what they do" thing is stupid. You are what you do. What you do is a reflection of who you are. "Love" is made out to be some myster…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/16 04:22 PM
1	Megyn Kelly spills RP truths on Howard Stern Sounds like you could use some hobbies that you prioritize over your phone. Regardless, it only takes a little self control, which you're completely capable of. When you find something you enjoy doing, you'll forget about your phone. But like I said, it's easy for me because I don't enjoy texting girls; I have to force myself to do it. And I don't really "text" people conversationally, I only text people in order to hang out.	/r/TheRedPill	20/05/16 02:51 PM
3	Megyn Kelly spills RP truths on Howard Stern actually being busy I'm usually busy doing something (if not work then working out, practicing guitar, arguing with liberals online, building things, and so on), but texting girls is so fucking boring. Yet it kinda works in my favor because I miss a lot of their texts and seem really disconnected. Beta me never understood why girls only continued texting me when I hardly texted them back.	/r/TheRedPill	19/05/16 09:40 PM
4	If women who are mistreated by male partners are at fault for choosing the hot douche instead of the unattractive nice guy, what about men who are mistreated by female partners? Is it their fault for choosing the hot bitch instead of the unattractive nice girl? If you didn't really care about religion, why marriage?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/16 10:07 PM
3	Husband gets no BJ's for 2 years, gets advice to be kinder to the wife and don't pressure her. Sex life goes from everyday to never. What are your thoughts on this? I don't think it's unreasonable to say people can develop pragmatic generalizations about sexual relations based on anecdotes and personal experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/16 12:55 AM
1	Would you say gender roles should be "forced" on people? How many boys ask their fathers to buy them fairy dresses?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/16 11:38 PM
1	Question for men: When have you turned down sex? Question for women: When have you been turned down? I turned down a girl who grabbed my ass at a party because she was ugly. And I turned down a girl who started kissing me at a party because she was fat. That's about it. I can't count how many times I've been rejected, though. If not hundreds then probably over one thousand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/16 11:00 PM
7	CMV: One of the most common miscommunications between TRP and TBP is that TRP assume every argument is about sex. He's focusing on results rather than definitions. For example, if you say you find nerds attractive, and I'm a nerd, does it really matter to me at all whether you think I'm "attractive" or "alluring" if you're not willing to have sex with me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/16 10:31 PM
1	Is there a fundamental misunderstanding of the 'nice guy' phenomena? Well yeah, the implication is that they're "not actually nice" because they want to have sex. That's what my comment refers to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/16 09:27 PM
2	Is there a fundamental misunderstanding of the 'nice guy' phenomena? Implying "being nice" and wanting sex are mutually exclusive	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/16 08:34 PM
1	The wall for actresses versus actors I thought it was okay at best. But I'm also not one for Hollywood's focus on remakes/sequels of classic films, nor am I a Disney/Abrams fan. It was like a superhero flick with the Star Wars brand on it. I think the comic relief sucked, the characters were lame, some weak scriptwriting, blatant marketing, and the story wasn't very creative/original. Just very overrated in general. The special effects weren't bad, but I view it like I do the prequels. The prequels had the opportunity to tell a gre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/16 07:15 PM
1	The wall for actresses versus actors Dumb and Dumber is a comedic masterpiece.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/16 06:50 PM
2	The wall for actresses versus actors Films marketed towards women suck—and I'm biased as a male—but there are a few films with great female leads. Jodie Foster killed it in Silence of the Lambs. I love that film; her character was great. I thought the Terminator series did pretty well with Sarah Connor, too. Princess Leia in the original Star Wars trilogy was a great character too, but Disney's new Star Wars film basically made the female lead a superhero because they were scared of making her a "damsel in distress."	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/16 06:38 PM
1	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again It's beautiful in a way, isn't it. But I guess you can still develop kind of a "character" since, unlike a site such as 4chan, users have to create usernames.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 10:28 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again That's what I like about anonymously debating people online; I can rationally discuss subjects that may be sensitive to others without worrying about my reputation getting destroyed by false accusations of bigotry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 09:13 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again I already understand your argument, and if you want a response to the jury argument then read my previous reply. Race isn't black and white (heh). It's not a binary scale—now more than ever—because what one person's labels as racist may not be viewed the same way by others. I might be called "homophobic" when I call you a faggot, but it doesn't change whether my claims following that word are correct or incorrect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 08:36 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again Because it assumes that a subjective analysis of someone's character is a better indication of the rationality of their claims than a legitimate rational analysis of the actual claims themselves. I could say, "Oh this kid's just some PC fag, s/he's more concerned with feelings than fact. I'll just assume everything he says is wrong rather than hearing out his argument to see if it has any shred of legitimacy." But that'd be an irrational assumption based on my emotional/subjective reaction/perce…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 07:57 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again Evidently, you wouldn't, because your emotions prevent you from rationally analyzing a claim. I would, because I like debating and challenging my views. For example, I think your argument is irrational but I'm still discussing it with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 07:46 PM
1	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again Evidently, you wouldn't, because your emotions prevent you from rationally analyzing a claim. I would, because I like debating and challenging my views. For example, I think your argument is irrational but I'm still discussing it with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 07:46 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again wonder what you left out, what you passed over As you should do with everything, even sources you typically trust/agree with, not just "bigots." Doubt is great, but you can only doubt a claim if you're willing to consider it in the first place. And it seems like you're not willing to do that if you perceive someone as a "bigot," which, as you say, is "illogical from the very beginning."	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 06:44 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again Yes, I agree a legal proceeding should have unbiased jurors who are not personally related to the criminal on trial or something like that (because they may give a "not guilty" verdict in their own best interest rather than doing so in pursuit of justice/truth), but it still doesn't mean everything they say is automatically false. It seems like your logic says, "He's related to the accused, so everything he says is automatically false, and because of that, he isn't allowed to be questioned." Yet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 05:29 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again My only point is that your subjective decision to label someone as a "bigot" has no bearing on the validity of their claims because their claims should speak for themselves. You're basically saying you value ethos over logos. Judging by what I understand of your argument, if someone you call racist quotes legitimate statistics from a reliable source (that may reflect poorly upon a particular race), your choice to label that person as racist automatically leads you to assume those statistics are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 04:16 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again Actually, there's no logical discourse happening because you refuse to hear it. You realize that by hating a group of people (those you'd label racist/sexist) and refusing to consider any of their arguments, in a sense, you're doing the same thing you accuse them of? You're being irrational by letting your feelings about people determine the validity of their claims rather than just viewing the argument itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 03:57 PM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again If anything it just means that you're pretty close-minded because you let personal feelings prevent logical discourse. I've had plenty of rational discussions with opposing fans in regards to why my team sucks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 03:20 PM
3	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again No, I don't think everyone who is accused of racism/sexism made remarks "purely" to further free speech, that's not what I stated. I can't speak on behalf of everyone who dislikes political correctness, but I imagine some (especially the online crowd, which a lot of people have the most exposure to since they can post anonymously) respond to it with "racism/sexism" as a "fuck you" to the PC crowd since they're probably viewed as a threat to their freedom of speech, which is why I'd say the "anti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 02:46 AM
2	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again Then even if I liked the patriots, if you presented a valid, rational argument as to why their defense sucks then I'd be willing to consider it and possibly agree with you. By your logic I should immediately disagree with anything you or other opposing fans say about football.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 02:26 AM
3	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again Of all I wrote, that's what you got out of it? Please reread my comment and find something that I actually said to disagree with. Regardless, limiting free speech to adhere to your feelings is what the Catholic church did to Galileo. For example, think about sociological studies. Is it good for the scientific approach as well as your intellectual ability if you have to stop to think every time you find new results, "Will this study hurt someone's feelings? Maybe? Better throw it out now."	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 01:59 AM
5	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again That's not the point. It's irrational to completely discredit any claim that someone makes because of unrelated things they say that hurt your feelings. It's irrational to assume that because of one irrational claim, every other claim following it is irrational. It's irrational to assume that someone who says one irrational thing is incapable of making any rational claims. [edit] For example, I think you're being irrational right now, which I'll keep in mind, but I'll also continue attempting to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 01:52 AM
8	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again Which, as far as I understand, is that if someone said one thing that offends you—no matter how unrelated it is to the current topic at hand—it immediately discredits any point they may make because it indicates a "fucked up belief system?" That's like you disagreeing with me saying "5+5=10" because you looked in my post history and saw me say "Jews suck."	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/16 12:31 AM
10	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again If I say "black people are more likely to murder," even if I am racist, it has no effect on the validity of my statement. Whether I hate all black people doesn't change the statistics; your accusation of racism is just an emotional, subjective reaction to a statement that you don't like, as a tactic that shuts down debate. So no, "anti-PC" people don't give a fuck about your feelings; they care about free speech (the very thing you use to whine about racism and sexism), and they value someone's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/16 11:43 PM
13	CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable again You missed the joke. He's pointing out how ridiculous it is to discredit someone's argument on the sole basis of "racism" or "sexism." Arguments built on accusations like those have no more substance than an insult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/16 09:28 PM
1	How would RPW react if the husband does something incredibly stupid? TRP focuses on changing yourself but there's still a general attitude that, yes, while change is obviously possible, it takes a lot of work, and most people typically don't change much (which is why they wouldn't recommend dating a self-proclaimed "ex-slut").	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/16 05:07 PM
1	If women love men, why don't they create art for them? Okay, thank you for the clarification on the rules. And don't worry, I know you cannot publicly agree with one side or another.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 12:59 AM
1	If women love men, why don't they create art for them? I thought you'd call me out for rule 2 instead. On that note, does it count as trolling if I'm responding to a troll or is that treated more like a double negative? I'm glad you saw through my tone and agree with my argument, though, so thank you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 12:15 AM
2	If women love men, why don't they create art for them? Admittedly, the vast majority of art I enjoy is created by men, and while I didn't initially think this topic was worth discussing (since we know men are superior to women), seeing your comment makes me glad OP posted it because it's hilarious how your brain automatically resorts to placing the blame on men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/16 09:39 PM
2	I Objectify Women And that claims of "objectification" and "dehumanization" have no more substance than a feminist saying its feelings have been hurt. Which is completely irrelevant (and hilarious) when you're focused on results. Or reality. Seriously, how childish is it to complain that someone "doesn't see you as human?" In fact, I'm not even attracted to women. I literally see them as walking plates with silverware arms. I invite anyone reading this to objectify me as hard as you can.	/r/TheRedPill	25/04/16 07:55 PM
19	CMV: "Don't ask fish for advice on catching fish, ask a fisherman" is a flawed analogy And adding onto that, the women these guys may have asked for advice from have no experience picking up women while men do (and not only success, but knowing what actions result in rejection as well). This leaves two options: Women are too stupid to know what actually turns them on and are misidentifying it to others, or that they do know and they are deliberately lying. And they may unconsciously omit crucial details that they didn't notice or are ashamed of or something. For example, men will …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/16 12:42 AM
2	How do you stop procrastinating? What are you procrastinating from doing? This is going to sound condescending, but if I find myself being lazy (not doing something I don't want to do), I simply tell myself to stop being a pussy, sigh (if necessary), and get started. Getting started is step 1 anyway. Don't think about what you want to do, think about what you want to finish.	/r/askTRP	17/04/16 07:37 PM
2	The new Star Wars spin off looks like another SJW beaverfest Agreed. Yet ironically, the main antagonist from TFA was a total pussbag.	/r/TheRedPill	13/04/16 01:28 AM
14	The new Star Wars spin off looks like another SJW beaverfest Complaining about the way your demographic is portrayed by the media is a feministic tactic. White men are the best at being villains anyway. Nobody could've taken Vader seriously if he told Luke, "I am your mother" in a high-pitched black female voice.	/r/TheRedPill	10/04/16 08:22 PM
18	The new Star Wars spin off looks like another SJW beaverfest It's not worth your money. For TFA, they knew Star Wars fans (who were typically white males) would pay to see it no matter what, so they casted an attractive female lead to widen their target demographic. And it worked very well. But if they keep trying to force these "rebellious, strong, independent" female leads into the films, they may risk losing the original fanbase. I've even heard people commenting on how Disney appears to be directing more resources towards marketing the whole "girl pow…	/r/TheRedPill	10/04/16 07:47 PM
96	A quick bit of dread game from Humans of New York From the comments, Hey, men -- take a look at how many females identify with the struggles of this woman. It's an embarrassment to our gender. Because we all know that any woman who keeps jumping into shark-infested waters has obviously been brainwashed by the sharks. And it's not that she's mentally incapable of thinking for herself.. no, no, that can't be it, because she's a strong and independent woman.. and surely she doesn't actually enjoy swimming with the sharks.. those bastards have just…	/r/TheRedPill	10/04/16 06:42 PM
1	Why pressure someone into sex they don't want? It's still a false equivalency. My only point is that it's ironic how you accuse him of comparing apples to oranges in regards to defining coercion after comparing consensual sex to murder.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/16 10:56 PM
2	Why pressure someone into sex they don't want? They were both comments on the same thread about coercion. Why can't /u/OlBastard compare not letting someone stay on his property without giving him sex to not letting his friend play Xbox without giving him Cheetos, but you can compare it to stabbing someone?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/16 12:40 AM
1	CMV TRP men are angry because physical looks, unlike before, plays a large role mate selection. They are even angrier because women have little sympathy for their plight. And you can say TBP is a bitter coalition that throws internet tantrums about TRP. In either case, what exactly is wrong with people who "just don't get" something either working together to "get it" or occasionally sharing their frustration with each other? And it's kind of ironic how TBP criticizes TRP for a "mean tone" since they also accuse members of "whining" and "throwing tantrums." It's like seeing two random people you don't know talking about something, and they're kind of upset, so yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/16 12:27 AM
1	Why pressure someone into sex they don't want? You're comparing apples to oranges. You just compared consensual sex to getting stabbed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/16 12:29 AM
3	Q4women: would it be ok for you if sexbots and virtual sex were a thing? Seems kind of redundant. You could say the same of any community, including TBP. Like, "You guys sure spend an awful lot of time talking about/complaining about/over-analyzing the manosphere, despite claiming moral superiority over it." Of course, that should be expected when you go to a subreddit that's specifically dedicated to that, or different parts of the web that focus on male/female relations in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/16 12:27 AM
2	Q4women: would it be ok for you if sexbots and virtual sex were a thing? So you're going out of your way to read discussions between men that had trouble with those things in the past.. and blaming them for making yourself whine about them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/16 12:22 AM
7	Q4women: would it be ok for you if sexbots and virtual sex were a thing? leave the rest of us alone Can you elaborate on this? How are they "not leaving you alone?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/16 01:32 AM
1	Can women and women be friends? You realize that by saying that, you're generalizing as well, no? And if you want better content then you'll have to contribute as well. Your response to the comment above said nothing more than, "Wow, your argument sucks."	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/16 01:16 AM
1	TRP Proves that All Men Need Female Validation Why doesn't it 'feel good' to have sex with a hooker? This is news to me.. I'd certainly do it if I didn't fear getting arrested, and if I had more money, but some people might not like it because they have to wear a condom, and some people are repulsed by hookers because they might still smell of the last three guys she got filled by that day, and there's a fear of disease in an unregulated market. Maybe some guys like kissing during sex and they don't want to kiss a mouth that was around some …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/15 10:00 PM
2	TRP Proves that All Men Need Female Validation Only if you fail to acknowledge the fact that it's possible to want to have sex for reasons other than "validation." Did you know it feels good too? Or maybe I'm getting it confused with something else; perhaps you should contact the mods of /r/sex and recommend they change the name to /r/validation instead. Subreddits typically focus on one thing. Try posting a thread in /r/fitness saying, "Your obsession with health is obviously indicative of seeking validation from others." Do you mean to imp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/15 03:10 AM
1	CMV: Slut Shaming Doesn't Exist, and Future Can Be Judged From the Past But you would equally think, "Wow, all those cads and chads wanted her, yet she's with ME now So yeah, if a woman like that picked me, I'd feel pretty special Yet if she had been more selective about who she let inside her in the first place, wouldn't that mean she saw you as more "special?" In other words, she had higher standards for relationships and sex and you met them, making you a more valuable partner to her. Having sex with a girl doesn't register "rejection" to me. Admittedly, I'm not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/15 10:31 PM
61	I watched five minutes of "Trainwreck" so you don't have to. Everything looks like shit when you can see how blatantly it's marketed. How often do you view an advertisement as a "work of art?" They portray a slut as "strong and independentTM" to reassure promiscuous women that guys looking for relationships won't care about their pasts since, you know, they don't exist after they occur (but more importantly, because they'll pay to hear that). Women are the only ones who react negatively to being called sluts because not even a film like this can truly con…	/r/TheRedPill	01/08/15 09:40 PM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? actually the issue with your argument is that you don't provide any actual evidence. Exactly, short of identifying/acknowledging potential bias, it's essentially no more than a subjective and irrelevant way to opt out of an otherwise rational argument when reason cannot justify the way you emotionally respond to the other person's rhetoric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/15 04:12 AM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? i think you are just repeating what you think and don't even know why you think that. My point is that people use the "sexism argument" as a way of dodging other questions. Again, TRP is concerned with results, not feelings. It's like, "This worked for me." "But you're a jerk." "I don't care, it worked." how can anyone be consistently right? "TRP is a completely fail-proof sexual strategy with a 100% success rate, guaranteed to work for any man implementing it on any woman." ha, you can but the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/15 03:43 AM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? ha, you understand you can only speak to what you care about with any certainty? What exactly do you mean? You can keep calling me misogynistic if you like, I'm getting flattered. do you acknowledge that many people posting their are expressing or driven by negative emotions? Some of them are obviously pissed off, but you're the one saying they all hate women, and you're the one who chooses to dismiss their claims because of that. he's just a less reliable source in anything he says because he h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 11:08 PM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? you can't seem to process that i am asking you about the emotional tone of the posters on /r/theredpill Again, I'm not concerned about their emotions (rather, your emotional interpretation of their words), I'm concerned about the validity of their claims. You are claiming their arguments are based on emotion, based on the content, yes, but what you don't understand is that you're not done arguing just because it hurts your feelings. anyone comfortable with that atmosphere is also misogynist Than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 09:31 PM
2	Debate: Anything a man can do, a woman can do just as well. You've tried?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 08:34 PM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? What do you mean by "more emotional?" Most redditors seem very emotional in general, so I can understand why some of their emotions may prevent them from evaluating the content rationally, but like I said, I don't care. I'm capable of identifying the fact that you don't like TRP because of the way you respond to it emotionally, but again, I don't care about how it makes you feel, I care about whether the logic stands. And even if TRP's logic is driven by emotion, that doesn't immediately discred…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 08:28 PM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? I can't speak for TRP on an individual basis. It doesn't elicit an emotional response from me because I judge it through a rational lens, and frankly, do not care how it makes others feel (whether they agree or disagree with it). If you read something in an "angry, hateful tone" and assume it's written and read with emotions similar to yours, that's your claim, based on your emotions. What I'm saying is to evaluate the claims themselves, without letting emotion deter rational analysis. It's fine…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 07:49 PM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? I'm not speaking on behalf of all of TRP, but regardless, you're coming to these conclusions as a result of your emotional reactions to their rhetoric. In other words, you claim they all feel a certain way based on how you feel when you read a post on TRP. After using your feelings to assume those of others, you disregard everything they say because "they cannot be rational if they have this negativity towards women." As an extension of that logic, you cannot be rational with all this emotional …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 06:24 PM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? it suggests red pillers are incapable of rational debate if they are misogynists it just means it has to be considered. Then feel free consider it yourself, but don't use it as your actual argument like I see so often here, because it has no value in rational debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 12:50 PM
1	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? So people of TRP aren't actually trying to have sex, they're only "emotionally manipulating" women out of spite? You imply that no man can convince a woman into having sex without "hating" her, and as if that's his primary motivation; you also imply that anything a man says about women is wrong if he dislikes them. You continue to prove Sir Nigga's point by saying, "All of TRP is wrong because I feel like all of them hate all women." Your argument is entirely emotional because you're not proving…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 12:37 PM
2	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? they are misogynists. i guess that connotes other things too like being biased by their misogyny. their perspective is biased. Does this mean everything they say should be disregarded because you feel all of them hate all women? I understand that you want to tell the entirety of TRP that they're misogynistic (hint—nobody will care), but on PPD, we discuss numerous topics pertaining to TRP, and emotionally charged cries of sexism have no place in a logical argument. This particular thread acknowl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 03:42 AM
2	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? Very mature, Rondell	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/15 01:22 AM
0	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? red pillers are misogynists is a logical argument In proving what? Every aspect of TRP is wrong because you think they're misogynistic? Even if everyone there hated women, that fact alone wouldn't dismiss everything they say as incorrect. Pulling the sexism/misogyny card is an emotional response to arguments—it doesn't address the argument's logic itself, but rather how it makes you feel, which nobody cares about. red pillers reaction to that argument tends to be illogical, i.e. "just because we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/15 11:17 PM
7	BP'ers, how do we know that most of your dislike of TRP isn't just some irrational emotional reaction? And the same applies to you, but Sir Nigga's point is that nobody can change your mind with logic if your conclusions are built upon emotion. For example, This makes them come off as misogynists. Relying on sexism or misogyny as a fallback is an emotional response to an argument that can otherwise not be won with logic. They always seem to focus on the negative aspects of female nature Which, as he said, makes you feel bad. Aside from the fact that this implies they're correct, what would you sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/15 06:02 PM
0	How would you defend your pill in one sentence? You can combine them, otherwise it's disqualified	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/15 12:20 AM
3	How would you defend your pill in one sentence? In achieving what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/15 11:40 PM
3	Is Bluepill/Feminist Dating Advice the same thing as "Nice Guy (TM)," only in a more insidious way? The difference sits between "expecting sex for being nice" and "being nice and simultaneously wanting sex." In my experience, women tend to assume the former of nice men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/15 04:53 AM
7	Is Bluepill/Feminist Dating Advice the same thing as "Nice Guy (TM)," only in a more insidious way? What's wrong with being nice for sex that isn't wrong with being nice for other things?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/15 12:21 AM
7	What turns women on? Does this include reading TRP? Yes, the majority of TRP doesn't advocate any forms of reading. Books, articles, street signs, blogs, nutrition labels, emails—it's all trash. Do you think "reading" always means fiction? Yes, nothing can be trusted. How do you think academics work? Or learning? Also for gay people. Not that I have anything against them, but they're gay. How the fuck could you avoid reading if you want to succeed at something? Just like I avoided reading your comment. If you're rea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/15 12:09 AM
5	Apparently I do not exist, and neither do the vast majority of women I know. That's weird. I can only address the data I have experienced first-hand Likewise, and my experience with women as a man in his early twenties is the complete opposite of what you've described (but perhaps I've only associated with toxic women). I think the older age at which people marry nowadays is worth acknowledging. More time for.. as they get to know what they like and need over the course of time You can call it that, but any woman who rejects a kind, respectful man for someone who treats her poorly has…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/15 10:49 PM
11	Apparently I do not exist, and neither do the vast majority of women I know. That's weird. We can agree that TRP makes generalizations about women, but are you not doing the same? Are you willing to speak on behalf of all women because your preferences don't align with TRP? To be fair this might just be me and the women I have become friends with over the years It's necessary to acknowledge this since experience plays such a large role in perception. Mind if I ask how old you (or the women you associate with) are? Keep in mind that TRP often focuses on younger women, and I imagine a m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/15 09:51 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? i've seen small court judges order the woman to give the ring back. But why should she? He GAVE it to her. Who cares what her intentions were, right? Agreed. Stupidity shouldn't serve as an excuse for someone's actions, nor the consequences thereof (obviously disregarding the mentally handicapped). What if a woman got married with the intention of filing for divorce later? The man shouldn't have gotten married if he didn't want to accept that potential risk. It's very unfortunate, but it's also …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 04:00 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? And the woman in your scenario consented to the actions leading up to a relationship, but not sex without a relationship. But she consented to the sex. not raped. Therefore, consensual sex. It would have been non-consensual if she'd known his true intentions. Sex, which they both intended on having. Are you saying that it should be illegal to have sex without committing to someone who wants sex and a relationship? How would you define a relationship in this case? Would it be wrong for the person…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 10:26 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? You're focusing on the result again. I'm focusing on the result because the woman in this scenario is actively instigating it. I realize there's a difference on my end (by being the "emotional sociopath" rather than the "natural asshole"), but I'm asking what difference that makes when she ultimately gets the same thing that she actively sought out and provoked. I'm asking what difference is made when "her feelings" are what makes the other person's action wrong, yet "her feelings" remain the sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:50 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? I didn't say that awareness excuses actions, but when you said I find it odd that you think there's a difference in "being" that type of person versus "acting" like that type of person. I replied I can see a difference between "acting" and "being" to the actor, but not necessarily their audience. I acknowledge the fact that it still affects the audience, and I wanted to see how much of a difference you saw. You said they were the "worst, most despicable kind of human beings." Hypothetically, wha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 06:36 AM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? That's why I find it odd that you think there's a difference in "being" that type of person versus "acting" like that type of person. I think it depends on the perspective. The "actor" is aware that they're acting differently than they "are," but as suggested earlier, you're still "being" that way (to the girl, who may or may not notice). So I can see a difference between "acting" and "being" to the actor, but not necessarily their audience. I don't really understand what you mean when talking a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 12:54 AM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? For one thing, I don't think drunk girls at bars are exemplary of women as a whole. Yes, agreed. So your argument would essentially be, "While people are responsible for their actions, some women (namely, drunk girls at bars) cannot decline sexual advances of men who wear people down and make them feel insecure and bad about themselves, so men are responsible for avoiding the emulation of whatever traits some women tend to reward with sex because it's inherently wrong to act that way in exchange…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 10:10 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? Why? Are you asking me why theft is wrong? You could say he consented to being robbed by taking a stranger home. He consented to taking a stranger home, not to the robbery. He consented to the actions leading up to the robbery, not the actual robbery. If he saw her stealing, I doubt he wouldn't have tried to stop her. You could say that in your scenario, the woman was robbed. Not my scenario, but what is she being robbed of? She was consenting to a relationship, not specifically sex. If the sex …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 09:28 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? Fair enough, but we then appear to assume that women are incapable of actively declining men who wear people down and make them feel bad about themselves and insecure as if they have no choice, so the responsibility is placed entirely on one party for manipulating rather than the other for getting manipulated (better yet, making a rational decision that this is the type of person they'd like to reward the actions of with sex). In other words, to say it's wrong, must we assume that because women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 08:19 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? she runs away with all the money in his wallet Although it was used as a means of doing something wrong, I don't think manipulation is inherently wrong—theft is. There's nothing wrong with wanting money; there wasn't anything wrong with her manipulating him into taking her home, but I think we can agree that her intention to steal was wrong. For example, guns aren't inherently bad as they can be used for hobbies and protection, but they can also be used to do bad things. You didn't outline the a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 07:44 PM
2	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? So then what Hitler did was okay. Yeah, exactly, but there's a difference between sex and genocide. In other words, were Hitler's actions wrong because manipulation is bad, or genocide? There's a difference between a car salesperson manipulating me to pay more—just like I'm responsible to convince him to drop the price—and then telling you to murdering someone, and you actually doing it. [edit] If manipulation can be used for good, then I don't see how it's inherently bad. I'm asking why it's ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 03:40 AM