givoly Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Seduction/promiscuity and the risk of STDs - What's your opinion? That's not necessarily true. If that were the case then everyone would have it. There aren't transmission rates on HSV1. Though you're right the only way he'd know is to get tested.	/r/seduction	27/09/15 05:23 PM
1	Where is this behavior actually going on? Nobody uses dental dams for kissing and that's the way most people get herpes. I suppose you can advocate for no kissing until people are tested but in my experience it's not a very popular suggestion. And yes, way more than 20% of people in the US have herpes. About 54% have HSV1 and 16% have HSV2 (about 10% have both so the total 14 to 49 is about 60%). By age 40, about 70-75% have herpes. This is from the CDC's NHANES data: http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/10/14/infdis.jit458.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 03:11 PM
1	Where is this behavior actually going on? Yep. Basically what I implied when I say only fuck kiss people you know. FTFY. Herpes is most frequently transmitted orally (i.e. kissing and oral sex).	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 09:19 PM
1	Where is this behavior actually going on? Can you cite that herpes damages brain functioning? Also, the most common way herpes is transmitted is orally so a condom doesn't help. By age 40, about 70-75% of the US has herpes and 70-90% don't know it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 09:18 PM
2	Male promiscuity is undesirable I didn't dispute that. I'm expanding on the risk women face by having sex with a man with a higher partner count. It would be one thing if male-to-female risk was the same as female-to-male risk, but it's not. Men are more likely to infect women than vice versa. So a male having a higher partner count poses much greater risk to a woman for two reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/15 08:34 AM
1	Male promiscuity is undesirable There is a 40% genital herpes infection rate for people with over 50 partners. Edit: since someone downvoted me here is a link to the study. It's in Table 1. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=203222	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/15 05:48 AM
8	Male promiscuity is undesirable Men with large partner counts, probabilistically speaking, will have higher chances of having an STD. Women are more likely to get an STI from a man as well. The transmission rate of herpes is 10% male to female but only 4% female to male. So women have a higher risk of getting it than men do. Also, the CDC states that 87.4% of people with HSV2 have never been diagnosed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/15 10:35 PM
2	Std Yes, I'm aware of what people say on the internet - I just haven't found a study to back it up. I've actually emailed UMM about some of their claims before and they won't respond.	/r/seduction	30/06/15 06:01 PM
2	Std It's the percentage of people with HSV1 age 14 to 49. The 40 to 49 age group is about 65%. If you have a scientific study that examines an age group later than that I would like to see it.	/r/seduction	30/06/15 05:27 PM
2	Std You are more likely to get herpes from kissing than from sex. In the US about 54% have HSV1, usually associated with oral herpes, and about 16% have HSV2, usually associated with genital herpes. Both viruses can infect either the mouth or genitals (30-50% of new genital herpes infections are caused by oral sex, and in one study 78% of genital herpes cases were caused by oral sex in college students). Herpes is not included in a full STI screening so 80% with herpes don't know they have it. Condo…	/r/seduction	30/06/15 02:00 PM
2	What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti] but how do you know that's how the CDC runs these studies? I've never been approached to be randomly tested for them. Is this common knowledge? I had no idea. I've read the studies. There are 320 million people in the US and they only test about a few thousand each year. Men and women are both susceptible to herpes. Women are just made differently so it makes some viruses easier to transmit. Since 80% of people with HSV don't know they have it if anyone is concerned about STIs, then they should …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/15 11:11 PM
1	What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti] The data is from the CDC. They take a random sample of people every year and test them for all kinds of things. The percentages are accurate (unless you want to argue that the false negative rate underestimates the prevalence, but it would do so for both genders so it wouldn't affect the relative difference). Here's the study from 2004...it's isn't much different from 2013... http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=203222	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/15 10:35 PM
1	What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti] About 20% of women are infected with HSV2 whereas 11% of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/15 10:28 PM
1	Do all RP men have herpes? I see you're in college. You should know that the college age demographic has the highest rate of genital HSV1 (from oral sex).	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 01:22 AM
1	Do all RP men have herpes? Um, even virgins have herpes. It's not just sexually transmitted. You might want to get educated on herpes (and get tested).	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 01:12 AM
1	Do all RP men have herpes? 80% of people with herpes don't know it because they don't have symptoms or their symptoms are mistaken for something else. And you can still transmit the virus without symptoms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 01:08 AM
6	Do all RP men have herpes? Most people have herpes - it's not just limited to people who have sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 12:42 AM
1	CC rider from two X is sad because she got herpes and can't ride the CC fully anymore Look, I don't know. I'm asking questions but it seems that people like to down vote people that ask questions (do you realize the irony of me quoting the handbook and having people down vote that?) All I know is what I read. So when I read this: Game is an important portion of a sexual strategy. A lot of you probably came here from r/seduction and are probably wondering why we'd need a new subreddit if one dedicated to game already exists. I interpret that to mean that game/strategy/seduction ar…	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/15 01:36 PM
-3	CC rider from two X is sad because she got herpes and can't ride the CC fully anymore I've seen replies like yours before - they really don't make sense to me. Who would knowingly date someone with HSV-2 anywhere on their body? Who would knowingly date someone with HSV1 anywhere on their body? At least if HSV1 is on your genitals you have a lot less likelihood of getting it - certainly less risk than kissing someone with HSV1 orally. She chose to sleep with someone who had herpes, Did she? There's a four month window where you can have it and not test positive. So if you wanted t…	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/15 09:12 AM
-5	CC rider from two X is sad because she got herpes and can't ride the CC fully anymore Hmm, apparently you can't link to TRP's introduction page, Mr TRP bot says he removed it. This is what I said... Really? I've read the Introduction and there isn't anything in there about improving myself. It talks about mastering games, sexual strategy, etc. Even TRP handbooks says this: What is The Red Pill? A loose and highly debated collection of frameworks that describe sexual dynamics between men and women.	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/15 07:21 AM
-2	CC rider from two X is sad because she got herpes and can't ride the CC fully anymore They both still cause the same symptoms (blisters/lesions). And oral herpes can cause genital herpes through oral sex. How many people get oral with condoms?	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/15 07:18 AM
0	CC rider from two X is sad because she got herpes and can't ride the CC fully anymore I don't think most people understand the risks - especially with herpes. Everyone always down votes me when I tell them most people have herpes (~60-65%) and most people don't know it (~80%). I think people prefer to live in ignorance.	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/15 07:11 AM
-9	CC rider from two X is sad because she got herpes and can't ride the CC fully anymore Ah, that makes sense. So what happens when an alpha gets herpes (and does it make a difference whether it's cold sores or genital herpes)?	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/15 06:58 AM
1	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again aren't usually contagious while the symptoms are in abeyance. Oral HSV1 sheds (is contagious), on average, about 9%-18% of the time (which is what most people have and is the cause of 30% to 50% of new genital herpes cases). Genital HSV1 sheds, on average, about 3-5% of the time (which is what it sounds like the OP's ex-friend has). http://herpesopportunity.com/downloads/herpes-opportunity-disclosure-handout.pdf I tend to just assume that all of us here who have chosen a life of promiscuity have…	/r/TheRedPill	08/05/15 04:37 PM
2	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again I'm a real person! And I'm a guy! And I cite statistics! I'm serious though - if something I've said is wrong let me know. As you can see I do recite the same stats over and over again, so I'd hate to be wrong. I'm okay with you calling me a weird Jehovah's Witness for herpes. Except I only show up on posts that talk about herpes, HSV, cold sores, etc instead of at your door on Saturday morning when you are trying to sleep in after a long night out.	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 10:22 PM
1	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again You can't just add 15% to 55% and get 70%. That is not how things work man. That's not what I did. But please tell me what I did wrong. I only try to educate. Yes, I got oral herpes from kissing someone who didn't have an outbreak (and if kissing someone is a stupid decision, it seems all the more reason to post here). My goal is not to fear monger - it's to educate. If I've said something that isn't correct, then please correct me. But don't throw around emotionally charged words - dispute the …	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 09:46 PM
2	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again This is from The Red Pill introduction page: "Acknowledging Reality Finally, I think our focus should always remain on ensuring that we challenge the reality we perceive and discuss precisely and objectively whether or not our beliefs line up with the testable results we can replicate. I am a firm believer that potential success can only be maximized by maximizing your knowledge of the factors surrounding your success. Keeping your eyes closed and ignoring evidence and facts will not benefit you…	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 09:14 PM
2	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again The stats are accurate. You can either believe them or not. The 15.5% number is for HSV2, not both HSV1 and HSV2 - together almost 70% of the US population between 14 and 49 have herpes. 30%-50% of new genital herpes cases are from HSV1. HSV is spread because people don't understand (or dismiss as fear mongering) how prevalent it is, that it's not tested for, that it can be transmitted without symptoms, that many people don't have symptoms or are so mild that they don't recognize them. Again, ca…	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 09:08 PM
2	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again I've cited all my statistics above - they are accurate. You can choose to believe the data or not. I only provide the opportunity to choose.	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 08:22 PM
2	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again Your comment presumes that having sex with someone means an automatic infection. Furthermore, if his goal is to have sex without getting herpes (i.e. dodging bullets), then it should be made clear that he's more likely to get it from someone who doesn't know they have it (and obviously can't tell him), than from someone who does. I don't really care what decision he makes, he should just make his decisions based on complete information.	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 08:19 PM
3	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again This article might help too: Why You Should Assume Everyone Has Herpes http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2011/04/latest-genital-herpes "But here’s the kicker: When they’re shedding, people who’ve never had symptoms shed roughly the same amount of virus as people who’ve had symptoms. So it’s clearer than ever that lack of symptoms is no guarantee against infection. And in fact, Dr. Wald said, “Asymptomatic shedding may be the central phenomenon of transmission.” It goes on to say... "And that doesn’t …	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 03:25 PM
3	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again I think you've been quite mislead. About 65% of the US population has HSV1. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK47447/ About 55% age 14 to 49 of the US population has HSV1. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=203222 About 17% age 14 to 49 of the US population has HSV2. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=203222 About 10% have both. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=203222 58% + 17% - 7.5% = 67.5% of age 14 to 49 in the US have herpes. By age 50, 26…	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 03:08 PM
2	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again And what about the rest of the people that have herpes and don't tell you? 80% of people with it don't know they have it. How do you figure out which ones those are??	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 12:44 PM
1	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again Probably after two years her body will have beaten it You probably need to educate yourself on herpes. The body doesn't beat it. Further, 70% of the US population has and 80% don't know it. It can be transmitted with or without symptoms.	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 12:43 PM
-2	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again Just remember that about 70% of the US population has herpes and 80% don't know it.	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 12:42 PM
5	My wedding date went from zero to I never want to talk to you again Legally, she may not have been required to tell him. Only 30% of states of laws that might include herpes.	/r/TheRedPill	07/05/15 12:41 PM
1	STD's. Thoughts? Huh? It's two days old because you took so long to respond. My point is that you shouldn't accuse others of spreading false information if you're just going to spread more false information.	/r/seduction	22/04/15 02:17 AM
1	STD's. Thoughts? My point is that he should probably be more worried about the ones who don't know they have it, if he is that worried about the one girl he knows has it. Basically the original dilemma pales in comparison to the actual risks he isn't talking about.	/r/seduction	20/04/15 03:43 AM
1	STD's. Thoughts? and go get another girl that he does not know has herpes. Just to reiterate, 80% of those with HSV2 don't know they have it. People seem to be very concerned about the 1 person that knows it and is doing something about it than the 4x more people that have it but don't know it.	/r/seduction	20/04/15 03:13 AM
1	STD's. Thoughts? There is no 100% protection against herpes other than 100% avoiding contact with somebody who has it, Since you are concerned about spreading false information... The only way to 100% protect yourself from herpes is not to kiss or have sex (oral, PIV, anal) with anyone until you have an STI test that includes HSV at least 4 months from their last partner. 80% of those with HSV2 don't know they have it and 55-70% have HSV1 and probably aren't going to say anything before you kiss them since most …	/r/seduction	20/04/15 03:07 AM
4	STD's. Thoughts? You do realize that more people have herpes than not, right?	/r/seduction	19/04/15 02:30 PM