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Purge Week!gladusgates/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:32 AM
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Women are not moral fuckers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:36 PM
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These are the options if you listen to women’s shaming tactics. Other than that, plenty of sub-25 year olds to get with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:08 AM
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This makes sense. All-in-all, it makes them insecure because they actually have to "compete" (which women hate doing consciously but love unconsciously), and they lose some leverage as men can get a sexual release without them. They then can't leverage for dates, for you to take out the trash, simp for them and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:56 AM
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Men in relationships watch porn and women tend to not like them watching porn. Again, it’s clearly a control-tactic. Also known as Pussy Cartel. Protecting the power of pussy as a commodity by any means necessary. I understand it, if pussy became too accessible to men whether at a slight cost or visually for free, women lose out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:40 AM
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That’s not the real reason. It’s pussy cartel economics. They don’t want men to have any easy access to sexual gratification. Same reason they’re against prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:27 AM
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Yep. It’s pussy cartel theory. Deep down, women know that sex is the ONLY power they have over men. So they need to regulate it. It’s probably instinctual to some extent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:05 PM
6

Have you ever dated women as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 11:57 AM
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Why is this your default assumption? Younger women are easier to get along with and are hotter. Sorry, but that's simply the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:52 AM
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They definitely don't think highly of themselves, but they still think of themselves more highly than average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:08 AM
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They narrow them down by looks/height/status. Then and only then will personality come into it. The personality and game element is highly important, but only once she is sufficiently satisfied by the aforementioned 3 qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:47 PM
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Solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:11 PM
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Don't get mad at me please. I'm genuinely just explaining to you what the case really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 03:02 PM
-3

High value men exercise their options. The sooner women realise this, the better it will be for them. Expecting a man to be completely sexually loyal is a fools game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:28 PM
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Sounds like TRP saved another soul. Good luck in your marriage and don’t let women (natural manipulators) convince you otherwise!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:02 PM
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Most men have no idea what genuine burning desire from a woman actually looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:02 PM
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You're not totally off the mark, mental illness is rife among the female population these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:48 AM
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I disagree, most women do still want to settle down and have kids. Don't fall for the booby trap, the women who say they don't want that 8/10 times have simply run out of time and need to rationalise it lest they are driven completely insane by the realisation that they will never have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:32 AM
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No, they don't date most men because most men aren't what they prefer and that's down to hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:41 AM
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These days people identify as whatever they feel like, so I identify as blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:59 PM
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I'm not complaining. I'm saying it how it is. I'm not an inc3l. I understand it's a dog-eat-dog world and that's why I took the red pill. Acknowledging female nature isn't based in hatred for us, it's based in acceptance. I know how high female standards are that's why I level up to match them as best as I can. And when I have a decent rotation of women going, I have sex with them and don't commit. As that's my way of exercising my own sexual strategy. Dog-eat-dog world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:22 PM
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Well if they're not damaged, they're still less desirable than a woman without any trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:11 PM
0

"Built-in patient bias" sounds like a buzzword you made up because you're uncomfortable. Everyone has biases, in his case, his biases are rooted in reality. It's about caloric deficit and caloric surplus. Just because you've sipped the body positivity koolaid doesn't mean we all have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:02 PM
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I would argue the egos are a by product of their hypergamy. The thought process is, women all feel like they deserve a male who they perceive to be better than them (mostly objective, but there's some subjectivity in it depending on the female's preference), because of this entitlement to a high value male, they consider all other males below this threshold to be inadequate. If all they get is attention from males they consider "not good enough", they gain an inflated ego and sense of self, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:59 AM
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I'm here to agree. I'm also here to say that you should have sex with all the 18 your olds you want and not give a shit about what women have to say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:07 AM
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Women are picky because of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:22 AM
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Is this really a debate? Yes they fucking are. Younger women are competition for them a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:41 AM
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You must believe everything women tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:40 AM
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Women aren't getting married because of their own hypergamous standards. It's really that simple, they are dating, dating and dating more, and are simply never satisfied. Of course, the vast majority of them will end up being miserable because of this. Women are a rule WANT to get married. If they haven't been married, it's more than likely because they refuse to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:40 AM
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Why are you speaking about him in past tense? His great message is still spreading. The next generation of men coming up are not going to align with feminist garbage thanks to people like Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:34 AM
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Not to mention women tend to study more useless degrees. Pseudo-intellectuals, studying shit like gender studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:30 AM
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I identify as Blue Pill. This should be fine, as nowadays, people can identify as whatever they feel like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:04 PM
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There are some quantifiable qualities. Status (do a lot of people (numerical) respect him, is he in a position in society that very few people hold), Money (numerical, does he have a lot of earning potential, does he have a nice house, does he have a nice car), Looks (more subjective than the others, but there's some objectivity to it, how closely does this man align with societal beauty standards), Height (numerical). Things are not as subjective as you are trying to make them seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:33 PM
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Quantity what? If the woman does not think you are better than her, she either will not date you, or will date you and not respect you. If the man does not think you are better than him, he will still date you and he is still very much capable of loving you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:27 PM
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Men don't have a problem with dating down. Most of the time they have to anyway. Men are very much capable of loving a woman lesser in overall value than they are, women are not, that is the fundamental difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:24 PM
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Men date up, down, left, right. Women only date up. And if they can't date up, they either don't date at all, or don't respect the man they are dating. It's really quite simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:15 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/@wholelottaleg/video/7141143585818381614 Whatever you do, never let women gaslight you that height doesn't matter, status doesn't matter, or that hypergamy is a made up idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:14 PM
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Yes, there are a lot of lovely women out there. Perhaps not in the west, but they are out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:57 PM
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I'm trans-blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:10 PM
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There is no winning debates against women with regards to sexual dynamics. They will rarely if ever concede even when they know they are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:03 AM
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You have to love women or you do not deserve to have sex with them, don't you understand? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:11 PM
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I see zero issues with what he is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:10 PM
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I treat every woman I date very well. I am absolutely sexist. A benevolent sexist actually, I hold open doors, I pay for dates, I plan dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:24 AM
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No, just to be as pleasant as non-western women would be good enough. And not conditionally feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:33 AM
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They are conditionally submissive/feminine but will not tolerate a man being conditionally dominant/masculine. This really only applies to women in the west however.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:32 AM
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I don’t see what Tate did that is so dangerous. I’ve seen the clips, I’ve seen his defence, I’m not seeing it. His delivery is a lot more harsh than others. But you’d have to tell me what came across as especially dangerous to you. By the way, the Tate beating up a woman stuff is confirmed BDSM by the woman herself. That’s the issue, nobody wants to hear the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:32 PM
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My dating success improved exponentially when I adopted a RP mindset. At the same time, it has also made me jaded on women as AWALT. But yes, it helps for both. Exuding a dominant, masculine aura is attractive to women. Taking the lead is attractive to women. Being unapologetic is attractive to women. Being non-agreeable is attractive to women. All of this stuff works. I've focused on the gym, I've been driven to earn more money, and in general my life has improved a lot. I respect any man teach…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:31 AM
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We have data which shows men overwhelmingly prefer younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:17 AM
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If a man can date women younger, good on him. It's what most men want to do, not all men can date much younger, but for the ones who can, enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:21 PM
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Women are very pragmatic about dating. Men need to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:28 PM
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I hold the same perspective, although I'll bang them, commitment is never on the table. I draw the line at 28 years old actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:58 AM
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She couldn't describe what she brings to the table when asked and said it's misogynist to try and sell herself/describe why she's worth a guy with her standards. A woman said roughly the same thing to me and I rewarded her by blocking her. Any time a woman goes on any sort of feminist rant to a simple question it's a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:16 AM
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Own it, it's all you can do. This isn't something that's in your control. Is it an SMV hit? Yes, but now you have to make up for it in other ways. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:01 AM
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Yeah I agree with this. I think all-in-all, it is probably an SMV hit. But, the extent of this hit is very dependent on a few factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:58 AM
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You can't assess his spinelessness or lack thereof in a vacuum. Compared to most men, he is indeed spineless, as most men would not defer to their woman to make 90% of the decisions in any relationship. To each their own, but this dynamic intrigues me. You're obviously wired different, either that, or you've been socialised differently than most women. How likely is a man like this to protect you in times of peril? With authority (you make most of the decisions) comes responsibility. I do wonder…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:32 AM
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What do I think of it? It's obviously shitty, but men require consistent sex in a relationship. A woman who is unable to provide that is under some level of risk. Same thing goes for a man who is financially inadequate, he is also under risk of divorce. Again, it's shitty, but I am not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:31 AM
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Let's say I take your word for it. Are you suggesting that you respect submissive men who bow to your every demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:28 AM
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Yes, and this is about as true as fat women saying they don't want a man who is muscular because they love laying in bed with a man who is "soft and cuddly". The word I used was copium. It is cope. Your options are submissive men, so that's what you've convinced yourself that you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:20 AM
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Definitely not... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:09 AM
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You didn't address anything. It's copium. It's not that you don't want a dominant man, it's that they will not put up with you. More dominant women go for men who are more submissive because those are the men that will actually put up with them. They don't actually respect those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:07 AM
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Depends really. Facial structure, head-shape, how good your body is etc. all factor into the equation. I would say race plays a part too. If you’re darker skinned, you are more likely to get away with balding (less of an SMV hit).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:27 AM
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No. The issue is, they struggle to get a dominant man on their level from a societal/economic standpoint. So they HAVE to settle for a beta equivalent who satisfies the financial aspect of the equation for them. The alphas do not want “dominant” (read as: annoying and boss babe) FEMALES. It’s copium, dominant women want men even more dominant than they are, with the same earning potential, but these men are not looking for this kind of females.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:08 AM
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The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:25 PM
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There are statistics out there somewhere. It has not happened to me (to my knowledge), but there's really no way to tell if that was her primary intention unless women admit it. I'd look for an anonymous survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:44 AM
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You're not owed anything. And even if I promised you a relationship, I am allowed to withdraw consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:12 PM
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I don't need a lecture on what the official definition if it is. I'm using the RP definition of the word, call it what you want to call it, call it supergamy if you want. You know exactly what I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:08 AM
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An average man can be quantified to a certain extent. Average salary for the city they live in, average height for men in the country, average age for a first home owner and so on. Do women have sight of this? I don’t think most people do. What women will define as average is the bare minimum for a man that they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:33 AM
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The term "pumping and dumping" implies that women are "owed" something. I thought that nobody was entitled to anything? If you have sex with a woman, you have no obligation to call her back. None.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:41 AM
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I am allowed to identify as what I wish. Everyone these days does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:38 AM
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Advice: just get professional photos taken, with someone who can give you direction. Just a one off deal. Then you won’t have to worry about it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:53 AM
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Yep. Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:50 AM
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Women who are 30+ have higher standards with regards to provider traits, which allows men who aren't the best looking to have more of an opportunity with them. But yes, their standards are still high, hypergamy doesn't just go away, it's a feature not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:57 AM
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I don't think is news, but it's social media and overinflated female standards. Women have easier access now to men far above their own level with regards to casual sex, more than ever before. And it's not about to slow down, it's going to get worse as meeting people online has become the norm. Getting attention online, and especially on dating apps is due to how you look. If a guy isn't of a particular standard, women won't respond to his messages, on the other hand, they will more than happily…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:36 AM
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Adversity builds men but it destroys women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 03:08 PM
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Women prove it with their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:36 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:45 PM
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Tate isn't for the female audience. His content is geared towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:32 PM
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Women pedestalize men/masculinity and believe men to be superior to them. Not only that but women are inherently homophobic. For exmaple, you may have seen women online say some variation of “you’re a man why are in a woman’s business” then not too long after they will proceed to involve themselves in a man’s business. It’s always some form of “you’re a man, you should know better”. https://twitter.com/wavyemma/status/1554636188572532736 If you reject a woman, or dare to rally other men to “recl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:31 AM
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We don't care at all. If nothing else, this further highlights how easy women are to offend in comparison to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:22 PM
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Precisely. Men are meritocracy-based. If we don't feel like you deserve it we will not respect you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:21 PM
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No, but they virtue signal like they do. They imply that the reason ugly men get worse treatment is because they deserve it for pretending to be nice guys, or, because they have a bad attitude and don't respect women. Or anything along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:33 AM
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Women do not owe men intimacy and men do not owe women friendship/companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:32 AM
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There is. It's called Tinder Platinum. Bumps you to the top of the stack.
/r/seduction05/08/22 09:27 AM
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Confirmed for female.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:30 PM
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Small correction: they don't care how they come across as long as their hypergamous instincts are satisfied. Hypergamy doesn't care about feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:47 PM
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It's eye opening whenever they say stuff like this. It's like they don't realise how they come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:29 PM
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This question comes up every so often. There are exceptions to every rule, for some women, they will not lose attraction to a man for this. Some of the women commenting that they didn't lose attraction for their boyfriend / husband are not lying. However, these women are exceptions in my view. The rest of the women denying it are saving face and attempting to make themselves look more virtuous. There are biological differences between men and women. There are distinct differences between masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:25 PM
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A woman in the comments: "I'm 5'3 and divorced my ex who was 6'7. It worked great though as my boys are 16 and 6'1." It's quite insane how pragmatic women are about dating and securing the best genes. Never buy the bullshit they sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 11:13 AM
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Tricky one. She may see this as a lack of confidence on your part. Why didn't you ask her in person? That's probably what she'll think.
/r/seduction02/08/22 01:52 PM
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Essentially this. Obviously we don't have pictures of you, nor the men in your group. But based on what you've told us, she's attracted to the other guys because they have proven that they can achieve sexual success, you have not, therefore she is not interested in you, OP.
/r/seduction02/08/22 01:50 PM
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How can she not see it as a dominating act? It's completely unnatural and is literal role reversal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:54 PM
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They won't understand until they dig their own graves. I'm with the women on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:17 AM
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Pegging is an act of dominance. Now, I won't kink shame, but I would hope any man that allows their woman to peg them understands what problems this could cause down the road with regards to her respect for you. Never forget - attraction is not negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:16 AM
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Because he lives the lifestyle pretty much all of us men want to live. He's rich, has a lot of women, is a kickboxing star and lives in a mansion with a lot of cars. Oh, and he's red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:32 AM
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For casual, looks definitely matter more to women, I should have made the distinction here. What I said was about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:24 AM
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I would say men, because for most men, nothing will compensate for a woman who looks bad. She can't earn her way into being a beautiful woman, she can't status her way into being a beautiful woman... she either looks good or she doesn't. A guy can however earn more money or increase his status to get around his poor looks. In that sense, it matters more to men as men are not willing to trade-in a woman's good looks for anything else. That doesn't mean looks don't matter to women though, they do …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:14 AM
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They definitely are not low. If you want to know what the standards are for an average man, pay attention to how women treat or speak about height, that should give you a decent idea of what they consider average to be. Same for money, and the same for looks. Here's a hint, what they want is typically not very average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:10 AM
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Women hate bisexual men with a passion because it implies femininity and submissiveness. Which is more reason men should under no circumstances display any feminine behaviour around women as they have a biological aversion to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:40 AM
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Any more than 3 dates and she's absolutely wasting your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:36 AM
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Yeah, men are absolutely insecure about their height, but it's rooted in women's strong aversion towards short men. This is blame shifting, it doesn't begin with men, it begins with women and hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:35 AM
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Sure, some women can slip under the radar, typically only when they've been caught red-handed before. Usually you can tell how promiscuous she is by paying close attention to the things she says, how she views casual sex, how feminist she is, whether she's had many long term relationships and on the rare occasion you can fool her into telling on herself. I've done it before. I told her I was non-judgmental and guessed that she had slept with 8 people, and she jumped up in joy when I guessed it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:11 PM
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Women can learn what works for them by limiting their sexual partners as much as possible. Men need to experience a variety to completely understand female nature and to be at peace with it. Men need to see that AWALT and get rid of any one-itis, so that if they do eventually get married, they know what to do and what not to do. And they therefore do not risk becoming a statistic. You won't change my mind on this, promiscuous women are bad news. Promiscuous men know exactly what to do in order t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:47 PM
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Men should have way more sexual experience and should experience a variety of women to better understand how women think and operate and how their bodies work. Men have to "just get it", but to "just get it" or to give the illusion that you do, you need experience to draw on. A man who knows what he's doing is attractive to women, a man who is clueless in the sack will not get a call back. Furthermore, female nature is so complicated that if you don't gain this experience you could be setting yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:21 AM
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They're all chadsexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:57 PM
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There will be exceptions to every rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:07 AM
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This is just my opinion of course. I hope your trauma isn't too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:51 AM
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Nothing is arbitrary about it. It is binary. Do you know what binary means? What men want = idiotic What women want = smart!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:53 AM
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That’s life. Double standards exist, on both sides. Male virgins are seen as less valuable, female virgins are seen as more valuable. Men are judged harshly on their height, women are not. I’m sure you understand this very well, kiddo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:49 AM
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That’s nice but back to reality - the majority of women do not care for male virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:46 AM
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Rather, it is I who will not put up with their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:19 AM
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The good news is such a woman is still more valuable than a woman who has had sex once. But she’s below the women who can PROVE their innocence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:18 AM
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A woman with her hymen still in tact. If it was broken by anything other than sex, she is not a virgin. She still has more value than a woman who has had sex, but she has less value than the woman with her hymen still in tact. And no, virginity is not a social construct, that's just a lie sluttier women made up to try to keep parity in value with the virgin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:41 AM
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Women do not get to decide what should be the important selectors when it comes to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:25 AM
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They aren't. I'm 30 and date women 18-21 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:08 PM
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They like experienced men so they expect us to like experienced women, but we straight up don't want them. Generally speaking, what men and women want are usually opposite to one another, if they apply that logic, it may help a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:37 AM
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Guess what? Getting with an inexperienced woman decreases the risk you encounter a woman who has shared a lot "firsts" with another man, it decreases the risk you encounter a woman with baggage and so on. Why should men bother with experienced women, when we have an alternative which is far more likely to be better? And even if we want a woman impressed by the bare minimum, how is that a bad thing? That means less effort for us for more return. Even more reason to avoid "experienced" (read as: s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:33 AM
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There is little attractive about an "experienced" woman for long-term. Experienced means she's slept around a lot, and that isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:27 AM
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It's stupid if that's not what they want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:05 PM
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Being a high value woman is nothing you can control, it's not something you can obtain with time. Time is your enemy as a woman because we men perceive a high value woman to be a woman who is youthful and attractive. You're given your gifts as women upfront, it's up to you to cash in. Once you hit the wall it's game over, you've lost your high value. These women have to accept that they are past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:18 AM
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Here's the issue, women don't want to be treated like regular people, their idea of regular is already above the default treatment given to your regular guy. They don't want that level of treatment, they want preferential treatment (which they internalise as being average treatment, which it isn't).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:11 PM
1

The problem is cooking and cleaning ISN'T seen as something women do anymore. That's literally the fucking issue. Women still see traditional male roles as things "men do", but cooking and cleaning is no longer seen as things "women do". If women want traditional behaviour for men, then they should cook and clean. You included.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:54 PM
0

Women do expect those things from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:53 PM
2

Women should not expect traditional behaviour from men in any capacity if they won't cook and clean once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:00 AM
1

Your standards are high, like all women because you are hypergamous and need a man better than you to maintain attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:04 PM
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No, because in their minds they do not have high standards. Women are hypergamous, they want men better than them and they think they are deserving of these men regardless of what their own level is. The "bar is on the floor" should in fact be, the "bar is on the floor right above where I place average men". What women don't really realise is all the extra stuff (their income, the fact that they own a home and have a car) does not add to their desirability in the eyes of men. Do you look good? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:03 PM
1

I feel sorry for you because you truly bought into the deflections and lies that women throw at men. Yes, a promiscuous past is bad news. You will come out of this stronger, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:57 PM
2

You can't change who you truly are. Nor should you change because you've already outlined what you really want. You want to be submissive to a woman. I'm just saying it won't be easy for you, you are a defective male in the eyes of most women. You are repulsive to most women. I won't sugar-coat it, as you probably already realise exactly what awaits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:55 PM
1

The vast majority of women would be repulsed by you. They may not ever mention this in public, but in a safe environment free of judgment they will lambast you for not being up to par. Some women exist who will be ok with this and who may be attracted to you, but they'll never truly respect you. It's in a woman's very nature to want to find a man who is dominant and who is a leader. You are not that. You run the very real risk of dying without ever finding a truly satisfying relationship for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:27 PM
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For guys like him? Well, if you’re not a looker online dating is off the table. Real life might not be kinder, but he may be able to let his personality shine more in those circumstances. It’s hard to give firm advice that will produce results for below average men, because you usually have to cross a basic looks bar before the other things start mattering but: put yourself in uncomfortable situations to build up resilience, approach and talk to girls, get rejected and get familiar with the feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:25 PM
2

How many times must we go through this talking point? Absolutely NOT. Women cannot control what something like this will do to their attraction for you. Attraction is non-negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:01 PM
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Except no. Hypergamy is what makes them think that there's parity in levels of attractiveness - it's delusion. It actually means the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:34 PM
2

Here's the unfortunate reality: they CAN and WILL do this. Reality is amoral, it'd be nice if women did not behave in a hypocritical manner, but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:37 AM
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Unfortunately yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:07 AM
2

And no, no one will believe any made up story you’re going to attempt to “prove” You have any real life experience so don’t even try. These are your words. I have nothing to say to you. Stop trying to get the last word, you don't have anything to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:36 AM
2

No use focusing on just Tinder. Bumble and Hinge are in the same boat. Men struggle to get matches on all of these platforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:28 AM
2

I take that as a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:22 AM
1

With all due respect, I do not care whether you believe anything I say or not. Now, do you have anything of actual value to contribute?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:19 AM
-1

Yes. Women do not truly have fear of the proverbial guillotine of failure hanging above their heads like men do. As men, we know that if we fail at life, if we drop out of school, if we get fired, if we get made redundant that we are in serious trouble and our entire quality of life is going down the toilet. We don't have a back-up option, we'll be homeless if we can't find an actual job relatively quickly. Women also will not want to be around us. On the other hand, women can live off a man, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:12 AM
1

Agreed, you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:01 AM
2

I'm trans-blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:29 AM
4

At what height is a man’s dating life hindered? Anything below 5'10 provided she doesn't actually know that you are below 6'0. Due to men lying about their heights most women do not know what a true 6'0 height looks like. The key is for you not to look too short to the eye so she thinks you're 6'0. At what height range is the height of the man neutral to his dating life? 6'0. At what height range is it an active positive factor in a man’s dating life? 6'2 and above. Is there an upper limit on wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:59 AM
4

It's not something you have to be truthful about either. I tell women whatever they wish to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:58 AM
1

The real reason: hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:57 AM
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Ain't this the fucking truth. I have a good looking female friend who told me her friend was really attracted to me. Here I am excited. Come to find out she's an unattractive single mom
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:38 PM
5

Men do not owe women sex. She sounds very entitled and is giving off "rapey" vibes tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:55 AM
1

I would say it has made me quite selfish and to a large extent power-drunk. After taking the red pill, it just connected all the dots for me. It was like the proverbial rubix cube of knowledge was just completed one day. Ever since, what I feel is not spite, anger, frustration or anything like that. I’m just jaded to some extent, not bitter. I will fornicate to my heart’s content and no feminist, PPD woman or FDSer can stop me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:21 PM
9

Women are seeking excitement filled relationships of ups and downs (emotional rollercoaster), men want emotional consistency and predictability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:03 AM
1

I appreciate your input, but just to be clear, I'm speaking about what the vast majority of women would classify as a low value man. There will always be exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:36 PM
10

In women's eyes? A man who is physically unattractive, short, broke, shy/not aggressive, a man who dares to be critical of the gynocentric society that we live in, a man who doesn't abide by traditional gender roles on the male side even if she doesn't abide female gender roles. That would be what women consider a low value man. There's some cross-over there with what a man would consider to be a low value man, but not too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:07 PM
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At this point, if anyone believes that women are not hypergamous, they’re fooling themselves. The problem again, is too many men are taking what women say at face value as opposed to watching what they actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:53 AM
-1

The dating market is skewed against men because we live in a globalised sexual market place and women are all clamouring for the top tier males and ignoring everybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:03 PM
1

That's true. But if she's been seeing a guy for a while and he says "I don't know" then she's in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:53 AM
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We have the answers already. A globalised sexual market place mixed in with hypergamy on the female end. That's a recipe for disaster. You have women who under normal circumstances wouldn't have the ability to connect with top tier men for casual sex being able to now with the swipe of a finger. What do you think women are going to do? They're not going to satisfy their urges by settling for the less attractive guy in her immediate vicinity, they're going to lay in bed with the best man they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:50 AM
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Now I need to go on the hunt to find one of these subreddits where women are drooling over fat men, but I know that I won't find one so am I wasting my time? It really is a sobering thought. Hypergamy is so very overpowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:05 PM
4

It is absolutely as hard for men as people on this sub are making it out to be. It's easy for women in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:06 PM
5

Women always want things from men. Age gap is irrelevant in that discussion. Women date men for resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:23 AM
1

I appreciate you for being honest about this, these are the things men need to hear. Have a good day lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:49 PM
6

Yeah, I've stopped now. Felt like I was banging my head against a wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:37 PM
6

I see I've reached the point of diminishing returns with this conversation. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:19 PM
9

I'm a man. I'm telling you right now, men do care. No matter what they tell you. Whether they keep it to themselves or not is quite frankly irrelevant. I know you want to believe that men don't care, but men care about as much as women care about a man's ability to provide despite what they say. You're taking this hard, but you shouldn't, you should use this as a learning experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:59 PM
15

We've already set the standards. They are literally in play. That's why women hide or lie about their body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:42 PM
5

I'm trans-blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:31 PM
11

Unfortunately, men write the narratives for women, and women write the narratives for men. That's life. You set the standards for us, and we set them for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:31 PM
7

A woman being a slut is relative to average women and how much they put out. If all women on average had 100 bodies then the definition of slut would change. But seeing as most women aren't racking up those kinds of numbers it won't. All men are "easy", it means nothing. There are no negative connotations connected to a man being easy because sex for a man is extremely hard to obtain in comparison. What part of this are you struggling with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:14 PM
1

I'm not downvoting you. I'm allowed to change my mind as many times as I wish. I get it. Women want men to be punished for having sex with them without commitment. It resonates with you, because you may be thinking back to a time where you were hurt in this exact way. I know, I know... I consented to a relationship beforehand. But you women taught me about retroactive consent/the ability to withdraw consent at any time! I'm just following your rules. Your insults don't affect me. I will continue…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:46 PM
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Calling men sluts is not an insult. It's a compliment because sex for men is hard to acquire. It's all rooted in how human beings view value. We determine value by scarcity or the illusion of rarity. Gold is valuable because it's scarce. Access to dick is abundant (every woman can get this in large amounts), access to pussy is scarce (very few men can do this). This is why being called a slut for a woman has negative connotations. She's easy, as such, she is unvaluable from a RMV standpoint in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:38 PM
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You've jogged my memory. Penis shaming is another one. When tensions are not running high, you will hear penis size doesn't matter. When emotions are high and she's worked up, you have a tiny dick and small dick energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:39 AM
1

When women say it, it's a subtle form of manipulation. It gets men to fall into a mind-set where they offer value for nothing in return. I don't think women are doing this consciously or maliciously however, but it falls under Pussy Cartel guidelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:38 AM
1

I can't change my mind? Only women can do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:34 AM
5

I respectfully disagree, it means as I said. When a guy says those things he is trying to dodge the question of a relationship. When we want a relationship with a girl, we make that pretty clear, or at least, we won't shy away from the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:33 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly. Often in the red pill, we say watch what women do not what they say. While true, it's a bit surface-level to say that. It's really: watch what women do AND what they say when they are in an emotional state, or in an environment free of judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:31 AM
7

I'm trans-blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:10 AM
16

Women: “You are entitled for wanting sex from a woman, no woman owes a man sex!” Also, women: “every woman deserves a fairy tale wedding and a relationship.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:58 AM
3

Not remotely true. “What are you looking for”, “what are we”, “where is this going”. Is asked by all ages of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:54 AM
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Inflated egos and entitlement driven by the gynocentric culture we're in. Women are "trained" (and arguably, biologically inclined [see solipsism]) to believe that they are better than and/or more moral/ethical than men are. As such, they put themselves on a pedestal, and often, weak men reinforce their position. It really is the "women good, men bad" thing. Women are RIGHT for wanting commitment, but men are defective women for only wanting "one thing". We can confirm this thought process by wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:47 AM
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The "incel" insult reveals women's true thoughts. They project often and tell men that sex isn't important, or overly important, and that virgin men are wanted and valuable but when shit hits the fan or they have their feelings hurt, emotions take over and they'll label you an incel. Translation: "women do not want you and that makes you undesirable". Another common one is women calling you a homosexual if they don't get what they want from you or if you reject them sexually. Women are often tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:33 AM
4

I didn't lie. I changed my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:48 PM
3

I haven't lied about anything. I simply "don't know what I'm looking for". She's looking for a relationship, I just don't know what I'm looking for. I get sweet sex and can continue to fornicate as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:24 PM
7

What's illegal? I manipulate women into having sex in the same way women manipulate men into going on foodie dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:14 PM
1

I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:07 PM
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When you ask him what he wants and he says something like "I don't know" or "I'm just seeing what's out there". Basically, if he never mentions the idea of a relationship, he's definitely not thinking about one with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:34 PM
1

I.... resonate strongly with this post. It feels like a never-ending game, and I feel as though I have to up the ante each time with regards to what I get a girl to do in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:01 PM
6

Oh, absolutely, it's crushing and it's definitely hard work. I remember the day it sort of clicked for me. I wasn't completely unsuccessful in high school, I went on dates and had kisses but could never quite close the deal. It wasn't until I studied PUA (pre-Red Pill), that I made a break-through and actually lost my virginity. But this took a conscious effort, and gruelling self improvement, it took failures, it took me spending money on nicer clothes, working out, learning how to speak to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:36 PM
12

If you ask women this question, you will not get an honest answer. Women can financially support a man for a very limited amount of time in the grand-scheme of things and every woman has a different limit or level of tolerance for it. Unless the woman is absolutely hideous and is dating up by 5 or 6 points, as a man, you are on borrowed time if a woman is providing for you. I'd say, 1 or 2%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:29 PM
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Categorically true, which is why men need to avoid and ignore any smokescreens women throw up alluding to the contrary and stay on a strict path of self-improvement on all fronts. IF you ever make it to the point where you can ensure semi-regularity with regards to sexual encounters with multiple different women, don't then easily forfeit that for anything less than an amazing woman who will be submissive and dutiful. I disagree with your last paragraph. Unless you're incredibly disfigured as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:22 PM
1

They will either call you an incel, or insinuate that you are homoseuxal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:12 PM
1

Nope. Because your money will do the talking for you. It's overweight, financially successful women who need to lower their standards as men do not give a shit about their money. Rick Ross does not need to lower his standards. Lizzo does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:19 PM
1

Female veterans would get my respect yes, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:13 AM
4

I don't look up to or admire women for the fact that they are women. I admire women if they are deserving of my admiration and that needs to be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:19 PM
2

The thing is, I think the weighting of emotional to physical isn't at all equal with men and women. I think men cheat far more for physical, and women far more for emotional. I've known men who have cheated in the past and now have a beautiful family with the same woman they cheated on after they've been forgiven. I know no such woman in the same position.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:35 AM
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If your man cheats on you most of the times it’s probably nothing personal, he just wanted a different flavour, it’s likely he still loves you. If your woman cheats on you, she’s looking to move on from you, she definitely does not love you and you definitely fucked up somewhere by communicating lower value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:32 AM
1

I didn't say it'd make him successful, I said it would help. And I'm trans-blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:25 PM
3

Yes it'll help. But the big thing that needs to change is his confidence. He's not a hideous human being. He just needs to fix his act up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:33 PM
1

I do not believe this to be the primary reason that women are so vocal about this. I absolutely believe the reason to be self-serving, because human beings by nature are self-serving. Is there an element of protection there from women? Most likely, but women are speaking on women they do not even know and infantilising them. What do I believe the actual reason to be? Jealousy and Pussy Cartel antics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:06 PM
5

Yep, this is pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:17 PM
6

I didn't say it is the only issue that can cause societal decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:46 PM
1

It shouldn't be your main strategy, but it's good to have in your back pocket. Worth trying if you pay for services, if you don't want to pay for Platinum or Premium then don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:07 PM
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I'll be honest, I don't see that much. If anything women these days are absolutely shameless about how much they are driven and drawn towards money. They are quite open about it really, often to a point of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:06 PM
3

I feel as though this is an appeal to women to get them to see a different side. The issue is however, women do not want men to have nice things. Male sexuality is seen as deprived, while female sexuality is seen as normal and healthy and without malice. Live your life and do not be concerned with whether women like it or not. They will hate if you date foreign girls abroad, they will date if you date younger (legal) girls, they will hate if you see escorts and I can keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:50 PM
2

On a 1 to 10 scale. A woman who is a 5 may want a 7 or 8 male to settle down with while she's in her prime years. Arguably, she'll settle for a 7 in overall relationship value (looks, personality, status, money). But when it comes to casual sex, she's more inclined to what 8 in overall sexual value (looks and status mainly).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:33 PM
82

Men failing in dating can absolutely lead to eventual societal decline. If average men stop caring about society as a whole, average women will suffer for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:13 AM
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Women have all the choice over average men, when it comes to sex and relationships. This idea that men gatekeep relationships is simply not true. Average women can get into relationships with average men any day of the week. When they say they can't find men to take them seriously, they mean men who are 2-3 points above them with regards to SMV and RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:20 AM
1

You need to be asking this question to incl communities. They will let you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:45 PM
5

I have similar experiences, and this is how I personally confirmed the existence of hypergamy for my own mental state.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:21 AM
1

If they want more success with the opposite gender, I'd highly advise that, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:04 PM
5

No. And that's the part that drives a lot of men up-the-wall. A feminist woman is still likely to expect you to abide by your traditional roles. Except she will absolve herself of her own traditional roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:04 PM
2

Depends entirely on how old she is. But I don't date older women so I'm looking at 10 and below.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:19 PM
7

Basically if her capacity for violence isn't silent, and she's all-round aggressive in general. That would be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:25 PM
7

It's attractive in men, and unattractive in women if it manifests itself as overt masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:15 PM
6

People will do and say whatever to secure what they want. Yes, men will lie to get sex. Yes, women will lie and omit details to get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:24 AM
1

Why haven't you married any of these men who want to marry you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:35 PM
2

No, that's not the reason you're saying that. You're saying that because you know very well that women are attracted to dominant, powerful men and you want that. What you don't want though is to give men what they want. You want a traditionally masculine man, however, you don't want to be a traditionally feminine woman so you're painting the narrative that what women want is perfectly fine and ok, but what men want is embarrassing and depraved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:01 AM
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Let's not beat around the bush here. We like agreeable women because they aren't annoying and they are easy to get along with. We are more attracted to them because we are drawn towards more docile women by nature. Attraction is amoral, it doesn't matter if women don't like it, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:54 PM
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is it embarrassing that women want a dominant/masculine man? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:53 PM
4

There's nothing wrong with wanting what you want, you're hypergamous. As long as you do not deny hypergamy there's no issue. Men need to be aware that women think just like you do about "ambition".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:00 PM
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This about sums it up: "Briffault is known for what is called Briffault's law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place." Women deemed it so. And women get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:46 AM
15

If you aren’t fucking her, but you want to, and you’re going out of your way to be around her despite her not reciprocating then you are an orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:30 PM
2

I wouldn’t say that necessarily. It depends on how much he knew about the risks beforehand. If he was completely unaware then I agree with you. If he knew, then the right analogy would be strolling through the favelas in Brazil for sightseeing. Yes, you shouldn’t get robbed, beaten and killed for that, but, you knew the risks beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:44 PM
5

That's true, to some extent we just fall for the smoke and mirrors. So it's not all on him, hopefully he escapes from this unscathed and finds a woman who will put him first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:15 PM
11

Poor fella. He has to take responsibility for this though, it's on him. Single mothers should never be taken seriously for a relationship. Their best bet is to reconcile with their ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:51 PM
9

Women would be unsatisfied with this arrangement and leave the app in droves. When will this get through to people? Women are looking for their “superior” (from a socio-economic standpoint, just to be clear). You cannot negotiate/force attraction. Online dating makes preferences even more shallow than they already are in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:54 AM
1

That's perfectly in-line with the evidence we have that women are only interested in the top 20%, so nobody is surprised by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:13 AM
0

I mean, in my younger years all I was told by the women my age is women mature faster than men do and they were more interested in the guy's older than us. At the time it hurt to hear that, but I agree with the ladies. Women do mature faster than men, so a 35 year old man has no business dating a 35 year old woman. He should date younger so they're at the same points in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:09 AM
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This is another study which may be of interest, it concerns women hiding their body counts: https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/239672/original/Alexander%252B%252526%252BFisher%252B%2525282003%252529.pdf Women understand on some level that having a high body count is bad despite what they may say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:05 AM
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He'll be greatly missed. Any time there's a man who women are very vocal about hating, that is absolutely a man you need to pay attention to, because it's very likely he's saying things that benefit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:08 PM
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We just hate the large number itself, we are disgusted by the number. All of the other rationalizations are made in the back of our minds. People are allowed to want what they are not, hell, women are notorious for this. Whether they have money or not "I want a rich man". Whether they're tall or not "I want a tall man/man over 6ft". Whether they're fat or not "I want a skinny/built man". Whether they drive or not "I want a man with a car". Women seem to never have an issue with their standards t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:59 PM
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Your issue with it is down to whether he values commitment or the emotional aspects of sex. A man’s issues with body count is the actual NUMBER itself. That’s just a side note. In relation to what you said, some girls might have an issue with high body count men. The reality is, most don’t really care, let’s be serious here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:28 AM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:14 AM
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This study I posted was in response to princess, and then you replied to that. "So you’re implying that not only do I (and women in general) lie to potential partners about our #s" I was indeed implying that, and I proved that women do lie about their number. You need to concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:42 PM
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Number of sexual partners. "men reported more sexual partners than did women in the exposure threat condition (3.7 vs. 2.6), where gender expectations are most salient. The magnitude of the sex difference decreased in the anonymity condition (4.2 vs. 3.4), and the direction of the difference actually reversed in the bogus pipeline condition, with men reporting fewer partners than women (4.0 vs. 4.4)." ​ This is expected. With exposure risk, men report more partners... no surprise there. Women ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:22 PM
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Stop with the silly insults or I simply will not respond. It's very easy to follow the trail to find what you are after. https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hjsr20/40/1?nav=tocList "Truth and consequences: Using the bogus pipeline to examine sex differences in self‐reported sexuality" With all references https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/ref/10.1080/00224490309552164 Of course, you could have very easily done this yourself. But, you'd rather divert the conversation instead of addressing the data. Agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:41 PM
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Journal reference: Journal of Sex Research: (vol 40, p 27) It's literally right at the bottom. I'm not sure what your game is here. You seem to be obsessed with proving the obvious wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:23 PM
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I'm guessing you are celibate by choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:17 PM
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What's it with everyone today and flinging insults? Yes, women lie about their body count often, how is this news? I know women about as well as these researchers do. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3936-fake-lie-detector-reveals-womens-sex-lies/ Info on sample sizes: https://tools4dev.org/resources/how-to-choose-a-sample-size/#:~:text=Most%20statisticians%20agree%20that%20the,to%20survey%20all%20of%20them. And I am happy for you. You should only date men you are compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:57 PM
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And they are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:18 PM
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You are the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:12 PM
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I’m trans-blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:45 PM
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Men do lie upwards so that sounds about right, yep
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:40 PM
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To a harmless question like “have you had a girlfriend before”? That’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:39 PM
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Well, it’s commonplace for women to either hide or outright lie about their number because men do care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:35 PM
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The vast majority I’d have sex with. I see a handful I’d pursue a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:06 PM
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Depends on how old you are. Also, you’re the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:00 PM
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Are you just going to follow me around and subtly insult me all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:33 PM
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And you couldn’t be more incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:32 PM
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Semantics. At the end of the day you implied lack of success with women on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:17 PM
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You implied that I’ve never “met” a woman sir, translation: “if you were actually successful with women you wouldn’t say that!” Incel means involuntary celibate. If I’ve never “met” a woman then I’d be an incel. Long story short, you’re implying that I have no success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:13 PM
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Why do PPD women think all men who post here are incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:06 PM
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Yep. That’s spot on. It’s a woman’s way of competing. Women compete whether they like it or not (and they do not like it, or rather they don’t want to accept the fact that they compete. It’s well known women deplore competition).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:05 PM
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You literally just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:01 PM
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AWALT. Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:59 PM
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…the fact that it makes you jealous speaks to how much it arouses you. It makes you jealous because this man is in demand and he should be yours and yours alone. Anyway, you admitted you care about what other women think of him. Again, pre-selection. I’m on a roll today. I’ve had 3 women admit to pre-selection already.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:54 PM
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But you do like men who other women want, whether he acts on it is a different story. You want other women to desire him, but for him to have eyes for just YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:40 PM
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Absolutely. Whining is a big turn off. He should just “get it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:21 PM
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“It would be an orange flag because he struggles to get laid and that’s yucky!” - pre-selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:20 PM
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It’s a common question. I wouldn’t hope. Make up a lie and keep your story straight. You had a one year relationship prior, it became long distance and you broke up as a consequence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:50 AM
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Well there’s no much to argue here, we agree that pre-selection is a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:44 AM
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If by some miracle societal views changed, and make-up usage was frowned upon, women would still find a way to stand out from the rest of the pack to attract more male attention. There’s no escaping it. It’s not due to shaming or the evil patriarchy that women use make-up, it’s to compete with other women for male attention. And they will stop at no means to acquire it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:40 AM
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Exactly. So what would he want you to say in that instance? Just stay on the red pill side of things and you’ll be fine, trust me. The results are evident
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:37 AM
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And you wouldn’t have married him if he was a virgin. Another point for pre-selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:31 AM
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It is pre-selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:29 AM
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So other women DID want him? And you knew this (after all you just said it isn’t true). I’m saying that isn’t as small a factor in your attraction as you think it is. Pre-selection. You proved my point. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:21 AM
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Yep, you wanted the man that no other woman wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:09 AM
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I look blue pill but on the inside I bleed red.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:29 AM
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I’m trans-blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:21 AM
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Probably because if you think about it your disgust level would reach boiling point and you’d begin to look at him differently. Most women want to believe their bf/husband was a huge player back in the day and she was the one that managed to tame the animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:11 AM
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I think short women tend to be more heightist due to both societal and biological reasons. On some level they must understand that their genes are shitty for ensuring tall male offspring. So their hypergamy leans heavily towards really tall men. From a societal standpoint, the dominant narrative is if you are a man under 6ft you should not be staring in a woman’s direction and you should ideally vanish from their sight like Houdini. You are spot on. Women treat short men HORRIBLY. And women neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:10 AM
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I’d argue most women aren’t virgins by the age of 18. They’d think he’s weird even at age 20
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:29 AM
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And if she asks, then what should he say? “Don’t worry about it”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:27 AM
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She’s hopeless because she’s here preaching fantasy romance where women good and men bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:13 AM
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Have you ever lied about your sexual past when you’ve been asked? Have you ever omitted a sexual encounter you’ve had with a guy because “it doesn’t count”? Have you ever gone on a date with a guy you had no intentions of being serious with just for the experience? Yes? No? Well, women do this, often, and I very much doubt you are out here preaching to them about the importance of telling the truth and being transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:12 AM
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“OP don’t lie, only women are allowed to do that!”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:06 AM
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Powerful. I would say in general, you need to force yourself to be less empathetic. Women can’t ever feel like they have you figured out. Don’t rob then of the joy of earning your love, for that is what they wish for, as soul-stinging as that is to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:05 AM
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Automod: No Black pill content.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:29 AM
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"Men, have morals!" "Women, get the bag, YASSS!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:07 AM
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Dude/Gal, it’s not about how I feel. It’s about what is. Stop standing here trying to be the bastion of all positivity and righteousness to men while women are playing a completely different game out here. Why would I change my mind??? I’m more successful AFTER the red pill than before it. I have no need to change anything. If anything, I need to lean even harder into the red and start fucking girls on their period too for further notches.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:57 AM
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I probably know women better than you do. Women do lie about their body count, quite often. Let me guess, it’s 3?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:42 AM
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So to recap: attraction is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:40 AM
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What? The red pill, purple pill etc… exist because people are struggling. This sub is a symptom of a societal issue. That is all. It’s no more or less toxic to his mind-state than the actual reality he lives in outside of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:56 AM
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Why is this relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:46 AM
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Real advice: be brave and unwavering. Don’t pay too much attention to the clown world women online who preach about where to approach women and where not to. They don’t get to decide that. Approach women wherever you feel comfortable, if they reject you, respond politely and walk away. Try again when you’ve licked your wounds. Keep dating apps going in the background and don’t be shy nor embarrassed to pay for premium services. Just don’t tell women that you paid or they’ll be disgusted. Definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:38 AM
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Nonsense advice. This sub is not the problem, it’s a symptom of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:34 AM
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They are doomed to fail because 90% of the time the woman initiates it, and understands on some level the leverage she has when it comes to NSA sex. The guy is usually beta and has no choice but to go along with it or risk going without pussy for a long time. He might be delusional enough to think he could get some sex from elsewhere but reality will soon slap him in the face. The reality is they are doomed to fail because women must respect you first, and a woman cannot respect a guy who is hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:16 PM
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I'd rather a pick-me to a feminist. Actually, I'm attracted to pick-me types. Here's the reality: women HATE men that simp for them. Men LOVE women that simp for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:48 PM
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Just say you're happy with the status quo instead of throwing up smokescreens. You are happy that men take the lead with dating, pay, plan and you don't have to, that is perfectly fine. You don't want that to change. I just hope you keep the same energy with regards to expectations of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:47 PM
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No True Scotsman fallacy. Unfortunately, a lot of feminists are out here spreading misandry like wildfire. Actual feminism is determined by what is actually practiced by actual feminists, and from we can see, feminism and misandry tend to go hand in hand. "No feminist would advocate that" Well myself and a lot of other men have heard them say just that. "No true feminist would advocate that" Hence the fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:27 PM
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Sounds like a pretty balanced traditional relationship for the most part. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:22 PM
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Can you explain your ideal marriage please?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:10 PM
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Peel it back a layer. A man's natural instinct is to protect and provide. Men at large accept this and aren't trying to shatter gender roles. Women are because they feel like they have the raw deal. But, they're only trying to shatter these expectations on their end, they would very much like men to stay in their box and continue to initiate, provide and protect. Hence why most men don't take feminism remotely seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:06 PM
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Glad we can agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:01 PM
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They have a desire to have equal benefits, just not equal responsibility or accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:00 PM
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It's not the norm. That's the entire point. Your evidence is anecdotal at best. The general attitude, consensus, behaviour etc... is that men pay, men initiate, men plan and men drive conversation. Nobody cares if 3 women out of the 100 you have talked to in your life have initiated, paid or planned. It is NOT the norm. And if they were able to be honest and not virtue signal they'd outright tell you they'd prefer to do none of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:59 PM
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So you're an egalitarian. Feminism is advocating for women's rights in definition and in practice, nothing more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:56 PM
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Well, are you still a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:51 PM
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They should, but they won't, and they don't have to, as they have all of the leverage. In an ideal world this would be the case, but in the current world we live in, women can have their cake and eat it too. And men are enablers, men want vagina so badly that they will put up with being the interviewee for the entire dating stage despite being the ones who are required to strike up interesting conversation and ask all of the questions. They will put up with having to spend the most money between…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:49 PM
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Women are celebrating his death online. Which speaks VOLUMES, not about Samuels, but about just how far gone most women are. To even hold women to standards and expect better of them is misogyny. To bring up facts about them is hate. To question them is treason. "The degree of absolute contempt only women are capable of when a man presents unflattering truths about female nature" was shown in full effect this morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:21 AM
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Male sexlessness has increased, and in the men's case it isn't by choice. Let's stop playing dumb here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:41 PM
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Ms. gofigure62, again, we are talking about what a high value man is. You are going off on a tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:19 PM
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It matters because it leaves a gap of sexlessness at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:18 PM
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Because men date down and women date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:03 PM
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I should have said, women need to lower their standards and be content with it, because chances are her lowered standards are her ACTUAL level. But hypergamy has other plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:59 PM
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I'll answer your questions below just to do it, but you're not really focusing on the point here. You're just asking random questions. We are talking about the idea of high value. I am saying that your description of high value does not at all match what women IDEALLY would want. If you asked a woman to close her eyes and describe a high value man, she would get to the '6, 6, 6' before she touches on any of the other factors you mentioned. I'm not saying those aren't important factors, they are,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:55 PM
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Yes, this is the status quo in the gynocentric society we live in. Just don't pay it too much mind or it'll drive you insane. It's hard to say it's any individual woman's fault. In western society which promotes "women good, men bad", why wouldn't you, as a woman believe that any standard you have is merely a preference, and any standard a man has is discrimination? They don't really identify any of these things as hypocrisy nor a double standard. "Women are oppressed, therefore they can say wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:38 PM
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If only this were remotely true and women weren't specifically after "6, 6, 6". Beta Billy who has all the love in the world to give does not have women hunting him down for a relationship. High value has objective measurements, those are first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:19 PM
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I was able to red pill a lot of men around me just by showing them podcasts or quotes that resonate with me personally. Surprise, surprise, the vast majority of them agreed and are now red pill. The reason this was so easy is because most average men share the exact same experiences and difficulties with women. Yes, the average man CAN find a girlfriend. After many years of singledom, dry spells, girls ghosting etc... they can luck out. Or, they date down. Or, they get in a relationship with a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:42 AM
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Don't be unsure. Most men are starving without options and will cling to any little bit of hope that the girl they have a crush on will give them some sexual attention. Women are absolutely in a position of power with regards to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:37 AM
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For the dating scene to be improved for everybody women need to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:22 AM
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Yes this is absolutely the right decision. Improve your value as much as possible so you can increase your chances of attracting a non-fat woman. Most men are in a position where they can really only attract bottom tier women, so by getting in shape you can make yourself at least a bit more desirable overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:21 AM
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The top 20% are the men that most women find attractive. The guy who has all of the options and always has a new girl ready to come around to bang. These men are objectively attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:07 PM
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It's a minefield trying to get the top 20% man to commit. The mines on the field are the bottom 80% of men women desperately try to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:54 PM
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It’s women who believe in the power couple narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:37 AM
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They bring the calculators out. Even at a bar, it’s never just one woman covering the bill for the clan. They are resource extractors by nature
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:34 AM
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Every day they come in here and confirm the Red Pill unprovoked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:31 AM
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Not if I can help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:58 AM
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This is what pushed the human race forward. Woman’s lack of drive for competition certainly didn’t do it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:58 AM
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As have I brother. This is why we have the authority to speak on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:10 PM
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When she says “I don’t hate you” it means she’s indifferent to you, which is the worst thing she can be
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:43 PM
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In my experience this is absolutely true. The more apologetic you are, the more of a pushover you are, the more sympathetic you are, THE LESS respect she’ll have for you. If you cheat and do not apologise, grovel and beg she is far likelier to take you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:22 PM
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Whether you want to accept it or not, most women will be secretly repulsed by you. Traditional gender roles are so 1950s *when applied to women. Women still want men to do their traditional roles and be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:22 AM
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The ones who don't are in the minority in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:57 AM
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Lol at you implying that women don't enjoy casual sex at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:50 AM
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It's sad. We get one life, and we may never get to experience even 10% of what it feels like to live as "Chad". The best we can do is statusmaxx or moneymaxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:49 AM
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Again, a lot of "who hurt you's" in the comments. Women refuse to acknowledge just how easy they have it. No matter how fat and sloppy they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:33 AM
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Probably "when are you coming over to fuck me?". In comparison to average men who get "yep", "nm u", "yea lol" and any other low effort message you can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:33 AM
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Why are women so incapable of putting themselves in a man's shoes? There's a lot of dismissals and gaslighting going on in the comments about how "you just need to have a personality" or "just have female friends", there's no understanding at all about how women themselves select and the barriers they put up for average men that they don't put up for Chad. "You can't just treat a woman like a number". These PPD women want men to put 100% effort, attention, time and resources into a woman who can…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:31 AM
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Women have a genuine abundance mindset. They absolutely do not live in the reality most men live in. I call it Lala Land.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:10 AM
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Helps them sleep at night I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:43 PM
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I’d argue that women invented the Nice Guy TM term to have an excuse to reject genuinely nice guys. Guys who were lied to by their mothers and society about how being nice to a girl would get you rewarded. Only to find out that isn’t at all true. The Nice Guy TMs aren’t fake nice guys, they’re genuinely nice guys who are shocked and surprised that everything they’ve been told was a lie (confirmed by their continuous rejection by women). When he sees the girl end up with the asshole time and tine…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:33 PM
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Harry Styles wears dresses. Women OFTEN love men who wear dresses? I swear, you women here struggle to be even a little bit honest. It's embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:24 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2769593/HALF-women-fall-partner-standby-fancied-case-current-relationship-turns-sour.html
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:50 PM
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Gaslight someone else. Credit to: E-2-butene
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:45 PM
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No, I'm under no illusion that Harry's fame and status give him a pass. I know very well what would happen if he wasn't famous though. Women certainly wouldn't be calling him masculine or even trying to fuck him. He'd be in the gay bestie zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:15 PM
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Then why are you here trying to talk my head off about it? I only ever advocate for men to play the game that women are playing. In an ideal world nobody has back up options and they have complete tunnelvision on their relationship. No orbiters, no "he's just my friend!'s" or anything of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:10 PM
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I understand that. But you need to be telling that to the sisterhood who actually HAVE back up options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:57 PM
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Women's game of keeping back up dudes around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:56 PM
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They don't need them, but it doesn't stop them from actually having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:55 PM
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Harry Styles is not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:41 PM
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"Don't play our game, only we deserve to have back up options!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:40 PM
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I've surely heard it all. Harry Styles "radiates masculinity". Perhaps your twisted definition of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:54 PM
1

it's older men who seek younger partners and not vice versa. You honestly believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:13 AM
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All the evidence points towards women simping for status/money and not love. Tinder Swindler wasn’t offering an empty wallet full of love. They fell in love with a man they could put on the highest of pedestals. They fell in love with “Chad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:21 AM
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It’s down to hypergamy. FOMO kicks in heavily and they throw caution to the wind. It’s the same reason why women do not consider things like their own safety/inconveniences when they drive to Chad’s house 100 miles away dead in the middle of the night for a Tinder hookup. In order to secure a top tier male, to her, there is no risk too big to take. It’s really a sobering thought. I presume you had something like the Tinder Swindler in mind when you wrote this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:15 AM
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You can't negotiate attraction, you see, that statement works both ways. You're trying to convince yourself to be attracted to a woman who is triggering one of your primary existential fears. Women might call you insecure, but pay that no mind as they are very strict with their preferences themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:55 AM
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The % of incels that become violent serial killers/mass shooters is so incredibly small that it's hardly worth considering. Plus, there are far more incels than there are FDSers. If there were more FDSers, there would be a higher likelihood of violent action from women. It can also be argued that women focus their violence more on whatever man they're directly dealing with as opposed to the male population as a whole. There are plenty of stories of women killing their boyfriends, cutting their d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:57 AM
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Well, if free speech is letting people speak out, then why are the incel subs banned? That's the point. If we're going the free speech route, then unban FDS AND the Incel Reddits, but they won't do that because women = good, men = bad. And that's not me advocating for the incels, it's me advocating for equality across the board. None of those FDS strategies actually work because they aren't giving advice on how to actually be attractive to men. Men do not want older, jaded, bitter women who use …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:48 AM
2

What? No. Unattractive women can still find companionship in some shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:35 AM
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Wow, are you serious? This is absolutely fantastic news! Those femcels were destructive and hateful and at points even made the most extreme of incel posting look tame. This is the equality we want. In future Reddit needs to act more swiftly. If incel subs aren't allowed, then neither should FDS. I imagine these scorned women will migrate elsewhere to a forum or Discord or something of that nature. But at least they have no presence on Reddit anymore. I think the best part of this is they can no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:31 AM
2

I like that, relative confidence sounds better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:47 AM
4

Not huge, but definitely not micropenises. They'd rather an average penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:09 PM
9

Women with small vaginas are no different to short women. Just because short women are well... short, doesn't mean they want short men. Women are hypergamous, they want the best man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:00 PM
6

Well, he just has to keep trying, nothing more he can do besides that. He'll have to deal with insults/word of mouth about how small his dick is for the rest of his life which will affect him greatly. Of course, this will not be seen as body shaming. Normally I'd never recommend this, but his is a special case. His best bet is to put off sex as long as possible and build as much rapport/attachment as he can with a woman. She may then be reluctant to cut him off when she sees the size of his wien…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:56 PM
5

Who said I was giving advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:43 PM
12

There's objective confidence and then there's subjective confidence. The kind women care about is subjective confidence. The ugly guy could be the most confident guy in the room, the most talkative, the easiest to get along with etc... and women will not perceive him as confident, but instead, annoying. Chad however can be relatively reserved, and not very confident at all and the Halo Effect will kick in. To women HE is the most confident guy in the room and totally not annoying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:17 PM
1

Not making excuses for any rapist. But on the topic of “consent”? Women have no actual concept or grasp on that themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:36 PM
4

Women don't like uncomfortable terms. They want to be free to do as many degenerate things as possible without being judged for it. So it's not obesity/gluttony it's fat acceptance/loving yourself. It's not prostitution it's "sex work" or "sugar babying" and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:34 AM
5

29/30 is still young enough. When you’re on the business end of your 30s though higher tier men really won’t be jumping out the window to commit to you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:15 AM
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Be hot but not too hot that I feel insecure around you. Be emotional but not too emotional. Earn a lot of money but don’t work too hard so I never see you. Be confident but not cocky. Be assertive but not pushy. Be caring but not too caring. WOMEN. Ladies and gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:56 AM
0

When she says that she’s imagining Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:47 AM
7

I disagree completely. Status is king
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:52 PM
7

Popularity/Social proof/People respect you and know you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:19 PM
7

He is talking about sex and dating that's the entire point. Women DO have it easier than men with regards to this, again, please stop this silly trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:17 PM
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Don’t do this, PLEASE.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:57 PM
13

Yes, clout/social status is the most important thing with women by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:49 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:40 AM
1

Depends on how relationship focused he is/isn’t. I’ve met chads who have chosen to suppress their full power and only focus on monogamy (for the most part). For the more promiscuous ones, probably over 200 by the age of 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:24 AM
1

How do they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:00 AM
1

No logical arguments against it no, but women claim it will destroy the trust…which I can understand to an extent. But that should come second to something as serious as paternity. Women simply cannot see that perspective though at large, which in my opinion is self-centred and selfish. If you have nothing to hide, put his mind at peace and don’t be insufferable about it afterwards with “I told you so’s”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:27 PM
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Let me put it this way. Their words do not match their actions. “Hypergamy is a lie!” - Swipes left on 90% of men on social media and only swipes right on top tier males (chads), despite her own level. She believes she deserves this and only this. Thus creating an immense casual sex gap. “Your past shouldn’t matter!” - Will viciously exclude/mock any man that has visited escorts in the past “Spinning plates is dumb!” - Has backup options herself, men in the friendzone, is dating numerous men at …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:36 AM
1

So you’re an ex-RP’er and you’re wondering why you don’t have the answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:52 AM
3

He’d be the weird one in 95% of social circles with actual masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:06 PM
3

He thinks it would be weird to care about if your woman had sex with 1000 men before you? Weirdness is determined by the abnormal. The norm or normal is the majority. It is the norm to care about a woman’s promiscuity, this has been the case since biblical times, we have no need to play dumb here. I say that to say, all due respect, and truly no offence meant, but caring about n count for men is normal. Your boyfriend is the weird one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:00 PM
1

Why couldn’t he finish reading it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:43 PM
3

Maybe they do not care in that case. In my experience men who don’t care aren’t the norm however, so this “most men don’t care” thing is definitely not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:42 PM
3

I don’t know how desperate the men you married are/were. That’s an important factor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:34 PM
4

On a scale of traditional woman to FDS, most average woman rank a 6 or 7. Which is pretty far gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:30 PM
3

You are a woman. You have very little idea about how men think. Your reality about men is based on men tiptoeing around you to protect your feelings. You don't have to believe it, but it's the truth. Men do care, be as ignorant as you want about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:23 PM
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No, they do care. They're not asking you because they know what all men know. Once we find out your n count it will be impossible for us to look at you idealistically ever again. You can go from being our sweet angel to a dirty slut within minutes if we find out your real number and it's unsavoury. That's why they haven't asked you. Some men would rather live in blissful ignorance than shatter the angelic image they've built up of you. I'm a man, who knows other men... MEN CARE. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:18 PM
3

Like I said, stop trying to wiggle around this. The vast majority of men consider promiscuous women to be low value. Whether that's men with low n counts or high n counts. I know it's a lot easier to convince yourself that high value men don't care, but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:15 PM
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A woman who gives up sex easily is lower value to us whether you like it or not. Gold is valuable because it's scarce. If gold was abundant we wouldn't value it. If you are communal pussy then you are low value, end of story. Stop trying to wiggle around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:11 PM
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It's amazing how they move the goalposts. Comical even actually. So her preferences make perfect sense!!! And are perfectly fair! But a man who wants a woman who isn't a slut? Oh, we can't have that now can we? How close minded of him. Women good, men bad. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Men look out for yourselves, women look out for themselves so do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:09 PM
1

How is Briffault's Law and Hypergamy unique to women? These two things have a huge impact on how women love, and men do not love this way. Men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:35 PM
0

BRIFFAULT'S LAW: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. There is nothing idealistic about this, it's very pragmatic and based in reality. If said man does not perform, he does not receive her love. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/money-marriage-end-divorce-day-relationships-personal-finances-slater-gordon-a8147921.html - this is the femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:23 PM
1

Men love idealistically and women love opportunistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:43 PM
1

I didn’t say men love unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:31 PM
0

Let's not sugarcoat dear Ylduts. Women* are so inundated with choices it's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:12 PM
1

Yes, they love you on the condition that you provide value. It's not right or wrong, it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:09 PM
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Yes, absolutely. We live in a globalised sexual market place now where by simply logging on an app you can date people from all over the world. No longer do you need to date the guy next door who earns the same amount as you do in the same dead-end retail job, you can date the six-figure earning software engineer from another side of the country. Women have too many options for casual sex in particular, if that is what they are looking for. Average men do not have these same options despite havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:01 PM
1

I’m already dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:06 AM
1

An FDSer at age 19? Tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:03 AM
1

Early 30s. I'd probably date you. You're the right age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:53 AM
1

Women absolutely do love their partners, they simply love differently than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:44 AM
1

Stop projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:14 PM
1

Huh? I don't give a shit about older women. I date women your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:00 PM
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It's cope for the fact that you are far less likely at that age to attract a high quality male. Now you're selecting for beta bucks and have to pretend that the men that don't want you are just immature and not that special anyways yasssss
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:59 PM
2

They do not have a better pick with men, what kind of bizarro world are you living in? Men value physical attraction FIRST. We care about beauty! Jesus you’re so bitter you’re starting to make up a reality that doesn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:52 PM
1

Question: how would you know they've been trafficked?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:55 PM
9

Let's not act like you can't find any yourself. They are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:56 PM
12

It's absolutely not a prize, prizes aren't abundant. If it was such a prize, women would be jumping over chads to get to beta billy, but they aren't. If you want a male virgin so much I know a few I can send your way, all these "prizes" just for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:45 PM
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Yes, post-wall women are desperate this is not breaking news. They have to put up with whatever because they lack options, funny how that works eh? It's a state of scarcity, this is what most men experience throughout the course of their lives. A state of scarcity and desperation where they allow their girlfriends/wives to walk over them because they don't have many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:50 PM
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Male virginity is attractive Gaslight someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:36 PM
5

I want to fornicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 01:51 PM
7

You are the exception not the rule. 99% of men in the west are not like you, they want casual sex. And they aren’t virgins by choice either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:39 PM
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It limits pussy power and women simply cannot have that. You will MAN UP and marry that single mum you sexist pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:24 PM
8

You are literally looking for a unicorn. Men who HAVE options exercise them. Men who DO NOT have options wish they did. You're going to end up with one of these two: a guy who doesn't practice casual sex not because he doesn't want to, but because he CAN'T (average to below average male) a guy who practices casual sex because he's a above average man with actual options (higher tier male, more likely to trigger your attraction) Honestly, some of you women truly live in lala land. I don't even wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:29 AM
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Let's get something very clear, women would shun average men for this because it displays lower value in their eyes. "Why does he have to pay for sex?", is the thought in their minds. This is on the same exact lines as man being a virgin past a certain age. I've seen women here virtue signal that they would gladly date a virgin. The caveat they forget to add is they would maybe date a virgin if he was a virgin by CHOICE. Most men of course, aren't. So, the disgust women have towards average men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 07:10 AM
5

Literally it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:18 AM
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I had to deal with a woman here calling me a rapist and a sex-trafficking supporter because I said it's ok for average men to see escorts due to their lack of options. It's insane really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:11 AM
1

Sorry. Women = Dating life on easy mode. I wouldn't want to bleed from my penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:46 PM
7

That 20% of the men are having sex with 80% of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:32 PM
1

We are all aiming to be like Chad in this life. Good luck good brother
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:19 PM
1

Why do you think they get so triggered when you call out 80/20? It's almost as if they want to hide what they're doing behind closed doors, but it's very visible to most average men. It's incredibly bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:23 PM
1

We know who's banging the vast majority of the women. We know who's getting all of the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:54 PM
1

Gaslight somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:34 PM
1

So now we're gaslighting men into believing that Chad (the top 20%) is just in our minds and totally not a real thing at all. Wow, the level of manipulation knows no limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:28 PM
-1

Sorry Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:21 PM
4

I believe you, I just believe you are the exception. Isn’t that what women want anyway? To feel unique and special?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:08 PM
1

We’re the new Blue Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:48 PM
1

Did you expect any different really? Women in general will only risk rejection when the reward is worth it. So you being much more attractive than them triggers the hypergamy panic button and they're willing to throw their pride/fears out of the window for a chance at you. Mind you, she still would feel like overall her value is comparable to yours, even though it isn't because women rate themselves far higher than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:28 PM
9

Unfortunately men aren’t making this up, this our experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:53 PM
1

Of course, it's just that simple. Get a group of attractive female friends and build a lot of rapport with them before putting yourself in the friendzone. After which you hope that they put in a good word for you with one of their attractive friends who isn't part of their immediate group and not the frumpy friend who's been single for 5 years and just wants the man of her dreams so she can be happy and off-the-market. Of course, they'll probably try to hook you up with the 3/10 because she dese…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:11 PM
6

Well done, you’re the exception to the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:35 AM
8

Pussy is hard to come by. Men know that if they are as volatile as women, and are as quick to break things off and monkey branch to the next, that they could go months if not years without pussy or another relationship with a woman of equal sexual/relationship value. Harsh truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:18 AM
23

No man, it does not go both ways. That's just you. Most men deal with and tolerate their woman crying over trivialities. Megan didn't wish you happy birthday on Snapchat? Aww come here baby. You look fat in that white dress? Awh come here babe it'll be ok. It's only men that have caveats placed on showing emotion, and these caveats are not communicated outright to men because women themselves don't truly understand what turns them on or off. They have an idea, but it's not concrete. The specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:04 AM
2

Because men have been providers for thousands of years. As such, we do not have the impulse/the instinct/the drive and so on, to pursue those qualities in women. Why even ask a question like this? It's well known that men select for beauty, motherly qualities and youthfulness. Where is the "gold digger" stigma for men? It doesn't exist because it's not something men look for. Furthermore, women have a barrier against lower earning men called hypergamy. So even if he did care about her earning po…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:57 AM
5

It's a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:44 AM
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It would look like the complete opposite of what women here will virtue signal to you. They will SAY that they wouldn't mind him crying, telling her everything about his life, from the troubles he has at work, to his crippling depression to losing his save data on his Xbox. The harsh reality is women only want men to open up in very specific ways, or not at all. Or rather, they think they want him to cry in her lap, but her biology has different plans for any man stupid enough to fall for that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:44 AM
4

Average men don't have options to be hooking their friends up with girls when they don't even have girls for themselves. Do you see beggars donating to beggars? Again, women = life on easy mode. You don't have to feel bad about that, but admit it. I will also add that women are very prone to pre-selection. What this means is, all of those women (her friends) vouching for that ONE man, indicates to her that he is indeed high value. A group of average males vouching for their male friend to a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:32 AM
3

These days it's possible to identify as whatever you want, so I simply identify as blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:07 AM
33

This is exactly what it boils down to. Women CAN get relationships, do not be fooled. They are simply aiming far above their own RMV. As per hyper-gamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:20 AM
6

250k is a massive sample group.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:19 AM
7

Women = Life on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:10 AM
1

Men are pretty much shamed into accepting all manner of unsavoury behaviour from women. If you let your girl have male friends that she hangs out with on a 1 on 1 basis, you have no respect for yourself as a man and you're spineless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:13 AM
3

No, you care about his career because it provides you with security and resources, not because you can chit-chat over coffee about random stuff. And there's nothing wrong that. Men don't care that much about your career because men don't get access to a woman's money. In a relationship your money is your money and his money is his money and your money. So why would we give a toss about your ability to earn? If we earn well enough to share, you just need a job, any job so we know you're not compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:09 AM
3

Most men are attracted to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:01 AM
1

That's what they claim it's about, but when you dig below the surface itself a thinly veiled attempt to increase the sexual value of fat women in the eyes of men. If you do not support this campaign to remove accountability for women for their gluttonous behaviour you will be deemed an asshole. The very fact that we're promoting obesity is insane in itself. It's positively correlated with poor health. Whereas short men really have nothing wrong with them from a health standpoint, they're just un…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:25 AM
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Not enough chads to go around, essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:15 AM
7

People identify as what they want these days. So I identify as blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:46 PM
1

Attraction cannot be negotiated or debated. You can't talk someone into finding you sexy. That's not an issue, people need to accept that. The issue is women have quite literally created campaigns and movements to shame men into finding them attractive. There are no campaigns for short men, but there is for "plus-sized" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:41 PM
0

Women have been the biggest advocates for the trans community, it's largely been women campaigning and protesting on behalf of the trans community. Largely, it has also been women defending the stance that transwomen ARE women. This is fine for feminist leaning women, because initially, they just viewed it as a fight against men. "If you don't date transwomen then you are transphobic!". Now transwomen are forcing stuff onto women and they aren't taking it too well. I'm just on the sidelines watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:16 PM
9

Agreed with all of this. Women want a man to be ready-made, a natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:12 PM
1

Women do not want beta males stepping out of line and "pretending" to be alphas. That is fewer men to manipulate and use for resources and/or emotional support. And men who you would initially perceive to be unworthy of procreating with, appearing worthy and bypassing your hypergamous filter. Women CANNOT have this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:08 PM
1

Yep. Learn a trade, do an apprenticeship, study online and pay for a coding/testing course, research your options. College/University isn't the only route to a high earning career. Take your life into your own hands and work tirelessly to get there. You're a man, nobody will feel sympathy for you in this world, girls won't give a shit about your struggles, be the man you know you can be and find that ambition deep within yourself. I'm only a random on the internet, but I want all men to do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:31 PM
1

It’ll come together for you eventually work hard on yourself. I love how objective you are about your situation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:56 AM
1

I expect that women see around 80-90% of men as losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:42 AM
2

We don't truly know yet, online dating in its current format is still quite new. Let's see in the next 20 years what overall impact it has to the market. Short term is looking bleak though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:22 AM
1

They are brainwashed. The vitriol they have towards "pick-mes" is really telling. Men LOVE pick-me type women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 03:22 PM
1

Maybe true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 05:05 PM
0

It’s an oversimplification. The point is, men do not typically value a woman for status or money. The list of tangibles men look for are far fewer in number.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:51 PM
0

The equation doesn’t quite work like that. It’s about overall perceived value. Every woman is looking for the same total. But the components that make up said total are different depending on the woman. In general you need a combination of status (+money), looks and game. Whereas women really only offer looks. The equivalent of a 9/10 woman is a man with a lot of money, status and decent looks OR a man with some money, some status and model tier good looks. But we have to bring a lot more to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:30 PM
1

Women have that base covered already. Fewer women are choosing to have children than ever. Some in this group are simply running out of time after chasing a career (this is the “you can have it all” lie). They are also pricing themselves out of relationships as women becoming more accomplished raises the minimum bar for their hypergamy to be satisfied. Prostitution being legalised itself would do anything to fertility rates as women are not checking for the kind of men who would pursue that aven…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:29 PM
2

Women know their past matters to men, don’t believe or think otherwise. They wish it didn’t, and that’s where the debating and gaslighting comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:19 PM
0

How can I verify that you are in fact, sane?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:16 PM
42

It’s a matter of discovery versus disclosure. You only show her just enough without throwing it in her face. The RP does not go against stealth wealth necessarily. Display your wealth without bragging, and even more, let her discover it on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:56 AM
5

They are not only tolerated, they are celebrated. They aren’t even considered manipulative. As I said, women can turn you down for sex and take up your time talking about their issues and there’s no problem here. If you do the opposite and turn her down emotionally and push for sex, you’d be the villain. Entitlement is acceptable only one way. Men badly need to become selfish as crazy as that may sound. Women are very selfish with their needs. Women here will downplay the effects of foodie dates…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:37 AM
-1

Men and women need each other to maintain their sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 10:42 AM
16

If you listen to this advice as a man you’re going to die alone and broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:02 AM
8

All men need to do is match a woman’s level of manipulation. And make no mistake about it, women are very manipulative, it’s their default state actually. They will hide their sexual past if it means revealing it will compromise their ability to secure commitment/resources in the future. They will use men for free food/drinks, they will use men for emotional support with no intentions of dating them (friendzone). Women look out for themselves and men need to do the exact same. Here’s an example,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:59 AM
1

So men that (to their knowledge) have consensual sex with a prostitute that they did not know has been sexually trafficked should be locked up? You really are insane. I mean I knew you were, but I needed to check. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:23 AM
2

Such an idea is soul stinging for guys. No man wants another man's leftovers. They want to be desired the same as the guy whose dick she sucked in that club bathroom 5 years prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:03 PM
1

What should happen to men who go to see a prostitute and have sex with her unbeknownst to the fact that she is trafficked?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 10:19 AM
2

I have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:33 AM
3

There will be something, some kind of policy, some kind of alteration in society to improve how women are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:01 AM
5

A guy who does not supplicate to her. A guy who does not kiss her ass. A guy who knows how to say no. A guy who is not too clean cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 09:03 PM
3

The rate is up also. Because the number of marriages is down 1970 onwards but the number of divorces are still quite high. Anyway, I was just putting an idea out there. Marriage used to be about duty and raising kids. Nowadays it's about happiness, which can be fleeting. Now, the issue isn't so much that women can and will divorce, it's that they're incentivised to. And they can pull any reason out of their ass as to why they badly need that divorce, and a man somewhere is going to get fucked ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:26 PM
2

I'm confused on what you're arguing here. Your initial gripe was that you doubted that the rate of divorce was indeed through the roof, I proved that it is through the roof. That's the important part here. It is a matter of cause and effect. The cause for all of this was feminism and changing attitudes towards female independence. As outlined here: https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/olympic-britain/housing-and-home-life/split-pairs/#:~:text=These%20liberalisations%20of%20di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:05 PM
1

If you look at my post history you'll get an idea for what I truly lean to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 05:44 PM
2

2020 dataset. Excel document. Go to tab 7a. It'll show you the number of divorces per year for opposite-sex marriages. Ok? Now, then look at this: https://www.statista.com/statistics/281533/number-of-marriages-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/ This shows you the amount of marriages PER YEAR. Now, if you are any good at math you will notice that the rate of divorce is WAY up over that period of time. Number of marriages = down, number of divorces = up or stable since 1970. This coincides with second-wave…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 05:37 PM
2

The difference between men and women though is men LIKE women who supplicate to them. Women however do not like this. A pickme is an attractive woman to us, because pickme women tend to be more docile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 05:12 PM
3

It's certainly not easy as an average man. All you can do is make yourself not-so-average. If your looks are the problem, then focus on status, if status is the problem, focus on improving your looks the best you can. Focus on your game always. Life is unfair, and as the performative sex you need to perform... as daunting as that sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:45 PM
1

As opposed to before second-wave feminism. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/divorce/datasets/divorcesinenglandandwales
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:43 PM
0

What do you mean by “tried getting with”, did you succeed or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:20 AM
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You don’t get married for happiness, it’s only in recent times that has become a thing. No wonder divorce rates are through the roof, as soon as she isn’t “happpyyy anymoreeee”, she runs to get the contract torn up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:55 AM
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If he can't* cheat on you, then he's not good enough for your* hypergamy. Women want a man who COULD cheat, but doesn't. Because the men who could cheat are the tall, good looking, wealthy men i.e. men with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 10:21 AM
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I don't expect much sympathy from women in the comments, just had a look through...and hardly any sympathy spotted. As I say, men worry about yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 05:42 AM
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Most men will cheat if they could. But again, it falls back to the 80/20 idea where they don't have the access or options. Here's the funny part. The 20% of men getting the play will absolutely cheat if women try to tie them down. But of course, women hate men who cheat, right? Now here's the dilemma. It's either women get with a guy who can and will cheat (top 20%), or they get with a guy who wants to cheat but he can't because he isn't desirable enough to other women (bottom 80%). Either way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 05:30 AM
1

You should know roughly who is looksmatched with you within +1 or -1 points. Plus, you need to understand that men consider looks above all, while women in general consider more variables, so that alone isn't necessarily enough. If a guy is looksmatched with you but has a lot of money and is very tall, he probably has more options besides you. So to assess if he's in your league you need to look at the qualities that are most important to you. If these objective qualities of attractiveness make …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:26 PM
2

Are you sure you were making a move on men in your league?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:04 PM
7

I have no thoughts. FDS is full of undesirable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:37 PM
1

I am allowed to identify as Blue Pill, as these days people can identify as whatever they feel like. And, I hope that your relationship works out and she doesn't resent you for that. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:29 PM
4

I don't make the rules, I only report them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:28 PM
5

Why do you think the argument is overused? Because it's a common occurrence. Until men are able to voice their own standards equally out in the open, or women are shamed into not being able to voice theirs we have a problem. Well, tell that to the women and maybe we'll make some progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:42 AM
5

I really need you to understand the fundamental point here. The point is, women see their own standards as normal, fair preferences. But, they see the standards men have as discriminatory, oppressive, sexist etc... this is evident. Scroll through any dating app, and you'll see things like "6ft men only" on women's profiles. But you will never see a man dare to write "no fat women" or he'd get fucking banned. Men have to hold their tongue, and they cannot be forthcoming with their standards. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:30 AM
2

All of the hate is worth it if I can get through to one or two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:24 AM
2

For a woman to actually PAY men for sex, she has to be a -1/10 or worse. There's no other explanation, so no. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you for feeling that way. I'm merely informing men that women feel that way, so if you are using sex workers and women find out, you're limiting your options. Men need to be as strict with their standards, and should not let women shame them into taking high N-count women seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:18 AM
2

No, they absolutely do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:15 AM
1

The reason I stated. On a biological level you are disgusted by those men. This is different from your conscious reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:08 AM
3

What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:07 AM
5

So with caveats, got it. So you can't truly be emotionally vulnerable unless it's done in a woman approved fashion. Like I said, cry to your male friends and save yourself any future headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:03 AM
3

He doesn't have the luxury to be doing background checks on prostitutes, he needs to worry about himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:59 AM
2

The real reason I mention what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:58 AM
5

Do YOU support sex workers? It honestly doesn't matter if you answer yes or no to that question btw, your perspective on who is the hero and villain in this story is proof that even if you don't support them, you absolutely sympathise with them/respect them, which is close enough to support. But of course, women good, men bad. At the end of the day, that's what it boils down to doesn't it? Nothing wrong at all with her seeing him as an easy pay cheque. It's all about him and how you believe he t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:14 AM
2

I’ve long since pondered why men have a more natural ability to look beyond (or behind) their conscious thought and analyse their instinctive behaviours, but women don’t. It’s interesting. You’ll find that men tend to be more stern believers in nature and women in nurture. Why this is, I’m not entirely sure. As a side note, pleased to make your acquaintance, you were one of the posters whose comments I looked forward to most when I was lurking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 07:58 AM
5

You're probably being sarcastic, but indeed, lucky you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:54 AM
7

She is likely to lose attraction for you. Some women won't, some will, most likely, most will. But it isn't worth taking the risk, cry to your male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:49 AM
8

Protecting pussy power isn't a conscious thought. You have a biological drive to protect the value of the only thing you have that can control men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:21 AM
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Hmm, not sure there's a direct equivalent for men. Maybe something like guys would have sex with the town-bike but won't seriously date her. But, we all know men pick and choose. I'm highlighting that women pick and choose also. I'm highlighting that women have their standards too that they won't budge from, but they will expect you to budge from yours. I'm warning men what the consequences will be if they go against one of these rigid standards that women have set for men. I'm not saying men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:15 AM
3

Yes I mind. I find it hard to believe you post here and have never seen a single 80/20 study.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:07 AM
8

There is no difference, men are just not allowed to have standards. That's why as fucked up as it sounds, I constantly remind men to just worry about themselves, because women definitely only worry about themselves. You don't have the luxury as a man to be overly sympathetic when women seriously do not compromise on any of the things they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:06 AM
2

The stats are out there for you, your opinion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:00 AM
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Men are not allowed to have standards, women see it as discrimination. This is just something men have to accept, stating your standards outright will offend women. They do not notice this hypocrisy, whether them being oblivious to it is due to nature or nurture we'll never truly know. Men who use sex workers = bad, red flag Women who fuck 100 chads = good, green flag Accept it shitlord.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:57 AM
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So you support sex workers with caveats, but you do not support/or would not date a man who uses them. So basically what I just said in my first post. I just want and need men to read my post, and then yours which serves as confirmation for what I just said. The reality is, you support sex workers because the overall feminine narrative in society today is to support female promiscuity. There are no caveats however when it comes to their customers (the men), you just don't respect them at all, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:45 AM
2

Do you support sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:18 AM
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For some men in this current sexual market where the price of vagina is overinflated (and I don't mean monetarily), sex workers might the only option. Only 10-20% of men are getting all of the play, the rest are getting play, but rarely, if ever. The problem is, women support sex workers, but they do not support or respect the men that use sex workers because on some level it communicates to women that you are of lower value as you needed to PAY for it. "A desirable man wouldn't need to do that"…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 04:56 AM
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If as a man you open up to a woman, be prepared for consequences, you should know better. Learn from other men who have made that stupid mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 04:38 AM
2

Ask any man you know and they will know at least one man who has been through one of those things. Hell, they've probably been through it themselves. It's pretty common of women to do those things, especially these days. I am allowed to identify as blue pill as these days it's acceptable to identify as whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:36 PM
1

What do you suggest a man to do to avoid a dead bedroom situation? What do you think causes it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:19 PM
2

Yes, I understand. We are in a decline. I'm going to get mine anyway. I'd rather get mine and be the bad guy, than be the good guy and get nothing at all. Also don't minimize the impact of women completely disregarding men's feelings when they use them for dates or friendzone them and use them for time and attention. I'm not an exception, I'm literally playing by the same rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:04 PM
1

These days you can identify as anything you want, so I identify as blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:48 PM
1

You're an older woman, so you're likely more jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:36 PM
2

It's quite simple. Whether women are conscious or not of how they approach dating isn't important, the fact of the matter is, women are very self-serving. They are out for their interest, as they should be. They'll hide all manner of details about themselves to secure a relationship, or use men for their own benefit (foodie dates, free drinks, friendzoning guys and using them for emotional support and attention etc.). I am simply applying the exact same approach. I look out for my best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:25 PM
2

I'm getting what I want out of this game, so how exactly am I a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:12 PM
2

Don't hate the player, hate the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:06 PM
2

No, I'm not taking one for the team. I'll wait for women to take the lead here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:04 PM
1

Sure, and that would be for similar reasons. The guy made her position feel too safe, that isn't to say you should be threatening her or anything like that, but women have to work for your affection from time to time to remain attracted. You can never make it too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:03 PM
2

I am having fun, I'm having regular sex as I said earlier. I wish other men would see the light, perhaps we wouldn't have a growing incel community then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:01 PM
2

But you used it as an insult on me, so surely there's something wrong with them? Let women speak enough and they'll eventually tell on themselves. You immediately defaulted to insulting me by alluding to the fact that I'm a virgin, which deep down shows that you do not have much respect for male virgins. But I already knew that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:59 PM
2

It's unfortunate, but that's the reality. There's a reason the dead bedrooms almost always start during a marriage. Her position is safe, she's secure. When she's secure, she doesn't have to fight for your affection anymore. When she doesn't have to fight for your affection anymore, her attraction dwindles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:57 PM
2

I was just saying it's not that hard. And that's where you are sadly mistaken. It's extremely hard. This is not your fault. You're just not a man, and you will never understand what it takes to get laid as a man. Stop trying to guilt trip me, I do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:55 PM
2

Any guy in a dead bedroom should probably look at himself and find out where he stepped wrong, because somewhere along the way, he made her feel like her position was too safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:46 PM
2

There's a science to getting women as a man and you haven't studied it. It's very good that you can live in lalaland and believe in a just-world where the guy that comes out and says outright that he just wants sex to women gets what he wants, but that's not the real world for men. As I said, even if she's on-board with JUST sex, you cannot say it outright, she'll feel like a whore and block you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:40 PM
1

You hurt my feelings a little bit. All due respect, I don't care that you're bi and that you prefer to date women. You haven't dated women as a man so you have no idea what it takes to close the deal. Like I said, I'm not lying, I'm simply not revealing my true intentions. I'm not telling them I want a relationship, I'm not telling them I just want sex. I'm keeping it completely ambiguous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:32 PM
1

Hmm, sounds like an insult. What's wrong with male virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:27 PM
1

Well, none of the women I've dated have cared. If some women out there care, more power to them, I'm sure there's a virgin out there somewhere for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:15 PM
2

I mean, that's the point isn't it? It gets me regular sex, so I'm going to keep doing it. You're not a man, you have no idea what it takes to get regular sex, and that's fine, but you can't give me pointers, advice or alternative ways to do things. We're not playing this game of life on the same difficulty setting. Women don't really care to ask about my sexual history, it's not on the list of things they care about. If they are interested I'll gladly let them know however.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:11 PM
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You're a woman, so you can't and won't understand. Women want to reserve the right to disqualify you. I literally just said what happens when you are outright honest with women about your intentions, they do not like it. In fact, they will want you to be outright honest just so they can eliminate you from their list of options. Women are out for themselves, and I'm out for myself. Do they care about my needs and desires? No, they care about their own. They want their relationship and they will d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:04 PM
3

I wish that was the case too, but it isn't. We don't live in a perfect world. Women are playing a very selfish game out here, and if you don't play the same game you'll be a made a fool of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:41 PM
0

If she wanted to be exclusive, I would still have sex with her as long as I could until she decided enough was enough and walked away. You have to be somewhat selfish with your wants and needs as a man, because women themselves are equally selfish, as they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:33 PM
3

In order to keep a roster of women for regular sex, why else? As a man you need to do this. You aren't going to feel smitten by all of the women if you're spinning plates, you'll be iffy about some, and maybe more attracted to others and you'd be a fool to shrink your roster when women are as flaky and inconsistent as they are. Unfortunately you cannot be honest with women. Women want to retain the ability to disqualify you. I've tested this, I've told a woman outright that I only wanted sex and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:11 PM
6

I can assure you, men in the real world do care about N-count. And if they tell you they don't, it's to keep you happy so they can have sex with you. Women really do not understand how men REALLY feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:08 PM
3

He should absolutely feel disgusted by her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:07 PM
1

Hopefully there are some genuinely insightful replies to help men out here. It would be nice to see the women put themselves in a man’s shoes where the onus is on you to go out there, brave it out and risk rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:27 AM
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That's the problem, they likely aren't. I've observed the nerdy girls, popular girls, larger girls, thinner girls you name it, go after the SAME type of guys for my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:29 PM
1

I mean yeah, it’s absolutely not up for debate. Women do feel entitled to a man’s time and nobody accuses them of entitlement. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a man feeling entitled to sex if women are going to continue to feel entitled to attention. Which they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:19 PM
2

Not many at all. The effect this has on the dating market is a bit of a domino, women's standard of living goes up, the guys they want to date seriously then have to match this level, the guys who can match this level are few in number, and this leads to unhappier women as their hypergamy cannot be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:52 PM
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I always find this amusing, namely because women themselves feel incredibly entitled to a man's time and attention and would feel very slighted if they didn't get it. Picture this common scenario: a woman coming over to a man's spot, they're hanging out, about to have sex and she isn't feeling it. He has to accept that and rightfully so. However, if this man was to tell the woman to go home because he isn't willing to give her free time and his attention for nothing in return she would be very h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:45 PM
2

It usually shows that she's hungry for attention and obsessive which isn't a good mix for a stable woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:33 PM
1

Agreed 100%. Women would collectively lose their shit if men decided that for whatever reason they wouldn't buy an engagement ring for her because patriarchy or, they won't get on one knee to propose, or, they don't want a wedding ceremony and a reception will do. Women essentially want their benefits and want to make theirs borderline non-negotiable, but men's benefits should be up for debate? No. Men need to grow a backbone, if she doesn't take your second name, then there's no engagement ring…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:30 PM
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