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glintglib/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 09:48 PM
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I agree with this as someone who has been skinny and also buffed at various times over the years. Absolutely noticed a difference in how I got treated (both in a relationship and out of one). When I packed on the weight women made more effort, when I was skinny they were low effort and I found many dull and to add another perspective...the petite/slender/skinny women were typically the more boring ones, average build women less so and chubby/overweight women less so again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:13 PM
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This is definitely a factor for some women. Over the years I have heard this from some women who admitted to doing all the freaky stuff with no strings attached guys vs their LTRs because they didn't want to look like that's sort of girl to them. I'd wager their bfs & husband would have loved them to be a freak in the sheets. I personally think it's a crappy outcome that the guys who love and care for them the most and will be there for bad times don't get their partners sexual best. I do think …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:45 AM
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I agree, this has been my observations of guy's expereiences and women's reactions over the years. The higher up on the dating heirarchy for her you are and also how macho/blokey you are the more tolerance the women will have for vulnerabilty without it damaging her opinion of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:21 AM
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This. All the guys I knew who were fukboys had no problem finding LTRs or a wife. In most cases they dated wholesome family oriented non party type women and these women knew they had a lot of fun when single but didn't know much in the way of specifics. The fact that the guys were men in demand by lots of women + good looking/macho was enough to attract them and give him a chance and make them feel special that he was now committing to her over dozens that came before her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:54 AM
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What counts more from a sex/dating perspective is the ratio of males/females born or in the prime marriage years, rather the % of the total population. Women live longer than men and there is a lot more old age single women, but from a sex perspective they should be exluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:39 AM
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I was like this when I had low testosterone levels. Only a fraction of women triggered the "amazing physically and emotionally" threshold for me to really desire them. When they dont feel the same, its hits hard to get over and as you recognise your desperation will easily put them off. At least you are self aware, so thats a good start to recognise when to dial your eagerness back. You also got to try to get out more socially so those ladies are not a once a 2 yr event.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:15 AM
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Lots of post divorce middle aged women are on the apps and still the same (especially if they are still in shape) except the handbrake here is not kids but menopause. Many will then stay single than settle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:32 AM
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as a guy that used to be skinny, with average face, having that body type is a total boat anchor when it comes to dating. Majority of skinny/petite women do not embrace dating their equivalent man. Your skinny friend needs to change. Its not just being overweight that diminishes your chances, and at least at the overweight end of the spectrum there are plenyy of overweight women to date, but most of my chubby/chunky friends did not want to date their equivalent, though in the end most did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:45 PM
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I agree. I routinely find my female friends over the years downplay the guys they hook up with. "Its not like Im going for george clooney or brad pitt lookalikes" or "its not like Im going for male models" (though a number of the guys they do casual with could easily model in a Target catalogue), They routinely go for guys hotter than they can get for a LTR, because they know they have a ton of options when it comes to NSA, but because of some pyschological, or lifestyle shortcoming the guy has …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:49 PM
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I have had a few women over the years say the exact same. One worded it 'eww I dont want the fish john west rejects guy'. While most women wont come out and say it, I feel the sentiment is fairly widespread as the opposite is very much seen in what women go for. They want to win out over the guys that other women want,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:48 PM
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A friend of mine's brother was a very good guy, smart and confident/arrogant and could/would get sex any night of the week he went out if he was in the mood. It was so easy for him, he would ramp up the arsehole behaviour and do things like the OP, simply for the challange and to test women's self respect. He never targeted damaged or low self esteem women, just whoever he wanted to shag, and like the OP numerous times would get told by women to get lost, but more often then not they would sleep…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:10 AM
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Exactly. Sure some dont mind dating their equivalent but most I've observed over the years prefer otherwise. They have the same attraction triggers as their outgoing friends, and like you said want to date up and 'want an outgoing guy to bring them out of their shell and make their life more exciting'. No women has tolerance for being a mentor/lifestyle planner partner for a shy, nerdy guy expecting that from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:47 AM
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spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:27 AM
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I get that there us a reluctance to get married but that should not chop out so many men from short term BF/GF relationships or even longer term defacto relationships where couples live together but just dont get married like in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:44 AM
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On one forum on here someone posted a study on dating and body types (I dont know how comprehensive it was) and top of the rankings was slightly overweight men (ie beefy build guys) and bottom of the rankings (2 levels below obese women) was underweight men. This matches up with my observations in the cities I lived in as well. Skinny guys (with hadsome faces) really only appeal to teen/early 20s girls. The older women get the more they seek out more masculine physically dominant men, especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:56 AM
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PW is no way is skinny, he is lean. Its not the actual weight that makes you skinny, but your frame. Skinny is ectomorph build with ribs showing, collar bone and hip bone sticking out, boney wrists. Skinny from a dating perspective is poison...if you're a male. My sister who was one step up from anorexic had no problems finding guys to chase after her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:38 AM
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I find that figure too low too. A bit over half of my female friends were into casual sex/flings/STRs. Some over numerous years some for brief spells. Most women spend most of their life in LTRs so at any point in time if you randomly survey them they are likely to be in a relationship. It doesnt mean in the times between relationships which might only be 2-3 mths, she didnt do hookups. 9% is a snaphot in time, but it doesnt mean the ones in relationships didnt do or wouldnt do it when single. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:45 AM
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Sheesh went from 'that's good to hear' to finish up bleak with your last sentence. From 100 to 0, that sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:20 AM
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Its not quite so clear cut. When my T levels were low I was still a horny guy, but my game & assertiveness were low and anxiousness high. On TRT my libido was higher but not significiantly, but the boost in energy/mojo/motivation was very welcome. Likewise there are still plenty of guys on TRT who complain of libido/erection issues who have not got their full hormones dialled in properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 03:54 AM
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Thats my take on the topic as well. All my mates who did well with women (from the HVM to the charismatic struggling rough aroung the edges ones) had no problem getting girlfriends when they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:37 AM
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same experience here when I did look transformations, though because of my experiences in being treated very differently based on my looks, I try not to treat fat women much different from slim ones in day to day interactions though I am not dating them. Fat/beefy women were always the more friendlier, its the average build, and slim/petite women that had the more selective personalities based on my size.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:46 PM
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I think NYC has one of the best cities when it comes to F:M ratios. Lots of young single women flock to the big apple for excitment. Way better for you nerdy cousin to live there than in SF where the ratio is other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:09 AM
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75% of men 'regardless of height' are married by their forties.... I wouldn't necessarily say height was equally distributed in marriages. Studies on men with low GH show they marry less, have less chidren if they do, have less relationships. A number (sure not all) of short guys (anglo not the ethnic ones) I've known over the years have struggled and did eventually get a GF but they had to make a compromise imo. A number ended up with single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:18 AM
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with every passing year, the bigger the eeww reaction in her head when he she finds out or suspects. The guys will be stuck in a catch 22 situation unless he lies. Some women (typically the more attractive ones with pleny of options) are put off if a guy has been single x number fo years without being a virgin, as they just dont get the concept. Majority of women want to snag a guy that's in demand by other women, to make them feel more special. They dont want the rejects.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:45 PM
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Exactly, I know a few very slender/petite women who have never gone to gym, or restrictive diet, do yoga, swim or any exercise, but are lucky to have good genetics in that regard. They do nothing to "deserve" a beefy muscular chad, but many do try to score at that end of the gene pool, just through being lucky with blessed genetics and being in a popular but shrinking subset of the dating pool. If someone is average chubby build and works their butt of in the gym to have a great bikini body then…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:54 AM
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I'd say thats nonsense. Someone posted a study here recently (not sure of its merit) regarding dating success and body type....top rung was slighty overweight/stocky/beefy men, and bottom rung was skinny/underweight men (2 rungs below obese women). Most skinny guys realise by the time they are out of their teens that being skinny and male is not a blessing unlike it is for their skinny/thin sisters. If a guy is slim and mesomorph body type and decent height he'll do alright and being thin wont b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:43 AM
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I had that feeling as well though the commonwelth countries are not far behind on the fat scale either. I lived in 2 cities most of my life, one very fashion concious and the other less so with residents heaftier in size. With That second city it was very obvious slim/skinny/petite plain janes and butterface women were sort after and they had no trouble landing decent looking/decent career men, regardless of their personality. This was also reflected online in that city with the women classifyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:46 AM
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She said she was young, so I reckon it's a safe bet that most young people don't care if they know it's just a fling or short term relationship, but will be less embracing of that when it comes to marriage. Most of the players I knew loved outgoing DTF women but they didn't marry that type
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:19 AM
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"dating around" is also a nice euphemism for 'hooking up' that lots of women use. Not necessarily every guy they go on a date with, but the ones that they have 'great chemisty' with or they were in a yolo mood. If I heard a woman use that term, I would assume, she is going out on dates with different guys and not ending up in bed wirth all but is not going without sex also on those she fancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:14 PM
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My experience as well. The majority of the promiscuous women Ive known over the years are still picky. They might like to make out they are not picky becuase they are not sleeping with 'male models' but they regularly are hooking up with guys from what Ive seen or heard about that are better then they would get for a commited LTR with. Many decent looking guys I know have a threshold of 'dont be fat' if the girl is throwing out very obvious IOIs. Many DTF women will be fine going without for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:14 PM
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I agree growing uo and watching the players I knew over the years. the party dudes who were into drugs & booze and women tended to end up with pretty but skanky types, also need to be clear there is a difference between flings, STRs and LTRs too in terms of partnering up. The guys who liked to rackup notches but who focused on their careers or passions majorly did not end up with DTF club/bar/gig girls for serious relationships. The women tended to be traditional family orientated and knew the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:59 PM
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this. A lot of women use it selectively and then shut it down when they have someone (fling) otherwise they get inundated (hundreds to 1000+). The majority of women I know (Gen x age bracket) used it for for for both casaul sex and LTRs. Early on post divorce or when heart broken after a realtionship didnt work out they would be just looking for fun and those phases was when they loved OLD but when it was when they were looking for something serious and it kept not working out that they would ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:38 PM
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Yep...changed circustances changes people's priorities (the woman packed on weight or developed health/emotional issues or financial troubles or beame a single mom) or attraction (the friend had a physical or career transformation)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:59 PM
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And a part of this problem now is that many women consider a slim woman as above average, when that was simply the norm back a few generations ago, and many average guys would be very happy with an average slim girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:24 AM
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this is also a factor. I had a number of friends like you who were not bad looking guys (7-8) and would have very pretty girlfriends but when single would sleep with numerous very ordinay women, simply because those women made it obvious they were up for action with them, and the guys were horny. A number of times these women were happy to stay on as zero demand, do anything FWBs. It distorts the market..the casual sex market directly and dating market indirectly as many of these women will be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:52 AM
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IDK. Yeh I've known a few with big insecurities and from convos with them it ofen went back to incidents in their teens. Do you know many beautiful women like this. I can only think of a few and they were aloof and didnt have much of social life and this was pre-tinder which now allows shy no social life women to let their fingers do the walking from the comfort of their sofa. I used to go to a lot of parties when i was younger and no pretty women there would be left alone, no way. You would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:22 AM
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Right. Numerous cute, very pretty women I've known will make out that they are not pretty, and hate their figure and wish they had this celeb's boobs, or hips or waist or butt or nose or hair or eyes, etc. Often I would think it was said just to fit in with the other less attractive women (yes I'm a victim of having to live up to men's beauty expectations too), because for the most part these women did not date/hookup with men who were not handsome or rugged, and as you say if they if they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:03 AM
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So is there an opposite situation when it comes M:F ratio on dating sites for black/Poc singles in the US and there are much less men and in that circumstance I cant see how racism is over-riding those POC men's preferences unless they are biased against women of their own race and holding out to date caucasian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:49 AM
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Yes, exactly. lol but also annoying if you are an ectomorph build guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:57 PM
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I agree with you. Women over 30 are much more into masculine (rugged, burly, blokey) men and I thought it was becasue they felt less feminine/cute so tried to offset it more by going for more masculine men (based on a few conversations of women). Another aspect is these guys probably have a look that tends to better managerial promotion and have an idealised good strong father figure look/persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:27 AM
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But this view of themselves is one conconcocted in their mind. I get it that they are not dainty but long leggy look is a huge turn on for a decent subset of men. If they struggled to get any attention from men and were single for long periods and happy to go out on dates with any guy that asked them out it would be different. I've known a few tall elegant women who had insecurities over their height (developed during their teens) but these women were pretty and definitely did not struggle to fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:20 AM
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I saw some study someone had posted on body type and success in dating/attraction, and the top one was 'male slightly overweight' - ie the beefy look, and the least successful body type was 'male underweight', so you definitely ended up at the right end of the BMI spectrum and being tall is the double bonus. You need to be more alert to the IOIs and just make small talk and things will snowball from there if the woman is into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:38 PM
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So often on reddit things are taken to extremes, like here, if the guy is not attractive by default he is ugly, with no spectrum in between. Also often I'll find people that date above their level facially make up for it with a solid/fit/tall physique which young guys often discount when it comes to other guys (but much less so for a female) because they are not evaluating the same as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:42 PM
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or the ones on holidays dont count, and the ones when I was drunk dont count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:17 PM
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Don't discount the validation they get from fcking a good looking man. As I saw in some recent video post from a woman... Having sex with a less than desirable man makes her question her self worth. Older woman may appreciate a better lover, but young woman for hookup that's less of a priority imo Pretty much all woman l know who did lots of casual sex complained about most of it being crappy or guys being jerks, but they went back to the well plenty the they probably preferred the better ones s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 08:26 AM
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I think another factor is women's higher expectations, especially those with university degrees and there are a lot more of them around now. Ive heard from more than one variation of ...Ive got the great career, ive got the great car, Ive got the great appartment, Ive got great friends, I deserve a great guy. I also think hookup culture is more prevelant now and more socially acceptable for women now between serious BFs and I reckon it raises the bar on their expectations as many shag guys bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:15 AM
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I've picked on this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:04 AM
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I've seen this at a few places though not quite as extreme as this. Beautiful people get an arm chair ride in life, so probably get a happier disposition as a result. It sucks, and I have found a number of them are a unaware of the advantages they have. Like the OP I have tended to find really beautiful women have been nicer to me than those a bit above average as a % of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:58 PM
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One thing Ive learned over the years is that women/female friends dont want advice they just want you to empathize with their issues/predicaments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:00 AM
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Yes, I've heard this from women, and it is definitely a factor in the appeal for the dad bod + throw in the fact that so many women who have chunked up a bit like the fact that the dad bod partner takes the pressure off them to have a gym fit bod. Probably a lot of young guys are in disbeleif that a dad bod would have any appeal for women, becuase they are taking the perspective from the young women their own age. Women say 29up change their perspective. Some guy here recently posted a study don…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:38 PM
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https://www.worldation.com/opinions/george-costanzas-girlfriends-now/ I enjoyed seeing him end up with good looking GFs from the underdog perspecive + you knew he would fuck it up somehow more than likely, but back in the 90s they were taking liberties with George getting together with numerous of these women, but Constanza in 2022, no way except maybe 2 or 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:53 AM
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I've known a few who wanted dominant men, but when they get older or the passion wears off complain that they are controlling (IE mentally abusive)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:08 PM
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I don't think snarky fits in with those others imo. I personally cant stand snarkiness as there is typically an underlying meanness/resentment/disrespect to it delivered in a passive aggressive manner. Maybe I'm just relating to the wrong people or exes when the relationship was on the downslope
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:43 AM
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Just using a skin moisturizer though is not going to make much difference to the average bloke. It might show some benefits in later years but will hardly make a dint in his prospects. Probably quite a few guys do it and its not obvious and if it was I'd say less would do for the reasons mentioned by the OP. A healthy diet will probably be as good or better. Skillful make up application tops it by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:58 AM
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yeh a lot of general description types on here is open to interpretation for sure. Roided beast type is getting kind of extreme imo. The no neck red faced, bulging veins, built like a refrigerator men is a smaller subset for sure and wont appeal to most women at that extreme end of the scale. A lot of guys use juice but don't come off as the stereotype gearhead because they keep doses modest and don't live for the gym. A lot of rugby players would be on the juice like the old days if they could.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:11 AM
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A lot of women love the bouncer build guys. At the gyms I've trained at I've seen some of the GFs of the big brute guys and they are great/sexy/pretty and typically petite. Young women like the pretty boys but as women get older..for many masculinity rocks. Likewise for men, many will take a slender/petite/feminine physique girl over a pretty face. I guess 3% in a club or online is not too bad if you're a sure fire hit with them, the sheer numbers there will provide, but less so say at a party. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:02 AM
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If you limit the big brute to ogre then yeah its going to be a small subset but if its expanded so the guy is not ugly and just a big beefy thick neck big armed broad shouldered type (ie rugby player type) then these guys will appeal to way more than 3% especially for women mid 20s up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:42 AM
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true but lots of women also getting fatter, so the competition for the slim ones somewhat negates the increase in bigger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:36 AM
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He had the last 25 yrs to explore his options but didnt seem to have any (or else they flew over his head) but in that movie within the space of a few months gets 4 chances to get laid, with one of them being a sweet goofy DTF Elizabeth Banks. She was a bit intimidating & bewildering given his lack of experience but she would have soo much fun while it lasted. Lots of struggling guys end up with single moms irl as these women when they hit their late 30s and their sex appeal fading do start to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:30 AM
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lol. yep its as simple as that. Probably 100:1 ratio female to male sex workers for the same reason, and most of those male pros are are going to be servicing gays than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:25 AM
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I agree but it could extend to other things in the relationship. You don't like her in-laws but you put up going to see them for her sake, you don't like going to this particular restaurant or holiday location but you go for the sake that it makes her happy and she will get stroppy with you for days/weeks, if you don't. You not doing that is seen as selfish. Compromise and making sacrifices for the sake of your partner will be seen by many as obligations of a good partner, as long as its a two w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:14 AM
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That scenario in that other linked post I have heard before from women I've known + been there. The hamstering from other posters on that thread to justify the flip flop depending on who the guy is. The guy that she wants to marry she expects to respect her but she is happy to give out buttsex and 3ways to a bunch of other casual guys (a number who could well not have respected her) but she says her fiancé wanting it is degrading. In such a scenario you split up with her and you can bet your boo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:06 PM
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I came to that conclusion some time ago, even with friendships where I was no way an orbiter I always found I had to put in more effort to keep the friendship going as well as organizing activities. I found if the woman is proactive she typically wanted more than a friendship, otherwise it seemed I was more an acquaintance (even though some assured me I was a good friend) or back up friend to some of these women. When I pulled back on the effort the friendships (most not all) faded.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:21 AM
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Exactly, but many women will equate all stranger approaches with their worst ones - some drunken obnoxious yobbo coming on real strong for going back to his place for shag. When looking for someone you need to sift through the good the bad and the ugly though typically the ugly filter themselves out. The people here equating going out to social venues as the equivalent of lots of guys waving dicks in their face as on par with women who go out with mid riff tops, low slung skinny jeans or short s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:04 AM
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Correct. Often women (deliberately?) misinterpret the 80:20 concept by relating it to relationships...ie that the top men cant be in fulltime relationships with four women concurrently (ie harem). Well this is actually possible in terms of FWBs and lots of single moms are doing it, but I (and others I know) viewed it in terms of sex encounters. Most of the women I've known have had hookups between relationships, and while they might spend 90% of their adult life in say 3 serious relationships, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:34 PM
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It is seen different, not just me but lots of men would see it different as well and I think some of it stems from traditional convention (guys typically wont feel used after a ONS) but also from the act..men entering/depositing, women receiving. One guy in a house servicing 10 cheerleaders, would be more surreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:47 AM
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I believe they were perfectly happy with this arrangement because If they are in a relationship where the guy goes close to giving her the tingles like you did then they will probably still feel okay about it. I know a few women like this now well in their 40s who were like this (I've known them many yrs or they told me about what they were like) who are now single and when they speak about those days are really bitter about them, but I feel they reinterpret the times from a different perspectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:23 AM
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I read another story on reddit of another girl who was doing similar at university except I gather was not simping for a specific guy but had the hots for all the guys (athletes) in this dorm and was available anytime for any of them to do whatever for free board. Seemed to feel empowered having sex with guys that she wouldnt get a relationship with but was okay with substitute of being the communal cumdumpster, getting off on the submission. I had a coworker (good looking + good build) who alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:38 AM
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The older guy is going to be much less likely to dump his 20 yr younger wife, than the wife of similar age. He's on a good thing, she sexy still at 30, and 40 assuming she didn't let her self go and typically the wives of successful men don't. By the time she hits menopause, the guy's libido is not going to dominate his life anymore and he is really going to struggle to get a replacement that's in her 30s. Women initiate divorce much more than men do, so of the 30% of men that do, I'd say the % …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:43 AM
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At least you have moderated perspective. I bet a lot of women get their info on the RP from women's/feminist leaning articles or blogs on left leaning media sources. I've read numerous posts online from women or young men, talking about the RP and and exaggerate aspects plus they add in a lot of other crap that is not RP (imo), that is more black bill, sperg, incel, MTOW, PUA, right wing philosophy but they like to bundle it all up together because the more negatives helps add to the outrage. i …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:46 AM
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If their best bet for getting dates and a potential relationship is their extended social network then I would have expected they treat those women better than the unknowns on date sites many of whom wont bother to meet them or swipe right on them and none of their other friends will see how they behave poorly with them. Any other women in their social network will pick on them lying and pump n dumping the other female friends or being a jerk to them or being crude and creepy to the other women …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:30 AM
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Correct. Quite a number here think that all hookers/escorts/sugar babies do this work fulltime as their career and are forced into it, or are desperate boke single moms, or have a drug habit. Sure some are like that but also some are doing it on the side to upgrade their lifestyle, or buy a property or put themselves through university.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:31 AM
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Same. The hottest woman I've been with was slender modelesque, young Vera Faminga look alike with a cool, sweet, intelligent, fun personality and the sex was great. Would have been great if she a gf or fwb but the opportunity would not have happened otherwise. She had a fulltime job and sex work one day a week was her side gig to help buy a house in the suburb she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:55 AM
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I think the amount women think prostitutes are being sex trafficked or being forced into the business by a violent pimp boyfriend is way over stated. Sure it happens but it is something that is hard to prove in terms of the % of the total paid sex market, and as you say police can easily tack on extra charges or feminists overstate the threat to keep it from being legalized. The trouble is where prostitution is illegal and the industry operates on the sly there is a lot more potential for client…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:46 AM
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I had it happen to me a few times I'd say, but I would not have called it branch swinging as I was not 100% sure the woman was f**king some other new boyfriend guy the following weekend after leaving me, but more a case of being a stepping stone boyfriend for them. I use that term as I was a rebound romance for them...until they got their confidence back, then it was a variation 'sorry this is not working for me anymore'. The women were attractive (more than I expected) and they did break my hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:57 PM
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The number of male prostitutes (making a living not servicing gays) vs the number of the female prostitutes plus also strippers, cam whores, escorts, sugar babies, nude models, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:58 AM
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I don't know if society has changed much in this regard in the last 5-8 yrs and maybe its a case of you are now chasing the slim/slender feminine women in their late 20s now and they have lost their insecurity and have dated around a bit (plus hooked up with hotter guys) and realize there is less of them now and rate themselves a hotter catch than they did when they were younger. EDIT - just read you moved to a new region.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:08 AM
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I agree with what you wrote except last part. He is young and is in peak hormone phase of his life to leverage natural gains from, except he couldn't wait for gym work to pay off and jumped onto gear straight off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:58 AM
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in countries that have a lot of people that are overweight it becomes a factor in evaluating someone's attractiveness which is not unusual aspect but it also distorts what a lot of people (men much more so imo) consider average and hot when rating the opposite sex. A lot of average looking who are slender/skinny/petite women where I live have no shortage of guys hitting on them and can shag or date better looking and/or more accomplished dudes and the advantage gets stronger as they get older an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:39 PM
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You can have both if you're endomorph build. Extreme example but here is a world champion BBer between comps. https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5019/5432017813_2e8a469487.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:28 AM
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In last city I lived I spent times working in a poor and and upper class section of the city and I definitely noticed a contrast. In the upper class burbs the men tended to be more portly/stocky and the women (not post menopause) tended to be slim/in shape. In the poor burbs there were a lot of chubby couples or skinny dude with a fat GF/wife couples. Like the guy above I know more (middle class) couples where the GF/Wife is more overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:16 AM
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Neither are unattractive, but both are in the average looks category (top end of average imo), but I think his point was a lot more men find the average young woman cute compared to how many women will find that guy cute (though I don't think that guy would struggle too much if he had a decent social life).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:20 AM
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I knew a few guys like this, and yeh it was the thrill of doing it and or show off to their mates. They weren't out to traumatize the woman in question but rather get a reaction, hopefully favorable but even if they got a nasty reaction back they would laugh it off. Getting a cocky fun reaction was what they really wanted which they could try and use to start up chat up session with. I'd hear stories of it working and seen it work a few times (not daytime but at night out in the club district). …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:11 AM
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More males than females are born so in the prime dating/relationship years there are going to be more men but because women live longer it balances out when you view the population as a whole. That still doesn't explain that significant % discrepancy between the sexes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:44 AM
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true. niches is not just sex. Could be a mad fan of jigsaw puzzles looking for someone to share the passion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:59 PM
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Really I thought a place like Fetlife was way skewed - too many kinky men and way not enough kinky women. (well it was like that in my city)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:11 AM
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Pretty much all of the late 30s up women I know who are single and doing online dating + not XL size and are upfront to an extent on their dating life have hooked up with younger guys (dozen yrs younger). If they have a MILF look they get inundated with hits from younger guys looking for easy, minimal BS, action. I get the impression the sex with juniors don't make them rate themselves as a hot catch as much as the edgy hunky successful guys closer to their age that they have flings with. This d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:54 AM
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my observations over the years tend to back this up. Female friends, friends of friends, female co-workers, when it came to playing cupid, I noticed would tend to set up guys who didn't need any help to meet women (they were doing their friends a favor more). Sometimes they would setup these guys with friends/relatives visiting from out of town for a date knowing it was likely going to be a hookup. The guys who really did need a helping hand with a setup opportunity were overlooked to stumble on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:39 PM
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^ this is why the comment while not a put-down of the guy, its also not exactly seen as praise or something to make the guy feel good about himself....especially for the guys who never get any NSA action. Just because she wants to be long term with the husband guy doesn't mean he is going to get her sexual best or that she is really passionate about him...more so imo the older the woman is when she is going to marry him where 'safe/stable/good dad/good provider/faithful' adjectives are going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:12 AM
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A number of my liberated female friends say the same, but of course its not always an exclusive take one and sacrifice the other, and more often primal attraction wins out (its easier with good looks to get your foot in the door, especially so with online dating), especially when women are younger (say under late 30s) or just out for fun (where validation & turn on from fucking a hot guy for many is going to outweigh 'will this sweet nerdy guy be a demon in the sack).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:00 AM
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this ties in similarly to the appeal of snagging a player as explained to me by a few women, but a lot of women refuse to see it as a big factor in why a man whore is considered more special than his female counterpart. The women who is a GF of a player will see herself as winning him over and beating out all the other women who came before her + those currently vying for his attention. She feels more special that the man in demand is commiting to her. The guy who is now BF of a girl who numerou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 02:17 AM
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I think the real risk for a guy marrying a low count/virgin good girl comes when she is older (say late 20s up) and has been single for long periods or always single, then there is the real risk of her having low libido or hangups over sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 01:56 AM
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There are guys on there for either hookup sex or a girlfriend or for both (fun for a bit then a girlfriend). Lots of guys will drop their standards for sex and if the woman has her life together and a cool personality and has not been dating around on there for years and is not trying to pick fuckbois or guys out of her league then plenty of guys will be happy to stick around for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 05:07 AM
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yep exactly and smash the enthusiasm of it cash cows (men). I thought I remember reading that the F:M numbers on Ashley Madison when it got hacked was something like 1:40 after stripping out fake accounts & old dead accounts. Tinder is going to be out of whack too, and that pushes the competition in women's favor even more than men's regular propensity to drop standards for nookie combined with human nature to pick the best for yourself from a heap of eager options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:39 AM
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I don't know how you know those percentages so precisely as I dont think tinder would be keen to publish it and kill off the enthusiasm from men (its cash cows). For sure though there is a significant user imbalance which just magnifies women's hypergamy when it comes to men and hookups even more. Any woman in shape who has a social life will get plenty of opportunities without an app. I don't know if you will ever know the truth as women will be very cagey about their hookups and you wont get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:25 AM
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I agree it definitely doesn't, and maybe not ideal turn of phrase. Beefy, in terms that say the guy has a mesomorph build and has put on 20kg but its distributed all over and not just on his gut. If naked he might look a bit pudgy but not when dressed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:09 PM
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in a lot of cases, yes they are. often a now beefy but former chad (or still has it in attitude) who is now out of shape. Still masculine, and still does well with picking up women (esp late 20s up) but because he has the dad bod, the women feel it takes the pressure off them getting a bit pudgy or for when they get a mom bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:20 PM
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A toned mesomorph or endomorph physique guy will look good, a lot less so for the low muscle, low fat, ectomorph dude with baby face (lower testosterone/GH). He wont get taken as seriously by many women. A negative in his 20s but will help in 30s up but he needs to be seen as lean/toned and not skinny/thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:40 AM
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Unfortunately that's the way it is. I grew up skinny and so was my sister (just a step up from the anorexic look), but she left me in the dust when it came to dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:33 AM
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oblivious to the fact that their looks are the key to their success in dating. So many of these men claim their self improvement, and their hard work is what made them Chads. I've known a number fo guys with this attitude > 'its because they try harder and or have better rapport with women'. In most cases I didn't think they were oblivious but rather tried to promote their success as being totally due to their effort & talent & confidence rather than their blessed genetics, because it seems more…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 04:50 AM
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There are stacks of posts on the AskMen forum that talk about guys missing opportunities with women because the girl didn't make it obvious enough. Of course you don't know if these are half decent looking guys who are just young & naïve & starting out with low confidence. I think lots of guys dont have inflated egos and in fact dont put in a lot of effort without getting some decent IOIs back. For sure there are guys out there with inflated sense of self and I'd say it would have been a positiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 04:40 AM
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Yikes. It cant be that dismal for young dudes....especially in such an environment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:43 AM
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Less than 1%, that is very low side effect level. I'd don't get why it is not being released with warnings, like the vast majority of drugs do. A lot of men would take greater interest in contraception if they had another option over condom with a very low side effect rate (its not like the pill doesn't come with side effects). There would be numerous women who would not be entirely happy with a new male contraceptive that would be hidden from sight and would put the determination of contracepti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:09 AM
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I know that if the girlfriend discovered that her boyfriend in his past had dated a girl in her teens when he was say 7+ yrs older if would freak out a lot of them. Traumatized is not the word I would use though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:39 PM
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Maybe he had 6 key factors that he wanted in his fiancé and you tick off 5 but not the 'best ever sex' one, and none his his exes ever had all 6. Does he break up with you and keep searching for the 6 out of 6 woman. With sex at least you can learn to become better or do kinkier things to please, but getting a bigger dick or being able to have sex daily is just not feasible for some. I totally get wanting to be each others best ever in every aspect but its not like there is this unending string …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:19 PM
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Correct. Some people have this delusion that whatever partner they are currently with is going to be the best when it comes to sex and vice versa, which is a bit ridiculous to think that there is this unending string of better sex and better partners with each relationship/hookup throughout your/her life, especially when one of you has been with many. I reckon this is a fairly significant aspect for lots of men as to why they are not so crazy about setting down with a women who has 'dated around…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:30 PM
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IDK. Its not like birth control is real tricky or non university educated young women are dumb (but some maybe not good at longer term planning outlook). Some I guess are not overly ambitious and happy to be a young mom to have some purpose, some I suspect get pregnant to a guy they want to lock in, some just cant bring themselves to have an abortion. The fall back option of big daddy govt I suspect helps when it comes to the really poor ones though we cant really go back to the old days of no s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 05:41 AM
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I don't look down on single mothers they way a lot of RP guys do, but I knew quite a number that would get pregnant to guys they were in STRs/FWBs/poor quality BFs with, that I thought were bad decision to go ahead with pregnancy with. Because I'm non religious and male I put more of the onus on the decision to proceed with a baby with the mother - she is the ultimate decider even if says no. I do realize there are single moms out there who are because their BF cheated and they booted him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 05:28 AM
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Just compare the number of female sex workers with male sex workers (those who service women not gays). 100+:1 ??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:39 AM
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I think this happens a lot with lower income women in particular, whether consciously or not. You don't see too many university qualified women as (young or with young kids from a short term or fling relationship) single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:35 AM
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I'd say many of the guys that knocked up women had no intention of sticking around longterm and raising a family with the future single mom. I doubt the majority talked the woman into getting pregnant then changed their mind. I don't think most would be happy abandoning the embryo/baby/young child but really didn't plan or want on having a child with Ms good for the short term not for the longterm, but couldn't say no to f**king raw and dont want to get locked into a less than ideal relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:30 AM
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"poor average dude" - I don't think most poor average dudes are holding out for a hottie, many would be fine with a poor, average (4-6) not overweight girl who was keen for them. Slim/in shape a couple of generations ago was average, the trouble is now its seem by many (both sexes) as a hotter catch when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:09 AM
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i absolutely believe it is this in a lot of cases. Neither parent doesn't what to shine a spotlight on the uncomfortable truths in their relationship or admit they are unhappy after getting married/babies or settled or feel they got settled for or are getting manipulated or ignored red flags or were desperate, so on, especially to their kids. The mothers BFF will know and some blue pill guys will open up to their single friends when they are older more cynical but many wont as they don't want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:50 AM
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Many women view men's perspective from those guy's perspective - the men they throw out the welcome mat for straight off. A few of my female friends will complain how guys have the advantage in the dating market and getting a GF is like picking fruit from a tree. These women are Gen-x and were reasonably attractive but their potency in the dating scene has faded somewhat + they want a better catch guy and no surprise he has options so those guys bounce when they see a red flag or are vague on lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:49 AM
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Conversely an unattractive woman, can train hard, dress well and still the number one factor men will appraise is her attractiveness. As looks matter; and generally a woman’s looks only go one way with age. I know a few 'butter face' women at my gym who get hit on and same (petite but very plain) outside gym who have no problems getting guys (either short term or longer term) Younger people value facial looks over physique when its comes to attraction but as people get older it flips. A UK surve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:23 PM
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It often starts out well but fades when the guy is on the hook
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:23 AM
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No they wouldn't and many won't dare voice their opinion on it except maybe anonymously on the www. In the case of this show however imo its more like AF/AB imo. Her husband is hardly a case of settling. He is an investment banker (but they made him one that works for good causes lol), bought a mansion in CT, is well connected in the business world, and is good looking with a good bod. In this show she hit the jackpot but also misses going out clubbing with her slooty friend and being bent over …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:20 AM
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shocked to find out that not only are they the only person I'm actively talking to, but that they're the first/only match I've gotten in months they don't want the fish John (or Jane in this case) West rejects. For sure your admission is getting you downgraded in their eyes for not being a man in demand....the opposite scenario of some of the fuckboys they would hooked up with which would make you seem more outside the norm compared to those guys in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:47 AM
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Maybe the women didnt start out that way at the beginning of the relationship. I've had some GFs start to put on weight within a month. Also when it comes to skinny guys they are not exactly a smash hit on the dating market and have reduced options at their own end of the gene pool, so can often end up with chubby women not necessarily because they get turned on having a woman bigger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:49 AM
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both sexes have issues with this but the greater impediment to this pairing is women's reluctance to date down status & $ wise and not a man who has a woman with a good career (and doesn't rub it in his face when they have arguments)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:57 PM
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Also a lot of attractive men I know say they find it very hard to get a LTR due to women thinking they’re all players and fuckboy a with zero interest in a LTR 'Very' hard - i'm a bit skeptical on how sincere this is. My friends who were players never had trouble also getting GFs. it was way more on them whether something casual turned into a something more serious. Maybe the girls who fuck within a couple of hrs of meeting the guy out at a bar/club/festival might be a bit regretful of their eag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:47 AM
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Because of the changes in earnings for women many now argue the person that asks the other out is obligated to pay. I don't totally reject this notion, except that it still over whelming put the $ obligation back on the man. There is still a 'traditional times' hangover expectation going on with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:26 PM
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I too found this weird. The US - biggest porn industry - fine with sugar daddying + only fans fans lifestyle, but prostitution if legal will lead to degeneration of society & relationships & exploitation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:21 AM
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The swedish women are chasing the african and arabic immigrants while the swedish men are chasing the asian women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:35 PM
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Correct and this is especially relevant to OLD. Those who swipe on the woman or hit them up online are not the metric to use to define a woman's league as so many guys are happy to have flings or ONS and realize if they drop their standards the more the woman will feel the amazing chemistry and be up for first date sex or she'll be more accepting of having some NSA fling. OLD deceives many even if they have good intentions of not simply being a fun fling for a hot guy and it takes them a while t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:42 PM
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yep and often paid $ in the which I'd suspect much of doesn't get listed on their tax return + they team up with others for reno house flips on weekends. Many make good money these days as more young people flock to university so the numbers left aren't having to under cutting each other for the work + property/infrastructure/renovation boom over the last 20 odd yrs (depending where you live I'd say) has kept them busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:11 AM
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I was a skinny guy for part of my 20s and I used groan when I used to hear this from skinny, petite, slender women I liked, or else they'd say how a big guy would make them feel more girly, feminine or safer, yet these girls were cute and at the cutest they were ever going to be in their life, so don't know how they are coping in their 40s if they had that hang-up then. They just wanted to be little spinners for a dominant guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:05 PM
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They might call themselves RP and be familiar with it but they go further than the basic ideology of TRP...imo. RP is imo is as the poster above wrote. To me its more about awareness and not being blue pilled frustrated chump than it is about must hate single moms, must spin plates, must dont get married till your in your 40s and then to a woman in her 20s. How you exploit your advantages after becoming RP and making yourself a more desirable man is another step beyond basic RP imo, and for sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:07 PM
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Monkeys when they swing from branch to branch wont let go of the existing branch till they have a good grasp on the new branch. So when it comes to relationships, it means she will pursue a new relationship with another man while in the current one, so no period of being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:09 AM
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Same here. I have a female friend who has a real negative view of men who say they are RP'd and its because all she knows about TRP she read in female/feminist blogs, YT vids, podcasts or forums, and I've read a couple of femcentric articles on the TRP and they are basically hit prices designed to rev up their female audience (bit click baity) - its branded with misogyny, incels, spinning plates, PUA tactics (like negging & gimmicks), chasing only 18-25s, hatred of sinlge moms, and so on, and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:40 AM
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If he is retiring early 40s then he's done well and could easily spend sometime living in a few countries overseas and see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:56 AM
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I've known a couple a 6ft dudes who still bump up their height with online dating. Its nuts..just to up the ante over the competition. when tall guys lie I dont blame short guys in the least for adding an inch...or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:52 AM
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I think younger women will choose face and older women have preference for physique from what Ive observed. To me average face and tall height is preferable over good looks and average shortish height. Both have benefits for women, but I think the former carries more benefits for career progress and social interactions with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:48 AM
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Ive seen that dynamic with some of my friends relationships (the resentment) after a number years and at that point there is no salvaging the relationship. The girlfriend (pre wife) was never like they were later on otherwise they would have scared only the most non desperate away though there was some desperation with my fiends to be in a relationship and or thinking they wouldn't find another woman they fancied as much. None of these lackluster settled for relationships though started out schm…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:09 PM
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also moody, easily irritated over things he does, puts him down in front of others, passive aggressive behavior with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:19 AM
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I think its men in the first quote pushing for legal prostitution and women in the second quote shaming men who want to pay for sex. Not the same demographic making conflicting statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:27 PM
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or an ugly guy (who’s also probably shit in bed), who wants sex, but pretends to want a relationship Its going make much more sense that the supposed ugly person is going to put more effort into pleasing someone they consider very attractive (relative to them) and where they hit the jackpot with than be a lazy, selfish & rude jerk in bed or on the date and blow their chances of keeping them in their life. Many good looking men or women is going to have a longer check off list + deal breakers lis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:54 AM
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A quick look and I couldn't find which demographic spent the most on cosmetic surgery beyond it being women overwhelmingly. Reddit is going to be youth orientated so skewed. In my county the biggest $ were spent on liposuction, boob jobs (bigger & reduction), botox and face/neck lift. I really do think older women are going to seek out these procedures more than the young ones. The payoff in terms of boosting their looks simply by undoing some aspects of aging is going to be bigger to start with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:08 AM
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This is what women do all the time, at least women those men find attractive. I think the cosmetic beauty industry is funded way more by anti aging procedures for the over 35s then for young young clamoring to be be more beautiful. A few I knew who did were fixed an say their nose and wanted the model look but its not like they were close to ugly prior or had no male attention. the operation was for their reflection in the mirror and not so much to get men to like them. The fish lips look is big…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:17 AM
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That's what I was going to say many will say they are not all that especially in front of other women, false modesty but when out at the club or on Tinder no way are those women picking 3/10 men because they feels there is their league. I suspect a lot of women benchmark themselves to high beauty media standards or their most beautiful friend and results in dissatisfaction but it typically wont translate to them dating down because they genuinely think they are a 3 (just that they wished they we…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:03 AM
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Some of these I dont feel count in terms of prima facie attraction...basically the things you can see (depends on the season too). Item 1 + 2 + 3. Washing hair - a lot of men do that daily as well and I dont consider it an extra beauty routine. Same with item 5. You dont have to use multiple products to keep a clean face. Just cold water goes a long way for skin stimulation and cleaning off daily grime, unless you want to include products to scrub off other beauty products. Item 6 - just one fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:59 AM
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I agree with the OP wrote - a wild phase making men more content to settle down and not be phased so much if the woman he is with also had a wild phase but also with what you wrote. Its the ability to do it that hampers this 'wild phase' CMV from becoming a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:11 AM
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I'm not a fan of the alpha/beta allocation of all males either but it does get used a lot in describing relationship/dating behaviors by many people and it does make it simpler to convey concepts, which don't necessarily apply to all but many still. I know its a power hierarchy thing. As i referenced it in my post from my past observations on I could have replaced the terms A/B with 'most desirable men' vs 'less desirable men' to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:06 AM
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They still have a lot of growing up to do. You can tell by the sheer amount of us who skip classes, get hungover before exams and other dumb shit at parties. There are a lot of young university students who don't do this though, or maybe things have changed since I went to uni or its more a USA things or maybe its not the finance or IT girls (what I did) who live the frat house party girl life then. There are big ranges in maturity levels for those aged 18-25. In a competitive career market like…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:58 AM
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I think people don't get that a man settling isn't going younger, he's going older. That's what I would say the older guy who supposedly cant get a woman at his age and ending up with a younger full of life and no emotional baggage lady is not dropping down in his standards out of desperation, than if he was dating a woman significantly older than him or a lot heavier than him. 23 dating 18 is nothing in terms of age gap (easily matched on different maturity levels) or desperate dating behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:51 AM
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I don't date young men so I don't know how much of the OP's grisling is legit but I do suspect there are a lot of young men will have issues. We are living in a time where 1/3 of young men don't get sex, and I'm sure that's going to be factor for them having issues beyond elements like career progress angst, study stress, less community involvement and living more of an online isolated life, saving for an avg house that costs $0.75m, living at home longer, etc. I don't know if I'd say following …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:16 AM
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I agree it will restore balance to the hookup/short term relationship market but as others have pointed out people operate in their own self interests rather than the great good. It might work more in a collective Asian society but not in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:54 AM
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I never felt threatened or violated by it and the intentions were fine from my perspective. If a dykes on bikes type woman got really touchy & pushy with me at a party/bar I might feel different about it but I'd soon get over it I feel. They would have to be really obnoxious for me to want to punch them rather than just walk away or tell them politely to piss off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:33 AM
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I agree. I saw a post recently from an older woman saying she had been sexually assaulted dozens of times, and it was because she was grabbed or felt when she used to go to night clubs or festivals or music gigs. When I was younger I never thought of that as sexual assault and I saw it happen quite a bit at certain venues. I had a few friends who were touchy (kino escalation) chat up types who would grab a girl by the arm or waist in a night club who was nearby and try to chat them up often and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:20 AM
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will obviously never happen because the average person (and consequently the vast majority) only think of themselves here and now and couldn't care any less about the bigger picture and how it could directly benefit them personally. This is the bottom line. As for 50:50, actually in many countries there is 3-4% more males than females born, so its not quite 50:50 in the prime dating years, but evens out in middle age, and then F > M in old age as they live longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:12 AM
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The male equivalent to dating apps is safe, legal and regulated prostitution. Well not quite. The girl can go on a dating app and get a guy to take her out and then have sex with her, every weekend of the year. If the guy is going the pro route, it going to cost him $120 plus if he wants some of the GF experience options or longer sessions a week. He could spend $10k a year to get the equivalent and thats not talking escort level even.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 01:42 AM
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Yeh I don't know how many of those give a sweet short/skinny/chubby joe blo a go relationships will last unless the women is at or past the settle down phase. I've been the rebound relationship with a couple of very pretty women after a bad relationship bustup and they lasted until they got their confidence/mojo back (still happy to have had them though)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 01:04 AM
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Looking at the guys I've known over the years when it came to those who were pussy hounds....it wasnt so much the proper accomplished hot looker Chads who dropped 3 pts just to get some nookie and over inflate average women's egos, it was the Chad Lites or wanna be chads in the 7-6's bracket who much more were more thirsty to keep the notches coming and who had a 'just don't be fat' attitude when it came to sex. The Chads still get a lot of action but they don't have to be thirsty as opportuniti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:57 AM
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Yeh I don't think Aust or NZ have been revolutionized to any degree different in terms of the M/F dynamic compared to the US. RP and MGTOW happen there as well as simping though to what degree compared to the US its hard to say. Lots of guys don't want to go to hookers out of principle or because they cheapskates or saving up for a house or if they do they do its just as a fall-back option and they still ultimately want a girlfriend or a FWB that saves them money. I thought I read an article say…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:13 AM
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in terms of attributes in an ideal partner. and online dating is like a shopping catalogue but where the 5 star products costs no more than the 1 star products. Your looks & stats are the equivalent of currency though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:15 PM
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Good for those older married guys that their wives are still making an effort to be sexy & stylish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 11:52 PM
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What about a serious relationship though? With the cougar dynamic most of them wont be pushing you for a committed relationship and are fine with you seeing them as a fling and wont burden you with any drama but if you were the 46 yr old guy they would be less tolerant of you just wanting casual sex and want love & commitment....though from the study by the OP it seems less so then the older men do (relationships as well as dating it seems from a linked chart).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:26 AM
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Correct its contributing...both as a cause and an effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:14 AM
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A number I've known have had issues/self centered personality type/immature that imo would have been factor contributing to them being a single mom. Not all guys do an instant runner when they find out the girl they are dating is pregnant, but its not easy living with some of these women (I'm not saying the fathers were a lot better either which wouldn't help). At the same time not all single moms are cc riders who got knocked up to a guy they were seeing casual, which the a lot of RP guys like …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:58 PM
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The threshold for 'abusive' has dropped over the last few generations so their is much more victimhood these days. I found I was being accused of being abusive because I was critical (low key critique/advice I should add and not a harsh putdown) a couple of times with an ex. A friend was an abusive ex because he didn't like her going out on girls nights out at clubs/resorts without him. Another friend was an abusive ex because they would yell and lose their temper in arguments in response to her…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:16 PM
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As others have said dating is not fair. In a fair world they would date each other and the single no kids people would be free to date each other. I find both single fathers and mothers prefer to date with someone that does not have kids as it makes it easier, but the bias against dating single parents is definitely stronger with my male friends and other guys I know who have a child....which is hypocritical though I do understand the reasons why. From a single guys perspective it just makes dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:00 PM
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Not necessarily. The well off person doesn't have to buy a mansion but just buy a nice house in a blue chip suburb. I guess it depends what city you live in but a nice but nothing austentatious house in a sort after nice suburb could by $2-3m easy these days, and the guy certainly wont be wasting his $ by buying it, but as soon as any woman sees his house & suburb they will know straight away he's a multi millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:45 AM
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hoe does it for $, slut for fun or validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:03 AM
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Correct more tolerance for dumb mistakes or what would be deal breakers for average joe shmoe. There are so many dick pics & shirt off pics & first convo dirty flirty remarks flying around on online dating site interactions, because they work (just for a subset of men, but it flows down through the ranks, but with less success and lower tolerance of it by women)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:24 AM
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Guys who have done physical transformations (fat to buff, skinny to swole), know very well the contrast from first hand experience. Dating a woman not so attractive will also help get you treated more special.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:20 AM
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I agree, I cant see the vast majority wanting to be a single mom, but I think the safety nets out there these days make women make risky hasty decisions or use a baby as a relationship tactic. Quite a few of the single moms I've known got pregnant to guys they were not in serious committed relationships with or style over substance guys early on in the relationship and just never planned with the guys that they were fine having a baby from any day on...which I'm sure the guy's certainly were not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 11:29 PM
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or be okay with being single. With dating apps like tinder they can ride out the late 20s to late 30s being single easy enough, as long as they have sufficient $ from ex + govt + P/T job to not be really stressed. I think quite a few realize the compromise they will have to make being a single mom for a committed long term boyfriend and will try to push that time out to the later years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 11:10 PM
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I suspect it will be this for a number of the guys who are a bit vague on the future, as when asked the question they are probably relating it to the new woman in question and its too early to say or he is just not feeling great passion for her. With the right woman they wouldn't be vague. Most guys though really dont want to rush into it , and want to enjoy footloose years with the woman first before getting tied down with a baby, so its going to be something a few yrs down the track and he has…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:51 PM
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You can save a lot of money by pooling resources as a couple, especially if you live in the top tier global city where houses in middle class suburbs go for >$850k. Two incomes over $100k@ makes life easier to share and enjoy the finer things in life and for the guy he wont get financially raped. I think high earning guys (that aren't desperate for women) are more savvy these days in this regard + the high earning women hate the thought of marrying below their league and hone in these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:44 AM
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The 2 income professional couple (DINK) can really end up very wealthy, and even with a token child or 2 even later in life, they have built up enough wealth for living in a top end suburb, expensive cars, holiday house, private schools, etc. I think there has become a strata of married couples (upper middle class vs working class) that just wasn't there before neo liberal economic politics came into vogue in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:35 AM
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If there are similar I dont think there is any issue. If the woman makes more than the man, by a decent margin then it has potential for disharmony. Back a couple of generations I would have said it was the man that would have typical had the issues over it but these days I would say it has swung more where the woman more so then the guy is going to have a hang-up over being the bread winner and see him as lesser or she could do or deserves better, etc. or she has higher expectations he does mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:28 AM
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No not at the extreme top. I'm just looking at couples I know who are say on $90-$160k each with the guy generally earning a bit more then the fiancé.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:22 AM
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financially successful men and women can marry each other, and they often do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:12 AM
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I agree, i've never known anyone this extreme. Typically closer to the mark its going to be more a case of a young woman in her 20s who's say only been with say 2-4 guys and they have been committed long term boyfriends. The sleep with him quick is as others mentioned, is a sign she is totally into him and has intense passion/desire for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:33 PM
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Yeh In theory but hardly in practice and my guess why they can get away with it is legislation mentions nothing about gender, but the number of male to female prostitutes is probably 3%:97% with corresponding male customer base or more likely even more men due to gay clients for the male pros. Both are taking part in the same act/exchange except now the one paying is just deemed a criminal while the one profiting is not. Its like charging the thief but letting the fence/knowing buyer of stolen p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:07 AM
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weren't the laws in NY recently updated to decriminalize prostitution, and follow the discriminatory Scandinavian model where its only the client who has committed a crime and not the hooker?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:45 AM
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Bingo. My observations with my friends over the years in regards to women actually initiating things, is how you explain it. Yes there is greater risk that the guy will just say yeh because he can pick up she is a sure thing, but the guys (often players) they choose are a big factor in reducing their chances he will end up her LTR boyfriend. She can help her situation by making it clear she is out for a relationship prior to sex instead of not saying it and going with the flow on his lead on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:26 AM
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Ideally most less confident guys want to get back solid indicators of interest before they take the leap and ask her out on a date. Formal friendly or low initiative response back is not enough for many guys and the obvious thing is to read between the lines - she's not interested. I agree it would be good if some of the process was shared more
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:54 PM
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i agree, the woman's passion for the man is very important for happy long term success but its just not going to happen for the guys that are not sort after by lots of women, unless the woman never gets flirted with. The more desired men will get her initiating and flirting up a storm but the risk for her is she just another option for this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:33 PM
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From my observations when women do make the first move it is when they have have had a bit to drink and or the guy is good looking man. His looks (and charisma if she talks to him a bit beforehand) inspires her to take the chance, and typically not to ask the guy out but more to flirt and give off very obvious IOIs. With that heightened desire (her feeling that amazing chemistry when he responds favorably) I'd say the timeline for sex is quite short. Super short if she has had a few drinks. If t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:26 PM
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It is just not as easy for a young guy to build attraction the same as women imo. Make-up and short dress or low cut top and tight jeans with ankle boots will work well for lots of women, but snug fitting t-shirt and jeans is not going to boost average joes prospects a lot. A lot of women say its a burden having to spend money & time on cosmetics but the majority of young women don't really need it to be attractive - youth + T&A + happy nature go a long way, but they want to be hotter to get hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:58 AM
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video clip got removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:22 AM
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This really is the only way. It has to be done at the individual level to change your circumstances. Government wont really care unless women start complaining. If it effects GDP or birth rate they will just import more immigrants. Big business which has a big impact on policy making these days don't care if more singles thus more consumers & more discretionary $ spent on self enjoyment than couples/families would provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:24 AM
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I dont think its quite as bad as 20/80 but yep its the distribution of sexual encounters that's key. A guy having sex once a week with his girlfriend is not the equivalent of a guy sleeping with a new woman off tinder every weekend. Because most women spend most of their time in long term relationships and some casual sex encounters might have been less than 1/2 hr in their life they downplay that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:10 AM
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I think the contrast between the previous poster and your experience on tinder is IRL vs cyber life at a distance. I'm amazed at the stories I hear from women when it comes to OLD and behavior of some men but also amazed at what good looking friends get away with too (and their tactics flows down thru the ranks somewhat). People behave shitter online than in real life, as there is less consequences, and maybe online is the outlet now as I do suspect younger people are less risk averse face to fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:13 AM
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Correct but I do think its a bit of a stretch to say above above average guys are going for below average women unless she is throwing herself at him and he is in a slump and his social circle wont know. Its much more a case of above average guys going for average women for NSA fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 01:24 AM
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Likewise lots of young women don't want a BF that has struggled to get women. She is used to hooking with guy's who brag about their great hookup life and have lots of great dating/sexcapade stories. She is not going to feel special with the guy that has been single for numerous years because other women didn't think he is good enough. the issues go both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:51 AM
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that's what I would think. 33% of singles not looking for a committed relationship does not give comfort to those guys struggling to get a GF/get laid. Imo its a feature of why its harder. The women in that segment are legitimately not open to anything or they are 'just dating around' and doing casual dating/sex which is going to skew the sexual encounters to above average men. As for the male component of that 33%, most of the guys I knew who had no interest in a relationship was because they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:16 AM
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When you talk who is the more beautiful it ideally imo it should be intrinsic pure naked looks. Both in T-shirt & jeans and no fakery (make up), without the need for one sex or both sexes to have to put in a lot of effort. Some here wont see it that way and effort and external aspects (fashion, more expense & time) are relevant factors (and should be more critical to the less attractive sex). Thigh gap and higher hip to waist ratio are big turn on factors for me and are a factor in me finding a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:01 AM
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Bingo. Desire vs objective beauty. Is the average 65+ yr old women more aesthetically beautiful than the average 65+ yr old male. No not in my opinion, because I'm not hardwired by testosterone to see it that way as nature wants me to see young women as the most desirable. An alien race landing here would likely find women no more beautiful than we find the average female tiger, eagle, shark, scorpion any more beautiful than the male of the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:34 PM
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this is what it was like for the 30s up women I knew who did OLD. Way more than their male counterpart. I should add though that these women were in shape and still had sex appeal, and were not struggling, overweight, frumpy dressing, short hair single moms looking exclusively for their forever after partner. The OP talks of dating not exclusively LTRs and that really expands the scope of her options.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:26 AM
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Lmfao woman in her mid 20s who is down to earth and all that. ^ that chick idk if she can even exist. The ones who do are drowning in options. I've known a few and they don't float around on the singles scene for long before they get snapped up. Matter of days sometimes before guys who know her and that she is now single are knocking on her door/phone, but yeh they are not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:07 AM
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Women in their 30s have the option of dating men in their 30s, 40s even 50s Even women in their 40s (who stay in shape and do OLD) "have the option of dating/sleeping with men in their 30s, 40s even 50s".....and even 20s. I remember reading on the old pickup site Chateau Heartiste a decade ago how the wall was late 20s and all these older guys in the message board were only supposedly only going for women in their mid 20s because of that. 30s and even up to mid 40s women "especially" those who s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:48 AM
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I think you played that wrong. You don't know for sure that she was there to stooge you. you might have been surprised even if it never happened before for you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 02:34 AM
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too many years have passed, now its a hang-up for him or he sees himself as defective/unlovable or sees paying for it as shameful. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:51 AM
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I'm seeing this (inconsistent) with a few women I know though its more an age thing. They did ONS with the cocky/dominant guys they barely knew and often when drunk which is even riskier when young. As far as I know not having bad experiences except maybe getting treated shabby in the morning or the guy not caring if they enjoyed it, but are now into dating gentleman type guys but have this stranger danger attitude to trusting & meeting them and internet stalking them beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:45 AM
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Typically it was the young women that ended the relationships or flings and it was the guys left broken hearted though most knew it wasn't going to last, but with good memories and typically hoped likewise they were good memories for the young women. The younger women I new who dated much older men never said anything bad of them at the time. I think that comes when they look back when they are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:41 AM
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I have no doubt they do. I dont think there would be the same sort of 20:80 type contrast though when it comes to women. God/nature did a pretty good job of making the average young woman sexy for the average guy. The ideal though is when that level of enthusiasm without compromising your true self is mutual. That willingness to please probably appeals to guys more I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:02 AM
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Nice post to explain it better. As you say those of us who have undergone transformation in attractiveness know what the OP is talking about. I'm gen x and picked on that dynamic long time ago amongst friends, acquaintances, and relatives in how they got treated by their girlfriends or girls in general (eagerness to please to became a gf or booty call), and experienced the differing levels of passion/willingness/rules at different times in my life based on how I looked from bodybuilding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:58 AM
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For the guys and myself who dated much younger women this is typically how it played out. The guys knew they were lucky and she was cute/sweet and had a lot of options and treated her really well, whereas the posts you read from older women talking about that dating dynamic (older guy with younger woman) paint it like he is taking advantage of her, getting away with more because she is naïve, manipulating her, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:39 AM
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A lot of guys do take pride in making sure their partner or partner for just the night do get off and have a good time. I tend to find its older women say late 30s up who view casual sex as getting used or view sex more as transactional (guy needs to do something nice for her to deserve it). I suspect a lot of older dudes do get a bit lazy with sex and or don't have the stamina too. I also suspect a lot of average guys who date older women are possibly more inclined to view them as meh/just okay…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:08 AM
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any major problems just yet I agree, and I don't know if that imbalance will be such an issue anymore as the men age out. the key risk for civil unrest I would have thought is when many of the men are dispirited and resentful when in their 20s. They've tried, but it's a cultural thing more than a lack of government action. I thought I read they had tried a little bit but with a few programs but maybe that was couched more in terms of boosting Japan's birthrate rather than giving herbivore men so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:02 PM
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China had/has millions of surplus men but has managed to avoid any significant civil unrest. I know they are totalitarianism country but if millions of single men became unruly it would lead to a crack down in the west and most of the femcentric msm/politicians would not evaluate the causes too deep and just call for tougher law and order. For profit jails in the US would be happy to take in more inmates. Too many low productivity low ambition men again the msm (and many on social media) would n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:37 AM
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I concur. Tall lanky guys do complain about having a hard time but that is typically in their teens to early 20s at most, then its not so bad as young women start to get turned on by the height factor more and it offsets being thin. They realize he can always put on size but the shorter dude can never get any taller. Also there is a difference with lanky, lean, thin vs skinny, scrawny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 12:24 AM
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Same effect when done in reverse for skinny guys, though skinny guys don't quite have it as bad as a fatty in teens & early 20s, but no love for skinny guys in their 30s from women in their 30s (except the overweight ones), but when fit/athletic/bulked you get treated much better by both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:56 AM
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I dont think women cheating are given that much of a free pass though there is more 'reasons' given as to why they strayed whereas with men its more a case of he's a cheating prick. Where I do find a big shift has occurred (compared to say 30+ yrs ago) is women who knowingly sleep with married or boyfriends (being the other woman in an affair) is not seen as the sin it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:31 AM
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I know you are looking for replies from women and this is not one, but imo if a guy has such few opportunities + is no hit with women, he needs to make the most of what few opps come his way as the next time might not be for another year or even worse, so take no chances and bluff your way through. With each year that goes past he risks a bigger mental eewww reaction from women. If you/he is nervous just say its been a while not that its first time, but avoid the subject if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:13 AM
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Single moms definitely do come in for flak from the radical RP brigade. There seems to be little scope for allowance, even if the husband/boyfriend cheated on them and that was the reason for the bustup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:02 AM
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While I agree with the poster above you in that by mid to late 20s majority of women are in or looking for a serious relationship, I wouldn't say all of them think the person they are then dating is the one, and will be the one they have babies/mortgage with and is forever after. I think the more career orientated ones don't necessarily think like that and lots of people do have a series of monogamous relationships throughout their life and many these days see their 30s as the time to find someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:05 AM
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Sex if done right should be mutually pleasurable experience. Both parties should get enjoyment. The woman has the potential to have numerous orgasms whereas the guy is typically only going to get the one or two if he has good rebound on the same session. Its not like the women should be getting used unless she gets something else out of the event (unless she made it conditional on something else)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:42 AM
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Totally, but in real life a tall dude who is reasonably attractive & masculine should get attention unless he went to an all boys school and or hardly ever went out to parties, pubs, music venues, etc in his teens & early 20s. I do think the longer it takes to happen the more self esteem, confidence issues build up and the more you miss the subtle signals
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:07 AM
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Same here. There might be a bit of a grieving period and or a period when they get in shape, but otherwise if they are not overweight they are leveraging that in the dating market pretty soon and making the most of their sex appeal while they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 10:00 PM
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i agree typically nice people or nice guys go out of there way to help the object of their interest/desire at minimum but genuine nice guys are not selective when it comes to doing the right thing by people. A lot of people are self centered these days so imo someone being nice is a little special if your view on nice is a step up from just being pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 09:07 AM
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By mid 30s you have to deal with emotional baggage more that starts to mount up, which just favors your strategy all the more
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 12:28 AM
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I have had to deal with this, and yes you have to give them the benefit of the doubt (unless they say something for you to highly suspect they were very judgmental) otherwise you will always be doubting everyone you meet. You dont know someone's true character until there is some adversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 09:31 AM
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even if she might have had that's the thing...you wont know if she was just as shallow as others that gave you the talk to the hand attitude when you were struggling previously. Lots of people get in shape after a relationship breakup during which they let themselves go and then find someone knew and boast how this new partner is better looking and treats them better than their shitty ex, but reality is they could have been just like their ex back when the person was unmotivated & overweight and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 12:10 AM
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You do get it, this topic is based on general public perceptions and not just the bubble world of PPD readers. Its called mainstream for a reason and most of the public still watch or read it and its not about my views. I'm on here and my life doesn't revolve around msm obviously and if I was 12 my views, opinions and news would much more likely be coming from social media more than the msm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 09:10 PM
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only considering dating the nice guys once they're in their early-mid 30s, if for whatever reason they end up single (due to bad break-ups) and finally want to take life seriously. Coz you see, most actual nice guys are career men and by the time they reach their mid-30s, I think this is part of the issue with where have all the good guys gone for women in mid 30s up. a lot of those former nice guys are not so nice anymore realizing then that just being nice is not enough. Some will have got the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:29 AM
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They could be rejected because he's only chasing women that wouldn't want him. Every time I see them complain about "assholes get all the girls", the girls they point to are never wholesome girl-next-door types. It's typically Pick Me girls, hyper sexual party girls, girls with severe untreated mental illnesses, or women caked in makeup that look like they have an Onlyfans. I disagree that most 'nice guys' only have eyes for these types of women. Those types of women catch their eyes more with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:18 PM
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banned or quarantined > whats the difference..is the latter just a suspension?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:01 PM
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Even on YouTube, you can see male you tubers laughing at those women That is only where you see it on the RP YTber forums, but not in the msm which is more femcentric and I'm guessing this is more along the lines of what the previous poster as getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 10:59 PM
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Yeh I with I had that energy now, but when you are younger (<40) its not too hard to find time on the weekend. For an avg joe shmoe guy its not easy to score NSA in the meantime while on the lookout for a woman they think is great GF material. Many will just fall into a relationship with the first woman who is keep to sleep with them. For a woman though its easy to find someone every Fri/Sat night, but emotionally easy not so much. The really good looking people are going to have higher benchmar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:02 PM
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after you were given the impression it was part of a deeper process makes perfect sense. Of course that hurts. I wrote in terms of the OP who is hooking up with women same day or same weekend. The other party while enamored with the person they just met should keep their hopes for something more in check early on, even if the guy/girl says they are so hot and is grabby when half drunk. The longer between hello and sleeping with the person then chances are one party is going to think its part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 04:09 AM
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I agree. I don't get this sentiment that they got used, when then jump into bed with an attractive guy asap and it only turns out to be a ONS or fling. Guys who score multiple women a week don't need to lie as the women are eager to jump into the sack with them especially if they are meeting out and had a few drinks. NSA sex if done right should be mutually fun time for both, unless the woman in question is just blowing them in the car park. To me a woman who think she got used when she had sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:44 PM
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this guy will probably lie from now on since he didn't get what he wanted If he's a good looking guy with outgoing personality/charm, he wont have to lie. He just needs to not mention his true intentions and go with the flow and a hookup will happen. I knew guys like the OP were they could pick up a shag on a Friday night and then one on the Saturday (sometimes 2 on the same night...one at the club and one to take home). It was crazy how easy it was for these guys. They didn't have to put on a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:15 PM
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This was more the norm for the gym rats I've known or currently know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:15 AM
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The dad bod guys I've seen do okay with women are beefy solid build men carrying an extra say 15kg and the women who like these men also typically are carrying extra weight. The guy's have masculine frame and are not fatties or soy boi chubbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:44 PM
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Dad bod guys that women like are not fatties, but just beefy dudes carrying say and extra 15kg, nd its typically women in their 30s up who don't mind the dad bod but I wouldn't say they lust after it, more its a safe cuddly choice for them, especially when they too are carrying extra weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:41 PM
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i wouldn't call it a surge either. The dad bod guys are not stereo-typical fatties, but more so beefy guys with a bit of a gut (bit not a beer belly). They are generally only popular with women say 32-33 up in age as well. I've had a couple of women explain to me the reason why they don't mind the dad bod is because it takes the pressure of them to stay in shape in a relationship. The guy wont be so demanding when they get get a mom bod about staying in shape or making them feel bad about their …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:36 PM
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I've heard plenty of conversations about guys talking shit about wanting to take so and so woman to pound town, but never talk proudly about wanting to rape them. Big difference unless you are adding a twist to it that the woman in question is never going to give consent for such a guy so by default his desire is rape related.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:23 PM
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sex is fairly primary need on maslow's hierarchy of needs. I never said they were entitled to it so not sure how you went down that path only that being single is an issue long term as it would be for a woman, except its much easier for the average woman to hold out for her ideal relationship with getting her sexual needs met in the meantime, and that scenario is not called entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:21 AM
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For many of these guys, single short term is likely no issue, but longer term it is. If they were long term single but still got a bit of hookup action every 3rd month say that would tide them over and make them feel more optimistic and feel like they are not missing out on life in the meantime till they eventually found someone for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:13 AM
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Correct. Its not like the average guy is a better person character wise, but as a person lowers their 'ideal' standards they have a better chance of finding someone that thinks they are special and treats them accordingly. An average woman likewise is nothing special or to be worshiped, but you really hope to find someone that you think is pretty special and they feel the same back. Personally I find it helps if its a symbiotic relationship...if the girl treats me really special I tend to see he…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:05 AM
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Yep. When I was skinny or even thin, all my girlfriends or hookups were shocked how strong I was when we play wrestled. I worked out at the gym though it didn't show when I had clothes on. When like that I'd had numerous women (more often than not smaller build ones) make cracks about not wanting to date a guy who they could kick their arse (none took up the offer to show me). Unless they knew Mu Thai or some other martial art they would have a hard time beating up 1% of the jockeys in town.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:13 PM
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the also want a docile population
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:18 PM
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I didnt think I was either, but a bt more so when I got older. Thats the trouble if they are picky to begin with then they are dammed if they do change and dammed if they dont. Such relationships I have seen it is so obvious she thinks she has settled and its reflected in the passion she has for the guy. If they dont change then they risk having a string of flings and FWBs with the better catch guys and ending up really jaded and single long term ( I know a few). Nothing wrong with saying I've n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:39 AM
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I wouldn't wait 3 mths unless the woman was an outstanding match for what I wanted, and at my age too I would be worried about sex being transactional with her and not coming from true desire. If the sex was ordinary and she too passive instead of raunchy then I would call it quits. for a lot of people a great sex life will be the glue that hold the passion in the relationship., and you can't know this for sure until you have sex. By their 30s a lot so guys are not so desperate as they were (may…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 01:44 AM
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this is definitely a factor. They wont keep doing it year after year but they will want to make up for missed opportunities and get some fun like their better looking buddies do, but they typically cant come on strong with the dirty talk straight off like they can and make it obvious the women is just for fun, so they have to ghost afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 01:25 AM
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Are these female friends? I noticed the same with women in their 30s...many were really picky in their early 30s, but by 36+ quite a few would date guys they would have not have had the time of day for 5 yrs earlier. They 'matured/realized what's really important' (not going to be a good relationship from the guy's perspective imo)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 01:20 AM
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i agree. The guys that struggle to get women/dates are going to drop their standards just to get an outcome. For some a date is still a positive outcome, for others sex is the positive outcome. Some will want to make up for what they missed out on in their 20s and get their piece of the hookup pie before they chose someone they really connect with and stick with them. An average joe guy is not going to ghost too often if he really is dating women he fancies (how many manage to do that is another…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 01:01 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:40 AM
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Men consider easy sex validation of their physical attractiveness, especially since the other gender is risking consequences for this. So casual sex is getting sex and an ego boost. "I'm worth the consequences." Yes they feel validated though really only if they fancied the woman, and are not slumming it out of desperation, but they dont view in terms of its not because she is taking a risk. Its simply because she chose him from the others and she shows eagerness to please him, and if he sees he…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:02 PM
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Correct. Lots of women will classify guys (fuckboi, relationship, no way), but plenty will stay on with the ONS guy if he where to keep seeing her. Also say the scenario is one of a refined, elegant, ambitious career focused woman, who slept with a cocky, handsome tatted up, high stamina, struggling artist/musician for a few months. Its highly unlikely she would ever get into a serious relationship with him or introduce him to her friends, but its not like that guy is going to struggle to get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:48 PM
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Maybe I don't read enough posts here but I have not seen too much vitriol against them compared to other male/dating websites but yes they are used often as a measure of unattractive. In my country there is a lot of overweight people and just as many men as women, but imo it hits women and their femininity harder than man and their masculinity which is why they cop more flack. Like a number of other posters here, I genuinely don't hate them (they are generally friendly) but I am not attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:08 AM
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I think nature allows for combat, food/environmental crises and risky behavior by men, so it has it so that more male babies are born than female, typically by 3-4% I thought. This happens in the vast majority of countries and fluctuates a bit for whatever reason. Women live longer and because of that it averages out, but when it comes to dating in your prime years the advantage is with young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:39 AM
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You wont get in trouble if you keep your hands to yourself, but you will encounter some attitude back. You also have to find the ones that dont have headphones or earbuds on or their head buried in their cell phone or tablet. Many women now use these as shields to avoid this sort of scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:28 AM
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I would not think you are the norm. From chatting to my promiscuous female friends they dont rate their (hotter) casual sex partners much chop in bed. One is particularly disparaging of their talent for getting women off, and I'd say they (the good looking men) don't have to worry about that to keep getting lots of women eager to jump into the sack with them. I would say its more a case of validation. In theory the hotter the sex partner the more aroused the person will be so better chances of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:38 AM
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I agree with this. trying to explain it you run the risk of getting labelled misogynist or if anyone there in the group knows an inkling of the RP that they have read for instance from a post such as this then a woman hater or hypocritical PUA. I agree just use the parts of the RP that you can relate to benefit your life without going into detail with others (well especially women) As for the OPs post, I typically found Rollo to be pretty rational when it came to his blog - the Rational Male. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:05 AM
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Ketoconazole. The shampoo?? Are you able to tell that is making any difference given the other meds you are on. Finisteride made it so my orgasms were only 1/5 to 1/4 as good. Jizz volume also dropped a lot after I took it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:37 AM
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Also less family households means double the sales of products and services to more households of singles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:26 PM
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I didn't dump her over it. We broke up within a year over other compatibility issues. When I said what I said it wasn't as if I made a huge deal about it at the time, just mentally noted it that it is a fundamental compatibility issue for me in a serious LTR and feeling special, and up to that point things were going okay. Most women wont admit they are selective about who they ramp up the raunch for and tend to admit they did/tried in the past but they didn't enjoy it or it was a phase only or …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 11:39 PM
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she made the been there done that comment and said she doesn't want to do certain things with every guy as it can complicate things and didn't want to go into details. I knew she had done things with hookups from comments she made when drunk + 2nd hand info. I've seen some posts on here where women say similar, and its typically because they don't want their boyfriend to think they are slutty or had a raunchy slutty past so save the freak stuff for flings or with guys they wont likely ever see a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 02:45 PM
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Relationship was NOT just about sex, if it was this would have come up sooner before relationship consolidated. Gives her sexual best to her ONS and fuck buddies, like she wouldn't get stroppy if I spent more money on my female friends or skanky girls I wanted to date, then her my girlfriend, and then the relationship is all about $ and want I can do for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 02:24 PM
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For the guys that don't gets much NSA nookie, they don't consider that a downgrade. lol I had a girlfriend once when I pushed to do more kink in our relationship admitted she only did that in her casual sex relationships. When i asked to be downgraded to fuckbuddy status, she got shitty. I definitely knew then it wasn't going to be a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:43 AM
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Do women really lower their standards when it comes to casual sex? She might lower her standard for intelligence or conversation skills or his career or his ability to be a great father or devoted & caring partner (which don't matter so much short term or even less for ONS/FWB) but definitely not also on his looks & machismo. when it starts off with casual sex, Its either 2 separate pools of men (one for fun & sex and the other good parent, good earner & loving devoted partner) or its the same g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:35 AM
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"I think it definitely depends on the guy." -It does - it is hard to make sweeping statements across all struggling single dudes. It gets tricky over what people think they want in their head. I was skinny and I wanted skinny/thin/slim and on numerous occasions coped flak for wanting a barbie, but a thin, average looking nerd girl who was happy having her counterpart would have been great for me and I did date one like that at uni. All but one setup date I had were with markedly bigger women. lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:14 PM
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absolutely stunning women owe them attention I don't know these guys but I know the single guy's I know who struggled and 'stunning' is definitely not a word I would choose for the type of woman they were hoping to snag. Sure their heads would tuen when a babe walked by but they weren't teenagers and had a pretty good idea how they ranked in the attraction stakes. What these guys for the most part did want was a feminine girlfriend, and that meant slim, DTE & sweet natured and ideally not short …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 05:39 AM
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Also there has been a profound shift in society over the last say 35 yrs that has shown the light on this more than for past generations, and the views of the generations that came before and how dating was for them has an impact on men when growing up. The male being the bread winner and the women being the wife is and you study hard and get a good job and your get a great woman are largely from a bygone era. Women really don't need men anymore, or are desperate not to be left on the shelf by 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 11:49 AM
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that's my attitude and also vice versa when their an under-appreciated woman feels she hit the jackpot with a hot guy assuming its for more than a ONS. Better to have experienced that crazy I'm soooo lucky feeling even if its a short term rebound ultraistic romance than never at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:29 AM
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maybe adoption, or fostering I thought that was really hard/impossible for single people to do. Best I thought was to be a part time big brother or big sister to some underprivileged kid with a single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 05:44 AM
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I thought he had been going out of his way to re-assure her and treat her better to win back her confidence that he really loves her, but you can only do that for so long. This issue with her having hangup over that incident has been going on for numerous years. she has not forgiven him, and his sex live has not been the same since. Your advice is good......for the short term. A stinky butt (when going down on a girl) is going to be common especially when the girl didn't get an opportunity to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:29 AM
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Higher up the distribution chain they are for sure when it comes to the crime gangs and importers, but tinder's logic is that the end user is not correlated with domestic violence or date harassment. I bet that doesn't hold true for meth users from the few I've known.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:18 AM
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Thats right, so it wont pick up any of the plate spinners, or those on the rebound just after a breakup unless it was a divorce, or those cohabitating in a defacto relationship or those who live separate but are still in a bf/gf relationship. Supposedly though there are still a lot of married dudes on OLD. They would just shift from Tinder to POF instead unless the Match Group roll it out to all their dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 11:25 PM
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that's what I thought to. So drug use and violence (just not predominantly partner violence according to them though not so sure about that when it comes to meth) or theft or fraud or willingness to break the law or facilitating illegal activities are not connected at all. Finance fraud is probably disproportionate white or at least white collar so better leave that out as well plus its not linked to partner violence (even though you can still be a romance grifter)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 11:09 PM
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You are correct. Which is a little bit ironic that the more feminine, petite women have the bigger hang-up over being seen as dainty, feminine, fragile, girly when they already are to the biggest degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:21 AM
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There are 2 different aspects to femininity as I guess you could say there is to masculinity. Using actors as examples...you can have someone like Jane March or Ellen Page be considered feminine but are petite, but at same time you have Sophia Loren, Raquel Welch, Lake Bell, Salma Hayek who are/were all very sexy & feminine and voluptuous. Femininity is not defined totally by 'dainty' if so then a lot of the female population is really falling short of the mark. For men masculinity is a little b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:12 AM
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This was the dichotomy aspect that used to bug me (I've just come to terms...it is what it is). I would hear from smaller build women how they needed a big build guy to feel more girly & feminine (they already were very high feminine in look and if they have hangups in early 20s they will be in crises in their 40s) and to feel safer (we live in one of the safest countries in arguably the safest era in history) and need a competent manly man to take care of her & her kids in times of crises (guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:56 AM
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I don’t read fiction or anything for entertainment. I'm the same now that I'm older, but did love reading fiction for entertainment when i was younger, and would be good i could be inspired like that again. Just prioritize my time differently + less energy at end of day after work, but I do feel the of reading that requires more creative thinking and concentration will help in later life when it comes minimizing dementia.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:18 AM
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I agree with the basic premise though its not an open and shut case. Being friends with women, especially more attractive and social women will provide you with opportunities if she invites you along for nights out with friends or to parties or weekend outings along with her other friends. She very likely wont set you up on a date with any of her friends but you will have opportunities to try your luck with them or other women just from being out more at social events. I've typically found thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:11 AM
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motorcycles perusing reddit comments counts as reading in my book ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:19 AM
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ugly tiny eyes What makes a smaller eyeball better looking than ugly. Veins?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:16 AM
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Hmm, maybe the profession or location matters. in my observation it does. I work in finance systems & IT and worked in a number of different sectors and the more judgmental when it came to men imo were the accountants, lawyers, project managers, real estate women (more $ focused), the more easy going ones were in IT (coders, analysts) engineers, geologists, chemists. Location also I guess counts, because the stay at home father with the good income career wife I really know hardly many couples l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:17 AM
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Re your last sentence: When l worked in finance what you described was really rare, though not so much the married a man in the same field asoect, but dating down financially Yeh real rare. Even the few blue collar hubbies had $uccessful businesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:11 AM
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i think you need to write " most young women definitely prefer skinny over fat". I've been skinny over a number of different periods due to health issues and I found women after 29/30 had a much lower tolerance for finding it desirable *, and that was strongest with the skinny, petite, slim women. Overweight women were always the most accepting....however as much as they were nicer, my ideal body type was what matched me for what my weight was at the time. Exception for the tall lanky guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:42 PM
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Correct. In 2021 you definitely need to allow for this, as there is a new normal compared to the 20th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:30 PM
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Are you a skinny guy? Did dating / having sex with that slimmer woman make any impact on you more so than the heavier women? (just curious)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:28 PM
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Well there are 3 types of lying imo in this scenario. Lying by pretending to be a different person 'wholesome, not into NSA sex. Lying by omission. Just never mentioning to you she a woohoo DTF girl back in her sporting & university days and you are the 32nd (or whatever) person she has slept with. Lying by saying she has only been with 5 guys and 4 were LTRs, when you know from her past social media she was Flat out BS. A lot of women these days are going to try to short circuit any discussion …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:04 AM
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I agree with this. I think its a misnomer by women that I have heard a number of times similar to this...'the hot guys hookup with the hot girls, the average joe guys hookup with the average jane women, and the geeks & unattractive guys hookup with the unattractive women.' As if sex is evenly distributed across the band width. It tends to end up that way when it comes to LTRs but as for hookups, one night stands, flings, Fk buddies, no, much less so. For casual sex women over whelmingly date up …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:27 AM
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I agree, her reticence with sex could very easily be seen as passive aggressive response rather than a crises of confidence, which I could believe, but not still on going 5 yrs later. She is giving him a 2nd rate sex live but at the same time herself as well, but to me the bigger annoyance with that 'relationship advice' situation is the guy beating himself up over it yrs later and taking on 100% blame + the female columnist happy to also heap 100% blame on to him as well, not 50:50 or 30:70, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 12:36 AM
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This makes sense for young people to match up like this and I suspect a lot do in the 16-23 age bucket. Likewise I suspect in the 50-80 age bucket a lot matched up. In 5+ yrs time that aspect wont matter so much. There is a good chance the guys who do well scoring women will tend to also rate high with you. You too could well want a man that's in demand. Often for guys that have slept with scores of women they picked up in clubs or where DTF on Tinder, the low count, demure, home focused woman b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:25 AM
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I don't think they are the norm, but most of the guys I knew who were players ended up marrying low n count women, or at least they very much gave off that vibe. They had the choice of either type of woman, whereas as the low n count guy typically doesn't have the sex appeal to cut it with the more sexually provocative women. Maybe that mindset has changed since 2000. A few man whores I know ended up with similar but these guys were party drugs n booze guys and were not ideal for the conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:03 AM
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from my observation I felt a number of women were doing this consciously rather than subconsciously and the purpose was more for misdirection...ie that looks are not as important to them as personality is. These women that I am thinking off would date guys built like lumberjacks or rugby players and point out that because the guy's were not especially handsome (they were basically average from facial aspect) or had six packs that they don't have a priority when it comes to looks and boyfriends. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:05 AM
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Unless you are wearing skin tight pants there really wont know until they get you back to their room. I also think a lot of women will equate height = bigger cock due to proportionality and I suspect quite a few consciously factor that in with their quest for a tall boyfriend....as a bonus a former famous body builder in his discussion with a journalist who was giving BBs crap over having small testicles (tho they often also like say roids shrinks their cock too), said how when he walks into a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:36 AM
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I agree. I also hate his hand wringing & his ongoing mea culpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:44 AM
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I agree with you on the self conscious aspect totally, but by year end you'd hope to have work through it especially if you had changed your hygiene habits in the meantime as well to bolster a change in the mental aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:29 AM
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There seems to be some inherent belief that when a woman does something, she does it for good reason, whereas if a man does something, he does it because he wanted to. This aspect to me very much comes thru in relationship/sex advice posts. The same scenario will have 2 different motivations ascribed to it and when its the female protagonist there is a good reason for the behavior but when its the man and there is any sex related aspect it will be 'his selfish needs'. (not always but often) Saw …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:25 AM
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I would be upfront and let the woman I was dating know as well, as I would if she had bad breath or smelly under arms, but would do my best to be tactful about it. If it was a hookup and I got a sense early on she might be a bit wiffy I'd suggest I'm a bit smelly and need a shower for myself and lead her into it. Likewise if they acted all passive aggressive over it for months to come let a lone years...it would be bye bye. The trouble with the guy in this 'sex advice' post is that it he never w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:29 PM
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I think he should too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 09:58 PM
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I tend to agree with the OP. There would be less 'nice guys' and more 'pump n dump' merchants if a lot more men where good looking. Men's behavior if influenced by their level of nsa/sex/female scarcity, and more would behave more cavalier to women if they had less of a mindset of scarcity. In saying that however I feel women would adjust and if a lot more men became good looking, the top worthy to fuck 20% would jut move up a level, so I dont think you would have this scenario of a broad range …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 09:06 PM
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thanks. I initially forgot was mascara was for, but still curious on the clear aspect for anything in the make-up realm. My eye brows is only thing I worry about as a guy + a thin patch in my beard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 06:00 PM
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Clear mascara If its clear then what's the point? Its more a beauty product than health/skin care product i thought
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 05:12 PM
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Totally this. I don't know if people who talk about ugly people doing great with NSA sex have over the top classifications for beauty (ie you're good looking or you're ugly) or if they are deliberately being obtuse when it comes to a person's descriptive looks and just focusing on the face and ignoring their other desirable attributes. Masculinity rocks for lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 03:16 AM
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Absolutely this is a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:03 AM
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I think it's useful to make the distinction between "Chad" (facially symmetrical guy) and some top male Biker gang leader, that's ugly with a belly but manages to sleep with biker fans. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:00 AM
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You probably intimidate women for example if your over 6' good looking women will feel like you are out of their league and will shoot themselves in the foot In bars & clubs after charging up confidence on a few drinks, lots of women will go these guys still or go all out to catch their eye Guys do the same thing I have talked to beautiful women and I'm like why are you even single they will say it's because guys rarely approach them always assume they are taken or out of their league. What age …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 01:51 AM
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Backing up claims like that with hard facts will be impossible as it anecdotal. Some people here dismiss anecdotal reports as worthless because they are not hard facts which I don't agree with as so many topics that get discussed on dating or hookup culture dont have well funded research studies on them to wave around as proof. The more such personal experiences conflict with general day to day reality the more people get suspicious. Also to there are other factors...is this person talking about…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 01:47 AM
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I'd say most sex workers if they went into it with no desperation for money but hungry for money and had no addictions would after they left the business never mention they did that work to any future boyfriend, and her fiancé would be oblivious he was guy #2000 or whatever in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 03:07 AM
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Its not a universal thing. There are plenty of guys that do want a family and for sure want to own property, but in the case of the latter dont necessarily want to get involved with a women to do it though these days in coastal cities you really need to decent incomes to afford a decent house and that aspect has really only come about last 15 yrs. There ar a lot of guys that are fine not getting married and just leaving the relationship at BF/GF level. It is working fine for them, so need to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:43 PM
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you still have your mates or your homies though. If you dont meet up regularly with them then it is going to a tougher existence. I do realize as you get older it does get harder to do this as lots branch off and get married but over time they get divorced too. You need to build a meaningful life outside of just scoring pussy so the latter is a nice cherry on top
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:34 AM
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Because the GF gives then an ultimatum or nags about getting married so they can have a child or buy a house. Lost of guys are fine just being GF/BF. they don't want to change something that is working fine for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:45 AM
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Because the GF gives then an ultimatum or nags about getting married so they can have a child or buy a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:41 AM
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One segment if that post war era did yes, but only some of the millions not all had to fight in Vietnam but there would have been apprehension, plus also depends on the country too. Not everyone here is from US.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:47 PM
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It’s not a gendered issue. Men also treat women they’re more attracted to and enamored with more lovingly and respectfully. True lots do. The hookup, casual sex scene does distort the perceptions though, with that the less attractive women will get attention (not that that's the be all end all for them) plus when it comes to good looking men, a lot of women will throw their rule book out the window and be eager to please any which way for those guys...inspired by lust, submissive nature, strateg…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:34 AM
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The nastiest to short men are often the short/petite women. 'napolean complex is often their go to for flipping the rejection back on the guy. Short men have my empathies, as I was not short but many yrs was skinny so can relate with been seen as not good enough, and for me the women with the most 'talk to the hand' , 'get lost' type attitude were the skinny/slim/petite women, so it does reduce your options which a lot of longterm relationship normies just didn't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:25 AM
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I have not known that many tall women (5'11 up) but they were all really nice women with DTE nature. From taking to one of them who was gorgeous she explained that being tall and lanky during adolescence made her feel insecure and not fit in with the other girls and was not 'ideal' pretty or cute. Naturally this effected her personality, confidence and outlook. She said she only started to feel 'hot' when she was 22 as she was getting hit on all the time when she went out to clubs and by tall go…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:01 AM
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Yes death taxes or estate taxes got wound back a lot during the last 40 yrs and with the property boom many boomers are multi millionaires and there is going to be unparalled wealth transfer to come. I can see it in one branch of my family that did not have many children the dotted on grand-daughter ciuld very well inherit up to 6 properties that today would be worth at least $8m. If she sticks to the trend of only having 1 children that child will never have to work and so on down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:37 AM
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There is only so many jobs (code/learn coding or data science) in this sector however without it becoming saturated. Ideally when choosing a career you need to look long term as well as short term and sometimes be a little counter cyclical. In saying that I still do think it is a great field that covers many sectors but ideally you specialize in a niche
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:36 AM
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Go back to the boomer generation and it was so different. young people were able to take a year off after school and go on surfing safaris if they wanted. If they stayed in the country they would all go on the dole and rent a great place on the coast and just surf and fuck and drink and do up cars. There was no stress about find a job or worrying about getting grilled over a gap in a resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:30 AM
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lol. I see they are making a movie on this character. The other characters (well real life ones) that are like this that I've known down at my old hardcore gyms + the big names that used to work on the pro scene BB scene pre 2000 (before steroids were talked about more openly) was that they never took steroids and all their huge physique was due to insane dedication in the gym and kitchen + theses endorsed supplements . lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:20 AM
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People like to pretend they earned all their advantages through hard work though lol. I've known a number of both men & women who are good looking genetically and who do real well on the dating/relationship/hookup scene over the years who very much used to promote this aspect. Their success was due to dedication, working out, charm & confidence which they had to work to develop, effort in going out and meeting people, effort to be a good conversationalist, and so on. Yes they did that but so do …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:48 PM
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I agree the unconventional guy is not going to be Jonah Hill or Paul Giamatti or DJ Qualls (tho this guy was a model) or David Spade or Ray Romano or Snoop Dog or a Kevin James. The guy is typically going to have the hot guy attributes except facially or in behavior wont be conventionally pinup hot...ie Adam Driver. the person wont have broad appeal but more so niche appeal. Benedict Cumberbatch supposedly has a strong female fan base but in his case I do think he really is unconventional hot . …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:41 AM
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From what I've observed a big factor in this is how attractive the woman or man in the equivalent case is, as shallow as it sounds. Any combination of plain, frumpy really overweight, bossy, prudish, aloof/depressed with a woman who is struggling in the dating market will tend to not get a lot of sympathy from men. Not that they will be reveling in her loneliness or mocking her struggles but rather she just wont be part of empathy or focus. Just like the same is for struggling, nerdy, shy, unatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:38 AM
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I think the consciousness aspect will be a dozen generations away at least and something they will need to debate then. I only hope the right people make the decisions and not vested interest$.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:16 AM
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True, though the biggest clientele segment of brothels is supposedly men who have pay to pay to get nookie, yet its not popular in many countries. In principle I agree vast majority of women really dont care what less desirable men get up to in their spare time though I think this would still be as controversial as prostitution. Yes a suave Jude Law gigalo android or a Viking barbarian with huge cock android I'm sure would sell pretty well too even if its for the over 40 crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:20 AM
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There you go. That's what l thought the argument would be that it would encourage men to see women simply as sex objects. I think the VR girlfriend in the movie Blade Runner 2049 where she is more a companion + girlfriend rather than just a personal fuck buddy would be much more favoured by men in the future and would be less open to criticism by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 11:56 PM
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If there is any chance a synthetic girlfriend could became that lifelike and replace a woman as a sex partner the feminists will start campaign to shame the men who use them and if that failed I'd expect some sort of legislation to cripple the design so it is not too good a substitute. Something like a synthetic pleasure model would be practical in mining towns or for handicap or disabled men (and women). I think the Asian countries will trail blaze in this sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:53 PM
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Yes it will go to T&A. Both of those have their limitations, of course it depends from where you start. For a slender build lady there can can be a fair bit of leeway up to curvey for her, but for the woman who starts out naturally curvy already then it wont take a lot to get a bit of a fat butt and boobs heavier than she 'd prefer. There are guys out there who still love big T&A BBW women if all the extra just went there, but so often it will also go to her waist....as it does so to for men. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:15 PM
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The other aspect that impacts on the OP's lament is that as a single man he is focused on single women 25 or 30 up. As the slim/slender/skinny/petite/fit/athletic women get snapped up it means those regional percentages blow out when it comes to % overweight and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:39 PM
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I don't know if I'd consider the time is that limited. If she takes care of herself...16 to 46 (fuck what some guys like to say about the wall being in late 20s). Those are the prime years of your life, and if you are going to be sexy/desirable that's the age bracket to do it in, and there after the pressure is off - post dating, children & marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:34 PM
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Being a chubster does not effect men's sex appeal like it does women's. There are plenty of women who don't mind the dad bod (over 30) as it takes the pressure off them + also weight for men tends to be more distributed so that they get the beefy look which for a lot of women is fine as it does not damage their masculine image.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:28 PM
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I lived in a city like this during that same age, and I definitely could relate to the OP's lament - where 140lb woman is considered sexy by that attribute alone. So many slim/petite/slender build women you could tell (both online + IRL and also the single moms) rated themselves a catch and the reality is they were very sort after and not that common on the singles scene, and would typically get snapped up quick or would date around (the divorcees or career ones post LTR breakup) but with the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:25 PM
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Bingo. I used to cop shit for wanting a slim girlfriend as a thin build fit guy and in the end just do what others did, and not mention physical preference (lots of women have very clear physical preferences but it gets wrapped under 'great chemistry'), and deflect on those attributes you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:08 PM
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I day say they would happily take either. If they are going to be single for numerous years it would help their mental well-being if they got a bit of NSA sex each year before some woman decided to take them on as a boyfriend. At the same time too though many of these guys would actually enjoy some NSA sex as primary outcome and not a consolation. They would like to be a success in the hookup culture just as much as relationships. I'd say there are 3 aspects to this. One - If they are going to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 03:57 PM
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I feel the same and strongly suspect a lot more men are conscious of this than in previous eras due to change in culture -- independence of women, hookup culture, delayed marriage, social media + online dating. if you hang out with some good looking men and observe how women are for them, you too want that level of eagerness to please in your girlfriends that these guys get in their hookup women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 05:52 AM
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Interesting I dont see it too often. I have seen it in a couple who were more outgoing and hung out with groups of other single women in bars/clubs and possibly had higher expectations based on who who their slim friends landed + who they hookup with...ie their SMV vs RMV. Like that Rebel Wilson character in 'how to be single' movie. I didn't see it too often. the thing is though I guess the lower you are on the SMV the greater the flack for wanting someone who is not fat or petite/skinny. Over …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 05:13 AM
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It's crazy. I assume most tests guys have done involve average looking women in mid 20s. Well those crazy high responses keep on happening thru 30s & 40s for slim women because they make up smaller %. A little while back there was this slim health conscious woman with cool personality l liked a lot and wanted to date but things were on hold while she dealt with health issues. She got better and friends suggested she go on tinder and that was it I wasn't a contender anymore and she was always bus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 04:49 AM
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Your first paragraph - Ugh some do so this. Though it's phrased in terms of skinny or built like a model or simply wanting thin woman = wanting a hot woman. I was thin for numerous years and found it hard to get thin girlfriend and often id get told I had unrealistic expectations by both men + women but more so with women, who viewed thin as not the natural norm now - a higher expectation, which a thin guy doesn't have the right to expect. I don't hang crap on fat women but do wonder why some do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:17 AM
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and that’s including average face women where if they’re not fat they are on the upper part of the s curve lol they are and that's the disillusioning aspect about it. I'm gen x and I know a number of decent looking men who have said when it comes to hookup - its pretty much 'don't be fat' itats the hurdle for decent looking (not hot) guys so some pretty average (looks + personality + lifestyle) slim women have an inflated opinion of themselves i find, but they do get the options (hookups + relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 11:23 PM
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Others have responded but just want to add.... A. so many times I've seen a thick/but chubby women get fat post marriage. B. Because they comprise a big % of the population and guys chose the best they fancy & can get from the pool of singles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:11 PM
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When I've viewed porn and there is a slim build woman in it often you will see her described as skinny and for me growing up a 'genuine' skinny dude, that woman from my perspective is normal, but I find it funny that what was regular ol slim back say pre 2000 is now skinny ("Feed that girl a burger" typically shows up in the vid comments)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:08 PM
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Being not fat is a biggie. I don't know why women don't understand that. It absolutely is. I'd be interested to see the stats on slim women messaging on dating apps. When I did OLD it was so obvious the higher expectations of the slim women on there vs the overweight (BBW or bigger classification) women, simply because they knew they had more options. A couple of slimish women I know got over 1000 men wanting to date them. Plain looking slim women and skinny skanky looking women have no shortage…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:01 PM
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Some guys do mock skinny women for flat ass or small breasts but they are a minority and skinny/petite build women do well when it comes to getting guys, even though most of them will complain they wish they had bigger T&A to have the perfect body. On the amateur porn sites so many guys rave on over skinny women and the ones I knew did way better then me when it came to dating/hookup then when I was a skinny no butt dude. They got decent personality + build guys and didn't have to get desperate …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:31 PM
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yes it is a stretch that mush difference in looks. It takes a lot of wealth to bridge that gap and achieving that for the average joe guy is not easy to the extent that is becomes somewhat impractical advice in terms as saying men have this advantage and any ol guy can date a super model if he applies himself towards success.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 05:22 PM
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One thing I will add in terms of women being stuck with 'just their god given looks' and that looks as such comprise both face and body and with the later both M + F can improve things here...in fact for women they don't really need to hit the gym for regular workouts unlike a guy, as all they need to do is remain slim. One the changes I have noticed compared to when I was young is 'butter face' women, and how the term is not as bad as it used to be in terms of limiting such a woman's options, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 05:17 PM
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There is wide spread negative bias out there by Caucasian women as regards Asian men, however given that this woman above actually in a serious relationship with a Japanese man, I think you are off the mark with your comment to her, and I think mentioning his nationality while you could say is redundant to the topic, imo I dont agree that she painted a negative stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:59 AM
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I have a couple of female friends who complains about this aspect of men and they have both slept with a lot of guys (50+ at least) and I just don't get it when they complains that all men are shit and she has never had a decent lover (except 1). I think a huge factor in it is either : A. they are bitter that the hot guys they are DTF for never wife/gf them up except the one who did marry one but then was very controlling of her. B. They typically go for the alpha, cocky edgy type dudes, or the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 11:58 PM
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> Are feminine women looked down upon No way. feminine women are more popular than ever as there is less of them these days. they are popular from the nerd to the jock just that the chad types are going to be more assertive in trying to snag them, but trust me the less masculine more cultured type of men are going to appreciate you, just that they will probably want some decent indicators of interest back from you. as for the macho dudes busting your chops it is a bit of classic play on women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 11:03 PM
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Supposedly it says abandoned but l don't know if this is slanted term used by the authors if the study who also limited to only a couple of conditions and my guess is it get a more OMG outcome. I'm sure this study has been critisised over its validity in the past but l bet a factor that is not mentioned is older US couples divorcing when faced with exorbitant medical costs as a deliberate strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 02:41 AM
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Yep okay 8 is beautiful sexy territory and 7 is more like attractive and 6 pretty. When I was younger and hornier the reality is a lot of typically average (5-6) girls were attractive, desirable and lots of guys were/are fine having an average girlfriend, though the average weight of people has gone up over the last 30 odd years which is a distortion factor. Another factor which impacts ranking discussion is some of these women that I know are older and while I call them 'reasonably' attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 05:33 AM
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Spot on and matches my experience. Deal with it yourself or with your mates or if your an American then your therapist but don't paint a weaker image of yourself in her eyes. they typically are not interested in building up your self esteem or helping you deal with personal issues (that's your role for her)...maybe if she was your long term wife, but typically not a gf. I'd learned the hard way and would rather risk the relationship being stoic than being vulnerable or expressing my insecurities…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 06:54 AM
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Yeh no those women typically are not going to be the sex and the city type women. I worked with stem women and accounting/finance women and they typically were not the type to get drunk on happy hour Friday's and go home with a random guy. Over whelmingly they were in relationships. The women who did liberal arts degrees, marketing, law, HR, property degrees were more up for nsa tho l noticed. Women without university degrees I don't think are any more chaste imo. As others have mentioned marryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:55 AM
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80/20 split means that one Chad is sleeping with multiple women at any given time. That's not necessarily how it works exclusively, with harems or spinning plates, but more so its a case of the chads sleeping with a continuous procession of women who are fine having NSA sex with these guys between their serious LTRs. Lots of women will dismiss the 80/20 as rubbish because they reference it back to LTRs where it would mean they are sharing a boyfriend/husband with 4 other women, which in the over…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:31 AM
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Women also don’t put up with men’s nonsense regardless of how she feels about him. I agree with your concept but not exactly on this line. I cant remember the exact saying but its something like...women break their rules for the chads and make rules for the betas (when it comes to dating & relationships), and that definitely happens for a lot of women. If she is lust with the guy, the blinkers are on and they put up with a lot of crap there is no way they would tolerate from a regular joe dude. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:08 PM
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The stripper scene is a weird and different dynamic. I've also heard of the crazy post performance suck n fuck stories as well from strippers. The women are drunk and revved up and also competitive to get the hot guy that is the centre of attention/lust by all the other women there. Also read articles from those that host them and do the stripper videos. the promoters will make sure the girls are well liquored up and revved up in woohoo mode and will have a couple of paid plants in the audience …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:36 AM
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Depends. I knew someone who paid and was not like that. She was average looking and average in personality and didnt have much of a social life and I had the impression she didn't want to date the same as her. She wanted the experience of a really handsome rugged man as well as the full on romantic, sensual & seductive caring encounter (these were specific instructions for the male who she booked through some escort agency that I think handled both M + F) and not a drunken pump. This was pre Tin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:14 AM
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Totally. For sure they love that aspect as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 11:49 PM
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Like if you're looking for a job, it's much much better to have employers find you than vice versa. Absolutely. Likewise I'd rather be in the directors chair screening auditions than the other way around. Women will complain that men have the power to chose who they approach whereas women don't get ot decide who approaches them but that's an archaic way of looking at it and the reality is they are not passive pieces of fruit on a tree that all guys can just pick (I have a female friend who descr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:31 PM
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Yep for sure. I knew a female bodybuilder who experimented with low dose T (tho it was probably in the realm of normal male levels) and she said she had to masturbate up to 5 times a day because her boyfriend couldn't handle the demand on her libido. I'm older now and have decent T levels but lower libido and the % of women that turn me on is definitely a lot less, whereas I would have had sex with every girl in my HS graduation class if they hit me up for it. Like women I'm fussier now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:23 PM
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Saying what they are looking for in a man, or the type of guy they want for a boyfriend is not the same as them saying what turns them on when asked point blank which is more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 02:52 AM
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Why? What difference does it make, as long as he's nice to you? Isn't it the case that him being an asshole to everyone else gets you what you want and need? Not all women see it so calculatingly, but definitely some do. Majority of arsehole men get women and they tend to be attractive women as well. Maybe these women are submissive with no strong father figure. I've worked with executive women who date the dominant jerk type men and say as long as he treats them well then its good as they are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 11:26 PM
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good way to cheer up your existence and add some spice and excitement to your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:29 AM
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thats it!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 11:37 AM
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The end result is I spend time dating women I'm not over-the-moon about, and then end up dumping around the two-month mark I suspect this happens a LOT with OLD. The women who select 'not looking for anything serious' will be fine with this or those choosing obvious fuckbois, but a lot of women will get disillusioned over time. A lot of guys will start dating a women just to get a result if they are having hard time getting a date with a women that is equivalent of what they would have dated via…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 06:36 AM
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I know. They can get away with it more, though that's because guys are more shallow in the respect but l do think lots of guys when dealing with the frustration of OLD start to play more by women's rules over time and become more judgemental themselves and will skip lame profiles or just go seek nsa on those ones
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:29 AM
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what aspects do they mostly bitch about? are they young or middle aged?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:53 AM
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Id say they do both without doubt but don't seem to want a relationship. Women who stay slim + feminine looking in their 30s can still be sexy and if they are with with fit younger guys they go all out with the raunch/kink to impress and have no constraints on a young guy + less BS unlike a younger woman would do. The guys are a bit on the rough side. I'd say the fwbs run their course by 6-9mth mark tops They are not tied down and 37 would be their tops but for girlfriend would date early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 06:40 AM
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When l made my comment it definitely excluded those just staying in shape or just keeping fit, and was more directed at those trying to get instagram physique
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:36 AM
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That's legit motivation there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 01:04 AM
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Its is just my opinion but I find the vast majority of people who work out and have good physique claim it is strictly for themselves to feel better about themselves even though many leverage it for dating/hookups. Even people who are not currently pursuing a partner are going to be getting the validation of higher appeal, though I agree there are other advantages to working and its not exclusive but working out like crazy I would say is a step beyond that. What is 'looking attractive' is very m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:53 PM
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A couple definitely did when they were sexier (typically relationships were STRs) a couple slept with them or had fling with them, again when a number of years back when they were sexier and DTF between relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:18 PM
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it is much more the case than the random dude trying to chat her up in the cafe, bar or shopping center. This threat of violence is way overstated imo. For sure many will have encountered a guy who gets a bit pushy for going back to her place on a date or a guy who gets pushy as to why a woman wont go out with him, and this will freak out unassertive women who dont know how to politely deflect those guys but we are living in very safe times in modern western society which very much take threats …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:09 PM
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weary of the fact men can & do damage us when we reject unwanted advances...a women is often lucky if she gets off unscathed. That is soo rare though in the modern western societies. How many stories are there of the guy who flirted with lady in the supermarket and she knocked him back and then when she went out to the carpark he bashed her of abducted her. Much more typically on the bad case scenario is that the guy will have a bit of attitude when rebuffed or he will put the woman on the spot …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:45 AM
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For women and their prospects its going to be the good, the bad & ugly. If they are talking to audience that is supportive or talking to a bit of a cocky good looking guy, they will focus on the tales of being with the 'good' and their great experiences and how well they do on the dating scene. If they are talking to guys that are complaining about dating they then focus on the 'bad' and how its no great advantage being a sexy woman and the dating advantage is with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:10 AM
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When this topic comes up with my female friends they typically claim its the opposite and they are more the victims and men have male privilege, but you can pick up in conversation soon enough that they are very much talking about the top 20% alpha guys (they get lo sleep with them but the guys call the shots as to whether there is going to be a relationship or how special they view the woman) and extend their lifestyle, options & attitude out to the other 80%. These are the guys they fall head …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:58 PM
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I think becoming charismatic is lot harder than people online like to think when they say become it. Its hard to distill confidence out of thin air in the absence of other changes. Can you just pick what type on the Myers–Briggs personality profile you want and become it by force of will?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:56 AM
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From what I've observed the so called ugly dudes who have a lot of confidence/charisma are also typically very rugged macho generally bigger build high T/HGH men, so the physique + masculinity offset the lack of beautiful face as well as the charisma. A cant think of a good well known example of the top of my head as most celebs typically aren't ugly. Maybe someone will call George Costanza or Kramer or Nueman this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:45 AM
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having a big dick wont make you hot on the dating scene but will get you laid with older women if they hear about it, typically thru other women or guys in the social circle mentioning it, but it wont otherwise. Though hookup sites and sending through a dick pic might work. Big muscles or tall height will trump a big dick way more as that is what they see when you walk into the room. Big dick energy is a bit different, and it doesn't mean you have to have a big dong, but just act cocky, and has …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:36 AM
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I used to be a skinny guy and was fine dating skinny, slender build women but had a hard time doing that as majority wanted bigger build guys...it was not some random distribution. Likewise lots of introvert/low confidence women dont want to date their equivalent. Overweight women were friendlier and the setup dates I got from women were with overweight women even when I told them how I was having hard time finding similar build women. Numerous smaller/thin build women over the years have talked…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 10:48 PM
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and how witty you can be A lot of Tinder text game I see if pretty lame imo, though there is some good patter, but guys now can easily copy what others have done, or use the same lines over and over. You will have to be the one to keep the conversation flowing however and cant fall into the trap too much of talking about stuff 50 other guys have previously with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 10:34 PM
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Fit + lean but not big build + not especially good looking, just avg at best so I wasnt a hit on OLD. Fit + lean + avg looking women get a ton of messages which l have to compete with to get a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 09:37 AM
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Gee. That's surprising. They were the only ones that ever cold approached me. I'm lean and workout and just was looking for similar so did not msg them. Personally I disagree with the premise that overweight men + women should be grateful for anyone and should not have any preferences. I do reckon tho that if a woman was doing OLD when slimmer and having lots of fun with hotter hookups that the expectations from then will carry thru when they chub up. Same with men too tho they don't get the cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 08:25 AM
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Single mothers pension? The commonwealth countries have it. Single mothers get paid an allowance so they can stay at home and take care of their child/children. It has been adjusted in recent years so its not as generous as once was and gets reduced out as the child gets older and is more independent. Which is why they need a PT job, plus also money from the ex as well. There also a family child allowance benefit too. Yes the party life is hard when you have to be a parent but this can happen wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 06:51 AM
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I dont get the hate for him here, though I understand he needs to get replaced by a younger sex symbol as the go to for classic hot man. I thought he looked good in movie Allied but see that's 4 yrs old now and haven't seen his last few. Those too as older unknown finance execs would pull the occasional young women, but not likely wont be swinging from young hottie to the next, but at their age keeping up with the youngster lifestyle and fucking to impress 23 yr olds is not so easy and they'd fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 06:23 AM
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I think a lot marry older men for money and have fun sex with studs on the side. Easier to do both in different phases...swing over when say 28, which a lot do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 06:04 AM
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No they are looking for fun & adventure and a dude that will make their friends will think is really cool andfor the most part are not worried about anything long term or security. Some might be interested in a mature man who takes them out to theater, fancy restaurants and exotic trips away, but that is not what inspires most when they are young..that can come later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 06:00 AM
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I've seen the experiments others have done on OLD profiles going back over the years, and sheeh it really was an eye opener. A number of these guys were not that bad looking dudes who were sweet talking overweight hillbilly women with an attitude for the chance for some nookie, though I think once you get to 50 that + the fat factor really wipes out their prospects but I haven't seen any experiments done in that age bracket. a lot lower libido 50 yr old guys are going to meh then, and IDK if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 04:26 AM
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Doing body building you can achieve success that is totally independent of the success or failure of other men, whereas that's not the case for wealth creation. 100% of men cant be successful entrepreneurs or high flying execs or cream the stock market consistently, so there is going to be a spectrum of success - mediocrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 04:10 AM
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why would a 25-year-old single mom want casual sex from a 40-year-old man if she can get a 30-year-old man for that? Which is what many are doing that, or if their in their 30s, then going younger for their FWBs. Times are changed from generations prior when younger single moms married older men for security. Now they have the single mothers pension, child benefits, child support from the ex, and part time job plus total freedom (apart from their obligations to their child/children) to live the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 12:30 AM
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https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/09/8385366/older-woman-tinder-dating-app-experience ^ This shit is not going to happen to her middle aged husband I bet. For the hype online about creepy older guys going for young women or how women over 30 have it hard too like guys, for the older singles 'I know' there are more women having sex with guys younger by 10 or more yrs than men doing the equivalent with young women. Online dating changes things, and there are sooo many younger men who are pussy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 12:09 AM
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In saying that I do think things have changed for the worse since 2000, with the rise of women in status, $ and careers (having higher expectations in all aspects of their life) + social media & aspirational marketing + online dating (shopping catalogue for a partner based on looks & stats) + hookup culture (plenty of women confuse their RMV with their SMV as lots of guys lower standards for nookie). That last aspect will be a factor why some here consider women much more hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 11:18 PM
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Whether or not it works out with that person doesn’t factor in to OPs point. I think it comes down to intent. Does the executive really want to marry his new secretary or does the middle aged family man really want to move in with his single milf neighbor or is it just enjoying the lust and excitement of new passion for a while as they miss that as much as they would miss the companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 10:13 PM
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I think horny, lonely singles guys dont think that's the case and many would rather fit in with their other friends being in an 'okay' relationship or even a short term 'well she gave me a shot' relationship. Seriously a lot of hard luck single guys wouldn't be so desperate for any relationship that came their way if they had half the same success with tinder that women are capable of to tide them over while they find someone that really hits the mark. When they are older and less dick driven or…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 10:02 PM
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'Would like' or 'holding out for' or ' actually dating/sleeping with' or 'actually asking out' or 'throwing gifts/favors at in the hopes of snagging them' I consider different levels. Modern neo liberal societies now flourish on 'because you deserve' the best type aspirational marketing that it also flows into partners, but reality is both men & women cant win out at being hypergamous when it comes to relationships, but with the imbalance on nsa sex & libidos, women can and do. The hookup scene …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:51 PM
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I wouldn't classify older men cheating as trading up as they over whelming stay with the wife & family unless she discovers the affair and decides to give him the boot. Trading up should be when you 'leave' one relationship for another because you see that new partner as superior. If the person genuinely believes the new person is a better match (not just hotter or wealthier) and they were not really happy or that the old partner was emotionally neglecting them then I wouldn't consider that trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:42 PM
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I'd say this is closer to the mark than some people's extreme pictures of the dating market. The women who are single and just dating around and keeping their options open or holding out till an amazing guy comes along (one who wants more than just a hookup) will get their focus more than the ones who paired up with a regular guy and are off the market. I do think the hookup market distorts perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:28 PM
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yeah. I dont remember how they got involved or why it needed to be bankrolled or why that particular xxx movie became such a smash though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 07:06 PM
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A number of countries have made it legal (still goes on regardless but just a lot riskier for all involved) and their societies have not collapsed. Women seem to drive the debate more I feel as its a bit harder for men as politicians or campaigners to come out and support it due to stigma as to their motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:08 AM
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Correct its irrelevant for the woman in question if she doesn't want him, and reality is she would put out the welcome mat in response back if she was, but its disingenuous to say friendzone guys are just faking it or only being friends just to get the pussy as justification for not dating them which quite a few women do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:05 AM
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Dude there is a LOT of overweight women AND men out there, they have to date each other else the % of singles would be much higher. The 'fat' women with non fat guys, yes I've seen them too but most fall on the side of 'thick', 'curvy', 'chubby' (genuine not fake label) or what happens often the woman wasn't overweight when the relationship or marriage started, but now is. My guess is those mismatched pairing stick out more for you, more so then the regular paired chubsters, and like it is for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:45 AM
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just wants to fuck Typically they want you for more - as a girlfriend, more than just being your friend and is hanging out for good IOIs back, to come out and say it. The guy in the nightclub who indicates he wants to get into your pants asap might also want to stick around and be a boyfriend but more often (esp if he is hotter or has lots of options of DTF women), will just want her for the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:03 AM
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Its both. They are are both sides..some want to have it the banned as they say it exploits women and also some to allow it for safety/lower exploitation of those who do it + also unofficially to allow them options to make $ without having a proper job (tho that's been circumvented a bit in the last 15 yrs with rise of cam girls, onlyfans, sugar baby life)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:01 AM
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Yep and on the other side is women shaming guys who do it, for the same reason would see a guy as lower value if he had to pay + they also entrench their power in the sex market and reduce a competitive option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:53 AM
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Depends where you go and what you pay. Big difference between the hoes in the back alleys of west side Chicago vs the top shelf escorts servicing Wall street execs. Trouble is you dont know how vigilant a freelance hooker is compared to if she was working in a brothel with regular mandatory STD checks, but you would always use a condom. Lots of people will freak over a hooker who gets regular STD checks but have no problems doing bareback with a drunk chick they picked up that night who regularl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:50 AM
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All guys who go out of their way to show interest in you want to fuck you, just that the friendzone guys are into you for more than your gash and will stick around and wont put their needs first, as bad or good as that is depends on who you are I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:53 AM
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You'll have to wait around while they feed and get leftover scraps then. Need to put out some enticing item$.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:24 PM
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I think childbirth is age (less firm muscles) is going to have a bigger impact as well. I find it funny how some guys think having sex with many guys over the years makes it any different than say having sex 3-4 times a week with committed guys in a handful of LTRs over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:43 AM
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doctors will tell you when it comes to erection pills a lot of time its for the benefit of pleasing the missus or keeping the new girlfriend as much as for the guy to get off with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:33 PM
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I get how tall dudes get away with adding a couple of inches to their height especially when it comes to shorter women, but knowing how long a foot is or a ruler then estimating what half that is shouldn't be considered a talent or a skill, it should be fairly basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:24 PM
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if you decide not to keep seeing someone because she doesn’t meet your physical standards Typically they are not going to get into a relationship with them to begin with and will be dismissed very soon after first meeting them with... 'he/she's not my type' or 'there's no chemistry there for me'. If the aspect that turns them off is hidden, small dick or massive pregnancy stretch marks, then typically the person is not going to say what is was and just start to ghost them or give some excuse why…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:16 PM
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My guess is he meant sleeping with too many guys or chasing guys with bigger than normal dicks, neither of which is going to be the equivalent of huge dildos and fisting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:06 PM
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Lots of women are deeply ashamed by their vulvas due to them not looking like the ones in porn, or are so worried they taste funny that they won’t let their partner eat them out That is typically built up in her mind and not the result of her hearing conversations of the men around her or from men who are criticizing her. Its going to be from immature high school boys and not men in public or boyfriends. Ive had girlfriends who have been self conscious over the most inconsequential things, not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:47 PM
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It's to get interest not a life plan I realize if its purely a strategy to get the girl by a RP guy, but I was thinking of some guys I've known who were like this and it wasn't a strategy, that was just their genuine self centered, somewhat narcissistic nature + as a few others have mentioned because if the guy is on the alpha end of the spectrum, its easy to find a replacement (abundance mentality) so they often don't change all that much in the relationship or are overly concerned they will st…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:47 AM
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was acting like you could take her or leave her, mostly likely leave, make her want to get your attention instead of fawning over her and being overly agreeable Bingo - this behavior will have him labelled by others as asshole, and also often down the line by his girlfriend after the relationship has ended when she becomes his ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 01:28 AM
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It is very much correlated I've noticed over the years, and I think some people just dont realize for the guys that have hard time attracting women for sex they also have hard time finding female friends and typically have to put in more effort to maintain the friendship. The guys that got a lot of pussy based on their looks & charm also often had female friends who didn't mind having nsa sex with them when both single and also often their female friends would set them up with others, so boostin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 01:22 AM
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If if gave it back after pretending to keep it you could call it playful. I'd call it jerk behavior without doubt, and if my drink was more than a juice or draught beer, I'd definitely call him an asshole. Doing that really runs the risk of confrontation. If he only targets smaller build guys he can probably mitigate his risk of violence but at the very least they should be reporting him to the bouncer for stealing drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 01:15 AM
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totally agree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 10:01 PM
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I thought it was the other way around...more boy babies born during and just after crises, like famine or war, and that was to compensate for the higher death toll on men. Actually just checked and there are studies which show both. Recent wars have more females being born, but past wars showed more male babies being born.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:50 AM
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I get the distortion of using celebrates as examples in PPD due to the celebrity factor, but trouble is when it comes to providing examples, its so much easier to provide well known (and hence distorted) examples that many in the forum will know of and can relate back to the posters comments than say giving an example of their co-worker or a friend or a guy down at the local pub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 01:55 AM
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The 'fat' element is the over whelming factor for me why I've become attracted to shrinking % of women as I've gotten older, and that's before taking to account personality & nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:40 AM
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As regards attractive women getting asked out - yes when it comes to random guys when she is out & about, but much less so when it comes to guys that are in her social circles or just aquatances thar get opportunities to chat with her semi regularly. They get flirted with plenty and hit on if the guy thinks he has good rapport with her and she is not far out of his league. Quite a few beautiful women will be somewhat aloof when they ate single to curb unwanted advances, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:25 AM
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I think its more a case of gonzo small time scumbag operators rather than the well known corporate porn studios. There is a lot of small time sleaze operators trying to live the dream of being a porn producers/star. An example given was a doing a scene where she was repeatedly punched in the face for a scene. what % of porn does this...0.0001% and the old Linda Lovelace case from early 70s with her pyscho boyfriend trying to get used as a typical studio experience and other porn stars complainin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 11:38 PM
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High School is such a gossipy, taunting, close knit immature environment. the negative connotations with being branded a thot are still there and strong but not as bad as being branded a slut back in the 80s/90s imo. Mainly because of how much things have shifted since, and the new normal. The SATC show for instance had a huge cultural impact and that was what 17 yrs ago. I think plenty of women will risk the rep for yolo fun, and actively take steps to avoid it outside of their co-worker, direc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:11 AM
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If he inspires raw animal lust and nothing else, she’s going to fuck him immediately and 'forget him' That last part is certaintly an assumption. Not unless he is some dumb dunb or was really selfish/pushy in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 09:48 PM
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It didnt use to be. when I checked that out 5-7 yrs ago it was 2/3 men 1/3 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 09:12 PM
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In the last 20 yrs this ^ theme has been stronger than the negative sex theme for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 09:07 PM
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"It seems like a lot of people view sex as something valuable that women give to men".....women on relationship advice forums especially (and not just ppd), and low libido/low respect wives who do transactional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 09:01 PM
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He was on OKCupid cheating on his wife. I'd love to know the actual % of guys on OKC who are in this category. I know so many women who have complained of men not being single but don't know if its an exaggeration. I would have thought its a risky proposition promoting yourself on a dating website when married. While your wife might not be trawling the date site, her sisters or friends, or cousins or co-workers or neighbors could easily be. Its another aspect of why dating is hard for the averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 06:13 AM
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with numbers is to run experiments Yeh that's how they'll do it. They will do some filter samples of say small cities (20 to 60 age range) and make estimates. Its really the hookup sites that will have a big difference in M:F. A lot of sites too will leave up inactive female member profiles to bolster their numbers. I did a number sample of the site I was on in my city for my age preference, and I just cant remember what the ratio was but I'm sure it was over 3:1. I'm not sure how much its possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 05:53 AM
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thats the idea, instead its a well used come back for the guys to put themselves in the place of the submissive and to swallow cum, deep-throat or get pegged or get whipped or collared, etc, which of course most goes dont wont, so it justifies their case for not doing it. For some women that's totally legit (they are repulsed by it) but for other high libido women there is a selective (how turned on or how much they want to win them over) aspect to whom she does what with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 04:37 AM
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Ever gone out with a great looking alpha guy as your wingman. You dont really learn any new game techniques as his looks/charisma/smile/body language are enough to win over the ladies. For sure he breaks the ice real easy with women, but he will always end up chatting to the prettiest and the other woman doesn't want you as the consolation. You will then be the grenade, but she is not going to throw herself at you so her friend can score with your hot alpha wingman, or if you do all go back to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:49 PM
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There's more boys than girls born. 105 boys : 100 girls at birth a lot of discussions on dating and the negatives men face skip over this aspect, and typically just use not the birth ratio but the alive citizens ratio which gets propped up by all the older women who outlive men, which is inconsequential from a dating/marriage aspect. and married a second wife, maybe a trophy wife I noticed this at most of the companies I worked at where the senior managers post divorce (or sometime via an affair…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:47 PM
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I'd strongly suspect the operators of the sites are not going to want to release figures that show too much of an imbalance if they want to maximize new customer signups. I remember when Ashley Madison got hacked the curious data crunchers trawled thru the data and filtered out the fake accounts & sex workers the ratio for the men on there was horrendous 140:1 while the company bragged 2.2:1, the lying fuckers. Given that the men were on a cheating website there was not a lot of sympathy for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:13 PM
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I read an article the other day from a women in early 50s who put up a tinder profile to boost her self esteem after she hit menopause. Get this she got 3000 right swipes within less than a week. she just sat back and reviewed the results or flirted with a few that intrigued her. I should mention she put her age back to 49 which put her in the 40-49 bracket which makes a big difference in not getting filtered out and she gets noticed by all the young desperate for low resistance sex cougar chase…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:22 AM
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I agree. Its a risky proposition. Some women will use it to filter out the man who they think is not able to be the rock in her life down the track or see him as weaker than she thought. I've done it and regretted it. The only time I've seen it pay off is when the woman is in a relationship with an alpha/stoic/bad boy type of man, and she gets to see this rare emotional/vulnerable side to him and she gushes over it, as it brings out the tender/nurturing/compassionate side to him. The key aspects…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:57 PM
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LBC women not wanting HBC does not happen in my area. That LBC/HBC contrast works very differently for women. Typically the guy is good looking, has some charisma, has good mojo. He is a success in the eyes of women, he is a man in demand and lots of women want to beat out what other women want. Most of the players I knew married LBC women (yes it was hypocritical of them), and the women knew their past (but not the full details) and were fine with it and saw themselves as special, snagging the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:44 PM
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I have the same mindset as the OP. the longer it goes on the more my lust for the women fades and I see them only as a friend. When I was young the slow burn 'will they wont they' flirting escalation was fine with someone in class/co-worker, but not anymore. I have tended to find the best sex relationships (she was lusty, ranchy, kinky, passionate, sensual) were were the sex happened quickly. I guess her desire to have sex with me asap was a since of her enthusiasm and it carried on in the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:56 PM
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You're about 60 years too late on that one chief... The bad boy "asshole" has been a thing since at least the 50's thanks to Rebel Without a Cause. That's what I was going to say. JD the original brooding bad boy kicked things off back in the boomer days. I'm gen x and you would have though musician was the biggest profession with the number of girls I knew who had slept with one (rock band member not cello/tuba players). Drug users/dealers certainly weren't shy of a fuck buddy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 10:43 PM
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Yes l do. It depends on the level of depression too imo.. Mildly depressive guys will still go out and will still engage with women but won't have that lust level desire to get in her pants so they won't be assertive or will give up with any mild level of resistance or lack of IOIs. Low self esteem will be tied into the mild depression for many ld guess so they ate open to having a GF or sex just not assertive in pursing it. The female equivalent have it much easier as they can easily get away w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 04:07 AM
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that right, certainly not for all of them but for some yeh. The OP says what guys can possibly be better looking at 30-40s than they were at 20...a few actually. The guys that were skinny or chubby of fat at 20 for starters. The puberty late bloomers often do. plus they will have got over their anxiousness and insecurity issues as well and often learned how to dress better. It doesn't mean they are now hot just that they are now seen as more desirable than they were in their youth, though only a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:24 PM
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The amount for bullshit I've had to endure from female partners as far as mental issues are concerned is insane, as in, if I displayed even a small fraction of their issues I'd be nexted. Dude, I can totally relate. Equality of the sexes goes right out the window on this aspect when it comes to relationships. Any A & D issues are seen as weakness (beta) or he's not going to be the rock I need in my life, or is someone to elevate my joy & adventure for life - which gets pitched as a reasonable ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:52 PM
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Exactly. Been burned on that as have a few of my friends. Discussing your feelings might be fine in a marriage, but in a relationship that's still in a STR stage, such discussions will get used by a lot of women to make a judgment call on the guy. The hotter you are the more passion she has for you the more any emotional struggles will be treated as something to bond over, but otherwise there is distinct risk it can weaken the bond. Many women don't want to deal with a 'issues project' man, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:42 PM
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Correct to a big extent and it gets missed out by the OP. I know so many anxious and depressed women over the years and they typically don't want to date their equivalent. They are looking for a guy to elevate their life experience to reduce their A+D. Someone to change their life for the better. When a guy who has A and/or D issues complains about difficulty in finding a girlfriend or picking up women for fun, the usual response from women is going to be something like 'well duh, no one wants a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 04:18 AM
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also maybe they just do un-emotional starfish sex, though that would still be good enough for some dudes....early on anyway,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:20 PM
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I'd say that women who complain about it have more problems with targeting right guys, not with their "datable" qualities to begin with. Agree. Just because a women consistently cant make it past the stage where she has sex with a guy and then that's it for him, does not mean she has to do more work to make herself more worthwhile for the guy to want to stick around. It might or it might not. It depends on the type of guys she is going for. If its consistently bad boys, players, fuk bois or men …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:14 PM
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But I see so many single women walking their dogs alone. They look sad - despite what the "strong and empowered single woman" type copers say. Same here, though I would not say sad looking is the majority. I'm gen x and of the 2 types of women I know who are single for quite a long while, its a bit of a dichotomy...those that are overweight & not feminine looking/behaving and those that are attractive and have plenty of options. Even most of the latter group are sad/low level depressed, and I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:20 PM
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Yes, more is always better, but there are plenty of women who would still sleep with the former. He'd only be ruled out for something more long-term. Correct. In these discussions quite a few people like to use the example of the dumb or uncouth or the poor/lazy or the racist/arrogant/jerks or the party animal good looking man as an example of personality trumping looks and they would get ruled out by majority of women. These guys still get laid plenty and can get STRs/flings with women that wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 10:10 PM
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Shit yeh, you hang out with a few good looking men and you'll see women make the first move, ranging from subtle to blatant - here is my room # come up in 15mins time or crotch grabbing. Its once you pass a certain threshold in looks that it starts to happen, though it has happened to me too when at bars so alcohol certainly does help to lower the threshold. The level of attraction inspires them to take a chance. the potential payoff is worth the embarrassment of a knock back if the guy is a hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 09:49 AM
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I think the later people marry or get into a serious LTR the greater the chance of settling. The more people a person sleeps with I also think there is greater chance of settling, especially for a woman, less so for a guy unless the guy was the hot dude/bad-boy in his youth and let himself go a bit (I know a few who reminisce or even carry around pics of cute exes still). I do think it still possible not to settle though with relationships as you get older if you adjust your expectations & prior…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 02:39 AM
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I agree with you on this. Even 40+ you can still pull it off if you look good for your age and assuming its not exclusively a 'hot young pretty things' type nightclub, but one that caters for a bit more of a mixed crowd, but also as you say the older person is not a try hard to look & act younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 12:25 AM
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That's what I've found more. Its the wives who view their husband's bachelor buddies with scorn & suspicion much more than the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 11:36 PM
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watch what they do not what they say But in your case, what he did > start up a relationship with you. What he told you > was that you were not a challenge. That depends - a challenge to get you is one thing but a challenge for a relationship can be a pain in the ass for a lot of guys. Anyway it just seemed the outcome for you was the opposite of what you say, but I get that you are saying this in the context of other responses here. I guess it depends on the definition of 'pursue'. A woman can …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 11:30 PM
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I think the OP is just postulating that. Maybe high school kids think it. I know a few guys that have slept with lots of women and are cynical who think that women who flirt with them and sleep with them same day but say 'I dont normally do this', are lying. They dont say they are low value, but they expect she's done it many times, because its a cliche for them. The rarer such an event is for a guy or the closer in looks the girl is to him, then much less likely that statement is going to get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 11:18 PM
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I agree for a lot of low initiative women the gender approach tradition is a cover and one of the few old gender norms they want to keep under the the guise of 'real men' do this. At the same time, its not exclusively a case of laziness but also low confidence too. A few drinks certainly helps a lot of women I find. Also she doesn't have to actually hit on the guy, but simply can start up a conversation to get the ball rolling. For a lot of guys that rarely/never get approached that's like layin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:49 PM
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Sorry that's nonsense. 20 is still very young. Even at 30 its possible to be a redpilled late bloomer but chances are you'll have to make conscious effort rather than believe in the 'just be yourself' advice. At your age its the happy go lucky, yolo golden years with young women and you'll regret not being more proactive now, later in life (I know its not easy for some).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:03 PM
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Older men are looking for younger women for LTRs whereas there are plenty of older women who are not interested in young men for relationships, but are fine with them for flings, hookups for the validation & reliving their youth & the yolo spirit. While it might not be your cup of tea, I know more older women scoring young dudes than older men getting chicky babes. They don't go out of their way to seek it but its why some of the sexier older women complain about young men are like mosquitoes on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:31 PM
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Some good points raised here as regards looks vs personality. Yes lots of average joe guys do get girlfriends and do end up in relationships, but are they getting lust as well as companionship/love. If you've enjoyed a woman that is eager to please, makes your happiness a priority, cuts you slack on flaws/fuck-ups you will know the difference and you should have observed the difference with the success of your friends and how their looks relate to those of your friends that : have exes come back…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:16 PM
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I've known of a few but the BB typically isnt some rich guy, but just a stable, good earner with his own house which is not the case for the woman. Also the AF part of the equation is not always made up of classic successful alpha leader types, but more often than not bad-boy types who they desperately want to win over. I've seen it mostly in women who were not university educated or with decent careers, and their focus when younger in life is more on living the yolo life but with the end game o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:21 PM
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You need to allow for the fact that anonymous internet forums are not going to bring out the best in many frustrated posters. I totally get where you are coming from but in real life I've known a number of bitter guys who keep a lid on their attitude/bitterness when they approach or try to chat up women. They are not that clueless. As they get older that bitterness / frustration comes to the surface quicker soon after they bomb out. Often they just don't have much in the way of charm or easy goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 08:30 AM
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Agreed, but using a marketing analogy - having a list of pre-vetted prospects that are fine greeting you at the door is going to make your day a lot easier than door knocking every house in random streets in the hopes of of getting a sale. Having doors open for you definitely makes life easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 08:18 AM
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A lot of RP guys are older men who have been divorced or been around long enough to witness the changes in society + to have seen enough examples of the aspects of the RP that get discussed and so can relate to it with life experience, probably more so than the young people on here though they might be a little out of touch on the latest trends, but many redpillers are not naive live all their life on the www types. When it comes to anecdotal evidence some like to discredit it entirely which I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:41 AM
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trash - for those who didn't go to university, is a somewhat harsh. Women should be able to skip the genuine trailer park yobs without the education filter though. As for most women doing this as acceptable, it ideally (in theory) should be just the university education women entitled to do this. In reality there are plenty of blue collar women out there as well, but not sure how many on OLD are trying to date up on education level. Maybe industrial automation dude can filter out any woman who l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 03:18 PM
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If you are in America i think things have not gone down this path...yet, but in the commonwealth countries or Scandinavia it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:56 AM
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Not many people really want a nanny state telling them how to live their life or interfering in their personal lives. That used to be done by the church (not necessarily welcomed by all) but that has a much reduced influence in young people's lives, so its now an unregulated market where the internet media has more influence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:20 PM
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Lots of people have a herpes simplex virus without realizing it. As for getting it and explaining it to your future spouse you could have got it from the first person you had sex/kissed with or the hundredth person. For sure the odds are the more people you sleep with the greater the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:14 PM
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I think that scenario (someone who is really kinky with her current partner) would work for a lot of late bloomer partners, much more so for the guys as they would typically relate the higher raunch/kink factor with desire for them, and make them feel more special despite her having hooked up with a heap of others. The raunchiest sex I had was when I was doing the best with body building (pattern repeated over different periods) with flings & ONS contrasted with when I was skinny and was with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:24 AM
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I agree with this being an oversold theme on the dating/relationship scene. I don't doubt there was truth in it a couple of generations back, especially with the greatest gen + boomer gen, but its become less and less true imo, but past era dating themes can still get repeated. If you live in a major metro area especially in a neo-liberal country you know the cost of living is high and having a good earning partner definitely makes a good lifestyle easier to attain. For the successful women I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:07 AM
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Well in childhood the media consumed then really is not going to focus on women's pleasure and I still don't see how you got that impression instilled than your parents. In past generations especially in the eras where the wife was a SAHM there was the theme that was the flip side of the 'happy wife happy life' theme, but I cant recall (as a male) where 'women's pleasure' was deemed bad, just that it wasn't emphasized, not that sex was emphasized much in the msm when I was growing up much. Take …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 08:28 AM
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I know that I've had guilt instilled in me from day 1 to believe that my pleasure isn't important Instilled by who? Certainly not women's magazines, and I doubt its going to be the msm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:17 AM
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I agree that age bracket which could be extended to 16-24 are prime years, despite what someone else may say as regards men hitting their peak in their 30s...yeh their marriageable peak but those horny youth years are their biological prime combined with no obligation foot loose freedom years. There is no concern by govt or medical bodies over the fall in testosterone levels over the last 40 yrs, I cant see them caring about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 06:32 AM
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I agree with you. A number of the guys I've known who struggled were regular guys, just not big risk takers, on the introvert side, kind of boring (fine for a male friend but not for a single woman looking to add excitement to her life), and just not good looking but also not especially unattractive and some just did not put themselves in situations where they could get to meet new single women much. The longer a guy stays single the more awkward he is going to feel and I feel that gets reflecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:09 AM
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Interviewing just the singles will distort the outcome, but hard to say by how much. Looking at some of the women I know there definitely is the tendency for those long term single to shag guys in the meantime while they hold out for 'the one'. Also there are going to be the longterm single women who are too overweight or unattractive along with & shy/insecure/health or mental issues, etc especially over 30. Also I'm sure there is going to be variation in definition of casual sex. A number of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:58 AM
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lol. Yes now there are more polite/disorder based terms. Its also no longer acceptable to bully the weird/different kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:46 AM
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Deregulated is not quite the right word imo, more like 'Disrupter' suits it better, but I agree with your theme. It has distorted dating and tended to create a bigger gap between winners and losers and expectations. The OPs premise I believe does have merit along with endocrine disruptiers, maybe also modern diet and gut microbionome but these effect more only a subset of susceptible individuals and is not as far reaching as OLD & Social Media is in the neo-liberal societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:41 AM
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I'm not quite sure if it's the same thing though in this respect from men when they ate dating women or even when in a relationship. Testing to see if he's the best she can do Vs pre date banter is not same imo. When l did online dating i started out with short template style msgs with no luck then longer style msgs specific to her profile or what ld been up to that was exciting, still high ignore rate. Then I had a don't give a shit attitude anymore and sent short smartarse msgs, now l was gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 11:27 PM
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I too find this scenario bizarre in NYC. My guess is when she 'was crushed for a long time's meant she was emotionally closed off for a long time so zero IOIs for any guys that had an interest in her and if they are STEM guys that tend to not be cocky assertive types and will see her as not interested and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:27 PM
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Ssshh, they might lie now (actually they already do or give a vague response or a shaming response) Depends on the chad or cad how much a deal high n count is, but for flings/ONS/STRs it absolutely doesn't matter. For the ones I've known they didn't make a big fuss about it as they dont want to put women off side, but when it came to the fiance they tended to pick a different type. As for the former nerds, many have the opinion...not good enough for fun then, not good enough for commitment now..…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:20 AM
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Absolutely this is a factor that is not reflected in the stats. Older single men who are doing well with their career, finances, lifestyle very much get sort out by older women and get set up all the time by female co-workers or women in their social groups. I also notice many older single women seem to be on ADs and not so much the men so I suspect that will also be a factor in their ability to cope. In saying that I do think the RP over plays how great life is for older single men, though I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 02:29 AM
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(In my opinion) it's neither logical nor really beneficial to prefer a partner that is up to a feet shorter than you Tell that to the short women. Though I have heard a couple justify it for future offspring reasons. The preference is stronger for the short women than it is for the tall men for that pairing so the shorter women will make themselves more available to those guys in the hope of relationship/hookup. Just as some short women say they love feeling dominated/towered over and feeling mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 11:20 PM
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No, of course not, just that for some it shows through with an attitude, but my main point is its not easier meeting an attractive women just because she is in her 30s compared to her early 20s, because when she was younger she may have been more insecure about her looks or hadn't slept with a swag of hot/successful guys yet. I guess the ones I find where its misplaced is the average (life & looks) thin build women who think that, but the reality is they are sort after by guys in their 20s/30s/4…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 10:53 PM
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Its 2 yrs where I live but if a guy is well off financially and is dating someone who is not so well off they need to get acquainted with the local laws (and probably some key cases) so he can make a fully informed decision and no just go with the flow or be pressured by her...'if you really love me you'll let me move in with you' style. Absolutely I bet there are guys out there who are divorced and been thru the mill or dating women they know are not going to be his ideal wife/mother and is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 04:17 AM
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make a company and then put her on the payroll so you can give her money that way. I think that would be a good way around this. I also thought a discretionary family trust was a way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 04:03 AM
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I know I thought that case was shocking. I do realise he had been with her for numerous years and helped to pay for her lifestyle and acted as she was his partner in front of others, but he proposed and she knocked him back. Her rejection of him should have been enough to over-rule the other elements plus throw in the fact that she had already benefited by hundreds of thousands of dollars and made no contribution to her career rise or to raising his children. It was a terrible decision imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 04:00 AM
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Japan..just another weirdness aspect, but in this case I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:19 AM
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This must be some distorted statistic that also includes children, pensioners, prisoners, disabled, people already married...ie the entire population, which is okay if its compared to the same statistic in past eras. Quite a lot of people I know are not getting married but just living as a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:16 AM
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I guess it depends what is worse the trauma of going thru a major breakup and starting a new life and having limited access to your kids or getting smashed financially. (Neither is good). If the latter then guys just need to be more like women and stop marrying down financially. Still a lot of men don't want to undertake a project that has a high % of failure if they can still get some of the benefits without having to go all in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:14 AM
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The rules get changed so that marriage is not needed anymore and co-habitation for a couple of years is all thats needed to qualify as a defacto marriage. Some countries already have this. In fact there was a case that got the manosphere riled up a few months back where the couple did not even live together but he lost of lot of his assets (was wealthy) because he acted like they were a long term couple in front of others. Canada I think it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:08 AM
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That's nuts, having such restrictions as they would wipe out so much content if not unilaterally invoked (which is not the case of course). I've had posts deleted on msm forums when Ive carefully & diplomatically worded responses that differed from the 'men bad, woman victim or innocent motive' theme. I expect to get voted down, but selectively removing posts does paint a a fake news theme and keeps it to the agenda of the journalist. I get why they might not mention it, but find it annoying whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:35 AM
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They want you to love yourself, but also lose 30 pounds, “be yourself and love yourself single ” but also “tips to make him fall in love” etc etc, so indeed mixed messages galore Yep. Its schizo. I think it is changing a bit, maybe older female execs are pushing through the resistance, but young females are probably the golden goose marketing demographic so they carry a lot of clout and they like to view pretty just as much as men (maybe more so). Marketers, hollywood, the msm will have to segme…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:23 AM
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We are never kind to women aging, only to men aging. Totally not the point of this post but I wanted to point out another double standard that can contribute. When I flip thru women's mags while waiting at the checkout or at doctors, I find they send mixed messages. Love celebrating weight loss and at same time will show unflattering photos of celebs but at same time show lots of shots of pretty younger celebs but at same time celebrate older women like Elle McPherson who still look fantastic (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:55 AM
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younger women are just... more pleasant. Less jaded. Less combative. More submissive. Happier. More appreciative. The list goes on really. It’s not just about looks. Though that is certainly another plus. This is a major factor (is for me and a few of my friends) that often gets glossed over in discussions of the topic by women where the focus is on the younger woman being pretty & dippy/naive/gullible/easily manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:44 AM
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Yes men love youth but they love NEWness more Yes. Some of these celebs who dated very attractive younger women, surprising often cheated with women nothing like that and certainly not nubile young women. Newness & enthusiasm count for a lot for the long term relationship guy. You have women here complaining about men trading in for younger models (citing wealthy/celebs) but also saying no way are younger women going to want to date older men, so where is the reality. Its not like that for it wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:36 AM
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And because older men have lower sex drives, they have less interest in sex. So they are not desperate enough to settle for what they do not find attractive. This is an aspect. Older guys are not as horny but their brains are still wired the way nature set them up when they first started to find teenage girls attractive. They may mature but the lizard brain still finds young women sexy as (maybe not so much their personalities anymore), but secondary to this is his diminishing libido, and older …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:17 AM
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I dont disagree with you, but I also suspect the subset of men who are really ambitious business wise also have a type of personality that differs. Money is a means to acquire the trappings of status over others and to buy/enjoy the better things in life, and many of them will view pretty younger woman in that way. I'm sure they might suspect it but she is not the focus of his life. Also with a lot of older less successful men hitting on younger women, I do think they are clueless but also for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 12:20 AM
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Your last comment is definitely a relevant factor for why the OPs comment about men always trading up to an increasingly younger woman is not going to keep happening as he becomes less dick driven as well as the fact that he needs to be loaded it a celeb like Leo or Jeff Goldblum who just had a baby at 62 to be able to pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 10:53 PM
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"hot women beyond 30" with no kids and no attitude and doesn't rate herself a hot catch, is definitely in very limited supply and they know it and they are as much sort after as she was at 20 so it's not like she is an easier option for the nerds she wouldn't talk to then that now hoping to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 10:45 PM
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It is definitely a factor for guys that missed out in sex in their teens and early 20s. They want to make up for it and have more fun loving & sexy years at least when they are older. I don't blame them, though that aspect is going to be seen as totally irrelevant from woman's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 10:37 PM
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Correct - a lot more plus they won't think they are as as much a catch as the 36+yr old with no kids who is still feminine and in shape plus younger woman has fun loving attitude & no emotional baggage plus much better likelyhood she is going to still be sexy in 15yrs time. I've known a number of women whose sex appeal greatly faded from 36 to 39. Sure I know women over 40 who are still sexy but they are not common singles and they have a lot of middle age guys (and young dudes looking to bang) …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 10:31 PM
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Yes that is a very relevant aspect. With each year in age there is less % wise who have a sexy figure and those that are - know it, and tend to rate themselves a catch and tend to want a buff/tall or good earning guy. An average 24yr old is going to be just as desirable figure wise & more so looks wise plus she is going to have an easy going fun loving attitude with less emotional baggage which is also a big turn on aspect. Feminine slim/fit women in their mid/late 30s who aren't single moms are…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 10:14 PM
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To mask natural body odor which is deemed stinky & create a more attractive odor associated with us. Also I don't doubt marketing depts at perfumeries, deodorant and cosmetics companies years ago created a desire in us to want to be seen as more attractive to the opposite sex via scent and that natural body odor was not an attractive odor. Many years prior I bet perfume as a sign of class/status/wealth to distinguish the person from the great unwashed masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 01:22 AM
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They often describe it as wanting a guy with great chemistry. A guy that gives them the tingles between their legs & butterflies in the stomach
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 11:13 PM
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I would have thought that the relevant man & woman would have to get fairly close to pickup on the odor and that perfume & cologne would mask the odor making it harder to detect a bad match.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 11:11 PM
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I find with both sexes especially when younger that there seems to be a level of physical attraction going on when it comes to friends of the opposite sex. The guys I knew who struggled with getting GFs also struggled to get genuine female friends and vice versa for the equivalent women, though not as much because guys always chasing nookie. Female friends were more like acquaintances, friendly co-workers, GFs of friends, relatives, or as you say often the guys had to work to keep the friendship…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 10:48 PM
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I agree with your assessment. Yeh a lot of guys do have character trumping personality when it comes to other guys as they don't have any attraction to them so relate to them differently. Also I find guys will often see the true nature of a guy they know that women won't (early on anyway) because the guy will keep those aspects low key while they try to charm their way into the girl's life. ie: Real jerk vs cocky funny teasing flirting jerk while trying to get into her pants. In the case of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 10:37 PM
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I'm gen x and that catch phrase is definitely popular with the single women I know. The ones who dont subscribe to that tend to not be single for long though (so it skews the perspective) or else they are overweight (by quite a bit) but don't make a virtue out of being single for long time. To be fair I also know quite a few dudes over 40 who have similar attitude but don't make a big deal out of it. Quite a number of these women still look good/okay for their age/have been with many guys and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 04:43 AM
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I can if I want claim it for the same reason, too on the occasions when I went out clubbing the times I had bulked up from weight lifting. It didn't phase me in the slightest, though freaked me out a little getting grabbed as I walked by as I was just not used to it having grown up skinny. I didn't get it from older women, just young outgoing drunk women at clubs or bars on Friday night
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:01 AM
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those cougars are handsy!! Oh yeh, especially in packs and liquored up, and the 3rd aspect...you having young bouncer physique. You can legit claim to have been sexually assaulted on multiple occasions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:45 AM
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I know an Indian dude at my gym who gets hit on by white girls, and does not look caucasian . He's 5'10, great physique as he lifts regularly, 3 day growth, stylish/edgy haircut, tatts, cool friendly (no strong accent) personality, and good looking face. He says he can get away with being Arabic, Turkish, central asia stans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:11 AM
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middle right I used chuckle seeing those women on OLD. While its legit to not be into hookups it just that a number of them would have provocative pictures on their profile...talk about mixed messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:56 AM
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lol. I have a friend who does similar, except its more along the lines of badboy/tough/edgy guys and nice guys, with the latter getting treated crappy and then she slags off on them being less desirable weak boyfriends, while every badboy men all ended up cheating on her, but they gave her the tingles like no 'please dont break up with me' nice guy could.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:51 AM
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No shock on an ugly person finding an attractive person desirable, but is it only at that extreme. can you not find someone who is average looking & average personality also desirable. Its gets harder the lower down on the totem pole you go. You could still be attracted to someone that may not be good looking but because of their nature, personality and the fact that they are into you, though it might more be a case of fondness rather than lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 05:52 AM
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Very short refractory period - nice, wish it was like that for me. Nurturing + high power career + allowed you too sleep with others + great body - nice, what a combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 03:11 AM
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But if beauty was so subjective, wouldn’t couples seem very random Exactly But yet what we see is that they often look alike in terms of attractiveness Not necessarily because that is what they find the most attractive, but that is the best they can get as they compete with others. I certainly dont think its a case of settling though (more so for men than women imo) in many cases. I think many adjust their perception to match their reality, though modern western society with its emphasis on beau…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 01:25 AM
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Yeh I'd say your thought process is correct. Your best answer is to downplay it ' not as much as you think' or that 'you need chemistry before sleeping with someone' or ignore it and ask another question back tho the fuckbois i knew didn't, they ramped up the dirty talk. While lots of women are put off by fuckbois, if the guy is good looking & charming, lots of women don't want to think about how many women he's been with but they do want to snag what lots of other women want / validate that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 09:11 PM
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Yes I think those 2 scenarios will make a big difference. Recently divorced: many women would think if you had married your high school sweet heart and had only been with just her, as a little unconventional but certainly not 'eeeeww' like it would be for the dude that has been mostly single his life. Lots of older divorced women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:00 AM
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Those sorts of white lies are not going to get guys knickers in a twist if they were to find out the truth. In fact you could say they added spice to the guy's interest in you as long as you live up to the tale. The guys I've known that had the most issues over n count were the guys who hardly got any casual sex and the guys who got a stack of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 12:34 AM
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Well there are quite a few women who hate lying from their partner so will feel guilty if they do it, so instead do so my omission by shamming any talk on her past as immature or sign of insecurity or will give vague 'I've had my share of fun', 'enough to be good at it', type responses, or don't consider drunk sex/vacation sex/bad sex/ONS as counting and what counts is STR/LTR partners only, and such women will legitimately say they have not lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 12:25 AM
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It wasn't undertaken though to prove a hypothesis unless that was that 'most people lie'. Something like this is not really going to get funded and show up in peer review journals, for people to be happy to give it any validity. The results imo aren't that shocking in outcome and seem reasonable, though I don't know if you can say that sex toy coy customers are representative of the general population. There is just no way to prove or disprove the outcome even with polygraph tests necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 11:31 PM
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Weird. So much rarer than the male version I would imagine. Out of curiousity what aspects about her personality, up-bringing or health/libido made her like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 10:58 PM
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Yeh those are weird indicators imo as someone else said its very widespread. For a single woman late 20s up who is social media/selfie obsessed that aspect might be more relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 10:36 PM
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Those 2 professions and the bar wench/servers as the guy above said definitely have a rep with people I know. Women who have changed jobs a lot, as well. Sales reps, both M+F and same with bar staff. Generalizations of course
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 10:29 PM
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People are going to have their own definition of high and its going to vary by quite a bit. I get the impression on PPD that definition is going to be on the lower side than the general population. It also depends what country you live in and even what city and what age. Your number I would not consider high these days especially for a women that was single for a while, but it is highish and when I was young it would have been seen as on the high side but not into WTF territory. I consider high/…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:16 AM
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Nurses make really good $ (6 figures) where I live as well. It might have been an average paying career back in my mum's youth but its a decent career these days with unionised pay/good penalty rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:30 PM
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Are these the single guys whinging how hard it is to meet friendly women though or are these guys who are already in LTRs who have slacked off. I see a mix of the this type of guy ^ across single & those relationships but typically those who are single are more conscious of their appearance though many are not stylish on the clothes front
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:03 AM
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I do think this is an aspect as well. Comparing the 'settled in take you for granted phase' with what would be the equivalent of the honeymoon phase when it comes to a fling. Likewise often mistresses will get treated better than the wife, but I think in the OPs case the emphasis is more on the sex, and not so much the frequency but how its no obligations and/or raunchier and or driving across town for a booty call type scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:48 AM
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Did you weasel your way into their pants or were they drunk or were they going through depression/crises? Generally when it comes to a hookup the girl is up for action and there is physical desire on her part. If you viewed it no more than nsa encounter with expectations of no more it shouldn't end up with you (and ideally the girl too) feeling shitty. Was it more a case of you knew them and then they regretted it and avoided you afterwards. I've had that (when skinny) but then also had some of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:41 AM
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Typically leading on from what the OP said, yeh its about how freaky she's prepared to get for him but can also extend to other elements, like how sexy she would dress, lingerie or not, how enthusiastic and eager to please in bed, how much she initiates or alternatively how submissive she is and PDA do count too. I experienced different level of raunchy/kink when I looked my best so I'm aware of it. I've know women that have admitted it - to experiment in their yolo days, did it to please jerk b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:13 AM
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Its not a gendered thing. Its the nature of people to treat the more desirable or more attractive people better...as a generalization. This is reflected more as regards people that you are not in a relationship with but I still feel it can happen also to those who you are in a relationship with that you don't have a deep connection with, but are still with them for various reasons of convenience. I have friends both M & F that I reckon have treated their more attractive partners better though I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 11:52 PM
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It very much depends on who cares the least and how much the limited relationship suits their current agenda/lifestyle. Also I feel the distinction between fuckbuddy and FWB, where with the latter there is a friendship connection and the relationship just doesn't revolve around meet for sex then leave straight after. Often either party can get feelings for the other or else maybe one doesn't have much going on in their life or any other options. Typically more often than not the FB scenario is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 11:35 PM
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Not exactly anecdotal, if its a 'policy' at hospice 'training programs', as that would have come from lots of observations by the medical staff over the years. I have not seen this in the couples I have known, so it was a bit of a surprise to read of this study. From memory too I thought it was stacked with breast cancer/mastectomy survivors where such a illness would have a big impact on his attraction to her...not that that should excuse a husband leaving a wife after vowing 'in sickness and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 03:02 AM
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These guys I'm thinking of I guess could be called naturals. They just learnt about women's nature as they dated & slept with more of them over time, plus another aspect was they could experiment with behavoir to test women out (ie playing games) and they tended to have a AWALT attitude too. A few were a bit cynical of women, though not all guys I knew who were a hit with women were like that, but much more so the cocky ones. Some I knew are genuine charming guys and not at all misogynistic. My …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 01:41 AM
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I agree on tying spectrum and awkward/not very sociable/shy/anxious together in the same basket. A lolt of RPs are former married guys and former less assertive nice guys and former nerds. Its too simplistic to try assign 1 physiological profile to everyone who relates to RP or that the ones on reddit represent the entire movement. Also I viewed RP as more macro than micro when it comes to viewing F-M dynamics and the dating market. PUA is more at the micro level were you say follow a behavior s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 12:15 AM
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Envy and admiration are the words I would use not praise. If the guy was a bit of a douche about it, say holding his hands up for high5s or bragging about it then there was less admiration. Over whelmingly though the guys I knew with high n counts didn't brag about it. It was generally brought up in low key conversations over drinks and not really at say dinner parties though there it might get discussed, the guys were a bit coy/vague about their exploits in front of other women. They would tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 09:56 PM
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A lot of women just don’t abide by Sister Code and even more tell themselves that whatever negative the man says about her is true. I do find this a bit strange too given we are living in 3rd wave feminism era. Ive known a number of women who were fine admitting having flings with married men (or guys in LTRs) and most were fine with it, but some were quite bitter he didnt leave her and its then that they view everything he said was bad about his marriage was a lie. I've even seen articles in wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 09:37 AM
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On libfem friendly blogs/forums/media sites/magazines you definitely will see casual sex positive stories of encounters by women if they think they are in a like minded crowd/all female/non judgemental setting. Are such outgoing & upfront, no shame women a minority though. I suspect it influences other women though. In the sex conservative era and in msm/open social media you will be much less likely to see it, but doesn't mean it not happening low key, just as a few female poster on here have p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 05:44 AM
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Correct move IRL, but on an anonymous survey would you have told the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 05:37 AM
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So many people have victim stories of being cheated on, yet I much less hear of cheating confession/regret stories of people's past. Not too many will be upfront on that, and more so women than men who have cheated. One thing I have noticed being gen-x is the shift over women's attitude on cheating in terms of being the other woman. There is a lot less stigma on dating a married man than in past generations. My parents gen considered such a women as a 'home wrecker' and they were viewed with sco…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 05:26 AM
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True. With the internet and social media you get a lot more stories about how crazy it is with a site like Tinder or Ashley Madison, but what are the real stats for actual hookups. With the guys I know its feast or famine. A lot of hookups with myself and friends happened at house parties, or live music venues, or even a few raves. I'm not sure how many of those same opportunities are happening now for young people (less live music, living at home longer, focused on career more, maybe higher exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 05:18 AM
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"asked about their partner preferences" on high count partner... On this aspect the rates listed for the men doesn't surprise me at all. For women imo it overstates reality. In a survey of course many women will say no to a high count guy as they'll be worried that'll he will have a roving eye & hands when the question is focused on just this element for choice. IRL however that concern gets pushed to the back of their priority list, if the man has all the other 'great catch' attributes on their…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 04:47 AM
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both are self centered users, though both could act so it wasn't obvious to their partner. Better to be duped over sex than fleeced of your hard earned money as that will be harder to recover back to same level unless your filthy rich. Not in all cases though will the other party have a bad taste in their mouth afterwards. Plenty of women are down for NSA sex with better catch guys and have no problems being a play thing for them. Likewise many wealthy guys dont mind splashing out the $ treating…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 04:06 AM
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For the sex. 😅 if the guy had other options that night she would get passed over otherwise. Even if she is lousey lay but pretty those girls will still get guys easy but reality is most guys won't know her weak sex game beforehand unless they move in her social circles and word gets around from other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 09:31 PM
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Women in their 30s are always in a big hurry to get married and become mothers. Laughably they expect that to happen in a matter of months. This is a huge turn-off for a lot of guys. In this era its probably now more so around the mid 30s to late 30s mark where its a major priority for some childless women who now want a family on a 'very soon' timeline. Some guys who are a bit desperate to settle down with a women who doesn't have middle age weight gain plus they too want kids or a token 1 chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:21 AM
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I think that's why many do the 3rd date for sex protocol. Many guys if they are into the woman and don't get much in the way of hookups will feel great that she wanted to rip his clothes off the same day they meet. some of them though will wonder how many guys she has done this with before though and get hung up on that. The chad guys wont feel anymore special or necessarily be intrigued by her as its no treat for them to get a ONS and it will depend on what phase he is in his life as to how he …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:43 AM
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Some people will see the move as an adventure or a bit of sea-change or a place to re-invent themselves, and/or intended to do it for just a few years. A couple did it for career, another did it at times as a high level athlete. I've moved to a different city for my job not to live out a different lifestyle beyond exploring the outdoors more. That movie is one of my favorites, but living a double life like that was so extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:38 AM
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The older you get and don't hang around with the party crowd that you used to in your 20s the easier it is to pull this off, as well as for a few women I've found who lived in different cities as well who did the slut there/regular girl next door flip for a while. OLD also makes it real easy to live a secret life as well these days as the women doesn't have to go out and hang around in a club/bar/music venue to find someone she fancies for a shag and be seen by others or have others in her socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:55 AM
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I don't think it happens all that often simultaneously either and it more revolves around phases over time, still I did see women on dating sites dressing provocatively/skimpy but saying they dont do casual sex, but bet they were going for both. Typically its YOLO then 'I've had my fun, now looking for something serious' periods. I also get why there is different strategy for when its something serious, and I wouldn't call the different ways she treats guys disrespectful, but I do think it can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:28 AM
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I wouldnt have thought they would be out of whack too much though. I see more guys that downplay their looks (facial) than their machismo and I dont come across too many that over state how hunky, rugged and blokey they are when they are clearly not, but who knows when it comes to a survey and ultimately its the opposite sex that dictates what turns them on. for women in their 20s there are other elements that are important in attraction, but as women get older masculinity/dominance rocks more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:38 AM
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I think there are lots who go into the profession & dentistry simply for the Dr status and lets be real the $ too, but not because they have a passion for medicine or biology or helping people or curing diseases. They are good at studying and get good grades and there is theme out there especially with status seeking parents that you make the most of it and become a doctor. I'm not saying every student with great grades goes to medical school but you really don't want to end up with a doctor/den…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:21 AM
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This is I see often. I don't know how many here are in that category but still for a lot of relationship I see that start from the mid 30s on, the women if they are keen for children typically don't go back to full time work. For a lot of guys this might be fine, but some will resent being the provider not too long into the relationship. A lot too even without kids will downshift to part time work. It depends if they have a good paying career that is not stressful and they enjoy it then they wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 09:40 AM
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To an extent in this place, yeh. It was a fairly communal place. I also had gfs who had single mother friends as well and worked with a number at different sites. Most of the women I found out about their past from chatting to them or the others there who told me more about them. They typically arrived there as single moms. The way they described the guys you could tell the relationships were on/off type or they were seeing the guy just a short time or the guy was in a relationship with someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 02:41 PM
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anything away from these types of posts. not necessarily, though plenty here have a one eyed bias for sure, and what they say will sometimes be rehashed from RP video clips theyve seen or what they have seen among people they know. Those apartments were I lived for a while that had quite a few single mothers coming and going was in a cheap neighborhood and the single moms there were not career/educated women and were a bit on the rough side, some were nice some had attitude and typically went fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 01:04 PM
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My comments as mentioned in my post was based on the people Ive known, and is not meant to represent a law of nature by any means. Given the nature of the topic...single mothers + poor choices & men divorced raped + poor choices, you are going to have a real hard time finding anyone on here being able to come up with research studies that are going to be conducted on such a topic and also very subjective deciding on whether the bad partner was a poor choice at the outset of the relationship back…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 12:03 PM
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That's possible if that is genuinely the case and could well be. He should put in his share if they both work regardless if she was $50k or $200k earner. If they both work 50 hrs a week, then I don't know if there necessarily needs to be adjustment factor that the lower earner needs to do more at home though I suspect some will think it that way. I do know some who earn a lot more than their partner tend to put a higher value on themselves and have a lower tolerance for any issues with their par…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 08:57 AM
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(comment from male) I called them stepping stone girl-friends/boy-friends, and it can happen to either sex, but I think it bugs women more, especially if they had a guy that was a 'un-polished gem' and got him trained to be a great boyfriend type for him to leave. Another scenario is when the guy she would like to marry and and his been with for a few years says he is not the marrying type or says he has no interest in having a family, but a year later or less is engaged to his next girlfriend. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 07:57 AM
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I think if you're going to go after a woman who you knew was becoming a dentist then you should be thinking long and hard about how you can get on her level or close to it That is going to be real hard for a lot of professions. One of the benefits of being say a dentist, pharmacist, lecturer or doctor is that you will be on good pay and you don't have to fight your way up the corporate ladder once qualified. You put the hard work in at study whereas for many professions you still have to after y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 03:46 AM
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with so many of the single moms I've known over the years, they did make poor choices. The guys were style over substance types or often just fuck buddy/short term guys that likely really did not have any intention to spend their life with the woman raising a family but then.. pregnancy. A lot of boomer parents started out that way but stuck it out till the kids left home. The difference in the situations you have contrasted in your OP is that for me seeing their exes, former fuck buddy, the guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 03:19 AM
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and agrees to work like a dog and pay most of the bills.. I think your assessment of him in terms of his career is harsh. Presumably he went to uni and studies and got a degree in HR and now works in that capacity. HR does not pay like it once did and a matching $200k HR role is definitely not easy to get. She studies hard in high school and was scholastically gifted and made it to medical school, but can now cruise on a great weekly income, unlike her boyfriend who after uni, has to keep compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 01:36 AM
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I'm surprised by those outcomes. As regards the term "initiate" violent outcomes no I could well believe a lot of women start fights/arguments, but less so that they initiate physical violence aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 11:20 PM
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My observations have been mixed. On average the woman is more attractive but the bottom 20% of men would happily settle for gay. When it comes to young horny hetro guys I firmly believe there is a bias in how they judge others, and see young women inherently more attractive and consequently more desirable which is absolutely what nature intends. A bi guy or girl would be a better judge imo. I don't think it in natures/our species best interests for one sex to be a lot more desirable than the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 07:54 AM
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Not entirely true, and it depends too if you are talking about a LTR or something more casual. If there is less focus on longterm there is more focus on looks. At least 2 of my female friends slept with guys for the big dick experience and in one of the social groups I hung out in a while back the guy who had a well known rep for being well hung slept with quite a few of the women that hung around that group (he was not bad looking but was not outgoing and didn't seek it out). As for muscles, ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:54 AM
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For a lot of relationships it starts with lust, then it becomes love then it becomes devotion. I guess for two lower libido couples it doesn't necessarily have to start like that. Even in relationships that don't start off with intense lust, sex will still be the glue that holds the relationship together (assuming they are not an older couple), and helps to creates harmony, contentedness and lack of resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:48 AM
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Mostly stuff while I was drunk. I think a lot of women could/would say that. Definitely the case when such topic has come up with female friends and exes. I'm sure there are quite a few guys on here who wished they were women's drunken regrets more as a substitute for being an awesome memory even ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 04:27 AM
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The experience & remarks from my F & M friends mirror those of the OP. The last convo on the subject was with a friend of a friend woman I knew who I thought was very attractive, and she was complaining about getting compliments. She was tired of getting them (tho in another conversation said she didnt think she was that pretty) and assumed every guy had an ulterior motive (just wanting to fuck her not even be interested in a relationship) and described the guys who typically give them as losers…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 03:25 AM
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The average tall guy is thin, lanky and weak. a lot of women who work in corporate world don't care if the guy is going to be a great fighter, just that he has potential to be a better earner + will fill out as he gets older. I noticed it was more the blue collar women who cared more about a guy being tougher or being able to protect them or rescue them in a crises.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:57 AM
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IDK, a lot of guys are harsh judges on themselves or think women are way more attractive (objectively and not just the testosterone effect on them), plus some do the self effacing thing, plus also I have a few friends who are good looking guys who did really well with women who like to downplay their looks and attribute their success to charm & talent. I don't know if that's called humble bragging Myself when I packed on the weight/muscle did much better and I still had the same genetics but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:40 AM
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referred to her by his last name This was his biggest dumb move, still to me its just a minor fact compared to all the other non married facts. The fact that she refused to marry him should out weigh this aspect of their relationship. He's got to be fuming, though can celebrate somewhat that the lifetime of $50,000/mth was reduced
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:25 AM
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Its a terrible outcome as this women for the most part lead her own life and had her own kids and didn't contribute to his household or his career success. American guys think they have it the worst, but in commonwealth and maybe the scandinavian countries you don't have to be married, just a defacto relationship lasting more then 2 yrs starts to get you into risky territory (if you have a lot of $ and she doesn't). This guy wanted a pre-nup for marriage but as we see he needed a pre-nup just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 12:48 AM
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If your target survey audience is women in their 20s chances are you wont get this outcome, or maybe the outcome is 55% prefer, 45% don't so you get the headline 'most women prefer'. If its mainly women in their 30s then you have a better chance of getting that survey outcome. The reasons.. many of the women have mom bods and are on the curvy/chunky side themselves. Those that aren't are getting tired of staying in shape and when they settle down don't want the pressure to stay in shape or exerc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 12:36 AM
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Those men living in the feminist friendly Commonwealth countries need to read the background on this case and get clued up. Having your own separate house and bank account and not living together and giving her lots of gifts and financial help during the course of the relationship did not save this man from alimony payments, which were set by the original female judge for lifetime and only reduced to 6yrs on appeal. The guy proposed to her but wanted a financial agreement to protect his assets f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 12:19 AM
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As they have moved away more from the traditional wife/mother role, it has not been at the urging of men or in response to criticisms from men or to please men or be more desirable to marry, but to suit their lifestyle (and for those that work things could not stay what they were). Lots of young people who are critical of young married men, need to talk to their grand mothers or great g mothers to see what married life was like once.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 11:03 PM
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Guys these days make much better husbands/long term partners compared to the stoic man of house husband of the 50s. They are more supportive, more communicative, contribute more to the house chores (more than just mowing & mending the fence), contribute more to raising children, prepared to share decision making...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:40 AM
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this is an aspect that urked me with a few women I dated. A fake persona that they were awesome & living an awesome life, when in fact they were living a humdrum life in suburbia and had issues & complications. I don't have a problem with that, it just annoyed me over sell aspect and for a couple the distinct impression I got that they would not have much tolerance to date a guy in their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:22 AM
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It's like they try to compensate their boring personalities and insecurity. For quite a few I'm sure it is that case. I think its a wanker approach when that is their big selling point, especially when they brag and try hard to one up the others guys in the group, but it does work for many women. Its a bit of a joke when they lead with that then complain that women are so pre-occupied with their status/$ but then from late 20s on it is a great lure for meeting women. A confident, nice man wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:11 AM
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Yep. If he repeated that experiment after the yolo years of the 20s it would be very different, and to a degree I don't blame them to an extent if they heard 'just waiting for the right time to go back to school' from some guy in his 30s. I'm gen x and so many of the cute girls I knew when young were or had slept with a musician you think it was the most popular profession. I had a few friends who did similar test in their early 30s (lying about their job to see the different reactions) when we …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:00 AM
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I'd be a bit suspicious of that as well unless we are talking about some super busy time poor business woman or executive, and then that in itself is not going to be a great thing for a relationship for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:01 AM
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That was what immediately came to mind for me. Ive spent time as both skinny and buffed up, and this selective personality aspect that the OP talks about really hit home as I experienced both sides of it at different times. Even when I was skinny I was still well aware of it when I talked to a girl then she talked to one of my good looking buddies or another guy nearby at the club/parties and she would then go into girly cutsey mode and laugh a lot at any lame joke the guy said. It was pretty ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:04 AM
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Probably will...if you don't need a ccard to sign up but lots of teenage guys are cheapskates and its a poor substitute for the real thing. A hooker would be better imo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 01:32 AM
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I tend to agree with from such women i know IRL. It also depends a bit on how old they are. The older the more they (people) will self reflect but in their 30s many will blame bad luck, or external factors or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:03 PM
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Yes it is. Sometimes you will get the odd academic study thst supports RP philosophy, but the outcomes are couched in more msm friendly outcomes and only hints at uncomfortable truths, but more often thev academics will avoid any fallout from other female staff or risk for future grants or getting called up by admin or a committee for unsubstantiated misogynist bias on their interpretations
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:49 PM
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Do you think there is this huge un-met demand for web-cam girls currently that is going to waste? If another 10million women go online to strip and dildo are there also going to be a rush of 50million men to their monitors/phone screens to pay to watch these women (it wont be 1 for 1 if these women are going to make lots of moola). There is a lot of horny guys online already who are getting their needs met with free porn, or if they want someone more interactive, webcam/chat rooms which have bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:19 AM
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I tended to find the same as well (generalizing). The ones who tended to be the most aloof or had attitude were the average to pretty (but not hot), slim/thin build women. I have heard a number of other guys make similar observational experience over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 08:25 AM
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Both single moms and dads are just aa guilty of this from what I've observed, and the guys can get away with it more if they only have limited custody. The better looking the mom/dad the more easily they can rope in child free partners as others will make allowances due to their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:47 PM
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'no male model' - with women i know and discussion of jerk guys this will often get used for the guys they have dated or hooked up with and it's always a half truth. Yes the guy is not classic good looking guy in the face, but still has a good body or is tall. Also good body doesn't mean he can appear in men's fitness magazine either but just be a solid build broad shouldered man. Also the guys tend to have higher T levels which is reflected in their more masculine features + behaviour and from …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:15 PM
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These 2 scenarios came to mind as well as 2 more: * the guy she is seeing is having an affair: ie he is married or has another girlfriend. the guy wants to keep it on the down low and views the relationship more as an FWB and makes excuses not to meet her friends or want to be on FB, tho from the sounds of things ld say she could be the one doing this. they're embarresed about something to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:34 PM
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Yes very similar with the frustration tho l do think the FWB is better off in more cases unless the friend zone guy has hardly any friends and being her friend gets him invited out to her social events were he can parlay it to get meet other girls but that's not the norm. FWB can suit young career focused women or single moms often plus also assume she can call the shots often on when + wear and is more than a booty call.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:15 PM
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,they often conflate value with confidence or if there is any men interested in sleeping with them. I agree l think for the more attractive women it's not a case of any men but the more desirable men, so there is merit in that, but over the years lve encountered numerous women who think SMV and RMV are the same thing....that guys don't drop their standards for nsa sex. in society today I am coming across so many women that do relate confidence to HV. I don't know if it's a theme in lots of self …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:11 AM
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which is the way it is for a lot of FWB arrangements. Both sexes do it, but probably more so guys because if the nsa nookie, but often they say they aren't looking for anything serious (but if a good catch comes along they definitely will be) or that they are looking for something serious (but will sleep with a swag of ONSs in the meantime till that great chemistry person shows up). Truth but not totally truthful. While miss 35 will be pissed off itS the nature of FWB /flings snd women do the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:39 AM
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I have not met any navy seals, but l have noticed a number of BP guys when it comes to army or police members. I don't think simp is the right way to describe them as they generally act alpha around other men and for the most part it's probably not an act, however when it comes to women or more succinctly pretty women they can go into M'lady mode, act overly protective, agree with them when they really dont or let them get their way, can think pretty women can't don't bad thingS (white knight), …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:15 AM
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" I didn't care about him enough to not cheat. It's not his fault" I always find this sort of comment a but bewildering when it comes to say a ONS cheat. The vast majority of cheaters plan it so that their partner wont find out and thus be blissforly ignorant. They won't get hurt and assuming you don't pick up an std or change your behavior towards them ie love them less, then l don't see that you have hurt them and thus don't care for them. If it was an ongoing affair then l consider that diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 11:45 PM
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They typically dont end up with simps. The more assertive, jerk type guys pick up on the weak willed desperate to be loved girls and hone in on them. I do think quite a few of the petite girls might have daddy issues and the more dominate jerks are happy to have a more subserviante girlfriend and they feel comfortable with a more dominate guy. while it can happen I just dont typically see simp guys and girls matching up, as the simp girls dont like that dynamic of the guy being more eager to ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 12:40 PM
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It really depends more on if you are talking a long term relationship or something casual. Also this level of multi millionaire dude who is fine with having sugar babies or trophie girlfriend/wife is not the norm. They ate busy men and don't need an ambitious girlfriend to bring in $, they just want her to be sexy + loving and be thete when he needs her. His ego and needs are greater and he is fine to have a pretty girlfriend (one the trappings if his success) that he doesn't have to compete wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:31 AM
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A lot of the poorer people where l live (urban city) are overweight and it's not because they don't get enough but more that they tend to eat junk food or cheap processed foods. I realise its different depending where you live, but also a lot of the cheapest processed foods tend to be nutritionally lacking but higher in calories. The guys doing manual labour though are much less likely to be overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 01:24 AM
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From my observations say when it comes to single people late 20s up, is that being overweight effects a women's sex appeal more than a man's. For men it tends to be more evenly distributed than for women, so the guy can get the beefy look and will still do well. His masculinity doesn't take the hit that the woman's femininity does. If you get to rolly polly weight then it's a different story. The middle ages guys i know who have the dad bod, or look like chubby Vince Vaughn, still do well with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 12:43 AM
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Damn. I had the opposite treatment from cops compared to my sister & her friends,, especially since l had a bit of a hotted up car. This is definitely one of the perks of being a pretty female. I'm surprised you got treated so leniently by the female cops, but then the force does attract a lot of lesbians or maybe it's just part of the nicer treatment more attractive people get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 11:43 PM
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I think many think that there might be that small chance like its having another rod in the water, or playing the numbers game. I've been told by numerous women over the years about cops letting off on speeding (less easier now with unmanned cameras), but it was not like the cop then asked them for a date or obviously flirted with them, rather it seemed to be just getting a smile back and appreciation from a pretty girl was enough payoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 10:45 PM
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To me they are two different types of relationships, with the emphasis on the friend part on the FWB type but l know many use the two terms as equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:53 PM
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You got to be careful with that scenario as well not to go codomless as some women can take it to the next level with oops pregnancy. (not including the risks of stds) some guys even get caught out with, ' lm not interested in having any kids for years' remarks only to find.. they change their mind when pregnant. I've known quite a few single mothers who became so from being involved with guys where it was just casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:32 PM
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Not necessarily. It suits some where they just don't have the time or energy to commit to a full-time relationship and that also includes other casual relationships as well but unless specifically excluded in their arrangement it will typically mean that either one can take advantage of any ONS that they happen to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:15 PM
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Haha. The thing with a pretty curvy/chubby girl is how long is she going to stay on that threshold. I've dated a couple of women like that and the weight gain started to happen in less than a month. Its not like l expect a woman to never gain weight but want to enjoy those sexy svelte years first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 06:31 AM
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It would be a big boost to their sex appeal absolutely. They don't have spend an hour in the bathroom each day using expensive beauty products just do some exercising & eat healthy and with smaller portions. Easier than guy doing body building. Many do make an effort between boyfriends but as they get older I find quite a few of those that do, rate themselves a bit of a catch because of it. Sucks but it's true too. The parties lve been to in recent years it's so obvious how much more attention a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 06:24 AM
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For a lot of average Joe guys it really is that simple. They don't have top 10 porn star idealisation's + it's not like pornstars are genetic freaks or elite athletes. On the free porn site I visit the women in the weekly best of section are all other the place when it comes to looks. I'm surprised how some are so popular. The 'butter face' women lve known have no problem scoring guys for sex or boyfriends. Numerous guys i know who aren't bad looking and have had great girlfriends have the bench…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 10:51 PM
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That's a factor. If you want a slim build girlfriend many will think you only want the hot chicks. Likewise many guys these days will rate a slim/slender young lady with average looks + personality + lifestyle, as hottie / a babe / goddess, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:36 PM
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Blunt would have been the better word to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:16 PM
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Contempt is too harsh a word, unless they were nasty earlier on, but now try and dismiss it as they were just immature back then or pass it of as just joking, but have not experienced that 180 contrast. I will reject them for a relationship though...they will only be there while your life is going good. Some women will give a guy they see potential in a go, but quite a few wont if they have plenty of options..some are harsh - 'Not interested in a work in progress or project', but it really depen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 02:24 PM
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"This doesn't mean you always want sex though". - no every day but extending the timeframe to week, month year, then increasingly its going to be yes. sure you can live without it but most people prefer to have the fun, or even leaving out being horny, most single guys would prefer to have the companionship of a girlfriend or FWB, increasingly as the timeframe under consideration extends. "Its like as if men change or something." - not at that biological level by just pushing horniness and attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:24 AM
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Because of testosterone. Wanting sex is right up there on the hierarchy of needs. Not desiring sex goes against the genetic imperative of 100,1000 previous generations. I can assume a change in culture/society before I assume a big swath of young men in the prime of their life have lost interest in sex in a mere 25 yrs...and only do it at 30 to make a baby. Porn is a factor but that's still a desire substitute outlet. Even low T men still desire sex just dont have the assertiveness or resilience…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:46 AM
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I guess the best persons to ask are the hookers and even then a high class escort who worked NYC will have different experiences from say a hooker who worked the red light district in say Saskatoon. There is mining in my state and a lot of young guys who work the mines will spend on hookers. The ratio of M/F in the local doesn't help, but they dont hold back because of ego. Most clients from a hooker I knew were married men and from nerdy to successful. Even for a great looking guy if he is marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:45 AM
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Men increasingly dont want to marry till then I agree, but not to also make that the time when they have their first serious relationship either. I know the two dont necessarily have to be one in the same, but when the word 'sexlessness' gets used, to me it tends to indicate these young men are going with out girlfriends or hooking up on the regular as well for most of their 20s. Most guys don't want that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:24 AM
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Long term relationships...yes, but most men really don't want to wait till then. For the guys that are doing well with women they are fine pushing the settle down phase out to later in life and enjoy variety in the meantime, but for those who aren't like that, being the guy that only starts getting attention at 30 as 'dependable settle down with guy' is not ideal, though majority of the low sex guys will still go for it, but many would have preferred to have enjoyed her fun loving and sexier mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:17 AM
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Actually he said stop chasing above your league, which doesn't necessarily mean go for ugly guys, but I would have thought guys of the same level of looks, personality and lifestyle. Virgins women are not looked down on to the same degree as their male counterpart. Unfortunately low experience women are not going to be as savvy picking up on the genuine guys vs the charming players.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:01 AM
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Of my friends who have been with hookers, it goes across the board. Some guys here think of it from their young age perspective, and typically most young men with options dont think about paying for it, but quite a few guys late 20s up who don't have that social life anymore and are in a slump and just want bullshyte free guaranteed sex that day & time of their choosing with a beautiful younger woman who is a sexy long haired blonde, or is a redhead or is pretty latina, or is petite Asian girl o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:54 AM
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exactly, and even without those a young moderately attractive woman, will have no shortage of social encounters with guys interested in her (and initiating) if she has any actual social life and does not wok in an all female office.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:03 AM
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Depends on the guys they hook up and how much they had to drink at the time. Some of the guys I know are smooth operators, have a fun & outgoing attitude and charm women out of their panties. The women don't know what their true thoughts are and if the guys did have low respect for them they are not going to telegraph that to the object of their desire, and stymie their chances of getting nookie. As for post sex, some guys will be jerks and it becomes obvious to the woman they were a pump n dump…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:53 AM
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Last time I looked for curiosity I noticed that split (younger women and older women). I'd say porn + lower T levels in the younger men, the 30s women are busy having & raising children, and with the older women, maybe after being in a limited sex motherhood focused role for ages with more obligation than affection, its not as easy as she hopes for her man to fire up again and see her as sexy, especially if there is more than modest weight gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:46 AM
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I checked a few DB forums numerous years ago and I would have said it seemed like 2/3 men complaining and 1/3 women complaining. I don't know why it would have swung around in short time frame. Why is there is so much cuck and incest porn these days. I guess it is linked to lower testosterone levels in men but they have have been on a steady decline for a while. The rise of smartphone era will have brought more women online but thats been going strong for over a decade. Porn is another factor fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:13 AM
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you’re probably not going to be the guy getting casual sex Actually being skinny it became pretty obvious on the attraction differential with the thin/skinny girls I was attracted too, and I had to hit the gym + forcefeed...so I did score NSA action but it took a lot of ongoing effort and the contrast in how I got treated irked me and its why I can empathise with the struggling guys, other than that I agree with what you wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:08 AM
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When l grew up the 2 groups that didn't want to end up marrying the slutty women were the guys that slept with a stack of women and the guys that hardly got any casual sex. The better looking or edgy bad boy guys who enjoyed the charms of many a YOLO / woo-hoo party girl, loved them but for the most part only as long as it was nothing serious. They saw another side to women that made them choose conservative wives. The guys in the lower ranks do pick up on this. The 'hard luck Harry's'when it ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:44 AM
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I think women wear make up more for themselves so they feel happier viewing themselves as more attractive in the mirror to try outdo or try keep up with other women in being considered more attractive, and an element of that is to be viewed more favourably be men, even if they are not single, but the primary reason is not 'the way men want her to present'. As much as women say they do it for themselves a big underlying factor of what is considered attractive is dictated by mens desire, but a gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:37 AM
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they will hit the water in the toilet by the time you hit 50 if you dont get a lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:48 AM
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Agree but I still find there is a stigma about with a lot of people. I take public transport over driving to work. No peak hour stop start traffic + I get to read or do prep work on laptop on my way in + its more environmentally friendly + its helps to support the infrastructure that tax $ have been spent on. It takes me 15 longer as the compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:59 PM
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I do understand the diff between SMV and RMV. My issue is more with the term Looksmatch and how its applied, when it is applied to a M and F pairing who look nothing alike, but I do realise both could well be rated at the same SMV. I feel another term should be used like SMV equivalent which some on here do use. To me they are 2 different things, but I do realise not some here. If we were back in 'Happy Days' era with young people typically going steady then for sure most young single dudes woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:03 PM
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I don't disagree with what you wrote, but l do in terms of the meaning of looksmatch. To me a looksmatch is someone visually similar, their equivalent visually. Someone else said their genetic equivalent, and in the case of the short, fat, skinny guy that's going to be someone who is a lot like his sister/s. Now l was skinny and my sister too, both avg looks and she got tired of getting hit on by guys it happened so often and that was the opposite for me and girls. SMV + RMV difference due to ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:55 PM
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This is the thing that gets missed in this thread heading advice. Being happy and a fun guy is definitely a big help for guys in being seen as attractive....girls just wanna have fun but need the guy to lead. Is it enough to overcome his other weaknesses, who knows, is it enough to elevate him to be seen as desirable by the type of women he coverts, who knows, but it is definitely solid advice. Where it sticks in the craw of some guys though is that they see a lot of women, who aren't bubbly or …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:58 AM
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I think its just bizarre, and just don't understand it from the cuck perspective and really don't want to, but that's a long way from assuming a woman that had a lot of casual sex still has cum residue on her months later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:44 AM
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What you can attract is what you are worth. I agree totally the market decides and have nothing to get over, but as others have mentioned there is a definite difference between SMV and RMV and the guys not getting nookie are going to be hung up on that. I still don't consider looksmatch to be the equivalent however. A looksmatch to me is equivalent based looks (facial aesthetics + physical aesthetics). The looksmatch for a fatty is another fatty, a shortie another shortie, a skinny another skinn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:14 AM
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Scraps - it depends what they are referring to. There is a bmarked difference between looksmatch and relationships and what the struggling guys can get in a nightclub or on tinder. 'Dating'is more related to the former, but the anguish l see on here is more related to the later. They just want their share of the hookup pie. I would not a 200+lb woman the equivalent looksmatch of a short dude either. His equiv is going to be a 5' woman, it's just that there are distortions in the dating/hookup ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:05 PM
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Yes, I definitely think so looking at the dating expectations I saw online + the experiences and dates and expectations/requirements that women I know in their 30s had, 'especially' if their goal was nothing serious early on. Plus seen the experiments that others have done with OLD, Sheesh some guys will crawl across gravel to the trailor park to lick some pussy and they are not all fuglies either. Also I would not limit it to just low SMV but also Avg SMV. Same women could well do the same in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:30 AM
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yeh. Sure it goes on, but at what level 10%?? who knows but its going to be higher for sure when the business is pushed underground and scum bags and criminals get in on the business. How many Asian child slaves work out at the Mustang Ranch in Nevada. Sugar babies and escorts (who generally operate for the more cashed up clientele and who work independent through agencies) I bet mostly are stuffing their bank accounts or enjoying a lifestyle that a receptionist salary could not buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:59 AM
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The key word here is 'dating'. Dating does not mean the man has the goal of a committed long-term relationship. Definitely a mid 30s woman can date, have fun, have nsa sex with guys from 20 to 60, and I would say has more ability to get it than the average mid 30s dude. I would say in the 40s too going by some women I know online dating inboxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:36 AM
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I suspect you may be a bit biased but only because you are not evaluating these women in the same way a man would though you say you're a lesbian, so maybe not. lol Other women would be judging her on more making an effort to dress nice and have neat hair, nice makeup. good deportment, whereas as the guy would be evaluating her still on her sex appeal and how feminine she is still, how much does she dress stylish and show off her figure. Some women look fantastic still and people are going to no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:25 AM
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People from the average + beautiful demographic segments will say they can try to find happiness amongst their own demographic. While they might find a partner with a really cool personality + a lovely caring nature, the physical attraction element is going to take a back seat. As for fun + hookups where physical desire rules, they are going to tend to miss out unfortunately. The men more so, however those who are very masculine, rugged or thuggy will still get some nsa action based on that prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 11:43 PM
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I suspect it might not show outcomes that are popular with the msm and the dating market that will paint a lopsided picture. Look at what come out when that cheating siite Ashley Madison got hacked...huge imbalance ratio of men to women (real ones not dud/fake accounts), but no way AM was going to release any sort of genuine stats, beyond the basics for titillating the media like which country has the most sign ups for cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:37 AM
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I know quite a number who are like this in their 30s up who got burned by women in past LTRs and or seen others having to sell their house from a relationship that only lasted a few years and are now wary and wont move in with a woman especially if she is not similarly cashed up or on good income and or they were not a hit with women in their 20s but now are, and they have lost girlfriends this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:24 AM
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I thought it was like 3-4% from EU study. Do you have a link that's much higher levels?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:25 AM
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In my observations over the years this is an absolute factor though it won't be mentioned in the media in such blunt terms rather it will be put under economic factors. It's interesting to see the drop off marriage start at time on neo liberalism and the Reagan era. The fact that poorer people get married less is not such a bad thing and unfortunate for them if they really wanted to. Money woes are a huge factor in relationship splits and lots of guys realise it. Still lots of poor women having …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:18 AM
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