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Discussiongnomeweb/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:19 PM
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I don't know, I don't really like the idea of relying on that people will pull themselves up by their bootstraps. I believe it doesn't happen nearly as often as we all would like to, usually people just give up. And it's not good on the larger scale. We need some sort of support system for them. I am not sure which though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:43 AM
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I think it's a mix of everything. We live in what someone has beautifully called an achievement society. There is a promise of everything, you can achieve anything: a six-pack, a yacht, a mansion, a beautiful young girl. In fact, if you don't achieve these things (and almost no one does statistically speaking), you are kinda loser. There is a promise of sex and fun and parties; women have sexual freedoms like they have never had. And it's all constantly shaved into your face by suicidal media (s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:03 AM
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How often do you see discussions of how incel and manosphere movements affect men? That incels are largely suicidal depressed people? Why they have these issues? This is, by the way, is why andrew tate and other homunculus are popular: they are recognizing these peoples issues and talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:18 AM
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I don't know, women problem are talked about by every mainstream media. Men problem, on the other hand, are discussed not as often. Even when male problems are discussed, they are only ever discussed from the point of view of how they affect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:03 AM
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It is sad how actively the modern society kills the very concept of inherent value of human beings. If you don't have a lambo by 20 y.o. you are practically a loser. We are so fed by stories of success, pictures of beauty, etc. that it doesn't even cross our minds that we have inherent value without bringing anything to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:32 PM
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My point wasn't that these are similar but rather that divorce rates depend on a very large variety of factors and are not representative of happiness in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:38 AM
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Yes, and continuing this logic, afghani men are best husbands ever since taliban became the government: women there don't apply for divorces anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:53 PM
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Similar problems with the fat acceptance movement. For them, it’s not that they want women to not be objectified by how much they weigh I am pretty sure that the overwhelming majority of them just want to get stopped being shamed by people for being overweight as well as stop feeling bad about themselves. Meanwhile, the “good men” who are overlooked for the hot douchbag fuckboys are also selfish pricks that objectify women. It’s just they can’t successfully pull it off. They just pretend to be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:48 PM
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I mean, I usually try to offer help to all my friends with everything, independent on their gender. I have no issue repairing things or carrying something heavy for my female friends when needed. But I do that because they don't require anything from me (in fact, it would require me fighting to get them to accept help). If our friendship is conditional on me doing something then we are not friends. In general, that woman seems to be expecting "princess treatment" from her friends. I mean, whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:40 PM
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The law is equal for men and women, and that's the rule #2 of OOP. If we start going into how laws are implemented, we have to go into topics like gender salary gap, all the violence against women which is rarely and weakly punished (at least here), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:14 PM
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Rule #2: I am talking about laws or regulations, not societal attitudes or outcome disparities
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:31 PM
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To be fair, I am not saying that there is no discrimination against men, it's just that when someone comes and writes "there are a lot of laws that discriminate against men but none that discriminate against women" without giving a single example, it's a bad faith debate starter. I am not even sure it's a debate I want to participate in, I live in Sweden where there are (to the best of my knowledge) no laws that discriminate against men (including shared paternity leave). Good for OOP to update …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:39 PM
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I think first you gotta do the minimum background work and give the list of laws that discriminate against men and what countries you are talking about in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:47 PM
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I loved a girl a lot in my teens and dated with her on and off over several years. I was happy to date her and I remember it warmly. However, people in teens have emotional instability, so everything is felt 10 times stronger, so there was drama and doing utterly idiotic things. But that is experience, so I learned from what I did wrong and just will not do the same things again. I mean, dating in teens is very different, it's the period when both are experimenting and trying to figure out thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:50 PM
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Looks like pointing out that women have jobs and salaries to me, just like /u/MoonriseOverEarth has written above.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:13 PM
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No no, you got confused. "Ramming a male penis adjacent object, up your ass is not heterosexual activities"; strapon is a "male penis adjacent object" so they are not heterosexual. However, if a man puts a dildo up his girlfriends ass, that shit is gay af according to OP's definition. Edit: now that I think about it, if two lesbians are using strapon, it's gay only if they have anal sex. If they have vaginal sex with strapon, it should be straight in line with OP's line of logic, because strapon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:34 AM
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Good for you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, very well done! (The second part is not sarcasm, I am honestly happy for everyone who finds ways to manage their ADHD/autism) Unfortunately, ADHD and autism take many different forms and have different degrees of severity, so pulling themselves by their bootstraps is not always possible for many other people with autism and or ADHD. I don't understand why you find it funny to put people down who haven't managed to overcome their disabilities t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:01 AM
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Well, you are wrong then. What a weird hill to die on
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:17 PM
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That can, in fact, be a heterosexual activity. Anal sex is neither a requirement nor a qualifier for being gay. You can be gay and never have anything up your ass. You can be heterosexual and put anything you want into your ass. Requirement for being gay is sexual attraction to men. If you are a man attracted to men then you are gay. Otherwise you aren't. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:56 PM
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Not at all. The number of people with forms of social anxiety as well as shy people is much, MUCH higher than the number of people on the autistic spectrum. Autism is a serious diagnosis based on multiple criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:32 PM
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What? I have never heard IRL anyone to bully or make fun of virgin men. In fact, I have never heard anyone knowing or thinking about virginity statuses of other people (past ~18 yo). How does that topic even come up? Best case scenario is your very close friends who were with you from childhood may know about that, but even then at some point they will be just concerned about you and try to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 11:43 AM
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In close circle - no. Why would I be with abusive people. My very close friend used to be kind of a womanizer, but I wouldn't call that abuse. He was pretty open with girls about everything and didn't force them to do anything, it was purely their decisions. Red flag: the guy openly saying to you about having no intention of having long-term relationships with you while you do want to have them. In family - my uncle is emotionally abusive according to me. Nothing hardcore, just a shitbag. Was ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:53 AM
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Who is pressuring women to do an abortion Financial impossibility of being a single mother for so many of them. The option is for women to decide if they want to support a child financially and have it, or if they don't and they can abort What happens if they decide to give a birth but they don't have money to support the child? sometimes accidental pregnancy happens, Correct it sucks, Correct but the involved parties just have to have the child Incorrect. There is an option of abortion if a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:28 AM
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Having a kid is a lot more serious then breaking the bed though I can give you plenty of examples how you can accidentally find yourself with a great debt without you ever wanting it. I mean, if you live in the US, you don't even have to look for examples much, if you get sick you have all chances to get financially fucked. In case with children it is at least directly your responsibility of not using contraception. Which also means finically, because yes its not raising the kid but it is taking…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:18 AM
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Women can choose There is only one choice here: whether to give birth or do an abortion. That choice should be separate from anything else because it is sometimes insanely complex even before taking practicalities into account. In any sane country, there shouldn't be pressure either way. What you are suggesting is putting a pressure on women to do an abortion. If she unilaterally chooses to have a child You are acting like humans are biorobots who all can just causally decide to not give birth b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:06 AM
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"Parenting or child rearing promotes and supports the physical, cognitive, social, emotional, and educational development from infancy to adulthood. Parenting refers to the intricacies of raising a child and not exclusively for a biological relationship" - Wikipedia In most Western countries there is no requirement for you to raise the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:46 PM
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I didn't write that I feel like women should be able to forego this. If they choose to give birth but not raise the kid they should absolutely have to pay financial support, just like men. Because someone has to pay for children. It's either raising taxes or forcing people who are directly connected to the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:40 PM
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It isn't the question of a decision, it's the question of consequences. If when having sex you break your bed, you need to buy a new bed. It isn't question of a decision, it's a consequence of your action for which you need to pay, whether that consequence was desired or not. Decision which you can make is whether you want to be a parent, i.e., the person who parents the kid. Paying money for the kid has very little connection to being a parent. It takes money to raise children, so there are two…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:31 PM
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I think the point doggiedoc2004 is trying to convey is that you don't have to ever see the child or talk to them, so you aren't required to do any parenting. However you are expected to provide financial support to cover for the results of your decisions. Which sounds kinda just to me. I personally think the solution is much easier, we just need to finally invent efficient reversible oral male contraceptives and that would solve most issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:16 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:15 PM
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Depends on the reason for it. "I want" or "I don't want"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:38 PM
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Are u an Indian cause this isnt true for 90% of marriages here . What isn't true? According to statistics I can find, more than 90% of marriages in India are arranged marriages. Again wiki isn't real life I gave you a literal definition of the word "arranged marriage". Most arranged marriages have a courting period where you talk with your soon to be spouse and go on dates and stuff Wow, how nice, you can talk to your "soon to be spouse" and go on dates. And what would parents say if you break u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:25 PM
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"rather than take accountability" I believe that wherever you live there must likely supposed to be a law holding people accountable for violence against women. "An oppressor group claiming that they are the real ones being oppressed for people daring to point out the violence they are enacting. " What criteria do you use to determine who are oppressors and who are oppressed? Amount of violence against them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:18 PM
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Arranged marriages are, by the very definition, not based on love. There can be love in arranged marriages, but it is not the determining factor for arranged marriages. And arranged marriages are absolutely forced on people, there is a very strong pressure to accept them. It's just that technically you have the option of saying "no" without being physically forced into compliance. Wiki: An arranged marriage is a marriage where the spouses are selected by a third party. It differs from a love mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:42 PM
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what about what she said do you find unbelievable? I am not judging what she said, I haven't listened to her, just quickly googled the name of the guy after you mentioned and read what is it about. I am skeptical about all talking heads telling their life experiences. I am not saying there is no point in listening to them: there absolutely is, it may help many people to discover that they themselves or their friends are actually in the same situation. Especially when it concerns stories of domes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:29 PM
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I think you are answering to a wrong comment. But anyway, I am about to tell you a big secret, but don't tell it to anyone: people lie in podcasts/shows/youtube/etc. Negative publicity is still publicity, often even more so. Just look at people like jack doherty or the logan or whatever his name paul: they made insane amounts of money on people hating them. I have never heard about the Akaash fella before, but now I suddenly know about his existence. I am not saying whether what Akaash's wife sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:18 PM
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How are people complaining about costs if they aren’t even grinding Because people aren't supposed to be grinding? Why do you think people are supposed to be grinding to get basic things? You grind if you are chasing the "american dream", but otherwise people aren't supposed to burn themselves to death at work if they are content with not getting yachts or whatever. Productivity of manufacturing grows with time, aren't we supposed to start working less to get the same as we did in the past? (Hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:58 PM
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very few marriages (outside some fucked up areas) are forced or a transaction (by brother married last week and the bride loved him a lot maybe more than he loved her based on his actions). Judging by you mentioning Indian stories, you are from India. If yes, then I am calling what you are writing an utter bs. Arranged marriages are absolutely most definitely a big part of Indian culture. Every statistic you can find confirms that. Even I personally know indians in the US who did arranged marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:31 PM
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That simply isn't true, you have just read a bit too much linkedin. The number of people who have grinded their asses off has always been very low. For every grinding guy there are hundreds of men working on factories standard hours. Generally people just go with the flow on the path of the least resistance. The number of people who go through education that requires grinding is an insanely small percentage of people; and even then it often leads to them burning out and just doing the absolute m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:43 AM
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I feel like online dating is dead for most people. Women receive so much attention, they simply can't keep up. Like, imagine if you had like 20 people trying to write to you at the same time. You can't realistically invest emotionally into each of these chats, neither women nor men can. And then attention you are getting is usually coming down to men being horny. Women just give up on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:47 AM
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This is a complete opposite of what conservatives were teaching women for generations: find a provider, the man who will be kind and fair to you, and will provide you with everything. Even worse, if you look long enough into the past, women were practically sold to whomever looked like the best provider (this still happens today outside of the civilized West). Love has been an insignificant factor in this equation. Only now, after millennia of this experience, when women can live independently, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:34 AM
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I fail to see how anything of what you have written in this message applies to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:28 AM
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Many experts have been advising caution over the last 50 years. But it's good that we have omens that have successfully predicted 5 out of 0 economic crashes in the last 30 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:00 PM
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You don't need much strength to operate an FPV drone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:35 PM
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I agree with the overall message. That's my main issue with the manospheres - they assume women to be adversaries. I am not sure how one can ever find happy relationships with that worldview. It's just uncomfortable to live with someone who you think is against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:20 PM
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Why don't more women become part of the enforcement branches such as police and military? I feel like it should be feminism's first priority then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:29 PM
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People don't motivate need in housing/wages with risk of extinction. You are doing that with dating. Housing/minimum wages are basic mechanisms preventing creating slave-like conditions for people and providing basic comfort to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 11:09 AM
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So your approach is to project insanely smaller amount of data, which is largely erroneous (because it's based on your feelings from media and feelings of other people). Surely your feelings and vibes are more precise than social sciences. By the way, your statement about physical sciences is false. That topic has been discussed to death from ancient times. Models are expected to make predictions of not yet observed phenomenon in order to get a real stamp of quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:55 AM
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Lmao, human species are currently under no risk of extinction whatsoever. In fact, number of humans on the planet continues growing. In fact, there are way too many humans. But surely you are worried about all the dangers to human species, like ecology, overconsumption, etc? Besides, your point is disingenuous. Big difference between regulating dating and things like minimum wage or whatever is on whom the responsibility is and for what. In case of dating, you want to force a person to do someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:25 AM
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Well, like 50% of posts in this sub are men telling women that they don't understand their own motivations/sense of self, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:25 PM
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Where do you find all these women? I mean, I did see shallow women in my life, but I wouldn't say that it was a different percentage to shallow men. And about the "I am best" self-talk - men absolutely do that. Not in your exaggerated form, but I haven't ever heard anything even close to your exaggerated form from women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:33 AM
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I don't know, I don't feel like it's internalized. I mean, there are of course people who internalized it, but I don't think they are many. Even among younger guys, I sincerely doubt it's often approval-seeking. Jealousy (why does everyone but me has sex) - yes, most definitely. FOMO - again, most definitely. Approval - idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:20 AM
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if you even mention as a man you are okay with what your woman wears you’re instantly called a cuck or something similar If someone calls you a cuck (with a very few exceptions when it is done in a sexual context or in a very comedic way), then that person is a meanie and you should stop talking with them. In general, anyone policing your relationships is an unacceptable behavior. That has nothing to do with egos or dynamics or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:12 PM
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I don't think having sex for male approval is a thing after a certain age around after high school. I don't know, maybe it's just different in my culture but in general, men rarely talk about sex with each other. I have had men to brag to me that they had sex with someone only a few times in my life, like it's a rather rare event. What you are writing about is a small portion of very insecure people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:04 PM
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I don't know about women but your statement about how boys are taught couldn't be farther from the truth. men's worth is commonly tied to what they bring and "real" men never complain and just stoically solve all their issues (and if not they just heroically crawl to some hole and die)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:40 PM
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Well, reading russian news how all federal channels are in awe because Elon's father visited them and said that he likes russia, I am not sure what you are implying is always the case. There is a cargo cult of ~civilized Western man~ in many countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:32 PM
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I had a taste of this reality myself being 29, losing my virginity at 27 was a battle, I HATE lying, yet I had to do just that in order to lose my virginity to a girl, why? Because each time I was honest and shot myself in the foot that I was a virgin towards women in the past, I could see the spark of interest die out in real time as if I came out with some revelation that I'm some sort of psychopathic murderer. All women ask you whether you are a virgin? Is it some cultural thing where you liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:17 PM
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there are far fewer women than men on tinder Yes, I think so. which says a lot about both what women are looking for Well above average men. I don't really see how what you are writing contradicts my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:29 AM
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It is a majority experience. The normal Tinder rate for men where I live is one match per month if swiping everyone yes. (Not chat, not date - a match) Women, on the other hand, literally recommend their friends to go register on Tinder just to improve self-esteem because of how easy and satisfying it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:18 AM
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Your argument is the prime example of survivors bias. How many guys aren't wife beaters because they have never had a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:16 PM
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Because men aren't unfeeling robots? Because men need to vent? Because they are hurt? Because they struggle? Like what do you expect them to do? To disappear?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:53 PM
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Well, it's gay only if it is consensual, if a man rapes another man, it's not gay. It's just that being gay often implies a touch of femininity, and masculine culture can't accept any femininity anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:08 PM
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Oh my god, this is it, gay people have higher T. I am most definitely onto something here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1267577/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:53 PM
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Our sense of beauty is largely influenced by our culture and what it considers beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:05 AM
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I don't see any issue with feminism itself even in "developed" countries. A group of people are advocating for themselves based on their issues. That's a completely natural thing. What I do see issue with is that there is very little advocacy for men issues. Feminism doesn't care about men, but they don't have to, it's simply not their issue. We need more men movements. And I don't mean andrew taste and co, I mean healthy movements which don't put spreading hate as their goal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 07:45 PM
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Blackpill clearly won the battle royale. Young men now are under no illusions, they looksmax and pump-and-dump girls off bumble as much as they can. What? People have been doing that since time immemorial (except the bumble part of course; there have been other places for doing that).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:58 PM
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Women will gleefully send their fathers, brothers, husbands and sons to die in a trench. I mean, it depends. There are different women and different times. I can give you two examples from russian history. When russia started sending conscripts to chechnya in 90s, their angry mothers became such a big and scary political force. These mothers were going to the war zone to free their captured sons. Their movement was scaring politicians for almost two decades after that. But fast-forward to today,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:49 PM
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Where should I chase women? Tinder and other online dating services are created to make men depressed and miserable to squeeze money out of them. I don't know about others but I was under the impression that approaching women randomly outside is now frowned upon. And, more importantly, why should I chase women? I have PhD, I work, I am regularly exercising, I look after my appearance. Through how many hoops do I have to jump in order to find someone who is supposed to treat me like an equal? Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:10 PM
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It is but as black people, we are better off away from them anyways. I'll never understand trying to convince people who want nothing to do with you to be with you. I am not talking about convincing anyone of anything. The thing which you were describing is called racism. That is a factual statement. How to treat racists - kill them, give them medals, or ignore them - is a completely different question. And an interesting fact is that someone being racist harms both the racist and their victims.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:36 PM
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I happen to be black, and I wouldn’t care if someone had said that about black people Good for you! I happened to be an immigrant and don't care at all what other people may say about me. However, there are many people who do care and who are distressed about this and while I don't find being distressed a good strategy, between racist (misogynistic, misandrist, xenophobic, etc.) garbage humans and distressed good people I take the side of the distressed good people. And in practice many white fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:24 PM
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Replace word "men" in your text with any other social descriptor and you will be considered racist, homophobic, misogynistic, or any other *stic and *phobic words depending on the context. Like if you have written the exact same thing about black people, many would have (rightfully, in my opinion) called you a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 02:24 PM
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Does it correlate positively or negatively you mean? Because judging by how easily old people believe everyone who calls them on the phone they haven't had any life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:28 AM
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If some statement is correct then it's correct, if it's wrong it's wrong, it doesn't have to do anything with the personality of the person saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:22 PM
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I don't get all these discussions about age gaps. The issue is that there are predatory men and women who go into relationships with younger partners with malicious intent to leverage their power imbalance. This happens with and without age gap, when someone has immigration background or not, etc. If both partners are willing adults and there is nothing malicious happening, then it's completely fine irrespective of their age gap. Yes, in relationships with big age gaps power imbalance with malic…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:18 AM
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I think it's pathetic because it's clear you're interested in someone with less life experiences So you think that life experience is defined by the amount of years someone has been alive? All these flat-earth-believing old farts should be right then...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:58 AM
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Crime committed under influence is often judged softer than that committed in clear mind. Quick google says that in general in Switzerland killing people under strong emotions is a much lighter sentence than cold calculation (Article 113 SCC – "Totschlag"). People who commit crimes because of serious mental disorders, intellectual disabilities, etc. are not punished for their crimes at all. We are humans after all, and our actions are controlled by the mix of chemical in our brains, so it is nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:34 AM
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That is not how societal problems are solved. "Just don't be a pushover" doesn't work on a societal scale. If you reduce all issues to the level of individuals, this sub and all discussions about society as a whole don't make any sense. You are being abused at home? Well, just leave the abuser, what's the problem? US police does racial profiling? Well, it doesn't take much time of individual black people anyway, what's the issue? When there is power imbalance in society, there is a power imbalan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:43 PM
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That is technically correct. However, for many men that is the only way to achieve at least some success, so this argument is kinda dismissive, it's practically "let's just ignore all social issues because we all can survive separately anyway".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:25 PM
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Why do people fall for scams? People often give scammers money quite easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:21 AM
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I refuted this point in my earlier comment. People are afraid of terrorists, yet here in Sweden in the last two decades more people died from bee stings than from terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:21 PM
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I am not aware of taxes in the US. I included the federal 12% tax.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:20 PM
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It depends. It doesn't mean that men respect the relationship less. But important to note that it happens primarily with attractive men who have more than one such woman falling for them at any given moment of time, so they may have other preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:16 PM
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Where are you looking? In Sweden both parents get maternity leave and men happily sit with children. You would often see groups of men walking around with strollers. It's just that women don't want to be the breadwinners all the time, so it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:10 PM
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So, in other words, not lifestyle choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:06 PM
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The leading causes of mortality in the US are heart diseases and cars, yet you don't see people fearing cars and McDonaldses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:55 PM
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You do not sound like a man at all What? Did you expect me to write unga bunga or something? a black pill tag I don't have a black pill tag. Moreover, there is no black pill tag here. Also, black pill stuff is forbidden by the rules in this sub. The grey tag is for "no pill". I was made to fuck and to solve problems. And maybe so did you I experience lust and I like solving problems but I most definitely wasn't created for lust and anger. Anger is a problem that some men experience and spend the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:53 PM
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And? How does that help 3-4 times more dead men who killed themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:12 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8976222/ "Suicide is a leading cause of death in the perinatal period (pregnancy and 1 year postpartum)."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:05 PM
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Cool, so the healthier lifestyle choices is why men have 3-4 times the suicide completion rates of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:02 PM
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"Married Red Pill Man | Sex positive | European " Remind me please, which European country has capital punishment? I know only one, and it has much more serious problems than antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:00 PM
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Yes, it is. I am a man and I most certainly don't live on anger and lust. More importantly, I don't know men who do that. Men I know live on playing sports, having fun, helping people, and loving their significant ones. Are you sure you are not conflating a particular genre of action movies with reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:58 PM
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Yeah, drinking alcohol when you are depressed is a sure way to have two problems instead of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:55 PM
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That's not how fear works. Most people are afraid of terrorist attacks despite never being in one and despite them being an insanely low chance and low mortality events (considering how rarely they happen). Fear is more often an irrational social construct than a reality. If fear was rational, everyone would be running away from McDonalds screaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:45 PM
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What? Median working male in the US makes 60k per year. That's around 5k per month. I am not a USAnian but from what I can find, that would be 12% tax bracket, so 4.5k per month left. Median mortgage payment is 2.2-2.3k per month, so 2.3k left for everything else. Around 1k per month is spent by an average household on transportation per month. 1.3k left. Or $650 per person if there are two people in the household (we are not talking about children yet). That is for food, clothes, healthcare, re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:36 PM
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Omg. That is peak delusion. Out of gazillions of negative transformations our society has came through - constant bombardement with FOMO-inducing over-the-top perfect pictures, extreme achievement society where everyone without lamborghini is a loser, increased amount of sitting jobs and severely reduced movement, increased stress, growing influence of every small single mistake on your future, cancel culture (on both left- and right-leaning sides), increasing social isolation due to increasing …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:23 PM
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Good for you but people are different
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:51 AM
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I agree but I wonder where does the initial premise come from? Are there people who think that women are taking antidepressants as a substitute for being trad wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:44 AM
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I mean, it also works on men. Just look at the amount of narcissists and sociopaths on leading positions everywhere who are deified by men. Or how often people (both men and women) give money to scammers. It is almost if bad people manipulate people, using well-known bugs of human minds, these people sometimes become manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:11 AM
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Are you alright man? This comment didn't ask for your sympathy. It debates which risks are bigger and which are smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:34 PM
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I demand scientific proof that women are humans I think I can. Let's prove it by contradiction. Say, human females are of different (but closely related) species than human males. Both species of females and males are incapable of reproducing asexually (a basic biological fact). Human males are incapable of giving birth due to lack of necessary organs (a basic biological fact). Therefore, the only way of reproduction is for male to inseminate females, which would result in a hybrid specie betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:10 PM
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I don't think about problems of ultra-rich people. As much as it is terrible to lose a lot of money, if your net worth went from $200 mil to $100 mil you still have enough money to never work as well as for your children and grandchildren to never work. I am not saying that it's fair, it's just that the victim is just as fine as they were before, so it's very low on my list of priorities. It's only the numbers on their account that change, no difference to the quality of life. On the other hand,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:47 PM
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Yeah, true, but it is not always known who is father, not always there are opportunities to contact them, etc. With women it's just that the connection is always there because they are giving birth. But again, you are right, the risk is there, it's just a bit smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:10 AM
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This is just the textbook example of confirmation bias. Except dating market disadvantage and affair baby risk, all the previous points I have heard on both sides, depending on whom you are talking with and usually by people with very shitty views on relationships. More importantly, even here you are missing the point. Men are shamed when their girlfriend cheats not because "they are seen less masculine" but to motivate them to dump the cheating girl and not forgive her. The "weak" part isn't he…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:51 AM
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Okay, what social movement are we talking about? All my comments about feminism, which is also a social movement, stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:55 PM
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Yes, it is, but there should be moderation to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:50 PM
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"You are only good when you do good things for free!" Well, that's pretty much the definition of being a good person. If you are doing things for rewards then you are just doing things for rewards. That's called work, it doesn't have anything to do with being a good person. just want to live a quality life - will be forced to choose and adhere to the lifestyle of a bad person I have never seen a happy bad person. Some have unending all-consuming hunger for money or power, some are constantly ang…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:34 PM
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This is the first time I hear about a political movement that says that women are moral paragons without fail or whatever. I heard a lot of complaints from feminism about what issues women experience but don't remember what's described in this post. I am also not familiar with any political movement that says that women don't have lust (feminism is very accepting of women lust and fought against "slutshaming" or whatever), that women are not attracted to physical qualities (to say that would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:07 AM
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Just out of curiosity, can you please share examples of these plenty girls? It would be cool to add it to my list of "gotcha" arguments.
/r/MensRights24/08/25 01:56 PM
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What won't work? Statement that most men have specific opinions about women? I am sorry, existence of misogyny is news to you? https://www.undp.org/press-releases/almost-90-men/women-globally-are-biased-against-women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:23 PM
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Yeah, but enough for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:59 AM
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That applies exactly the same way to the commenter's claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:47 AM
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What? Overwhelming majority of men most definitely have very specific opinions about women and don't treat them like individual human beings. Have you ever heard about this small political movement that tries to fight with that? I think it's called "feminism" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:39 AM
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So the solution is for fathers to stop abandoning their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:25 AM
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Well, any side that makes claims is under the obligation to provide data. It's not about "gotcha" effect or winning the argument, it's about establishing facts. If someone replies to bullshit with bullshit then we get two bullshits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:23 AM
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I mean, violent crime rates are quite high in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:20 AM
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In fact, that assumption would mean that most men are manipulating abusers, which I sincerely doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:15 AM
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When talking about issues on the scale of society, people very rarely imply descriptors like "all" or "none" because there are always exceptions to almost any statement. This sub talks about societal issues, to question every time that someone writes "men" instead of "most men" is a bad faith argument imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:13 AM
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Abusers often shower you with love first
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:07 AM
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Data after data shows that men who have the most success in dating are usually more misogynstic no matter the age groups and the rest of the men are following thier examples . I am very interested in such data, could you please leave a link? I would gladly have proof for such arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:02 AM
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There are certain features which make you almost universally attractive. Like, try finding a man who thinks that Emma Watson is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:35 AM
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Yeah, I can see that happening here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:02 AM
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to get in a situationship with her Lesbian wants a lesbian situationship? Surely she just fakes it. "They are just roommates" (tm)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:00 AM
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I know. And black guys should walk around naked so that cops know that they don't have a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:56 AM
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I don't think there is assertion that there is malice. It looks to me like a complaint that the particular piece of advice doesn't work. Saying that something is wrong doesn't imply malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:34 AM
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Hey, I am really sorry to hear that, man. I hope things will get better for you and you will find trustworthy people in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:32 AM
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The belief that the relationship and family culture isn't skewed against men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:27 AM
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Heck even the most blue pilled women here agree that being attractive matters not personality What that has to do with pills? That has always been the case in the entire history of humanity. No sane person would deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:11 AM
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Red pilled are a smaller fraction because the bigger fraction are the men who have never had good opinion of women in the first place and/or haven't thought much about it. Why do you think jokes about "hehe marriage bad women bad" are so popular? The red pill comes when you put trust and your trust is broken, if you have never had trust then you have never been lied to, there is just no need to become red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:10 AM
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Well, good for you, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:23 AM
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> Ever hear stuff like "you'll never get a woman if you ..." as a man? What does "get a woman" mean? It means to collect her, to earn her, to gather her so that you can show off your achievements. "Get a woman" refers to succeeding at finding a female romantic partner. I don't think it's born out of misogyny because there is a much simpler explanation: it indeed can be a very difficult achievement for some men. In fact, for many men, since the social expectation in most Western countries is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:42 AM
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No, that's not a hostage situation, that's called "dealing with consequences". When one makes a free choice to enter contractual marriage, one has to deal with consequences of that. Hostages don't choose to enter the situation they are in. You are neither forced to enter marriage, nor are you forced to stay in it. There are just legal consequences from both of which you are well aware in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:35 AM
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Kissing also doesn't typically result in an orgasm, therefore kissing is both misogynistic and misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:21 AM
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Because people nowadays do anything for clout and ragebait is the easiest and most effective way
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:45 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:10 AM
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The results were surprising. For example, the CDC’s nationally representative data revealed that over one year, men and women were equally likely to experience nonconsensual sex, and most male victims reported female perpetrators. Over their lifetime, 79 percent of men who were “made to penetrate” someone else (a form of rape, in the view of most researchers) reported female perpetrators. Likewise, most men who experienced sexual coercion and unwanted sexual contact had female perpetrators That …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:34 AM
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men are half the rape victims and women are half the rapists. Nah, that's not true by any standards. I am not sure where your statistics are coming from, I haven't seen statistics confirming that anywhere. My personal experiences are also the same: I know multiple women who have been raped/almost raped, I knew women who have been abused, etc. With men - no such cases that I know. (I mean, except families of raging alcoholists where they abuse each other because they are raging alcoholists) I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:13 PM
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I am not a red pill, but I think there is a difference between "not able" and "significantly more difficult". For example, I am an immigrant in a different country. I worked very hard to get my place here, I have PhD, I have a more or less average appearance, a good salary, I traveled a lot, etc. I have a pretty fine character: I am direct and honest (not in the asshole way), I have my sense of morals, I am trying to help people. In my marriage with my ex-wife we have been the two sweetest buns …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:53 PM
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I personally (after school) haven't seen women doing that on the ground of looks or similar things. But it may be because I am from a different culture, I am not USanian. Anyway, women doing something doesn't negate men doing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:15 PM
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As per definition of "sexually unsuccessful men"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:49 PM
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Life is full of dickheads. But that doesn't negate the statement "Men constantly scrutinize how women look and are often offended by unattractive women" which I supported. P.S. Wellbutrin is da shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:21 PM
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Go to Instagram and look at comments for "below perfect" or even slightly overweight women, you will see people literally attacking them and writing shit for no reason. It doesn't come from nowhere, I knew guys who do it in real life as well. And, to be fair, there are women do that with men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:44 AM
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From what I can see after quick scrolling, these laws were primarily aimed at women cheating. So, cheating wasn't illegal, *women cheating* was illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:20 AM
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Oh, thanks, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:34 AM
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What's OCE? I can only find office for climate education
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:13 PM
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How did this idea work out for everyone so far? Because I see a lot of women unhappy with the direction in which things are going.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:40 PM
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Yep, it is exactly the problem. Do you think that young men have just collectively decided to become depressed and apathetic? We are largely a product of our society, the story that you achieve something because you are very good and have willpower is a myth, people who go from dirt to riches are rare exceptions, not the rule. If men are largely apathetic, you should question why did society failed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:43 PM
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> A man who willingly does favors to women Okay, so Jake is willingly doing favors for evil witch Emily. I am still confused. Why is he doing the said favors? What's his relation to Emily exactly? Let's get to the bottom of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:49 AM
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Then don't use that word. It's a weird arguing position that you refuse to use the proper definition of a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:06 PM
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Yeah, I somehow missed such women my entire life. Could you please give me an example of what that means? There is a very wide range of opinions on what "performing services" and "being an emotional tampon" are. Also, in this scenario, I still don't understand, to whom Jake suggests and what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:37 PM
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I don't understand the premise. Say, we have a man, Jake, who is, according to your notation, a "loser virgin" who accepts his situation silently. Say, we have a woman, Emily, who is Jake's friend. According to your scenario, Jake starts questioning his virginity and "suggests more". Suggests to whom? If to Emily, then she can have a choice of saying "no" and then Jake either has to choose to be friends with her or sever any communications with her. Or are we talking about Jake looking for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:07 PM
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You are lying, the cited comment doesn't say what you wrote it says.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:58 PM
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Unfortunately, many men still seem to have the false idea that being a decent person means much in the dating world. If you were under impression that being a decent person is about easy quick material gains then you were severely wrong. This has never been the case in the entire history of humanity. Being a parasite, stealing, lying, scamming, exploiting, etc has always been the quickest and easiest way to "success".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:55 PM
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What? When did rape and domestic violence statistics stop existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:31 AM
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In ultraconservative Japan probably. They follow traditions from long ago, arranged marriages, pressure to find a husband quickly. Surely people are happy there! Oh shit, wait a moment, 2/3 of marriages are sexless... No, I know, things are going well in South Korea! They are also an ultraconservative country. Minimal feminist influence there. Surely they have a baby boom. Right? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:33 PM
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I mean, if you hate feminism, dismiss all issues it raises, and put responsibility for everything on it, then indeed it would be responsible for everything bad in this world. Your post is based on a bunch of very strong uneducated statements which you make as easy as if you were writing about something trivial. In order to engage with your supposed debate, one has to first agree with your premises. I don't agree with your premises. They are colored through the lens of your own beliefs to the deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:07 AM
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Where do you find all these women who have opinions on penis sizes and talk about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:54 AM
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I am not a woman but I can answer for any person in the world: financial dependence is dependence. If something at some point goes wrong, you are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:23 PM
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I understand your argument and overall agree with it. You are completely right for attacking my position. I am however still hesitant to say that it should apply in this case. Not because of "scoring points" or taking sides - I don't like to do that. Perhaps the question of dynamics imbalance in male-female friendships is a worthy topic to debate and explore, I don't feel like it is the case but what do I know. But the way this "debate" is worded - I don't see how it is a debate, it is just an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:23 PM
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It depends on what you mean by arousal. If someone is attractive I may look at the face or throw glances at whatever body part I find attractive if it's revealing clothes. Usually not even intentionally. I wouldn't have sexual fantasies or any kind of erection or something and in 99% cases will forget about it the moment I stop seeing that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:42 AM
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Being where, spending time with whom? What superpower? I am discussing the attitude of your comment towards friendship where you seem to have an impression that the end goal of friendship is to have sex. That is in fact not friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:32 AM
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I am impressed by how expertly people in this sub fail at the simplest of concepts which people learn somewhere in pre-school. Are you sure you understand the concept of friendship? Like if you are with someone because you want to fuck them, then they are not friends for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:01 AM
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Lol, this sub doesn't stop to impress me. That’s my position in this debate and I stand by it. In what debate? There is nothing to debate here. If you think that it's not worth for you to have female friends - don't. What does it has to do with anyone else? We all will make our own decisions on that matter depending on our personal circumstances. I am perfectly happy to have women as friends, they have been nothing but kind and understanding to me and I try to be the same to tgem as well. Your o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:44 PM
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Cool. I have two legs and can climb stairs, it seems to work for me, so no need for ramps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:48 PM
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> Men who believe AI “girlfriends” can replace real women should be judged Judged for what? For having an opinion? > To believe though, rather foolishly, that AI will serve as a suitable replacement for an organic human relationship with a woman for MILLIONS of men very much implies a radically low opinion of women, a foolishly misinformed view of human connection. Japan has been dealing with loneliness (not only male one) epidemic for a very long time and their experience shows that even in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:41 PM
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Because people are notoriously bad at knowing what they want (what would make them happy). That has been the issue for discussions of generations after generations of philosophers. That has been scientifically proven. Many people think that having a billion $ will make them happy and yet numerous millionaires/billionaires are deeply unhappy and sometimes even off themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:24 PM
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How on earth is it misogyny to not fancy woman? There is nothing misogynistic about not fancying women. To want to not fancy women is, on the other hand, misogynistic. There is nothing misogynistic about not employing a woman. To want to not employ a woman is misogynistic. Are all gay men now misogynistic? No, they have never made the decision "I hate women, they are the source of all my issues, therefore I want to become gay". And no, it’s misogynistic because they don’t want control over other…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:41 AM
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Your not removing women, your removing your attraction towards them and turning it towards men Aka you are removing them from your romantic life. Again, if the solution to your problems is to remove women from some part of your life, that is misogyny in its purest form. Again the reason why men aren’t going fir it (even though it solves the issue) is because they want control over women That is a fruit of your imagination. There are most definitely men who want control over women, just as there …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:31 AM
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Sure, men == bad, women can't possibly be wrong, that has never ever happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:14 AM
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No, I understand the premise. If you see removing all women from some part of your life as the best solution to your problem - that sounds like misogyny to me. Like you have to hate women to want to stop wanting them romantically. I would say that it works the other way around as well. I don't accept your argument about "hierarchy" and superiority. I am a man and I do not want relationships to be "superior" or have some "hierarchy". That is specific to redpillers and conservative people who like…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:47 AM
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I wouldn't want to intentionally change my attraction just for the sake of convenience, that is absurd. Neither gay man should want to "convert" to straight, nor the other way around. Be who you are, regardless of how much more difficult it makes your relationships. In the end of the day, you can live without relationships, there is no god-given right to a wife/husband. But I do love your summary to the sub. It is quite entertaining to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:15 AM
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Maybe I misunderstand something but the desire to stop dating/loving/having any interest in women sounds a bit more like misogyny than your strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:10 AM
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Let me introduce the concept of bed bugs to you... Cockroaches are nice funny plush guys compared to these ungodly abominations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:26 AM
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Money is rather irrelevant as long as you cover basic needs. Maybe if we are talking about being rich-rich but even then you will attract a very specific type of women you don't want to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:55 AM
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Behold a kongeriket's child! pic of a cum-stained sock
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:46 AM
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There is no equivalency between these two things whatsoever, except the fact that both of them involve genitals at some point. Abortion is a medical procedure, not having access to medical procedures is an issue that beats not having vaginal sex (you still can masturbate, you know that, right?) by any standards. The equivalency would be banning men access to STD testing because many STDs are living (bacteria are living creatures) and we sure don't want to kill something living created by the god…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:37 AM
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Look for what purpose? If you have a woman who loves you and you love her then you are good, if either side stops loving the other side then they will indeed often replace their relationships. What is the purpose of beating yourself down?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:40 AM
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Marcus was not a Stoic philosopher. He was a practicing Stoic who happened to leave his personal diary. Where did you read that nonsense? I don't remember ever seeing word "value" in either Epictetus or Seneca. The notion of value goes against their entire philosophy. And they most certainly have not emphasized building any "internal strength" or "resillience". They were very precise and technical with what they preached: 4 virtues and living in accordance with nature (i.e. the correct use of im…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:23 AM
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Sorry, what are talking about? Stoic philosophers never said anything about any "value". Stoicism teaches to withhold your assent to a judgment for an impression until you had a chance to analyze it. Stoicism believes that deciding whether or not to assent to these judgements is the only thing that is up to you and therefore the only important thing, everything else (your possession, family, friends, body, even your automatic judgements) is indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:56 PM
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I think I probably was trying to answer to a different comment because I don't see connection between my comment and your earlier. Not sure what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:37 PM
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Stoics have never cared about any "value", neither monetary, nor any other. That notion has no relation to Stoicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:11 PM
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Building wealth and seeking wives in non-western countries is the opposite of what Stoicism teaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:07 PM
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gender roles aren't something evil to be fought anyway Yes, they are. Why do you think that you have the right to decide what role I must fulfill? Or what role my children must learn (if I will ever have any)? Who are you to decide that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:02 PM
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If your strategy is minimizing the probability of negative outcomes then hookers are indeed the right choice. They will with certainty offer you sex. Even better, you can become a monk - zero probability of rejection or bad dates or unsatisfying sex with hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:35 PM
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🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:31 AM
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Well, for example if you are in exclusive relationships, your dick is the only dick available by definition. There are numerous reasons to come at 2 am. For example, if you have been busy before that. It can perfectly mean that she is hot for you. Have you ever done anything stupid or uncomfortable because you have been hot for someone? Besides, asI reiterated before, 2 am is not the point. Pick any other time if for you 2 am some impossible time. The keywords are "she will make it happen".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:17 AM
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MEN HAVE A PROSTATE. WOMEN DONT. THATS WHY MEN CAN ENJOY IT. It has no connection to prostate whatsoever. Besides, women who like anal don't have prostates and enjoy it just as much. Furthermore, having a prostate doesn't make it any less painful, by your logic gay men should ever only engage in oral. And yes it is seeing one’s partner get hurt Well, people who are into that don't think that they are getting hurt, they get pleasure from that. In any minimally healthy BDSM activity, dom seeks to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:47 AM
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Not necessarily, depends on circumstances. I know, it's a novel concept to some women, but there are women who love their partners and do sweet and romantic gestures because of that. Sex is not always transactional. Forget about 2 am, that's an example to show the point. Use any other time that looks better to you. Or anything else. You are engaging in a bad faith argument. The point is not in what exactly is being done, the point is that when someone wants to be with you romantically and/or sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:29 AM
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Anal sex is degrading and painful. Most women don’t like it. Most women don’t find it fun. No it isn't, that's just your opinion. Gay people don't find it degrading and painful, men who like to be pegged don't find it degrading and painful, women who enjoy it don't find it degrading and painful. BDSM is also rooted in pain and suffering. What kind of man gets off on seeing his sexual partner get hurt? What? BDSM is absolutely not about seeing your sexual partner to get hurt. It is designed to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:55 AM
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I think it's not about sex but about having non-transactional relationships. It's just that transactional relationships are often structured in a way where promise of sex is exchanged for gifts and restaurants. She is either ready to drink cheap wine in a park with you at night just because it's fun or it's transactional. And to prevent further "what if she is afraid of parks": it's not about parks or cheap wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:37 AM
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No, the relationships are a bidirectional thing. If you're ready to randomly drive to her at 2 am and from her side she meets you only if you take her to the best restaurants for wine and dine then it isn't a relationship, it's a transaction. May as well go to prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:29 AM
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Either me or other people in the comments misunderstand what this post is about. I don't think it's about someone having a history, I think it's about you being just a logical safe choice for someone with history. And I kind of understand why: calculated marriages and other forms of rational relationships can lack drive or something that makes relationships relationships. Plus, we simply want to be desired as ourselves, not as value we may bring to the table: we are not ATMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:24 AM
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Does it say anything about female psychology? Yes. That women who regularly watch are more likely to watch violent porn than men who regularly watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:34 PM
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When rejecting someone you are not giving an objective evaluation of that man, but your subjective opinion. You may think that he is ugly but for someone else he might be beautiful. Etc. What you are suggesting is just telling people shit in their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:39 AM
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You don't even need to ask women, just listen finally to men who have big penises: it hurts women. You have to be accurate and aware every second. If you go too quick or too deep, even for a moment - your sex ends right there. It becomes somewhat better after several minutes of being accurate as they become more accustomed. Anyway, after that they are sore for quite some time. It also sucks for men because nothing fits you. You need to buy XL condoms which are not sold everywhere like normal con…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:38 AM
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Sure. I don't really understand how is that revenge in any possible sense (and don't really understand against whom) but whatever. The most important thing is that you understand that your statistics is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:39 PM
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That's not how it works. It's the same as saying that having annual salary of $30k puts you in 15% of top earners in the world. If you live in NYC you won't feel like top 15% with 30k/year. You should be selecting from the population that is relevant to your comparison, i.e., women who look for men, in the age where they still compete with you, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:38 AM
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In Sweden, where I live, both men and women are drafted, men get the same maternity leave as women, if men are underrepresented in a certain profession, they get preference (just like women in male-dominated professions), etc. Sweden is one of the most feminist countries in the world (if not the most feminist). Female diseases receive extensively more funds and attention than male ones. What? Women have always been severely underrepresented in all possible drug and safety tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:44 PM
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I agree, it's left and far-right who do that, not feminists. There is overlap between the two, but they are not the same set.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:17 PM
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You are wrong in that you think that liberal ideas are at any danger. Freedom of speech always happens sooner or later, the dam always falls under the pressure, it is only the question of time. I personally believe that it is not even a human law, it is a natural law. Just be patient, wait by the river and watch how rotten corpses of censorship float by.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:14 PM
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Adults can be harsh but it is usually not the school level of bullying. Like, when you are adult, you are not being called creep by your peers just because you were designated one for fun. Adults usually mind their own business. And yes, people do very suddenly become logical adults because in school children socialize with children but in adult life they socialize with adults who no longer operate on children rules. The understanding that you are no longer with same stupid children as you are c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:58 PM
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This "what if" is exactly how he bullies entire West which is shaking "what if he is irrational". He hasn't done a single irrational thing so far, I don't see any reason why he would start. China, on the other hand, can play the exactly same "what if xi is irrational" card. Bullies know very well how to deal with other bullies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:54 AM
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"Adolescence" is fiction, literally a fruit of someone's fantasy. Children are harsh and operate on completely fucked up rules which do not continue existing after they finish their school. Like, the fact that someone called you creep in school doesn't mean that you have to be a creep for the rest of your life, that's not some kind of "position designation". In adult life I see people being called creeps or incels only when they act like one, no one asks them about their past sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:45 AM
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avoid being slut shamed What's wrong with that? Why should anyone be "slut shamed"? What it's to you what someone does with their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:38 AM
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Words like incel, virgin, creep, or loser aren’t just insults, they cut deep into a man’s identity and self esteem. I don't know, I have always perceived most of these words not as indicator of not having sex life but as an indicator of being a creep. Like, it's not about physical qualities but the mindset and behavioral ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:32 AM
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Well, you disassemble houses of villagers piece by piece, salvage their fields, kill their livestock, steal everything they have in their chests, and then you hit them with your fist, hatchet or sword while they try running away from you. You are not clicking through some cut scene or something like that, you make the decision to ravage every piece of cobblestone and to hit them. The only thing it misses is blood. One of the core mechanics of the game is to intentionally expose a villager to bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:03 AM
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Why not? Imo Minecraft is even worse: in Minecraft you commit war crimes casually. It is a completely natural thing to murder and loot peaceful civilians who never attack you in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:05 AM
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It's such a stupid "controversy". I can commit literal war crimes by killing civilians, forcing them to conceive children with each other, kidnapping and imprisoning them, forced labour, killing their children, etc... in Minecraft. If you think about it, this is what people commonly do in Minecraft with villagers. I am not even starting talking about games designed for violence. Remember "Postal" series for example. I don't understand why people drew the line there and why the usual rules of "th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:38 AM
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Nah, he won't. That button exists only to scare West into not helping Ukraine. It's a bully tool, actually using it against a nuclear power is a suicide. And it works against rational countries just wonderfully: even though West understands that he isn't going to use it even if West bombs Kremlin (with conventional bombs), the sheer scale of potential destruction caused by just one nuclear missile is so large, that even the almost zero chance of him using it creates a large risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:28 AM
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ruZZia has absolutely no chance of grabbing any land from China. Not even close. The opposite scenario of china grabbing ruZZian land is plausible though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:26 PM
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I am confused, advantage in what? I thought the latest lore was that women don't swipe anyone right and it's the human pig experiment where men will swipe right a literal pig. Against whom does make up give advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:34 AM
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I don't know if it counts or not as avoidance, but I avoid looking in the direction of women in gyms and other places because of social anxiety. I am afraid they would think I am a creep and be disgusted. It's stupid but it is constantly on the back of my head no matter what. I also avoid talking, but I avoid talking to everyone because anxiety + I am an immigrant in a country with difficult for me to pronounce language so it often ends embarassing to me. Otherwise, somehow I manage to get along…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:44 AM
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I am pretty sure that satisfyers go 0 cm into vagina yet bring orgasms to countless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:45 PM
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Autism often runs in families :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:23 AM
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I have ADHD and it is a sister disorder to autism, people with one sometimes get some symptoms of the other. I have some autistic traits which are thankfully not major enough to qualify for an autism diagnosis but still there. Both ADHD and autism run in families.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:22 AM
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Thank god I am a bit autistic so I don't need to worry about my sperm eventually becoming "old" - I will pass it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:56 PM
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Sorry, unrelated question, but what is "terp"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:20 AM
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I mean, people in general like to whine, it's not exclusive to any group of people, neither men nor women, nor any political movement or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:18 AM
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🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:09 AM
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Yes, I agree with your statement
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:08 AM
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Yeah, but you still need to copy-paste and send the message. Like, there is a very large amount of time to withdraw.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:14 AM
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Efficient ≠ convenient or preferred. Swiping in apps is extremely easy, approaching women isn't so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:16 AM
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I mean, that wasn't the only time I won the Powerball by approaching women, just the most representative one, but whatever. Everyone is free to use their time however they want, time management is an essential thing. If dating isn't your priority and you want to do something else - go for it. However, if we are talking about relationships, then I would say that approaching women is significantly more efficient strategy than dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:03 AM
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Do you not understand what average means or something? I perfectly understand what average means, that's why I am explaining to you that average means average. It's not about how anyone feels about the average, it's a factual statement, "this is the average". Telling men should increase their effort, men follow advice, now that increased effort becomes the new average Correct. and men are back at square one. Incorrect, that doesn't follow from the previous statements. People in Sweden are happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:54 AM
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Putting aside the fact that this thought process contradicts what average means Why? Average means average, people don't have to be happy about average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:04 PM
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I approached my ex-wife. I didn't even plan it, I lost a bet or something and had to go approach any women and do a stupid thing. However, I got her number and we started talking and eventually went for a date. We have been together for almost 10 years and now are very good friends. I mean you guys can do anything you want but don't be surprised if it doesn't work out when you artificially limit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:48 PM
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I am not sure how it could help them The same way social media know how to keep you engaged for hours without end. They know what you like very well. We, humans, are creatures that always compare things. Do you know the idea of the more expensive products that exist only to sell the cheaper ones? Like, you make something with certain technical characteristic and then you just make a slightly better product at a much higher price. Bam, the cheaper one looks like a very good choice: only slightly …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:50 PM
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Of course it has. There is no longer a fairytale that you have to find a good husband to support you. There is much less social pressure to make kids, etc. I am not opposing your statement that technology overall plays the major role by separating people more and more. I just personally believe that in the specific case of incels, it was Tinder that was the biggest influencing factor. Not having sex is one thing, in order to organize a major toxic subculture, you need something more. Tinder was …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:05 PM
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No offense, but I think I start understanding women. First, I don't understand why you think that there are no potential abusers among incels. I suspect that many of incels would have been abusers, they just have never got a chance. Second, is abusing someone a "relationship" for you? Do I understand it correctly that by the same logic, rapists are even more successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:57 PM
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I personally blame Tinder for the existence of incels. The thing is that women have been becoming more and more independent, and since, overall, men suck, more and more women choose to withdraw from dating simply because they don't want to take the risks. At the same time, Tinder has naturally empowered more men: you don't need to go through your social anxiety to go and try to talk to some girl, just swipe and that's it. This already creates a big difference between number of men and women. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:44 PM
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Successful at what? Abusing people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:27 PM
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Intimacy? Love? Like there exists something between a sex toy and a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:25 PM
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Exactly. Who am I to judge anyone for exercising their freedom? You are free to choose that just as you are free to change your mind at any point of time, no explanations needed. As long as you don't seek to harm other people no one has any right to question your choices. People go to great lengths to explain it because they aren't actually withdrawing. It is a scream of pain in the hope to get at least some attention. It is like people who do suicide attempts in desperation to try to get some a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:01 PM
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protection by police Protection from whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:16 AM
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I mean, when it is a choice of someone who believes that it is the best course of action for them - they are free people, I am happy that they are trying to improve their life and I wholeheartedly wish them to find peace and support them in their decision. When it is posed as a threat though, I don't understand it. First of all, it is an incredibly small share of people who are sour enough to do that. Second, even if they were many, what's the threat exactly? "Women don't date me so I'll stop da…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:10 AM
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Why do you have relationships with someone you don't believe in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:31 AM
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I am so fascinated with this sub because I consistently fail to understand what people here are bitching about. Initially I thought it's about women not dating men, but then it's about divorces and children. There is only one consistent thing: there appears to exist a small group of men who have all the women in the world. Uber harem owners if you will, the secret women whisperers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:25 AM
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Just out of curiosity, do divorces often go this way where you live? I mean, not on reddit but in your personal observation. I grew up in ruZZia and moved to Sweden many years ago and I don't remember ever seeing anyone really dividing assets or traumatizing children or whatever. Before divorce you move apart anyway and then things naturally separate. I mean, surely people decided who gets what but, like, why would I be sad about giving the TV to my now ex-wife whom I loved for many years? Idk, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 01:24 AM
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I mean, you can just never marry or date anyone, then the risk of getting a divorce is 0%. I am not completely sure what's bad about having a divorce but probably there is a reason to be so afraid of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:41 PM
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I agree with you. The problem is that it creates a bigger problem. Historically radicalized by men women now make men become even more radical. It doesn't work out well for women. I am not trying to find whom to blame right now, just stating the fact that it doesn't seem to be in women's interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:05 AM
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You are aware that most posts on AITA, especially the top rated ones, are fake, right? Like, they very often have obvious plot holes or mess up timing or make no sense from the legal perspective or similar. It was especially funny dyring covid when all the posts started coming from the magical undisclosed AITA land where there was no covid, no quarantine, no nothing. Like it's a place where graphomaniacs write their fetishes or promote their political view. To base your worldview on what anonymo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:04 PM
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Once you are done with heresy (just to avoid spoilers) try "Warhammer 40k Lore to sleep to" on YouTube. This way you can consume 40k even when you sleep. Nothing puts you to sleep as good as stories about the most brutal regime imaginable 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 02:12 PM
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I mean, someone doing something and me not doing it doesn't imply that I can't be critical of that. There are numerous religious communities I deeply condone and criticize without any desire to organize any religious groups ever. About groups for lonely men: there are already more than plenty of them. D&D, Warhammer, Warhammer: 40k, MTG, etc etc etc. You would find plenty of lonely men there (more often than not autistic). It's just that the purpose of these groups is not to bitch about women an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:30 AM
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Because you can never truly be alone if you are into WH40k: you know that the Emperor is always there for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:04 AM
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Did you just invent D&D?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:56 PM
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There is a subtle difference between venting and reinforcing beliefs. I would say that if venting never stops and it becomes the sole purpose of some activity, it isn't venting. You work with traumas so that you can move past them, not make them the center of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:55 PM
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I didn't mean that most are. The question is what it all has to do with capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:33 AM
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Why do men complain about women complaining about men in bed? Why anyone complains?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:38 AM
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Yes, that's how we achieve equality: by writing something in a giant complicated book no one reads except people who build their highly-paid careers on knowing that book. I mean, North Korea have written in there book that they are a democracy thus they are a democracy. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:35 AM
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Not only has it changed, it is different within every culture. More interestingly, different people seem to have different takes on that. Some men find Asian women attractive, some don't. Some find short attractive, other long. Some like big tits, some like flat. Some like tattoos and piercings, some hate. Some like chubby, some like skinny. Some like modest clothing, some like expressive. Some like composed women, some like crazy. And the list goes on and on and on and on. I fail to see how hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:01 AM
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-Idealistic notions such as “men can live more purposeful lives when they are single” have no actual meaning and should be disregarded. I mean, if your purpose is to not be single then it's true, by being single you fail your purpose. However in that case I would question if it is indeed your purpose if you are failing it so hard If you find your purpose in anything else, then being single or not makes no difference to these things. Einstein didn't make some of the most important scientific brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:42 PM
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How does capitalism specifically prevent you from doing that? I don't really understand how capitalism is involved here. To the best of my knowledge, the notions of attractiveness have existed long before capitalism. In fact, they existed long before politics. I don't really know cultures that didn't have some kind of colorful clothes or similar mating attributes in their ancient history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:34 PM
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But what does capitalism have to do with the topic on question? I fail to see the connection between capitalism and women choosing attractive/self-confident/etc guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:20 PM
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What does capitalism have to do with it? Do you think in communism they gave everyone a wife at the Family Ministry? Or do you think women magically started being attracted to ugly guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:13 PM
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Ultimately the female fantasy is being picked. What a coincidence, it is also the ultimate male fantasy. Like, every first male-oriented romance is about a girl picking the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:30 AM
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That's more or less the point I was trying to show: this post treats these two things as something equivalent but to my taste I would rather be fired or whatever typically happens to those presumably falsely accused. And the idea of equating thinking about raping and thinking about falsely accusing is wild to me. Like I am not saying that falsely accusing is something acceptable, not at all, it is terrible, but on my personal scale of things I find thinking about raping someone to be much, MUCH …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:23 AM
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I still would choose that over a rape
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:10 AM
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That's sad and unfair and things like that shouldn't happen. However, on the topic of my previous comment, if I had a choice between that and rape, I choose to loose my job. In the end of the day I can loose job for an infinite amount of reasons, most of which have nothing to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:59 AM
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Imho the problem is much deeper. I don't think it's brutal because of the dating apps, I think it's brutal because social media and other media created this picture where everyone is entitled to love and casual sex, that love is something that solves everything, they created this picture of "the life" and that everyone who doesn't live "the dream" is a loser. Sex sales, you know. Also, I think it affects women as well. There are approximately as many women as there are men, and for every man wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:47 PM
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How often do all these things happen to you in real life? That's the most fascinating thing to me: I keep hearing how %group name% are all crazy but in reality I rarely see the said craziness. I live in probably one of the most feminist countries in the world (Sweden) and I am yet to be called a sexist or see someone being called one. Saying things like that in someone's face is just rude and wouldn't be appreciated by anyone involved (unless it was s retaliation for something bad you did). Peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:18 PM
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They aren't made to make men suffer, that's just one of the consequences of their business interests. Business interests of big corporations rarely (if ever) coincide with true interests of their customers. They just want to squeeze as much money as humanly possible - their legal obligation before the investors. It makes much more money to have a recurring customer, that's why your things will continue breaking like they are made of paper and your devices will continue getting outdated every 2-3…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:30 PM
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I am a man. Throughout my life I have personally seen two men to be accused of sexually harassing or raping a woman. I don't know if accusations are true or not, I didn't dig into it at all as I barely know them (one I actually don't know at all, not even the name, just know someone who at some point of life worked with him) but there were no consequences for one and some work-related issues for the other (he is a researcher, so some people reportedly stopped collaborating with him). Even if I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:41 PM
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