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yup
/r/MensRights22/06/26 05:30 PM
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"Despite having near equal pay in the current market, women express a disproportionate amount of grief over losing income when relationships end. This seems to be correlated with their sense of ownership over their partner and entitlement to their services and assets. To solve this problem, the current government are planning to lean into this largely unfounded conception. Their solution is to give women a proportionally larger amount of assets and funds. When combined with the aforementioned bi…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 10:03 AM
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And then that discrepancy will be blamed on discrimination and patriarchy
/r/MensRights01/06/26 11:40 AM
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Where are you located? If you're in California or Europe you can make a CCPA or GDPR request to take down your data, and they have to comply.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 06:10 PM
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Sod off
/r/MensRights07/05/26 06:02 PM
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They say they're against witch hunts, yet they want this guy burnt
/r/MensRights24/04/26 08:20 AM
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Yeah it sounds like bullshit. What I think they should expect in that situation is that he stops when they tell them they weren't joking. I think that it should also reasonably be deemed inappropriate if he deliberately asked them for consent in a jokey way to trick them to say yes. But if it was a genuine misunderstanding it's ridiculous to allow for retroactive revocation of consent. It's problematic in so many ways. If you're a grown up you should be expected to be held accountable for your d…
/r/MensRights13/04/26 06:03 PM
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You don't, in two ways; You don't because adapting too much to others doesn't lead to anything good You don't because the best thing you can do to attract women is to do your own thing and not listen to what they think they need or want. Because that's almost never what they actually respond positively to. Just do your own thing, ignoring advice on how to adapt to them, and they'll like it.
/r/MensRights02/03/26 06:10 PM
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Based. No more generosity without recognition. If they keep downplaying our contributions they should shoulder the responsibilities themselves. Let's see how long they'll keep it up.
/r/MensRights23/02/26 08:23 PM
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I'm not sure if you were following the vacuum cleaner analogy. I meant that women are approaching finding a man as buying a household item, looking for a man with certain qualities, like length, income, looks etc. And that's approaching a relationship from the angle of what you want to receive from the other, not as a mutual benefit situation. The reason why men end up by themselves is that women generally don't like when their men are deciding how to spend their time. Women tend to want to cont…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 11:21 AM
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So men that are lighter than the average woman also aren't ever rapists?
/r/MensRights12/02/26 10:58 PM
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Men are culturally asked to invest in the relationship; buy gifts, rings, pay for things etc. In other words; men are giving in a relationship, women are receiving. This probably has the consequence that women can end up in a consumer mindset in the relationship. And if you look at women dating, they're literally approaching it like buying a new vacuum cleaner; get the best specs. They're even encouraged to do so. So I'm not surprised if this effect is purely an attitude bias.
/r/MensRights12/02/26 06:33 PM
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This is also an age-old strategy, it's the meaning of "divide and conquer"; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_conquer
/r/MensRights03/02/26 08:12 AM
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That's more or less victim blaming. O.P did stand up for himself and got this.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 01:25 PM
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I'm sorry for you having to go through this. I've had similar experiences and what I would say to you is that the good thing about this is that you now have clarity. You know what you won't accept and what you're looking for. You can now stand up for yourself and go out and seek what you need. Although perhaps not super-common, there are definitely women who aren't like this. I know because I found my wife. She was definitely an outlier in this department, and I can safely say that the differenc…
/r/MensRights29/01/26 11:50 AM
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I was going to say this. The effect might also have been worsened for women through the fact that professors and research leads tended to be male, as leaders in general.
/r/MensRights14/01/26 11:20 PM
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Your body can react independently from your mind. The same can happen to women.
/r/MensRights12/01/26 11:07 AM
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"now we're not friends" Well, based on that, it sounds like you dodged a bullet there.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 09:43 AM
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If a man slaps a woman, we blame the guy. If a woman slaps a man, we also blame the guy.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 09:41 AM
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Of course, if a woderful woman kills a bunch of people, they must have done something to deserve it, right? /s
/r/MensRights27/12/25 04:25 PM
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I've been on paternity leave with our kids, and I found it exhausting. Our kids didn't sleep much at all during the day once they reached one year of age. So it was easy to end up in a state where you had no real break from caring. Seeing friends and such was really hard, since most were working during the day, and in the evenings there was a lot of family shenanigans going on with several small kids. So it's easy to feel trapped in that situation, and you become naggy on your partner who has an…
/r/MensRights21/12/25 11:21 AM
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Sure, true to some extent. But also, you're victim blaming. Men should have the right to abstain the fatherhood if the woman decides to keep the baby against his will. That's the least society can do for giving women the right to birth your baby against your will.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 11:09 PM
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Women apparently fought to be put in a position where they don't want to be.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 11:09 PM
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Guys, it's not a good look if we have these kind of articles on the sub where you blindly take the guys perspective just because he's male. There's a lot about this story that indicates that he wasn't really trying to save her to the best of his abilities.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 12:14 PM
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It's just whatboutism
/r/MensRights05/12/25 11:50 PM
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"Men have lost so many cuddly breasts and lovely home cooked meals over breast cancer" I would love to see that article published, it would probably almost trigger civil war 🤣
/r/MensRights11/10/25 09:28 AM
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I think this statement is terrible. And in general, it's incredibly silly to try to find a partner by listing specs. The rational mind isn't good at selecting a partner.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 06:59 AM
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Dehumanization of the enemy is a common tactic for authoritarian ideologies. It avoids having to justify the means.
/r/MensRights09/09/25 11:58 AM
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Yup.
/r/MensRights08/08/25 07:25 PM
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The Scandinavian countries do have feminism, mostly in the left wing movements. But they classically had quite an utilitarian and neutral attitude towards gender roles, and also an egalitarian movement that stemmed from the socialist ideals of freeing the individual from sociateal demands, so people could have equal opportunity and contribute to society at large. Things that tied people down, like childcare, elder care, or children needing to help out at the family business or farm, was eliminat…
/r/MensRights17/07/25 01:13 PM
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It became abundantly clear to me that men were in trouble when feminist institutions were happy to see that women dominated men, as in thinking that it's good if females are severely overrepresented or are outperforming men. I think this movement will prove essential for male mental health moving forward, we're being subjected to a severe gaslighting campaign right now. I must say that this community means the world to me, not being able to discuss all the discrimination against males was really…
/r/MensRights12/07/25 07:23 PM
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Wait, are the people who blame you for leaving aware of the incident? Sounds like maybe not?
/r/MensRights05/07/25 11:20 PM
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Men have to fight tooth and nail to gain existence rights
/r/MensRights01/07/25 02:11 PM
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Honestly, you could fight this with HR and such. But it's going to suck and be a lot of hard work. So why not just tell them straight up how you feel, and then proceed to hand in your resignation? "I'm not putting up with this, bye", basically. That way you can keep your dignity and give them something to think about at least. If that's not an option, how about trying to find better seating, so they can't do that kind of sly plausible deniability shit? You could ask your boss for that at least. …
/r/MensRights27/06/25 11:10 AM
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That's very unrealistic argumentation. People have and will continue to have sex.
/r/MensRights25/06/25 12:30 PM
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If men were the ones getting pregnant, you could bet that it would be illegal to keep a child against the wishes of the woman.
/r/MensRights25/06/25 12:29 PM
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It's worse, "global pandemic hits males of all ages, women most affected"
/r/MensRights21/06/25 07:36 PM
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It's also to be able to read you better to exploit you more. A stoic attitude is hard to break through, since you can't read the guy very well, which probably frustrates women with this kind of exploitative attitude.
/r/MensRights17/06/25 02:08 PM
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Sure, some are. But I think most people here understand that tradcons just want to put men back into the cage; "stop complaining and get back to work".
/r/MensRights16/06/25 05:03 AM
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Hey, let's not assume that it played out exactly as the article lays it out. Like the article says, witness testimony may change due to lots of different dynamics and pressure. We actually don't know what went down. If it was induced false accusation, it's horrible, though.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 05:36 AM
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Well, they'd need an infinite dollar gaslighting campaign to convince us that we're not being excluded :D
/r/MensRights01/06/25 10:35 AM
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Religion has spiritual roots. But I think you can safely say that most religions have a spreading component on top of that, where they try to maximize the number of members through both multiplying and takeover. They will do the first thing by encouraging family building and having many kids, using policies like forbidding contraception. Takeover will be done in the form of aggressive recruitment techniques and takeover tactics like missions and crusades. So many big religions are more like viru…
/r/MensRights18/04/25 02:31 PM
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It's classic victim blaming, very prevalent in attitudes towards men.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 09:48 AM
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It's basically the tagline for supporting the "disposable male" view - we're only good for what we can provide It pretty much equivalent to say "nobody cares, deal with it". So yes, toxic, I hate it
/r/MensRights09/03/25 12:29 AM
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It might be that women are attracted to masculine men even though they rationally don't want to, or have been taught not to. That tracks with my experiences at least. In fact, I don't think women, or men for that matter, would generally be attracted to a person with the qualities they claim to look for. Your rational mind and your instincts are very different. Plus, people generally aren't completely honest about their preferences, for various social reasons. Another interesting theory is that w…
/r/MensRights27/02/25 07:41 PM
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It's a good idea, but not all compat sports gyms are good. I've been to quite a few toxic ones, where it wasn't about camradery, honor and mastery, but more about power and penalism.
/r/MensRights23/02/25 07:33 AM
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What do you mean that the science says that? Is there any causation stated? Correlation does not imply causation. The fact that women "don't know that" is not what I'm claiming. I'm saying that it could be that women who prefer more sexual partners are more likely to commit adultery or to divorce. The numbers are still relative, it's not like nobody's trying to stay faithful. It can still be that some people are worse at staying faithful, even of they try (or not). It could also be that the stud…
/r/MensRights13/02/25 09:45 AM
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I've seen this one before, and it's probably true. But I think this is a case of misinterpreting what is the cause and what is the effect. I think it's more likely that the interpretation should be "prefers many sexual partners before marriage -> prefers many sexual partners after marriage".
/r/MensRights13/02/25 08:08 AM
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I mean, does earth need humans? Not really. By that logic, neither men nor women are needed. If we're talking about contribution to society, I think both genders are useful. But either gender could build their own society if the reproduction question was solved. To say that you don't need the other gender is just saying that you don't like them, because yeah, you could survive without them, at some expense. If we're wanting to discuss what would be the hardest; build society solely with men or w…
/r/MensRights03/01/25 09:07 PM
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women actually no longer need us except for reproduction That means nothing. You can just as well say the opposite: men don't technically need women except for reproduction. The problem is the mere fact that they say that they don't want/need men. That's what we need to fight: this gender war agenda.
/r/MensRights03/01/25 02:16 PM
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Well, at least it seems like this will self-correct as soon as they notice that all burglaries are done in the women's locker room :D
/r/MensRights28/12/24 12:22 PM
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We have to kill the shaming tactics, like "you're not a real man", "you don't deserve X if you don't man up etc". Those are statements designed to keep us down. We should say "I don't care whether you approve of me or not, I have my own values". Or "We don't care about your disapproval of our needs" or something like that. I also really dislike it when trads enforce these views by really trying to cement that men are meant to serve or deliver, ignoring hardships or needs. It's not forwarding the…
/r/MensRights24/12/24 01:17 AM
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... and complain how much we're the actual victims who are lacking the women to help us take care of the kids and cook food
/r/MensRights23/12/24 09:42 AM
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I've worked in multiple countries, and now live in Sweden. And although there's welfare, it's become gradually stricter due to misuse in latter years. There have been lots of scandals lately about people unfairly losing their welfare, most notably a slew of terminally ill ones. And with the social system there are always more rules. For instance, you can't keep you kids at daycare if you're not actively working. There's not even a way to pay for that. So for instance, you can't take a few hours …
/r/MensRights05/12/24 07:41 AM
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The statement they make is designed to smear men, but at the same time there is some grain of truth to it, which I guess is why it's powerful. Like Jordan Peterson says, traits like aggressiveness follow the Pareto distribution, meaning that even though the average difference in aggressiveness between men and women is small, the difference becomes very accentuated if you look at the extremes. So if you look at the very most agressieve individuals in society, say the top 1% agressieve, 90% of tho…
/r/MensRights30/09/24 08:19 AM
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In my opinion you don't need to think like that. I think men just have to become more stern in terms of having standards, asserting their needs and wants, and not take on submissive or pleasing roles by default in relationships. We can achieve this by male support networks, having a common voice for the needs of men, and fighting back against toxic ideologies who aim at undermining men. In fact, a lot of women respond extremely well to assertive men. They tend to claim the opposite, but in my ex…
/r/MensRights27/09/24 10:37 AM
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It sounds like similar reasoning to MGTOW. I think it's a great way to protest. It's non-confrontational and disarms almost all male shaming tactics. It might turn the tables to the point where a dialog can start again. Plus, men might get fora where they can interact positively with others again, without being shamed. Which might be great for resistance overall.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 10:51 AM
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I've tried it for about 6 months and for me it was intellectually understimulating, even if it was quite relaxing. And I felt isolated due to the inflexibility you have when taking the kids schedule into account. I can understand ther some people feel trapped in such a situation. If I could pick I would have loved to take turns with my wife; every second week or month or so.
/r/MensRights08/09/24 10:51 AM
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Can you normalize it by severity of crime? I think this poster would be more effective if you could see that the crime was the exactly the same. Maybe something like "premeditated murder of a single person in state X leads to a death sentence in Y% of the male cases, but only Z% of the female ones" ( but better worded :D )
/r/MensRights01/09/24 11:22 AM
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either men and women are equal and she shouldn’t expect to be paid for OR she should be paid for but on the premise of her being an object This is a huge problem. Many straight women signal very strongly that they want a commanding, emotionally unattached man, who will "take her with storm", i.e overrule her (non-)logic and command the relationship. And then they state that they value the absolute opposite, a loving and equal partner. But not only do they send these mixed signals, they blame men…
/r/MensRights01/09/24 09:59 AM
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I can kind of understand the frustration of being physically less strong than the majority of your peers, and at the same time be seen as a prize/someone to pursue. As a man I understand that it's not the same struggle as what us guys have. BUT we have had systems to regulate this. Chivalry was essentially designed to create a protective network for women to negate this effect quite a bit. So if you argue for total equality, against Chivalry, and thereby diminish your support network, you will h…
/r/MensRights08/03/24 12:07 PM
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I actually think it's just "no men", the CIS thing is something else
/r/MensRights08/03/24 11:46 AM
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According to their logic, 100% women = 100% equal
/r/MensRights08/03/24 08:42 AM
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It's wealthy OR sexy/dangerous https://youtu.be/lL13EeEhgag?si=mTXm7KPMlqY26c3z
/r/MensRights29/02/24 09:33 AM
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I just wanted to say that women tend to change personality a bit when they get pregnant, most likely since they're getting hit with loads of hormones. So if she says that she's going to see how she feels about it when it happens, I would be very cautious. Based on my experience she'll be a lot more prone to keeping the baby once she's in that situation.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 07:51 AM
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I'm swedish from a major city. Women are very privileged here and I get the feeling that they only attempt to keep the relationship going as long as it suits their personal lifestyle and agenda. Growing up here I got very disillusionized about relationships. Other than that, equality-wise I think that equality is in a better state than some other countries. There's definitely woke influences, but not a lot of actual policy that follows it. If there's unfairness, it's generally from older policy.…
/r/MensRights09/08/23 04:32 PM
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Maybe the privilege is that you're allowed to be an asshole. Which I guess is great if you're an asshole, and absolutely worthless otherwise. This also helps perpetuating the myth that guys are assholes.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 06:23 PM
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Well, they'll get upset about you getting unwell, because you're no longer providing and now they have to find someone to replace you. Which inconveniences them. ;P
/r/MensRights07/08/23 06:22 PM
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No, the rich want a steady supply of workers to keep the labor price down. And they also want a desperate lower class to exploit. So they're all for population growth, by any means.
/r/MensRights05/08/23 08:26 AM
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They have to suffer the noise of both the drone and the guy digging his grave. /s
/r/MensRights08/03/23 10:28 PM
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#notyou
/r/MensRights29/01/23 08:54 AM
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Well, that's the thing; it might have been, but it's locking men into the proverbial cage of their societal role, just like women felt forced to take the caring and nursing role. We can afford moving on from this in today's society.
/r/MensRights22/01/23 05:12 PM
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Your attitude is not helpful or healthy. It's of course positive if someone can uphold a strong character and be a protector. But when we require it and refuse to acknowledge that some might not want to or isn't able to, it's an example of toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights22/01/23 03:27 PM
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While I agree that the term has meaning and can be useful, it's almost never used that way unfortunately.
/r/MensRights22/01/23 02:20 PM
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Meh. My take is that the patriachy isn't men trying to dominate women, it's women and men making men "bring home the bacon". It's got pros and cons, but it's certainly not what it's portrayed to be.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 05:38 PM
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It will. At the very least, people in this kind of forums will feel support. And I think it's spreading.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 09:25 AM
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I think that's a world record for most underhanded question.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/22 06:52 AM
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Oh geez, I never realized this could be the case. But it makes perfect sense.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 09:44 PM
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The only way to win that game is to play ball. If she says that you're not what she wants, just say something along the lines of you not existing to please her and if she acts like that you also have no interest in being with her.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 06:12 AM
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Stand your ground. Laugh her protests off, call her childish, whatever. Just make sure you establish this line in the sand. If you don't it can get worse. Speaking from experience.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:23 PM
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Hearing about the low male participation in college makes me think that we need to start more male spaces, especially schools. It's time to put the car in gear, drive off, and show them how much we can leave them in the dust if we dare and want to.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/22 11:20 PM
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I haven't looked into the research, but I've seen numbers indicating that women make 70-80% of consumer purchasing decisions. That's (according to what I've heard) a big reason why marketing is targeting women so heavily nowadays: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbescontentmarketing/2019/05/13/20-facts-and-figures-to-know-when-marketing-to-women/
/r/MensRights05/09/22 02:18 PM
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But .... That's the American dream ;P
/r/MensRights20/08/22 07:22 AM
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This is horrible to say, but largely true in my opinion, and we really need to talk about it in society. I get that it's unfair to have someting like an oppressed native tribe argue for their rights in an objective manner with research backing their claims. We need to listen to those voices. But we can't let subjective stories guide decisions. We can however let them guide further research or inquiries. At the end, society needs to be rational to be fair, at least that's my conviction.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 10:22 PM
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Lol, you're really something, aren't you?
/r/MensRights26/07/22 09:55 AM
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Stop victim-blaming.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 10:30 PM
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Cue feminist answer: Only creepy men fear being called creepy.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 10:22 AM
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And then we'll hear the explanation why it's much worse for women to die, and that men dying affects women the most.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:40 PM
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Maybe the next word will be "manexisting"? "God, I find it so annoying that Frank manexists, why don't all men just die already?"
/r/MensRights11/06/22 02:30 PM
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"10 other good ways of murdering your husband if he's useless"
/r/MensRights06/06/22 03:33 PM
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Maculinism even :D
/r/MensRights29/05/22 04:17 PM
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Femicide is a patriarchal term invented by the same incels that call females females. It should be called womicide. /s
/r/MensRights07/05/22 07:37 AM
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It's men's fault that it's women's fault!
/r/MensRights01/05/22 02:10 PM
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Feminists: Please stick around, we need you to be our peons! But don't express any opinions please.
/r/MensRights20/04/22 01:33 PM
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You're touching upon something here, which is that expressing independence while being reliant on the grace of others is nothing short of being disrespectful.
/r/MensRights20/04/22 01:27 PM
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My concerns for these echo chambers is growing. These subs might look completely benign to the casual observer. But in reality they might hold very extreme views, and there will be almost no indications of this. Maybe it'd be a good idea to come up with a metric of how "inclusive" a sub is, for instance by showing how many of the total amount of posters have been banned as a percentage.
/r/MensRights19/04/22 11:14 AM
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Yes, I've tried the waters a few times and according to them I'm apparently a despicable human being. Got warned everytime I said something. The first time I said that I agree with the fundamental principles of first wave feminism, i.e equality . And that I understand that that perhaps required some fighting against men, but that it needs to change now and that I disagree with the current nomenclature of feminism because it's discriminatory towards men (thinking of terms like patriarchy, toxic m…
/r/MensRights19/04/22 10:28 AM
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I'm just clarifying the things you yet again are misinterpreting/misunderstanding about what I said. 2.5% does not change "depending on the sample size" (it's STILL 2.5% No, and I never claimed it does. You said 25 out of 1,000 vs 5 out of 1,000 Hardly supports a genetic correlation...lol The numbers would need to be far higher. Wat you say isn't true. 25/1000 is a perfectly valid ratio that can be shown to be correct. But it needs to be done with statistical significance, which requires a certa…
/r/MensRights15/04/22 11:40 PM
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25 out of 1,000 vs 5 out of 1,000 Hardly supports a genetic correlation...lol The numbers would need to be far higher. I find it so hard to take you seriously when you make blatantly false statements like this. It obviously depends on the sample size. There is NOTHING in this study that "implies that children of rapists are more likely to be rapists. How about you read what the study summary says? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4469797/#!po=35.9649 We included all men convicted of …
/r/MensRights15/04/22 09:05 PM
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If you're going to criticize what I posted, do it in an intelligent way please. 2.5%...WTH 2.5% compared to 0.5% in the general population. That's an overrepresentation by 500% brothers and fathers...not children of rapists. I don't know if you knew this, but one is generally the child of ones father :D Anyway, the point is that the overrepresentation in sex offending can be seen spreading within the family. Nature vs nurture is still not 100% clear, but it's pretty clear that the behavior sprea…
/r/MensRights15/04/22 08:11 PM
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I'm not saying that it's undisputed, but for instance https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/apr/09/risk-of-sex-offending-linked-to-genetic-factors-study-finds Additionally, if the law allows for the biological father to meet their offspring, even in rape cases, there are also cultural influences. (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2019/06/19/abortion-laws-bans-rape-parental-rights-column/1432450001/)
/r/MensRights15/04/22 06:03 PM
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How pro-life are you? I'm trying to spread the idea that being pro-life, in the more extreme cases, is essentially making rape into a viable means of reproduction by allowing for children of rapists to be born. These children potentially carry the rapist genes with them, creating more rapists. This makes extreme pro-life super super effed up in my eyes. Just a thought.
/r/MensRights15/04/22 05:40 PM
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Yes, for sure. I'm not proposing that, but I'm positive to the idea of financial abortion, i.e that the father is lifted from any responsibilities as a father, and that the mother may chose to go ahead with the pregnancy, but then does so without the financial aid of the father. In that way, women are in charge of their own bodies, and men can still opt out if they were tricked or didn't consent to the conception. Ideally there would be just that, consent to conception, but I don't think it's po…
/r/MensRights15/04/22 05:36 PM
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The "before sex" choice applies to women as well, and therefore shouldn't be seen as leveling the playing field.
/r/MensRights15/04/22 12:39 PM
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What's "RP"?
/r/MensRights12/04/22 03:43 PM
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What really bothers me is the "job supervisor" attitude; as soon as you show yourself you get a task assigned. "Can you hand me that other bag". Like sure, but you were already grabbing it anyway and me getting involved is not going to make it any faster.
/r/MensRights11/04/22 02:50 PM
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I'm afraid that we cannot keep the pitchforks at bay forever (meaning people wanting to shut this sub down). We can only hope that public opinion sways fast enough for this sub to become a non-issue. I don't think we're doing anything wrong, we're just uncovering the uncomfortable truth that men's rights have been neglected for a long time. I hope people wanting to shut this sub down realize that ligging men's rights is a good thing; that acknowledging men's rights will allow society to become f…
/r/MensRights29/03/22 04:06 PM
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I'm on the side of thinking that this was totally understandable. I don't think it's OK to joke about someone's physical disability or something they're very consious about UNLESS you've established that relationship with the person in question. And if you're going to pull something like this in public, you better be sure that it's not going to cross any line. If you do this regardless, it's a straight-up provocation. Now Will ended up cornered here, his only socially acceptable option is to jus…
/r/MensRights28/03/22 11:15 AM
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Great! That's a breakthrough.
/r/MensRights27/03/22 05:07 PM
12

FWIW I've seen that women tend to identify with the idea of carrying a child real quick. Of course not everyone, but it's absolutely a thing amongst women to be overpowered by the hormone flood and just go forward with the pregnancy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 09:57 AM
36

But men are causing the fights*! * because we forced them
/r/MensRights08/03/22 07:08 PM
3

I previously posted here about the ridiculousness of the "If" poem by Rudyard Kipling. In my eyes it basically says that "you're only a man if you can take any type and amount of shit and just soldier on". Those are the ideals of a machine, not a person: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46473/if---
/r/MensRights08/03/22 08:26 AM
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It's surprisingly ambiguous though, maybe they're doing that on purpose?
/r/MensRights08/03/22 08:23 AM
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They're not totally inept. If they had been socially conditioned to push through, like young boys are, they'd still be able to make a big difference. But they're generally not. Not that I think anyone should be forced to wage war, but still.
/r/MensRights03/03/22 02:12 PM
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TL; DR from that thread is "I don't care about men, their problems, the problems we create for them, or their suffering. They can suck it.". Gee, thanks, I'm so hopeful now.
/r/MensRights16/02/22 08:47 AM
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"You're being disingenuous"
/r/MensRights15/02/22 01:17 PM
2

Gentle men? Men at your disposal? ;P Seriously though, I think men have many valiant virtues. I think manliness traditionally has been about raising above your personal sphere and consider what's good for the group in a larger context and over a longer time span. I googled around a bit and found courage, wisdom and integrity as the most important ones. I personally value how logic and reason has a strong precence in the male tradition. Maybe we can come up with something based on some of those?
/r/MensRights13/02/22 12:15 AM
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"lower than average IQ of between 69-72" She should still be held responsible, but with that IQ she might actually be dumb enough to not realize what would happen.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 08:28 AM
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I see mostly a bitch fest of complaining. Er, what? This is a sub meant for men to bring up their problems and discuss their rights. And get empathy. Do you call it bitching when women bring up their problems in other subs? I didn't think so.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 08:58 PM
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Societal norms are perpetuated by people from all parts of society, not a specific subset of the population. This is something we really need to come to terms with, especially since feminism claimes that men are responsible for how society looks today, whereas it's really womens fault equally, and everybody else for that matter.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 10:33 AM
2

A lot of insults coming from you without answering the question. I rest my case.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 11:01 PM
3

Would they consider lesbianism? Not in a thousand years. They considered that a "yuck" thing and would walk away if you talked about it. You are praising this behavior that you claim that they exhibited. What exactly am I supposed to infer other than that you dislike positive attitudes towards lesbians?
/r/MensRights05/02/22 08:23 PM
0

Agreed
/r/MensRights05/02/22 10:53 AM
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Why are you throwing shade at lesbians? Not cool.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 10:52 AM
7

How do you convince a believer to not believe?
/r/MensRights31/01/22 05:17 PM
7

Thanks. I'm from Sweden too, and reacted to the fact that fathers aren't considered at all basically in the postnatal care. I respect that the mother goes through a lot more physically, but it can be pretty rough as a new father too; you're potentially dealing with a lot of personality changes and irrational behavior from the mother, which goes on for quite a while. Taking care of an infant is pretty rough in of itself, and if the mother is struggling with postnatal depression or something simil…
/r/MensRights31/01/22 05:09 PM
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Stuck in the societal norms I see ;P
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:29 PM
3

So how do you know they were drunk?
/r/MensRights21/01/22 07:10 PM
2

Very sad to hear. In this situation I would seriously recommend moving country.
/r/MensRights17/01/22 07:15 AM
9

And they still think they want it. Why?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 02:21 PM
4

Think about what will happen next. Would you feel secure living with the person who left you like that? If I'd wager a guess your relationship's already broken on a fundamental level. I think you should think thrice about taking her back, you're probably much more likely to be able to build a healthy relationship with someone else.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/22 04:36 PM
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This isn't nearly safe enough. We need a referee and a conductor as well, making sure that the contracts are being followed while the act is being performed. And it's probably just as well that the barristers of both parties are present.
/r/MensRights25/12/21 11:14 AM
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Sure. The movement has been smeared, because they fear it. It's powerful, honest, and on the rise.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 12:43 AM
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They seem to ban at will. I got banned last week for stating that I felt like I could discuss mens issues much more freely in "another mens rights sub", implicating his sub. I posted that to see if they were open for a discussion. Nope, instaban!
/r/MensRights22/12/21 09:06 AM
3

Makes me think "death by a thousand cuts"
/r/MensRights13/12/21 11:39 PM
1

Same here. Felt like I was going crazy. So happy to be here. Together we are strong!
/r/MensRights12/12/21 08:46 PM
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Yeah, this is so disingenuous
/r/MensRights12/12/21 08:35 PM
4

Yup, this happened to me on my first, quite innocuous, post.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 02:21 PM
2

That's true, but it's called "getting help" or "strategies of breaking out of the pattern", not "stop being a victim".
/r/MensRights30/11/21 01:20 PM
2

Yes. And I don't like that he rejects the idea of men being victims in this situation.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 06:27 PM
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4chan is fringe enough for unfree speech activists to not see it as a major threat. But just as free speech is allowed on streets and in town squares, I think we do need to do something to prevent censorship on the platforms which are large enough to arguably constitute some type of public space.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 03:06 PM
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That's like saying that we shouldn't treat obesity since you can choose to not eat so much. All in all, a pretty ignorant and unrealistic statement. People have sex. It's a natural drive. We usually aren't very analytical when we do have sex. To expect that people are 100% rational when it comes to sex is completely unrealistic. We need to have systems in place to combat the situations that this puts people in, not blane it all on them.
/r/MensRights27/11/21 06:39 PM
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Oh god, Casino Royale was the worst Bond flick ever. I hope they don't do that again.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 10:33 AM
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That's true until the department of truth enters the chat, like they did with the classic star wars movies. Imagine that we almost lost those.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 10:32 AM
4

By the definition of this chart, I do a lot of mansplaining to new hires, irrespective of previous experience level. I think it's common courtesy to verbalize what I am doing when working together with others, so they don't have to ask everything, and also spell things out better so I share the vocabulary, my mental model etc. I feel like the intent behind the engineering tradition of sharing knowledge and trying to reason together is being questioned. It's not about putting people down, it's ab…
/r/MensRights14/11/21 09:28 AM
2

According to an article I found, fatherhood will be investigated and tried with DNA, unless you sign voluntarily. If it turns out that you are the father, you will be required to pay alimony, though. Seems like there is no way of juridically resigning from fatherhood, unfortunately. https://www.familjensjurist.se/fraga-juristen/familj--barn/kan-man-avsaga-sig-faderskapet-samt-skyldighet-att-betala-underhall/
/r/MensRights13/11/21 06:48 PM
9

Feminists when they see this: "But why are we blaming men? Well, it's really mens fault!"
/r/MensRights08/11/21 11:20 PM
4

World domination through the effective application of double-standards and exploitation of decent peoples goodwill.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 11:18 AM
1

To me it helped a lot to be able to voice these opinions and see that not everyone succumbs to being silenced about the oppressions against men. I think society is making a huge mistake when they are silencing groups like men are being silenced today, and I desperately needed some outlet before going crazy about the cognitive dissonance in the public discourse.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 11:58 AM
2

So is the theory that women naturally tend to seek multiple partners, men kind of do the same, and this hinders the concept of a family? The natural follow-up question then becomes: why insist on enforcing the family as a concept? Couldn't we live more like in tribes instead?
/r/MensRights02/11/21 11:54 AM
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Woman breaks up with man = man not needed anymore, go away Man breaks up with woman = man still needed, how dare you leave these people taking care of themselves?
/r/MensRights01/11/21 05:41 PM
1

Why terminate the family?
/r/MensRights31/10/21 06:55 PM
5

"Let's conscript them to do the work!"
/r/MensRights11/10/21 11:24 PM
1

Well, to look at the bright side this is just the acceptance phase, which I think many of us have reached. It's all up from here!
/r/MensRights11/10/21 11:17 PM
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I must agree, forcing someone to keep the baby of their rapist is evil and promotes rape as a viable means of reproduction. Not sure what to compare it to with men, and how that's even relevant, but it's very evil.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 11:07 PM
4

The general theme seems to be double standards.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 10:21 PM
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But we need her to become a mother in order to create more criminals like her!
/r/MensRights24/09/21 11:32 PM
2

I don't understand how someone who genuinely holds those values would date any man. And I think she sucks for not showing any empathy for you, and actively mocking you when you open up. I feel like it's motivated to say that you don't want to be with a person who holds those kinds of values and doesn't support you in the slightest, but actively berates your struggles.
/r/MensRights21/09/21 07:47 AM
1

Would be funny to pretend to hold a rally to DeFuNd WoMeN just to see how much these people would rant whilst ignoring the double standard.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 04:36 PM
1

My biological hypothesis is that the split of a species into males and females is a sort of optimization, allowing the genders to specialize in different important areas. The fact that men cannot give birth probably makes evolutionary sense because reproduction is a costly feature. That however implies, as we all know, that men have other very important features or specializations which women lack.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 12:04 PM
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Interesting. That begs the question, does the same double-standard apply to men?
/r/MensRights08/09/21 06:33 AM
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Well, I'm cool with the "penis in vagina" definition as long as it's considered equally bad when the vagina is put over the penis as when the penis is put in the vagina.
/r/MensRights08/09/21 06:31 AM
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Equality ratio = #of women / #of people
/r/MensRights07/09/21 05:28 PM
5

Working as a mannequin I presume?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/21 10:37 PM
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I call them doublecrossers, took it from the two x sub...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/21 11:12 PM
2

HOW DARE YOU RESPOND TO THIS PUBLIC AD, BEING ONLY 50% MORE GOOD LOOKING THAN ME?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/21 04:01 PM
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In my eyes the current feminism movement acknowledges feelings as valid arguments and encourages using them to alienate and shame anyone questioning their dogmas. Due to their belief in the patriarchy they also support the idea that men deserve punishment for what they have caused womanhood over the years. This blatant dismissal of the humanity of men will of course not win any sympathy from men who actually support equal rights and will certainly not help the cause they claim that they're suppo…
/r/MensRights29/08/21 07:31 AM
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I mean, the expression "boys will be boys" is a bit toxic and sometimes defends bad behavior, or is used as an excuse by a parent to not raise their kids properly. And i also clench my fist sometimes when walking past teenage boy gangs on town, who can be real primal in their behavior. But feminism is approaching the problem is all the wrong ways. Instead of embracing men as fellow humans and allowing them to develop other sides of their personalities, they alienate them even more and stick them…
/r/MensRights28/08/21 11:27 PM
1

I think it's good that we're seeing this. Once we're at the "men on their backs moaning and caressing themselves" level in ads and movies, there is no denying that the pendulum swung too far.
/r/MensRights23/08/21 10:30 AM
3

Thanks for sharing. Regarding what you say about left wing, I'm from Sweden and here there's a lot of "socially accepted opinion" thinking going on here. This phenomenon bears a close resemblance to cancel culture in the sense that any opposing view automatically gets labeled as something malicious or ignorant, and the factual arguments are seldom heard or adressed. It's very totalitarian. The ironic part is that the opinion sways wildly, so it's not about enforcing a certain doctrine, but large…
/r/MensRights22/08/21 05:39 PM
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Eh, no? I find it borderline offensive that you say that you would believe all men regardless. There are proper rapists out there. What we need is unbiased due process and punishments for false accusations.
/r/MensRights18/08/21 10:34 AM
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Freedom of speaking until you said something which can and will be used against you in the court of feminism
/r/MensRights16/08/21 09:47 PM
1

Some might lie to reproduce if they are unidentified though. Not very likely, but might happen.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:42 PM
1

It's logical - banning men from using any of the biological advantages they have over women is good. We should call those biological weapons. /s
/r/MensRights30/07/21 06:17 PM
9

How hard can it be to grok? If a woman is wet, it doesn't mean that she consents either.
/r/MensRights29/07/21 01:52 PM
3

If you don't mind me asking, how is one supposed to afford that? Is that a sum based on your incomes, or arbitrary?
/r/MensRights29/07/21 07:51 AM
1

To me it sounds like the decision was well-grounded at the time, and my reflections based on what you write is that you don't mention any future plans of having kids. Perhaps you could turn this around by focusing more on future kids and endeavors than seeing this as a permanently missed opportunity? If not, I would think hard about if there was something about your wifes behavior around that time that made you doubt her suitability as a mother, and address those concerns in whatever way possibl…
/r/MensRights25/07/21 08:07 AM
2

I understand that aspect of the role. But the role is usually much broader in practice. If there is an expectation to be available 24/7, which is usually the case in my limited experience, that's a real problem. The problem with some aspects of corporate structure is that their set in law and perpetuated by a lot of institutions. People have come up with alternative ways of working that doesn't put that much stress on a single person. I think we need to rethink these structures, and some other a…
/r/MensRights22/07/21 06:33 PM
0

The CEO role is problematic as it stands today. I've had CEOs in my family and they had no life whatsoever due to the enormous workload and pressure put on a single person. I think we should do something about the whole concept.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 04:45 PM
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