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everyone knows "incel" in this case is the community shouting kill all stacies memes, not all virgins or all loners. If it doesn't apply to you, then you're not who I'm discussing. If you don't know what incel culture is, then you probably wouldn't identify as an incel online. Incel sub reddits do glorify Elliot Rodgers for ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 06:15 AM
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No one thinks all incels are mass shooters. But being an "incel" is definitely unhealthy and dangerous to their mental health. Not every lonely guy or a virgin is an incel. We all know what an incel is and their viewpoints are. They are obsessed with their sexual insecurities and shortcomings and cope by posting hateful things about women. Devaluing, degrading, dehumanizing women. I see incel lite comments here all the time. That attitude, that misogyny in general is dangerous to themselves and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:10 PM
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African Americans aren't third world country, they're Americans. African immigrants on the other hand boast greater education level than people born in the U.S. and perform similarly as other immigrant groups such as Asian Americans which correlates to the higher standards and requirements to immigrate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 12:56 PM
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And you don't see why it's a farcical point that is never entertained let alone mentioned in any rational discussion about politics or society at large. bro we get your point. no need to repeat what your personal fantasy so many times. that's all it is, a personal fantasy. It's pretty cute actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 03:02 AM
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Where in the real life in the developed world do you see children starving to death? No one's asking you to personally care or donate to children. Society at large has safety nets and support for them for a reason. And it's not going away anytime soon. You understand this at the very least no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:57 AM
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and do you see why such libertarian ideas belong on fantasies of edgy kids online and not entered in any legitimate discussion in politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:36 AM
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What are third worlders population of Americans? What does that even mean? Do you think Sudan and Uzbekesitan immigrants are responsible for American state of things?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:50 PM
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yawn. So you want more government administration to monitor how each of those fund is being spent? And yes the welfare exists to support the child. be sure to shake your fist at a next government building before screaming muh taxes!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:44 PM
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How are we supposed to do that? Legalize drugs Sure, not wasting money to lock up pot users for years is a start. How about you look for a material, practical change instead of spouting platitudes and wishes? How about understanding the link between crime, state, and poverty instead of just saying oh golly why arent people better. Compare America's crime and prison statistics with the rest of the world. It's ineffective and revolting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:11 PM
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It's not acceptable behavior? Most people don't like it either too. Sorry it happens often for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:04 PM
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lol what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:46 PM
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> Then why would you schedule it in the first place? Plans change. Something came up. They found better plans. They are not feeling well. etc etc But i don't disagree with you. You're right, it's not a decent thing to do. Just take as a sign that they don't value your time and are not interested in you enough to follow through. If this is how you're treated by a significant other or close friends then I would seriously have a discussion with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:42 PM
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They are responsible for that decision. They have to raise the child. The single mothers are often stuck has the primary caretaker of the child, much more so than the fathers of children born out of wedlock. If you mean society should cut financial safety net for the child (the money is for the child's need you understand that at the very least? It's not free gift coupons at Louis Vuitton for women. Able bodied women do not get welfare for just being women ) then its just not a practical answer.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:33 PM
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Lets not pretend society has replaced parents and we only have single mothers on food stamps walking about. There are plenty of relationships with a child. There are plenty of incentives for marriages and families, including legal financial reasons. The single mother is associated with poverty. If you look at college educated, high earning demographics the majority go on to marry and have children. They don't suddenly throw away their marriage for food stamps or w/e you think is happening. Forci…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:22 PM
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Yes, clearly imprisoning shitload of the population and treating them like subhuman isn't helping. I'm not convinced that food stamps are so attractive that women are lining up to be single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:12 PM
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> Time is our most precious commodity and only a selfish child wastes another person's time Since time is so valuable wouldn't it be practical for them to cancel on plans that they no longer deem worth it to them? It's dating. Would you really want to go on a date with someone who do not want to be there but is doing out of some moral obligation of duty and promise? What would theredpill say to men who have many plates? Devote each time, follow up on every plan , be considerate of the each of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:07 PM
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do you think being a single mother on food stamps is an attractive position? If you want to reduce single mothers, why not look at somewhere where you can actually make a dent. The American prison industrial complex incarcerates so many men, more than rest of the world combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:50 PM
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So its just another sub that insults women to make its readers feel better like incels or mgtow with a little advice sprinkled in like lift weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:38 PM
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So wheres the confusion? Why is it some secret that fitness is important, just because some women you polled said something contrary ? My point was there's more source of knowing things then just asking women ( not to mention many women do say they like tall, athletic guys with abs) . that's like saying but my mom said looks dont matter! Well, thats your fault for being that clueless to every other societal message that says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:16 PM
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on a serious note, i can point to /r/fitness, any popular stars, hot guys on instagram, any college campus that will have a gym filled with people. sure, it may not be 100% crystal clear and obvious, but the evidence is out there for most of us to figure out by the time we're in middle school that athletic kids are more popular than skinnyfat nerds. yeah i'm making fun of the "late" bloomers but I still think it's great that they discover on internet messsage boards in their twenties. better lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 02:32 PM
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links to interesting threads?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 01:51 PM
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It happens all the time. Women are people, don't just focus on young cute college girls. Literally go outside and see positive interaction between both genders all the time. If you're arguing girls are more receptive to attractive strangers approaching them over unattractive ones, there's no argument from me. But you're claiming women hate unattractive men period and do not see them as people, which is false by every observation. Any organization, church, institution, company, etc have plethora …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:52 AM
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I don't deny your experiences are real. But you're overexaggerating and projecting your frustrations. Women have positive interactions with men who aren't attractive all the time. You do know lesbians exist yes? Many have male friends too. The fact you personally never had positive interactions with women or had female friends say more about you, than a blanket statement such as women hate men they're not attracted to. You never seen an ugly guy with female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:43 AM
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So a girl in your class wasn't friendly to you, so all women hate all men they're unattracted to? You're still equating interactions from strangers to make the leap to claim all women hate all men they're unattracted to. You never had a female friend or a friendly female teacher? Even then, you never made small talk with a female neighbor? Do you think middle age and elderly women also "hate" you for not being Chad? Do you think they even care?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:37 AM
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When you go out in society you interact with men/women of all backgrounds. Women not finding many men sexually attractive does not mean they detest men. There are male teachers, professors, co-workers, bosses, friends, neighbors everywhere from all age brackets. Your average women has friendly interactions with men from these groups all the time. Perhaps you're confusing women's contempt for unwanted sexual advances as the same as disgust for all men and not seeing them as human.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:31 AM
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But you can perceive their personality which is based on that brain structure. What does that mean? I thought gender isn't a personality. Are masculine women, now men? In we future we can probably detect gender identity with a much higher accuracy The differences in brain between genders is overstated. There is no brain sex. Besides, gender identity is about personal feelings, not up to a scientist. You think there is scientific basis for genderqueer, agender, genderfluid too? Would you be okay …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:32 AM
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lol then you're not concerned for their happiness at all, you just want to express your fantasy of controlling women and their ability to make choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 10:09 PM
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they have to gauge and figure out the preferences of each women that they would like to date Because there are many women out there that would rather be treated like they are men, rather than women. Great! You even said women have different preferences in regards to gender roles and treatment. Why not treat your partner, the way they want to be treated? Some can enjoy a conservative traditional style, others can do otherwise as they want. Sure it's "simpler" if you assume everyone is exactly the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:44 PM
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I am concerned about the happiness of women. Maybe then let them sort it out on their own? Or do you honestly think they would prefer some random stranger dictating who they're allowed to date/sleep with? Because he totally knows better about their happiness and their dating lives better?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:31 PM
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Buddy, you have to provide any sort of evidence that she isn't that attractive besides your personal opinion that I've stressed that no one cares about. You're right instagram follower number isn't objective measure, but it is a lot better sign than anything you posted. Landwhales with larges of followers tell me, lots of people do find them attractive, even if I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 02:06 AM
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I don't care that you don't find her to be that attractive. There are clear signs that she is conventionally attractive and successful, many men do find her attractive. Her modeling career, her 150k instagram followers offer better ideas about her attractiveness and status, than anything you provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 01:51 AM
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You've said she's not a model. I proved you wrong that she is in fact a model. That's literally her job description. I didn't say she has to please every internet penis in the planet. It's not just the fact she has lots of instagram supporters, you're completely disavowing others facts such as she stars in rap videos and dated famous celebrities. I'm sure you banged hundreds of 10/10 supermodels. And you also graduated from top of class in navy seals and have 502 confirmed kills. Like every othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 01:28 AM
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Except for the part she's actually a conventionally model, dates famous rappers, etc . The girl you posted is a model, she's a plus size model and has modeled for clothing companies for plus sized women. That's literally what modeling is, not whether or not you personally find her attractive. I don't even get your point. What do you get from devaluing her? Do you think average guys should be able to get with girls that look like her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 01:13 AM
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are you retarded? Where do you think you find photos of girls like her? She's literally an instagram model with 100k+ followers. https://www.instagram.com/izabelag4/?hl=en
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 12:28 AM
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lol of course your average guys won't be pulling models like that consistently for casual sex no less. No wonder your discussion about average guys ability to have casual sex is completely off base. when people say, it's easy for many guys to get laid, they're not talking about instagram models.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 11:49 PM
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There are many guys who can get laid. There are many guys who can't. What's the point of arguing who is more represented? It depends on your social group. It comes down to individual choices / attractiveness anyways. Something like 95% have had sex by the time they're 25 anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 05:35 AM
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"Desiring men of higher social desirability than themselves" What does that even mean? Women and men have different SMV and social desirability, that's not comparable. Most attractive young girls are far more socially desirable and popular than male counterparts. Is every guy who had a crush on a popular girl hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:26 PM
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Which is argued many times all over with different perspectives... So read those posts where people argue. I don't understand what one sentence answer you're looking for that encapsulates dating, attraction, sexual dimorphism, gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 04:32 PM
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There are specific stances that are debated all the time. What exactly are you looking for here? Belief about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 04:24 PM
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Answer mine. Why do so many don't, why do guys like you get hang up on the ones that do and and outwardly blame them for your failure because some feel good dating blog that you read that you chose to take as the gospel of truth and ignored every other aspect in society that says looks do matter? If you were in your mid 20s and realized omg looks matter?! You might be a little slow. Don't be too offended though, that's just how some of us are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:11 PM
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Why do so many say that they do matter? Why do girls tell me that they like my looks, arms, etc, they find me cute? Your mother probably lied to coddle your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:03 PM
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I'm saying physical attraction existing is common sense. Some people, who needed redpill (not you, but many others) lack this. How hard is it to understand this point? The fact some women and men at some point claimed otherwise doesn't change this. Plenty of women do acknowledge looks mattering and profess to physical features they're attracted to all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:19 AM
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I'm saying by the time most kids are in middle school they can see clearly that good looking, athletic boys are more popular. Yes, it is common sense to learn from how things operate right in front of your eyes. you can cite all the red pillers who never realized this but instead point at some shitty feminist blog or disney movie or say but my mom said looks dont matter! and yes, it might be embarrassing to admit, but these people are socially slow and lacked a lot of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:50 AM
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If you think looks aren't important to a woman or it doesn't matter, you may have never had common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:27 AM
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Yeah basically. The good parts then to be just common sense, don't be a pushover, be confident, work on your fitness. The bad parts are hilarious and absolutely deserve to be made fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 08:06 AM
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That's because there is no bluepill ideology, it just makes fun of TRP. red pill's idea of "beta male" just appeals to worst insecurities of your average TRP reader. They're submissive, out of shape, unattractive, fat/weak, cucked, raises someone else's children accidentally, virgins, lazy, poor, unsuccessful, sad, depressed, etc. TRP says unless you take red pill and become enlightened like us, you are a bluepilled, beta male. If you think those are two options, if you think not being redpilled…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 07:34 AM
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he should lower his standards. he can't find a single person?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:42 PM
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sex slave? Where are all these male sex slaves to women? Are all these men getting laid being forced to against their will and pleasure? in a modern increasingly feminist society, women do not need financial provider because they are able to earn their own income. Maybe it's because I'm still relatively young, but relationships all around me and the ones I've been in never has been about paying for their time. Only time I've seen sugar daddy dynamic is for older men with women way out of their l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 04:55 AM
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No one is surprised that people who get called a misogynist don't like it. They're free to grow more resentful and go on corners of the internet to congregate with similar minds. If someone calls your rant on women misogynistic, that's all there is to it. They don't have to entertain an entire argument, they can say fuck off with your misogyny. If the general public and society don't want to argue with you and instead tell you to bugger off, then how do you expect to change this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 03:59 AM
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You're assuming you are the sole arbitrator of what is and what isn't misogynistic. So you want to ban people for saying something is misogynistic or having different opinion than you? If I say something that I don't believe is to be racist, but someone else thinks it is, it is their right to say so. We don't have to agree on whether it is racist or not, but they certainly have the freedom to say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 03:46 AM
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So you want people who do not want to listen to you in the first place to debate with you? If women don't want to hear what you have to say because they think it's misogynistic, why should they? Why do they have to entertain you? I really don't understand your train of thought here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 03:23 AM
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hey man you're talking to a super alpha movie star right now. Be more respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:20 AM
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Lifting isn't common advice lololol. Yeah that's why /r/fitness has 6.2 million subscribers. That's why every college campus has a giant gym. That's why every movie star is in great shape. I'm glad redpill exists to share the secret that fitness is attractive to all the alpha males who never learned this. Do you actually think most people don't know that muscle is more attractive than fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:19 AM
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I'm saying that an average man who works to improve himself can become above-average. Right which takes a lot of factors far beyond reading articles and rants on TRP. Why should anyone assume and give benefit of the doubt that red piller have succeeded in becoming attractive and above average? So how are people wrong that the people reading these advice are indeed low value men. Why should anyone assume other wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:43 AM
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The average man IS low value though. To be above average and have high value you're in a minority. So why should blue pillers or anyone else assume that a red piller is anything but average? Or are you saying average man can get away with being an asshole and still be seen as attractive. That average red piller fits in YOUR description of "hot, successful, social, skilled, and interesting enough, you can be a complete asshole" You understand I'm not saying all red pillers are neckbeard virgins r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:35 AM
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"Because blue pillers assume TRP men are low-value." Which is true they're not high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:29 AM
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You know there's probably a nice middle ground between how others see TRP and red pillers portray themselves. The average red piller is probably not a neckbeard in a basement furiously theorizing and ranting about women. But he's probably not a dark triad alpha male who can get away with being asshole and women will all swoon over them. He's probably an average dude. You still haven't explained why someone should assume an average red piller is a high SMV alpha male. Just because you guys talk a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:23 AM
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How is TRP any different from what men have been doing forever? Exactly that's my point. Your average red piller out of the 130k subscribers is an average dude with average SMV. The people you describe in your OP is applicable to a very small percentage of the population. The ones you describe as hot, social, successful, interesting. Yes, we all know hot shot investment bankers and football players can get away with being an asshole. Reading TRP doesn't turn you into one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:16 AM
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"Improving themselves" means trying to act like the 'asshole' you described and getting women to swoon over you. Does reading posts in The Red Pill increase your salary by adding a digit, give worldly experiences, or make your genetics change to a 6'2 model? Let's be realistic how much one can improve. The ones who improve the most are sheltered dudes who never realized that being physically fit was attractive, and it's not like they become a 9 from a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:58 PM
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Because blue pillers assume TRP men are low-value Fair assumption though, no? Isn't TRP all about beta, low SMV males who want to mimic the alphas they idealize? You think redditors taking notes on and learning on TRP are already hot, social, successful, interesting to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:42 PM
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That's fair. I'm glad TRP has helped you get a foot through the door. I understand why it's so popular among people like you. But what's the end game here. Are you going to constantly emulate this redpill persona in all aspects? What if you're in a LTR, will you continue to ask yourself what an alpha male would do on the internet, instead of being more comfortable with the self and your partner who TRP treats as the "other"? My only gripe is with the hardcore redpillers who revolve their entire …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:12 AM
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So out of curiosity what percent of the community do you think are benevolent successful alpha men who want to share their knowledge. And what percent are unhappy beta men who want to emulate them because mainstream advice such as "just b yourself" has failed them? How do you separate the two? How do you know the responses to those said questions aren't from other beta males who share same values and worldviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:55 AM
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Well I'm not claiming I'm an alpha male or a beta male cause I'm not 15 or a red piller who is obsessed with those terms. That said, I understand if you never talk to girls before. But do you really need a manual on what personality to put on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:47 AM
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I would imagine successful alpha males to talk about things that interest them. Like a community of stock trading or mountain climbing. You're right, why would they partake in subreddit for about unhappy people trying to emulate and worship them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:39 AM
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So TRP is just a safe space for beta males with similar outlook and political leanings to congregate and talk about their problems. That's completely fine. But why do they try so hard to sound like they're an elite community of alpha males? Why are there so many posts starting with oh my 8/10 FWB texted me this etc. Why does TRP act like "the red pill" is an exclusive, enlightening way of seeing things, when it's just one popular perspective among beta males as you describe. I mean I get that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:26 AM
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