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Do you believe serial monogamy is sustainable over a very long period (say until old age)? Probably, at least as long as you approach it reasonably. By that, I mean that the women you can realistically date at 50 are going to be quite different from the women you could date at 25, unless you happen to be Brad Pitt. Obviously if you become sufficiently infirmed, that may eliminate your dating options entirely, but then most marriages seem to fail the "in sickness and in health" test these days, s…
/r/MensRights07/08/23 04:04 PM
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Maybe, vet the person before you commit and actually get a good relationship. That might be sound advice if divorce were exceedingly rare. When half of all marriages end in divorce, it suggests that "vetting" isn't enough. Indeed, no matter how thoroughly you "vet" a potential partner, there always remains considerable risk. The person does not need to be a "Master of Disguises." People do radically change throughout their life, often in unpredictable ways, for a wide variety of reasons. Even if…
/r/MensRights07/08/23 05:11 AM
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For myself? MGTOW. But I get that some people find that undesirable. So if instead I were giving advice to a friend, I would say that a "forever" girlfriend is fine, so long as you don't commingle finances, maintain separate residences, and don't have kids. Mind you, I think finding a women willing to agree to that sort of arrangement is extremely hard to sustain over time, so in practice the solution in serial monogamy that still adheres to the aforementioned parameters. Following that course w…
/r/MensRights07/08/23 05:04 AM
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and you will be filled with shame. I'm pretty certain I'm not ashamed to earn the scorn of somebody I don't respect, because I don't share your warped, religious values.
/r/MensRights05/08/23 05:59 PM
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"Let's live like our forefathers lived. The child born in the house is your child," Minister of Mineral Development Sarah Opendi said in parliament. Convenient how the party who is certain of their biological connection to the child is all too happy to demand the other party blindly accept allegations of paternity. By the way, how would said forefathers handle discoveries of marital infidelity? I'm guessing it wouldn't be just shrugging it off as unimportant.
/r/MensRights05/08/23 03:13 PM
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Have you heard the sayings it's better to have loved and lost and never loved at all or you fail at 100% of things you don't try. Yes, but simple cliches ought not dictate how one lives their life. Reducing a complex cost-benefit analysis to irrelevance in favor of some quip is a terrible idea. That first expression especially - you can have a committed relationship if you deem it important - without assuming the legal risk of marriage. Personally, I don't make life altering choices on the basis…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 06:28 PM
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I can't fathom choosing it over Alaska if you want frozen wilderness, but to each their own. Enjoy living in that dreadful country, but be sure to avoid cohabitation if you don't want to wind up paying alimony without having ever gotten properly married.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:56 AM
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I think you're correct, but not in the way you intended. That is, I do think quite a lot of women like to caterwaul about abortion "rights," though like you, those crying about it are almost always extremely ignorant of law, be it in regards to the law pre-Roe, what Roe did, what Casey did, what Dobbs did, and what the various post-Dobbs laws are at a state level.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:54 AM
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Buddy, there aren't any women around to pat you on the head for being a good ally. You don't need to be a pathetic little puppy decrying men to earn approval.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:47 AM
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Ummmm you do realize that would crush a country. Too bad. I didn't write the laws, but I am subject to them. That means making choices to minimize the harm the system can subject me to, which means not marrying or having kids. If a nation is worried about population collapse, then it can fix the fucked up laws that make starting a family an unreasonable risk. Here's a better idea, marry a normal girl with a big heart not a big rack By definition, most people who marry wind up marrying a "normal"…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:42 AM
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Generally speaking, countries whose citizenship is remotely desirable are not going to give citizenship to somebody looking to evade court orders or avoid satisfaction of a debt. That is true even of high earners. Owing alimony and/or child support that you're current on won't typically be a bar, but the countries not bothered by that tend to also be willing to enforce said support obligations against you, and are typically bound to do so via mutual treaty with the US. Given the information need…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:38 AM
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Worse than the US by far. In the US, common law marriage is functionally dead. A few states retain it, and requirements vary, but in all of them it requires the couple to hold themselves out as married (among other factors) to apply. So there is no accidental common law marriage. In Canada, by contrast, living with your partner for a fairly short period of time - it varies by province, but the norm is a year - creates a common law marriage, and with it, all the nightmares of divorce, terms of wh…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:34 AM
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Yah you nead many years of preparation to get new citizenship but fuck it. It worth it It's more accurate to say that he would have zero success in obtaining new citizenship as a workaround, and so his only option would be to be an illegal immigrant living off the grid.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:22 AM
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don’t understand why rich men don’t just have kids via surrogates This area of law varies radically by jurisdiction, but is often nightmarish, and unsurprisingly doesn't tend to protect the rights of men. It can wind up creating circumstances as bad or worse than traditional custody disputes following a divorce.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:20 AM
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That's fair, though do note that generally speaking, you cannot renounce citizenship without either already possessing citizenship or in tandem with obtaining new citizenship, because the US is party to international conventions on statelessness. And outside of certain programs that are essentially purchasing citizenship, the process is unlikely to be fast enough to be workable. So something like Vanuatu might work, but he'd need $130k minimum. To the degree his "family is pretty well off" per t…
/r/MensRights31/07/23 11:12 AM
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If he moves now, he should avoid all that. Not really. Passports are valid for 10 years, and you generally need at least six months on them to use them for visa or travel purposes. So even if he had a brand new passport, he'd need to renew it when the kid is 10, which becomes a problem for a man who owes a decade in back child support. The only way it works is if he legally enters a country and then just disappears somewhere that doesn't properly enforce immigration laws. Even then, he'd need to…
/r/MensRights31/07/23 03:00 AM
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Move to ANYWHERE that is not those countries and you should be fine. It's significantly more complicated than that. Countries have these inconvenient things called immigration laws. Unless he has non-US citizenship, he'll need visas, and those visas will be tied to his US passport, which will eventually expire, and which he won't be able to renew if he's evading court-ordered child support.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 01:55 AM
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I think you have an obligation to your child. Curiously, he didn't ask whether some random asshole thinks he has an obligation or not, only how he could go about mitigating the adverse circumstances in which he finds himself.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 01:51 AM
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Once the world figures out that China is sitting on the largest untapped resource in the world (unmarried and great women who no one wants because their culture has taught them not to desire such women), China will have a population growth problem once again. Even if we suppose you are correct about the value of these older Chinese women, your theory only works if (1) China turns away from its anti-foreigner policies and begins specifically encouraging mass immigration by foreign men into China,…
/r/MensRights31/07/23 01:00 AM
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maybe go overseas or something to find a wife I dunno. Or, the far more obvious and easy option...don't get married ever.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:48 AM
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I’m the fool Wow, you managed to finally state something accurate. Good work!
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:12 AM
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This list takes a bad point and makes it worse. Seriously, Megan Rapinoe deserves credit for...being worse at soccer than teenage boys? Frida Kahlo is important for making self-portraits less impressive than those of Rembrandt, Picasso, Dali, and Rockwell? Amelia Earhart merits commendation for doing something Charles Lindbergh did five years earlier just because she had different genitals?
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:09 AM
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women are at the mercy of our male dominated society. NPC-caliber thinking.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:03 AM
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fair prenups are enforceable In theory, sure. In practice though, there are two problems. Namely: Judges have broad discretion to invalidate prenups. They often exercise this in abusive ways. But since divorces are handled by family courts, you don't enjoy the same protections of traditional civil litigation, and you are at the mercy of a pool of judges known to be especially bad and biased. The world's best prenup still has one fatal flaw: it cannot in any way cover custody or child support. Th…
/r/MensRights30/07/23 11:58 AM
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Rather than avoiding marriage, I would encourage men to get married on your terms, My terms involve...not marrying, because unlike you, I actually understand our legal system, and therefore avoid inviting it into my personal life.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 11:53 AM
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SEE I FUCKING KNEW IT. DAMMIT QUEBEC. I don't want to learn French but it's for sure tempting now. You could just...not cohabitate, and thus stay within a less terrible part of Canada (though, as a multi-national with Canadian citizenship, I'm glad as hell to not have to live there).
/r/MensRights30/07/23 11:48 AM
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Before I married a real woman...you know, from not here... I hope you didn't bring her back "to here," because the divorce laws don't magically change when bringing back your foreign-born wife. The only context in which going abroad to marry is maybe a reasonable option is the Philippines...assuming you then continue living there, because they effectively do not have divorce. There is annulment, but unless your bride is wealthy or well connected, in which case she wouldn't be marrying some Ameri…
/r/MensRights30/07/23 11:46 AM
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But what woman plans on doing those things? More than we are probably supposed to acknowledge, lest we be called misogynists, though this question illustrates why marriage should always be a non-starter. It isn't that most, let alone all, women enter marriage with predatory intentions. But the law, whether as written or as applied (depending upon jurisdiction) is so absurdly biased against men, and divorce is so overwhelmingly common (and damn near always initiated by women), that the risk is un…
/r/MensRights30/07/23 11:39 AM
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'I want to change the world,' she said. 'I'm asking you to help me accomplish my dreams. I'm not a threat to society, but an asset for the future.' Bullshit.
/r/MensRights27/07/23 05:17 PM
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That you do not want to pay your share of taxes is not mine either. Enlighten us, what is a fair share and who determines it?
/r/MensRights20/07/23 09:45 PM
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helpful parts Those exist?
/r/MensRights20/07/23 09:43 PM
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Or we could accept that not everything in life is or needs to be meticulously worded, such that the two statements you offered as examples should be treated as being functional equivalents unless there are special circumstances like actual physical abuse to suggest the former is "controlling" rather than just a shorter version of the latter statement.
/r/MensRights10/07/23 02:22 AM
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How many case examples would you like me to provide - since there are thousands that result in conviction annually - before you will admit you are wrong How about an even 10?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 05:00 AM
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Yes. Since criminal convictions are a matter of public record, please validate your claim by providing some cases to validate your claim. My guess is that you are intent on dissuading men from legal recourse. And my guess is that whatever pretense you provide, you're an inept loser trying to hustle for clients you can dupe into paying you fees for fruitless legal actions.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 02:05 AM
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Penal Code section 653.2 of California So let's look at this. Every person who, with intent to place another person in reasonable fear for his or her safety Good luck establishing that intent given the ostensible purpose of the group. for the purpose of imminently causing that other person unwanted physical contact, injury, or harassment The word "imminently" is pretty damn important, as much like with the Brandenburg test, there is a temporal element to the actual or intended harm that would be…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 11:40 PM
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This is not true and depends on the state the action occurred in. Okay, please provide a single statute that outlaws doxing. And again, make sure it is an actual doxing ban, not something like a HIPAA protection I referenced above. you shouldn't give legal counsel unless this is year area of practice. Thanks for your useless input, but I plainly stated that this post was "not legal advice." As you may notice from lawtube, law twitter, etc., lawyers analyzing legal claims based off of a general u…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 09:15 PM
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They can and im sure will dismiss the staff, but facebook will still be found guilty. Are you the person behind this PRLog submission (not just the reddit post)? Because your grasp of the law is similarly lacking. You are, like the drafter of that release, confusing how you'd like the law to work, with how it actually works.
/r/MensRights05/06/23 10:58 PM
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I hate to rain on anybody's parade, but this has zero legal merit, and will go nowhere. The best case scenario is that this is an endeavor of a man with zero grasp of the law, who has yet to try and find legal representation, and thus does not know the futility of his proposal. The worst case scenario is that this is a honeypot effort, insofar as this group has no website and their Whois records are privacy protected, meaning we have no clue who is actually soliciting your information. I'm going…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 12:46 AM
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and none if you lean left. Perhaps that ought to clue you into the fact that leftism is detrimental nonsense and lead you to re-evaluate your politics.
/r/MensRights10/05/23 04:03 PM
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With the caveat that this is not legal advice, and that family law varies by jurisdiction... In most states, premarital assets are, in theory, non-marital assets not subject to division. However, people can and do fuck that up by investing marital assets into pre-marital assets (e.g. using shared funds to renovate a home). Also, appreciation of certain assets during a marriage may be shared, and if the growth is comingled in a way that makes it hard to separate from the premarital asset (e.g. ce…
/r/MensRights23/04/23 04:10 AM
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You don't know what you're talking about. Contrary to your assertion, what he described is very possible. You can have your marital home owned by a trust whose beneficiary is your children. If the spouses are co-Trustees not empowered to act unilaterally, the home cannot be liquidated or transferred by your now-ex. There are however a couple of caveats. First is that this is only an option if you set it up well ahead of any divorce that is going to be acrimonious. Second is that it would not pre…
/r/MensRights23/04/23 01:40 AM
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because all her boyfriends did some particularly nasty stuff to me. The thing you hopefully took away from this is that the common denominator is your mother. She keeps picking shit partners at a rate that far outstrips random chance. When people keep picking the same sort of dysfunctional relationship, it evidences a failure to address their own personal issues, such that they stay trapped in a repetitive cycle.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 04:43 PM
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It is true. Spain, until recently, was 13. Many countries in Europe set it lower than you'd be accustomed to in the US or Canada.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 04:14 PM
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While true, this would nonetheless be CP under Italian law.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 04:13 PM
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It isn't legal. But that doesn't mean anything until somebody with standing successfully challenges the law in court, and possibly goes through multiple layers of appeal. EDIT. Per the comments, this appears limited to being certified as a diverse nonprofit, which is material in winning certain contracts. For now that remains legal. Unless SCOTUS hands down an unexpectedly broad decision in their affirmative action case relating to Harvard and UNC, expect that to remain legal for the time being.…
/r/MensRights22/04/23 03:42 AM
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You're in the wrong decade if you think the ACLU has any interest in defending the civil rights of white men.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 03:41 AM
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Being indoctrinated into something stupid does not oblige you to remain willfully ignorant.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 03:23 AM
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I still don't know if I should have offered her a lift or not. Ignoring her was the only responsible course of action. Don't doubt yourself from letting awareness of reality override your protective instincts.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 10:33 PM
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It’s disgusting to think people can leave their partner because of illness alone. If we're talking about married couples, sure. When it comes to just dating, I'm hard pressed to take issue with it, especially if the relationship were relatively newer or otherwise less serious.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 10:30 PM
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I think it would be a rare thing, in terms of genuine, selfless advocacy. Almost without exception, the women who are genuinely passionate on this topic became so after seeing a father/brother/son/husband/boyfriend get railroaded by the family courts or a false rape accusation or bullshit HR complaint that derailed their career.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 03:23 AM
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Of course. Now, plenty who ostensibly started out in that camp proved, unsurprisingly, to be grifters who briefly played in the space to gain notoriety and financial support (see: Lauren Southern, Sydney Watson). But advocating for legal and institutional reforms that are anti-male can be done by anybody.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 03:22 AM
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Whatever the merits of that generally, I doubt it would achieve much in this specific case. The smart money is on this dreadful girl being raised by a disinterested and inept single mother who shirks her parental responsibilities, meaning that absent the intervention of the legal system, the girl will go on being a delinquent thug.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 12:03 AM
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You seem butthurt. I guess your first cruising experience was a rough one.
/r/MensRights06/04/23 02:17 AM
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I’m a feminist We could tell. who wanted to learn about real men’s rights Nobody believes you.
/r/MensRights06/04/23 01:50 AM
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Let's pretend that you had a valid gripe and weren't just a virtue signalling ass. Even so, what you expect the consequence to be of reddit having banned "misogynistic" subs like MGTOW and TRP? Necessarily, participants in said communities will migrate to adjacent communities that thus far have not been eliminated by the thought police admins. So the dismissive asses who rally behind censorship don't ever actually achieve your goals, but instead "radicalize" more mainstream communities by funnel…
/r/MensRights06/04/23 01:48 AM
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Literally
/r/MensRights06/04/23 01:39 AM
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One of those guilty pleasures I have is watching those gym videos of women making thirst trap videos and then needing help, only to be ignored by men lest said men be falsely accused of being predatory creeps. It is some very welcome comeuppance.
/r/MensRights06/04/23 01:28 AM
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I can. But I also remember the story of Kenan Basic, who was found guilty and sent to jail on a false rape accusation after he spent two hours helping a woman fix her car. The only thing that eventually saved him was that Australia being a bit of a police state, he was in view of CCTV cameras that proved he did nothing remotely wrong. Maybe you care to assume tremendous risk for zero personal reward, but many of us are not so inclined. So no, I won't help a woman in distress, unless that woman i…
/r/MensRights06/04/23 01:26 AM
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.. and I know FB will now be held as enabling defamation and abuse for not shutting this group down Whether they should be or not, what you "know" is plainly wrong, at least with respect to the US, where a plurality (if not a majority) of people reading this are from.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 10:54 PM
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Thankfully I’m getting married in 2 months though. That seems certain to be a massive mistake given the divorce rate and other legal risks. But it's your life to potentially ruin. Best of luck.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 01:50 PM
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"I cannot wait until I have a daughter..." But society can, because you just know this toxic shrew is going to spawn outside of a stable marriage, and inculcate her daughter in all of the misery and misandry that will only build from years of self-inflicted misery when her entitlement and bitterness put men off from having anything to do with her outside of the bedroom.
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/23 12:00 AM
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So why would a man want to destroy the rights of women when these same men also think that they are perfectly capable of becoming women? Two things: They are not actually anti-rights. That is an unhinged leftist framing. These men are simply opposed to feminism, which is inherently hostile to men (what they are), and is often hostile to "transwomen" (what they'd become under your advice). Even recognizing the absurdity of a shift towards accepting all self-identification and calling biological m…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 10:48 AM
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What generally irks me is these things like women only scholarships which are supposedly supposed to address past discrimination but it makes no sense because the women who were supposedly discriminated against in the past aren't going to college anymore. The first time I learned about the now famous race grifter Ibram X. Kendi, I thought he must be a troll, because he said "The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present d…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 10:43 AM
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Even if there is good, luck collecting. Yes, verbal agreements are technically enforceable in most places, but that assumes you can prove it, and have the means to get a judgement and then to collect on said judgement. And all that presumes that whatever was promised meets the legal standard of a contract rather than a gratuitous promise, the latter of which is not legally enforceable except to the degree one can attain promissory estoppel resulting from detrimental reliance. Again, good luck ma…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 03:02 AM
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It's blatant sexism / misinformation, how is that allowed That should be allowed on reddit. Why would you want the cretins who run this platform micromanaging speech? The problem isn't that the speech in question is allowed, but that so much speech is actively disallowed on this ever-worsening platform.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:07 PM
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I don't want to come down too harshly on you given your age, but how is this even mildly surprising? This has been the case for well over a decade, and there are tons of resources online documenting the problem. If you know enough to come to this subreddit, I have trouble grasping how you didn't know to expect this.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:18 PM
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Feminism doesn't have to mean anti-men. It does. Literally from its inception, the earliest feminist activists hated men. From the first wave, feminism has been premised upon granting women equal or superior rights, without accordant responsibilities. The rhetoric and focal points change with each wave, but the nature of feminism does not.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 08:11 PM
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Literally nobody is saying adults should be denied the freedom of choice. But the OP is about the procedure being carried out on infants, who necessarily don't have choice. So the only right that is actually attacked at present is the right of bodily autonomy and bodily integrity for newly born males.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 12:31 AM
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There are faith decisions that come into this as well There aren't, at least in the context of the West. Christianity does not require or even encourage the practice, which is why it is much rarer in Europe than the US. Judaism theoretically requires it, however Halacha (Jewish religious law) also requires adherence to the laws of the country over Halacha when the two are in conflict, except if the law requires you to commit idol worship, kill another Jew, or commit a sex crime (homosexuality, a…
/r/MensRights23/07/22 12:29 AM
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Yes, it is absolutely a right for ADULTS to make that choice for themselves. Imposing it on infants is a denial of basic rights. I have yet to encounter a single person in favor of banning adult men from being circumcised. So you're making a nonsense point.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 12:26 AM
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I'd stand in front of my family whatever the danger. That is YOUR CHOICE, and one you are making with respect to YOUR FAMILY. It does not follow from that that somebody else's son is less valuable than their daughter. And by the way, it is exceedingly easy to be fine with an unfair draft prospect after you've aged out of it.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:59 PM
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So a group describes itself explicitly as feminist, and you're then banned for stating that feminism is toxic, and this surprises you? In any event, the rules here allow you to vent, but given that you also in the sub in question said that "Mra is garbage," you have and deserve zero sympathy. I'm not sure why you're shocked that a leftist space is anti-male, given that the most virulently anti-male rhetoric reliably comes from the left. If that's the space in which you choose to exist, you'll ha…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 08:23 PM
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Op said the prosecutor admitted to only prosecuting because he was a man. Not because of the facts of the case. I’m going off that. That is a clear bias that is reprehensible. Even if we take for granted that this is what the prosecutor said, that he said nothing else to clarify or elucidate it, that the OP properly understood him, and that the OP properly relays the nature of the comment, this changes essentially nothing. It is prosecutorial misconduct if there is not a valid legal basis to cha…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 02:16 PM
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advocate for the self-regulation of the system. You can advocate for whatever you want. But when you advocate for people to report non-reportable conduct, and you do so without telling them that zero redress is available through this mechanism, you aren't promoting anything useful to anybody. You're just encouraging people to waste their time to make you feel better.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:20 PM
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Make a separate claim against the judge. This is stupid advice. A judge being honest - pointing out that prosecutors have broad discretion, that their bad conduct rarely rises to the level of "prosecutorial misconduct," and that bar associations rarely discipline prosecutors - is not grounds for a complaint. So sure, one could be filed against him, but it'd be dismissed immediately, even faster than the minute or so spent reviewing a complaint against the prosecutor. People like you have far mor…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:20 AM
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My question, is how do I get my sister to stop being sexist/misandry towards me just for being me? You don't. I don't know what stage of life you're at, though I assume you're perhaps still a teen living with your parents and sister? If so, the solution is to have as little contact as possible. When you're an independent adult, upgrade that to going no contact. You owe her nothing based on shared parentage, and cannot force her to stop being a bitch.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 10:54 PM
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I would contend that it is a men's rights issue, albeit one specific to Latvia. Invariably, any discussion of laws will necessarily be material only to the country where they are in force (e.g. 498A in India, Title IX in the US). They are likely to be "of interest" to men not directly impacted, but they presumably are not going to inspire transcontinental activism.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:19 AM
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You have to love that a few of the talking heads on the left are trying to suggest she run again in 2024. Even if you're the staunchest of Democrats, how can you not utterly detest HRC?
/r/MensRights07/07/22 11:20 PM
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Don't get me wrong, the Latvian law is bullshit, but saying it's everyone else's job to be outraged is silly. Is it? I'd contend that it is very specifically the job of Latvians to be outraged, insofar as they are both the impacted population, as well as the population capable of redress through voting, protests, or other actions. I certainly don't approve of this outrage, but as an American living in America who will literally never set foot on Latvian soil, why is it my fight?
/r/MensRights07/07/22 11:15 PM
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It isn't legal to take a young man's bodily autonomy just because he "seems dangerous" but that has to be considered at this point. This tweet seems pretty dangerous. Maybe we should take Scott's bodily autonomy from him.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 11:10 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 10:07 PM
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hate speech against men should be allowed by law It should be, just not for the reasons they offer. Rather, all "hate speech" should be legal, because criminalizing mere words is unconscionable.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 02:51 PM
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sure, tell that to the person you just insulted who’s about to come over and beat your ass, see if they give a darn. They might care when they're in jail, because being offended is not a license for violence. There’s a large number of ppl we see daily off and of the intranet that say offensive things then hiding behind the law. Yet when something is said to them, it’s a HUGE problem. Right, the solution is to tell them to fuck off and ignore their demands and crybullying, not to engage in thugge…
/r/MensRights23/05/22 06:42 PM
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I would pressure the police to conduct a lie detector test on her and on yourself and also demand a body language expert be present whilst you get questioned and she gets questioned and each of you recount your version of events. This advice is thankfully detached from reality. I say thankfully because even accepting the OP's account as 100% true, we have to consider how what you're advocating for would apply in other contexts, and it would be a horrible infringement on due process rights for th…
/r/MensRights22/05/22 11:36 PM
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You’re either pro choice or you’re not, there is no in between Just because you say it doesn't make it so. Most "pro-choice" individuals favor at least some restrictions on abortion. Unrestricted abortion until successful live birth in not a popular position. In any event, I've made my position pretty clear, even if you lack the capacity to grasp it. and you’re delusional to think that anyone except the person who is going to birth the child should get any say in it at all. I never said that. Cl…
/r/MensRights22/05/22 02:05 AM
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You’re not pro life I never said I was. you’re pro control over women. No, I'm in favor of equality. I don't believe women deserve extra rights by virtue of being women. Jfc if we could just fight to allow men to opt out of fatherhood and child support this wouldn’t be a problem. I'd love to create a paper abortion right for men. There's roughly a 0% chance of that happening at present, and an extremely slim chance of it happening in tandem with a "restoration" of the "abortion rights" women cla…
/r/MensRights22/05/22 01:51 AM
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Every man should insist on a paternity test, even if you’re married. Important note: this is actually illegal in certain countries, such as France. (To be clear: a judge can order it as part of proceedings in France, but a father cannot merely have one of his own accord.) And if you circumvent the law there and have a test sent abroad to Switzerland (relatively common), good luck getting it admitted to a court, or convincing a judge that this "illegal" test provides a valid basis for the court t…
/r/MensRights22/05/22 01:03 AM
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Extremely frequently. If you are married, the default legal presumption is that you are the father and owe support following a divorce. You can contest paternity with DNA evidence, but if you have assumed a fatherly role for a sufficient period of time (the standard varies by jurisdiction), you are often treated as the father going forward, DNA evidence be damned, and will be compelled to pay child support. Outside of marriage it works slightly differently, but if you sign the birth certificate …
/r/MensRights22/05/22 01:00 AM
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Separation of the couple had already occurred before conception. That is an entirely different matter, that even somebody with an IQ of 70 ought to realize is not comparable to what is being discussed, and has no informative value.
/r/MensRights22/05/22 12:56 AM
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Well, you could take the advice so often dished out in women's direction and keep it in your pants, pal So, if consent to sex is consent to paternity, then it seems only fair that it should likewise be consent to maternity. Your attitude, and the need to obtain parity in rights that has been lacking for decades, is why I support prohibiting abortion except to save the life of the mother.
/r/MensRights22/05/22 12:52 AM
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She quotes another bigot who claims, without merit, that 'Restorative Justice' (ie, not putting Men in jail, asking for the truth, allowing people to better themselves, or victims to heal instead of waiting for a police state to rise up and save them from Men) is a dangerous idea. "Restorative justice" is absolutely insane. Respecting things like due process rights and a functioning bail system, both of which she objects to, does not logically go hand in hand with a decarceral system. By all mea…
/r/MensRights19/05/22 06:19 AM
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He'll win the case I wouldn't bank on that, since VA requires unanimity in these sort of civil suits, so you only need one moron to derail a win. Unquestionably he has won in the public opinion war. And there is zero chance that Turd's countersuit succeeds. But I think there is a fairly large chance he loses because the last juror cannot be won over.
/r/MensRights19/05/22 01:38 AM
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Maybe my views are skewed, but i don't use the patriarchy as a thing that makes men privileged. It makes a few rich and powerful men more rich and powerful, but again, fucks average guys and girls. Whether or not this view is correct, it isn't consistent with patriarchy theory, so you should probably use clearer language to communicate your view (outside of this context, where you were able to go into detail). You might instead say we live a plutocracy, or a kleptocracy, or say that the system i…
/r/MensRights19/05/22 01:32 AM
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Are you gonna cancel your HBO Max subscription or other streaming services that host movies she stars in? I would, if I subscribed to a single streaming service. Like I said, I don't give money to Hollywood. I'm not sure how that was in any way unclear enough to merit your stupidly presumptuous retort.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/22 03:18 AM
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If I still gave money to hollywood (I don't, fuck those woke assholes), it would certainly be a deciding factor for me.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/22 02:01 AM
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They need a damn good pre-nup. Pull all the bells and whistles to make that shit as legit as possible. Even assuming you have one and a court upholds it, which itself is too big of a gamble to be worth making, you're fucked if you ever have children. Because of the "best interests of the child," prenups cannot contain provisions relating to custody or child support. The parent receiving child support has sole discretion on its use, and need not provide proof to either courts or the paying parent…
/r/MensRights16/05/22 01:06 AM
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Your trolling is of an even lower quality than your dwindling supply of eggs. I hope you've been clipping cat food coupons!
/r/MensRights16/05/22 12:53 AM
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False. Feminists and other woke nutters want equity. People who actually respect individual rights and have a functional sense of fairness want equality.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/05/22 08:44 PM
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Edit: Wow. Getting down voted for pointing out that courts have largely moved away from favoring mothers over fathers? You're getting downvoted because your claim is false.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/05/22 08:42 PM
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You don't even need to call for violence. I called the NZ PM a cunt and got permabanned of twitter. I didn't realize accurately describing a tyrant was verboten, but I suppose that's to be expected with social media generally.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:25 PM
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That mindset would be fine, assuming that person's best was actually worthwhile and their worst was reasonable. But of course that never the case with the sort of woman who posts that to their social media. They use that trite line as a mechanism to excuse behavior that is, or at least should be, multiple standard deviations from the mean, believing themselves to be sufficiently valuable (also never the case) to make their wildly inappropriate behavior something others should uncritically accept…
/r/MensRights12/01/22 01:41 AM
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A class action lawsuit is needed here. That may be far harder than you imagine. A court needs to certify a class, and while there is no statutory minimum, it usually requires a few dozen people and a large sum in controversy.
/r/MensRights26/12/21 03:05 AM
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If the union is acting like an employer, as sounds like is the case here, they could file an EEOC complaint, which does not require a lawyer. That said, discrimination against men isn't per se illegal in cases where the bastards can invoke affirmative action. Hard quotas or restrictions are illegal, but good luck proving that unless the interview was surreptitiously recorded.
/r/MensRights25/12/21 10:06 PM
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While I am sure she received a pussy pass, I would argue that her conduct, whether done by a male or a female, should not itself be illegal. To that end, I'm not bothered by the light sentence except to the degree that it represents yet another example of sexist sentencing disparities benefiting women as they proclaim themselves victims.
/r/PussyPass24/12/21 04:53 AM
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Your intersectional feminism is showing, and it doesn't suit you (or anybody).
/r/MensRights23/11/21 12:50 AM
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Whether or not said men are under 42, the women they're looking for certainly are. Hell, even if he didn't want kids, what the hell makes her an attractive option?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/21 01:16 PM
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According to the Constitution a man has the right to happiness among others. This is incorrect. The Declaration of Independence guarantees the right to pursue happiness, not to actually enjoy it. And the Declaration is not part of the Constitution, nor does it have an equivalent legal status to it.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 01:56 AM
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I can believe it, because based on her age, she took it when it was scored out of 2400 rather than 1600...which converts to a 990/1600, which is just above the 50th percentile. In other words, it is impressive only if you went to school somewhere that had a 10% graduation rate, average in most places, and profoundly underwhelming at any decent high school.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/21 01:41 AM
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imagine telling your wife Marriage is a mistake no man should ever make. There is no "based way" that involves marriage.
/r/MensRights01/11/21 08:17 PM
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Are you ok with our economy eventually tanking Yes, particularly if the alternative is the expansion of the welfare state and the furtherance of tax policy being used as a tool of social engineering. Parents who don't want to have kids shouldn't be bribed into doing so, and those who choose to have kids aren't doing so out of some sense of duty to society. It is an individual choice and should be treated as such by the government.
/r/MensRights01/11/21 05:57 PM
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How is that parent rewarded for the time, money, and labor they put into that child I'm not claiming the parents are rewarded. I have zero interest in rewarding them. You are suggesting that there is value in the labor of youth, and my point is that labor isn't free. In the case of the firefighter, my taxes go towards paying their salary.
/r/MensRights01/11/21 05:34 PM
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Since being a good parent benefits society (the same way clean air or water does), I think it's something we should fund with taxpayer dollars the same way we fund those things. So what's the limiting principle? Society benefits from people not dying from obesity-related illnesses. Should we give out free broccoli to people? Society benefits from fewer traffic deaths, so should we have a national speed limit of 40 mph to reduce driving fatalities? Otherwise the rest of us that don't have kids ar…
/r/MensRights01/11/21 05:08 PM
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If you want people to take on extra work, That's the critical bit...as somebody who doesn't want kids themselves, I would never expect others to have kids. If they want to have kids, that's fine. But it is no more my duty to make that easy for them than it would their duty to make buying a house easier for me.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 11:59 PM
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Unless I'm missing something, the market will reward their labor and innovation, and "social progress" is probably not something to celebrate (see: drag story hour), so I'm not sure why I need to be made to subsidize their existence. Besides, your view of their utility focuses only on the positives, ignoring the violence and criminality associated with youth. And yes, products of stable families are less disposed to crime than those raised by single mothers, but I'm not convinced that social eng…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:47 AM
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wouldn't this essentially make Parenthood something that only the minority of well-off could part take in in a healthy way The existence of extremely large, religious families with only one working parent would suggest otherwise. But I grant you, if you want to live the cosmopolitan big city life in a high COL area and enjoy the luxuries to which you are accustomed, that may be an issue. I'm just not convinced that you are entitled to get exactly what you want at my involuntary expense. For exam…
/r/MensRights30/10/21 06:01 PM
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Should men have a right to just as much parental leave as women? I think legally, neither paternity nor maternity leave should be a right, but rather something left to the discretion of the employer. Left with the ability to make that choice, were I seeking new employment, I would favor employers with the least generous policy towards both sexes, because it is a benefit I will never utilize, but which I will invariably subsidize through decreased wages to support the benefit.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 11:27 AM
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I think these things are much less true than you imagine. If you set aside whatever misguided idiocy you might've once read on Roosh's forums, the reality is that there are still profound issues for men, particularly centered around the legal system. Look at how divorce works in Japan and tell me it isn't appreciably worse than in the US.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 11:17 AM
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You’re already paying to educate kids that aren’t yours. And I already object to that. So I'm damn sure going to oppose efforts to soak me more to support your bad choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:13 AM
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Is there where I'm supposed to pretend to believe her, instead of point out that she's a sleezy political operative with a books whose sales she wants to drive up?
/r/MensRights27/10/21 01:22 AM
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The care I'll have funded by paying for longterm care insurance? Yeah, not really worth subsidizing you. Have kids or don't, but if you do, stop trying to make me pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:50 PM
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Fuck that, fuck any government who doesn’t incentivize two parent households No, fuck you for thinking I should be taxed more to support the kids you want. Why should I have to subsidize your lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:53 PM
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Ideally yes, but frustratingly many childfree women have difficulty finding a doctor willing to perform the procedure. This is in no way unique to women. Getting a vasectomy as a man if often hard if you're young, or outright illegal in a number of countries (e.g. in Hungary, childless men aren't legally eligible until 40, and it is never permitted until age 30, even then allowed only if a man already has at least four children). I wanted one at 18, made my first appointment at 26, didn't manage…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:50 PM
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She’s sharing pictures of herself in bra’s and underwear on a public forum, whipping out her ass cheeks so everyone can see on the cell phones. tf did she think was going to happen? Lmfao. She knew this would happen. I'd contend she wanted it to happen, both because she likes the ego boost from men not put off by her visible obesity, and so that she can get woke points by expressing victimhood when nobody is victimizing her.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/10/21 02:32 AM
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Because how else would you give entitled feminists more free shit via daddy government?
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:22 AM
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In a way the men's league, the NBA are so crazy overcompensated. I They aren't though. Listen, I have less respect for the average pro athlete than most, and I'd lose zero sleep if the NBA folded tomorrow. HOWEVER, the reality is that their salaries reflect the immense commercial value of their sport. If anything, the salary cap system means that a few top performers are probably underpaid relative to their actual value. What's the harm in spreading that out a bit so women can have a league? Why…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/21 11:15 PM
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reasonable guy Seems false.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/10/21 08:24 PM
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I mean, the story isn’t THAT ludicrous The part that makes it unbelievable is that she's an FDS poster. I rather doubt a single submitter to that vile hive has a BMI below 30. So the idea that an attractive man would express interest in her is what beggars belief.
/r/AntiFeminists07/10/21 05:33 AM
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The standards are rather different though. In every state which retains common law marriage, one of the requirements is that a couple "holds themselves out as married." So presently, you cannot accidentally wind up in a common law marriage in the US. Simply living together for too long is insufficient in any state to establish a common law marriage.
/r/MensRights04/10/21 12:04 PM
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I still believe there are many more normal women out there Irrelevant. The laws make any marriage an unreasonable gamble.
/r/MensRights01/10/21 05:54 PM
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Sorry but this kind of rethoric is usually pedalled by the woke. That's the point...hold them to their own standard.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 12:46 PM
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and I imagine most people would refuse. I imagine most people would object. But if the last couple of years have shown anything, it is that most people will simply go along with whatever the government tells them, and surrender their rights enthusiastically when to to do so.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 12:44 PM
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Her profile confirms this to be the case. There's a single selfie, which of course is shot in such a way as to hide a no doubt fat body. But even on the strength (or lack thereof) of her face and hair, she's below average. And that "still goth in my mid-30s" doesn't exactly scream that her years of therapy are working.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/09/21 12:23 PM
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Quite a bit, but this sort of unhinged nonsense is far from a uniquely Australian problem. Just look at how then-Senator Biden helped enshrine the Duluth Model in American law by way of the innocently named by incredibly pernicious VAWA. Both government and government-supported non-profits overwhelmingly tilt towards women, even when purporting to help men, because they give zero fucks about men.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:06 AM
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Also referring to a "gang of men." Guessing that isn't coincidence.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 10:11 PM
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Apparently We're Not Allowed To Stand Around In Group Anymore? There will always be paranoid nutters. Do not allow their insanity to control your behavior. Society may be oriented against men, but you can and should stand wherever the hell you like, provided you aren't trespassing. (Sad that this disclaimer needs to be added, but: your mileage may vary if you live in a Covid police state like Australia.)
/r/MensRights27/09/21 10:09 PM
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If a single father can raise a kid alone with no outside assistance, so can a single mother. Either that, or start making women who lose custody pay child support. Sure, but given the bias in the courts, a woman basically has to be an abusive crackhead to lose custody, so they're not exactly going to have the means to pay child support. So really, you'd just be sending them to jail, as presently happens to men who are delinquent on child support.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/21 10:20 PM
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Shocking that people don't just accept being censored and go after the shitheads who trampled on their free speech. Surely history shows that censorship solves all, and people will just adopt approved opinions once they're told they were previously guilty of wrongthink and wrongspeak.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/21 10:13 PM
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The case against marriage for men is strong everywhere, but India makes a stronger case than anywhere, even Japan.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/21 10:07 PM
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I wish! We'd be a far more based country if his attitude was the norm.
/r/PussyPass18/09/21 10:48 PM
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If i said, “men will not share their money” isn’t there the assumption to be made I’m speaking of men in general. Sure, but "in general" is exactly that: in general, not a universal absolute. If I say that black people vote for Democrats, it doesn't mean that 100% do, but that it is the highly standard behavior of the population being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:17 PM
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Maybe; for many MGTOW the argument against getting involved with women is a function of the legal risk based on paternity laws, false rape accusations, etc. So assuming that was also reformed, your premise might ring true. Of course, saying that a completely different global order would shift the nature of an ideology that exists in under another global order is hardly meaningful, let alone sufficient to suggest FDS and MGTOW are materially similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:17 PM
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MGTOW and FDS pretty much tell their user base to never change for the opposite gender at all. Even insofar as that is true, MGTOW then suggests rejecting women, whereas FDS is all about ensnaring a male pay pig. So they are fundamentally opposite each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:06 PM
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Also, I strongly advise against cohabitating with a gf for years because you're liable for the same alimony and there's no option of a prenup. In Canada, yes. In the US, no. Common law marriage has been abolished in most states, and even those retaining it require the couple hold themselves out as married, among other requirements, for that relationship to be recognized and so burden a party.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 06:47 PM
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Better yet, don't get married. Prenups can be and routinely are invalidated. Moreover, they cannot and do not address child custody and child support, and since child support does not come with any sort of accountability for how the money is spent, often winds up being backdoor alimony, particularly if you are of above-average means.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 06:13 AM
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Let us all work as a team and assign the best people for the job, not based on gender but on qualifications. If men are stronger, it makes sense that the military would want to have men on their draft. Two problems. First, the vast majority of roles in the military are non-combat positions. Therefore, strength is moot, because women could easily fill support roles necessary to a war effort. Second, women are now eligible for all combat units and special forces units in the US military. Even when…
/r/MensRights08/06/21 06:04 AM
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The solution is just to educate people about vasectomies. Does that solve the problem? Not really, no. I'm not what you're educating them on, since the risk I mentioned is something any urologist most and does disclose before performing one. That some theoretical risk that is very nominal exists is not and should not be sufficient to force people into eschewing sex. And frankly, the bigger issue with vasectomies is actually expanding reliable access to it to younger men BEFORE their lives are ru…
/r/MensRights19/05/21 08:58 AM
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You mean perform the equivalent of an abortion, which is withdrawing financial responsibility? I would agree to a law where a man can give up custody in exchange for not having any financial responsibility (no child support). Yes, exactly that. It's definitely avoidable though right? Only by the most smooth-brained standard, where one not only never drives or is driven somewhere, but also never leaves the house in an area where a vehicle could swerve/go up a curb and hit them. Interesting, but t…
/r/MensRights19/05/21 03:20 AM
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Next time you find yourself in an emergency, be sure to ask for proof of age before you help a woman. In an emergency I'm not helping women, regardless of age. I'm merely pointing out the fallaciousness of asserting reproductivity when a large portion of women have aged out of fertility. Also, I would nearly guarantee that if a man didn’t help your middle-aged to elderly mother in an emergency, you’d be furious. I can guarantee you that you're wrong. First responders whose job it is notwithstand…
/r/MensRights19/05/21 03:17 AM
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but you do agree that parents (the man and the woman) should take financial responsibility for the children they have? Not unless we outlaw abortion in all cases except where the mother's life is at risk. If women get choice, as they currently do, men deserve an analogous right. There is no "accidental" child, because sex is a voluntary thing done by choice. Driving is voluntary, yet I don't imagine you'd deny that car accidents exist. So yes, there are accidental children, because despite knowi…
/r/MensRights18/05/21 07:22 PM
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I'm critiquing your answer because it literally ignores the question posed. You could simply have said something to the effect of "I don't know how to handle those unfortunate few." That would be responsive, even if unsatisfactory. But you chose not to answer in that fashion, hence the "critique," which most people would recognize as logical pushback in a discussion.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 07:02 PM
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That's a non-answer. I ask about people who use contraception correctly, but are part of the unlucky minority for whom it fails. Like it or not, they exist, and so that still needs to be addressed, because "just use a condom" is an incomplete solution.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 06:58 PM
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But that is entirely irrelevant to the actual discussion being had in this thread.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 06:57 PM
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What's the point if you don't want children? Pleasure. Or, for that matter, bonding. There are plenty of people who, rather than going MGTOW, choose to have relationships but don't want or can't have children. Why wouldn't they want to have sex? There are other more fun things you can do for free like videogames. There are things you think are more fun. Personally, I have zero interest in playing video games, so but for being MGTOW, in that binary choice, even bad sex would win over videogames.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 06:55 PM
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Then by that logic, there should be an age ceiling for women, because they sure as hell aren't provided fertility at 50.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 07:34 AM
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She's a fat cokehead (an impressive combo) who posts HAES propaganda and survives by selling pictures of her grossly tattooed body on OF.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 07:33 AM
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Then we seem to be in agreement. A paper abortion is exactly what you describe, a right to disclaim parental obligations AND rights, severing any legal relationship between the man and his alleged future offspring.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 04:04 AM
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This is still illegal in CA, it was merely (and outrageously) downgraded from a felony to a misdemeanor.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:47 AM
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I'm sure there's a context in which your poorly written comment would be relevant, but whatever that context may be, this thread isn't it.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:45 AM
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I used to support abortion as well. My position in recent years has been that all abortion, except that needed to save the life of the mother, should be prohibited. I don't want that in the long term. Rather, I want parity for men and women. And until women are denied choice and forced to assume the burdens of unwanted parenthood, we'll never get equalizing reform. My end goal would be for virtually unrestricted abortion rights, coupled with equally expansive paper abortion rights for men.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:44 AM
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They do, but the unfortunate reality is that 100% of taxpayers are paying to support some program or another that they would never fund if given the choice. I, for example, would not fund almost anything my tax dollars are wasted on, like national parks, SRS for prison inmates, gain of function research in Wuhan, or countless other outrages. Yet I have no such right to avoid funding these terrible programs.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:40 AM
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So what my taxes go to finance a kids men can’t be arsed to raise and women don’t really want. They already do. But, as it happens, we know that OH spent more money trying to collect child support than it recovered for mothers. Personally, I oppose the existence of any social safety net. Absent that, I don't think the rationale you're advocating is sound, unless as a childless man I get to stop paying for public school education, SNAP, or any number of programs that benefit children I never chos…
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:37 AM
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Now imagine you being upset over our choices. I don't need to imagine it, as I am. The deal is far worse for men then women, since total power is enjoyed by women, whereas responsibility is offloaded on the man. Unless men get to enjoy a right to paper abortions, then women should not have a right to abort absent a threat to their lives. So long as men get the right to a paper abortion, I'm happy to support an equally permissive policy for women.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:29 AM
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Even granting that the majority of unplanned pregnancies come from the failure to use contraception and could be avoided, there are invariably some people who draw the short straw and wind up conceiving despite the correct use of contraception. What exactly do you propose they do?
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:27 AM
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So your solution for people who don't want children is to never have sex at any point in their lives?
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:26 AM
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Even when a women wants to abort a child most of the time, they are unable to even if the fetus threatens their life. I don't believe there is a country in the world with a total abortion ban that applies even when the life of the mother is threatened. If I'm wrong, please let me know which countries have that standard, which is so extreme even Rick Santorum would oppose it. In any case, the nations from which the vast majority of participants of the sub hail all allow abortion, usually with few…
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:25 AM
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It's a shame Russian failed to annex your country.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 06:33 AM
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Menslib is a male feminist subreddit, and therefore is actively at odds with advocacy for the rights of men. You are a troll engaging in bad faith.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 06:31 AM
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This is perhaps the revelation of revelations -but- an ever increasing number of women aren’t particularly concerned about “ending up alone”. ...when they're still of an age where they are getting attention from decent quality men, and know that they still have options, even if they are going unexercised. How those 25 year old women will feel at 50 is yet to be established regarding the generation in question, but reason suggests they aren't going to be radically different from prior generations…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/21 04:26 PM
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Pedophile prophet: he married a 9 year old who was an adult by the time (in islam there is no marriage unless the girl is sexiually and mentally adult / ready) and she was and also there is a rule in Islam about marriage (a tradition of society is taken as order of god unless it's against what I mention before) False. He married a 6 year old, and first defiled her at age nine, while she was still playing with dolls, which is generally understood to signal that she hadn't begun puberty. Fucking t…
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 12:26 AM
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We’re not the ones that are crying because we never get laid. Nor are the vast majority of men here, oh inadequate builder of strawmen. Any man that is complaining about how they’re being oppressed are a bunch of fucking pussies and a lame excuse of a man anyways. Right, the real problem facing society is sexist air conditioning! Things like genital integrity for men, false rape accusations, denial of paternity rights, unfair divorce settlements, and disproportionate rates of suicide, homlessnes…
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:01 PM
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i wish i could apologize on behalf of all men Alternatively, you could apologize for yourself, for being such a pathetic clown.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:25 AM
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This just reads like someone Attacking moms because you think they get too much credit and you don't get enough. Cry more. Be better than that. He's already far better than you. So maybe level up or shut up.
/r/MensRights24/04/21 08:02 PM
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Stop seeking social approval. If you decide to date, the case for which is rather weak, you can have whatever standards you want.
/r/MensRights22/04/21 06:45 PM
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Sure, but it is entirely common for institutions to enforce illegal policies on the reasonable assumption that the person they abuse won't pursue civil redress for the violation of rights. Just look at the due process violations universities carried on for years for men accused of sexual misconduct, where a handful of universities began shifting their policies even pre-DeVos because more men started suing and winning in court.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/04/21 12:46 AM
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And if companies ignore the market's feedback, they fail. But if they are profiting from their pricing scheme, then the actual market feedback suggests their conduct is proper, no matter how much an entitled minority whines.
/r/AntiFeminists15/04/21 10:11 PM
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no choice for women who are not willing to pay as much. [...] I could also buy men products So there is a choice, you just don't like it. To that, I say, cry more.
/r/AntiFeminists15/04/21 09:36 PM
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The fact that gendered products sell better doesn't make the practice of gendering products justified. Of course it does. Company only exist to generate a profit for shareholders. Nothing else matters.
/r/AntiFeminists15/04/21 09:35 PM
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I don’t know if I’d recommend, but in America at least students can get suspended or even expelled for using the n word. If we're talking about a public school, their power to punish students for speech entirely off campus is limited.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/04/21 06:45 PM
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As in the US where I am and it’s illegal, I can’t imagine someone would be so forthright in offering sex for value Most people have no idea about the legal definition of prostitution, and simply assume it is the exchange of sex for money. Moreover, people violate all sorts of laws regularly and openly, so long as they don't anticipate being caught (e.g. drug laws and piracy laws).
/r/PussyPassDenied15/04/21 06:43 PM
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Because I'm a 250 pound dude who lives in a legit hellhole that needs to be carpet bombed. No one deserves me. Still definitionally superior to 100% of FDS participants.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/04/21 06:38 PM
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wondered why they’ve dedicated a sub to dating (dating men in maybe most cases) when it’s obvious to see they all hate men? They're not so much interested in dating as they are "dating" to extract resources. They aspire to be prostitutes without the sex.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/04/21 06:37 PM
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Like don’t feminists want equality? No. That has literally never been the aim of feminism. Even the first wave demanded rights that (white) men had for (rich white) women, but none of the associated burdens/duties. Those same feminists who demanded the vote, usually in extremely racist terms and only once the franchise was being secured for black men, weren't also advocating that women be subject to the draft or be made to work in fire brigades or other life-risking, liberty-limiting activities.…
/r/PussyPassDenied15/04/21 06:32 PM
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Hmm, I have to disagree with the gynocentric comment Then, and I mean this with all due respect (none), you're a moron. Even accepting your anecdotal experience as true, the vast discrepancy in outcomes AND written law affirm a different reality. Some people manage to get shot in the head and survive, but it doesn't mean that we'd stop describing being shot in the head as fatal, given the observable norm.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/21 01:11 AM
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If a woman doesn't have her 4 kids, in this gynocentric system, she must have done something horrific to lose them. It is possible that rather than the court having taken them, she voluntarily handed them over to their father(s), at least temporarily, so that they don't get in the way of her entrapping another walking wallet.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/21 01:08 AM
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That's an 80s movie cliche that has, generally speaking, been ended. Now, of course, some prisons are cushier than others, and systemic corruption means that some people can bribe their way into superior treatment. But there are no cushy prisons in the US. (Jails can be another story, like the paid cells in LA that celebrities often wind up in for short sentences.)
/r/PussyPassDenied03/04/21 01:49 AM
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I’d MUCH rather give up my wallet, phone, watch then to risk being fucking killed for it. You can always make more money, but it’s much harder to come back from seriously severe physically injury like a broken arm legs neck ribs etc. You're not arguing in good faith. He's talking about somebody losing their life savings vs a run of the mill minor assault with some light injuries. And you're comparing it to the opposite extreme of losing an iphone vs sustaining permanent and serious physical inju…
/r/PussyPassDenied03/04/21 01:47 AM
1

And McCain is an exception. Is he, though? See also: Lindsey Graham, Dan Crenshaw, and Tom Cotton.
/r/MensRights30/03/21 10:08 PM
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Like maybe it's just me but I didn't find him tripping on the stairs funny. I would agree, save for the fact that Biden said, in reference to Trump, "Look at how he steps and look at how I step. Watch how I run up ramps and he stumbles down ramps. Come on." So if walking slowly and not tripping is a valid basis of attack in Joe's own words, I think he deserves to be relentlessly mocked when it turns out he can't go up stairs without falling three times.
/r/MensRights30/03/21 10:04 PM
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Can the movement have such a big impact as has been suggested? The mistake is thinking that MGTOW is about activism. It isn't. The broader men's rights movement, which many MGTOW support, is about advocating for legal change and/or social reforms. However, MGTOW is about individual men making a rational choice informed by the reality of ours laws, social norms, and/or biological realities. You can't fix divorce and paternity laws, but you can generally choose not to become a victim of them in th…
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 09:45 PM
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Imagine being a meth user and looking down on others. Oh, wait...
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 07:27 PM
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He has a legacy and many people remember him. Why exactly does that matter? We enjoy one fairly brief life. I care about living that life for me, not for what is said about me in the obituaries, let alone what somebody might remember a generation or more later. Insofar as this was meaningful and satisfying to him, good for him. But I don't think having a legacy is something that one needs to strive for.
/r/MGTOW226/03/21 06:19 PM
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And loads of toxic masculinity. You could've just said "I'm a cuck" instead of writing out two paragraphs of idiocy.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/03/21 05:22 PM
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What stops me from saying, Literally nothing. You can say whatever the fuck you want. As I'm not a leftist, I have zero interest in silencing you or compelling you to adopt a particular view.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 09:59 PM
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What the hell kind of reply is that? There is no source to cite. My conclusion that it is feminism stems from the fact that feminism is not and has never been about equality, but about securing further advantages for women. The "source" on that would be the entire history of feminism. Karen Straughan and the other women of HoneyBadgerRadio have spoken extensively on the depraved history of feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 05:41 PM
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Wow, you can find men willing to use you as a human fleshlight, so impressive! But the commitment you crave is never going to happen, because you're absolute trash. Start clipping cat food coupons.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 05:34 PM
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My 0000 rule. Size 0, 0 kids, 0 tattoos, 0 debt. The best part about that is that 3/4 of those are entirely within a woman's control, and the other is at least largely subject to her control. And of course unlike the 666 rule, this should be easy to mostly meet, insofar as even a cashier at Walmart can avoid unwanted pregnancies, tattoos, or self-created debt.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 05:32 PM
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FDS is cancerous True. and is not feminism False.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 05:29 PM
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Because feminism isn't and never was about the welfare of women generally. Rather, it has always been a vehicle for already privileged women to demand even more unearned privileges while getting to pretend that there is a moral validity to their cause. To be clear, that has been true even since first wave feminism, which historic illiteracy causes many men who should know better to defend. Even setting aside the violence of the first wave, what it is best remembered for is getting women the vote…
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 05:25 PM
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Are you too stupid to distinguish between harboring bigoted views and carrying out violent crimes intended to cause terror in a targeted population? Because that's the distinction between these two very different things you seem awfully insistent upon conflating. Both are bad, but they aren't equally bad, nor are they the same thing.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 05:21 PM
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I'd like to see this attitude catch on, if only because too many men still feel socially pressured into making the dramatic mistake of getting married. If more women eschew the institution, there are fewer opportunities for the bluepilled majority of men to ruin their lives through marriage.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 07:18 PM
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No more unpresidential than things the current POTUS has said, like "Poor kids are just as talented as white kids."
/r/AntiFeminists19/03/21 07:10 PM
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For real, im 18, and know I am a fucking moron, what do people seriously expect from 13 year olds? Basic moral decency. You'll notice that the vast majority of 13 year olds never falsely accuse somebody of a serious crime and cause that person legal trouble. Every country has a minimum age for criminal culpability, and 13 is above it in every Anglosphere jurisdiction.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/03/21 12:49 PM
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Says the man with a worldview of a pre-schooler.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 02:04 AM
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Party consent applies to recording phone conversations and other exchanges where the law recognizes a reasonable expectation of privacy. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place, hence why you can be photographed. The only functional control on that is the right to control one's likeness in a commercial context, hence why TV shows blur out faces when they cannot get releases signed.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 01:58 AM
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Wow, good job on guessing that somebody right of center watches the most popular right of center talkshow/podcast. That's almost as impressive as guessing that it is colder in Canada than Singapore on any given day.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 01:56 AM
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Because that's the gist of what I'm seeing over there Then it appears that you're functionally illiterate. Go file suit against whatever school district failed you so thoroughly.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 01:55 AM
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even browses/upvotes anything here gets banned Literally not possible re: browsing, and theoretically possible re: upvoting only if your profile is configured a certain way. They do autoban lots of people, but not as you're describing it. the lady version of MGTOW I see this take often, and 100% of the people offering it are morons who seem incapable of grasping the very basic premise of MGTOW. FDS is its literal opposite, insofar as MGTOW explicitly advocates not dating women to protect one's r…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 01:53 AM
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I do. And I get the sense that you bust a nut to Rachel Maddow, your male role model.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 01:44 AM
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And yet, it is a safe bet that he's your superior in every meaningful sense. Eat more soy.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 01:40 AM
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I mean it's illegal already to take pics of people in public in my country What country is that?
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 01:33 AM
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This is why I check IDs if I met them somewhere that's not 18+. Just an FYI, at least in the US, even if you met somebody at a bar that was 21+, and they showed you the most convincing fake ID known to man, you'd still be on the hook for statutory rape if they were actually below the age of consent.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/21 01:26 AM
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Potentially, though I guess part of it comes down to the definition of nice. For example, until recently, I had been using my home office chair for 8 years, and it was a $300 chair. Not the same trash that goes for $60 a Staples, but not a pricey Herman Miller either. That, to me, represented the practical compromise of being good enough to be durable, but not being notably high end or extravagant. Was it a nice chair? It isn't what I would envision being called nice, but I suppose people who st…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/21 01:20 PM
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What made you figure that? My logic, assuming everything she says is true: Works in tech. The overwhelming majority of women in tech, particularly if they are in actual tech roles, rather than HR or some other bullshit job, are Indian and Chinese. She claims to pay her parents' mortgage. If, as she says, she's only a few years out of college, the only way that would be possible, assuming she maintains a separate home, is if her parents live in a poor rural area or in a third world country. There…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/21 11:44 AM
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http://nordicparadox.se/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/The-Nordic-gender-equality-paradox.pdf
/r/MensRights11/03/21 10:21 AM
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If she is paying 2 mortgages I would assume it is more than 45k a year. Maybe it's just me, but I figured she was Indian and her parents lived back in India, which would make supporting them much more practical (and also more likely; how many American women in their 20s are supporting their parents?).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/21 09:12 AM
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...to you. What individuals value can and should vary. I, for example, only care that my furniture is functional, not nice. I'd rather spend my money on electronics, or good whisky, or (pre- and post-covid hysteria) travel. That said, it's pretty damn rich to brag about money while talking about your Ikea furniture. Their stuff is usually sufficient for its purposes, but I certainly isn't something that should be a point of pride.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/21 09:10 AM
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You seem salty about being too ugly to dupe any simps into Venmoing you unearned money on International Women's Day.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/03/21 11:52 AM
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Well, if she isn't really, she's done a great job of staying in character without any hint of breaking for several years, in both print and video, across numerous platforms. But "journalist," even as much disrespect as the job title deserves in our times given the extent to which it has become little more than naked activism in most cases, is not a label that could ever reasonably be applied to her. "Writer," sure, in the sense that she technically outputs a series of words that can be read. But…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/03/21 05:18 AM
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Amy Horton I believe she goes by Amy Warton now.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/03/21 01:41 AM
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Given the choice between literally burning my money or giving it to random entitled ehags, I would choose the former 100% of the time.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/03/21 01:19 AM
1

Oh good, Andrea Dworkin has been summoned up from hell to post on this subreddit.
/r/MensRights07/03/21 10:20 AM
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I'm all for total abolition of the welfare state. I'm just pointing out that it is manifestly unreasonable to assert that only parents should have the vote, yet all should be taxed to pay for their kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/21 11:44 PM
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I'll happily give up my vote...as soon as I stop having to pay for your kid's public school.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/21 02:36 PM
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Counter-proposal: jail single mothers who cannot financially support their children as we currently do to men. Leave the kids in the care of the state, since as inept as government is, they'd almost certainly do a better job than these useless birthing canals. Then the mothers are still getting the free shit from government they claim to want, and society gets the benefit of not dealing with them.
/r/AntiFeminists06/03/21 08:49 AM
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You’re certainly bad at taking direction. Or perhaps he realizes that nobody should take direction from you, you silly fuck.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/03/21 06:13 PM
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There are plenty of people secure enough to date a sex worker. Riiiiight, insecurity is the only reason to not date a literal whore. Such a stunning and brave take.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/03/21 06:08 PM
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I hope he flees Italy and she finds herself consigned to permanent poverty. Absolutely revolting.
/r/MensRights26/02/21 09:11 PM
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Oh, but it is! Allow me to rephrase: because I do not give a damn about the feelings of people who work in this space, I will use whatever language I like, regardless of any offense it causes. I don't feel the need to feign respect for people I don't respect, except if I'm dealing with them on a professional basis. And since I don't professionally deal with prostitutes or e-whores, I have no need to pretend to respect them.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/02/21 05:19 PM
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and the importance of using one term instead of the other Not important.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/02/21 05:02 PM
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Regular simping is bad enough. Simping for an actual jihadi bride is next level awful. What's it like being the lowest form of life on the planet?
/r/PussyPassDenied26/02/21 04:57 PM
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Creepy It's one of those words that when I hear a woman use (and let's be honest, it is almost exclusively women who use it), I know I can and should ignore anything that follows, much as I would if she started crowing about "white privilege" or the wage gap or any other braindead nonsense.
/r/MensRights24/02/21 08:26 AM
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The “Yeah. Shit should equal, now boot up or boot out” kind. If that's you're definition of feminism, then you have no business condescending to anybody here, since it is one that evidences an ignorance of the entire history of the movement. Feminism is plainly malicious, even if there are a few decent individuals who've been duped into using the label or who realize there is a branding utility to adopting it on a qualified basis (e.g. Christina Hoff Sommers).
/r/MensRights24/02/21 08:22 AM
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We should be using all the time, because it accurately encapsulates a mindset that we need to shame out of existence, rather than mainstreaming it, as CNN appears to favor.
/r/MensRights24/02/21 08:17 AM
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Honestly I would be sad if I got banned, that shit provides hours of entertainment, Being banned from a subreddit doesn't prevent you from reading it. It just prevents you from posting/submitting links, and it means that the reddit algorithm throws out any up/downvotes you think you made on posts and comments there. The only way a subreddit can keep you from being able to read it is by going private.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/02/21 03:14 AM
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While in general women are often shielded from accountability, the medical sector is one area where, given the risks, the is somewhat less tolerance for such outrageous expressions. While you can argue that what was said in that case was even worse, just look at what happened to Laura Kollab: https://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/2020/08/former-cleveland-clinic-residents-training-certificate-revoked-over-anti-semitic-social-media-comments.html
/r/MensRights21/02/21 12:15 AM
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Reddit doesn't allow it, but outside of this platform she needs to be reported. Garbage like this gets taken seriously, as it should, and would hopefully end her career.
/r/MensRights21/02/21 12:12 AM
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If you don’t have money for a lawyer, go to the police This is nonsense advice. There is nothing for the police to do. What purpose would that serve?
/r/MensRights12/02/21 06:45 AM
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She's a Nigerian actress working in Nigeria. I don't think Western cancel culture is a thing there.
/r/MensRights02/01/21 01:08 AM
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when you are forced to be circumcised because of you crazy mother because as we all know sadly men don’t have right. I’m 15 male by the way and thanks I've literally never encountered a person who is against allowing an adult to choose their foreskin's destiny. The issue, whether it is a "crazy mother" or one's father or a presumptuous doctor who cuts without even getting parental consent, is the right of bodily integrity. We wouldn't let a parent tattoo something on the child's forehead, so why…
/r/MensRights14/12/20 12:44 PM
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Crazy idea...if you know literally nothing on a subject, stay the fuck out of the discussion, instead of wildly speculating and putting your own staggering ineptitude on display. Sound like a plan champ?
/r/MensRights08/11/20 11:42 PM
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Does a woman favoring her own sex qualify as a simp? Because Sucharitha is a woman.
/r/MensRights08/11/20 11:40 PM
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The individual wrote made that statement appears to be a biological male has not yet begun his intended transition, but nonetheless expends quite a bit of energy advocating that other men transition, seemingly without regard for whether or not they actually suffer from gender dysphoria.
/r/MensRights07/07/20 07:23 AM
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Eh even if science could somehow say definitively life didn't begin until week 15 We're asking a philosophical/legal question, so science cannot ever answer it. All science can do it provide us data that assists in answering that question, i.e. when there is a heart beat. Reality is you're either ending a life that's already started or will be starting. If you end it before it technically begins is that really any better? How could it not be? If we could definitively say that X is the start of l…
/r/MensRights07/07/20 02:58 AM
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My whole point is it becomes nothing more than an academic exercise because no one wants to really get into the moral side let alone spiritual. It's splitting hairs when you're trying to determine the exact week it has a heartbeat and whether you still have a week to go or something. False. You have concluded that life begins at conception, and thus regard further discussion as pointless. For those of us who do not share your extreme position, which would be a majority of Americans, it is very m…
/r/MensRights07/07/20 02:14 AM
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People want to dehumanize a fetus because it's convenient more than anything Or because they have a legitimate disagreement with you. Somewhere around 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage before the 20th week, and the actual number is almost certainly higher, because some occur so early on that the "mother" wouldn't even know she'd been pregnant. And even setting that aside, it isn't as if at conception there is a heart beat, brain activity, a capacity for pain, or viability outside of the womb…
/r/MensRights07/07/20 01:50 AM
1

We all want to have one nighht stands but not deal with the consequences... People are dealing with the consequences...just not in a way that you find acceptable, which seems like a "you" problem. We all seem to forget the unborn child is the real victim here. No, what you seem to forget is that there is broad disagreement on when the cluster of cells attains personhood to which legal rights attach. You seem to believe it is at conception, which is a fair enough position to take. But for people …
/r/MensRights07/07/20 01:34 AM
1

So why does this book have such a bad rep outside MRA, MGTOW, TRP, etc. circles? Because the only other people who've heard of it, let alone read it, are feminists.
/r/MensRights28/06/20 04:09 PM
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No worries. Glad to see that it was just a failure of communication and not support for their feminist nonsense. Apologies if I was overly harsh.
/r/MensRights22/06/20 04:02 AM
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Yes. Unless you're horribly inarticulate and meant to express something else, your position is that a subreddit which draws attention to society's exculpation of women for their misdeeds should be shut down. That is the position of somebody who is devoid of merit.
/r/MensRights22/06/20 03:56 AM
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Not that he shouldn’t try What's it like having completely failed as a human being?
/r/MensRights22/06/20 03:52 AM
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I’ll think twice in the future about posting something that can be twisted around and presented as evidence of fEmInisM BaD. Is this supposed to matter to anybody here? Because I can promise you that it doesn't.
/r/MensRights11/06/20 03:46 AM
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You might have a very weak point, if that's how things played out. But he used a condom at her direction. So regardless of his preferences, he did the only thing possible short of not having sex that he could to avoid getting her pregnant. He should not be responsible in any way.
/r/MensRights11/06/20 03:08 AM
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Likewise, I would love for these women to explain to me how Boulder, CO is so genetically different from McAllen, TX, with the latter having an obesity rate three times that of the former.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/05/20 08:15 AM
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Then you're deranged.
/r/MensRights29/05/20 12:52 PM
1

This should not be debatable. Of course it should be. You must suffer from a serious case of TDS if you think there is no reasonable case to made for voting for Trump in 2020. Now, if you think he doesn't deserve your vote, so be it. But if you are fundamentally incapable of recognizing why others will and should vote for him, that's a you problem.
/r/MensRights29/05/20 05:19 AM
1

My theory is don't let anyone convince you voting for the less evil is better. At the end of the day fuck everyone who is evil. Tad tipsy right now so probably doesn't come off correct. That's tantamount to never voting again. There's been literally one candidate on my ballot ever who I voted for on merit, and even then with reservations. He's now retiring. If I didn't vote for a lesser evil, I'd spend the next half century not voting.
/r/MensRights29/05/20 05:17 AM
3

This same company, it's worth remembering, was extremely quick to cut ties with another model when animal rights activists whipped up online outrage upon discovering that she liked to hunt. So their stance appears to be that animals matter more than men.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 06:13 PM
6

The worst part is, he will never attract any women with that mentality, How is that the worst part? Relationships are a losing proposition for men in our time. The worst part is that he understands the overwhelming risk that comes with dating, yet assumes it regardless, either because he is operating under the mistaken belief that having a woman in his life is important/desirable, or he feels socially pressured into doing so, lest he be shamed as some sort of creepy neckbeard incel. Were he to r…
/r/MensRights28/05/20 01:01 AM
2

The English language is incredibly varied and beautiful. ...because people add to it, you grandiose fuckwit.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/20 12:36 PM
6

With the right person things will be fine. I'm sure that's quite the consolation to millions of men who believed they made that right choice and are now paying alimony and child support while getting barely any time with their kids.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/20 12:35 PM
1

I get that she can't drink, but I'm suggesting that demanding the same of her partner is likely to tether her to somebody just as dysfunctional as her, which seems like a bad idea. And that's without taking into account that AA tells participants to be sober for a full year before dating, which is rather unlikely to be her situation. So getting together prematurely with another addict under the expectation that it'll help her stay sober strikes me as misguided. But what do I know?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/05/20 12:20 AM
2

"If you aint sober don't hit me up" This seems like an especially dumb inclusion. Sure, she's probably junkie trash trying to avoid falling in with the wrong sort and getting back on the needle express. At the same time, somebody who has a glass of wine with dinner is not "sober," but they don't need to be, because like the vast majority of the population, they have the ability to moderate their intake and not become dependent or self-destruct through substance abuse. Disqualifying those people …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 04:10 AM
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They also know the judges personally, often for years. Except probably not. The vast majority of attorneys do work of such a nature that they don't actually spend any time in court. Even supposing she were a criminal defense attorney or worked in civil litigation, she's unlikely to have meaningful ties to the Family Court judges before whom she's never argued. The legal system is much more fragmented than most non-lawyers appreciate.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 03:58 AM
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I would argue two points. Law school and/or preparing for the bar does not naturally teach you anything of the sort. You may pick up the odd thing in a Family Law course if you take one, but most of us never do. If she doesn't work in family law, she probably knows almost nothing about it, particularly if she entered the field at an appropriate age rather than late in life, since she'll have spent 15+ years specializing in something else. "Tricks" aren't really a factor. Divorce law is written i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 03:55 AM
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Also I'm pretty sure Facebook is blocked in most of the relevant countries, including SA. You would be incorrect. KSA has not banned Facebook. In fact, I do not believe a single country that prohibits alcohol has a total, permanent ban of Facebook. Even in Iran restrictions to Facebook access is sporadic rather than permanent and ongoing.
/r/MensRights21/05/20 08:37 AM
1

there's a significant legal risk if they leave such messages up in a place where marijuana is illegal. And yet if I post a picture of my beer, they won't delete it just because it wouldn't be legal in Saudi Arabia. So that line of reasoning is utter nonsense.
/r/MensRights21/05/20 08:22 AM
2

Trans women are still, functionally speaking, women. False. At absolute best they pass as female, as you suggest. Though generally, and especially if we're talking about places other than Thailand, even those who "pass" still have some very obvious male tales. yo this kind of shit is why yall are always called altrights Yes, people who are stupid and therefore ignorant of both biology and politics might make use our adherence to scientific fact to politically demonize us in a way that spits in t…
/r/MensRights20/05/20 01:51 AM
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Yes. And they still would even if the person in question "transitioned," because there are no hormones or surgery able to rewrite chromosomes.
/r/MensRights20/05/20 01:47 AM
1

A few reasons I think. Feminism is inarguably on the left. That doesn't mean that anti-feminists aren't found across the political spectrum, just that the ideology we attack is firmly on the left, and thus in a binary it is natural to code men's rights as a conservative cause. Many of the issues we raise regularly - like the problems of no-fault divorce - could be understand as being pro family values, which is something a vocal segment of the left has spent decades actively opposing. MRAs tend …
/r/MensRights18/05/20 11:33 PM
1

True...the real feminist position is "believe all women, except when doing so is inconvenient for our agenda, in which case attack the woman as a right wing astroturf."
/r/MensRights18/05/20 11:23 PM

God, pornhub is the biggest plague in our society A categorically absurd take.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:23 AM
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This is a very rational thought. Your sarcasm notwithstanding, it is rational. I owe random women nothing. Too many men have had their lives ruined from false accusations. Why should I assume that risk to protect some random woman?
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:22 AM
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Right, but they aren't the ones who might accuse him of rape after the black out, even if he doesn't touch her with a ten foot pole.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:20 AM

I'd still argue that you made the wrong call. Self-preservation trumps protecting some random drunk girl.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:17 AM
1

Her pushback still leaves much to be desired, as she espouses support for male self-defense only if the hitting is "continuous" and he tells her to stop first. Simple rule...you take a swing, you get knocked the fuck out.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/20 10:51 PM
1

The ACLU's current Executive Director, Anthony Romero, took over 2001. He slowly shifted it to the right, but it didn't fully abandon its mission to become a left wing activist organization until the 2016 election. With Trump's win, angry Democratic activists started dumping money into an assortment of causes they claimed to support, while exerting more influence to demand that they become increasingly progressive, which gave Romero the green light to reshape the organization to match his person…
/r/MensRights16/05/20 07:55 PM
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I imagine anybody familiar with her who isn't absolute psycho would agree. Her career is quite literally nothing other than charging deranged wealthy white women $2500 to accuse them of racism while eating dinner.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/05/20 10:24 PM
1

I understood ACLU was at the forefront of ensuring due process rights for poor, African American accused. That's never been the case. Historically they did actually stand up for constitutional rights, including due process, though in the last several years they've realigned to become a leftist advocacy organization. As far as champions of the wrongly accused, particularly poor blacks, you might be thinking of the Innocence Project, which best I can tell has held faithfully to its mission and sti…
/r/MensRights15/05/20 08:18 PM
2

If we accept her idiotic preference, then it also stands to reason that women, as objects, have a value that changes with time. Specifically, they age into worthlessness, akin to spoiled milk, or as our Japanese friends might say, christmas cake.
/r/MensRights15/05/20 08:01 PM
1

Aging is a 100% completely avoidable feature of life. Except by definition that is false. Aging occurs every second of existence until death, and even following death a corpse technically continues to age as it decomposes. So it is even only semi-escapable through death, and even then not really. Conversely, 0% of men can become pregnant, a certain percentage of women are infertile, and of those women who are fertile, many will never become pregnant or will terminate said pregnancy in utero. Upo…
/r/MensRights10/05/20 07:46 AM
2

Sure, but that isn't relevant at the individual level. If our species is to survive, agriculture is necessary, but in 2020 not every person needs to be a subsistence farmer. That plenty of people live a full life without reproducing is proof that, unlike aging, it is a voluntary and thus avoidable life choice, hence the dichotomy in how we ought to respond to each reality.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 03:48 AM
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Aging is inevitable, pregnancy is not.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 12:11 AM
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One of the big problems with this sub is that there seems to be a strong tradcon sentiment among a very vocal subset of users. Now, if one wishes to be bible thumper who blinds themselves to the legal and financial risk of marriage in the 21st century, so be it. But emphasizing a life built around marrying and providing for a woman and then hoping you don't get destroyed by the family courts seems like a different variation of blue pill idiocy to me.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/20 06:54 AM
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Toxic masculinity ...is a nonsense term invented by feminist academics to justify their activism dressed up as scholarship nonsense discipline.
/r/MensRights09/05/20 06:44 AM

Destruction of the nuclear family That has literally nothing to do with pornography. There are two major factors. The first is the rise of the welfare state, and especially the construction of many forms of social welfare as being available only to single mothers as opposed to in tact families. The second was the widespread adoption of no fault divorce and the accompanying social destigmatization of divorce. It turns out that when you create significant financial incentives for people to give up…
/r/TheRedPill08/05/20 09:10 PM
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It should go without saying that the actual crimes of sexual assault and rape should be handled through the legal system rather than the university. Insofar as that isn't the case and the political will to shift in that direction seems limited, reformation of the Obama standards was both necessary and proper. This is a very good step in the right direction, but I would like to see further changes, namely: The rule holds colleges accountable for the conduct of off-campus fraternities and sororiti…
/r/MensRights06/05/20 06:11 PM
2

Sure, why not? Well, I don't much care to validate the delusions of the mentally ill. If an anorexic was telling me that she was a fat pig who needed to lose weight, I wouldn't politely agree. If somebody suicidal told me they wanted to die and had nothing to live for, I wouldn't point them to the nearest bridge. So if a biological male tells me he's a woman, I'm not any more inclined to play along. What does it change in your life so significantly that makes it not worth having someone a little…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/05/20 04:03 PM
2

So where does the line get drawn? Suppose I am open to ignoring reality and am willing to call a biological male who presents as male but identifies as female as "she/her." Do I then oblige people with their fictitious non-gendered pronouns like ze/zir or hu/hum? If so, does there become a point where I can draw the line, like if somebody tells me their pronouns are "attack/attack helicoper?"
/r/PussyPassDenied06/05/20 03:48 PM
1

No. I would say 50000 tho And everybody who isn't a moron would say that you're deranged.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/05/20 01:47 PM
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And those comments remain correct, even if you're offended. The person in question is a biological male. Using corresponding pronouns is categorically reasonable.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/05/20 01:44 PM
1

The military itself doesn't recognize prenups. The military doesn't adjudicate divorces though, so I cannot see how that statement accords with reality.
/r/MensRights24/01/20 01:22 PM
1

Which state is this?
/r/MensRights24/01/20 01:15 PM
1

Problem is the military will not allow you to get one. Expand on that please, because I cannot fathom how the military has any say on such matters.
/r/MensRights24/01/20 01:09 PM
1

I know of zero evidence to suggest that they are thrown out "the majority of the time," though they can be and often are invalidated for a range of overly broad reasons as a function of judicial discretion. Moreover, even if upheld, they cannot in any way define or limit child support, which often functions as backdoor alimony, as even the woman in the screencap seems to grasp.
/r/MensRights24/01/20 01:00 PM
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Get lost concern troll.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 09:32 PM
1

Stonetoss is an anti-semite, but even anti-semites can be correct. Literally nothing in this particular comment hints at, let alone explicitly mentions, Jews. In the US especially, MGM is mainstream, and not primarily a Jewish practice. Calling it out is not anti-semitic unless done in a way which is anti-semitic. And this comment doesn't use any anti-semitic imagery or language.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 02:04 AM
1

Within the Jewish community, it is a long held and sacred practice tied to a specific tradition, which is a little bit different. Not saying it's any less barbaric, but that's a decision for them to decide. It obviously means much more to them than the average American who circumcises because it's what their parents did. And what about us Jews whose parents decided to have us mutilated, who don't approve of having been mutilated and want our foreskin back? I guess fuck us because of some pointle…
/r/MensRights11/01/20 01:59 AM
1

Given that multiple of them were below 18, that would be legally problematic.
/r/PussyPass09/01/20 07:56 AM
2

She lied about rape, but that isn't her only crime. At least one of the boys whom she falsely accused and who video evidence confirms she had sex with, was below the age of consent in Cyprus. So she not only lied about rape, but actually committed rape herself. Moreover, multiple of the boys she falsely accused of raping her were below the legal drinking age, but she supplied them with alcohol before she fucked them. This sentence is a travesty.
/r/PussyPass09/01/20 07:52 AM
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I get the rationale; I'm merely suggesting that one can be a the age of consent, thus negating the statutory charge, while still being below the age of majority, hence the delinquency.
/r/MensRights06/01/20 11:44 PM
1

but not statutory rape? Age of consent in FL is 17, so it may be that none are young enough for statutory rape to be a valid charge.
/r/MensRights06/01/20 10:23 PM
1

I'm trying to be fair. Since I think the feminist push to classify intoxicated sex as rape is devoid of merit, I've intentionally avoided accusing her of rape. Since I regard a false allegation as a crime on par with rape, I felt the headline I selected to be adequate without devolving into hyperbole.
/r/MensRights06/01/20 10:22 PM
1

does the victim not deserve justice because they lied previously? In the criminal system, the biggest threat to justice is denial of the rights of the accused to a fair trial, including the ability to mount a proper defense. Since it is better to let a guilty man go free than to jail an innocent man, preventing a proper defense from being offered in the name of "justice" for the alleged victim is the very essence of injustice.
/r/MensRights27/12/19 10:15 PM
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By your own logic, since you are now also participating in an argument with him, you must also be unhappy. Perhaps in your case though, the issue is in relying on game to create a happiness that you'll never actually have.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/12/19 03:47 PM
1

As in dating or trying to sleep with people isn’t worth it? Correct. You can’t be serious? Guess you've never heard of MGTOW, or the Japanese herbivore men.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/12/19 03:45 PM
1

It advocates for short-term sexual relationships to avoid financial and judicial implications. You're confusing your take on MGTOW with the greater reality. Yes, some MGTOW simply eschew marriage and paternity, but there are quite a number of MGTOW who go beyond that and skip out on sex and dating entirely.
/r/MensRights16/12/19 10:20 AM
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In theory, yes. But she's an "actress," and not a successful one, so she doesn't have a reliable income. Now, of course if she were a man that would just mean going to jail, but since she has a vagina...
/r/MensRights09/12/19 11:59 PM
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I agree, though unfortunately New York law doesn't. Now, her child support request is incredibly bold, and would certainly test the limits of NY law.
/r/MensRights09/12/19 02:58 PM
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I did not. He makes $250k per year, she wants $120k per year, which is just under half.
/r/MensRights09/12/19 02:56 PM
1

so is a "small percentage", but imagine if he is poor. It isn't. He makes $250k, so she wants roughly half of his pre-tax income.
/r/MensRights09/12/19 12:53 PM
1

She has no custody, only supervised visitation...and still wants $3000 a month in child support, to supplement the $7000 a month in alimony (or technically maintenance at this phase) she feels owed.
/r/MensRights09/12/19 12:53 PM
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Don't get too excited; such proposals have been floated in numerous other European countries in recent years, and precisely zero efforts have come close to succeeding.
/r/MensRights04/12/19 01:43 AM
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It's true that you cannot expect anybody to support you, but you don't need to support any woman beyond what the government steals from you through taxation, and you can make strategic choices in your life to reduce said tax burden.
/r/MensRights28/11/19 08:42 PM
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And no one could deny women still face huge obstacles on the road to equality. I can, at least if we're talking about the UK. I'd like one actual, data-supported "huge obstacle" to equality that one face in the UK to be named. Because each one they invoked is easily debunked. Now, if you want to make that claim in somewhere like Afghanistan, where women going to school exposes them to the risk of being killed by the resurgent Taliban, that's potentially compelling, albeit almost certainly divorc…
/r/MensRights28/11/19 01:18 AM
1

In turn, I hope you are falsely accused of rape and have your life ruined. I mean, if it's good enough for Brown, surely it's suitable for you. Putz.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/11/19 01:55 AM
0

you should go to incel/mgtow subreddits That this is your response is precisely why people like me ought to participate here more often. MGTOW an incels are fundamental opposites, yet people like you foolishly group them together. That kind of defective thinking makes you sound no better than a feminist.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/19 03:01 PM
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If that's your way of taking it, so be it. If you like dealing with feminism, sweating over two decades of child support if the condom breaks, false rape accusations, wasting money on women, and a whole host of other issues, more power to you. But honestly, making your life about female approval, which you're necessarily doing by chasing pussy, is definitionally more cucked than not wasting one's time and resources on women.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/19 06:30 AM
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but maybe this hypothetycal scenario evolves into more single mothers and that situation it's not good for society. I say this because single mothers usually have a low salary, and that means less future opportunity for the children. And it is proven that with the absence of the father figure children tend to have more emotional problems The status quo does not, nor could society every practically, compel the alleged father to be involved in the actual parenting of a child. It can and does compe…
/r/MensRights23/11/19 05:17 AM
3

I'd still love to know how Sergia is doing as a strong, brave, retired woman. For those not in the know: https://www.dailywire.com/news/gender-equity-man-legally-changes-gender-so-he-can-james-barrett
/r/MensRights23/11/19 01:58 AM
2

For what it's worth, I think r/MensRights and r/MGTOW are much better conceptually, and the former also in practice (the latter being overly moderated).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/19 12:17 AM

Also, MGTOW is for cucks who gave up cuz getting laid takes effort. MGTOW is for men who perform a cost-benefit analysis and conclude that women are not worthwhile. Sure, "effort" is a part of it, but generally speaking a very small part of it. The looming threat of paternity and the associated financial destruction, the risk of false rape and/or dv accusations, the need to spend money on women that could be better deployed for other purposes, the expenditure of time trying to game women that co…
/r/TheRedPill23/11/19 12:09 AM
0

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/19 12:02 AM
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A good example is with politics, married white women vote right though single white women vote left, Correlation is not causation. It would seem perfectly plausible that the probability of a woman marrying is tied in part to her view of the institution of marriage, which likely aligns with religious and political beliefs. That is, if you're a family values conservative, you're likely to prioritize marriage and thus get married. If you're a militant feminist who thinks everything is patriarchal o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/19 11:58 PM
1

at least where I live, perjury is a serious criminal case. Im not from USA, fortunately. I'm not sure where you're from, but I can still say with confidence that you're incorrect. That is, by definition, perjury is lying under oath before a court of law. These women lied to other participants and/or producers of a game show. So again, unless you happen to live in somewhere like North Korea, this is still a civil offense, not the crime of perjury. Prosecutors can not. Thats why you dont vote for …
/r/MensRights19/11/19 02:11 PM
1

It has approximately a much credibility as would exist if I claimed right now that you raped me. So call it what you want, but I and millions of Americans are perfectly comfortable calling a completely unsubstantiated, conveniently timed partisan smear a false accusation.
/r/MensRights19/11/19 02:46 AM
1

Really? With literally zero evidence supporting her, three decades after the alleged incident and after he'd already been confirmed to the federal bench, she cries rape when it becomes clear he is otherwise poised to be confirmed to replace Kennedy. But we're told to take her outrageous allegations as fact, and we're told that she was brave and credible even by many defenders of Kavanaugh thanks to the nonsense MeToo movement. And now it goes to the absurd extreme of an organization that once ch…
/r/PussyPass18/11/19 04:16 PM
1

perjury? defamation? slander? Again, functionally these are civil matters. Technically criminal defamation exists in some states, but it is rarely ever charged because it is likely unconstitutional and is currently being challenged in court by the ACLU in a rare show of competence. trying to destroy his life, for a stupid reason? You have to come up with an actual crime. Law? Law can and should be changed to suit us. Okay, but what the law should be doesn't matter. Prosecutors cannot create new …
/r/MensRights18/11/19 04:10 PM
1

No crime there. Especially not worthy of suspension. You don't need to commit a crime to be suspended. In fact, I'd wager very few people who are suspended have broken an actual law. They have however broken a school rule or somehow interfered with the orderly operation of the school. Freedom of speech. She is protected. Correctly or not, the Supreme Court has held in the past that free speech rights can be limited in time and place, and has further explicitly ruled that they are limited for stu…
/r/PussyPass18/11/19 02:02 PM
2

If you listen to their complaints, or for that matter assume they possess even one iota of sense alongside their plethora of insanity, they very much wanted the movie in question to be made, but with a transperson playing the trans character role. After all, the whole push to mainstream this mental illness doesn't work especially well without media trying to normalize it within the cultural zeitgeist. So they overplayed their hand.
/r/MensRights16/11/19 01:04 PM
3

I imagine it'll be a long time, if ever, before the rejection of political correctness will be sufficient within academia to allow for thoughtful research on the matter, but I wonder to what extent this rapid onset gender dysphoria problem society is experiencing is driven by widespread misandry which gets internalized by neurodivergent and poorly parented young men. After all, MtF trans far outnumber the reverse, and a seemingly large swath of the trans community seems avowedly anti-male, so on…
/r/MensRights15/11/19 09:53 PM
1

Yes, but most people are incapable of exercising critical thought, and thus think as they are raised to think, which these days is in an SJW mindset that makes masculinity, heterosexuality, and whiteness all worthy of condemnation, and their opposites automatically worthy of celebration.
/r/MensRights15/11/19 09:48 PM
1

Either you're being a dishonest shill or you are fundamentally ignorant of the history of feminism. Neither is excusable.
/r/MensRights15/11/19 09:46 PM
1

As somebody not part of the alphabet soup, I enjoy reading /r/RightwingLGBT on occasion.
/r/MensRights15/11/19 09:45 PM
2

A woman who was made famous not because of any discernible acting talent, but because for some reason a large portion of the male population regarded her as being especially attractive, is upset about being valued for the only thing that gave her a career...shocking.
/r/MensRights15/11/19 09:43 PM
1

No. There are several of them, including Angelina Jolie, Charleze Theron, and Megan Fox (well, at a minimum she sent her son to school in a dress), but she isn't one. She did however have the audacity to plan to play a trans character, for which SJWs gave her endless shit, to the point that she withdrew from the role, thus killing the entire project, which no doubt was the opposite of what those entitled activist lunatics actually would've wanted.
/r/MensRights15/11/19 09:41 PM
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Not really, no. There is no federal criminal defamation law. Individual states do, in some cases, have those statutes on the books, but they are almost never used, not least because their ability to survive judicial review is highly dubious. In fact, criminal defamation is currently being challenged by the ACLU in Frese v. MacDonald. If they win, as they should, it will be the effective final nail in the coffin of the mostly moribund criminal defamation laws that technically exist but are almost…
/r/MensRights15/11/19 06:39 AM
1

Right, neither of those are criminal offenses though.
/r/MensRights15/11/19 05:47 AM
1

For what crime exactly? There is, except to the extent any contracts the contestants signed precluding it (which seems likely), a very sound basis for a civil suit. But I'm unaware of any crime that was committed.
/r/MensRights15/11/19 05:29 AM
1

I'm not sure why men would be upset about rapists being killed. Let's set aside opposition to the death penalty, which by the way is the prevailing belief of the developed world, as evidenced by the fact that nearly the whole of it has eliminated the practice. The killing being described here is of the vigilante sort. How would you feel if your innocent son was murdered by a lynch mob on the word of a lying woman? It has certainly happened numerous times throughout history, the most famous case …
/r/MensRights13/11/19 12:46 AM
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Do you imagine, based on her other life choices, that she'd make such distinctions?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/19 08:22 PM
8

Even setting the kid aside, a poorly raised daughter is likely to act out sexually and become the sort of pathetic woman ridiculed here, whereas there is a good chance a son raised in that same environment becomes a dangerous criminal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/11/19 12:14 AM
1

Don't flash money it's a turn off Zero percent chance this is true. Or rather, it may fail to be a turn on, but it's sure get her to try and attach herself like the leech she most certainly is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/19 12:50 PM
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It isn't even a matter of flirting, which she may well not have been doing. Basic etiquette suggests that if a group of all people have only one language in common, then conversation should stick to that language unless circumstances necessitate doing otherwise. We can reasonably assume that the hotel staffer spoke English, and that there was no reason she needed to engage him in Italian and thus isolate the boyfriend. But of course expecting basic decency from a woman is apparently proof that m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/11/19 11:43 AM
2

What's wrong with being liberal. Depends on whether one means liberal in the contemporary American sense of the classical British sense. Given both context and reddit's demography, I assume the former is meant. To that end, the answer is...everything, more less. Liberalism as it functions now in the US has literally nothing to do with individual rights, but about top-down social control and the negation of individual rights. It's cancel culture, the #MeToo witch hunt trials by mob rule, climate …
/r/PussyPassDenied30/10/19 11:21 PM
7

Hitting girls is vile. No more so than hitting men. One should never initiate violence, but one should also never accept it without responding in kind.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/10/19 08:01 PM
1

Such a valuable contribution to the discussion.
/r/MensRights19/10/19 11:14 PM
5

More about not punishing the child for stupid adults, although i do agree its stupid af Bullshit. If that's the standard, why shouldn't the state garnish your wages instead to support this random child? After all, given what they were taking out of his paycheck, he seems to be pretty poorly off, so there's a decent chance the child would be even better served by being supported by you than by this victim of paternity fraud and unjust laws.
/r/MensRights19/10/19 11:11 PM
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Why is it bad to have men's only/women's only spaces? Would you say the same thing if instead the segregation were along racial or ethnic lines? Personally, I'm a libertarian, and thus think private entities should have absolute freedom to discriminate, but should have the good sense and basic decency not to exercise said rights. However, what I think the law ought to be and what the law actually is are often different. I'm by no means an expert on Spanish law, but I'd be hard pressed to imagine…
/r/MensRights06/10/19 12:32 AM
1

Ironically enough, under the Wikipedia-article one of the former deputy Prime Minister's of Sweden was mentioned as an advocate in the combating of antisemitism. I don't think there's anything ironic about that, as literally nobody asserts that the whole of Sweden is anti-semitic, but rather that Sweden has a distinct problem with anti-semitism. I'm sure it isn't a topic you've thought much about or care much about, and that's fine. And if your very cursory skimming of the link I provided leaves…
/r/MensRights05/10/19 12:23 PM
1

It isn't anti-semitic to crticise israel That depends. Criticising Israel as one would any other nation is absolutely not anti-semitic. Demonizing Israel excessively or exclusively in a way one wouldn't/doesn't other nations is anti-semitic. That some criticism of Israel can and should qualify as anti-semitic is an uncontroversial position held by, among others, the US State Department. Though imperfect, the Three D's test proposed by Sharansky is a decent benchmark for differentiation.
/r/MensRights04/10/19 11:54 AM
1

To be clear, while Sweden has a serious anti-semitism problem - one both independent of its new Islamic migrant population and exacerbated by them - protecting the rights of Jewish and Islamic babies from parents who put religious tradition over bodily autonomy is categorically not circumcision. The Jewish community leaders there decrying this effort are in the wrong, and many of us who've lost a foreskin to this outmoded religious practice side unequivocally with the Center Party on this matter…
/r/MensRights04/10/19 08:25 AM
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Says the woman who went from international sex icon to ditch pig.
/r/PussyPass02/10/19 12:12 PM
1

Get a fucking grip. Nobody is putting you in an oven for being a man. The situation is not remotely comparable, despite contemporary society's anti-male attitude being indefensible.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 12:07 PM
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You need to be signed in, and have a verified email address, and click to agree to view its contents (the first time).
/r/MGTOW02/10/19 05:22 AM
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It's a small local weekly paper from New York that's been around since 1978. It isn't something people who live outside of the borough of Queens would have any reason to know exists, but nothing about them suggests they lack credibility. As you might imagine, while the subject is of interest to people in this sub, this is very much a local issue, to the point that even NYC residents outside of the few blocks of Queens immediately surrounding this shelter are largely unaware/indifferent, thus lim…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 12:20 AM
2

Invariably the rationale is always that they're worried about sexual predation and violence by the men. Insofar as the homeless population has an overrepresentation of ex-cons and the mentally ill, it is marginally less absurd a rationale than when used against men more generally. Though, as you point out, you can design the space in such a way as to separate the two populations within one facility if that is a concern. I would also suggest that even with a split, 50/50 doesn't make sense when d…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 12:04 AM
1

Maybe this might be a chance to find a better location for the men near the subway and near the needed services? Maybe, but there's no good reason to imagine that to be the case. Certainly this article makes no suggestion that alternative arrangements will be made for men. Resources are finite, and society prefers spending those resources on women over men, so I doubt something for men is forthcoming.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:59 PM
9

Well, trump is objectively terrible. I don't think somebody knows what this word means.
/r/MGTOW01/10/19 11:31 PM
1

It's supposition; there's no evidence to suppose it will happen, particularly given that TRP apparently got that message in error and has since been told they won't be banned. Given that this sub has thus far not even been quarantined, it seems unlikely that we ought to be overly concerned. That said, given the new rules update from the admins, as well as their basic admission that the policy application will be 100% subjective, and they are known to have a leftist/feminist bias, it wouldn't be …
/r/MGTOW01/10/19 11:28 PM
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Yes, but it has been quarantined for quite a while now. So there has been no change to their status.
/r/MGTOW01/10/19 11:26 PM
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Never. Society, and it doesn't really matter which one you talk about, as this is common to any I can think of, always has an accountability gap between men and women. We see it manifest in a range of ways, from the structure of social welfare programs, to the criminal prosecution and sentencing of convicts, to explaining away any metric where women fair worse than men as proof of institutional sexism against women.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:01 PM
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And, more to the point, men wouldn't want younger women if women didn't hit the wall. After all, older women hopefully have their lives more together, are in a better financial and professional position, and should theoretically have more in common with men of the same age. If their looks and fertility didn't fall off sharply, men wouldn't favor 18 year olds over 38 year olds. We know of course that this isn't the case, since men with the maximum potential choice like DiCaprio don't date older w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/19 11:41 AM
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The obvious defense one must invoke in that scenario is "what I was really saying is that Islam is the original feminist religion, and as we all know feminism is flawless and necessary." It doesn't withstand scrutiny, but there are Islam apologists in the West who, with a straight face, will make such claims. Because when I think women's rights, I think FGM and mandatory burkas, don't you?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/19 11:25 AM
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I wonder about the composition of that sub. I'd like to know how many actual contributors there are, as opposed to sock puppets to make their voices sound more numerous than they actually are. I'd further like to know what percentage of these women are obese cat ladies LARPing as successful/desirable women with their pick of men, so that they feel better about themselves. Of the remotely attractive ones, which I assume must exist given the number of crazy women that are physically attractive, I …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/19 11:21 AM
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I wonder how she'd respond to somebody like me, who was born Jewish and was circumcised for no other reason, but who resents having had my genitals mutilated in service to a religion that as an adult I do not practice or identify with.
/r/MensRights29/09/19 09:36 PM
1

But without any kids or someone to love all that shit is meaningless. Perhaps for women. Perhaps even some men. But we MGTOW would strongly disagree about the necessity of either thing.
/r/MensRights29/09/19 06:29 AM
2

I'd encourage you to go back and read the whole thing. The author of the piece takes a fundamentally pro-male position that ridicules the absurd and entitled attitude women take towards men and our money.
/r/MGTOW29/09/19 05:44 AM
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Any pregnancy starting at 35 is considered geriatric. Many women, including the author of this piece, are in denial about inconvenient biological realities. Mind you, I imagine your timeline is as inaccurate as the belief that she isn't too old for pregnancy to be irresponsible. I assume instead her strategy would be something like: Lie about her age, claim to be somewhere between 28 and 34, so that men don't totally write her off. Claim to be on birth control while lying, or poke holes in the c…
/r/MGTOW29/09/19 05:43 AM
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I always wonder, are the women who write this tripe: 1) Among the small number of women attractive enough for this to be a viable strategy, because they're overwhelmed with male attention from thirsty betas? or 2) Fat, bitter cat ladies who like to LARP as successful daters and want to trick other women into sharing their misery?
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 10:33 AM
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To be clear, these women didn't appear in said porn. Rather, they assumed behind the scenes creative roles and used other actors to make porn. So it's not as bad as you might guess from the headline and show title. It's just a bunch of naive, dumb feminists trying to make porn that haves the "values" they want imparted on what their kids watch, as though that is at all realistic.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 10:29 AM
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To pickup artists, why bother? You have the skills. You know these girls want more than what you offer. Go for the girl who knows what's going on. Additionally, sex in a relationship is much better. Why not foster something genuine, or at least not cause so much harm? Why exactly should such men care? They are interested in getting their needs met, just as the women on whose behalf you lament are motivated by self-interest. If the collateral damage is to another equally self-interested party, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 03:56 AM
3

Ignore the idiot with the two month old account who is trying to backseat moderate.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 01:33 PM
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Sure you're not thinking Charlize Theron? He wasn't. Or rather, while Theron has done that, so too has Fox. This came out just the other day, per: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/megan-fox-son-laughed-wearing-dresses
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 03:52 AM
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Because they aren't displaying their bodies for you, but for the hot guy they'll fuck as they wait for their beta provider.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/19 03:48 AM
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I can't speak to what is normal/tolerated within marriage in Japan, but I can tell you that their divorce laws make even the worst US state look positively reasonable by comparison. Joint custody is not a thing in Japan, so you can have a woman who files for divorce while she's pregnant, and the father never gets to meet his child, but has to pay support until said kid reaches adulthood, plus pay the mortgage on what had been the family home but from which he is now banished.
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 10:59 AM
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The 2nd Amendment was written in 1789. That's 230 years ago. That couldn't matter less. There is no sunset provision to the Second Amendment. There is no clause which limits weapons to those which existed in the era that it was written. And if one considers the historical context and intent behind it, there is no sound originalist basis for restrictions. Simply put, you are advocating that the Second Amendment be ignored, presumably because you realize that amending it through the proper procedu…
/r/MensRights20/09/19 01:51 PM
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She looks like a 40 year old who thinks that neon-colored hair allows her to pass for 22. It doesn't.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/19 08:12 AM
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But hey, what do context and the validity of the scientific method matter next to "muh guns", right? Even though you're being a sarcastic dick, you are in fact correct. Gun rights are set forth in the Constitution, and notably absent is any sort of clause that conditions their scope on scientific data. My right as a law-abiding citizen to keep and bare arms doesn't evaporate based on the number of violent degenerates who misuse guns.
/r/MensRights20/09/19 08:07 AM
1

I see somebody is too dense to take away the proper point of this posdt.
/r/MensRights20/09/19 07:09 AM
1

The real question is why are so utterly pathetic that you think a woman's looks are compelling enough to justify tolerating her psychotic behavior?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/19 10:54 AM
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Not even you can be dumb enough to believe that anybody will remember you, either on reddit or in life. You will forever remain unimportant, and spoken about only as a sad failure by the few people unfortunate enough to know you.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/19 08:42 AM
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and phone the police like society is fucking meant to function. Duluth Model means that it won't. If you have a dick an the other party does not, enjoy being arrested as the abuser, facts available to the police be damned (in most cases).
/r/PussyPass18/09/19 12:19 AM
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For years "food journalists" on the left complained that women were underrepresented on "The Worlds 50 Best Restaurants" list, so they created an award for the best female chef, and invariably that was decried as patronizing and tolkenization. So either one celebrates (relative) mediocre and is shamed for it, or one goes by merit and is still shamed for it.
/r/PussyPass16/09/19 11:55 PM
1

I've never seen a premium like that for domestic US flights. International, particularly on carriers worth a damn like Cathay Pacific or Air France? Absolutely. But if you're flying from ATL to MIA or BOS to IAD or ORD to MSP, it's maybe an extra $200-300 round trip.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 12:27 PM
1

I think in this particular case, pussy is not the primary factor behind their disparate treatment. Rather, Cosby had the audacity to speak critically of the behavior of members of the black community and tell them that their problems are of their own making, and the solution involved taking responsibility and making unpleasant but smart choices. By contrast, Cardi B is a garden variety hood rat who doesn't have a substantial thought in her head, who simply adheres to and reinforces the dysfuncti…
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 09:47 PM
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I get the anti marriage thing but anti intimacy is like not only are you submitting to fear and accepting defeat but you are also missing out on a lot potential good feelings Do you apply that standard elsewhere? Heroin provides quit a lot of good feelings, or so I'm told. But I assume you, like most people, opt not to start using heroin because you're capable of performing a cost-benefit analysis. Relationships with women ought to be subject to that same sort of scrutiny.
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 08:32 AM
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Many people don't marry though. Marriage is declining, but it remains the social norm. Moreover, you spoke about relationships working. Since most relationships terminate before marriage and people broadly aim to marry, it would seem that a relationship that "works" should be understood to refer to a marriage or lifelong domestic partnership. And marriages that don't end in divorce but probably should?? What? I can't imagine how this concept is confusing, but I'll clarify. Though divorce has bec…
/r/PussyPass08/09/19 11:31 PM
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Most adults manage to find relationships that work. Given the sky high rate of marital failure, and the number of marriages that don't end in divorce but probably should, that's quite the bold and demonstrably false claim. Your failure to do so is on you, nobody else. This rests of the faulty presumption of the desirability of relationships. Given the risk, which is in fact quite significant despite your contrary assertions, relationships would need to be pretty damn compelling to make that risk…
/r/PussyPass08/09/19 10:33 PM
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So then, not an actual argument, just a statement that you should ignore risk because you personally regard the risk as low.
/r/PussyPass08/09/19 10:17 PM
1

Do you have an actual counter argument to his position, or do you just want to laugh dismissively?
/r/PussyPass08/09/19 09:31 PM
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Please, do go on, and explain how either subreddit has anything to do with Nazism. I'm always excite to hear about how I, a Jew with family actually murdered by the Nazis, am a Nazi for championing such offensive positions as free speech and due process.
/r/MensRights08/09/19 09:27 PM
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They like to externalize their insanity and dictate the appropriate bounds of speech and thought for everybody else, so what could possibly be a more natural fit?
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 07:02 PM
1

Ironic that you think you occupy the moral high ground while making such pronouncements.
/r/MensRights08/09/19 06:53 PM
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There's a difference between free speech and hate speech, though No there isn't. This very European sentiment, aside from being at odds with US law, is at odds with the very definition of free speech. Freedom of speech is never needed to protect bland and uncontroversial speech, but the more outrageous ideas, including "hate speech." Of course the problem with "hate speech" is that there is no real objective definition. If, for example, I state negative truths about Islam, have I engaged in hate…
/r/MensRights08/09/19 06:46 PM
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It only means you can’t be arrested by the government for what you say. IG policing content on its site has nothing to do with free speech. I really dislike this common framing, because I believe it fundamentally understates and misrepresents freedom of speech. The First Amendment only applies to government and its semi-public agents, but freedom of speech is a concept which exists outside of the First Amendment that legally enshrines such protections. Freedom of speech is a value in and of itse…
/r/MensRights08/09/19 06:43 PM
1

I hope that beyond suing the false accusers, who no doubt will never face criminal liability, that they sue the school as well. Yes, the school may have had a duty to report as they cite in their own defense, but said duty does not excuse their repeated denial of his rights while he remained a student not convicted of anything. Whenever people extend the presumption of innocence to a man with multiple accusers, the default response is to say that even if one woman might lie, surely a group would…
/r/PussyPass02/09/19 10:50 PM
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Exactly. The author says "Maybe they're angry that #MeToo ever happened." Yes, as we bloody well should be. Were there some men who engaged in clearly criminal conduct who deserved to be held to account? Sure. But there were a whole hell of a lot more who were victims of entirely fabricated allegations, or were accused of conduct that if true is at worst objectionable but legal. And the accused, no matter their actual guilt or the severity of the accusation, were presumed guilty and in many case…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/09/19 02:47 AM
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I don't doubt she works at a think tank...all of them have secretaries and other minimally skilled low level administrative staff on the payroll. I've known a number of unremarkable women in their early to mid twenties who had $30k entry level jobs at a think tank performing the useless grunt work necessary to make the ship run for the more qualified policy scholars on the payroll.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/19 09:12 PM
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There are a number of countries with partial implementation, though you're right that none apply total classic sharia. But you'd be hard pressed to argue that there isn't sharia law in Iran, or in Aceh, or northern Nigeria. It remains the de facto reality in large pockets of Afghanistan, as it was the de jure law under the Taliban. Likewise, it practically exists in portions of Somalia too. And it very much applies in those pockets of the Levant that are still under the control of the Islamic St…
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 04:00 PM
1

I think it is less that, and more that women are never held accountable for their bad behavior, and thus they lack any obvious incentive to show basic decency. Some still do, but those not naturally disposed towards being proper humans are not compelled to exhibit better behavior by society.
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 07:45 AM
1

Counterpoint: Andy Ngo. Gay Asian. He once looked right when crossed a street and for that has been labeled alt right. Asians, much like Jews, are deemed white by identitarian leftists when they want to punish them for success or invalidate the invocation of model minorities that would present uncomfortable questions about lack of black and latino achievement. They only count as non-white minorities when it is necessary to assail their ideological opponents, namely when they wish to accuse someb…
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 07:42 AM
1

A book by a married man? Not exactly great MGTOW fodder.
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 12:10 AM
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That's a whole hell of a lot of work for little reward. The simple, logical choice is not to marry. Granted, that ship had already sailed for that fellow, and for some here. But if you are married, then no amount of looking for warning signs will mitigate the risk you already stupidly assumed by marrying.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/19 11:48 PM
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That's a terrible idea. Countries with sharia law suck for everybody, men included. Making men more miserable doesn't fix anything.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 11:28 PM
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Oh joy, more tradcon bullshit. AWALT. Religious women are not exempt.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 11:28 PM
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The law already calls for it, but the issue is enforcement of said law. For example, as written, the UK actually has the golden standard in this area. "Perverting the course of justice" carries up to life in prison. Zero women have gotten a sentence that severe. Rather, they tend to get something ranging from probation and a modest fine to a couple of years in prison in especially extreme cases. Holding women accountable like men are is a non-starter for most of society, so we're fucked.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 11:26 PM
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I think neither parent should have a legal right to it, nor should taxpayers be on the hook for parental leave. If individual corporations wish to offer it, that is their prerogative, though offering paid leave would make me less inclined to work somewhere, since I'd be subsidizing that benefit for others in the form of lower wages, despite knowing that I will never benefit from it.
/r/MensRights28/08/19 07:30 AM
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If they want their children circumcised that's their choice. i Legally, yes. Morally, no. We don't let parents cut off the pinky tips of their children like they're yakuza, nor do we let them tattoo their babies, yet somehow cutting off healthy penile tissue is their choice?
/r/MensRights28/08/19 07:12 AM
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By all means, if you want to fuck and flee with lower risk, get your rocks off abroad. But don't make the mistake of thinking that Latin women are any different from the women you meet in the US, or that any sort of ongoing entanglement is suddenly reasonable.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 07:09 AM
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So no data then. Just you suggesting that the election of people you dislike evidences ignorance. Please never vote. Better still, exit society and go live somewhere unsuited for human habitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 06:10 AM
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I'm up for a massive downvoting but isn't it chivalry when you take a girl out for a first date and pay for the meal? You say that like chivalry is supposed to be a good thing.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/08/19 11:47 PM
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What kind of incel shit is this? Yes, shame on a man for not behaving as a walking wallet.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/08/19 11:43 PM
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The whole "MGTOW obviously are just incels and can't ever go their own way because all they do is talk about women" criticism has always been profoundly stupid for two reasons (beside the obvious definitional problems of treating MGTOW and incel as synonyms): Insofar as the sole unifying premise behind MGTOW is a rejection of the social norms related to relations between men and women, and in particular the refusal to cohabitate, marry, or reproduce with women, what other subject naturally belon…
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 04:23 AM
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Why? His content includes a significant number of well-credentialed intellectuals getting to speak uncensored for 2-4 hours at a time. It is a major educational resource, or at least can be based on the episodes one opts to download.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 09:25 PM
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I’d like to see more of that content and not the “marriage bad woman bad” I've never understood this criticism of the MGTOW sub. There is much more to life than the stuff that dominates the discussion of said sub, but those things are not points of unity. Why do I care about some guy's picture of his new guitar? I'm not interested in guitars, so it is material to which I cannot relate on any level. By contrast, MGTOW men are united by an opposition to paternity, marriage, cohabitation, and the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 02:37 AM
1

Shocking that a quick peak at your comment history demonstrates that I was 100% correct in assuming you were an anti-semite trying to direct people towards conspiratorial nonsense.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 01:37 AM
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What does him being a Jew (and half Japanese) have to do with it? Theoretically nothing. What you've said about his vision and the written record of it is true. However, in context I've literally only every seen it brought up by white supremacists who emphasize his Jewishness and tie it in with a theory he never articulated, which is that this denationalization was motivated to enable a shadowy Jewish elite to dominate these identitiless people. If I was mistaken in assuming that you aimed to im…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 12:53 AM
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(1) The Kalergi Plan; Oh good, another person pushing retarded anti-semitic conspiracy theories.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 11:59 PM
2

Provided you can get it, sure. In the US, if you're single and childless, good bloody luck finding a willing urologist until you're around 30. And in a number of countries in the developed world, there are significant restrictions. For example, unless you have at least 3 children, you cannot legally get a vasectomy in Finland before the age of 30. In Hungary, childless men must wait until 40 to be eligible. In the Czech Republic, you cannot get a vasectomy at all unless you have at least three k…
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 11:30 PM
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Just your daily reminder that most judges are incompetent simps and #womenlieallthetime That isn't even the issue at hand here though. The judge's hands are tied by what the law actually is, and the law doesn't give a single damn that he was tricked into paternity. It holds him responsible, and thus so too must the judge. Reformation needs to come through the legislature, not from judges ignoring their sworn duties and creating law from the bench.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 11:24 PM
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wife material No such thing.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 08:53 PM
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What you're saying should be true, but it demonstrably isn't. There's a ceiling on the quality of men those women will attractive, but provided they're willing to "settle," there is always a sufficiently desperate beta who'll sign up, and not just for a one night stand.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 08:52 PM
3

Crazy notion: if you find their content to be laughable, you aren't the target audience, and therefore your opinion on how the language ought to be reformed is entirely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:31 PM
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The judge for the case was John Harrow. He retired back in January 2016, so he has no job to lose. Interestingly enough, this terrible (albeit legally reasonable given the nature of English law) decision notwithstanding, he doesn't appear to be a total nitwit. He's involved with something called The Marriage Foundation, which claims to "confront the scourge of family breakdown by championing long-lasting, stable relationships within marriage." While obviously from my MGTOW perspective marriage a…
/r/MensRights19/08/19 05:25 PM
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I don't disagree, but mob violence is hardly a preferable alternative. It isn't like a mob can just jail her for a decade.
/r/MensRights19/08/19 05:18 PM
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I don't think you want that, as historically the people who'd be on the receiving end of that violence are men, and quite often at the direction of women for very dubious motives. That is, false rape accusations are terrible enough in 2019, but not all that long ago it led to men getting lynched.
/r/MensRights19/08/19 05:17 PM
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Shocking that people too stupid to appreciate the merits of MGTOW also demonstrate a fundamental ignorance of the law. You should absolutely have a will, because the alternative is enriching the state. And much as I have <insert bank here>, the government is always worse.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 08:51 PM
1

What's that pictured on the left of the middle row?
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 08:48 PM
1

Insofar as biological males who identify as transwomen set all sorts of women's sports records, and Bruce Jenner was named woman of the year, all available evidence suggests that men are better than women at everything, including being women.
/r/MensRights18/08/19 08:46 PM
1

"Women have traditionally had to cook" You mean under the "patriarchy" you feminist twats harp on about endlessly? Aren't we supposed to be smashing that and subverting gender roles per feminist doctrine?
/r/MensRights18/08/19 08:44 PM
1

Oh look, a woman trying to tone police a man and silence him for saying something unflattering about women. <shockedpikachuface.jpg>
/r/MensRights17/08/19 11:38 PM
1

I don't know about the rest of the world, but at least in the US, those sort of signs lack the force of law. So you can just park there if you so choose, sans pregnant woman.
/r/MensRights17/08/19 11:33 PM
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Ironically, though they do not realize it, in not getting a date with her, they are winning, at least relative to the sap who has to spend more money and time on her.
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 09:12 PM
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No India isn't a clown country. Yes it is. "He's just pandering" isn't a valid defense. The absurd 498A laws, the free transit in Delhi, the free sex-based education promises, the massive open air defecation issues, the lack of accountability for hijras who kidnap and castrate little boys, the criminalization of cow slaughter in certain areas, the veneration of weird religious con men, and the bathing in the shit and corpse infested Ganges are just a few of the seemingly endless list of proof th…
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 03:33 PM
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Since the OP was removed, to read it: https://snew.notabug.io/r/relationships/comments/cqvqsp/my_boyfriend_22m_doesnt_want_to_marry_me_22f/
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 02:49 PM
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Were you trying to do the whole (((Mother))) thing here? Are you Jewish or something? I feel 100% certain she is not one of us.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/19 02:29 PM
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Im not saying that its impossible.,. but have you ever been put in the situation where you were LEGITIMATELY threatened by a chick? No, but to be fair, I also have a policy of not permitting women in my home, nor do I spend time in the homes of women (MGTOW). So by that standard alone, the risk is dramatically narrowed. But then, by that very consequence, a woman who is in my home is an intruder, and intruders get shot. I mean have you ever hit a girl before? like justifiably blood all over the …
/r/PussyPassDenied16/08/19 02:21 PM
1

And that's the proper mentality to have. You should be willing to use force, up to and including lethal force, if doing so is necessary as a matter of self-defense. But one should never seek out violent confrontation, and where circumstances allow, verbal deescalation is greatly preferable to violence. Because even when you win in a fight, chances are you'll wind up at least somewhat injured and/or dealing with some measure of legal hassle.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/08/19 10:06 PM
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Hey, your Dad's an Old School gentleman. You have to give him a bit of slack on this. You really don't. Excusing away outmoded ideas as acceptable based on the age of the person espousing them only helps to perpetuate said bad ideas. They should be aggressively confronted whenever voiced.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/08/19 10:03 PM
1

Even if it's going on in your house.. just get out of there and then call it the end of that. Castle doctrine, bitch. For the most part if a woman is coming at you with a knife she wants you to acknowledge her anger. Either you done fucked up by not doing that already or by realizing that it was time to call that relationship over with. The "why" doesn't matter. I have a right not to be stabbed. If some crazy bitch feels otherwise, I value preserving my life over her's. they get a radio call and…
/r/PussyPassDenied15/08/19 10:01 PM
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Sure. Given the absurd and misleading message sent by the media on this topic, her reaction is not only unsurprising, but "responsible." However, that doesn't make the suggestion any less offensive to a normal man who wouldn't drug and rape somebody. So it is equally if not more reasonable to throw her out following her conduct.
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 09:44 PM
2

You fundamentally misunderstand a few things. Patriarchy, which obviously doesn't exist, is something they regard as innate, and which you benefit from and participate in by merely existing as a man. That you eschew dating and romance merely removes you from one aspect of an all-encompassing system of oppression. Moreover, while they may term masculinity as toxic, what they really mean is any and all male behavior that does not serve women and/or feminism. So asserting your self-interest by refu…
/r/MensRights15/08/19 09:35 PM
1

"While you have successfully built him up." Not even that bitch is dumb enough to believe what she's saying.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 07:19 PM
10

Nobody wants Americans, besides if you emigrate you realize you still have to pay American income tax when you earn money abroad? You have to disclose your foreign bank accounts and report your income, but if you make less than the annual foreign earned income exemption, which I believe is about $110k at present, you pay no taxes. If he's moving to Poland or Hungary, chances are he'll be making well below $110k. If, by some chance he does, then you are correct that he would owe taxes based on an…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 01:14 PM
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I was already MGTOW, but it pushed me from "casual sex is fine" to "begone THOT."
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 09:43 PM
12

Marry a girl from Poland then. A horrible idea. Even if one starts from the faulty premise that Polish women in 2019 are materially different from other Western women, the problem which cannot be overcome remains the same: family law. The laws in any country you'd care to live in stack the deck again men.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 07:49 PM
1

Other than you can't really inform those that don't see reality the same way. I don't know how true that is, given that nobody is born MGTOW. Certainly I can attest to the fact that one of my closest friends was as blue pilled as could be when we first met, and while he hasn't yet made the leap to MGTOW, he has broadly come to be redpilled. I planted the seed, but it took him having more life experiences and getting additional outside perspective for it to take root. Perhaps that will happen wit…
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 10:51 PM
1

It's a copyright-based georestriction, not something based on the content.
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 10:33 PM
26

I'd never read a radfem take on adoption before...holy fuck.
/r/PussyPass11/08/19 09:53 PM
3

I think it's fine. I appreciate the argument that doing so trivializes the unique evil of the Nazis, but at this point, the whole of society has done that by accusing anybody to the right of Joe Biden of being a member of the SS. And, if you consider some of the most extreme feminists - women like Dworkin and Solanis - I do think that the Nazi comparison isn't entirely without merit in the first place.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 12:18 PM
1

Any man who marries these days is a fool. Change marries to cohabitates and I'd agree, especially in a country like Canada, where Quebec aside you can accidentally find yourself in a common-law equivalent to marriage through very simple accident. For example in Ontario where this was under consideration, living together for three years while dating has that effect, but a number of provinces require even less time cohabitating to doom you financially.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 12:11 PM
1

Hopefully this was the MGTOW wake-up call you needed. If not, I implore you to at least consider abstaining from women until you're able to get a vasectomy (assuming you don't want children ever, and given both the law and what you've said, that seems logical), which at 19 is going to be bloody hard to obtain.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 12:07 PM
2

While as a general proposition that is sound for Salon, this is an almost two-decade old article by Cathy Young actually advocating for the rights of men, not the signature Salon SJW shit.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 12:02 PM
2

Lawyers Accused of misconduct Should Be Guilty Until Proven Innocent in Court Just an FYI, but depending upon the type of "misconduct" you mean, lawyers don't generally see the inside of a court. Most misconduct is a complaint made to the state bar association membership in which is mandatory, unlike the unrelated and totally political ABA. And in that context, an ethics committee of state bar members evaluates the claims against you relative to the Rules of Professional Ethics.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 12:00 PM
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Not to point out the obvious, but many lawyers are against this, whether they practice criminal law or a totally unrelated area of law. In fact, most of us are not members of the ABA, and their grotesque political activism is a big factor in that.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 11:55 AM
2

Of course ironically, Title IX was never meant to have anything to do with sexual assault or rape. Nor was it even intended to regulate athletic programs as it was identified with for decades. Rather, the original purpose of Title IX, which is clear from reading it, was to disallow the use of gender quotas from academic programs, to address a norm that was already falling out of favor when Title IX became the law, which was to cap the number of women admitted to various educational programs. And…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 11:54 AM
1

Your question assumes that people argue based on facts and logic, and not emotion, and that the people to whom their argument is directed are also logical. I do not think reality supports that. To be sure, a large contingent of feminists know nothing about the wage gap beyond a very misleading bullet point or two they've seen retweeted. That group notwithstanding, the feminist argument that ignores the data they've seen is reliant on two things. First, that there is an audience who is either ign…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 11:50 AM
0

Color me shocked that somebody who not only makes fundamentally ignorant statements about the law, but further insists upon their correctness to the very death, and who evidences a questionable degree of literacy, cannot differentiate between MGTOW and incel.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 11:41 AM
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Child support is NOT governed under a prenuptial agreement. I said that, you dense bastard. The point I made was that because child support cannot be regulated in a prenup, even if a prenup were to be upheld by a court, it is essentially meaningless, since child support awards often function as a backdoor alimony mechanism. Unlike you, I actually know WTF I'm talking about. Right, I'm sure somebody with next to zero reading comprehension and zero legal background has a better grasp of the law th…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 01:13 AM
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she looks like a trap house ho, wtf how is she a teacher Who the hell do you think is working in most US public schools? It isn't a selective field. It attracts low-skilled people who want white collar work and job security without being required to be competent or work long and hard.
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 11:48 PM
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Don't need to wait three years; minors can be ordered to pay child support, though he fails to, they'll go after his parents rather than jail him at this age. But you are correct, the courts in the US have continually upheld making statutory rape victims pay child support.
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 11:46 PM
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Lots of things are illegal but ethical. Right, but I'm not making a judgement as to the morality of hiding money; I'm speaking to the risks associated with getting caught.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 11:42 PM
1

You really don't know what you're talking about, just based on the way you frame points 2 and 3,as though they are not so exceptionally broad as to give judges unlimited latitude. Moreover, because of the whole child support issue, prenups are fundamentally worthless, since it often functions as backdoor alimony given the lack of accountability and size of many such awards.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 11:37 PM

Prenups are routinely invalidated, and thus provide false comfort more than anything. The only solution is to avoid marriage and cohabitation.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 08:46 PM

Depends on if your wife is a good person or not really because not all women are the same. Not the point, and it never has been. Dating is one thing, but there's no benefit specific to marriage that is unavailable to dating. And the risk of marriage is a function of the law, not of the woman. So he is correct in saying that marriage represents pure risk for men.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 08:44 PM

I agree that sex is not owed, but if he goes elsewhere why is it grounds for divorce. "Grounds for divorce" is a thing of the past. All 50 US states have no-fault divorce, and several offer no-fault divorce exclusively.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 08:41 PM
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It is still her body, and her choice. If someone has a different opinion, please inform me. Well, most of history would disagree. Rightly or not, "marital rape" is a very new concept in human history. The laws as written historically never recognized the notion that sex within a marriage, regardless of the details, could ever be illegal. Indeed, most major religions similarly regard sex as an absolute marital duty.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 08:40 PM

Sell the house, downsize, destroy and/or hide the assets while in marriage so there is fuck-all to divide. Hiding assets is bad advice. Not only is it illegal, but if discovered, the courts will punish the shit out of you. There was one case, the name escapes me at the moment, where a woman won tens of millions in the lottery just before filing for divorce, and hid it from her husband and never disclosed it during divorce. The end result was the court awarding the entire jackpot to the man.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 08:37 PM
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But any North American man who marries in this day and age is a damned fool. Which most people are. They operate under the delusion that they are somehow special and unique, and their marriage won't be one of those that fails, and thus there is no reason to not conform with social norms.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 08:33 PM
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Yup, my mistake, though I suppose it really does work either way.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 08:53 PM
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It isn't sexist. He could mean one of two things, both of which are true. Either he is pro-life and talking about abortion, in which case women commit 100% of the murder in question. Or he's talking about parents who kill the children who were carried to term, in which case the statistics show that women make up the overwhelming majority of people who kill their own kids.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 06:40 PM
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I love when idiot leftists respond with "but muh Nordics." Denmark, Sweden, and Finland all rank in the top 20 of the Economic Freedom Index compiled by the Heritage Foundation (and Switzerland, which you mentioned, is #4). They also happen to have a very generous social welfare system, which by they way they've been scaling back out of necessity, because it turns out that there is a limit to how much of other people's money you can redistribute successfully. But Denmark and Sweden don't even ha…
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 06:33 PM
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To be fair, if the US actually pursued white collar crimes this probably would not be the case. Let me guess, you're the sort of person who wants to "jail the banksters" but can't actually cite any laws the executives whose scalps you hope to collect actually broke.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/08/19 06:25 PM
1

Why?? We're talking about people who would like to be in a couple, here. Why would you discourage that? If you met a heroine addict, and they were complaining about their inability to score heroine, would you tell them that you're sure they'll be able to get some soon, or would you encourage them to seek treatment? There are plenty of great women out there who are fair minded, honest, not feminists and who want a strong and happy man by their side. 100% not the point. Women represent needless ri…
/r/MensRights08/08/19 06:13 PM
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That's punishment enough. No the hell it isn't. Among other things, it assumes she has a properly functioning conscious, which her actions and subsequent words seem to contradict. Get some empathy for people, Ive done plenty of dumb shit when I was 16, we all have. I don't know about you, but my idea of "dumb shit" a teenager did that can plausibly be excused as a youthful indiscretion doesn't extend to shooting somebody in the head. If indeed you did that, then you also belong in prison, and it…
/r/PussyPass08/08/19 04:45 PM
1

What a well thought out point.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 10:26 AM
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she doesn't have zero sex drive, don't let media fool you, women are just as horny as men, I don't disagree as a proposition; but there is wide variation at the individual level. Just as there are men with near-zero sex drive, there are women like that too. I'm not saying that it is the most likely explanation, and as I said, the explanation doesn't make the reality any more bearable for her unfortunate husband, nor do I think it justifies her failure to uphold her part of the marital bargain.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 07:38 AM
1

I didn't make a statement of opinion though, just one of fact. That you are unable to distinguish between the two isn't at all surprising given the low quality of your comments generally.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 04:30 AM
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$80k? You think she went to a state school? No, like any good feminist she went to an unranked liberal arts college with no name recognition, because she wasn't smart enough for Vassar or Middlebury, but she wanted to live in scenic New England removed from the evils of STEM subjects and fraternities.
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 08:30 PM
1

Take no fap into the context of OPs post. discipline in this case is not 'nothing' and it's not 'irrational' when it stops you from wasting money on god damn escorts and prostitutes. Right, but I'm not seeing how it does that, not least because the idea behind NoFap at the genesis of the community was to avoid masturbation so as drive men to pursue women for sex. Masturbation provides the sexual relief that makes prostitutes seem like an obvious waste.
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 08:25 PM
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Also I'm happy with my "mutilation" and I'm glad you're happy with more skin on your penis. I think you've missed the point...I don't have my foreskin, but I want it back.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:55 PM
1

I understand what Semite/Semitic means, but the term "anti-semite" was specifically coined with reference exclusively to Jews.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:52 PM
0

And sure there's a case for WWI. For one, Germany murdered 128 US civilians by sinking the Lusitania You mean when it was clear that the US was shipping arms on passenger vessels? That makes them fair targets. So the US is totally at fault for that.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:51 PM
1

This dumb question is asked and answered many times whenever this topic arises. The simple answer is the fact that you're okay with having been mutilated does not render the practice acceptable. And the fact that the law treats men and women differently on this matter makes it a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:47 PM
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Idk, more of a parents rights issue imo. Then your opinion is stupid. Would you be okay with a parent choosing to cut off their child's pinky finger? Or how about getting them a Rick & Morty tattoo on their abdomen? A baby can't consent. And that's the fucking point. We empower parents to make necessary medical decisions for their child, but giving them license to mutilate their genitals for cosmetic, social, or religious reasons is obscene. The fact that FGM is illegal in every civilized countr…
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:46 PM
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I guess I love my wife (and gf’s) more than you And what do you say to MGTOW, who eschew women?
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:40 PM
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The US is, thankfully, a relative anomaly among the developed world. Israel is obviously in an even more extreme position. And Canada and South Korea had extremely high rates in the 20th century, mostly due to US influence, but their rates appear to be dropping substantially. So at this point it is only the default in the US, Israel, and a bunch of developing nations you'd never want the misfortune of living in.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:38 PM
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It is, but the point is that the practice alluded to by that comment - metziza b'peh, is as fringe as it gets. I was, at one point, a Haredi (ultra-orthodox) Jew. I met a ton of different Haredim belonging to different sects. At no point did I ever encounter somebody who received, witnessed, or participated in that grotesque and indefensible ritual. There are no firm numbers on the practice, but I'd be shocked if even 1% of Jews were involved with Metziza B'Peh. Ask the average American Jew abou…
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:35 PM
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Jews act like they are the only Semitic people. I don’t even acknowledge the term antisemitic when used in context with Jews because it implies that if you don’t like Jews you must not like all Semitic people. Sorry, but this is just you being an idiot. The term was literally invented by a Jew hater with specific and exclusive reference towards Jews.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:31 PM
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Conscription and voting are intertwined. Tell that to women and the disabled. If you're not going to defend the country, why should you get to tell it what to do? If you're going to weasel out of protecting the country, why should you vote? I missed the part where I said I cared about the vote. My political position is too much of a fringe to ever carry the day as it is, so voting is just a matter of picking which shitty option is the least shitty. I attach literally zero value to my right to vo…
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:28 PM
1

illicitly I don't think you know the meaning of that word, unless you can cite how those drafts were illegal, but prior drafts were not. And in any event, that is you imputing moral values on our past wars, but your opinions are not fact. Even if you could make a case for WWII, which I think is a stretch given the way the US goaded Japan into attacking first, there really isn't a compelling case for American participation in WWI. I would also argue that since the War of Northern Aggression (and …
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:13 PM
1

And the fact that politicians have used the draft illicitly in two wars is not an argument against its existence. It's been more than two wars.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 04:55 PM
1

I did sign up, but you can be certain I wouldn't have served if it came down to it. Such is the benefit of being a multinational; I'd have happily cut ties with the US before dying for it over some stupid war like Vietnam. Also, to be clear, I don't want it to do anything for me, other than leave me the hell alone, which it doesn't do. But as to why it "should" do anything for me, I'll go with "because it claims an entitlement to my money, and is all too happy to take it under threat of incarcer…
/r/MensRights07/08/19 04:53 PM
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File a police complaint. Yes, there is a bias against males in such cases, but what's the alternative? Your school is ignoring your reports. I would also suggest escalating your complaints within the school system; if teachers ignore it, report it to the principle, and if the principle ignores it, go over their head to the superintendent.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:48 PM
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While you can see the programmation, you cannot escape it. You coodled them. Would you say the same to a man in that age and situation ? No, you would urge him to get in shape and enlarge his social circle. I think you raise a good point, though I would hope that if a man expressed these sentiments the response would more MGTOW in nature, dissuading men from being unduly invested in coupling with women.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:44 PM
1

Okay, but discipline for its own sake, when it involves the surrender of pleasure in exchange for nothing, is irrational. And presumably there are plenty of other ways where one can, should, or must exercise discipline, for which there is obvious utility in doing so. Thus, even if you want to argue that discipline has value on its own, that value can be satisfied elsewhere, can it not?
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 12:30 PM
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Not justifying anything but lord knows my thoughts as a 17 yo teen. I'm sure I'll get a lot of hate and yes, wrong is wrong, just thought we shouldn't be too quick to pass judgment. I mean, isn't that what men's rights are all about? The way I would respond is this: Yes, we who were once horny teenagers can all well imagine that we'd have been excited to find ourselves in that position, and by that metric it is hard to fathom that the minor in question is a victim, especially if they were otherw…
/r/MensRights07/08/19 07:21 AM
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Start No fap. Why? What's the MGTOW case for abstaining from masturbation when the alternative is involving oneself with women, which is obviously worse?
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 06:23 AM
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The actual story: Hayley Reneau, 23, of Washington was arrested Monday (Aug. 5), according to a release from the Washington Police Department. The charge is a class 1 felony. “The charge alleges that Reneau held a position of trust, authority, or supervision in relation to the victim, and the victim is at least 13 years of age but under 18 years of age,” the release said. According to the release, the WPD is not releasing any additional information in the case. … What the OP appears to have scre…
/r/MensRights07/08/19 06:17 AM
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Everyone was happier when women stayed at home and kept house. Hard pass. I don't know about you, but I have zero desire to provide for a woman. Even if we turned back the clock on divorce, such that it was a rare thing with fault required for the collection of alimony, it still would be an unattractive proposition. But if we held to your standard of women being excluded from the workforce, that would prove an impossibility in the face of rightfully diminishing rates of marriage, because they'd …
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 05:56 AM
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This is horrible, but on the other hand, death is preferable to marriage, so he may have gotten off lightly.
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 05:50 AM
1

Is this just petty or should I leave an Anonymous tip? Both. Seriously, it probably is petty, but she's also wasting the tax money of society's productive members, so fuck her.
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 05:42 AM
1

Uh huh, and when no one wants to go to war to protect the country from an existential threat, the country ceases to exist. So what? A country that cannot enlist sufficient willing citizens to defend it when its very existence is at risk is a country not worth defending. Moreover, it ignores that the draft has historically been to fight wars that were entirely unnecessary, at least if our discussion is focused on the US.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:37 AM
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Did you read everything else I’ve said? I did. But claiming to be an MRA and actually being one are very different matters. And when you reinforce the notion of male disposability, whatever you are, it isn't an MRA. and also I just don’t understand the logic of thinking the best method to win large scale global conflict would be women on the front lines as men are in general have a higher physical potential. Do you think the only function of a draft is to fill combat roles? Because if so, you're…
/r/MensRights07/08/19 02:31 AM
1

.......who said anything about being incarcerated? You. Or did you forget the part where you said, "I think everyone should be required to do some sort of service for two years?" If there is no threat of legal penalty for non-compliance, then it cannot be classified as required. Maybe that was a misstatement on your part in the earlier post, and you meant to say "strongly incentivized." So a good example would be a program like teach for America ( with more training, because while the incentive …
/r/MensRights07/08/19 01:12 AM
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My wife Get the fuck out of here. And if you called our kid's a "utility" in front of her she'd beat your ass and I'd allow it. Well then, it looks like you married trash. Resorting to violence over being offended is the hallmark of human worthlessness. A woman wronged you once so you condemn the entire gender? I don't know what brought you here, though this demonstrates that you've failed to grasp what this sub is about. The issue isn't about any one woman or any singular experience. Rather, MG…
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 12:37 AM
1

Okay, but when you are forced under threat of incarceration into service, and you must accept whatever pay they choose to give rather than being able to negotiate and walk away, it is still slavery.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:15 AM
1

I'm not on the cusp of anything. By your standards, I no doubt long ago qualified as being radicalized. But so be it. Society treats men as disposable, and all of its laws and social norms are based around privileging women for the mere reason that they are women. My self-interest is of greater consequence to me than some outmoded notion that women need protection and are deserving of special consideration from men.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:06 AM
1

Like. I’m not saying they decide what you do. Only that there are tons of services and you would pick one. That doesn't make it any better. "Choose your own slavery adventure" is just putting lipstick on a pig.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:03 AM
1

The number one job of government is the protection of the state. Wrong. Its duty is to protect the people from threats both foreign and domestic. Ordering an unwilling civilian to go die is at direct odds with that purpose.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:57 PM
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We've heard your argument made many times before, and usually more competently. It is still a bad argument, and you don't need to be libertarian to take issue with a sex-based draft. The fact that men are stronger is immaterial, because the overwhelming majority of military roles are non-combat. During the Korean War, the US drafted doctors, but relied upon volunteers for nurses. Why? Because especially at that time, doctors were almost exclusively male, and nurses were almost exclusively female…
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:54 PM
1

but being part of the draft is part of being an American So women aren't American? People who've aged out of the draft window aren't American? and having pride in your national pride. Okay, you can feel free to go and die for some sense of pride. But even fighting in a war I believed in would be a hard sell, and I sure as hell didn't/wouldn't have believe(d) in the overwhelming majorities of wars in which the US has participated, including every single war in which there has been a successful fe…
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:49 PM
1

It wouldn't be out of place there, but it most certainly belongs here too. Since men alone are subject to Selective Services registration, this is fundamentally a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:40 PM
2

Even if you pursue this shitty line of argument, it is categorically illegal to not be enrolled in the Selective Services if you are a male between the ages of 18 and 25. So "sign up to surrender your liberty and die for your country at our discretion or we'll throw you in jail now" is sure as fuck blackmail.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:38 PM
1

Yeah that’d be fine. Then you're a part of the problem, and most certainly not an MRA. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:33 PM
1

A comment further down explains that only professionals or volunteers should be drafted. That's not really a draft then, is it? Which of course if what many of us want.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:30 PM
1

Our women need us Okay, but why exactly should I care what women need?
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:26 PM
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Pro-tip: if you want to sneak in your valueless and idiotic anti-semitism in otherwise proper criticism of an entitled feminist cunt, you need to do your Jew brackets right, and that involves three on each side, not two.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 09:16 AM
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Who cares if they get upset at not being helped? There is no upside to helping strange women. If, for whatever reason, there are women in your life you care about like a mother or sister, then by all means help them to the degree that doing so is reasonable and doesn't unduly burden you. But a woman needs something off of a high shelf at the store or changing her tire on the side of a country road? That's a her problem.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 09:14 AM
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"Neglect rape." Stop giving them ideas.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 09:12 AM
1

To be fair, title notwithstanding, the body of the post seems to suggest that "travel" refers to spending her whatever natural semester breaks medical school has in her home country, which is a far cry from roaming from hostel to hostel tossing her sloppy vagina at random German backpackers.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 12:17 AM
1

and I'm definitely worth more than a fucking career as a doctor. Probably not, but who cares? She can insist that you don't give up on the relationship, but her insistence is meaningless. Even if she were to forego her current plans, do you really want to ruin your life with marriage and kids, which is what she's proposing a few years down the road. I'd hope not. To which end, you should've already extricated yourself independent of her actions.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 12:15 AM
1

Being able to press your own body weight is the minimum standard of strength in a man. By which standard, surely even a "fat tub of shit" should generally be able to life HALF of their body weight, hence my point.
/r/PussyPass06/08/19 12:11 AM
3

What she doesn't mention is that her youngest kid has down syndrome or autism or the like, as becomes appreciably more common among women giving birth at 40+.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/19 11:37 PM
1

That is relative to his weight though, isn't it? In other words, you would expect somebody who weighs 300+ lbs to be able to bench that much with relative ease, but not necessarily somebody who weighed half that.
/r/PussyPass05/08/19 11:34 PM
1

I have to admit that water helped me move the patients. That, and a paramilitary police unit is pretty different from lifeguarding.
/r/PussyPass05/08/19 11:32 PM
1

How'd your scallops turn out? Such a pain in the ass to get the right consistency.
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 12:46 PM
1

Because in certain fucked up circles, victimhood is a social currency, and having been raped makes one the ultimate victim in the eyes of such people. It's so much easier than having to demonstrate worth as a human being. And since women who make such lies are almost never held accountable, and when they are the penalties are minuscule, there's little reason not to lie, as they give zero fucks about anybody other than themselves.
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 06:42 AM
3

Let's be honest, even cutting her off is unlikely to end that. The sort of woman who threatens suicide for the attention is unlikely to take a simple "you're dumped" as an answer.
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 06:37 AM
0

because well, there's only so long any of us can go without at least periodically attempting to search for something worth finding out there. False. If this experience hasn't yet convinced you, perhaps your next future attempt will do the trick.
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 06:34 AM
4

Some people just need to be humbled super hard That definitely isn't going to happen. Instead, this will be a story they bring up when they want to talk about how "men are trash." Obviously they were the victims, having been hit by men, because no female violence is ever sufficient to justify hitting back in the eyes of entitled cunts like this. She may be less apt to hit somebody directly, but she'll just outsource her violence to a man, since we all know how many white knight retards are all t…
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 06:23 AM
1

It's possible you were a victim of discrimination, but common sense suggests that this was more than likely just bad luck, as such things happen to nearly anybody who travels enough.
/r/MensRights05/08/19 06:13 AM
5

I did, because it happens here in Australia too And the UK. And New Zealand. I assume that happens in other countries too, but these three are the big, publicly known sexists.
/r/MensRights05/08/19 06:11 AM
35

Come now, she'd have been a partner at the best law firm in Arkansas. So she'd be successful, just not successful enough for anybody to know who she was or give a damn about the nonsense she's spent decades spewing. Actually, turns out she didn't make partner until her husband was Governor, so I gave her too much credit.
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 01:19 PM
1

So in your reality, I as a Jew should pay taxes at the high rate I do, and receive no benefits because I'm not white? In that scenario, why would I continue to be economically productive to the benefit of society at large?
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 06:30 AM
5

had to finance another one, had to bail out my sister with $800 because she got into a fight with my parents. You absolutely did not. That was a choice. And a bad one at that.
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 06:25 AM
5

1) How the hell would that work? Surely you're not proposing, for example, that only males receive public education? 2) Theft isn't suddenly justifiable if the only beneficiaries are male. Government redistribution of wealth from the productive to the less productive or unproductive is wrong.
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 06:18 AM
1

This is more centered around race than gender. But it isn't. The gender sentencing disparity is much larger than the racial sentencing disparity.
/r/PussyPass04/08/19 06:15 AM
7

Still not a great analogy, in that the guards at Auschwitz obviously fucking were evil, whereas the average man being divorced by his former cumdump isn't.
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 06:06 AM
14

She's never under any real threat of violence, starvation, exposure... You're obviously wrong...women are the primary victims, even war, when it is the men in their lives dying; so sayeth Hillary Clinton, the rightful President of the United States. And even though society puts women first at every turn and makes countless social welfare programs available to women preferentially or exclusively, and even though men are the primary victims of all forms of violence but far less likely to ever rece…
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 06:01 AM
3

Get back to drinking Belle Delphine's bath water and leave the discussion to people who don't represent the nadir of humanity.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/08/19 05:51 AM
3

Google has a family setup for sharing things like apps and Youtube Premium, and that extends access to the common payment method to all members, so basically dad's card is already linked up.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 08:22 AM
1

You don't need basic literacy to be a "boss bitch" who sews in weaves for cash while claiming welfare.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/19 08:17 AM
1

Please don't try and save face for Weinstein man. The problem I have with Weinstein is that the accusations made against him are far ranging, and while it is possible that some are valid, many are not based on the conduct of which he is accused.
/r/MensRights03/08/19 07:53 AM
3

Yes, And How did I know this would be the first comment. You fuckers are so bent out of shape about that shit still. Yeah, it's so outrageous to not overlook the sexual predation of a minor. Why can't people here just be good feminists and see Lena Dunham for the beautiful hero she is, instead of the molesting monster she voluntarily identified as to sell her shitty memoirs?
/r/MensRights02/08/19 11:40 PM
2

Finding out that she was in it, which I didn't know until the story of her sexually assaulting Brad Pitt on the red carpet broke, has made me reticent to see it too. I still will, because it's Tarantino, but I'll be skipping the theatrical run on this one.
/r/MensRights02/08/19 11:38 PM
7

Can we just take a minute, just a few seconds, to imagine the shear horror of having this O-beast 'flash her underwear' at you? Lots of people have unwittingly been exposed to her naked thanks to HBO, so...
/r/MensRights02/08/19 11:36 PM
3

Even supposing the people you are attacking were fat, they aren't going around sexually abusing people like Dunham has a a history of, nor are they putting their gross bodies on display as Dunham has done countless times via her awful HBO show.
/r/MensRights02/08/19 11:34 PM
1

Weinstein, typically got consent first, and helped the careers of those who were "victimized" by him. I think it's fair to say that Dunham isn't and couldn't help Pitt's career, and she sure as hell didn't even attempt to get consent before mauling his face.
/r/MensRights02/08/19 11:29 PM
6

I understand your point that black women have a higher rate of STD infection than other racial groups, but that is not relevant to my question, which is why anybody here should care who a couple of random black guys fuck. It literally couldn't impact us any less. And if they're dumb enough to chase pussy, I'm not sure why I should be bothered by which STDs they catch.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 01:46 PM
2

Yes, but context matters. Presumably this was either a sext or for an OLD site/app like Tinder. Measured against that, the question is really how it stacks up to the local competition. And while it isn't a world class ass, I suspect if is better than most of guys who'd be seeing it in its intended context can otherwise obtain, so taking the photo certainly does make sense.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 01:44 PM
2

This is less a Utah thing, than a "flyover country" thing. Perhaps in NY or CA where abortions are almost a hobby this wouldn't be the typical Tinder experience, but it sure as hell is standard throughout the midwest and the south, and I suspect even some of the less urban portions of the coastal states. The only thing that really varies by location is the color scheme of the women involved, since few cities are as white as Salt Lake City.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 01:41 PM
15

Better than nothing, but the maximum sentence her offense carries is life in prison, so compared to what was available I consider this grossly inadequate.
/r/MensRights02/08/19 07:22 AM
2

Good. Too few men find MGTOW on their own, so if circumstances remove them from the dating market, and thus spare them the ruination of divorce and paternity, so much the better.
/r/MensRights02/08/19 07:18 AM
2

I see your love of boxing brought on some CTE.
/r/MensRights02/08/19 07:14 AM
33

Who cares about what color of pussy they waste their lives on?
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 05:05 AM
23

Must be shit if you're only attracting shit, no? No, because her standard is that every variety of man is secretly shit. Read through her post and tell me if you think there's a man who wouldn't fall under one of these labels in her estimation. Now, of course, she'll look past it if somebody feeds her fat ass dinner, but she has a deep hatred of men, and one look at her twitter profile makes that painfully clear.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 02:08 AM
3

If you don’t have family to take care of you eventually you’re going to end up in a home. Even if you do have family, you can and often will wind up there, and often left unvisited, as you no doubt surely witness. The only thing one can do is either set money aside or buy long term care insurance (or whatever your country's equivalent is) to try and ensure that the place you wind up isn't shit. But relying on family is not a winning strategy.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 01:32 AM

Que deadbedrooms post in 3..2...1 No, surely she'll wait at least until she's married, so that she can ride that sweet alimony train if he drops her ass.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/19 01:18 AM
1

Nice faulty assumption, shitbag. But as it happens, I'm among those whose genitals were mutilated sans consent in fancy.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 12:59 AM
2

Uhh...okay. I'm not sure what your point is, because you've done a terrible job of making one. The only thing that is clear based off of your original point and your penchant for quoting the New Testament is that you're a worthless tradcon who wants to backdoor your religious cuckery into MGTOW under the guise of redefining the scope of MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 02:09 PM
2

What alternative am I supposed to offer? You assert that X is the problem, and I am suggesting that Y is actually the problem. Insofar as Y is the problem, there is no fix for the individual to implement.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 02:03 PM
1

By pumping and dumping, you're contributing to women's inflated egos and the illusion that her biological clock isn't a reality. And rendering them unmarriagable for a future man. Insofar as the primary and common objection of MGTOW is to marriage, why would it be at all objectionable to aid in "rendering them unmarriageable?" Even if we accept your premise, people who think like you are in an extreme minority. So even if you pass up a given piece of pussy, there is a long list of men eager to f…
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 02:00 PM
5

The whole point is to go YOUR own way. If that means being celibate, fucking, marrying, whatever.. but do it righteously. That's absurd. Defining MGTOW so broadly renders it non-existent. You cannot take the acronym as literally all that is meant, because otherwise you could reasonably apply it to nearly any man.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 01:54 PM
2

You are nurturing the same wheel (hookup culture & cock-carousel) that devoured us. This sounds like tradcon bullshit. The issue is not that some women are slutty, because were that the case, then there'd be a relatively easy solution of marrying devout religious women. The issue is the special social and legal protections extended to women that make them wholly unaccountable, and expose men to massive and ruinous risk in exchange for little to no discernible benefit. Given that, you can certain…
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 01:52 PM
3

If every men lost its inhibition with women, considering how far they go when arguing with a men, society would most likely collapse. It's already collapsing. And let's be real, even if we could stop it, the end result would still be shit. Not only would the frequency of violence go through the roof, but the physical damages men can inflict is set to be aimed at other men... Which are usually much stronger than women. Oh well. It really is simple...don't hit people and you won't get hit back. Yo…
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 01:46 PM
-1

Okay? I've not only never denied that, but I've stated it explicitly throughout my post history on reddit numerous times, and one of the subs in which I'm most active is /r/Israel. What of it, you demented fuck?
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 01:40 PM
6

Meanwhile, this person no doubt believe that billionaires, a minority if ever there was one, oppress the rest of society.
/r/MensRights01/08/19 09:34 AM
1

Condom for sex? Valuable. Condom for a male recipient of heterosexual oral sex? Does functionally nothing of stopping the already near-zero risk of infection (unless she has an active oral herpes outbreak, which you should be able to see and decline).
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 09:30 AM
1

This is gold.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 09:28 AM
6

Good for you, now fuck off. Adults should have that choice; infants should not be subjected to that choice by their parents.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 09:26 AM
3

You are literally Andrea Dworkin level retarded.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 02:17 AM
6

No more relationships for me until I'm in my career and she's a redpilled, right-minded, competent person. So no more relationships ever again. A wise decision.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 12:49 AM
4

As if MGM weren't outrageous enough on its own, it is worth remembering that few countries have any restrictions on who can perform one. It is not required that it be a doctor, or that they use any sort of anesthetic or analgesic, or that it eve be done in a sterile environment.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 11:53 AM
1

Without knowing the particulars of the screencapped incidents, the way it has worked out in many instances where litigation occurred is that the donor was legally on the hook either because there was no agreement in place, or they drafted some sort of agreement on their own, and the law only protected donors who went through a clinic or similar medical establishment.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 11:40 AM
5

That's $100 million more than I need to make that choice. Sex is fine, but it has literally never been worth the energy expended on women in my experience.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 08:53 AM
21

That was the case until 1839, when Caroline Norton, who cheated on her husband with Lord Melbourne, used her high society status to influence the passage of the Custody of Infants Act 1839, which represented the first legal installation of the Tender Years Doctrine, upending the whole of legal precedent in the civilized world that the provider father retained custody following divorce. And, as you would expect, that went on to infect other countries whose legal tradition relied upon English comm…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 05:18 AM
2

This reads like some grotesque antifacel think piece. Capitalism, which we do not actually get to enjoy, is not at fault. To the contrary, a true capitalist system is the best antidote to female entitlement, because it means ending mandatory subsidies to females at the expense of productive males. And it would further solve the distribution problem that alarms you, in that the removal of the welfare state disrupts the social safety net that empowers destructive female reproductive strategies. Of…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 05:09 AM
5

The same as it is of anybody who is on The Guardian's payroll, which is that she's human garbage.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 04:01 AM
2

I’ve always wanted to get a tat but I can’t help But feel like it’s the “mainstream” thing to do. That's because it is. 47% of millennials have at least one tattoo. That's compared to 36% of GenXers and 13% of boomers. Obviously given that a majority of Gen Z is too young to get tattoos we don't have meaningful statistics for that yet, but one assumes it is only going to become more common.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 03:51 AM
1

On the upside, he has video evidence as to who is committing the domestic abuse if he wises up and leaves her and she goes on to try and make a DV claim against him.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 02:36 AM
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The main takeaway from this is that the judge fucked up...by giving her any custody rights whatsoever. She's obviously so removed from reality that she is a genuine danger to those kids.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 02:24 AM
2

Motorcycles are unquestionably dangerous, but if he is obeying the rules of the road and her recklessness costs him a leg, it isn't he or his choices that are to blame.
/r/PussyPass31/07/19 01:54 AM
3

No just brits pal. True. The rest of the world is gun free also. Untrue. And not just in some gotcha sense of even "gun free" countries still having countless privately held guns, or by reference to failed states. Civilized countries like Canada and Finland and Austria and Malta all still have high rights of civilian firearm possession. England and Wales (because the data doesn't look at the UK as a whole) is 127th worldwide in per capita ownership.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 01:37 AM
2

The Human Rights tribunals (see: Mark Steyn & Ezra Levant) and anti-hate speech laws suggest otherwise.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 01:33 AM
3

What you're referring to are Time, Place, and Manner restrictions, which the Supreme Court has upheld for decades. And while they are certainly open to criticism, the point is that while such speech is always allowed, the government may have limits on where and when it is expressed. And based on a series of arguably poor decisions, AM and FM radio are considered "public airwaves" and thus subject to decency standards. By contrast though, there are no restrictions whatsoever on that same content …
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 01:29 AM
2

The US still does outlaw "obscene" speech, though there haven't been any new obscenity prosecutions since Bush left the White House, and even when successful their restrictions are technically limited to the local level, even if prosecuted federally. So the US is much better about free speech, but there is definite room for improvement.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 01:26 AM
1

Well, if you spent less time trying to attack them and learned about the story at all, you'd know that the youngest of the three males she had sex with is 15, and the age of consent in Cyprus is 17. Thus, she committed statutory rape, which thus far there has been no indication will be among the charges she's arraigned for on August 7.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 01:10 AM
4

Statutorily raping other boys.
/r/PussyPass31/07/19 01:08 AM
1

And what the fuck is it with their pro-Israel chants? Since they weren't persecuted for being Israelis or Jews, this just looks like jingoism. That's false. As far as we can tell, only seven of the twelve arrested were even in the room where the sex happened. The other five were literally arrested for being Israelis registered as guests in the same hotel.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 01:04 AM
1

And you will last no longer than society Why would I possibly care about that? Life does not have some deep cosmic purpose. And in a realistic binary between inviting a huge amount of risk and misery by propagating my genetics or making this short life as pleasant as possible for myself, I choose the latter. I do not, by virtue of merely existing, have a responsibility to sacrifice my happiness for some nebulous social good in service of a fundamentally unrealistic goal that I don't even share. …
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 01:02 AM
1

Any evidence of how it was covered? Well, I doubt you speak Hebrew, but plenty of English outlets covered it, and the only one I can recall not siding against them at any point was Arutz Sheva.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 12:47 AM
1

LOL! She got paid, did she? If not, it's not whorish. Tell me, is a man who fucks multiple women being whorish? Okay, so a slut. As if you'd have found that less objectionable given your holier than thou posturin. Didn't at least some of them film her without her consent? If so, isn't that a crime in this country? Maybe. She, the proven liar and statutory rapist makes that claim. The multiple falsely accused males assert that she consented to it. Given the choice of who to believe, it seems obvi…
/r/MensRights31/07/19 12:46 AM
1

Bitch, you asked the question. Sorry that you don't like the response. The fact that MGM is wrong is irrelevant to the scope of what you asked.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 05:22 PM
15

So men should throw away their lives knocking up resource leeches women in some desperate bid to "save" a fundamentally broken society whose continuance would do nothing but further exploit them? That's dumb as hell.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 03:34 PM
6

Women want male resources? Not that much now that there's a massive welfare state. It's relative to their starting station in life and general SMV. Some hoodrat from a broken home who dropped out of school at 16 is going to get her resources from the state. The bitch whose father bought her a brand new car at 16 and who has had guys throwing themselves at her since she started wearing a pushup bra is going to demand a higher standard of living, which means finding some naive/desperate guy to spo…
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 03:32 PM
2

It isn't a random blog. Times of Israel is one of the larger English language Israeli news sources, so this amounts to an MSM source.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 03:10 PM
1

No. I can say that with absolute confidence. Why? Because what you describe - metzitzah b'peh is one of the absolute rarest practices in Judaism, limited to a few fringe Haredi sects. Even as an ex-Haredi Jew who knew Haredim of several different sects, I never once encountered anybody who'd witnessed it or approved of it. And this guy is very obviously not a Haredi, so there is a zero percent chance he's among the demented fringe sub-1% of the community that still supports this.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 03:09 PM
1

Image matters. And these guys don't need our help, they have Israel on their side. Don't pretend like you have a fucking clue how this was covered in Israel. I'll let you in on a little secret: they were declared guilty at the outset, and the media backpedal now is routinely framed as "well, they aren't technically rapists, but they are definitely all horrible." Yes, some Israelis, particularly their family and friends, are supporting them, but they don't enjoy any more support than most victims…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 03:05 PM
1

Aren't these the charmers chanting "The Brit is a whore"? That was chanted by some of them and/or their supporters in Israel upon their return, yes. But so what? Setting aside that her behavior is itself whorish, I don't think we need to worry about the names a false rape accuser, who herself committed statutory rape, is called. I, for one, am more concerned by the damage done to these twelve innocent young men. but they are clearly massive assholes and will only give the cause a bad name. Even …
/r/MensRights30/07/19 03:03 PM
1

That's only partially true. Five of them have not been named publicly at all.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 02:54 PM
1

they get less revenue because they have less exposure. More exposure would generate more revenue, but no amount of marketing will ever create equal demand for watching a lower quality version of the sport, which is what women's soccer is, given their inability to beat teenage boys.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 11:13 AM
2

Nobody is complaining about that. What people are complaining about is the baseless claim the women are making that they are unpaid, when every bit of data thus far demonstrates the complete opposite.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 11:12 AM
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Because this isn't an anomaly. All across the world top ranked female sports teams practice against much more junior/lower ranked male teams, and losing to said males is the standard outcome.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 10:58 AM
1

LATEST UPDATE: The false accuser/statutory rapist's arraignment has been moved to August 7 at the request of the defendant's attorney, though she will remain in police custody until then because she is considered a flight risk. So far there is no indication that they intend to charge her with statutory rape, despite her having implicitly confessed to the act, and there being video of it.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 09:28 AM
5

Don't go to orgies where the dicks out number the vaginas 12 to 1...nope, that's not right. As an aside, it should be noted that the arrested include multiple individuals who were not in the hotel, let alone that one room, when the orgy happened. But because they were Israeli males registered at the same hotel, they got swept up by the police.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 06:19 AM
6

As men, it’s time to say clearly that we do not condone any sex — or any other behavior — that humiliates women, whether it’s consensual or not. This is maybe the stupidest part of this incredibly stupid take. So female agency is so foreign a notion that even their consent to an act doesn't count if some third party might regard it as demeaning? I think that infantilization of women is far more humiliating than anything these boys did. As men, it’s time to teach our boys that a higher moral law …
/r/MensRights30/07/19 06:02 AM
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Let's look at some of the worst parts of this article: The teen boys filmed the act without her consent, then booted her from the hotel room. People who condemned the boys as soon as they were arrested still seem unwilling to admit that they were wrong in the rush to judgement, and so have been trying to find new grounds to attack them. One common argument has been "well, they filmed her without consent." Setting aside the fact that said video proved crucial in establishing their innocence and t…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 05:53 AM
4

How do you know? Because AWALT.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 03:59 AM
2

I agree that the law needs to be fixed, but the function of my comment is to help clarify the law, as no doubt there are men who read such comments and are led astray by them, who stand to benefit by better knowing what their legal rights are, so that they can assert them while they remain.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 03:34 AM
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Fuck off. Women have always been a protected class, Jews have nearly always been a mistreated minority. The comparison is totally and fundamentally invalid. Moreover, Jews on a per capita basis are exceptionally economically productive, which categorically cannot be said of women.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 02:18 AM
6

To be clear, in literally every state an unmarried man has a right to contest allegations of paternity; it's just that there's a window to do so, and the state won't help you along in that process or warn you that time is tolling.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 02:11 AM
5

Not as a rule, no. But I think nearly all MRAs recognize that the collapse of the nuclear family is bad for children, so to the extent one is inclined towards reproduction, a certain amount of localized traditionalism is necessary for healthy outcomes. But certain very few MRAs are of the mindset that marriage is necessary and all women should stay home looking after kids while men are the sole breadwinners, whose worth is tied to providing for women and children.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 02:05 AM
1

I think many Irish like myself feel an enormous sense of kinship with Israel, as they also fought the British for independence and a state (although I'm quite fold on the British too for taking-on Hitler and generally being quite a funny and creative lot). It's interesting you should say this, because the perception in Israel and among the Jewish diaspora is that the Irish are hostile to us and overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian, while the Northern Irish are our friends, as evidenced by the common s…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 12:44 AM
2

It has not been made public in Cyprus or Israel. I saw the Times of Israel claim that "an English blog" leaked her name, but I cannot find it anywhere.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/19 11:15 PM
1

I genuinely don't mean it in anything other than an admiring and positive way. Which is why I said it was "odd" rather than anti-semitic. I know it relied on a stereotype of Jewish wealth, but it didn't seem to come from a bad place. I'm Jewish, and I didn't take offense to it. Mind you, still a mystery to me how they've not seen that circumcision is a load of nonsense. There are some of us opposed to it, and as a former ultra-orthodox Jew, I would even argue that there is a religiously-defensib…
/r/MensRights29/07/19 11:09 PM
3

ICAAN is a non-profit that was established/spun out of the Department of Commerce. Because the US military invented the internet, the US government has always had functional control over it, though in recent years there has been an effort to internationalize the internet's oversight to US objection.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 03:02 PM
2

ICANN authorizes the creation of TLDs (top level domains) like .com and .info. And they grant oversight of a given TLD to a registrar. .com and .net are both controlled by a company called Verisign, and hence are priced the same. An individual who wants to buy an unclaimed domain buys it from either Verisign or an authorized registrar (like GoDaddy or NameCheap). Verisign sets a minimum price, but registrars with sales rights can charge above that, pocketing the difference for their services (eg…
/r/MensRights29/07/19 02:41 PM
2

1) Your response makes no sense. In literally no way does it address hypergamy. 2) You can argue this is a "win" if you want, but that doesn't take away from the point about gynocentricity. An ideology that demonizes male sexuality and centers around protecting the "natural" purity of females is necessarily gynocentric. Apparently that doesn't bother you in this context, which is fine, but it is nonetheless gynocentric. 3) Demonstrably false. In most of the developed world, it is extremely rare.…
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 02:36 PM
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UPDATE: She's being held for another day, and will be indicted tomorrow when her lawyer arrives from the UK. She'll be charged with "Disturbing the public order," which carries a maximum penalty of a year in prison. Apparently the civil suit by her Israeli victims is expected to be for at least 60,000 euros, and because of the cost of this nonsense, local authorities in Cyprus are also considering a lawsuit against her.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 02:29 PM
1

If they participated in sexual acts, is she being charged with statutory rape? Not as of yet, though you raise a good point. The age of consent in Cyprus is 17, and there is no closeness in age exception, so she ought to be charged with that particular offense as well.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 02:25 PM
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Islam is gynocentric, as evidenced by several points: 1) While a Muslim man may take a non-Muslim wife, a Muslim woman may not take a non-Muslim husband, evidencing that female purity is a guiding virtue and Islam makes a point to protect it. 2) By virtue of its demands for female modesty expressed in terms of not driving males to the sin of premarital sex, it supposes female purity and male beastliness, and suggests that it is necessary to prevent femininity from being defiled by tainted male s…
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 02:19 PM
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That's...an odd take. First, I'm not sure that any of these Israelis are rich, certainly not independent of their parents given that some of them are as young as 15. Second, they are far from alone in holding their false accusers to account. Geoffrey Rush is Jewish (and, in fact, his false accuser was) and he sued over a #MeToo libel and won $2M, though his lawsuit was against a paper that ran the accusations rather than the less well off actress herself. And though he failed, the German student…
/r/MensRights29/07/19 12:47 PM
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I'm aware of the fact that it was well covered in the Israeli media, that isn't what I meant. Rather, I'm saying I don't think arrests in Cyprus are going to show up on standard background checks, or that these men, some of whom I believe have not yet been named in the Israeli press (or any press for that matter) are likely to face lasting consequences in Israel over the events in Cyprus.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 12:42 PM
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Never forget Israel is a fundamentally racist state. Disagree strongly with that claim. And I would further argue that while rape by deception laws should be expunged, as cases go, that is less outrageous than the one I mentioned.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 05:58 AM
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He's married. That alone tells you how much stock you ought to put into he writing about women.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 03:47 AM
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I think you're giving him too much credit. The plain reality is that most men, no matter what they experience, remain bluepilled and live their life for vagina.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 03:38 AM
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This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the reality of Islam. They are anti-feminist, but Islam is still unquestionably gynocentric.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 03:33 AM
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No interest in either, but even so as a non-gamer I'd also rather have Halo 3.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 03:31 AM
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Not necessarily. They are usually like you and me, If SJWs are "like you," then there's something seriously wrong with you.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 03:24 AM
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Israel also has a "rape by deception" law, under which a number of men (and, as you'd expect, zero women) have been prosecuted. It is so excessive in scope that one man, Eran Ben-Avraham, was convicted for having claimed to be a surgeon to a woman who went on to sleep with him.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 03:08 AM
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Even were that to happen, Cyprus is an EU member and first world country, so it wouldn't be especially dire like I think you're hoping.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 03:04 AM
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Not if you already own the domain; the renewal feels are typically the same for those TLDs. But sure, if somebody else is squatting on the name, .com generally commands a larger premium than .net.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 03:01 AM
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I assume because there are a subset of shitbags on reddit who reflexively downvote anything related to Israel that isn't an overt and full-throated condemnation of Israel.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 03:00 AM
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Conversely though, in fucked up countries like the UK it is not legal to disclose the name of the accuser, only the accused.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 03:00 AM
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I'm not sure that a legal issue in Cyprus is likely to follow these men back to Israel. I suppose one could worry that it would disqualify them from certain sensitive positions that involve deep background checks, which in Israel is more common than in most countries given the number of tech firms who work in the defense/cybersecurity/infosec space, but I would also imagine given the clear exoneration of these men that anybody bothered enough to do a deep dive is likely to overlook this issue. I…
/r/MensRights29/07/19 02:59 AM
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You will say that to sound libertarian, I'm not trying to sound like anything; I actually am a libertarian. like some great moral philosopher willing to self-sacrifice for the greater good of personal freedom I know this is hard for you to fathom, but you can favor laws that don't obviously benefit you. I stand to gain nothing by lowering the top marginal tax rate because I'm not in the top tax bracket, yet I fully support that too. I don't use or enjoy marijuana, and thus do not benefit by its …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/19 08:32 AM
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I used to be an MGTOW (although I never supported the universal hatred of women). When I would mention this to people irl they would label me as an incel and have nothing more to do with me. You can also check r/inceltears for the endless posts over there that call MGTOWs incel. I didn’t believe that they were though. Incels hate women, MGTOWs don’t (or so I thought). So your point is that demented fucks who get off on mocking miserable men and know so little that they cannot differentiate betwe…
/r/MensRights28/07/19 06:57 AM
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The thing is, most of the women agree with our problems. They want the same shit as we do. Neutral laws, equal rights and duties. Citation needed.
/r/MensRights28/07/19 06:54 AM
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Calling out misogyny is an essential part of the MRM if we ever hope for it to truly succeed. No, that's a waste of finite effort. There are already plenty of anti-MRM types who are more than happy to do this. Wasting time trying to chase away men who are perhaps duly bitter and express it in uncouth terms is not productive. And tone policing really shouldn't be a part of the MRM. If we don't do this, the movement will fall into the same depths that the modern feminist movement has. I disagree. …
/r/MensRights28/07/19 06:51 AM
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I'm with you. The MGTOW mods can be heavy handed, but there have been a lot of white knight and feminist trolls flooding the sub of late, and the post the OP made certainly comes off as concern trolling. Absent an established history of participation in the sub demonstrating that you actually share these ideas and are prepared to have a reasonable discussion, the decision to remove the OP isn't categorically unreasonable.
/r/MensRights28/07/19 06:43 AM
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And what makes you an authority fit to determine "the real MGTOW?"
/r/MensRights28/07/19 06:41 AM
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Well, starting a PHD program; no reason to assume she'll manage to finish it. Moreover, she's presumably working on a PHD in a bullshit discipline like Women's Studies, where the ability to think rationally is an outright liability, rather than something you'd reasonably assume was within their capacity.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/19 06:37 AM
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Women do it because the laws and social norms make it favorable to them. Men do it because they get brainwashed into believing marriage is worth their time and shamed for avoiding it, and most men buckle under that sort of pressure.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/19 06:35 AM
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Keep in mind, gentlemen, we are not just fighting to save men here. We're fighting to save all of us. We're fighting to save that first crush we ever had from ending up like this girl. If there is nobility in our purpose, it is there. I'm sure as hell not. Because honestly, that sounds like some tradcon bullshit of "if we can just improve women a little, then suddenly marriage and family will make sense again, and we can get men back on the marriage plantation." Even if women reject feminism, ma…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/19 06:34 AM
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That misses the point. You can vet for quality all you want, but nobody expects that they're getting involved with garbage until it is too late. Moreover, the issue is less about the quality of women than the legal situation. Divorce and child custody laws are too aggressively biased against men for starting a family to ever represent a reasonable option.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 06:22 AM
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Your dad notwithstanding, it is hilarious when feminists and their sneaky fucker white knight allies, who are supposed to be woke and thus tolerant of homosexuality, make that accusation, as if it is supposed to compel us to conform. What it shows, unsurprisingly, is that many of those who are most vocal in their defense of homosexuals are only interested in virtue signaling, and in practice are all too happy to throw the gay community under the bus the second they cease to be useful.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 06:04 AM
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While I can't argue otherwise, I think you'd be hard pressed to name a society that doesn't rely at least in part, and generally in overwhelming measure, on shame as a mechanism to compel men to disregard their personal welfare and conform to destructive social norms.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 06:01 AM
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I get all of that, but you're assuming that she's both rational and not an absolute moron. I would argue that somebody who carries out an acid attack, which happens all the time in certain countries, is both irrational and a moron. So I find it within the realm of possibility, not least because pictures of the boyfriend receiving treatment made it into the Western media.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/19 05:34 AM
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As should probably not surprise you, these things are rarely well regulated in third world countries, especially ones like Cambodia where acid attacks are somewhat common. Theoretically Cambodian law requires that acid sales be restricted to individuals with professional licenses in trades that require the use of strong acid. In practice, the goldsmiths and motorcycle battery repairmen who are the major acid buys routinely break the law and resell acid to people. And since actual enforcement of …
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/19 05:29 AM

You don't really believe this story do you? Why not? It was widely reported at the time, and by foreign press as well as Cambodian press. And Cambodia has had a semi-lengthy history of problems with acid attacks, and is in a neighborhood of countries where acid attacks are common.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/19 05:25 AM

I tried looking into it, but couldn't find anything either way. I imagine that is largely a function of the fact that beyond this initial story that made for good fodder, the foreign press didn't care enough to follow up, and Cambodian media is both crappy and government-censored. In any event, I imagine that there is a decent chance she went to jail, in that: At the time they issued a warrant for her arrest. She'd previously been arrested on jewelry theft and drug charges. By the time this offe…
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/19 05:22 AM
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Businesses can't discriminate for who they serve if they don't like your skin color, or your religion, or your disability, etc. That is the law as written now, but I oppose that law as well. I support complete freedom of association, which necessarily involves the right not to associate. If some shithead restaurant wants to refuse me service because I'm Jewish, that should be their right. A communication company should not be allowed to discriminate if they don't like your views. Consistent with…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/19 05:09 AM
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I'm opposed to Facebook censorship, but the First Amendment protects you from government, not social media companies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/19 01:50 AM
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Yes, I do. I think he deserves his vote at least as much as you do. For all of the valid criticisms of Facebook, he generates a fortune in tax revenue and employs a ton of people.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/19 12:57 AM
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Because quality costs and this guy has a limit on what he can or is willing to spend.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 03:08 AM
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She must not be very attractive if she can't get a better offer.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 03:06 AM
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Care to expand on that argument? I'm strongly against it as a matter of fairness, but I've never seen this claim made, let alone argued.
/r/MensRights27/07/19 03:03 AM
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Do you not have even a basic understanding of the law. All 50 states offer no fault divorce, and a number even make that the only type of divorce available. So when she filed for divorce, it was a given that he would be paying support, regardless of moral culpability. And in any case, he claims to be paying child support, not alimony. Cheating does not erase the "best interests of the child" doctrine that family courts use to bleed men of assets.
/r/MensRights27/07/19 03:03 AM
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Why is it necessary to drink a toxic substance? It isn't necessary. Most things in life are not necessary. But it is enjoyable. And life is something to be enjoyed as much as one can.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 02:58 AM
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So your response to the supposition that drinking alcohol in moderation for enjoyment is bad is to cite a demented conspiracy website? And yes, that is exactly what it is. You can tell this by looking at the website's footer, with its "Study the enemy: Protocols of the Elders of Zion" nonsense and its 9/11 trutherism. If you care to make an actually sound argument I'm all ears. But this crap isn't worth anybody's time.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 02:48 AM
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Literal synonyms.
/r/MensRights27/07/19 02:41 AM
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Right, because icons of feminism like Andrea Dworkin aren't real feminists. 😒 It remains a point of frustration for the historically literate participants of this sub how some of the more blue pilled participants have been taken in by this public school version of feminism, that suggests it has always been and remains a movement for true equality. As has been discussed countless times here, feminism has never been about equality, and the foundational premise of feminism - patriarchy conjecture -…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 02:36 AM
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Like most here who say that, what he means is that pussy simply isn't worth the cost. The benefits are quite frankly minimal, and the costs can be quite staggering by an array of different metrics. So sure, in the abstract pussy has appeal, but it fails a cost-benefit analysis, so mere attraction is insufficient to justify the investment.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 02:28 AM
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I'll be honest in saying that I can't really understand it either. I understand choosing not to drink if you're an alcoholic, or if you have health issues, or if you are a problem drinker, or if you use it as a social lubricant and you don't want to be social, or if you cannot afford to drink. But personally, as the sort of person who has a couple of beers 2-3 times a week, and drinks selectively for taste, I see no obvious case against drinking. My consumption is moderate and enjoyable, and I s…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 02:25 AM
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Not that as far as I can tell it has ever happened, but UK law permits up to life in prison for the offense (perverting the course of justice). Insofar as it is a crime, the prosecution of which means full due process rights, the presumption of innocence, and the need to be certain beyond a reasonable doubt of guilt before convicting somebody, I feel comfortable with life in prison being the standard punishment. It isn't as though if a person accused of rape isn't found guilty that his accuser i…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 02:20 AM
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I don't think one relationship, and a short one at that, is especially instructive. But I will say that the women I went to law school with, on average, were far more insufferable than the women I went to college with or have known outside of a professional capacity.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 02:14 AM
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Obviously that would be the case in absolute terms given that the sizable majority of Americans are white. This is where percentages are far more instructive.
/r/MensRights27/07/19 02:10 AM
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...goddamnitt is it worth even trying, lol. No, but deep down you knew that. What value do women bring to your life? None. So don't waste your time on them.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 01:43 AM
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Im betting most people are praising his SO for being a strong and independent woman. Look at the sub it was posted in. Not like you'd expect sex workers to condemn sex work or the people who choose that as a livelihood.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 01:37 AM
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It wasn't quantity that was the problem, but her menu choices. Per the text, she ordered lobster, which unsurprisingly was 30 euro, and then ordered an 80 euro bottle of wine. Neither item is outrageously expensive for what they are, nor is it an overly gluttonous order in terms of portion. But expecting some dude to pay for it, particularly when his own order was less than 20 euros and he's a student, is what's genuinely outrageous.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 01:29 AM
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I can certainly see that argument as being correct. But I would suggest another possible explanation. Perhaps she, as a lesbian feminist, wanted to go undercover so that she could write a book about the male experience, both in furtherance of an agenda of proving that men are so much better off as she'd been indoctrinated into believing, and in hoping to capture some of the fame that men before her like John Howard Griffin gained with Black Like Me. Instead, she discovered that her foundational …
/r/MensRights27/07/19 01:16 AM
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No, she's the secretary of the person making those decisions.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 12:59 AM
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That is fucking absurd. So lawyers shouldn't vote? Investment bankers shouldn't vote? Entrepreneurs with highly successful businesses who dropped out of college (like Gates and Zuckerberg) shouldn't vote? Now, if you wanted to make an argument for restricting voting to property owners (a historic norm) or people not receiving welfare, that would be defensible if somewhat dubious. But restricting the overwhelming majority of society, including the vast majority of its economically productive memb…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 12:56 AM
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I don't think that is a reasonable read. Based on her own statements it would seem that either before said concealed relationship, contemporaneous to it, or between it and the relationship with her husband beginning, she had plenty of slut time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 12:49 AM
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Guys, if you've had bad luck all your life with dating, be wary of any woman who seems out of your league showing serious interest. Trust your gut, and dont feel guilty for using them without committing. Theyd do worse to you if given the opportunity. If they want to show you attention and you want to relish it, fine. But don't respond by wasting money on them; don't become an accidental (or intentional) sugar daddy by overvaluing pussy. When you don't flash the cash and don't signal a willingne…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 12:45 AM
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I feel sorry for this guy, but this was an avoidable problem, and not through "holding frame" or any TRP nonsense that supposes one can render themselves high value and that having said value magically alleviates problems. Rather, he could've avoided this by having the good sense not to marry. There is literally no upside to ever doing so for most men, be they alpha or beta or omega or whatever term you care to use. The only defense of marriage that withstands scrutiny is having kids given the s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/19 12:42 AM
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While I do think they represent the natural choice, it is worth pointing out that such assets have been confiscated by government before specifically because of its hedging value. See: Executive Order 6102, which was in effect for 41 years. So you better be prepared to either lose it, kill/die to protect it, or risk a visit to jail if things get bad enough.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:29 AM
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Well, and NoFappers. I know that NoFappers exist, but I have a hard time seeing how that aligns with MGTOW. I know there are some very odd semen retention folks here who have parallel beliefs regarding avoidance of masturbation, but their motivation is based on some eastern spiritual nonsense, and is more in line with monk mode stuff. I presume they incidentally don't use pornography, though the motivation there isn't a moral object to it per se, at least from what I've gathered when I've seen t…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:15 AM
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No, I would not. If you want to spread the good word about your imaginary sky daddy, go knock on doors and annoy your neighbors. I have zero use for such bullshit.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:40 PM
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Fuck off with your gross tradcon bullshit. We value our lives enough to not be slaves to an outmoded tradition that demands men ruin their lives through marriage and fatherhood, both of which are acts that contemporary law makes ruinous to men.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:07 PM
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Sorry. I assumed otherwise based on the number of commonly discussed issues you've been set straight about in this thread coupled with just now getting a sense of the sub's politics that you were new. Still, in the grand scheme of things, a half a year isn't all that much. I know that my knowledge, and by extension my views, are very different now than they were over a decade ago when this sub was first created.
/r/MensRights26/07/19 12:00 PM
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The left aggressively demonises men at about the amount that the right hates black people, it's a very small minority. Respectfully, I would challenge this. I understand the sentiment that foaming at the mouth open misandrists may be rare, but some degree of anti-male feminism (an admitted redundancy) is widespread on the let, hence all the virtue signaling around equal pay that is on the mainstream of the left. Setting aside that it has been illegal to pay women less for the same work for almos…
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:57 AM
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Exactly. This is a common phrase/sentiment within the MRM, more commonly expressed in MGTOW than MRA communities, so as somebody who is just exploring the waters here, your confusion is to be expected.
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:54 AM
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The point he's making is that to some degree society and women generally define a man by his utility, and want to provide him no form of support in return, not recognizing his personhood and any suffering he experiences. Rather, his value is derived from his subsidizing of women, either directly through money spent on wives/girlfriends, or indirectly through taxes of which men are net payers and women are net recipients. By contrast, a woman is assigned worth merely by existing, and her emotiona…
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:49 AM
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So... Any sub that doesn't share the totality of your personal politics and actually is open to a range of views is bad, and The left, which is home to identity politics and feminism and which aggressively demonizes men, is what you want? Then it would certainly seem that you're in the wrong place, but the problem isn't this sub.
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:42 AM
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And why should we? You can care about black people with embracing a movement that is radically left wing and which is plainly feminist.
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:40 AM
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Seriously, I'm sure he was too hurt in the moment to say anything to that effect, but he'd have been more than justified in responding with equal vitriol. And I imagine that he's far more likely to have actually been sexually traumatized than a number of the women there who see to relish imaginary victimhood status because it carries social currency in certain demented circles.
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:35 AM
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Common sense? Even if you start with the assumption that the therapist is a woman, which would be right far more often than not, and further that she's an outright man-hating feminist, which is well within reason, what incentive would she have to harm her client in a way that would hurt her financially and expose her to both civil liability and the loss of her professional licensure?
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:33 AM
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Here's an idea...if you don't want to be gawked at, don't become a celebrity who wears physically flattering attire. Wear a burka and you'll be as invisible as you claim to want now. Of course, that comes at the price of not being a wealthy celebrity, so we can't have that now. No, she is entitled to dictate how other people look at her, all while being paid for simply existing as an attractive woman, and any man who disagrees is an obvious misogynist. Fuck you. I hope this lawsuit ruins you, th…
/r/PussyPassDenied26/07/19 04:25 AM
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Why would you not just leave her ass? Because divorce is expensive as fuck, and he probably doesn't want to find himself another woman that he expects will be different but turns out to be more of the same.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/19 01:44 AM
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To the lurkers out there who might say, "porn bad", Anybody who thinks that is either a feminist shithead or a tradcon shithead, and in neither instance is MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 01:17 AM
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Start by reading her original thread. The way it opens says it all. "I asked this on an advice sub and they called me 'crazy' and 'controlling.'" In other words, normal people didn't validate her radical feminism, so she turned to a group of radical feminists to find support for her desires to be a controlling piece of shit. And unsurprisingly, it blew up in her awful face. I do think trusting her alone in his apartment to retrieve her stuff was a mistake, but otherwise he handled it the way any…
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:53 AM
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We've definitely been seeing more women and white knights posting in here lately, but they tend to get heavily downvoted and/or banned, so the practical impact they have is very limited.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:34 AM
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Honesty demands acknowledging that the scientific literature suggests breastfeeding is superior to formula, and that is one distinctly female source of value post-delivery in terms of child rearing. Having said that, the terrible outcomes for children raised by single mothers does suggest that especially after that very early phase, they are the less valuable parent, since from the much more modest data sets available, single father households don't appear to do nearly as poorly.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:32 AM
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Well, I guess they need to do something keep the attention of the remaining five teenage girls who still watch MTV.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:28 AM
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Single men go hiking, fishing, camping, hunting. Single men ride motorcycles, ATVs, dirt bikes, snowmobiles. And they maintain and customize them. Single men work on their cars and take them to the track. Single men work on their trucks and take them off road. Let's be honest. Even if a single man were to occupy all of his free time watching mind numbing trash on Netflix, it is still a better use of his time than a relationship.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:23 AM
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Enjoy life instead of drama, legal issues, and financial drainage? Yeah, relationships are super compelling, with false rape accusations and domestic violence claims, women faking pregnancy tests and/or sabotaging birth control to get their hooks into stable men, intentionally creating conflict to avoid boredom and being alone with their thoughts, and having to waste huge sums of cash to impress some entitled single mother who lives off of welfare and child support.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:21 AM
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I'm by no means an expert on UK law, but I'm unaware of any such change, and a quick google search does not suggest anything of the sort has been formalized. What is true is that many articles complain about the system being sufficiently hostile towards those accused that it is tantamount to being presumed guilty even if found innocent, but the law as written does not appear to say anything of the sort.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 03:03 PM
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I do understand the context. It changes literally nothing. If you support anti-male discrimination, why bother participating in this subreddit?
/r/MensRights25/07/19 02:57 PM
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I just got out of an abusive relationship Abuse is one of those words that if I hear it come out of a woman's mouth, I disregard everything that follows. Unquestionably some women are genuinely physically abused. But to hear women speak, every man on Earth must be a serial abuser to account for their relationship history. I suspect very little of this "abuse" is actual physical or sexual abuse. And even when it is, CDC statistics indicate that a majority of domestic violence is bidirectional, an…
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 02:52 PM
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It literally isn't. Companies do this to diversify their workforce when they already have a gender imbalance That is still discrimination. If you've got a warped sense of fairness you might argue that it is a defensible form of discrimination, but it remains discrimination. or when a govt law calls for it to again, correct gender imbalance in workforce. Government-mandated discrimination is still discrimination. See: Nuremberg Laws, Jim Crow.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 02:49 PM
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Seen many ads with "only male candidates apply" too. Even if that were true... this isn't discrimination. ...it is still, by definition, discrimination. There is nothing in the nature of software engineering that requires or even advantages being female, so this filter is not defensible.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 02:24 PM
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My pleasure. I think even as unpopular as the label feminist thankfully is, that is mostly because people are repulsed by what they see now, still believing thanks to the poor quality public school education they received, that feminism was nobler in its origin than it actually was. Notably, I first learned about this and adjusted my thinking accordingly from listening to a couple of great female MRAs, both Karen Straughan and Hannah Wallen, two of the women who are part of Honey Badger Radio.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 06:50 AM
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Obviously we support the sentiments you've expressed, but I would encourage you to rethink your identification as a feminist. Your framing suggests that there is such a thing as good feminism, and that it is something that has largely been relegated to the past based on an evolution of feminism, but that earlier manifestations were about achieving a genuine and necessary equality. That's a popular belief, and you'll even see some men here express that in some form. But that misunderstands the hi…
/r/MensRights25/07/19 03:04 AM
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I can't argue the merits of that point. What I would argue though is that women are used to receiving endless and unwarranted praise regardless of what they do, yet still actively seek more for the shallowest of reasons. Most men go without compliments or acknowledgement for anything they do for extended periods of time. So I do think there is a qualitative difference, even if I personally share your reticence to provide validation to a stranger who seeks it online like a woman.
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 02:51 AM
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Well, the only people who ever say that you cannot ban MGM because it violates "Jewish and Islamic law" are leftists. And that is the argument I see offered most commonly among people who aren't pro-MGM per se but oppose treating it legally the way that MGM is treated. While traditionally it is the right that cares about religious freedom, the left tends to get concerned when there is an identitarian angle to be played because the religion is a minority. As one of these mutilated Jews on the rig…
/r/MensRights25/07/19 02:46 AM
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Absurd but not shocking. Any time a person posts something a mod disagrees with, it must be brigading. It can't ever be that people with a difference of opinion participate in the subreddit or stumbled onto it by chance and care to contribute. No, it must always be nefarious activity that explains the breach of this safe space. Of course, in your case it is especially absurd, since the comment didn't even advocate against MGM, but literally provided hygiene information to a comment about not mut…
/r/MensRights25/07/19 02:42 AM
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Depending upon what you mean by that term, I think that's an overstatement. That is, I tend to understand beta as a term for a provider that a woman extracts resources from, and is with based on those resources. To that end, neither MGTOW (by choice) nor incels (by force of nature), are betas, simply because they are not providing resources to women. What am I overlooking?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/07/19 02:39 AM
1

Your solution makes marriage much more attractive to men, but it also makes it wildly less attractive to women. And as both parties need to agree to marriage, I don't see this as likely to increase marriage at all.
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 02:29 AM
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No, but the laws can be worse. I'm not familiar with Korean divorce law, but Japanese divorce and child custody law makes the US look like a utopia by contrast. Specifically, they do not recognize joint custody, so nearly always the mother has sole custody, while the father must pay considerable child support without any right to see or have any influence over their child. And on top of owing support, they will have to leave the shared home and continue paying its mortgage.
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 02:17 AM
15

Seems like this belongs on /r/pussypassdenied, since he hit her back.
/r/PussyPass25/07/19 01:42 AM
3

I can't speak to how well this would work in the UK given the strong judicial bias in favor of women, but working in your favor is that the English defamation law is internationally renowned for its favorability to plaintiffs. That is, the burden of proving the truth of an allegedly defamatory statement would fall on her as the defendant. So you should consider talking to an attorney about suing her for defamation. Unless the UK is wildly different in its approach to attorney compensation than t…
/r/MensRights25/07/19 01:41 AM
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With regards to seeing a lawyer, I am in the UK, do you know how much the sort of service you are referring to might cost? There's a saying that is popular with lawyers, but which is quite true: the only thing more expensive than a good lawyer is not having one.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 01:36 AM
1

Edit: people really just hate NYC I guess. Sorry snowflakes. Yes, having preferences makes one a snowflake. How insightful.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/07/19 01:13 AM
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Yes, but you need to realize that success as you define it is not something that many people want. Money buys choice, but most people are never going to be stratospherically wealthy, so short of that there is good evidence that this is a point beyond which further wealth does not increase one's happiness generally. And if you're MGTOW, you're not supporting a wife or kids, so there's no need to slavishly accumulate capital to waste on material goods you don't particularly want, especially at the…
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 01:07 AM
1

Your Dad would have you be a criminal. No he wouldn't. Literally nothing in the OP supports this supposition. It's still an incredibly bad idea, but the legal risk relates to divorce, not immigration fraud, since what the dad is advocating is that he gets to know her online and then actually marry her with the intent of staying married, not to get this random woman a green card at the expense of his son.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 08:01 PM
2

The answer is, or at least should be obvious: stay away. Marriage is absolutely not in your interest, even if she is "extremely good looking" and "a good person." Physical attractiveness is a depreciating asset, especially in women, and one that in truth isn't all that valuable to you even when it is at its peak. As to her being a good person, that is entirely speculation, but even supposing it to be the case, there are plenty of "good people" who wind up filing for divorce, which will destroy y…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 07:58 PM
1

But then who would by these entitled twats their dinner, drinks, and coke?
/r/MensRights23/07/19 07:53 PM
3

Then don't. It's a choice, and you have only yourself to blame if you make it. Not dating is the better choice, but if you insist on doing so, insist that she pays her own way. Not sure how well that'll work in India where you are, but if your main impetus is sex as stated in another comment, prostitutes are incredibly cheap in India.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 07:48 PM
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Your question is fundamentally flawed. At no age is MGTOW the "only realistic option left." At literally all ages is it the most logical option. The quality of women available to you may be a factor, and in your mind obviously is, but it takes a back seat to the legal and financial risk associated with various coupling arrangements. Your age may have been a problem for this one woman, but it wouldn't be for a great many women her age. Nonetheless, marriage to a woman of any age and description i…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 06:43 PM
2

Lol is she Indian? Given that she's worried a guy talking to her just wants her "for citizenship," we can fairly safely say no. Sure, there's the odd illegal immigrant to India for neighboring shitholes, but who the hell marries to get Indian citizenship if they're using a matrimony-oriented dating site?
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 06:34 PM
7

You're overlooking the obvious. Her eldest, who might be 15 by now, can watch the other feral spawn in the crack motel while she spends a few days being Jersey Shore trash and paying her way orally.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/19 06:24 AM
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You've said multiple times in this thread that you are a feminist. At the root of feminism is patriarchy conjecture, which is an inherently misandrist belief. I don't doubt that there are men individually about whom you care, but to be any form of feminist requires at least a bit of misandry.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:13 AM
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Kudos to you for defending it; not many women are so inclined, even those active in the MRM who understand the legal and social problems that drive men to it.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:08 AM
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And if you were a person of any worth, your assessment of my statement might matter to me. But since you're a misandrist who puts forth consistently terrible arguments while trying to tone police men, I couldn't care less.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:07 AM
9

A rose by any other name...
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:05 AM
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I care about men's rights but I also care about feminism and it makes no sense for me to have to choose one when they're not mutually exclusive. Of course they are. While an array of different forms of feminism exist, the unifying component is a belief in patriarchy conjecture. If you believe there is a patriarchy and that it needs subverting, you cannot credibly claim to care about men.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:03 AM
6

Look im pro menrights etc but Of course you are. Because we all know the defining feature of supporting men's rights is tone policing men whose speech even slightly unsettles you.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:01 AM
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Why would you want to censor my opinions? You can't seriously be wondering about this. Feminists routinely, through a variety of tactics, try and censor the MRM. And when you come to our communities, almost invariably you fail to participate in good faith, simply mindlessly shilling feminist pablum that holds no appeal to people here. The mods aren't going to censor you just for being wrong, but lots of men are tired of more feminist yammering in what is a male-oriented space, particularly given…
/r/MensRights23/07/19 05:59 AM
6

Both wings do this shit, Right, the left wing version is feminism, the right wing version is traditionalism. Both are gynocentric, and thus both are toxic to men.
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 08:45 PM
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As a girl imma say you don't need a woman to be happy This, as the MGTOW posters here can attest to, is 100% true, though it takes most men many years to realize this, if they ever do.
/r/MensRights22/07/19 08:24 PM
10

Meanwhile, if he sexualizes any of those women he's slept with or aims to sleep with, he's a predator who needs to go to jail. And if he does anything other than celebrate unrestrained female promiscuity, he's a misogynist prick. And if she's had so much as a drop of alcohol in the preceding six months, he's a bona fide rapist.
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 12:55 PM
34

Over the last day or so I've been arguing with this idiotic 19 year old feminist who pays lip service to caring about the odd men's rights issue over in /r/MensRights. Aside from the absurdity of somebody so obviously and naturally ignorant of the MRM trying to speak with any measure of authority, this bitch is under the delusion that MGTOW are functionally synonymous with incels, and that by shaming MGTOW as "incels" and "delusional" she'll achieve some sort of success for the sisterhood. It's …
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 12:52 PM
2

If you can snap your fingers and the unfair laws against men are fixed, will you still be MGTOW? That which is formalized in the law is part of the problem. That which is cultural but independent of the law would remain an issue. So unless you can fix that too, you haven't sufficiently altered the conditions to make not being MGTOW suitable. If your answer is yes, then you really don't care about the law. Drop the bullshot about you're only MGTOW because of unfair laws. The laws are by far the b…
/r/MensRights22/07/19 12:47 PM
1

The MRM and MGTOW are two totally different philosophies. If you're mixing the twp up, you're either ignorant about both philosophies or just intellectual dishonest. Oh, it's always fun when a feminist tries to explain the MRM to somebody who has been actively involved in it for over a decade. This should be fun. The core of MGTOW philosophy is that all men should have nothing to do with women because ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT (AWALT). This is wrong. AWALT is a common statement within MGTOW commun…
/r/MensRights22/07/19 05:04 AM
6

What exactly is your point?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/19 11:46 PM
2

Just put on a wig and claim to be trans and I'm sure you can find a market among SJWs who want to win a woke-off.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 11:09 PM
2

There's the odd semenretention user here, but most of us who've decided that sex is generally a poor investment still masturbate. It's a sufficient substitute, and one that obviates the need to engage with women socially.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 11:02 PM
4

a feminist friend Mistake #1.
/r/MensRights21/07/19 10:43 PM
8

Piracy also has no ads, and doesn't go to support Netflix and their leftist bullshit.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 10:33 PM
-1

reasoning ability Your posts in this thread re: Israel would seem to suggest otherwise.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/19 10:00 PM
-1

No, he seems to be a garden variety neo-Nazi given the MacDonald book he's celebrating.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/19 09:56 PM
1

And yet men are still required to register for the selective services, whereas women are exempt.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/19 09:51 PM
1

Not serving and/or not serving in combat units tends to help with that outcome.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/19 09:50 PM
2

Well, /r/GenderCritical and /r/feminisms remain, so sexism is most definitely okay with the reddit admins, though I fail to see how that pertains to this discussion.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/19 09:47 PM
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That is how it SHOULD be, but not how it is. VAWA/Duluth means you're probably the one going to jail, even if she's unscathed and you're bleeding from the head.
/r/MensRights21/07/19 09:43 PM
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That's theoretically fine if you want to marry, but given that marriage is a terrible bargain men, that strategy would condemn many men to a life of celibacy. What this does evidence, as if it weren't already obvious, is that you never accept a claim of paternity nor pay a cent of support without a court-ordered DNA test.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/19 09:31 PM
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he becomes legally responsible for ANY child born into that union.Yes, even if a DNA test proves the child is not his. That's not actually true. He becomes the presumptive father, but he has a window in which to contest paternity, and if DNA exonerates him, then he's off the hook. Of course, that window is a year in most states, so in practice you're not far off.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/19 09:29 PM
-1

The Red Pill is useless if, like so many men who claim to be Red Pilled, you still make the blue pill choices of marriage and fatherhood.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/19 09:27 PM
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The state doesn't want to be on the hook for all those kids. If some guy becomes the father without questioning anything then the state doesn't have to pay for the kid. If DNA tests were mandatory a ton of guys would get out of paternity and if the mother doesn't disclose who the father is or doesn't know (quite possible) then the state has to either let the kids starve or fork out the money themselves if the mother won't do it. Keep in mind though that many US states spend more on collecting ch…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/19 09:26 PM
1

It was reply to this sub being r/mensrights and not r/mgtow. The two are fundamentally related; that some feminist cannot understand the logical nexus is her issue, not that of the communities at large. You're free to be delusional if you want to. Yes, knowing divorce law and understanding that as a consequence marriage is a bad idea is delusional. We men better get back on the marriage plantation to placate bitter feminists who periodically pretend to care about men's issues.
/r/MensRights21/07/19 09:21 PM
2

I'm sticking around because there can be some decent discussion, but I do agree that as this sub has grown, a lot of people who don't really get MGTOW have become louder parts of the discussion, from authoritarian statists to tradcons. Seeing shit ranging from there being a moral obligation to be fit, to Holocaust denial (in the comments, thankfully not the topics yet) certainly makes this place less desirable. But there also isn't a better sub here for MGTOW, or off of reddit to my knowledge. S…
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 08:22 PM
2

1992 Ürümqi bombings, 1997 Ürümqi bus bombings, 2010 Aksu bombing, 2011 Hotan attack, 2011 Kashgar attacks, April 2014 Ürümqi attack, May 2014 Ürümqi attack, 2014 Kunming attack, etc The Turkistan Islamic Party alone has carried out hundreds of acts of terrorism and is recognized by the EU and the UK as a terrorist organization, and even has ties to Al-Qaeda. More broadly than them, separatist efforts have been going on since the 18th century. To put it in even sharper contrast, in the 1930s mos…
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 06:53 AM
1

Bunnies don't have the state rob me at gun point to support them and their litter of bastards...
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 05:17 AM
5

There is no excuse to be obese today, Personal preference would seem to be the obvious exception. There are people who do not value physical fitness and who derive more pleasure from a sedentary lifestyle and unhealthy diet than they would from the alternative.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 05:04 AM
1

imilarly, a MGTOW man easily can, for any number of reasons, endorse as his ideal political and economic system anything from libertarianism to free-market capitalism to left-wing socialism to right-wing socialism to "don't call me a Nazi" alt-rightism to outright communism to some mixed view-- I disagree with that, insofar as one of the critical features of MGTOW is being left alone and avoiding the burdens society imposes through legislative overreach. And that only squares with libertarianism…
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 04:56 AM
1

The point has never been that all women will do x, but rather that the law enables all women to x, and therefore nothing about an individual woman alters the unreasonable dangers that stem from certain forms of entanglement with them, like marriage. If, in your eyes, concluding that the law makes marriage an unreasonable risk to men makes me as bad feminists, so be it. I'm not interested in pandering to people like you, let alone the "good feminists" who post here periodically with very qualifie…
/r/MensRights21/07/19 12:29 AM
1

use what is worthy and discard what should be discarded. That's a long way of saying "discard it all."
/r/MensRights20/07/19 11:11 PM
1

Yes, better that a man should "defeat" the blue-haired feminists by making the life-ruining mistake of marriage. That's definitely what victory looks like.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 11:09 PM
1

It's going to chase away the women here who are all for men's rights. No, it won't drive away the ones who actually care, like /u/girlwriteswhat, but it may drive away those who express superficial support conditional upon men deferring to them in regulating the tone and scope of discussion. And to them I say good riddance. Men's rights trump female approval.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 11:08 PM
1

by calling it that you're implying that all women are bad. No, that isn't the implication. Rather, the implication is that marriage is a one-sided contract based on the terms of dissolution, and so no man should sign it, regardless of the woman. That's the fatal flaw of the MGTOW movement, and if it wasn't then you'd all be quite happy being gay.. Uhh, I think many MGTOW probably would prefer to be gay, but homosexuality isn't a choice. You cannot will yourself to like cock simply because you de…
/r/MensRights20/07/19 11:04 PM
2

Nope. Prenups can be and routinely are invalidated for a broad array of reasons. Judicial discretion on the matter is nearly unlimited, and given the female-favoring bias of family courts, it routinely is. Even if you sign one that is upheld, you can expect a thrashing in the form of backdoor alimony, since child support cannot be predetermined in a prenup, and the receiving partner need not account for how they spend it.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 11:00 PM
1

you marry the hell out of her. No you don't. Well, maybe YOU do. But men who appreciate the risk of marriage and can perform a simple cost-benefit analysis do not. There is nothing good created in marriage that cannot be established without marriage, at least in secular terms. No guy gets married expected to be divorced, yet half of marriages end that way, and between 70 and 80 percent of said divorces are initiated by women now that no fault divorce is standard.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:59 PM
1

I'll bet $1000 OP subscribe to MGTOW ideology Gee, a woman who objects to men who reject gynocentrism, how shocking.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:56 PM
1

It is not in any way unique to the United States. The divorce laws are fucked across the Anglosphere, and in tons of non-Anglo western countries too. Even in the third world they are often written in ways that favor women. So the fact that divorce may be rarer in a given country provides little comfort. If you're happily married, great. But sensible men eschew making losing bets, which is what marriage is.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:53 PM
2

It should go without saying though that no level of quality attained by your daughters shifts the risk calculus in such a way as to make marrying them a sensible life choice though. Because the complaint made in that review is quite correctly focused on the law. And even if your daughters are the most perfect women on Earth, the law irrationally favors them, so men would have to throw reason to the wind to marry them.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:49 PM
0

Right, but the point is that much like in Myanmar, how a Muslim population is treated depends on ethnicity, since certain Islamic groups have separatist ambitions and a history of terrorism, whereas others do not. So the Uyghurs are treated very differently from other Chinese Muslims.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 10:27 PM
2

That has literally never been true, though it has been part of the marketing for feminism to try and convince the general public to identify as feminist to little success. Just look up the history of first wave feminism, where a group of the wealthiest and most privileged white women were demanding equal rights (the right to vote) without equal responsibilities (the prospect of being drafted), and even then only for white women of means like themselves. They gave zero fucks about poor black wome…
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:25 PM
1

You people? Wow, another leftist bigot spotted. Aren't you running late for your antifa rally? You should be there virtue signaling in front of women whose sexual validation you crave, not here annoying a group of men who don't and never will respect you.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:22 PM
2

anti-sjw crazy people. By definition, being anti-sjw is the sane position.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:21 PM
2

This is honestly terrible advice. It's better than nothing, but what it mostly does is provide a false sense of security, since judges have wide latitude to throw them out, and very often do. Moreover, one thing they categorically cannot cover is child support, which is essentially backdoor alimony. The reason I label it as such is twofold. First, the amount paid has little to no relationship to the actual cost of caring for the child, as is made particularly evident by the cases of celebrities …
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:18 PM
2

Incidentally, this speaks to the fact that what your boyfriend should've done (granted, hindsight is 20/20) was record her behavior, so that you'd be positioned to be taken serious if and when you filed a complaint.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 10:09 PM
1

Well, insofar as divorce is a concern, it does not exist in the Philippines. There is annulment, but unless the woman is exceptionally wealthy and well connected - in which case she'll partner with a local high society man over a random Westerner - it is damn near impossible to get. Of course, offsetting that is the fact that the country has the highest rate of marital infidelity in the world, so it's a great way to wind up a cuckold supporting somebody else's son.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 09:58 PM
1

It means All Women Are Like That. Basically, no matter how certain you are that the woman you fancy is the exception, she isn't, because she's driven by the same biological imperatives as other women, and could at any time exhibit the same bad behavior as other women without consequence given the nature of our laws.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 09:51 PM
1

I almost envy the men they are with, because these women get it. But of course one shouldn't, because how perfect they seem now is irrelevant over time. They always can initiate a divorce and then proceed to divorce rape their male partners while securing decades of financial slavery from him post-divorce in the form of alimony. One should not fall victim to the siren's lure.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 09:49 PM
1

This is a subject that comes up here every so often. You have people who suggest heading to SEA. And if what you want is low risk casual sex, fair enough. But if you get married there, you aren't any better off than in the Western world. By some metrics, you're worse off. Sure, she might cook for you, but she'll also want money to send to her parents in Issan so they can build a house (that is a Thai example, mostly because I know more about Thailand than Indonesia).
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 09:38 PM
2

but also many points of divergence. Please expand on that. I ask because I don't see how one can be genuinely MGTOW without being libertarian, though obviously one can be libertarian without being MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 09:31 PM
5

If that's how you prefer to live, more power to you. But to me, that sounds hellish and unrealistic. Time has value and is the only thing you can't replace. So in not outsourcing menial tasks I don't want to perform to others at a reasonable price point, I'm denying myself happiness for no obvious reason. Spending 50 minutes biking somewhere that I could drive to in 5 minutes is not what I would regard as a good use of time. And reading every bit of fine print ever is silly, simply because adhes…
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 09:30 PM
4

You want to start euthanizing them too? I don't, but I also don't want my money redistributed to them via the government either. If there were no mandatory social welfare system, I imagine you'd find nearly nobody advocating the extreme position he is (and which I find to be a bridge too far, even though I can appreciate the underlying rationale).
/r/MensRights20/07/19 09:14 PM
3

Per the article, women are the ones with the worse financial outcomes, though of course it glosses over the fact that it is a result of their poor choices upon receiving of support the state compelled the man to pay. Not at all shocking that the more productive gender, even though penalized by the state, is still the one which has better post-divorce financial outcomes over the long term.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 09:10 PM
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Setting aside the fact that it mentions no study supporting its theory that men are unmoved by the appearance of wealth, this is to be expected for two reasons: Men are biologically driven and socially conditioned to expect to play the role of provider. Even men who are happy to be provided for are not generally driven to seek a female provider in the same way that women are driven to find a male provider. Because the highest achievers are disproportionately male and women practice hypergamy, th…
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 08:14 PM
5

I know you want to white knight, but just play the odds. The black illegitimacy rate is 77%, so the probability that they both come from two-parent homes is around 5%, even lower if one factors in the divorce rate for married couples.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 07:45 PM
-5

Stand AGAINST the masculinization of women Why? Men are the only sex accountable; if we start to disregard femininity, perhaps women will be held to account too. Moreover, unless you plan to involve yourself with women, which is necessarily always a mistake, why does it matter if they become more masculine?
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 07:41 PM
3

At their very core and by design, unions reward and protect incompetence, because they favor seniority over performance.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 07:38 PM
2

it’s just good form to pay for your date‘s coffee as a dude. Correction: It is good social conditioning as a beta provider to buy a woman's time and attention and act as though yours has no value.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 07:21 PM
1

I'll stick with rap, which aside from suiting my own tastes, has plenty of more red pill stuff to offer. See, for example: Greydon Square - Gone Boy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOtlFDcMOE EMPD - Gold Digger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7LcMjNszDo Wreckonize - Sirens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAcA_eyDCF0 Geto Boys - I'm Not A Gentleman: https://youtu.be/WWfdXs9QrXI Hopsin - Baby Daddy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHtvCHcwPaI
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 01:40 AM
3

I wouldn't lump findom in with the rest, because I think you need to be genuinely mentally ill to have that fetish, whereas the rest of what you mention is the result of social conditioning that functional people can overcome if so inclined.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 01:16 AM
2

Maybe I'm missing something, but if she's cooking and cleaning for you, how is she like a third child? I'm not saying she's worth your time, since I don't think relationships ever are, but it does seem like she's more than pulling her weight.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:29 AM
2

Color me not remotely surprised that her header image is of Megan Rapinoe.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:23 AM
2

Not really. I mean, I get your point as a general rule, but it is also a common feature of Indian culture, and she's Indian.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:22 AM
2

The outcomes surrounding divorce are bad for the individuals For the men, not the women. They benefit from divorce given current law. and the children (if applicable) Women don't care about children. There's a reason most parents who kill or abuse their children are mothers. and then the fallout spreads into the community in every institution in which the divorced people are engaging in activities. Women see society as serving them, so they don't care about abstract social harm. Government expen…
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:21 AM
4

She's not going to have sex with them And this is something men are supposed to care about? From the neck up she looks like Anderson Cooper, so straight men don't want her. And below the neck she's sporting a vagina, so gay men don't want her. has a personality Angry dyke isn't a personality. and is better at sport than them Sure, she may be better at soccer than a randomly selected man, but she represents the zenith of female soccer, and that just isn't all that good, as evidenced by the FC Dal…
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:09 AM
8

mra hates mgtow they see it as us giving up I don't think this is true. Rather, I think as the MRM grows, you get newer, less informed MRAs saying this. But traditionally MGTOW has not been majorly at odds with the MRA community.
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 11:43 PM
-2

You do realize the Jewish conspiracy you're alleging is as insane and removed from facts as the patriarchy theory that powers feminism, right?
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 11:38 PM
6

The problem is one of framing. Feminism as a brand has a bad reputation, but a great many feminists are popular with women who don't identify as feminists, and are tolerated or even defended by gynocentric men (aka most men). Now, I'm all for legislative action and lawfare, but I think one has to be realistic in their expectations and not be led astray by the popularity of labels, because the challenges will come to policies themselves, and at that point we cease to have the popular majority in …
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 11:35 PM
2

So, I'm not sure what "we" means in this case given the diversity in attitudes towards sex in this community, but let me ask you /u/Fullmetalrogue, what is the alternative? If you belong to the subset of users here who do not eschew sex, there isn't much of an alternative. Marriage is a non-starter, so it is either sex that is at least semi-casual or no sex at all. And given that many here who opt for sex simultaneous avoid the entanglement of relationships, the most casual outcome is to be expe…
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 05:44 AM
1

For some anti-man heap of trash, she seems awfully desperate for male attention and validation given some of her tweets showing off her subpar ass.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/07/19 05:37 AM
9

Truth. Keep it on topic. You can be liberal or conservative going your own way. If you're trying to use the government to pickpocket me, you aren't going you're own way. You're just behaving like the gold digging shrews we condemn.
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 12:42 AM
2

Better heartless than spineless. Non serviam.
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 12:39 AM
4

You're right that one particular marriage is of limited value in demonstrating the case against marriage. But you're wrong in your conclusion that the issue is marrying poorly, since that assumes a worthwhile marriage would've otherwise been possible. The woman doesn't actually matter, because the most fundamental problem in modern marriage is family law. The high probability and crippling cost of divorce, to say nothing of the exceptionally poor child custody and support rules, mean that marria…
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 12:38 AM
1

Even if she did kill herself, not your problem.
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 12:33 AM
1

I have zero alts, and I'm not lying. By all means, look through my post history, and you'll see significant participation in r/Israel. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it is possible to be Jewish and not on board with genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights18/07/19 10:20 PM
1

This is a rare Orthodox procedure. It's actually rarer than that. No Modern Orthodox Jews perform mitziza b'peh, and only an extremely small number of outlier sects within the Haredi community perform it. Obviously the practice is indefensible, but as you point out, mentioning it is a bit of a red herring as a criticism of MGM given how rare it actually is.
/r/MensRights18/07/19 08:09 PM
1

As a Jew down a foreskin without his consent, I'd like to tell you to kindly fuck off. Jewish religious custom cannot excuse human rights abuses, which is precisely what MGM is.
/r/MensRights18/07/19 08:06 PM
1

Well you should really b teed off at the East Indians... No we shouldn't. The problem is the laws you cite in the first place, not the existence of a minority group who benefit from this bullshit written by people suffering from white guilt and a desire to virtue signal.
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 07:14 PM
1

Do people still care about this stuff or am I just being paranoid? Some people still definitely do care, but less than was historically the case. Don't worry about it though. You need not announce that you're MGTOW or go into your (lack of a) sex life if you don't want to. If somebody asks if you're dating anybody, just say "not at the moment." If they ask to set you up, politely decline and say you don't have the time because of [insert excuse]. Given the shifting social norms for things like m…
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 06:20 PM
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The only women who care enough to post in MGTOW communities are fat, trashy whores who can't find a willing beta provider and are bitter about it. So, sucks to be you.
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 06:13 PM
1

especially because she's a mother of 2 children If you're pro-pussy pass, which this statement demonstrates, I don't think this is the sub for you.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/07/19 06:04 PM
2

Shit like this has been going on since way before the Cardi B revelation.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/07/19 06:02 PM
2

Nobody wants a job, but unless you win the lotto or inherit a fortune, you need one.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/07/19 05:59 PM
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She's probably a Felon. Felons can't get decent jobs. In which case it'd still be her fault. But let's accept your claim as true, that she's a felon and can't get a "decent" job. There are most definitely "indecent" jobs that give zero fucks about her criminal record that pay well, the most obvious of which is to work as a stripper.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/07/19 05:58 PM
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I just find it quite interesting That's because you're out of your depths. What people object to here is the villainization of men just for being men, and the assertion that common male characteristics are bad. That does not mean that men don't have emotions and that proper psychological health requires that they be able to express them. There is no discord.
/r/MensRights18/07/19 05:50 PM
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Not "just." It's also a marketing gimmick for attractive women, particularly after being shamed for not being feminists (see: Taylor Swift, Katy Perry). And it's a vehicle for advocating the legal formalization of the special treatment that non-celebrity attractive women already enjoy (see: alimony, child custody laws). And it's also a brilliant conspiracy theory for villainizing all men and granting victim status to all women in a culture that venerates victimhood (see: patriarchy conjecture).
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 03:48 AM
1

Yes they can. Plenty of countries have extradition treaties with the US and would extradite you. But that aside, they could seize any assets you have in the US, or demand that financial institutions with US operations refuse to serve you as a client. Having said this, I'm unaware of any data speaking to the frequency with which ex-citizens have been arrested for tax evasion, so I assume it is exceptionally rare.
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 03:13 AM
1

The extra fun part is that you can still be obliged to file tax returns for five years after renouncing citizenship, and depending on your taxation level pre-renunciation, still be compelled to pay taxes for up to five years. Literally the only other country to attempt this in recent years was Eritrea, a country with the distinct honor of being referred to as the "North Korea of Africa," and even then they capped what they wanted at 2%, and they effectively stopped the practice because countries…
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 01:42 AM
9

Go quench your white knight thirst with some gamer girl bathwater and fuck off.
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 01:16 AM
2

I assume the lunatics doing this are at least somewhat interested in findom (the most irrational and disturbing of all fetishes, save for pedophilia).
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 01:15 AM
8

Apparently, men will fuck anyone? Many men, yes. OLD makes pretty clear that even unattractive women have plenty of choice if what they want is sex. Commitment is a harder ask, but even then, it is manageable for them if they don't try and fuck around until they're post-second fertility window and then try to settle down and find a man to finance her pair of bastards. An ugly woman who's 24 and actually has a decent personality and brings something to the table (like cooking skills and a good pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 01:00 AM
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It's a little more complicated than that. You must disclose your non-US bank accounts and overseas assets to the IRS and file an extensive and more invasive than usual tax return. Then, depending upon the amount of taxable income you earn, the local tax rate, and the status of tax treaty between countries, you may or may not owe taxes. So, to give a few rough illustrative examples: You move to Saudi Arabia and teach for $80k per year, you will pay $0 in US taxes, because you are below the foreig…
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 10:46 PM
2

perhaps not exactly mgtow related I think it is. I know in the MRM there are some who insist that men's rights doesn't belong to either side of the political spectrum, and insofar as anti-male/male disposability is a prominent feature of both sides I can see their point. But fundamentally, MGTOW is a libertarian movement, since it is about eschewing entanglement with the state and about wanting to be left alone to live on one's own terms. Any expansion of the state is a net burden on men for the…
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 05:10 PM
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Because it's a toxic sub. It's a sub that doesn't conceal its anger and disgust, but which is driven by reality and which endorses the only sensible course of action for men in our current world (not marrying, procreating, or cohabitating).
/r/MensRights17/07/19 05:03 PM
2

Oh good, another thirsty white knight who doesn't understand the difference between MGTOWs and incels.
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 04:42 PM
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Eh quoting r/MGTOW is a bit dumb And why is that?
/r/MensRights17/07/19 04:27 PM
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it is her vagina, not our business Sure, as long as she doesn't go on the dole or demand special treatment. But if you played the odds, she's doing both, so at that point it very much is our business.
/r/MensRights17/07/19 04:25 PM
1

What's wrong with having 7 children though? The answer should be self-evident.
/r/MensRights17/07/19 04:24 PM
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She doesn't "know her worth," but rather what she wants others to value her at and what she's brainwashed herself into believing is true, but which bears no relationship to reality.
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 04:21 PM
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Depending on where he lives, managing that ranges from hard to illegal. I know that even in my mid-20s I got turned down by multiple urologists, and it wasn't until my the very end of my 20s they I found a urologist willing to give me one. Meanwhile, in a number of countries, there is a legal minimum age for a vasectomy if childless, ranging from 25 in countries like Brazil and Denmark, to 40 in Hungary. Others, like the Czech Republic, disallow it without children (in their case, three of them)…
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 04:03 PM
1

As far as I know the Aliyah is for jewish people outside Israel, You are correct. I do plan to make a conversion in the future for religious reasons, Fair enough, I guess that's a logical enough reason, if only because a proper conversion (read: Orthodox) is going to necessarily entail at least some Hebrew competence. Do keep in mind that some key features of religious Judaism are pretty fundamentally incompatible with MGTOW (I'm an ex-Haredi).
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 06:02 AM
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Not that you should have to praise somebody for exhibiting basic human decency, but kudos to the pregnant friend for giving a flat and unambiguous "no" to this shitty request. Unfortunately, women so motivated can easily secure this anyway, via craigslist or ebay or facebook or any number of other platforms where shitbag women sell used pregnancy tests for exactly this purpose.
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 12:56 AM
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Are all women like that? AWALT is literally one of the most commonly used phrases in the MGTOW community, and it isn't an accident. Does GYOW mean celibacy? This is a personal choice, in part because MGTOW is a bit of a continuum. On the one extreme you have men who you might term "barely MGTOW" in that they won't marry, have kids, cohabitate, or comingle finances, but they're open to long term relationships. On the other extreme, you have men who eschew any and all contact with women beyond tha…
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 12:53 AM
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Because your comment boils down to NAWALT, which is something that this community rejects.
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 12:07 AM
2

I don't need to know anything more about you to be able to discern that you're a selfish, bitter, fuck (or just a coward). It's awfully easy to play hero online, when you don't have to actually take any risk. We get it, you're morally superior in your own mind. But take your tradcon faggotry elsewhere.
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:59 PM
1

You can frame it that way if you want. But I'd push back and argue that it is simply men refusing to treat themselves as disposable in the same way that society has always demanded. Nobody is going to look out for you other than you, and society is going to stop giving a single shit about this guy in less than a week, while he'll have a painful and miserable life going forward because he chose to be heroic. You can champion some tradcon bullshit about masculinity if it helps you sleep, but it do…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:54 PM
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I mean, there are arguments to be made for somebody prepared, but they aren't compelling. The most obvious one is the improvement of life expectancy, which of course you'd answer back with by pointing out the dramatic increase in suicide among divorce rate, which is material given the prevalence of divorce. They can also make the dual income argument, but that can be rebutted by pointing out the inclination of women to leave the work force and become dependents who are then owed alimony post-div…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:42 PM
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Hebrew Why would you do this to yourself? Unless you plan to make aliyah, in which case you'll get a free ulpan education, this is far too little utility to justify this torture.
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:36 PM
1

I think my mother is better than most about these things - she doesn't push and broadly seems to understand not marrying or dating, and when I was living nearby and needed a ride to my vasectomy she gave me one despite thinking I shouldn't get one - and even she, if the subject came up in context, would suggest that maybe one day I'll marry if I meet the right women. She doesn't seem capable of understanding that no such woman exists, because even if NAWALT, the law doesn't suddenly change in su…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:35 PM
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Why do they include the last part? It seems to justify violence as long as the recipient can take it. It literally says the exact opposite. It is preempting the standard "but muh female strength" argument used to excuse violence by women.
/r/MensRights16/07/19 11:16 PM
1

Which is a much smaller ask that attaching themselves to her and sticking around for a couple of decades to parent the unplanned bastard.
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 08:09 PM
1

That is plainly false. What is true is that the reason it was adopted in the US, where the predominant religion is not one which involves a mandate for circumcision, is that it was pushed for and first went mainstream as a means of reducing masturbation. But that would still be multiple millennia after it was already established Jewish practice, and over a millennium after Islam adopted it.
/r/MensRights16/07/19 11:33 AM
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Fuck off. Nobody likes a white knight. And griping to us won't get you the pussy you thirst after.
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:17 AM
2

Yeah, but would you want to pair up with this cunt?
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:04 AM
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Can't really be hurt if you're not emotionally invested. By the metric of emotional harm, sure. But things like domestic violence arrests if cohabiting (and even if you're the victim thanks to VAWA), false rape accusations after a rough breakup, the poisoning of your social circle, and the monetary costs if you're paying for more than half the date costs, are all very real costs possible even absent an emotional investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 10:19 PM
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The only part I'd push back on is your bit at the end about age. TRP doesn't have some expiration date. Some men who embrace TRP may eventually give into social pressures to marry and/or the biological drive to reproduce, but that isn't a fundamental feature of TRP. Many who start that way, instead of eventually adopting the lifescript but with an effort to manipulate dynamics by "holding frame" et al, either stay that way as a bachelor for most or all of their lives, or go on to become MGTOW af…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:40 PM
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women don't care about the rampant inequality and unfairness that men face but, look at all the men who go to the women's march and support feminist causes. Said men aren't going because they care about women, but because they're employing the sneaky fucker strategy (see: Gad Saad).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 11:25 AM
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The problem rests on your understanding of the rationale behind marriage. These days it is often sold as an essential part of personal happiness, but that is fairly new notion within human history. It has traditionally been tactical, a means of forging political alliances, of managing and growing familial wealth, and of providing a stable mechanism in which to produce offspring. The fact that for most of human history marriage was arranged and spouses had minimal if any pre-wedding contact point…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 10:06 AM
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, I will not be trying cohabitation Nor would I suggest otherwise. I'm trying to clarify what the law says with respect to common law marriage. But even setting it aside, the way domestic violence law works per VAWA means that cohabitation is a needless risk. You can be an actual victim and still be arrested just for being male.
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 06:13 AM
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More like men sent their own way (MSTOW). They're either incels or men who failed and had a bad divorce. Let's say nobody successful with women is part of the movement. So in your mind it is impossible for a man to perform a cost-benefit analysis and simply decide that involving themselves with women isn't a winning proposition? Why exactly is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:10 AM
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MGTOW is a bunch of whiny womanly losers who can't get laid, This whole "MGTOW are incels" line is incredibly tired and exceptionally stupid. Incels, by definition, want women sexually and/or for a relationship, but cannot have them. MGTOW, by contrast, do not want relationships, or in some cases sex, and therefore decline to expend effort in pursuit of them. You can reasonably argue, as you have, that MGTOW is a misnomer insofar as the litmus test for "membership" is one's views of women, or at…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:08 AM
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but who do you guys fuck if you go away from women? Let me note first that what you describe - eschewing sexual contact with women - is certainly popular with a subset of MGTOW, but it isn't a hard and fast rule like not cohabitating. So some MGTOW do have casual sex. Others limit sex to prostitutes, especially overseas and/or in countries where it is legal, under the belief that it is lower risk and has better ROI. And others simply do not have sex in the same way that members of certain religi…
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 03:34 AM
1

He didn't. But even supposing he did, their conduct was wildly inappropriate given that he was working and not well positioned to tell them to fuck off. And, of course, it is incredibly dangerous to distract a driver like that.
/r/MensRights15/07/19 12:45 AM
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I experienced similar shit in high school because I was an Orthodox Jew, and my religious beliefs at the time precluded any physical contact with women, which of course some awful human beings took as an indication that they should totally disrespect my physical space.
/r/MensRights15/07/19 12:43 AM
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I hate this trope, though it is one common in the MRM. Feminism was quite literally never good or reasonable. Even the first wave, which by all rights was far more reasonable in its goals than today's feminist movement, demanded the benefits of citizenship (the vote) without the burdens (the draft). They demanded a right that still many men at the time lacked, without any of the same obligations those men had. Moreover, it was a movement of wealthy white women whose advocacy was on behalf of wea…
/r/MensRights15/07/19 12:39 AM
2

If you allow for no restriction on negative female behavior, or even celebrate negative behavior, women will behave badly. This, by the way is Econ 101: if you want more of something you subsidize it, if you want less of something you tax it. In this case, a failure to punish is a subsidy.
/r/MensRights15/07/19 12:33 AM
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What are you talking about? No one considers this positive, empowering behavior. This is posted on r/trashy. Everyone considers it to be trashy, harassing behavior. What an idiotic take. Do you think these women consider their behavior trashy and harassing? What about their awful friends with whom they intend to share the videos they took? Just because a small but growing number of mostly men on a couple of modest sized subreddits see this for the outrage that it is, it doesn't mean that there a…
/r/MensRights15/07/19 12:31 AM
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$1000 a month doesn't make you a 'dependent of the welfare system' though. Of course it does.
/r/MensRights14/07/19 03:42 AM
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35 of the 36 threads are by two people, and they have fewer than 150 subscribers. It's a trivially small collective of psychotic trash.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 12:51 AM
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“A common law marriage is established by the mutual consent or agreement of the parties to be husband and wife, followed by a mutual and open assumption of a marital relationship.” People v. Lucero, 747 P.2d 660, 663 (Colo. 1987). So either you're lying or you fucked up, but just living together doesn't create a common law marriage.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 12:46 AM
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We have the same law in some states here in the US, they call it common law marriage and after one year of living together in my state you're technically married and she can take half your shit when you wise up and bounce her ass. This is not even close to correct. In every single one of the small number of remaining states that still offers common law marriage, one of the key requirements is that the couple "holds themselves out as married." You cannot accidentally become common law married any…
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 12:42 AM
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I know you're used to men pretending your opinions are worth a damn, but this isn't the community for it.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 12:31 AM
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As en vogue as it is among some to shit on millennials, do keep in mind that said generation is the one not falling into the marriage trap of previous generations.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 12:30 AM
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I can see why ops wife would hide it. Okay, but surely you can also see why that choice would invite considerable suspicion.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:49 PM
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As mistakes go, this was fairly minor one, and something that you can correct (moving, at least post-service, is easy). What you need to make sure you avoid is: fatherhood, marriage, comingling of finances, and cohabitation. That is the bare minimum. Many here go further and eschew long term relationships, or even casual dating. More extreme still, many abstain from sex, or engage only under very narrow conditions (e.g. with a pro in Southeast Asia) to mitigate MeToo risks given what's going on.…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:28 PM
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Oh good, more tradcon bullshit. 😒 It's perfectly reasonable to eschew sex, as many do here, because under current conditions it would often fail a cost-benefit analysis. But the framing established in this is that the problem is premarital promiscuity, and thus the solution is marriage. And marriage is as antithetical to MGTOW as it gets; it is a losing proposition for men. If you're some religious nutter and value Christian teachings over your personal welfare, so be it. But that's just tradcuc…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:18 PM
1

you've got a job. I think you've missed the point of retirement.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:12 PM
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what? that "all women are bitches" or that you're just an incel? You're in the wrong sub, moron. Calling somebody an incel has no persuasive value here. More to the point, it wouldn't matter if 99% of women were fantastic, because the problem is with the legal structure supporting marriage. It simply isn't a risk worth taking if you're a man.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:09 PM
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That's like saying "gotta learn how to spin the cylinder correctly before playing Russian Roulette." You're asking the impossible, instead of doing the easy and logical thing, not playing at all.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:06 PM
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That's irrelevant to his point though. You don't get to be celebrated as independent when you're quite literally a dependent of the welfare system.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 10:20 PM
1

Not surprising. It's populated by a bunch of white people who think all white rappers are terrible (despite there being plenty of great ones), that rap with lyrical substance is crap, and that mumble rap is where it's at. Consistently, if they champion a rapper, you can be confident said rapper is trash.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 10:17 PM
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Since I assume by this question you already listen to some, I'll skip over the obvious big names and throw out some people worth a listen, though they skew old, as I find the quality of rap generally to be declining: Apathy, Blood of Abraham, Dax, Freddie Foxxx, Grynch, Ill Biskits, Louis Logic, Masta Ace, Ras Kass, and Viro the Virus.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 10:14 PM
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That I don't particularly care about; it's the absolute lack of talent that I find to be the problem. Seriously, if Da Brat or MC Lyte is the best women have to offer (and it is), why ever listen to female rap? The two I named are passable in terms of quality, whereas there are hundreds of great male rappers. So listening to female rape is slumming it for no obvious reason.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 10:06 PM
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Critically though, actually changing the custody situation requires the court to act, which requires the other parent to challenge the custody arrangement. So there's not much the OP can do without the father going to court, which is an expensive proposition.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 09:57 PM
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Dude if he wants to he gets to Literally nobody is suggesting otherwise. But having a right and exercising it are two different things.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 08:34 AM
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I do hope that her husband has the good sense to file for divorce while she's behind bars. While it doesn't guarantee anything, it is his best bet to break with her without owing alimony.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 03:29 AM
1

My first guess based on the title would've been Thailand, or at least somewhere in SEA, where this attitude is fairly common. Women demand male resources, but so long as they get enough of them, they turn a blind eye to prostitution and/or mistresses.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 03:04 AM
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and that I'm about to marry an amazing woman who is quite frankly my best friend. I realize that you're not soliciting any advice, nor is this your primary point, but I would urge you to reconsider. Divorce laws are wildly stacked against men, and no matter how confident you are in your relationship now, divorce is exceptionally common. There is nothing that marriage confers that a long term relationship lacks that is worth the risk you're taking.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 03:00 AM
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Meanwhile, we're supposed to believe every woman who claims their ex was abusive or a psycho or a stalker or harasser or whatever post-breakup slander they invoke to create a profile for themselves as victims.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 02:54 AM
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There's a reason (beyond the obvious population advantage) that the largest men's rights activist community is based in India. Despite often being portrayed by the western media as awful for women - and in fairness it certainly can be, at least for poor women - it is fucking terrible for men of all classes.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 02:11 AM
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Oh, it gets worse. 498A has mandatory arrest provisions that extend to the man's family. So he and his parents get to all go to jail courtesy of the vindictive future ex-wife.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 01:51 AM
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I know many people don't like paying divorce lawyers (who would?), but better money go to them than the shrew ex-wife.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 01:34 AM
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In american she would likely have a court appointed attorney This is not correct. It is theoretically possible, though rare, to find a divorce attorney who will take a case pro bono, but there is no such thing as a court appointed divorce lawyer in the US. This is because divorces are considered civil cases, and there is no legal right to an attorney in civil cases. Also, as an aside, we know that the court case didn't occur in the US because the post itself states that it took place in Germany.…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 01:32 AM
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That's actually standard for civil litigation in common law nations. Look at civil lawsuits in the US, and the original complaint ends with a "prayer for relief." And that makes sense because a secondary definition of the word prayer is "an earnest request or wish."
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 11:26 PM
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Here you go: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/calling-wife-prostitute-grave-provocation-supreme-court-absolves-woman-of-murder/story-Gnnk1qUEIU23d0p3uLXuRI.html
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 11:22 PM
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Part of it depends on how you define superpower. For example, there's a reasonable argument to be made that nuclear weapons makes a country a superpower. Beyond that, size and capacity of a military would be an obvious standard. By either metric India would quality. And certainly they have considerable purchasing power as a function of population. But if relative wealth is a necessary condition, then India will never be a superpower. They still have more people who engage in open air defecation …
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 11:18 PM
1

I'm curious as to the basis upon which you reached the conclusion that India is preferable.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 11:14 PM
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Note that he said "paying the metro fare," not using it. I don't know what the situation is in Delhi, but at least in many US cities you can illegally ride for free with relatively low risk of getting caught because the stations don't use turn styles or gates to restrict access.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 11:13 PM
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Bah Basic Allowance for Housing; money the military gives married enlistees so that they can live in civilian housing with their spouse. Being the ticket out of living in military barracks, this is one of the incentives that coaxes men into making the mistake of rushing to marry before enlisting.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 10:35 PM
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None of those make the case against joining, though there are plenty of arguments against military service unrelated to women. What they make the case against is something which our laws and social attitudes already make evident, which is that marriage, reproduction, comingling of finances, and cohabitation are all terrible ideas for men.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 10:33 PM
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"I enjoy a number of things" but doesn't name a single one. Existing is not a personality, dumb cow.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/19 10:14 PM
5

It's incredibly weird, isn't. Like, suppose you dislike TRP. Why join a community opposing it? If you're a reactionary feminist I get it to a point, though who else would possibly care what you have to say about it? The sneaky fucker strategy that male feminists/white knights employ (see: Gad Saad) couldn't possibly work online, so why would men join in?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/19 10:04 PM
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Safety: If you're alone as a female, men are scary. I do think it is worth pointing out that even if a majority of perpetrators of violent crimes are male, so too are the victims of violent crime. How are female hygiene products so high taxed?! They aren't. Or to be more precise, 14 states do not subject female hygiene products to any tax, and the remaining 36 subject it only to the same sales tax that (nearly) all goods are subject to. So if they are high, it is only because the sales tax of th…
/r/MensRights12/07/19 08:03 AM
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I have a home, I’m married to a girl I love and we have a beautiful daughter. Might I ask then why you participate in a MGTOW sub?
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 12:12 AM
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Why all the bill burr quotes? From what i understand, this guy is turbo cucked. Because pre-marriage Bill presented himself as being red pilled (not sure he used the term, but he definitely express red pill sentiments), and those points don't cease to be valid just because he proved too stupid to follow his own advice.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 12:10 AM
3

Bought mine and sold it 5 years later at a substantial profit. It can be, but a housing bubble can always burst, and there's good reason to expect that the current bubble will burst in the relatively near future. Even setting that aside, property is only a good investment if bought in the right area under the right financial terms and sold at the right time. Rates of home ownership are decreasing generally, so the era of houses being a cash cow are probably behind us in much of the country.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 12:02 AM
3

Renunciation is key, though even then you can potentially owe taxes for up to five years after renunciation. And legally you cannot renounce without already having or simultaneously acquiring alternate citizenship.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 06:44 PM
1

It's quite sad really, Why? And I mean that seriously. How the hell does the extinction of some species of bird impact you in any way?
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 06:40 PM
4

Theoretically they could prosecute your for tax evasion, and many countries do extradite to the US. I don't know quite how common actual prosecution is though.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 05:51 PM
8

One also has to love that the news outlet defends itself in part by suggesting that neither rival has refused to welcome an embedded reporter into their campaign, crucially overlooking the fact that said men are being covered by men, and thus they are not faced with the same potential issues.
/r/MensRights11/07/19 05:14 PM
1

Why are sports even separated into genders? Probably because in everything other than perhaps figure skating and rhythmic gymnastics it would spell the end of profession female athletics.
/r/MensRights11/07/19 04:04 PM
1

You realize the period between World Cups is a qualifying period, and so proper accounting looks at the whole cycle rather than just the World Cup itself, right? And so any honest way of looking at it has men drastically outperforming women for that very reason.
/r/MensRights11/07/19 03:59 PM
2

Calling them a hate group is perhaps going a bit far, as I think you'd be hard pressed to prove that they conform to any generally accepted definition of one. What is fair to say is that they are an entity which was formed in response to real issues of racism, though from the outset they used dubious tactics to advance their agenda. As time has gone on, they've proven to put profit over ethics (despite technically being a nonprofit), and have fallen victim to mission creep, such that they functi…
/r/MensRights11/07/19 03:50 PM
1

If you don't mind my asking, what are the points raised by feminists that resonate with you? I ask mostly because I'm hard pressed to imagine one that withstands serious scrutiny, even if on first blush and with the right framing, it sounds compelling.
/r/MensRights11/07/19 03:44 PM
2

Meanwhile, eligible black and latino voters have consistently lower turnout rates than white voters. I guess they missed the memo that they're being oppressed to hell, caring about politics is a non-option, and they must vote. What would we do without holier than thou white progressives enlightening us of the plight of minority communities that its own members don't seem to feel?
/r/MensRights11/07/19 03:41 PM
1

IDC what words are coming out of someone's mouth you can't just tackle them. I would agree if the speech is merely offensive, but the guy challenged him to a fight ("do you want to step outside?"). Regardless of what the law says, at that point I think your ability to play victim has ended.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 03:35 PM
8

And American citizens have it the worst, since it is the only nation with citizenship-based taxation. So, if for example, tomorrow one picked up and relocated to the Philippines, running an entirely local enterprise and paying local taxes, having no ties to the US beyond a social security number, you're still obligated per FATCA to disclose your overseas bank accounts and file complex tax returns in the US, the end result of which may be owing US taxes. The only escape is renunciation, the proce…
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 03:28 PM
9

That's because you have a functioning brain, and aren't also attempting to maliciously distort reality to political ends. The way the left processes his statement, he is presumed to have grabbed them without pre-authorization, because as an entitled billionaire he expected them not to protest, and reality bore it out. But then, what do you expect from a subset of the population which believes that consent can be withdrawn retroactively?
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 03:23 PM
2

Please have something to say Funny how 0% of the profiles making demands as to the quality of messages directed at them feature any useful information about themselves that would make starting a remotely substantive conversation a reasonable ask. But then, why expend even five seconds of effort when a sea of thirsty fucks will fall all over themselves for the opportunity to waste their money on your ass?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/19 02:52 PM
2

They always talk WNBA and bringing it to Toronto. N Pffft. Canada couldn't even keep a "professional" women's hockey league afloat; it just shut down this year after paying salaries for the first time (no player made over $10k CAD). I'd love to see money wasted expanding the WNBA only for said teams to fail too.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 12:10 PM
1

You can demand whatever you want, but you have no capacity to force her to take either action. The only thing in your control is your own action, namely civil litigation, and the deck is relatively stacked against you there too.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 12:08 PM
4

Fuck off with this anti-semitic bullshit. I'm Jewish; feel free to look through my posting history, and you'll see that I'm anything but a feminist.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 12:05 PM
2

Based on her BMI and demography, 12-15 years I'd guess.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/19 01:43 AM
5

Relative to her age she looks decent, the problem is simply that a decent 49 year old woman is still functionally worthless in a sex/dating context.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/19 01:43 AM
1

Since only rich people owned slaves, a large proportion of slave owners in America were Jewish What, in your mind, is a large proportion? Because of course Jews have always been a small minority in the US, and until relatively recently have typically been poor.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 01:26 AM
1

I don't think he's actually surprised, because she's said numerous comparable things over the years when they've appeared together in various media. This shit was painfully obvious to anybody who saw them together on DVDASA years back.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 12:26 AM
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I had to work five years (5 Summer breaks, age 13-18) to afford my License because my Parents didn't want to pay for it and after I got it everyone just shrugged it off. Then out of nowhere, they pay for my Sister's license (She failed the test twice) and after she passed the test after a third attempt, everyone was congratulating her and telling her how awesome she is. They sound like shitheads. I hope you've distanced yourself accordingly.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 11:17 PM
2

And, all by the same people who would argue that you don't choose what you're attracted to. It's fascinating, isn't it? Homosexuality isn't a choice, but apparently being attracting to dudes on estrogen is?
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 11:09 PM
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Well, it is certainly the business of those whom she's attempting to lure into some form of a relationship, since physical attraction is a key element, and makeup is an excellent means of disguising an ugly face.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 11:07 PM
1

Anyone willing to have a relationship of many years with you will probably marry you eventually. This is increasingly untrue as more men wake up to how dreadfully they'll be fucked over when said marriage collapses, as many do. There's a reason the marriage rate is dropping, and it most definitely isn't, as some feminist-written think pieces insist, because men aren't good enough or are immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 10:04 PM
1

Yes, but there are jobs that are far worse that pay less at the same time. Are you really telling me they are worse off and more deserving of sympathy than coal miners or sewer inspectors or crime scene cleaners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:29 PM
3

You realize most of these women are junkies, right? I think you're confusing the average hooker with the sort of hooker the OP is talking about. UHNW individuals, particularly ones who want somebody presentable to take out and not just get a quicky blowjob from, aren't hiring $10 crackheads picked up off of MLK Blvd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:23 PM
1

Technically sugar baby money is considered a gift Citation needed. I'm sure they would make that claim if audited, but I'm unaware of any IRS guidance or court ruling affirming that notion. Particularly if it is their sole means of support, and they have anything resembling a signed contract and/or regular payments, it would seem hard to argue that it isn't a job with taxable income.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:19 PM
1

The biggest tax dodgers are millionaires and billionaires anyway. That's just not true. To dodge one's taxes is to fail to pay what is legally owed. Using loopholes that you don't believe should exist but which nonetheless remain in place is tax minimization, not dodging. And minimization is something every person engages in to the extent practical. Don't you take every deduction to which you are entitled? Of course you do, everybody does, provided they understand how to claim said deductions or…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:17 PM
2

One needn't be a lawyer to see the ways in which our broken legal system creates contempt for the law and a lack of faith in our system of government, though you'd be hard pressed to find a lawyer who doesn't recognize that. What's scary is that as thoroughly fucked up as the US legal system is, it is actually far better than what you find in most countries. In places like the UK or India or Israel, it is far worse.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 04:57 PM
2

Begone THOT Jr.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 07:54 AM
3

It depends. 29 states and DC have laws that establish a right to compensation for time served in prison for a wrongful conviction, though the remaining 21 do not. And of course among the 29, the amount you're entitled to may not be all that much, and it may not include repayment of legal fees accrued defending oneself if you hired your own attorney. And many of those states have certain terms that limit who can receive compensation; for example if you provided a confession following a coercive i…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 07:10 AM
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Potentially, yes. You can sue her civilly of your own accord, and you may well prevail if the evidence is overwhelming that she lied, but even then the size of the judgement matters less than her ability to pay.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 06:33 AM
2

I think the country where it remains most common is Vietnam. Other countries, like East Timor, Indonesia, and Nigeria eat it too.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:56 PM
1

because we all agree that eating sharks is wrong. No "we" don't. You think it is wrong, and perhaps a majority of people here do, but it is not a universal truth, as evidenced by the fact that many people continue to eat it. And the endangered argument doesn't pass muster because very few species are actually endangered, and in the case of those exceptions the practice is already illegal even in countries where shark fin is popular. I've eaten shark fin a few times, even served it at an event I …
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:52 PM
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Those women need to go to jail. But they won't, because defamation is a civil offense, and the remedy is financial. They'd have to be criminally charged for filing a false report or something equivalent depending on local law, and that very rarely happens. And, even when it does happen, the sentences are almost always exceptionally light compared to what they could and should be. For example, in the UK the offense is "perverting the course of justice" and that allows for up to life in prison, bu…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:38 PM
5

Traditional Chinese Medicine In other words folklore without scientific grounding, and thus unworthy of consideration.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/07/19 05:15 PM
1

If one buisness alone decides that its employees can wear Jean's and a t-shirt then peoples view of that company will degrade. I would push back and suggest that companies can be practical. For example, Quinn Emanuel is one of the best law firms in the US by any metric you'd care to use. They have no dress code beyond requiring employees wear shoes. Otherwise, when their attorneys are grinding out brutal hours, they can wear whatever they wish. Obviously if/when they're in court they must adhere…
/r/PussyPassDenied09/07/19 05:11 PM
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If these women ever draw a crowd, and if they ever generate the money the men do for their World Cup, I'd be in full support of women getting equal pay. And I doubt if anybody here would disagree with that. I'm all for market-driven compensation. If your barrier for entry into the equal pay argument is parity with men's athletic performance then you're establishing an impossible standard that women will never meet, and you know that. I'm not establishing any standard. I am merely saying that one…
/r/MensRights09/07/19 12:35 PM
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It's a matter of personal preference obviously. Given that I'd sooner live in the Burmese jungle than pay child support, I'd see an abortion as pure upside. But even for people wired more like you, consider how many of the men who commit suicide do so because they've been kept away from their children while being forced under penalty of incarceration to pay backbreaking levels of child support. I'd say that's a far worse outcome than the fetus never being carried to term.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 05:12 AM
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Why the fuck would this be desirable? It still rests on the man being the provider, and we still live in a society with lopsided divorce laws with plenty of Christians winding up making use of said laws. Christianity is just a different brand of gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 05:10 AM
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The team was under 15, so the players were 12-14. One typically turns 14 at some point during the 8th grade. So yes, there may have been some high school freshman on the team, but there were definitely a number of middle school players.
/r/MensRights09/07/19 12:52 AM
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Tbh I'm more the dude banging your wife's and making you little bitches cry because you can't satisfy a woman :) Maybe you've not noticed where you are, but we're all anti-marriage, and a great many of us are anti-relationships. So you're not fucking anybody here's wife, nor do we particularly care what diseased holes you do or don't fuck.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 09:47 PM
2

But like, focus on the other ones. You mean the amish ones who are going to marry in their own community? Because otherwise, I think you'd be hard pressed to evidence that there is a material difference between the average 30 year old woman on tinder and the average 30 year old woman not on tinder.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 09:43 PM
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No just the idiots who disagree with me. More typically men Nobody gives a shit you Lena Dunham wannbe.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/07/19 09:05 PM
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I love to go to the club and dance This is supposed to be a selling point? You like to go to loud, overpriced venues where you can coax strange betas into wasting money on overpriced drinks for you in between spots of dancing with other elephant-sized "models?" I work really hard on my body Overeating isn't hard work. I have 5 children, but don't worry only 2 live with me. It 5 kids weren't a dealbreaker, the rest ought to be. If only two live with her, then either she's old as fuck and/or start…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/19 08:57 PM
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Well what are the arguements for neutrality in sports? Because neutrality in all things is fair. If, in the area of athletics that results in the end of professional female athletics in most sports, so be it. By the same turn, if that results in the end of male presence in other areas, so be it.
/r/MensRights08/07/19 08:41 PM
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Just look up a world map on honor killings, then find a woman in one of those places and stay there. Why would that be desirable? First, while those societies may not be feminist, they are no less gynocentric. Second, those societies are horrible for men too. In what reality is marriage so desirable that it makes it worth living in Iran, Iraq, or Pakistan, the leaders in honor killing?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/19 08:37 PM
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Eh, Peterson is an explicitly anti-MGTOW tradcon. Extract whatever value from him that you can (if any), but don't go full Peterson.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 08:31 PM
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Reminds me of one of my friends, who is a great guy but an absolute moron sometimes. He was introduced to a rather attractive woman who was moving out of town in a couple of weeks, and she was clearly throwing herself at him. Ideal for something brief and casual. He passed. Fast forward several months and he flies half way across the country to go to a wedding he'd have otherwise skipped because it was in the same city she'd moved to, and he now decided he wanted to fuck her. They'd been texting…
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 08:29 PM
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Unfortunately the BBC updated today, the judge is getting off scott free: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-48909227
/r/MensRights08/07/19 08:22 PM
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As it happens, that decision was just made today...she is not: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-48909227
/r/MensRights08/07/19 08:18 PM
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Worked out for the best then. Would you have wanted to pay her child support for two decades, or worse yet stick with that dumpster fire bitch?
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 08:16 PM
13

The year I spent seeing a female counselor was the worst year of my life. And I think it speaks in part to why many men either don't seek mental help or don't stick with it when it proves necessary. The profession is overwhelmingly dominated by women, most of whom evidence zero understanding or concern for men's issues, and instead are likely to be driven by the misandrist APA guidelines for treating men. If your insurance company publishes a directory of providers, look at the Behavioral Health…
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 08:12 PM
1

if you want to counter him you could say that there is les revenue in the female cup because the marketing around it is a lot smaller as well. You could say that, but it is mere supposition. We have no reasonable basis to assume that if there were equal spend on promotion the revenue generated would be equal. Would it increase viewership/revenue? Almost certainly. Would it create parity? Almost certainly not.
/r/MensRights08/07/19 07:52 PM
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This isn't a conversation about female athletic prowess vs male athletic ability. We're talking about equal pay. They're intimately related though. Pay depends on revenue, revenue depends on interest, and interest depends on the caliber of athletics on display. So the comparatively modest skills of the women's team mean they receive less viewership, which means less revenue is generated, which means they get paid less. That is fundamentally fair. If anything, as demonstrated by pay relative to r…
/r/MensRights08/07/19 07:48 PM
1

and they probably threw the game. Right, I'm sure they wanted to be an international laughing stock by losing to a group of middle school boys who would've been expected to lose.
/r/MensRights08/07/19 07:43 PM
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Why do people keep saying this as if it even matters towards the argument of pay? Two reasons: 1) Because one of the arguments being made for higher pay for women is that they're "better" than the men, and that is demonstrably false. 2) Because it speaks in part to why internationally women's soccer is worth so much less. The best women's team in the world loses to middle school aged boys, so why would the average soccer fan be interested in watching that, any more than the average baseball fan …
/r/MensRights08/07/19 07:39 PM
1

and women in gender neutral sports would be discriminated against Merit-based selection is not discriminatory. So yes, in a world where athletic leagues were gender neutral women would lose out, but disparate impact is not a good argument against neutrality.
/r/MensRights08/07/19 07:36 PM
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and for someone labeled as professional that's unacceptable. No it isn't. Wages are not arbitrary, but based on the actual value of labor performed. And performing at a "professional" level in low level, minimally commercially valuable leagues is obviously not that valuable. For example, there is professional lacrosse in the US, but first year players can expect to make around $7000 and experienced players rarely make over $25000. This reflects the fact that nobody gives a fuck about lacrosse. T…
/r/MensRights08/07/19 07:29 PM
1

I knew they weren't being underpaid, but I never bothered to do the math to realize they were being overpaid. I guess since feminists claim to be all about equality we need to start reducing payer play for women until their share of revenue drops down to male levels.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/07/19 07:20 PM
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Meanwhile, these same cunty feminists seem not at all bothered when economics drives a gap in the other direction; how many women complain about the rates of pay for models and adult entertainers massively favoring women? Zero unless it is a radfem using it as a basis to demonize male sexuality.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 11:38 AM
2

Okay, but if you live in China or India, you needn't work a local job. There are tons of tech companies who operate virtually and have employees everywhere. For example, Automattic (best known as the makers of wordpress) has 100% remote employees spread across over 60 countries, and they are not at all unique in that regard. Mind you, I'm not making statements about the realities of China and India, both because my knowledge of such things is modest, and because I don't believe they are relevant…
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 11:03 AM
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Most women find uncircumcised dick 2 be kind of gross.. So it doesnt make her a bad person lol.. She's in the majority. I should think this obvious, but: 1) appeal to the majority fallacy; the popularity of a position does not signify its validity, and 2) she's in the majority in the US and a small handful of other places. In most of the developed world, circumcision is rare, and accordingly a preference for mutilated penises is also rare. Also the tip is where im most sensitive.. If i had fores…
/r/MensRights07/07/19 09:20 PM
1

Well it takes care of the fungal problems that can come from foreskin. Also uncircumcised wieners can stink It's called basic hygiene. Seriously, washing your dick isn't hard. There is no reason to have smegma. I can say for sure my girlfriend wouldn't wanna touch my weiner if it was uncircumcised as well. That doesn't exactly speak highly of her. whats the disadvantage of being circumcised? Setting aside the whole lack of consent and the risk of medical error (both of which are serious concerns…
/r/MensRights07/07/19 08:27 PM
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i wouldnt want 2 not be circumcised Then as an adult, you should be free to have one. The problem is that we weren't given that choice, and it is one many of us wouldn't have made, because there are zero compelling reasons aside from religious belief, to have one, except if necessary to address phimosis, which most men don't have as adults.
/r/MensRights07/07/19 08:04 PM
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Yes, because is most states circumcision is covered by medicaid even if not medically indicated. So if the hospital does it, they get to bill for it.
/r/MensRights07/07/19 08:00 PM
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Uncut looks weird. In your opinion, and no doubt because you've been culturally conditioned in that direction. Regardless, "it looks weird" is not a good excuse to mutilate the genitals of infants. You'll be better off having it legally banned And that's what we advocate. Right now there are nearly zero restrictions on MGM in the US (or most countries, though few developed nations have remotely comparable rates). It is legal for a person with zero medical training, in a non-sterile environment, …
/r/MensRights07/07/19 07:58 PM
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Domestic violence against men in general is more common than people think. DV is portrayed as something that happens to women, but the facts say otherwise. The CDC concluded that a majority of DV is committed by women. But of course when you have shit like VAWA propelling the Duluth Model, and a society that still insists women are fragile victims and men are evil aggressors, the facts play second fiddle to feminist propaganda.
/r/MensRights07/07/19 07:54 PM
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I will be wgtow I believe the term you're looking for is "bitter spinster." WGTOW is about as real as femcels, which is to say not at all.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/07/19 07:46 PM
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But of course having even these minimal and very reasonable standards proves that you're a misogynist pig in the eyes of most women. 4 of those 5 things are entirely within their control, and are things that for most of history would raise zero eyebrows.
/r/MGTOW07/07/19 07:41 PM
1

He has the agency to not ask in the first place! But the point is that there's nothing wrong with asking. Way to live up to your username.
/r/MGTOW07/07/19 07:35 PM
4

What's the point? Twitter would ban it within a day.
/r/MensRights07/07/19 07:25 PM
5

This is something that never dawned on me until I heard Karen Straughan (u/girlwriteswhat) bring it up on HBR. There's no such thing as driving while black, but there is definitely such a thing as driving while black and male. BLM was built supposedly out of concern for police brutality against the black community, which almost exclusively is directed at males, though the movement itself is deeply feminist and cares little for men beyond symbolic rallying value. And the truth holds across cultur…
/r/MensRights07/07/19 07:20 PM
2

Learn Coding ??? That also requires a degree, It absolutely does not. Lots of tech companies will hire you without any degrees or certs if you can prove your competence. And there are tons of free resources these days to teach you how to code.
/r/MGTOW07/07/19 05:35 PM
2

This is mostly horrible advice. Learn MMA or Muay Thai and strengthen yourself as a fighter. If he wants to sure, but it is by no means necessary, and it does invite CTE risks that ought not be minimized. Men learn through PAIN. I was a brawler myself in my college days. That's not at all laudatory. Fighting invites needless physical and legal risk. It should be something that is a genuine last resort, which means nobody ought to relish being a "brawler." Get a degree Probably terrible advice un…
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 08:37 PM
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I used to think it would dissuade us from procreation. Well, it does. Or at least it is intended to. Is that bad for society? Yes. But society is bad for men, so why sublimate oneself to it? And that's really the point.
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 08:21 PM
1

I think you're thinking in marriage terms, in which case the number definitely doesn't matter, because there is no number that makes marriage sensible. He's thinking in terms of fucking or possibly light dating, in which case there is very minimal reason to care either, because it isn't anything serious.
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 04:22 PM
2

r/thirstharderforpussy
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 04:16 PM
7

Maybe stop fucking around with losers? That ship has sailed though. What kind of man is in the market for a 36 year old woman with three kids? Nobody good.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/19 03:59 PM
2

I'd say that the prevailing sentiment of the sub is a tradcon version of PUA, though obviously it is large enough that you find plenty of people otherwise inclined more towards MGTOW or who are garden variety PUAs without the tradcon inclination.
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 03:52 PM
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That was the number who admitted to it; it goes without saying saying that some unknown and probably substantial share of those who didn't admit to the practice no doubt have still engaged in it.
/r/PussyPass06/07/19 03:14 PM
2

FYI, the guy is in India, so 15k INR is about $220 USD.
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 12:18 AM
2

So the men who have children should shirk their responsibilities and go their own way? Depends what you mean. The ones who had no say in fatherhood and are now faced with 18+ years of burden? Absolutely. The ones who discover they were cuckolded and aren't the actual fathers? Absolutely. The ones who've already spent years raising their own biological children? Probably not. But then, that misses the point. MGTOW is about avoiding the mistakes of marriage and paternity, or you've already made th…
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 12:16 AM
1

tradcucks There are definitely a few of those. This sub is large enough that you'll find every variety of moron, from tradcon to alt-righter to bluepilled troll. But they are all minority voices here.
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 12:12 AM
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Source: I am an Indian guy who went through all this shit. Yes I will likely get married. I am an only child, and I couldn't forgive myself if I actually GMOW. Im here to know how to make it as painless as possible. If, despite being red pilled on marriage/women and knowing about the bullshit social programming your culture relies on to control you, you still choose to invite that misery into your life, you deserve zero sympathy. You live only one life, and it ought to be for your own edificatio…
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 11:50 PM
1

Just one who's kind and treats me decently, and me her. If you're going to make this mistake, at least protect your downside. Make sure you have a vasectomy (thus avoiding an "oopsie" or any spermjacking), never marry, never comingle finances, and never cohabitate. You're still creating plenty of opportunity to get fucked over, but you'll avoid the worst of it that way.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 07:35 PM
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but I know some people with dads who left because they’re jerks and didn’t want to be dads Are we talking at birth? Because if so, that is entirely defensible, since men have no say in paternity under our laws. Now, if one day he randomly walks out when the kid is 8, that's shitty. But if he stuck around that long before leaving, I think it is reasonable to assume that what drove him away is the mother.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 07:11 PM
2

Blaming simps is like blaming poor people for working shitty jobs to not starve to death (and thus pushing wages and such down). I realize this is an analogy, but it is a poor one simply because there is such a material difference between wanting not to starve to death and wanting to beat off to some used socks. The former is a matter of self-preservation, the latter is not. Which is why men here focus so much on simps and incels while trying to excuse women. You must be reading a different sub …
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 07:04 PM
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She has more money for less work, and the state will make sure it remains that way, so it seems like a pretty bright albeit wildly unethical choice (to be expected of a woman like this).
/r/PussyPass05/07/19 06:57 PM
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You didn't see her on the cover of last month's issue of Meth Head Monthly?
/r/MensRights04/07/19 07:14 AM
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What about the automatic restraining order that is applied in some states if a woman files for divorce? I'm not sure whether they show up in background checks, but I will note that what you're speaking of - ATROs - are not the same as traditional restraining orders. They do not require keeping physical distance or leaving the common home, because there is no presumption of violence. They are, in essence, instructions from the court to prevent hiding/taking financial assets to ensure an "equitabl…
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 06:22 AM
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It wouldn't matter; just look at the venom they direct towards women who, even if they identify as feminists in some form, break with feminist orthodoxy (e.g. Christina Hoff Sommers, Katie Roiphe, Camille Paglia).
/r/MensRights04/07/19 03:20 AM
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And also the current political climate, metoo movement etc. That'd be what shifted me from "no marriage/kids/cohabitation/shared assets" to "no voluntary social interaction with women."
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 03:07 AM
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I guess you missed the memo...if you're anything other than a heterosexual, white, Christian male, you must be on the left. If you are not on the left, then you automatically become a heterosexual, white, Christian male. Thomas Sowell doesn't count as black, Ben Shapiro doesn't count as Jewish, and Christina Hoff Sommers doesn't count as a woman.
/r/MensRights04/07/19 02:06 AM
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They should be embarrassed Why exactly? I mean, all else being equal, if you could live and travel in luxury and fuck all the hot women you wanted with zero consequence, are you really telling me you wouldn't? They are quite rationally enjoying that which is available to them and which most people, if they were being honest, would also want for themselves but aren't fortunate enough to enjoy. The issue is that society as a whole rewards them simply for being attractive and female, neither of whi…
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 01:29 AM
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Obviously the specific example you mention is new, but the concept isn't. As long as there have been thirsty betas and a vehicle to transact, women have been charging exorbitant prices for shit that in a properly functioning society would have zero worth (e.g. old socks).
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 01:26 AM
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Virginity is literally worthless. The fact that some other guy hasn't busted a nut in her doesn't make a woman more or less worthy of marrying, because marriage itself is never a worthwhile enterprise for a man given the legal traps surrounding it. Indeed, you could look to the one meaningful exception, where divorce is illegal and "annulment" (so basically, divorce under a different name) is exceptionally rare and requires a court to certify serious abuse or something similar - the Philippines …
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 01:22 AM
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Even then, while the strongest arguments against marriage are removed, I'd suggest you take a look at domestic violence law. Not that I should have to add this disclaimer, but for the leftist trolls I will - domestic violence is 100% wrong, regardless of the sex/gender of the parties involved. Domestic violence laws in the US and in much of the world rely on the Duluth Model, which itself is predicated on unscientific and sexist notions about who does the abusing. The end result is that if there…
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 01:13 AM
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How'd you think I knew you were for the sexual abuse of men women ane children as long as its by your masters? So I don't know whether to attribute this libel to mental ineptitude or malice or both, but obviously I never said nor implied that, and any person with even an elementary grasp of English can see that from my prior comments, you twisted fuck. How would I guess your leaders have you against the progressivism? The leaders I don't have? And yes, I'm "against progressivism," but that is th…
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 07:44 PM
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Isn't the MGTOW philosophy all about min/maxing that pleasure, though? That means often not succumbing to blind hedonism since a smart man knows the value in delayed gratification. I don't think there's an inherently correct answer to this question. If there are goals you have that are served by delayed gratification, then by all means limit your short term hedonism. But many people, for good reason, they lack those goals.
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 07:22 PM
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Can you explain to me your rationale for doing so? I ask, because I've only ever understood there to be two lines of reasoning, neither of which would logically apply to MGTOW: 1 - For tradcons, the belief that it is immoral if not sinful, and that appropriate sexual behavior involves premarital abstinence and making life choices that would encourage marriage, like obtaining from onanism. 2 - For PUA types, so that they have motivation to go out and close on one night stands. It's hard for me to…
/r/MGTOW02/07/19 09:14 PM
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MGTOW you have an obligation to reproduce I have no responsibility to anybody other than myself, and I'd be poorly served wasting my life and money raising a kid, even setting aside the myriad of women-related problems that necessarily involves.
/r/MGTOW02/07/19 08:47 PM
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This is a fantastic summary and also nicely contrasts the difference in efficacy. Why go black pill anyway? So part of it comes down to definitions, but let us work with the one the post you like provided. If you've rejected the stock lifescript and don't want children or a woman in your life, and you don't want to live your life in service to a society that gives zero fucks about you or working to the bone for an employer who similarly doesn't care about you, what better alternative is there to…
/r/MGTOW02/07/19 08:28 PM
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I'm not wearin a bra Gee, if only there were places where you could see even better looking women wearing even less. Maybe a place that was only a few keystrokes away...
/r/MGTOW02/07/19 08:19 PM
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Even accepting as true the claim that women "in general" don't behave like this towards men, it is unquestionable that some women do this and worse.
/r/MensRights02/07/19 08:06 PM
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I had a female police officer give me free lessons after the 4th false domestic abuse allegation my ex made against me. Why the hell did you stick around long enough for there be a 4th false allegation?
/r/MGTOW02/07/19 01:42 PM
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