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-10

yall, proving her guilty doesn't prove him innocent. Its very likely they both abused each other.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/06/22 12:56 AM
-4

Your argument is bad and you should feel bad You don't even address the arguments presented. You just double down on "she is greedy"
/r/PussyPassDenied18/02/22 02:19 PM
-14

Bruh, the concept of dating down is sexist. Women do work that many people don't apply a proper monetary value to. Take a house wife for example. A stay at home mom. She makes nothing, by your estimation. ​ Quit being so stupid and sexist.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/12/21 08:03 PM
2

It's pretty normal to ask someone you used to know if they are married or not.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/10/21 11:14 PM
-20

Female dating strategy is a good sub, though. Its good advice for men, too.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/21 06:37 PM
7

Purchased upvotes.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/07/21 01:26 PM
-1

Stop being a creep and harassing women. Crying about it and blaming them is what stupid people do. Take ownership of your bullshit and do better next time. Fucking Christ, what's wrong with you?
/r/PussyPassDenied06/07/21 03:38 PM
-4

Found the ugly dude, lol. Sorry bro
/r/PussyPassDenied06/07/21 03:36 PM
191

Lol, yeah. I am teaching my kids early that romance movies are less true to real life than zombie wizard dragon movies with fairies and shit.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/07/21 03:31 PM
-12

This is some pro incel bait Look at them all lose their minds, lol.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/07/21 03:28 PM
2

Get a girlfriend and birth control. Only ejaculating in a mouth is the worst.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/06/21 01:31 PM
-1

Of course the little dick gun guy is also an incel.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/05/21 01:57 AM
1

You start at the top because gravity pulls water down.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/21 01:54 PM
1

It's soap. Who cares Besides, dumb fuck, the next time you start it's going from balls to face anyway. Face, balls, face, balls
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/21 01:53 PM
2

He is lying He can import cheap hoodies that last
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/21 01:50 PM
-1

Most people believing something doesn't prove it right, dumbass
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/21 01:47 PM
1

You understood just fine. Get the fuck outta here with your racist bullshit.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/21 01:47 PM
2

Yeah, the danger with men is real. Just like wearing a seatbelt. ​ I don't always wreck my car when I drive. But every time I drive I sure am careful to wear my seat belt, and drive safely!
/r/PussyPassDenied30/04/21 03:53 AM
-6

Quit playing pretend just to feel oppressed. She still has to prove rape. A woman's allegations alone aren't enough proof.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/04/21 03:51 AM
1

But what if they are a "pussy ass's little bitch"? Lol
/r/PussyPassDenied28/04/21 02:16 PM
1

The trans thing has nothing to do with the post It's about the comment and the subscription fee.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/04/21 02:15 PM
-7

They parse your post history for sub posts and words that flag you as an incel. It's automated and easy to do. Fuck all you incels. And, btw, you are fucking stupid for not realizing this. It even says so in the post: for participating in a red pill incel sub Fucking dumb fuck.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/04/21 04:09 PM
2

Porn is art, plebian
/r/PussyPassDenied09/01/21 11:26 PM
-18

But...a big bbq party for your friends and tell them to bring their friends... $200 easy for food and a few people you don't really know... Don't be so miserly
/r/PussyPassDenied09/01/21 11:23 PM
2

For what? The fact you don't like it?
/r/PussyPassDenied22/12/20 02:43 PM
-6

As a married man I have a different perspective from the dude in the video. Yes you can take it to mean what he says it means: she is a prostitute. But...from a different perspective her argument is good: don't waste time fucking losers. A relationship is a partnership. If she is spending time in her day trying to better herself and her life and taking time out of that day to fuck some dude then she is wasting her time: poor pussy management. If she spends her time fucking a man who is a good pa…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/12/20 02:31 PM
-1

Whatever, dude. She can always find men to pay for sex.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/12/20 02:27 PM
2

That was the question. She was describing what it means.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/12/20 02:27 PM
6

Sure, but she didn't rape them Cosby did. Totally different crimes
/r/PussyPassDenied23/11/20 01:16 PM
0

It's totally not me, guys. It's my friends. They live in the next town over, you haven't met them. Lol That's you
/r/PussyPassDenied03/11/20 01:11 PM
4

Infanticide isn't the same as an assisted miscarriage, aka an abortion Your body aborts for many reasons. People abort for many reasons. Infanticide is a bit different. But it was a very important part of every hand society for the vast majority of human history. Nothing wrong with abortion, bro.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/20 11:53 AM
-6

And I heard <insert recently popular male celebrity> had some ribs removed so he could suck his own cock.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/20 11:50 AM
4

It was 100% the woman's choice to have sex, too. Keep your legs closed if you can't afford birth control, women...
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/20 11:47 AM
-7

Ever notice how antifa isn't real? It's just Russian propaganda Moron
/r/PussyPassDenied23/08/20 08:21 PM
-3

Female dating strategy is good advice for women who are dating Just went through the forum again and everything looks fine
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/20 04:39 PM
2

Survivorship bias is a real bitch, ain't it?
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/20 03:40 PM
3

There is no strawman on this post
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/20 03:38 PM
0

Go away incel, noone wants you here. Getting your panties twisted over having to play nice with women and children is a weak move.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/20 08:04 PM
-15

Found the incel
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/20 08:27 PM
-25

Poor bastard, noone taught you how to use your privilege to your advantage.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/06/20 04:28 PM
9

Yes, it's a fat dude pretending to have a period because of extreme mental illness Hope he gets the help he needs
/r/PussyPassDenied07/06/20 01:44 PM
20

It's not transphobic to call out some bullshit. We would call out the same bullshit if a post menopausal woman or a woman who had a histerectomy, spelling Go spread your hate somewhere else, you meany hateful head
/r/PussyPassDenied07/06/20 01:43 PM
8

Single moms celebrate father's day and trash talk their ex's. It's not healthy
/r/PussyPassDenied14/05/20 01:05 PM
9

Being a dad is fucking awesome dude
/r/PussyPassDenied14/05/20 01:02 PM
-8

Lol, found an incel
/r/PussyPassDenied14/05/20 01:01 PM
4

Technically women have been fighting for all of human history, too. It's just, traditionally, of more value to society for women not to fight and do other things Send the incels out to fight and die
/r/PussyPassDenied29/04/20 12:31 PM
-1

Slap fighting
/r/PussyPassDenied29/04/20 12:25 PM
-8

Yeah, but it's still gross that he is 22 years older than her
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/20 12:59 PM
-7

Hello usually works for me. And monogamous relationships equal much more sex. Not to mention the super efficient sex to effort ratio. But you do you. Make out with some person. Because, you know, that's something adults enjoy, lol.
/r/seduction23/02/20 02:42 PM
-11

Another incel
/r/PussyPassDenied06/02/20 12:45 PM
-19

Found the incel.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/02/20 12:44 PM
2

I'll be damned. Never heard of this. Thanks for educating me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosage_compensation
/r/PussyPassDenied21/01/20 03:25 PM
-3

Lololol, peanut heads yeah? Do the prenatal test and abort when positive. We won't have any more peanut heads soon!
/r/PussyPassDenied21/01/20 03:20 PM
2

It's a scar from fixing a cleft palette. His head wasn't fully formed at birth. The soft part of the roof of his mouth had a hole there going into his sinuses.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/01/20 12:24 PM
0

Meh, I offer to help men and women of all colors creeds. Works better that way.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/01/20 07:42 PM
25

Not anymore
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/19 11:42 PM
17

Kids. Kids are the exception.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/19 11:41 PM
1

Mods work many hours for free for a billion dollar company. Mods are the lowest of the low as far as people go. Why expect maturity?
/r/PussyPassDenied13/11/19 01:00 AM
1

It takes about 2 minutes for brain death to start. A bit longer for enough brain damage to be lethal. You learn it in school.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/10/19 01:09 PM
1

To be fair they view suicide a little differently than we do.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/10/19 11:56 PM
-1

All you guys are being stupid Stop it Reread the phrase "that go to court" and think about it Cases don't get to court unless there is enough evidence to convict In most cases of rape it's a your word against mine scenario. Impossible to convict. Hence the lower conviction rate.
/r/MensRights28/09/19 02:37 PM
1

Go be an incel somewhere else.
/r/MensRights28/09/19 02:28 PM
4

Or just be an adult: laugh at her then ignore her. Pesters too much tell her to fuck off. But keep doing what you were doing.
/r/MensRights27/09/19 02:31 AM
-4

These people are lying or are creeps.
/r/MensRights27/09/19 02:28 AM
-32

Lol, cuck. Found the incel
/r/PussyPassDenied09/09/19 06:19 PM
-13

Why? I graduated 09 and have been making too much money since then to qualify for any government anything despite being terribly poor at school. No special home loan programs for me when I bought my new house. Or my second house. No nothing Why be jaded when you can just use your privilege to get rich?
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/19 10:41 PM
-5

Wait, hating racists isn't how you solve racism?
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/19 10:34 PM
18

Yeah, one of my first memories is meeting my dad's work partner. Senior systems engineers in late 80s hooking companies networks together. She was a really awesome lesbian woman.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/19 10:34 PM
2

I agree.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/19 10:32 PM
-6

Why you arguing with yourself? Seems like a Trump supporter thing to do, lol,.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/19 10:30 PM
-2

Marriage is awesome. This post is misleading, though Married men with kids tend to be financially secure. So we have everything we want. Including and awesome partner So on father's day you spend the day doing dope ass shit with the kids Drop em with Grandpa for the evening then have special you focused sex with wife that evening So any reasonable married man when asked what they want on Father's day will say sex. It's the finale of a great day. You could describe this the way the title States b…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 04:20 PM
-1

Things change over time, bro.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 04:16 PM
2

I have to agree. Translating point 1 to be less Christian centric may help. Like describing it in terms of matching morality and ethics
/r/MensRights10/08/19 04:10 PM
1

They aren't mutually exclusive Do both.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 04:03 PM
4

The concepts of individuality and sex change when you are married.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 04:03 PM
2

Being tall is the male equivalent of big tits
/r/PussyPassDenied01/08/19 01:53 PM
-5

The comments
/r/PussyPassDenied01/08/19 01:51 PM
1

... words are no excuse for violence. That's how
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/19 02:47 AM
-3

Found the incel, lolz.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/19 02:45 AM
-1

So ignore objective facts that prove you wrong you still double down on it being easier to be a woman?
/r/PussyPassDenied13/07/19 04:43 PM
-6

As a father with a stay at home mom for a wife: I disagree. The father's support helps. But all day every day 5 days a week alone is hard.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 04:34 PM
3

lol, cultural sewer. Other than that your point is pretty good.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/07/19 05:32 PM
1

How do yoy try and fail to kill a 4 mont old?
/r/PussyPassDenied18/06/19 10:31 PM
2

Because we care about and help our neighbors. Whats wrong with you?
/r/MensRights14/06/19 11:16 PM
-4

Thats called dead beat dad in the bible belt. Represents most of human history. And yes, there is a strong correlation between women's rights and a stronger society.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 11:15 PM
1

Yeah, good point and good evidence. The women should make more money than men in years that they generate more gross revenue. And make it based on gross, not net, so it can't be reduced by losses.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/19 04:56 PM
12

Collective punishment is banned by the geneva convention. ​ And second: I was barred from certain jobs in the 90's because I am a man. Still happens today. Try to be a man and get a job as a hostess at a random restaurant. Or be a woman and try to get a job as a dishwasher / busser at a restaurant... Its sexist I tell you.
/r/MensRights17/05/19 04:20 PM
-1

If you research the study you will find that what is presented here isnt totally true. Males are still violent and domimant. They are just less so and are more tolerant of other males I dont see any of this as a bad thing.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 06:48 PM
-1

Still bullshit. All of it. You live in fantasy land. Stop spreading lies.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 05:28 PM
0

don't get married young. ​ Everyone needs some few years to whore around. Its normal.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 05:14 PM
0

You are asking for advice from the wrong people. Part of being in a relationship is helping people deal with their emotions. In this case when she comes home from work she doesn't want you to solve her problems. She wants you to listen and understand. That's it. I know its all dumb bitch bullshit. But as her partner and if you ever want to be a good partner to someone, man or woman, you need to learn how to commiserate with them. Accept their emotions. Listen and understand. ​ This is normal. ​ …
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 05:01 PM
1

This is just normal relationship stuff. Even the dumb bitch gas lighting comment is normal. You see it on reddit all the time. Everyone thinks they know what it is but they don't. It is a terrible thing to have done to you, gas lighting. But, yeah, this is normal. Part of being partners is figuring out how to work through these kinds of problems as a team so that your team can succeed and you can become a better team. Relationships take work.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 04:52 PM
2

Suburban life is pretty good. Its great, actually. Its like living in a world that was custom built for having a wife and kids.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 04:28 PM
1

But...you respond automatically and emotionally when people add women to the discussion. You don't see that you are describing yourself here?
/r/MensRights16/05/19 03:33 PM
1

Or both. Or is inclusive.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 03:31 PM
1

The post title explicitly says most heroes are men. You need to chill out.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 03:30 PM
35

If you dont get enough higs in a day it breaks your brain. You can see the damage on brain scans.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 03:26 PM
27

What? I do this with my son and daughter. All the time. And I am a man. This is insane.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 03:25 PM
2

They tell the women what clothes to wear. I have a problem with islam because of that. And with my pentecostal family for the same reason.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 03:24 PM
0

This isn't gaslighting, plebian.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 02:50 PM
1

Weird, your post started off in the typical insane incel fashion. Then you got all... uhh, not insane? You make a really good point. Your litmus test is how I have handled all my relationships. I am unique, sort of, in that I have an identical twin and we have lived together even as adults. So, yeah, if I wouldn't put up with that bullshit from him I am not going to put up with bullshit from some woman I am dating. ​ Sex is way too easy to get to have to give up my self worth for it.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 02:39 PM
-52

Its perfectly normal to talk about money when dating. And being up front and honest about it is fair, too. Nothing wrong with this, especially once you are over the age of 27ish.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 02:29 PM
2

Traditionally the incel types and/or low quality males are disposable. You use them to raid and pillage your enemies, and die doing it, or protecting the land or doing dangerous work. Just look up the history of infanticide and think about a world where women are property and you will understand why things are this way.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 02:19 PM
1

Self proclaimed incel. Just shut the fuck up and get out. Let the real men who have wives and children deal with this.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 02:00 PM
2

Then he will never see his kids.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 01:58 PM
2

You a bro.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 01:58 PM
2

A man who grew up without a dad who wants to show support to his mom
/r/MensRights15/04/19 12:46 PM
-20

Found the incel!
/r/MensRights15/04/19 12:45 PM
-11

Incels use those words and tend to be alt right.
/r/MensRights15/04/19 12:42 PM
12

Single moms who dont want their kids to feel bad on fathers day.
/r/MensRights15/04/19 12:39 PM
-2

This is an opinion piece written by an activist trying to get paid to solve this problem. Makes good points, though.
/r/MensRights09/04/19 01:21 PM
-4

So what? I did reports on black people for black history month. Nothing wrong with understanding a different perspective on life
/r/MensRights15/03/19 01:38 PM
1

Yes, but its hard to quantify what it would be.
/r/MensRights07/03/19 03:25 PM
1

Awe, how cute. You are very innocently not racist. I struggle with racism, though, so I tend to notice race first, then fat/ugly. I am working on it.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:30 PM
1

From the 80s, yeah, but its changed. And if you just look at full height people 35 and under the average is even higher.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:28 PM
1

Its the same as big tits. Dudes find fugly bitches with big tits attractive. Women find fugly tall dudes attractive. Literally 1 to 1. And it isnt new.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:27 PM
1

There are. Human growth hormone at the proper age. You can also get a few inches added to your shins for like 50k
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:26 PM
1

Yeah, but there exist more chubby chasers than thyroid problems. So feel free to discriminate against fat women.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:25 PM
1

Its not superficial. In a world of food scarcity, most of human existence even today, poor nutrition stunts growth. So does infant illness. Stunted growth due to this alsi lowers IQ. Therefore: we evolved an attraction to tall people because it is an indicator of health and access to food. Why all the little people from central america and india are kinda dumb and real short: stunted growth. It literally isnt superficial.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:24 PM
-1

You cant possibly believe that. If you do then seek help. Make some friends. Go outside.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:21 PM
1

India is part of asia. Therefore: you are wrong.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:20 PM
1

Lol, what? Just go full dick from the get go. Dont let people treat you like that. And dont let their feelings slow you down. Stand up for yourself. When she cries just keep going at her to make it worse. Do as much damage as possible. Next time the equation will have changed: being a dumb cunt is too painful. But you dont. You get pushed around then manipulated by your emotions.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 03:45 PM
1

Yeah but I am 5'8 and never had problems with the ladies. I still get hit on randomly when walking around. Its nice.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 03:42 PM
-5

You should remove the second 2 descriptors from your user name. This comment is not smart or geeky. It is, in fact, not true. 5'9 is below average. Below average is, by definition, short.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 03:38 PM
0

What? We have tools that eliminate the strenght gap. We call them weapons. Duhhh.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/01/19 09:43 PM
4

She is fat, like a whale. Who cares
/r/PussyPassDenied07/01/19 09:41 PM
3

No, you can see her elbow as she runs off.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/01/19 09:40 PM
-8

It doesnt get heavier the higher you kift it moron. Getting it off the ground counts, inch or not. Also you lifting you end higher shifts more weight to her end reducing the weight you ars holding. A few inches, pfft. You mean laugh when she can lift it but not move it.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/01/19 09:39 PM
1

Lol, kist beat her ass. Then jump the boyfriend and beat his ass. Then do the same to the brother. You got bros, 3 guys can wreck anyone. Dont take shit
/r/PussyPassDenied07/01/19 09:33 PM
1

It would if she sat on him and smothered him to death with those tiddies....lol
/r/PussyPassDenied07/01/19 09:31 PM
2

It could be both, you know. Using aggression to enact social change. Any push for change will be agressive. Doesnt make it bad or wrong.
/r/MensRights04/12/18 03:56 PM
8

I guarantee in the situation at hand this girl hasnt had surgery or hormones and literally just declared it. Dont change the circumstances of the argument tonfit your narrative.
/r/MensRights15/11/18 03:04 PM
-4

Its not a boy. Ots a stupid wanna be girl. Just like all the cutters of yester year.
/r/MensRights15/11/18 03:02 PM
28

Not true. On average women, when healthy, are like 20 to 25% fat. Even athletes are 15 to 20%. Men are 12 to 15% and when athletes 4 to 8%. Testosterone is real. That means pund for pound at every weight class the man is stronger Men also have shorter legs relative to height compared to women. Men have more upper body strength than women. Women can overcome this with testosterone and hard work. But that is rare. You are just delusional. More testosterone makes men more aggressive, too, sonwhen v…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/18 01:47 PM
17

Pfft weak. My dad taught me the secret when I was young. May as well share. Never had issues with women. Women want what you have got more than you want what they have got. Stated another say: Women want you more than you want them. Its true.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/18 12:09 PM
1

Complex translation of common logical fallacies
/r/TheRedPill22/08/18 09:35 PM
0

For a semen hater you sure do argue in a fair way.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 12:52 PM
2

We let black men vote before we let women vote. Think about that.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 12:49 PM
-4

Lol, you hate spunk. Thats... kind of gay assuming you are a woman. Lol Just stick to condoms. Let the dude deal with the spunk. Lol
/r/MensRights22/08/18 12:47 PM
26

But both exist.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 12:45 PM
2

Thanks, figured there was more to it.
/r/MensRights17/07/18 09:35 PM
1

He was drunk. She raped him.
/r/MensRights10/07/18 01:09 PM
5

Bail is a function of flight risk, not severity of charges alone.
/r/MensRights10/07/18 01:04 PM
-3

Yeah? My dad does same kind of shit. I still wont see him. Play the victim card more, dad, I am ok being the villain in your world.
/r/MensRights05/07/18 01:57 PM
5

What? Affirmative action has been proven to not work. It actually harms the peoplenits supposed to help.
/r/MensRights05/06/18 12:50 PM
1

Agreed
/r/MensRights30/05/18 12:23 PM
1

Ok, yeah. We were all teenagers once and some didn't have the opportunity to learn all the lessons during that time.
/r/seduction22/02/17 05:44 PM
1

Yeah, dude, for sure. That messes up everything. My cousin, a woman, has thyroid issues and it messed up her libido bad until she got it fixed.
/r/seduction22/02/17 04:17 AM
-1

Hmm, maybe I did misunderstand it. It still seems like a "how to guide on hygeine" for 13 year old boys. So, yeah, buy some land, not spinning rims. I was really just put off by the whole look thing.
/r/seduction22/02/17 04:08 AM
1

lol, "like a hunter in the wilderness" You left out the most important part: have lots of sex with whatever woman will let you. Other women can smell that shit on you. Nothing makes a women more interested in you than the smell of another woman on your penis.
/r/seduction21/02/17 10:18 PM
1

Vinegar first! I will have to try this.
/r/seduction21/02/17 10:13 PM
1

Dude, get a prostitute and have her teach you how to have sex. Maybe even have a few sessions. Once you get over the whole "I have it now what do I do with it" part things will be easier. Ohh,yeah. Go to a cougar bar, too. Find an older woman. Or an older woman divorcee dating service/site. I think there are some kinky reddit subs you can post on to find an older woman, or couple, to help you out.
/r/seduction21/02/17 10:10 PM
1

Its not normal and probably hormone related. Whether the hormone is testosterone or not.
/r/seduction21/02/17 10:08 PM
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.... buy some land, not spinning rims..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8 Relevant. This is just a reddit post version of the video. To anyone reading this post just remember he is just giving you a lecture on marketing. Product, price, placement, packaging. Not to be too racist but this also sounds like its from a very... minority mindset. As in: I'm hot because im fly... Look doesn't really matter as much as he says. It can give an advantage for picking up women who care about loo…
/r/seduction21/02/17 10:04 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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