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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	How would you explain AF/BB in a way that your daughter wouldn't find offensive. This guy usually hits his stride around 26-32 and will be a huge catch while some of the hot guys in college and high school are on the way down Let me guess-- you're the first guy, the one that isn't that attractive.	/r/askTRP	15/02/16 03:20 AM
0	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. I don't have the time to reply point by point, especially since you are being deliberately obtuse about many points concerning feminism. Some thoughts though: -Men are not begrudgingly giving women anything that they do not receive benefits from themselves. In 2012, 57.7% of women were in the workforce in the US, compared to 70.2% of men. The gap is necessary because women do unpaid domestic and childcare work that is, of course, not taxed. This is work that society NEEDS in order to survive. Yo…	/r/MensRights	19/06/15 02:11 AM
2	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. The move towards treating women equally? I'll believe that when I see feminists exhorting women to take on dangerous jobs to protect their husbands and brothers from harm. Most of these jobs are old-boys clubs that actively make it difficult for women to be hired or work in them. Feminism isn't about exhorting anyone. Female autonomy has everything to do with the Pill and modern technology, neither of which women in general or feminists in particular had anything to do with. In any case men as a…	/r/MensRights	18/06/15 12:30 PM
1	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. I'm guessing, since reddit is American, that most of the posters here are also American-- where most people in political power are still male.	/r/MensRights	18/06/15 11:58 AM
1	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. I haven't heard of this. Where specifically does this happen?	/r/MensRights	18/06/15 11:56 AM
2	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. It is my experience that most feminists are interested in supporting men's rights, even insofar as men also benefit from the move towards treating women equally (which includes being equally malevolent in crime, not necessarily more nurturing than men etc.) or veer towards seeing them as less of a priority rather than censoring them at least, rather than being hostile about them. I think the hostility, when it develops, comes from the well known MRA voices and definitions being hostile towards f…	/r/MensRights	18/06/15 09:31 AM
4	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. maybe because they've had more time for a backlash to develop Opening up a rape center that caters to men isn't a result of backlash. Acknowledging that men are vulnerable to rape is part of the breakdown of harmful gender roles that feminism has always worked towards. Traditionally, men were not raped, since that does not square with ~masculinity and manhood.~ Laws written by men actually only specified women as possible rape victims (in the US the rape definition has been expanded, but isn't p…	/r/MensRights	18/06/15 08:05 AM
5	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. The people with power make things happen. It's no different here. Yes, but the point is that they are the first ones. Why aren't other countries doing this first? If feminism is the antithesis of the MRM, why are feminists the first ones to help out with one of the major MR issues? Could they, perhaps, be benefiting men too by taking on the "patriarchy," like most feminists claim? As much as that word ("patriarchy") is a bad one around here, it is also the cause of a lot of men's woes as seen in…	/r/MensRights	18/06/15 05:52 AM
4	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. Feminism has made MRA-related advocacy illegal in many places Where?	/r/MensRights	18/06/15 04:56 AM
8	Sweden announces first centre for raped men as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes. In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher. Since feminism is usually vilified by MRAs, I'm wondering what is thought about this new development from what is probably the most feminist country? I'm surprised this post hasn't gotten more comments in 6 hours.	/r/MensRights	17/06/15 11:47 PM
1	RP: If you could be a young, attractive female for a week, what would you do? This is hilarious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/15 04:58 AM
0	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? You're being deliberately obtuse. Everyone has the potential to be their best self-- alpha-- but going on TRP is a very "beta" thing to do. Manliness, and success for both genders, is not letting other people tell you how to live your life. By taking TRP you're letting a lot of unsuccessful men tell you how to live your life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/15 02:18 AM
0	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? Pay attention to this mindset, any man reading this. It stems from dislike of anyone not natural born Alphas and shames them for looking for guidance in something they were never taught. Uh, no. If you feel that you REQUIRE the Red Pill for success then you are not and will never be "Alpha." Alpha people go through life thinking critically and making their own decisions based on their own experiences, not asking for other people to lead them or submitting themselves to dogma.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/15 02:00 AM
0	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? to supplicate No, this is exactly what the pseudo-traditional heterosexual relationship TRP endorses does. You'll always be serving women when your "dominance" keeps her from having the confidence and autonomy to provide for herself by undermining her judgement and ultimately diminishing the importance of her life. Your concern is having sex. The rest of the world that finds you morally objectionable is concerned that you're willing to throw half of the population under the bus in order to get s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/15 01:30 AM
0	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? By your own reasoning, I should not be able to understand the experience of a low value man as a woman and know what is best for him, so how can you expect to make value judgements about what is best for women as a man? RPW are far from an example of anything. They could very well be the same posters from TRP with different accounts. On the other hand, suggestions for behavior sponsored by TRP are related to abuse-- which is illegal-- and other manipulative acts against social mores. By all mean…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/15 12:39 AM
0	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? The posts on the front page of TRP are more than about "what is most likely to get a man success in the sexual market," they go into value judgements about character and what it means to be a woman. If it was simply about helping you get laid then people would laugh it off more like they do your cousins, PUAs. Have your self-help-- it is available everywhere else anyways-- but it is the hateful aspect of TRP that disgusts everyone. For example, this top comment on a highly upvoted post today: TL…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/15 12:19 AM
1	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? Are you a woman? If so, you do not have the experiences that men live through, especially mid to low SMV men. And yet TRP presumes to understand all there is to know about women from "observation." The TRP sub here on reddit may not directly ask for money, but it links to many for-profit sites and there's obviously value to you-- and to everyone else who argues here-- in furthering the agenda.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/15 12:02 AM
1	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? This is classic advertising. Read "men are not happy"? You're trying to convince men that they have a problem so you can sell them on a solution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/15 11:53 PM
2	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? Your false answer is not any more valid because I can't prescribe to you a fits-all-sizes answer to confidence in life. Asking for one is in itself unreasonable. If you were as much of an individualist as TRP professes its members to be, then you wouldn't be asking me what to do. You make yourself a vulnerable demographic that is prey to con artists who will get you to pay for seminars, books, or videos showing you "exactly what to do." Wonder why this "information" isn't available anywhere else…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/15 10:53 PM
1	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? This is not true. Men who look to TRP are the same ones who want to be led by hand and don't think for themselves or beyond reddit. There are plenty of other sites that look to help men improve themselves, like artofmanliness.com.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/15 10:45 PM
1	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? I feel pretty secure closing my mind against Red Pill possibilities for me. Thanks for your concern.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/15 08:40 PM
2	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? It is the toxic get-rich version of self-help? Big promises with just a tiny bit of common sense thrown in to make it seem legit?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/15 06:02 AM
4	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? You might have, I don't know... tried having confidence in yourself from the vantage point that half of the population isn't terrible and out to get you? What seems more logical to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/15 03:30 AM
25	BP: If TRP has a bad understanding of women, then why are women noticing me more and more since I've taken the Red Pill? I used to be the Disney type who thought showing big romantic gestures would get me romance So, before you imagined showing up with a boombox under some girl's window and winning her love forever, whereas now you actually talk to women, act confident, and show interest? I'm so shocked that actually doing something works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/15 02:02 AM
2	Is male attractiveness more rare than female? Can you imagine a genderswapped version of this in the Wall Street Journal? "John Doe argues that too many women in their 20s are cold, career-obsessed narcissists." The outrage would be enormous. Ah, isn't this the prevailing stereotype of women who prioritize careers at any age?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/15 06:48 PM
1	Hi i'm that 14 year old that asked for advice on TRP Alright, I will allow that it is excellent advice for the majority of people who are not combative, self-loathing/destructive RPers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/15 11:34 AM
3	Hi i'm that 14 year old that asked for advice on TRP It assumes you have some self respect, yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/15 03:59 PM
-3	Hi i'm that 14 year old that asked for advice on TRP I don't think you can go wrong with the golden rule: treating all people the way you would want to be treated. You inhabit your body, you're always thinking, interacting with the world, making mistakes, learning, other people influence you, you influence other people. Your experience is entirely unique, and the people you meet have mothers, fathers, siblings and friends just like you. They wonder who they'll be when they grow up, how they're going to be successful, who will love them, and what t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/15 09:07 AM
6	Female RPers and Male BPers the side you disagree with seems to be more in your favour so why do you think it's bullshit? This is nonsense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/15 04:26 PM
22	Female RPers and Male BPers the side you disagree with seems to be more in your favour so why do you think it's bullshit? Feminism is not a sexual strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/15 08:27 AM
7	If an OTC diagnostic test could 100% accurately determine how many men a woman has slept with, what effects would this have on society? Your whole hypothetical assumes that women having sex is a bad thing and that women are not honest in relationships so that this kind of test is necessary, and ~a big deal~ It further assumes that having sex with a man permanently alters a woman's physiology as if she is damaged. The people replying who say that the effect would be "not a whole lot" are right because this untethered kind of thinking is really limited to you and other people who have similarly misanthropic notions about relations…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 08:18 AM
12	If an OTC diagnostic test could 100% accurately determine how many men a woman has slept with, what effects would this have on society? Slut shaming and policing are exactly OPs goals with this hypothetical. That's fairly obvious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 08:09 AM
1	Platespinning does not make sense. Yes, "ad-hom! ad-hom!" Is on the OPs original list of terper-familiar fallacies, and I am aware what it means. Thank you for the excellent demonstration.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 10:19 PM
-1	Platespinning does not make sense. Those are used a lot in any place where debate takes place, I guess you're new to discussion and formal and informal logic in general. Actually, these are the only fallacies terpers seem to know, so I doubt that they are any more versed in logic than other reddit posters. They are simply more prone to parrot things that they have heard in the sub. I see them trot them out all the time and then transgress them in the same post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 12:55 AM
1	Should men have to pay for children they didn't want? It is the #6 cause of death of women of childbearing age in the US. Death is an extreme cause, but it can also include lasting pain, incontinence, diabetes, a broken tailbone or, at the very least, cosmetic disfigurement. Men always have the option, and mostly do these days, work in a risk free office environment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/15 01:42 PM
1	Should men have to pay for children they didn't want? I mean, if there were an artificial womb you could transfer it to, sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/15 09:22 PM
3	Should men have to pay for children they didn't want? there should also be laws in place that force the woman to carry the baby to term and pay child support to the man if he wants to keep the baby and she doesn't You realize a potential risk of child birth is death, right? You can't force one person to risk death in order to save another some money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/15 05:14 PM
1	Should men have to pay for children they didn't want? Are you saying you have a problem with men making agreements to commit to parenthood that they cannot get out of later? In this case its tough, if he and she made an agreement to be parents, there should be no way out of it for him. I think that it would cause other problems. For example: what if a kind of naive guy signs one of these things when he gets married at 19. Six years later he and his wife don't get along anymore and they're mostly separated, except when they have sex when he comes ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/15 05:03 PM
1	Should men have to pay for children they didn't want? Women have 100% control over whether or not a family is started. Not if she doesn't have access to abortion or has no money for abortion. There are also still women who may not want children, but find, upon getting pregnant, that they do not feel morally comfortable with abortion. Both options that women have (abortion and adoption) are not only financial, like you suppose for a father, but they also carry health risks for a woman-- like incontinence, diabetes, and death. You're equating a purel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/15 04:35 PM
1	Should men have to pay for children they didn't want? Your argument also works in reverse - if women have the power to trap men, it takes away incentive to use BC etc. I don't think so. You're assuming that all women WANT children, and that is certainly not so. The amount of money given in child support payments in the US is not the gravy train many MRA-types suppose. It also entails a complete derailing of a woman's life, career, and undesirable physical changes. Men may have an extra large bill every month, but a woman with an unwanted child is a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/15 04:06 PM
1	Should men have to pay for children they didn't want? Women may have a choice where abortion is not illegal, but that choice is at a financial and physical cost (adoption even more so). And in some places abortion is illegal or very difficult to obtain. If men could "opt out" of all expenses of their own biological children, they would have no incentive to take preventative measures during sex, putting even more cost on women to buy condoms and birth control. The world isn't a magical caring place where all people having sex are in a respectful rel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/15 03:46 PM
1	Hey how would you guys think about making a pod cast? She won't be on the podcast because she is almost definitely a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/15 06:29 AM