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| 17 | Car game? #-close [FR], 75% of the work done without talking, in separate car from the girl. | greenpixel | /r/seduction | 08/04/11 01:01 AM | |
| 14 | My first FR, quick #-close on barista in a coffee shop. | greenpixel | /r/seduction | 05/04/11 06:09 PM | |
| 5 | Had my first friend flake on me because of how I have changed. This post is on how not everyone might like "the new you", but as long as you do, that's totally fine. | greenpixel | /r/seduction | 24/04/11 05:38 PM |
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| 2 | Feminism and the recent "creepy elevator coffee guy" fiasco.Yes, I agree with all this. The interpretation of it as a potential sexual assault is made by the woman. Men approach women in bars or on the street all the time. Yes, including women on their own, I do it too. That doesn't change the fact that he was stupid to not realise it would come off as creepy, when delivered cold, to an almost perfect stranger, in a lift, at 4 in the morning. And no, as I've said in my posts, that in no way justifies this being blown out of proportion as a potential rape… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/11 07:46 PM |
| 4 | Feminism and the recent "creepy elevator coffee guy" fiasco.Yeah, he could have, and in my other comments i've said that yeah, saying what he said in a lift was certainly misjudged. Doesn't mean that this is escalated to a potential rape though, which is the real issue. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/11 06:36 PM |
| 9 | Feminism and the recent "creepy elevator coffee guy" fiasco.Not quite. "Cornering" implies intent to corner. There is no reason to suspect he intended to be with her alone in a lift. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/11 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Feminism and the recent "creepy elevator coffee guy" fiasco.Yes, of course, but I'm sure most people would agree that "want to come to my room for some coffee" in an elevator in an unfamiliar place at 4 in the morning is something of a faux pas. I am not suggesting for a second though, that faux pas = potential rape. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/11 05:29 PM |
| 6 | Crosspost from TIL: Testosterone Increases by 45.7% in Men When They Don't Masturbate for 7 DaysJust pointing out, the article says ejaculation, not masturbation. This goes from ejaculation via sex too. So really, it means nothing either way with regards to seduction. | /r/seduction | 21/06/11 06:05 PM |
| 1 | When to make moves?The thing that turns "making a move" into successful escalation is social and personal intuition. Even if a girl is attracted to you, and you to her, you aren't going to get anywhere by going from ordinary conversation to trying to kiss her. You have to instate early on that physical contact is going to be a usual part of your interactions with a girl (done with arm/shoulder/hand touching), then you naturally escalate these to longer more noticeable touches. The tension will build and the progre… | /r/seduction | 29/05/11 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Recently out being a BI female. Any suggestions on how to met girls?Read the sidebar! This subreddit is for pickup advice for lesbians (I know, you're bi, but for a girl meeting other girls, I guess it still applies). Also, your question is waaay too general for anyone to answer. Lurk for a while, get out there and try stuff, then come back with more specific issues you're having. Good luck! | /r/seduction | 29/05/11 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Grooming body hair (chest, back)I'm pretty hairy, not quite as fuzzy as you. I get rid of hair on my shoulders (i wax it, shaving makes it come back worse), and any that comes up on my back, but i leave the torso. I havent met a girl who was (significantly) put off by a hairy chest. Shoulders and back though, never good hairy. | /r/seduction | 29/05/11 06:38 PM |
| 2 | More Field Reports and less questions on sedditI'd prefer less questions, about the same amount of FRs, but way more discussion of theory. A positive knock-on of questions is that they often lead to good discussions. Maybe it would be better to keep specific questions about a certain girl in askseddit, but questions like "How do you start a conversation with a cashier in a grocery store?" I'm quite happy to see around here. Lots of eyes means lots of viewpoints and lots of hands on keyboards. | /r/seduction | 21/05/11 10:21 AM |
| 3 | You're in a set. An AMOG comes in and busts your balls and everyone laughs. How do you respond?If it's a witty line and he's busting my balls with some flair, I'd either laugh with the group, or if I can keep up with him (keeping the tone non confrontational, just a bit of light hearted banter), I might throw a few lines back, but make sure not to give him more than like 15% of my attention. After all, I have a goal in mind. If it's straight up aggressive or confrontational I usually act like I haven't noticed his aggression and that I haven't heard him. When he repeats I'll do the kind o… | /r/seduction | 16/05/11 11:42 AM |
| 2 | [FR] thanks seddit!Oh ok, well go ahead, sleep with her, then when it comes to defining the relationship with her, I'd use a little routine out of Magic Bullets. I won't give you a word-for-word script. Fill in the details yourself. If at any time you are forced into telling her where you think it's going, talk about how relationships with people have different levels (holding a hand at about elbow level) so at this level, is a one night stand. (holding a hand at eye level) and up here, that's a long term relation… | /r/seduction | 15/05/11 01:10 PM |
| 2 | How do I set up that first kiss?If you've been hangin gout with a girl for a while, and not physically escalating, even if you're getting along well, you won't be able to go straight in for the kiss. There's no tension in just a conversation. Even if she's sitting there talking to you, thinking about how she fancies you, you're not going to get far by jumping from a normal conversation to going in for the kiss. Escalation is essential, and takes time, but it should start small and steadily get more noticeable, it should feel c… | /r/seduction | 15/05/11 01:00 PM |
| 1 | [FR] thanks seddit!I'll agree and expand on this: OP, even if you do want to get "tied down" (i.e. get into a relationship with this girl), don't let it become your #1 priority until it's fairly concrete. Getting too deep too quickly is a DLV, it displays that you're not mature in a relationship. Getting too deep too quickly can very easily drive the girl away, it comes off as needy. So, if you want a relationship with her, still keep your own life and continue meeting new people of both sexes. You don't know wher… | /r/seduction | 15/05/11 12:48 PM |
| 3 | [Fail Report] why didn't I F-close?Also, sounds like you completely missed out comfort building, going straight from dancing to asking her home with you. Which, as frogma said, led to her cooling off on the subway (get a cab!). If you built more comfort, then on the way home (IN A CAB!) you could have spoken a bit and verbally flirted instead of making out the whole time. Making out all the way home poses no challenge to her. Be a challenge! The idea is to reverse roles so she's chasing you, rather than being chased, which as a h… | /r/seduction | 06/05/11 09:52 AM |
| 7 | [First FR] Worst luck ever and some bad AA on my part and kind've a funny story (might be a bit long)The fuck? Most effective cockblock ever. Looks like you ran into a HB and her AFC friend who fancies her but is firmly friendzoned. Unlucky, fella! | /r/seduction | 02/05/11 11:09 AM |
| 3 | [FR] Kino, it works.Backing up what others have said: Not kissing her doesn't mean you fucked up, completely alpha in all the right ways. It gives the impression , whether it's true or not, that you get loads of tail and don't need to chase it at any opportunity. Play it right and you'll definitely bed her. Can't wait for the follow up FR! | /r/seduction | 02/05/11 11:03 AM |
| 1 | I am a genuinely nice guy. How do you deal with female friend that wants something more, but not be a dick and not get fucked over yourself?This is my experience of it, obviously it'll be different for you, but hopefully I can help some. I've got a female friend - that I really do care about a lot - who's genuinely the most "chill" girl I've ever met, unfortunately she's also the hottest girl I've ever been friends with. She's got a boyfriend of a year and a half, but there had been increasingly heavy chemistry between us. Ended up sleeping with her (whoops), which she felt pretty bad about and it never happened again. I made sure t… | /r/seduction | 26/04/11 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Had my first friend flake on me because of how I have changed. This post is on how not everyone might like "the new you", but as long as you do, that's totally fine.Oh i really wasn't trying to be alpha, I was just giving a good friend an honest response. Thanks for the feedback though, hopefully I can turn it into something more positive still! | /r/seduction | 25/04/11 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Had my first friend flake on me because of how I have changed. This post is on how not everyone might like "the new you", but as long as you do, that's totally fine.Very interesting, but mostly referring to outdated pua stuff. As I read tofu saying the other day, pickup is no longer about "tricking" women into wanting to sleep with you, it's about being a man that is attractive to women. | /r/seduction | 24/04/11 06:05 PM |
| 2 | I was at a club, and had 2 girls checking me out. What would you have done?The textbook way to close one girl in a 2-set is to choose which one you want to close (call her girl 1), then pay 85% of your attention to girl 2, keep having fun, staying alpha and all that, and girl 1 will be working for your attention. This also provides safeguarding against girl 2 blowing you out of the group, cause she's decided you're ok. Then you can choose the moment to turn to 1 while she's trying for your attention and escalate fast. | /r/seduction | 24/04/11 12:49 PM |
| 3 | How do I approach this?In general you seem really unsure of yourself, and worried at what she or others will think. It's important to get over this! By and large, strangers dont give a fuck, they won't notice any of the tings you obsess over doing wrong enough to judge you. Yeah the flower and all that goes against all the PUA stuff, but as long as you make it work for you then that's grand! I would say, look out for being a "nice guy". This takes some clarification, I don't mean be an arsehole. The romantic wooing ra… | /r/seduction | 15/04/11 11:22 PM |
| 0 | Girls are always late"How is the steak tonight?" | /r/seduction | 15/04/11 11:19 AM |
| 1 | The Difference Between The F-Closers and the AFC?Reading the material and getting an interest is a start, a very small start. Being booksmart on it brings you about 3% of the way there, the other 97% is practice. The biggest obstacle to most people is AA, but fortunately it's easy to get over just by ignoring it at the start, then it'll go away with time. Get out there man! | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Had a good line used on me last night, thought I should share.Heh, maybe a threadswap could be arranged with twoXchromosomes: IAMA pretty cute female, AMA | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 10:30 PM |
| 19 | [FR] A girl at work gave IOIs... I capitalized like a boss (+ deep details & lessons!)Take bitches swimming and lying in the sun, bitches love swimming and lying in the sun. This improved an already great FR tenfold. | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Can we get a day game thread going?Not quite the same, but in a coffee shop, to break out of the "typical customer/cashier role", when she asked me what drink I wanted, instead of just telling her, I acted like I wasn't sure and asked her what she would get and pushed her for an answer. Anything to start a conversation! Maybe if it's a supermarket cashier, you might comment on something you're buying... I don't know, it's tricky, especially with others in the queue, but if you talk to her while she's scanning your items then it i… | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 07:23 PM |
| 1 | To Facebook, or not to Facebook: that is the questionI've got a facebook (obviously, who doesn't? ;) ) but I try to avoid getting girls I've picked up as friends on facebook, because it feels like they know too much about me. I think it's probably just a quirk I have and isn't really founded in much, but I stand by it. | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Club fun and Pizza place k-closei intentionally slowed my pace down in order to see if she was interested Genius! I've never heard or thought of that. Nice job op! | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 07:13 PM |
| 2 | simple prom advise from happy alpha UFC fighterAnyone else think this was going to be a joke, and the advice would be terrible, then were pleasantly surprised? | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Follow-up on FR from a few days ago, need adviceDammit, my apologies! | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 01:07 PM |
| 1 | I always have the perfect thing to say... a moment after it would have been useful. Any way to fix this?Some people in this community say that you shouldn't care what women think of you I think this is inaccurate, you should, of course, care what women think of you, everything you do in pickup is to shape what she thinks of you so that she becomes attracted to you. However, you shouldn't let them know that you care what you think of them because It's an IOI, and you dont want to send out IOIs until after she is It shows that you're playing into her hands, which is beta and puts her in the driving … | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 12:54 PM |
| 1 | I always have the perfect thing to say... a moment after it would have been useful. Any way to fix this?Well, if your brilliant responses are coming in only the tiniest bit too late, you could just always talk at a slower pace, and consider your answers before you open your mouth. People often get into the habit of word vomiting and speaking quickly because they think that if they stop talking, people will get bored and blow them out. It's not true! A slower, more considered speech (don't go too far, we don't want you sounding like Clement Freud on Just a Minute [go to about 12 seconds in]) shows … | /r/seduction | 13/04/11 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Oxford's Dictionary Mac App: Definition of "rape": "The crime, committed by a man, of forcing another person to have sexual intercourse with him [...]"Personally, i've never heard "he" used as a unisex term. Informally, "they" can be used as unisex even for singular people. But it's something of a moot point; in something which requires absolute clarity of meaning e.g. legislation "he or she" "him or her" "his or hers" etc are used (at least in UK articles of law) | /r/MensRights | 11/04/11 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Oxford's Dictionary Mac App: Definition of "rape": "The crime, committed by a man, of forcing another person to have sexual intercourse with him [...]"I was going to mention how uk law efines rape as unwanted penetration with a penis, but it has already been said. What is the exact wording of the US law? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/11 07:12 PM |
| 1 | [FR] First one night stand!Are you actually in an open relationship, or does your girlfriend think you're faithful? | /r/seduction | 11/04/11 06:09 PM |
| 2 | First FR: number close + phone gametext her next day with something to do, but not a classic dinner date or anything like that, they suck and are pretty hard work. Also, make sure you tell her to join you, don't ask her. If you can cook try a line I read the other day: "I've got this new dish [insert name of dish] i want to cook, you should join me" or if you're going out to clubs or a party tell her she should come along too, or if you do something like ride a motorbike tell her to go for a ride with you, anything really. Keep i… | /r/seduction | 11/04/11 05:59 PM |
| 1 | First FR: number close + phone gameMan, she was inviting you back to her place! Get on it! | /r/seduction | 11/04/11 05:02 PM |
| 2 | [FR] This should have been a slam dunk, instead my night is miserable and I get almost no sleepshe either doesn't want anything to happen, or not in the middle of the party, so I don't push it too hard I'd say this is where it started to go downhill a bit, you let her break your frame. Actually, it would be more accurate to say that you got her into your frame and then let her get out I probaby would have tried some kind of slight freeze-out (edit: A better term would be to start pushing her away a bit. push pull is fantastic since it leaves her uncertain. If you want to read up on push-p… | /r/seduction | 11/04/11 02:13 PM |
| 2 | Kassem G showing some great examples of day gameThat's brilliant! Protip: Carry a camera and microphone, approach people with the pretense of an interview. | /r/seduction | 10/04/11 10:19 AM |
| 2 | [April FR #5] Peacocking in the Park (photos attached)I'd like to hear more about the cockblocking AMOGs! Whenever an AMOG tries to barge me out of a set, I just jump or joy in glee inside. Messing with AMOGs makes my fricken day. | /r/seduction | 09/04/11 09:08 AM |
| 1 | Car game? #-close [FR], 75% of the work done without talking, in separate car from the girl.Well, it was the right time to got for the close, since the energy was high and she was working for my attention. The leaving quickly thing... in a club porbably not so great, but this was a very impromptu meetup. Still, it may not have been the best course of action. | /r/seduction | 08/04/11 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Never felt betterText her later on the same day, or if you think you'll have something better to bring her to tomorrow, call/text tomorrow. | /r/seduction | 08/04/11 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Car game? #-close [FR], 75% of the work done without talking, in separate car from the girl.I'd be more than willing to try it again, but I can't particularly see it working again in most cases. Both cars were heading back from clubs, and the other two in her car were a bit drunk, so we were all in the same boat and her group was still in a bit of a party mood. Still, even if you don't think it'll work, there's zero harm in trying! | /r/seduction | 08/04/11 01:45 PM |
| 63 | [April FR #4] I get drunk and tagteam random guy's wifehere I am, caught red-handed inside this man's wife dude, period sex, not cool. | /r/seduction | 08/04/11 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Watch this guy (jimmy carr) dominate 4 female talkshow hosts at once...Yeah he mentions that in his sets quite a bit. I think it's largely cause he's got a slightly odd-looking, very smooth face. And his high pitched voice might contribute to it as well. | /r/seduction | 06/04/11 06:21 PM |
| 3 | Watch this guy (jimmy carr) dominate 4 female talkshow hosts at once...Yeah sure, in real life the host might not have responded well to the "touch wood"comment but it's absolute gold. Jimmy Carr is a professional standup, very well known for how he deals with hecklers, have a look on youtube. Obviously i've never seen him in a real life setting (though i have seen him onstage) and if he's anything like as quick, witty, absolutely self confident and somewhat offensive as he is onstage, he embodies the "vibe" that most PUA material says you should be trying to put a… | /r/seduction | 06/04/11 05:15 PM |
| 4 | shit test or general disinterest?When you walked off, did she re engage you herself, or did you go back to her after a period of time? If she re-engaged you, did you react positively to her, or did you continue the pull-away? | /r/seduction | 05/04/11 07:31 PM |
| 10 | shit test or general disinterest?Push-pull, man. Withdraw your advances, subtly ignore her and pay more attention to other people in the group, and if she's interested she'll get jealous and she'll start chasing you. Edit: I wouldn't call it a shit test, i'd call it a weird form of LMR. | /r/seduction | 05/04/11 07:07 PM |
| 2 | Mini FR. Stuck up HB8So uhh, what did you answer? If it wasn't a pithy one liner putdown, then make one up and lie to us ;) | /r/seduction | 04/04/11 05:45 PM |
| 3 | My noob [FR] and a question about remembering names.Yeah a #-close would have been the right thing to do, and then the name thing wouldn't be a problem cause it would be saved in your phone. But anyway, I'd say remember her name (let's say she's called emily) so if you see her again around and about or at her stall at the mall, you could remember her name, but not instantly. I'd go "oh hey, it's uhh.. emily isn't it?" so you remember her name but not right off the cuff, which i reckon is what would make it odd. And then if she forgets your name y… | /r/seduction | 04/04/11 10:48 AM |
| 4 | Where do I start on here?also, lurking | /r/seduction | 04/04/11 12:25 AM |
| 3 | [FR](first time submitter) went out with a girl, things got pretty steamy/naked, but when it came to sealing the deal she said "I promised myself I would be a good girl tonight".It's worth saying how important commitment is in a freeze out. When you say you're going to check reddit, then you go to check reddit with the full intention of browsing, upvoting, posting away, grabbing a bottle of mountain dew red alert and possibly having a wank later on. If she doesn't re-engage you, that's fine, text her next day. I read a FR where a guy got a girl out of a club and right as they were getting into a taxi she started saying how crazy it was, she never does this, can't do it … | /r/seduction | 03/04/11 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Funny, but I bet it would help defeat AAIt'd be funnier if he was white. | /r/seduction | 02/04/11 11:41 PM |
| 2 | I need an alpha way to get a date with a HB10 this weekend. My idea inside.Hm, having thought how it might play out i'd say not to ask (this is all assuming that you've decided an alpha/cocky-funny approach is the best way forwards for this girl at this time) cause say, you ask her and she says she's going to dinner with becky, or anything really, and you say to ditch it to go with you it comes off as more calculatedly taking her away from whatever she was doing. If on the other hand you just give her something else to do without knowing she's got dinner with becky, th… | /r/seduction | 31/03/11 04:54 PM |
| 2 | I need an alpha way to get a date with a HB10 this weekend. My idea inside.I'd go for something similar to the "my friends are more fun than yours, you should hang out with us" line that works wonders for isolating in person in bars and such. So i'd keep your second text pretty much unchanged, but for the first one write something like "Whatever you're doing, i've got something more fun to do. Interested?" I can't quite think of a way to tone back the sexual innuendo in that though... I don't want it all the way gone, but "something more fun" instantly sounds like you … | /r/seduction | 31/03/11 11:47 AM |
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