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Did this particular person call you a liar?
/r/MensRights18/03/21 03:14 AM
1

Really? Calling someone a child rapist for disagreeing with you?
/r/MensRights18/03/21 01:41 AM
1

Thanks :)
/r/MensRights01/03/21 03:58 AM
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“Because men are 9 times less likely to talk about it.” Can I have a source on that?
/r/MensRights01/03/21 02:17 AM
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Women-on-women would also be counted
/r/MensRights19/02/21 10:10 PM
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I’ve got some US stats on prison sexual assault: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/flilcsvjf12.pdf (Juvenile Detention) https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri1112.pdf https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf (Juvenile Detention) https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/pdca12.pdf
/r/MensRights17/02/21 05:28 PM
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Eh, let’s not forget that women are more likely to be sexually assaulted than men in prison, just not by staff. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri1112.pdf
/r/MensRights31/01/21 05:27 AM
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Good point, actually
/r/MensRights23/01/21 03:56 AM
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And the experience that “only men are taught how not to rape” is also not accounting for everyone, so....?
/r/MensRights22/01/21 10:39 PM
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We are. That’s the point I’m trying to make here. I was taught the same things about consent and abusive relationship as the boys in my class.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 03:52 PM
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And... those are anecdotes. It’s unfortunate what they went thru, but saying that only males are taught “not to rape” is wrong.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 05:43 AM
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This is typically how it works in schools tho. They don’t single out the boys for consent ed.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 11:53 PM
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Just bc some women do something doesn’t it’s right. Saying “women can’t control their emotions” is a generalization, and if you want this movement to be taken seriously, statements like that should be left out.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 01:33 PM
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“...and more stable in their emotions than women.” Can we keep this type of stuff out of this movement? It gives it a bad rep.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 03:47 AM
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I was sort of talking to her mainly, bc she mentioned in the post how she had “read all these stories online about men being abusive,” so she thought all were that way.
/r/MensRights19/01/21 02:29 PM
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Honestly, thank you for sharing your experiences and posting this comment. :) I know this sub will probably downvote you, but I really think we need to get out of these echo chambers. This sub is can be an echo chamber in the same way TwoXChromosomes can be. In my personal opinion, people need to stop basing their opinions off of anecdotes posted on the internet. I think that’s really what a lot of the internet’s problems stem from. Things that outrage get more clicks, upvotes, etc.
/r/MensRights18/01/21 05:36 AM
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It’s weird, because I’m pretty sure the same people who say this are, at least in part, the reason this happens. If you generalize men as, idk, rapey, not knowing anything about female reproductive organs, and stuff that’s just asshole-y in general people, especially susceptible teenagers and even children reading this shit, are going to be like, okay, that’s how men are. And then, they’re gonna be shocked when they resize, oh, most men aren’t that way. Idk. I don’t think that’s completely why t…
/r/MensRights18/01/21 04:30 AM
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Ok, I’ve looked through a couple, and it’s still only GA with gendered rape laws. Idk. I’ve never heard of one of these cases going to court, though, so even though it’s unjust, I’m not sure if it matters that much.
/r/MensRights08/01/21 10:20 PM
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Well, the law didn’t just include “sexual intrusion.” It also includes “sexual penetration.” Sexual intrusion is supposed to reflect times where the victim was penetrated by something that was not a penis/tongue, hence the “...except the mouth tongue or penis....” part.
/r/MensRights08/01/21 08:20 PM
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It doesn’t say who’s the perpetrator, unless I’m missing something. It’s basically just a penetrative sex act.
/r/MensRights08/01/21 06:40 PM
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That’s a bit gray, though. “Made to penetrate” would involve a penetrative sex act, and an intrusion. It would probably count, but considering it’s so rare (at least for these cases to go to trial), there’s probably never been an example of that happening.
/r/MensRights08/01/21 05:53 PM
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Bruh... there’s literally no rape allegations, in my school at least. Or, well, that’s not completely true. There was one in 6th grade where a boy accused a girl of rape but I doubt that was true, mostly due to ages. That was weird lmao Anyways, were there any false rape allegations in your high school? Even any rape allegations at all? Probably not. It’s not the norm. The same way Brock Turner only getting sentenced to 6 months in prison for rape isn’t the norm. Reddit probably isn’t the best p…
/r/MensRights07/01/21 04:18 PM
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That case is isolated. It is an exception and not the rule. I’m sure you can find plenty of cases where boys hit/raped girls and didn’t get punished for it in school. Doesn’t mean it’s the norm.
/r/MensRights07/01/21 03:42 PM
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Could you give me of an example of a state with gendered rape laws that’s not ga?
/r/MensRights07/01/21 02:29 PM
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I don’t think it’s either of those things, although they may make a difference. I stated this. I think it’s just becoming more common, due to a variety of reasons. It’s still a misleading statistic.
/r/MensRights07/01/21 02:51 AM
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The 50something% of rapists are men is undoubtedly misleading, though, possibly at the same level as the 99% one. This is the study you’re referring to, if I am correct: https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf You’re using the yearly statistics instead of the lifetime ones. If we were to use the lifetime ones: 19.1% of women have “raped” and 5.9% of men have been “made to penetrate.” That’s a clear difference. I do think that yearly stats are important, mostly to obs…
/r/MensRights07/01/21 02:00 AM
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Okay. Indiana: https://apps.rainn.org/policy/policy-crime-definitions.cfm?state=Indiana&group=3 Ohio: https://apps.rainn.org/policy/policy-crime-definitions.cfm?state=Ohio&group=3 Iowa: https://apps.rainn.org/policy/policy-crime-definitions.cfm?state=Iowa&group=3 I’m not gonna cite every single state law bc that’s ridiculous, but the only exception to this rule I’ve seen is Georgia.
/r/MensRights07/01/21 12:33 AM
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“...legally men can’t be rape victims of women at all.” This is completely untrue, at least in the US. Look at state laws. Just cuz it mentions penetration doesn’t mean that made to penetrate isn’t counted as rape, unless it mentioned the victim being the penetrated.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 11:59 PM
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Ok, so Mary Koss is a piece of shit. Does she identify as a feminist? Is she representative of all feminists if she is? I think it’s unfair to use her to make all feminists look bad, the same way it’s bad to use Paul Elam or the likes to make all MRAs look bad.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 11:42 PM
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Yeah, and it’s not super gendered everywhere either. It shouldn’t be dealt in absolutes. Nothing happens everywhere. Anyways, about the woman, I scrolled through the Reddit thread a bit, and she didn’t say “made to penetrate” isn’t “rape,” she simply said that she didn’t believe it happened as much as men attacking women/men. She never downplayed the severity of it. I do, however, disagree with her gendered approach, for quite obvious reasons. (Thanks for all the sources though. You’re quite goo…
/r/MensRights06/01/21 11:24 PM
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First of all, consent education isn’t gendered??? I got the same consent talk as the boys at my school. Idk where you’re getting that from. I’m sure social media focuses on boys more about that stuff, probably cuz they believe (and I’m quite obviously aware that you don’t agree with this) that men and boys make up the majority of rapists, not that women/girls never do it. Anyways, I feel like the people basing programs off those statistics would probably read the whole study. Yeah, your average …
/r/MensRights06/01/21 11:06 PM
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Key sentence: “Thought he was a sexual assault victim.” Anyways, I never said it shouldn’t count. I’m saying that just bc somebody didn’t think they were a sexual assault victim doesn’t mean they’re not a sexual assault victim, and vice versa.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 10:50 PM
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Eh, the whole thing about not thinking they’re a sexual assault victim is a bit of a gray area. Does it only count as sexual assault if you think it was? What about if you think something that was pretty obviously sexual assault wasn’t? Does that not count as sexual assault? How many of those “made to penetrate” victims do you think viewed it as sexual assault? Idk I just feel like it’s not the end all be all of this type of stuff.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 07:13 PM
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Mainly using extremes of the side your trying to demonize and saying all the people on that side are like that. Yeah, there are people who identify as feminists who are really shitty people. There are also people who identify as MRAs who are really shitty people. Pretending like the entire group is like that is stupid, and completely unproductive. I wish feminists and MRAs could have a civil conversation without yelling at each other how misogynistic/misandristic the other side is. I think you g…
/r/MensRights06/01/21 06:50 PM
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Yeah, I agree with you on that. I wish MRAs would focus more on solving issues than just demonizing feminism. Like... workplace deaths. Yeah, most are male. How are you gonna fix that? I’ve never seen a thread on here about fixing workplace deaths. On the other hand, feminists do have more power than MRAs in society, so I think it’s somewhat fair that MRAs focus on feminists more than feminists focus on MRAs. And I’m really sorry your friends experienced that ):
/r/MensRights06/01/21 06:18 PM
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The whole thing about girls experiencing sexual harassment is a bit overblown. Yeah, it definitely exists, but I’ve never been sexually harassed, and to my knowledge none of my friends have. The whole thing about women experiencing mind blowing amounts of sexual harassment, and that EVERY woman has experienced it, is not true whatsoever. The whole feminism thing, yeah, I agree with you on that somewhat. MRAs use the same tactics to demonize feminists as feminists use to demonize MRAs. The hypocr…
/r/MensRights06/01/21 05:39 PM
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...source? Double standards don’t exist everywhere. I see it a lot here and in feminist groups, and in social movements in general. If you have a study on it, I’d like to see it.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 05:23 PM
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Where tf do you live? Cuz here, I mean... girls get punished plenty of times for hitting people. When I was younger, I sometimes hit my brother (it was wrong, definitely, but I was like 9) and my parents punished me for it, as they did when he hit me. At school... I’ve never seen anybody hit anybody at school. I know there’s been a couple of same-sex fights, but I don’t really pay attention to that shit. If you wanna get into sexual shit, well, some girls got suspended for spreading a boys nude …
/r/MensRights06/01/21 01:28 AM
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Boys... shouldn’t hit girls? Except in the case of self-defense (not retaliation, even though those get messed up a lot. ie just because a girl hits a boy doesn’t mean the boy has the right to hit her, however if the girl is PHYSICALLY ATTACKING the boy, then he has the right to use the necessary amount of force to get her to stop.)
/r/MensRights06/01/21 12:28 AM
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The circumstances: Where the victim is under sixteen (16) years of age; No person can be convicted of rape or rape by instrumentation on account of an act of sexual intercourse with anyone over the age of fourteen (14) years, with his or her consent, unless such person was over the age of eighteen (18) years at the time of such act. Where the victim is incapable through mental illness or any other unsoundness of mind, whether temporary or permanent, of giving legal consent; Where force or violen…
/r/MensRights23/12/20 12:20 AM
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Well, you can search up laws in all states here, but it seems most states actually define it as “sexual intercourse,” not “sexual penetration” (although this doesn’t actually mean they exclude f-m, unless it explicitly says something about the perp being the penetrator lol).
/r/MensRights22/12/20 11:19 PM
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It is fucked that marital rape isn’t considered rape in Oklahoma, I agree. Saying “laws can be easily twisted” is kind of a straw man, though. Yeah, like any other law, it can be twisted by corrupt people. However, we’re talking hypotheticals here, and so, yes, in Oklahoma, if a woman put a gun to a man’s head and made him have sex with her, it would legally be rape.
/r/MensRights22/12/20 11:00 PM
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Most states have replaced “rape” laws with different degrees of sexual assault, but here’s Oklahoma: https://apps.rainn.org/policy/policy-crime-definitions.cfm?state=Oklahoma&group=3 “Rape:” Rape is an act of sexual intercourse involving vaginal or anal penetration accomplished with a male or female who is not the spouse of the perpetrator and who may be of the same or the opposite sex as the perpetrator under any of the following circumstances...” So, there. You got your state
/r/MensRights22/12/20 10:40 PM
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In most US states it is legally rape, tho.......?
/r/MensRights22/12/20 09:57 PM
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Guess I shouldn’t have put the “lol” after it. Didn’t mean it to say it’s funny, just a habit I’ve gotten into for ending sentences (lol) Okay, so if you accept these stats as true, you also have to accept that 1 in 5 women will be raped in their life too, right? Because that’s what the CDC study says. And the the part about male rapists being abused by women as kids... couldn’t you always argue the reverse? Most female rapists have probably been abused by men as kids, I’m assuming. Also, consid…
/r/MensRights18/12/20 10:01 PM
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“...but each year over 40% of perpetrators of nonconsensual sex are women.” ??? There’s no fucking way that’s true lol. But... source?
/r/MensRights18/12/20 09:47 PM
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“To be domestic abusers with no consequences.” “To be rapists with few consequences.” Who’s arguing for these, though? Plenty of women get charged with these crimes, and very few people argue they shouldn’t lol. Even Feminists, even radical ones. This kinda feels like grasping at straws.
/r/MensRights18/12/20 09:21 PM
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This is so fucking true though. A lot of the posts in this sub talk about how this affects boys, but it really affects girls too. Like, I never feared men or boys at all until I got social media when I was around 12-13, just because they never did anything. But then, I got surrounded by all these posts and shit about it and now I’m suspicious of a man even if he does the smallest thing weird. I mean, I agree, there are shitty men out there but when you’re surrounded by those messages it’s just..…
/r/MensRights16/12/20 08:35 PM
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