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grindlegrundle/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 08:02 PM
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I don't think ALL redpillers lack ALL nuance, but I do think a lot of them aren't as smart or insightful as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 05:33 PM
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Hoooooooly shit what a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 02:19 PM
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Okay but your description hasn't gotten me any closer to identifying who and what is and isn't a Chad. I've known people with exceptional skill and presence, but I don't know whether or not you'd consider those people Chads because you haven't given any specific criteria besides that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 02:05 AM
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Well yeah, of course women want a man with similar values to them, who thinks highly of them and has their best interests at heart. All else being equal they're going to choose the guy with those qualities over one without. TRP is just doing their usual chest beating/hamstering when they say otherwise, nothing new there. No, I don't think it does. It has more to do with the politics of the women in question, and I don't think that anti feminist women are any more or less attractive than pro femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 01:52 AM
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Ok then to answer your question: Yes, I'm a feminist in the loosest possible sense. No, I am single. Yes, I would hook up with a Chad provided I liked him enough. No, I don't "automatically" feel attracted to guys of that archetype, I like all kinds of guys. And the only guy I've been with that even resembles that archetype was my high school boyfriend. But I took his virginity, we were together long distance for 3 years, and he was Dutch, not American. None of the other guys I've been with have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 11:34 PM
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What have I said that you consider a personal attack? Genuinely curious because I don't know how what I said could be construed in a negative way, let alone a personally antagonistic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 11:22 PM
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What the hell are you on about? Who's attacking? If you don't have a counterargument you can just stop replying you know, twisting yourself into knots to get offended by an offhand comment doesn't strengthen your original claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 06:37 PM
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What is a Chad in this scenario? Just any attractive man, or something more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 06:33 PM
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In this case... Yeah, kinda? What you are describing is an issue that one might have in their personal life that is separate from the m/h complex. Even if it's not something you personally have experienced, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're not just pulling it out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 06:21 PM
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I'm not trying to be insulting lol. Your definition had to have come from somewhere, maybe your personal life or maybe those of people you've talked to. If someone is experiencing what you describe it could be a real problem, it's just not the same problem that Freud was describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 06:11 PM
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Er. No. Per the original Freudian definition: Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded (the whore) while they cannot desire the respected partner (the Madonna). "Where such men love they have no desire and where they desire they cannot love." -Sigmund Freud What you describe might be a problem you've personally encountered, but it ain't the Madonna-Whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 05:38 PM
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The whole deal with the madonna whore complex is that men who have it can't feel attracted to the madonna
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:34 AM
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I wasn't even thinking of traditional monogamous societies lol, those seem like ones where the m/h complex would be at its strongest. I was thinking of relatively gender egalitarian societies where divorce and re-coupling are not frowned upon and women are not considered "tainted" by having had sex before, like !Kung Bushmen and Swedes. The vaguely Judeo-Christian sexual morality the leads to the m/h complex is pretty pervasive, but the fact that it does have to "spread" to people that don't alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 12:38 AM
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There are clearly societies in the world where the Madonna Whore complex doesn't exist, so that kinda throws a wrench in your whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 10:27 PM
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Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 07:59 PM
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Most sexually adventurous virgins stop being virgins pretty quickly due to the aforementioned sexual adventurosity. You can definitely find a girl who is fun in bed and totally lacks "slut tells," but you aren't gonna find a girl who is simultaneously super inexperienced and super willing to try new things unless you skulk around high schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 04:24 PM
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If anyone anywhere is using sex as a punishment they are def doing it wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 04:14 PM
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Dance ability is super attractive in both men and women, imo. It takes an amazing amount of strength and coordination, it can be very sensual, and it just plain looks cool. I think whether or not it reads as feminine or masculine depends on the dancer and how they interpret the movements, not just the choreo. Watching all these vids is really making me want to get back into dance, it's so much fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 04:12 PM
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CMV: Men are inferior. Evidence: This post was written by a man and it sucks ass
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 02:30 AM
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Would keeping a class of slutty women as some sort of stable(aside from prostitution) to satisfy mens sex cravings be sufficient. And then a class of women who are chaste?? That is basically what they say they do. Bang sluts, commit to chaste women. However, life is rarely so simple, and plenty of sluts get happily wifed up. And plenty of chaste women end up lonely or in bad marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:21 AM
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If by "shit test" you mean "gentle teasing" then yes because it's fun. If you mean purposely needling my partner to get a reaction that will determine if if he's "worthy" of me then no because I'm not a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 07:57 PM
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What does that even mean lol. Do you actually believe that no woman has ever had unrequited love for a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 05:45 PM
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They absolutely are and do. Men care about different qualities than women, but they will always try to bag a woman who is better looking and/or higher social status than they are first, and will only go for their equals or lower if they can't manage that. And men certainly do love women for the sex, cleaning, cooking, and child rearing services they provide, amongst other things. Just look on any thread here that asks men "what do you like most about your SO?" I'm not saying that both men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 05:21 PM
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"""Misandry""" aside this is as close to an actual inverse (in tone and content) of AWALT as I've seen on this thread, so kudos
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 05:15 PM
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Well, the stuff you mentioned for a start. Shallowness, branch swinging, hypergamy, loving women for what they can do for them, keeping orbiters/plates (using low status women who like them for sex, favors, and emotional support), lying and manipulating, cheating. Men are not angels, as anyone who has dated men can tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 05:05 PM
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A friend of mine is nominally bi and I guess had a boyfriend in high school, but it seems like every two weeks he's once again falling in gross, gooey love with a new ~quirky~ sugary sweet woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 04:58 PM
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I’ll let u in on a secret: Men do a lot of “awalt” things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 04:14 AM
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AMALT is something that every woman should automatically have internalized by the time she's in her 20s. All men are shallow. He will not love you for what's inside unless the outside looks nice too. All men want sex (duh), preferably with a variety of partners. Even the most moral men will do and say pretty much anything to get an attractive woman in the sack, including outright lying about how much they like her and whether or not they want a relationship. All men want love, but they will only…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 08:45 PM
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I'm just gonna echo what everyone else is saying here and advise you to slow the fuck down. You're only 24 and not even out of college, the absolute worst thing you could do right now is rush into a flawed marriage to a girl with a host of red flags just because you're desperate. Wait to see what the Somali girl's parents say. Keep looking for other traditional African girls if that one falls through; They're the only ones who are gonna be compatible with your worldview and relationship goals. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 08:17 PM
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They don't feel as much pressure to perform masculinity in a socially acceptable way. No one can hurt you by calling you gay for being a little bit feminine if you actually are gay. And before someone says "no it's because they don't have to date women duh huh huh" I know several straight and bi guys in relationships with women who are the same way: Chatty, warm, a bit effeminate but not in an off putting way. And yeah, they seem much happier. Loosen up, lads!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 07:55 PM
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Oh my god no that’s not how it works hahaha. Epigenetics doesn’t mean “super fast natural selection,” it’s just the study of changes in gene expression. You can’t change the expression of genes that aren’t there, and the tangible changes that occur in real life are very subtle. Women don’t have secret amazons lurking within our genes that can be unlocked with enough exercise- If we did, there would already be super women out there. Primordial women did a lot more physical activity than you give …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 06:31 AM
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Sure, I think all women should have at least a basic knowlege of self defense. Seems like common sense. This however: mother nature only supplies that which is in demand. If mother nature is not given an incentive to provide women with strength, because women continue to defer protection to males, then she will not bring women up to men's level. Nothing will change on the biological level. Is made up fantasy non-science. "Mother nature" doesn't work like that. "She" will not magically grant wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 04:36 AM
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Female, early 20s, 6. Never had to lie since I've never been asked! Although frankly anyone who would balk at an n-count of 6 is not someone I'd be interested in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 09:17 PM
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Yes, I have a fwb right now. The aspects of him that made me "do it" is that he's cute, fun in bed and I enjoy his company, but we're both very busy, he's not LTR material, and neither of us know where we're going to be living in a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 09:07 PM
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Jewish and Asian immigrants faced a completely different set of problems than the ones that prevent(ed) women from achieving in the workforce at the same rate as men. Sure there were social barriers, but part of the difference is simple biology. Women will always be the ones to give birth and will almost always be the ones to raise children, which takes up a significant chunk of one's active life. To suggest that women are mentally inferior because some continue to prioritize family over grindin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 08:40 PM
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Lol geez. Well hey maybe he was talking about the Hugh Dancy film i heard that was pretty good
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 05:44 PM
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God, thank you! Good to see some comprehensive history up in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 05:10 PM
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Sometimes I'm absolutely baffled by the lack of historical knowlege displayed on this sub. Like... Didn't you guys attend high school?? Did you sleep through all that stuff with the suffragettes??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 05:08 PM
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They do. Lots of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 05:05 PM
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males fear it way less, which means woman are less capable of murdering I think it's less that "men" are more capable of muder than "women" than it is that here are more men that don't fear social consequences (ie sociopaths) and therefore more men are capable of murder than women. A random, mentally healthy man off the street is probably no more capable of murder than a random woman off the street. Still, whether "men" are more capable of murder than "women" is still a moot point if we consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 05:00 PM
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This completely contradicts your op lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 02:00 PM
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women are perpetually afraid of social ostracism, which prevents them from murdering. in this context, their kindness is fear-motivated self-preservation Well, since the vast majority of humans, male or female, fear social ostracism and legal consequences, then you might as well say that there is no such thing as genuine kindness, period. If morality is dictated not by actions but by the pureness of intentions, then no one is moral, because we all have motivations besides a desire for goodness t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 03:33 AM
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Apparently men do still commit more white collar crime, but yeah the proportion isn't as extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 03:03 AM
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Lol, well, good luck getting those laws passed Commander Waterford!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:56 AM
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But like... why? We're not facing a population crisis, and uneducated women make poor mothers. Just seems like a petty excuse to disadvantage women compared to their male peers who would get to start school early and complete it without the burden of parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:41 AM
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Lol. How to get red pillers to celebrate murder and/or sucicide in one easy step: Imply that men are better at it. Did you know that men are more likely to be child molesters too? It's because of their superior agency, I'm sure. Women just don't have the ambition or intelligence to rape kids!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:38 AM
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That is effectively the same as banning them from the workforce, or at least from high achievement within it. It would also be impossible to enforce without going full Handmaid's Tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 11:57 PM
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your position is that women don't do this because they're moral. mine is that they don't do it because they're scared. These are not mutually exclusive. I do however believe that if women were magically given the same physical strength as men, that men would still commit more violent crime due to women's greater levels of agreeableness. Caring about social consequences is part of morality, at least in most people's conception of it. the rabbit is "kind" to the lion because it does not want to di…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 11:15 PM
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That sounds like some grade-a hamstering right there. It is nonsensical to assume that women commit less crime because of weakness unless you can somehow prove that strength is a cause of criminality. It takes no particular strength, physical or mental, to fire a gun or commit fraud. There are multiple possible reasons why men are more prone to criminality besides inferior moral character, but "women are too weak" isn't one of them. The idea that those who are weaker are incapable of genuine kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 10:23 PM
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I don't see what that has to do with it. If you're making a point about men's collective morality, the demographics of the victims don't matter, only the perps. It's the people committing the murders who are morally bankrupt. Killing someone of your own gender is still murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 09:53 PM
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Only extreme feminists respect men because they see them as the rapists, abusers, and lazy deadbeats that they truly are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 09:47 PM
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89.5% of murders are committed by men just fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 09:42 PM
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Self defense I guess? Not that a face punch would be my first choice in such a situation. A nad kick or eye gouge would be more effective. Maybe if I found out the person was a child/animal/disabled person molester? A punch might be appropriate there since it'd be a symbolic gesture than more than anything. The gender of the punchee is of no matter, I'm too small to do much damage either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 09:38 PM
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So what would happen in your perfect world? The 33% of women who are suited to those jobs would be banned from those fields because vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 09:05 PM
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cool so you're defining a word ("respect") as something completely different that what it is in order to justify your beliefs and make them seem more palatable to people who don't share them and never will. just another day in redland
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 08:58 PM
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There are many things that impact marital stability more than n count
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 02:18 AM
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You don't get out much, do you? Your idea of the life of an average promiscuous woman sounds like it comes from a shitty b-movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 02:04 AM
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Why wouldn’t she be? He may not be as pretty as she is but he’s still handsome, not to mention ex-military and a literal prince. Based on what I’ve seen of him he also seems very charming and well spoken. I know if I showed up to a blind date and the guy looked and acted like Harry but he was a middle class accountant I sure wouldn’t leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 09:14 PM
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Tbf it might've just seemed excessive to me in comparison to NYC where it's a sin to look like you're trying at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 05:09 PM
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Girl 3 is your only real option. The first two just sound like they’re playing with you, and even if you managed to get either of them interested they’d probably tire of your attempts to “mould” them. I see no harm in pursuing 3 further though, her parents might be less of a problem than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 04:15 PM
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Lol what? I saw more heavy pancake makeup and bleach blond hair in one year in London than in 20 in New York. Idk about other parts of the UK but I was taken aback at how over the top some Londoners go with their personal appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 04:01 PM
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What makes you think it wasn't? The "voice" of the story def sounds like a woman to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 02:30 AM
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Seems like the dad was a good man when they married. Hard to predict how people will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 01:59 AM
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Also, every time I have mentioned non-positive things about him, I’ve been gleefully dogpiled by people cheering for the failure of my relationship. Yeah, was about to say something like this. Some manospherians are very emotionally invested in women’s collective misery and will look for any excuse to tear down their lives and relationships if it validates their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 10:09 PM
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yeah and they're all the same 3 incels wearing different hats and false moustaches
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 04:37 AM
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damn u didn’t fall for my very clever trap
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:27 PM
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Yeah, u!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 10:44 PM
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Because otherwise we’d all have like 37 boyfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:05 PM
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Are you a time traveler from 1872? If so, welcome! If not, what is the point of this post? Who gives a fuck about “chastity” besides like 3 incels and that one Muslim guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:04 PM
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Have fun w the future divorce!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 05:47 PM
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Every post you make, I feel sorrier for your future wife
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 05:06 PM
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It’s pretty uncouth for non black people to say “nigga” as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:42 PM
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You’re an incel what would you know
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:36 PM
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Well, I’ve never been super attractive so I wouldn’t know first hand, but one of my longtime friends is an absolute stunner and has been since she was like 12. Basically, it led to her being preyed on by much older men at a very young age, which caused her to devolop an unhealthy relationship with herself, her sexuality, and the male gender. She’s doing fine now and has an equally gorgeous boyfriend who adores her, but I wouldn’t wish her tween years on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 06:37 PM
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While I disagree that RPW (at least original RPW) is “for men,” I do think that for women not in tradcon relationships it can do more harm than good. Most (non tradcon) high value men don’t want someone submissive, conservative, and endlessly agreeable. They want someone with passion, and an interesting life. Someone they can push back against a little, and have cool conversations and adventures with. I got really into RPW after my first major LTR ended, thinking that it would help me find more …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 06:26 PM
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Oh, lord, you again. Alright I’ll bite: Men (generally) like having their stomachs, chests, and necks/jaws kissed, not their legs and nipples. Seems like most replies ITT support this. If in your mind women having different anatomy and erogenous zones than men is somehow evidence that they hate their partners and suck in bed, then I really dk what to tell you mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 06:02 PM
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I emit low level radiation that has a healing and invigorating effect on those around me. After 3 months of dating, my boyfriend is almost completely bullet proof
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 02:22 AM
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What is with all the posts like this lately? Did you all watch The Handmaid's Tale and get inspired?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 02:09 AM
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Yes! I definitely make sure, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the person I’m fucking wants to fuck me before I fuck them. And that if they ask me to stop or act like they’re not enjoying what’s going on, I stop. That’s what enthusiastic consent means, not asking “mother may I” before every single ass touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 12:48 AM
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Bc a big chunk of people here are good old fashioned racists
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 03:31 PM
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Oh, I see now lol. Missed the "makes a similar amount of sense."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 03:26 PM
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"Marriage 2.0" happened for a variety of social and cultural reasons, not because the king of the world snapped his fingers and said make it so. There would be no enforceable way to bring back "marriage 1.0" without systematically stripping women of their rights, Handmaid's Tale style. I also disagree that "marriage 1.0" is necessarily the best way to raise children. Having two parents around is certainly good, but you can have that and still give women some choice over who they end up with and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 02:11 AM
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Government officials didn't snap their fingers and change the nature of marriage lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 01:56 AM
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RP goes off and shows guys how to build those attractive guys out of the neckbeards...Now we’re horrible misogynist shitlords Oh come on you know that's not why people accuse TRP of misogyny. There's lots of self improvement stuff for men out there that doesn't brand itself as a he-man woman haters club.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 12:48 AM
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I don't think it's some kind of grand conspiracy, just the result of cultural change. Frankly I think we'd all be a lot happier if we put less weight on getting our emotional needs met exclusively by romantic partners and leaned on friends more. Many women already do this, and I think men would be less devastated by loneliness and breakups if they did as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:01 PM
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If someone's downvoting you it ain't me! But here have a boost
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 08:22 AM
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Explaining possible motivations for a behavior in a thread about that behavior is "hamstering" how exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 07:59 AM
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If the manosphere actually cared about reducing single motherhood they'd be advocating for health and reproductive education and easy access of contraception, a la Planned Parenthood. When they talk about "deterring" or "not incentivizing" single motherhood they seem to mean "making life even more difficult for poor single mothers and their children," which makes me think they are more interested in hurting women than in helping society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 07:45 AM
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Man, I feel bad for OP. If the gf is having a lark or expressing frustration I guess he could tell her how he feels and ask her to knock it off, but if she's totally serious he should just dump her. It makes no sense to date someone who hates your gender, implicitly or explicitly, or who makes you feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:27 PM
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Seriously. Just when I think TRP has backed off the racism a little...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:09 PM
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You don't notice the assimilated Latinos- get this- because they have assimilated. The immigrants living in Spanish speaking ghettos are recent immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 04:30 AM
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Ok, seems fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:59 PM
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I may regret asking this but what do you mean by “more than spiritual equals?”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 09:05 PM
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Are you for real? People on here treat friendzoning like it's the worst of human evils, and act like men who lead women on to use them for sex are exercising some God given right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 06:54 AM
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One would hope!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 10:50 PM
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I don't think you or I or anyone else is even remotely qualified to speak to women's motivations in this matter. By that standard, we might as well close this whole place down. It’s practically nothing but speculation on others’ motivations. Besides, I am a woman, I know many women, and I know the intimate details of some of their romantic and sexual lives. I’m as qualified to speculate as any one person can be. And note the different tone: "toxic masculinity" is an evil that must be addressed, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 10:48 PM
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Like I said in another thread, Men will perceive women as "promising sex" just by virtue of our existence. Most women don't "bait and switch" on purpose, they just exist, with bodies, and clueless men make up the rest themselves. That’s not to say that some women don’t use sexual manipulation on purpose, but I really don’t think it’s as common as guys perceive it to be. Edit: Female, early twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 08:52 PM
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Men will perceive women as "promising sex" just by virtue of our existence. Most women don't "bait and switch" on purpose, they just exist, with bodies, and clueless men make up the rest themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:09 PM
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Alright I'll give you that I don't hang out with a lot of PTA moms, thank god. the majority of friendships that women have arent real. That isn't what you originally said though, you said that "being a women is the best thing ever except that you don't have friends." Most women have friends- real, good, loyal friends. That doesn't mean that every person you know and act civilly towards has to be your friend though. The word you're looking for is acquaintance. Men have those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 10:32 AM
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I don't know what to tell you dude, I certainly can't imagine having a real friendship with someone who is a stuck up bitch who thinks all women suck. "Mean girls" hardly exist after high school, but in high school they gain followers because they are beautiful, charismatic, and often manipulators. You can have the first two without the third. I simply to do buy your premise that the majority of women have no real friendships. That doesn't vibe with my experience or that of 99% of women I know. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 10:09 AM
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I'll give you that I don't know much about Thailand as a culture. There might be more going on there than just legal prostitution but who knows. Prostitution in the Netherlands is legal everywhere, but brothels tend to be concentrated in certain areas. Afaik the Dutch are indeed doing just fine, sex wise. They're much less conservative than Americans in many ways. Most women are still feminist or feminist adjacent there though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 09:43 AM
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I think being a decent person will bring you friends who are also decent people. Like tends to attract like. Turn off the TV if you don't like Kim K, she's just a media figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 09:31 AM
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I see it all the time all around me You see what you look for How about all those examples Anecdata and confirmation bias. For every example you have that "proves" that women can't be friends, I could give you five that show they can. But it wouldn't matter because you've already made up your mind. The fact that girls cant be real friends and backstab each other is a known fact If you get all your facts about girls from high school movies. "Girl drama" certainly exists but I see no rampant backs…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 08:59 AM
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One thing for sure when sex is easily available women have to show more value to men. Really? During my brief foray into the Dutch SMP I never got the impression that Dutch women were overall better in any way besides height.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 08:50 AM
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Yeah, that. I'm not saying social skills are intrinsic, but they do come easier to some people than others, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 08:18 PM
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Toxic femininity exists, but it means basically the same thing as toxic masculinity: Internalizing gender rolls/stereotypes to the point of self harm. For instance women who starve themselves, act helpless, sacrifice their dignity for male validation, etc. Girls being dicks to each other isn't automatically toxic femininity, it's just people being people. Men fight each other too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 08:14 PM
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Either you're not actually a woman and you're trolling, or you have bigger problems than your femaleness holding you back from good friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 08:00 PM
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She's "victim blaming" this lady for having shitty friendships? I don't think it's crazy to say that if everyone you encounter sucks, you might be part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:59 PM
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No but I think a of of guys are nervous, un-emotive, or try-hard when talking to women. Genuine charisma takes a lot of practice unless you're naturally gifted, which few people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:45 PM
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The biggest players I personally know are nice, friendly normies with incredible social skills. They just make everyone around them feel awesome, including the women. They're all decent looking, but I know much hotter guys that don't pull as much as these "Chads."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 06:07 PM
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I guess. Seems odd to me too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 01:27 PM
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That's just the human version of the "guess how many jellybeans in the jar" game lol. I think people here are talking about asking her weight as a form of vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:19 AM
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it pretty much is, the focus is just on the desirability of the woman not the humiliation of the man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:14 AM
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hey quick question how the fuck is men abandoning their families the fault of women or feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 09:13 PM
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Maybe try stepping away from your computer for a minute. There are happy relationships, not to mention average guys getting casual sex, everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:23 PM
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They definitely do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:15 PM
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Orrrrrrrr it's the result of people getting off on transgression. Which is a well documented phenomenon of human sexuality. And more sexual freedom gives people the room to explore transgressive fantasies. But hey maybe it is feminism, just like craft beer and gay frogs. what the hell do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 03:58 PM
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OP are you really suggesting that getting some of your non-romantic emotional needs met by people other than your partner is considered cheating? Haven't you ever had, y'know, friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 09:11 PM
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Most snakes are harmless. Those of us who like snakes get pretty good at telling the harmless from the poisonous. If you think snakes are gross, or your experiences with venomous snakes have turned you off of them in aggregate, you don't have to chase 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:27 PM
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Yeah, I was talking about from an evolutionary perspective. It benefits everyone for a man to be “held accountable” to his family, but mostly his children. Hell, even in the 21st century a man is less likely to abandon his family if there’s some tangible drawback to doing so. His kids may not be eaten by lions without him, but they’ll turn out better if he sticks around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:10 PM
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...Yeah? There's a big difference between a rattlesnake and a corn snake. If you like snakes, you might have to risk getting bit in pursuit on the nicer ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 07:21 AM
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i can't believe the jews invented marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:55 AM
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He derives benefit from his children not dying lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:49 AM
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Sure, a good body can help a lot. Developing great game is a lot harder than developing some decent biceps. But if you're socially inept, that can still sink you. I would say try to work on both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:43 AM
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Correlation =/= causation. It's not like there's a magic number of dicks you can casually touch that will turn you into a cheater if you weren't one before. Not all casual sex is ONS's. You can have good sex with someone you're not officially dating Discretion and tact are key Condoms And women have casual sex because drumroll sex is fun and sometimes u horny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:23 AM
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Pure male solipsism right there. Raw physical attraction is not just looks based for women. It has to to with body language, voice, status signals, social skills, and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:07 AM
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“Attractive and high quality” has more components than just looks for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:17 AM
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It’s kinda off putting, when you talk about it like that! First off, “I” am not “women,” I am me. One individual person, with my own business to take care of, not part of a hive mind. I don’t derive any validation from “men” doing nutty things to get “women.” Secondly, you talk about men building empires in pursuit of pussy, but men will also just force/coerce women into sleeping with them. The latter is a real possibility, the former is unlikely unless you’re Helen of Troy. That possibility is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:30 PM
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Why do you keep asking these questions as if the situation in question is just a given lol Ive never used my sexuality to get anything other than, well, sex. I’m sure having a pretty face has helped me along in ways that I’m not fully aware of, but I have no idea how I’d even go about purposely “using my sexuality” for personal gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:47 PM
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Like clockwork 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:16 AM
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Women have it worse than men They do, in some ways and in some places! That doesn't render men's issues unimportant. It's not a zero sum game
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:14 AM
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Shout it to the rooftops man. It's such a bizarre double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:05 AM
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I’m sympathetic to the issues they face as men, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to throw all women everywhere under the bus I maintain the label of feminist because of the historical connotations that it has and because I believe globally women’s issues require more organized attention. Not because I care about women and women alone, especially not in the West. I think men's and women's issues are both important. However, there is no male equivalent to, say, acid attacks and child marriage. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 02:24 AM
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That is exactly the opposite of what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:01 AM
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I don’t think that the “main points of contemporary feminism” are really that crazy, but then again I have no idea what that means to you personally. Anyways no I don’t have a brother, but I do have a (divorced) dad, male friends, and other male relatives. I’m sympathetic to the issues they face as men, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to throw all women everywhere under the bus even if (and that’s a big IF) doing so would benefit them. I maintain the label of feminist because of the historical…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 01:18 AM
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Sounds good to me. It might render our society and culture almost unrecognizable, but I’m down for an end to sexual exploitation and manipulation and I’m sure lots of men and women would agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:54 PM
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Obviously this is a fake and impossible scenario, but in a world where rape could be eliminated, wouldn’t any at all be too much? How much would be an acceptable level? Who are the acceptable victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:49 PM
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Why are you assuming that women's decision to have sex has anything to do with a value judgement of the man in question
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 04:31 PM
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I don't necessarily agree with the content nor the tone of this post, but I do find it funny how everyone is losing their fucking minds over it when its basic male equivalent (relationships are a net loss for men! bitches should be grateful that we even give them the time of day!) appears on here like, every two weeks and no one bats an eyelash.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 04:28 PM
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As much as I like coming on here to systematize with the lads, irl I'm like the opposite of a "man's man." I like women, I like feminine communication styles and feminine interests. I usually get along better with other women than with men, although I do love my few male friends just as much as the female ones. I like having a strong core group of girlfriends who I can depend on, regardless of the state of the rest of my social life. I know that catty girl-drama does exist, and I hear about it o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 09:45 AM
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It is online. The women aren't talking to him in real life- The visceral "turn off" effect of weirdness and poor social skills is mitigated online the same way the visceral "turn on" effect of good game is. Also, some people have ridiculously low standards. And a few crazy bitches purposely seek out men who are equally crazy or who are easy to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 01:53 AM
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No one’s saying that looks don’t matter to women, we’re saying that there are more factors involved. A Chaddy looking guy can act like a socially inept freak and become unfuckable. An unremarkable looking guy can have the right “vibe” and get laid like tile. Looks help, but they’re only part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 01:00 AM
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When I say "Love is complex and multidimensional," I'm not talking about the "love" that you feel for a hot babe you've known for a week (or the female equivalent thereof). I'm talking about the stuff that keeps married couples together for decades. I agree that men and women experience long term commitment differently, but I don't think you'll meet many men who think that shit is simple unless they are completely deluding themselves. But maybe that's not what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:58 AM
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Okay then: Men's love is more likely to be shallow. Happy? There's still no reason to uphold one gender's "love" as the ideal over the other. Love is complex and multidimensional, and many people maintain it for many years despite physical and emotional hardship. Others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:34 AM
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Sure, but what is the point of holding up male love as the ideal and denigrating female love when they both have equal potential to be shallow and dehumanizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 10:56 PM
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Is it because female sexuality is inherently valuable in ways that male sexuality is not, and being mistaken for a prostitute is a sign that you give your sexuality away for low cost (something men don't have to worry about or be offended by)? Y’all really do overthink everything. No, it’s because prostitutes (at least of the “streetwalker” variety) are seen as dirty, trashy, desperate, and dirt poor. No one wants their appearance to reflect those negative qualities. If you can’t see why someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 10:53 PM
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Women do not love men the way men love women How exactly is loving women exclusively for their physical beauty and seeing them as worthless when they lose that (as they inevitably will) better or nobler than women loving men for their personality/accomplishments/providorship etc etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 04:50 PM
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Nah man you’re not a idiot, not making a move was probably the best move in that situation. You didn’t know what was going through her head so you decided not to risk scaring her off- that seems prudent. You seem new at this, so take it easy, play the long game. The fact that she wants to hang out again is a great sign. You can worry about escalation and such when you’re more than one date in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:56 PM
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You’re about as likely to come across casual sex that good as you are to find convienence store pizza that good lol. In fact you’re about as likely to come across casual sex that good as you are to find a pizza that will itself throw you onto the bed and pound you into the Stone Age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:37 AM
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Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 02:25 PM
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Edited. Man, that’s a first!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 07:13 AM
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Women occasionally calling other women sluts and bitches does not mean women are more misogynistic than men in aggregate. You know who calls women names way more often than women? Men. Who usually perpetrates violence and abuse against women? Men. Who starts clubs dedicated to shitting on women? Men. This "women are the real misogynists" trope is so transparent that I can't believe it gets trotted out here as often as it does. It's clearly a deflection tactic for men who don't want to take respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 02:52 AM
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Just saying false doesn’t make it so. You don’t have to believe that the sun will set tomorrow for that to still be true. But enjoy blaming society for your own shortcomings I’m sure it will get you far in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:17 PM
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Approximately zero men in the west have a quality of life comparable to that of a child bride in a third world country. Nor are men (homeless/undocumented/minority status aside) second class citizens. You would have to be absolutely delusional to believe these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:24 AM
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Kumail Nanjiani maybe? Never seen his standup but he was great in The Big Sick
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:56 PM
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Hahaha holy shit dude. The victim complex of some of you people, I swear...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 09:14 AM
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Some awkward guys get lucky. Others not so much. There are more awkward men out there than awkward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 04:23 AM
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Yeah she's obviously a rp troll lmao. Like, a pretty good one, but c'mon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 04:20 AM
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Dating even awkward-er guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 04:07 AM
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Yeah, it definitely does lower her RMV. Guys tend to really want someone with equal or better social skills than them for relationships. It’s almost so ingrained that people dont consider it a factor, but it’s a huge one. Luckily social skills can be learned, even though it’s hard. You can be a charming nerd... if u believe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 11:27 PM
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That is not a 6.5 fam that is a professional model or actress
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 11:24 PM
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If it was a joke then it wasn't criticism, was it? What I'm saying is, it's not socially acceptable to insult anyone in public. If you're hearing someone yell "slut!" or "virgin!" in a bar, it's probably a joke. The actual mean spirited criticism happens behind closed doors. Would you ever refer to a woman calling a man a virgin as misandry? Uh, yeah. Casual misogyny, casual misandry, whatever. Neither is seen as a big deal unless it's malicious. An example is a man hitting a woman you can expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:16 PM
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I have in the past (ie as a teenager) but nowadays I'm of the opinion that if a man isn't attracted enough to make the first move, he's probably not attracted enough to stick around for more than a quick bang, if that. Best to just give iois and let the mens come to you. edit: That's not to say though that I don't go out of my way to make myself available to guys I like. Things just tend to go better, ime, when they think they're doing the chasing. If you really have to pursue a guy, he's probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 05:53 PM
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Well, he's much better looking than most IT guys. But his particular brand of "unconformity" is more cuddly hipster than badass rebel. Like sure, he probably smokes weed, and maybe he's a really good painter, but he's not exactly dangerous. He kind of hits that interesting looking but non-threatening sweet spot. How about this guy. He's edgy. He's frowning and touching a motorcycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 07:58 AM
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"stfu slut" Dude I have literally heard a guy yell this in a bar before lmao. Maybe it was a joke or a jab but either way, no anti-sexism police helicopters descended on him. Casual misogyny is often treated as funny bro banter unless it gets into truly violent territory. Where are you drawing this line of social acceptability? Is something only socially acceptable if not a single feminist legbeard can find anything objectionable about it? If so, that's dumb and you should grow a spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 07:46 AM
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She might enjoy your company, as a customer. If she wanted more than that she would say so. The fact is, people with that kind of natural charisma make connections easily. You are probably not the only customer who she enjoys the company of. And if you are as strange and socially tone deaf as you come across on here, then you are not going to be a good objective judge of the situation. If you like spending time with this woman, do it within the appropriate bounds laid out before you. Use it as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 07:37 AM
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Ahh I see. In that case guy 1 might be a bad example to use. Everyone seems to like him because he looks friendlier than the other two, not because he looks edgy or badass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 07:00 AM
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Female, college age Man 1 is hottest Thoughts: Guy #1 has pretty eyes, a friendly expression and cool tats. He looks like a guy who can have a good time. The other two look like they want to fight. Too serious, not attractive. Also, as others have said, these three guys don't look that different besides their expressions and "costumes." What variables are you testing for here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:18 AM
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Relax dude, I don't know you or what you're like. Besides, I said roughly my age. I'm 21, so you're a bit out of my age range, but I wouldn't be offended. When it gets weird is when the person is like, a kid or a grandpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 04:19 AM
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If it's someone I know and otherwise like, I feel awkward. I know how badly rejection can hurt, and I hate hurting people, but I know it's better to be honest than to give bullshit excuses :/ Still sucks though. For strangers, I might feel flattered, annoyed, or threatened, depending on the circumstances. If they're polite, roughly my age, and graciously take no for an answer, I don't mind at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:49 AM
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I guarantee that any overt attempts you make to be her friend outside of a professional setting will be unwelcome. Just see her as you normally would and enjoy that. You can let her know how much you like talking to her, but only once. Don't hammer away at it. At the very least I'm sure she appreciates the business, and you get to enjoy her company in a non-intrusive professional environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 09:47 PM
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Insulting people for no reason to their face is different than criticizing or judging them behind closed doors. The former is never going to be socially acceptable, for women or men. The latter happens mostly between like minded people. Besides, LewisCross didn't say that it's socially unacceptable to criticize random strange women to their face, he said Women are never ever to be criticized or judged for anything they do, ever. Which is blatantly false. People criticize and judge women all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 07:48 PM
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It’s more like a poor guy vs a rich/mc guy who had a bunch of money stolen. The rich guy was actively wronged, the poor guy didnt have the money to begin with. Add to that the fact that incels bitch and moan all the time, and, well...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 07:22 PM
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Not in today's society? Where do you think TRP, MGTOW, and Incel boards came from, medieval Turkey? Seriously though, I find it hard to believe that you're so oblivious that you can't think of a few examples yourself. If a woman sleeps around, she's trashy, worthless, a slut. If she sleeps with no one, she's frigid, asexual, a cocktease. If a woman does feminine things, she's dumb, vapid, and frivolous. If she does masculine things, she's a ball buster, an attention whore, or trying to take over…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 12:35 AM
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I mean, sure. It happens all the time. The guy might get called "shallow" or whatever if he makes it publicly known that the woman's looks are his reason for leaving, but it's still his prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 09:24 PM
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Dude, women get criticized for innocuous shit 10000000 times a day all over the world in every ethnic social and economic class on the internet and off. Don't play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 09:23 PM
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There is plenty of context available. There are multiple sources, studies, and analyses available to make sense of those stats. You can look at those sources and base your opinion on facts, or you can cling to your pre-conceived notions because they feel right. The choice is yours. Just don't expect anyone to take you or your opinions seriously when you consistently choose the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 06:46 AM
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No need to “just think” lol. The stats are readily available
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 03:26 AM
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Fam I'm having enough trouble finding actual scholarly articles that even use words like "dominance" or "submission," let alone ones that are concerned with its degree of biological-ness. Give it an hour, I have actual paid work to do as well lmao. Where are my links to the supposed scientific consensus that female fuck-preferences are encoded into our mitochondria or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 06:26 PM
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No, I meant what I said. The wording "female submissiveness is a factor of biology" means essentially the same thing as "Female submissiveness is of biological origin." Which implies that female submissiveness has no other explanations or components, or at the very least neglects to mention that possibility. I don't mean to be a dick, but is English not your first language? "Female submissiveness is a factor of biological origin” Is kind of a nonsensical sentence. For female significance to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 05:59 PM
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female submissiveness is a factor of biology “Female submissiveness is of biological origin.” biology is a factor in female submissiveness. “Female submissiveness has several factors, and biology is one of them.” The consensus among evo biologists, psychologists and sexologists agree it’s a factor. Can you link me a few who don’t? Again, I don’t think it’s as much of a consensus as you think. I’d also like to know what you/they think is the reason or mechanism for the behavior: Just saying “biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 05:05 PM
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You said "female submissiveness is a factor of biology," not "biology is a factor in female submissiveness." Those two sentences mean different things. And if the latter is your claim, then I don't disagree, but plenty of ev. biologists, psychologists, sexologists, and anthropologists still do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 01:53 AM
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I do know that, but I assumed you meant flamboyantly homosexual ACTING, not actually gay. Why would a gay man want or need to inspire lust in women? Regardless, my answer is still the same: Flamboyant and “gay acting” is not the same as submissive and sexually timid. Ime, straight/bi men can act very effeminate and still be attractive as long as they have good social skills and are not afraid to be forward and pursue women. SUBMISSIVENESS is another matter: If a straight guy is super submissive,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:37 AM
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It’s not even “most” dude it’s like... A few. It’s pure confirmation bias on your part to see that few and make sweeping conclusions based on them. Are you incapable of discussing anything without being condescending as hell? It doesn’t strengthen your argument, it makes it seem like you’re not confident enough in your ideas to debate them on their own merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:20 AM
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Your title has nothing to do with the body of your post. Since when is being flamboyant the same as being sexually timid? You think David Bowie was struggling to inspire lust in his partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:28 PM
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“Most biologists and psychologists” do not consider that lmao. Where did you get the idea that biologists spend any time at all studying female submissiveness? Perhaps you’re thinking of sexologists. And while some of them might consider submissiveness in women to be an evolutionary instinct of some kind, it’s certainly not a settled debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:26 PM
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Prostitutes, definitely. That’s a person being payed for a service, a doll is a weird, corpse like... thing. I am unsettled by the thought of having sex with someone who’s into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:14 PM
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Actually i didn't read your links or most of what you wrote up there because your commentary is unnecessary and annoying. Yes there is a time limit on the validity of the discussion because there is a time limit on me caring enough to engage. make a new thread if you're so eager to fight, im sure someone else would be happy to take up that task
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 02:42 AM
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Ok, and yet none of those accusations were against a random colleague who was doing the woman a favor, now were they? Also, this thread is a month old. What are you doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 01:44 AM
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It is played for laughs a lot in the media, isn't it? In real life though, I think most people would call the police and/or sue. It's not socially acceptable anywhere except commercials, to my knowlege.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 07:59 PM
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None of those differences are millimetric my dude. But yes it is definitely bullshit that perfect facial bones are the only thing that determines wether you're hot or not, especially for men. Either of the guys in those "before" pics could be hot, provided they were fit, happy, healthy, and masculine. They might not make careers as male models, but who cares? Very few people can do that. The incel-osphere preoccupation with looks is, in the end, the real "cope." There are a million things that e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:02 AM
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Haha I actually know what you mean, not that I’ve said such a thing myself. Usually means that a guy is ruggedly masculine in a kind of classic, Clint Eastwood-y Harrison Ford-y way. Strong, steady, competent, dependable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:02 AM
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It doesn’t really matter, PIV is enjoyable even if you can’t come from it alone. Just ask, if you’re not sure that what you’re doing feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:10 PM
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Well, yeah, as long as they’re attractive or go for their looks matches. Most people pair up with people with similar beliefs to them, but beliefs don’t automatically make you attractive. I sure as hell wouldn’t date an antifeminist, but I also wouldn’t date a greasy turd just because he throws out some feminist buzzwords.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:02 PM
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I just mean what you were talking about in the op. as she starts to get turned on (blush and moan and get vocal) then it turns me on. It's the same for women, but with masculine signs of arousal. And for monkeys, snakes, cockatiels, etc. The idea that people are attracted by their mate's desire isn't exactly new.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 04:12 PM
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I mean, the stuff you listed that men are attracted to isn't as simple as you say. Once you get past axiomatic statements like "men are attracted to what men are attracted to" you have to question who exactly you're talking about and how true those statements are for all the people you're trying to describe. Those things turn you on, and probably a good chunk of straight men, but what about gay men? Foot fetishists? Sensitive new agey guys? Same thing for women. I could just as easily say "For w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:25 AM
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Are “most” people doing this? Or are most women having kids with their beta husbands and a visible minority are having out of wedlock kids with trashy men? I think, in your heart, you know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 11:03 PM
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Don’t know if I’m all that “hot” but I did start getting asked out by random adult men starting in middle school. Mostly it just made me super uncomfortable so I purposely cultivated an RBF and unapproachable aura. Made my life a lot easier when I moved to NYC, but now it’s so ingrained that I have difficulty giving IOIs even in settings where I’m trying to meet people 😓
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 11:02 PM
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I think that hardly anyone is 100% heterosexual. It’s just more acceptable for women to admit that about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 10:52 PM
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All the """red pilled""" men getting butthurt in this thread should at least realize that this is exactly as true as "female sexuality is manipulative hypergamous and destructive." If you accept that, you should be able to accept this no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 04:05 PM
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I’m not moving the goalposts, that’s exactly what I said originally. You just ignored the rest of the sentence. Female circumcision is almost always traumatic, male circumcision just isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 11:58 PM
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That doesn't prove that male circumcision is amost always traumatic. Most cut guys are just fine. It's them you have to sell your cause to, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:03 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong person? Edit: Oh you mean guys who don't love super duper clingy girls. Yeah no that's normal people. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:26 PM
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Edit: Original comment was too mean. What I meant was: Dude.. Pop a Xan
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:38 AM
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Maybe I should've been more clear: I'm not arguing for the legality of circumcision. I think it's unnecessary, and a violation of the baby's bodily integrity. But it's so culturally entrenched that no one in the US cares enough to try to change it. A lot of intactivists make the argument that people are trying to stop female circumcision, so we should do the same for male. I'm just saying that they are not analogous as cultural practices. Female circumcision is almost always traumatic, male circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 12:56 AM
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Hey, that's valid. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the CMV thread, interesting discussion over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 12:39 AM
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Maybe I'm not reading far enough down, but I don't see a single person saying that in the thread. A lot of people's arguments involve bodily autonomy in some way, but no one is saying that women only get abortions because of it. Especially since that's a completely nonsensical statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 12:38 AM
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No, he isn't. Certainly not right away. He may be made to pay a fine. That aside, if you break the law, yes you may face legal consequences that include imprisonment. If you're against all imprisonment on the grounds of bodily autonomy, that's a whole different argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 12:25 AM
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Please provide even one example of a feminist saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 12:22 AM
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You see that all the time? Really? Yes, abortion is about getting out of pregnancy, and by extension parenthood (Although one could also opt out of that via adoption). No one gets an abortion for shits and giggles. But women don't get abortions because of bodily autonomy. The argument is that a right to bodily autonomy protects those women who do get them from legal repercussions. Biology sucks for you Actually, biology doesn't suck for you in this case: You can't be forced to carry a pregnancy.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 12:21 AM
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Not in the places where it’s practiced culturally. Many anti fgm activists in Africa actually encourage practicing groups to switch to less destructive, symbolic forms of female circumcision, like nicking the clitoral hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 09:10 PM
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I don’t think that all women are “dishonest,” certainly not well meaning women. I think it’s more that women are biased due to their own individual tastes and experiences and have a difficult time envisioning what would be most helpful to the other person versus what they like, or think they like. I certainly don’t go to men for my dating advice, so I’m not sure why a man would go to women for his dating advice, unless that woman is his older sister or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 09:03 PM
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This isn’t common though. Almost all fgm involves at least removal of the clit. I’m sure if 99% of male circumcision involved chopping off the head of the penis there would be much more outrage about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 04:42 AM
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:/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:53 AM
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Each of the Egyptian "kingdoms" (Old, Middle, New) ended in a period of turmoil which lasted for at least 100 years before unity and prosperity was restored. Not really the fault of "feminization" so much as corruption, war, political infighting and unsustainable economic practices. I think this was the case for most ancient civilizational declines though. Greece was never anything but heavily patriarchal and it still came and went. Rome, which most people point to as an example of this, had muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 06:02 AM
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Ancient Egypt. Like, a whole bunch of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:29 AM
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Re: Evolutionary reasons. Long-tailed macaques aren’t the only primates in the world, nor the most closely related to humans. Without even touching on bonobos, look at chimpanzees: Chimps only mate guard for the duration of a female’s fertile period. A given female chimp may have any number of different partners over the course of her life. Chimps don’t have any regard for paternity. Also, male chimps prioritize sexual access to fertile females that have had at least one successful pregnancy, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 07:17 PM
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Sure sure supply and demand etc but That vaginas don't get looser with many different partners They don’t. Childbirth is pretty much the only thing that will permanently change the structure of the vagina. And now you know 🌈
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:46 AM
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Wasn't "negging" originally more like a backhanded compliment or veiled insult to get a girl to try to win back your approval? Re-characterizing it as "playful banter" just seems like another attempt to sanitize RP/PUA tactics to make them palatable to non-psychopaths normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:35 AM
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It's just a simple, "Man I wish I had that shit going on." Yeah, pretty much. Well adjusted people don't go around trying to hurt their friends because they have something they want. You either try to learn from them (if its something controllable) or you just move on. I don't think this is even "unspoken," I think it gets talked about on a person-person basis plenty. It's just a super minor issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 11:29 PM
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You don't. You just need to be a semi-functional human being, and somewhat good looking yourself. Chances are, you are overestimating your powers in both those areas. Either way, being more present and less anxious will help you in many ways, attracting women is just one of them. I say that as someone who is basically a living ball of anxiety 90% of the time. It repels people, because it stresses them out to be around you, and because anxious people tend to hide what makes them truly attractive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 10:17 PM
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I wish I could tell you lol, my "energy" is something I could stand to improve as well. I think it's the sum of many small and intangible factors: Your health (mental and physical), your confidence, your sense of self, your sense of passion and direction, comfort with your sexuality, eye contact skills, sense of style, and more. As you improve each of these things, your "energy" (/vibe/aura/etc) will improve overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 09:52 PM
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Idk dude, I've not read that particular quote. Sounds like something from when he was older and consequently more conservative. As far as I know Tesla never recanted on supporting women's rights, despite his occasional clucking about the state of modern women. Again, it's not like he had any skin in that game. Nietzsche otoh was never too big on women's rights. He definitely reeks of "disenchanted niceguy," and spent plenty of time talking about women and society. Being a philosopher, talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 09:22 PM
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No, lots of young women like boyish men. The (female) demographics on here skew older is all. It's probably more your "energy" and social skills that are causing you to not live up to your potential game-wise, not your baby face.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 09:08 PM
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Tesla was basically agnostic, and was pretty down on organized religion most of time. The biography that I read a while back identified him as a humanist, and I think that most of what he actually stated about his personal beliefs would support that. I just want to reemphasize, he was an explicit supporter of women's rights, and thought it was a good thing for women to eventually run society. He believed in eugenics to a similar extent that most people did at the time, but was far from a Nazi. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 01:24 AM
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Jordan Peterson is a conservative dude, I'm not saying he's bp. Just that he also says a lot of stuff that RP would not like at all, if they were actually paying attention and weren't so desperate to find someone with an ounce of credibility who kinda-sorta validates their beliefs. As for your characterization of Tesla... Talk about reaching. A nice guy turned RP? What? The guy had no interest in women. He may have payed lip service to having wanted to marry, but it's not like he never had the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 12:36 AM
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Idk much about Jung, but Tesla was humanist, asexual supporter of women's rights. You literally couldn't find a less RP scientist if you tried. And even Jordan Peterson isn't half as RP as most RP guys would like to believe. Sometimes I wonder if RPers have actually listened to or read anything he's put out, or just clickbait headlines about him that happen to align with their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 12:07 AM
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What the who now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 11:56 PM
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Believe what you want, regardless of what they look like I have no love for the jerks, psychos, and buffoons of the dating world. You can keep them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 12:01 PM
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And yet, most of the world's great creative and scientific minds are not red pillers. Shock surprise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:05 AM
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A girlfriend: Female friends, basic hygiene, self esteem, a personality Casual sex: Ability to go to parties, ability to flirt, basic hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:48 PM
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The teacher’s experiment isn’t a “study.” It’s just one guy fucking around with some high school kids. Sample size of 21, no control, no standardization or regulation, clear bias in the “researcher.” I think making any sweeping conclusions based on it is a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 01:39 AM
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Women desire sex, yes. The desire for sex with a long term partner can dwindle or cycle out over time, yes. This doesn’t necessarily mean that women desire novelty above all else. To my mind, it’s a good sexual rapport that is most valuable to women, followed by novelty and excitement. A good sexual rapport can exist in a short term partner... But if you find someone you really click with, why not stay with them? You can still have novelty and excitement in an ltr. Most women don’t cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 06:47 PM
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I think this happens more to men than to women tbh. For me at least, the percieved quality of sex has a lot more to do with my feelings for the guy than his objective attractiveness. I’ve had a serious boyfriend, a less serious boyfriend, a friend with benefits, and a sleazy one night stand... And the only one of those partners that I ever think about unprompted is the serious boyfriend. I have no reason to believe that when I get into another serious relationship, the sex won’t be just as good …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 12:19 AM
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Hey I think this needs to be longer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 05:52 AM
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1) I am not "attacking" anyone. The only women that I know or know of, irl, who are dating significantly older men, are ugly or nuts. That is my experience, as a young woman who interacts with lots of other young women. 2) I am 21 lol. I'm not bitter about older men desiring people my age (or people my age desiring older men,) I'm either mildly put off by it (pure "ick" factor, if there's no unhealthy power dynamic) or concerned/disgusted by it (if the man's behavior is predatory.) Obviously the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 07:23 PM
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Fair enough. 👈🤨👈 👉😳👉
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 05:39 PM
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I am 100% generalizing- I realize that a few women genuinely prefer older men (Lana Del Rey?) BUT 1) There's no guarantee that this girl doesn't fall under "crazies and uggos." 2) There is a big difference between a 16 yo and a 21 yo girl dating adult men. Generally, I think it's kosher as long as the girl has a measure of independence and autonomy. College students might have this, high school students definitely don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 05:26 PM
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First, yes, rape victims are victims. Male or female. Second, you are arguing with other people who are not me. I don't necessarily think a man who gets fucked over in a divorce is at fault for "choosing poorly" either. He may or may not be at fault in other ways, but no one can predict the future. People change and love can blind you to a lot of red flags. I also specifically stated that I don't think women have superpowers. Intuition can tell you a lot, but not everything. People can hide all …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 05:16 PM
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I get that, but I’m saying it’s not necessarily her fault for picking a shitty boyfriend either, unless he was wearing a “future rapist” t-shirt when they met. You can’t always know when someone is going to betray your trust like that. Women arent precogs, and a lot of very bad people give off very few red flags until it’s too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 08:11 AM
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If you think sex doesnt devalue women, then encourage your fellow men to act like it. Encourage them to treat sex as a mutually enjoyable activity and not a conquest. Encourage them to wife up sluts. Encourage them not to call women who put out quickly nasty names. Join feminists in the anti slut shaming rhetoric. All these things are within your reach, if the way women handle sex bothers you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 08:07 AM
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When someone gets raped, it is the fault of the perpetrator, period. Women are not mind readers any more than men are. They can’t always know when a person they’ve put their trust in is going to violently betray that trust. To expect this is to expect supernatural powers of ordinary humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 08:02 AM
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Ah. Especially him then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 07:58 AM
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Your mum
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 04:37 AM
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To what are you referring?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 04:29 AM
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you picked an asshole shitbag of poor character. Jesus dude. "Even when it's a man's fault, it's a woman's fault." Do you apply the same logic to divorce "rape?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 02:00 AM
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I think it's becoming such. I know that in my circles it's considered gauche. Of course, I would define "keeping orbiters" as deliberately stringing someone along for favors when you know they have feelings for you, which I think is frowned upon in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 01:47 AM
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more often than not endup with one in bed Maybe wherever you're from, but in the US teenagers "more often than not" date their age mates. I have never encountered this fabled 45 year old who is so hot that he has to fend off college freshmen with a bat. Girls whoring themselves out for cash and prizes are a completely different phenomenon. They're doing it for the money, not the man. It's just informal prostitution, which is nothing new. You said yourself she had no attraction to the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 09:40 PM
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Independence and maturity are important. Exactly! There is a world of difference between a college grad with a job and a measure of independence and someone who hasn't even been to prom yet. It's a matter of autonomy and life experience, not necessarily age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 09:30 PM
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Age gaps are fine. This theoretical guy can go nuts when this theoretical girl is 27 and he’s 47. But I don’t care how charming he is, a 37 year old should not be chasing someone who is barely out of high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 08:54 PM
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I am 21 years old. I know that anything after 16 is post wall, but I'm definitely not bitter about my inability to attract men. It bothers me to see middle aged men pursue teenage girls because I can empathize with the girls. Being creeped on by older men as a teen is not fun. It's not flattering. When I was 16, or even 18, I didn't look at a 35 yo hitting on me and think "that man is at peak smv and so am I so we should bone," I thought "This decrepit motherfucker better step off before I call …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 05:46 PM
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Trolling and having a weak argument are not the same thing. If being dumb was a bannable offense there would be no one left in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 04:41 AM
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Dude if making a bad argument was a bannable offense there would be three people left in this sub. Trolling is an intentional, malicious act.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 04:39 AM
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Yep. Some hardcore RP and RP adjacent people are exactly as weird irl as their internet presence would suggest. At least your guy nailed the first bit, that's better than some...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 09:42 PM
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Manospherians can’t stand the idea of women having relationships with men who don’t hate them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 06:49 AM
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That is not true and if you actually knew anything about modern genetics other than what is linked to to via r/incels you would know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:02 PM
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Feminism is not a sexual strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 03:57 PM
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If a man can’t keep from being sexually violent without prior discussion, perhaps he needs a chaperone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:07 AM
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I mean, it’s pretty simple. RPW was created by men, to encourage women to follow the male imperative. Some women want to follow the male imperative and have taken up the mantle of RPW because it benefits them, but TRP is not about “the truth,” it’s about male interests. There is other, better dating advice out there for women that actually takes an objective look at how they can get the most out of their relationships, but RPW is not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 12:17 AM
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No one ITT is talking about Aziz, we're talking about a situation where a guy starts choking and slapping a girl out of the blue while they're hooking up, like the one from that TRP field report. The girl in the field report ended up being fine with it, but I believe the guy got very lucky. Not all women are going to be into that shit, and pulling it out with no warning and not stopping when she's disassociating/frozen/crying is a great way to get slapped with a sexual assault charge- Justifiabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 03:38 PM
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I mean see an escort dude. You can pay to spend the night with a super hot woman who knows all the right moves. Bertha, depending on how ugly she is, might be able to get Bart to sleep with her, but Bart has better options if he saves up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:43 PM
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OP specifically makes the point that love is the sum of your actions towards a person. “Love” when defined as a fleeting internal feeling is utterly meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:37 PM
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So can Big Bart, if he’s willing to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:31 AM
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Big Bertha is the female equivalent of a neckbeard incel tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 05:30 PM
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Pretty often, actually. Not that it's "water under the bridge," but that it's not worth the pain of a trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 10:39 AM
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The theoretical accusation takes place in a scenario where the man raped the woman. That is a crime. If she believes he will do it again, she has a very good reason to report rather than just moving on with her life. It's no more "feels based" than anyone's decision to report any crime against their specific person. What crime have women in general perpetrated against you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 10:32 AM
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If a woman consents to regular sex, she is not necessarily consenting to being violently attacked during the act. What is so hard to understand about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 10:25 AM
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Ah my mistake. 99.99% of women then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 11:26 PM
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No dude STDs don’t come out of nowhere lmao. You either have to be cheating or be a very careless IV drug user. Or have had it before the relationship began. But fine, clearly you’re coming at this from a very different perspective than I am. In my circles we don’t consider cheating to be some kind of inevitability, we consider it to be a major failure of character. So by accusing your partner of cheating (without evidence,) you are saying that you don’t trust them and think very poorly of them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 10:58 PM
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Maybe a better analogy would be a woman asking her husband to get regular std checks. Her health and fertility might be at stake, but still asking is an accusation of cheating. If he’s not cheating, it’s extremely rude and he has every right to be insulted and hurt by her lack of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:35 PM
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I don’t want my breast squeezed in the middle of a bar by a man I just met other women may or welcome it even Mmm no pretty much 100% of women are not okay with being groped by randos. Good thing you’re not writing this guide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:26 PM
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I’m not talking about stalking, I’m talking about asking to look through your partner’s texts. They are both demonstrative of a lack of trust, which is paranoid if there’s no reason behind it. Asking for a paternity test is a direct accusation of cheating. That’s just a fact, there’s no way around it. If you didnt think it’s possible that she cheated, you wouldn’t be asking. If it’s worth it to you, fine, go ahead and do it. But it’s hypocritical to think that THAT behavior is fine and sane but …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:22 PM
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It has plenty to do with that. Just because the girl in that scenario was fine with it in the end doesn’t mean that some other girl in some other scenario might be extremely NOT fine with it. Initiating extremely rough sex with no warning or prior discussion could easily verge into sexual assault or rape. The point is that the man has no control over the woman’s reaction, but he SHOULD have control over his own actions. He can choose NOT to pull a risky and morally iffy move like that on the off…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:16 PM
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ITT: OP makes a few decent points by accident, but is not smart enough to critically engage with the questions they raise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:02 PM
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Did you not read the post that this scenario is based on? Because that's exactly what it describes. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7w778m/comfort_game_in_the_metoo_era/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 05:34 PM
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Men cheat too. Doesn’t make going through his texts when he has done nothing to make you doubt him any less psycho. Society has nothing to do with it. We are not speaking, we are both posting on a debate forum. If you don’t want people to debate your ideas, consider not posting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 05:52 AM
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Yes, unless you have reason to believe she cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 05:32 AM
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Ask away then, and enjoy the damage to your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 05:09 AM
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Yeah, some of them. I know a couple of guys that are very successful with women that are absolutely lovely, because they have naturally great personalities and have not been embittered by failure. I also know guys who are successful with women who are total jackasses, because they have naturally shitty personalities and have been emboldened by success. Chadliness (good looks, natural charm) just amplifies what is already in the hearts of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 12:53 AM
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No one super famous, but a friend of a friend of mine models and is dating a very average looking dude who is also shorter than her. They are both still in college so he’s not rich either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 12:37 AM
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I don’t know you irl, but acting like an an angsty teenager online can’t be helping. And if you actually are a teenager, then chin up dude. Focus on your grades, join a sports team. It’s only uphill from here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 04:13 AM
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Normal, un-damaged women almost universally prefer normal, successful men over abusive monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:24 AM
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I can virtually guarantee that being an upstanding moral person is not what is holding you back in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:19 AM
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I'm sure of all the thousands, nay, millions of nudes being swapped every day via snapchat, mine were far from the most interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 11:44 AM
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I've never been in a situation where I've needed to have sex "as a favor," but I'm young and my longest relationship only lasted 3 years. I think if I was married for a while and the raw animal lust had started to fade, I would be fine with going through the motions sometimes to make my partner happy. I enjoy sex for its own sake, and don't have a lot of hang ups about it. Hell, even right now I sometimes "duty masturbate" just to make myself fall asleep faster lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 06:44 PM
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When I was in an ldr my boyfriend and I would do skype sex and sometimes send nudes via snapchat, but I don't think I would've been comfortable sending them using a less transitory medium. My ex is a kind and trustworthy guy, and I know he wouldn't have shared them, but the idea that the pics would be floating around out there is just too disconcerting. And if you're not in an ldr, what's the damn point? Your SO can see you naked any time they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 06:38 PM
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You have no way of knowing that my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 06:17 PM
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Why do assume that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 08:18 AM
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Well, then it might comfort you to know that plenty of women struggle with confidence and with internalizing their own desirability as well. And I believe that they, as well as their male counterparts, can work on that in ways that don't diminish the people they're trying to attract. A woman could follow that trp post as well. She could internalize the idea that she's better than every man she meets (in all areas except lifting heavy things.) She could treat men like they're only there for her e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 08:12 AM
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God, what a bunch of poorly written edgelordy foolishness. Having confidence and internalizing that you are the prize is good advice for either gender, but the way this is written is just blatant pandering to chumps that need to shit on women to feel good about themselves. And that's just no way to be. You've read briffault's law Twenty bucks says not a single person commenting on that post has actually read anything Robert Briffault has written beyond his two sentence, frequently misused "law."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 06:08 AM
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Statistically, no. But I'm sure for some people it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 01:46 AM
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If this is a person who he doesn't know outside of work, who is not interested in him romantically, who he has never wronged in any way, there is an almost 0% chance of him being accused of anything. Normal, sane people don't just screw over their colleagues (who are doing them a favor!) for shits and giggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 05:34 PM
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His victim was male. Have you been living under a rock?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 05:30 PM
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Lmao this entire thread. How do people this paranoid even leave the house in the morning? Yall are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:31 AM
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Timesup like metoo isn't about male victims Er. Spacey?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:28 AM
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That just doesn't make any sense dude. Why on earth would anyone, male or female, randomly accuse their work mentor of a crime? What would possibly motivate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:17 AM
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The idea that unattractive guys are automatically nicer or morally superior to attractive guys is pure nerd solipsism. It's an idea pedaled by socially stunted dweebs who see girls get cheated on or mistreated and think "If only girls would date ME, I would treat them right! Those stupid sluts are making their own beds" While they ignore the fact that the majority of relationships are perfectly non-abusive, and that the guys who do mistreat women aren't always attractive. I'm also not convinced …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 11:09 PM
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lol no it's a stupid name that's the butt of jokes even for non-pillospherians. like naming your kid Biff or Dick or Brenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 06:47 PM
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Preach. Why the hell kind of sex are all these people having???
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:06 AM
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What, you think straight men and boys don't get raped by other men? Sure being gay or in prison raises your risk, but lacking those things doesn't eliminate it. There are a lot of crazies and terrible people in the world. Men may be at a lower risk, but still the male equivalent of rape is not divorce, it's rape. Rape is a violent crime, both physically and psychologically. You have the threat of STDs and physical injury. If you decide to press charges, there's also the stress and financial loss…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:33 PM
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You act as if men don't experience rape. They do. It is physically and psychologically traumatic on a level that is not comparable to divorce, which while sometimes difficult and sad is also an often necessary legal proceeding. I know you feel the need to dismiss and trivialize the experiences of women any chance you get, but consider for a second that it's not just women's experiences you're poo-pooing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:22 PM
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Men absolutely do have control over all those things, except being dumped. Also, unless your ex wife stabs you on the way out the door, divorce does not violate your physical body, while rape does. You are comparing apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:48 PM
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5'7" isn't that short, first of all. Second, I think the best body type for men in general is muscular but with enough body fat that you don't look weirdly veiny. Being buff will always help you with the ladies, regardless of height. And being on the shorter side actually gives you an advantage. It's a lot easier to pack muscle onto a smaller frame, you don't have to work as hard as a taller guy to get the same results. Take a look at male olympic gymnasts for inspiration. They're all really sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:38 PM
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MEN shame men for dressing and grooming well dude, not women. Seriously, try it for a week. I guarantee that you'll get more attention from women irl as a dandy than as a slob, even if some weird women on PPD say that guys who wear deoderant are pussy ass homos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:24 PM
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I think Anarchkitty meant a little bit of concealer or "guyliner," not full face glam or goth weirdness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:14 PM
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That is certainly not all that women have to do to be attractive, unless they are very genetically gifted. However, most of the effort women put into their appearance is purposely subtle- The last thing they want is for guys to think they're trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:09 PM
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Well, sure, when you water down trp to the point where almost anything controversial about it is eliminated. I like men who are confident, healthy, and stylish. I like when men express sexual attraction towards me. I’m even guilty of chasing guys who “play hard to get,” much as all women’s dating advice warns against this. The fellow I am seeing right now is as bp as bp can get, but I think that he is inadvertently dreading me by being kinda shy and withdrawn when we’re not face to face. I know,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:31 PM
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https://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/69834/Le_Guin_-_Solitude.html Here you go! Apparently I had it hiding in my bookmarks the whole time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:10 AM
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I actually agree, although I think manipulation CAN be morally wrong if it is used to take advantage of people or bring them to harm. But it's the action taken with the intent to harm that is wrong, not the fact of the manipulation. There's a great story by Ursula LeGuin (RIP) that I read a while back about a society where any kind of manipulation between adults is taboo. This simple fact makes for a culture that seems totally alien and very lonely, almost monastic. I believe it's called "Solitu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:24 PM
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I would if I was older and established, but right now I'm 21 and still in school! I am in no way qualified to help raise a kid when I'm still a dependent myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:08 PM
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Aww T_T
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:03 PM
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Amazingly, different people say and think different things. Many feminists are not opposed to sex work, and I'd say that even less are opposed to masculine gay men, except maybe gay male feminists who dislike they way they are treated by "masc4masc" types. "Feminist theory" hardly has anything to do with gay men, except to say that gay men are just as capable of sexism as straight ones. Feminists, men and women, can critique misogyny and femme-phobia in the gay community without being anti-gay. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:30 AM
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I dunno, if Paul Giametti was 25-30 years old and had a good personality I wouldn't be opposed to dating him. Depends if we had chemistry or not. Not conventionally attractive doesn't necessarily equal "sexually unsatisfactory." Chris Hemsworth is hot, obviously, and seems like a very nice person from the interviews I've seen, but sister wifing just seems like a step too far. Gives me the heebie jeebies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:21 AM
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Okay, so you do mean feminists back when homophobia was the norm. I can't say I'm entirely surprised that a few radfems in the 60's and 70's hated gay men, since gay bashing was rampant everywhere at the time. But I think it's telling that the sources you linked don't contain even one example of feminist gay bashing from the past 10, 20 or even 30 years. Society, and attitudes towards gay men, have come a long way since the 70s. And plenty of people who identify as feminists have helped it get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:37 AM
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Sure, gay men might reject feminism for the same (non sex-related) reasons that any person might. That doesn't mean feminists are rejecting gay men, at least not due to their gayness. Milo Yiannopoulos might be hated by feminists, but he'd be hated just as much if he was straight, or even if he was a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 02:11 AM
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Not even gonna touch the rest of this weirdness but: there's a huge history of homomisandry in the feminist movement The feminist movement TODAY or 60 years ago when homophobia was the societal norm? Because as far as I can tell, 99.9% of feminists today are extremely gay friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 01:55 AM
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Dildos would be like sex bots if they had the size and appearance of an entire human man. I'm sure some women are freaked out by the idea of their male partner using a fleshlight or whatever, just like some men were freaked out by vibrators 20 years ago. But I think they and other "insertion" toys will become more normalized over time. I don't know if I can believe the same thing about sex bots/dolls though, unless they become both super advanced and super cheap. They're too cumbersome, expensiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 01:48 AM
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Hurry up then, we're waiting!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:04 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:56 AM
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I’m not saying they’re “just kidding,” I’m saying they’re expressing their real feelings in a deliberately over the top, inflammatory manner. As for the rest: a) it’s not that deep fam b) would you say the same about manospherians who shit talk women/feminists in a similarly inflammatory way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 08:36 PM
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Yeah, absolutely- The guy I’m seeing right now is bi. He prefers women, but he has dated men before. I think the idea of him sleeping with guys is hot if anything, but mostly his sexuality is a neutral trait in my mind, like eye color.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:11 PM
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It’s a troll sub. The whole point is to trash TRP in an over the top manner. Comments like that aren’t meant to be taken literally, and nobody is actually doing that stuff. They’re just talking shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:16 PM
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Women aren’t getting triggered by sex bots en masse. Most people don’t give a shit. And I’ve said before: If they ever come to exist, they’ll be a cool novelty service alongside traditional sex work. They’d be impractical for private ownership, but I can definitely see robo-prostitutes taking off. And the only people who this really disadvantages are human prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:12 PM
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Literally every time a woman on here complains about her dating life, someone says it’s because she’s aiming out of her leave and that all her problems would be solved by dating ugly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:19 AM
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You don’t get to feel joyful, inspired, or fulfilled either. These things make life worth living. You may also find that your social success improves as your mental health improves. Having close social bonds is very important to most prople’s well being, but it’s hard to form these bonds with someone who is an empty husk, which turns into a vicious cycle. You gotta break that cycle somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 05:57 AM
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I don't really get embarrassed, nervous, sad, or any of those other human emotions anymore, which means I do whatever I feel like whenever I feel like because outside of killing me there's not much anything anyone can do to me that I care about. That's like... Depressed Person 101 right there. I'm not saying this in a shamey, "what's wrong with you" kind of way, but you really might benefit from some counseling. There's no shame in it, and a good therapist can give you the tools you need to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:24 AM
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Francisco, absolutely. The other guy is cute but he's gorgeous!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:11 AM
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You have a weird idea of how human sexuality and dating dynamics work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:16 AM
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Children will inevitably be born into poverty and out of wedlock Condemning those children to destitution or death for the crime of being born is inhumane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:57 PM
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No attempt to de-incentivize a behavior will ever have a 100% success rate. Children will inevitably be born into poverty and out of wedlock, as long as we as a species have functioning reproductive organs, imperfect birth control, and the capacity to make stupid decisions and mistakes. Condemning those children to destitution or death for the crime of being born is simply inhumane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 10:07 AM
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A child is funded until it reaches the age of majority or until it's caretaker(s) situation improves, not for life. Also, a child can't mitigate his risk of being born into poverty, therefore there is no "moral hazard" to providing assistance to poor children. And even if there was, the alternative is so morally bankrupt as to be unacceptable in any society that cares about the well being of its citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:30 AM
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That is not an argument. It's a moral hazard to give any person any kind of help or support, but we do it anyways because difficult situations happen and we live in a civilized society. Again: Why do you think your adult, unemployed ass is more deserving of government funding than a child who can't help his situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:20 AM
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Taxpayers pay for all kinds of things that help people out when they're in need. The fact that, if you lose your job, you could get temporary unemployment benefits is one manifestation of that. And I am forced to pay taxes for that, even though I'm not unemployed. Why do you think the children of poor people deserve less?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:15 AM
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Women do not turn down men for being nice, they turn down men for being unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 10:31 AM
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cleanser + toner + moisturizer daily with regular masks to clean out pores That's what I like to do! A lot of the stuff I put on my face is not strictly necessary, but it feels and looks nice ¯_(ツ)_/¯ For anti-aging, sunscreen is the most important thing, and if you have acne there are plenty of great over the counter products. And a dermatologist would probably tell you to use a very gentle cleanser and to not over-exfoliate. (Source: Father is a derm) Vitamins and shit are good though, especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:10 AM
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Not actually true, it’s just that a lot of women slap on makeup every day to compensate for the effects of bad skin care and an unhealthy lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:42 AM
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No. People want to have sex with humans. At most they will be a fun side show in places where sex tourism is already big, like Vegas or Amsterdam.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 10:06 PM
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Sure, that can happen, but let's not pretend that men don't blaze past obvious red flags because of love and/or "tingles." (Should probably go without saying, but women do this as well.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 10:04 PM
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Damn there are actually people out there getting sloshed at 11am? That's dedication
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:55 PM
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If men's love was completely logical, they wouldn't end up with women who break their hearts and screw them over. Which they do, extremely frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:43 PM
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1) No. 2) You sound like a crazy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:40 PM
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This thread is claiming that men do not like this stuff, only sex. Which I think is false of course but it also doesn’t sound like “feminism-inflicted guilt.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 02:15 AM
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It’s a well known fact that only men can accomplish things of worth. In fact, if a woman so much as sets foot within 3 feet of an object or idea, it loses all value. Chancellorship of Germany? Worthless. World’s first novel? Who even reads anymore. CRISPR? Insignificant. All of human life? Dust on the wind. Especially yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 12:54 AM
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“Party” vs “non party” girls is an odd dichotomy imo. What makes a party girl? Going out more than once a week? More than 3 times a week? If I watch anime and go hiking, but also go to da club sometimes, am I a party girl? If I never drink, but I’m in a sorority, am I a party girl? If I get smashed on the reg but I’m a virgin with straight A’s, am I a party girl? Humans contain multitudes, maaaan
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 12:41 AM
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Pls fuck off god bless and amen
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 12:33 AM
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There is a distinct difference in ideology between liberal and radical feminists. They are often at odds. That’s like saying there is no reliable way to tell between incels and TRP, or black nationalists and the kkk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 12:25 AM
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No, learning about feminism from your mother will absolutely not ruin her life. She will make her own decisions regardless of your mother's influence, and she will find out about feminism one way or another. If you cut your mother out of your life, your daughter will likely find out why eventually, and when she finds out that the reason she had no relationship with her grandmother growing up is because her father was paranoid that she would be taught some very mild feminist values, she will push…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:18 PM
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No of course I don’t think women should get a pass for that kind of behavior. In fact it’s extra weird, since women usually are better at reading social cues and pick up that their advances are unwelcome right away. And ime, women who act like that often get shut down just as harshly as men. But to me it’s the “unwanted advances” part that is creepy, not the “younger women” part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 06:30 PM
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Im sorry for your loss
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:48 PM
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Wait, okay, so if you’re into her advances what are you even complaining about? Is she creeping you out or not? I would define creepy behavior, in this context, as repeated, socially tone deaf sexual advances towards someone who is clearly not interested. If you are flirting back or otherwise acting interested, you’ve kinda dug this hole for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:47 PM
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That is not a thing that happens. Hitting on people is not illegal. Do you have any examples of this occurring?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:33 PM
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Didn’t you say the unwanted attention was creeping you out? It’s fine to feel creeped out and tell them to knock it off, but sleeping with minors is a whole ‘nother can of illegal worms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:29 PM
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Ah, movies about black people. That kind of propaganda. eyeroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 06:07 AM
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What other recent movies do you think are "blatant propaganda?" Wonder Woman? It seems like many of the movies that you guys would have a problem with are the ones doing the best in the box office. I think the general down trend in ticket sales has less to do with left wing propaganda and more to do with how soulless and unoriginal the majority of recent blockbusters have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 04:09 AM
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Yeah, that makes sense. I just don't think it's a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:26 AM
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Not all TRP advice is wrong, but like many people have said, you can get the actual good advice from sources (like the ones you listed) that don't expect you to wholesale accept the ideologically motivated bigotry and blatant falsehoods that make TRP what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:21 AM
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So? We're talking about Star Wars. TLJ came out in December.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:15 AM
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Sure, Rey's plot line is a type of female power fantasy. I'm sure many women would like to be badass Space Buddhists who travel to unknown lands and hold hands with Adam Driver. But it doesn't deviate too far from the standard "hero's journey" formula. There's nothing specifically feminine about it. And female power fantasy or not, I see no reason why men can't enjoy Rey's story just as women enjoyed Luke's. The new trilogy is flawed but fun and imo well acted and refreshingly written. Although …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:14 AM
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TLJ is one of the highest grossing movies of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 11:27 PM
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shipping Finn and Poe just goes to show a common female sexual perversion/lack of understanding or care for beta males. Afaik Oscar Isaac and John Boyega were 100% on board with people shipping their characters. They have good on screen chemistry in TFA. It's not that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 11:23 PM
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Ahhh, that makes sense. I was starting to think that “III” was the symbol of some secret club that you can only join by being super annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:14 AM
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I’m reading a fun urban fantasy series ("Heartstrikers" by Rachel Aaron) that is definitely aimed at women, and the male lead/love interest is a pacifist nice guy who only fights with his words. His greatest strength is being so submissive and mild mannered that all the world-endingly badass characters in the series don’t see him as a threat. He’s very endearing though, or at least the female MC thinks so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:07 AM
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What, women in your circles are all terrified of their men? They should probably find better ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 06:50 AM
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Well, yeah. A lot of the stuff on TRP, including stuff posted by mods, vanguards, and ECs, is objectively dumb as shit. And you know at least one guy is out there taking it as gospel because it makes him feel powerful and good. But you could say the same thing about 95% of all internet philosophizing. Most people with genuinely ground breaking ideas don't post them on reddit, they publish books and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 05:27 AM
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No. It's never even crossed my mind that he would or could hurt me, and he never gets angry. Of course, he's twice my size so he could hurt me the way I could hurt my parakeet, but I would never stay with a man I didn't feel safe around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:44 PM
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Frankly I don't think that men know these chicks are going to be crazy before they date/marry them, they just know that they're hot and exciting. They appeal to all men, not just low status ones. Some people are just better judges of character than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:05 PM
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Sure, totally. I just don't think that behavior is any better or different than women dating bad boiz for the drama of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:01 PM
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Eh. I'll give you that it's not the norm, but it's not lack of choice that leads to guys dating these girls, it's that they are genuinely very attractive in looks and demeanor until the crazy hits. The guys on here with those stories aren't struggling incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:40 PM
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A healthy chunk of the men on here have super fucked up "crazy ex" stories. Not saying that the exs' behavior is their fault, but if picking these women over and over isn't selecting for "bad" traits, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:21 PM
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Sorry, who is it who's always being divorce raped by BPD bitches on here? Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:16 PM
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Well, it has been mine. But admittedly, most people don't have a lot going for them besides their looks, if they even have those. So it's important to cultivate attractive traits as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:58 PM
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"Should?" Who gives a shit about what men "should" do? If men CAN date women hotter than they are, power to 'em, but if they CAN'T, it's not some injustice foist upon them. Almost everyone dates within their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:15 PM
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Well, they're the thing that draws you to a person first. You don't have much else to go by when meeting a complete stranger! But it's not uncommon for a woman to meet a man who she doesn't find particularly handsome at first, who becomes attractive to her because of his other qualities. Then it's a positive feedback loop: Once she sees him as attractive in general, she perceives his looks more positively as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:09 PM
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Goddamn OP what planet are you living on? It's widely socially acceptable for men to pursue casual sex. No one is calling men used up cuntwhores for sleeping around, they're calling you players and alphas. There is a shit ton of advice out there by men for men on how to get casual sex. You ever heard of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:03 PM
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Haha, you're all good!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:16 AM
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I think it's definitely a Red point to say feminine women are good and masculine men are good. Of course this is true, but I was actually saying the opposite: That feminine men and masculine women can be good as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:01 AM
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Red: "Dread" is good and necessary in moderation People should take responsibility for their own romantic success and strive to improve wherever possible Most women like strong, competent, masculine men. If men want to attract more women, they must become more strong, competent, and masculine. Attraction is non-negotiable People (men and women) will naturally strive to find the most attractive partner they can. If they don't think you're the best they can do, they will take you for granted. Blue…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:46 AM
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How could you possibly know this? Have you ever been "most women?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:47 PM
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no u
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:50 PM
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2/10 troll harder
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:41 PM
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...How???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:44 AM
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I doubt Chris Pratt could complete a triathlon as fast as those dudes!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:23 AM
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Christ dude, you're such an oversensitive little bitch it's not even fun to tool with you. I know you're serious, you like to make yourself feel big by saying mean things on the internet. It's clearly your favorite thing to do. If some rando actually did break into your house and rape you with a horse dildo, I'm sure you'd change your tune very quickly, but hopefully that won't happen and you'll get to keep living your weird sad life unmolested, as will I. Edit in response to your edit: What the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:21 AM
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Who cares what the "ideal" male physique is lmao. All those guys are pretty sexy and can definitely pull. Their bodies are just built for speed and endurance rather than raw strength
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:08 AM
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And then everyone stood up and applauded
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:05 AM
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Hope all you want, you're not the one with a sick new bad dragon dildo and a bottle o' roofies lurking outside some twinky reddit misogynist's window ;)))))
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:27 AM
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Totally agree! Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a bottle of rohypnol and a horse dildo with your name on 'em. Remember, if you get turned off, it's your fault ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:20 AM
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Large framed "thicc" girls aren't at a disadvantage in any SMP as long as they're fit. There's a big difference between thick and fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:37 PM
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A father doesn't stop being a father when he gets divorced, dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:29 PM
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Asian Chad is Lee Seconding Angel for Mexican Chad Eurochad is... Lars?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:54 PM
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how'd you find that photo of me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:43 PM
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Serving my dad divorce papers tomorrow. "But I'm your dad!" he might say. "We aren't married!" I will just shake my head slowly. This is the final form of the female imperative. Reddit user adrixshadow has shown me the light.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:38 PM
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Lmao how does one divorce from their father??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:30 PM
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I'm just here waiting for the day that OncleJulian will escape from Chad's basement and return
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:20 PM
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Correlation, not causation my dude. And even if it is a case of causation, it doesn't contradict what I said, nor does it provide a strong enough reason for artificially raising kids religiously if you're not religious yourself. Just tell your kids that casual sex is risky and can cause problems. You don't need religion to do that. They might care, they might not, but that would be the case no matter what. And while you're at it, tell them not to marry young, not to marry someone older or younge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:12 PM
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oh i thought you were archwinger but suddenly less annoying. boo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:54 AM
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Sick :( Sill drinkin tho
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:42 AM
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Giant aspen grove or bust
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:39 AM
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Right, ok. So you're assuming these things are damaging for women because they conflict with your traditional sexual morality. But in order for your claim (that everyone should raise their daughters in a certain way to prevent these behaviors) to have merit, you would have to come up with some actual proof that these things are bad. Iirc, egalitarian marriages last longer than traditional ones on average, and a high partner count only impacts women negatively if they feel guilt and shame about i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:33 AM
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Again, what is it? Sleeping around? Egalitarian relationships? What is the thing that is so damaging that nonreligious parents need to impose bizarre religious rules on their daughters to prevent "it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 11:46 PM
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how damaging this is How damaging what is? fully grown women when confronted with evidence [...] generally refuse to acknowledge it. Could be because adults don't usually take kindly to other, unqualified adults telling them how to live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 11:43 PM
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Many girls who grow up nontraditionally and have nontraditional relationships do just fine for themselves. Teaching children to be good, conscientious people is more important than teaching little Sally that her vagina belongs only to the man she will marry. Why would you even care about your daughter being a paragon of Christian/Jewish/Muslim virtue if you're not devoutly Christian/Jewish/Muslim yourself? Why not just teach her to think critically about her personal decisions and make good, eth…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 11:19 PM
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I literally can't think of a single instance of a girl from my high school dating someone in their 30s. ONE of my friends had a 23 yo bf who she met through work, but that was it. Most teens date other teens. Most teens think men in their 30s are old and gross. And most grown men know better than to pursue girls who can't even vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:40 PM
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Sure, that's all fine and good, but you (general you) don't need to date someone barely out of training bras to have that. There's a whole world out there full of cool stuff that full grown adult people have never heard of. Even middle aged married couples can have a fun, exploratory dynamic if they keep an open mind and positive attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:17 AM
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I don't think it's crazy to say that young teenagers can be attractive and beautiful, but they're still not adults. Like you said, age of consent laws exist to protect vulnerable people who don't have the rights or resources of full adults from predators who might take advantage of them. Preying on young teens with developed secondary sex characteristics might not be "pedophilia" in the strictest sense, but it's still illegal for a reason, and I find people who bitch and moan about AoC laws VERY…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:00 AM
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I feel positively towards them, since I'm small and I like having people be attracted to me. If you've worried about looking like a pedo, don't be, it's pretty easy to tell a short adult woman from a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:51 AM
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Don't be a drama queen. Women aren't "disgusted" by the mere existence of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 01:48 AM
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Why would either of them "disgust" me lol. Have they been rolling in manure?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:17 PM
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I don't exactly care, but I'd be lying if I said I don't enjoy when strangers act jealous of either me or the boyf.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 07:13 AM
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Well for one thing, not very many women are beautiful enough to get the kind of treatment you describe. Maybe 1-2%. I'm certainly attractive, but not enough so to speak on this topic from personal experience. However I know one women like this well enough to possibly talk about her experience. We've known each other since we were young teens, and her (gay) older brother is one of my closest friends. She's short and slim, but has the most breathtakingly beautiful face I've ever seen. Half Danish …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 07:06 AM
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If having been a virgin bolsters her case then it's fair game. But whether she was a virgin or not, rape is wrong and dragging a near passed out woman back to your apartment and forcing yourself on her is wrong. But rape is a difficult crime to prove, so a civil suit is a way for her get SOME kind of compensation without bringing in felony charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:51 PM
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What a mess this guy is in over an allegation. If the allegation is true, he should be in a mess. What would you suggest the victim do, just shut up and pretend it didn't happen? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:34 PM
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Of course they're paranoid, they encourage men to push women's boundaries in a way that could easily cross into sexual assault if someone doesn't read the situation correctly. Guys who are confident that they're never going to accidentally rape anyone rarely seem to worry about false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:36 AM
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No, but I'm 5'3" I've only ever met one man who was (maybe?) shorter than me. He was my best friend's bf though, and she was several inches taller than both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:29 AM
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When's the last time a woman left a guy better than she found HIM ...Often? I think you might be taking that phrase too literally. People learn new things from their partners and make an effort not to hurt the people they date all the time. Imo, trying to leave people/places/things better than you found them is a good rule to live by in general, and requires only slightly more effort than the classic "don't be a dick."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 08:45 PM
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Not particularly! There was a good base to build off of though, he was already near fluent in English. I don't know how a relationship with a really big language gap would work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 08:34 PM
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Early 20s bluish purple woman. Just gonna free associate here... *Being REALLY into his appearance. *Being really into rap *Weird about sex/escalation. Either overly apologetic or awkwardly forward *Weird about sex pt.2: Getting freaked out when I want to do something even mildly kinky. I mean, come on. Live a little. *Talking about exes early on *Trying to get me to talk about MY exes early on *First date feels like an interrogation *Having really basic tastes in media but talking about those t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:28 AM
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I like anime but tbh u right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 04:46 AM
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I'm good at scrabble, and I read a lot, and I got a perfect score on the English SAT2, so I probably have a better vocabulary than some... But most of the people that I talk to day to day are either my immediate family members or my peers at "the Harvard of Bumfuck Nowhere." We're all pretty smart and obviously have similar levels of education. I don't really care if a guy is less educated than me as long as he's not a complete doofus. Fun story: My one serious LTR was with a guy from the Nether…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 04:10 AM
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"The patriarchy" is the result of women's social and reproductive roles. When women spend their time raising children and maintaining a residence, they have less time to acquire resources. Men do that for them--> women rely on men--> men have control over women and near exclusive access to positions of power in society. Obviously this has changed a bit thanks to technology and the fact that women can now acquire their own resources. In hunter gatherer societies where women are responsible for as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 03:51 AM
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4-7 doesn't sound too far off for my circles. I'm a 21 yo college student in a sorority. Several of my friends are virgins, or in LTRs and have only ever slept with that one person. My most promiscuous friends still probably cap out at 15-20 partners. Most fall somewhere in the middle. As a group we are mostly attractive and ostensibly sex positive, it just boils down to time spent in LTRs or voluntarily celibate vs time spent going for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 03:29 AM
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Maybe you're right to be weary of, say, Mormon polygamists, but with modern "poly" triads and such I don't think it's that deep. Maybe you're a bi woman, you meet a couple consisting of a bi woman and a straight or bi man, you like them both, they both like you, you all get together. Obviously this doesn't happen very often, but I know one throuple who have been together for more than a decade and seem quite happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 03:10 AM
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Bullying doesn't go away in single sex schools. I don't think that single ed is necessarily worse than co ed, but it sure as hell doesn't stop kids from picking on each other to establish hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 03:03 AM
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I mean, yeah. But they're invisible, so of course men think they don't exist. And they usually don't make asses of themselves online the way incels do... They just write fanfiction in peace. Hell, even for attractive women, you'd be surprised how big a difference styling and body language can make to one's "visibility."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:06 AM
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Oh absolutely. 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:48 AM
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No, I think those things have caused men to be more insecure about being average or below. Barring extremes, women care a lot more about the man attached to the peen than the peen itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 06:07 AM
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Eh, I'd have to wait and see how things shake out. Will I discover some latent bisexuality? Will my feelings towards the man change? Find out on the next episode of Sex Island.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 07:32 AM
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Dude, if you are actively and consciously enforcing "female privilege" because it gives you some advantage, you really have nothing to complain about. It has nothing to do with "women," it has to do with you jumping off a cliff and then saying "You want to get really angry? Look at what this cliff did to me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:36 PM
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Soooo even less reason for you to let her win. Still sounds like a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:27 PM
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...What? You letting your gf win at chess is female privilege? Couldn't you just fucking not do that? I highly doubt your gf would break up with you for saying "nuh uh no takebacks," so this kinda sounds like a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 04:46 PM
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Pfft! I wish. I've had enough trouble just finding one!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 04:10 AM
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Everyone on the internet is a top percentile genius, you'll find.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:51 PM
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be yourself the best way possible. ...Which means don't try to be an entirely different person, but maybe conceal your major flaws, at least at first. That's what normal, successful people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:45 PM
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See, that's the problem with these rape fantasy threads: At least one knucklehead like you will take it to mean that rape is totally cool and not a problem and women secretly all want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 06:19 PM
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jokes on you zfg stands for zvery fucking gay
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:58 AM
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I would! I do not believe that for a second
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:55 AM
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You'd rather be buttfucked against your will than raise a baby you aren't genetically related to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:21 PM
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What you are referring to is slavery. Slavery is indeed not permissible. But working a standard job and paying taxes is not slavery, due to the fact that you can stop working at any time. You just won't be able to enjoy the benefits that having a job and being a tax paying citizen provide. No one can force you to work. THAT would violate your bodily integrity. But the government can compel you to give up a portion of your earnings so that you may enjoy the benefits of a modern civilized society.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:13 AM
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Study: Water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 11:10 PM
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Can't tell if you're being obtuse for the sake of argument or if you legit believe that taxation is a violation of your bodily integrity the same way rape or organ theft would be. Either way, not worth my time to keep trying to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 11:05 PM
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What I'm hearing here is that you don't actually know what bodily integrity is. I'll give you a hint: If no one is forcing you to work (aka slavery), preventing you from moving from place to place, forcing you to have sex against your will, or forcing you to give up your kidney, then your right to bodily autonomy is not being violated. Your money is not part of your body. Also, who is "you"? The government? That's the only entity I can think of that would compel you to give up any amount of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:57 PM
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Who is trying to outlaw condoms or vasectomies? Men's right to those things has never been in question. Women's right to birth control and abortion is mentioned in that section because the supreme court has had to uphold it when it was threatened. "Reproductive autonomy" only exists as it pertains to bodily integrity. No one can force you to get a vasectomy, nor can they bar you from one. No one can force you to give blood or bone marrow. If you could get pregnant, no one could force you to carr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:48 PM
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That doesn't support your point at all. Why on earth would a man need a birth control or an abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 03:28 AM
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That's... not at all true. A 5 minute wikipedia search could tell you that's not true. The United States Constitution does not contain any specific provisions regarding the rights one has with respect to his or her physical body or the specific extent to which the state can act upon bodies.[10] However, the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld right to privacy, which, as articulated by Julie Lane, often protects rights to bodily integrity. In Griswold v. Connecticut (1965) the Court supported women's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 03:03 AM
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The laws in our capitalistic society are forcing him to whore himself out and sell his kidneys?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 02:49 AM
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Everyone has a right to bodily autonomy. If yours is being violated, feel free to call the police. Stop playing victim
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 12:24 AM
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How exactly is your labor relevant to bodily autonomy? Are you a sex worker? A professional organ donor? Is someone forcing you to do these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 12:19 AM
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You're WAY more likely to get db'd or whatever if you're meek and reticent in bed. Make sex FUN, make your wants and needs known in an unselfconscious, low pressure way, encourage her to do the same, and stay attractive. Men who manage that rarely have to resort to fucking marital rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 04:15 AM
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You need to be as sexually forward and open with girls you are dating as with girls you are casually fucking. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 01:21 AM
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Hm. Maybe just not at my friends' schools then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 10:11 PM
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I've never heard of European schools having social fraternities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 10:02 PM
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This sounds made up (roids 10 days a week? what?), but even if it's not, it doesn't sound like he is much better off than he was before. What kind of psychopath beats up his dad? How is it a good thing that he can't treat his gfs as sexual beings and love them at the same time? He also just sounds like a deeply unpleasant person and kind of an idiot. It's definitely not true that girls will do less for you in bed if you show vulnerability. Girls will do all kinds of kinky shit for a guy who they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 09:57 PM
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Definitely an addiction lol. It's one of my biggest procrastination tools
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 01:58 AM
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Who are the real romantics? Who gives a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:48 PM
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If you clicked them you might find out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:42 PM
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There definitely are/were female San leaders, to the extent that the San even have "leaders". If we're excluding family and social power from the convo (which I think is a bit disingenuous considering how important family and social bonds are to these groups) women still have plenty of say in major group decisions and take leadership roles, even if men put themselves forward more often. Richard B. Lee (one of the world's leading experts on the subject) gives a nice rundown of leadership and sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:40 PM
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They are. No one has a perfectly objective view of the world, least of all people who think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:15 PM
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Everyone has biases and skewed perception. You however are claiming that your skewed perceptions contain the whole and absolute truth, which they factually do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:47 PM
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Lots, but you could start with the links in the op.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 07:47 PM
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Really? I agree that "egalitarian" might be the wrong term because it implies "sameness," but there's plenty of evidence that women in at least some hunter-gatherer societies were held in equal or near equal esteem to men. Hell, you point to the Khoisan to illustrate "natural" human social dynamics all the time. San women traditionally enjoy very high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 07:42 PM
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I think the only thing that's telling of is that men hunted big game and fought in wars more often. My understanding is that hunter gatherers still had/have gender roles, but for the most part women enjoyed equal status and social power.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 05:37 PM
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Yeah and Mary of Nazareth was a woman. Whoop de do. Gerald Gardener brought Wicca into the mainstream, but Wicca is only one of many neopagan movements. But of course if you're the type who genuinely thinks that "women find spirituality and morality alien" then nothing I or anyone else says is going to change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 05:28 AM
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Yes, neo-paganist spirituality is definitely led by women. I don't know much about those things, but generally I see them as an attempt by women to create paths of spiritual development that are free from the male dominated power structures of most major religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 08:44 PM
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Are you for real? JFK might be comparable, but the only real equivalent are male hollywood sex symbols. Ask women what they'd think if Chris Pratt or whoever did the things in your OP. They might still feel violated, but I assure you plenty would react exactly like a man confronted with a grabby ScarJo. Money isn't a literal aphrodisiac, it makes Harvey Weinstein powerful but no less ugly and old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 05:36 AM
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I suppose I would have to completely trust my partner's judgement over my own, and also trust that they have my best interests 100% at heart. The problem is, I find the idea of being in a relationship like this very strange. Firstly, Atlas is right: Men my age are extremely unlikely to fit that criteria. I like and respect many men in my dating range, but generally they're no more competent or mature than I am. Secondly, authority figures make me nervous. If I perceived my SO as an authority fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 05:17 AM
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I think it's mostly the implication of not trusting your own competence that turns people off. Being kind, giving, and respectful to your partner is important, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they know how to run your life better than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 04:04 AM
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The more we spoke, the more I felt aroused. normally sex makes me more aroused mentally than in the body I’ve been wet the whole week I believe I intimidated him I’m a rather logic person Hello I am Fifi McRealwoman, a genuine human female. Hot Dudes set my vagina flaps aquiver. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go watch a rom com and polish my breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 04:49 AM
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many people find the idea of adults having sex with minors distasteful regardless of legality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 04:32 AM
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The legal age of majority is 18 in all US states except for Alabama, where it is 19. Age of consent is a different matter, but regardless, many people find the idea of adults having sex with minors distasteful regardless of legality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 10:17 PM
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Well, I suppose I shouldn't say no problem. Maybe How to Win Friends and Influence People would've been a better example. Obviously a lot of the tactics in 48 Laws are underhanded, and it kinda reads like it was written by a super villain, but I think the tactics themselves can be used selectively and for good. It reminded me of "The Wisdom of Psychopaths" a little bit. And it's clearly intended to help people get ahead in the workplace, not in romantic relationships. I flair as purple, but tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 02:57 AM
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Most of my problems with TRP don't stem from the sidebar material, although some of it is, imo, bigoted crazy person garbage. I actually quite like Athol Kay and Mark Manson, I think they provide solid strategies for men with minimal fluff, unnecessary negativity, or ideologically driven premises. I even bought Models for a friend of mine who was struggling with dating (in lieu of trying to advise him myself) and he apparently found it helpful. Never read NMMNG. And I have no problem with profes…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 02:00 AM
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Ok, so if you acknowledge that the small percentage of men who rape are still real and can still do damage, then women who are wary of men they don't know very well are correct to be, no? Poison skittles and all that. Being wary of men because some of them are dangerous is not the same as thinking that every man is dangerous. I would argue that it's women who aren't cautious around strange men who "shouldn't be outside without a chaperone."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:00 PM
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Do you believe that a woman who voluntarily goes somewhere alone with a strange man and gets raped is partially responsible for her assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:14 PM
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Yeah I always thought the "Hillary Clinton is a hideous frigid man jawed unfuckable lesbian troll!!" rhetoric was pretty transparent. Like, she's a politician. Being hyperfeminine would hurt her credibility. And she still has more charisma in her left pinky toe than most people will wield in their entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:00 PM
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In feminist philosophy, the male gaze is the act of depicting the world and women in the visual arts and in literature from a masculine and heterosexual point of view, which present women as objects of male pleasure. The male gaze is comparable to scopophilia, specifically with females in the passive role of the observed—as the objects of the male perspective—while males are the 'active' observers in viewing the female from their perspective. The male gaze is a term specific to visual media. Fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 09:48 PM
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Lol at all these middle age divorcees who think 18 yo models would just be clamoring for their wrinkly dicks if not for the crushing burden of society's shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:51 PM
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18 is the age of majority in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:41 PM
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Men really don't get "shamed" for dating younger women unless those women are underage or close to it. You might get a look or two if your gf looks like your daughter, but that's not "shaming." You don't get to be immune from all judgement when you make choices that are outside the norm. Also, unless older men are regularly getting beat up, disowned by their families, or losing their jobs for dating younger women, your comparison to homophobia is pretty weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:34 PM
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Brb gonna start exclusively referring to my dad as "my mom's baby daddy."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:12 PM
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So I say they're both good, you say they're both bad... Either way, it's not a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:08 PM
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Wait so which one do you think is negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:00 PM
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...Aren't both those labels somewhat positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 01:10 AM
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You can tell it's a juicy one when the top rated thread is entirely made out of [removed]s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 09:02 PM
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I mean, in all seriousness, that does kinda get to the heart of it. They'd just say it like "it helps shake you out of your bp mindset" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:31 PM
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I think almost all women would consider being "a good wife" to include being supportive of your spouse, looking after their needs, being agreeable/not picking fights, and doing what you can to make their life better. There are things not included in that list that I would consider necessary, and there are things that more tradcon women might want to add, but I believe those are the common denominators for what being a good wife entails to most women. (I also think that most of those things are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:02 PM
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a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:36 PM
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I guess my requirements for any male partner would be: Desires me strongly and makes that known, is likable and socially appropriate, is physically attractive (details vary, but a masculine shoulder/hip ratio and an expressive face are big attraction cues for me), and has values somewhat aligned with mine. For an LTR there's extra stuff, like chemistry and rapport, intellectual compatibility, sexual compatibility, affection, emotional openness, good hygiene, commitment to the relationship, etc e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:33 AM
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Well, unattractive men are unattractive, they're going to have a difficult time by definition. The good news is almost anyone can become fairly attractive, even if you're feminine by nature or have an unfortunate face. Self improvement is difficult, it takes a lot of time, and many people don't have the willpower to see it through, but the resources are out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 12:30 AM
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I was mostly commenting on the overall notion that someone like you could hide their beliefs even if they wanted to. Admittedly I could've just replied to the top level, but yours is the reply that sparked that thought so, here we are. And I'm not implying anything about your friends, I'm saying that they must be okay with your beliefs (call them what you will) if they're willing to be friends with you. It's a bit deluded to think that everyone loves you for your beliefs when really, people who …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:16 PM
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I'm not saying that women never act crazy in public lol. They certainly do. I've also encountered my fair share of crazy homeless dudes and racist grandpas, but I wasn't talking about benign craziness. What I mean is that every time I've seen or been a person getting mugged harassed or assaulted in public, the perp has been a man. It's not exactly controversial that men do this stuff more often than women. And it also doesn't change the fact that 99.9% of my daily interactions with men are neutr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:20 PM
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You might want to try a different sub if all tounge-in-cheek sexism gets you that bent out of shape
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:06 PM
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Yeah see thinking that women are an "inferior species" is pretty hard to hide. If you are open with your misogyny, then you select for friends and dates who are okay with it. It doesn't mean they somehow don't notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:04 PM
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No I think there are plenty of ways of stereotyping what is, ultimately, a pretty small section of men. Let me put it to you this way: Many feminists aren't abrasive sjws with funky colored hair. But if you meet someone of that description, there's a good chance she's a feminist. I don't think that every single rper fits my "type," but you asked how one might identify a rper in the wild, and there you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:59 PM
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You seem upset
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:48 PM
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There's no way to id what subreddits people frequent without asking. But there is certainly a TRP/alt-right/young republican "type" that I've encountered in real life, and it's unfortunately not as flattering as most RPers would have you believe. It's these guys who are a bit socially awkward, but put on a show of confidence to the point where they come across as abrasive or tone deaf. They're usually average looking, and may or may not be in good physical shape. They are usually politically con…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:27 PM
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What, you get accosted by a lot of drunk and gropey women on the subway?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 03:04 PM
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Buying women stuff isn't "white knighting" lol. The answer to why guys do that is simple: they're hoping they can buy her affection. They see women go for rich guys who spoil them and want to replicate that effect, even though it's fruitless because they're not rich enough for women to forgive a lack of attraction just because of some gifts. But for actual "white knighting," aka defending a woman when she didn't ask for it, I think guys mostly do it because they feel like it's the right thing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 06:03 AM
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If prostitues got to only bang hot guys of their choosing it would kind of defeat the purpose of prostitues, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 05:43 AM
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I think the issue is that nice, normal interactions between men and women ARE the norm, and are therefore not worth reporting on in the media. I've encountered a few jerks and creeps myself, but they only stand out because 99.9% of my daily interactions with people, including men, are polite and unremarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 05:40 AM
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Was going to say something like this lol. Most men aren't assholes, but most assholes are men!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 05:34 AM
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Lol of course they do. It's not like finding one reddit forum with fun matrix themed branding fundamentally changes who you are as a person. Lots of people are (or are able to become) charismatic and attractive without "strategizing". RP might be helpful for some guys who struggle with women, but there are plenty of BP guys out there who never have these problems, or who have them and overcome them in their own way. For example, one of my good friends is a skinny bisexual communist who somehow a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 11:15 PM
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many never put out And I've got a beautiful bridge in Brooklyn with your name on it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:06 AM
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Oh lord. Her comments are so mild lmao. If deciding that relationships aren't worth it or bemoaning your inability to find a partner is misandry now, then I'm sad to inform you that a good chunk of the men on here are in fact raging misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:00 AM
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See my rely to DebatesNotBans. Yes, I am dismissive of the idea that PPD can teach anyone about the full extent of "masculine difficulties." The kinds of problems that get discussed on here are fixable first world problems. Which is fine, those things matter too, but I think the idea that someone would be extremely shocked at the hardships men face based on discussions on PPD is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 06:47 PM
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Right, and I know that's the kind of stuff Eastuss was talking about. I think that while those things are unfortunate, they're first world, young men's problems, and they're really small fries compared to the kind of genuine hardship people (men!) can face. I'm talking about illness, poverty, estrangement from your children, the death of a spouse, caring for ailing parents, police brutality, life changing injury. Social isolation and difficulty finding a partner are problems, but they're not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 06:41 PM
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Ok, and the rest? Like I said, not calling anyone weak or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:48 PM
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I think more guys are like this than will admit it lol. It's the inverse of the phenomenon of girls liking "bad boys" or whatever. The thrill of being able to "best" or "tame" someone wild, and of not knowing what they're going to do next. People like this are seductive because they keep you on your toes and create an emotional rollercoaster, but obviously this kind of chemistry isn't great for long term success.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:14 AM
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Are you talking about me or the guy above me? I'm not commenting on the >tfw no gf crowd's moral character. I just have no idea how Eastuss came to the conclusion that the topics discussed here reveal the greatest difficulties men face, or that no woman could be aware of men's difficulties without visiting PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:07 AM
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masculine difficulties in life you had no idea of Lol and what would those be? Not the person you're responding to but I'm pretty sure that men in my life have overcome greater obstacles than the >tfw no gf shit that guys on here complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:24 PM
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"Varied" might be too strong a term. They were almost all conservative or libertarian in the last pole iirc, which fits with what the op is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 09:30 PM
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I'm sure some men with rape fantasies are terrible and get off on the idea of making women suffer. But most men aren't terrible, so I imagine that with most of them the motivation for these fantasies isn't much deeper than enjoying the idea of conquering/domination in general, or the idea of being able to release the full force of their sexuality without repercussions. And that, same as with women, many of these "rape" fantasies are ravishment fantasies, where the man makes the woman submit but …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 02:51 AM
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...No it doesn't? This claim doesn't even pass a cursory sniff test. Do you have any evidence at all that "most" battered women get abused in every relationship thereafter? Also: men can choose not to isolate and physically terrorize the person they are in a relationship with. If she "henpecks" him, he can leave. They are not equivalent. Henpecking is an annoyance, physical violence can result in injury or death.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 02:01 AM
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How do you know people are angry or raging over the web?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:20 AM
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If this was the case, then every woman who left an abusive relationship would inevitably end up being abused again in the next one. But that is clearly not the case. Shockingly, men can choose not to isolate and physically terrorize the person they are in a relationship with. If she "henpecks" him, he can leave. They are not equivalent. Henpecking is an annoyance, physical violence can result in injury or death.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 05:18 AM
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Is it really that odd? Of course you're "consenting" to experiencing your own fantasy in your own head lol, how could you have non-consensual thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:46 AM
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I think you're projecting male sexuality onto women. A fugly woman with a great personality might not be able to ignite your lust, but I've watched women pine after these guys, chase after them for years. You don't get that kind of devotion from a woman unless you turn her on, that's just a fact! Of course I'm just talking about people from my life, but even the existence of a few of these guys proves that being ugly but charismatic can work out fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:41 PM
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Frankly I have never met a republican man that I didn't find unattractive, annoying, or both. But I do run in left leaning circles. Regardless, I don't care for ONSs, so I make it a general policy not to sleep with anyone who I could never see myself dating, even if I only want them as a FWB or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:26 PM
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Yes, "traits" alone. No matter who you are, if you develop your social skills, presence, warmth, power, and wit, you will attract more women. I know most users on here think that you must be extremely attractive for personality to matter, but this just doesn't bear out in my experience. If you have a certain level of charisma (which is a loose term describing that amalgamation of traits) you will be desirable to women, unless your physical appearance is so truly repulsive as to offset everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:11 PM
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Do you think women don't, you know, talk to the men they sleep with? I've been back in the dating game recently, and if I so much as find out that a guy's a hardline republican he's going straight in the bin lol. It's really not that hard to get a vague picture of someone's beliefs from a few conversations, provided they don't straight up lie. And even if you did lie, maybe you could avoid outing yourself in a ONS situation, but the majority of casual sex that young people are having is of the F…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:50 AM
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No, I think that social skills, power, and warmth are all sexually attractive traits. Alpha traits, if you will. They are traits that will make women want to have sex with you, even if they're not directly related to your physicality. I think those are myths. Not myths, just the weird workings of the human brain! There's actual research on this phenomenon. Look it up if you don't believe me, it's pretty interesting. It's like a reverse of the placebo effect. The mind can influence the body, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:16 AM
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So then you're just arbitrarily using two different definitions of respect. By your definition above: by "respect" we mean "doesn't abuse, doesn't treat us like shit, and fucks us at reasonable times and intervals" Then women absolutely want respect from their male partners. On what planet do women want to be abused and treated like shit? Since you clearly have two entirely distinct concepts in mind when you say these things, why not use two diffferent words? Call this: doesn't abuse, doesn't tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:39 PM
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Of course, yes, women will laugh at any dumb thing a guy says if they like him. Laughing at someone's jokes is a way to signal interest. But couldn't it be both? Being funny will definitely make people, and by extension girls, like you more. Humor entailes a fine web of social skills, power, warmth, and astuteness, which are all attractive traits. Or this could be an example of the mind following the body, like how smiling can make you feel happier and spreading your arms makes you feel more con…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:25 PM
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"RP" doesn't necessarily mean "team man always and forever."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:15 PM
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If that's all that "respect" means to you, then why are you constantly saying that men don't or shouldn't respect their female partners? I can get that men shouldn't idolize their female partners, but this definition of respect is just basic decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:43 PM
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They should! I've chipped in a few bucks. It would be great to give men more autonomy when it comes to contraception, and it would be a useful option for couples where the woman doesn't want to use hormones for whatever reason. But TRP is usually content with taking advantage of the status quo, and MRAs have never been very interested in activism that doesn't involve tearing down women/feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:57 AM
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Annoying as mgtows are, they aren't nearly as virulent as incels when it comes to overrunning threads and making every single post about them and their problems, which are the reasons that incel posts got banned from ppd. Yes, both groups are delusional and nutty from an outsider's pov, but ppd allows all kinds of nutters... Just not ones that gunk up the sub and ruin the experience for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 05:02 PM
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None of that is a good reason to restrict women from using birth control. Just because it COULD be used in service of cheating does not make the legitimate uses any less legitimate. This includes therapeutic uses, yes, but it also includes married women who want to have sex with their husbands without getting pregnant. Uncontrolled pregnancy is not just taxing on a woman's individual body, it is taxing on society with it's limited number of resources. Would you rather women just stop having sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:33 PM
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Lol what the fuck was that total non-sequitur. Is English not your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:58 PM
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Dude. No, there are not. Just saying words doesn't make them true. Oh man, another red who doesn't know what hamstering means. Amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:21 AM
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Oops, accidentally deleted my reply. Meant to say: Birth control is indeed regularly prescribed for other purposes, especially among younger women. It's used for PCOS, endometriosis, irregular periods, and several other minor hormonal/uterine issues. Viagra is almost always used for erectile disfunction. It theoretically could be used for high blood pressure, but there are blood pressure medications that work better and don't give you a raging boner. Again, save it for someone who doesn't know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:37 PM
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There's at least one guy on here who's team "trans women master race" sooo you've got him on your side!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:16 PM
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That's what it was originally created for, but it is definitely not prescribed for heart disease with any kind of regularity. Save it for someone who isn't surrounded by pharm people all day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:08 PM
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God, the level of hamstering in all your comments is truly next level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 07:07 PM
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Oh, yeah, I think that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:38 AM
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My question is, why do the men who bang on about "men's suffering" (from not getting enough sex etc) expect total strangers to care about their personal dating struggles as if they were institutional issues? I could get on here and talk about how boo hoo guys keep flaking on me, I can't find a boyfriend wahh and maybe I'd get a few polite "chin up, kid" responses mixed with a whole lot of shit about how dumb and entitled I am. And while that might irritate me, I would accuse none of those people…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:33 AM
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Birth control doesn't give women a man to have sex with either. What's your point? And when have you ever heard of men taking viagra just to jack off?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:42 PM
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If you think there's no rape or sexual frustration in societies with Sharia law you are deluding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:57 PM
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recreational use Women use birth control for lots of reasons other than to have sex. Most insurance companies subsidize viagra as well, which truly does have no purpose besides allowing men to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:55 PM
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I'm sure some women find super masculine guys intimidating or unrefined, and prefer a more "civilized," gentle looking guy or even straight up androgyny a la Bowie. Personally I like either, but there aren't a lot of big hairy guys catching fish with their bare hands in my line of work LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:01 PM
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It's a viable option if you hang out with rapists and you want to stop hanging out with rapists. It doesn't do jack shit to change the attitudes of rapists who think their behavior is okay, or to prevent sexual violence on a societal level. People who advocate for consent education are mostly interested in the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:23 PM
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Several of my male friends are vocal supporters of consent education. I tend to pride myself in hanging out with non scumbags, but that doesn't mean that scumbags aren't out there doing scummy things and thinking they're totally fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:10 PM
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This is a weird way to look at the world. I think most women's default reaction to a random man on the street is neutrality, just like with everyone else. If you're surrounded by men who could hurt you, then yeah, fear would be rational. If you're hanging out with a man you like (sexually or not), then finding him cute makes sense. What is even the question here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:31 PM
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Instead of teaching men how to read the conflicting signals that women give, we need to teach women how to fucking say no! Porque no los dos
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:19 PM
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Okay, but plenty of guys do. Now what? Do you want to plug your ears and go lalala or try to do something about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:17 PM
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Huh? How am I not answering him? He asked if I am "ok" with women pointing and laughing as a man is abused. I'm not. I think it's horrible, just like his op.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:01 PM
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Did I not specifically say that it's not ok regardless of the genders involved? you women See, there's your problem. Your inability to see women as anything but the out-group prevents you from empathizing with them, which leads to the callous disregard for their humanity and bodily integrity seen in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:27 AM
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Maybe you don't find women funny, but that could be for a whole bunch of completely subjective reasons. But I do partially agree in that I think people who are so beautiful that they never had to work to attract the opposite sex end up with weird, sometimes boring personalities. But I've known both men and women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:45 AM
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I would say that calling the police is a perfectly reasonable bystander response. Pointing and laughing because a woman is getting her just desserts for being a woman is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 05:41 PM
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You don't need to punch anyone in the face, if you see someone getting attacked you call the police or run and get help like a goddamn human being. This goes for either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 05:36 PM
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The equivalent to women for caring about men's dating problems is men not caring about women's dating problems. Which I think is perfectly reasonable. People's personal problems are their business. Standing by as you watch a woman get beaten or raped, as you seem to be suggesting men do, is not equivalent to that. Anyone who would allow bodily harm to come to someone when they could easily stop it, just because of a personal vendetta against "women" as a group is not a good person, nor would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:47 PM
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That's irrelevant. I want to have good relationships with individuals of both genders, and I think that making negative gender stereotypes fundamental to your worldview makes it hard to do that. You can acknowledge that statistically men commit more crime without going around saying "all men are pigs and rapists." The former is a neutral fact, while the latter is a baseless judgement that effects how you treat individual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 01:21 AM
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I wouldn't want to associate with a group whose ideology is predicated on all men being violent pigs either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:50 AM
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To be honest I didn't read it very carefully on first pass and now your post is gone lol. I don't discount that it exists, but I don't think that "college PC culture" is comparable to actual institutional bias that certain groups face. By and large, white men are not disadvantaged in college settings. This teacher's views are weird and fucked, but they are an anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:03 AM
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Bad and dumb if true, but still just one person. "Institutional" bias implies a long standing, widespread, deep seated prejudice within various institutions, not just "a person with (some) power has this bias." Also, college students aren't children. They can form their own opinions, and file bias reports if they are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 04:22 AM
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institutional I don't think that word means what you think it means
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 03:49 AM
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Oh, you again. Anyways, a) not single, b) what would I gain from lying on an anonymous internet forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 03:47 AM
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The reason I'm not with most of them at the moment is because I broke up with them lol. I do not have a high n count, because I'm picky to a fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 02:58 AM
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You say these things like most men in the real world actually care about n count, and women are mad about it. I think this is an imaginary problem, except in highly conservative communities. Personally, no man I've dated (except one weird Italian Trump supporter) has ever asked or given a shit about my n count or level of promiscuity. Go figure. To answer your question, there's really no need for reconciliation. A low n count is valuable to some people, but not everyone. What kind of answers wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:01 AM
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Seriously. TRP's version of hypergamy is an unfalsifiable premise. Everyone is better than their partner in some way. Every person you meet considers thenself superior to you in some way. That's just a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 06:27 PM
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Huh? How is it more logical to date up in looks than to date up in status/wealth? You actually gain something by doing the latter, while the former just results in a headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 06:22 PM
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Neither is TRP's definition, technically. But you guys they cite women dating up in looks as an example of hypergamy all the time, so I'd say that comparison is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 06:19 PM
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You're just being contrarian. No one talks about whale/chimp/mosquito morality for a reason, which is that morality is a function of higher cognitive processes that these animals don't have. Besides, few animals besides humans engage in forced sex at all. They just mate when the seasons or the female's cycle say it's time to mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:06 PM
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Sounds like solipsism. Just because you think that way, doesnt mean other people think that way too. Right back atcha. Sounds like you're projecting your performative anti-shallowness onto more men than it applies to. First of all, it's pretty obvious girls cant really be "incel". Secondly, did you seriously go through my post history??? That's why I put "incel" in quotes. Sure someone (like you) might want a fat acne ridden gamer grrl, but not many people. And LOL no I didn't, I just remember y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:59 PM
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I dunno, depends if I just magically became ugly one day or if I was burned or got acid thrown on my face or something. If the former, I would make sure my fitness, clothes and styling were impeccable, and I'd consider plastic surgery. Not much more to do than that. If the latter... I'd still try to get the best reconstructive surgery I could, but then I guess I'd just have to learn to live with people responding to me with shock and disgust. I'd probably try to find a fellow burn victim to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:48 PM
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Dude, no. Even most unattractive men would pick a good looking girl over an ugly one 9 times out of 10, all else being equal. It's not like I don't know any unnatractive men. Of course men value different things, but appearance is something that they value almost universally. Lots of guys say they want a girl who is a hardcore gamer, wears hoodies, etc. Great, cool, go for it. But given those traits, most of them would not ask out fat, acne ridden girls, they would ask out thin, clear skinned gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:30 PM
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Very few men prefer ugly women over hot ones. Like, very very very few. But if you do, power to you, uggos need love too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:12 PM
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Or she was just, y'know, making a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:01 PM
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What other animals have a concept of morality, let alone one that prohibits rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 07:24 AM
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Even as a thought experiment your scenario is goofy. Why is the human species down to two individuals? Why, in this scenario, is the woman's urge to procreate not also going haywire? As the last two humans on earth they're bound to get pretty close eventually, yeah? Are they related? Is one of them really old or really young? Is the man visibly diseased or deformed? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and believe that you're not trying to ssy "Sometimes rape is okay." In this scenario, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 10:46 PM
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Im not even talking about stds! I'm sure if I lived somewhere like Australia where prostitution is legal and above ground my attitudes would be different, but in the US, visiting hookers is legally and morally risky. It's an unregulated, illegal industry rife with corruption and abuse. How can you be sure the person you're hiring isn't being traficked or mistreated? How can you be sure you won't be caught with your pants down by the police? I don't see it as an absolute evil by any means, but if…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:19 PM
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That's a very ugly website
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 12:28 AM
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I think part of it is just that people find hookers gross, and find people who sleep with hookers gross by association. But even without the ick factor, there's the fact that seeing hookers is risky and potentially unethical, which may demonstrate poor judgement on the part of the john.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:30 PM
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I think part of it is just that people find hookers gross, and find people who sleep with hookers gross by association. But even without the ick factor, there's the fact that seeing hookers is risky and potentially unethical, which may demonstrate poor judgement on the part of the john.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:30 PM
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I don't have a problem with either one. But I would certainly have more of a problem with my boyfriend visiting a hooker than I would with him watching redtube, for the reasons stated above.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:26 PM
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Uncomfortable how? Like, uncomfortable with their male partner partaking, or uncomfortable with the concept itself? Because if you mean the former then I can certainly see why, since seeing a prostitute involves a physical act and would be a) cheating b) potentially illegal and c) potentially unethical. Whereas porn is just a video, pretty harmless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:51 PM
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Everyone thinks they're sooooo interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:27 PM
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This post is a real one-man circlejerk jamboree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:39 AM
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Everything I pointed out in my argument is showing that men and women aren't equal. Therefor, sexist, by default, is a broken term because its based on the false premise that we are equal. Hold on a second, in the thread where you're arguing with me, you just said that this wasn't your point. Yet here you are arguing exactly that. So, once again I say: A random given woman may well be much smarter and more accomplished than you are A female fighter pilot is not "inferior" to some fat nerd on red…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:27 PM
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Where? Sigh. Rather than copy and paste the whole previous thread, I'll just recap the most relevant part. GoldPilot said: Assuming you're inherently higher ranked than someone based on nothing but sex isn't particularly respectful. [...] A woman needn't obey simply because a man said so. And you replied to this with your whole spiel about how men are biologically superior at everything. If you agreed, you would have said so. Instead you argued against these statements. If you were JUST trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:16 PM
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I was speaking about macrocosm differences The only "macro" difference you mentioned was physical strength. All the rest are the result of psychological differences that are somewhat scientifically murky and may mostly come down to socialization. Inferior in the sense of that the man makes the final decisions. Like an alpha male in wildlife. So you mean "subordinate," not "inferior." I still disagree that all women must be subordinate to all men. The very point of my comment was to prove that wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:06 PM
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Are you seriously proclaiming that a man who breaks up with his female partner because she banged some one else will be demonized and called "controlling?" You missed the entire context of that quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:43 PM
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Biologically, men are better at just about everything. Except living longer, sense of smell, color recognition, working memory... We hold 99.99% of the inventions How many of those are YOU responsible for? Why should a given woman respect you for the accomplishments of others? higher IQ males are infinitely more common than our higher IQ females If by "infinitely" you mean "slightly." There are also slightly more low IQ men. she won't mind being inferior and playing the inferior role And yet RPW…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:22 PM
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Let me tell you a story of a time that a girl told me she wasn't going to have sex with me. is your name louis ck
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:58 PM
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I don't really have a problem with 80% of this to be honest. Most of it is just encouraging men to treat women with the same courtesy that they treat other men (esp. in the workplace), and I don't see how that "creates weak men" or whatever. For the controversial bits: People shouldn't have to explicitly say no. This is silly, of course people should know to say "no." BUT reading your partner's body language and checking in if they seem uncomfortable is just common courtesy. Verbally challenge t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:53 PM
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Lol. No. It only becomes a problem if a guy is, as TRP likes to say, using you as an emotional tampon. If a guy is well adjusted and mostly able to handle his shit, then vulnerability is always preferable to being a stoic, repressed mess. I can't speak for all women, but most that I know have no problem with being a shoulder to cry on for their LTRs as long as it doesn't reach the level of having to play mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 11:12 PM
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Yeah, I had one in college when I had just gotten out of my one serious LTR. I wanted to see what casual sex was like, and what sex with a man who wasn't The Ex was like. I didn't know him but we had mutual friends. I was at a party at his house with some of those friends, we got to chatting, and he invited me up to his room. The sex was fine, nothing to write home about. I felt icky about it afterwards, but mostly because I felt like I had betrayed The Ex somehow by sleeping with someone else s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 10:04 PM
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We do know the basic anatomy of the vagina lol. Also, how about asking some women? Here, I'll get you started: I've fucked very attractive men who I had strong feeling for, and less attractive men who I didn't. Of course I enjoyed sex with the former much more, but still never orgasmed from PIV without other stimulation. Ask, and I'm sure plenty of other women will tell you the same thing, or even that they've been able to orgasm from PIV alone with unattractive men. But of course you won't, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:53 PM
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You didn't read the rest of my reply. there isn't some hotness threshold that will suddenly make a woman's genital anatomy change so that she can orgasm from piv alone if she never has before Women's ability to orgasm FROM PIV ALONE is not determined by the attractiveness of her partner. Most women have no problem orgasming during sex, they just need clit stimulation to get there. Sure, maybe being with a partner you find attractive/have chemistry with will get you more hot and bothered, but a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 03:53 AM
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Right. Most women get wet easily, it's a physiological reaction to any sexual stimulus. Most women have clitoral orgasms easily, because the many nerve endings that run through there connect right to the pudendal nerve, which carries genital sensations to the brain in both sexes. Some women orgasm from piv easily, and some don't, because the inner tissues of the clitoris that wrap around the vagina are arranged slightly differently person to person. All of this is physiological. Do you think tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 03:38 AM
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Your pet theory is wrong. People's anatomy differs in subtle ways that make it easy for some women and impossible for others. If female arousal/orgasm was completely "in her head" then women wouldn't be able to become wet or orgasm with men they're not attracted to at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 03:11 AM
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That's all fine and good, but it's different than boy scouts, and only for teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:09 PM
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I understand the motivation. Boy scouts does stuff that many kids would be interested in, not just boys, and girl scouts is kinda bullshit. I remember when I was a kid I really wanted to join a scout organization that went out in the woods and taught us how to fish and climb and stuff, and was really disappointed that Girl Scouts was definitely not that, and that nothing like that existed for girls in my area. I think the ideal solution would be to create a new scout organization, for girls but …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:16 PM
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Huh? Personally I don't know a single gay man who isn't a feminist of some stripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:56 AM
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Really not as weird as you think. I think most women care for their long term partners this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 02:56 AM
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I mean sex is sex is sex but our hormones and reproductive drive won't really let us get sick of it altogether. We would live in a very different world if even a sizable minority of people tried sex a couple of times and were like "That's it? Boring. Gonna go do something else now." And just... Never did it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 05:12 AM
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I do think some really militant feminists are kinda ugly. I think it's mostly because they don't try to make themselves conventionally attractive, as sort of a rebellion against what they would consider opressive beauty standards. I don't think being fat or ugly is something inherent to women with feminist beliefs. I think the majority of feminists fly under the radar because they don't look like the stereotype. I know you'd never look at me or my girlfriends and think "ew what a bunch of sjw la…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:37 PM
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How many redpillers does it take to change a lightbulb? One, but he'll tell you there were five lightbulbs, and they were all 9.5/10 watts, and that he changed them right in front of their beta chump sockets. ALBALT
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:55 AM
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DMV? I don't care how many diet chads are there I'm not going to the fucking DMV unless I have to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:04 AM
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Maybe I misunderstand how the IRC works, but why don't you just lay low for a while, drop the annoying jaw boyos shit, and come back under a different name? Either way, drop the jawsus boyos shit. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:01 AM
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what an annoying thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:55 AM
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Oh! You've gotta be Menu! Nice face and bobs either way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:12 PM
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Probably just because I'm half convinced that Groovy is one of my friends from London, and ppdthrownpic looks kinda like that friend minus tats and piercings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:06 PM
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You look exactly how I picture Groovy, but that apartment is way to spacious for London...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:59 PM
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You don't even have a weak jaw lol you just need to hit the gym and get a haircut
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:57 PM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:56 PM
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Hahaha who could it be! You look dope
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:03 PM
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Whoever you are, you're adorable and I like your frog vest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 08:18 PM
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Cool tats!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 08:17 PM
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Come on now, I wouldn't be that obvious! I'm gonna wait a bit to post my own pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 08:15 PM
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You should spam the sub with posts saying this in 12 different ways and claiming that men's love is fake and inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:36 PM
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They'd also be capable of generating truly romantic works of art, which they simply can't beyond a purely self centered perspective, which is as unromantic as it gets. Men aren't capable of creating truly romantic works of art beyond fixating on women's bodies. Therefore henceforth ergo men have no souls and are incapable of love. Phew, glad we got that squared away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:32 PM
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Women think that hate is only about dislike + anger. This shows that women are incapable of true hate. Only manly men know that REAL hate also involves things like finding the object of your hate's ideals disagreeable and considering yourself superior to them. Women's hate is a fickle, fleeting emotion that can only last until a more unattractive prospect comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:20 PM
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Idk about that, but I already kinda have images in my mind for most of the regulars here (at least the ones who share a lot about their personal life), so I'm curious to see how closely people's real appearances would match my imagination!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:05 PM
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Oh, that could be fun as long as it got taken down after purge week.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:17 PM
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I know you're being serious, I just remembered that I don't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:28 PM
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For real?? His posts sound like shit my foreveralone high school friends would say. Well, consider my high school based insults retracted for inaccuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:06 PM
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If it is then I would highly recommend self-rape as a sleep aid. Works every time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:02 PM
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Oh I was about to type up another serious reply like to your last dumbass post but I keep forgetting it's purge week. Anyways, dude, are you capable of producing posts that don't suck? Maybe you should work on passing your calculus midterm and finding a nice girl to ask to prom before you start your next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:58 PM
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Well, I'm challenging that claim. If you are a 5/10, you would be able to attract 5/10s. That's how the market works. You are blaming hypergamy for the fact that you can't, when in fact your insecurity, lack of social skills, and lack of effort on your appearance are so damaging that they are actively detracting from your base physical attributes and bringing your SMV down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:57 PM
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Dude, if you're a 2/10, then yes wanting to date a 5/10 girl is asking too much. Either raise your SMV until you're pulling the girls you want, stick with the 2-3/10s that are actually available to you, or become content with being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:45 PM
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Who is saying that love = desire + chemistry? Who is "women"? One woman you met once? One woman on this sub? I think anyone who's been in any kind of LTR would know that love is more than that, and even more that "doing things for her" and "sticking by her side" (lol). Love is a feeling, sure, but it's also something you build over time as a partnership, and a choice you make to support another person and consider their needs and your needs as one. The fact that you seem to be saying "MY fleetin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:41 PM
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Well, ~I have seen~ women pine for men who dumped them for months or years. Cool, guess that's settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 02:59 PM
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I mean, time and time again I've wondered if men are really capable of love, but I recognize that that's an emotional reaction of my (or my friends') specific circumstances and not something to uphold as a corner of my ideology. It sounds like you got dumped. You put a lot of work into a relationship and it wasn't related. I'm really sorry that happened to you, but understand that the same thing also happens to women every single day. It will suck for a while but the pain will lessen with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 02:53 PM
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Haven't we been over this? You don't need to be a rockstar, you just need to be reasonably cool and fun, and live in an environment that facilitates meeting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:14 PM
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Sure they have it harder in the west, but I personally know several truly short Asian/Indian guys whose success levels range from "does ok, has a gf" to "heartbreaker player." It depends on what else you have going for you, how hard you try, whether you're Westernized or not, and whether you have good social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:09 PM
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Well, humans still evolved out of species where the males were larger and stronger than the females and needed to protect them while pregnant. When we eventually got nice big prefrontal cortices that let us have concepts like "superior" "inferior" and "property," That fact that males often had to protect females probably made them see them as something that is "theirs." So the female must do what the male wants in return for that protection. But then attitudes towards the genders also depends on…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:14 AM
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It doesn't even make you more logical so much as it suppresses certain feminine emotions. Whether it gives you better spatial reasoning or anything like that is scientifically murky, but what it most certainly gives you is more territoriality, horniness, and rage... All of which are feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 03:45 AM
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No I do mean way back when! It's not like men being stronger than women is a new phenomenon. It long predates the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 12:43 AM
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Testosterone doesn't actually make you smarter, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 12:04 AM
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We can't bench press as much. Men value physical might, women are weaker, men look down on women. Everything else just stems from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 12:03 AM
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The irony...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 12:00 AM
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You think women are bigger complainers than men? Have you... have you looked at this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:57 PM
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I'm all for PS if you can afford it and it's done well. Feeling good about your looks could definitely improve quality of life, and may give you a better chance on the dating market. But I'm going to parrot what other users have already said: If you're an incel, there are probably MANY MANY things you could work on that cost much less. Fitness, skin care, a good hair cut, and good clothes are the easiest places to start. Those cost money, but only a fraction of what surgery would cost. Then ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 08:32 PM
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Oh no it was very high effort, just so poorly written and uninteresting that I couldn't get past the first paragraph... with each word I felt my IQ drop until I was basically a twitching sack of flesh on the ground. I feared I might regress to a single celled life form if I kept going
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 06:48 PM
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No I was referring to your post. It was bad. Poorly written. Dumb. The fact that it takes you two paragraphs to explain the unfunny joke doesn't help your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:35 PM
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Samurai man would be fine (or at least not the worst) if he had even a little bit of a sense of humor and didn't comb through your comment history to insult you and make sloppy, out of context gotcha attemps when his jimmies get rustled I mean, damn, lots of people on here are cunts but at least if you get sick of arguing with them they'll let you go and won't e-stalk you for the next few days!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:02 AM
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Rambling, try-hard and incoherent. Not even smart enough to know what gag it's getting at, and not written well enough to be enjoyable from that standpoint. Smacks of middle school edgelord. 1/10 bad shitpost
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 04:43 AM
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Oh shit dude I just started watching GoT. I'd want to be a Dornish noblewoman bc I like hot weather and Pedro Pascal. Political intrigue and unladylike combat training optional but encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:40 AM
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Are you stealing my gimmick? 💸 I was never here 💸
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 12:20 AM
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No, they are not monogamous. But males do help raise young communally. "Cuteness" and "sexiness" do not exist in the animal kingdom. My point is, this: This plays out in nature as well where in non monogamous species a male will invest resources in a child that he is reasonably sure is his, most likely from a immature female Is not at all true, and is an example of anthropomorphisation which animal researchers must be careful to avoid. Other animals may care about paternity (lions, for example) …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 07:36 PM
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Fun fact: In chimps and bonobos, females who have already birthed at least one baby are much more sought after when in estrus than "immature" females or adults who have yet to give birth
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 06:26 PM
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That is simply not true my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 06:15 PM
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Oh my goodness that's... too cute
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 02:16 AM
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bad bot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 01:55 AM
1

"omelette du fromage"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 01:54 AM
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Everyone who replied "me" should be thrown into the arena to fight. There can only be one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 09:05 PM
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I mean, different strokes for different folks. Just because I like it doesn't mean the people who say they don't are lying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 07:07 PM
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INTX for sure. Fucking nerds
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 07:06 PM
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Come to my bridge in the next 20 mins if u want an ass kicking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 07:02 PM
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Nah. That humiliation/degradation stuff can be hot for sure, but I've never been with a misogynist or major sexist and I never plan to be. You can be into weird shit without hating or looking down on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 07:01 PM
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Meh, 3/10, appreciate the effort but didn't chuckle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 06:24 PM
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Her username is a better pun than yours at least
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 06:22 PM
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Hmm that sure doesn't answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 03:06 PM
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Nothing you've said has pointed towards gay men having better relationships, just a better chance at hooking up. And "superior" is a subjective value judgement that means nothing, and with which most straight men would strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 03:06 PM
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About looking for any excuse to hate on women. You'll even agree with feminist talking points if you can somehow spin them into "cis women are inferior."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:47 AM
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Yes, we all know you've watched lots of trans girl porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:44 AM
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So how many successful career women do you know who have killed themselves because of it? I mean, if it's such a common occurrence outside the UMC bubble shouldn't it be a fairly well documented phenomenon? At the very least you should know a few, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:42 AM
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What happened to sluts vs. studs? Are we past that now? Have we moved into a new and more enlightened era of purplepilldebating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 10:34 PM
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Lol, you guys are so transparent. You'll even agree with statements like "girls are shamed for having and enjoying sex" as long as it gives you an excuse to bag on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:51 PM
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Nice, red's my favorite too. Come on though, how is "career women will end up sad and alone and probably kill themselves" anything but a revenge fantasy? Like, yes, my dad's a doctor, but so is my mom. Most of our female family friends are happily married "career women". Women who end up sad and alone because they focused on their careers are in the minority, let alone women who commit suicide because of it. You are essentially saying "Some women behave in ways that I find unattractive? Well if …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:49 PM
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Sure, but there are definitely certain men who specifically talk down to women because of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:02 PM
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No, you're correct OP. Lack of sexual interest =/= contempt. The only time I'd have contempt for an unattractive man is if I rejected him and he wouldn't take no for an answer, or if he just acted like a tool in general... But these things would cause me to have contempt for an attractive man or a woman as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:00 PM
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Also, men in general want you to look up to them and "respect" them in some fashion, and when this is juxtaposed with their actual position it generates contempt in me. Oh, shit, yeah, that's the worst. Nothing turns me into a snark machine faster than a dumb motherfucker who acts like I should grovel at his feet because he has a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:49 PM
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I'll give you that gay guys definitely are more into non-monogamy than anyone else. Especially in WeHo. The gay hookup scene is, like I said, crazy. With trans women, her innate sex drive probably depends quite a bit on how long she's been on estrogen, and wether she still has testes or not. But you could be right, in that even post op trans women who have been on HRT for a long time may still be more uninhibited than cis women, having not grown up with the shame and blame heaped on girls for ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:33 PM
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Estrogen makes you more emotional and sensitive. Emotions can cloud your thoughts, if you let them. You can decide not to let them. Based on the testimonies of trans women that I've seen and heard, I'm forced to conclude that trans women beginning HRT are not used to the effects of estrogen, so the new sensitivity clouds your thoughts and effects you way more than if you were born female, at least for a time. The reason I say this is because some of the new thoughts and feelings that I've heard …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:25 PM
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Again, how many gay/lesbian couples do you actually know well? In real life? I know the gay hookup scene is crazy, but I don't think that monogamous gay couples' sex lives are necessarily any wilder than monogamous straight or lesbian couples'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:17 PM
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Doctor. What's your favorite color?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:13 PM
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Nice revenge fantasy, but how often does that actually happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:05 PM
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Eh, maybe in quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 11:11 AM
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No, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 10:51 PM
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anyone can succeed and failure is solely one's own fault I thought that was supposed to be TRP's thing. Own your shit, lift, learn game, etc. It's mostly blackpill and incel types who believe that success or failure is somehow predestined and totally outside one's control.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:35 PM
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Well that's good!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:08 PM
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Don't you have tons of sex to be having like the non-lesbian rockstar you are? How do you have time to be disappointed by strangers' jabs online when you're busy drowning in pussy unlike all those lame lesbians????
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:48 PM
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What about fitness hos taking pictures of their butts and legs that they worked so hard to build? Is that more respectable than male flexing pics, because building muscle is harder for women than for men? It seems to me that no matter what convoluted logic you use to justify it, you are always going to see dumb male behavior as good and dumb female behavior as bad, simply because of in-group bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:45 PM
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There's no punchline. It's just really obvious that manosphere types who claim that lesbians are sexless don't know any lesbians personally, because if you did you'd know that most of them are not at all frigid. Some of the stuff my gay female friends have told me about their sex lives would make Casanova blush.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:39 PM
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It doesn't intimidate me, no. I think toys for both sexes can be fun for an occasional change of pace or new sensation, but like with porn, I think it's important that people not get dependent. Like, there are some women who actually can't climax without a vibrator! That's nuts! So if it became a problem like that I would find it concerning, to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:31 PM
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You know how I know that you don't know any lesbian couples in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:24 PM
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I think it's the other way around. Lesbians are more likely to be nerdy, because being gay tends to make you feel like an outsider from a young age, and when you feel like an outsider you tend to gravitate towards "outsider" interests. One thing I have in common with most of my gay friends is that we were dweebs when we were young but are "cool" now despite retaining many nerdy interests. It's a learning curve. (edit for phrasing)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:00 PM
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No idea. I think giraffes are a little harder to study in that capacity than sheep, because they live in the wild and move around a lot, so you never know if a giraffe that usually mates with other males is going to wander off and mate with a female while the researchers aren't looking. Whereas sheep are kept all together in a group and watched by the farmer, so it's easy to spot who's mating with who and how often.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:52 PM
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ain't that the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:21 AM
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Never mind, clearly I pick up too many obscure facts about the personal lives of folks on here. I thought your comment about how ClarityofDisaster is not really her SO's equal because she is female was weird because she has said several times on here that she is transgender and occupies a traditionally male role in her relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:53 AM
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Why would/should a person who lives as a man for all intents and purposes automatically take the subordinate role in a relationship with another man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:39 AM
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Something like 60% of giraffe copulations are male on male
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:08 AM
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Do you say this because ClarityofDisaster is female (Well, female bodied) or is this a general statement because you think that every relationship has a power discrepancy no matter what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:57 AM
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It seems to me that none of those things are equivalent to makeup except maybe lifting for men. Because those things are things that both men and women have to do to be attractive, and they are no easier for women than for men. But yeah, I can see getting ripped as makeup for men. It's gender specific, it's a hassle, and it won't help much if you're really really ugly. You're right about it taking longer and being more physically demanding than putting on makeup each day, but look at the bright …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:18 AM
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I mostly agree with you, but have to point out that losing/maintaining weight, having nice clothes, getting a haircut, and being charming are not at all specific to men. Women have to work at those things too if they want a halfway decent partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 07:55 PM
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"Attractive" is a sum of many parts, and in current western society, makeup is simply a part of looking hot. Even a very genetically beautiful woman won't be perceived as attractive by the general public unless she is dressed and styled in a socially acceptable way. The social status that men gain from associating with beautiful women comes from other men's (and women's) perception of that beauty, which is anchored in cultural expectations of personal styling and adornment, which includes judici…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 07:51 PM
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Damn, put down the meth pipe op. I think I read somewhere that gingers are harder to put under for surgery than most. Fun fact..?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:04 PM
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I think it's because BPD girls are very emotionally intense, and very needy. A lot of men like feeling needed in that way, until the more unpleasant aspects of BPD come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 08:30 PM
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But they do. Constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:27 PM
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Keep hamstering bud
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:18 PM
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Rape is definitely more acceptable in some cultures than in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:12 PM
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You can teach anyone any sort of thing. They may or may not listen, but it can't hurt. I think that both men and women, everywhere, should be taught about consent from a young age, because respecting other people's boundaries and knowing how to stand up for yourself are important parts of normal social function. And yes, specifically drilling into kids' heads that rape is unacceptable would be good! Men initiate the majority of rapes, but women hearing it too wouldn't hurt. And frankly, kids are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:54 PM
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Lol it's not corporal punishment when it's against another adult, it's just assault. You think it's funny because it doesn't effect you or anyone close to you, but if a feminist started making jokes about how deadbeat dads deserve to be raped in prison or whatever, you know you'd see it as evidence of how heartless feminists are and how much they hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 01:52 AM
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ Just don't be surprised that the pillosphere's PR is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:27 AM
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haha fair. serves me right for trying to use legal words I don't know anything about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:24 AM
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Yikes. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment, but I would not feel safe in a relationship with a man knowing that he "vibes with" the concept that the closer we get, the more he feels like beating the shit out of me (etc.) Obviously I'm as far from the target audience as you can get, but it's that kind of "poetry" that makes so many people view TRP as a training camp for wife beaters and woman haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:24 PM
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I think the argument could be made that saying that women "could benefit from a good beating now and then" is inciting violence against a group, which is generally considered "hate speech" or at least unprotected speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:08 PM
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I think a mix of masculinity and femininity is generally desired. The exact right formula depends on the individual woman. All the men you cite as feminine are still pretty masculine, but they're young, aesthetically pleasing, and nonthreatening. Tough hard women like tough hard men, and soft gentle women like soft gentle men, but in both cases the man is still considerably more masculine than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:20 PM
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Lol, your girl obviously was saying that stuff because her feelings were hurt and she was trying to guilt/shame you to make herself feel better and you feel bad, not because she wanted to hear about the evolutionary machinations of casual dating. It's rarely that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:25 PM
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It's literally not worth my time. You're basically asking me to dispute your theory of photosynthesis with the starting premise that photosynthesis means that leaves are full of little green men baking pies for the tree to eat. Serotonin and dopamine are only two of many many chemicals that our bodies produce. They work within extremely complex systems of other hormones and enzymes and mediate everything from mood to motor skills to digestive function. They are not not just "feel good chemicals.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:29 PM
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There is no objective measure of high value, but my opinion is also the opinion of the majority in this case. George Clooney is a high value man. He could've had any beautiful airhead he wanted, but instead he married an extremely accomplished human rights lawyer. Not every "high value" couple is that intense, but I think MOST high powered men (these days) go for somewhat high powered women who can keep up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 12:12 PM
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I pretty much only see reds defending abusers, attractive or no. Like right now, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 01:27 PM
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It would also be nice to see people put more that three minutes of research into their ostensibly science based posts, but we can't all get what we want
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 10:51 PM
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Homie I'm not sure what point you were trying to make here other than to inform all of us that you have no idea how neurotransmitters work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 08:37 PM
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Yes, I think this is decent advice for anybody. It's not like you can't work on establishing yourself and work on finding a partner at the same time. Besides, in this day and age most genuinely high value men want a woman with ambitions and desires of her own, excluding tradcons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:06 PM
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Whatever you say dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:51 PM
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I said "inextricable ties to the alt-right." I know TRP itself isn't alt right, but it's part of the same neo-conservative reactionary movement whether you like it or not. You also seem to be under the mistaken assumption that pointless arguing is something I don't like. I do! To me, it's just entertainment. And this is a fun place to do it where people are usually pretty chill and follow reasonable rules of engagement. If nobody disagreed with TRP, this would just be redpillcirclejerk, not purp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 09:46 PM
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Huh? The alt-right, DE, and other related political "movements" have existed for a long time, definitely before I joined ppd.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:37 PM
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If you think that Copenhagen has less left wingers than pretty much any city in the US then I've got a bridge to sell you...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:44 PM
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LOL agree to disagree then, I'd still rather walk around Copenhagen alone at 3 am than NY or DC!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 03:22 PM
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I wish I could from all the way across the internet, it sounds like this is causing you a lot of pain. If you've already taken all the obvious advice (style, hygiene, eye contact, personal space) then I'd recommend talking to a coach or therapist that specializes in social skills and seeing what they can do for you. There are also a lot of books on the subject that may or may not be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 03:07 PM
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a) Who said i'm an anti gun activist. I neither know nor care about guns. b) A lack of sports rifles doesn't make a country a hellhole either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:34 AM
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Guys who are creepy aren't necessarily bad people, but they give a sense of social "off"-ness that signals danger. And then charismatic psychos are very good at not giving those danger signals, and the crazy lurks beneath. Women, like men, can't read minds or hearts, so they have to follow their instincts. And when dealing with creatures as complex as other humans, instincts can lead you astray. Also, let's not pretend that creepy guys are never psychos.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 12:12 AM
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I can't tell if you're joking or actually so far up your own patriotic confirmation bias that you think a lack of machine guns makes a place a hell hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 11:33 PM
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Hell holes? Hell holes like... Denmark?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 08:55 PM
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No, the misogyny, inflexible ways of thinking, and inextricable ties to the alt-right are pretty much the things that I dislike about TRP. Guys learning social skills and how to pick up girls is fine and good. I think most bloops would agree, even though I'm not strictly one of them. But this obviously won't C your V, because your post makes it clear that you think everyone who says what I'm saying is lying or doesn't know their own mind. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 04:19 PM
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Wtf is this. How could women commenting about how hot these guys are possibly know that one of them is an antisemite just by looking? Also your assertion that men are somehow more logical in their attraction and will stop being attracted to a woman because of her behavior or politics is completely laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 04:07 PM
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Who even cares! How about just not being dicks to people who are different? How hard can it be to treat someone who looks like a man/woman, talks like a man/woman, and functions in society as a man/woman like a man/woman, regardless of their chromosomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 11:55 PM
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Many or most men will absolutely discount women for certain physical characteristics. Women will too, and height is only one of those characteristics. Doesn't change the fact that men not gifted in the height department can still do just fine with women, just like women not gifted in the breast/ass/waist/leg departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 11:42 PM
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What's the difference then? I'd say they're pretty comparable except for the fact that slightly more women have an explicit preference for height than men for big tits. Both short men and boobless women can still get dates if they're attractive otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:47 PM
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How did you even come to this conclusion? Like, do you get a boner from seeing any woman with big tits, regardless of her face or weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:35 AM
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Oi, as if the male versions of this post that pop up every couple weeks weren't bad enough. Just be single! No one cares! You're not going to convince anyone that your lonely sandbox is better than the one all the cool kids are playing in, even if (charitably) some of what you're saying is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 07:52 PM
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My personal experience doesn't really matter here, but I have definitely found this to be true in my circles (which are pretty similar to the demographics of the third study). Nearly everyone I know leans heavily on their female friends for help and support, including frat bros who should have all the male friendship they could ever need. And yes, that does include "helping you move" and "driving you places" stuff that I see cited on here are the true markers of friendship lol. I think that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:22 AM
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...The red pill says that women have sources to back up their opinions and men don't? That's a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:04 AM
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I don't think they mean "afraid" in the same way. Men can be afraid of the power female sexuality has over them, they can be afraid of what they'll do to have access to it. But no, I don't think men are placed into physical danger by untamed female sexuality the way women are by men's. It's more like the fear produced by a heroin needle than the fear produced by a live tiger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 01:38 AM
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What's "love?" I can appreciate male sexuality. I find it sexy, or weird, by turns. But as a woman I have to appreciate it kind of the way I appreciate a live tiger. I can look at it and interact with it under very controlled circumstances and think it's the dopest shit ever, but under no circumstances to I want to be near it hungry and in the wild. Women are wary of unrestrained male sexuality because it can be dangerous to us. We, like all humans, value our lives, freedoms, and bodily integrit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 11:36 PM
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Fair enough! Maybe I'm less robotic than I thought, because I strongly prefer the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:36 AM
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That was tounge-in-cheek fam. What I meant was "I'm mostly neurotypical but shy and easily confused by the intricacies of the human interaction." Also, personality tests are fun. Live a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 10:04 PM
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21/F/Large city in US Midwest. This is gonna sound like a humble brag but I honestly find tinder exhausting. Too many people, too many text convos to juggle at once, no way to know if you'll actually have chemistry with the person when you meet or if you're wasting your time. I always end up using it for a couple days, collecting a bunch of matches, messaging a few, and then deleting it again a week or two later. But several of my friends have found great ltrs using it so it obviously has some m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:34 PM
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Lookin' pretty, making a connection, and meeting his advances halfway, mostly. But if anyone here has come to some consensus on what an appropriate amount of extra effort is, I'd love to hear it. I'm trying to get with a recently single friend of mine who seems to be the world's most clueless human man. He has all but stated he likes me in the past but now won't make a move, and a few nights ago he drunkenly confessed to finding me "super cool and intimidating" which I truly dont know what to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 06:48 PM
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I almost never watch romance movies but the other day I was listening to a Radio Lab podcast where Ann Druyan was talking about working on the Voyager probe and how she and Carl Sagan fell in love during the project and I was lit about to cry in the middle of the gym lmao It filled me with emotion because the way she talked about him was so full of genuine love and emotion, and also bc Carl Sagan is fucking dead They are both scientists who are not exactly famous for their beauty so n/a. Oh also…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 05:36 PM
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Yeah, I know that. It's still hypocritical of Mr. Samurai to get pissy at me for responding to his anti-woman gotcha attempt when both of us know he would only ever respond to an anti-man one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 11:05 PM
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People on here single out women as the bad guys every day. Why don't you go rant nonsense at them? You clearly don't have a problem with sexism as long as it's coming from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 05:57 PM
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Lesbians break up more often because lesbians rush into relationships. That's it. Bringing a u-haul to the second date and all that. Gay men don't settle down until they're good and ready, because there's a thriving gay hook up scene and why would you give that up except for a truly amazing partner? Men suck. Women suck. They suck in different ways and for different reasons. The sooner you accept this the happier you will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 05:50 PM
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Ok, so consent is NOT consent "no matter how it's extracted." Look, men are typically stronger than women. A man pressuring a woman into sex, physically or with threats, IS putting her under duress. A woman should not have to successfully fight a man to have her "no" respected. I'm glad that you draw the line at "gun to her head," but what I'm trying to get at is that not all consent is created equal. I'm not saying that men who verbally pressure women into sex are all rapists, but I am saying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:54 PM
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Serious question: If a man holds a gun to a woman's head and says "agree to fuck me or you're dead" and she says "ok," is that just as valid, in your mind, as any other form of consent? How is a man extracting a yes through the threat of physical violence any better or different than just using force to push through her no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:01 PM
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Sorry 4 late reply, but yes: According to Dr. Nahid Toubia in the New England Journal of Medicine: In my extensive clinical experience as a physician in Sudan, and after a careful review of the literature of the past 15 years, I have not found a single case of female circumcision in which only the skin surrounding the clitoris is removed, without damage to the clitoris itself. Also from the World Health Organization: [There is a] common tendency to describe Type I as removal of the prepuce, wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 11:27 PM
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Whether if not it's "abuse" is semantics. Even if you define abuse as a pattern of behavior, Hitting someone once is still assault, it's still illegal, and depending on the severity you still might go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 08:19 PM
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...CEOs and politicians will own up to visiting dominatrixes? Since when?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 06:30 PM
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At this point I'm starting to think that asking RPers to realize that women have lives and experiences as complex and valid as theirs is like asking a chicken to do a backflip.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 12:26 AM
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On what planet does OP live that men don't fall victim to solipsism too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 12:12 AM
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Yeah, I "accept" that biology plays a role. Testosterone is one hell of a drug, as I said in my first post. Feminist explanations are partially right (cultural and social pressures do play a role, I believe) but ignore the fact that some of these pressures are inevitable, as long as women are the ones who give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 10:50 PM
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I said IQ distributions vary culturally, not the number of female Bill Gateses. Men's interests, temperament, and social/reproductive role tend to be more suited to typical "genius" pursuits... That fact does not vary as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 07:17 PM
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Fgm usually does involve the removal of the clitoris though, at least in the countries where it's practiced routinely. Male circumcision almost never involves the removal of the penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 05:09 PM
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Wait wait wait, what Gaussian distribution are you talking about? IQ? Felonies committed? You can't statistically quantify the goodness or badness of a person. IQ distribution does indeed vary culturally, and there absolutely are cultural and biological reasons that there are fewer female "geniuses" that have nothing to do with IQ and everything to do with child rearing, social obligations, and temperament. I dont think you're completely wrong, I do think that many anti male sentiments come from…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 05:06 PM
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Men absolutely see the world in heirarchical terms, more so than women. A great deal of RP literature acknowledges this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 04:23 PM
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A surprising amount of people DO give a fuck about men, including quite a few women, and even some feminists. You know who doesn't seem to? Most men. The "men's problems" that get talked about on reddit aren't even on the radar of many men, or they correctly see them as personal difficulties and not societal problems (ie. "Women only like Chads!"). If I brought up certain MRA talking points to my male friends they'd laugh in my face. But still, if MRAs really think they have a case, they should …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:03 PM
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Well, that's not what I meant, but please do!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 09:41 PM
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Wanna go tell that to all the mgtows as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 01:56 PM
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I mean... I guess. I have a feeling that if the guy complaining about this actually was sexualized like a woman and suddenly expected to play the female role, he would find it creepy and unpleasant, at least if it went on for more than a day or two. Basically though, female sexuality just doesn't work like that. Male sex symbols do exist, and their aesthetics are just as important as anything else. Their sex appeal is recognized by women even if it's not as overt or in your face as female sexine…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:22 PM
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I dunno about the feminist narrative or whatever, but I do think that men who watch a lot of porn are often worse lovers. Less reactive, less willing to go with the flow, more concerned with positions and visuals than sensations. Don't get me wrong, I watch porn sometimes too, if my imagination needs a boost. But I try to limit my consumption because I think that habitual use can be desensitizing and can carve phychological grooves in people wrt to certain visuals and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:10 PM
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I don't know man, you see what you want to see. For sure, trans men who don't go on hormones keep looking like butch women, but after a year it two on t it's pretty hard to tell the difference. They may still carry feminine vocal patterns, but like with trans women, that can be changed with practice. I think the difference between straight men who go for trans women and straight women who go for trans men is that for the guys, they specifically seek out trans women and like them better than cis …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 09:56 PM
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I know several trans men irl and they all a) look and sound exactly like cis men, thanks to hormones and b) Have normal dating lives with normal straight and bi women and basically live their lives like normal straight men. Trans women don't really have that luxury. Because of the effects of testosterone, most of them will always look and sound masculine, at least without extensive effort. People don't really care about trans men because they just don't stand out, whereas trans women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 08:09 PM
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My appearance and general demeanor are very stereotypically feminine, but: -I love beer, much more than cider or wine -I like heated debates about politics and stuff -I have a pretty high free floating sex drive. That is, I get horny all the time, not just in the presence of a hot man. -I'm not bisexual, but I like femininity/androgyny in men. Pretty male faces attract me just as much as handsome ones, I like sensitive & nurturing personality types, and I think that jewelry, makeup, long hair, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 07:48 PM
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I dunno dude, I think that guy probably has issues beyond his race and height, most likely social issues of some kind. But it's hard to tell what someone is doing right or wrong without knowing them well in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 04:56 AM
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Purple pill, but I only straddle fences a couple times a month. Jk. I suppose I'm blue leaning and often "team woman" on here, but I'm happy to give RP style advice to my male friends. Other than that I'm pretty normie irl, neither shrieking blue haired harpy nor future seltzer sipping homemaker. I'm friends with lots of artsy rebel types, but I'm in a sorority and shit. Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 01:59 AM
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Hah, I was just watching It's Always Sunny and thinking this. What a great show.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 01:23 AM
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No, he was just cool. You'd be surprised how far "cool" can get you in a college setting. He had good social skills, and along with being an artist he was really into rap/hip hop culture and was a decent rapper/slam poet. And he had 10/10 grooming/style. And he was in a frat. Don't get me wrong, none of this kept him from being constantly pissed about how much easier tall white guys had it on the dating scene. He had a massive Napolean complex and was really nasty to his first serious girlfriend…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 01:15 AM
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Why does it have to be one or the other? Makeup is widely considered one important aspect of a polished appearance for women. Women wear makup on dates to look good for their date. Women wear makeup to job interviews as a part of professional dress, with no intention to seduce the interviewer. Do you comb your hair and wear pants only to attract women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:05 PM
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Dude, one of my good friends from college is literally a 5'3" Vietnamese guy who in one year managed to rack up a higher n-count than all three of his tall white roomies combined... He was fit, dressed well, and was a talented artist, but what helped him most was having an utterly delusional level of self confidence and not being afraid of rejection. Going mostly for artsy chicks helped as well. If you really want to be successful with girls and are willing to put in the work, you can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:30 PM
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"Look, your honor, she wasn't supposed to escape, okay? If her family had just minded their own business everything would've been fine. Rape is perfectly natural! Women even fantasize about it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:00 PM
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Can you link to an example of this? I've literally only heard people say this on MGTOW and red pill blogs, nothing feminist or mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 02:56 PM
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I bet that argument will hold up real well in court
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 02:03 PM
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Maybe in dating, but he was talking about sexual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:53 PM
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Drug dealers have drugs tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 02:32 AM
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When it comes to normal dem vs repulican stuff, not a lot... When it comes to neo nazis, I think many many girls would be turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 02:27 AM
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Every girl on the planet Once a young man with an 88 face tat tried to make small talk with me in a train station and I nearly shat myself lmao. Perhaps he was too blinded by my blond hair and blue eyes to notice the big ol' Star of David hanging around my neck, maybe the 88 meant something completely different to him, but my first thought was still more "WOW WHAT A GREAT DAY TO GET MURDERED" and less "ooh sexey rebel bad boy." So, overt white supremacism as an aphrodisiac... YMMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 02:24 AM
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For the male circumcision thing, I think that educating doctors would be the first line of action... Convincing them to not circumcise by default when a baby boy is born and to to dissuade parents who might want it done. Also, getting sex ed groups and child psych experts to discourage it would help change parents' minds before even entering the doctor's office. I don't think you'd have much success banning it outright, but changing cultural attitudes towards it would reduce its incidence in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:53 AM
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Man, I have a father figure and I still have no idea what I'm doing most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:11 AM
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That we're not going to keep dating lol. Thinking anything else, unless you also want a non-exclusive relationship, is just symptomatic of scarcity mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 07:54 PM
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Male, whether this is a D&D type universe or just a replica of 21st century earth. I can lift big things, I can grow a beard, I can't get pregnant, I can chase poon without being judged for it, and people care about what I have to say. As long as I train up my fitness and charisma stats, it sounds like a pretty sweet gig!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:47 PM
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good luck trying to find men taking the time to ridicule women for putting themselves out there Say what now? Guys online screen cap and make fun of unattractive/unreasonable women's dating profiles all the time. Spend 5 minutes on r/choosingbeggars or r/cringeanarchy and you'll find more than a few. Even r/creepypms, though mostly men, has a few choice screen caps from creepy women. And those aren't even touching on the manosphere subs!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:58 PM
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Haven't you seen all the Chad-Hate around the manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:36 AM
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Ok, so, I still think that's silly. Men do things that are easy all the time, for simple enjoyment. Video games, for instance. Ime, most actual "well adjusted masculine men" realize this, and have no real issue with sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:02 PM
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If you only mean that female promiscuity shouldn't be particularly valued, then sure. But you still haven't explained why it should be actively disparaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:56 PM
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Well, I disagree that it's logical in our current cultural climate. With the world as it is today, there's no reason to shame women for sleeping around, and doing so strikes me as pointless and reactionary, especially if you are a man who desires casual sex himself. However, you are allowed to think whatever you want about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:35 PM
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That's still a double standard. Not everyone is going to share your opinions on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:51 PM
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Sure, people can bring whatever signs they want, but that's not the reason slutwalks were created. And it's not like those signs are totally unfounded... There is still a double standard around male and female promiscuity, whether you think it's justified or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:38 PM
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When people have ibs or crohns we do make fun Who's "we?" Making fun of chronically ill people is still considered a dick move by most. But yeah shitting is easy and no one praises it, so is being a slut and we have marches for it Slut walks aren't about praising people for being sluts lmao they're anti sexual assault protests. They're called that because of the trope of excusing rape by saying something like "She was dressed like a slut, what did she expect?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:27 PM
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Should we shame everyone for shitting then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 07:52 PM
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I get what you mean, but I'm saying that there's no use for these attitudes in the modern era, so why resist the fact that they are changing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 07:15 PM
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Do you know what that word means?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 07:13 PM
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Well, you ARE the only user on here (that I know of) that brings up how gay relationships supposedly have the lowest breakup rates and lesbian ones supposedly have the highest every other thread. It's pretty obvious that you were referring to yourself in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:37 PM
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It's not just you dude. I'm fully aware that you bringing up lesbians all the time is a "gotcha" thing more than anything. You were saying about solipsism though..?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:17 PM
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I know! Which is why some folks' fixation with them is so weird
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:01 PM
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Allrighty, lets look at the exchange leading up to my comment: peer_reviewed_source: His statements are confirmed. [deleted]: By whom? drok007: Objectivity obviously. To which I replied that no, "objectivity" does not confirm his opinion. I don't need to preface every flippant remark I make with "IN MY OPINION" just so some pedant doesn't get triggered looking through my comment history days later. It was in the automod. The automod is for jokes, opinions and OT remarks. Not everyone takes them …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:37 PM
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Because your statement was hyperbolic and silly. I have no obligation to reply to every person in a given thread just to prove myself to one user.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:29 PM
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You have a history of holding women to a lower set of standards than you hold men to. That is entirely the product of your imagination. See my reply to your comment in the other thread. the likelyhood of a woman being a dumper vs a dumpee ...means next to nothing on an individual basis. Frankly, the circumstances of this particular relationship's beginning and end are unusual enough that you'd be very hard pressed to guess them. We dated while living on different continents for the better part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:25 PM
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Here's the difference tho: The user who I said those words to did claim that their opinion was the objective truth. I did not claim that "reddit men are delusional" was anything other than my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:13 PM
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I don't. It was a different user saying that. I think that if your partner asks about your n-count, you should disclose your n-count truthfully. And if your partner asks whether you think all women are stupid ugly cunt whores, you should also disclose that truthfully. I just think that the latter scenario is unlikely to happen in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:10 PM
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Just A&Aing in the automod like a law abiding citizen my dude. No need to comb through my post history and reply to everything that rustles your jimmies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:56 PM
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Someone's obsessed ;) Pray tell, how do you know me well enough to know that I "discarded" him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:54 PM
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Do you spend this much time combing through the post history of all the girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:52 PM
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No I think that if you believe women are all ugly cunts who are only good for sex you should probably say that right off the bat, preferably within minutes of meeting her. Bitches love that shit ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:14 PM
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So, basically you're saying that women deserve to be ridiculed for having casual sex because it's easier for them than it is for men. By that logic, men are disgusting and unclean for doing any of the following: -Deadlifting 300 lbs. -Achieving 7% body fat. -Donating sperm. -Getting a job in STEM. -Becoming a parent while also maintaining a high powered career. But of course we don't shame men for those things, because that would be fucking stupid. So it's really not about "ease," it's about cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:54 PM
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How many lesbians do you think are even on this sub, considering the massive hate boner that manospherians seem to have for them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 05:33 PM
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16, F, Purple. Lost it to my HS boyfriend, who was also a 16yo virgin. I guess that's pretty young, but I loved the guy and still remember it fondly :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 10:30 PM
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Nah. But in high school before the whole "nice guy" thing was so overplayed, I had a conversation with one of my guy friends that went something like this: Him: "Why don't girls like nice guys?? I'm nice!" Me: "Well it's good to be nice but that can't be the one single thing you have going for you. That's boring and lame." Him: "Yeah true, [girl he liked] is nice AND pretty AND smart AND good at a lot of stuff." He and that girl are still dating I'm pretty sure. ...TRP confirmed?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 01:40 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished :/ Good on you for helping a kid in need though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 01:24 PM
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Guys on Reddit are delusional. In other news, water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 01:04 PM
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Voice is actually huge for me, with both men and women. I will actively avoid people with annoying voices. On the flip side though, a soft, deep voice can make even an objectively weird looking man super sexy. 👂🎶 I know it doesn't matter to everyone as much as it does to me though. One of my friends sounds like Christian Slater's lesbian sister and he still gets dates. Possibly related (and possibly tmi...) Anyone else really like having their ears touched during sex? I wonder if there's a corre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 09:35 PM
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Depends on what you mean by mental illness! I once dated a guy who had depression in the past. It was fine, ended for other reasons outside of either of our control. I have ADHD, and I don't think it has ever impacted my love life at all. But dating someone with a major personality disorder, or unmanaged schizophrenia or whatever, seems like a deeply terrible idea. Don't stick your dick/puss in/around crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 08:36 PM
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Well, a) Because I'm not on the dating scene right now and b) Because I don't interact with very many modelesque men on a daily basis. I live in the Midwestern US at the moment, not New York or LA. But even if I was on the NYC dating scene, I'm not sure what exactly I would gain from pursuing men way out of my league. I'm not a man, I don't need my partner to be the most physically beautiful human I could possibly get, I just need him to be attractive TO ME and have other good qualities. You wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:21 PM
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I'm sure this hypothetical Very Hot Man would find my hypothetical vagina absolutely thrilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 02:13 AM
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If he is much hotter that me, he can do better. Men in my social circles almost never date down in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 01:51 AM
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Female. I don't know if I've even been on a date with anyone WAY out of my league (in either direction) but the guy I dated freshman year of college was definitely less conventionally attractive than me, and it really didn't make much of a difference. He was confident, I found him sexy, and it was kind of flattering to have people congratulate him on landing me lol. I'm not sure what I'd even do with a guy who was way hotter than me. Probably be suspicious of why he wanted to date me at all!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:49 PM
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Wait are you like parodying Lookism lingo or are u just loudly typing about jaw law for kicks
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:06 PM
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Frankly, anyone who thinks a preference for hairlessness is "inherent" knows jack shit about history, anthropology, or how fashion works lol. Redpillers who think it's natural simply because it's their personal preference are falling victim to their own solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 10:09 PM
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I would call what you are doing "the rationalization hamster" more that anything. Prestigious jobs are considered markers of quality for millions of people. Good looks are considered valuable to almost everyone. You just don't want to admit the fact that some perfectly "high quality" men don't really care about women's body hair. I'm not even sure why you're so personally invested in contradicting this claim... Do you think that disliking body hair automatically makes you high value or something…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 10:03 PM
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Because there's no arguing with you, dude. You don't give any reasons for WHY the way women smile is so awful as to be evil, (How evil? Comparable to murder and kiddy diddling, or what?) it's just the way you feel. The basis of all your "arguments" is that women are bad, case closed. You consider them, their bodies, their personalities, their sexualities, vile. Not for any reason, or at least not for any good reason you've given, they're just bad, because they are. So, I'm not going to argue wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:49 PM
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And dont even get me started on the way most women smile. Could it possibly be that there's nothing really wrong with women as a whole, and that you, personally, just don't like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:15 PM
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You can't just decide that something is objectively true because you want it to be. You need some kind of proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 04:53 AM
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What does any of this have to do with the points raised in the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 09:26 PM
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Because that's a useless mentality? If I'm also high SMV, I probably have "better" options too, that doesn't mean I can't take a particular shine to a guy. It's that "spark" and the chance at genuine connection that makes him better than my other options, and I think it works the other way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 08:14 PM
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Why is this so important? What did you mean by this exactly? Well, it comes across as quite tone deaf to keep hitting on a woman who's clearly not interested, no? Doesn't every woman know in the back of her mind that there are thousands of women out there who are (1) as hot as her or (2) hotter than her and who could turn the man on (1) as much as her or (2) even more than her? Sure, but that's 100% irrelevant to any man's specific attempts to woo a woman. If you're in a bar, and a beautiful wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 07:36 PM
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What about the fact that desperation is a turn-off, though? That's confusing. Desperation and desire are two different things... In fact I'd say that in the context of women's sexuality, they're polar opposites. Women's sexuality is a bit narcissistic, in a way. For most women, it's important that a man's desire is specific to her. Desire, as I'm using it, means that a man wants this particular woman. He finds something about her so intoxicating that he's pursuing her to the exclusion of all oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:54 PM
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Very very important, to echo what everyone else is saying. Being desired is pretty key to becoming psychologically aroused for me and most other women, which is just as important as physical arousal. I'm sure that most men prefer an enthusiastic partner, but they clearly don't need it, as evidenced by the existence of "starfish sex" and the fact that many porn stars look like they'd rather be doing their tax returns than getting fucked during a scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:43 PM
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Seems smart to me. Gay and lesbian friends can be particularly helpful wingmen since they exist in a separate sphere of the SMP and aren't competing with you directly. I'm guessing TRP didn't like it either because it's too passive, or because TRP leans conservative and the Scary Gays™ have no place in their forum. Probably a bit of both, but mostly the latter, since there's been plenty of stuff about using your network as a pickup assist on TRP before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 03:02 PM
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I wonder what's more realistic... I can't tell if you're trying to imply that meeting lots of decent women is unrealistic or what, but to me neither of these things seem outlandish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 04:21 PM
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It can come from either side, but it's linked to the X chromosome. So men only have to have one copy of the gene to display it, while women have to have two, hence why male pattern baldness mostly only shows up in men. If they could fix that genetically, then they could also fix color blindness and all other sex linked genetic traits, but we'd need some Gattaca level shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:15 PM
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easily offended types Kettle, pot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:14 AM
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I mean ur post is very weird m8. There's porn everywhere on the internet, why are you trying to get ppders to provide it for you under the guise of debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:03 AM
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Um
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:15 AM
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Sure, I agree with most of that. I'll even admit that her stories were pretty goofy and extreme, but there are comments like this all over this thread even for less colorful lists. Like, where were you (and others) in the Q4M thread when guys were talking about how they've been cheated on, DB'd and terrorized by seven different gfs? Is that something they're "doing to themselves"? Is your baseline assumption that all women are so crazy that there's no avoiding it? What's the disconnect? Why (acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:14 AM
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I've never encountered the scenario you described, but I have seen the opposite (ugly fat guy with beautiful girlfriend) several times. So... I guess male incels don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:06 AM
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omg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:53 AM
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I forgot that women can read minds and predict when a man will turn crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:49 AM
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Jesus, that's fucking terrible. Glad you made it out ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 08:10 PM
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It doesn't disgust me, it more fascinates and intrigues me. It's kind of alien in it's ferocity and the number of weird ass forms it can take. Dealing with male sexuality as a woman is kind of like having a giant floating jellyfish that follows you around all your life. You can't really tame or control it, but you can choose to feed it and pay attention to it or not. It's mostly harmless, but after you see a few too many other women get stung by their jellyfish, you learn to be cautious. Some pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 08:00 PM
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If they were "really bdsm" books they wouldn't have sold nearly as well lol. They're soft, fantastical bdsm books that appeal to repressed housewives without challenging them too much or grossing them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 07:40 PM
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I'll take all that over necrophilia and public maturation any day of the week lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 10:49 AM
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People on this forum talk about "women" every five seconds. If "women" are a thing then so are "men." It's just generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:20 PM
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You're definitely not alone in that. I don't know if it's a liberal vs. conservative communities thing or what, but most people I know who sleep around have much higher standards for dating than hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 11:10 AM
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I mean, I have. And it's not always a lone hr director who has absolute control over all hiring decisions. But if you look at the links in the op, it's pretty obvious that hiring discrimination against women still happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:33 PM
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Edit: Double post
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:01 PM
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Did you not read the OP? One user on this forum admitted to it directly, and the three articles linked blow that comment discuss hiring discrimination as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:00 PM
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It's not that common. But the fact that the person quoted in the OP is copping to it directly, plus the articles beneath, show that it's not unheard of either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:58 PM
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Why exactly is being a slut bad, or at the very least worse than being a manwhore? Please provide an actual reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:56 PM
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Do men have to be creeps? Is basic public ettiquite too much to ask? Or perhaps you mean men who get accussed of creepiness unjustly (ie. for looking the wrong way at the wrong girl) or for reasons they can't help (deformity, autism)... Then, what about women who are accused of being sluts unjustly (ie: for dumping the wrong guy), or for reasons they can't help (mannerisms, large breasts)? Your argument doesn't hold up. Also, putting that aside, genuine sluts directly benefit men by sleeping wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:53 PM
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Good lord with these responses. Apparently if a man loses a job opportunity to a less qualified woman, that's the greatest injustice on earth, but if a woman's job application gets tossed in the trash because she's a woman, that's totally fine!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:51 AM
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To be fair, you could make many similar arguments about slut shaming. If TBP is a hate group because one blue endorses creep shaming, then TRP must be some kind of ultra mega hate group, because almost every red is down with slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:04 PM
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Yeah, once! And honestly I still don't know if it is/was a mistake lol. One of my good guy friends has a very sexy/flirty vibe about him. He makes really intense (but not uncomfortable) eye contact, he takes a genuine interest in everyone he meets, and he's bisexual, so he really does treat men and women exactly the same. He and I hit it off right away and I developed a huge crush on him, but never acted on it because he had a long term girlfriend. I was all "Ohhh he totally likes me, if he didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 05:06 PM
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What's strangest to me about RPW/i is the fact that it is not at all concerned with what is in women's best interest. TRP/MRP say all the time that they're about what's in men's best interest, women's feelings be damned. And I respect that mentality, to an extent. So you'd think that RP for women would be about what's best for women, men's feelings be damned. But it's not. It's all about men's feelings, tiptoeing around them, and forgoing your own needs in favor of theirs. It's about creating Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:31 PM
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Hey, if you want to go around trying to convince people that persuasive language and physical violence are morally equivalent, be my guest. I don't think anyone but a few manospherians who long for the good ol' days of Might Makes Right will be convinced, but you can go ahead and try. You and I, however, will have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:14 PM
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No, I'm gonna go ahead and say that words are always a preferable option to purposely harming the person you claim to love. It's not extreme in any sense to say that domestic violence is wrong. One again, I'm going to say: If not beating your wife is weak, then weakness should be our standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:08 AM
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If a man spoke disrespectfully to his wife, and his wife decided to take a baseball bat to his head, is he responsible for these inevitable consequences? Or do men get a free pass for violence because they are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:01 AM
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If a man verbally goads a woman into confrontation and she breaks a bottle over his head, does he deserve it? It's just the consequences of his actions, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:50 PM
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Going nuts and beating up another human being is a strong answer in your opinion, then? If being an adult and using your words is weak, then let us all be weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:44 PM
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Keeping my hair long, shaving, butt-focused workouts. Long hair is a pain to deal with, shaving irritates my skin, and I could be focusing on my upper body for maximum utility rather than my lower body for maximum bootyliciousness. I think I would still dress nicely, wear some makeup, and take care of my skin, because presentation matters in non-sexual interactions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 01:18 AM
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Yes, men have the right to reject women for whatever reason they please. Who exactly is stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:09 PM
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Not really. Catcalling usually ranges from mildly annoying (getting honked at, construction worker complimenting your tits) to genuinely frightening (man following you for three blocks yelling obscenities). Mostly it's not too bad. What I've really had problems with in the past is guys cornering me on public transport and trying to "flirt." That's a whole 'nother creepy, invasive can of worms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 04:45 PM
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Dude you're literally just proving their points. 5'3" and 110 lbs is small, no matter what you imagine it to look like in your head. Trying to convince tiny women that they're fat to give yourself a sense of superiority is a bad look.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 04:34 PM
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There are plenty of pro feminist men's activists, they just don't gather on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 03:29 PM
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Second wave feminism and the modern gay rights movement started around the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 03:28 PM
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It's taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:40 PM
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No, I don't. I don't think this is very common behavior. My own mother had an actual accidental pregnancy when she was dating my dad, which she aborted with his knowlege and consent. I know she feels pretty rotten about it but I totally understand why she did what she did. I'm just glad she and my dad were married and financially stable by the time I came along!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:31 AM
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If "by taxpayers" you mean "by insurance" then of course. Easy access to contraception keeps the unwanted pregnancy rate down, which actually does save taxpayers money in the long run. The same arguments that could be made for the female contraceptives could all apply to male contraceptives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:24 AM
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Guys care about dating a beautiful woman with status, because it raises their own status to be associated with her. One can easily observe this out in the real world. Maybe YOU don't care, but many men do, whether they realize it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 11:49 PM
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The same behaviors that make you charismatic, funny, and quirky to your friends can make you seem creepy, cringey, and overbearing to random strange women. It's unfortunate, but true. But, maybe the main problem is that you are unattractive, or at least not attractive enough to compensate for your "off"-ness. Are you happy with that? It sounds like you're not. So what are you doing to change it? It's way easier to make yourself more physically appealing than it is to change your personality, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 11:18 PM
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Improving your looks definitely couldn't hurt, for sure. Lifting, skincare, posture, stylish clothes, and a good haircut can turn just about any ugly duckling into a passably attractive swan. However, you are underestimating how easy it is to scare off women you want to date with poor social skills. Lots of ugly people have romantic success too. Even ugly and odd people can do okay, as long as they have talent and charisma. But being ugly and odd and uncharismatic (aka poor social skills)? Yeah,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:50 AM
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No matter how high functioning you are, autism will make you come across as weird. People might happily be friends with you and find your weirdness charming, but for dating, even being a little socially "off" can ruin you. Then the problem becomes that having autism will also blind you to the exact ways that you are "off", making them harder to correct without serious coaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:13 AM
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Yeah this is a bit of a "watch what they do not what they say" situation, for those who say that men want submissive women. Men like the idea of a submissive woman, so they get one, then they dump her when they realize how much dating an empty shell sucks. Everyone prefers a partner with personality and backbone, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:02 AM
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They could voice them, and provide examples to boot, and still at least one RPer would show up to voice that "That's nor really RP" "You just don't understand" "It's harsh language to get your attention" "They don't really mean XYZ" etc etc ad inifinium
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:59 PM
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What do you think "scientifically" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:51 PM
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TBP and TRP are the main "factions" that are supposed to be arguing here. You could say the same about TRP. But it's PPD, not Incel Debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:34 PM
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If you had a little boy and a little girl and the little girl was clearly smarter than the boy, better at math, quicker on the uptake etc, what would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:02 PM
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I have a theory that guys who say this are just abrasive or unpleasant people whose same-gender friends tolerate them better than random strange women. People who are generally kind and warm never seem to have a problem treating men and women the same, ime. The secret is treating everyone equally well, not equally badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:37 PM
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"WGTOW" exist they just dont use Reddit. But a good number of women do "give up" on men and society at large and just do their own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 02:52 PM
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Lolwhat? These are all just annoying habits, other than the first one. You are totally allowed to tell your gf "Quit comparing me to your ex or we're over." It may be a deal breaker if she doesn't stop, but it's totally fixable. Do I have "broken hands" because I bite my nails sometimes? No! It's just a gross hand related habit and the person I'm dating can ask me to knock it off any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:11 AM
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I once bought him a $35 webcam because his was busted, and he bought a €30 pair of pants for me because I forgot my wallet. Romance is alive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 03:20 PM
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It's meant as an insult, but it's not a bad thing. It just means you look "boyish" or too well groomed. But lots of girls like "pretty boys." Just look at the popularity of boy bands and anime dudes amongst young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 03:16 PM
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I hate these threads but what the hell 5,3,4,6,7,6
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:44 AM
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Not to get my snowflakes everywhere, but I couldn't deal with an overly cocky or domineering man. Cocky people annoy me, and I would feel antsy and trapped in a relationship with a overly dominant man. In both cases, I would not be able to respect a man who doesn't respect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 09:13 PM
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34/36 Some of these were hard! I think the fact that some of the pictures were taken from magazines and such makes the expressions harder to read. Flash photography causes the pupils to contract, and the women's makeup obscures their expressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:43 PM
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Out of curiosity, why do you think that her selfish behavior and ADD were in any way related?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 09:41 PM
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Having gay sex isn't the same as being gay. Straight men in prison may have sex to assert dominance, or because they are desperate for intimacy/release. Once those men get out of prison, they won't suddenly prefer men over women. They are still straight. What you seem to be forgetting is that people have been trying to change sexuality for decades. Even today some kids are forced to go through conversion therapy, despite study after study saying that it doesn't work. The idea that this applies o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 04:26 PM
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Most people's sexuality isn't THAT fluid. Especially not men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:58 PM
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Do you genuinely think that men are capable of voluntarily "going gay" because they find today's women lacking? Do you realize this goes against pretty much everything we scientifically know about sexual orientation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:04 AM
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Those two post are both by redpill vanguards. AKA guys who are tasked with the upkeep of redpill canon. If things coming from them aren't core RP, what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:06 AM
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Agreed. It's amazing how difficult it is to get men on here to understand that different women doing different things is not "hypocrisy."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:20 PM
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PPD is lots of fun but I'd rather jump into a wood chipper made of sharks than date most of the people on here who complain about being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:59 PM
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Alright, to be fair I did forget that it's illegal to transport it across state borders. But it's not illegal to drive to Colorado, smoke, and return. You are a drama queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:49 PM
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Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 04:32 AM
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The only men who think that women are frigid by nature are men who have never inspired arousal in a woman. Don't worry buddy, you'll get there some day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 04:23 AM
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Is there any evidence that shortness, as a trait, is actually detrimental to the gene pool? And if shortness really is a scourge that must be eliminated from the human race, then wouldn't it be more efficient to have short people breed with tall people and have potentially taller children than for short people to marry only other short people and have progressively shorter and shorter children?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 01:02 AM
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If wit comes so easy to you maybe you should try it on here sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 12:13 AM
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Rape is the new Evil Lesbians for you now, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:58 PM
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Fuck no. I'd see it as a plus- He knows what dating men is like, and can adjust his approach accordingly. Ime, bi men are also more likely to be comfortable expressing femininity in certain ways that straight men usually won't, which I enjoy. Disclaimer: I'm pretty involved in the queer community through my gay/bi friends and family members, and my taste in men is both varied and omnivorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:49 PM
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I think you are 100% pulling that out of your ass. I can't find anything anywhere on the internet that says that the Kvinnofrid law contains that stipulation, and I'm not even sure how it would be enforced if it did exist. Lots of people from countries where soliciting prostitutes is illegal go to Amsterdam for sex tourism, and lots of people from all over the world go to Amsterdam for normal tourism. And since the Dutch police won't arrest either set, no one will ever know the difference. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:37 PM
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So you've never been to Sweden and don't know any Swedes. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 09:02 PM
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Forgive me if I care a bit more about terrorism, domestic violence, poverty, and all the other problems that Saudi Arabians face more than the fact that it's illegal to solicit prostitutes there. The only thing standing between Swedish men and legally hiring a prostitute is a €75 plane ticket to Amsterdam. If you can afford the services of a fancy legal prostitute, surely you can afford a weekend away to get your freak on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 08:38 PM
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That's your big gripe with Sweden? People are dying my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:54 AM
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Most of my Swedish friends did come to the US or UK at one point or another... Only to return as quickly as possible when their task was done lol. For software engineering, I can totally see moving to the US and staying there. For general quality of life? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:50 AM
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Wouldn't bother me unless it was a habitual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:52 PM
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For a RPW? Probably a traditional, conservative family man. That's the type of guy they always talk about trying to attract (last I looked), and why their dating advice is pretty useless to those with a liberalpussycuck fetish like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 01:27 AM
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Well, you know what they say about guys with big teeth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 12:52 AM
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Pretty much never. I don't really have the type of personality where someone's gonna just test their luck with texting me out of the blue, I don't like texting except for logistics and I'm not friendly/flirty/open enough with guys for them to think they have a chance unless they actually do. If someone is flirtatiously texting me, then we've definitely already had IRL interactions that would make it appropriate. So, don't worry too much about a grand flirt-texting extravaganza going on around yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 12:02 AM
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Judging by the photos I don't know that he could do much better in terms of looks lol, she's stunning for her age and he... isn't. Couples get sick of each other for all kinds of reasons that have nothing to do with being able to get "younger/hotter/tighter" strange, even if that is a bonus. I imagine some women who marry older men feel the same way. Anyways, it's a pretty weird case all around. These two definitely don't represent the average couple, nor even the average older woman/ younger ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:33 PM
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If there were no social or legal restrictions at all, including on casual sex... I think 16 would be my absolute lower limit for sex, but 99% of teenage boys look like infants to me so realistically it would be more like 18+. For relationships I still wouldn't go much below my own age (21). My absolute upper limit for sex would be maybe... 48, if he's really hot. Older than that and you're as old as my dad, and that's weird. For a relationship I still wouldn't go over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:16 PM
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Seems like good advice to me, especially if you're a sexual beginner. All the "just be submissive!" and "just go caveman on her!" advice would make for really lackluster sex if you don't have any mechanical knowledge to back it up and are unwilling to listen to your partner about their actual likes and dislikes. And ime, being in a LDR where watching each other masturbate and talking dirty is kinda all you have most of the time makes for some truly excellent sex once you're in the same room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 04:57 PM
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Lifts are for pussies. 4 inch stiletto heels or bust
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 03:57 PM
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Different people have different opinions. But if you want a comprehensive history of feminism and the sex industry then get off reddit and go read a book. smh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 01:34 PM
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I see lots of attractive men on the day to day, but I'm very rarely taken aback by a man's beauty. It does happen, but it's usually guys who are unusual looking in some way, or beautiful in a kind of feminine, ethereal way. Conventionally attractive, masculine guys are nice to look at for sure, but they rarely get the aesthetic "WOW" reaction from me. Probably a nice sculpted torso, yeah. Women may be less obvious about their drooling, but muscles and other displays of male strength have a defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 04:08 PM
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Porque no los dos
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:14 PM
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If you still think this is true you haven't spent enough time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:12 PM
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Sorry, must gave missed this reply. But anyways, I don't think you're disagreeing with me as much as you think you are. I'm just saying there's some dispute about the greater variability of male scores. There's probably something to it, but there are dozens of IQ tests out there and it doesn't show up on every one. The Flynn effect is exactly what I was referring to when I said that more schooling for girls, and more women taking on mentally taxing jobs, may account for the fact that women's ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:46 PM
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when a woman gets raped, or goes through a breakup, there are all sorts of social support networks for her. Everyone is there to help her. Government, church, school, employers, all fall over themselves rushing to help a woman in need. If she's super lucky, sure. Maybe women are more likely to have these kinds of support systems, but a) Plenty of men do too, and b) Not all women do. I'm not really convinced that my friend's story would have been any different/worse if she was a man. Her brother …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:28 PM
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You know spices are a thing right? Maybe the life of a stud would be easier if you added some salt n' pepper to your meal prepped food.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:04 PM
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Hey this is pretty good
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:06 PM
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Look, I agree that men who are hurt by women deserve sympathy, and that there are certain men's issues deserve more attention. But one of my best friends was repeatedly raped by her older brother when she was a small child only to have her family take his side when she told them about it as an adult. It fucked her up for a very long time, but she never developed a complex about men as a whole. If she can get through that without ever once spewing hateful nonsense about men, then Johnny RP can ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:09 PM
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My mamma always said I should've been a lawyer...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:13 PM
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how have you not seen the nonsensical shit men on this forum post daily
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 02:39 AM
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holy mother of god this thread is a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:31 AM
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When have you ever heard any of these said un ironically on PPD? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:29 PM
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So straight men, lesbians and senior citizens are all your enemies? Sounds like an interesting action movie
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:25 PM
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She said she's happy, and she's talked about a long term SO on here before. Why u gotta hate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:31 PM
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"RP isn't pro rape!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:26 PM
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So if a man promises fidelity to a woman and then cheats on her, does he hate women? Betrayal is a hateful act, after all. Is that woman then justified in projecting that "hatred" onto all men and assuming that even the ones that pay her no mind actually hate her?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:54 PM
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This has been proven, it isn't theory. If you look at my links, you'll see that it has only been shown in some surveys, in some areas of intelligence. It most certainly has not been "proven" for every IQ test and every area of intelligence. That isn't how IQ works. The human mind is surprisingly flexible, and susceptible to all kinds of influence. If that isn't how IQ works, then how do YOU explain the fact that the mean female IQ has risen faster in the past 50 years or so than the mean male IQ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:52 PM
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Never can with some on here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:08 PM
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...Wasn't there literally an article on AVFM that said just that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:45 AM
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Yeah, I remember when this came out. Totally bizarre, totally inexcusable. But definitely not the opinion of the vast majority of feminists. If I recall correctly there was a ton of backlash after it came out from MRAs and feminists alike. Just goes to show that shitty people exist all over the gender and political spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:40 AM
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Not wanting to fuck someone doesn't mean you hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 10:51 AM
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No, I don't, at least not without more evidence. Mice aren't humans. There's a reason lots of medical trials that work on mice don't work on humans. Anecdotally though, I look like a small female version of my dad and my bf looks like a large male version of his mom, so that's pretty cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:40 AM
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I think everyone is hypergamous, in as much as everyone wants to feel like they're getting a great "deal" on their partner. Everyone wants to look at their partner and say "damn am I lucky." But this means different things to different people. Doug Lisle calls this "the magic 10%" and claims that in an ideal relationship, both parties are fulfilling their "hypergamy." I think generally men care more about beauty and women about status, but I agree with OP that there are many factors at play, inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:15 AM
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I didn't realize this was some big mystery... I thought it was pretty basic knowlege that sexual reproduction is advantageous because it allows for lots of genetic recombination which lets a species test out new and exciting genes that give it a better chance of survival. Yeah I don't think there is any universal standard of attractiveness, but certain traits indicate better health and fitness (facial symmetry, skin quality, body size) and signal fertility/virility (w/h ratio, large breasts, fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:24 AM
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Not even touching on the other stuff, IQ distributions are changing all the time. It's (maybe) true that there's more variation in males' scores in some areas, but it's not such a crazy difference that there would be absolutely no women in intellectually rigorous fields without government intervention. It also varies region to region. IQ is surprisingly susceptible to social influence. The gap between the average male IQ and the average female IQ has closed or even reversed on the Raven's Progre…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:13 AM
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I literally knew someone was going to say that hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:24 AM
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Yeah, agreed. I don't really try to talk about stuff like systematic bias on here because reds just truly do not understand it and do not want to. Your statement that inspired the op seems pretty uncontroversial to me, but many on here completely balk at the idea that the historical mistreatment of a group might have repercussions today... Or even that any kind of historical mistreatment existed. I think it mostly comes down to level of education and whether you grew up in a left leaning or righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:47 PM
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Aw this one's actually pretty cute
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:22 PM
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Caught in a landslide No escape from reality Open your eyes Look up to the skies And seeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:16 PM
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That would be great as long as girls could also also be upfront. Like this. "U want some fuk?" "No, Ron." I don't know if the SMV would be much different. Less attractive guys might have a harder time, since they couldn't use pick up tactics to get girls. Yeah the friend zone would probably be less common and more self inflicted, since you'd get your answer right away. Anyways I just really love these bird videos. Strut.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 06:34 PM
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Most women have sex in exchange for sex. If a man wants to spend money on a woman, that's great, but it's 100% his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:54 AM
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Blue flair
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:53 AM
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Nobody restricted women to go build a home, to go hunt animals, to not protect themselves. At that time women couldn't do it. Are you talking about prehistoric times? I'm referring more to times when women were restricted from working and making money- That is, times when money (and cities, and brothels) existed. If you're taking about cave men, I agree somewhat, but "society" (if you can call it that) was very different when we were nomads. If they didn't want to marry and have someone share th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:48 AM
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Man's Role in Modern Society is to Serve Women Good. Jeeves, bring me my furs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:56 AM
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Obviously it's because women are more likely to get the kids and not loose money in a divorce. But thank you for making this post, maybe now all the folks on here who like to rattle on about how much more loyal and loving and pure of heart and wonderful to their spouses men are (because they initiate less divorce) will finally shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:54 AM
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Men can say whatever they want in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:50 AM
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she can't make money, she doesn't have a home, she can't hunt, she can't buy bread the one's that didn't have a husband either died out of poverty, starvation, kidnapped and sold to brothels, kidnapped and raped until death None of this sounds like women had it in any way better than men. Men could at least fight for their survival. Women (even according to you!) had to just cross their fingers and hope for the best. They literally had no choice in the matter. Because of the restrictions placed …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:49 AM
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You'd be seen as a douche, sure. But most women wouldn't see it as you stripping yourself of your basic humanity. You'd still be perfectly within your rights to tell them to fuck off if they got too handsy. So why isn't this the case (according to OP) for scantily clad women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:35 AM
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I don't think this is what normally goes on in men's minds when they find a woman attractive. I think most men have no problem seeing women as people... sexy people. But it sounds like OP thinks it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:32 AM
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I agree, but I'm asking OP. His post reads like he doesn't think this is possible. I want to know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:29 AM
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I agree, but I'm asking OP. His post reads like he doesn't think this is possible. I want to know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:28 AM
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That's not a strawman, that's what you just said: "She isn't showing anything about her as a person etc." I'm asking WHY. If seeing a woman as an "object" doesn't change how you treat her, there'd be no point in making this thread. Why is it strange to you to treat a sexily dressed woman with the same basic respect and decency as you'd treat a conservatively dressed one or a man? That's all I'm asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:27 AM
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Um. I'm sure for a man, its great to be told you have tons of potential and need to get up and make something of it. For a woman, it's not great to be told that you have no potential except popping out babies. That's the problem with these "inspirational" RP posts: They can't make it JUST about how great men are, they have to take a cheap shot at women along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:08 PM
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Why can't a woman be seen as a person and as a sexual being at the same time? Why does her sexuality cancel out her humanity in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:58 PM
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...Do you know where you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:50 PM
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Is this the real life Or is this fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:29 PM
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No shit dude. I didn't say men want power for no reason, I said men want power because of access to sex and resources. Where did I quote a course I took? I linked a post from TRP, a Wiki article, and an article by a scientist I respect (which you didn't read, I'm guessing.) Anyways, I presented my evidence. It sounds like you're unwilling or unable to come up with a counter argument, so I guess we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:28 PM
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Explain to me how that disproves the idea that men think in terms of power and hierarchy. They do. You'll have to do a lot more than fuck cacti to prove otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:11 PM
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That's great for him (seriously, he sounds like a baller), but I think we both know that isn't the case with rps. He even said his online comments were born out of his "frustrations with dating" etc. It seems like you're very invested in Fisher being an super cool dude because he created TRP, but like I said, if he's an alpha, then alphahood has a pretty low bar for entry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:08 PM
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Sure, everyone wants freedom, but men are very interested in power. Men don't just want power, they need it, in order to maximize their resources, access to sex, and yes, freedom. It's men who divide the world into hierarchies, not women (usually.) Just look at TRP: How to be "Alpha" in the Male Social Heirarchy This wiki page posits a theory for how social dominance is organized. Granted some would say it's Marxist claptrap, but it certainly shows that social power is of great interest to some …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:56 PM
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If "in a position of power" is literally the only criteria for alpha malehood then yeah, he's golden. But RPers claim that women just can't resist an alpha, and somehow I have a hard time imagining this guy as a pussy magnet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:08 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 03:06 PM
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No? It's just funny that your idea of an "alpha" is a very average, unsexy politician with a reddit account.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 03:04 PM
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C'mon dude. Even if men aren't consciously aware of it, you're going to have a tough time convincing anyone that many don't see themselves as "above" women, regardless of individual women's achievements or personal qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 02:59 PM
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I don't see that as a common enough occurrence to "drastically alter" anything, no. Women should not do it, of course! No one should be able to force anyone else to have a child. But most babies are born by mutual agreement, as they should be. Again, I'm not really sure why you think women are forcing men to impregnate them at such a rate that male bc would change much of anything, except for decreasing the number of accidental pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 01:05 PM
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It's not like women are out in droves trying to get pregnant from unwilling men. Most women are super paranoid about unwanted pregnancy. They, and I, would welcome it if men could also have some of the responsibility for preventing pregnancy. We still wouldn't be able to let down our guard completely, because no birth control is perfect and men could lie, but it would be a weight lifted none the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 12:31 PM
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Why couldn't any of these be honest? Different women have different preferences. Shocking, I know. The only one that I would side-eye is #3 because that seems very unlikely. The other three seem like perfectly reasonable statements that DIFFERENT women might make about their height preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 12:19 PM
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I don't think this is actually true. I read in some science mag a while back that it's roughly 50/50, which would align with my personal experiences in the LGBT community. I haven't noticed a particular glut of trans women compared to trans men anywhere except television. That said, I'm open to other ideas. Does anyone have a source for the 1:3 ratio proposed in the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 12:16 PM
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McDonalds employees who don't post dumb shit online and look like their names are Doughy McAverageperson certainly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 12:07 PM
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You probably don't care, but many people don't particularly want someone with views like this influencing law and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 11:02 AM
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Well, there you go. If this is what an Alpha is, then I guess women aren't clamouring for alpha dick after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 10:59 AM
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We understand when we are being condescended to. It's usually obvious when a man considers himself "above" me by virtue of his gender, and it ain't cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 08:48 AM
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Eh. I think any argument about who has more rigid standards of beauty imposed on them is ultimately rooted in solopsism and the (physical) inability to see things through the other gender's eyes. Fwiw though, I see WAY more ugly male/ beautiful female couples than the reverse, so take heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:52 PM
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Insecurity isn't a gendered trait imo, men and women just tent to express it differently. Your post probably does apply to some women, and possibly more women than men, but I would say it's similar to the number of men who are deeply flawed and just completely delusional about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:49 PM
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This is a weird question and everything OP says just makes it weirder
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 11:46 AM
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A strange man? Absolutely nothing, and that's the honest truth. Maybe a twinge of jealousy if he's really hot, though this has never happened. A guy I know and like? Yeah, that would sting, because he's hitting on her and not me! I wouldn't be too caught up on the "less attractive" part though. Maybe he has weird taste, just isn't into me, knows her and likes her personality, etc. Her being less attractive would probably lessen the blow in fact: Instead of thinking "Sigh I'm just not good enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 11:35 AM
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It was something I read a while ago, I'll see if I can dig it up. Steven Marquardt's "Beauty mask" has existed for some time though; you can check for yourself how closely many "ugly" people align to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:44 PM
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That sounds like the opposite of "women are children." But I suppose "Women get emotional but can largely handle their own shit" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:29 PM
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Since when is C3PO female??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:20 PM
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Haha you look kind of like a guy I know from uni! He's good looking, but his personality is a total boner killer unfortunately :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:06 PM
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I think you overestimate how much people care about one comment. You were just wrong, its ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:12 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:15 PM
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I don't disagree, but the guy on the right is fake. In real life, the guy on the left could work on himself and substantially improve his chances with women, no photoshop required. Isn't that what RP is all about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:07 PM
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So... You disagree that the guy would look better if he treated his acne, got a haircut, and lifted? Who exactly is giving bad advice here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:53 PM
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Ok, sure, but here's the thing: Hundreds of thousands of years of sexual selection have made it so that very few people today are truly genetically "ugly." Most people's faces, if they grew up with adequate nutrition and without too much stress, are surprisingly close to the golden ratio proportions of facial beauty. After that, it mostly comes down to health, personal care, and intangible attributes like confidence, wit, and style. The guy on the left will never look like his imagined perfect 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 10:53 AM
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I dont see why not, if you go to a competent doctor and you can afford it. Some subtle changes can do wonders for a person's face. But I think it's sad that people feel the need to change/remove ethnic features to be attractive in society's eyes... My mom's parents made her and all her siblings get their big Jewish noses done, and although I don't think she cares that much anymore, I know it was a bit of a sore point in their relationship for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:31 PM
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You know Les Miserables wasn't a documentary, right? Lots of people DON'T feel sympathy for prostitutes, which is why the get mistreated, raped and murdered with alarming frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:55 PM
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There are so many definitions of chad on this sub, you might as well as "what is love?" or "what is the meaning of life?" By your definition, almost any young man who isn't completely revolting to look at is or has been a Chad. Every man any woman has ever dated outside of sugar daddy relationships is a Chad. I once described my current SO as a Chad on here (I was bragging a bit, but it's not like my bf is some top 1% supermodel, just tall and cute) and the fellow I was arguing with (about wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:17 PM
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If her getting an ugly haircut is causing him THIS much angst, and he can't talk to her about it, then the relationship has more problems than long hair can solve. Also, hair fucking grows back. Personally, I wouldn't cut my hair in a way I know my SO hates, but he would have to tell me for me to know this. I would want him to be honest if he didn't like some change I made, though I would probably consult him before doing something as extreme as a buzzcut. He should break up with her if he wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:50 PM
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One of my former good friends is a 5'3" Vietnamese guy. I don't know if he ever really got over his height-based insecurities, but he did fairly well with women whether he realized it or not. In the year and a half that I knew him he had 3 or so ONS's and eventually got an attractive gf who was completely enamored with him. (Who he ended up treating horribly and dumping, but that's another story.) I think the things that contributed to his success were: * Being a talented artist, sharing his wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:30 AM
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So, let me get this straight: You believe that, men, and only men, can suffer. Women are not capable of suffering, no matter their circumstances, simply because they are women. A man who is depressed or has difficulties deserves compassion, a woman who is depressed or has difficulties deserves ridicule, for no reason other than that she is a woman. Explain why I and everyone reading this shouldn't just dismiss you as a crazy person?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:24 PM
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Is this a low self esteem, "I dont want to belong to any club that would have me as a member" kind of thing? Like a woman entering into a relationship with you automatically makes you lose respect for her? Kind of tragic, if true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 06:58 PM
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I think the reason for this is that if a man has any common sense, he'll buckle down and work on himself instead of continuously whining about how hard he has it. I can certainly forgive a guy for being frustrated, but if he complains about his frustrations ad nauseum without doing anything to change, the problem lies with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 03:34 PM
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Not sure what it "means" either, but it is a fairly pervasive pattern for the women on here to acknowledge that men are individuals, and for the men to view women as a monolith. Might just have to do with the demographics on here (and the influence of "AWALT" talk), since I haven't noticed this so much irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:39 PM
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Well, I have turned down very attractive men before because their politics were incompatible with mine, but some women really dont care. It's not a hard and fast rule or a major gender issue and you really don't have to try to make it into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:34 AM
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So that's a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 11:04 AM
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OP weren't you an angry incel dude like yesterday?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:17 AM
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Are you a woman? How could you possibly know this based on "experience?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 09:02 AM
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I do prefer taller guys, but I'm 5'3" myself so really anything above that is a-ok. I had a huge crush on a guy in high school who was only like 5'4". Turns out he was gay but oh man did I try. However it's worth noting that most of the guys who've pursued ME have been really big and tall, including my current bf. I think a lot of big guys kind of fetishize the physical contrast between me and them, since I'm really small and delicate looking, for lack of a better term. Which is fine by me!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:04 PM
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As notice, I do not have 90% of this issue of arguing semantics with men. Your fellow men are much less likely to argue with you at all. RP men (aka most men on here) will agree with you reflexively because you are coming from a similar worldview. Like, how do I even convince women that it's not a feeling that I'm going off of? I don't think I can. There's little actual feeling in this not novel post, but that doesn't seem to matter. Where are you getting this idea from then? The studies posted …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:04 AM
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Yeah, I'm saying that even if you don't ASK for consent you're still getting it, unless you literally don't care whether your partner wants too fuck you or not. "Consent" just means the person is ok with the activities occurring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 09:45 AM
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..?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:27 AM
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...You are literally shifting the blame for you not being able to argue worth a damn onto women as a whole. This is a debate forum. If you are shit at debating, git gud. Learn to present your points in a clear, logically sound way stemming from some kind of basis in reality. Don't passive aggressively complain that you are losing arguments because you are "too logical." Logic is great, but stating your feelings as if they are facts (what you are doing in this post) is not logic, nor is it a soun…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:24 AM
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Ahem It is an inherently flips coin Female trait to...spins wheel employ the Broken Window Fallacy. This is extremely good and helpful, and women's naturally feeble brains let them achieve it easily. Men SHOULD employ the broken window fallacy, but they are just too GOOD and NOBLE and LOGICAL and it really gets in the way. But no, no, this is not about how disgusting and inferior women are, this is about how we men can LEARN from them. I love women. Anyways, don't ask me to logically defend my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:11 AM
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What a lot of people don't seem to realize is that "getting/giving consent" for sex is something that everyone (who's not a psychopath) does, whether they realize it or not. Almost everyone wants their partner to enjoy having sex with them, and almost everyone is going to give/receive some indication that they want the sex to continue. "Consent" does not have to be verbal to exist. It just means you are OK with what is happening. The only way that "consent" ruins the mood is if you're trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:09 AM
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Hoverboards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:05 PM
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"...Asking for a friend."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 09:51 PM
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