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For one thing, "wifey" is adding a y to the word "wife" to make it "cute" or "little". "Hubby" is just a shortening of the longer word "husband".
/r/MensRights12/07/17 11:54 AM
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Popular doesn't necessarily mean good. Humor is totally subjective so yes, everyone buying tickets to those tours thinks that type of comedy is "good". That doesn't mean that the comedy is clever or original. And yes, I am a "humor snob", aka comedy nerd, that's kind of my point. People who are really into comics have higher standards than Joe Blow who thinks Larry The Cable Guy is hilarious. You may call someone who thinks Bud Light is gross a beer snob. Does the fact that Bud Light is so popul…
/r/PussyPassDenied16/03/17 02:36 PM
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I don't think any comedy nerd would list any of them in their top ten comics right now. Obviously they have mass appeal, you have to in order to do arenas. But is that what good comedy is about?
/r/PussyPassDenied16/03/17 11:31 AM
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The thing is that selling out arenas is not really a good thing when it comes to comedy. Once a comedian starts doing arenas it means their comedy is so basic that it appeals to the lowest common denominator of people.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/03/17 11:00 AM
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Alright, I'm done. We are going in circles. Thanks for trying to explain your views.
/r/MensRights26/01/17 11:59 PM
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Not nitpicking. You can't make an analogy and then partway through change what each part of the analogy represents. So abortion IS ok if there's a percieved threat to the mother even when she consented to the sex? And the rape exception can be used even of there is no percieved threat? Just trying to clarify your position. Individual rights are not the same as "the freedom of a society." If everyone was free to do whatever they wanted it would be anarchy. You right to swing your fist stops at th…
/r/MensRights26/01/17 09:56 PM
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In the bungee jump analogy the company would be the father not the baby. Consenting to sex means you can't take legal action against the person you had sex with, it does not mean you are consenting to have a baby. Not that hard to understand. She didn't come forward at the time, that's the point. So you would have to take the woman at her word if she was drugged? I'm pretty sure I stated that the child was harmless several times. I apologize, let me clarify. A child, WHO IS POSING NO THREAT, wan…
/r/MensRights26/01/17 09:03 PM
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No, I understand the point you're trying to make, you just keep making false analogies. Yes, having sex means you are accepting the fact that you may become pregnant. That is where your analogy ends. Once you get injured or pregnant the "release form" doesn't make it so you can't receive medical care. So how are you going to tell if a woman who is 2 months pregnant was raped? Please enlighten me. Really? You think it's fine to murder an innocent, harmless child just because they wandered onto yo…
/r/MensRights26/01/17 11:48 AM
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Ok, release form. I want to bungee jump, I sign a release form saying I acknowledge that the bungee company won't be held liable in case of injury. I know there's a risk of injury. I also know that if I am injured the bungee people will call an ambulance and get me to a hospital. When you have sex you know there's a risk of pregnancy. But you also know that if you get pregnant you can go to the doctor and end the pregnancy. Signing a release form doesn't mean you consent to becoming injured and …
/r/MensRights26/01/17 01:14 AM
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You DO expect people to have sex even when they don't want a baby. Yet you also say that having sex, even with multiple forms of birth control, is implicit consent to have a baby. So you're saying, "I expect people to consent to having a baby even when they don't want a baby." How does that make sense? You find out that you're pregnant weeks after intercourse. Are you saying you would only allow a woman to have an abortion if she went to the police station soon enough after her rape to have coll…
/r/MensRights25/01/17 09:33 PM
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Humans, and some other animals, have sex for pleasure. To expect everyone to ONLY have sex when they want to produce a baby is like expecting everyone to only eat plain salads and chicken breast. Rape kits are for evidence collection, what do they have to do with abortion? Gonna ask again, why is it ok to kill someone just because their mother didn't ask for them to be there?
/r/MensRights25/01/17 03:36 PM
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Why doesn't a child of rape deserve to live?
/r/MensRights25/01/17 03:30 PM
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Why do the choices of their parents have any affect on the rights of the child? Why does a baby conceived by rape not have the right to life? Why do you think a woman who is on birth control is consenting to have a baby in her? Let's use cars. Driving a car can lead to an accident. Even if you wear your seatbelt and are a defensive driver things happen. Would you deny people in car accidents medical care because they knew crashing was a possibility when they decided to drive? This is your argume…
/r/MensRights25/01/17 11:45 AM
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But it wouldn't be for protecting what is his or hers. A person breaks into their house and leaves a completely harmless baby that is posing zero threat to them or anyone in their house. They don't feel like going through the hassle of calling CPS so they kill the baby for convenience. You even said earlier something about if the baby was posing a threat it could be murdered. But the baby is NOT posing a threat. There is no difference between a fetus conceived via rape vs one conceived via conse…
/r/MensRights24/01/17 09:58 PM
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You keep using invalid analogies. The person breaking into your house would be the rapist, not the baby. If the person breaking in leaves a baby in your house you said it would be ok to kill it. That baby didn't do anything wrong and is posing absolutely no threat. Why is it ok to murder a harmless baby just because you didn't consent for it to be in your house? I agree that men should be able to sever all ties with any of their spawn before birth if they don't want it. If there were a legal met…
/r/MensRights24/01/17 06:04 PM
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So any arguments about murder and killing children are null and void. The only variable that makes abortion ok for you is consent, it has zero to do with the fetus's rights. You think that even if a woman is on two forms of birth control she is consenting to become pregnant when she has sex. Since this started as a men's rights issue, let's look at that side. Shouldn't men, by your logic, have to pay child support for any child they father no matter what? Since they consented to being a father b…
/r/MensRights24/01/17 05:18 PM
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So in the case of rape the rights of the fetus are null and void. Even though the fetus is innocent and poses no threat to the mother, you are ok with it being murdered? You are ok with letting women decide to murder their child just because they didn't consent to sex with the father?
/r/MensRights24/01/17 04:16 PM
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Wait, so is there a rape exception or not? You seem to have made a pro-choice statement there saying it's for the mother to determine. Yes, abortion includes terminating the life of the fetus. The only reason it does is because a fetus cannot live outside of the woman's body. As I've said, if someone invents an artificial womb we can talk about the rights of the fetus to continue to live outside of its mother. As it is, it is a woman's right to remove any organism from her body that she doesn't …
/r/MensRights24/01/17 11:40 AM
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How does a child of rape pose a danger to the mother? As I have reiterated many times and you have yet to actually refute, you can not force any person to give their body parts or fluids to another person. Even if you were already giving it to them unknowingly, once you find out you can stop doing it. If you have been donating blood and it's been going to your child without your knowledge, and once you find that out you stop giving blood, no one can force you to keep giving blood. Others may thi…
/r/MensRights24/01/17 01:09 AM
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So, you do think it's ok to murder children in some situations. I just wanted to clarify that. Yes, you should be responsible for your choices. Someone who is using birth control is choosing not to be pregnant. In the few cases whem birth control fails, why is the woman responsible for that failure? You do not live in reality. You can not expect all women who don't want children to be abstinent or undergo elective surgery. Unwanted pregnancy will always be a part of human life, and women will al…
/r/MensRights24/01/17 12:16 AM
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You didn't answer my question about the B&E analogy. If a man breaks into a woman's home and leaves a baby in her living room can she kill the baby? Or at the very least put it outside on the street to die? She did not consent to that baby being in her house. Abortion is currently legal, thank gods. Making it illegal would increase the birth rate. Abstinence only education doesn't work, people are always going to have sex, and women are always going to end up pregnant when they don't want to be.…
/r/MensRights23/01/17 11:27 PM
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Ok fine, since we're arguing semantics, I have found definitions on both sides, Websters defines it as both an unborn person and a person who's been born. So you van call a fetus a child if you want. It doesn't change anything.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 11:18 PM
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No, it would be like if someone broke into your house and left a baby there. Can I kill that baby since I didn't consent to it being in my home? If the fetus has rights and killing it is murder, then killing a rape baby is still murder. But you're saying the murder is justified because the woman didn't ask for it to be there. Again, it's not up to you to tell people whether they should be having sex. We live in a wonderful world of birth control, and safe abortions when that fails. Pregnancy is …
/r/MensRights23/01/17 10:56 PM
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A child has to have been born. We call them fetuses when they're still in the womb.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 10:44 PM
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So, what you are saying is not that abortion is murder, just that women should have to carry a full pregnancy if they choose to have sex without first having sterilization surgery. Why would a fetus produced via rape have fewer rights than a fetus produced consentually? I misspoke when I said that fetuses are granted rights at viability. That isn't technically true. The point is really that the baby needs to have been removed from the mother and not be dependent on her fluids in order to be cons…
/r/MensRights23/01/17 10:16 PM
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Well, it's below any age. It is sort of a negative age, since we start measuring age once someone is born. That has nothing to do with anything.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 09:43 PM
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Fetuses aren't children.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 03:57 PM
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I agree, it is arbitrary, therefore it shouldn't be legislated. Medical professionals and the women themselves can make their own decisions. I guess I missed it because that isn't a refutation of what I said. course you have to provide medical care for your child, that's not the issue. You can not be forced to donate your own bodily tissues to anyone, including your own children. If your child will die without a new kidney and the only one that's a match is your own, you still cannot be legally …
/r/MensRights23/01/17 03:56 PM
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You can fight for men's rights to disown a child. More power to you. But why does that fight need to involve taking rights away from women? The two are related yes, but for you to say that women don't deserve something just because men don't have it is ludicrous and childish. We should be trying to raise everyone up to the same level of reproductice freedom, not bring everyone down to your level.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 12:23 PM
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Again, it doesn't matter the reason. You can't force a woman to remain pregnant when she doesn't want to be.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 11:29 AM
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You're right, generally viability comes at around 25-26 weeks, but some babies have severe medical problems that mean they won't survive outside the womb. 98.7% of abortions occur before 24 weeks. Any abortion that happens past this point would be done only if the baby is discovered to be unable to survive outside the womb (ie missing half its brain) or if the mother is going to die otherwise. That is why laws should NOT be telling people when their fetus is viable, it's a very personal issue be…
/r/MensRights23/01/17 11:28 AM
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I don't know where you got that 95% number, the source you linked says 98.3% were elective, 30% being for economic reasons. Being forced to have a child you can't afford is more than an inconvenience.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 04:49 AM
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Passing through the vagina doesn't give you rights, becoming able to live outside lf the womb does. You simply cannot force a person to sacrifice a part of their body for another person. As I said, if they ever invent an artificial womb and replace abortion with fetal transfer, then we can talk about the rights of the fetus on its own.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 04:45 AM
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It's not arbitrary and it's not a matter of convenience. Pregnancy and chilbirth can kill a woman. Should a woman have to risk death to bring an unwanted life into an overpopulated world? I think not. Adults have sex. Birth control fails. You can't tell someone who gets the flu that they can't take Nyquil because they should have gotten the flu vaccine in the first place. Or even better, you can't withhold Penicillin from someone with an STD because they didn't wear a condom. In America we do no…
/r/MensRights23/01/17 04:28 AM
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Well, when someone invents an artificial womb and men can take all responsibility for the baby and the woman doesn't have to experience pregnancy, then we can talk about giving fetuses rights. Until then, as I said, you can not force any person to do anything with their body that they do not want to do.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 12:24 AM
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I should have said 'person' rather than 'human'. A fetus is human yes, it is not a person and does not have legal rights. You would be breaking the law if you did not provide medical care for your child, yes. But even between parents and children, you can't force a parent to donate bone marrow or blood or a kidney to save the life of their child.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 08:28 PM
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You can fight against circumcision, against the draft, for rights to disown babies, etc. Do you want to punish women and bring more unwanted babies into the world just to make it fair? To bring everyone down to your level instead of trying to rise EVERYONE up?
/r/MensRights22/01/17 01:36 PM
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Nope. Not gonna go down that road. A fetus is not a human. Even the evangelical christians of the mid 20th century agreed that the baby doesn't have a soul until birth. Even if we consider a fetus a human - which we don't - you still cannot force a person to undergo any medical condition for another person. You cannot force someone to donate bodily tissue even if another (already born) person will definitely die without it.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 01:33 PM
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He means the fetuses. He's a moron.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 01:30 PM
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Women's mothers can also have them killed, that's a ridiculous thing to say. Go on and fight for your right to disown a baby or to end infant circumcision. I disagree with the draft all together, no gender should be subjected to that. What extra privileges is it that you think the women marching today want? As far as I know they are afraid of the repeal of Roe V Wade, the war on Planned Parenthood (on organization that also helps men), and the acceptance of misogyny and sexual assault. Women are…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 04:16 AM
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I agree that it is wrong to force a man to pay for a child they didn't want. You should be able to disown a child at any age. But, if you take abortion rights away from women it means that even if both people in the relationship don't want the baby the woman would have to carry it to term and put it up for adoption. The man gets away none the worse for wear, and the woman is forced to endure one of the worst experiences a human can go through, physically. You can not force anyone to maintain a d…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 04:10 AM
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Because more unwanted babies born into poverty is great for society.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 03:55 AM
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[You mean like this?] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disownment)
/r/MensRights22/01/17 03:53 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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