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It does mean it's in their satirical section though it's satire
/r/MensRights26/05/18 07:29 AM
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Keep going. Next part is "/humor/" The New Yorker is probably mainly known for their cartoons, followed by creative writing. They have other stuff too I guess
/r/MensRights26/05/18 07:26 AM
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Well I know it's not satire ...? but it is
/r/MensRights26/05/18 07:17 AM
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Good post Straightforward breakdown of how it's relevant and important Sober tone, essentially free of charged rhetoric what are you doing here dude
/r/MensRights23/05/17 01:02 AM
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but i'm saying if you're worried about the law, there's no reason to go for the face when you could easily go for the grapple
/r/MensRights20/04/17 12:52 AM
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"man I don't want any trouble with the law, I better just punch this woman in the face"
/r/MensRights19/04/17 11:25 PM
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so who went Their Own Way in this story?
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 06:51 PM
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jesus christ dude
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 06:21 AM
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feminists are institutionalized? when did this happen?
/r/MensRights16/03/15 03:03 AM
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i mean as tempting as it is to pin it on a hate group that targets us, black people don't blame racial profiling on Neo-Nazis
/r/MensRights06/03/15 05:35 PM
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hahahahaha holy fucking shit dude (so it's an echo chamber + tips? i guess all subreddits are technically echo chambers tho)
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 10:39 PM
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what does that even mean I clicked on "introduction," isn't that the basics?
/r/askTRP05/03/15 10:31 PM
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is TRP seriously just about getting a nut off? I thought it was all about improving yourself or some shit
/r/askTRP05/03/15 08:08 PM
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"women seem to have super levels of hamster" Are people basing this on past relationships or something? Almost none of the women I know do this much, except to justify their own actions- and everyone hamsters then.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 08:07 PM
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Man I'm just trying to figure this shit out, I thought that's what this was here for.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 08:06 PM
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so why is this woman-specific though? men also rationalize dumb, illogical shit all the time- I do it every day weirds me out man
/r/askTRP05/03/15 08:24 AM
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Didn't see that, but hamster ain't on there EDIT: Nvm found it, reading now. why did ctrl+f DO this to me
/r/askTRP05/03/15 08:21 AM
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I checked the introduction, only thing about women was something about how women should pursue happiness. I also checked some of the articles but no hamsters
/r/askTRP05/03/15 08:16 AM
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I mean, he's talking primarily about dominant tendencies, which we currently understand to be most closely associated with testosterone, and submissive tendencies, which we currently understand to be most closely associated with testosterone; while many females with "dominant" tendencies and males with "submissive" tendencies have been demonstrated to exist, there is a correlation between unusual (for your sex) testosterone/estrogen level and having these "reverse" tendencies. Likewise, being "t…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 07:18 AM
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i'd think some sort of Grand Moonshiner's Council meeting would make more sense than an AA meeting, but maybe I'm missing part of the analogy. but i am surprised this subreddit was supposed to be secret, I see people talk about it everywhere, positively and negatively. but like, surely TRP is here for SOMEONE to read, no? why post arguments and theories online, if not to convince people of things? otherwise, wouldn't subscribers just be, like, an unintended consequence for some kind of collectiv…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 07:03 AM
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Everyone knows what McCarthyism is, but that didn't start until well after Rand had established herself as a political ideologue and popular writer- she got big before we were out of WWII, Stalin was still "the good guy" as far as the USA was concerned. I admittedly did misunderstand though; I wasn't twisting your words, I thought the "that" that started off your comment referred to Marxism itself rather than to that perceived dichotomy. Sorry about that. But like, even back then people knew the…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:53 AM
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man, the red pill's changed a lot since it became Reddit-based, back on 4chan the OG Red Pill (which come to think of it, might be totally unrelated to this one except in spirit) was all about trying to convince people with charts and macros and shit. Well I definitely appreciate this current attitude of specifically not trying to force the idea on others- I've never seen a feminist try to convince an anti-feminist of their views (except trying to convince them that they already ARE feminist, bu…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:40 AM
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wait, who's saying TRP is using its sexuality to get free shit?
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:29 AM
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Wait, so does "male genes" only refer to the Y chromosome? Because in that case, would there even be "female genes," since their X chromosomes are the same as ours? Otherwise, the genes wouldn't be characteristically male, right? I'm just a little confused, are they saying genes on the Y chromosomes mutate faster than genes on the other chromosomes, or that mutant eggs are produced more frequently than mutant sperm?
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:13 AM
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I didn't even say anything about corporations, man. I understand why corporatocracy wouldn't be a thing if we had a totally free market, my gripe has nothing to do with capitalism. I do think a free market would necessarily favor unethical or destructive business practices, but I'm basing that on the fact that the closest thing we have to a free market is the black market, and there wouldn't be an associated criminal element if it were free, so that might not happen; I'm open to new points on th…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 04:59 AM
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fun note: this kind of language-abuse was increasingly common in Orwell's day, that's why he included an exaggerated version of it in his book
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 04:30 AM
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but "amuse" isn't the opposite of "muse," no dictionary defines "amuse" that way. amuse: 1. cause (someone) to find something funny; entertain. 2. provide interesting and enjoyable occupation for (someone). but if they were, there'd be a lexicological precedent- "a" being a latin prefix meaning "without," and "muse" coming from the Greek-derived Latin noun "musa," the origin of muse. unfortunately, it's a coincidence anyway- "amuse" comes from the Old French "a" roughly meaning "to" (think of it…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 04:18 AM
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I mean, that was the point of the original comment, but the point of the tangent was whether TRP is trying to "sell" ideas in the same sense feminism is Which doesn't mean that TRP and feminism are otherwise comparable, but if one of your functions is to address problems in a given ideology, you're (implicitly) proposing your own ideology that accounts for the problems you address. you're doing the same TYPE of thing as said ideology's movement when they sell their agenda. That doesn't imply TRP…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 04:05 AM
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i mean, but if you propose an alternate version of reality to feminism's version, doesn't that mean you're also trying to sell that version of reality?
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 03:50 AM
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I mean obviously biologically-rooted behaviors are the baseline, but surely that's not the foremost determinant in how people act in social situations- otherwise, cultural and social differences would be totally overshadowed by what we have in common with the men of the world, right? Like, behaviorally and ideologically, wouldn't a woman from Norway likely have more in common with a man from Norway than with a woman from Saudi Arabia?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 08:52 PM
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ok I'll take your word for it (not into the "university speaker series" scene and I don't plan to start now), but what does any of that have to do with feminism trying to sell people something?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 08:38 PM
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what? is pulling the fire alarm, like, a common feminist tactic? I mean, that sounds silly for a number of reasons, but it's also kind of irrelevant; doing crazy, unproductive shit for the sake of your cause doesn't make you any more of a "salesman"
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 08:09 PM
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that's an interesting interpretation. it just seems like a lot of the interpretations on here of people's(male or female) actions stem more from preconceived notions- the "buried truths" TRP tries to uncover- rather than understanding said person as an individual, which is what I think of when I think of empathy
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 08:05 PM
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That makes it sound like there's even less of a difference though- for both of those descriptions, you basically said "they state ideas, then hope people buy them" The other folks distinguished the two by saying one goes out of its way to find people, while the other generally lets people come to them- and that is a substantial difference, but that still sounds like the same degree of salesmanship, it's just passive salesmanship in TRP's case, which makes it less obnoxious I guess
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:54 PM
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I'm referring to the really pronounced trend of "other-ing" Obama in conservative circles, to give him this weird, foreign vibe. I mean obviously there's the whole "born in Kenya" and "secret Muslim" thing, but there's always this "Us vs. him" rhetoric when they talk about Obama- like a described divide between "Politicians who REALLY love America" and Obama, or "the members of traditional CHRISTIAN America" and Obama, or Obama vs. "REAL Americans." Like, polls keep showing that a slight majorit…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:47 PM
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I swear I'm not trolling rn, those days are more or less over. Just trying to make some counterpoints that seem relevant/overlooked i like that devil's advocate jazz
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:37 PM
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see I dunno, the examples here don't really follow. like, "it's wrong to kill others," "bourgeoisie makes more money than they need," and "exercise good" are just stated TENETS of Catholicism, Marxism, and TRP respectively; that seems to be the point here. whereas SUPPOSEDLY, "equal rights between men and women" is the entire stated point and end-goal of feminism- the only point of contention is if you suggest that women didn't have fewer rights to begin with, but most people suggest that "to be…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:33 PM
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Oh that's what you meant- I was referring to selling the ideas to potential or starting TRP peeps. I mean, I've never seen a feminist try to "convert" someone who doesn't already share their views, but I'm absolutely sure that happens, I just don't see much feminist/anti-feminist interaction that isn't just pure vitriol. Anyway, wouldn't the entire front page of r/TheRedPill qualify as that then? That's like the sales pitch for the unsubscribed. Or alternately, any of the explanations of the "re…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:10 PM
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all of her political works were written a decade after she moved to America... TIL Marxism was the political atmosphere of the 1940s USA
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:59 PM
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so the main difference is, men exhibit a consistent, medium level of shittiness, while women's shittiness grows over time along a parabolic curve?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:55 PM
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Wouldn't this be closer to an issue of gender rather than sex? And not even that- I mean, there's tons of female dommes and male subs out there. We all got testosterone and estrogen
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:48 PM
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I've met a LOT of shit female employees. I've also met a LOT of shit male employees. I dunno, awful employees seem to make up 95% of the workforce I've seen- that's probably largely a consequence of the fields I've worked in (not just, like, foodservice and shit though- I work at a law firm now), I just haven't seen enough competent men at work to notice much of a difference. Maybe it's more pronounced in sales or something, but my point is, corporate culture doesn't seem to be unruined enough f…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:27 PM
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if the only alternative was Marxism, that would mean Marxism was the only form of government available from 1848 to 1943
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:22 PM
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I've only read two of her books, but I've looked a lot into her explicit explanations of Objectivism, the philosophy she pioneered and built a career on, and while much of it's based on reasonably valid, if strawmanny, beliefs- government shouldn't obstruct us from reaching our full potential, it's unreasonable or immoral to force a person to give away the rewards he's personally reaped, personal identity is good, etc- the overarching core concept, that Ayn Rand's ideals, which line up with the …
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:15 PM
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I'm pretty familiar with the hierarchy of needs- how do you self-actualize the reality of your vagina though? It just doesn't sound right You could say her self-actualization stems from her possession/use of a vagina, but that sort of goes for everybody- as "sex" is a lower, previous step in the hierarchy, Maslow's suggesting that sexual satiation and comfort with your sex/sexuality is a prerequisite to ANYONE'S self-actualization. it just seems like he was trying to say something else
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:08 PM
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god they probably will try to repeal obamacare 74 more times too off-topic, but why does the House think it's a good idea to try the same retarded, symbolic message over and over and over? it just makes them look obsessive and irrational
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:03 PM
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I don't think you understand how this works- if feminists "lose" the election (which I still think is a weird way to put it, Hillary like, has a political platform), it won't make them think "oh, the people voted for a dude, guess we were wrong about the whole equality thing," it'd be more like "even more proof of misogyny in our culture; Americans won't trust her to run the country just because she's a woman!" That's just how ideologues work in general. If they see something that can be constru…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:01 PM
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But Ayn Rand was a psycho bitch who thought American Indian tribes "didn't use the land" and whose political works usually boiled down to "why isn't the world conforming to all of my ideals? can't they see that my opinions are better than theirs?" There's gotta be at least one dude who said the exact same thing over the past 250 years, why do y'all keep bringing Rand into this
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:57 PM
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We Americans have something of a history of confusing symbolic victories for actual political progress. That being said, the presidential campaign destroyed John McCain's once fine mind, and Romney just... SUCKS, so I'm still relatively glad Obama won 'em.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:53 PM
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What did they do in Ontario? I'm interested now And I dunno if calling all 8 years of Obama "identity politics" is fair- it seemed to be a cornerstone of his strategy during his first election, but if anything, since then the political scene around Obama has focused more on CONSERVATIVE "identity politics"- perhaps that still qualifies? It does seem like a backlash against that is what keeps him popular among the more leftwise half of the country
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:49 PM
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Modern feminism is really too fragmented to be said to serve a single purpose at this point. That's definitely a thing that's coming up in the movements though: a fixation on the "victimhood" aspect, without much of a plan to DO something about it. Then again, most of em make it out to be a social rather than a political issue (which is the only way it makes sense), and I guess stimulating conversation on a perceived social problem would be the closest you could come to "directly" dealing with t…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:46 PM
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What do you mean by "self-actualize"?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:44 PM
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How so though? Isn't the idea of "red pill" that we've been living in a society that uses progressive social constructs to lie to us? Ayn Rand was all about how our society is objectively the best and that industrial and capitalist societies have earned the right to expand and keep telling themselves how great they are. Granted, our society was more conservative when she wrote this, and there's still the common theme of "socially pertinent liberal lies," but Rand was just kind of a crazy egoist …
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:43 PM
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Thatcher remains extremely divisive to this day- I don't like her, but then again I have something of a bizarre affinity for poor folks- but the differing opinions of her don't fall along "feminist/anti-feminist" lines, so presumably she did SOMETHING right. I do find it interesting that her leadership style was so characteristically masculine though
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:38 PM
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Important counterpoint: Begging for votes by reminding people you have a vagina IS shameful and lame, but when was the last time a major American political candidate DIDN'T employ such lameful tactics to garner the votes of lazy-minded, single-issue voters? I understand why Hillary is focused on here due to the particularly sordid history between feminism and TRP, but you know the whole presidential race operates on this level
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:33 PM
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It's doesn't seem to be a very substantial post, but I kinda like it- I'm not totally sure what the point here is, but it's much better/more entertainingly-written than anything I've seen in this sub so far. I mean that "aspiring alphas" post was ENTERTAINING, but in a sorta embarrassing way
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:22 PM
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I mean I guess I see what you're saying, but it sorta implies that "dominance" is sorta granted automatically after demonstrating competence- but if you've proven yourself hypercompetent and people don't respond automatically, don't you have to make a case for your ethos? You gotta assert yourself somehow, I thought that was one of the main points here
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:15 PM
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um, you know fraud isn't okay right?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:17 AM
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How is making yourself more visually attractive comparable to flat-out deception? The thing about physical attraction is it's based on how the person looks- not how they would look "naturally." Changing a totally superficial trait of yourself is just a change, not a lie. There's a difference between trying to make yourself fuckable and tricking people into sex under false pretenses. Lying to deceive people into giving what you want's just fucked up, just because you've met women who do it doesn'…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:14 AM
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where do you meet these bizarre women?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:09 AM
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...how else would one fight for dominance though?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:07 AM
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Well wait, don't most women hate 50 Shades of Grey? I know, like, old ladies read it but I've never known anyone under the age of 40 say a single positive word about it, because it's written like crap
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:01 AM
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