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🥱no sympathy from me when men are the true victims we dying in the steeets yall just gotta hear about the death. Rape culture isn’t real btw. Cope harder feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:27 AM
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You should tell that to simps that think defending women will get them pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:01 AM
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You should tell that to feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:36 AM
3

Why are men less entitled to happiness and connection than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:52 PM
2

How do you expect people who are ontologically evil to better themselves for your benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:50 PM
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I agreed with your comment only you said that dumb shit about men being raised to believe they are special and superior when in fact men are raised to believe they are dirt shit and their lives are to be nothing more than servants. THE FUTURE IS FEMALE after all isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:47 PM
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No they say men aren’t entitled to anything and we are born pieces of shit,
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:41 PM
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Should society help men if it’s done at the expense of the privilege that others have? Should we divert resources where women are privileged to equalize where men are oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:40 PM
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The vast majority of men get treated like shit because of the minority. They don’t deserve none of that yet they suck it up. It’s not fair for them to suck it up. They should stop being so nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:38 PM
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What makes shame rightfully justified when it’s done to men and undeserved when it’s done to women besides the logic of blue pill cuckism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:37 PM
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I only support fat men. Fat women don’t deserve the support of men. I’m trying to overcompensate for the lack of support that fat men get compared to fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:35 PM
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That would be the fault of the dumb bitches that continue to get pregnant despite the man making it clear he will not be around. I don’t blame men unless they’re manipulative and fool women into thinking they’ll be fathers and back out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:33 PM
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It helps men not be cucked by women. When men aren’t cucked, they can become strong role models for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:32 PM
2

So now you’re talking about something entirely different. At first, you said attacking fat women is misogynistic. Now it’s only misogynistic if you single out fat women. You moved the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:30 PM
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Empty platitudes like this must help you feel good at night but push come to shove, you wouldn’t help men if it came at any indirect cost to women. Resources are limited. Would you rather they go to your people or the evil oppressors that are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:29 PM
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It’s a zero sum game and feminists know that. To uplift men to an equal level of women, you have to take away from men. You can’t equalize things like the suicide rate and college attendance rate without diverting resources away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:26 PM
2

Nice job assuming men only complain when they feel entitled or deserving.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:23 PM
1

So evil will prevail then because the good people have lost to a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:22 PM
2

You’re not entitled to anything as a woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:19 PM
3

Watch some dumb bimbo come play dumb and try to gaslight us about how men aren’t demonized. Let’s see if she hits all the buzzwords too like saying we’re all entitled with fragile egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:17 PM
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Be honest if you see a man complaining about dating is your first thought that he’s warranted to complain or do you feel a need to punch him down that he doesn’t deserve love or affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:15 PM
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Bruh do you agree with the logic or not because you’re beginning to sound like a hypocrite. Maybe you don’t actually have an opinion and you’re just waiting for a woman to speak so you can agree with hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:42 PM
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Call it whatever the fuck you like. Women justify seeking partners that make more money than themselves because they want to compensate for the time when they’re pregnant and vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:34 PM
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You can’t really provide for yourself when you’re pregnant and vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:33 PM
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Men who provide more than 50/50 before a woman is impregnated with their children are getting ripped off. No providing. All the behavior that men tolerate like paying for dates and handling the majority of emotional labor is supposedly to balance out the cost of pregnancy. The problem with that is there is no guarantee for pregnancy if you do all those things even though they’re required to play the game. The game is not fair and the only winning move for men is to quit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:30 PM
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No they’re not providing. They’re nurturing. They need to be provided for so that nurturing is easier for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:26 PM
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Most women justify hypergamy to themselves as the need to be protected when they’re most vulnerable and pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:24 PM
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If men operated strictly on their biological imperative, it would be to impregnate as many women as possible and not commit. Most men don’t do that because they are unable to or because society pressures them to commit to one. In other words, society makes them go against what they’re attracted to. We don’t do the same to women. No one shames women for being attracted to the most confident high status man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:23 PM
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Can’t be. We don’t live in a society that shames women for being attracted solely on their base biological urges. For women, it would be seeking the most confident, highest status man they can secure to provide for her children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:21 PM
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Women think having to use their brain is emotional labor. I couldn’t give a fuck that misandrists think men are lazy and women are poor little workhorses abused by patriarchy or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:36 PM
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Definitely men. You’re wrong and a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:35 PM
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Most women aren’t well adjusted people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:34 PM
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Women are the zeitgeist and feminism rules social speak so it’s laughable to think men could complain about the invisible labor they do without being labeled as misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:33 PM
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How the fuck do you know she was doing hours of labor and he wasn’t? Can feminists go one second without it living in the women are beautiful effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:32 PM
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Nor does it mean that the data is indisputably correct and the reality we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:29 PM
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I don’t think lowly of men at all. I don’t consider male sexuality to be predatory like most feminists do because I don’t see objectification as a bad thing. Feminists think the way women see the world is the only legitimate way. Men would love to be objectified. Who the fuck said anything about dignity or discipline what are you on about. This is the problem with feminists. So eager to demonize male sexuality and think we’re animals just for daring to like a fat ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:03 PM

Then you shouldn’t date any man at all because I guarantee there is not a single man on earth who thinks dating you is less effort than fucking you. Fucking can take just a few minutes. Dating someone, especially a woman, takes much more effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:01 PM
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I’m interested so please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 07:59 PM

I don’t know the solution but the problem is men don’t have a strong in group bias like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:52 PM

Do you think I care about all you know? I’m not here to change your mind. Only here to not let feminists dominate the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:47 PM

Of course not because it would take much more than shouting to free men from gynocentric society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:47 PM

Did I not just say it’s easy for them to hide their attacks behind plausible deniability? So what use would it be to give you examples since there’s always many excuses for why what they do isn’t actually misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:45 PM

Yes every day in every way. It comes up because women unconsciously believe men who aren’t desired by women are lesser human beings worthy of less respect and consideration. You’re a women though so it’s easy for you to deny this and hide passive aggression behind plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:43 PM

Of course you don’t understand men because you’re a woman and your lived experience is much different. We can only educate you. The majority of men go the majority of their lives feeling undesired based off their physical appearance. Men don’t see it as dehumanizing if someone were to compliment us for how nice our ass is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:38 PM

To end the shame of virgins and incels inflicted by men and especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:36 PM

This is not hard to figure out. Men want to be sexually desired by the person they marry. Men also want to be seen as good husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:01 PM

Way to spin it to make you the victim. Weaponized feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:59 PM

Men for the most part are never validated for their bodies so being seen as sex objects is a compliment to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:59 PM
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Male sexuality is inherently objectification and if you have a problem with that, don’t pursue sexual relationships with men. Accept men for who they are and either take it or leave it but don’t hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:47 PM
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Why? Redpillers have no political or social power. They’re not hurting men anywhere near as much as the people in power. Feminism has entrenched itself into every facet of our society from academia to politics to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:11 PM
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Most feminists think it’s perfectly fine for obese women to prefer fit men because you can’t negotiate attraction is what they say. We live in a gynocentric society where women are free from gender roles while men are still held to theirs. Just because some men complain online doesn’t change how the majority of people actually behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:09 PM
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You can call someone’s preferences childish or whatever all you want but you can’t negotiate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:37 AM
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Men should unite and support each other in their common enemy, feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:36 AM
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It’s not delusional to have preferences for people that you don’t have yourself. Do you think it’s delusional for women to prefer a man that earns more than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:35 AM
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Why is it bad for men to have hypocritical preferences if it’s not bad for women? Women don’t think anything of their typical preference for a highly confident, assertive, charismatic man while being a passive woman herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:34 AM
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When women send their best to argue on PPD they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 07:13 PM
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Misandry isn’t a byproduct of misogyny and is its own legitimate thing unless you’re also a feminist who believes in patriarchy in which case just say that because I don’t like to engage with that cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:27 PM
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It’s misandrist to say misandry is just a byproduct of misogyny. Misandry is much more significant than just a byproduct of something else. Please check your feminist privilege. You just outed yourself as a feminist/misandrist when you said that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:05 PM
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So you think women become less misandrist over time? I disagree as I think misandry has only grown over the years and continues to trend upward.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:20 PM
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If it helps you do you boo 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:58 PM
2

Nah this is the internet not your high school debate team. It’s on me to do jack shit for you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:57 PM
2

Inb4 inafter bruh this is terminally online speak you know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:56 PM
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See for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:11 PM
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I don’t give a fuck either way. I’m like Leo in this bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:11 PM
1

The majority though? You said the majority of men are misogynists. Are the majority of women misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:39 PM
1

Do you believe likewise that most women are misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:26 PM
1

Do you believe likewise that the majority of women are misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:25 PM
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They’re not. The fear of being taken advantage of is similar though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:21 PM
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People who don’t understand analogies are dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:04 PM
2

What nice thing do women commonly do for the men they meet on dates? Don’t say putting on makeup because she does that to make herself more appealing and valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:03 PM
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Yes those are things without value until actually exercised. I could pay for the meals of every woman in my city and not a single one would end up pregnant and give birth to my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:01 PM
1

Then maybe relationships aren’t for me because I don’t believe in treating women better than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:59 PM
6

Is it insecure for a woman to fear being raped? Is it insecure to not want to be taken advantage of when a third of the people you’re trying to date have admitted to using men for free meals?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:57 PM
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Neither Leo nor the women he dated care about if you think their preferences were valid or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:42 PM
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It’s crazy the amount of mental gymnastics and misandry people will use to justify women not being treated like equal humans but better people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:39 PM
2

Is she doing something nice specifically for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:34 PM
2

No one is forcing me to but I think it’s kind of sad that if you expect women to act like equal people who pay for their own food then you’ll likely never find a relationship as an average man. This makes me think most women in my generation feel entitled to this behavior. Also, yes I understand no one is entitled to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:33 PM
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You know there are far better ways to show you’re interested in a man than letting him pay for your food.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:31 PM
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I treat my friends and family because I know 100% in my heart that they will never take advantage of me. Meanwhile, a third of the people I want to date have admitted to using men for free meals and likely more just aren’t shameless enough to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:31 PM
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I believe I bring to the table the same things that most women do except pregnancy and child birth. Why should my wallet be what I bring to the table if that’s not what you bring to it either?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:28 PM
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I’d like to point out that a third of Gen Z women when surveyed have admitted to going on a date for a free meal. The reality is likely higher if you account for the ones who have the shame to not admit that even anonymously. Personally, I don’t see this as a gold digger epidemic but more of a “women don’t see men as people but just objects for their use” epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:26 PM
1

How tf can men be worse lovers than women yet women are the ones who commonly exert zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:36 PM
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Are any of those groups you mentioned anywhere near as popular as the tea app?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:14 PM
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If you don’t support tally keeping than you don’t support all this nonsense about how men are such terrible lovers because orgasm gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:09 PM
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And you don’t understand a single one of the three no matter how much you try to womansplain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:07 PM
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Is it equitable if sex brings women more pleasure than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:24 PM
1

We’re all about equity not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:12 PM
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We’re talking about fairness here. A man’s orgasm is cheap and feels good for maybe a second. A woman’s orgasm feels good all over and for longer. Equity not equality. Why should women have as many as men? Especially when considering it takes more effort to get a woman to orgasm than a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:13 PM
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I wouldn’t feel comfortable with anyone in a profession is so blatantly ignorant about my entire sex. Their advice to me will be coming from their studying that is done mostly on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:57 AM

Only women have the privilege to enforce such a boundary without causing backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:53 AM
1

Why is it woman will communicate with everyone but the man they’re in a relationship with? They’ll look to therapists to validate their feelings. They’ll look to their friends to tell them how awful their men are. They’ll do fucking anything but look to solve problems with the person you’re supposedly forming a life long bond with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:52 AM
1

Women aren’t looking for partnership. Men are just useless to women now that they need men’s money anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:48 AM

I’m like most other men in that I don’t entrench myself into the relationships and gossip. This means women are in a much better position to set the narrative for conflict. How would it look from the outside? This big scary man has an issue with a woman just doing the bubbly affectionate things that women do? Why is he so sensitive? He should be grateful that a woman touched him! There’s way too many land mines involved with a man trying to get a grown ass woman to understand consent. I’d rather…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:43 AM
2

Male psychology is not your strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:29 AM
0

Astronomically based
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:26 AM
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Okay but by definition only a very small amount of men can achieve greatness. If everyone can be great, then it’s no longer extraordinary since it’s common. What about for the rest of 99% of the population where the men are worse off than the women? Men don’t have mental superiority over women and the physical superiority we do have is mostly pointless in a modern civilized society. A bullet from a gun hurts just as much if the trigger is pulled by a woman and not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:22 AM
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But you have an inherent value to you whether you choose to ever have kids or not. You still benefit from having this innate ability. It’s not a burden since no one’s forcing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:05 AM
3

Bro just kept yapping in detail. Thanks for the explanation that no one asked for because we’ve all heard it a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:03 AM
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Ngl from a man’s perspective, it’s very demoralizing that my value as a human being is less than just because I happened to be born as the gender that can’t get pregnant so I have to constantly prove my worthiness. I’d rather just not participate in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:31 AM
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Ideally no one breastfeeds. Also, women aren’t more capable of childcare and domestic duties than men. By your own definition, the only value women have that men don’t have is pregnancy and child birth. My belief is that men should reciprocate these things by taking on much more of the financial and domestic load for the duration of pregnancy, child birth, and for a certain amount of time during recovery. Any other reciprocations are unjust. You’re trying to make pregnancy a justification for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:24 AM
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It’s not 1:1. For every orgasm a woman gets, a man should get 5. Keep in mind that a woman’s orgasm gives her far more pleasure but at the cost of being harder to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:11 PM
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How are you as a woman going to protect a man in a fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:59 PM
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Why do you want male friendships if men are just basically worse versions of women? Aren’t they an inferior species with worse emotional intelligence and psychopathic traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:56 PM
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So basically your take is men are psychopaths and become incels for unjustified reasons. Meanwhile, women are harmless victims who have to deal with these awful men. What makes your opinion any different than the feminist zeitgeist? Nothing new here bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:55 PM

Who decides what’s socially acceptable? Women because women hold the social power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:44 PM
1

Are men not bringing these things, or is it that women don’t want these things? Maybe the problem isn’t men being deficient, but women’s morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:44 PM

Men don’t get to decide how they feel about touch. If I feel that women are as a whole way too intrusive in touching men, you’d say I’m not allowed to decide that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:38 PM

Every woman that I’ve ever interacted with from strangers to family has decided for me what is acceptable touch and what isn’t. Women aren’t taught consent because they hold the social power. Imagine if I tried to decide how much women get to touch men I would be laughed out of the room so quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:34 PM
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What did he benefit from that though? A big lavish wedding to please his wife. She got a lot more out of the whole ordeal than he did. Like most things though, women will defend all unfairness that men deal with because pregnancy,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:33 PM
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I’m not referring to this comment I’m talking about the comments you’ve made before. “Male sexuality is perverse and provokes the disgust ick”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:31 PM

Just here to remind everyone that our culture and social norms are decided by women. Also, women refuse to admit they hold social power over men because admitting so goes against the feminist victim narrative. Look here to see how they are 100% in control of defining what is or isn’t appropriate touch and what is friendly or flirty. Women decide the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:39 PM
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So how are you any different when here are you are explaining male psychology like it's the back of your hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:13 PM
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Isn't your whole argument that male sexuality is disgusting? Men don't get turned on by personality but simply by how fat the ass is and other curves. Women's attraction is so much more enlightened than simple base desires right? Don't try to gaslight me I've seen your comments about how disgusting male sexuality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:11 PM
2

So who or what determines when a girlfriend/boyfriend privilege becomes a husband/wife privilege? Why is sex a husband privilege but paying for food a girlfriend privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:06 PM
0

Because that dumbass will still be taught by female peers in a field of study that primarily targets women which also does nothing to counter their anti-male bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:05 PM
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Bruh imagine paying for the privilege of not getting to plan what your money goes into. Lol I think you should pay me $10K so that you don't have to think about where to invest it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:04 PM
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Fake news.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:31 PM
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I assure you that I don't trust your opinion one bit since you have a massive in group bias towards your fellow women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:31 PM
1

nah you're wrong. be sad with that because it's wrong and you should educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:21 PM
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I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:16 PM
2

A lot of women call men immature for still wanting to sleep around in their 30s not realizing that she already had her fun in her 20s but this is only the first time he's been able to. Men need to go through that phase too it's just unfortunate that we typically only get to later in our lives so while you're ready to settle down, men are just getting started.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:15 PM
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But you do stop them from having as much say in the wedding ordeal. Why would I see it as my special day if I'm not included?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:14 PM
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Isn't paying for a woman's food something you do in a committed relationship that isn't usually given to anyone else? So why wouldn't that be called a wife privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:13 PM
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Seriously why the fuck did you go for that then??? Like I don't understand why men willingly disrespect themselves like this. Is the pussy that good? If it's not about that but because you supposedly love her and wanted to sacrifice for her, do you really think she sees it that way too? Did she ever explicitly say, "Thank you for taking on the burden of the wedding and making my dream come true." Of course not because women feel entitled to having their big special day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:12 PM
3

Women are much more responsible for this problem than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:08 PM
1

A woman can't orgasm with a man she doesn't respect. Women only respect high status men. High status often comes from money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:07 PM
7

That's not the horror part. The horror part is her not doing anything to make him spending time with her more feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:04 PM
1

So why should men not have their fun in their 30s once they have the status to get with 20 year old women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:04 PM
1

You can't punish them. They're a tragedy. What we should do is make less of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:44 PM
3

Are they objectively not a tax burden?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:42 PM
0

Yeah yeah yalll so much more enlightened than lowly men you're attraction is so superior I've heard your shtick a hundred times here. Women aren't entitled to any special treatment that men don't get just because your attraction is so enlightened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:34 PM
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Reactive libido is just an excuse for women to place the entirety of initiating and courtship and effort on men. If you were actually attracted to your partner, you would initiate and buy flowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:31 PM
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Just because the dead bedroom happens later doesn't mean the cause happened later too. Sometimes, the cause is at the start of the relationship. Women will choose men that they're lukewarm attracted to at best and have sex with him to lock him down but then once she gets that ring then she feels safe enough to cut off all that duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:29 PM
1

Couples counseling just means having two grown ass women lecturing you for an.hour about how everything wrong in your relationship is your fault. Why should any man go for that unless he's a cuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:15 PM
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Men have more sympathy for women than women have more men. Men have an out-group bias for women while women have a massive in group bias towards themselves. The person you replied to hit it right on the mark that women are so obsessed with believing they are much more virtuous than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:12 PM
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Women will defend even a cheating slut over a man. How fucked up is the way we raise women that they have a 5x greater in group bias than men? This man was 50-50 on childcare and housework yet 100% on financial outcome. If the dumb cheating slut wanted more time with him, why didn't she ease his financial load?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:07 PM
2

Not men's fault. Blame other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:57 PM
5

Isn't that what feminist boss babes have been saying? Now that women have their own wallets, men are useless. Since that's all men have meant to women the whole time, fucking money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:55 PM
8

What is husband privileges? Having sex isn't a husband privilege. Is it a wife privilege to pay for a woman's food?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:53 PM
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Do you think it's fair for women to see the wedding as her special day? It's not fair to the man that it's not his special day too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:52 PM
1

So aren't all whores technically sluts too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:45 PM
1

That’s what I tell these hoes who can’t close their legs yet keep whining about abortion. Why do bitches love killing babies so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:02 AM
1

For me, porn is a need since I’ll likely have a much higher libido than her because I’m a man. If she’s against porn, that must mean she wants a power dynamic where I’m constantly fiending for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:01 AM
1

Yeah because I vet bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:58 AM
1

None but that’s not the only comparison there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:57 AM
1

I’m not body shaming but can you check them for me since they make me so uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:55 AM

They’ll say that women choose dangerous and bad men over nice men. Neither of which are exclusive to emotional stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:53 AM
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Yeah man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:52 AM
1

You think these women are going to pair up with men who earn less rather than just staying single? Women don’t tend to respect those men and women don’t tend to be attracted to men who earn less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:51 AM

Contrary to popular belief? Isn’t the popular belief that anything wrong with sex is the man’s fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:16 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:10 PM

Since women rely more on emotional support and placing emotional labor on men than the other way around. Since the start of humanity, men’s emotional stability has given them a point of status over other men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:09 PM
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Well let’s see you have to court her which means paying for all the meals, her nails or whatever frivolous bullshit and this all adds up just to make her your woman. Then if she’s like most women which have a delusional Disney fantasy, she’ll want a lavish wedding that’ll put you in debt. If you’ve made it this far, she’ll go through a year of misery for you (pregnancy + childbirth) but then you’ll spend the rest of the relationship with her holding it over you’re head while she brings home less…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:07 PM
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Yeah no thanks you can keep groveling at the feet of the women if you want to but me personally she better treat me like a human being off the jump or I’m not wasting my time. I’m not doing anything to convince someone that I’m not something which I know I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:03 PM

Even in your most nefarious interpretation, that statement does not necessarily imply rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:02 PM
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That’s the whole point of the lump sum payment. She also can’t do jack shit that I can’t except be pregnant for 9 months and have child birth. Send her ass straight back to 40 hours of work and we can take turns feeding and other childcare. But then that means she can’t hold pregnancy over my head for the rest of my life since she got paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:00 PM
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Yes I can complain because that is my child just as much as it is hers. That’s the whole point of 5050. Not she gets 100 and I get 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:59 PM
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Ngl I’d straight up pay that if women would actually act like equal people towards men and not feel entitled to the courtship process.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:58 PM
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Why does that matter? Also, I think you underestimate the toll of paying for some bastard for 18 years. Also having to answer to some bitch for 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:57 PM
2

Wow victim blaming much?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:56 PM

I do think I’m entitled to authority if you expect certain responsibility from men specifically that women don’t have. If you expect me to be more emotionally stable than you, make more money than you, be a more confident person than you, and be more assertive than you, then I deserve a certain authority over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:55 PM
1

Not necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:53 PM
1

Where is it that just looking at women is sexual harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:51 PM
1

That goes without saying with you lot. Try to go a day here without some bitch saying you’re not entitled to sex. Not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:50 PM
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Thanks my bad I’ll get my terminology right next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:49 PM
1

Nobody said that and insinuating I want to rape people is a personal attack. Why would you accuse me of something so horrible I feel like throwing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:05 PM
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The fuck does that have to do with shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:05 PM
1

Cool but you're not entitled to a man who doesn't watch porn just because you want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:03 PM
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That's literally the reason why men have to be much more showy in courtship than men. Because men have to prove themselves first they are safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:02 PM
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Mfer we don't agree because you seem to think marriage costs a lot more than $500. Marriage is very expensive for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:02 PM
2

Okay so do you believe all men will punish you for putting time/money/effort into them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:01 PM
1

Yes they do. Would you ever marry a man that is shorter than you, makes less money, and is less emotionally stable? Yet most men marry woman who are these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:58 PM
1

People should stare all they want. If you have a problem, make a law about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:55 PM
1

Do you care about what makes men uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:54 PM
1

Fat women make me uncomfortable can you check fat women for my sake? Please get them to lose weight so they stop raping my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:53 PM
1

Why are you sexualizing men's nipples are you sexist? That's such a terrible thing to do like men can't even exist today without women harassing them for how they look guys we really live in a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:52 PM
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Okay sure I care about those women's feelings. My solution though isn't to violate men's bodily autonomy but to tell those women to go to therapy. Likewise, if you say you care about men's feelings, what's your solution to a man feeling lonely that he can't get sex? Is it to violate women's autonomy and force them to fuck him or is it to tell him to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:50 PM
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Fake ass shit acting like men unilaterally make the decision for women to quit their jobs and become stay at home moms. It's usually a shared decision and if anything, women often make the decision themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:46 PM
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Why don't I just pay some financial amount for the pregnancy and then be done with it 50/50 for the rest of the relationship? Women hold pregnancy over men way too much. As a man, there are many unfair things expected of you from woman simply because they can get pregnant and you can't Never mind the fact that not all women benefitting from this unfair treatment are getting pregnant with your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:43 PM
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Men don't choose women who make less money. You're acting like women who earn more are an option for men. They're not because women rarely choose men who earn less. So if those women aren't an option, then men aren't choosing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:42 PM
0

Men are always doing the work. We now live in a world where man bare all the responsibility that they always have had and yet none of the authority that came with it. That's why so many men opt out now. The juice isn't worth the squeeze type shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:40 PM
1

So what's the explanation for why women need to have the highest status man in the room if not biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:39 PM
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When women start operating on anything more than their hypergamous biological imperative, I won't operate on anything more than mine. You can demonize male sexuality all you want but attraction is not negotiable. You can't make me not want to impregnate many women more than you can make a woman not want to get impregnated by the highest status man in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:36 PM
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You can't negotiate attraction and you can't negotiate what men are attracted to women for. You can't change male sexuality any more than you can make a gay person straight. The biological imperative behind male sexuality is spreading your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:34 PM
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That's exactly what you said. Don't gaslight when the text evidence is right there. What's your evidence men are worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:31 PM
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Can you read? I say one thing and you interpret another. Read carefully: Why invest marriage into a whore when you can invest $500 to get the same outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:31 PM
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Patriarchy doesn't exist that's just a feminist delusion. Women scaled sexism up too and still defend it today. Women aren't morally superior you guys just act like it. Check your misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:28 PM

I'm a man I'm going to die sooner anyway. If I even get to retire, it'll be at the same age as women despite dying much sooner. Women benefit a lot more from having children than I benefit from them having children. Point to one thing that women do that benefits men more than women. There's nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:27 PM
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A cheating woman is automatically a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:24 PM
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Lesbians aren't dating women from the position of being a man. They're not at the disadvantageous position of being seen as a rapist violent monster and having to prove yourself safe and worthy. Women are a lot more receptive to other woman. Lesbian advice is pointless for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:22 PM
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Don't feel sorry for misandrists and misogynists. They bring it upon themselves with their hate speech. They poison the minds of the youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:46 PM
1

Let's be real. 99% of women who have kids with athletes outside of marriage are doing it for the money and status not because they're anti-abortion. When you're THE man, everybody wants a piece of the pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:45 PM
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He doesn't want to marry a whore because he doesn't want to invest his resources into someone who fucks everyone in the city. It's just bad financial management to marry a whore since you can fuck her for a lot cheaper than the costs of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:44 PM
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It's misandry to believe men are incapable of being good husbands and will punish you in relationships regardless of what you do. Women are not better people than men no matter how much you'd like to believe. Women are just as bad in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:42 PM
1

Rape isn't selling a service so that's irrelevant to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:39 PM
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Women don't respect men they don't view as better than them. Women generally look for a replacement for their daddy. That's why they wouldn't respect a man equally as intelligent and equally as emotionally stable while contributing financially equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:33 PM
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Okay if a woman telling him is just a favor then a man telling a woman he'll be a deadbeat is just a favor. Either both are a favor or both are obligations. Don't be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:30 PM
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Thanks for setting the rules. I wouldn't want to be considered a feminist since that movement is filled with misandrists. I do however still support women's rights. I still don't support any abortion rights if they don't also come with financial abortion rights because I don't believe society likes men in general and I don't expect the favor to be returned since I don't trust society or feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:28 PM

It's been proven by many studies that boys earn higher grades through blind grading because all teachers are misandrists. I think we should start there. What I said is productive by the way. I'm demonstrating to you that if you don't want to engage in solving men's problems, the world will burn. You can't ignore men we are 50% of the world you live in and are necessary for the function of society. Like it or not but that's the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:23 PM
1

Femininity is defined by motherhood which is servitude but it's also defined by beauty. Masculinity is not the least bit defined by beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:22 PM
1

Women enforce misogyny and misandry just as much as men. Men didn't invent being a sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:20 PM
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Men without sex become antisocial and dangerous to society. You either give them an avenue to satisfy their urge or you put them down before they put you down first. Keep in mind we're not talking about normal people here. We're talking about men. In other words, humans who have a rare genetic disorder commonly referred to as the Y chromosome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:17 PM
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Women aren't inferior they are in fact superior. Okay so we've established the problem is that the Y chromosome is an abhorrent genetic mutation that creates humans which are less suitable for society. It's not like you can just kill off everyone with autism. What's the feminist solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:15 PM
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With women, selfishness is encouraged because people believe it's liberating them from oppression. If I act that same way, it's seen as running away from my duty. So I'm not considered a "real man" anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:13 PM
1

Women aren't owed men not watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:11 PM
1

You're free to be a misandrist who makes harmful assumptions about my emotional intelligence but then I won't engage with you unless you apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:10 PM

Then don't have kids. Although the least you can do is keep your misandry to yourself and similar woman instead of polluting the minds of children. The least I ask of incels and femcels is actually follow through with your antisocial behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:06 PM
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Women aren't attracted to men that they don't see as better people than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:05 PM
1

Lmao hahaha this delusion that women love men for who they are. You're literally biologically attracted to the highest status man in the room. It's what secures the most resources for you and your child. You can't negotiate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:04 PM
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So not wanting to marry a whore means men are settling? Is a woman's natural state to be a whore?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:01 PM
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What kind of dumb fucking whore willfully chooses to keep a child knowing she'll be a single mom and her child will never have all the parenting they need? A gold digger that's who. She chose money over even the wellbeing of her child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:00 PM
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Men being able to pee standing up is harmless and insignificant. Women being able to unilaterally decide parenthood for men is a power dynamic and has significant societal impact. No abortion rights for women without financial abortion rights for men. That's my stance and if you want me to support abortion, you have to support men being able to waive responsibility for parenthood. You can use the conservative argument of telling men to just keep their legs closed if you want but then I'll say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:47 PM
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I mean when women complain about societal expectations like beauty standards, do you tell them they have choices and can wear whatever they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:44 PM
1

A fucking rounding error amount. Irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:17 PM
1

Feminism isn't about dancing or music.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:17 PM
0

The 1% of men aren't men they are lizard people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:16 PM
5

You're a woman so of course you don't see the male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:16 PM
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So what do men do since they can't sell their bodies? They either become homeless or work shit jobs. These women choose prostitution over a shit job.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:15 PM
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Are you an MRA? Would you support financial abortions even if abortions weren't a right? If you answer no to either of these questions, then I'll answer no to yours. You're the woman here. You're supposed to be morally superior so all I can do is follow your lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:14 PM
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I think the current way that society at large defines masculinity is of servitude to others. Feminists are no different once you listen to them talk about positive masculinity. That's why I encourage men to be selfish in the same way that feminism encourages girl boss behavior. Feminists love to pull the women owe you nothing and you're entitled to jack shit card so I encourage men likewise. Men need to stop living in their gender roles and just do whatever they like. Not what women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:13 PM
1

All feminism is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:09 PM
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Women don't deserve a monopoly on hearts. It's not like they're more romantic and lovey than men. They also don't deserve the color pink. It's a nice color :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:03 PM
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So do you push back on girl power and girl boss behavior that encourages extreme selfishness in women and taking advantage of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:02 PM
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Prostitution is a choice. You choose to sell your body and get PTSD from it. Why do they do it? Because you get a lot more money for your hour than working a job and requires literally no skill. Just the body that was given to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:01 PM
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Is femininity not selfishness? I don't need no man. Girl power. Girl boss. I can do whatever I want without consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:59 PM
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Feminist is not some small grassroots movement anymore. Feminism is entrenched everywhere. Feminism is the reason why male sexual assault victims get counted as female in statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:58 PM
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That's literally the basis of male reproduction strategy lmao. Spread your seed as far and wide as possible. If she's promiscuous with someone else, she's carrying his child and not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:55 PM
1

What about the 99% of men that didn't do those things. Were they valued as people as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:54 PM
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Women created the culture and contribute to it just as much as men. Infantilizing women is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:52 PM
1

Men can perpetuate misandry. Also, women do perpetuate this misandry given most of them are disgusted by male bisexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:52 PM
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It's only weird for you because you don't understand the concept of internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:51 PM
1

So why would I as a man be a feminist or even support them if they believe my issues should be deprioritized for those of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:48 PM
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Do you hold women to this same standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:45 PM
4

Feminists still demand masculinity and the provider role in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:43 PM
1

Do you tell this to woman too or only men? Feminists would eat your head alive if you tried to get them to take personal accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:42 PM
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Are feminists not a significant part of society?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:39 PM
1

If men are required to disclose to women what they will do if she gets pregnant, should women be required to do the same? They claimed men should have to say they'll get a financial abortion but then why shouldn't I also be informed beforehand if she plans to kill my child if she gets pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:39 PM
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Men need sex. That much is not deniable unless you can somehow morph male sexuality which I would laugh at because it's like trying to make gay people straight. Prostitution is one of the few ways undesirable men can get sex without violating bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:50 PM
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How do you want men to deal with the fact that fundamentally they are much less sexually desired while simultaneously having male sexuality and the libido that comes with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:47 PM
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If you sell sex as a service and get PTSD from it, that's your fault. You should've been smart enough to know that this isn't for you. Similarly, if I somehow got PTSD from babysitting, everyone would that say that's my fault if I kept babysitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:46 PM
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Feeling sexually desired is an unobtainable dream for the vast majority of men, but feeling some pleasure is still better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:44 PM
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Men are pathetic, disgusting, and vile. Male sexuality is an abomination. How do you approach this as a feminist trying to build a perfect society without the patriarchy? There's no amount of socialization that can change male sexuality at its core. It'd be like trying to make gay people straight. What's the feminist answer for male sexuality? Is it just male genocide?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:39 PM
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I think when people say masculinity is under attack, they're not referring to the masculine behavior that benefits women through servitude. Feminists only attack masculinity when it serves men, because selfishness in men is seen as abhorrent and morally corrupt, all the while they go around saying girl power and girl boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:31 PM
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If you reach out for help and are continuously spat on, is it so wrong to eventually develop a mindset like this? "The world is against me. I am my only savior. I am an island."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:28 PM
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The only masculinity I encourage in other men is selfishness. There's no reason why they should live in servitude of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:26 PM
2

I've thought about this but genuinely this is why feminism is the enemy. We're just simply incompatible with each other fundamentally. They think abortion rights are more important than men being considered a lower class in education. I think it's the other way around. There's no reconciliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:25 PM
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Men are inferior to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:22 PM
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Nothing just continue about your misandrist ways but also don't expect men to give a fuck about your cause. In fact, don't expect us to sit idle and let you dominate the conversation without push back. Don't expect men to not vote against abortion or be anti feminist. If my people must suffer, I'd rather the world burn than see yours on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:20 PM
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This only makes sense because patriarchy theory assumes women are powerless people incapable of affecting society and contributing towards misandry. Feminism only makes sense if you believe in patriarchy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:18 PM
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Is it reasonable for me to say I don't care about women's issues because it just sounds like whining from the privileged and men's issues are more important?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:17 PM
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You do realize this is the same feminist bullshit that removes all accountability from women right? The culture isn't making you do jack shit. You're just a fucked up individual that craves male validation so much that you miss catcalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:16 PM
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If men don't deserve full rights unless we're in a socialist utopia then women don't deserve them either. The argument is if we must suffer than you must suffer too.. I'd rather the world go extinct tomorrow than live in a world where women oppress men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:12 PM
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I was with you until the end when you start acting like a feminist which is blaming all men's issues on men's responsibility. This is an example of what some call female hypo agency and male hyper agency. The idea that men are responsible for everything in their surroundings and women are helpless to the big bad patriarchy. Men are just as susceptible to the whims of society as women. It's not just some shitty podcast telling men this. Women constantly reinforce the idea that men who aren't sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:57 PM
1

I don't believe anyone should adopt a men first and women second mentality. Why do you think that is the way I am? Just because I don't support abortion without financial abortion? So you see women first and men second as equality? Lmao at the mention of handmaids tail. Are you sure you aren't a feminist because fear mongering the oppression of women is one of their top cards to play. Women being able to abort freely does affect men. It means women can choose to make a parent out of a man withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:43 PM
2

I'm an egalitarian and a men's rights activist. I believe men's success being defined by their sexual success limits men's freedoms and forces a dependency on women. I'm only explaining society's viewpoint and how women reinforce this viewpoint because they benefit from the power dynamic. Again, one more time and really simple for you. The society we live in places expectations of men that their value comes from their sexual success. Both men and women reinforce this expectation. Men's sexual su…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:39 PM
1

Cool so if you don't see paper abortion as a man's right then I don't see abortion as a woman's right. Feminists and their double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:02 PM
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The only men who aren't susceptible to the whims of society are deeply religious or isolated men. Both women and men define the success of a man by his wealth and sexual success. This is heavily prevalent in our society. Don't even try to be delusional by denying it. Quit your feminist oppression bullshit right now. Men wanting sexual success has nothing to do with not seeing women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:44 PM

Which is something men shouldn't care about. Do you think women care about the feelings of men they reject or ghost? Who gives a fuck about the feelings of people you've moved on from? Women aren't entitled to having their feelings carefully catered to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:27 PM

It's always a breakup and never her being used. She's a grown and competent person and sex is a two person activity that both people engage in where neither is being used. Also, women lie just as much as men because they are just as morally bankrupt as men yet we never hear men complain that they were used like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:24 PM

I didn't say you did genius. I was just telling you to be careful because it looks like you were close to doing that since your response was such an overreaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:21 PM
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Maybe she should've closed her legs if she didn't want to pay for her own healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:19 PM
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I agree with you about the time constraint thing albeit it should be two weeks shorter so that the woman has time to make an informed decision about her pregnancy. That's fair of you, but then you can't claim to be morally superior to me. You can't claim to be the type of person who supports the rights of other people without expecting reciprocity. I support both men and women having their deserved rights. I'm opposed to supporting women's rights without men having theirs because feminists have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:16 PM
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I'm speaking for a lot of men. Many men will even admit that their motivation for financial success and status comes from the sexual success that comes with it. Men are free to define meaning in their lives in anyway they choose, but we can't ignore the biological imperative and we can't ignore that this is how society largely views the success of men, including how women view men too. The next time you call a man an incel a virgin for an opinion you disagree with, you're agreeing with my point …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:12 PM

Careful there please be civil. Neither of us would want to see you make a personal attack and get banned would we?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:06 PM
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Would you support anything that helps men's rights even if it doesn't help women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:04 PM
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I've heard that argument before from women. Financial abortions only make sense if we lived in a utopia. Cool you're free to think that but it also means you don't get my support on abortion. If people don't care about men's rights, there's no reason to care about women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:04 PM
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Do you think women are generally condemned when they say complain (express themselves) while insulting half the human race (the bar for men is in hell)?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:18 AM
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It's also easy and right to support men having the choice of giving up their parental rights and responsibility in the same time frame as an early stage abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:01 AM
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I don't think it does but can we move past this idea that if men put enough tokens into helping women, then men will experience ultimate freedom? Women are not vending machines. Trickle down economics doesn't work. It's a very feminist idea that men just need to support women and suddenly all their problems would be solved but this is just their manipulation and only breeds resentment from men later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:57 AM
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my right to my body to not be a slave to your spawn. I don't support anything that benefits women if men don't also benefit just as much. Feminists deserve literally zero trust that they'll help men as they've proven that time and time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:54 AM
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Makes no logical sense for a man to pay for someone's medical treatment just because he nutted in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:52 AM
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Men have been told that their whole lives. Even the most traditional men are hip enough today to recognize that you can't force a women to be something she doesn't want to be. The only thing men can do is enforce their boundaries. Men don't have to accept women who fuck who they want, refuse to get married, and don't settle into gender roles while expecting them of you. It goes both ways honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:43 AM
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Just because you don't like it as a woman doesn't mean you get to decide what success is for men. Success for men has always been defined by how much they procreate and pass their genes. This explains why having sex with as many women as possible is success to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:38 AM
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So would you support a bill tomorrow that would give men their right to choose to surrender their parental rights? Even if there was no change made to how abortion laws currently work? If not, there's goes your belief that you'd vote to make people's lives better without expecting reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:36 AM
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Nor does every woman need an abortion so I feel like the comparison works. Also, I'm glad you support men's rights but do you expect women to get theirs before men's? As in you wouldn't support men's rights to choose if abortion wasn't first legal everywhere all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:34 AM
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This tired ass argument. There's more abortions happening today after Roe vs Wade was repealed than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:32 AM
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Don't make this universal. The issue is misandry. Always has been. Most people respect the idea of bodily autonomy when it comes to women. The male disposability effect is perverse in our society and all men carry with them this internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:13 AM
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I hate when feminists try to act like they know what's best for men. I hate when they play this ploy where if men help women enough, it'll help men. This is the same flawed reasoning of trickle down economics. I hope more men get smart to these tactics. You know what actually helps men avoid paying child support? Financial abortions, where men have the choice very early on in pregnancy to opt out of parenthood in all ways. Women only support this idea begrudgingly, arguing that this requires abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:10 AM
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I already answered your question that was like "lalala I'm testing you" and you responded that I was making an assumption of you. I don't even know what we're doing here anymore. Btw men today who say things like women did nothing for all of society are ultimately powerless since they're lower on the totem pole than women. It's similar to the idea that black people being racist to white people doesn't matter because they don't have the institutional power to do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:42 AM
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I don't blame my ancestors who were men for the way things are. I blame the people alive today who hold the power for not using their power to equalize things. To me that's the 1% men > 95% of women > 99% of men. I personally blame the 1% of men and majority of women for the majority of injustices in the society I live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:28 AM
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So how do you disagree? How could a man live his life in such a way that women considering him creepy isn't his problem, but their problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:53 AM
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I never claimed you were breaking the rules of this subreddit, I simply pointed out that you are adding absolutely nothing to the discussion and it's a waste of both our times for you to reply unless you want to debate. Everyone here is entitled to their opinion that goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:44 AM
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Social is about power. Social power exists and it's ignorant to deny that. What does men's choice have to do with the idea that women have more social power? Do you think men should only approach women who have less social power than them? Social proofing is the idea that women value what other women think about a man a great amount. So if a woman thinks a man is creepy she'll tell all her friends and they'll take her opinion into heavy consideration if they interact with him. Some argue this ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:12 AM

Talking to you has made me feel like I'm losing brain cells. What are you even doing here? Duh no shit everyone is entitled to their opinion. I engaged with you because I disagree that the consequences for men are as mild as making a bad joke. If you disagree, you're welcome to debate why with me. If you see it as a waste of time or something, then just don't reply. I can't believe I just explained the internet to you. I know you're a stranger but please show me the basic courtesy of sparing me …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:03 AM
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Alright well I'm telling you then that most younger men have weighted the risk and benefits and see it as no longer worth it. Part of our assessment is we don't think the risk is as light as making a bad joke so it was wrong of you to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:50 PM
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What part of what I said is an excuse and not a reality. Which of these is false? Men have less social power. Women value social proofing of men. One characteristic that makes someone more likely to be considered creepy is being male. Given the above, it's reasonable to conclude that men are more likely to experience social consequences than women and those social consequences affect men more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:47 PM
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Men having miscommunications and making embarrassing mistakes have greater consequences than women doing the same. The social consequences are higher for men since we don't have as much social power since we aren't as intertwined into relationship dynamics and are more susceptible to social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:40 PM
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Maybe the relationship has just become too awkward to continue. If a woman doesn't put any effort into maintaining the friendship after the awkwardness has developed, a man shouldn't be expected to be burdened entirely by it so if he chooses to check out that doesn't mean the whole friendship was a lie. She just didn't value the friendship enough to overcome the awkwardness with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:37 PM
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If someone thinks way too much about what the correct way is for them and too little about the correct way for others, they could turn into a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:34 PM
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Ideally and morally, women aren't entitled to anything from men other than common courtesy. If you feel uncomfortable by a man just happening to exist, walking behind you, that's your problem. However, given that women generally hold more social power due to being more intertwined in relationship dynamic, men face a lot of consequences by making women uncomfortable and being considered creepy. Women generally value social proof a lot more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:33 PM
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Isn't the point of a date to supposed to be a chance for you to have that person's attention to attempt to seduce them? How do you seduce someone if you don't have their attention? How do you do that before the stage of asking them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:22 PM
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Even if you do all these things, there's no guarantee you won't be interpreted as creepy. Given the social consequences for being seen as creepy as a man are large (since women are more intertwined in social dynamics and thus have greater social power) it's not neurotic for men to be concerned about this. It should also be noted that of the many things that can make someone seem creepy such as being greasy, having a mental illness, not making eye contact, one of them is being male. Now what do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:18 PM
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I promise you don't have the male experience and you don't understand how extremely easy it is for a man to make a woman uncomfortable or scared. I notice even the slightest sudden move can accomplish that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:09 PM
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I think men wouldn't worry about it as much if there weren't such drastic consequences for getting it wrong. If a joke doesn't land it's no biggie. Do you think women's attitude toward men encourages them to feel like it's okay if they don't approach the right way? If not, then it's understandable why men are so cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:07 PM
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You know in hospitals we put bands on patients so staff can identify something about them and treat them accordingly. If a patient is a fall risk, they'll have a colored band so we can easily tell we're not suppose to let them get up alone. I think maybe some women should wear a red band for example that indicates to men "Don't interact with me unless it's an absolute necessity such as you need to get by or you're serving me as a worker bee." It'd make things easier for everyone. Normal people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:04 PM
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It should matter what you do in a relationship but everything you do should be approached with your partner being attracted to you. If I'm in a relationship, I'd be very graceful and understanding with mistakes because I love this person in part because I'm physically attracted to them. I don't think men can say they experience the same. Also, men aren't a monolith hun. I don't think women should give men a chance that they're not attracted. I literally just said the exact opposite didn't I? Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:00 PM
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I find female sexuality to be abhorrent because it's hinged strictly on what you do for her rather than your immutable characteristics. You're never loved for who you are and made to feel special. You've just put enough effort points in the vending machine to dispense "feel good about you" points in her brain. If you know you'll ever only feel lukewarm attraction at best to men, it's genuinely evil to waste men's time by being in a relationship them. Most men make the mistake of thinking female …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:42 PM
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You can't be a feminist if you don't believe in the patriarchy. I believe not only does the patriarchy not exist, but patriarchy theory is deeply hurtful to men and all feminists are perpetuating misandry for pushing it. That makes me anything but a feminist even though I believe women deserve equal rights to men.] Who cares that they're funded differently that's still irrelevant because they're both things in the same discussion that men are paying more for these things and benefit less from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:28 PM
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I don't benefit from women getting pregnant so it wouldn't make sense to tax me at a higher rate. Women don't do anything more than me for my benefit. I do however do something more than them for their benefit which is be a net tax payer to support the social services that they benefit a lot more from than me. I'm cucked lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:25 PM
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My HSA and 401k technically so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:22 PM
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Women demand equity for getting pregnant all the time. It’s called expecting men to be richer than them and provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:53 PM
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To check your privilege and see if you’re a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:52 PM
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Explain how a single man benefits from childcare. If you can’t, don’t reply instead of providing content less rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:48 PM
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I don’t have to be a feminist to support women’s rights. Someone who believes in equal rights for all should oppose feminism/misandry. I never mentioned public roads either. There are more ways people benefit from society than just public roads, like social services for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:10 PM
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No they won’t. If I go my whole life single, I won’t benefit. Oh so now women care about population collapse? You’re not entitled to women having and raising children though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:08 PM
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Boys don’t exclusively benefit from childcare. Women parent daughters too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:06 PM
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Nope you fucking don’t stop the cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:54 PM
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Made whole means to be payed back a debt. Like if I go to a prison as a drug dealer and refuse to rat out my boss, my boss pays my family to make them whole for me keeping my mouth shut for my boss. So what are women giving up to men specifically in return for benefitting more from social services? It can’t be childcare because both boys and daughters benefit from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:53 PM
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If I’m not owed anything then I shouldn’t have to unequally provide more. I shouldn’t have to be a net taxpayer if I won’t benefit from anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:50 PM
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I already am. I’m registered for the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:49 PM
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No you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:48 PM
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It is relevant. The whole point is that we should be equal. When one sex does something more the other does something more. Both men and women benefit from being raised. Being a net taxpayer isn’t a benefit it’s a burden. That’s the thing that men are doing something more in. What are men exclusively benefitting from being net taxpayers that women don’t get?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:48 PM
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You’re already made whole for being the primary caretakers by men being the primary workers as the backbone of society. What makes men whole for not receiving as many social services? What are women giving up in return for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:45 PM
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Yes I am. If not reparations then what am I entitled to for this inequality. If nothing then how do we balance this inequality. The goal of liberals is to balance all inequalities, not just the ones that benefit men more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:42 PM
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No but the oppression of my people is fierce and perverse. Next they’ll come for me if we let the oppression of other men slide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:38 PM
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You don’t care about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:38 PM
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Men are net tax contributors. Women are net tax burdens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:37 PM
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I’ll take it up with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:37 PM
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Poor people deservingly so since they work much harder than rich people and rich people will still live amazing lives regardless. This isn’t analogous to what we’re talking about here. Women don’t work much harder than men so there’s no good reason for them to benefit more from social services.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:36 PM
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Since I’ll die much sooner and I’ll also receive much less government services.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:34 PM
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I think both men and women contribute a lot to society but men get a lot less back from society as evident by receiving a lot less in government services.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:33 PM
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I mean even if ignore those things (which I wouldn’t say it’s fair to ignore like what legitimate reason is there to ignore them) women benefit a lot more from healthcare than men across all age ranges. It is unfair that women live longer and alive women should have to pay reparations to men. Liberals and feminists are all about equity until its women’s turn to give back more than they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:32 PM
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Women also benefit from being raised. This isn’t something exclusive to men. Women exclusively benefit from men being net taxpayers by being rewarded a lot more in social services and living longer. What do men exclusively benefit from women being the primary caretakers? I would disagree with you even if daughters somehow didn’t exist and men exclusively benefited from being raised because I don’t consider being raised to be a benefit. Children are owed a responsibility to be raised and this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:29 PM
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I’m owed reparations because you’ll live longer and benefit more from social services than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:17 PM
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Which gender benefits more from social security and healthcare?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:14 PM
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Children are entitled to being raised. They’re owed this responsibility because they didn’t choose to be born. Children don’t owe their parents or society anything in return for being raised. Do you really want to argue it’s okay for me to have a worse quality of life than women just because I was raised? That I’m forever indebted and need to pay this back?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:13 PM
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There’s a pretty big difference there. You’re comparing the top 1% which would live amazing lives regardless to men. Men pay much more in taxes yet aren’t entitled to anything. Imagine being a single man who will die much sooner than women yet receive a fraction of the government services they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:09 PM
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When taxes benefit women a lot more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:55 PM
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So you’re saying it’s all equal and our efforts are balanced out but that’s not true. Women will benefit from men’s end regardless. Women need to do nothing to benefit from men paying much more taxes. You’re entitled to those government services. How does a single man benefit from women’s end? She’s not raising my child is she?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:48 PM
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Could women have built civilization without men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:45 PM
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Who benefits more from social services men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:45 PM
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Women’s taxes go a lot more toward other women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:41 PM
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Why should I have to pay as much taxes as a woman since she’ll benefit from government a lot more than me because I’ll die sooner? Women should pay a reparations tax.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:39 PM
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Men as a collective get less government services back than they pay in taxes. That’s not fair is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:36 PM
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Many of my people (men) are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:31 PM
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Do you think women are entitled to anything due to all the unpaid labor they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:30 PM
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You’re taking about egalitarianism. Feminism takes it one step further by requiring the belief in patriarchy theory. If you don’t believe in patriarchy, you’re not a feminist. Go to the ask feminists subreddit if you want more clarification and they’ll tell you the necessity of patriarchy theory in feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:01 PM
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I speak from a western lens but generally I support feminism in shithole countries like Afghanistan. I think it’s more important to free those woman from the oppressive systems they’re in than confronting the problematic misandry rooted in feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:59 PM
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Continue being a misandrist not like I expected any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:55 PM
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I don’t care. Who are the majority of teachers? Women. Who are teachers biased toward in grading? Girls. Coincidence? No this is just the female in group bias resulting in misandry. What’s fucked up is you think it’s perfectly fine that most teachers are treating LITERAL BOYS!! worse for nothing more than what they genitals they have. Is that how you fight patriarchy by punishing little boys. Wow you’re so strong and brave. Grown adults taking their anger out on kids it’s messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:55 PM

They’re not related. Boys are easier is misandry. Women aren’t forced to confront their misandry because we live in a society that reinforces the belief that women are beautiful in all ways. If you believe you are perfect, you’d never examine yourself. You’re confused about what liberals actually are. They’re liberal when it comes to women but they’re not really liberal when it comes to men. 99% of people still operate in their treatment of men with a very traditional lens. Liberals are part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:49 PM

Okay does watching MMA make me want to throw a Mfer down? It’s actual humans in the actual real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:45 PM
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All women enforce traditional gender roles all the time and at no point any less than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:14 AM

Ask me how I knew you were going to either make it about misogyny or excuse women’s involvement? How would liberals be more likely to examine their misandry if they’ll just use mental gymnastics to absolve accountability? What’s more important? Confronting misandry or maintaining the women are wonderful effect status quo?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:13 AM
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Feminists can acknowledge the oppression of men and they do because they frequently say "the patriarchy hurts men too!" Patriarchy theory inherently diminishes the oppression of men. The belief that men are central oppressors means we must first and foremost focus on women's rights. All feminists believe in patriarchy theory that's literally the only prerequisite to being a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:42 AM
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Not to boys. Remember how in the 60s when women were oppressed by the lack of educational opportunity? Boys right now in this very moment are further behind than girls in education than the situation in the 60s. Boys don't have an equal right to education right now. You can't say they do in the current system where it's been studied again and again that boys receive lower marks for the same work. Teachers have an anti-boy bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:26 AM
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Capitalism is a problem because it oppresses poor people. Feminism is a problem because it oppresses men. There are many problematic things in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:24 AM
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Women aren't a system but they are 50% of the system. Women oppress men just as much as men oppress men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:22 AM
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That's literally what I've said in multiple comments like almost word for word. This is also one reason why I'll never be a feminist because they are all misandrists. Men are just as oppressed as women and saying otherwise means you're a bigot and a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:18 AM
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Don't get me wrong it's horrible but it's true that being male makes your life worth less and you're also less deserving of being saved. I think most boys pick up on this anyway with things like being condemned for crying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/25 05:42 AM
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Children have a right to education.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:42 AM
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That's very reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:35 AM
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No but they're perfectly fine with saying men are all lazy pieces of shit and that's why they're struggling more academically. Not a single feminist will accept that education is biased towards girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:33 AM
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Is patriarchy as oppressive to men as women? Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:32 AM
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Sexual assault statistics have been raped by feminists. Feminists have even raped the CDC into counting male sexual assault victims as female.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:31 AM
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I'd break up on the spot. If a woman doesn't find you hot or exciting, she's just wasting your time and will set a bunch of rules for the relationship that she wouldn't if she was actually attracted to you. Never settle for anything less than her best because if she loves you she'd give her best.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:24 AM
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That's the result of the gynocracy and not women's superior abilities in self control and responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:21 AM
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I mean ideally for you as a woman you'd only ever be approached by the finest and highest status men out there but that's just not realistic without chaining men down mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:17 AM
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That doesn't seem analogous to me because if I'm not remotely attracted to men, I wouldn't want any to approach me but we're suppose to believe women are attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:16 AM
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So she had time to sit there watching him put up a mirror which means it's not a lack of effort or time stopping her from doing it herself but just incompetence. Putting up a mirror is so easy that not being able to do it yourself means this woman is weaponizing incompetence. Nah but fr I don't think this is how it would actually go. If someone asked me how to put up a mirror I wouldn't do it for them and I'd just tell them to look it up. Only if I feel like something is complex will I actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:13 AM
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They're embarrassed and trying to save face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:05 AM
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No that's not what you said. You said patriarchy hurts men too. You're not a real feminist because feminists believe that while patriarchy hurts everyone, it still benefits men over women and men are more privileged because of that. You really need to learn true feminism. Go to the ask feminists subreddit and learn your people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:57 AM
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Yes you did. Classic blue pill type shit to try to gaslight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:55 AM
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The lack of precision in what you say reveals a lot. Be a grown adult and own your opinions. You're no different than any other feminist. Feminists believe while patriarchy primarily benefits a small number of men, all men benefit from the patriarchy to oppress women and are privileged over women by it. This victimhood complex is why I'll never be a feminist because I believe men are equally as oppressed as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:55 AM
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Please step back for a second and ask yourself if you're arguing with me just because I'm arguing with a woman or if you're actually trying to make a point. If it's the latter, do you not realize your comment is irrelevant? She said that Khan has innate and acquired qualities that made him attractive to women. It wasn't the status, money, or fame that made him such a success. So I'll ask you the same question I asked her, what are those qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:52 AM
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The vast majority of feminists claim that even though patriarchy primarily benefits men in power, that it also benefits men in general over women. This misandrist thinking is why I'll never be a feminist because I don't believe men in general are more privileged than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:48 AM
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Do you believe men are held to just as much conflicting standards under this patriarchy as women are? If you don't, then you're just a misandrist bigot. The definition of patriarchy according to feminism is nothing more than traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:43 AM
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You remove agency when you claim people are just sheep to the whims of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:41 AM
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If feminists believed men are as oppressed as women under the patriarchy sure I'd buy it. This is often just the definition they fall back to when you ask them to define patriarchy while using it to mean something a lot larger and perverse. If patriarchy is really just that, then you can't say everything women do is the result of the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:41 AM
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Liberal or conservative, the vast majority of women are devout misandrists that neglect boys believing boys are easier. I find liberal women are much less likely to own their mistreatment than conservative women because they tend to have a moral righteous to believe they can't do wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:38 AM
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No one's forcing you to jump through them unless you felt entitled to promotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:36 AM
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Ew is my disgust towards the constant oppression olympics that women play to have convinced themselves they're the primary victims of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:37 AM
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Any woman who sympaizes with men at even a modicum amount would denounce feminism for the misandry it spreads and recognize patriarchy theory demonizes men. The vast majority of women aren't like but go around saying dumb shit like patriarchy hurts men too! I doubt you're a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:35 AM
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Do you believe video games cause violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:31 AM
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Liberal women will do everything but parent their children. The government isn't your child's mommy or daddy. You are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:30 AM
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So what innate qualities did Genghis Khan have that made him so attractive to women and successful? Try to answer this while mantaining the "women are beautiful effect". You can't say women are attracted to rapists that would mean women aren't beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:25 AM
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You're not entitled to promotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:21 AM
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This isn't patriarchy. This is traditional gender roles. Patriarchy is a retarded theory unless you admit men are just as oppressed by it as women. If you don't, it's nonsense that no self respecting man should take seriously unless they're a cucked male feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:20 AM
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Can we remove the agency of men just as much as women then? Can we recognize men also live in society and are pressured by it just as much as women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:19 AM
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Patriarchy theory is retarded nonsense unless you admit that men are just as oppressed as women so then we're just arguing semantics about what the system is called. You can call it patriarchy then but I'll call it traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:18 AM

So you think men should be desperate beggars who take what they can get?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:11 AM
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Okay and taller men are more likely to have back problems. Wealthier men are more likely to be morally bankrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:06 AM
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First is much more real. Your physical attractiveness is innately tied to who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:11 AM
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As a woman, would you rather criminal and low IQ men drop out of the dating pool? Of course you would even though this means there are less men in it and thus the competition for men is greater.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:58 AM
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I would argue loving someone for your physical attraction to them is a lot more real than loving them for their wallet. The former is a lot more intrinsically who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:56 AM
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So men are acting like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:42 AM
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So let's suck you off for a second and pretend that men are wrong and women are right. What if everyone acted like women? If men stopped being attracted to most woman, they would make a lot less effort in courting which means a lot less LTRs. Is this ideal? Also, that argument is stupid because it's saying that heterosexual women are as attracted to men as heterosexual men are attracted to men. I would hope the first is much larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:06 AM
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That's unrealistic because in a world where we value free will, there will always be the 0.01% that use their free will to ignore all of the rules of society because they are depraved outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:01 AM
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That all sounds very nice but I have absolutely zero trust in women as a collective (except for the few women I'm close to). Feminists for a long time deluded men into supporting them and that they'll reciprocate but they're hypocrites that pull the ladder up from under them. They'll in one breath say that feminism is about equality so all men should be feminists if they want better lives but then say feminism has no place for helping men and men should start their own movement. Feminism is comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:00 AM
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Who said they want to only have sex with people they hate? I think very close to all men would prefer to have sex with women they like but beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:47 AM

Like I said so what? Men's sexual preferences come from paternal insecurity. Women's sexual preferences come from insecurity that low status men won't provide for their offspring. Insecurity is logical and serves to protect us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:09 AM
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I think a lot of women at best feel a lukewarm attraction to their partner that is formed from what he does for her and means to her compared to the visceral attraction that most men feel to their partners that is not reliant on anything from her except her existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:41 AM

I'm not claiming a moral high ground. My behavior isn't noble or just. It just is. I don't believe my behavior is wrong so what do I need to take accountability for? Do you believe it's wrong for you to prefer tall men or be disgusted by bisexual men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:32 AM
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Do you say this "touch grass" shit whenever liberals on reddit are crying about how the world is ending because women can't have abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:20 AM

So fucking what if the preference is out of insecurity? You think women are primarily attracted to taller men and turned off by bisexual men out of anything but insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:45 AM

Do you believe female sexuality is less perverse than male?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:42 AM

Men are disgusted by promiscuous women because we have a biologically ingrained insecurity of paternity insecurity. Men's reproductive strategy is to spread our seed far and wide, which can be described as conquest to explain why they want to possess and dominate. Promiscuous women are conquered by other men and carrying their children, not mine. We shouldn't moralize men's sexual preferences as noble or perverted. It just is. It's not like women's sexual preferences are noble either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:38 AM

What does it say about women that the majority of them are repulsed by bisexuality in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:31 AM

Women are a rounding error in their contributions to the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:28 AM

We're on an anonymous text forum. Places like this are the only places where men can be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:26 AM

Men don't need to pretend their preferences are moral. We're not women. We don't need to constantly reinforce the idea that we're morally superior to protect the societal attitude that "women are beautiful" which grants us social power. Men's preferences are from biological instinct. Promiscuous women indicate paternal uncertainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:24 AM

Well since you're curious I'll explain. Men are all in a competition with each other. A man wins when his conquest is greater than other men. Men are only repulsed by promiscuous women if they're not the man they're promiscuous with. That means he's not reproducing and passing his genes, but other man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:21 AM
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Or maybe women should be different. What makes you think the womanly mindset towards sex is the right way?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:07 AM
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Any woman not in the ultimate DLC version of the hijab is a WHORE!111
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:13 AM
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Why be mad at men for pursuing their biological instinct? Just accept it and live your life accordingly around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:20 AM
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Mfers doing mental gymnastics to act like working a job isn't the #1 way that people contribute to society. Also, there's a difference between contribution to society and exploitation. Both are true. Men and single men especially are the backbone of society. Without them, society crumbles. Women are too precious and high value to do the dirty work that men do. That also means men are exploited. Feminism has made sure women don't respect the authority of men. So now men have all the responsibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:59 PM
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Working long hours literally means you're contributing to society lmfao. Not only through your fucking job that you're doing for longer than most, you're also paying the most taxes. Single mothers aren't raising jack shit. Single mothers are in charge of making sure their children have full bellies and are clothed, but they rarely provide guidance to develop well adjusted adults. Especially if they're caring for boys where they'll operate with a "boys are easy" attitude and then wonder why their…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:43 PM
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How is this true though? Aren't single men the largest net contributors? Single men take up the least amount of resources to sustain themselves. Single men are also most likely to work long hours because they don't have anything else going on in their lives. The people who contribute the society and are the biggest tax burdens are single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:21 PM
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Do you think men only deserve life if they are dads, husbands, or brothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:41 PM
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The emphatic and morally superior gender:
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:39 PM
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Are you woman enough to admit that those things you did were misandry? Congratulations on being able to be less misandrist but admitting is the first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:28 PM
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If you believe men are more disposable, you don't believe men are equally deserving of life. Why do misandrists never own that shit outright? Just take the gloves off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:28 PM
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Making those insults is misandry because you're not considering the men you're indirectly harming. It's the same if I called women fat despicable whores when they act morally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:25 PM
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Women who aren't beautiful are treated like men. It says a lot about you people that you'd do anything to not be treated like a man. Men aren't forcing you to wear makeup. Keep crying about societal pressure while ignoring personal accountability. Then in another comment you'll say you're a girl boss. A girl boss yet a poor little victim who can't make her own choices? Hypocritical much?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:02 PM
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I didn't oppress anyone. If anything, I'm more oppressed than my female peers. They're more educated than me, earn more money, are more likely to own houses, have better social networks. You can call me a retarded lazy loser but if I was just one case, I'd agree. The fact that this is true universally in western countries across men compared to women means something bigger is going on. It's misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:28 PM
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Could say the same about women. Besides pussy, what does she have? She's likely a misandrist and not emotionally in tune with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:17 PM
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Even expecting payment for the first date is trashy entitled behavior enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:13 PM
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Doing your makeup doesn't entitle you to a man's money. I thought you mfers claim you do it for yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:12 PM
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So you are redpill right? Then you must believe there is a reason men were selectively bred t o be individualist. It's because individualism in men is what women desire most since it leads to the most potential for acquiring resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:53 PM
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Yet women whine 24/7 about men not being devout feminists are all misogynists. If I have to believe I'm an oppressor to not be a bad person, then fuck your entire ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:52 PM
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That's because women have a massive in-group bias. Their misandry does not allow them to view men as equals. Even men have a bias towards women. This does not make you morally superior. This just makes you more selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:51 PM
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Can feminists do anything without whining about patriarchy constantly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:50 PM

You're using the feminist logic of focusing on the top 1% who happen to be men while ignoring the 99% of men who are on the floor much lower than women. Take an average woman and an average man. Who is more likely to be successful in the USA for example? Who is more likely to be educated? Who is more likely to have social fulfillment? Who is less likely to be homeless or in jail?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:30 AM

The patriarchy doesn't exist. Feminism is the enemy because feminism makes people believe the patriarchy exists and demonizes men. Men aren't falling behind in education just because vulnerability in men is demonized. Men in general are demonized as worthless pieces of shit. Look at male disposability theory. No one gives a fuck about men. Look up the empathy gap. Again, no one gives a fuck about men. The patriarchy hurts men too is just more feminist crap to maintain their victimhood even in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:28 AM

loooolll hahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:26 AM

Hmmm I wonder why people don't like being identified as rapists and murderers just for happening to be born into the wrong sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:25 AM

I don't think women will ever be bold enough to strip men of the right to vote but the kicking them out of college thing is becoming reality more and more every day. Did you know, in higher education, the percentage of men compared to women is less than there ever was a percentage of women compared to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:25 AM

Who holds social power in our culture? Is it men or is it women. A man and a woman have a disagreement. Who is society generally willing to agree with? Who makes the ground rules for what is socially acceptable and moral?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:20 AM

All women hate men to some degree. All women profile men as rapists until proven otherwise. Even if this were not true and only some women hate men, men have no idea of knowing who the good women are that don't hate men. You have an imperative to preserve the women are beautiful effect to maintain women's position as morally superior to men. This is the only reason why you go on and on about what great work women do to care for men. Women only care for boys because they can't claim to be morally…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:16 AM

Nope. That's called egalitarianism. The difference between that and feminism is one believes in patriarchy theory, which places women as morally superior to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:09 AM

I'll give you the same speech that women love to give to men. A lot of women see men as nothing more than the dirt they step on and avoid them in life except when they have to like for business. You'll defend this behavior because "Oh it's just poor little me trying to protect myself from living in constant fear of the patriarchy." Likewise, you're not entitled to have any value in the eyes of men such as to be seen as anything more than a disgusting whore. You're owed professionalism and bodily…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:07 AM

That fear is socialized into them due to a misandrist matriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:57 AM

Misandry is far more prevalent in western society than misogyny. No one gives a fuck about men falling behind in education much more than women ever did in the most misogynistic of times. That's real misandry. Feminists invent misogyny because they don't have any problems left.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:56 AM

No but it's misandry to call men rapists and murders in the hopes that some woman picks you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:54 AM

Misandrists play that victim shit to maintain their power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:54 AM

Please avoid men en masse. Let men work in peace. Go gay for each other. Go wear a future is female shirt too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:53 AM

Misandry creates misogyny. You first mfer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:51 AM

Misandry like this creates misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:51 AM

From a man's perspective, there's no incentive to be one of the good ones for people who hate you. They'll hate you anyway no matter how much you be a good one. You'll occasionally get treats, but you'll never be accepted into the palace for the simple fact of owning a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:50 AM

Feminism is literally the belief that everything is men's fault so right back at you mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:48 AM

Rape not being properly prosecuted is not misogyny. You wouldn't argue misandry is the reason why so many crimes against men happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:46 AM

Advocating for men to value women less isn't misogyny. It's advocating for men to be independent and free from the powers of women. If you think it's misogynistic for women to not have power over men, that says a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:45 AM

If you went to r/Feminism and ask, they would say misogyny is only increasing. This makes sense because the whole point of feminism is fear mongering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:44 AM
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Women don't have the luxury to focus on themselves because they have to luxury to demand men be better than them. Show me a study that shows women are attracted to kind men. You can't because empathy and kindness doesn't turn women on. Status, competence, and confidence are the markers that women are attracted to. I know you know this but it's okay to not admit it because you have to protect the belief that women are morally superior to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:31 PM
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I 100% understand why they're cautious, but I also heavily discourage men being kind to the people who consider them rapists by default. They are owed basic respect but their attitude toward your humanity should not be rewarded with anything more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:13 PM
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Women work a lot less hours than men. A woman who works 10 hours a week is part of the workforce statistic the same as a man who works 70. Who do you think can more easily balance work and other things in life? When my time isn't spent working for money, it's spent working on improving myself so I can be higher status. You think women are attracted to empathy, humility, and kindness? Of course not because when women are vulnerable, empathy will do jack shit for them. Your resources and capabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:10 PM
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Nah understand this. Women have a biological imperative to attract men with the most resources. Men recognize this which is why they aim to have the most resources, which typically comes from their career. How is volunteering going to help a man acquire resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:57 PM
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Why would I offer an umbrella to someone who has profiled me as a rapist before I even spoke to them? Why be nice to the people who hate you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:18 PM
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The vast majority of women do nothing to go against the society pummeling them with messages of misandry. They never question the message because it's not them that are negatively affected. We need to stop pretending feminism is some underground movement and the women in it are taking an active stance against society. At this point, feminism is the zeitgeist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:07 PM

Men have to play oppression olympics to remind women that we're human too, the same as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:57 PM

Yes because of socioeconomic and cultural factors like teachers being biased in grading girls higher than boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:49 PM

That comes with pros and cons. There's a flip side to being a petite woman and it's that no one is scared of you. You don't ever have to think if you're walking too fast behind someone or if you suddenly move too fast. People are much more likely to approach you, be friendly with you, and trust you. You're not seen as an inherent danger until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:47 PM
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Society decided for me. Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I have any more agency than women do. That's misogynistic remember? All women's problems are because of society so therefore all men's problems are because of society too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:42 PM
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Those men are working they don't have time to volunteer. Men aren't privileged like women are where they can afford to not have their career at the center of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:37 PM
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What's your profession? I don't care anyway because you're just appealing to authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:57 PM
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I'm pro-choice too but I honestly don't really care as long as women don't care about men having the option to forgo parenthood including financial abortion. The government would never go for that because they need their men to be slaves to the illegitimate children so I guess we're at an impasse where everyone is unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:09 PM
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They're all female coded anyway. https://youtu.be/urnwxC8VQfM.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:07 PM
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I don't pay for services that are not guaranteed. If she wants me to do something for her before she agrees to have my children, the best I'll do is a legally binding contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:58 PM
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You really don't understand. Both men and women have a choice. They choose to have consensual sex. You still have that choice even in a society where you can't have an abortion. Women being able to have an abortion is an extra choice on top of the choice they already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:57 PM
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Don't say a claim is objectively false just because you're ignorant. Don't be a close minded woman that's part of the problem. Believing all men means hearing them out, not taking everything they say as fact. This is the one of the only female psychologists worth a damn because she recognizes that gynocentric psychology underrepresents men. * https://youtu.be/jJU9AMrT8j4 * https://youtu.be/urnwxC8VQfM I can't in good faith recommend my fellow brothers seek therapy when this is what they'd be dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:55 PM
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We need more woman like you then. Women with an instinct to jump into action and not scream.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:50 PM
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Sex already comes with a punishment and that's the risk of pregnancy. Either accept that or don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:48 PM
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I see no reason for relationships to not be 50/50 until a woman is pregnant. You say magically but I see nothing magical about it. It's purely logical to not provide for someone that hasn't done something for you yet. I'd rather kill myself than be stuck with a woman like you who thinks I should worship the ground she has just because of her vagina. I have too much integrity for that life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:21 PM
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Feel free to call me a misogynist instead of making the real argument. Go ahead and get the last word in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:18 PM
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It's funny to talk about stolen valor when Gen Z women in 2025 still use the women couldn't vote claim for their argument in why women are oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:12 PM
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Most techniques that therapists advise to their clients are female coded and based around female psychology. When men say therapy doesn't work for them, we should listen instead of victim blaming. #BelieveAllMen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:11 PM
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The only requirement between all branches of feminism is patriarchy theory. To be a feminist, you must believe in patriarchy theory. I don't believe in patriarchy theory therefore I'm not a feminist. I don't have to believe in patriarchy theory to advocate for the rights of women. All feminists are radical feminists because all feminists believe in patriarchy theory. The idea itself is extreme and radical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:06 PM
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Claiming that women experience sexual assault at higher rates than men is pushing men away because it reduces support for men who experience sexual assault. Having greater pay than men for the same work pushes men away. I feel the same way. Until men's issues are resolved, I rightfully couldn't care less about women's issues and they are just a meaningless distraction that they should fix themselves. After all, why should I help my oppressors first?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:04 PM
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I have agency over my life. I accept responsibility for all my actions. That doesn't mean I can't recognize that the culture I live in is largely decided by women. I've never seen a man decide what is acceptable or isn't morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:00 PM
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No men never get that sympathy. Even if they're teenagers, they're told what failures they are for not keeping it in their pants. What you're missing is you're not entitled to sex. You are not required to have sex. You choose to have sex knowing the risk of pregnancy. The #1 birth control is abstinence followed by condoms and this is fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:57 PM
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Tough titties. Pregnancy is the risk you take when you have sex. No one would have any sympathy for a man that uses birth controls but it fails and now he's responsible for a child he didn't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:56 PM
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People already use the "keep it in your pants" argument all the time for men. You're just mad that I'm using it for women because I'm not a misogynist who considers women to have less agency over their choices than men. Even if women can't have abortions, they still have the same choice as men do over having consensual sex. I'm more egalitarian than you because you don't think women have a choice if they can't get abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:54 PM
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Yeah but not every woman I date/court is going to birth my child. Do you think my future wife would appreciate that I spent so many resources dating/courting women who repayed me with nothing? Why should I put in unequal effort with nothing guaranteed in return? She's not putting in more effort than me until she bears a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:51 PM
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I am literally always the person performing first aid and calling the ambulance. Does that come after the 5 minutes of shaking and crying and screaming? I'd put money that in a crisis, this behavior is much more frequent in women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:45 PM
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This sounds like something people in a relationship should communicate with each other. Personally, I don't expect a woman to give birth to children if she doesn't want to we can just adopt. I don't think it's fair to me to treat me less than 50/50 just because you might give birth to children. If we both decide to have children, then we can have a discussion about how to try to make up for that inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:42 PM
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Goes both ways. No man wants to be treated less than just because he's not capable of birthing a child. If you expect men to handle all the romance, all the courtship and justify it because there's a small possibility you'd have his child, that's not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:37 PM
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That's a risk you accept when you play baseball. Don't want to be injured? Don't play baseball. The pitcher is just as liable as you but he doesn't excuse your share because you chose to play the fucking sport where you can get injured! No one would give a man any sympathy if he used birth control yet his sexual partner still got pregnant and now he's liable for a child he didn't want. You're an adult with agency, with that comes responsibility for your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:35 PM
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Do you think the compensation that men do for these tasks should come earlier in a relationship. If so, do you think it makes sense to compensate for tasks that haven't even been done yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:23 PM
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You're welcome to hold it over men their entire lives and have this be the justification for why men should worship the ground that women walk on and put in 1000% more effort in courting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:19 PM
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Do you agree with the men that make those arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:13 PM
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Outside of rape, every woman chooses to get pregnant by having sex. Let's remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:13 PM
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Go to therapy is just what women say to shut men up when they express their issues because women have an in-group bias and a very limited capacity for empathy towards men. This field is mostly studied by women, on women, and for women. Even male therapists are operating on academia that is largely based around women. It's delusional to act like the underrepresentation of men wouldn't lead to some anti male bias. If someone can point to me a study where therapists aim to address the male bias in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:58 AM
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Men and women are different. This is the justification that many women use for their hypocritical standards like expecting men to put in 1000x more effort in courting them or desiring assertive strong men while being a passive wallflower herself. Anyone that even hints to men being misogynistic for preferring low n count women just needs to cope that men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:37 AM
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Men were not solely in power and never were. Even today, we ignore how power women have. Many pull the strings with a puppet man in front as a scapegoat. Culture and social dynamics are largely ruled by women. I believe in the scientific method and there is no scientific basis for patriarchy theory. It's also vaguely defined so as to preserve it as an unfalsifiable claim. I'm more capable of understanding nuance than you. I'm not like most common people that believe society is made up of conserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:07 AM
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No. If you looked at my flair you would know that's a stupid question but it's already answered under the egalitarian part. Why would someone who believes in egalitarianism believe society is worse when women have the right to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:03 AM
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Feminism has helped men in a very trickle down economics way but I would argue feminism has hurt men a lot more than it has helped by demonizing men thanks to their patriarchy theory. The reason why feminism is believed to be about equality by the majority is because feminists paint themselves as the moral arbiters of right and wrong. If I go outside and say I'm an anti-feminist, people would immediately assume I'm a misogynist who wants to take away women's rights. Feminism is the cultural zeit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:00 AM
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Sorry not sorry but from my perspective, feminists are oppressing me just as much as this administration. I think you're on the wrong side of history. Misandrist ideologies have no place in an egalitarian society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:05 AM
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Nothing you said is relevant to what I said. You accused me of being a manosphere bot off the jump because of misandry. I'm a male who is anti-feminist so I must believe in the manosphere or be misogynistic right? That's very close minded and bigoted. I'm not playing a boys against girls game. Men are losing their place in the world and society in general has less empathy for men. These are very serious issues and feminism needs to be called out for its contributions towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:50 AM
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Feminism influences global organizations to define rape the way they see it. https://np.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1lum0eb/fackcheckers_guide_how_to_combat_misinformation/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button It was not the patriarchy that wrote the policies that deny my victimization is possible. It was explicitly self-described feminist scholars.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:46 AM
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Feminists told me that. You think you're making a point by acting like I'm paranoid and delusional yet I could do the same act to a feminist proclaiming patriarchy is the reason for everything wrong in the world. You're in a cult that believes anyone who isn't a feminist is a supporter of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:41 AM
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They don't view you as an enemy. Feminism is not women. You don't have to hate women or women's rights to be anti-feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:32 AM
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Yet feminists will never call out a woman saying feminism is about equality because this false claim makes feminism out to be such a moral greatness that benefits all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:31 AM
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They did. Gender roles negatively impacted both sexes yet only one decided they're oppressed. Also, even if this mythical patriarchy once existed, it most certainly doesn't now in western societies. There's no basis for arguing that the people who earn more before having kids, hold more land ownership, are more educated, and respected in society are the same people who are oppressed. Women are minorities only in delusional feminist land.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:30 AM
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Feminists are not looking for equality. Feminists believe in patriarchy theory. Patriarchy theory contributes towards inequality against men by demonizing men as the oppressors, reducing attention to men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:27 AM
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If you look at the USA, the only institutional law currently in place that discriminates against any sex is conscription. Can you name a single law right now that discriminates women at the benefit of men? There never was a patriarchy. There were gender roles that hurt men just as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:10 AM
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Like I'm so confused why you feel the need to qualify a men's movement as non-misogynistic for it to be legitimate. It's like feminists are the unbiased arbiters of morality. If you're interested, I like r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates because it discusses men's issues from a non-feminist leftist perspective. You probably think it's misogynistic lmao but I don't care. r/MensLib is bad because it discusses men's issues from a feminism perspective which has all the pitfalls of self hate from patriarchy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:08 AM
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Men are absolutely justified in hating feminists who hate them back too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:04 AM
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That is no different than feminists explaining to men what male rights movements are and saying they're all misogynistic. I'm sure you automatically know that MRAs are misogynistic and feminism is the good ones since you're a woman right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:03 AM
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I support women advocating for equal rights but only without hurting advocacy for men. Feminism is misandrist since patriarchy theory places men as the oppressors which is hurting men by making society not want to support men's issues. I can advocate for women's equal rights without a hurtful ideology that hurts men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:03 AM
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Which is why feminism is inherently a movement that pushes society away from equality. You aren't fighting for equality when you encourage society to ignore men's issues because they're supposedly the oppressors. If a male movement posited that women are the oppressors, we would see as misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:00 AM
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Feminism is not about equality. Feminism is a misandrist movement. This is clear as day if you study patriarchy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:58 AM
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Men's liberation movements don't need the approval of women to legitimize them as not misogynistic. Feminists don't need the approval of men legitimizing it as not misandrist. Just because you're gynocentric, doesn't mean men have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:57 AM
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Could say the same as a man. All I have to do is exist and I'm an evil oppressor in your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:56 AM
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Feminism benefits men in the same way that trickle down economics benefits poor people. Sure it does a little but there are far more efficient uses of a man's time who wishes to advocate for men than being a feminist. Also, I would argue feminism hurts men a lot more than it helps thanks to feminism's patriarchy theory which demonizes men as the oppressors. A male right's advocate would be anti-feminist as he opposes bigotry and the harm it does against those it victimizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:54 AM
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So why should men be allies of an ideology that places them as oppressors and takes away their rights for the "equality" of women? Why do feminists act like any man who isn't a feminist must be a misogynist? Why do feminists make the claim that feminism is about equality, when it clearly is about equality for women? Why not finish the sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:52 AM
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Women are just as responsible for the existence of misogyny as men are. You can't disagree with this while also being a feminist that attributes all men's issues to men doing it to each other. Otherwise, you're being a misogynist by believing in female hypo agency and male hyper agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:52 AM
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You can apply this same quote to feminism. “Feminism constructed an elaborate fiction of a world that doesn’t exist (patriarchy), and convinced people they must engage and do battle with the fictionalized men within it. “
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:49 AM

Feminism is not necessary to preserve women's rights. You don't need to believe in patriarchy theory to believe in women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:48 AM
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If you don't know then why the hell make some assumption just to get your "win" in?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:46 AM

Do you think men are encouraged to not experience the full range of their emotions primarily due to other men, or is it the cause society as a whole; as in their parents, their peers, and their romantic pursuits? (If you’re a feminist ignore this question because I already know the answer is the patriarchy boogeyman)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:06 PM
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You think misandrists wear that on sleeves? Many women say vile things about the men they are trying to date. We should be saying the same thing we say to the men. They must be gay right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:03 PM
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As a man, I’m required to put in much more effort to court woman than they are or else accept being single. Yeah yeah you’re not entitled to relationships and no one is forcing you but it’s a sad situation men are in if they want to be in a relationship. I don’t have to want to enslave women to be resentful about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:58 PM
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Would you say the same of misandrist feminists who say they limit their interactions with men to a bare minimum? These people make themselves out to be so enlightened beyond normies yet they're just losers. If a woman has no male friends, that's a huge red flag for men looking to date her. Men are more than just the performative masculinity persona they put on with you in a romantic relationship. The male experience is valuable to understanding the human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:51 PM
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Nice straw man that's exactly what OP said. I don't even agree with them but this shit some of you women do where you get offended straight away and throw reading comprehension out the window is crazy. Like calm down honey take a breath and then logically argue why he's stupid. For one, not all relationships with women have to be romantic. Women can make great friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:49 PM
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Why do feminists complain about men being automatically more respected in leadership? It's pointless to complain when you can just put in the hard work as a woman and prove your leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:34 PM
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You believe these random women you've never even met? How do you even know they're women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:08 PM
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Do you think there are as many men that qualify as human beings to you as there are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:54 PM
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You need to educate yourself better instead of listening to the fascist cult of feminism. Notice how that cult never once mentions benevolent sexism against men? Because that would be ignoring the hostile sexism against women. Feminists use benevolent sexism to distract from men's issues to make it about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:52 PM
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I don't. I said the exact same thing you did. Why do you assume men don't have hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:50 PM
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But it's not sexism towards you. It's sexism towards primarily men. Benefitting you at the cost of men. The flip side to every case of benevolent sexism is hostile sexism. Hostile sexism is 1000% worse. You can't expect me to believe you're standing up against benevolent sexism because that would be standing up for men and we both know women have an insane in-group bias that removes their ability to emphasize with men as they're the out-group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:49 PM
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Q4W: Do you see men as complete human beings? Do you think men experience the full range of emotions and at an intensity that women do? Do you think men can be sensitive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:33 PM
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Do you think you are so enlightened and unlike other women that you can't possibly fall victim to the same bias that they do? How are so sure you don't perceive benevolent sexism as equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:29 PM
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Chess, playing piano, solving puzzles, video games, I go ice skiing enough to be a hobby ig. I want to pick up calisthenics but I'm still studying up on it before I give it a go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:28 PM
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Feminism relies on women maintaining their position as the oppressed and men as the oppressors. If you admit that men experience misandry, you start to chip away at men's position as the oppressors and you're threatening to crumble feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:13 PM
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So do most of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:13 PM
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Same but what's really funny is there are studies that show that women perceive men who treat them equally as misogynistic and benevolent sexism as equality. This is why I'll never care if I'm ever called a misogynist. Their baseline is out of wack.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:11 PM
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Women should have interests beyond social media, makeup, their nails (out of all parts of the human body why they disproportionately obsess over this tiny one is beyond me), reality TV, and drinking (Gen Z women drink far more than gen Z men.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:08 PM
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So you admit women are the privileged ones? Life isn't fair is a bullshit argument. Imagine if someone said that every time a feminist complained about an inequality. Life isn't fair only an argument used by misandrists to shut up men when they point out misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:06 PM
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And you worship solipsism. We all have our faults.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:52 PM
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Feminism is actually a real thing believe it or not. It's clearly observable unlike the patriarchy boogeyman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:51 PM
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Way to argue about something very specific pointlessly when we both know you get my point. Pick any of the other extremely small differences in makeup material that women will spend hours overthinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:50 PM
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Women get off so much on believing they’re so superior to men. You’re just people just like men. All that talk about men not seeing women as people is projection. Women don’t see men as their equal people. We’re something lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:14 PM
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Coming to you from the same sex that will spend hours debating between two different colors of the same blush that in the end look the exact same yet won’t put in those hours towards their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:11 PM
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Do women need to put in as much effort as men to court a date? No? Then your first reason is dumb af. You can’t blame men for not putting in effort when women don’t. Women fear rejection far greater than men. Then your next point is just blatant misandry that men are all lazy and women are such hard workers. More men than women are into exercise by the way and I mean real exercise that changes you physically. Not dog walking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:09 PM
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But why would I worry about the oligarchy? The perpetrators are so distant. I’d rather worry about the mythical patriarchy. At least then, my perpetrators are all around me and it’s easy to focus my anger. Feminism for the win!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:44 PM
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Do you think women see men as people? Men are all rapists until proven otherwise duh. Their only understanding of men is what feminism tells them. They don’t form relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:41 PM
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But that’s a lot of effort for parents when you can just do the bare minimum. Make sure your child is fed, clothed, and occasionally sedated with new video games. After all, boys are easier than girls right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:37 PM

Young men are no more radicalized than women are by misandrist feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:33 PM
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Do you believe most women are good? Do you believe women are as misandrist as men are misogynist? Are both sexes equally sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:32 PM
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I’ve seen it. Don’t argue with me. # Believe all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:31 PM
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As long as women never have to face rejection I don’t why I should. I’d rather be single in pursuit of equality and fairness than sell out for some pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:23 PM
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There’s nothing to back your opinion that men feel entitled. You’re not in their minds. My explanation for their frustration makes a lot more sense. You’re just just so misandrist that you can’t possibly think men have any behaviors not rooted in entitlement or misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:22 PM
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I don’t have a point because I’m not a woman so I don’t have the power to set the morals in our culture. It’s women who make the rules not men. I just want the rules to be consistent. Do you believe it’s misogynistic for a man to fuck a new woman weekly yet expect a woman he weds to be a virgin or close to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:16 PM
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They’re called worse. I’d rather be called a slut than a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:13 PM
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And why is it obligated for men to not be passive while women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:12 PM
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I respect that. You didn't call me a misogynist for whatever contrived reason at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:04 AM
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I believe the vast majority of women expect performative masculinity from a glorified daddy. Passivity is repulsive to them because they are passive themselves. A partnership between two passive people is hard to prevail with everything life throws at them. Why do you think men are responsible for the majority of the effort and handling of courtship? Women want to filter out passivity in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:48 AM
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Most women don't see men as people. Otherwise, the misandrist cult of feminism wouldn't be infested in every corner of western society in crippling men to a lower status than women while continuing to justify to themselves that it's because they're all lazy vermin. (Men are far worse in education? They're just lazy lol.) Or those who basically look for a daddy in a relationship. Lead, make her feel safe and protected, provide for her. She wants to be the oldest child in the house. This mindset p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:23 AM

For you it is. Just wait until the peasants eat you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:20 AM

The truth shall set you free. It's easy to live in lalala land in a crystal palace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:15 AM

Do you lose empathy for misandrist women who justify their misandry because it's towards their supposed oppressors?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:13 AM
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Worse outcomes sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:11 AM
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You're misunderstanding. The suboptimal approach is the only available approach you have. Men can't use dating apps. They can't approach at work because you don't shit where you eat. etc. All the methods are open to you as a woman but it's different for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:10 AM
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I don't care but in the weekly n count thread they all call you a misogynistic pig if you want a low n count woman but still have a lot of experience yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:08 AM
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If men are misogynistic hypocrites for having opposite standards, than woman are misandrist hypocrites too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:04 AM
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She decided it for me. I was just following her train of thought. I used their logic to show that the comparison is equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:02 AM
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Who are you to decide what is and isn't a long enough but short enough period of time to ask someone out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:57 AM
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The tired old men don't see women as people argument. It's never based on anything substantial just vibes. It's always been projection because women don't see men as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:57 AM
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Your argument is basically men are socially defunct and feel entitled to women. I'd argue the reality is men are creep profiled due to misandry and that's why they feel they're in a no win situation. It's well known one of the largest influences in considered creepy is being a male. What substantiates your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:55 AM
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All imma say it's easy for women to talk a big game about men should get used to rejection when women avoid rejection like the plague and have the privilege to not have to deal with it mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:51 AM
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Bro said male hyper agency I'm glad to see a woke mfer in this cesspool. Do you look at r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:28 AM
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Because the cult of feminism is corrupting young women into their misandrist ideology? The threats to me and my brothers deserve power over me until they're handled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:27 AM
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Top 5%? Bro just the simple recognition that women aren't taught boundaries or consent at anywhere near the degree that men are easily puts her in the top 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:26 AM
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Women aren't a monolith. Some women are bad people and will mistreat you even if you respectfully approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:22 AM
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I agree with you but... If you approach a girl respectfully and with a non threatening energy, she will not find you creepy. Would you say to this woman that women aren't a monolith? That all women are different individuals. Probably not because what she said makes women out to be all morally intact and just. Men should treat women as individuals but I understand the conflict men have when women engage in so much more groupthink than men. To be an individual, don't be a girl's girl. You don't ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:20 AM
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Bro I'm sorry to do it to ya but my misandry is showing and I gotta do it to you. Reported for blackpill talk lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:02 AM
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Not everyone is a woman and has the privilege of endless options like you so a suboptimal approach can be the only option they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:56 PM
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Yeah no it's still hypocrisy. You pointed out a distinction without a difference. Your example is irrelevant because in the end it's fair. You've traded your cooking labor for his cleaning labor. You're not trading anything in return for a preference in non-passive men that do all the courtship for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:51 PM
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So what about the comparison isn't equal? High n count women are masculine. Passive men are feminine. Men aren't attracted to masculinity and women aren't attracted to femininity. Therefore, men aren't hypocrites or misogynists if they want a low n count woman while being high n count themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:49 PM
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Just because I'm physically attracted to someone doesn't mean I'm only looking for sex. You don't know my intentions and it's misandrist (the idea that men are vile dogs who only want sex) to think I approached just for sex. We've cleared the physical attraction requirement and now we can get to know her personality and morals to determine if it's a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:45 PM
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Who are you to decide what is masculine and feminine? I've now decided that high n account is masculine therefore like you said, it's not hypocritical for me to not be attracted to high n count women despite being high n count myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:42 PM
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I'm not allowed to set the rules. Women set the rules on morality in our society since women control the cultural zeitgeist because women are much more integrated into social networks and relationships than men are. This isn't ideal but the least women can do is not make the rules hypocritical. Basically, you tell me. Are men and women different? My morality on gender studies is strictly based on fairness. Men and women should be as equal and fair to each other as possible. That means if you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:40 PM

I don't see why you're trying to invalidate my experiences? Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I don't have feelings. # Believe all men. I'll give you one example. Many women like to call men gay if the men don't show interest in them. They believe they are so highly attractive and irresistible, a man must be gay to not be attracted. The ego of these women leads them straight to homophobia and misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:13 PM
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This generalization that men are lazy sex users is a discrimination of men. I don't engage with misandrists. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:07 PM
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You insinuated that people who approach others aren't seeking to form an emotional connection. Do you think men who approach are only looking for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:05 PM
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Men are beat down with constant rejections yet they still do it in 99% of situations. Cry me a river if you think any man cares that women are supposedly called sluts if they approach. If you want something in life you have to go get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:51 PM
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I feel the same way about women. Most women show zero effort at all so why would I put myself out there and put in the effort for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:50 PM
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So men are all vile dogs and don't want to form emotional connections with people since they approached most of the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:49 PM
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What sex approaches the other in 95% of situations? Who usually carries the burden of facilitating the courtship stage?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:48 PM
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Women are passive yet not attracted to passive men. This makes them hypocrites. If you think it doesn't because women and men are different, then it's completely reasonable for men to be attracted to low n count women yet still be high n count themselves without being hypocrites or misogynists. After all, women and men are different right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:47 PM
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I said earlier that it's much more difficult for men to push back on harmful gender stereotypes than it is for women. Men not only have to fight the problem, but they have to do in a position where they are the oppressor lecturing the oppressed. There's lot more tiptoeing you have to do for your message to get across with the feminist zeitgeist. You're treating a symptom not a cause. We have to look at why men are taught to be providers. That's what will bring them the most success in their rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:11 PM
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Now in the present we're still messed up but as long as the oppressed are who you believe are the oppressors, then it's all okay right? "No act on my enemy can't be justified" Take the empathy gap for example. How do you get women to treat men like people, with the same gentleness that they treat each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:02 PM

I agree with her message but idk how the description. Yes I know I'm allowed to feel and to grow but am I really? Maybe only in a way that the feminist zeitgeist determines acceptable. There's no one telling women to be better. No one is calling out women for misandry. You're oppressed right? Therefore, no acts done on your "enemy" is wrong. If women want emotional depth from men, they need to create an environment where it safe for them to do so. That means letting go of their expectations of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:56 PM

Ice caps are like $3 give me a break my future wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:41 PM

Women get so weird when men set boundaries or have standards. It's like they think, "Who does this lowly man think he is? Does he not know his place? I'm the prize here thanks to my magical vagina. Why does he not see this? He must be gay!" Before you "Not All Women!" me, just remember that it's implied I'm referring to some women and not all. If you think that's ambiguous, take it up with your people not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:33 PM
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Would you say ever say that to a woman? "These loser nice women are demanding too much wanting to be loved for who they are instead of becoming high value females." Men are allowed to set boundaries and have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:30 PM
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All feminist branches share one universal truth which is that we live in a patriarchy where men are oppressors and women are oppressed. This is the one and only prerequisite to being a feminist. If you don't believe we live in a patriarchy, you are not a feminist. Every educated feminist would agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:25 PM
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Many societies value the life of women so much more than men. Men are sent to wars to die while women are shackled, have their rights taken away, all to protect them. Men are 99% of war fatalities. Men make up the vast majority of dangerous jobs. Far more men than women die without reproducing. Even in little interactions, we treat women with a gentleness that we do not give to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:19 PM
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Lust isn't inherently objectification. You can be attracted with someone you think is hot and want to fuck them but still see them as a human being. Who cares if he does? Are you slut shaming yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:56 AM
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So what's the man there for if you can get yourself off? The studies I've seen say that the most satisfying sex women can get comes in long term relationships. That makes sense to me because you can be comfortable with each other and explore what works with repeated experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:54 AM
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Why would I care about getting you off? You're much lower status remember? My orgasm is far more important to me than a stranger's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:42 AM
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What's so enjoyable about being objectified like nothing more than a hole when the majority of women don't cum from PIV alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:41 AM
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From my POV if I'm a high status man and I'm sleeping with a woman much below me for casual sex, I wouldn't care about her one bit besides getting my nut. That's how I and most men would look at it just saying. You're just a notch on the bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:24 AM
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The more socially impressive a man is than you, the less he'll treat you like an equal to him because you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:16 AM
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What percentage of women do you think like girly men compared to otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:27 AM
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When young women are irresponsible, it's rarebait they're just seeking clicks and likes and saying a lot of stupid shit. When young men are irresponsible, they're failing to live up to basic standards and they're hypocritical man children. I wish I could pretend the hypocrisy is surprising but it's really not because you're disillusioned by the idea that women are so beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:58 AM
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Men are far more afraid of being judged negatively by women than other men. Who is the arbiter of our morals in society? Who determines our culture? Who holds the majority of social power? Who can wield a crowd to ostracize the people they don't like more effectively? Who can use social manipulation more effectively? Who's word is more trusted in public opinion? Don't try to deny it. Women are the first to brag how much better they are at being single than man because they cultivate such vast an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:53 AM
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It can be blamed on everyone. All humans have the biological instinct to value the life of women greater than that of men, even to the point of shackling them. How do you fix this biological instinct? You can't because it's an unconscious process. It's impossible for any current human to constantly examine the millions of ways they subtly treat women with more care and empathy than men. My solution is extreme and misandrist but that's because I truly see no other way: The male:female population …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:39 AM
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Men also want want women who are not hypocrites. The effort in initiation and courtship is extremely slanted in the debt of men. Egalitarianism applies in all facets even when it harms you at the benefit of others. Men want women to contribute equally and I don't think it's too much to ask. Also, I'll disagree with you that women no longer need men to fulfill any roles for them. The vast majority of women have strong expectations of performative masculinity to the point that it's almost like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:31 AM
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Men are seen as the oppressors. Men speaking up about what it's not okay for women to do is seen as controlling and oppressive. Women speaking up about what it's not okay for men to do is seen as righteous justice against your oppressors. The path for men to free ourselves from the shackles of gender roles is much harder than for women. For women, you have more leverage over your opponents who also have no solidarity between each other. For men, your opponents are the arbiters of morality in our…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:26 AM
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