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Because there are no lonely women. Loneliness is a male phenomenom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:41 AM
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Of course you fail to mention that your idea of "mental stability" is being able to lie to yourself about your own reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:23 PM
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No, he was in psychosis because he started going bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:31 AM
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You ever see a girl so pretty it makes you crash out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:21 AM
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Short women who want tall men are definitely autopedophilic so it's not surprising that it gets shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:02 AM
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Women will deny liking it but the Justin Bieber style mustache is what every good looking player type I knew when I was younger had. If I were to theorize why it works it would be that it adds a touch of masculinity to a pretty face that would otherwise look too prepubescent-boyish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:38 PM
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No, but then I wouldn't claim to have realistic standards if I can't find someone who meets them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:58 PM
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If a woman is going years without finding a match I'm sorry that's just unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:47 PM
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Now you're contradicting yourself. Either: Women find men they have relationships equally attractive as those they have casual sex with, in which case all men who are able to date should expect to be able to get casual sex as well. or Women find men they have relationships with less attractive as those they have casual sex with, in which case not all men who are able to date should expect to be able to have casual sex as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:44 PM
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Ok then you must believe that men should consider a woman unattracted to him if she refuses to have casual sex with him. Glad we can agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:37 PM
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How are they unable to find someone if they have realistic standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:35 PM
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No it's called having eyes and ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:34 PM
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The ones who are cognizant of the injury they have suffered are yeah. Of course plenty live in denial about it. Just like I'm sure you could find some limbless Gazan child who is not so distraught about the dire predicament they're in out of ignorance. That doesn't change how dogshit their reality is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:34 PM
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That doesn't mean the man she marries isn't equally or more attractive. Except it does, per your own admission that when women "want a casual fuck she's gonna find the hottest person for the job."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:30 PM
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There are no women who don't find someone to match her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:28 PM
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Actually I know what women experience because I have eyes and ears. Women do not experience dating woes even 1% as bad as men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:28 PM
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Ok. And I put "bad" somewhere between the experience of one half of the the population and the other half whose experience is 1% as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:27 PM
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This is delusional. Women experience rejection about 1% as much as men do. Women do not have any serious problems in dating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:23 PM
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Glad we can put to bed the idea that women have any struggles in dating then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:22 PM
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If you admit women do this then you should be capable of understanding why "husband material" is an insult while hookup material isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:20 PM
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The idea that empathetic, emotionally mature etc men are the ones women prize and not just simply men who are attractive, is laughable. You have not spent one second in the real world if you think empathy or emotionally maturity is anything women care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:19 PM
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Your experience on them was a hundred times better than that of the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:13 PM
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People who refuse to believe this phenomenon exists have just never been around men women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:11 PM
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It's unwatchable garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:10 PM
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The ONLY reason Connor Murphy started going crazy and the ONLY reason he is dead today is because he started balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:09 PM
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A HOTTIE HERSELF just fat Ragebait too obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:01 PM
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slightly below average even. OKCupid how women rate men, perennially vindicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:57 PM
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What the hell are you smoking. Dating apps are not bad for women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:52 PM
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I didn't miss what you think the hypocrisy was, but pretending I did is a nice way of avoiding making a counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:05 PM
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Desiring traits you don't posess yourself is not hypocrisy. I want to date someone with a vagina despite not having a vagina myself. That is not hypocrisy. It's only hypocrisy if I made a moral judgement of someone for not having a vagina even though I don't have one myself. And why should any woman pick a man she isn’t attracted to, when you all won’t do the same either? Women shouldn't pick men they aren't attracted to regardless of whether I do. Whether I do has no bearing on whether women sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:59 PM
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Did you block someone mid conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:53 PM
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Many people think I hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:06 PM
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Ask if they want to hook up. If they say no then they weren't attracted to you anyway so you lose nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:06 PM
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Or the bathroom at work. I've had to do this countless times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:03 PM
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Read rule 4. It doesn't say you're not allowed to block at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:02 PM
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Were you making ad hominems?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:33 PM
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You're allowed to block if it's not in the middle of an argument or if they're just making ad hominems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:09 PM
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No they don't. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:05 PM
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ADHD is a fake concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:01 PM
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It's not ironic at all actually because they have different meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:59 PM
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No. But it is something men want a lot, and it's one of the hardest things to accomplish if you are not already found attractive by women, because it is mostly affected by traits men can't control, so that's why men focus on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:37 PM
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I read what you said, and concluded that it was wrong. Women do not care about intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:34 PM
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In that case do you think those workers should be disallowed from practicing sex work if they discriminate based on immutable characteristics in who they provide it to? Because socialist women certainly believe that about doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:30 PM
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By that logic going without sex long enough can be life threatening because it can cause some men to kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:21 PM
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LOL same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:18 PM
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Plenty of morons are attractive to women because women do not care about intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:14 PM
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He could be a self made trillionaire but if he actually thinks the way you describe then he is a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:10 PM
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Sorry but he sounds like a moron. That's not a path most attractive men choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:00 PM
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So, yes, you think healthcare is only about life threatening illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:59 AM
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You think healthcare is only about life threatening illnesses?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:07 AM
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Woman tier argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:40 AM
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But healthcare is a basic human right. Says who? Your access to a woman’s body isn’t Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:58 AM
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Nowhere in there do you refer to the fact that sex/healthcare are not physical things so I consider your post debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:57 AM
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Taylor Swift is a 7 at best. Personally I'd give her a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:22 AM
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Why not the death penalty?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:19 AM
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"If you really want healthcare and you can't find anyone who wants to give it to you and you can't afford to pay for it, well that is now a you problem." I take it you're not a socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:14 AM
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Massive nothingburger post. Your distinction between wealth and sex is immaterial but we don't even need to analogize to money. Socialist women certainly believe heathcare should be distributed among people equally, and healthcare is largely an act. Perhaps they don't believe doctors should be forced to practice healthcare, but they certainly believe they shouldn't be allowed to practice it if they're going to be discriminatory in who they practice it on based on race or gender or wealth, or on …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:01 AM
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Would you agree that it's more like if they aren't *able* to have a high body count? Some high value men choose to not sleep around (usually for religious reasons), albeit rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:19 PM
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Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:24 PM
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Based on women's actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:20 PM
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Yes because women aren't actually attracted to them. That's my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:21 PM
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So what. They're still paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:18 PM
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What women say about their lives is the alternate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:51 PM
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Getting laid doesn't count if they're paying for it. And 99% of them are according to your own logic. I wasn't referencing any "study".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:00 PM
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Why would they compare themselves to men women don't actually find attractive? They want to be among the men women do actually find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:20 PM
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Post her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:01 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:57 AM
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Don't you hate it when a new e-girl's nudes hit the scene and she raises the bar for most perfect breasts you have ever seen and now you can't jerk off to all the other tits because they just don't compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:13 AM
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You're just confirming 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:11 AM
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It's true, I suspect I am one of the most pleasant people on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:10 AM
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I don't believe you. Not hard to find either way. Here you go: https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/s/QflzvbuwpR
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:36 PM
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Clearly lots of women do not have more important shit to worry about, given their incessant whining about Leonardo DiCaprio.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:18 PM
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He doesn't need to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:58 PM
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That's called being asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:58 PM
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Under certain circumstances yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:30 PM
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No it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:08 PM
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Not to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:46 PM
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That they had kids doesn't prove they were attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:41 PM
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The women who are fine being single are either asexual and thus not worth dating (something I wish most men understood) or are having regular hook ups all with the same small percentage of men. So ultimately the problem for men who struggle is still just that women don't find them attractive, because attractive men still get sex with those "single" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:47 PM
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They're not a real couple because they're not actually attracted to each other. They're no more of a real couple than a John and a prostitute. In fact they're even less of one, because at least a John is attracted to the prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:43 PM
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I wasn't meaning to imply they were, but now that you mention it I think they are to some degree. Some of the traits I find the hottest also make a woman less cute to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:42 PM
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They are not mutually exclusive. It can be simultaneously true that being yourself doesn't work nor would changing yourself in the ways that are possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:54 AM
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ALL women are like this btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:17 AM
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Johnny Depp, who eviscerated, humiliated, annihilated by his much younger partner, Amber Heard. His biggest mistake was believing someone as young as Amber Heard would be into him. Lool. I guess you never saw the Amber Heard Fappening leaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:04 PM
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Factual response*
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:35 PM
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If my reaction wouldn't be a normal one then that just means a lot of people are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:27 PM
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You're under reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:11 PM
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Liking her to the point of wanting to go her wedding yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:57 PM
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I don't care about love and I only care about sex with women who are attracted to me. A woman attracted to the plastic in my face is not a woman who is attracted to me, thus sex with her has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:40 PM
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No, and I'd question the choices I made that led me to date such a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:38 PM
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What you are describing as "working through it" is just lying to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:36 PM
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Women are attracted to genetic traits, nothing else. Of course, you can fraud genetic traits, but that doesn't make women more attracted to you, it makes them attracted to the plastic in your face or whatever fraud it was you committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:36 PM
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No, there is nothing you can do to improve how attractive women find you at any level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:30 PM
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Except you can't make yourself into the kind of person women find attractive, that is something determined by your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:27 PM
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Except it is lying to yourself to pretend you're not angry at someone you are angry at.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:20 PM
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If you're capable of lying to yourself sure. Not if you're not though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:17 PM
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I diverge from other men on this. Ghosting is fine. I don't know why anyone wants to have an awkward conversation about not wanting to see the other anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:01 PM
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Er, if they actually accepted that as inevitable you would see terrorist attacks skyrocket. The hope that it isn't inevitable and that they could be throwing away their chance at happiness is what pacifies them. Society understands this, and that's why it's so invested in gaslighting men about their chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:56 PM
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Right so the woe-is-me is a non-factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:26 PM
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The subject of one's anger is not something they can choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:24 PM
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Freaky Nikki > Real Nikki
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:23 PM
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Something I think is weird is the way people use "cute" and "hot". It seems most people conceive of "cute" as just meaning attractive but less so than "hot", but to me these are different kinds of feelings. "Hot" to me is purely about sexual arousal. A woman being hot doesn't cause me any romantic feelings. Anything I'd want to do with her would only be in service of access to sex with her. I'd date her, but only because that means I get to fuck her. I'd cuddle with her because that means I get …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:22 PM
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Delusional. Woe-is-me men have no trouble getting attention from women if they're attractive. Because being attractive is what women are actually attracted to (duh).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:12 PM
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None of those things are affected by a man's attractiveness to any degree worth complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:05 PM
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A non-sexual sense of self worth does not fulfill the need for a sexual sense of self worth, and only women can give men the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:27 PM
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Getting laid is half the end-all-be-all, the other half being sexual validation from attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:24 PM
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Or just don't date whores who go on "nights out" to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:38 PM
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Correct. I only want sympathy in the form of women crawling into bed with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 02:11 PM
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You have to make her laugh, create an emotional connection, make her feel comfortable, be confident, charismatic, interesting If she's not actually attracted to you, sure. If she's actually attracted to you you won't need to do any of that. You can just make a Tinder profile and women will offer to hook up if they actually find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:31 AM
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No, men only struggle in dating because they're unattractive, what they care about or don't is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:29 AM
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I appreciate you proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:24 AM
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I watched it and thought I'd love a gf like that but then I watched some of the actress's livestreams and she is incredibly annoying. She has severe ADHD or something. Kind of retroactively ruined the movie for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:20 AM
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A comment about half the population is not a comment about you personally. Why do women struggle so hard with comprehending depersonalized discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:17 AM
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It's incredible how gay you make a heterosexual relationship sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:04 AM
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Who cares who she's choosing to be with. What matters is who her pussy wants more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 02:43 AM
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They were probably getting inundated by men wanting to date them. Can't have that. Gotta preserve the victimhood narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:26 PM
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Hoeflation is out of control
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:11 PM
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Because ability to socialize has no bearing on ability to get a partner or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:50 AM
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You can't read or don't know what the definition of pedophile is then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:48 AM
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Good that I didn't say that then, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:32 AM
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It is evidence of gynocracy that somehow it is always the man/penis that is to blame. He can't orgasm? He's pornsick. She can't orgasm? He sucks in bed. He can't get hard? He has "erectile dysfunction". She can't get wet? He didn't turn her on. She couldn't feel anything? His penis was too small. She was too tight? He didn't arouse her enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:30 AM
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I dare you to make an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:11 AM
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It is putting blame for something women can't control. Women shame men for being attracted to teenage girls so it's not like women have a problem with shaming people for attractions they can't control.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:56 AM
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Men being able to get dates is not proof that they're attractive to women. Men being able to get casual sex for free is proof that they're attractive to women. There is a far smaller portion of men who can get casual sex than women who can. Thus, men who can get casual sex necessarily must be having it with women who are less attractive than them some of the time, thus hypergamy confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:52 AM
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I can make your wish come true if you swap Chad for fat ugly balding man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:32 AM
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Volunteer moderators are the lowest form of life. They are lower than pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:31 PM
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If you want access to women stop being a creep and work on your personality and hygiene and actually see women as people Next you'll tell raped women they should stop dressing slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:04 PM
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I love this question. My interest in women is quite broad but this how I'd sort it into discrete categories: Small, short (under 5 foot), slim, neotenous face, ideally with a snatched waist and a sizable bust so as not to look too childish. This type is not necessarily the kind I am most sexually aroused by, but they are the kind I'd like most as a girlfriend. In fact they're the only kind I could actually imagine wanting to date for reasons other than access to sex with them. I feel aching in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:40 PM
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They turned him into a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:00 PM
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That man is a sick freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:39 PM
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Men who women actually find attractive should I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:57 AM
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Yeah men are disgusted by other male bodies, not female bodies. Not a particularly astute observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:51 AM
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If women actually find a man attractive he won't have to go out to find a hookup, he can find it on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:48 AM
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Wrong. It's never a bad personalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:32 AM
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Depends who to. I don't think they should lie to women they actually want a relationship with. It's hard to imagine an inexperienced man could have a fulfilling relationship with a woman who'd take issue with his inexperience. In fact it's better that he filter those women out. However if they're just trying to get laid then there's nothing wrong with lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:43 AM
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Nope, I was just making you aware of how you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:38 AM
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Yeah cause inexperienced men are typically young. So it's not hypergamy for them to only want young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:36 AM
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In a perfect world, whoever initiated the date would pick up the tab One of the dumbest things I've ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:26 AM
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They don't believe they "deserve" any women. But yes all of those women could go on any dating app and recieve a tsunami of attention from similarly aged/sized men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:52 AM
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It doesn't. It requires mutual attraction. If you pay attention to people flirting it is usually extremely cringe, but it's not cringe to them because they're attracted to each other. Mutual attraction is all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:35 AM
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Except it's only male hypergamy if those men complaining are also old and fat. If they're also 18-25 and not fat then they're in a similarly small percentage, thus not hypergamous to want the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:33 AM
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Social skills have very little to do with attracting women, so their complaints are entirely valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:29 AM
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They aren't Stacies, they're like 6-7/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:24 AM
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Imagine telling little girls in Afghanistan they must accept the fact they're going to be child brides and learn to be happy with it. That's how you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:23 AM
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There are zero men holding out for Stacies. Absurd female projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:14 AM
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Highly doubt a significant percentage of virgins have sucked dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:58 AM
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So what you're saying is that you should go for virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:58 AM
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Yes. There is a stupid amount of emphasis placed on whether a man has had sex at least once or not, and it enables bloopers to downplay the lack of sex men are having. If a man goes longer than a few years without being able to have sex then I would say he can claim the incel label.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:55 AM
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This isn't gonna end well for him. He's gonna end up like Michael Jackson.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:35 AM
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I will be able to rank those men So you understand that attraction is a continuous variable, thus not who I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:27 AM
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They're agematched.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:34 AM
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You have to be a real sex addict to want to fuck Michelle Obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:27 AM
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I don't know if you are faceblind or something but they are not even remotely similar in attractiveness. Not to say Melania is crazy good looking or anything, but she's decent, meanwhile Michelle is a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:28 AM
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I suggest you look up young pics of her, she's always been busted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:27 AM
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Whether you think Michelle Obama is a man or not, I think we can all agree that she is one of the ugliest women(?) to ever enter public life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:54 PM
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The threshold theory of attraction that people on this sub hold is one of the dumbest ideas peddled here. Attraction is a highly continuous variable. If you showed me 100 women I could easily sort them into at least 10 buckets of attractiveness ordered from least to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:53 PM
10

The ones that are having less are not particularly interested in sex and would've only done it in the past because they would've been economically and socially pressured to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:13 PM
20

Actually if a man is attractive then he can find sex on Tinder without issue. The reason most men can't do this is because women don't find them attractive, and there are no longer the economic and social pressures on women to date them anyway. So the reason they aren't having sex is because women don't want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:05 PM
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I think you are asexual if you don't think some vaginas are attractive and others not. Or maybe if you find all vaginas attractive you are ultrasexual or something, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:54 PM
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You think vaginas don't vary in how attractive they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:53 PM
0

Yeah those Gazan children just don't want a full set of limbs enough, that's their issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:46 AM
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There are vaginas too ugly to even have sex with. There are vaginas not too ugly to fuck but too ugly to kiss. There are vaginas good enough for both. There are vaginas that make my mouth water.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:42 AM
1

She's old now but Little Caprice from like 2010.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:11 AM
2

I'd collapse my lungs sniffing that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:59 AM
1

I just saw what Hayley Williams looks like now and it's super depressing. She was giga cute in the late 2000s but now she looks borderline MTF transsexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:56 AM
3

Was waiting for the chick on the left to shart some commentary out of her mouth but no it's just this meme on steroids <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:16 AM
8

These answers are why you don't ask women dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:08 AM
2

It's "fair" for them to be attracted to whoever they want regardless of who I'm attracted to. I complain about women only being attracted to good looking men because it negatively impacts my life, not because I believe women have a moral responsibility to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:22 AM
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Only ever gotten interest IRL from unattractive girls. Like mega unattractive. One of them I couldn't even tell whether they were male or female when I first met them. Pretty much all attractive women make it painfully obvious how uninterested in me they are. Things like waitresses/baristas wiping their smile off their face the moment we make eye contact, female coworkers pretending not to hear me when I've talked to them, I regularly get conversation ending responses whenever I talk to attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:36 AM
-1

That's even more outrageous. That people are defending him is completely absurd. It's like they actually want a third Trump term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:25 PM
-1

He should've gotten the death penalty. 35 years is getting off lightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:09 PM
1

Sure but she deserves more effort so that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:00 PM
6

And by "ugly" she just means an average looking man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:42 PM
1

Do not flirt with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:18 AM
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All humans are equal Vaginas don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:35 AM
2

I find it hard to imagine that if a guy had fucked a really tight girl before and then fucked a really loose girl that he wouldn't notice the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:44 PM
11

Congrats, you just answered the question you asked in your title.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:25 PM
17

Liberated, lustful women doesn't actually mean sex is distributed to more men. It just means they have sex outside of monogamy more, which means a narrower portion men get more sex while the rest get less. If you're in that portion of men that's great for you, but for most men, or at least the bottom half in attractiveness, socially enforced monogamy increases the amount of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:23 PM
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If they wanted empathy then maybe they shouldn't have done Jewish 9/11.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:16 PM
5

Actually I'd have no problem going down on a virgin woman. In fact I would do it for my own pleasure more than hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:06 PM
37

Women tell men that every time they insist not being nice is the reason they can't get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:05 PM
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People with weak internal conviction of their beliefs (usually women) need the affirmations of others in order to feel their beliefs are true. So, a post like this is designed to garner exactly those kind of responses, because they confirm to the poster that what they posit is true, which is a belief that comforts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:43 AM
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He's not likely concerned with paternity, paternal uncertainty was merely the evolutionary pressure that lead to males evolving their aversion to female promiscuity. As to why he'd fuck a promiscuous woman: desperation. Same reason men fuck fat chicks. They try to push away the disgust they feel for her body because it's either that or no sex. I can see why many men make that choice considering how dire the latter option is but that doesn't mean the former is without shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:35 AM
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They're in situationships with men out of their league and know they're unlikely to be entertained by another man of similar value for that long, so they're clinging to what they see as their one chance with such a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:28 AM
8

In the female mind sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:25 AM
4

To a female mind sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:23 AM
0

It's normal for men to be disgusted by other men's penises actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:21 AM
2

Duh, women didn't evolve the aversion to male promiscuity men did for female promiscuity because females always had parental certainty but males didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:19 AM
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It's not an "issue" but yeah men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:13 AM
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Gazans probably should've thought about that before they did Jewish 9/11.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:10 AM
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No. Something being true of women doesn't mean it's true for men. Why can't bluepillers grasp men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:07 AM
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Which goes to show men don't really have mental problems, they just have actual problems that negatively affect their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:05 AM
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This could be said of asking for advice of someone successful in virtually any field.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:04 AM
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She's pure goonbait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:03 AM
2

I don't know how dudes with high N women can stomach going down on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:32 PM
1

If only that was broadly the positioned held by leftists in 2017. Progressives don't deserve a Platner win simply as karma for the way they treated any man who questioned the idea that you shouldn't just automatically assume a man is guilty solely because a woman accused him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:15 PM
1

Love seeing jUsT bELiEvE wOmEn come back to bite progressives in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:49 PM
1

Not other than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:14 AM
2

He can't be. Neither can he be of an American woman who makes him take her on dates before she'll have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:02 AM
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Ok, but it is in her interest for it to be part of the decision making process, if she does value not eliciting men's sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:40 PM
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That depends on how much a woman values dressing in a way that elicits men's sexual interest vs how much she values not eliciting men's sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:24 AM
3

She looked good when he married her let's not give him too much credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:08 PM
-1

If there are any, they're asexual. If you feel sexual attraction then looks matter to you a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:07 PM
2

Men and women are similarly picky about who they decide to get into long-term relationships with. No they aren't. At all. Men are pickier for relationships than hookups obviously, but not pickier than women are for either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:59 PM
1

Whether women "should" is beside the point that it's in their interest to. Similarly, whether men "should" fix their behavior is beside the point that it apparently isn't in their interest to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:58 AM
2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:29 AM
3

Every kitchen appliance a man knows how to operate puts him one point further up the Kinsey scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:53 PM
9

So you gave a woman approved answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:48 PM
2

If it was then my point still stands, because there's no good reason to be any more offended by that than any other physical preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:24 PM
2

Not precisely. It was like 6 paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:47 PM
2

"Society" viewing women as a prize to be won is simply reflective of men's desire for women and their need to compete in order to attract them. You'd have to frame men's attraction to women as "objectification" in order for it to qualify as having had a role in the rise of the manosphere, and I don't agree with that framing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:56 PM
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My most downvoted comment on this sub was one where I described the types I find most attractive (an answer to a question someone asked). People are offended by men having preferences in 2026.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:40 PM
4

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:29 PM
1

It's because women are addicted to being victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:30 PM
4

Factual. Or rather a question that presupposes a factual statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:48 PM
4

Why are women incapable of differentiating between a moral claim and a factual claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:55 PM
1

Well I'm glad it is now used sincerely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:06 AM
1

Except you should expect men to comment because you know plenty of them do see skin as sexual and don't care about being rude or inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:03 AM
1

No, the alternative is wearing modest clothing. This costs you virtually nothing, unlike staying permanently inside which comes at great cost, yet lowers the likelihood of you eliciting men's sexual interest. Whether men's actions are immoral or not does not affect whether women's actions are rational according to their own interests. Going outside has benefits that outweigh the risk of getting pickpocketed. If women insist that wearing 17% of an outfit outweighs the likelihood of eliciting men'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:56 AM
1

Not one blood cell would rush to my penis for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:31 AM
0

Too late I guess, she already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:26 AM
1

No, actually, she said "women" and "we", not "I". In her second comment she even admitted women lie about it. So it's straight from the horse's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:16 AM
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It's not based solely on my perspective, it's based on the perspective of men in general. And yes, avoiding what elicits sexual interest from men in general is the best way to reduce the likelihood that you elicit sexual interest in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:10 AM
2

What kind of relationship are you looking for? Assuming your wealth was largely accrued through your job, your job title will likely still attract gold diggers. If I was rich, I would go to great lengths to obfuscate my wealth from a woman I'm dating. I would overtly lie to her about it. Then about 6 months or so in, if she has proven her attraction to me, I would reveal my wealth. I would explain to her exactly why I lied to her. That I wanted to ensure she was actually attracted to me and not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:54 AM
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No, I want her to want to do it with me. Partially because I desire the act itself, but also partially because if she wanted it with other men but not me, that means she's not attracted to me. I'm willing to sacrifice engaging in the act for the right woman, but not for a woman who isn't attracted to me. In fact that would make the relationship a nonstarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:12 AM
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You'd be hard pressed to find a man who genuinely believes that in 2026. Men are disillusioned from the idea that women go for "nice" men before they even hit puberty, thanks to the modern internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:23 AM
1

You mean you don't have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:09 AM
1

How does that answer the question of why is it worthwhile to focus on reducing hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:07 AM
2

Men aren't really confused, they know the answer, they just don't like women being dishonest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:43 AM
1

I have probably not activated an abdominal muscle in over a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:24 AM
1

First time I've seen a woman admit on here that she shows skin specifically to attract attention from men she finds attractive. Most women are not capable of even that marginal degree of honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:19 AM
1

Can you quote the part where I said anyone "owed" anyone anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:14 AM
1

Not particularly. Male sexuality has very low standards, so a man's willingness to have sex with a woman does not indicate that she is particularly special. Women themselves acknowledge this. Men make women feel special via commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:09 AM
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I don't know what relevance his virginity or non-virginity is. The favor returned would be making him feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:06 AM
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Women don't "need" to justify anything, but if they refuse to, others will make their own judgements as to what their justification is for it, and they shouldn't expect otherwise. I am arguing it is in women's interest to alter their behavior because some men won't control theirs, just as it's in anyone's interest to lock their car because some people try to steal cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:04 AM
1

What would you like to debate bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:01 AM
1

Who cares whether they're within their legal right to do so? You're within your legal right to not have your car stolen even if you don't lock it. That doesn't mean you're not a fucking idiot if you don't lock your car.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:00 AM
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Shame you weren't a virgin when you met him so you couldn't return the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:58 AM
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Arguing is my one true addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:58 AM
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Yeah. The idea that it doesn't affect that is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:56 AM
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There is no way to guarantee getting around it, just like a locked door doesn't guarantee a car doesn't get stolen. That doesn't mean it doesn't affect the likelihood of it. Yeah obviously a woman's body has an effect on how effective modest clothing will be. But those women are rare (unfortunately). So that doesn't explain the vast majority of women complaining about it who don't have such a body.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:55 AM
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And it doesn’t stop them from doing it, does it? Correct, because it's worth the risk for them. If they began complaining about being pulled over but continued to put racing stripes on their cars, I'd calling them fucking idiots. No, I’m saying that it ultimately prevents nothing so women might as well dress how they like. Since when does a preventative measure need 100% success rate to have value? Those car manufacturers are completely wasting their time putting locks on all the doors!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:53 AM
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People keep going outside because it's benefits outweigh the risk of a stranger being rude. What are the benefits of posting a bikini pic that outweigh the risk of men making sexual comments on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:49 AM
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It's pretty easy to reconcile: You are incorrectly judging that percentage. You far more frequently wear "modest" clothing than bikinis etc. You are incorrectly judging how modest your "modest" clothing is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:48 AM
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What bearing does that have on the question of why women continue to post bikini pics even though they know men will express their sexual interest in her because of it, which she claims to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:45 AM
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Yeah and men who put racing stripes on their car should expect to be more likely to get pulled over. Are you seriously saying you believe how a woman dresses has zero impact on how likely or often she'll elicit men's sexual interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:42 AM
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How believable that is depends on how tight fitting the tshirt and jeans are, what your body type is, and how often you wear that compared to bikinis/short dresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:40 AM
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Well now you know. So I hope no woman reading this ever posts a bikini pic on Instagram ever again without expecting men to vocalize how they feel about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:37 AM
1

The idea that how a woman dresses has zero impact on how much sexual interest she'll elicit in men is laughable. It's also laughable that given men's response to it, somehow what you're comfortable and happy in often just so happens to also be what elicits men's sexual interest as much as possible without qualifying as indecent exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:35 AM
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But why do they want to, especially considering the likely response of some men. You don't "have" to do anything but what you choose to do will raise questions about why you're doing it. Locking you car door doesn't prevent it from getting stolen, but it does dramatically reduce the likelihood of it. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the same is true for wearing more clothing, because my eye is caught by barely dressed women far more than by modestly dressed women. And I can tell you with …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:31 AM
0

We need to star using the term "gold star" to refer to straight women who haven't slept with any men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:21 AM
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This doesn't answer why women continue to show a lot of skin even though they know many men will take some particular action.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:17 AM
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Men want something from women that only women can give them. Women don't give it to some men. Therefore those men begin to hate women for depriving them of something they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:09 AM
0

Except women know many men will enjoy it quite vocally. Which then raises the question, given they know that's the likely outcome, why do they continue to deliver that information to men's eyeballs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:07 AM
2

Before we ask how, we should ask why. To what end would we create a world where everyone doesn't hate each other? Most people's problems do not stem from being hated. Seems like a misallocation of time and effort to focus on reducing hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:55 AM
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No. If you refuse to acknowledge the societal impact of love and sex (or lack of it), then you clearly want Trump to win a third term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:38 AM
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The desire for it doesn't depend on that, the willingness to sacrifice it depends on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:37 AM
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No, you clearly want him to win a third term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:36 AM
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Non-hot men who get casual sex get it with unattractive women after putting gargantuan amounts of effort into getting it. How men can throw a few pics up on Tinder and recieve hot women offering sex on appearance alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:33 AM
1

So you don't have a problem with women's neediness for their rights, is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:44 PM
1

Lack of it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:43 PM
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I suppose you'll have no problem with me dealing with it by voting for Trump, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:43 PM
0

Many, but among them would be an increase in animosity toward women among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:10 PM
1

No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:08 PM
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No, I'm comparing men's neediness to women's neediness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:07 PM
0

Love and sex have societal consequences whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:27 PM
1

Do you feel the same about women's neediness for their rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:24 PM
6

It's the most prevalent form of bigotry in the world today if you actually pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:51 AM
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This is like saying a woman is only raped at gunpoint if she doesn't pull the trigger herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:49 AM
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No. She can (and should) though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:19 AM
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Undoubtably the men she's attracted to are not even average, but extremely above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:53 AM
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No, that is what you are imagining those men are saying. You have not read a single comment from a man on here saying he deserves his looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:50 AM
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So in other words you have never read a man say that on here either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:01 AM
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Then women should stop insisting it's the predominant reason men can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:44 AM
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That wasn't your only point. You were also perplexed why some men place emphasis on it despite the fact that desire for those acts is uncommon. That is what I'm addressing. We don't need to agree on what evidences women's attraction/lack thereof to solve that riddle. In fact it can't be solved unless you are willing to understand that those men do see it as indicating lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:33 AM
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No, like I said before, it's women who struggle with that concept, and they evidence it every time they insist the predominant reason men can't get laid is misogyny or that they won't just "treat women like a human being".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:30 AM
1

There is nothing more important in a relationship than whether or not she is attracted to me. And a woman having desired acts with other men but not with me is evidence that she isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:29 AM
1

It's more that he has* to be willing to risk doing something she'll consider harassment. *He doesn't have to if he's attractive, cause then women will come to him. But the above is true for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:27 AM
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Nothing would exacerbate male loneliness more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:20 AM
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Except those traits do align with what women CLAIM they find good in regard to personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:18 AM
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No, desiring something conditionally and being willing to sacrifice it conditionally are two different things, and that difference explains precisely the conundrum you posed about why some men place emphasis on it despite the fact that it's not common. It's because those men desire it, they're just willing to sacrifice it for a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:16 AM
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Show me the comments of the supposedly "lots of guys" on here who say they "deserve" their looksmatch. I don't think I have ever read a man say that on here even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:12 AM
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You are misunderstanding. It isn't that they desire it conditionally, it's that they're willing to sacrifice it conditionally. Which makes complete sense. I desire anal sex, but I'd still be content without it if I'm sacrificing it for a good reason, such as her not desiring the act itself. Which I'll believe if she hasn't engaged in it previously. I consider that a good reason because it doesn't say anything about her attraction to me. However, if she had anal sex with other men, that means she…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:08 AM
3

They are simply adopting how women define it for the sake of arguing against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:39 PM
5

It's funny how oblivious women can be. She genuinely has no idea how horrible what she just said was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:28 PM
1

That sub gets suggested to me a lot and I swear kids never used to be that cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:26 PM
1

Reject it. I would feel indebted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:24 PM
1

She's just lean. Those legs probably have more muscle than 99% of women. The most offensive thing about her is her complete lack of boob.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:22 PM
5

Women are the ones who struggle with that, and they evidence it every time they insist the predominant reason men can't get laid is misogyny or that they won't just "treat women like a human being".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:20 PM
3

Have you considered that the men you see placing emphasis on it are the ones who desire it. Why would the majority being vanilla have any bearing on how much emphasis those men place on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:17 PM
1

You've got to put in some effort if she doesn't find you attractive yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:12 PM
2

So the red pill is right about women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:41 PM
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Yeah but then it wouldn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:10 AM
5

Men's sense of self worth just isn't as tied to earning money as it is to attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:45 AM
2

Treating women well doesn't get a man sexual validation from them, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:32 PM
-1

nor has it ever been. Then what the fuck are women complaining about all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:31 PM
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The difference is that pro athletes have no problem actually attracting women. So sex with a prostitute can actually just be sex for them, not a reminder of the fact that they can't attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:29 PM
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I'd be a king with absolute power and I'd instruct my minions to round up the most beautiful girls in the country to become my sexual servants, a position they'd accept gladly. They would desire nothing but to give me sexual pleasure. They would never say no. There would be no limit to what they are willing to do to fulfill their duty. An orgy between them and I would ensue, however despite your request I will spare you the gratuitous detail, but suffice to say, many of them would leave the enco…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:21 AM
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I will spell this out for you because you are a bluepiller and logic is likely not your forte. No, it says nothing about how I feel about my friend, because whether I'd enjoy a pilsner has nothing to do with how I feel about my friend. However, whether I'd enjoy sex with someone has a lot to do with how I feel about them, so whether I enjoy it with them does say something about how I feel about them. I hope you won't need it explained any simpler.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:29 AM
2

It is an objective fact. How would a woman be ideal for me if she'd be offended by what I consider to be the ideal relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:26 AM
2

If she would be perturbed by it then that simply means she isn't the one I'd have an ideal relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:13 PM
-1

Gillian Anderson is a hag. How is that an example of an older woman young men find hot? Salma Hayek, JLo, Marisa Tomei are better examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:17 PM
5

There's an obvious answer to this but it's against the sub's rules to state it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:13 PM
2

Actually, as I pointed out to someone else, OP was looking for this degree of specificity. Secondly, if vulgar descriptions upset you, then I suggest this isn't the sub for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:02 PM
1

In 2026 it's "gross" for a man to dare desire a girlfriend who is attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:48 PM
0

Men don't have a choice whether they are the guy women find attractive or not. That's irrelevant though, because this case is most commonly discussed in the context of a relationship wherein the woman claims to love the guy but refuses him sex acts she did with other men. We all agree the sugar daddy shouldn't expect more than he pays for, so no debate worth having there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:43 PM
1

No also means she's not attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:33 PM
0

All the things you list make men unattractive to old women too. The only exception is old women caring more about money/resources because they're looking to settle down, but that's just them seeing you as a wallet, which is even worse than them not being interested at all. So ultimately, if a man isn't going to find women genuinely attracted to him either way, he may as well be with the hottest pussy he can get. There is really just no reason for a man to not go for younger women if the option i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:32 PM
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It wouldn't have sufficed actually. OP asked for detail, and in fact they mentioned it was what they were looking for below.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:10 PM
0

We all know what should happen to women who do shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:28 PM
3

Your hate is misdirected.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:19 PM
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Sorry but as a woman you have zero authority on bravery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:18 PM
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If he did with previous women, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:38 PM
1

You're right, it's more like if you love me you'll want to try it with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:37 PM
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2+2=4.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:48 PM
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If that's how long she made the other man wait, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:45 PM
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Yeah it does. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:33 PM
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Sorry but as a woman you have zero authority on bravery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:33 PM
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Of course you don't. But if you don't have a good reason then that says something about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:40 PM
1

Except you don't know that you don't like it now with him. You tried it once at another point in your life with a different man. You cannot claim to love the man you're with if you won't acknowledge that fact and at least TRY with him what you were willing to try with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:54 PM
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Your desire to be open with him, especially at least as much as you were with other men, is indicative of how much you love him actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:51 PM
1

Were you not implying that you've tried anal sex before and that's how you know you don't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:45 PM
2

You mean go find a woman who actually loves him. There, we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:44 PM
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You're right she should also be excited to try it with the man she claims to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:43 PM
1

I agree he should find a woman who will actually love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:42 PM
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I don't want her to do something she doesn't want. I want her to want to try it with me. If she claims to love me then she'd want to be at least as open with me as she was with any man in her past. If she doesn't that just means she's not attracted to me. Now I dare you to respond to what I said in my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:42 PM
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Then by the same token the reason she thinks she doesn't like anal may just be the previous guy was bad at it. Therefore that's not a reason to refuse trying it with her current man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:33 PM
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So you claim to love the man you're engaged to yet you've given your asshole to other men but won't to him? How does that make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:30 PM
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She found out during it that she didn't like it with the guy she was at the time and didn't like it at that particular time. That is not proof that she'll never like it with any guy ever, considering the thing was something she was at one point open to. If you claim to love a guy you owe it to him to at least try it with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:28 PM
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You mean you didn't like it when you tried it with that other guy. That doesn't mean you'll never like it. People's desires are not some static thing that never change. If you claim to LOVE the man you're with, you owe it to him to acknowledge this is enough of a possibility to at least TRY it with him. It's not even something you should give to him reluctantly, you should actively want to explore with him, at least as much as you wanted to with other men. Again, if you claim to love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:25 PM
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You mean she realized she didn't like them with the man she tried them with. If you claim to love the man you're currently with, you at least owe it to him to try it with him too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:16 PM
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If she hasn't done those things with other men before sure. If she has though, then it's absolutely her fault that she doesn't want to do them with you. Or rather her sexuality's fault for not finding you attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:13 PM
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This would've been so much more credible if you didn't begin it with "women have said"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:07 PM
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The wall is real because women lose cuteness with age. There are plenty of 30+ women I'd consider hot/sexy. Very few I'd consider cute. It's a different kind of feeling and more related to making me want to date them rather than just fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:11 AM
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Nobody's dating problems are attributable to a lack of bravery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:06 AM
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There shouldn't be any exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:05 AM
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Well you are a man. You have no female plot armor. So anything you say that could give any kind of credance to any idea that might possibly reflect poorly on women is WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:10 AM
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Actually she made a relative claim. That's what "more" means. An apt analogy would be more like "when my ear is really itchy, I scratch it more". Implicit in that statement is that you scratch less when it itches less. You're welcome for the English lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:04 AM
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She did arrive at a conclusion. Allow me to quote it for you: when i feel safe with a man it makes me want to do even more with him
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:54 AM
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And how would she have arrived at the conclusion that she wants to do more with a man if he makes her feel safe if she hadn't experienced at anoher time feeling less safe and thus not wanting to do as much then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:46 AM
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Wow. I'm actually impressed a woman could bring herself to make a sensible comment. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:43 AM
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What do you think "more" is in relation to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:39 AM
2

I'm interested in how bloopers respond to this. They might want to agree but they won't want to risk validating the idea that a woman's sexual behavior in comparison to her past can indicate something about how she feels toward her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:30 AM
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Ok so if she actually did like it with a previous guy but doesn't want it with me you agree that indicates she's not attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:23 AM
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Actually it is a good look to those whose opinions I value. Except she did like them. With a previous guy. Just not with me. That's why her past matters. If she doesn't want them with any man, then it says nothing about her feelings for me that she doesn't want them with me. If she liked them with a previous man but doesn't want them with me, then it does say something about her feelings for me. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:06 AM
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You're right I would expect her to enjoy with me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:04 AM
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Yeah men have different expectations for chaste women than they do for sluts. As they should. I wouldn't expect a virgin woman to indulge all my weird desires, but if I found out she actually wasn't a virgin an indulged them for men in her past, yeah I'm going to expect at least the same treatment. I don't know why anyone thinks men should be wiling to make the same sacrifices for all kinds of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:59 AM
4

I busted reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:44 AM
3

Even better if it's not for religious reasons. In fact if it's for religious reasons that makes it less of a green flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:18 AM
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It's a green flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:17 AM
3

The problem with this is that women's behavior doesn't match it. Attractive men get pussy easier, from more women and from hotter women than average men no matter how much worse their personality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:12 AM
3

What they did to my boy Homelander was despicable. He deserved to set the planet ablaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:07 AM
2

Another "ick" that immediately evaporates for men they're actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:04 AM
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When I first discovered torrenting as a kid, Friends was one of the first shows I binged. Not exactly the highest form of art, and it was mostly the novelty of being able to watch anything for free all of a sudden that carried me through, but I still find bits amusing when clips are suggested to me on YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:02 AM
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What these idiot women never seem to grok is that the men who complain about being lonely are not the assholes these women open their legs to on an endless basis. You would think that after some time women would come to the realization that the reason those men mistreat them is the same reason other men complain about loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:57 AM
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Another bluepill "everything must be equal between men and women" delusion. Just because the red flags of abusive men are easy to spot, doesn't automatically mean the red flags of women are. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:50 PM
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Centering your argument around saying who has it worse between an abuse victim and a lonely man seems like a quick way for people to lose focus of your original argument. Maybe among people I don't care about convincing. To other "lonely" men (I don't think "loneliness" is the real problem, but I digress), only some would be offended by that comparison. Even better, some would not have ever even considered the comparison before, but now do and consider it apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:21 PM
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They are completely different statements. The former suggests there is either a causal relationship between the two, or a confounding factor causing the two. The latter simply acknowledges that the sum likelihood of all mutually exclusive explanations for a phenomenon cannot exceed 100%. Of course, they are not likely to be entirely mutually exclusive in the case we are discussing here. But it's also practically impossible that they are entirely mutually inclusive too. Which means the introducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:06 PM
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Because if she was attracted to me, she would be willing to at least try it with me, given that she was willing to try it with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:03 PM
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I didn't say the more a woman likes my personality the less she likes my dick. I said the more she likes my personality the less likely it is she likes my dick. These are different claims. There is simply no getting around the fact that the more plausible explanations there are for some thing, the less likely a particular explanation is to be the one that's true. Hence why the ultimate validation of my cock is the case where there is no plausible other explanation as to why she acts toward it th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:33 PM
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Funny how women are disgusted by a man daring to want a woman who's sexually attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:06 PM
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Congratulations, you've just learned that men are not all the same height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:09 PM
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From most important to least: My cock. She would be obsessed with my cock above all else. She would have an endless appetite for sucking it, getting fucked by it, having it ejaculate inside her pussy, ass and mouth. She would want to play with it and kiss it for her own pleasure. So long as she values me for this I'd accept not being valued by her for everything else. Sex that doesn't relate to my cock. So, me kissing her, touching her, holding her. My looks, but specifically only in a sexual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:05 PM
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more people have one night stands than get married Google says no. Roughly 80% of people get married but something like 60% of men have ever had a one night stand. And again, one night stands are the least valid form of casual sex. And again, that's even more shocking when you consider all the practical barriers to getting married. If my claim was in any way false, the number of men who get casual sex, even just the kind I consider valid (FWB/Tinder), would be astronomically higher than the numb…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:52 PM
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Depends how you define it. I can understand others. In fact I think I have expert theory of mind. I am not caused the feeling others have by contagion though. I am devoid of that kind of empathy. If anything I have reverse empathy where the misery of others brings me relief and the happiness of others immiserates me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:48 PM
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I don't know why you are using the 2000s as your reference point. That was 20 years ago. We're talking about now. Secondly, you are referring to one night stands, which I specifically invalidated in my comment with good reason. Lastly, I suspect this would be true of the 2000s as well, but certainly today it is easier for men to find women who view them as marriage material than hookup material. There are other kinds of barriers to getting married that casual doesn't present, but they have nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:43 PM
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You seem to have not responded to something I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:31 PM
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Or you just saw what women are like as an adult just like the woman raped as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:28 PM
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I don't agree, but it's irrelevant either way, because the major factor is that people used to be far less online period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:39 PM
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Sorry but you've been living under a rock. Many more men can get comitted relationships than could go on Tinder right now and get casual sex with a woman of the same level of attractiveness. If you disagree with this you are just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:38 PM
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Except the scale and accessibility of it absolutely is new, and the context in which it happens now (where only male expressions are problematized) is also new.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:33 PM
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Is it one rando online getting mad about it or is it a growing resentment for women among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:17 PM
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I would've thought women would be wise enough to not admit this stuff publicly by now. Thank God they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:04 PM
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They won't be splitting the atom any time soon. The greatest accelerant of civilization was women not being in charge of which men reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:02 PM
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Childhood experiences aren't the only ones that affect our psyhology. Do you think women raped as adults aren't affected by it psychologically just because it didn't happen to them when they were a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:41 PM
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Nice work dodging the argument I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:23 PM
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This is woman tier logic. A man being attractive just means fewer women would turn him down for casual sex than would an average man. It doesn't mean no woman in existence would turn him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:17 PM
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Why do women have this deragement that everything is and should be equal between men and women? Wife material are higher value than hookup material. Husband material are lower value than hookup material. More men can get marriage than can get casual sex, all else being equal (ie attractiveness of the partner). Especially if you only count true casual sex (ongoing FWBs, Tinder links) and not drunken hookups. The reverse is true for women. More women can get sex outside of commitment than can get …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:08 PM
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Sorry I forgot men aren't allowed preferences in 2026.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:27 AM
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That would be such a liberal use of the word archetype that it makes your point redundant. You're just saying people have preferences at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:39 AM
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What matters most to me is the shape of her body. What she's wearing only matters insofar as it reveals the shape of her body (or doesn't). I don't give a flying fuck about how she styles herself, makes zero difference to how attractive she is to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:42 AM
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This is a failure of logic very typical of the female mind. The men who complain about not being chosen are not the men treating women horribly. In fact the latter are able to treat women horribly precisely because all women choose that narrow portion of men. There’s nothing worse for a woman than being played by an ugly man who you gave a chance. I’ve seen it and it’s not cute. If she dated him despite thinking he's ugly, then she was taking advantage of him and thus deserved to get played by h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:53 PM
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If she's 100% sure she wouldn't like it with me even though she was open to it with another man and willing to try it with him, that just means she's not attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:52 PM
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Women believing in their so-called "right" to an abortion really goes to show they believe sex is a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:45 PM
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Ok so the vast majority of women (who haven't gotten pregnant from rape) should still choose celibacy if abortion bans are that serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:44 PM
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Something she didn't like with another man, you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:30 PM
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I don't think a woman can claim to be attracted to a man if she isn't willing to try something with him that she was willing to try with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:28 PM
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I don't think she "should" do anything. But if she did it with another man but won't with me, that means she's not attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:13 PM
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She doesn't "need" to do them. But if she doesn't do it with me but did with other men, that means she's not attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:18 PM
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Depends how hot the rest of her is I suppose. I'm not into tits that look like that but if she has a great ass or something else, I wouldn't turn that down because of her tits. It's not like I have better alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:57 PM
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Don't give a fuck about it, at least not in and of itself. If it weren't for the social consequences of dressing certain ways I would comfymaxx and wear nothing but sweatpants and hoodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:22 PM
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An excerpt from Anthony Kiedis' memoir that may interest you: The next day we drove to Baton Rouge, and of course, she came with us. After we got offstage, she came up to me and said, "I have something to tell you. My father's the chief of police and the entire state of Louisiana is looking for me because I've gone missing. Oh, and besides that, I'm only fourteen." I wasn't incredibly scared, because in my somewhat deluded mind, I knew that if she told the chief of police she was in love with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:10 PM
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I like how you dodged addressing the point I made but also the fact that you interpreted my use of prostitute as derogatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:30 PM
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They needn't even be equivalent for both to be undesirable. Her desiring sexual attention from others is undesirable in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:24 PM
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So are you saying that you went out dressed modestly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:22 PM
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If he knew what your actions signal about your mind, I doubt he'd be fond of it. If he would be or is, well I suppose that signals something about his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:17 PM
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Two strawmen here. Not wanting to date someone =/= hating them. Disliking a specific behavior =/= disliking "fun". If you wish to fail to notice what it tells you about a woman that she regularly wants to go dressed like a prostitute into a den of horny men, feel free. But if you want to start noticing, it neither means you hate women nor hate fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:43 PM
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Why do women think how they choose to dress says nothing about who they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:34 PM
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Based on her vastness he mogs by 1-2 points.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:33 PM
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Extraversion correlates with infidelity so it's virtually impossible to believe that women who regularly go clubbing are not more likely to cheat than women who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:25 PM
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Except you are cherry picking the ones who wore eyeliner, the vast majority of famous male musicians don't, and eyeliner isn't the reason the ones you cherry picked were attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:14 PM
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I wish you were right but some men do unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:56 PM
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Some men do have cuckold fetishes so I suppose you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:38 PM
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You broached the subject of undesirability, which is inherently the subject of face.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:33 PM
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Of course, but that's not all that's important. What's also important is whether she regularly wants to go dressed like a prostitute to a venue with a high concentration of horny men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:25 PM
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I wonder if there's a single human in existence who genuinely believes there's no correlation between propensity to go clubbing and infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:19 PM
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If you have to force her to not go clubbing, of course that's a problem, because that means she wants to. But the right girl wouldn't even want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:13 PM
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It may not even be that she's wiling to upgrade (although, of course, sometimes it is), it can simply be that her boyfriend/husband's validation of her as 'sexy' isn't enough, and she needs to get it from others. Usually that's because she doesn't find him attractive and (ironically) doesn't see him as a valid source of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:09 PM
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Except they don't prove me wrong, because eyeliner isn't the reason women are attracted to them (nevermind the fact that most don't even wear eyeliner).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:05 PM
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This is such an absurd level of playing ignorant. If someone put a gun to your head and asked you to draw an outfit a prostitute is likely to wear on the job or they'll shoot you, you know exactly what you'd draw.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:03 PM
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No, men would prefer naturally pretty women, but that option usually isn't available to them, so they're fine with the simulacrum. Importantly, they aren't turned off by learning she's wearing makeup (or has filler, or fake breasts etc). The men who are are rare exceptions. For most men, so long as it looks good, it is good. Women are not the same. For women, it needs to look good and be real (genetic). Women are completely turned off if they learn it isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:01 PM
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If you regularly dress like a prostitute and go to a venue with a high concentration of horny men then what that says about you is that you're asking to be percieved sexually (at the very least).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:57 PM
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A man's undesirability is a matter of his face, not his outfits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:56 PM
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Where did women get the idea that what they wear says nothing about who they are? Sorry but the act of noticing is not illegal (yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:54 PM
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Except the moment women realize he's wearing makeup her attraction will vanish, because women are only attracted to genetic traits. And I don't even need to open that link to know that the way it was "scientifically proven" was by ...asking women what they think. Which is a laughably poor way to determine what women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:51 PM
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Depends on the reason why she's outside. There are plenty of other goals that are perfectly valid for a taken woman to have that are very hard to accomplish without risking being percieved sexually by other men. The key difference there though is that she dresses conservatively, so she at least looks like she isn't asking for it. But if a woman regularly goes dressed like a prostitute to a venue with a high concentration of men, it's hard to believe she's not asking for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:47 PM
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If you made a collage of the outfits you wore all those times you went clubbing I'd be willing to bet that you'd look indistinguishable from a prostitute. Do you think that says nothing about you? Your husband may have failed to notice what your actions signal about your mind, but that doesn't mean other men have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:24 PM
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Is there a reason women virtually always do it half naked. Why is that required in order to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:19 PM
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He deserves so much better than a used up slut but we live under gynocracy so that's not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:16 PM
1

Only one of those does actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:14 PM
2

Do you live under a rock? Women have myriad spaces exclusive to women where they can talk about that stuff without being judged. If your question is, are women able to talk anywhere and everywhere about those things without ever experiencing a man judging them for it? No. Of course not. Nor do they need to in order to qualify as having safe spaces. Men don't have that either. In fact men are judged far harsher for expressing their sexuality than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:03 PM
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Hard to imagine I'd be compatible with the kind of girl who goes to clubs. Aside from that, it's a red flag. A taken woman should actively want to avoid being percieved sexually by anyone other than her man. Going to nightclubs half naked is the antithesis of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:57 PM
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The idea that eyeliner or foundation would increase a man's attractiveness and not the complete opposite is legitimately hilarious. Women only care about genetic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:48 PM
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<image> TFW women attempt math.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:50 PM
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You can tell it was written by some dumb bitch. The monologue the Ugly Betty chick gives is painfully stupid. Ken's song is good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:52 AM
2

Incredible. Women are devoid of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:26 AM
2

Is it that women rarely get off from PIV or that most women don't have experience with a penis large enough to get them off from PIV. Food for thought. Either way, having to compensate because your girl finds your penis insufficient is like the worst fate imaginable. I'd rather she found literally anything else about me insufficient. None of the other benefits of height outweigh that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:19 AM
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I'd rather be A. Few fates worse than having a small penis. But not quite a fair comparison, because 5'7" height is bottom 20 percentile, but 4" penis is like bottom 1-2 percentile. Whereas 6'3" height and 7" penis are similar percentile (97 vs 95). 5'3" with 7" penis is a fairer comparison. I'd still rather be that over 6'3" with a 4" penis. I'd probably pick being a literal dwarf over having a 4" penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:50 AM
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They are not even remotely as likely to be victims of SA as men are to be socially/romantically rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:37 AM
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Therapists etc would probably give some of the worst advice imaginable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:35 AM
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Uh no. Women do not face even remotely the same level of problems men do when it comes to sex/dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:34 AM
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ITT: Women who don't love their boyfriends/husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:36 AM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:27 AM
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I love how people try to defend women being sexually adventurous in the past but prudish in the present with "she tried it and decided she didn't like it", as if that makes it any better. If you were willing to try something with other men, you definintely it owe to the man you supposedly love to at least try the same thing with him. At a bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:41 AM
0

People need to start noticing that money/resources are no longer the currency with which betabuxxers pay for sex and that nowadays the currency is companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:07 AM
1

Zero. I do not feel toward robots the disgust I feel toward other men's bodies (and women who have been in contact with many of them).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:50 AM
1

Depends on who you ask and the men in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:12 AM
1

But he would've had the ability to sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:11 AM
3

Desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:12 AM
1

Obviously, a guy who can but chooses not to qualifies. You are reaching so hard to try and disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:32 AM
2

Yes she should expect him to have sex with her on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:56 PM
4

Have you heard of prostitution? It's like that except he's paying her in companionship and a family (or the promise of it) instead of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 07:03 PM
1

Not do that, and tell her she should know better than to expect me to fight a man on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:18 PM
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No, some stay single. Some date men they're not attracted to, because they'd rather have companionship and a family, even if the cost is sex with someone they're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:16 PM
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If their options are date someone they're not attracted to but get companionship and a family for the rest of their life or date nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:13 PM
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Except they are. If their options are date someone they're not attracted to but get companionship and a family for the rest of their life or date nobody, women often pick the former. More are picking the latter nowadays, but many still pick the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:37 PM
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That option is not always available for women, given how picky their sexuality is. Especially when you consider all the other priorities women have, many of which they'll place over attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:05 PM
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No, because paying for stuff isn't the only evidence that someone likes someone. Having sex with someone without getting anything else in return is the only evidence of attraction, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:56 PM
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For companionship and/or family/kids eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:55 PM
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You will know based on whether she is making him pay with companionship in order to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:50 PM
1

Nice b8 m8
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:48 PM
4

It is super fucking regarded the way this sub takes like 12 hours to approve a post, by which point you're likely busy with something else or gone to sleep, and then they delete your post for not engaging with it. So the only posts that survive are from the same 10 or so people who seemingly have nothing but time on their hands to post to this sub incessantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:47 PM
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He's only lying as much as the woman is lying to him by omitting the fact she's not actually attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:43 PM
6

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:30 PM
3

Not quite. Sex with other men is bad. Sex with me isn't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:08 PM
2

Hot women's do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:58 PM
2

You should've squirted on it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:57 PM
2

Sorry but women's actions align with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:56 PM
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Doesn't matter. Getting casual sex (specifically, sober casual sex with attractive women) is the marker of whether a man is attractive. If women appear to making it obvious that they find a man attractive, but that man is somehow unable to get casual sex (of the kind I specified), then they are not actually attracted to him and something else is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:27 PM
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When it comes up, yes. They are delicate conversations to navigate though. Can't reveal your power level, depending on the audience. The diciest conversation I had was with coworkers at a company I used to work for, when I said the main reason I don't try to date is that I'm not attracted to the kind of women who are interested in me (an answer to a question they asked). One of them told me I'm not exactly the Mona Lisa myself. I said I can't help what I find attractive. They told me to enjoy be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:25 PM
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Those men are able to get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:49 PM
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Who women choose to give sex to (hot women especially).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:23 PM
2

Sorry but women's behavior doesn't align with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:22 PM
5

Well cucks exist, so I guess not ALL men. Actually, I suppose they do care, they just prefer higher N lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:38 PM
0

Only valuing someone for their body =/= "reducing" someone to their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:34 PM
2

I forgot men aren't allowed to be physically attracted to women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:56 PM
0

Baffles me that any man would agree to an open relationship unless it's only on his side.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:19 PM
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Women sleep with broke bums if they're attractive. This woman is having to invent reasons to tell herself she finds her man attractive because she lacks actual attraction to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:17 PM
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There isn't a maximum number that would stop me from dating her, simply beause regular access to a hot woman's body is better than my alternatives. However, the higher her number, the more disgusted I will be by it, and the more likely I'll be swayed by other opportunities if they present themselves. Of course this is getting downvoted into oblivion. I forgot men aren't allowed to have preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:20 PM
0

If I were a sexhaver I have no doubt I would be fantastic at sex and make myself cum every single time!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:04 AM
5

They will reach for anything that enables them to avoid confronting the ugly reality of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:00 AM
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For women, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:29 AM
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4 is the -lifetime- median sexual partner count for women. A man looking for a low/no bodycount 23 year old is definitely not thinking of a woman who's been with 4 guys already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:10 AM
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By age 23 it's more than average, so certainly doesn't qualify as a low/no bodycount 23 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:02 AM
4

How is a bodycount of 4 by age 23 "few or no sexual partners"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:00 AM
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Wanting a girlfriend who is sexually attracted to you, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:14 AM
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It "feels off" because it's profoundly mentally regarded. Where's the half trillion dollar industry revolving around making people uglier? Impossible that anyone with an IQ above 70 believes this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:13 AM
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So a man wanting a girlfriend who is actually attracted to him is asking for "exceptional results"? And you're a bluepiller still?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:06 AM
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I'm laughing at the idea of some bitch thinking she's clever by making that observation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:58 AM
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No what they're missing is regular sex with hot women they're mutually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:54 AM
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I haven't said anything about who anyone is "supposed" to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:36 AM
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Some of you put an impressive amount of effort into this charade that clothing or style has any meaningful impact on a man's success with women. I'm impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:51 AM
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Well, not you I hope, but you've yet to disagree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:46 AM
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I'd say it's creepier to disagree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:43 AM
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Yet another woman who is completely delusional about what attracts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:42 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:42 AM
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You don't agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:41 AM
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Good. She belongs to gooner community.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:57 AM
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Lisa is a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:20 PM
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Do you think I said any problem any man has can be solved with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:08 PM
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No, what "lonely" men feel is misery over missing out on the feelings and experiences they desire most. Chief among them is sex with women they're attracted to and being found sexually valuable by those women. This can be fixed with sex. Not sex of any kind, of course. Sex with other men won't fix it. Sex with animals won't fix it. Sex with prostitutes won't fix it. Sex with unattractive women won't fix it. Only sex with women they're mutually sexually attracted to, and of course not just one in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:40 PM
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He is dangerously close to having a unibrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:21 PM
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There’s still a big taboo over women having multiple sex partners Er in Afghanistan maybe. No such taboo exists in the first world. In fact women are encouraged to have multiple sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:55 AM
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It's about a million times less gross, and even then, I doubt it wouldn't be designed with a mechanism to easily cleanse it, unlike a real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:41 AM
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You have no cause to bitch about male sexuality. It benefits you as it stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:49 AM
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The nature of female sexuality is the main thing preventing men from experiencing genuine sexual relationships. Not what I'd describe as "fantastic". The technology is not replacing romantic/sexual affection, because it is only filling a void where there was already no romantic/sexual affection. Female sexuality is what created that void.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:21 AM
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That would depend on the kind of women you attracted, and whether "attracted" is even an accurate term to describe what you experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:11 AM
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Not ALL types, especially when you don't count unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:09 AM
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Because the advice women typically give is in contradiction with the kinds of men they give sex to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:07 AM
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I have never followed women's advice. I am not speaking about me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:05 AM
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Her advice is more likely to change attractive to unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:55 PM
1

That wasn't what worked for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:54 PM
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The only conception of "self-worth" that makes sense to me is something like 'your estimation of how others value you', so I shall answer assuming that definition. Interpersonally, my self worth is increased when people are eager to talk with me, be around me, when I make them laugh. This externally validates the idea that I am intelligent, interesting, witty. I don't have any insecurities that revolve around these aspects of myself. Professionally, my self worth is increased by other people bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:52 PM
1

(Hot) Women's bodies 👍👍
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:23 PM
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Not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:22 PM
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The idea that style and dressing well has any impact on a man's attractiveness to women is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:17 PM
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The problem is more that women's advice works for no men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:16 PM
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Sexbots won't be making anyone more miserable than they already were. It's the nature of female sexuality doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:07 PM
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Well no, because that's not the only reason to not see sex workers. The biggest problem with a sex worker is the fact that she's very likely had other men's hands and cocks all over her very recently. That's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:06 PM
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Only valuing someone for sex =/= only percieving her as existing for sex. You can acknowledge something without valuing it. Not that you are saying otherwise necessarily, but confusing these two things is what allows feminism to attribute "objectification" far more broadly than is warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:33 PM
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There is no meaningful difference (at least, not to how "objectification" is typically used). Valuing someone only for sex is not objectification. You are not denying the existence of the other aspects of a person by not valuing them. To insist that it is objectification is entitlement. Suppose a man and a woman walk past each other in the street. The man values her attractiveness but nothing else about her. The woman doesn't value anything about the man at all. Feminism believes the man's feeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:29 PM
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You just made me laugh out loud, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:35 PM
2

Cute describes a different kind of feeling to hot/sexy. Cute induces feelings possessiveness, hot/sexy induces feelings of lust. I also think cuteness is the specific thing women lose with age rather than hot/sexiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:35 PM
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Women think most men look like crap because their sexuality is calibrated to only find a small portion of the best looking men attractive, and what they define as best looking is purely down to genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:31 PM
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Yeah. It doesn't have any benefits that men care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:27 PM
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Those things have no bearing on whether they'll be objectified or not. Female sexuality is entirely based on genetic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:25 PM
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I would find it hard to pick one "type", because I desire numerous traits and of them, what I desire most changes somewhat from day to day. So I will enumerate some of those types (in no particular order). Skinny but with large, perky, natural boobs. I generally prefer thicker female bodies, but if she has large perky natural breasts, then her skinniness makes them even hotter. I think because my penis reads that as her having even better boob genetics. Look up Milkhater05 before her breast redu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:20 PM
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Do men cry that? What I see men "cry" is that having options for sex with at least average members of the opposite sex (which virtually all women have) is better than no options. But that's not what we're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:13 PM
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When women say it they're just referring to an average man or even somewhat above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:10 PM
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How? They could be hooking up with ugly women. That would make them even more wrong than sexless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:08 PM
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Depends how hot and sexually enthusiastic she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:41 PM
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I asked if you'd be happy being with such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:12 PM
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So assume you're the rare man who does know (doesn't matter how you found out) and now answer the question I originally asked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:25 PM
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So they're not the same thing then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:54 PM
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Actually those two statements are materially different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:49 PM
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You are confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:39 PM
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And you got a man's answer instead, consider yourself lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:37 PM
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Aren't you thankful I answered then. I accept your gratitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:32 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:31 PM
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No, it's because women are biologically hardwired to be unable to empathize with men they're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:30 PM
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How they'd react depends entirely on whether they're actually attracted to the guy or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:27 PM
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Obviously, assume you do know she thinks that. How would the hypothetical even work if you were unaware of the thing I'm asking whether you'd be happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:24 PM
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It comes from our evolved psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:59 PM
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Would you be happy with a woman who thought the sex she had with an ex was better than the sex she has with you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:59 PM
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It is a prerational desire, so I can only hypothesize, but I imagine it's no different to how we evolved to enjoy the taste of sugar. Sexual validation was a sign that you'd have the opportunity to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:44 PM
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Women don't care about the opinions of unattractive men in and of themselves, but they do care about them as proxies for the men they are attracted to. Women in these spaces fear that their boyfriends/husbands secretly harbor the same thoughts and feelings as manosphere men, and spending time arguing against us here is an exercise in assuring themselves that actually they don't. It's a similar phenomenon to women who post to truerateme. They don't want to be attractive to the men on there person…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:34 PM
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Pretty much. Anything else is a cherry on top but it's not important or a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:22 PM
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Same reason most "victims" nowadays are not actually victims at all and just have a victim complex. They have not yet realized that you don't have to be a victim in order to feel anger about your circumstance or to hate others. You can actually just feel those feelings without ever being victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:21 PM
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That wouldn't be a tough pill to swallow at all. The tough pill to swallow is that effort is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:18 PM
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Regular access to a female body for free. Sexual validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:16 PM
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Only in the case of a man who just wants access to pussy and doesn't care about being found attractive is this analogous. That's not most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:20 AM
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By the same logic there's also no such thing as a perfect height, or age, or bodyfat %. So why did you only take issue with skin color?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:13 AM
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I have wondered if my preference for black/brown women is rooted in seeing them as more attainable. The girls who've been interested in me in my life were disproportionately brown even though I live in an extremely white majority area. But I think I do have a genuine interest in "exotic" women. I remember looking for non-white women in porn basically as soon as I started watching porn at like 12, and I had no cognizance at that time of my own value and how attainable/unattainable different kinds…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:47 AM
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You could say that about any trait that's purely aesthetic. Is there anything "non-perfect" about a man being under 6ft? Not objectively, but it is a trait that on average is considered less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:32 AM
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Terrible idea. I feel the same way about surgery, injections etc. If a woman's attraction to you hinges on having a wig glued to your head, or a piece of plastic in your face etc, then she's not actually attracted to you. I don't know why you'd even want to be with someone who's affection for you is so fickle that it would vanish if you took your wig off. The only circumstance I'd find this acceptable is if a man doesn't care about women being attracted to him at all and just wanted access to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:25 AM
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Are you arguing in favor of rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:00 PM
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The requirements have returned to their stoneage origins* If we wanted to allow only ideal members of our species to reproduce, the last thing we would do is let vaginas decide who that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:58 PM
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The moronic rules of this sub don't allow me to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:14 AM
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Women don't think that when they're the one not being committed to. Suddenly then men are afraid of commitment period.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:22 AM
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Accusing men of being "afraid of commitment" is just a lie women tell themselves so they don't have to acknowledge the fact that they're not good enough for the guy they want commitment from. A more accurate statement would be "men are afraid of committing to the wrong woman", but women conveniently leave the latter part out of the narrative they tell themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:17 AM
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It is not so uncommon that a man would only ever run into women who want relationships and none who want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:11 AM
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No, attractiveness is a continuous variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:56 AM
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If that were true then it would be even harder for unattractive men to find relationships than casual sex, but the reverse is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:53 AM
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Lol. I guess it's just a massive coincidence that he's only ever ran into women who want relationships and never women who want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:24 AM
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This is disproven by the fact that it's harder for unattractive men to get casual sex than sex in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:22 AM
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Who women give sex to disproves this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:20 AM
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Because it isn't true. If it was, it would be easier for unattractive men to get casual sex than a relationship, but the reverse is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:15 AM
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Three of those aren't looks, and the one that is isn't a form that has any bearing on attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:13 AM
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Bluepiller tier argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:03 AM
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Which are genetic, thus not relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:00 AM
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She should leave him because she's not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:12 AM
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The first, but the latter is also just not true. Better looks would get you more success from women in your prior league than a better personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:42 AM
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You're already a loser if women won't have sex with you. Whether you then actually pay for it or not is incidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:58 AM
-1

Well, no. Your money goes a lot further in a poor country, both in quantity and quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:55 AM
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For women, because men accept them wearing makeup. Women do not accept men wearing makeup. Even then, this is only relevant to face, which I can assure you is not the reason Sydney Sweeney is popular among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:52 AM
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Talk with her, make her laugh, go out on dates with her, promise or indicate intention to commit. I wouldn't need any of these things from a woman in order to have sex with her, but a woman will never have sex with me unless I give her all of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:48 AM
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If she was attracted to him then she'd blow him for her own pleasure and it would be more than enough to make her wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:44 AM
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Uh I think it's obvious why a man wouldn't announce it without the veil of anonymity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:36 AM
0

Did she have quintuplets or something. Those are the worst stretch marks I've ever seen. There's no way to sugar coat it, it's hideous. I used to know a well-off woman who had a child through surrogacy precisely because she feared what pregnancy would do to her body. She made the right call imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:35 AM
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ToS doesn't allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:33 AM
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So looks > personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:30 AM
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Women should stop acting shocked that men are attracted to sexually developed female bodies then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:29 AM
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objectively assessed attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:56 PM
2

And what is your opinion on why women don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:44 PM
1

That's not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:59 AM
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Breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:34 AM
1

Next time she should try dating a man she's attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:32 AM
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Face+body is the end all be all of attraction if you want to date hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:29 AM
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Internet made it harder for women to lie to themselves about what they actually find attractive. Plenty still do, especially when they get older and more desperate, but far fewer than did previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:10 PM
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I can't tell if you think this contradicts what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:23 AM
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Let me guess, you're a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:21 AM
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In Afghanistan maybe. Not in the first world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:17 AM
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No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:16 AM
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Nothing except the entirety of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:16 AM
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Less common =/= less socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:15 AM
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TIL wifi travels through rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:13 AM
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You mean misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:11 AM
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You must be living under a rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:10 AM
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Delusional but also irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:09 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:06 AM
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Society loves peddling the lie that an old hag will love a man more authentically than a younger woman will. The reality is that she won't love him more, she just has fewer options. There is never a reason for a man to not date younger if he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:49 AM
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Social skills can make you attractive No they can't. People just project "good social skills" onto those they already find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:22 PM
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I would estimate less than 10% of coupled women feel that when they look at their boyfriend/husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:24 AM
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I literally copypasted what I wrote. It is just illiteracy to think I rewrote it. Are you aware that "her" is singular.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:32 AM
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Never seen such desperate straw clutching. I dare you to honestly claim "her requiring you to spend a lot means x" is analogous to "all women require men to spend a lot". But you'd be better off just staying quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:13 AM
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Except she doesn't like me if she won't lower her standards for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:50 PM
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Nice dodge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:49 PM
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You ain't that strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:46 PM
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You are nanoseconds away from spamming the rofl emoji.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:45 PM
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It's impossible to even imagine what kind of broken womanlogic is required to arrive at that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:42 PM
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I imagine they're correlated (unfortunately). We'd all love to have a virgin sex addict but such women are probably vanishingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:36 PM
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Except men can't improve the things women care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:32 PM
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There's a word to describe what you're doing when you pretend like you can't compare your sexual experiences beyond shit and amazing, but it's banned on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:31 PM
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Quote the part where I said all women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:26 PM
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If she won't lower them that means she's not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:26 PM
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The reality isn't inevitable defeat, just the facts of female nature. Nah, you don't need to have a particular idea in mind. Wanting things to change is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:26 PM
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You mean female sexuality is calibrated such that it considers them not good enough for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:21 PM
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Her requiring you to spend a lot does though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:18 PM
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If you have to spend anything she's not that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:18 PM
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How would it ever be their own fault though? The things that get a man casual sex are all out of man's control.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:16 PM
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Nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:14 PM
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Acknowledging reality is never defeatism. I don't have a particular idea in mind of what the outcome of that will be, but whatever it is, I think it should come sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:13 PM
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For power over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:08 AM
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Women secretly hate porn because they know they are in competition with it but they don't want to reveal that so instead they problematize it. So much of feminine led politics of the last decade are just women problematizing things they have hangups about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:49 AM
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As an accelerationist I disagree. Men shouldn't have to be dancing monkeys for crumbs of pussy. Instagram, Tinder etc work fine if women are actually attracted to you. If they don't work for you, that means women aren't actually attracted to you. I'd much rather men collectively confront that reality, no matter how painful it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:02 AM
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I would find it hard to pick one ideal, because what I desire most changes somewhat from day to day. So I will enumerate some of those types (in no particular order). Skinny but with large, perky, natural boobs. I generally prefer thicker female bodies, but if she has large perky natural breasts, then her skinniness makes them even hotter. I think because my penis reads that as her having even better boob genetics. Look up Milkhater05 before her breast reduction for an example of the build I'm t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:54 PM
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The racoon hair is at least +1 to her smv. I don't know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:32 PM
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Valkyrae mid? I know she's 34 but damn lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:31 PM
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Except plenty of women do smoke and don't mind smokers. I'm not talking about a man being unable to get casual sex with one particular woman at one particular moment, I am talking about a man unable to get it ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:24 PM
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That would mean women don't want find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:10 PM
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You say "of course" but then appear to disagree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:40 PM
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Except women have never experienced being excluded from sex based on how they look. None of the things you list were required for women to get sex. What men are experiencing now is something women have never had to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:37 PM
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Attractive as in, women want to have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:24 PM
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No I don't. I just understand what humans actually care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:40 AM
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In things that matter to human happiness, poor men vs poor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:32 AM
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I find it impossible to believe anyone could honestly disagree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:51 AM
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That just means you like no men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:51 AM
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Actually Trump is president.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:49 AM
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No it's sex. Leftism wants men to believe it's class because they fear the consequences of men discovering it's sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:48 AM
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Does anybody actually genuinely believe that a man is attractive to women even if he can't get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:44 AM
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And you can't reason with someone spiraling. Yes looks matter unless you are REALLY deformed or REALLY unhygienic and not taking care of yourself. Except there's the lie. You do not have to be even remotely on the level of deformity as a man for zero women to find you physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:39 AM
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Doesn't matter, the vagina is attracted to genetic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:25 AM
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So the answer is no, you don't. I'm not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:48 AM
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Doja Cat may fashion a chair out of my face if she so pleases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:47 AM
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Do you hold the same energy for women who are mad and complain they can't have bodily autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:41 AM
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Are you really trying to claim there are no young women who find Leonardo DiCaprio attractive? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:37 AM
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Except women aren't saying no to men who see them as sex objects, they're saying no to unattractive men regardless of whether they see them as sex objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:36 AM
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Well no, it's not making them more bitter and lonely, women not having sex with them is doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:33 AM
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They aren't turning to it because they think it'll get them laid, they're turning to it because it tells the truth about women and it's hostility to women appeals to the animosity not getting laid has caused them to feel for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:04 AM
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You have the causality reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:12 AM
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No one slept with them or married them to get rid of those problems Why would anyone have needed to, those women could've already gotten sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:11 AM
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What "misogyny situation" existed for women in 2006?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:09 AM
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I find it impossible to imagine preferring a woman who has had sex with many other men. At most I can imagine not caring either way, but preferring it has got to be some kind of cuckoldry kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:14 PM
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Aside from the fact that "data" often just boils down to asking people questions, I am not saying men have as many close relationships/friends as women. I believe they don't, but merely because they have less appetite for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:33 AM
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Yeah I don't believe men experience "actual loneliness" more, and I suspect most of those that think they do are confusing their unfulfilled desire for sex and sexual validation from women with loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:53 PM
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No. But it isn't socially acceptable or sympathetic for men to complain about lacking sex and sexual validation from women, so they rebrand it as "loneliness" to make it more palatable. That's why it seems like men are more lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:45 PM
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That last sentence is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:00 PM
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You are obfuscating the differences in the kinds of feelings people can have for each other because the differences discomfort you. Even a mother's love for her child is conditioned on it being her child, but nobody cares about that, because the condition will never be untrue. It is not meaningfully different from unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:59 PM
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It doesn't need explaining, but you know that, you just want to avoid answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:52 PM
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Their "types" consist of the exact same physical features.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:11 PM
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Is English not your first language? How do you not understand the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:08 PM
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Casual sex is more worthy of obsession than literally any female interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:01 PM
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That's not what I said. Do you admit that, if a man cannot get sex while being an asshole, that means women aren't actually attracted to him? It isn't a difficult question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:58 PM
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They've been chosen by ugly women. They don't count obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:54 PM
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"lookism" aka the universal known truth that pretty people have it easier dating. So you admit that if a man can't get sex while being an asshole, that means women aren't actually attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:47 PM
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Except it isn't. There is very little variation in what women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:46 PM
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If that's true then that just means women aren't actually attracted to men who can't get pussy while being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:45 PM
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It's only a mix of everything if you're including getting paid sex. Like sure a prostitute won't have sex with you if you won't pay her, but I'm talking strictly about being sexually attractive to women (not even going on dates with them). To that end, only one of those factors matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:16 AM
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Except it isn't wishful thinking if a man is actually attractive. You act like attractive men can't find women who just want to hook up with them off Tinder. Of course, most men can't find that, but that's because women don't actually find them attractive. Therefore, their problem is attractiveness, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:14 AM
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I don't believe the social proof is her way of fewer people seeing me as an option, I think it's just an exercise in narcissim on her part. Many women live to be percieved. She needs others to see that she's a taken woman, that she's living the normie narrative of a fulfilling life. Her wanting to spend more time with me just means she likes me and enjoys my company. That's completely different to attraction, which is how much she wants to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:12 AM
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Right so his problem is that he's not attractive then, not that he's unwilling to be a wallet for some chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:32 AM
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Only the last of the things you mentioned is an actual barrier to attracting women. Giving him advice about anything else is just gaslighting, but you already know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:26 AM
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Against my better judgement I'd hit that without a condom nor pulling out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:22 AM
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He's not attractive. Not that I haven't seen men like him in relationships but he'd need to jestermaxx to the extreme and the women wouldn't actually be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:17 AM
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A, because B is requiring me to pay her (not in money, but in companionship and social proof) in order to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:14 AM
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Except women do lust the same way for attractive men. Therefore if you don't get the treatment women give those men, women aren't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:07 AM
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Well it's not like he gives a shit now does he
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:06 AM
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Have you heard of the block button.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:51 PM
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What you are feeling is not loneliness, but something worse. It is a complete capitulation to gynocracy that men have started rebranding their sexlessness as "loneliness".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:46 PM
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ask ChatGPT All it's gonna give you is braindead bluepill therapyspeak because that's what it's been trained on. It will tell you nothing of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:06 PM
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I'm glad you agree but plenty of people on this sub clearly think men shouldn't expect that. Even that comment I just left is already getting downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:46 PM
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Unless she is exceptionally enthusiastic (wants sex every day, initiates as much as him, never rejects his touch), then yes. The most downvoted comment I ever posted here was suggesting that I would only believe a woman I'm with is attracted to me if she acts as described above. So basically bluepillers expect men to believe a woman is attracted to them just because she hands over a crumb of pussy in exchange for exorbitant amount of effort on his part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:02 PM
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I always try to find videos but I'll jerk off to a pic if it hits the particular spot I want itched at that particular moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:58 PM
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Why would something rare be spread out evenly? It wouldn't be in reality, but it would under your argument, because you are claiming the reason some men can't get casual sex is simply because there aren't as many women who want it. I'm saying it isn't because of that, it's because those men aren't attractive to women, and casual sex is distributed only to men women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:46 PM
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That would just mean men get casual sex less frequently than the women interested in casual sex, but the distribution of it among men would be even. But it isn't. Some men have endless options for it, some men never have it even after many years. Therefore the latter men are not attractive to women, and them being able to get relationships doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:31 PM
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Women who are open to it tend to have a lot of options, which means some men simply won’t get the chance Let's stop pretending those men are attractive to women then, even if they're in a relationship. If they were, they'd be able to get casual sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:22 PM
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I genuinely don't believe a single man that claims he finds the left hotter. She's uglier, fatter (and doesn't distribute it well), older (or at least looks it) and gigantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:15 PM
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That's not slutty then is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:49 PM
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Crazy that women like her are allowed to be mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:28 PM
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Girls like the one on the right cause me physical pain. I don't know how dudes can be happy with their mid gfs when girls like her exist. Heterosexuality is a curse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:25 PM
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Obviously the ideal is casual sex with a virgin, but that's extremly rare. So then the choice is between cuck adjacency or celibacy, and the latter is more undesirable for most men. But, not all non-virgin women are equally cuck adjacent. A woman who has not had sex with a man in three years is dramatically less cuck adjecent than a woman who had sex with another man last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:55 AM
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Show bunghole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:04 AM
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I don't know why women have this idea in their head that male friend groups have a "leader". That has never been true of any friend group I was a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:02 AM
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No, I am not personally relevant to the discussion in any regard because I am talking in generalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:38 PM
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How short qualifies as short? I find shorter hair cuter, but by shorter I mean about shoulder length or just above. About this length. Would her hair be criminalized in your dictatorship? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:37 PM
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How I personally talk is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:23 PM
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No it's something someone who isn't a moron would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:44 PM
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From the horse's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:33 PM
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If he sucked at sex why did she stay in a relationship with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:29 PM
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Facts. If you have to give a woman companionship in order for her to have sex with you then she is no more attracted to you than a prostitute is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:28 PM
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How one talks has zero impact on whether they're able to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:04 PM
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Perhaps you need to be told what to believe but I don't. I arrived at this conclusion by merely noticing that if she were attracted to you, she wouldn't need you to give her something other than sex in order to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:57 PM
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No actually, it's getting laid with women who are attracted to you (among other things). If in an effort to get laid you have to perform some task that proves she isn't attracted to you then sex with her doesn't accomplish the task of getting laid with women who are attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:49 PM
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You are confusing the metrics being measured. In one, your ability to perform a task is what's being measured. In the other it is your attractiveness to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:35 PM
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So if a society or even just an area decides it doesn't want to sell homes to a particular race, you think that's "perfectly reasonable and fair"? I commend your consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:09 PM
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Paid sex doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:07 PM
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He needs to respect himself more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:12 PM
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By the women in it having sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:50 PM
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Ok then it's analogous to a homeless man whom society refuses to sell a home to. Whether it is an offense or not has no bearing on whether it causes someone to be angry. Not getting a thing you want is what causes someone to be angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:34 PM
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I don't know why a man would care about improving the world that doesn't give him sex, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:04 PM
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If I ask to eat your donut and you say no, you are denying my request. Deny definitionally has nothing to do with whether you're owed the thing in question or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:00 PM
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Because having sex makes you happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:59 PM
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I am making no argument about what women should or shouldn't do. I am making an argument about the fact of their nature. As to "why get angry?", it isn't a choice. It's like asking someone why feel pain when their arm is chopped off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:58 PM
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The "research" is bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:04 PM
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Being “denied” implies that one is entitled No it doesn't. At all. There is no requirement that the thing in question is owed to someone for it to qualify as being denied to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:04 PM
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It isn't sex addiction, it's just heterosexuality, and most men are heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:01 PM
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You needn't be owed something to be denied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:00 PM
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Women love sociopaths if they're attractive. Engage your brain, sexual self esteem is how sexually valuable you consider yourself to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:59 PM
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Except that won't bring them happiness because they'll still be being denied sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:21 PM
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Wrong. If you live in the first world, money isn't the reason you're unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:21 PM
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Do you think sexless men want to hear about the child with no limbs in Gaza? Get a clue. Stop outsourcing your self esteem to validation from women Deriving your sexual self esteem from anything other than how attracted other people are to you is just delusion. That only works for delusional people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:20 PM
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the initial effort tends to fall on men Except it doesn't when women are actually attracted to a man. So if a woman is making you perform some charade to win her affection that means she's not attracted to you. Men want women to be attracted to them. that they become completely blind to the relationship they actually have in front of them Ignoring women's behavior toward other men is what would make a man blind to what the relationship in front of him actually is. only register in context. Every…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:17 PM
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You're right, human happiness is much more dependent on having sex and relationships than economic status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:06 PM
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Why would they want to improve the world that denies them sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:05 PM
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I don’t really see the big deal Then you are asexual. That sounds miserable to me, for the man and the women. Yeah a harem is every man's worst nightmare. There’s plenty else to do in life None of it fulfills the male desire for sex and sexual validation from women. Just leave it alone and be happy Imagine telling limbless Gazan children to just be happy. There's plenty more to life than having limbs. That doesn't mean missing limbs isn't going to be immensely distressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:04 PM
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Don't come to the PPD megathread virtual reality clubhouse tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:50 AM
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Hating yourself isn't natural. If someone hates themselves it is because they've been indoctrinated into it. Hate is supposed to be directed toward others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:45 PM
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Why do you want a boyfriend if you don't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:39 PM
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Not my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:39 PM
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For men it is more about a lack of recieving lust rather than love but you're generally correct. However women aren't about to start lusting for men they currently don't so hate is the only option left for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:38 PM
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We're not all here to love and not to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:27 PM
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#NotAll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:24 PM
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For women, if other people don't know something happened to them, then it's as if it didn't happen. Women live to be perceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:24 PM
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It is reality for attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:47 PM
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Chris Hedges must've switched sides and not just politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:46 PM
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Except it's not dumb, immature or selfish for attractive men. For attractive men it is reality. Women are doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:41 PM
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Sex on demand means being able to have sex when you want it. Wanting that does not mean you want it from women even if they don't want to give it. For most men it means they want women to want to give it to them, like women do to attractive men. I didn't say a majority of people are giving men sex on demand. I said women are giving attractive men sex on demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:27 PM
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Expelled from the stars? What the fuck are you talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:26 PM
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Wanting sex on demand does not mean you want women to give it to you even if they don't want to. It isn't a difficult concept for us, it's a difficult concept for bluepillers. All men would choose sex on demand given the option. Somehow that doesn't stop women from giving attractive men sex on demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:38 PM
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Nothing wrong with wanting sex on demand. Women give that to attractive men all the time. Of course most men can't get that, but that's because women aren't attracted to them. The problem is the bluepill lie that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:25 PM
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Except a woman having sex with a comatose man doesn't rule out non physical reasons. In fact it introduces one, that being that she's mentally ill. If it was projection or solipsism then attractive men wouldn't be able to get sex with sober women off Tinder. But they are. Women outnumbering men would mean there is an uneven distribution of sex between men and women, not between some men and some other men. Not unless there is some distinction between the men, which is precisely what I am arguing…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:21 PM
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I highly suspect that virtually all non-religious men who claim to not want anything short term are just protecting themselves from the ugly truth of how unattractive they are to women. They fear how unsuccessful they'd be if they tried to openly get something short term with a woman off an app, so they preemptively don't even try so as to avoid confirming that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:13 PM
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I just don't believe women feel physical attraction to comatose men. If they did then sure you could make that a requirement but I don't believe they do. If women had sex with men they're not attracted to because they're "bored and horny" then ugly men would be able to get sex off Tinder just as much as attractive men do. Except they aren't, because that's not something women do. When women are bored and horny, they have sex with men they're attracted to. Enough normie women do want strange dick…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:56 PM
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It's not a "tiny" part, it's actually a big part for most humans. Self love is not the desire going unfulfilled. Being sexually attractive to women is the desire going unfulfilled. No amount of self love fulfills the lack of being sexually attractive to women. "Rights" are made up, nobody's self esteem is dependent on that. People desire them for practical reasons. The lack of other alternatives does not magically change the fact that men desire to be sexually attractive to women. I don't know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:50 PM
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Except a woman having sex with a comatose body has nothing to do with how physically attractive the man is, she's just an anomalous mentally ill woman. Getting sex with sober women off Tinder has everything to do with how physically attractive he is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:44 PM
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There is no such thing as sexual self worth that doesn't derive from how sexually attractive other people find you. If you think you are sexually valuable despite nobody wanting to have sex with you, you are just delusional. A home and good finances does not get men the sex they crave so much, it gets them sex with a prostitute. Men don't want that (well, most).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:15 PM
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Goomba fallacy. My goalposts have always been here. If a man wanting a woman to be physically attracted to him is comparable to a woman wanting a man to love a worm then that really proves my whole point doesn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:09 PM
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No, it's because of what I said. Women are voluntarily sexless, men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:06 PM
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The psyhological need is being validated as a sexually viable male by women. Not any of the crap you talked about in your original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:51 PM
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Duh. When women are sexless it's voluntary. When men are it's rarely voluntary. Having an experience you didn't choose is worse than having one you chose. Also it has nothing to do with "loneliness", it's just not socially acceptable for men to whine about sexlessness, so men who still care about being socially accepted rebrand it as "loneliness".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:17 PM
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There needs to be a different term for casual sex with drunk women you met at bars/parties and casual sex with sober women off a dating app. The latter is far more desirable than the former and it is getting annoying how often I talk about the latter and people think I'm talking about the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:04 PM
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I saw one clip from it and the interviewer seems like an idiot. For some reason, he struggled to understand that you can believe something is bad while also choosing to profit from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:36 PM
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Understanding something does not mean it is "deep". Getting casual sex with hot women without paying for it is the measure of how attractive a man is. Not a deep observation, but a correct one, and one still too deep for blue pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:23 PM
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Blue pill has no argument against the fact that most men can't get casual sex with hot women without paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:20 PM
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The data can still be useful, for example by comparing the ratings given on average by two different groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:31 AM
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If you think most men can get casual sex with hot women without paying for it then you are the delusional one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:24 AM
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No, it is just reality. Whether people think about it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:11 AM
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"Casual sex with hot women without paying for it" debunks 99% of what bluepillers say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:06 AM
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No, it's because women's behavior proves it. We see which men get casual sex with hot women without paying for it. Those are the men women are genuinely attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:04 AM
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the one who is just busting is most likely to leave you as sex and lust are easy to find. Love is harder to find Actually for most men it is harder to find women who are sexually attracted to them than women who will love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:58 AM
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Old or young
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:47 PM
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I'm cooming even harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:45 PM
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What are her breast measurements?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:43 PM
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Yes, I literally just said I won't, how observant of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:38 PM
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Not in a relationship but I'm answering anyway. Physical desire. I can get valued for everything else from other people in my life. Being sexually desired is the only thing I want to be valued by women for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:24 PM
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I don't know what you said but you were probably blatantly lying about the reasons you like him. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:20 PM
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When women shut up about men I'll shut up too. Actually, I won't, but women who think I should have no leg to stand on until they shut up themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:18 PM
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Women should start assuming that men much more attractive than them are lying to them. They won't, but they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:16 PM
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No dude cares about being "relationally attractive" to women. Men care about being sexually attractive (which means physically attractive) to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:10 PM
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Except this particular "makeover" is hiding the fact that he's balding, which is the only reason it looks better to women. So he's frauding his genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:08 PM
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Shit like this is why dudes should expect daily initiations of sex from their girlfriend and take it as a sign of a lack of attraction if she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:03 AM
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This is why the ability to get casual sex with hot women without paying for it is the measure of how attractive you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:57 AM
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He's frauding his genetics. The only reason women think he looks better is because he now doesn't look like he's balding. Any girlfriend who would pressure him to get the latter cut is a girlfriend who isn't actually attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:51 AM
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How does that relate to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:28 PM
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I wasn't talking about "getting along with" someone, I was talking about attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:27 PM
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Did you not read the image
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:35 AM
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No. The women who chose A are just slightly better at suppressing their impulses. They share the same whorish nature, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:23 AM
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Bunch of whores, every single one. They're all exactly the same. Bunch of CUNT whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:19 AM
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What percentage (roughly) of the times you initiate does he turn you down?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:03 AM
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I think they're just seeking out hot women, and I don't blame them. It's not like an uglier/older woman will be any more genuinely attracted to them. So if you have to pay for it either way, you may as well get your money's worth, so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:57 AM
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Congrats, you're now a part of the campaign I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:16 AM
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Better than any alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:15 AM
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Lol, if only that was true!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:12 AM
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Then I dare you to say all women are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:11 AM
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That is genuinely a big reason why I'll never be mad about not being rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:10 AM
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What part wasn't clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:06 AM
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The absolutist statement, while technically incorrect, leaves an impression that is closer to the truth than the technically correct statement. Yes, something that is true of 99.9999% of people is still technically only "most" people, but nobody interprets "most" to mean 99.9999%. "Most" is interpreted more like 70%, or 90%, or something like that. So saying 100%, while technically incorrect, is closer to the truth than the impression people get from "most".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:04 AM
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That sounds like bullshit women tell men to keep them on a leash. Luckily for men, women's actions disprove the bullshit that falls out of their mouth on a daily basis, all they have to do is pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:58 AM
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That just means Jane isn't capable of being attracted to someone as strongly as Sally is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:12 AM
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Right but there isn't a societal campaign to convince women men aren't shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:09 AM
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But I'm not sure why I'd be upset about being used for companionship. Isn't that the goal? Someone who loves me and my company just for that? No. That's called a friend. Maybe if you're asexual that's the goal. The concept of being used for companionship needs to catch on, it bothers me that people still hold this prehistoric conception of betabuxx that is exclusively about money/resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:05 AM
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Whether she has a "high sex drive" is irrelevant, only that she desires sex with me regularly (as in, daily or near enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:00 AM
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How is Jane "wildly attracted" if she rarely wants sex with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:58 PM
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Maybe not under your definition, but I don't care whether a woman is "attracted" to me in some gay bluepill sense of the word, I care that she feels sexual desire for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:39 PM
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Yeah and I think you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:29 PM
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How is attraction equal if one wants to have sex with the other more than the other does with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:27 PM
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Why would it be about anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:03 PM
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If she's attracted to me, why doesn't she want sex with me 4 out of the 7 days?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:01 PM
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Someone posted a similar question earlier but it got removed. This was my answer so I'm resposting it here. She wants sex with me pretty much daily. She is receptive to the vast majority of my advances. She initiates sex herself at least as frequently as I do. She never rejects my touch. She never places conditions sex (eg. only having sex if we go out on a date), neither explicitly nor implicity. Exceptions to these in extraneous circumstances are acceptable, like if she is unwell or if we can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:43 PM
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You are downplaying it in this very post. All women are shallow, it's not some small subset that are. The closest to non-shallow women ever get are asexual women, but they're asexual so who cares, they don't count. ALL sexual women are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:20 PM
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Ugly face/hot body. I can ignore an ugly face but if a woman has no tits or ass then what are you even having sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:07 PM
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Woman tier answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:06 PM
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No, it won't find most of them casual sex with hot women ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:36 PM
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All men desire casual sex with hot women, most just can't acquire it. It's baffling you think such a desire is abnormal for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:07 PM
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The offense comes from the fact that it means she's not actually attracted to you if you have to jester to keep her interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:50 PM
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There is an error in your logic. The fact that men want hot women to desire them sexually does not mean they don't desire sex with hot women. Even the fact that they'd reject sex with hot women who don't desire them does not mean they don't desire sex with hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:32 PM
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Those men are attracted to those women definitionally. That they claim otherwise is a different matter. You being a woman actually means you have worse psychological insight into women's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:25 PM
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The shape of the penis does not indicate that women desire sexual variety at all, and the biological fact that women are not capable of benefiting from sexual variety disproves the idea that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:23 PM
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What specifically do you think I am in denial of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:12 PM
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What do you think attraction is? It's who you want to have sex with. And even in your example, he didn't say he'd never fuck a woman over 25. You are one datapoint. Something being true or false for you personally says nothing about what's true or false for women generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:09 PM
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Aren't personal insults against the rules here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:07 PM
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You're debating a ghost. Literally no man claims no men want to fuck women older than 25. No, variety isn't women's sexuality, because the nature of reproduction for women didn't allow them to evolve it. For males, the optimal sexual strategy is spreading seed far and wide, because it costs a male almost nothing to impregnate a woman. For females, the optimal sexual strategy is holding out for the best possible mate, since reproduction is highly costly for women comparatively. In the time it tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:01 PM
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Cause her not being into it is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:37 PM
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Nobody claims men are only attracted to younger women, just that they are more on average, and this is true. Men desire sexual variety. It's one of the reasons porn is so addictive to men. It presents men with a smorgasbord of women of all different shapes, sizes, colors, performing almost any kind of act you can imagine. Think about your favorite food. Is it the only thing you ever want to eat? Likely not. Some days, probably most days, you'd prefer to eat something else, and this doesn't negat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:35 PM
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No, wanting casual sex does not mean you want to exploit women or raise your status amongst other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:20 PM
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Mindreading isn't necessary, just observe women's actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:01 PM
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Yeah women severely lack self awareness on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:52 PM
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Except you don't. Good looking men can barely be people and women will still want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:43 PM
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He looks better, but also like a different kind of person. I can understand her finding the new look discomforting if she doesn't like the kind of men who typically have that look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:42 PM
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He barely had hair before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:36 PM
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Except you don't. Good looks is all you need to enter. You might get kicked out later but that's only a problem for men who care about staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:31 PM
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The latter would attract younger, hotter girls, so short is superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:29 PM
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If it is, bluepill is debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:26 PM
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It's hilarious how they contradict each other, yet somehow never actually debate each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:17 PM
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It won't find them casual sex with hot women without paying for it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:16 PM
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Fat/ugly/otherwise unattractive women are actually the ones I won't treat poorly. Since I don't want to have sex with them, they haven't robbed me of anything by not having sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 06:41 PM
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A safe one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:40 AM
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All.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:39 AM
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This is like saying starving people need to find sustenance in the air. That would be great, but it isn't biologically possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:37 AM
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Except "attractive" means the same tiny percentage of men to those women. So yes, they do have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:34 AM
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Your partner's attractiveness is absolutely going to impact how happy you'll be in a relationship with them. No amount of kindness, listening to or showing up for each other, integrity etc is going to make up for a lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:28 AM
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I'm sure somewhere a woman exists who wouldn't mind her boyfriend paying for OnlyFans girls but the vast majority would.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:19 AM
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The right girl wouldn't have a higher N than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:49 AM
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So a woman who notices her husband paying for OnlyFans girls and doesn't like it is insecure just because she noticed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:48 AM
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Except I literally just said I'm not talking about logistical barriers to having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:02 PM
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It has everything to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:27 PM
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It goes without saying that I'm not talking about logistical barriers to having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:22 PM
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Yes necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:21 PM
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Women who are horny have sex with men they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:13 PM
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They're the same thing if she's not getting paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:57 PM
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It is relevant because you are suggesting that men are insecure for wanting a woman to be attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:56 PM
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I don't know why you slept with a guy you weren't attracted to but that is not the female norm. If it was, it would be easier for unattractive men to get casual sex than sex in relationships, but it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:46 PM
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We're not talking about whether she likes you, we're talking about whether she's attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:22 PM
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It's a pretty good indicator of it if there's no other likely explanation for why she's having sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:14 PM
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"I want" =/= "I'm owed".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:10 PM
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Why do people on here think it's "insecurity" for a man to want a woman he's dating to be attracted to him? If that's insecurity then all desires related to how someone else feels about you are insecurity. Want your friend to like you? You're insecure. Want your partner to love you? You're insecure. Of course, nobody agrees with that. The label "insecurity" is only selectively applied to the contexts that mostly affect men, because we live under gynocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:50 AM
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Sometimes I get coffee at my favorite spot and I can walk right up and order. Other times I have to wait 5-10 mins. It's nothing personal. It's not about me. Correct, in the case of getting coffee, how long you have to wait is not about you. Furthermore, even if it was, you do not care about how the coffee shop feels about you, only getting your coffee. Neither of these are true when it comes to how quickly a woman has sex with you. It is about you and how she feels about you. And unless you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:43 AM
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Is it "insecurity" to want a woman you're dating to be attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:41 AM
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No it's because women do it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:08 AM
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The "results" are irrelevant, since they consist of nothing more than women's answers to a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:01 AM
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"Studies" and it's just asking women their opinion. LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:38 PM
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This is an asexual's understanding of sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:37 PM
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Sex with a man they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:04 PM
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To sustain the narrative that allows you to find greater meaning in your relationships than they warrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:48 AM
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You give women far too much credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:45 AM
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There's the lying I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:53 AM
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No, the proof of attraction is not high at all, if women are actually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:32 AM
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What I'd like to be done about it is society stopping lying to men about that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:31 AM
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Fewer men would be in relationships with women who see them as a wallet, yeah. I think that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:29 AM
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Except that isn't true at all. Your social skills can be piss poor and women won't care if they're actually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:28 AM
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Except they aren't if women are actually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:57 AM
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Rarely is a guy going to get a sexually reserved woman suddenly begging for his dick unless he is that exceptional. Except you aren't denying that this ever happens, so while you don't realize it, all you're saying is that women are rarely genuinely attracted to a man. So, if it's an unrealistic fantasy for most men to want a woman who is genuinely attracted to him, let's stop lying to ourselves about that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:56 AM
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If you need "social skills" to get laid it's because women don't actually find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:49 AM
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I dare you to answer the questions he asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:38 AM
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Incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:17 AM
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You mean correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:34 AM
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The "loneliness epidemic" is a cultural narrative, not a conclusion derived from a poll. And that poll is not the only "source" because polls are not the only source of information. In fact they're a pretty useless one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:02 AM
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It has nothing to do with friends. It is about lacking sex and sexual validation from women, but that doesn't win anyone any pity points, so men dress it up as "loneliness" because that's treated as more worthy of empathy (though it shouldn't be). Zero "lonely" men would feel less lonely having more friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:21 AM
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Next you'll tell raped women to take accountability for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:16 AM
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How many short, bald, facially deformed men have you let ejaculate inside you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:03 AM
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Correct, that's why pointing to the percentage who are outright virgins is not a useful metric. The useful metric would be something like the percentage who can get regular casual sex without paying for it, dumpster diving or too much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:21 AM
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Women's fault for making so many of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:27 PM
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Well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:26 PM
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Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:12 PM
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My condolences to your boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:58 PM
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Women reach for personal insults almost immediately. They cannot hold frame at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:54 AM
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She should crave that too but if she asks for it there's some chance she doesn't crave the act itself and just wants to babytrap you. But nutting in her mouth serves no other purpose, so if she wants it, it can only be because she desires the act itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:57 AM
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You mean from whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:52 AM
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If a woman doesn't crave her boyfriend/husband ejaculating in her mouth then she's not attracted to him True or false
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:39 AM
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"Genetic quality" has yet to be defined in any meaningful way, nor its relevance to my topic. I defined it later in the comment. As a woman, when I evaluate the looks of a couple, your penis has nothing to do with that. Perhaps not mine personally, but what makes men in general's dicks hard has something to do with it, because that's part of (but not entirely) what determines the attractiveness of a woman. "Finding someone attractive" isn't about finding them sexually attractive?? Please read ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:29 AM
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Or you can just say you agree with the principle generally but not absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:40 AM
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The principle that people should be able to communicate their beliefs without material repurcussions. You don't have to agree with the principle absolutely to agree with it generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:48 AM
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You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You identify a real problem but it isn't a reason to be anti free speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:43 AM
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I use the word rape on the internet all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:23 AM
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When you get into the realm of "ugly" there are far too many variables that can make someone "ugly" to make this a useful group to reference. Ok? What I said is true of all attractiveness levels. A man and woman of equal genetic quality are not going to be equally attractive because we have much lower standards for finding women attractive. This, once again, is not just about what makes a man's dick hard. I don't know why you think I'm exclusively talking about what makes men's dicks hard. Of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:21 AM
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I wasn't talking about "ugly women" nor "ugly men." The only groups I referenced are average and higher. What I said is true of all attractiveness levels. A man and woman of equal genetic quality are not going to be equally attractive because we have much lower standards for finding women attractive. As men here say all the time, "just don't be fat." They say that specifically as an acknowledgement of men's lower standards. He is not going to be as physically attractive per the conditions and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:25 PM
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It is technically true that an ugly woman is more attractive than an equally ugly man, but that's just because men are far less picky, not because she has better genes than the man. But if you were to say she's more attractive than the man, people will interpret that to mean the latter, not the former. And while men may be less picky, we still live in a monogamous society with a 1:1 gender ratio. So your subjective level of attractiveness to the opposite sex isn't particularly relevant. The perc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:51 PM
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Next you'll say a woman too weak to fight off her rapist was the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:38 PM
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It is irrelevant who "the problem" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:38 PM
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It was certainly written by a female mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:50 AM
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I love the idea that emotional intelligence has anything to do with desirability. Just cosmic levels of delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:49 AM
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Guarantee she makes that exact face when it's about to get busted on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:07 AM
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This is like saying you're unhappy because you don't have downs syndrome because people with downs syndrome tend to be happy and you'd likely be too if you also had downs syndrome. That's not incorrect but also misses the point. Some things are more important to us than happiness. For me, truth is more important than happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:45 AM
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I forgive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:38 AM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:37 AM
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It's not AI, the chick just likes sticking her tongue out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:35 AM
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She's 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:32 AM
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Sure, lots of men don't realize they advertize themselves as wallets.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:30 AM
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Sure, lots of men don't realize they advertize themselves as wallets.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:28 AM
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<image> You're telling me this isn't prime goonbait?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:25 AM
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They're preferable to women who see you as a wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:22 AM
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really cool and adorable The correct term is goonbait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:16 AM
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But if you have no occupation at all and just lie around all day, you're toast. If they're not actually attracted to you sure. Unemployment never stopped an attractive man from getting pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:15 AM
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Hate how chicks like her usually get fake tits. They look disgusting. She is otherwise super hot, I don't understand why they ruin their chest like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:29 PM
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I don't have a static ideal, it changes from day to day. Some days I'm into large breasts, some days large asses. Some days muscular, some days thick. Some days latinas, some days black chicks. Some days bleached asshole, some days brown asshole. Etc. The common thread though is shape. I can't stand women with no shape. Like no tits or ass, unathletic legs, no hip to waist ratio. Unfortunately most women of my own race are like this and I live in an extremely homogeneous area. I think one of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:27 PM
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If you enjoy dating women who aren't attracted to you good for you but most men don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:12 PM
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I love how bloopers pathologise a man wanting women to be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:11 PM
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Therapy is for stupid people who don't have real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:38 AM
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Rare case of a woman actually getting hotter as she got older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:37 AM
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People try to debunk this with things like "well what if a guy who can't get casual sex gets a girlfriend who initiates sex every day???", and the problem with that is that it just doesn't happen. Any man who has a girlfriend who initiates sex every day would also be able to get casual sex. There are no men who magically found the one woman who is really horny for him and zero other women are at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:30 AM
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Better alone than with a woman who isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:27 AM
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A woman succeeding at sleeping around isn't an accomplishment, let alone a reason to like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:18 AM
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Do you think that contradicts my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:21 AM
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No, most men care about having kids in the way that I'm using the term (ie, actually their kid).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:14 AM
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Small problem: they're not actually your kid (nor hers). Which most men care about. Surrogacy solves this though. Still your and your wife's kid, just grown in another body.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:57 AM
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Of course, but his shittiness has no affect on his ability to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:53 PM
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Women don't believe there is a correct way because they don't believe men not getting sex is a real problem. The irony is that many of them identify men's desire for sex and female validation as the root cause of a lot of male mistreatment of women, but then turn around and say lacking access to those things is not a real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:22 PM
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No they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:43 PM
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Well no, because I'm a man and she's a woman. I asked why would you really like a girl who is a slut, not a person who is a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:56 AM
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No, women deny it implicitly every time they insist the predominant reason men struggle is because of their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:56 AM
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Most women don't admit that, and implicitly deny it when they insist the major reason men struggle is because of pErSoNaLiTy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:16 AM
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I assume they're getting paid. If not, women have somehow managed to lower my opinion of them even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:06 AM
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Why would wanting them yourself mean you can't dislike a woman who's had them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:04 AM
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Depends on the type of porn and whether she's gooning over the dude or just the whole situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:31 PM
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B. Voting is an emotional act for me, I don't do it because I think my vote makes a meaningful difference. I would need my vote to count for at least 10000 votes before I'd consider picking A.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:28 PM
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I find this absolutely confounding. The mindset required to do something like this for anyone is bewildering, let alone for dudes who warrant zero respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:26 PM
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Why would you "really like" a girl who was a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:17 PM
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This is like that other braindead female belief women have that they're only either attracted to a man or not, no gradations. It is a self deception to deal with the fact that they can't secure the men they actually feel the most attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:16 PM
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Your first sentence is true but it's definitely an even bigger L if she participated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:09 PM
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Women have sex with men they don't find attractive all the time in order to get something from them, whether it be money, or companionship, or a family, or validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:00 AM
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A man shouldn't have to share a house with other people to improve his dating success, and it highlights how stratospheric women's standards are that this is suggested as a way for a man to improve his chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:32 PM
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The "prostate" is a feminist psyop, and you've fallen for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:19 PM
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That isn't why men don't want to be with women who only want them for their money. They don't want that because they want to be wanted physically and personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:45 PM
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The female asshole is the third sex hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:17 PM
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This is always a really annoying point made by someone who doesn't notice they're saying something nobody cares about. This answer requires you to understand that the meaning of language is subjective. If you don't understand that then stop reading because you will not comprehend this point. When people describe a relationship as transactional, they mean something along the lines of two people not actually liking each other but getting something from each other (often money but not always). If t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:58 PM
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Nothing causes the female mind to short circuit quite like the simple fact that men are sexually attracted to sexually developed female bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:28 AM
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There are no 9 year olds with developed breasts/ass/hips/legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:26 AM
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So women with flat chests and naturally narrow hips look infertile and unattractive to you? Yes. Regardless of their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:19 AM
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What is your definition of "child"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:18 AM
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Pedophilia means being sexually attracted to prepubescent children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:13 AM
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I agree it's unrealistic for most men to want women to be attracted to them, but it isn't a choice. We are biologically hardwired to want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:33 AM
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It is what I want, I just want it with women who are attracted to me. Not wanting casual sex with women who aren't attracted to me =/= not wanting casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:00 AM
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There are men who don't have to put in any effort in order to get casual sex. That is because women actually find them attractive. Therefore, if you do have to put in effort to get casual sex, it's because the women don't find you attractive. At which point you are essentially paying a hooker for sex. Most men don't desire sex with hookers and that fact does not mean they don't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:28 AM
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What is your bra size?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:15 AM
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Young women are not stupid. Women can shut up about them being "manipulated" by older men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:14 AM
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They wouldn't go for prepubescent children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:12 AM
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We're talking about attraction, not love. Women who are asexual or have little interest in sex can still fall in love. But it is also a massive assumption that they have even fallen in love. You can want someone's commitment without being in love with them, even if it's just because it's better than loneliness. And finally, if they actually were attracted, they would not require commitment to have sex with them. That's the bottom line.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:18 AM
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This does not contradict what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:15 AM
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I glanced at the infographic in that first link and saw 405 matches with hair vs 342 matches without, and felt genuinely shocked. Then I saw it's 285 female matches with hair vs 27 female matches without. Because of course it is. Less than 10% matches without hair vs with. Also of course, very similar results in the second link. I dread to imagine the kind of lies women would be getting away with if it weren't for Tinder. Tinder is woman's greatest enemy. Thank GOD for Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:13 AM
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It is a form of payment when a woman refuses to have sex with a man unless he gives her it. Of course, sometimes it is what you say, since women sometimes have sex with men without any expectation of commitment. But that is often not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:48 AM
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They aren't interchangeable. Liking someone's personality doesn't cause attraction (though liking someone's personality is often caused by attraction). So the former can not be taken as proof of the latter. Lots of women have little to no interest in sex but still desire companionship and/or a family. These are reasons why women would date a man they like but aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:26 AM
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I dare you to detail what you think I'm misunderstanding about commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:21 AM
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I think that's true. Most of the women I knew who identified as autistic (and who I believed actually were) basically had male sexuality. I vaguely remember a study from a few years ago that concluded autism was "extreme male brain", so this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:15 AM
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Whether she likes you or not is irrelevant. She's not ATTRACTED to you if she refuses sex unless she's paid in the form of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:08 AM
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That is mostly not possible and to the extent that it is, way more effort than lying about intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:06 AM
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It is, but so it should. Romance built on lies deserves to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:34 PM
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Hypergamy confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:30 PM
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Chadfishing debunks everything bluepill belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:27 AM
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Well not always, and even when it is, there are gradations to how much darker they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:20 AM
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I didn't know one of the asians was latina and I can't tell what race the asians are. But this is how I'd order them. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 12:30 AM
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Interesting. I thought girl/boybands died outside of K-Pop. Anyway, here's how I'd rate them, from most attractive to least: The black one. The indian one. The asian ones. The white one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:05 PM
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If she's attracted to me she would. I've seen the inboxes of attractive men on Tinder and they get a tsunami of women messaging them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:16 PM
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Alone is better than with someone who isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:15 PM
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If she's attracted to me yeah. If not I'd have to compete for her attention, but I don't desire the attention of women who aren't attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:39 PM
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Her attraction to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:30 PM
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She'll see my profile on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:22 PM
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If you have to compete to get her attention then she's not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:36 PM
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I love how women think it's some kind of cosmic injustice when an ugly man gets a hot woman. If I was rich I would probably do what he did. It's transactional, but so would be any relationship he'd get at home. Only she'd be much uglier. If you have to pay for it, may as well go somewhere you get a lot more for your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:45 PM
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Of course that's important to me. Imagine if a woman found out her husband would've been willing to spend a year's worth of his salary on an engagement ring for a top 0.1% woman, but didn't for her. She's going to find that problematic, and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:24 PM
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Because the implication of "most women don't want casual sex" is different if they mean most don't want it period vs most just don't want with men who aren't highly attractive. If it's the former, then a man being unable to get casual sex with a woman who doesn't want casual sex says nothing about how attractive she finds him. If it's the latter, then it says something very specific about how attractive she finds him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:14 PM
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Yes it does, because women wanting casual sex even once in a blue moon matters. Especially if the blue moons are very attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:08 PM
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Whether they actually meet them or not doesn't matter. The fact that they'd be willing is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:35 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:34 PM
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No it just means they won't do FWB/ONS with most of the men they'd be willing to date but they would with the most attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:18 PM
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I also like the inherent insult of someone liking you but not super liking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:51 PM
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As a wise man once said: For a woman, if other people don't know it happened, it's as if it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:31 PM
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Yeah and like I already said, men are more likely than women to be sexual predators =/= all or even most men are sexual predators. And like I also already said, the woman in the post believes the latter, as she thinks men not hiring male babysitters is in contradiction with the idea that "it's not all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:27 PM
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Nah they're just incorrect. I remember you tried to make the same defense of the whole "this is why I choose the bear" thing. It's just women being bad at math.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:09 PM
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No she's just making an incorrect point. If she doesn't want men to point that out she can just avoid making incorrect points.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:59 PM
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Lmfao. Firstly don't get your panties in a bunch. Secondly the woman in the post thinks the fact that men wouldn't hire a male babysitter is in contradiction with the idea "it's not all men". It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:55 PM
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This is woman math. Men are more likely than women to be sexual predators =/= all or even most men are sexual predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:49 PM
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Ragebait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:15 AM
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Are you a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:09 AM
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I don't have a partner, but even if I found one, I don't want kids so this isn't a problem for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:05 AM
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Were they talking about the vagina specifically? Cause I just find it very hard to believe a man would prefer that. I understand liking things like pregnancy tits, I can find that hot myself. But even then that's during pregnancy. Afterwards, tits are often not in their best shape especially after breastfeeding. I suppose it's not literally impossible that a man could prefer the body of a woman that gave birth to his kids but like I said I just find it so hard to believe lol. Guess I'll never kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:41 AM
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It's easy to say they should do X or Y but it's not so simple in reality. Like a guy is supposed to forgo children just because he prefers a tidy vag? In practice no man is gonna make that choice, they're just gonna chance it and hope they get lucky. Then the unlucky ones will find themselves in a sticky situation. Sure but we're not really talking about the birth of their child though, we're talking about her vagina after it. You can think the birth of your child was a beautiful thing while als…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:29 AM
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When a man laments not meeting some criteria women have, people often try to console him by pointing out that it's just a preference, not a dealbreaker, but they don't realize that that actually makes it worse. I would much rather a woman reject me for not meeting some criteria of hers than have her choose to date me despite not meeting it. The idea of dating someone who has a preference I don't fulfill disgusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:22 AM
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He may not complain about it, but the woman probably cares about more than just whether he voices his feelings or not, but rather whether he is actually satisfied by her still. In any case, there are vaginal rejuvenation surgeries that exist if it does become a problem. Or maybe he'll get lucky and she snaps right back into place naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:07 AM
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That isn't really relevant to the context in which the comparison between men's height vs women's weight usually arises, which is a contest over which is more unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:59 AM
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I imagine it's much more forgivable in that case but I find it hard to believe the man would prefer it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:56 AM
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No, everyone could become skinny, the ones who don't just choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:51 AM
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I'm devastated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:46 AM
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I was speaking to the visual difference, though I doubt it doesn't translate into a difference in tightness as well, given that part of the visual difference is the hole itself just being larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:38 AM
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I think all women are Chadsexual, but I have noticed that women who identify as dommes especially seem to demand conventionally attractive men. I think because they need that to balance out the unattractiveness of a submissive demeanor in a man. The kink must not be so much about attraction to submissiveness, but about the fact of a high value man submitting to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:33 AM
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Excessively large woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:28 AM
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Woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:15 AM
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Well, no. You may not agree with OP's criteria but what you identify yourself as is most definitely not the criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:01 AM
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A well off woman I used to know was having a kid via surrogacy precisely because she feared what pregnancy would do to her body, and I think she made the right call. Not that I've seen a pussy pre and post childbirth IRL, but there's plenty of pornstars who did porn before and after pregnancy and it often blows the pussy out. It's funny how years of gigantic cocks are a drop in the bucket compared to the damage a baby's head can do. Some also are more unfortunate and end up with a belly that loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:59 AM
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Sex. And I don't believe almost any man who claims he'd rather be desired for companionship but not sex than the other way around. And the few who'd claim that who I'd actually believe are asexual men, and the tiny, tiny percentage of men who easily find women who desire them for sex but not companionship. Even then, those men are like rich men claiming they'd rather be poor. They would not claim that had they actually experienced lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:29 AM
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You are confusing the fact that people have a threshold above which they're willing to date for the idea that looks don't matter above the threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:23 AM
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Birds of a feather...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:09 AM
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That's not as provocative, and I never considered money as the specific currency an important aspect of the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:03 AM
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All women can "pull". The question is who can they pull and for what kind of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:59 AM
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No it's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:56 AM
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I don't neccessarily expect that they will, but I certainly think they should, because their conception of a transactional relationship is antiquated and doesn't include the more common kind that exists today.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:53 AM
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It's not really as simple as that. They may desire the relationship more than being alone, but far less than the kind of relationship they really desire. Or what I suspect is more commonly the case with betabuxes, they are unaware that the relationship they are in is not the kind they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:40 AM
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No, this is where the goalposts have always been for me. Other people have their goalposts in a different position, but that's exactly my point. They have theirs in a stupid position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:32 AM
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It is greater proof that she finds you sexually attractive, because by taking companionship, resources etc off the table, you have eliminated the other possible explanations for why she's having sex with you. Combine that with the fact that it is much rarer for men to be valued by women for sex than for anything else that men desire to be valued by women for, it makes sense that men would find what you describe more gratifying. They're being validated for the thing they most lack validation for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:28 AM
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So what? Plenty of relationships are not desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:19 AM
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Meanings change. Righteously so in many cases, and particularly in this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:16 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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