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Here's my list of feminists calling for other men to take care of other babies: Since there is absolutely no statement where feminists say this, the statement "feminists want other men to take care of their babies!" is completely unsupported.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 07:36 AM
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Your safe haven law states parents, it does not state only women. Hence, that's just another case where parents can opt out. And if you read the article the Wikipedia cites, it does NOT state all 50, at all. Please provide a citation for that. "Federal and state laws require parents to support their children when the children are in foster care." That is not a valid citation to establish that men are exploited.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 08:03 AM
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The argument is not that the legal status is somehow incorrectly interpreted, but that the legal status ought to be changed. You're mistaking an "ought" for an "is". Correct. You want to be able to leave the woman with 100% of the burden. That shouldn't be allowed. You might as well argue that, say, debtors' prisons or unacceptably high interest rates should never have been outlawed. After all, borrowers knew the risks and agreed to them by taking on the debt, and if they didn't like it they cou…
/r/MensRights11/07/12 02:23 AM
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Please provide a citation that current laws (not overturned by previous laws) in most states give amnesty to women for abandoning their children at hospitals. Please provide a citation that shows the ratio between the number of women who have abandoned their children, and the number of men who were forced into paying for the child while the women was completely relieved of her duties 100%.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 01:52 AM
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The clock starts with the parent-making decision. This is not equitable, regardless of the actions previous to this. Party B (the woman) can never force 100% on the man, though. What you want is for party A to be able to force 100% on the woman.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 01:42 AM
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My statements are about those who wish to change the law to allow men to completely opt out. And leave the woman with 100% responsibility. There's no fairness in that, at all. Women can't leave men with 100% responsibility.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 01:13 AM
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Did you go to a university? The alternative to an abortion would be to carry a child to term. What part of that did you not understand? Yes, a top 10 one for computer science. Either way, the woman is forced to make a decision and is left with a burden: abort or carry to term. He is not fully aware of the consequences until she makes the decisions. Meanwhile, she is fully aware of them ahead of time. He is totally aware that there's a risk involved and that he could be 50% responsible. He knows …
/r/MensRights10/07/12 04:06 PM
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That does not support your claim at all. You're an idiot.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 03:08 PM
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I would say the perpetuation of child support in situations where the one DNA contributor is required to provide assistance for a child they did not agree to having is pretty clear evidence of inequity. Was the man forced into having sex? No, he wasn't. So, you feel it's acceptable for the man to leave the woman with 100% of the responsibility (getting an abortion = action; it's a responsibility) and the man to be left with 0%? Please. The only way to make it fair is 0% - 0%, or 50% - 50%. 0% - …
/r/MensRights10/07/12 02:54 PM
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Yeah. A lot of men and women are. That's why they make birth control. You are the one that thinks because I made a decision to have sex I must have a child because of it. It's cute but immature logic. Sex =/= pregnancy. Birth control does not reduce the risk of pregnancy down to 0, just as maintenance and inspections do not reduce the risk of a plane crash down to 0. Which is a helluva lot better than the alternative. That doesn't make sense, at all. Did you go to a 3rd tier university or someth…
/r/MensRights10/07/12 08:20 AM
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Then she's a dead beat mom. That doesn't make the man any less than 100% responsible once the mom is out of the picture. The mom is legally responsible for 50%... why does that make her a dead beat mom? Are you saying moms should be more than 50% financially responsible for something they are only 50% responsible for? If the woman opts out, both man and women are left with 0% responsibility; the only thing is the woman had the responsibility to perform the action (abortion). If the man is allowe…
/r/MensRights10/07/12 08:09 AM
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You performed an action, and the legal status of such action is well-known and well-established. It's just like when you fly on a plane. You know that rules and regulations are in place to minimize the risk and you accept that risk by agreeing to fly. When you have sex with a woman, you agree to the risks involved. It's that simple.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 07:58 AM
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It's cute that you think I should have to abstain from all sex just to avoid this risk but, honestly, grow up. Well, you're the one who's completely afraid of the consequences. I, as a man, can not force a woman to take on any responsibility for a pregnancy You leave her with 100% of the burden, definitely, if you opt out. If she aborts, she has the burden of getting an abortion. If she keeps the kid, she has 100% financial responsibility, if you "opt out". There's no way for a woman to leave yo…
/r/MensRights10/07/12 07:46 AM
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there is this little thing called a "prison sentence" one receives if they refuse to pay child support. JAIL. Yes, that's the current law. My statements are about those who wish to change the law to allow men to completely opt out. I would also argue that having to have an abortion is far outweighed by being forced to support a child you did not desire. Not at all. The male desired to have sex. He made his choice. When you perform any activity, you readily accept all potential consequences assoc…
/r/MensRights10/07/12 07:33 AM
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Sure there is. "Here's your kid. Bye!" Nope. The woman is responsible 50%, legally. Why should only her decision matter? It's not only her decision. The male makes the decision to have sex with the woman. He's 50% responsible. She gets all of the decision because it's her body, not his.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 07:21 AM
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Most states have amnesty for women abandoning children at hospitals. Please provide a citation that current laws (not overturned by previous laws) in most states give amnesty to women for abandoning their children at hospitals. But even if the woman abandons the child the state will often still go after the father for child support to defray the state's cost of raising the child. Please provide a citation that shows the ratio between the number of women who have abandoned their children, and the…
/r/MensRights10/07/12 06:46 AM
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As it should be. It's her body. It's her choice. It's her responsibility to make a decision for her own body. Just as much as it is for the man to not participate in the act of impregnating her. I could never force a woman to take on any responsibility in a pregnancy. Not 100%. I can't force her to take on any. Not 50/50. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Men are indeed 50% responsible for all pregnancies. She's the one that gets pregnant, you are the one that impregnates.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 06:36 AM
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So while I may not be able to provide a concrete source for your very specific inquiry right this moment, feminist rhetoric tends toward a certain pattern. Again, please provide a citation for your sources. I don't believe for a second that a man should be able to opt out; that leaves the woman with 100% of the burden (abort or have the child). If the woman opts out, the man is left with 0% of the burden; there's no way for a woman to leave a man with 100% of the burden, thus, there should be no…
/r/MensRights10/07/12 05:02 AM
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And that's exactly how feminists want it. Show me that n feminists want other men to be forced into taking care of children that aren't theirs, where n > 10.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 03:42 AM
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The woman doesn't have to be left with 100%. She can abort. Yes, she's left with 100%. Having an abortion is still an action she has to perform; it's an action with a consequence. By definition, that's 100% of the responsibility. The man, if he opts out, has no consequences and no burden.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 03:08 AM
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And that's exactly how feminists want it. Source? I don't see a single feminist calling for other men taking care of other babies, financially.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 02:57 AM
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Men have 100% of the say. If you don't want to accept the risk of going through an abortion, or having a child, don't have sex. Same goes for women. If they don't want to accept the risk of getting an abortion or having a child, don't have sex. If the woman opts out, the man is inherently left with 0% responsibility. If the man opts out, the woman is left with 100% of the responsibility. If the woman opts in, both are left with 50%. Women can never leave men with 100% of the responsibility, but …
/r/MensRights10/07/12 02:46 AM
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Women and men both have the right to vote, and have for 100 years. So, how old are you? Women in the US have not had the right to vote for 100 years. The right to vote was granted to women in 1920 via the 19th amendment. At any rate, that is the root of the feminist movement. The fact that they weren't allowed to vote in this country is one of the key catalysts to starting the feminist movement. You should learn your history. Women were NEVER barred from owning property...just getting loans (tha…
/r/MensRights05/07/12 10:50 PM
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That has no bearing on reality, though, and is just some vehement outcry from a delusional MRA.
/r/MensRights05/07/12 10:30 PM
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No, it's not. The way MRA's interpret the feminist movement is not consistent with reality.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 11:31 PM
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This is stupid. Feminism is to avoid the sexism women faced in this country, from not being to work, vote, go to school, own property, run businesses, the list goes on and on.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 11:20 PM
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Just look at any thread. I'm not the only one who has noticed this. There are thousands of examples of these. Just browse the subreddit.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 10:52 PM
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No, the notion is not that "women have it worse on all issues", the statement is "women have it worse on these issues". These issues being: 1) not being able to vote 2) not being able to own property 3) not being able to run a business 4) not being able to work 5) not being able to go to school 6) being forced into being home mothers 7) not being able to join the military All of those issues are being resolved through feminism. For the longest time in this country, women were forced servants to …
/r/MensRights04/07/12 10:26 PM
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Feminism is strictly equal rights for women. That's the original purpose of the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 10:15 PM
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I see no evidence at all that the feminist movement as a whole is anti-male. Actually, there's zero evidence to support it. Have you seen some of the comments in this subreddit? A significant number of them are "women are whores, women can't take care of kids, bitch, pay your own way, women are liars and cheats!", etc. It's safe to say that MRAs are strictly anti-female. I see no evidence otherwise.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 07:04 PM
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Well, have you seen some of the comments in this subreddit? A significant number of them are "women are whores, women can't take care of kids, bitch, pay your own way, women are liars and cheats!", etc.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 06:54 PM
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I remember that exact study, and it distinctly said "the results are congruent with the fact that women are more likely the primary caregiver, and are more likely to be charged with child neglect even when there are two parents present". That's why you won't actually post the study: it defeats your dogma.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 09:53 PM
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It doesn't discuss outside the prison population, either. Your document clearly states that men rape men more than women rape men, in prison. By far. Much closer to 80-20 than 60-40.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 09:41 PM
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So? The old definition is no more. Show me from an official government study, the number of male rapists vs. female rapists.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 05:02 AM
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That's false. Women are more likely to be the care givers of their kids, so they're more in contact with their kids. And women are more likely to be abusive, they're more likely to be neglectful, not abusive, which is congruent with the fact that they are the primary caregivers. Please link me the actual study where it says women are more abusive to children than are men.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 04:48 AM
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So you are purposely shifting focus away from the perpetrators to the victims.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 02:16 AM
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The problem is that men are the ones committing the vast vast majority of the rapes! If you want to significantly minimize rape, stop men.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 02:05 AM
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That's not what he's saying, at all. He is, in fact, lumping all women together and saying they all act childish. I find that comical, as that men are the ones that commit the vast vast VAST majority of violent crimes, and crimes in general.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 11:42 PM
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No they're not. There's no credible evidence that shows that. The example above isn't domestic violence, so that's not even relevant anyways.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 06:56 AM
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So? It's still men that commit the crime. It's not a woman's fault that the man's anti-evolutionary habits kill other men.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 06:45 AM
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That's funny. He called women "large children" who don't take accountability for their actions. That says nothing about "society", that's calling all women large immature children. That bigotry is, by definition, women hating.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 05:44 AM
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That's funny, considering that MEN commit the vast vast vast majority of violent crimes.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 05:26 AM
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