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| 21 | The Core Insecurity of Women Vs. The Core Insecurity of Men | CMV | gumballmachine122 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 03:54 PM |
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| 0 | How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high?It's not hypocritical. Men and women both dont want a partner who has been fucked many times. If i guy had a high body count but it was all dudes railing him i think many girls would be turned off by that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 10:00 PM |
| 4 | This is the key difference between men and women's thinking that causes conflictThe natural way is the middle ground. We were hunter gatherers for 190,000 of the 200,000 years we've been around. Women were not isolated in some domestic hole for the entire day, they had many roles and responsibilities although not to the level of modern independent boss babes who think they're the exact same as men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 04:12 PM |
| 7 | This is the key difference between men and women's thinking that causes conflict1950s traditionalism was much an unnatural aberration as masculine boss babes in 2023. We evolved as hunter gathers, men did most of certain types of work, but it's not like women just sat around. Women had more power and responsibilities than the 1950s. They were fit and active and not just domestic beings | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Most beauty standards are enforced on women by other womenAll standards for both men and women are reinforced by both sexes, in different ways. We all have a part to play in it. Height in men, masculinity in men, beauty in women, promiscuity in women, etc etc etc Women compete against other women for top men. Men compete against other men for women. This means that literally every single trait that is desired by the opposite sex, you'll have pressures both from that sex as well as competitors among the same sex in relation to that trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 06:35 PM |
| – | Do older woman really think older men date younger woman cause they are easier?It's a biological and innate preference of men for extremely obvious reasons. Insane that it's controversial to say this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?It's more that there isn't an unlimited supply of attractive men to go around. The advice "lower your standards" is about being practical and realistic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 08:16 PM |
| 7 | Is there any benefit to being a traditional woman?Only if it's for a traditional man who takes on the responsibilities associated with it and has proven that he's loyal to you. Even then, it's probably better to mix and match some more modern elements depending on the personalities of the two of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 10:26 PM |
| 3 | Men overly fixated on women's sex lives have other issuesI don't think men or women are solely to blame for the issues with modern dating. It's a cyclical problem. Plenty of men want to be traditional men and plenty of women want to be traditional women. The problem though is that doing so makes you vulnerable and open to being played, as you were. Players turn good women into promiscuous women. Promiscuous women turn good men into players. It's a cycle that goes on forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 10:12 PM |
| – | Men overly fixated on women's sex lives have other issuesBack in the day, it was completely socially acceptable for men to want a low N-count woman and for women to want a tall man Now you have a sizeable group of women saying it's problematic to care about a woman's sexual past This has guys going wait, if you're allowed to complain about men's preferences then shouldnt we also be allowed to complain about yours? (concerning height) You have the cause and effect reversed. I don't think there would be nearly as many guys complaining about heightism if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Women should not get mad at their guy friends for ghosting them after they reject themWomen have always been much more social creatures who care about building their network of friends. This is because they're physically vulnerable and depend much more on the community. The biggest evolutionary challenge for women historically to pass on their genes was survival (since they can easily obtain sex.) The biggest evolutionary challenge for men historically to pass on their genes was getting a women to be willing to have his baby (since men are more physically self-sufficient) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 03:58 PM |
| 16 | The idea that we live in a “hookup culture” and that a significant number of women are having an abundance of casual sex is a myth. Most women have zero interest in casual sex and have a limited number of sexual partners in their lifetime.The problem is society normalize men not comitting, not seeing the friends, the parents, being in « its complicated » relationships, while a couple women patiently waits for them to get out of their « abusive ex-girlfriend depression ». And they keep those women on the side, string them along. Idk, fuckzone for girls is similar to friendzone for guys. The guy was never interested in being in a long-term relationship with her in the first place, just fucking her. Even if we normalized commitment … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as visual as men. It's just that most men don't elicit this type of attractionWomen dont value looks for the same reason that guys do. The issue with a short indian guy is his shortness makes him feel weak and less dominant, the ethnicity (which i dont think is as important as many believe) if it's a problem is because of negative associations with being indian. It's not about the looks themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:03 PM |
| 5 | Why do you think (some) men are becoming attracted to this?In the same way that we're in an odd period of history where many natural gender roles have been replaced with strange liberal ideologies, the idea of women being purely subsmissive, docile, nonviolent creatures comes from a similarly wacky period of history where the pendulum was swung too far to the other direction. We lived as hunter gatherers for the first 190,000 of the 200,000 years that our species has been around. Men had to be tougher and more violent than women, but life was difficult … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 06:27 PM |
| 1 | In what way does having children change the dynamics of a marriage?I'm not a man, and I brought up body count because it really is a massive deal. Of course it's not the end all be all, nothing is, but it's incredibly important and I thought it was worth a comment even though it's already talked about on this sub. I think a lot of people misunderstand what the purpose of being a housewife and cooking/cleaning for your man is. The reason men value these behaviors isnt the monetary/time value of having those tasks done, those are fairly trivial and could simply b… | /r/RedPillWomen | 31/05/23 06:11 PM |
| 0 | In what way does having children change the dynamics of a marriage?It's really not overblown. I've talked to a lot of men about this. You don't realize how much of men not wanting to be more traditional and treating their woman like a princess is because she's slept with too many other men. It limits how much they're willing to sacrifice of themselves | /r/RedPillWomen | 31/05/23 05:19 PM |
| 1 | How to weed out useless datesHow does a man know you're a quality woman? If you're 1 in a 100 do you expect him to just pay for every single one until he finds you. You have to consider it from their perspective. | /r/RedPillWomen | 31/05/23 05:14 PM |
| 3 | How to weed out useless datesSo are women simultaneously the gender that should be treated like a pretty little princess that has things handed to her while simultaneously deserving of equal respect to a man that has to compete and earn everything himself? I think the problem is that there's too many contradicting narratives and very few people have it figured out in a consistent way. | /r/RedPillWomen | 31/05/23 05:08 PM |
| -5 | In what way does having children change the dynamics of a marriage?The sacrifice a woman does for her husband in carrying his children means something imo, does a childfree marriage mean less commitment from either side? I always read about husbands devoting time, money and commitment to their wives because they sacrificed their femininity, body and youth to them. Would a man feel less indebted to or devoted to their wife if they didn't carry their children? Others have answered this question about childbirth directly, so id like to add that bodycount also affe… | /r/RedPillWomen | 31/05/23 05:00 PM |
| 19 | Is it cheap to stop having premarital sex as a high body count woman?Unfortunately this may turn guys away though. not all but many | /r/RedPillWomen | 29/05/23 12:03 AM |
| 1 | If your husband/boyfriend would have oral sex with all of his past exes but would never do it for you even if you enjoy it, would this cause problems in your relationship?Equivalent is more a boyfriend who has given flowers and chocolates and gifts and vacations to another girl but not you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 02:41 PM |
| – | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?I think most guys feel that women require them to bring tangible things to the table. This leads to men going "wait, what does she bring then? cause otherwise this is one-sided and unfair." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 01:51 PM |
| 0 | Girls and guys don't have much difference other than being pressured by gender roles and norms.Yep, men and women tend to be toxic in different ways. Men have an outsized need to outcompete other men (evolved this way cause 1 man can impregnate many women, so men need to be more competitive) Toxic men think they're hot shit, try to dominate others, aggressive, etc The main evolutionary struggle for women was to stay alive, not outcompete others. That's why we have a greater need for attention and to feel special (look at me, i think the community should devote more resources and protectio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Girls and guys don't have much difference other than being pressured by gender roles and norms.Humans have been around for 200,000 years. For the first 190,000 years we lived in groups of 20-150. You needed the intelligence of both men and women to survive in a harsh world. That's why we have the same average IQ. 10,000 years ago, we invented agriculture. The physical strength of men gave them a massive advantage and they leveraged that to oppress women. Before 10,000 years ago, it was obvious that men and women are equally intelligent. It wasn't until around 100 years ago that that truth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Girls and guys don't have much difference other than being pressured by gender roles and norms.Im a girl by the way, just saying that so you know im not misogynistic and talking with you in bad faith I think the main issue here is that "men and women are different" has historically been an argument used to oppress women and justify keeping them locked up in the home. That dark history taints the idea of men and women being different and makes it hard to accept, even though it's true. The science is undeniable though. I linked you that one study but there's countless like it. When i say un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Girls and guys don't have much difference other than being pressured by gender roles and norms.The only difference is that they have genitals and different hormones. Why would we have evolved different hormones in the first place? Why do men have 20 times more testosterone on average than women? There had to have been evolutionary pressure for this difference. Why would this evolutionary pressure not lead our brains to be different as well? This isn't a gotcha by the way. If you respond to this with your thoughts i would like to continue the convo and talk about why we have different horm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Girls and guys don't have much difference other than being pressured by gender roles and norms.Here's some evidence. There's a ton of other studies that say the same, none that are peer reviewed and widely trusted by scientists that say the opposite. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3030621/ I can go into specific genetic behavioral differences if you want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Girls and guys don't have much difference other than being pressured by gender roles and norms.We evolve to maximize our chances for reproduction. Reproduction guides every aspect of our behavior. Take a look at this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3030621/ There's countless studies, it's actually indisputable and not something that's argued at all by scientists. There is zero doubt that there are differences in brain structure between men and women in ways that affect behavior. It doesnt mean that we should discriminate against women or anything. Women were respected for th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Girls and guys don't have much difference other than being pressured by gender roles and norms.Modern humans have been around for 200,000 years. Until 60 years ago the cost for a man to have sex was the 2 calories it takes to produce sperm. For women it's 9 months of pregnancy, huge amounts of vulnerability, and potential death during childbirth. You don't think this guided our evolution, mate selection criteria, and strategies for life in any way or form? There's massive amounts of undeniable scientific evidence that proves that men and women aren't the same. It's just matter of time unt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 09:47 PM |
| 2 | The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned womenMen will fuck anything. You really need to understand how men see sex, the standards are INCREDIBLY low. Men need absolutely zero emotional connection with a woman or be impressed by her in any way to have sex with her. Guys could fuck a girl that gets abducted by an alien the next day and they wont care | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 09:33 PM |
| 7 | The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned womenMight sound harsh but it's the truth. In the same way that some loser men are good for nothing and no woman wants them, some women are losers and no man wants them (other than for sex, cause guys will fuck anything) It's not hateful to acknowledge the first so what's wrong with the latter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 09:31 PM |
| 11 | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.Men innately delight in speaking their minds and sharing their opinions to everyone, sometimes to a fault. That's why all the "edgy" people are usually guys. Guys love spouting their opinions. This is not socialized. In fact trying to socialize guys to not speak their mind often produces a counterreaction where they're edgy and offensive just cause theyre annoyed at attempts to influence them. This is actually what a lot of right wing extremism is about, it's often just a reaction to mainstream … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 07:23 PM |
| 6 | What’s worse: being an overweight woman or a broke man?There's two variables though, the difficulty and an individual's willpower. Maybe it's not that hard, people are simply lazy and it's their fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 03:16 PM |
| 0 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentI think a lot of men would be willing to relax these standards if women were willing to relax theirs. Nobody shames women for caring about height and many masculine characteristics but guys aren't allowed to care about promiscuity and other things that they're hardwired to care about It's a double standard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 11:25 PM |
| 5 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentWomen are attracted to competent men. This is true for every culture on the planet. If you go to some isolated tribe in the amazon you're going to find that the women want a guy taller than them while the men still don't care about height. You'll find that jenny who's considered pretty in michigan will still be considered good looking to the tribe. Where does this come from? There is absolutely some biological programming at play | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 11:23 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on the research consensus being that women initiate domestic violence significantly more than menYou often hear that men should support feminism cause feminism helps men too! I believe the reverse is true, that more women supporting mens issues would actually help women. A lot of sexist guys (not justifying it) are that way because they're jaded and bitter because of double standards. If more than a tiny % of feminists actually made an effort to understand mens' issues I bet a lot more men would care about feminism in return. It feels like theres no reciprocation in the mainstream culture r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 12:16 AM |
| 16 | What are your thoughts on the research consensus being that women initiate domestic violence significantly more than menThing is that if a small dude hits a large guy and gets severely hurt, everyone pretty much agrees that was on him. "He's small so go easy on him" is not a rule any observer would think, man or woman. Women being weaker than men isn't the only reason for the double standard, it's also purely because they're women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 10:21 PM |
| 16 | What are your thoughts on the research consensus being that women initiate domestic violence significantly more than menI've seen many feminists criticize the question "so are we allowed to hit women back?" and dismissing it as men having a desire to brutalize women or something. No, it's because guys are raised understanding that if they lay a finger on another man, it's fair game if they strike back. Even if the other guy is much bigger than them. Yet women are allowed to hit men and the consequences are so much smaller. If men and women are peers and equals, then we can't have this double standard. Someone tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 07:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorThis is honestly the source of most political disagreement, especially when it comes to the gender wars. It's very hard to understand what's going on in each other's mind and why they think the way they do. It usually gets chalked up to malice or misogyny or misandry when their opinion really isn't all that problematic if you understood where they're coming from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 05:07 PM |
| – | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorI've seen some men say that this is actually the reason why they care about bodycount. Not really out of some prudish "she's a used up item" sense, but the idea that you're committing and taking on the responsibility of protecting and providing for someone who has given away an intimate part of themselves to many people for free. Makes them feel like a sucker. Do any men relate to this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 03:09 PM |
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