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| 2 | Q4All: Would men rather be wanted or needed?I think there is a dichotomy here about what is a want vs what is a need. Those are subjective to different people to an extent. I personally would want a woman who sees sex as a need and desires that need to be consistently met through me, who values masculine guidance, and who has the ability to be independent, but works on her ability to be a helper, preparing herself to eventually be interdependent. It’s not about being wanted vs needed If the woman isn’t sexually liberated yet, while not be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/20 02:06 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I dont quite understand. And for me, I would rather have sex where I am already invested than find a new partner. I can and have, but I prefer to be where I am because I choose to be there for a reason. I just like to be treated more considerately. And having sex for power can be a pleasurable substitute for intimacy at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 05:18 PM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I don’t believe in obligatory monogamy so it is a precursor to one without setting a price dent that sleeping with others will be expected in a relationship. And for me, the difference is that in an open relationship, I have to be and the women will take priority over all others even if we sleep with others, for a FWB, if a woman cancels on me for a guy she is dating more seriously, she can even tell me and I won’t be upset as long as she reschedules at her nearest convenience. In an open relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 05:14 PM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I don’t understand this message | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 05:10 PM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I am consistent regardless of relationship status, and Long term monogamous relationships in this society come with expectations that can be unrealistic if you want honesty, so I adapted. Still working out the kinks. I can engage in fully casual situations. I have and probably will in the future, but my goal is predicated in the idea of integrating the sexual shadow into ideas of initial attraction and interest. No ideology is without faults, so when I hit snags, I question myself and system to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 12:05 PM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I have success with my POV, and seek to spread my ideology, but when it isn’t understood ahead of time, biases, like yours, seek to discredit it before seeking to understand it and I already skeptical content about it and plan to write. A book, but because I am a person who likes to grow, i believe that iron sharpens iron, so having answers to opposing views helps me in the case that someone disagrees. And I don’t agree that your POV is “proven” if it doesn’t give me the holistic outcome that I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 12:01 PM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I e had situations where I have coached several women from mediocre blowjobs to being pro level. I just prefer honesty and communication, I genuinely enjoy improving systems. It’s my nature. If it doesn’t work with a woman I take that loss, but I genuinely enjoy that and the process of growth. I, just looking for a woman who is willing to learn and grow and I am a person willing to do the same. If she is not, me bringing it up will sort out who is who, then I know, but I am a coach at heart, I’v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 11:09 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I only believe in going on dates and spending time with women nonsexually if I genuinely feel like it will be an experience that is enjoyable for that specific purpose and if we’ve already established sexual chemistry. If you already have an abundance mindset about sexuality, then find a man in your circle who shows some attraction—like loving or care reacting your pics on Facebook or your stories then just hitting him up and asking if he would like to FWB and asking if you can suck his dick. He… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 11:02 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Not always, but I value my own character to the point that I’m not willing to lie to a woman for any reason. FWB is a precursor to a relationship for me, so in case it could go that route, I wouldn’t want anything to predicated on something that isn’t true. My character is more important to me than trying to protect myself from being hurt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 10:31 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Same. But the faulty part about narratives about consent culture is one of those things that makes people who do not understand my POV and just get something I say without context categorize some of my thought process as pressure or coercion when the context of the relationship is sexual to begin. That can be frustrating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 10:28 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.For me, I like to know the reason so that if it is an actual issue that I can (and am willing to fix), that I will so that the next situation won’t have the same issue. I try to give that to women if I can. If it’s something I’m not willing to work on, I chalk it up to simply incompatibility. I like to grow as a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 10:25 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I consider myself a mystic Christian after some study of the Bible, I agree With a lot of atheistic argument points. & the reason I go sex first is because one thing I’ve realized about a lot of women I tried to build rapport with first was that when I tried to go the friend route first and eventually brought sex up later, they would act like they didn’t know I was interested even though I thought I made it clear and after I learned some game, those same women would approach me purely sexually t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 10:22 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.That last duck before ghosting usually either reinvigorates the sexual relationship or gives me the ability to have a justification for forgiving the infractions against the agreements that weren’t followed through with and have the ability to have a platonic friendship when the sexual one ends. I am not a flaky nor a person who likes to ghost or cut people off without communicating and with the level of honesty I have upfront, I like to be honest about the reason because if there are excuses ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 10:04 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Was on a break at a work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 09:48 AM |
| 2 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Thanks, I’ll take that advice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 09:47 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I like that. I like to have a rotation based on work schedules and life and when things fall through I am understanding. I think some people look at this post and think I’m not reasonable, but honestly, I am. I just try to be conscious of when games are being played and when they don’t own up to it, I counter, but the fact that games are played at all kill my desire to be anything other than sexual partners. I don’t expect a woman to be at my every beck and call. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 09:39 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Idk but I’ve encountered it so much that I have just gotten used to it and honestly, idk what else to do atm. I know I have needs so I just take advantage of those situations in ways they don’t expect of me because I come off as a nice guy, but I’m not THAT nice when push comes to shove. It can be fun, but I have been hurt, honestly. I don’t jump into relationships, quickly, so while I’ve mostly avoided being hurt in relationships, friendship hurt can hit pretty close to home too, but thank you.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 09:37 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.In my Fwb situations, it depends on how often we see one another, which is part of the consistency aspect. If we have a schedule that we have sex on and let’s say they come over for the weekend, then we don’t have to have sex the entire time. I cook, I entertain, but if we see each other on a rare occasion, I’m not trying to see them unless we are having sex. I have had on & off FWB for years at a time and part of the plus is being open and honest about other partners and I even don’t hold it ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 09:25 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I 100% agree. I’ve encountered women who took advantage of the fact that I had platonic love for them to treat me like a casual fling. I’ve gotten to the point where I have them explain to me what they think it means and try to avoid using that term these days because most women see FWB as “no accountability”. I simply don’t agree with that logic. I have the same love for my FWBs thag I have for platonic male friends with the added bonus of a beautiful woman I have sex with, so inconsistency can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 09:17 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I don’t respect that point of view because I am very upfront and don’t claim or call a woman a friend or anyone else a friend unless I meant it. I set my boundaries and expectations clearly and give a woman an opportunity to agree or disagree before we ever have sex, so if she agrees to a FWB situation, then if she doesn’t follow through, I cut her off and if she changes her mind and wants reengage it had to be on my time. I don’t see a woman’s time nor sexuality as more inherently important tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 08:55 AM |
| 2 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.No, I don’t sugar coat anything with women. For me, FWB means that I also desire to develop a legitimate friendship. Me and all of my male and platonic friends understand this concept called PP. I call it pussy priority and for female friends I call it penis priority. When a sexual encounter is on the table, that takes priority over spending platonic time with someone, but a FWB takes precendent over a hook up or a platonic fling. I believe in approaching women from a biology-first perspective, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 08:48 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Lying about the reason is definitely not polite. I don’t see dishonesty as politeness. I see that kind of “politeness” as a weapon for later. That’s like a woman faking every orgasm and telling that to her friends behind her back, then yelling it at you when y’all have an argument & if the reason that you give is bullshit and you don’t fully pull the plug, the other person any surprise you and have a solution for that. If they have a solution for that, they may have had a solution for the actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:47 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Ghosting, lying about the cause of the end of the relationship to prevent a grown person from feeling “pressure”, and passive aggressive behavior stemming from resentment due to feeling sexually neglected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:41 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I think that that is very humane. I like to know. The more clear the rejection, the easier I can move on. Men who attack women for saying no messed it up for everyone because women who want to waste time and manipulate can (in the eyes of the law) blend in with the women who are genuinely afraid to say no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:40 AM |
| 2 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I am a product of the lack of compromise. I used to not expect sex and just date women to do it or try to build rapport with women before bringing sex up, but Th is culture tells men how to approach and cater women then tells us that we are entitled for having sexual desires, then we turn around and see that the same women were having sex with others that entire time of giving them time and attention and trying to get them “comfortable”. I got to the point where I stopped dating altogether and g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:37 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.We’re all selfish in our own ways, but I just don’t respect the whole ghosting thing unless you express that you’re not going back and forth with someone and then they persist. Other than that, I love to communicate and I’d rather know or say why in most cases and in some of those cases, the issue can be fixed, and in some of those cases, the issue can be fixed sexually, & that’s part of where I have an issue with some of how people see the concept of sexual pressure. If I really am about to lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:32 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.In my experience, I am very upfront about my intentions with every woman I deal with. And if I gave an ultimatum, it was usually the ultimatum itself that sparked the woman’s interest to reinvigorate her desire to have sex with me and we had the best sex we’ve had & in another case, I was going to cut a woman off because she was having a good girl act with me then after cuddling up with and teasing me for an entire weekend, while claiming to love me, while I was fully respecting that she wasn’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:29 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Because I value my word and if I tell a person I value them, I think they are worth more than being ghosted or broken up with without knowing why. For me, I’ve experienced both and they’re both hurtful and confusing. I’d much rather a person give me their conditions and I take it or leave it. I’ve experienced that too. Not much because those were situations where the women expected more than we agreed to, so I walked away, but in these situations, I just expect what they agreed to or I don’t wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:18 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.So you think it is better to lie about why you are leaving? Ghost them when they may be emotionally invested? Or subject yourself to feeling neglected and your time being disrespected? Or would you rather just cheat and not tell them? People really undermine the value of sex and vilify higher libido partners, and how often people can and will be somewhat transactional about sexuality, then give the other party impunity for their selfish and sometimes purposefully manipulative desires to be in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:11 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I was on a break and wrote it quick. But if someone agrees to be in a sexual situation with you, and flakes or inconveniences you without a warning or you are in a dead bedroom situation, where because you have been sexually neglected, you are about to leave the situation, I don’t see any issue with sexual acts as an apology for being sexually inconsistent in a way that disallows you to sleep with someone else—I.e. a FWB no call/no showing an encounter without rescheduling so you don’t have the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:04 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I take friendships very seriously—more serious than some people take relationships and I don’t determine my character or how much I hold other people to their word based on the status of a relationship. My word is my word. And if clearly saying they aren’t interested happens, of course the situation ends, but some people longer and come up w it h excuse after excuse and I like to believe my friends instead of assuming they are lying until I have proof. That last challenge and it being understood… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:04 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.I was on a break and wrote it quick. But if someone agrees to be in a sexual situation with you, and flakes or inconveniences you without a warning or you are in a dead bedroom situation, where because you have been sexually neglected, you are about to leave the situation, I don’t see any issue with sexual acts as an apology for being sexually inconsistent in a way that disallows you to sleep with someone else—I.e. a FWB no call/no showing an encounter without rescheduling so you don’t have the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 05:59 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.The issue for me in the situations have been that I have dealt with a number of FWB who after I pleasured them a certain amount during sex, they became afraid of falling in love and instead of communicating that, and maintaining the friendship, they would begin to start treating me like a casual fling on their own time, disrespecting mine. So I had to develop boundaries to deal with the inconsistency. It’s an outside boundary. In whatever way you disrespected my time or boundaries, that’s how yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 05:53 AM |
| 1 | A sexual ultimatum for inconveniencing a FWB (by flaking w/o a heads up) or sexually neglecting in an LTR (like DB or claiming to be celibate and cheating) is more humane than ghosting, breaking up w/o a reason, or passive aggression (due to resentment) and shouldn’t be viewed as coercion.Yes, inconveniencing a FWB. For me FWB implies consistency and I make the expressly clear with any women I deal with. I take friendship seriously. I give a certain level of BOTD to them that I don’t give to a random partner. I don’t flake on my friends— male nor females and I make it clear that I don’t like that kind of thing. And when it happens to me, I understand that things happen, but express my boundaries. I believe that there are inward and outward boundaries. Flaking on a sexual encounte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 05:49 AM |
| 1 | "Reformed sluts" are probably among the worst types to date.I know some reformed sluts who tried to use me as the first dummy, and I knew of their pasts before they tired to tell me or lie to me, but they still attempted to make me work or wait for sex. I turned them down and one is still mad at me about it because I told her, “If the thought of me fucking you doesn’t get your pussy wet, I’m good tbh.” I very much dislike this type of woman and being a guy who has had some suppressed sexual energy, they try to spot me out. The sad part is that if they le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 09:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you care less about a woman's N-count if you knew you were getting her sexual best?If I were to claim her as my significant other, if by some chance I could actually know I was her best (or at least that sexual quality was part of her criteria), that I was getting her best (like no trains), that none of the guys were my friends, and that she didn’t have kids or STIs, and that she doesn’t have severely untreated mental disorders and characters flaws like being a habitual cheater, It wouldn’t bother me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/19 08:41 AM |
| 1 | [Discussion] How true is the phrase "for a relationship to work, the man has to love the woman more"?I am a man and I share the same mindsets and desires, honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/19 05:28 AM |
| 1 | While the average pussy is more VALUABLE than the average dick, a good dick is far more POWERFUL than most pussies.Yes, but I agree. I think this kinda goes somewhat across the board on men and women's issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/19 05:28 AM |
| 1 | While the average pussy is more VALUABLE than the average dick, a good dick is far more POWERFUL than most pussies.I was at work and didn't have time to check. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/19 02:01 AM |
| 1 | While the average pussy is more VALUABLE than the average dick, a good dick is far more POWERFUL than most pussies.Female attractiveness is much more important to erections than orgasms. I think his point still stands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 05:31 PM |
| 0 | While the average pussy is more VALUABLE than the average dick, a good dick is far more POWERFUL than most pussies.If you don't know what it is, maybe look it up. And this post really isn't so much about cheating. Let me check if I put cheating in my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 05:28 PM |
| 1 | While the average pussy is more VALUABLE than the average dick, a good dick is far more POWERFUL than most pussies.That was part of my point... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 05:27 PM |
| -1 | While the average pussy is more VALUABLE than the average dick, a good dick is far more POWERFUL than most pussies.It's similar to how women are given inherent value in society, but men have the higher positions of power. It plays itself out on the sexual front as well, from my observations. Men who possess sexual charisma and skill have more influence over women than women have over men. And I believe that it is more about sexual skill and charisma than with women, because a woman manipulates a man more with his own perceived sexual skill than hers. Most vaginas can make most dicks cum so it is not somethin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 08:35 AM |
| 1 | While the average pussy is more VALUABLE than the average dick, a good dick is far more POWERFUL than most pussies.Chad usually implies looking good and being in shape, good dick is moreso about sexual charisma and/or application sexual skill/talent. A man does not have to be Chad necessarily to be that. Many women are not all that into what men stereotypically think Chad is. We think this about Chad because we aren't attracted to men and assume that what we think is the apex of men is what women want. Just like women assume we like certain things (or pretend they won't care what we like), when we like other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 08:31 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I have somewhat of a philosohy that a certain kind of FWB can really be the best tpe of relationship outside of raising a family. Genuine friend love, sex, verbal communication, shared interests and humor, hanging out but without the shit tests and judging for sexual pasts, and posturing for power, and other things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 09:37 AM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I am aware that women tend to be better at compartmentalizing sex partners due to the need to. I can have emotions involved and admire a woman and I will still never want a relationship with her. I dont need to compartmentalize unless she wants to be just fuck buddies. And i wouldnt mind. I feel like FWBs are great for having the utmost honesty, but I put a big emphasis on the F in FWB. Friendship meets my need for emotional connection for the most part and sex meets the rest of them. And that o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 09:21 AM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?The question is more about making a guy wait who does not want to, not a mutual agreement to wait, but a shying away from sex or hard cut time set. And most of my sex has been in several longterm FWB situations abd a relationshil. I have had but not a lot of flings or casual sex. I don't really care for the concept of it and how it works. I can conceive that women want to have sex just for lust. I also understand a sexual desire from the heart. IWhat I have a hard time understanding is that a wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 08:01 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?This is mostly already understood. I agree with both this and the other side of it, but I do think that women undersell the lack of attraction part. And I think attraction is much more than just looks. The question is about what women have to offer the men that wait that they do not give the men who don't if they supposedly make men wait because they see him as a viable romantic partner. And if these are the men they end up in relationships with, why would a man settle to know he is being settle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 06:30 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Your response was that you didn't have to respond. No shit sherlock. You added nothing of value to the conversation. Just the pretense of your existence. Reminds me of something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 06:26 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I don't think any conclusions I have had have been natural. All have been influenced by one school of thought or another and I think that both have their pitfalls. The blue oil gives a sense of pride in working towards it and earning a woman's trust, but is blind to female sexual nature and her autonomous sex drive. She may never intend on having sex and is just stringing him along. The redpill is blind to the fact that many women do not care for casual sex and may genuinely want to avoid having… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 06:20 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Call it what you want. Many people have insecurities so it is a relevant question. And women who would not answer a question if they felt it was from insecurity wouldn't be worth my time, honestly. Some women lack empathy and basic decency. I ask questions that I have and look for answers. I see the attempts to troll and deflect moreso as something hitting their insecurities, rather than my own. A lot of the questions i ask arent about my own experiences but things i have seen and and trying to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 06:12 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Do you think guys who know you sleep with guys like that would feel that the challenge is an honor? Idk. Maybe if they see you out of their league, which leads to other issues. And sex without head sounds trash IMO. Idrek how to go about that. It is a really weird thing to value blowjobs over PIV as intimacy. I think it can be a cultural thing, though. BUT it is a boundary of separation between men that wait and don't so there is that. You actually answered the question. Thank you. Lol A lot of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 06:04 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:53 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I agree that this is somewhat the case for many women, but I have seen this backfire many many times. And I think you are giving women too much credit for ability to moderate emotions with sexual partners or control sexual urges. I do think that there is a certain ratio of comfort to attraction that women go buy when attracted to a man. Comfort can be comfort through built rapport or comfort through knowing there will be no future. Sometimes the comfort of the former will never surpass the latte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:51 AM |
| 3 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Exactly my point. I think the entitlement arguemtn is mostly misused and a dead horse, but pretty much completely agree. This question has two main purposes. 1. To find a reason for a man who is aware of female sexual nature to be okay with or find value in waiting for a woman who may have already thrown it out like free samples at Costco. Self-reflection that maybe some women may look back and see the unfairness and pick which one they want to be or find a way to be more fair. It just seems lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:38 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I am adding FWBs and Dickmatising men into the category of non committed sex partners and the benefits that they receive appear to outweigh the benefits that men who work/wait for sex get in comparison of their ratio of investment vs return. I am trying to find something that these men get that the others don't, that makes a man who so aware of the redpill okay with this kind of arrangement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:33 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Oddly enough, many men want to be the dildo guy because women claim to love them and still end up sleeping with the dildo guy. If it is powerful enough to compromise integrity, then it's not trivial, but if that same woman would not compromise integrity to sleep with the guy she claims to love, I see that more as a lack of pure sexual desire than strong willpower. I think some women under play the power of the dildo guy, in fear and men over hype it, in fear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:27 AM |
| 0 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Always appreciate your insight. I agree a man does not waiting for a reasonable amount of time. I think the fear comes from women who make a by wait because she doesn't really like him or at least is not that sexually attracted and can thus feign the appearance of having a lot of self control. So, it feels easier and is more pleasurable to be the object of that lack of self control than to be the test dummy for her new found self worth. That hurts the man's self esteem, because he feels he is me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:23 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Seen too much AF/BB stuff I do think that your case is also a possibility for many women, but it does seem backwards to me and like punishing good behavior. I do find it hard to believe that there isnt just less sexual tension withen who you find to be possible sexual mates than men you just have sex with. I think it's disingenuous to sy that is never the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:10 AM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?This question has a different premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:05 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I say that it I'd hard to fake interest after getting what you want. Give what they want and watch how they react. If their reaction is to press forward and engage, I see that as good and if their reaction is to stay put or withdraw, they are not for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:02 AM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I was being somewhat sarcastic. Many women feel entitled to a man trying to amuse and seduce them, but call men entitled when they try to work for sex, when trying to earn something means the opposite of being entitled. If he walked up to you and said have sex with me NOW, that would be entitled. A mam who feels that others have paid less than him to get the same thing feels cheated. And yes, pay is an ugly word to use (although I think sex work is honest), but when sex is being treated as the p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:00 AM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?It's a defense mechanism to avoid creating the image of a Madonna and then having that image tainted in case bits of her past come out later on. Or in case she cheats and has a ONS later on. If I partake in her sexual adventerousness, then I will not feel threatened by stories of it. If I don't bill her as a Madonna, I don't have to worry as much about new info painting her as a whore. The male ego is very hard to separate from emotional investment. Connection can be ego free, but investment not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 04:54 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?😌😌 I know many. But no, not "date" lol. Dickmatisms maybe more prevalent in the black community with our grandiose beliefs about sexuality and adopted beliefs about us being animalistic, past down through slavery. We act it out and I think that leads to a lot of black women being controlled by dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 04:42 AM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Long term is that I do want to be married to one woman, but I want the best chances of that being sustainable and enjoyable. I like the Traditional model, but feel that the dishonest pretenses about sex can be difficult. I feel that I do not want to be a hypocrite and have a woman that I am settling for for security, while testing the waters, looking to fall in love with someone else. I feel if I were a woman that wouldn't be as big of a deal because a man has a longer term of prime fertility ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 04:39 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?That's not who I am speaking of but I am not a big believer in the idea of nonsexual (sexual) women, but it can happen. Perhaps, those women only deal with men who make them feel comfortable and not necessarily for pure arousal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 04:30 AM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I have heard women describe themselves that way. And I think I look at things from a somewhat redpill perspective of not really believing in the not so sexual, moral figure woman. In order to try and destroy the image of the whore, I also had to kill Madonna in my mind. So, while it may seem like a redpill thing, it's also a feminist idea to take that label off of women, but with that came also not giving women credit for virtue. When I hear a woman making a man wait who doesn't want to wait, it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 04:28 AM |
| 1 | (q4all) What is "good sex"?For me, good sex is split into two categories. For me, it can be planned and still be great. When I'm taking slow, deep, forceful strokes and we're sweating all over each other. Staring in eachbothers' eyes, both moaning and groaning and kissing and I feel like she feels like she NEEDS my dick inside her. I have to feel emotionally available to fully enjoy it though. I feel she is responsive and submissive to me being dominant and I am feeling aggressive that day and when she tries to tap out bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 04:09 AM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Not right now. I favor FWB situations right now. I have a few. But I am a little afraid of my own sexual nature, the same as I am suspicious of female sexual nature. I don't want to become a womanizer and then find it difficult to be monogamous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 09:33 PM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I personally never lost interest after sex, but it is common for both men and women. I have a different philosohy. I think that both men and women who withhold what the other sex stereotypically wants don't have much to offer to keep them after they get it, so they lure them into becoming emotional/ego invested. I give attention and validation upfront, so if a woman loses sexual interest in me, afterward, she wasn't for me. And I cut her loose. And if she comes back around she only gets dick fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 09:31 PM |
| 0 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?The question I am asking serves a couple different purposes, but it is aimed towards a particular group of women. I tend to believe that for that group, relationships are built somewhat on a basis of proving/earning things. And I am questioning that criteria and if the reward for what is being earned is worth the work, in comparison to the other part who receive the same prize. IMO. Women who use sex to lure men into commitment usually do not have much to offer to that man, as far as personality… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 09:14 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Yes, I do not care to rack up a high n | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 08:20 PM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I was just using a quick phrase to explain a concept. But what do they see it as, then? And the operative word here is "make" If what is being withheld is sex, or if that is seen as what is the prize here, then by giving the prize to who you deem unworthy, then giving the same prize after more work, with more stipulations seems counterintuitive to me. That brings me back to my original question. What are women offering the men who wait that they are not giving the men who they do not make wait? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 08:19 PM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Look it up. It's a somewhat common topic. And maybe I am like the feminist who says she doesn't like aggressive, masculine guys, but I would not commit to women for that reason, when I would have otherwise. But I feel that just like that is a self protection plan that can backfire against someone like me, who freely gives attention, validation, and love, my knee jerk reaction may possibly cause me to miss out on women who would be good for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 08:10 PM |
| 0 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I think I do have certain mindsets and views of being instinctual that are not all positive. So sorry about that, but I do think that it is a natural correlation that the trade off is if underdeveloped a lack of impulse control, and an emphasis on bodyb first compatibility, which tends to attract some characters. May take time to learn to really vet and sort through. Cerebral works backwards. Usually attract more I don't want to say good, but considerate, people and but there may not always be a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:41 PM |
| 0 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?This is a reasonable answer. It is the same reason that redpill guys refuse to wait, or just sleep with others. It's a defense mechanism. It's a defense mechanism to assume that AWALT and have sex with some guys easy and others, not, because the inverse is to feel accomplished for working and building a connection to sleep with a woman to find out Katee that she didn't require that of others. Time doesn't necessarily mean connection, but I will say that the worst predators are the ones that give… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:35 PM |
| 3 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?It's a general question. And I am not saying they have to prove anything. I want to personally know. And i woukd want those women to self-reflect. The answer to this question may play a big part in how dating goes in decades to come. The somewhat traditional form works best at building civilizations, but it is somewhat outdated. Society may implode due to a lack of nuclear homes. Maybe this is a virtue signal, but it's an open one to whomever. I think fairness is important. Just like a man may h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:31 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I like to think.I like to look at the thing behind the thing. The motivations and outcomes. And I am not currently in this situation, but with the mindsets Ive had, I would not allow myself to be there. And it is possible a women who would he good for me may be there, but my pride and ego may say fuck that. So I need other perspectives. Thanks for yours. I am trying to find a logical reason to give this kind of woman a chance and not just assume she doesn't find me sexually attractive enough. An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:19 PM |
| 0 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?You sound entitled, what does what women want have to do with what men think? But, no, seriously, I like to look at the possibilities. She may he doing the same thing in her own way. Minimizing the chances of getting hurt, by only sleeping with men she does not see as viable long term partners quickly. What I question are the premises of rewarding bad behavior, the possibility that she just does not see the guy she makes wait as high value purely sexually, (which may lead to a dead bedroom) and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:13 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Oh yeah, this question is moreso for women who do both. Have casual sex and make men wait for sex,the reasoning behind it and maybe some self reflection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:06 PM |
| 0 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Yeah, that's fine too. The energy I exude usually attracts very trust worthy, quality, women; however, I am in the process of integrating more into my own instinctual self, because I feel it may be important in not just this but other areas of my life. And don't get me wrong, I am very sexual person and I can be very bold and forward, but i have a very strong emphasis on verbal communication. Like, I like to get feedback with women the day after sex and I take mental note and talk about things w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:03 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I can see it that way if a woman gives off the impression she needs emotional connection to be sexually attracted. This will signal a man to get closer, wanting to have sex, when it is not necessary. This is also part of what I think leads to deabedrooms. Maybe women are not as purely sexually attracted to that man and needs to have an emotional connection to feel aroused. Any time something is off in the relationship, it causes a lapse in libido while for many women who have a strong, purely se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:54 PM |
| 3 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?This is a possibility. No guy wants to be the guy that a woman wants to "get wise" with. She may be more swxuslly reserved and more strict and what not. I personally do not really date, but I do have sex, and when I did date, I didn't try to sleep with women the first night for my own comfort. What I'm asking and arguing is from the redpill perspective that the sooner she sleeps with a man and the more she opens up sexually, the higher value she views that man. If she all of a sudden has self co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:49 PM |
| 3 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Yes, because I don't have anything against either waiting or sleeping with someone right away, but the people who do both tend to "punish good behavior" and I think I have seen it and hears of it a good number of times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:35 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I agree. That brings up the other issue. I know myself. I have relatively good experiences sexually, but I start my sexual confidence over with each woman and like to build up rapport over time (sexually), so I am a charisma grower. I am certain women have waited longer than they would have with me so I'd be comfortable. I am weird, in that I keep my sexual energy to myself until I am given sometype of verbal or written consent that she wants to be sexual with me. This has hurt me with instinctu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:33 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Perhaps. The main question is for women, though. It's somewhat of a self-reflective question but I do genuinely desire to hear the answers. And with redpill awareness, the average man now knows that women have autonomous sex drives and that many sleep with men quickly, so many have dropped the not committing to a woman who has sex soon schtick. We let go of it because that is no longer a prize to work for sex. Knowing women have autonomous sex drives makes the prize more so about quality of sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:29 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Hey, Becky! I always enjoy your perspectives on PPD. And if that is really how it works for you, then I doubt that most men, including redpill men would really mind waiting to get to know one another. The problem is manipulation, false advertisement, and what a person may feel that the investment vs return means about their own perceived value. And what do women have to offer men who they make wait vs men who they have sex with immediately ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:19 PM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I agree ftmp. I do not trust women who appear too in control of their sexual appetites, but I also do not trust women who cannot control their urges and maintain boundaries. The former is either transactionally trying to choose a BB or she is genuinely sexually repressed and when her nature is revealed to herself, she may just go wild in the middle of a marriage. The latter may be more inclined to just cheat or be easily manipulated by sexual hypergamy and is more of an immediate threat. If wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:15 PM |
| -2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?You don't understand the concept of investment vs return in the context of what I am talking about if this is really your POV. You can say it is about you and it is without question and can't be reasoned, but there are reasons behind most things. If you make everyone wait, then you are viewed as a prize. If you make only men you want to date wait, you appear as manipulative unless you have something to offer them (that a man actually wants) that the men who you began by having causal sex with ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:08 PM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?You don't understand the concept of investment vs return in the context of what I am talking about if this is really your POV. You can say it is about you and it is without question and can't be reasoned, but there are reasons behind most things. If you make everyone wait, then you spear as a prize. If you make only men you want to date wait, you appear as manipulative and like you're hiding your true sexual nature- virtue signaling with things that are not true. The turn it around is just a sha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:05 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?See, this is the mindset I was thinking of in the post. I personally see paying for what another guy got for free as a bad investment and would feel somewhat slighted or offended (if I thought you made everyone wait) as if you see me as having lesser purely sexual value. If you made everyone wait, then you may be seen as a prize; otherwise, it has a manipulative feel to it that is a turn off. I am trying to see the other perspective, but that is how I see it. I don't understand people punishing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:00 PM |
| -1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?See, I have no problem with promiscuity if it is to test compatibility with a possible partner. I admire that strategy and do not feel threatened by the N of a woman who makes that clear. Women who have no control over their sexual urges or no ability to maintain boundaries or uphold their morals are a different story. Could a lower N. Shit, she could even be a virgin and J wouldn't trust her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:54 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?Lol. No, none of that. Redpill aware just means I have been informed and somewhat read on the topic of female sexual nature. What I do with that information or whether or not I fully believe it is neither here nor there. But I know about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:51 PM |
| 2 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I think there are also women who do not necessarily subscribe directly to these views but are an offshoot of if they want a relationship, they make the guy wait, but if they don't they just have sex with him. This is somewhat confusing to me. I think I see things the opposite and a lot for redpill busy do, as well, and assume that if she has too much control over her sexual desires, in reference to me, then I am not high enoigh value to her for her to he a long term who treats me how I want to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:49 PM |
| 0 | What do you have to offer to men who you deem must wait for sex versus men that you jabe sex with right away?I am open to changing my views if one can lead to better results or a happier future. My natural conclusion is more so reactionary and a defense mechanism for something that may or may not be an issue with a given woman. And I haven't actually had women make me wait, but I have seen it. This is partly due to the fact that I do not generally desire to sleep with a woman I do not know. So if it's true of me, I'd think it may be true of some women as well. Also, while I do think that having a minds… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:44 PM |
| 1 | I want to hear your thoughts on the concept of the joy of giving or responsibility- as something that brings happiness in and of itself.That's interesting. I often hear people speak down on some traditional things in a trend kind of way, but the people who follow the beaten path tend to encounter both less highs and lows and some are very fulfilled in their traditional roles. I see the allure of both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:33 PM |
| 1 | I want to hear your thoughts on the concept of the joy of giving or responsibility- as something that brings happiness in and of itself.Fair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:32 PM |
| 1 | I want to hear your thoughts on the concept of the joy of giving or responsibility- as something that brings happiness in and of itself.I personally don't think there is anything wrong with doing something and desiring willing reciprocation, but it is true that one can't coerce love & attraction. If it's not there, it's not there. And beware of someone who would let you think that you can buy it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:31 PM |
| 2 | I want to hear your thoughts on the concept of the joy of giving or responsibility- as something that brings happiness in and of itself.This makes great sense. With added risk and responsibility comes authority. This is something that feminist don't understand, when bashing patriarchy, they were given inherent value and treated as such, but being subservient was their payment for being protected and provided for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:27 PM |
| 1 | I want to hear your thoughts on the concept of the joy of giving or responsibility- as something that brings happiness in and of itself.This. My father and Godfather an Uncle were all bachelors and chads for a long time. My uncle just got married and had his first child at 40. My father is 45 and has never been married. My godfather is 49 and has never been married. They all desire to have families and have been used for sex by women. I have been used for sex as well, but I am not nearly as a hit with the ladies as they were/are. My fears lie more on the other side and they commend me for not being out there, but there is a bala… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?I had figured this out and had a great relationship because of it, but I began to feel that not learning to be impulsive may have been (in someways) maybe repressing my masculinity/animal instincts. So I am in between happy and feeling like I skipped a part of development that is crucial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/19 02:42 PM |
| 1 | (Discussion) How true is the phrase "men will treat you as bad as you let them"?Yeah, that's what I want to avoid. To me, the difference between a woman who wants an actual male friend vs an orbiter is a woman who will.in some way assist in your sex life- through either having sex with you, referring at least semi attractive friends, or giving real advice on what women like and not giving false hope. This is if she knows you're a attracted from the beginning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/19 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?No, i'm pretty sure it would have to be my mindset to project. I just kinda look at the variables and look at what appears to be what correlates with the changes I observe. What it appears to me with a lot for women is being attracted to uncertainty. I can logically and reasonably handle most things, but uncertainty is what makes me feel insecure in a situation. I don't like questioning where I stand with people, especially if they do not communicate their desires or boundaries or behave inconsi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/19 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?I think you are conflating feeling insecure with feeling disinterest. If it is insecurity, then it is met with security, which is found in stability and validation. Losing interest is more common when someone finds someone predictable. Maybe I am wrong, but that's how I see it. Why else would becoming inconsistent regain attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?Interesting perspective. Perhaps, I just see it different. this is a possibility though. But I take her actions more so as manipulative, when I am someone who does not try to take advantage and I try to be open and honest in my intentions and communication and consistent with my actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 08:26 PM |
| 2 | (Discussion) How true is the phrase "men will treat you as bad as you let them"?I am the opposite. I treat women as well as I can without it appearing that they start to lose interest because of it. I desire to treat women nice, but when they act as if it depreciates my value by treating them like I value them, I gradually pull back until it either ends or they regain interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 07:17 AM |
| 2 | What do people mean by "entitled?"Good break down. I’ve never heard it broken down like this before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/19 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?I said establish or maintain. Guys usually need some masculine frame to establish attraction and maintain it long enough to at least establish an emotional connection and emotional connection only works as long as the two people stay on the same page. When they become a little bit out of sync, then the attractiveness, pure sexual chemistry, and masculine frame come back more strongly into play as far as how important they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?They’re not the same but both have similar expectations of “masculine” frame to establish or maintain attraction. Or they may be expected that they are not necessary but creep in at different times. I know that FWB, Casual dating, and relationships are not the same, but when what makes them different is added to the equation they kind of lump together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?I highly doubt that. I'm a consistent guy. I don't like to make women work for my attention. I feel it's manipulative. I give it and see if they reciprocate and maintain or increase in attraction to me. If they decrease, I feel that their mindset is toxic (imo). J appreciate this same approach that some women take by having sex with men they are attrzcre to and seeing if they still maintain interest. The thing is that I'm already having sex with her, and she comes to me for sex. I initiated ourr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?I highly doubt that in this situation. Highly. I think she has sex with me because I am high reward vs risk sex. I took her virginity and it isn't adding to her N. I just miss the days when we could communicate regularly and just chat. It was actually like this when we were in each other's friend zones and during our first stretch of hvajnf sex with each other. This time is different, though. Although we both limited communication when we were in relationships, though. No need to test temptation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?Doesn't make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?No, in my experience of what I have seen, it is the opposite. Most women pull away when im consistent and push forward when I start to not care or display ahole tendencies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?It has mostly worked out well for me and my original intentions with her were FWB tbh. So sex couldn't ruin it because sex was always in my intentions and view of her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?The name of the "game" is be less emotionally invested, causing the other person to chase you and value you more. I personally like to believe that a healthy person is attracted to effort and not attracted to a lack of. It gives me hope that I don't have to push/pull in order to keep a woman interested in me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?That sounds great and the fact that him withdrawing hurt your sexual attraction gives me hope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?And I know women who just want sex. And guys who just want friendships. No 1 size fits all. Our dynamic is interesting, though because we've both friend zoned each other at different times over the years and once mutually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?Oh yeah, I’m sure she has, but she doesn’t know if it will work out yet. But I don’t get what that has to do with our friendship dynamic, tbh. We’ve been friends without sex before. Once was my decision and once was her decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?No, she isn’t acting like she wants a bf at least she isn’t acting like she wants me to be her bf. She is pretty much treating me the way women treat men who they are not into, except she comes to me for sex, when our dynamic was and was supposed to be friends who have sex. I don’t do the whole game thing, so I get a little torn about how to treat situations when she does things appear to be game even if they are unconscious. I don’t want that dynamic, but I am not sure it is realistic to try to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?I had this before. It was great. How does this affect your sex life? Did you have sex with someone with more of the unfavorable or just a lot of tension or sexual polarity and it was better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?I tend to agree. I guess that’s why I’m double-minded on the issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?Posturing for an advantageous position with who is more emotionally invested, withdrawing to increase sexual tension, losing interest if they are too consistent or upfront with their desires and intentions. Seeing sex as a goal and losing interest afterwards. I prefer the relationship model of being honest about everything and just seeing if the desires are mutual. Two people who increase their interest as they gain interest from others instead of push and pull. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?Pretty same situation here, ftmp except she gained some weight and I lost some (not all) attraction, and we had some stretches of trying to be celibate fo religious reasons, but she treated me so well and seemed to reward my good behavior. I don’t mean this transactionally, but like she wouldn’t message me less consistently because ain’t was kind to her and turned me down for sexual activity probably less than 5-10 times in 4 years and we argued less than 5 times. We grew apart our beliefs and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?I agree, but it looks like that’s what the mating/dating game is :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?You sure she feels that way? I think that I am a little jaded by red pill and what I’ve seen in life, but I am torn because I do not want to deal with casual dating mindset women, but I also do not trust women who come off as not that sexual to me, or too logical about her sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?The way I see it is having to use push and pull and lack of emotional investment in order to build tension and/or gain power over the other person. To me, the ideal relationship is positive energy leads to positive results. A person shows interest and it builds interest in the other and they move closer to each other, instead of having to pull away and manipulate someone into thinking they are more interested so that they chase. I’d rather pull up to a situation, knowing what I want, honestly re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?That’s an understandable POV. I hVe been with someone where it worked backwards, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?Ok that makes sense. As much as I prefer this type of situation, it may have less potential, sexually. And it may be less overall exciting to especially early 20s, attractive women, who habe adopted modern dating’s mindsets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?How does it effect your sex life? Does the freedom to communicate make it better or have you been in a situation where there was more sexual polarity and that made it more powerful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Were you ever able to have a relationship or FWB that was satisfying without the gender power-dynamics, found in casual dating ?Basically, the woman not losing interest in the man for showing interest and the man not losing interest when he gets sex -- basically, just two people who are treating each other more like friends than evaluating them as partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Do women really hate the idea of men improving themselves?I will say about the body bit of this that I like thicker women, but the most important thing to me is shape. I do not like women who are so fit that I do not know what they'd look like if they'd gain weight. What attracts me most is women who, when they gain weight, it goes to their legs and ass more than stomachs. By them being a little bigger, I am better able to tell. A woman's weight going to her legs and ass attracts me because I feel I will be able to maintain attraction to her long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Does it make more sense for an average joe to find a woman who chooses to suppress the true depth of her sexuality or for him to make the effort to attempt to be a sexual alpha who is the object of that desire?The funny thing is that I never even had a real urge to cheat, but idk. My mom cheated on my dad back in college and to my knowledge, he has never been a cheater even though I know for a fact that he can have many beautiful women because he's been single my whole life and I've seen them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Does it make more sense for an average joe to find a woman who chooses to suppress the true depth of her sexuality or for him to make the effort to attempt to be a sexual alpha who is the object of that desire?Actually, (to my knowledge), I have never been cheated on and have been women's "best" partners. It's weird. My experiences are relatively positive, but compared to the extremes of the horror stories and the extremes of others' best experiences, it's easier for me to empathize with men who gave been fucked over because of how things I saw growing up kind of match what redpoll says about female nature. I feel that while my sex life has been good and I've done a variety of things, I feel that ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Sums up my struggle with external validation and needinessI just think it’s rude as hell and because it’s a female that you’re romantically involved with, you have to not say anything to to avoid looking butthurt, is what’s aggravating. My friends and I don’t leave each other on read when asked a direct question or something like that. It’s disrespectful. We’re supposed to be friends. actually friends. We just fuck too. If the itinerary was to be just fuck buddies, I would have expected nothing at all. | /r/seduction | 07/02/19 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible that ego has more to do with current relationship dynamics than we thought?The point I’m getting at is that women’s happiness has gone down as a result and that men are seen as less desirable when we compromise. Idealistically, I lean towards egalitarianism, but realistically, patriarchy has a much higher chance of all involved being happy than matriarchy or really even egalitarianism. And women still do not out earn men, women do give themselves and each other more orgasms, though, and women still do not generally have the same ability to be visionaries as men. This i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/19 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible that ego has more to do with current relationship dynamics than we thought?Women also desire validation, it the difference is that validating women often comes at the expense of her sexual desire, while the opposite is true for men. When a man feels properly validated, he is usually content with his women and wants to make her his partner for life. When women are validated, they often get bored and feel that their partners are too easy going then sabotage what could be their own happiness. I think the holding back of potential is a good point. I agree. I have been ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/19 06:06 PM |
| 3 | how do i ask a guy to be fwb...Just ask if he's a guy not threatened by aggressive feminine sexuality. FWB is honestly my comfort zone. It is a win-win for most men. He may be waiting for you. | /r/seduction | 05/02/19 04:46 AM |
| 2 | 4 Reasons Why Girls Friendzone GuysI think this is for selfish reasons. And all of this is about selfishness, really. She wants it or doesn't. He wants to or doesn't. That liminal space is more painful for the one who wants it more or has less options. Getting out of it feels good even if it is not to the initial desire. After enough of that though, guys may wise up and really want to get there more than clarity. | /r/seduction | 01/02/19 11:30 PM |
| 5 | 4 Reasons Why Girls Friendzone GuysThis! The only way out the friendzone is to never go or to go all in —actually be her friend and let go of the expectations. Your time may come, but it’s not if you’re waiting on it. | /r/seduction | 01/02/19 09:29 PM |
| 2 | (Discussion): Why does mainstream messaging focus solely on improving men's problematic behavior in furtherance of a better world? Is it A. Women don't have sufficient problematic behavior to correct, or B. Society only cares to regulate men's behavior? Or something else?Toxic male behaviors are usually much more explicit than the oxide female behaviors, which often eat overlooked and swept under the rug. Men commit most murders and rapes. These are facts. Women also do those things, as well as paternity fraud, but toxic feminist is mostly about not taking responsibility and having to be the victim in every scenario — like divorces and false rape accusations and taking all a man has in divorce court, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I think you missed the whole point of the post. The post is inquiring as to why more women do not experience PIV orgasms or prefer PIV in general It would make sense if most did, but I'm trying not make sense of why most don't. Exploring the reason behind the divide is different form trying to further it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Yes, we broke up and are FWB, but while she says she enjoys it and and desires it, I am still suspicious of it. Most of our sexual relationship, both ways, revolved around oral sex which is more about skill than chemistry. I would want to marry someone who I have a lot of PIV chemistry with. Part of the reason it was mostly oral was due to bouts of both of or one of us choosing to be celibate/abstinent for religious reasons and slipping up into oral sex or using it like a loophole. When we first… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 11:34 AM |
| 2 | She is crestfallen the husband wants a divorce and feels he isn’t giving a “good enough reason” to get one. Shocking!She sounds reasonable to me. When men say the same thing about women, red pill guys say that women are emotional and illogical and it's all about "feels". I'm sure she left out some details, but from how her post sounds, it looks like he is just imgoing through a phase. But he said he is 100% sure. She seems like she is trying to avoid butt-rape via courts. | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/19 10:30 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%That was the point that my original post was making, and I’m one of those weird guys who has had opportunities but has never even given serious consideration to cheating. I like sex for emotional reasons and things like that so ONS are not appealing to me. I like to plan, execute, refine, and experiment. I’m not a very in the moment kind of guy, so while I have hooked up and it is never a one time thing, i don’t feel one time of sex shows the best of my skill set. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I think y’all have some weird views towards communicating. To me, incompatibility is size or mismatched kinks. I think there is something I am not getting here. Some stuff is compatibility and some stuff is just conditioning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I will add this, though. Part of the reason so,e guys do not take advice is because of the perspective you shared. They feel that if you direct them, they aren’t treading the sex and will therefore automatically appear less masculine and sexy, even if they are able to get you to orgasm, so many men just do their own thing or what they think works and hopes that gets the job done. I know many women may not think that consciously, but that is the correlation. Many would rather maintain masculine f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I meant that did her responsiveness to you change over time? And my ex was very responsive, but I ask ways felt that she held back emotionally and that over time, her kind ways would probably change . We were together for four years. She’d get close when we had sex and either not tell me till after or stop me because she said it was too intense. I’m the only person to give her orgasms though. I give her nipple and orgasms and go down on I’ve her clot orgasms. She says that I am her best, and I b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Yeah, in my mind, it’s the increased pairbonding and the natural submission and responsiveness as that makes it all but a requirement if I were to want to be Married. I feel all women have the capacity to be that way for some man, and if it is not for me, I see us as incompatible. Plus, I’m not the kind of guy to abuse that power. If she doesn’t want to fuck, regardless of how she feels emotionally, and doesn’t want to be with me slightly beyond common sense, then we won’t last through th phases… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I e seen tit of many times to call it a myth, but thanks for your story. And same, I also am on the bigger side. I don’t try to push moral boundaries in emotionally charged situations so it’s hard for me to say in my case, though, Did she change over time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Thanks for your story. And I think that is a plus side, it’s probably much easier to naturally pairbonding, as opposed to just choosing a mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:52 PM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I think for me, there are a few reasons that are very speculative, but are actual reasons. They are treatment in the future, and being able to maintain a sexual relationship even if we aren’t on the same page emotionally. Also, women treat their sexual alphas different from even their best friend. There’s a natural submission. I feel like if I do not have this effect on her, someone maybe has or will later and then her mind will be blown and she’ll leave or have an affair behind my back In my mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:49 PM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Maybe TMI, but I have two primary motivations for PIV and pleasure comes in the third place. I either want to connect emotionally and intimately, or assert my dominance and pleasure her for my ego. I may be his way because I haven’t had raw sex in years. I’m well acquainted with condoms. This is where my hypocrisy comes out- purely for pleasure, I primarily get head and I have partners who absolutely love going down on me. I don’t use a condom for that, Part of me feels like if I cut my brain of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:44 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I don’t want to get into a debate about evolution here. Lol, the topic at hand is compelling enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%😂😂😂 seriously, lol. It’s a real thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I don’t remember the last time I had a first date. I’m either In a relationship or fwb situation. That’s an interesting dynamic really. I don’t much care for that not knowing what will happen feeling. Hopefully I will regain it before my current FWBs get boyfriends or husbands | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%That’s how I have done and do things. Women usually reach out to me for sex and not the other way around, so I must be doing something right. I can be, but I’m usually not an in the moment kind of guy. I more-so get in the zone. I don’t get horny when I’m there, my engine is revved up on the way there thinking about all the freaky shit that was said, then I execute — not always what was said, but I like to get the boundaries understood in a neutral setting. Being told no or pulled away from for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Ok I wasn’t sure what you were talking about the attitude or enthusiasm makes more sense. I’m more of a thinker than a feeler and I have different mindsets I go into sex with. I can be aggressive and spontaneous, but my default is to be methodical and intense. And how into is into? How not is not? I don’t really play the numbers game with women, so while I have plenty of experiences having sex, I dhave chosen not to sleep with or deal with many women or as many as I can. It takes too much energy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%The funny thing is that I don’t want to be that guy for another man’s woman and I do not want to be that guy at the expense of losing possible lifelong partner, I currently have an ex who is still in love with me and I still love and believe she would make a great wife and mother, but I am reserved because If my beliefs about the importance of certain sexual things. I’d hate to punish her for her anatomy, but I am afraid to risk being incompatible sexually or not being her sexual alpha and findi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:17 AM |
| 0 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Thanks for your perspective. The size thing is weird. Because correlation doesn’t equal causation, but a lot of correlation is always suspicious, lol. I’ve had sex with women who really wanted to have sex with me, but I believe in the golden rule, so idk if I have dickmatized anyone, maybe slightly because every woman I have slept with has been willing to be long term NSA fuck buddies with me. I think a lot of it is my honesty, though. They really do not have worry about me being risky or with t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:11 AM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Yeah, I’d like to think of the PIV o as 4 ways of getting over the mental blocks. Attration/excitement/taboo/adventure (high attraction to the guy or scenario) Emotional security/communication/steady climb ( the BB way, if it happens, talking our fears and shame and gradually getting there) Force/ strong masculine energy/dominance(maybe sociopath or rapist, or just a dominant male) Self-discovery ( you buy a cucumber or dildo and fuck your self til you get it, then teach yourself to do it with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 07:50 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%This is interesting. I feel I know of and understood this concept before this post, but it is hard for me to empathize because I have never experienced serious enough sexual incompatibility to drop someone that was about specific movements during sex. It’s hard for me to imagine that as the person not being just terrible. I wish there were an example so I can get it. Weird thing about me is that when I hear a story, I have to empathize with one or both sides. I don’t think I can learn anything r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Definitely an opinion. I never said it was anything other than that. Now, if you could offer some examples of women being dickmatized by non-coital sex —especially PIV orgasmic women, now that would be a compelling argument that would get me to question my stance, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 07:25 AM |
| 3 | Q4M - Would you want a daughter to date/marry a beta(BP) or alpha(RP) in the current/future SMP?I think the person with the best intentions should govern the relationship with overall checks and balances. My greatest hope is that my daughter gets dickmatized by a blue pill man with a bright future ahead of him. She will be pair-bonded and he will want to do the ‘right thing.” Her biological drives will be met and they can both live in a happy fairytale and if they break up, her imprint will be good guys instead of assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I know weird facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:15 AM |
| 0 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Wow, she can have multiples from her clit? That’s crazy. I’m my experience, clits have been like penises, orgasm, the refractory. I can go several rounds, but with a little break, where I go down again or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:14 AM |
| -2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Thanks for your perspective, I think that there may be genuinely women who are anatomically incapable, but have you heard of the man who lost his dick and was able to have orgasms through his thumb? Idk, to me, women having orgasm from the clit primarily just seems so separate and unattached to the act of coitus. I know you love your sex life and can’t control your body. But would you be happy if he was only able to orgasm through blowjobs and then told you that your pussy felt good to him. Yes,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:13 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%But the issue here is if you want a marriage, the risk of leaving to be with a woman who finds you more attractive, but of equal or greater hotness and compatibility in other areas, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%That sounds stresssful. Willingness and ability to Verbally communicate is a requirement for me. I hope how you do things works for you, but I wonder how many people would get it if you explained. Maybe your process is much more simple and someone who can’t get it is just a little slow. Communication is important to me because I have different mindsets and ways that I approach sex. I usually do not like to sleep with women unless we’ve already discussed it first, then after sex, we recap and fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:03 AM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%In TRP manner if discussion, most women do not have the SMV to afford locking down one of them. After enough do not want to commit, they look towards guys who may treat them better and hope that he can also fuck, but if he’s not amazing with his dick, “at least he has a tongue.” Some women have never had the amazing with the dick, so they jump straight to “he has a tongue.” Now, if that is how it is for most people, then would it better to be content with your partner through ignorance, or to ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%This post isn’t all about evpsch. I’m just speculating. The main point I am speculating is that women who are primarily clitorally orgasmic may see penetration somewhat indifferently or for emotional reasons, so being promiscuous or cheating may not be appealing. I am a guy who primarily desires PIV for emotional/psychological reasons, so cheating and being promiscuous are not appealing to me. Just like different women have different standards of what being fucked well means. I think a big assum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:38 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I would be, but I like my orgasms and I think that women have higher highs and lower lows. I will almost never have sex without getting my orgasm. Most women have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:22 AM |
| 0 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Dickmatizing is a big part of my observations that make me ask these questions. Many women say they are all but indifferent towards penetration and dick size, then you also see many women become dickmatized. Now, if women becoming more open sexually actually leads to the average man being better adept to please a woman through entertaining, that sounds dope to me. If it just leads to harem societies, that will just make relations between men and women possibly worse. Let’s discuss the the dickma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Suspicious that she did not care about penetration and was only doing it for me or that he4 pleasure during penetration wasn’t a priority to her. Men and women aren’t the same but in my mind, it would be like having her suck me until I orgasm and then go soft while trying to put on a condom to have sex with her or say I can’t cum from PIV. Like maybe I would be able to if I didn’t orgasm before trying to have sex. Btw I have been there where I came twice that day before sex with a condom, I coul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:16 AM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I think there are many factors. Sometimes it can be communication and sometimes it can be emotional or psychological hang ups, sometimes it can be anatomical on the man's side, sometimes it's the wrong angle or force, and sometimes it's anatomical on the woman's side. I do know that many women fake orgasms, but I wouldn't feel safe being with a woman and not being her "alpha" and one of the primary sales I measure that on is PIV orgasms. Yes, I know about the 30%, but I do not want to chance the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%The only type of orgasm and preference I'm speaking of and he is alluding to is PIV. The orgasm gap is part of the discussion, but not the main focus. Many Lesbians focus almost exclusively on noncoital sex so they naturally have higher orgasm rates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%30% is a large amount. So, while it can be anatomical for some, I don't think that is all of the problem or most. That's my opinion, though. And frankly, I do not feel that clitoral orgasms are gender-specific enough to deepen a bond on a sexual polarity level, nor to stroke my ego. I know, I know. Ego is bad, but I've tried to get over it and I'm working on it, but it may be better or easier to just embrace it and see what comes with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I have experienced this personally, where a woman I would sleep with would not be relaxed enough to take my penis unless she first had an orgasm, which I was happy to give, but it did make me suspicious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:21 AM |
| 1 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%I don't believe in evolution. I am christian, but my beliefs aren't traditional, so that work can be used loosely here. And I have always been a big proponent of foreplay, but prepatory is more than that. Please explain what you mean by bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:18 AM |
| 2 | Are women who find their primary sexual pleasure/source of orgasms through PIV more promicuous? Let's discuss theories around the orgasm gap and the 70%Thanks for your story! And being able to easily orgasm made it easy not cheat in relationships? What made it hard to get in the mood in your ex Db? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:15 AM |
| 1 | The bluepill bubble: am i right or wrong?Ehh, blue pill for a sexual alpha sounds like the best way to be imo. What’s important to me is happiness and results. If you could get it without red pill, fuck the red pill. Yes, they may get fucked in court one day o cheated on, but blue pills believe that can happen to. If they do not need red pill, leave them be, people looking for answers need them. People who aren’t looking for answers are content for now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Hard cases for men?I think you are right, but I somewhat agree. I guess it’s that if it is a matter of nature instead of nurture, his kids may have it in them vs them also having to learn. It’s like finding out a woman had a bunch of plastic surgery. Her children will not have the genetics of her altered self. I fall into this mindset myself. I have been told that I perform well I’m bed, but I studied and don’t have the most sexual charisma. Honestly, the stuff I learned to please women sexually doesn’t excite me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 10:33 AM |
| 2 | The Definitive Guide To Abundance And Scarcity With WomenI’m trying to figure out how to get rid of scarcity mindset without implementing other women because this will just create a false sen of security that will falter after committing to a relationship, unless one is in an open relationship or believes in cheating. I believe in relationships and marriage, and I do not desire to be promiscuous. The only time I desire to be promiscuous is when one of the women I sleep with is being inconsistent. I also find that not caring decreases how much somethin… | /r/seduction | 11/01/19 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI've noticed that a lot about women. I think women can compartmentalize sex better than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/18 01:55 AM |
| 2 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI’m in the same boat. Part of me also wonders if the lack of jealousy and ego is really more so because of the lack of investment towards the future. Like, if I wanted a long term relationship, I may be more judgmental for functionality reasons. But, generally speaking, I feel more comfy in FWB situations. I’m in a couple right now. I will say the lack of accountability for consistency is a plus and a minus tbh, but at least, especially for a guy, you know they actually want to fuck and aren’t a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI personally have had my strongest orgasms from blowjobs. Probably all of my top 5-10, but I left someone because we weren't consistently having PIV. I wanted that connection and oral wasn't enough for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI do know of women with different experiences though. I do think what you said is the most common, though. I know one women along those lines who feels probably physically best when she masturbates but that there is no substitute for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationThat's one thing that is a little threatening about women, to me. Probably every time I have had sex the orgasm tends to be stronger than if I masturbate. It just feels better with someone and especially when someone else controls it. This may sound irrational, but that kind of thing makes me not feel comfortable with and want to trust women. It makes me want to find something to hold back from women so that I am not all in and still not up to par in some way or another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationYeah, I tend to be one of those guys. I don't have experience with meeting a woman, making each other horny, and having sex with her that same day/night. For me, I am too concerned with health, and not in the moment enough for that kind of thing. At least not yet. Because I dont have that experience, I fear someone else having that effect on a woman I may care about, influencing her to cheat on me. Really, the realization I had about what you're talking about is why I am going through a personal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI know women who definitely do. The women who do get much more horny than most men. But you said most. Flip it then, emotional connection and validation is to stereotypical women what sex is to men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI desire Botha greater experience and capacity for connection through sex, and a greater and experience to perform sexuality without the need for emotional connection. What I have been doing hasn't really helped me as much with either as I'd like so I have been changing it up some. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationIt is good to have what you want when you have it need it the most. I get sex when I am indifferent towards it, honestly. And the first woman, I broke up with after nearly. a year of no PIV after I said I wanted to start back having it. I didn't want her to do it without talkibn to me and she snuck it on me knowing i would disapprove because she didn't agree, so then I was having sex but already emotionally closed off. And when my feelings are stirred up for one person, masturbating and even hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationThanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationThat is exactly how I feel. Nothing matters if sex isn't on the table. Every good thing about that day turns to sour grapes in my mouth. Why get me so emotionally turned on, to then not accept my body inside of you? It's very frustrating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI agree. I only have sex without connection when I do not trust the person. That asnt the point, hut I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI agree with this. Sex is a priority for me because I see it both as the barometer of a relationship, and it validates time spent. If I have sex, I don't feel like I wasted my time, even if I am not really interested in the girls Whetger it is to connect or to boost my ego, and either way, it's for pleasure, sex is always one of my priorities . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI definitely know women who are. I'd say that many women can be more sexually compartmentalized than men, which is why women usually buy sex toys while men buy sex workers. Women who have had great sex (not all) usually desire sex for sex sake and can take out emotions more than men. I usually don't need to take out emotions from sex. It just is what it is. But I don't do it just for the feeling. There is the ego boost and the closeness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationIt is weird because I know of a good bit of straight women who have sex with men for validation moreso than sexual pleasure, which may be a factor in the orgasm gap. There are genuinely some women who'd feel.more satsifed being pounded by a guy who she sees as high value until she is incapacitated, without orgasm, than to be given an orgasm through oral sex by an average guy. It just feels more dominating. I personally like to give orgasms, though, but for some reason when women get really into … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI'm no good with those patterns. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:17 PM |
| 2 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI am not good with social cues. The women I deal with are pretty honest and blunt when they want sex, which is probably one of the only reasons I have sex tbh. I don't like sexual tension because of the let downs. I get sex usually through blunt conversations and s little flirting until it happens. I usually don't start with flirting and lead into sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationThe funny thing is that when I REALLY want sex, women who ask me for sex turn me down. And my sex drive/desire/expectation I'd really high on special occasions. It feels like a must to make the occasion memorable. So, I like to plan things out. And there were instances with women where I took time to determine my intentions or maybe told them close to upfront and then found out they had a boyfriend. I was fine being a friend while they had a bf. But when they became single, they pressed into me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationIt's a little.more complicated than that. Two of the greatest instances have been women I was in sexual relationships with. One had religious hang ups that would cause her to go through cycles of being available and unavailable sexually, usually without a warning. It got to the point where jw as so afraid of her feeling pressured without me knowing that I quit initiating sex (really it was mostly oral throughout the relationship.) She'd be obsessed with the oral, but had a lot for self control w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI dotn quite get what you're saying but I think I usually appreciate your comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationThank you! & I am a poet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationThis may be an accurate description for some. It flips it. I only have sex without connection when sex with connection is not available or when I don't trust. That connection and want my ego stroked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI do feel that there is somewhat of a barrier in the depth of friendship with men because I don't want to sleep with them. And a few points. To be entitlement is to feel inherently deserving. To deserve women's bodies is to see them as a prize. It implies that it must be worked or paid for. That puts women on a pedastal, which dehumanizes. You're making women sound like whores. But if I did follow that logic, you would still be wrong because if a man invests time, resources, and emotions in a wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI agree. I really feel more comfortable in genuine friends with benefits situations than even relationships and dating. To me, I feel that friendship is much closer to unconditional love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustration😂😂😂😂😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationInteresting perspective. Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationThat's how I feel to a tee. I would say that orgasms for me feel much better when I don't control them, so blowjobs beat masturbation every day of the year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI am single and still want a connection. I am trying to learn to get into sex for the sake of sex. I am usually that way about oral, but not with PIV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationBasically, an emotional connection is very important, but it doesn't work well with me as an indepent variable. What I desire most is a sexual relationship with an emotional connection, but either way I want sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationTo me, it is not more important, but just foundational. I can enjoy the feeling of sex without romance, but I can't enjoy romance without sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI usually am able to curb and minimize my emotional needs unless they are being aroused. When my emotions are being stirred up in a positive way by a woman I desire to have sex with, I begin to feel comfortable and I begin to long for her. Like they say, hope deffered makes the heart grow sick. Perhaps, my emotional and sexual needs are tied together and when I am really open with one, the other follows behind it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 10:18 PM |
| 4 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationIt doesn't cut it. If I develop a sexual desire or expectation, masturbation doesn't curb my sexual desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 03:15 PM |
| 3 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI'm neither, but I guess it depends on how you measure infrequently. I was in a long term, long distance rationship for 4 years and I do not believe in cheating. Right now, I am sleeping with two women. That's not a lot, at all.I don't like the idea of sleeping with many women to be honest with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationI've been there. I left the relationship. I need to feel desired insjde of her vagina. Oral sex didn't even cut it and I could get it whenever I wanted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 02:37 PM |
| 4 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationIt is exactly this. It's not that guys only care about sex, it is that connection without sex is painful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 02:36 PM |
| 3 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationThis is exactly how I feel. I can be with someone and stay attracted due to emotion, but emotion comes and goes. There's a woman I love and care for, but she wanes between waiting for marriage and wanting sex. She also gained a good bit of wait since we first started being together, so I can he attracted, but it is not an always consistent thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 02:33 PM |
| 4 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationImportance vs priority of sex and why it is what it is for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 08:46 AM |
| 7 | Sex without connection = a need being met. Connection without sex = frustrationYeah, romance feels like foreplay to me. Shit, even just enjoying myself with a woman I am sexually interested In feels like foreplay when I feel that sex is likely. Sex is the climax. A constant build up without a climax for a man is very frustrating. I get emotional blue balls and it is almost physically painful. Then, I end up detaching emotionally. Masturbation doesn’t cut it for this one. The pain persists until I either disconnect emotionally, or have sex with her. If I am open without tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 08:07 AM |
| 33 | It took long enough, but even one of the sexiest women of all time is reaching the wall: Monica BellucciWow, I can't believe it. A human being is getting older. | /r/MGTOW | 19/12/18 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?Part of me believes that most women would be willing to sleep with a man in the first night if he was attractive enough to her, so I do not trust women if they want me to wait and “work for it.” Now, I may wait because I want to wait, but if I decide to go there with her, I won’t penalize her for it, I will want to be with her because of her personality and mutual attraction and values, not because an assumption about her morals that may be wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 08:50 AM |
| 1 | Why does MGTOW talk about women hitting the wall?It feels like karma to them. 2. So, guys know not to hinder the karma and reward them with commitment (at all, but especially) after the wall has commenced. | /r/MGTOW | 02/08/18 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.Her sexual preference on a physical/mental level - the one who pushes her past previous limits. It's not a exclusively a BDSM thing, but probably moreso a sexual polarity thing Also,unless you're into cuckoldry or some other kind of nonmonogamy, sex is one of the only things that is not acceptable to outsource in a relationship. Because of this, I think it is one of the most important areas to be compatible in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/18 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.Sounds to me like you're reaching- and very hard, at that. The issue is a matter of nurture (and possibly nature) having different effects on men vs women. Does that equate to seeing women as below me? Fuck no. I am inclined towards monogamy. I already know this of myself, so I do not worry about it. Men are usually less likely to settle because of the overall package of a woman and men are much more likely to be satisfied by sexual encounters. Men are more likely to be caught cheating and are m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/18 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I have seen the usefulness of the red pill in my own life. i think the bluepill is an option if you find someone at a young age who has the ability to love and not just use. While what I said is how I view the sex thing, it's still possible for a dude to be so "alpha" or whatever that he can get better results with a woman and be treated better without the investment, in many cases and that's the scary thing. The red pill is for guys who didn't have the luck of the draw for whatever reason to le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/18 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.Yeah, I think that's how I feel. I also think that women's ability to compartmentalize their needs will bite them in the ass then whatever snake they have in them will come out. I think men are more likely to make sure they are actually satsifed before being with a woman, while a woman may emotionalize the relationship and try to gloss over the fact that she is unsatisfied in several areas - even things like dick size that can't (really) be changed. I think men are pragmatic up front then love t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/18 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I view sex the same way -not as everything but usually as a microcosm of the relationship, or a foundational point that allows it to stay strong during times where it may be a little difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/18 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I think I have attempted to understand their POV in a more of don't hate the player,hate the game way of thinking. I have seen people who would be talented and successful at so.ethjng without much effort and become somewhat jealous, but now I can look at it and celebrate it. It is the elitist mindset that I want to avoid. It's like older generations views on newer music. I'd rather do what I love and shut up and/or join in on the fun. As an artist, this is how I try to approach these things. I w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/18 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I think it plays a big part to me because I have witnessed infidelity in situations where it did not seem necessary and it was pretty much the only thing I could think to understand the powerdynamics between men and women in some cases. I know that my biggest fears are being cucked and a woman being with me but more satsifed by another man. That shit terrifies me. So, confirmation biase does come into play, but it seems that the treatment that sex-first guys get from women is much better than wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I don't think what you described is in love but optimzation and love at best. You don't choose who you are IN love with. And I just left a relationship where that was a combination of both. I logically chose her and it was an enjoyable relationship, but idk if I was in love. Part of the logical choice was based in scarcity mindset so it was a combination of that and oneitis. We did love each other, though, but we were both safe choices to each other. I want to prove to myself that I can get othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I think the good dick thing should be like flashlights and water bottles in case of a hurricane. In case the guy loses his job for a few months or something happens that shakes the relarionshjp, he doesn't lose all value in his eyes. He still is her sexual alpha and is the only sex she wants, so that gives time to repair the relationship. Likewise something can be said about attraction with men. I was with a woman and we loved each other for years, but maybe we were never really IN love. We got … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 08:27 PM |
| 0 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I am speaking of the concept of being satisfied in a relationship- not telling on self that he or she is satisfied, but being actually satisfied. I think the human needs break down to wants and needs. The needs may be to be the security and the wants may be the desire. I think humans need both to lead truly happy lives. A man can meet everyone of a woman's needs, but if he doesn't it "do it for her", she is not in love with him. She may love him and want the best for him and may even cooperate, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.No it just seems like the closest thing to unconditional love in romantic relationships that I see often, and it's not always just the treated like shit part. For me, I have seen many women and some men say how they cannot convince themselves to be in love with someone. I have heard others say how being in love is a neurological thing. I think that sex may play a bigger part in it for women than many may want to admit. I have heard women with their own words say how they allowed so many things t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.Do you feel that you two have stayed in love? And what role do you think the saex has played in it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.That may also be a possibility. Several women over my life doesn't sound too too bad. Not optimal but not loathsome. I have a tendency to have oneitis and sometimes it works out and other times it doesn't. I like the ability to tunnel vision on one woman and let the other women disappear from existence. And I want to be open to the other ways, but in the back of my head it's like changing the standard due to failure may not be a matter if it jot being possible but that I just wasn't the person t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 07:55 PM |
| 0 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.For me, sex being separate from love creates a dichotomy of body and spirit where Love cannot make a sexual experience the best. It makes me worried that I may have to end up with a woman who has had better lovers that I will never measure up to and that I may be that guy to another man's woman, which I also wouldn't like. It rings the bell of settling in my mind and resentment and discontentment or merely emotionally-based contentment that fades and then the real desires come back to the surfac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 07:48 PM |
| 0 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I oversimplified a little for shock value and to try to make as much contrast as possible. I think there is more than that to an extent, but I kind of think that free will is an overrated concept and choosing to submit is like choosing to love someone as opposed to falling in love. It can be more of an imitation than the real thing, but if you get the results that you want, why complain? I have this thing about motivations and internal energy sources and obligation/guilt are things that do not h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I'm on the purple pill debate lol. And I've thought about that even today. I guess I have the blue pill goal in mind, while using the red pill philosophy to sort out women and some of the roots of my own emotions towards them. It's like someone can achieve something naturally, without the knowledge of how and thus lack the ability to teach others. The people who can really teach either have a talent for teaching or went from an inability to do something then acquired the ability along the way. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I was in a loving relationship that lasted for years and rarely ever argued about anything. At the time I thought I was but my definition of what being in love is has changed and idk if I ever had that. She was a safe choice. I was a safe choice. We were (& somewhat are still) best friends and enjoyed sex with each other, but idk if there were ever really sparks. There wasn't a very high initial attraction on either side tbh. We just worked. I do think highly of sexual intercourse. To take away … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.If a woman was dickmatized by a man who valued and cherished her & had good character, would it lead to a long, happy marriage? Is this what the long, happy marriages are all about. Oneitis and dickamtism( which usually leads to alphawidowhood) are usually spoken of in negative lights because of what people allow others to put them through, but I think they are probably the closest things to unconditional love that romantic relationships can have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.It is when a woman is pleasured sexually to the point that she stops using common sense and loses desire to be with another person sexually, even without a relationship. She becomes addicted to the dick and usually allows men to get away with things that she normally wouldn't. This is really looks more like unconditional love. My question is, what if this happened with a man who were to treat the woman with value? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 04:20 PM |
| 0 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.Just because you have not seen it does not mean that it does not exist. And I speak from the perspective of someone who is already inclined towards wanting the best for my partner, so maybe I am biased. But according to TRP female nature (really human nature) is the battle of the sexes. I dotn prefer to battle, but sometimes it appears that that is the only way to maintain peace. You could say that by nature men are leaders. Many women like the idea partnership but grow to detest the man fot not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.Yeah, I agree with your comment and I do not need a relationship to last in order to consider it successful or valid as real love, but it is definitely preferential. And idk tbh. I feel that even if I accomplish all of the worldly things I desire, if I am unable to share those moments with a female companion that I share love with, it would not mean as much to me. It's like sex. A big part of the thrill is sharing it and to share it without mutual enjoyment is not as good either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.That is one outcome I've thought of. And I think it can be the case at times, but there are certain things that make me unable to accept that fully as the reason. Why would abuse (or maybe moreso neglect) be stronger than love ? Or even loyalty? That can't be the only way people can be loyal by preference IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 04:01 PM |
| 0 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.No, that's pretty much it. But it seems that in the redpill community (and dating world in general) that people lessen their view of the other person's value in order to increase their own and have a mindset where the other person is disposable. This indirecrly hurts their ability to enjoy the other person decreases resolve to work through issues, which is a plus of oneitis. The issue is not resolve to work through the issues. It is a lack if character to treat people well who are willing to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testWhen you spend a lot of time feeling different, sometimes it feels good to know you're not as different as you think. The self-fulfillinf prophecy thing can be cool but by the same token, having categories and standards give platforms that quickens processes that we do not feel the desire to dig into. I feel the same about this as the whole desiring full freedom then being okay with the general understanding. And sex is just part of or the core of what I want. I want love and connection as well,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testI do pretty much the same thing, but it is more of a not holding back something I would have done anyway and recognizing that it is something that a person who uses game would not do. "Visceral Repulsion" sounds like a strong word, but I did word my OP for views, which is more manipulative than anything I do with women. I think showing interest and seeing if she loses interest as maybe less vsierally repulsing than showing vulnerability and seeing if she loses interest. I do that as well. I thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testBy the time it gets to practice, I don't have the emotional investment, so it doesn't matter, but I has worked out for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testYup, that sounds pretty much right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testWhat is low value? I don't like to play the value games. I am going to be myself and behave accordingly. But, if my value is assessed by how much I value her, and more means less, then I am not interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testThat's the thing. I conduct myself the way I am without fluffing my behavior up front. I don't want to sell a fantasy of what it is like to be with me because that would cause a woman to be resentful if I can't keep it up. I express this. I have avoided enough bad situations up front to still be relatively innocent when meeting new people although I am skeptical. I do not hide my interest levels and pretend to be aloof and do not hide my everyday emotion to pretend to be stoic, or hide my points… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testI am relatively consistent. I have a hierarchy of what I want. 1. No games. 2. Me playing. 3. No play. 4. Her playing me. I woukd rathet have sex with an emotional connection than anything else, but I would rather have sex than not have sex and while I have an ideology, I am not sure how well it will always pan out into the real world, so I do have contingency plans, because regardless of how I feel about a woman, I still have sexual desires. I also usually do not try to talk to several women at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testYeah, that may be somewhat of a case, but that type of shit terrifies me. And sorry for the typos. I was on break from work when I commented earlier. I don't want a woman to be just fine with me. I feel that is a set up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:26 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testI don't seek to change me or others, but just to grow at being myself and help others grow at being themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testI somewhat agree. I love personality tests though. Lol. They're so fun. And the type of relating is more important to me than who I am relating to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testFor me, I am pretty introspective. In action, these things are not nearly as malicious as they sound, but I recognize that the way I feel about it are. I am a guy who has long conversation with women and expresses my ideologies and from there see where they are. If their ideology is something I do not agree with, there are no hard feelings at all. We can be friends with benefits or just friends. If they tell me about what kind of guy they like and are tired of being with, and I fit the descripti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 09:20 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testSelf-awareness is one of my strongest traits. I do not make people earn my attention, I work backwards. With friends, there is no issue with this. But with at least modern dating), so many people try to impress or suppress themselves that when people do not filter themselves, they appear to be different. I am not interested in playing the game of comparative value and assessing value based on level of interest. I make this clear up front. If I notice that that is a part of the situation, I eithe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testIdk. That may be true. I must google this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Reverse-shit testThat is exactly what it is. This is why I go along with the coldness after being authentic doesn't work. I still want to be in the game. I just don't like the idea of competition. I'd rather see me and the woman on the same time, but when it's me versus other guys, I do not like it. And I fair well in a few categories, but there is always better and there are men who know their time is shirt so they sell a fantasy and exite before the expiration date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Reverse-shit testI do not fake an emotion. That's the part you're missing. I just do not make an effort to hide the emotion that a person adept at game would usually hide. That is the part I think you're misunderstanding. And I do not think that the cold afterwards thing is alright. Deep down it is somewhat malicious. It is saying "this is what you want? Fine, here, you can have it." Intimacy/emotional connection with sex is the highest way of relating to me, but regardless of how I feel about a person, I still … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 04:33 PM |
| 5 | Reverse-shit testOh you ssaid first date. that sounds cool for a second date. I hear some guys joke about taking women swimming for a first date t bypass the make up. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 11:53 AM |
| 0 | Reverse-shit testSo, you are saying that it is hamstering to see an opportunity to lie and tell the truth when a lie usually would go somewhere? Yeah, that sounds like a reach to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 11:35 AM |
| 3 | Reverse-shit testYeah, that sounds pretty good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testMore like showing that I value her highly. Like being quick texted or talking on the phone for hours. Or crying during a movie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testYeah, that sounds about right. I want individual compatibility, but in the back of my head general superiority is easier to achieve but has a lower ceiling of success. So, if I can't have individual compatibility, I will settle for general superiority for a period of time. The thing about general superiority is that it's general and there may be more opportunities. Individual compatibility is a better fit, but you may never actually find it. And sure, you could probably say that I do form myself… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 10:22 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testBeing a fan of does not mean and avid follower. The withdraw and deal with in a more calculated way is after I realize that I do not want to emotionally involved with her. I still have a body and have sexual desires. They do not leave just because I do not have feelings for a female. You say it is a long way but it was shorter than how you described it. And my path is to learn me, rather than to replicate someone else. It is to stay in my own lane. Maybe you could say a fear of negative comparis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Are sexual friendships better than modern dating?Yiu are right. they usually do not last but for so long. Relationships usually dont these days either though. I am learning about the dance. I am not a fan of it though. I have avoided enough bad situations up front to not have been fucked (proverbially) by the opposite sex where I couldn't see it coming and detach emotionally, so I have a relative sense of innocence when I meet a new person. The emotions built up by the dance have a time limit in my opinion. I also do not like playing the game … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 09:39 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testIt's more like understanding games, but choosing not play and through the natural flow of my regular habits, not removing opportunities to see if she plays. There's a difference between actively seeking to vet someone and recognizing scenarios and choosing to let them happen, instead of alter them. I do not like to sell fantasies and that's what game is to me. I think a woman has every right to disqualify me as I do for her. My disqualification is based on if she plays games more than if she pla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testI have both masculine and feminine aspects. My goal is moreso to integrate them into each other than to be wholy maculine. I do not see the soft parts of myself as inherently bad. Some things people consider masculine or feminine, I just consider human traits. I am more of a fan of the idea of nonduality. I am more interested in the idea of individual compatibility than general superiority, but the fear the general superiority is real is there in the back of my head. I can admit that. My fear wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 09:22 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testYup, the vulnerability I show may be more a long the lines of seeing how she will react to me showing high levels of interest. Friends usually do not monitor whether or not they send a double text or text back fast. If we can do these things without her losing interest or sexual interest, I see her as a possible partner. If she begins to flake or act as if she sees less value because of high interest, I turn off my emotions towards her and become more cold, but still willing for sex. I admit par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 09:13 AM |
| 2 | Are sexual friendships better than modern dating?I've had them monogamous too. It's awesome in my opinion. I'm kind of afraid of STDs so I am usually only with one woman at time even if I am single. Now, if you could have that kind of love in a relationship, marriage may regain some of its value to many men who have vowed it off. Like, fwb does not in anyway earn sex, but BFs and husbands often seem to be found in this type of position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 08:55 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testI am basically speaking of relating to someone without judgment, the way a friend would, as opposed to playing games of constantly assessing each others' value. I feel that I will fair better exposing my back without her knowing i have armor under my shirt than if it happens without my knowledge. That can still happen, though. I generally do not have bad experience with women I have had sex with though - not unless some time has gone by since the last time. That's when I notice issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testI edited the post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testI edited the post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 08:26 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.The comparison can lead to resentment because she may (too) fondly remember the past and feel that she had settled. This can breed resentment which would cause her to be less patient with his shortcomings and more likely to think she can do better, then leave when it gets a little tough c | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/18 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?I'm neither short nor care about women not liking short men. It narrows down the prospects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 01:50 AM |
| 0 | He broke up with me because I cheated. Can I claim rape??Take this upvote. And Here you go. The same way femininists view all men as potential rapists, MGTOW men view women as AWALT. there are natural desire that drive many men to that deplorable place. There are natural desires that drive women to that deplorable place The difference is that women currently have the government to back this bullshit. And in other cultures, the government doesn't punish and the society doesn't greatly discourage men from raping. Of course, these are gross generalizatio… | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?No, I didn't take the bait. I think the argument is relatively clear. I could be wrong but I don't think I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?I don't bash fat women. I personally think that TRP are mostly conservative white men who really think that one body type of women is attractive. The ones that they usually point to as attractive done always catch my fancy. As a black man, I culturally am attracted to "thick"er women on average and what many would consider fat, I find delicious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?This looks like a post on Twitter, where the feminists are in full effect. Try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 01:40 PM |
| -1 | He broke up with me because I cheated. Can I claim rape??Are all men rapists? | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.He is stressed because of a discrepancy between how he feels and what he was taught in an ideology. I am reminding him that there are more than one or two ideologies to make a choice from. I used the word 'really' while asking him to asses. In american culture this usually means something different from just assess. It adds depth. Just like typing in YouTube to see the 'what insert topic means' vs 'what insert topic really means.' I think your assessment of my comment was far though. I think tha… | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.If you think that it does not exist, or that a woman does not have her own positive version of a males positve version of love, I believe you are not truly awake. It may (or may not if you font get past it or find happiness inside of it) be an improvement to the blue pill, but it is not truly awake. True life is to share love. This is my opinion of course. So if it's useless to you, I understand. | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 09:44 AM |
| 0 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.This is somewhat of a subcultural concept, I'll put it differently. If you look at this list of evidence, you can come to one conclusion. It can be factual. You can look at another list of evidence to come to a different conclusion. Based on the evidence one thing may appear factual in a particular situation or way of looking at it, but from another perspective or assortment of data, it can be different. So, it is not a universal truth. To avoid cognitive dissonance or dismissing someone, one ca… | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 09:40 AM |
| 1 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.If you're not truly happy and at peace, you're not truly awake. Use the red pill to not be ignorant, but don't let it rob you of something you truly want. If you don't want it, cool. But if you really desire love, I hope you find a mutually real thing one day man. | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.I'm sorry to hear that, man. If you are happy where you are, best of luck to you. If not, I think there is a possibility for something better on the other side. | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 09:10 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Men don't actually complain about women's preference. Men usually complain about double standards about preferences. What is a greater dig, something you can or cannot change? What is more beneficial to change, something that does or does not effect your health? I respect preferences though. Nothing wrong with them. Just pointing out what I see as far as lines of logic. I could be wrong but don't think that I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:07 AM |
| 30 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Men can't publicly state it without being shamed and are not met with overall public approval. You can't change height but can do something about weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:03 AM |
| 0 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.That may be easier than finding it tbh, but here's a fucking creepy suggestion. Maybe change your vibration and perception of women? My motto is this, if I am not completely satisfied, it can't be the truth. It may be a fact, but it can't be the truth. The one who's right at the end of the day is the one who's happy. The redpill exposes us to facts we turned a blind eye to and were caught off guard by. I think there's a greater truth on the other side. | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 09:00 AM |
| 40 | He broke up with me because I cheated. Can I claim rape??The fuck!? | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 08:39 AM |
| 0 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.Advising someone to weigh the options and be open to more than one possibility instead of basing his life decisions on something that he may or may not even adhere to 5 years from now makes me white knight? Sure, I'll be that. | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 07:49 AM |
| -12 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.If that helps you to sleep at night. | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 07:11 AM |
| -5 | Pump and dump is so risky. I'm catching feelings for a girl I've been messing around with.Really assess if it is worth it. MGTOW isn't ALL good. She may be a waste of time. She may be the best thing that ever happened to you- even better than MGTOW. Don't miss out on love for some internet guys who won't help you if their advice is bad. I won't help you if mine is. It's just a thought. | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/18 06:29 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I think you get it. If a woman leverages her overall value for overall men the entire time instead of purely sexual value men, then she stands a greater chance of being sexually satisfied by her husband in the future, which I believe is one of the most important aspects of her perception of him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 06:52 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Because the chemicals released during sex are a part of what brings two people closer together and s part of the oil the keeps the motor of a relationship going. It Is not a substitute for communication but communication is not a substitute for sex. If withholding sex is a punishment from either side for a disagreement, then sooner or later the withheld party will get tired of feeling undesired or manipulated and cheat or leave. It is like saying that you don't want to take your medicine symptom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 06:48 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.The point of this is for AFTER the honeymoon phase, where the emotions that women use to allow themselves to settle sexually fail. And as someone who has no interest in seeing a woman as a complete person in a long term, sexual and romantic relationship, perhaps you have not hope of it being interesting long term which is why it's not on your radar. Who knows? But your opinion means nothing towards the scientific evidence of when men and women have their highest sex drives. Maybe you are too sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 06:42 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I can agree here. My observation is that this should be a cherry on top and something that adds to it, because I respect women as sexual agents who have inherent, purely physical, sexual desires. I do think it can enhance it, but if that is the foundation, I have a hard time seeing that woman truly being able to share that experience. Also, if it doesn't have a foundation of natural desire, then the sexual relationship is hinged on the alignment of the 3 things i mentioned. To take your words an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 03:03 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I'm speaking of people who are already in LTR. The initial attraction is already out the way. I can say, however, that I think that a man's attraction to a woman he wants to be with is often more honest than women's (for obvious reasons). And masculinity, competence are very subjective. On one hand a man can be masculine through beh behaving I'm stereotypical ways. On anther hand a man can be masculine by disregarding society's assumptions about what a masculine man should be. These things can b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 02:35 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.You neglect to answer my questions where I point out other points of view. Views that I have gotten from speaking with and observing women. Do the women have a male purview? I don't think so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 02:26 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Also, sex can greatly influence the way people perceive their relationships. Which is the whole point of dickmatism. It is a lens. When the sex life thrives, little things stay little things. When it dwindles, little things become big things. That is somewhat my point. Petty things are petty things and should stay that way but underlying resentment blows those petty things up. Also, the whole the man is always wrong and dropping the ball thing is a trope that is played out IMO. I have seen men d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 02:23 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I didn't agree with either. I express that I have heard women out of their own mouths and in their actions express what I am speaking of. So, to deny that it can be a factor is merely turning a blind eye to other points of view. I also am offering my opinions on not only some problems but also how my perception of an aspect of the problems affects what I think a solution can be. I have not heard a real suggestion of a solution from either of you. Do you think that there are not women who subcons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 02:20 AM |
| 2 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.If they were more "aware", they would have chosen better, I think women in general are less aware of discrepancies between what they think they want or should want, what they think they want, and what's actually good for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 02:11 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I did respond to the wrong person. And I'll look it up. And my theory is that if our desires become tuned to the needs of the other, effortless satisfaction takes place. I believe in responsible selfishness. It's difficult to always out others' needs first. But to have a genuine, selfish desire to help someone because it feels good is the best way because there is no regret if the gesture is not reciprocated. Similarly, to desire sex for sex for women eleviates pressure on both sides and allows … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 02:08 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I wouldn't necessarily say attractiveness. These things can be subjective, but I think it can be either or Conspicuous attractiveness Sexual compatibility (physical match vetween between the two people) Sexual chemistry (energies, mindsets, and pure overall attraction) Sexual prowess (that person's prowess in their physical attributes, techniques, and energy than that they exude). I've noticed that many women are can lose sexual desire for any other man while having a sexual relationship with a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 01:54 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Sorry, I think I may have partly been responding to someone else just now. But I do not believe that every women derives her sexual desire and especially not satisfaction from thing that are completely nonsexual or not related to sex in some way (at least to her). That is an emotional approach to a natural situation and emotions are fickle. Now, having standards of who get in is one thing, but if your pleasure during is contingent on ohtseide factors, are you truly even in the m moment? From wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 01:44 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Integrating and separating are two different things. Do you deny how the cycle of sex because of emotional connection vs emotional connection because of sex can lead to a downward spiral of a relationship if either party misses a step and the other doesn't immediately take up for it? I think that women are entirely capable of desiring sex for sex sake and that much of hookup culture hinges upon this. As a man, I can say that the being the sexual partner is a priority of value above other aspects… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 12:11 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I have seen otherwise and do not believe that that is the only way that female sexuakity works. I believe it is a product of women being conditioned to see sex as a tool for negotiating and being shamed out of enjoying it for its sake. Similarly, I believe that emotional connection and commitment for males shouldnt be some begrudging task, but it is a need and desire that men have are told is a bargaining chip to leverage better mates. I see people as complete people and not as one-sided. When t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 11:50 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.This is the issue for me. When women have a global view of sex, they set themselves up for failure. when sex is an island in and of itself, it is not so easily shaken by the effects of different emotions that can wane. A woman can be purely sexual in her sexual desires for a man and emotions can be a part of it but regardless of their arguments, the sex remains constant. IMO to globalize sex is to not see sex as a shared experience but more a transaction. It creates a cycle of equating sex to no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 11:44 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Looking at a list of issues and desires that people say they want out of relationships and going down the list to see what ive seen cause people to be loyal without the others. Also, which ones have I observed take place where all of the others were present and they were not loyal. Also, what is my perception of what I think shapes others' perceptions of the state of relationships? Another is this. In the scope of society based gender roles I'm social exchange theory and society pushed monogamy.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 11:38 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I think that not being Orgasmc via PIV makes the egalitarian approach more likely and suitable. I don't think hat that polarity is the only way it can work. And I see women choose the bigger picture all the time who stray for the sexual dynamic. I have seen it too much to accept the narrative that women are truly less sexual than men and that it doesn't matter. I personally think that the quality of sex plays a bigger role in the psyche of a woman than a man's because she has lower valleys and h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 11:32 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Im not saying that sex is the reason but I do believe that sex is a big part of that power dynamic. And the sane society that pushes egalitarianism, telling women that is what they should want caused the woman to go after marrying a mam who will follow suit with it. I think perception has a lot to do with things. One of the tenets of being a beta is not having high inherent sexual value. It is a trade-off. I believe this trade off is what leads to a decline in the relationship, as the woman has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 11:01 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I wouldn't want to call them sluts, but this post is about the strength of a shared experience, rather than a trade and offering a possible perspective. To be pragmatic, you could be right. I reserve judgment, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:57 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I am not speaking of BDSM type of domination, I am speaking of going to a place that is sexual beyond her current scope and ability to control. I am speaking of the pleasure aspect. This can be carried out through vanilla. And while I love the concept of egalitarian relationships, I have seen more woman than not contradict themselves to show that THAT is what they are socially conditioned to say that they want and that they would much rather have a leading, dominant male. The ones who say they d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:55 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Have you heard of the phenomenon of a woman being dickmatized? Well, I have not heard of the same thing occurring in a non sexual setting. Instead of seeing women who go through this as weak minded, I see this and wonder that perhaps, this is a natural, inherent mechanism that is a part of pairbonding and building dynamics in a relationship. By experiencing this with a man who does nor treat her well, a woman may be reservwd in whether or not she wants to experience this with a guy she actually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:31 PM |
| 0 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.It's simply a matter of your opinionated. Anectdotal evidence vs mine. You simply not agreeing or claiming that something doesn't exist neither makes your opinion true nor makes it to have never existed. You contradict yourself in saying that you see women as purely sexual first but hold to the notion hay their sex drives are so fragile and that they inherently less sexual than men. You say that sex becomes less important than has nothing to do with the divorce and that other stressors take prec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:17 PM |
| 0 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.If you were speaking to me, I was talking about motivations for sex And the role that sex can play in the sexual polarity dynamics of relationships. There's sex for validation (he has high value, so sex with him affirms value). But after he commits, the value may diminish I'm her mind. Transactional (acculture prostitution). When married she owns half of what is his. She may want to keep relative peace to sustain lifestyle for a time but it gets old. She may use it to get chores done (chore play… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 05:04 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I think women being seen as purely sexual beings and not just transactioanlky sexual beings is a big part that is missing from sexual narratives. When women can tap into this (and I think a lot of the time it depends on that partner and her perception of him (hence the OP)), she will be able to want sex selfishly, and naturally and for the sake of it. In this dynamic (especiallynf carried out like OP), it can keep the fire going and keep arguments out of the bedroom and sex off the table of tool… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 04:51 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I think that is a real topic to discuss. Sex never has to get old though. But perhaps, prioritizing the wrong thing at the wrong time can lead to some discrepancies? Most marriages probably don't make it past that point where both sex drives are dead. My point is the inherent reward of a woman not doing it as a chore, or emotional, but having a selfish, natural desire to do it with him and vice versa. I believe this will keep quarrels out of the bedroom where sex can be used as a tool for manipu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 04:47 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I do not think so. I think they call it looking at the bigger picture or going for who society tells them they should go for. There is such a discrepancy between what people want and what they are told they should want that a lot of fucked up shit happens. This is why I am for honesty and openness and asking real questions. Pick up the red flags without jduging someone's worth negatively. Just know that they arentfor you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 04:41 PM |
| 4 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.It is not fair to the man to be settled for. Being screwed in the divorce is one thing, but generally speaking, getting back out there to find someone who will be proud of him is a blessing in disguise. There's a silver lining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 04:39 PM |
| 0 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Not exactly. I have stayed around the same range of attractiveness in women & I have never cheated nor felt a strong desire to do so. I saw as Much of it is as I could see throughout my life and pieced it together with some hypothesi and then realized I don't want to be accusatory or one sided so I turn the narrative around to fit male gender roles as given by society. What I do wonder is what if a woman is dickmatized by a man who has her best interest at heart and they have an emotional connec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 04:35 PM |
| 0 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.When I say that it is oil to the motor, I mean that it is something that helps shaping the lens through which a person perceives their relationships and it is a decent barometer for the overall state of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 03:46 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I think it happens more than people care to mention. Instead of settling, it's more of looking at the total package and underselling the importance of certain traits to oneself, in order to maintain a sense or morality within oneself. I think if people learn to be honest with themselves about their preferences, we may actually get somewhere about dealing with the ones that are irrational. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.No, I saw it in women first then reflected and flipped the proverbial script because i do not believe things are one sided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 03:42 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I don't really buy the whole women being less sexual than men schtick. I think that generally speaking, their peaks are higher and valleys are lower, so sometimes disappointment is not worth the struggle. If sex for sex sake and selfishly desiring sexual gratification, along with emotion-based sexual grsitifcatin were the case, many wouldn't be sexless. I think that many women settle sexually because the emotions make them feel that it is the best but when the emotions wear down it's "meh". If s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 03:39 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Women find the new partner and stay in the relationship too. I've heard them say that they saved their marriages. This is why I say that a person being your desired, physically/mentally/emotionally preferred sexual partner goes a long way. This goes beyond children or even marriage and labels. I think it is the oil of the motor of LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 03:35 PM |
| 0 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I have had these conversations and observed women in their late 30s as well. But I respect your POV. This post is a theory about a single contributing factor that I believe I have seen and that goes unnoticed. Maybe being raised by women keeps you from seeing them as sexual beings with inherent sexual appetites? While according the TRP philosophy SMV of women peaks in early twenties, while men peak in their thirties, According to science, the sex drives of men are said to peak around 17 and wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 03:32 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.That is the only scenario I am speaking of and I am giving my theory of what I think is a possible factor that contributes to divorces on a level that is a little beneath the surface. It is anecdotal and definitely isn't the case every time. I think it is within possibility. And it is one of a few roadblocks I have to being truly sex positive. I don't want to be that guy to someone else's future woman. And I don't want that guy being that someone to my future wife. Of course, you can't predict t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 03:16 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I have mostly stayed in the same range of beauty, as far as my partners. But I can say that when requirements were put on me that would require me to settle for a circumstance outside of my desires and my personal agenda, my mind began to evaluate the individual, where I previously had not. Before this point, in my mind, everything was priceless, but when the price came, I began to evaluate the product. Regardless, I may have come to the same conclusion, but there may not have been as much of a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 03:11 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I'm saying the likelihood of the guy she's with being THE guy to take her to these sexual places is decreased by leveraging her SMV to have sex with guys who have higher pure sexual market value. Anything can happen, but the chances are decreased. It's developing a taste and threshold for a standard you can't keep up with. If that becomes your preference and you don't have the means to obtain it, you are forced to settle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 01:43 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I didn't bring up chad once. And perhaps, I am wrong, but emotional needs being met without a proper f***ing is like a sex without a climax. I just gets frustrating after a while. And a lot of those same women probably cheat with their ex husbands. Not all monogamous relationships lose spark. I think the ones that don't have emotional connection, but have a natural desire for sex where it will continue even if they are at odds, where there won't be a coldwar where they hold out and play games. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 01:38 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I'm speaking generally and I don't disagree. Im only speaking of something I see as a factor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 01:28 PM |
| 0 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.100% is an overstatement to say the least. I have spoken with women and have heard the contradictions, myself. I am speaking from the perspective of understanding that women look at a bigger picture and saying that it sets people up for failure; especially after indulging in singular focus mate selection. I have seen interviews of women, have observed, and have had the conversations. This is not all male ego. But this is partly from the perspective of male priorities and there is nothing wrong w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 01:26 PM |
| 2 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Many of these reasons seem like reasons that can be effected and summed up to a lack of sexual fulfilment and excitement. And others may be remedied by it. I am not saying sex us everything. I am saying that it can be foundational. Or almost like the oil that keeps the motor running smoothly. Also, I see a lot of people blaming men for being who women-centric society (when it comes to relationships) has conditioned men to be. This just points towards differences between a implicit and explicit a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 12:54 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.When did the children even get brought up? You're just reaching. But here, I will indulge. Part of the problem with sexual pleasure being derived mostly from an emotional connection is that is emotional and can wane, like I have said previously. It can wane by madates being met, hence women losing interest in sez almost immediately after marriage vows (or at least much quicker than men). I.e. now that he has committed, he is off he market and no longer unattainable. Another example. The body say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 12:48 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I have seen different things that people say lead to certain outcomes in relationships, but sexual power seems to be what causes a woman to unconditionally follow a man. At least that is usually a factor. In many cases, I have seen it unhealthy, but I have seen a man do all the things that women say they want from a man for them to still be unhappy or wind up cheating, but I have seen men who could not care less sleep with women who were supposedly faithful, or have women faithful to them even w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 12:39 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.No? And I would say inherent reward vs transactional sex. I am assuming that women can enjoy sex for sex-sake. .I believe I am somewhat speaking of alpha widowhood here though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 12:25 PM |
| 0 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I have a personal theory that like pairbonding, a woman's natural desire to submit to a follow a man's leadership is tied to how he makes her feel and pushing her sexual boundaries beyond where she's previously been. Have you heard of being dickmatized? Well, think of it in a positive way. This happens subconsciously and is not actively controlled by a woman's will. If it was, it would be subject to her emotions. If a woman is primarily into sex with her man because of the emotional connection, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 12:20 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.(First two questions) Not only divorce, but one of the many factors I think s contributing to it. And I already answered your 3rd question. (No question mark) And I didn't contradict myself. I am not stuck to one reason people are divorcing. I am just stating one thing that I think contributes. I didn't say women divorce because of that. I said that some women who give up on sex do so because they havent reached certain heights and this was after I said that they may quit because they have lost … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 12:13 PM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I think that there are natural, subconscious processes that take place that actually make a willingness to settle a slow-working poison. I think quality of sex is more important to a woman's overall satisfaction with a relationship than a man's. I think that women are more likely to convince themselves that sexual incompatibility (among other typed of incompatibility) are tolerable in the big picture of a relationship. This, however, can come back to bite asses when the implicit attitudes surfac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 11:54 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I don't believe that a man needs to desire to follow a woman in order for the relationship to work. That can actually be detrimental. And a man simply cannot safely, permanently grow his penis (if this is part of the leveraged sexual value from a woman's sexal past). And many women do not know themselves to be able to give instructions. Actually, giving instructions can take away from my premises of being sexually dominated and taken to a place she's never been. Now the beauty part is a good poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 11:15 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I would agree. I also think that the divorces aren't all bad things because someone women felt trapped in their marriages due to an inability to provide for themselves. while I don't like how now a lot of women just fuck men in the courts in divorce and that is incentive, I love how women can now make their own money and be with someone for love instead of necessity. Egalitarianism in relationships would be something I'd probably like, but on a subconscious level, similar to the OP, it may brew … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:43 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.That is true as well. My post is primarily about the precedence of what it takes to blow her mind sexually, but this is the second time on this thread that money/status is brought up so I guess it can apply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:17 AM |
| 2 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.I guess I look at it from a male perspective of priority. Being the sexual partner takes utter precedence. I have seen more women willing to leave a man with more money or cheat with a man with less money than the other way around. I think that the desire to be financially taken care of is much more flexible and closer to the fore front of the mind than the effect of overwhelming sexual gratification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:13 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Let's say a woman has 100 dollars to build a man. This 100 dollars is her own SMV. While she is young and building a career or just having fun, she may use 80-90 towards a guy who has purely sexual value. She disregards the other values because they are not relevant. When she is ready to settle down, she may have 100 (not counting the wall bringing down the value). Now, when she chooses a mate, she wants him to have money $20, be faithful $20, be funny $20, and sexual value is at $40. This is ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:08 AM |
| 0 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.My point is based in an assumption that a woman has a natural/subconscious mechanism where she can follow or "submit" to a man who makes her feel like a woman, sexually. So, the man who takes a woman to a place that she sexually hasn't been works a type of pair-bonding where not only is there an emotional connection but a subconscious/effortless bond. A woman may try to work this dynamic and find that she is unable to carry it out over an extended period of time because it is forced or resisted.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:00 AM |
| 1 | What if the increase in women filing for divorce/uhappiness in relationshils is also influenced by how they leverage SMV.Can you explain this for me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 09:35 AM |
| 2 | AF/BB and the Whore/Madonna models are attributes that humans look for in long and short term relationshipsWhen we were discussing this on my post about how they are just the male and female expressions of the same phenomenon, I left out the primary point that is left out. These are what people settle for, instead of what they actually want unless they have an issue or circumstance that makes them unable to experience the other half the equation. A holistic monogamist relationship is where the two people find their sexual, social, emotional, and mental needs with each other. They may be able to outso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)I think it depends on what side of it you are on. The fact that most men would have sex with women they consider sluts, but wouldn't want to commit to them is an example of this is like the cock carousel bit. I think men who are socialized cheat for different reasons than women who are socialized. But all of the based physical/emotional/stability needs are universal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 01:36 AM |
| 0 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)I don't necessarily agree with your premise of Evolutionary psychology and that that is the sole purpose of people doing what they do. I am sure that there are many instances where in some way, your premise may play a part, but I also believe that social landscape can also play a big part and emotional/psychological things as well. Just like over time, what people consider to be attractive changes. What society considers attractive at the time is usually who people get cheated on with and much o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 12:11 AM |
| 1 | PPD men: would you feel validated if hot women had sex with unattractive men, but only if they agreed to not tell.I think that for a man to truly feel free to just love a woman and not feel used for security, he needs to know what it feels like to be used for sex. It's like something the back of the mind that says "you have sexual value". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 12:00 AM |
| 3 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)All I can do is try. I don't want to try too hard because my point is not to villanize women with this post, but to show the duality of this social phenomenon. If I push to hard in any direction, it may invalidate my original post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)I appreciate it. I dont believe that this phenomenon is exclusive to one sex. My goal is to find both in one partner, but if I couldn't, I wouldn't want to lie about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)Yes, but scientifically, women lose much more and much faster. This post is not pointing fingers at either men or women. I was just addressing a comment that appeared to paint women in a light of not having behavior that supports the original. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)I'm speaking of having sexual (and in some cases also emotional) desires that conflict with who a person knows will be emotional/financially stable and present for a long term relationship. This is not a breakdown of clinical terms. This is a person not having holistic desires for their committed partner and having outside relationships to meet that need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 11:28 PM |
| 0 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)Like I said in the original post, I wasn't referring to clinical terms. I was using the buzz words on two different sides of accusatory narratives. I am not much of an adherer to Evpsch (although in do speak in term's of it at times). I am referring to having one partner who is stable and at home and on a pedistal of moral behavior and one partner who piques sexual interest. Many women who have sex with Alpha Phux do not actually get pregnant by them. They just want the physical pleasure or exci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 11:24 PM |
| 3 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)I was appealing t different sides of supposedly conflicting and accusatory narratives. Lover and/or provider is a more accurate expression of what I am referring to. The alpha can also be the lover though and the beta can be basically security/stability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)Exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)These are more along the lines of what I would consider holistic relationships. Not every person or relationship falls under this dichotomy. I am saying that this dichotomy is not exclusive to one sex. Neithet men nor women are better than the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)If that person wants both from you, and you hold them in a compartment, you are using them. People are not tools. It is dehumanizing IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 10:46 PM |
| 3 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)There is scientific evidence that many women lose sexual desire once in committed relationships, and this phenomenon not effecting you would make sense as to why you do not notice it. I wouldn't be surprised if you have experienced it yourself. Also, "marriage of convenience" is also a term to express the Beta Bux theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Phux Beta Bux is just the female version of a Madonna-Whore Complex (Discussion)A person is a complete person, with both sexual and emotional needs. IMO to only view a person as valuable for one of these areas is dehumanizing, because they have now just become a tool to meet a need instead of a partner to share life with. Now, this is under the assumption that the person desires both. It's where the relationship lacks mutuality. If a person has a FWB relationship, I won't consider it immoral, but they are using each other. It's just mutual. Keep in mind, I am not saying any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 10:39 PM |
| 1 | The reality that most women will never be sexually satisfied"Female sexuality Favour's men who will push their boundaries"🙏 I struggle with this very thing due to social conditioning and fear of rape accusations. I had an ex who would always make me stop when she felt she was getting close to an orgasm during PIV, but would let me bring her to an orgasm orally several times in a sesh. Think that the PIV orgasm is the greatest assertion of male dominance and while she pretty much always had an agreeable personality, she feared strong masculine energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 02:41 AM |
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