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| 11 | Help me empathize with male incels | Discussion | hakosua | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/16 05:20 PM |
| 8 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations? | Discussion | hakosua | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 09:03 PM |
| 7 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender? | Discussion | hakosua | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate sub | Meta Discussion | hakosua | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 06:00 PM |
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| 1 | [Discussion] Have you noticed how the 'bitter childless post-wall cat lady' label does not get thrown at women who promote the anti-feminist line, such as Ann Coulter?Attacking a group while saying some of them aren't so bad is the reason for the analogy. Right! And the implication is therefore that feminists mainly attack men, even if they might pay lip service to the idea that there are a "few good ones." I'm therefore building on the original analogy, arguing that it's false because some women (such as myself) cannot mainly attack men -- we simply lack the life experience to do that in good conscience. Since you and I don't seem to actually disagree on any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/17 10:19 PM |
| 5 | [Discussion] Have you noticed how the 'bitter childless post-wall cat lady' label does not get thrown at women who promote the anti-feminist line, such as Ann Coulter?Yeah, and it's often more gendered than we like to admit. I had a male office mate who told me about some creepy boundary violations at a previous office; a lot of unsolicited attention from a senior female coworker. I've had similarly ambiguous but uncomfortable interactions with a couple of male higher-ups, one of whom insisted on taking me to dinner when we were working late. At first, he let me split the check but then he started getting really pushy about paying, like it would be disrespect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/17 07:58 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Have you noticed how the 'bitter childless post-wall cat lady' label does not get thrown at women who promote the anti-feminist line, such as Ann Coulter?The feminist-Nazi hyperbole is so overused that it probably just slipped out -- I get it. Us liberals likewise tend to throw the Nazi label around too loosely, especially in the wake of the 2016 election. I'm going to jump in anyway though because there is such a profound difference between a Nazi acknowledging a few "good" Jews, versus a feminist such as myself expressing gratitude toward the men who made her a better person. I grew up with men. My role model is my father. My best friend is mal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/17 07:34 PM |
| 6 | [Discussion] Have you noticed how the 'bitter childless post-wall cat lady' label does not get thrown at women who promote the anti-feminist line, such as Ann Coulter?There was this weird leftist driven erotica about Coulter I am so curious about your reading habits right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/17 07:05 PM |
| 3 | Worker fired for being "Too good looking". Fair or unfair?Oops, hehe. Okay, now I'm legit sorry, not just tongue-in-cheek suck-a-cock sorry. It's early and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet. i heard there are resources for people who are struggling with autism. maybe you should give it a try? Yeah, I found this awesome website where people give me good-boy points for saying things that they agree with. It's a really neat way of building social skills. I'm pretty religious about practicing on there -- lots of simulated social interaction with people who a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/17 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Worker fired for being "Too good looking". Fair or unfair?I'm going to say something really fucked up, then apologize profusely for it: If you think that's a 2, then maybe there's someone else here who'd be better suited for cock-sucking. Alright, now it's said: I'm sorry. Sucking dick is a highly personal decision. All the more so if you charge $5 for it. I mean, it's a tremendous kindness, offering such an intimate service for so little money, especially if you're doing so in the poorer areas where many touch-starved men are struggling for lack of op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/17 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Sex. Psychological necessity or life's greatest luxury?There are very few "psychological necessities." Regular human interaction seems important, as does the ability to alter or at least predict one's day-to-day environment. Sex is also important but plenty of healthy people go without for years, sometimes even decades. Nonetheless, as u/trail2 pointed out, there's a big difference between voluntary and involuntary abstinence. Sex is seen both as a means of connecting intimately and as a right of passage; it stands to reason then that the people who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/17 11:45 PM |
| 7 | Small experiment on Craigslist...no pics. Just claimed was 30-something female. Short description only. Close to 1k replies in a day.I'm confused. Crime rates are falling overall and America's crime rate is no exception. I do agree that Freud would most likely take an interest in current events though. For example, he might say something about how the increasing trend toward authoritarianism in politics (as evidenced by Trump's election, for example) could almost be thought to constitute a collective neurosis (he spoke similarly about religious paternalism, after all). If he were to comment on this trend, you could decide whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/17 02:14 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: What do you think about the so-called "Man-Shortage?"I disagree that there is a man shortage but I do think that, in urban environments, it's easier to find short-term or non-monogamous arrangements than it is to find monogamous (and potentially long-term) arrangements. The converse seems to be true in suburbs and more rural areas. This makes sense: when we're in a shop with more ice cream flavors, we tend to want to taste-test more flavors of ice-cream before settling on our final selection. If it isn't explicitly against the rules, some of us mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/17 06:55 PM |
| 3 | Q4all: What are some things that indicate to you that a man is sexually inexperienced?The only strong indicator I have is that the guy says, "hey, I'm sexually inexperienced," or something along those lines. Being young is also an indicator; however, I don't tend to talk sex with young guys. If we're alowed to count bedroom behavior: trying to tongue-fuck my mouth or palpating my pubic bone are both easily remedied soft indicators. I say "soft" because sometimes experienced people also need pointers on what their partners like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/17 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Awhile back someone asked if the Red Pill comes in suppository form. After getting past the guilt and shame for being a substance abuser, I can now confidently answer Yes, Yes it does.You mean to say you're taking that special order as a suppository? Maybe it's time for rehab. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/17 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4PP Questions from someone with no dating experience.At what age was your first date, and how was it? I was 12. Between returning back to his place and my parents picking me up, I recall sitting at opposite ends of the couch, wondering why he seemed so antsy. At that age, I couldn't yet fathom that someone might want to make out with me. At what age do you consider it odd when a person has never dated, either failed to get a date, or has no success whatsoever? I suspect you become an outlier by the time you hit twenty. Whether I'd find it "odd" or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/17 07:45 PM |
| 1 | 80% of rapists with anger disorders, 70% of gang members, and 85% of youth in prison come from single mother homesBut I'm not seeing in way way I would benefit from continuing this convo. Ah, okay. Let's call it quits then. You'll forgive me if I'm not disappointed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/17 10:45 PM |
| 3 | Alright PPD, let's see how this goes. Question for anyone: how much do you want to hear about your date's exes? What kind of information do you want to know? What should not be talked about?http://www.glamour.com/story/this-just-in-men-prefer-women Could this be a side effect of supply and demand? I do agree with the RP that, where I live at least, the heterosexual dating scene is skewed so as to provide women with more options up-front. This means that they can usually afford to be more selective in the initial stages of relationships. If the job market is rough, the risks of being fired become more salient; prospective employees will therefore understandably worry more about job … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/17 02:29 PM |
| 4 | 80% of rapists with anger disorders, 70% of gang members, and 85% of youth in prison come from single mother homesWoah. How did "financial inequality is positively correlated with negative social outcomes" become "everyone should have exactly the same amount of money"? Water is positively correlated with drowning but nobody is arguing to drain the oceans. Like water, inequality is a natural phenomenon; it needs to be addressed with an eye toward what's genuinely effective and feasible. Imagine social programs such as public education as like life-rafts; they're invaluable but imperfect protection against an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/17 04:42 AM |
| 7 | 80% of rapists with anger disorders, 70% of gang members, and 85% of youth in prison come from single mother homesAbsolutely. We do tend to discuss poverty in relative terms (I mean, excluding conversations about third-world problems such as malaria). The reason we do this is because relative poverty born of economic inequality is a much better predictor of negative social outcomes. As an RP-adherent, I hope you'll get behind us on this one. Whether or not you believe the 80-20 rule, it's describing a similar kind of problem: you're not arguing that the absolute number of women that most straight men get to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/17 09:09 PM |
| 2 | What about raising a good daughter?In that case, I think you'll do great. My dad doesn't expect me to be perfect but he's always cautiously optimistic. He's also my favorite person, hands down. I flirted with a lot of unhealthy shit growing up but the interests and aptitudes he nurtured have left me (relatively) grounded and self-assured. I mean, he never actively prevented me from making bad decisions but he left me well enough rounded that I bounced back from them. Actually, your post reminds me: I had a friend who did fetish m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 02:39 PM |
| 3 | What about raising a good daughter?https://youtu.be/6Co0Lejvqz8 (Dubai porta pottys) If you want to mature into a good father, stay the fuck away from TagtheSponsor. Or, perhaps better yet, visit their website and try to read the transcripts like I do, from the point of view of someone who was, at one point in her life, an idiotic 19-year-old female. It'll be difficult to shift perspectives. I get that. Much more fun to identify with the men on that website -- the ones pretending to be arab shieks, offering 35 K for a rotating li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: If coy games, flirting, and the expectation that every man wants sex were not part of your casual social interactions, how would you interact with men?Yeah, I feel you deeply on that one. If you were in my neck of the woods, I'd probably friendzone the shit out of you, but that's seldom as fulfilling as a truly egalitarian, mutually-agreed-upon platonic friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 09:02 PM |
| 3 | Q4WOMEN: If coy games, flirting, and the expectation that every man wants sex were not part of your casual social interactions, how would you interact with men?Hehe. I hung out a lot in dive bars as a younger female, trying to get fucked up without getting fucked. Now, in AA meetings, I oftentimes encounter the same kind of outwardly-tough, inwardly-hurting men. If they had nothing to offer, it'd be easy: I'd just act cold toward them. But I tend to genuinely like them, even if I'm not looking for sex. So it becomes this hopeless balancing act: trying to convey that my interest is just platonic without shaming them as creepers. The matrix visual is dep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 08:43 PM |
| 5 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (04 February 2017)I don't think nerd couples, homely/chubby nerd girls, or omegas have anything to do with incels. At risk of invalidating your experiences thus far, or dismissing the experiences of others within your online cohort, this sounds like the sort of thing that an omega would say prior to getting laid. I'm not arguing you will get laid with any certainty; I just don't see a qualitative difference between the omegas who get laid and the ones who don't, besides sexual circumstance and the attitude toward… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 07:38 PM |
| 4 | Q4WOMEN: If coy games, flirting, and the expectation that every man wants sex were not part of your casual social interactions, how would you interact with men?Right, context is essential. But I'm afraid I'm still confused about specifics. Are you arguing that the parallel Q4MEN post would be salty because of our cultural context? Or are you arguing that your original Q4WOMEN post is not salty because of cultural context? You also seem to be arguing that feminism is a form of gas-lighting. Were that true, I'm still confused of the relevance. Returning to the Q4MEN hypothetical, let's pretend it's posed by someone who believes that the patriarchy is a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 07:22 PM |
| 10 | Q4WOMEN: If coy games, flirting, and the expectation that every man wants sex were not part of your casual social interactions, how would you interact with men?How so? I tried to pose precisely the same question but with the genders (and gendered assumptions) reversed. I mean, if you lack the taste-buds to detect salt, then I'm afraid I can't describe the flavor 'salty' to you. I'm not arguing you salted your post intentionally, I'm just agreeing that, however you concocted it, you ended up with a high-salt-content post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 07:05 PM |
| 12 | Q4WOMEN: If coy games, flirting, and the expectation that every man wants sex were not part of your casual social interactions, how would you interact with men?It's hard not to be vague when talking about sodium content. How about an equivalent, equally high-salt, low-nutritional-value post: "Q4MEN: If negging, sexual escalation, and the expectation that every woman wants your dick and/or money were not part of your casual social interactions, how would you interact with women?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 06:54 PM |
| 6 | Q4WOMEN: If coy games, flirting, and the expectation that every man wants sex were not part of your casual social interactions, how would you interact with men?Naw That's Just How I Roll | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 06:45 PM |
| 5 | Q4WOMEN: If coy games, flirting, and the expectation that every man wants sex were not part of your casual social interactions, how would you interact with men?While I don't expect that every man wants sex from me, experience has taught me to be sensitive to the fact that a number of men do. This has more to do with supply and demand in the heterosexual dating scene and less to do with me personally, my looks, or personality. Were the probability that someone wants to fuck me not a consideration, I'd most likely talk about sex a lot more often. It's one of my favorite topics but, as a (somewhat!) sexually desirable female, I worry that discussing sex w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Which gender has the most useful privileges?Oh, another person who grew up spoiled! It's always somehow reassuring to know I'm not alone in that. Otherwise, I start attributing too much of my own weirdness to my (mostly happy) childhood, as if I was the only kid who grew up without discipline or chores. You're so right: there are plenty of other spoiled kids who evolved into competent adults. In fact, I like to imagine that I'm headed in that direction too. Also agreed re: options. It's much better to have them. If I find myself with a su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/17 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: Women have equals rights. Amidst all this equality, feminists still assert that men and women are not equal. What do men need to know in order to understand the feminist idea of inequality of the sexes?Then why were the examples about sex? Interesting! I'm oftentimes left with this question after reading posts from people in the manosphere; like, if the only consequence of a bias is restrictions on who you get to fuck, is that really such a problem? But now that you throw the question back at those of us who're strongly opposed to slut-shaming, I think I understand their stance a little better. Who you can fuck (or date, or marry) says something about social capital that's difficult to articul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/17 08:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4WOMEN: Women have equals rights. Amidst all this equality, feminists still assert that men and women are not equal. What do men need to know in order to understand the feminist idea of inequality of the sexes?Yeah, I agree a lot of slut-shaming comes from other women. However, I don't think that makes it any less of a gendered problem, nor do I think that means it's any less tied to sexism (albeit oftentimes internalized sexism). Same thing goes for guys who're shamed for being gender non-conforming. A substantial amount of hate comes from other males but that doesn't mean its not a facet of sexism against men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/17 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Which gender has the most useful privileges?It's what you commonly see but I've seen women use it to their benefit rather than detriment. Help lifting things, homework help, etc. The ease with which women obtain assistance in traditionally male domains has costs and benefits. Again, I'm not sure it's a privilege that I'd want to pass down to my children, were I to have a choice in it. Not to say I'm not grateful to all the guys on trains who've given my suitcase a boost to slot it in to the overhead compartment, or to the father son team … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/17 08:05 PM |
| 3 | Which gender has the most useful privileges?Like some other posters on this thread, I'm reluctant to directly quantify privilege. Clearly, different genders are privileged differently in different contexts. With that said, I would like to put forward a couple of ideas for either side to consider. First, intersectionality: especially for those who assert men are more privileged than women, you can't afford to forget about the interaction effects between class, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender expression, religious affiliation, and so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/17 08:47 PM |
| 3 | I know that being 20/f and a virgin highers my SMV; But being a virgin makes me really insecureNah, never fuck solely out of fear of what would happen if you didn't fuck (be it fear of being perceived as 'impolite' or fear of remaining a virgin.) If you're curious, absolutely, that's good motivation. But if the primary impetus to fuck is insecurity, then I'd try to wait that insecurity out to ensure I didn't do something I regretted. Maybe it would help to stop thinking about sex as an all-or-nothing thing? I rushed into intercourse at a relatively young age; not terrible but not great ei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/17 09:51 PM |
| 5 | The flip side of deregulating sexual marketplace.Okay, I'm going to step out of character as a feminist for a second: Damn, my fellow bitches be crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 07:29 PM |
| 2 | The flip side of deregulating sexual marketplace.Ah, okay, thanks, I'm understanding better now. I guess my knee-jerk reaction was "what rare brand of crazy is that man fucking?" but that struck me as a bit judgmental and ill-informed. I'm glad I got a chance to check myself. Still, the morning after pill, as a planned thing? Man, I like the weird stuff but that's edgy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 07:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: It is completely valid to say that "Women are the primary victims of war"Right! Thank you :) Or even... Do we have to quantify it? Some war stories are just so beyond my realm of comprehension -- how do you quantify relative horror? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 07:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: It is completely valid to say that "Women are the primary victims of war"Sorry, there are a few jumps in that statement that I'm not following. Could you flesh it out? I disagreed with the CMV myself. I just don't get how one person saying that women are the primary victims of war implies that we as a whole are failing to acknowledge the tragic loss of male lives in wartime. Also, I guess when you mentioned feminism, I got worried about me standing on the same side of the debate as you, like maybe you'd rather me stand on her side. I mean, yeah, we're going to attemp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 07:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: It is completely valid to say that "Women are the primary victims of war"While war remains a mostly male-perpetrated phenomenon, this might be the sort of generalization that becomes less true as the world becomes more egalitarian. There's also more research now into the phenomenon of "moral injury" -- people in a high-stress, high-conformity contexts doing things that seriously violate their values systems. For example, many servicemen have vivid recollections of killing, or even just failing to protect, children in a war-zone. The repercussions of being a witness o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 06:50 PM |
| 3 | The flip side of deregulating sexual marketplace.I've been with women who INSISTED that I don't use a condom. I've been asked to take it off during sex before. I'm surprised by this but then, as a female, I don't typically fuck other females with condoms. Have any other guys had the same experience? I mean, I get raw sex being hot for women in theory, and I get females foolishly opting out of condoms as a heat-of-the-moment thing, and I even get women who kinda sorta want babies stupidly tempting fate by getting laxer with precautions. But for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 06:22 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on the Women's March Having a Convicted Torturer/Murderer as a Guest Speaker?However, I do agree that some defendants cannot be rehabilitated. This is a good point. We've had a lot of back-and-forth in the states about SVP laws as a form of double jeopardy versus a valid civil-commitment-based strategy. I do believe we tend to overestimate the fixedness of criminal recidivism risk (older inmates cost more and are less likely to reoffend if released). In other words, when you're trying to decide whether to grant a dangerous offender more freedom, it's best to err on the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on the Women's March Having a Convicted Torturer/Murderer as a Guest Speaker?I worry we often overlook effectiveness in our quest for fairness. My understanding from criminology is that harsher criminal sentencing simply is not effective. Of course you can reduce recidivism by keeping inmates confined but it's costly and has little effect on would-be offenders. And, while fear of societal shaming seems to be a deterrent to would-be offenders, societal shaming itself is a poor rehabilitative strategy. Overall, the consensus is that more punishment-based systems are less e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 04:08 PM |
| 36 | Thoughts on the Women's March Having a Convicted Torturer/Murderer as a Guest Speaker?Some might say that Donna has served her time and been rehabilitated, and thus shouldn't be judged based on her past actions. All I know is that if an MRA event had invited a guest speaker who was known to have taken part in the gruesome torture and murder of a woman, we would hear no end of it from every feminist publication in the US. This quote brilliantly sums up the sentiments that have been floating back and forth between liberals and the alt-right! As a whole, we're cognitively flexible e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 07:53 PM |
| 9 | Thoughts on the Women's March Having a Convicted Torturer/Murderer as a Guest Speaker?She's the same woman. Here's her personal bio where it mentions the convictions for kidnapping and second-degree murder, and here's a YouTube interview in which she discusses the women's march. I have a lot of mixed thoughts and feelings about it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe that some people have yellow fever? What is it for you? More questions insideDo you believe that some men have yellow fever? Absolutely. What's the difference between a guy who likes women from Asia and a man who prefers to date busty/tall/outgoing/insert preference here? It's easier to reduce a person to a word like "Asian" than it is to reduce them to a word like "busty." The guy who likes Asian girls might therefor struggle more at first, getting to know the girls whom he finds most attractive. Fortunately, guys who fancy Asian girls also tend to enjoy socializing wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 06:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.Hey now. As tempting as it is to dismiss vanilla male sexual partners' desires as dull, there's more to "abundance" than "nice tits." Whereas some guys like the savvy and assertive trope, others are more down for innocent and pliable. Discerning a the unique recipe for your partner's vanilla will better enable you to add your own flavor swirl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 03:35 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.Women tend to get kinky with emotions. Our erotica is heavy with adverbs, verbal jousting, and descriptions of shifting facial expressions. For men, it's more about the tangible and the technical than it is about the emotional. Bodily measurements are a give-away, for example. Women will very seldom specify dick length. Both men and women write some crazy hardcore rape porn. The difference isn't in the edge-factor, it's in the way the author expresses creativity. Women are masters of eroticizing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 03:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If men started demanding extreme sexual practices on a regular basis (rosebuddobg, gusting, etc) many non-kinky women would simply comply.That's laudable. I'm taking the risk with partnered sex at the moment but I tend to grow a lot when I'm unpartnered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 02:22 PM |
| 29 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?"Maximum sexual success" you say? I'd probably start growing weed once he hits junior high so that he has more social capital. Instead of lunch money, I'd give him dime bags; that way, he has to socialize in order to obtain food. Our grocery list would be heavy on sugary alcoholic beverages but, instead of playing the part of "cool mom", I'd just skip out once his friends come over. His grades would suffer; fortunately, when abused correctly, ADHD meds can up the libido. I'd score him a few pres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 02:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If men started demanding extreme sexual practices on a regular basis (rosebuddobg, gusting, etc) many non-kinky women would simply comply.The point about boundaries is a good one. If a women is able to draw boundaries, I don't see a downside to her engaging sexually with a compatible partner (assuming of course that she can find such a partner). However, if she struggles with boundaries then, absolutely, it might be best for her emotionally to stick to masturbation. I'm a bit confused as to where you place yourself on this spectrum. If you think women should avoid partnered sex due to poor boundaries, does that mean that you think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 01:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If men started demanding extreme sexual practices on a regular basis (rosebuddobg, gusting, etc) many non-kinky women would simply comply.women have no boundaries Is it alright to ask your gender? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Is sex/relationships even worth it anymore for women?It's over in 10 minutes You gotta float rose petals in a bath or something? Blatant inefficiency! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 01:04 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Pre RP when you went out to pick up women what was your routine before?Aw, that sucks! I gotta admit, I've been happier since leaving the Mid-West. People tend to settle down so young out there, it becomes tricky for a 20-something to find a single wingman. If you can stomach us SJWs, you're welcome to join us on the coasts. The bars aren't any better (and they're a hell of a lot more expensive) but at least you'll make friends whose spouses don't double as their POs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 06:51 PM |
| 4 | [Q4RP] Pre RP when you went out to pick up women what was your routine before?Jesus fuck. Mad props for not doxing her online. The lack of human empathy that she displayed in doing that is only paralleled by her own poor judgment. Could you drag a friend along next time you go out -- sort of ease back in to talking to girls you don't know? I'm all for guys just opting out of the bar scene if it doesn't bring them any happiness. But I hate that this girl gets the privilege of being your reason for opting out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 06:08 PM |
| 9 | Q4Women: What about "bad" movie characters is attractive? How can men emulate this in a dating context?I think bad boy behavior in movies communicates a couple of important things to the female viewers. "You will not be bored." "You will not be guilted into romantic commitment." "You will bring something to the table simply by virtue of your ability to trust me." "You will be accepted by me because of -- not in spite of -- your perverseness." Male or female, we all love our sexy, flashy, ill-advised distractions. Personally, I envision myself as having a lot of free-floating anxiety -- without su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Feminism doesn't lead to increased hypergamy, but to increased expression of female desireNah, we're just better at sex, meaning we often opt to date within our own circles. I date outside of the queer feminist community myself because I'm self-consciously mediocre at sex. I figure, once I gain more skill, I can settle down with a kinky, androgynous partner who'll explore power dynamics and drink tea with me. At least that was the plan. Recently, I met a straight, cisgender male who made me question my sexual mediocrity. I mean, he's pretty good himself -- maybe that inspired me? I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Is it harder to be an ugly virgin man or a beautiful woman with a high n-count in today's dating world?As the latter, I'm pretty content. Probably the former then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Don't you think all we discuss here are very, VERY first world problems?I feel exactly the same about your posts! Some of them are spot-on and indisputably serious (your response to my in /r/mutualgenderrespect, for example.) But when you say there might be a deeper conspiracy underlying the Jewish conspiracy, then I figure that you also have a sense of humor. My posts are mostly serious but the first post in this thread was a straight-up shit post. The second (with the apology for being snarky) was about as sincere as I get. Sometimes, when I feel myself getting co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 05:25 PM |
| 2 | Don't you think all we discuss here are very, VERY first world problems?Huh. I'm not convinced that the feminist movement has leaders. We're pretty disorganized and heterogeneous, as far as movements go. But, historically, yeah, the feminists who were most visible were white women. It's getting slowly better but the emphasis on white or upper-middle-class issues remains a valid criticism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Don't you think all we discuss here are very, VERY first world problems?Obviously, most of what we discuss here are very first-world problems. But let's not over-romanticize people in the third world either. Just because you're hungry doesn't mean you can't also be horny, angry, envious, or lonely. The themes we tend to dwell on most are simply human, not exclusively first- (or second-) world. With that said, gratitude is a protective factor from a psychological perspective and people on this sub do tend to have a lot that they could be grateful for. In my experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 04:59 PM |
| 3 | Don't you think all we discuss here are very, VERY first world problems?Heh. Sorry if my first response came off as snarky. I've liked some of your posts in the past. But I guess that makes it all the more disturbing to me that you believe in a Jewish conspiracy. In a less confusing world, we'd agree or disagree on all issues across the board; no strange bedfellows, no siding with the enemy, and no lovable assholes. Living in this reality is a constant exercise in mental flexibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 04:40 PM |
| 3 | Don't you think all we discuss here are very, VERY first world problems?This is a beautiful description of the fantasy underlying Trump's slogan, 'Make America Great Again.' In truth, I think we're shifting toward increased inclusion of unhappy people in conversation and increased discussion of societal problems; this does not mean we're shifting toward a higher ratio of unhappy people or increased societal problems overall. Increased visibility does not necessarily imply increased prevalence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 04:33 PM |
| 2 | Don't you think all we discuss here are very, VERY first world problems?My goodness, I'm glad you preface that with "that's just my opinion though." I was all gearing up to grapple with a new and frightening, non-fact-based reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Feminists showing interest for a sub for rights of both gendersSentencing bias in the criminal justice system Bias in child custody cases Paternity leave The US education gap The impact of bias on male domestic violence survivors The impact of bias on male sexual assault survivors Dismissal of male emotions as invalid Violence & prejudice against gender non-conforming men Dismissal of male sexual desire as "dangerous" or "creepy" Dismissal of male concerns regarding power imbalances in the heterosexual dating scene Sorry. I know it's not my place to post bu… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/17 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Blooper here to give advice on what worked and not just criticizeOh snap! Going by the date of that Wired article, my ex might have inspired some copycats. Or maybe it's just intuitive to try to use the talent that God gave you to get your dick wet, be it mad guitar skillz or a penchant for cluster analysis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 05:07 PM |
| 2 | Blooper here to give advice on what worked and not just criticizeI knew a guy who wrote a script to search OKC for compatible women and compose standardized messages based on their profile content. Only, his message to me didn't follow the same template. I probably shouldn't have been so flattered by that. ... Certainly shouldn't have been so turned on. Bad decisions were made all around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 04:23 AM |
| 3 | Blooper here to give advice on what worked and not just criticizeProbably won't work then. How about you take a pic with a guitar instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 04:13 AM |
| 2 | Why do some hot girls go out with ugly guys?Huh. That's a tough call. Our perceptions of the SMV of people from different ethnic groups varies widely depending on personal preferences and cultural context. Here in the US, South Asians like Tom from Parks and Rec are perceived as 'model minorities'; however, in the UK, the stereotype is completely different. You're judging this guy through your own cultural lens, as am I, as is the girl who's fucking him. Slapping an objective SMV on him would miss those subjective nuances. More importantl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/17 08:31 PM |
| 1 | A subreddit for the rights of both gendersYesss! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/17 06:55 PM |
| 2 | A subreddit for the rights of both gendersHave you posted about this in /r/AskFeminists yet? You'd need to phrase it in terms of a question though like "How can I ensure this new subreddit fulfills it's primary purpose of promoting mutual gender respect?" I know you've already tried your luck at /r/TwoXChromosones and /r/Women. I'm sorry your experiences there were so unproductive. I like /r/AskFeminists because, even though they are explicitly feminist and therefore also (generally speaking) explicitly anti-MRA, they're also self-selec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/17 04:29 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A woman's high n-count has at least 5% relevancy to her fitness for a relationship.All right, that's legal in most states. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 04:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A woman's high n-count has at least 5% relevancy to her fitness for a relationship.Is it cool to ask how old you were when you met each other? Not accusing, just curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 04:23 AM |
| 2 | If you consider transwomen to be men, does that make transwomen MGTOWS?You are the gender you were born as. It sounds like you're defining sex and gender as the same thing. The way I've heard it explained: sex is what you're assigned at birth and gender is how you identify. Is there any reason why we can't keep both of those definitions and just let transwomen be women? Also, you mentioned "genital mutilation" but plenty of trans folks don't get the bottom surgery. I know this is pedantic as you never argued the converse -- just wanted to clarify that (as far as pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 09:56 PM |
| 2 | If you consider transwomen to be men, does that make transwomen MGTOWS?If you consider transwomen to be men, does that make transwomen MGTOWS? The second easiest way to gain membership to a marginalized group with an "opt-in" membership policy is to ask another member of the group if you belong there. (The easiest way is, of course, to just opt-in yourself.) So, for example, if anyone here is thinking of joining AA and would like reassurance that they are indeed an "alcoholic" in the "Big Book" sense of the word, you can hit me up. Even if you don't meet the offici… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 09:32 PM |
| 3 | BP: What do you think of the views expressed in this video?Yeah, without knowing the posts or comments you're referring to, I can sort of relate to both sides of the conversation. I have a metaphor but it's really obscene. Read on at your own risk: Imagine we replace "being nice" with "rubbing the clitoris." When guys first discover sex, they tend to go at it pretty hard. But, for a lot of girls, too much immediate and/or direct stimulation is uncomfortable. So a guy figures out that he's going about it the wrong way with the girls he likes, then posts:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 05:35 PM |
| 3 | BP: What do you think of the views expressed in this video?I've been in a relationship like that, and there's a difference between being polite, respectful, and accommodating, and tying your self-worth/happiness to making someone else happy, which can be smothering, IME. This, exactly. I don't want to feel too responsible for someone else's happiness or sense of self-worth. Somewhat responsible, yeah, absolutely, but the "you complete me" bullshit leaves me squeamish. If a significant chunk of someone's time is spent trying to accommodate me and anticip… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 04:58 PM |
| 7 | Male preferences of this sub?every color except white 'Aight. Although this is me clearly flagging snowflake, my deep and abiding love for thick female ass compels me to object. I mean, can a White girl who like girls get a say also? In the off chance that you're ordering up booty for all the female-loving White people in the world, I just wanna make sure you don't get my order wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 03:28 AM |
| 3 | What is your favorite type of porn and does it differ from what you are looking for in a relationship?At risk of "womansplaining"... The term "cognitive dissonance" would be a better fit for a third-wave feminist like myself -- feminists who reconcile their arousal in response to fictional depictions of sexualized violence by adopting a pro-kink, sex-positive stance. It's a term that refers to the dissonance that motivates a shift so that judgments are more -- not less -- in line with behaviors. I think the term you're looking for is "reaction formation." That's the psychoanalytic term for when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 03:06 AM |
| 7 | Q4W: are women's turn offs stronger than their turn ons? Share your turn off tales!I think I have more behavioral turn-ons than turn-offs. I just wish this was true of superficial physical traits as well; a high voice, for example, or extremely small feet -- these things should not logically be problems. I mean, why on earth should I care if somebody's a size 4 men's? And why should that bother me more than a small dick? I don't even like feet. But my pussy doesn't seem to give a fuck about fairness, expediency, or political correctness. Try as I might, I can't logic myself we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 02:37 AM |
| 1 | How many of you actually deal with any gender/pill stuff IRL? Feminist sightings? PUA/MRA sightings?In NorCal I fell in with a group of sober, kinky, artsy, mostly-Vegan, mostly-Wiccan, tattoo-sporting, pronoun-specifying, Oakland-gentrifying feminists. They were about as Tumblr as you can get in terms of values but far more varied in terms of temperament. There was one person whom I really didn't like -- brittle and judgmental, typifying manosphere assumptions. Then there were a few super chill old-timers with crazy stories about heroine addiction. Among them was another person whom I crushed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/17 08:53 PM |
| 1 | What type of woman would have the highest SMV? Link to pictures if you want. For research.Jesus fuck. God bless that girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/17 05:49 PM |
| 3 | TBP is a hate sub: An exampleone is not born a democrat You obviously have not met my family. But no, in all seriousness, I agree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/17 05:32 PM |
| 6 | What are everyone's sex/relationship new years resolutions?Make more AA meetings (in part so as not to leave my friends feeling too responsible for my emotional wellbeing.) Mail Christmas presents (Because, yeah, I'm that fucking lazy. I figure, maintaining contacts in Detroit will leave me more grounded now that I'm back on the East Coast.) Get a regular exercise routine going again. It doesn't change how I look so much as it changes for I feel about my body. In the event of a breakup, ensure that I can leave my boyfriend better (or, at least, more ful… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/17 07:23 PM |
| 2 | What are everyone's sex/relationship new years resolutions?Yeah, it's different for different people. I know a lot of people who gained weight when they quit drinking. As thekitchenwytch said: food can often serve as a substitute for alcohol. I lost weight myself (fewer empty calories) but increased my cigarette consumption (because, obviously, I needed something unhealthy to do while angry.) The fact that I have since phased out cigarettes makes me optimistic about shoup88's weight-related resolution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/17 06:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no safe way to have drunk sex with someone you have never met before.Haha. Yeah, keep in mind, this story is third hand, not second hand. I probably fucked up the retelling too. When people recall shit, time tends to get compressed -- we hit the interesting points and gloss over interim periods. This goes double for someone retelling somebody else's story. Most likely, my bad: as a civilian with a short attention span, there's a good chance I butchered the chronology. I feel a bit guilty actually; the guy's not identifiable but, regardless of whether or not he wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/17 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Having a low SMV does not make you an oppressed minorityThis is fantastic. I responded to another comment of yours prior to reading this one. Now I'm left thinking about the unique problems faced by neuroatypical males (as opposed to neuroatypical females) when it comes inferring romantic and sexual boundaries. Not to imply that neuroatypical females have it easy by any means! But, in a society that still places the burden of initiating sexual contact on males, socially obtuse or otherwise awkward guys do face a special dilemma, like you said. While … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/16 11:18 PM |
| 4 | Having a low SMV does not make you an oppressed minorityHave you thought of rolling that into a broader movement? I don't mean to invalidate the pain of having low SMV. I just think people will be faster to accept it as a valid problem if we connect it to problems that we've already (at least somewhat) accepted as valid and worthy of attention. I see a couple of avenues, based on what FAs have said on this subreddit. You could connect it to the marriage between men's lib and body acceptance, arguing that men shouldn't be judged based solely on appear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/16 10:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: riding the CC is good for future relationshipsDude, have you ever even tried to out-drink a Dane? They're still warriors at heart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/16 10:05 PM |
| 3 | CMV: riding the CC is good for future relationshipsEssentialism describes a bias in which you assign traits as necessary to someone's identity. For example: "All rural Polish-Americans like pasties (not the nipple pasties but the delicious dumpling-like pasties.) If someone claiming to be a rural Polish-American does not like pasties, then they are not a true rural Polish-American." In other words, essentialism couples heuristic biases with the no true Scotsman fallacy. Essentialism does not refer to a desire to know the cultural context from wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/16 08:56 PM |
| 7 | CMV: riding the CC is good for future relationshipsStrongly seconded! It's gotten to the point where I've started wishing people prefaced things. Like, "as a rural Mid-Western 20-something of Polish descent" or "as a gay British ex-pat living in Belgium." I do the same sometimes but I think it just comes off sounding self-absorbed. I mean, as a white, female, bisexual, 31-year-old, North-Eastern US liberal who lived a significant chunk of her adult life in California's Bay Area, I relate to about 10% of what's said on here about dating and gende… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/16 04:20 PM |
| 6 | If you could say one sentence to your eighteen year old self regarding sex and relationships what would it be and why?That is far beyond sketchy, past creepy, well into shitty, and teetering on the border of rapey. Sorry you had to deal with such bullshit in your teens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 06:47 PM |
| 3 | If you could say one sentence to your eighteen year old self regarding sex and relationships what would it be and why?"Stop it. No, fucking stop it. You'll be fine." Can't recall precisely what I was doing or why but I'm still pretty sure this is the right advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Your personality type and where you fall as Red/Purple/BlueAw bless. Thank you! I will attempt to harness your TJ-ness so as to master the rules governing Spanish verb conjugations. Or maybe the redness is more useful -- if I'm alpha enough, I can just speak bad Spanish without giving a fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 06:15 AM |
| 3 | Your personality type and where you fall as Red/Purple/BlueLol. That is so typical of an INTP, from the wishy-washy purple label, down to the distrust of models that seem way too simple for your tastes. Shit. You've just made me realize that every comment I've posted on the PPD can be prefaced with "as someone high in perceiving rather than judging..." I mean, maybe, instead of continuously typing out the phrase "I suspect it's more nuanced than that" in response to every fucking CMV, I could just type the letter "P" as a shorthand. Or maybe I could jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Your personality type and where you fall as Red/Purple/BlueI'm ENFP; bluish grey in terms of pill color. The Meyers-Briggs is fun to think about but I second HigHog's criticisms. Personally, I prefer the Big Five. In contrast to the Myers-Briggs (which was developed based on Jungian theory with no initial grounding in data), the Big Five was developed from the bottom up, taking a lexical approach. Basically, they applied factor analysis to various human languages, seeing how words that described personality traits clustered in terms of synonyms and anto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 04:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no safe way to have drunk sex with someone you have never met before.Yeah, black-outs can be scary for everyone involved. It's also sometimes hard to tell when a stranger is black-out drunk, especially if you're close to black-out drunk yourself. I can imagine how a failure in judgment might lead to a lifetime on the registry. On the other hand, I have a lot of empathy for the victims in these cases. I knew a guy with military sexual trauma (MST). A fellow service member raped him while he was blacked-out. He woke up to blood where there shouldn't have been blood… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/16 10:07 PM |
| 5 | CMV: There is no safe way to have drunk sex with someone you have never met before.What you're alluding to now is, I think, a far more complex and contentious issue. The original CMV, that "drunk sex with strangers is risky", was (at least in my mind) refreshingly clear cut. It's always nice to be able to just respond "no shit" or "here, here!" without any ifs, ands, or buts. As for sexual assault cases... In the US at least, the burden of proof is already on the plaintiffs and not on the accused. While the rationale behind this makes sense from a legal perspective, it does pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/16 04:52 PM |
| 10 | CMV: There is no safe way to have drunk sex with someone you have never met before.This post sort of reads like "The road rules for motorbikes on freeways confuse me; therefore, motorbike freeway driving is unsafe." To which I'd answer: "Sure, there are inherently more risks to freeways, as well as more risks to motorbikes. And if the road rules themselves confuse you sometimes, that ups the risks immensely. So for fuck's sake, by all means, don't bike on the freeway -- at least until you get a better sense of the road rules." Consent is sometimes a murky subject. Intoxication… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/16 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Will automation 'attack' concepts of traditional masculinity into the future?Ah. Well, I can't speak for her, but I guess I did read the comment differently than you did. To me, familiarity breeds contempt. I jump at the chance to make blanket disses on people in my own industry. It doesn't mean I hate any individual psychologists. I just means I love hating on psychologists generally. So, yeah, not a very laudable impulse, but probably not personal either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/16 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Will automation 'attack' concepts of traditional masculinity into the future?Huh. This makes a lot of sense. I mean, I'm sure there are multiple factors at play; however, increased industrial automization has corresponded with more extreme and stringent standards around male musculature. It used to be that men didn't need well-defined muscles to be considered physically fit: if you could lift a bag of coal or swing a pick-ax, you were set. I hadn't thought much about how automization might play into the changing standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/16 12:55 AM |
| 4 | Will automation 'attack' concepts of traditional masculinity into the future?Alright. While I do happen to agree with you, how is what you just said a valid counterpoint? When your argument devolves into ad hominem attacks, you deprive people like me the pleasure of backing you up, either via circle-jerking comments or upvotes. I mean, people here will testify, I'm big on circle jerking. But now I can't join your jerk circle :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/16 12:44 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women aren't going to "shit test" men they are attracted to or respectHow do you define shit-testing? Some of the examples here just sound like straight-forward communication (depending, of course, on the tone and context -- no statement is inherently, across-the-board straightforward.) In any case, I'm going to attempt to C your V, even without a good working definition of shit-test. Once I decide someone has long term potential, I'll inevitably tell a few dumb stories about my past that fall somewhere between humble brags and an embarrassing confessions (example… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 09:23 PM |
| 0 | Q4Women: What do you find attractive in menWhile I'm actually sort of flattered that you've been reading my post history, you mustn't be reading very closely to have to speculate about whether or not I'm a feminist. Consider my feminism confirmed; you are conversing with your own boogey(wo)man. I'm not going to argue with you on the height thing though. That must be tough. And, like you, I tend to get more pissed off about a problem when people try to tell me that it isn't a problem. So, if I spent a good portion of my time on Reddit try… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4Feminists: Do you think the anti-feminists in PPD have a good understanding of feminist terms and concepts?Do you remember if we've had this conversation together before? I'm sorry; I'm not sure how to search my comment history. In any case, whether or not we've talked about it already, it's a good conversation to keep having. The phrase "toxic masculinity" is unfortunate because it's easily misinterpreted to mean that masculinity is toxic; however, the underlying idea (a set of harmful standards and assumptions around maleness) has been extremely helpful to me. When I think about the expectations th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 04:33 PM |
| 5 | Q4Feminists: Do you think the anti-feminists in PPD have a good understanding of feminist terms and concepts?I really like this idea! But, to truly ensure equivalence, we'd have to parse toxic femininity in terms of societal expectations that are damaging to women when internalized. Then, once we've described it that way, we can use it to better understand shitty behavior. Defining it straight-up as shitty behavior would miss an important step. We already have language to talk about women (and men) acting shitty. The cool thing about the definition of toxic masculinity -- not the phrase itself (which I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 04:22 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What do you find attractive in menFirst impressions: computers. I'm not proud of this. I do tend to stereotype. Upon browsing your post-history: male model, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were studying something on the side. Assuming my second guess is correct, I gotta give you a lot of credit for challenging my biases! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What do you find attractive in menWell, I have a math minor and have always felt ambivalent about choosing the social sciences over STEM. Add to that an electra complex and a twisted desire to pass on my genetic lineage; my father, his brother, and both paternal grandparents were successful mathematicians; when dad met mom, she was studying math too. So I laugh about my dad's side breeding for mathematicians but I'm not entirely joking. Furthermore, as a very tentative thinker who places a lot of weight on other people's emotion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What do you find attractive in menWow, are you alright? I get a sense this isn't about me. In any case, seems like there's a miscommunication. The post said "what do you find attractive in men," not "what are requisite qualities." I've dated all kinds but this is about preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 05:54 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations?Social Justice Warrior (SJW) is currently a derogatory term for vocal social progressives. Your question led me to the Wikipedia article which has a cool section on the history of the term as well. I can never decide if I identify that way as an acknowledgement of moral fallibility or as a means of reappropriating the term from alt-right folks. Maybe I do it for both reasons in different contexts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations?I think claiming that women in general have as high a sex drive as men is ridiculous Yeah, I'm becoming more and more accepting the existence of biologically determined behavioral sex differences -- just as long as we're talking in aggregates (plenty of outliers, etc., etc.) I mean, I appreciate that the actions of sex hormones are very complicated and person-specific; however, it's hard to deny differences in sex drive after having watched trans friends' libidos increase while on testosterone. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 01:36 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations?If you both do, would you hit me up too? I read both your responses and the only thing we differ on is gun control. Even then, the difference seems negotiable. My biggest concern is that lobbyists have hindered research into gun violence, meaning that we honestly don't know which preventative measures might be effective. At the same time, I don't agree with people who oppose hunting on moral or environmental grounds. At risk of trivializing an important topic: hunting sounds fun and we really ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations?That is an amazing quote. And your link led me to another article by the same author. It hit uncomfortably close to home but in a good way. Thanks for the good reads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 12:51 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations?Yeah, I think that's true of any ideological or cultural movement: we all want to distance ourselves from the stereotypes but we're also all bound to fulfill at least a couple. I've never used Tumblr but I've had my Tumbrina moments. Then there are also times I've felt like Susan Brownmiller in this interview, shaking my head at modern feminism, thinking back to an idealized, mythical time when the feminist movement was without ambiguities. Everyone fits political stereotypes sometimes, even if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations?I found this comment oddly cathartic, sort of like Stewart Lee's bit on political correctness. Your last paragraph leaves off where he picks up. There's definitely an either-or problem with political correctness these days: either you're a fanatic or a detractor. It's hard to make a nuanced point without being labeled one way or the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations?Way to abridge what could be a book-length-long response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: what don't you like about your own flare color and/or political affiliations?Ha!!! This reads like an incisive parody of the shit that I write about over-educated liberals. Have a reluctant but well-earned up-vote and go fuck yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 09:13 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What do you find attractive in menI don't know if I should be afraid or not that I fit most of what you find attractive. As I am pretty close to it which scares me actually. Don't worry; we'll probably never meet. And, if you are indeed my type, that doesn't mean that you can't be some other woman's type as well. Especially when it comes to downstairs which I been debating on telling women before the deed and not let them discover it during the deed. I'm not sure if you're thinking about length or girth or both here. I won't inv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 08:15 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: What do you find attractive in menFor me personally, it's a safety thing. If someone seems to have their shit together emotionally, I'll compare myself unfavorably to them while questioning their ability to relate to me -- much easier to cope with another person's problems than with my own private insecurities. As much as I'd like to trust happy, sensible people, neuroses and questionable judgment always give me a pleasant sense of connectedness. My ideal is a superficially stoic man with a lot of competing feelings underneath -… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What do you find attractive in menHeh. Well, to be fair, my interactions here are all text-based. I just tend to like men and women who disagree with me but who then can still keep a good conversation going. Were someone here to mention that they have a finite Erdős number, a government contract to counter cyber terrorism, or a multi-player-Texas-Hold'em AI program which is capable of perfect play, that's when it would switch from "like" to "like-like." I'm depressingly hypergamous when it comes to the STEM sciences, even though… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 05:53 PM |
| 4 | Q4 WOMEN attracted to men taller than them...do you mean slightly taller or do you mean extremely taller?Sorry, to clarify the original question: height is only important in so far as I prefer men three or more inches or more taller than me. I'm 5'5" so 5'8" is fine and, at 5"11', the appeal of tallness plateaus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 05:04 PM |
| 4 | Q4 WOMEN attracted to men taller than them...do you mean slightly taller or do you mean extremely taller?Okay, because I have no life... Here is a graph. I calculated my attraction to a man as a function with the x axis in meters tall and the y axis as subjective SMV rating out of 10 (assuming the man's pretty close to an ideal match in all other respects). Please note the graph doesn't apply to giants as I am not very attracted to giants. It does, however, work for little people. As you can see from the slight blip around 3'0", I've always been somewhat curious about attractive little people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 04:46 PM |
| 4 | Q4Women: What do you find attractive in menPhysically, I like thick eyebrows, a strong jaw, broad shoulders, a deep voice, visible muscles, and a happy trail leading down from the navel. Like many females, I prefer taller males but girth means more than length when it comes to appendages. Psychologically, I like men who are irreverent, intelligent, curious, thrill-seeking, socially disinhibited, incongruously shy, sexually flexible, mathematically gifted, and emotionally "deep" (which might just be a more polite way of saying "damaged.") | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?Okay, last comment and then I promise I'll fuck off: Two girls are exponentially hotter than one for the same reason that listening to early Pink Floyd in stereo is infinitely better than listening to it in mono. If you love something, you wanna admire it in its entirety. A sexually assertive girl riding cowgirl or a submissive girl on her knees each only represent a fraction of what's truly hot about women. Straight porn is like an instrumental solo. Lesbian porn is the entire rock band. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?Ah, sorry. I misunderstood when you said "most women dislike gays." But, yeah, returning to the OP, I don't think there's anything weird about straight guys liking lesbian sex. It's pussy in stereo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 06:02 PM |
| 2 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?Show me a place where people openly drool on guys kissing C'mon man. I could post links but we both know you wouldn't wanna click them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?Damn, that's a strong rec coming from you. I can't imagine you liking Gore Vidal unless his shit is genuinely brilliant. He just seems so utterly... not RP(?) If only I could disengage from Reddit long enough to educate myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?While I get wanting to stick to the topic of your original post, you did sort of initiate this derail with your assertion that most women hate gay men. So, on the one hand, I'm curious where all these gay-male-hating females come from. But I'm also happy to honor your wishes with silence if you want to stop responding to my off-topic posts. Your call. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?Alright, I'll defer to you on Renault. I never read her stuff. All that pederasty sounded too ereudite for my tastes. And I do absolutely love blaming Japan for weird porn. That recent Tweak X Craig South Park episode was hilarious. The Japanese have clearly cornered the market in female-friendly gay male erotica. Unfortunately, if we're being honest, we can't just blame Japan. Slash fan-fiction seems to have arisen among English-speaking trekkies as early as the 1970s. women NEVER rented gay po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 05:32 PM |
| 3 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?most women dislike gays Is it alright to ask where you're located? This sounds like a very culturally specific thing. The only place that I've encountered an openly homophobic woman in the last 6 years was the American Mid-West. Otherwise, all my female friends are either aroused or indifferent toward gay male sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?The female interest in gay male stuff from Japan is generationally novel Maybe the female interest in visual depictions of gay male sex is recent but the written romance and erotica has been around for almost as long as the concept of homosexuality as an identity. For example, Mary Renault was writing popular gay male romance already in the early '50s. I know about her because my mom, as a teenager in the late '50s and early '60s, read a lot of Renault's gay historic novels. Fast forward 5 decad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?Most women wouldn't fuck a flamboyant gay who took it up his ass a moment earlier. It's not about a guy being "flamboyant." For me personally, it's quite the opposite. Crazy Larry in Layer Cake said it best. That shit takes testosterone. Anyway, why do men get such boners for women doing other women? I'm more interested in op not in "some women do it too". Short of psychological research, the only effective means that I have of understanding others is empathy. And, since, as far as I can tell, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 04:36 PM |
| 4 | Q4WOMEN: Would you die for your man?Hell no! I mean, I think Atlas made a good distinction: I'd risk my life for my significant other (and hope that he'd do likewise). But I've never yet dated anybody whom I'd die for. I'm fortunate to have very caring and still-living parents. I suspect they'd be angry if I sacrificed my life for anybody, be it one of them, a lover, or a public figure. Even without good parents, I suspect I'd be too cowardly to choose death; however, with them around, it seems like dying would be especially ungra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 06:59 PM |
| 2 | What would you do if your daughter in college was slacking off in school, and spending all her time partying and hooking up?Extracurriculars build character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 10:48 PM |
| 2 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesYou think that you know more about business than him? No, I absolutely do not know more about business than Trump. Trump is an expert when is comes to bankruptcy. He fucking used his charitable foundation to violate tax laws and got away with it. He's got a unique and impressive skill set. But the fact Trump knows more about business than the two of us combined is irrelevant. By way of an example, you don't need an MD to realize when a doctor doesn't give a shit about his patients' welfare. If h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 09:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesPeople should stick to cultivating virtues which transcend race and gender. Cultivating virtues that transcend race and gender is the ideal. Identity politics stem from the uncomfortable reality that not everybody looks the same or shares the same perspective. Humans are complicated. But that doesn't negate your original point: we all tend to value certain things. It's important that we don't lose sight of the core values that we share, even as we explore the differences between us. I've seen wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 08:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesWell, as I said to Exit_Sandman, I'm not egotistical enough to think that I, as an individual, had any real impact on the election. Nor do I think my self-identifications are complete bullshit. For example, four years' sobriety took a lot of effort. And me being a North Eastern Liberal is just a fact, whether I like calling myself that or not. But, yeah, fuck it, I care more about how Trump's personal business dealings will pervert American foreign policy than I do about Facebook's non-gender-bi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 08:05 PM |
| 5 | What would you do if your daughter in college was slacking off in school, and spending all her time partying and hooking up?Bahh. Fuckin' socialist bastard. Don't you know that accruing crippling debt is a right of passage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 12:59 PM |
| 8 | What would you do if your daughter in college was slacking off in school, and spending all her time partying and hooking up?My dad fielded exactly this situation. I was in a very emotionally unhealthy place during my Freshmen year. First semester, I showed him a transcript of Bs and Cs, genuinely relived that I wasn't flunking. He knew that, for me, Bs and Cs meant slacking, but he also knew that I was young and kind of a dumbass. So he said two things. First, "yeah, congrats on not flunking" (I can't remember his exact words -- he just managed to briefly acknowledge my relief without sounding patronizing). Then he t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 12:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesHeh. Fuck, that word. Yeah, she was triggered, quietly and with dignity. Nobody was shamed, no one who hadn't opted in to the private conversation was left feeling obligated to empathize with her, and no conversations were interrupted to broadcast her distress. Assault survivors do get triggered. Childhood abuse survivors get triggered. Fucking tough-as-nails War Veterans get triggered. The fact that the word itself is overused to the point of being funny doesn't mean that it doesn't describe a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 12:33 PM |
| 0 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakeseven if it doesn't give you "status" inside the SJW community as such, it certainly gives you power in a discourse Alright, this is a solid point. There's a distinction between something that affords status within a social hierarchy and something that's used as a means of policing people who exist outside of that hierarchy. But, unlike you, I don't see a simple solution. "Intersectionality" is invaluable as an idea. It speaks to the complexities of identity politics. Scrap the concept and we ret… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 12:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesI'm not egocentric enough to believe that the labels that I apply to myself actually matter as much to anybody else, let alone that they matter enough to sway election results. But, yeah, more generally, your point stands. If one good thing comes out of the 2016 election, it'll be the opportunity for reflection. Among my friends (an admittedly small sample size), shit went down a lot like this SNL skit. Black and brown people, and the White people who were less insulated within liberal communiti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 11:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesand we seen how that plays out Man, if it had a chance of reversing the 2016 election results, I'd rescind every identity-related label that I've assumed over the years. No more being sober, kinky, Domme-leaning, bisexual, atheist, feminist, socialist, over-privileged, and a North Eastern Liberal Democrat. If it could get rid of Trump, I'd gladly scale back to identifying as nothing more than female and human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 06:54 AM |
| -1 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesI've spent a lot of time in the queer recovery community. If the victimhood olympics existed like people claim that it exists, I'd be connoisseur of the sport, if not a professional contender. But flagging victimhood -- or "survivorship" (victimhood's healthy cousin) -- does not seem to earn you much in the way of genuine social status among SJWs. Social skills earn you social status. Victimhood just earns you obligatory expressions of empathy, sometimes followed by a shift in conversation topic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 06:24 AM |
| -1 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesPeople can have all kinds of personal reactions (both positive and negative) to events like TBTN. This is true regardless of the the movement's intent. But the fact that these events trigger negative reactions in some people is secondary to the fact that they draw attention to uncomfortable issues that need to be considered and discussed. For example, in the case of my friend, she ended up getting a lot of shit off her chest that night. Were I to guess, I'd say it had a positive impact on her, e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 05:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesThis exactly. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 08:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men, in aggregate, are inferior to women.Jesus Christ. Those stats make me feel better about myself but you're also absolutely right: it must be miserable for them without a fancy piece of paper to fall back on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Mainstream articles are acknowledging RP truths - distinction between alphas and betas, and the overall rise of female hypergamy. Does this prove RP right?Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Mainstream articles are acknowledging RP truths - distinction between alphas and betas, and the overall rise of female hypergamy. Does this prove RP right?Having a kink and being monogamous are not mutually exclusive. I do worry that our sexual interests are becoming more siloed as a result of almost constant access to a wide range of pornographic materials. On the other hand, I'm reassured that we're becoming more open and nonjudgmental about sex. Kinks can be inconvenient (latex is expensive and splosh fetishes involve clean-up) but they shouldn't be relationship deal breakers, especially if you can find a compatible sexual partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 08:18 PM |
| 4 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesYeah. Thanks for making the distinction between "victim" and "survivor." That need to be said. I agree with you. At the same time, I do empathize with her. I got angry at a sexual assault survivor once. If you'd asked me about it at the time, I'd have said she was being divisive within my social circle, demanding that her boyfriend not socialize with friends of the ex who assaulted her. But my anger vanished when I remembered that I'd been sexually assaulted in a similar manner by a high school … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 08:12 PM |
| 6 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesThank you! Strongly agreed! One of my favorite things about this subreddit is that constructive conversations occur across party lines. It's too easy to blanket disagree (or disagree) based on gender, politics, or flare color. Labels like "feminist" should provide background to contextualize opinions, not shut down conversations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 07:02 PM |
| 17 | CMV: (Most) Anti-feminist women are attention seeking snowflakesAlright. I suspect I'll catch some flak from both sides with this one... It feels weird to defend self-avowed "anti-feminists" as a feminist myself. But I knew a girl was vocally anti-feminist and I liked her a lot, even as I disagreed with her. The word "snowflake" suggests someone who's brittle; however, this girl was tough and very difficult to offend. As humans, we all have a tendency to assume that shit is about us. Straight men therefore will often conclude that women do things for their b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Mainstream articles are acknowledging RP truths - distinction between alphas and betas, and the overall rise of female hypergamy. Does this prove RP right?I've heard that some second-wave feminists made similar arguments about female masochists, describing them as victims of a society that teaches females to eroticize their own abuse. In contrast, I think that, for something to be truly dysfunctional, it has to cause distress, harm, or impairment. Cucks and hotwifers can make their kinks work in their favor (as can female masochists). Because many possess the emotional resilience and interpersonal skills necessary to build mutually satisfying rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Mainstream articles are acknowledging RP truths - distinction between alphas and betas, and the overall rise of female hypergamy. Does this prove RP right?Right. No, I think we're in agreement here. There's a big difference between consuming cuckold/hot-wife porn versus actually enacting one's fetishes. My point is that these tend to be male-driven fantasies. Whether we're talking about the porn or the lifestyle, these things say more about married men's desires and insecurities than they do about married women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 04:30 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men, in aggregate, are inferior to women."Aggregate" implies that we're discussing something tangible or quantifiable. "Good" and "bad" are ill-defined and therefore unquantifiable. You do a good job referencing widely-accepted statistics, which are indeed based on aggregate data, but you fail to explain how these statistics are connected to the concepts of "good" and "bad." Your post is interesting overall but, to fully flesh out your argument, you'll need to do a lot more legwork than just toss the word "aggregate" around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 05:27 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men, in aggregate, are inferior to women.Hey, I get the reasons someone might break the rules to downvote this CMV; were is on another (doubtlessly inferior) subreddit, I'd downvote it myself. But can we please not? It's sparked some good conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 05:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men, in aggregate, are inferior to women.Shit, thanks for reading all of it! Came out longer than I'd intended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 05:06 PM |
| 4 | Mainstream articles are acknowledging RP truths - distinction between alphas and betas, and the overall rise of female hypergamy. Does this prove RP right?Arguing that trends toward cuckolding and hot-wifing confirm male fears regarding hypergamy is like arguing that the Big Black Cock phenomenon confirm White fears regarding Black male hyper-sexuality. The Mandingo and BBC stereotypes are driven by the sexual desires and fears of White people, not Black people. Some Black guys do try to make the best of these stereotypes in the name of sexual release, just like some women genuinely enjoy fulfilling the desires of their cuckhold/hotwifing husbands… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:33 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men, in aggregate, are inferior to women.Define inferior. 1) Men do have higher rates of certain developmental disabilities and therefore may, in aggregate, have more academic difficulty; however, many people who had severe academic problems in K12 (people such as myself) develop special skills as a means to cope. I personally therefore believe that the benefits of neurodiversity outweigh the costs. 2) Men are more likely to externalize distress, acting out instead of becoming visibly depressed or anxious. The men and women who externa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Does feminist women mocking small dicks actually validate TRPs theory about status?Oh no I have a feminist in my inbox sending me racist PMs because I'm Asian :) Man, that is some fucked up shit! I'm glad the r/thebluepill mods stepped up. As a feminist myself, I'm tempted to ask if your troll self-identified as feminist. Some people seem to define "feminist" as either a female who acts shittily toward males or a male who defends such behavior. Needless to say, this muddies the debate, turning the assertion that all feminists are mean into a tautology. But I'm not going to ask… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 08:55 PM |
| 0 | Does feminist women mocking small dicks actually validate TRPs theory about status?feminist women always mock people calling them virgins and small dicks Are we sure that this is something feminists always do? (Or even often do? I certainly hope it isn't.) I'm not small but the angry feminist I was talking to kept using small dick nicknames all over the place, so I got curious now I'm sorry. That sounds like a legitimately shitty debate. If you still want to debate a feminist, hit me up. Fuck it -- I'd place myself as a mediocre representative of the feminist movement at best.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (04 December 2016)'Aight. Fuck it. I wrote some Chad fanfic. I didn't want to but y'all left me no choice. The only other source of Chad-related fiction on Reddit are those first-person erotic narratives on the TRP. I wanted something with more realism and pathos. Apologies to everybody in advance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 05:33 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP: How common is this type of behavior among women?Are you comfortable elaborating on your experiences? I mean, that teenage girl in the story you cited did a lot of different things that I'd find obnoxious. I can't tell if you're thinking more about the sexism, the bi-phobia, the hot-and-cold behavior, or the vindictiveness in sharing private business with others. All and all, I second TheChemist158: the behavior of a teenage female with mental health issues might not be the best model for adult females' behavior. It makes me wonder what hits c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 11:50 PM |
| 4 | Q4BP: How common is this type of behavior among women?"Human" is a mental illness. With that said, I love your flare. Seems like there'd be a good story behind it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Who is Chad?What does he look like? Chad looks like a smiling face from a toothpaste commercial plastered across a body from a military eugenics project. He's clear-eyed, small-nosed, square-jawed, broad-shouldered, slim-hipped, fat-cocked, and gym-bodied. How does he speak? Chad speaks like a White boy who's appropriated precisely enough hip hop to signal the heft of his sexual endowment without detracting from his mid-to-high socio-economic status. Except in a court of law: in a court of law, Chad speaks … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Male Sexuality and How Shame Hurts Everyone - ArticleTraditionally, since masculine values were already so culturally engrained, there was no need to legitimize them. Feminists therefore usually argued in favor of feminine values, not as a means of replacing masculine values, but as a supplement to them. Think of it as like somebody waxing poetic about the benefits of vitamin A; they probably think vitamin C is awesome too, they just worry people aren't getting enough A in their diet. You don't have to agree with them on the whole vitamin A thing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Male Sexuality and How Shame Hurts Everyone - ArticleWhile the ideal male figure of the past might have been a cowboy, or a settler, or a pioneer, it shifted during the 20th century. This was the result of people from different cultures immigrating to the United States and started influencing the culture away from chivalric provincialism more towards urban thuggery and mobsterism. Huh. This is fascinating! Having lived most of my life in cities, I'd argue that their are some positive aspects of embracing the masculinity of mobsters, rather than co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Male Sexuality and How Shame Hurts Everyone - ArticleHmm. Well, this was psychological research that she was doing, and that point about androgyny was one finding from her research. So, while she did end up asserting that androgyny was ideal, she came at her work with the presupposition that traditional masculinity encompassed some positive traits such as leadership ability. Unsurprisingly, she found that the absolute worst is to be undifferentiated (neither masculine or feminine). That means it's always healthier to be masculine than to not be ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 06:12 PM |
| 6 | Male Sexuality and How Shame Hurts Everyone - ArticleSandra Bem's work on androgyny is a good example of a feminist acknowledging the inherently positive aspects of traditional masculinity. In a nutshell: her research suggested that it's psychologically healthiest to embody both feminine and masculine traits (and least healthy to embody neither). If you're curious, you can take various versions of the Bem sex role inventory online for fun (I especially liked this variation). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 01:45 PM |
| 9 | Male Sexuality and How Shame Hurts Everyone - ArticleI gotta strongly second BiggerDthanYou on this. (Fucking loved the avalanche metaphor.) "Toxic masculitity" is an unfortunate term for a real and important concept. It does not (or, at least, should not) be interpreted to mean that masculinity is toxic. Instead, it refers to a set of beliefs and expectations about maleness that are damaging to men. Shit like "real men can never be victims" -- it's those gendered expectations that often prevent male sexual assault and domestic violence survivors … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 11:58 AM |
| 3 | Male Sexuality and How Shame Hurts Everyone - ArticleGreat article! Thanks for posting! I do think you took that last quote out of context though. Here it is again if you continue reading down to the "but" clause in the next paragraph: I don't think we're supposed to run around being Manic Pixie Dream Girls freeing the men in our lives from their psychological burdens. [...] But I do think it is important for people in relationships to create a safe space for their partners to be truthful and authentic in talking about their desires, and to do so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Pornography: good or bad?Yeah, thanks for the response! Exceptions to the norm are most important to other people who are exceptions from the norm. For example, my ability to find a compatible sexual partner sort of hinges on exceptions to the norm (or, at least, exceptions to what's expected). I really appreciate you not just flat-out calling me a snowflake! Among my female friends, it's not uncommon to watch porn. The PPD is therefore a good reality check. I've lived a lot of my adult life in a progressive, kink-frien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Pornography: good or bad?Coming late to the conversation but, when I read "porn" in the post title, I had to weigh in seconding sarahc1995. Women are frequently porn consumers, even when you don't count sexually explicit written erotica. We clearly don't drive the market like men do, and we're not always very vocal about our porn habits, but we still tend to have our own opinions and preferences. Personally, I tend toward straight Gonzo-style hardcore, bara manga, and light BDSM. Beyond a slight trend toward written ero… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 12:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pillers should be less hateful of feminism because it helps them get laid!Theres always the idea of returning to a traditional form of dating and marriage. . you know the one that didn't end with a horde of single mothers on the government dime. Sorry, I'm confused. Are you complaining about a shift away from traditional morality or about how some single-parent households' utilization of government services might pose an economic burden? If your concern is about the former, fair enough; values are subjective. However, if you're looking to make an argument involving po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Have any of y'all ever met a feminist (who was loud and outright about it) in real life?I fucking love the idea of being "mates" with Germaine Greer! Makes me miss the camradery of pub culture in Oz and the UK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Have any of y'all ever met a feminist (who was loud and outright about it) in real life?A lot of my friends would self-identify as feminist but only a few are vocal about it. I write about being a feminist on Reddit because I got discouraged reading circle jerks where people inflexibly bashed one another's viewpoints. I figure: I'm enough of an asshole to unapologetically drop the 8-letter f-bomb (which can be very triggering to some folks in the manosohere) but not quite insensitive enough to fulfill all the stereotypes that people ascribe to that label. Anyway, it's hard to deter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Question for everyone: Would you have sex with someone you knew was married?Blue-grey pill here. Just casting my "yes" vote. I tried the whole adultery thing in undergrad, albeit under some strange circumstances. I was coming out of a lesbian LTR with my high-school sweetheart when we met. He was my Dominican landlord's muscular, heavily-inked, dyslexic little brother. His wife, who lived in the projects with her family, didn't seem to want anything to do with him. Although I maintain that he was a terrific rebound, there was a lot more going on than I initially assumed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 02:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Red Pillers should be less hateful of feminism because it helps them get laid!Nah, that makes a lot of sense. As I was writing about the food comparison in my response to you, I was at the same time remembering what it felt like to be anorexic. When your body is starved for something, you obsess hard about it. I couldn't even read a book -- my attention would keep jumping back to food, calories consumed, my next meal, how to dodge my family's scrutiny while continuing to starve myself, what it might be like to give in... It was fucking toxic, and that misery was self-infl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 07:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pillers should be less hateful of feminism because it helps them get laid!I guess because I wrote a long post and you responded so briefly, I had trouble figuring out what had you bothered. Anyway, as a female, it's easy for me to sit around with my abundance mentality and my surplus of sexual opportunities, telling men to go elsewhere for a sense of validation. There's no way I'm convincing you of shit. Fortunately, you probably don't need convincing. I mean, I doubt you literally base your entire sense of self-worth on amount of pussy scored. That would be a very na… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 06:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pillers should be less hateful of feminism because it helps them get laid!Not doable. Not doable that guys will stop wanting to up their n-count or not doable that guys will stop basing their self-worth on their n-count? I'm not arguing against the pursuit of sexual pleasure. Please, pursue pussy, by all means! Just try to find another additional means to measure your success. Think of fucking like eating in that there's no shame in having appetite. Also, trying a variety of food can be great -- all the better to get to know your tastes and share those tastes with oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 06:44 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Claims of Bigotry are an Anecdotal fallacy and hence inconclusiveAs a rule of thumb, the healthiest and most accurate attributions are specific (rather than global) and contextual (rather than fixed). That means we don't generalize out to other people's behavior, nor do we make fixed judgements about someone's identity based on something that they did in a specific context. The cop made a global, fixed assumption, which is generally sloppy and can be downright harmful (especially for somebody who's job description involves walking into ambiguous situations wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 04:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Red Pillers should be less hateful of feminism because it helps them get laid!Thank you! I loved your comment about the RP's "oldest teenager in the house" rhetoric. You see the exact same thing in 12-step programs. The earlier someone's sobriety, the more difficulty they'll have among non-sober people. Anger is common too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 04:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pillers should be less hateful of feminism because it helps them get laid!They avoid creepers who might be their match. When women use the word "creeper," I think the implication is that the guy needs to do some introspection before he can match with anything short of his female equivalent. And, I'd argue, the closest female equivalent that we have to "creeper" is "crazy bitch." Both terms are vague and shitty by virtue of being gendered insults. But at least they're supposed to be comments on personality, not looks. And nobody male or female, however fat, should have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 03:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pillers should be less hateful of feminism because it helps them get laid!And going on tinder getting tall handsome men at a whim. Poor ugly and/or short guys. And poor Melizza Mankins. I doubt she knew how triggering that article would be when circulated within certain subreddits. Honestly, I'm a little jealous of her too. Mankins takes pleasure in casual sexual encounters. For me, that's pretty tricky, and I don't even have the fat shame to contend with. It makes me think she either did a lot of honest self-analysis or a lot of hamstering. In either case, she's earn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 02:45 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Red Pillers should be less hateful of feminism because it helps them get laid!As wedded as I am to the concept of sexual freedom, I can see why it would make some men unhappy, especially if we view sex as a resource. Princeso Bubblegum already alluded to the distinction between an increase of sexual opportunities for the lucky few versus for the majority. Indeed, economic inequality seems to be negatively correlated with subjective wellbeing (source), so this might well also be true of inequality when when it comes to positive sexual experiences. In other words, the bigge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 02:14 PM |
| 2 | How many Red Pillers here associate with the MRA? How many Blue Pillers here associate with Feminism? Either way, please elaborate why.I'm a feminist -- blue if I have to pick a pill. I consider myself feminist (third-wave mostly) because I believe in gender equality, respect the validity of subjective experience (especially with regard to internalized prejudice), am curious about identity politics and intersectionality, and do not consider sexual purity an inherent virtue. With that said, I am also at times uncomfortable with popular feminist rhetoric. I therefore reserve the right to agree with MRAs when they make valid point… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/16 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (27 November 2016)Oh man. This shouldn't be as funny as it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/16 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (27 November 2016)Alright, I need a distraction from reality. Who wants to write some Chad Thundercock fanfiction? Alternately, give me a prompt and I'll write some. I'd follow my own prompt (see above hyperlink) but I doubt anybody wants to read that shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/16 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Q4All, What fictional character do you think represents the traits of an Alpha or Beta the most and why?In Star Wars, Darth Vader is alpha and C-3PO is beta. In the bible, Absalom in the Old Testament is alpha and Peter in the New Testament is beta. With that said, there's a good reason parents name their sons after Peter more than Absalom. In Greek mythology, Zeus is alpha and Ganymede is usually beta; I mean, rarely is he portrayed as saying or doing anything besides getting himself abducted. On the periodic table, uranium is alpha and helium is obviously beta. Among convicted murderers, John Wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 07:45 PM |
| 5 | Q4All, What fictional character do you think represents the traits of an Alpha or Beta the most and why?If somebody writes some alpha x beta fiction in which Chad Thundercock is bottom, I'll up-vote them just on principal. Gilded for a genuinely hot erotic story about the cuck who snapped and Chad's first time taking it. ... I mean, not that I'm into that shit or anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 06:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The problem with believing accusations of rape is that bad sex and rape are often thought of the same and aren't differentiated.While I do want to C your V, I also gotta say: really interesting articles! I found a link to the third one for whoever's interested. When it comes to sexual consent, grey areas do exist. But I'd argue they're more linked to communication (or lack thereof) before and during sex than they are to the sex itself. When I hear "bad sex", I think of courtesy sex, do-it-because-your-partner's-horny sex, and pity sex. Most people have had dull or depressing sexual encounters. But instances of grey-area … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 09:25 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The problem with believing accusations of rape is that bad sex and rape are often thought of the same and aren't differentiated.Strongly seconded on all fronts! Although I doubt anyone believes that bad sex equals rape, the issue is complex enough that both young men and women would benefit from further education on the topic. In order to prevent this from being a complete and total circle jerk on my end, I wanted to say a word on "sexual consent" as part of a school's curriculum. Materials do exist (we used them while running therapy groups for adolescent sex offenders) but they tend to leave more questions than answers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 08:31 PM |
| 3 | Facebook husband shamingAh, okay. While I like to think feminism has done more good than harm, your claim is tough to disprove when you frame it that way. Just don't blame us directly for how unassertive and dissatisfied married women misinterpret feminist rhetoric. We're busy with our weed/masturbation/tofu. (Although I'm drug-free and carnivorous, meaning that I have more time on my schedule for Reddit.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 04:30 AM |
| 2 | AWALT in the Family: Am I seeing too much RP in my sister... who's still young, and has some real developmental issues?Part of my worry isn't just what's happening now, but where it's headed in the future. I know you've said elsewhere that this is about your sister, not you. But, for me personally, when I find myself worrying about someone else's conduct so much that I'm looking into their future, seeking out hypothetical things to worry about, that usually means I'm avoiding some shit in my own life. If I were you, my biggest concern for her would be the potential for sexual assault or otherwise abusive relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 03:54 AM |
| 9 | Facebook husband shamingWhile I think us feminists are often genuinely guilty of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, I also have to second StickItInTheToilet. Facebook shaming a spouse is the sort of passive aggressive bullshit that people pull when they lack assertiveness skills. Assertiveness skills are, at worst, unrelated to feminism (although one could argue that feminism teaches women to be more assertive.) If you really want to stereotype feminists, I'd argue we're generally too busy smoking weed, masturbating, and/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 03:37 AM |
| 1 | AWALT in the Family: Am I seeing too much RP in my sister... who's still young, and has some real developmental issues?Interesting. Yeah, I don't have any siblings myself so it's harder for me to imagine having a vested interest in the wellbeing of a young person whom I didn't intentionally befriend. It sounds as if you care about her even when you don't actually like her (which, I imagine, must be the ideal way to relate to a sibling, difficult as it may be.) My dad was the first to express concern about my drinking. It must have seemed like it was falling on deaf ears to him; it took a long time for me to admi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 03:16 AM |
| 2 | AWALT in the Family: Am I seeing too much RP in my sister... who's still young, and has some real developmental issues?Man, that sucks. I was a socially awkward teenager myself. And, in retrospect, I also sometimes fell back on sexual desirability at times when my personality failed me. Substances were also a problem, although not so much in high school. For me, it wasn't until undergrad that I developed an over-reliance on weed and alcohol to lubricate interpersonal interactions. I'm not saying your sister has a problem just because she's smoking weed (far from it) but, if you're right that she has little in co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 02:18 AM |
| 1 | If not TRP/PUA then whatSocial disabilities are a dating death sentence. I think a combination of negative emotionality and autistic traits is most debilitating from a romantic perspective; autistic traits by themselves are much easier to work with. The "borderline autistic" guys whom I've known to have success romantically were all able to take pleasure in social situations, including the occasional party. They weren't necessarily extroverted but they had sufficient confidence and enthusiasm to compensate for social o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 11:15 PM |
| 13 | Perceptions of men who accept pussy hairI slightly prefer guys who like fur. I tend to assume the pro-fur guys either began sexually experimenting at a younger age than most or are more sexually experienced with nerdy females. It strikes me as the sort of sophisticated preference that's usually born of repeated exposure, sort of like appreciating a good IPA or single malt whisky. With that said, I've also known some awesome guys (and girls) who prefer shaved. And, not having much of a preference myself, I'm happy to change my hairstyl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 11:00 PM |
| 3 | Q4redpillers why do you always discredit a woman's rape accusation , if the accused is white or a frat bro , but immediately beleive them when they accuse refugees ?For you? Always. Just don't tell the American alt-right that I gave them to you. We've tricked them into thinking it's a zero sum game (i.e., your gain is my loss.) That way they hoard their victim points (while simultaneously denying that they have any) out of fear that Black and Hispanic people might steal them. Unfortunately, the alt-right pranked us back by getting Trump elected. As his policies are enacted, the resultant proliferation of victim points will soon constitute America's main exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 04:49 PM |
| 3 | Q4redpillers why do you always discredit a woman's rape accusation , if the accused is white or a frat bro , but immediately beleive them when they accuse refugees ?Also, feminist lefty chicks earn victim points by accusing white males of rape. Am feminist lefty chick. Can confirm. However, there are far easier and less life-destroying ways to earn victim points: having cried upon learning the 2016 election results, for example. I did not cry myself but a friend of a friend of mine is a Black female Muslim and my anxiety on her behalf has earned me 40 victim points. Just 60 more points and I will have enough to redeem for a brand new toaster. Wheareas they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 02:44 PM |
| 3 | If society want to change or to emasculate men, why don't they start from women?Huh. I think your complaint carries weight and Princeso Bubblegum is spot-on about the sex thing. I mean, I like that you're pointing out that both men and women are complicit in upholding toxic masculinity with their damaging and unrealistic standards. Taking it even further, you say that women often play a major role in deciding what is desirable masculine behavior. Furthermore, the male desire for sex incentivizes men to meet straight women's standards. Alright, fair enough. This is where I'd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 03:50 AM |
| 3 | (Q4W) Have you ever felt like you have to act ignorant to be liked?Interesting post! I have three thoughts: 1) on emotional/social intelligence, 2) on talking, and 3) on sexual turn-ons and turn-offs. 1) I'm book smart but socially awkward. I've never felt a pull to play down being book smart; however, I put a lot of weight on life experience. Maybe this serves to put a lot of guys (and some girls) at ease. Even though everyone in my immediate family has a doctorate degree, you can reframe this as a form of naivety. We're square but open-minded. You needn't out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Women Want To Be Approached, But Want To Feel Like It "Just Happened".Huh. You're certainly in a better position to make that claim than I am, and research would indeed suggest a big gender difference. I guess I worry that if we don't acknowledge that equivalent situations with the genders reversed also exist, then we'll all have a harder time intuiting how to respond when an expression of romantic interest turns out to be unwanted. So, like, for me, remembering the times I've been rejected by other women keeps me more honest and respectful when men whom I don't f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Women Want To Be Approached, But Want To Feel Like It "Just Happened".Tru But I do think we as a society have this bullshit assumption that all straight males want to be hit on all the time by all females. Guys can get confused, guilty, or irritated, same as girls, when the attention is unwanted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 05:13 AM |
| 3 | Women Want To Be Approached, But Want To Feel Like It "Just Happened".Being ambivalent about overt expressions of romantic interest from strangers is different from wanting to feel like it "just happened." Nobody (male or female) likes feeling like they're getting mass-spammed by someone out of desperation. Nor do most people (male or female) enjoy saying 'no' to other people. Poorly executed or otherwise unwanted expressions of romantic interest tend to leave people feeling irritated (nobody likes spam) and depressed (most people would rather not overtly reject o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP - isms, ists and phobesBut I gots to validate all teh feelz! (... Which, I'd argue, you're actually doing too in a round-about way. People get upset about being called racist and sexist. By acknowledging the shaming power of these words, we are empathizing with those who have felt marginalized for using non-PC language, thereby encouraging diversity and inclusivity within the public discourse.) Tl;dr: Welcome to my world, motherfucker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 05:25 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?I love this question! Like other posters, I think the context and manner in which facts are conveyed often tip the scales. A comment about women tending to have lower spacial abilities would be appropriate when talking about gender and cognitive ability in a psychology seminar. It would not be appropriate when discussing why I failed a topology midterm. I do well in mathematics courses when I work hard and poorly when I don't. To fall back on a small aggregate difference in spacial reasoning as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 05:16 AM |
| 2 | Q4BP - isms, ists and phobesI hate how much I agree with you on things sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 04:24 AM |
| 2 | What would your ideal world look like when it comes to gender, dating, marriage, and family?Aww, thanks lady! I like that you give two options! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/16 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible to grow a new generation of girls less focused on physical appearance?Yeah, since writing that response I've been reflecting on the difference between viewing beauty as a stable trait versus a fluid trait. Maybe there is a way to call a girl pretty after all without it being a "lazy" compliment. (I use the term lazy in quotes because I likewise tend to call kids "pretty" or "adorable.") One thing I genuinely like about RP is that they frame SMV as something you can earn. Women sometimes intuitively pay compliments which speak to this idea of beauty as fluid. These… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/16 12:38 PM |
| 5 | What would your ideal world look like when it comes to gender, dating, marriage, and family?About 90% of the dating/relationship/love/marriage sob stories I hear in real-life are a direct consequence of one or both of the above. Huh. Are you counting TRP as real life or do you only hang with married straight Vanilla guys? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/16 12:18 PM |
| 1 | What would your ideal world look like when it comes to gender, dating, marriage, and family?Ee gads woman. So does my personality change so that I'm not commitment-phobic, am I deprived of the choice to mess around, or do I simply cease to exist? The latter and the former both sound bearable but I'm unsure I could stomach monogamy if I knew there was no second option out there ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/16 12:13 PM |
| 2 | Is it possible to grow a new generation of girls less focused on physical appearance?I think it's absolutely possible to grow a new generation of girls who are less focused on physical appearance; however, for the reasons that you listed among others, girls will always be somewhat focused on physical appearance. I know you cover this in the body of your post, talking about the degree to which we can shift girls' focus away from beauty and onto other (arguably more productive) things. Personally, I think we're already making progress. But more could always be done, especially on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/16 01:07 AM |
| 3 | Is it possible to grow a new generation of girls less focused on physical appearance?Strongly agreed on the interaction between cultural norms and biological predispositions. Shifting standards of beauty across time and culture suggest that while some aspects of beauty (e.g., symmetry) are somewhat evolutionarily determined, other aspects (e.g., preferred BMI) are very contextual. Imagine if it was a status symbol to have a plain, athletic wife with a Harvard degree! Hahaha. Over-educated East-Coast liberal here, wondering how that's not a status symbol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/16 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Competitive Victimhood (ie. the oppression olympics)Alright, as an over-educated White East Coast liberal who just integrated safety pins into her wardrobe, I feel like I've got to respond to this. Class is an important and oft overlooked aspect of cultural identity. I do believe the political establishment's insensitivity to class-related concerns in general, and to the concerns of rural voters in particular, played a role in Trump's election. It would be easy to frame this simply as a wake-up call to people like myself -- us Coastal folks who f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/16 01:41 AM |
| 3 | You know the whole "slob guys are matched with hot women in sitcoms" complaint..Wait a second. I work hard to uphold the SJW mantel: shit-posting, concern trolling, virtue signaling, and circle-jerking all over Reddit. And now you say, in addition to all that, I have to approve of domestic violence against men? Fuck that noise. I like men. Isn't it sufficient that my first ever Reddit post was about gentrification? I mean, I voted for Clinton. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL - Do the women you know into Romance/Fan-Fiction also go to bars/clubs??Yeah, I've always enjoyed bars and clubs but I've also always preferred reading and writing fiction. She's hungry for passion, and the world mostly offers unfeeling sex Wait, no -- I read fan-fiction for the graphic descriptions of unfeeling (or, at least, antagonistic) sex. Granted, it takes digging. There are too many vanilla folks cluttering up my written porn with depictions of mutually respectful intimacy. That's what real-life LTRs are for! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Have you ever been romantically rejected?Can you expand on this? Anything you're comfortable disclosing: what industry, what sort of behaviors, how did the conversations go down? I hear so little about female-on-male workplace harassment. I want to understand it better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/16 07:08 PM |
| 3 | Question for Women: Do you feel part of a "sisterhood" among all women?Precisely! All those foolish pre-wall women -- at 31, I am infinitely more enlightened. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/16 07:55 PM |
| 6 | Question for Women: Do you feel part of a "sisterhood" among all women?That being said, some old women are absolutely disgusting in their bitterness. Yeah, I feel like the most devastating attacks on women often come from other women. We know exactly where to hit because it's where we're hurting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/16 07:36 PM |
| 5 | Question for Women: Do you feel part of a "sisterhood" among all women?Short answer: maybe? Long answer: Women tend to make me uncomfortable. If there is a "sisterhood", then we are genuinely like siblings sitting around the Thanksgiving dinner table, struggling to find common ground. We have plenty of shit that unites us but even more shit that serves to keep us separate and distrustful of one another. I think this is also true of the "brotherhood" of men: you clearly have some commonalities, but this can just serve to alienate you from one another further. And, j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/16 07:19 PM |
| 1 | The WallI mean I dated women that TRP would dream to even get a chance with and walk away from because I didn't deem it worth my time and money, which means in short I wasn't interested in her. Good for you? I will admit, for better of for worse, that's definitely not the way I approach dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/16 07:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women have no incentive to NOT have as much sex as they can before marriage.Thank you. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 07:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women have no incentive to NOT have as much sex as they can before marriage.That's a nice way to put it, yeah, thank you. It can be tough, reconciling a desire for novelty with a desire for long-term connectedness. Some subcultures do a better job of it than others, but there's always some pain and compromise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 06:56 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Women have no incentive to NOT have as much sex as they can before marriage.Hahaha! Novelty-seeker here. This is fucking spot-on and I hate you for it -- the "bad partners" bit, I mean, not the awesome line graph. Have my reluctant but well-earned upvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 06:22 PM |
| 1 | The WallNot sure I say that as young women love the attention and do what they can to get attention. Right! They love the attention, in part, because it's novel. That might also why they sometimes seem more easily spooked by it. Shit. If I could stay just as flattered and surprised by sexual attention as I was back in my teen years, I'd be a hell of a lot more fun at parties -- also, more neurotic, and obnoxious, and impulsive. There are trade-offs for everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 06:07 PM |
| 2 | The WallTake it your not business savvy? I ask as a lot of people aren't when it comes to dating. I think a lot of guys have this fantasy that, if only they had a vagina, their rent would be paid for. Fair enough, but if you're decently attractive, youngish, and masculine, you could be making money anyway in the gay-for-pay arena. Some straight guys do do this but most of them don't. And, I suspect, some of those guys who don't do it have no moral qualms about doing it; they probably just don't think it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 06:00 PM |
| 2 | The WallOh, wow, happy birthday and congrats!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Why is the idea that 'if a man who believes in The Red Pill has sex, he must have "tricked" his partners into it' so prevalent with red pill detractors?Having dated an RP lurker, I second your original assertion: not all RP folks are always entirely insincere in their dealings with women all the time. What really pleasantly surprised me though is that you're all so into FemDom and pegging. Source: ARPALT | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 03:52 AM |
| 4 | The WallIt's Always Sunny in Philadelphia actually addresses this idea that women who fuck outside of committed relationships are "getting used for sex with nothing given in return." See S5E10 ("The Dennis System") and, to a lesser degree, S6E12 ("Dee Gives Birth.") As skeptical as the gang may be about Dee's assertion that she's the one playing men for sex, the truth is that she absolutely does this, same as her brother Dennis. You can argue it's less impressive when a girl does this because it's easie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 03:23 AM |
| 3 | The WallAnd this is why women come across as choosy! We absolutely consider 'getting something more out of it', but 'something more' might just mean better sex. To me, the whole sex-as-a-commodity mentality never really worked. Not that it was incorrect to think that way, it just didn't land me in many pleasant and/or lucrative situations. I felt uncomfortable using sex to leverage things overtly, guilty using it to leverage things covertly, and incompetent in interactions where an objective value was b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 02:57 AM |
| 8 | The WallHaving just entered my 31st year of life, I'm thinking more about 'the wall' than I used to. Your interpretation speaks more to my own experiences. If there's been a wall for me, it's been more attitudinal than physical. Thanks for your post! I mean, I do think of my looks as an asset that depreciates with age but, thus far, I haven't experienced many age-related disadvantages. The people whom I find attractive still tend to reciprocate my interest and, when I dress up and go out, I still get en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/16 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4All What are something that don't make a person attractive to you BUT will make them more attractive?Yeah, I'd honestly prefer someone be comfortable with their decision to see sex workers. I had a great 6-year "monogamish" relationship with a European guy who was very open about utilizing the services of sex workers while away on business (meanwhile, I got leeway with other women while he was gone.) My best friend also saw them on the regular when he lived in SF. Also, I had friends in SF who were sex workers and shame isn't very good for their business, especially since the stigma associated … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/16 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4All What are something that don't make a person attractive to you BUT will make them more attractive?It's weird; I was just reflecting on the things that have made me more interested in men whom I already found physically attractive. I recall being on a date with an attractive young executive who spent a lot of time talking about cell phone plans and marathon running. It was painfully boring. Then somehow I managed to steer the conversation into an awkward game of truth-or-truth (basically, truth-or-dare but without the dares.) So it turned out, not only had he patronized sex workers but he'd a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/16 04:33 PM |
| 12 | What is the perfect wife in your eyes?As a teenager, I always fantasized about getting an Amish wife to bake me pecan sticky buns. I thought maybe I could woo her into a same-sex marriage by buying her chickens and letting her name the chickens. My plan wasn't particularly well-formed. Now I want a wife who cooks for me, bosses me around a little, and sometimes indulges my kinks. Having dark brown hair tied up like an Amish woman couldn't hurt though -- also, pecan sticky buns. I'd support a woman free gratis for sticky buns and bak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/16 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4All What are something that don't make a person attractive to you BUT will make them more attractive?Seconded! Well put! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/16 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4All What are something that don't make a person attractive to you BUT will make them more attractive?Here are things that aren't inherently sexy to me but that do, for me personally, make a hot guy hotter: Being good at math and/or programming, especially if he applies these skills to Texas hold 'em A cocky attitude that flags or disappears the moment I express overt sexual interest. Gun ownership or, at the least, good working knowledge of modern firearms. Having seen or being open to seeing sex workers while, at the same time, being reluctant to admit this to a girl. A history in law enforcem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/16 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subThe type of heroin we have out here in California, Mexican black, is extremely destructive to your veins if you were/are a mainliner, as I was, due to its highly acidic nature, as the cartels that manufacture the dope skip a few of the critical steps necessary for high-quality product. Fuck, this brought back memories of my friend! He passed away in LA where he'd first started using, about 24 years prior to his death. He used to tell funny stories about his hapless quests for "China white." Like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/16 11:06 AM |
| 4 | are openly gay men less violent and less prone to violent crime than straight ones because they don't have to face the same level of competition to get women?Do we know that gay men are less violent? If we just look at DV stats, it seems like this is open to debate. Per the CDC, the lifetime rates of intimate partner violence are only 3 percentage points less for gay men than they are for straight men (26% and 29% respectively.) This doesn't strike me as a very significant difference. I do second you on women contributing to a culture of toxic masculinity but for different reasons. Also, I'm not sure we share the same definition. The way I've heard i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 08:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are people first, women second.No, your point about feminism being difficult to define is spot on. Dictionary definitions are deceptively simple. I just wanted to argue that a lot of the words that we use to identify ourselves are amorphous and open to debate. Ambiguity doesn't make a concept any less relevant. Your alleged counterargument is just hair splitting. Tell that to my old research mentor. In a lot of studies of LGBTQ issues, differing definitions of what it means to be LGBTQ can pose difficulties for researchers se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 07:49 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women are people first, women second.Feminist: Adjective, "advocating social, political, legal, and economic rights for women equal to those of men"; Noun, "an advocate of such rights." Source Better deffinition(s) of Heterosexual: "someone who only has sexual relations with cisgender people of the opposite sex" (assuming you are a heterosexual who has only has sexual relations with cisgender people of the opposite sex); OR "someone with a strong sexual preference for members of the opposite gender, be they trans- or cisgender" (as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 07:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are people first, women second.CMV I respect women Post body: and I can also recognize a female as such in order to copulate with her This is definitely a water-is-wet-type thing. There's no objective V to C. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 06:58 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Women are people first, women second.Nah, let him keep the flare. There are plenty of hungry wolves on both sides of the debate. Also, I'm pretty sure the OP is a cisgender male. Male because he's alluded to that fact in past and cisgender because he had a CMV about the sexual orientation of straight-identified men who fuck MtF transgender sex workers. That seems like a straight-cisgender-male sort of thing to post a CMV about. Not to say his stance (that they are straight) is wrong. I just can't see a transman really giving a fuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 06:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are people first, women second.So I take it there's no such thing as heterosexuality either? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 06:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are people first, women second.Right! I second this question. OP, if you want us to C your V, you gotta help us locate your V first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many women oppose feminism?Sorry, forgot to address your last two points: More so feminists often shut down the conversation when men are brought up, where they cry derailment when men are brought up. But have zero issues derailing the conversation when its about men. Yeah, I think us feminists sometimes fall into the trap of thinking about political dialogues as zero-sum games. It's true that our voices can drown one another out but, when we all shut up and listen, we notice that we also share important commonalities. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 03:21 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many women oppose feminism?Sometimes? Seems all the time. As when you are in college and that living on campus your in a bubble all of your own. The video's of college feminists show you guys fall into this trap it seems all the time. Well, I like to think that I personally only fall into the trap some of the time. And, as much as I'd love to claim snowflake status, the dull truth of the matter is that when there's one pseudo-exception, you can generally assume there's more of them. I think a lot of people take one look a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: What exactly are you trying to achieve in your romantic/sexual life?True. There's more of them in the BDSM scene proper, and they do tend to be emotionally healthier in that context, but you need a certain temperament to truly embrace the hugs-and-cuddles, late-night-munching, oft pretentious, naked, jiggly, cloak-and-daggers, nerdy-AF BDSM scene. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What exactly are you trying to achieve in your romantic/sexual life?But why? Everyone knows BPD folks are better in bed. Is he looking to get off the pussy carousel? Is "pussy carousel" even a thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many women oppose feminism?Yeah, as much as I criticize myself and my fellow lefties, I am actually pro-PC in general. If just think its current implementation is frequently contrary to its intended purpose. PC language was created as a means of demonstrating respect and consideration for the voices of people whose experiences historically went unheard. Having rules is fine -- we have rules of etiquette in general -- but shaming and otherwise attempting to silence those who break the rules is terrible, especially in this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 01:26 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: What exactly are you trying to achieve in your romantic/sexual life?Damn. How submissive is submissive then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What exactly are you trying to achieve in your romantic/sexual life?Hey now. I don't diss on IRC :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 01:03 AM |
| 5 | Q4All: What exactly are you trying to achieve in your romantic/sexual life?To be painfully honest, I'm looking for three largely disconnected things: someone sexy enough to distract me from reality, someone reliable enough to remind me when it's meal time, and someone smart enough to increase the statistical likelihood that my children will likewise be smart. Hypothetically, these desires could be fulfilled by multiple people, either sequentially or in parallel. In practice though, I tend to settle into monogamous relationships with smart, reliable people only to becom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 12:35 AM |
| 6 | Why do so many women oppose feminism?A big reason why is because feminism (and a lot of other social movements which I won't get into now) has historically been tone-deaf when it comes to class issues. This. Exactly this. I think college-educated feminists like myself sometimes fall into the trap of surrounding ourselves almost exclusively with people from similar socioeconomic backgrounds. Political correctness, while useful in other respects, can reinforce this class-based siloing by alienating people who sometimes speak in ways … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/16 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subYeah, I've got mixed feelings about the dark web too! My friend was already in a downward spiral when he found it. Maybe it genuinely improved the quality of his life for those last two years, or maybe it enabled him to relapse back onto the drug that killed him (he started with pain pills.) I remember him talking about it with the same wonder and enthusiasm that I talked about my first smartphone -- like, a complete revolution in convenience. Back in the day, he did all sorts of crazy things to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/16 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subYeah, I think, paradoxically, the things that kept me more removed -- having less life experience and living out of state -- also enabled me to be around for him more during his relapse. I'm younger than his friends and family (he died in his mid-forties) and I live a four-hour plane trip away. His college buddies and his brother pulled away because it was emotionally more intense, both being there physically and knowing on a gut level what heroin addiction does. I got it intellectually -- I tho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/16 12:18 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subAw, I love your pick of songs. It's crazy how helpful music can be in processing loss and building connections. My friend turned me on to Bowie's Memories of a Free Festival -- I love the way it ends. He used to listen to it while on acid with a friend from college. I played it when I heard that he was dead. Then, at the funeral, I asked his college buddies and, sure enough, the guy who dropped acid with him while listening to that song was there. It was crazy how many stories I got to cross-ref… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/16 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subI totally feel you! Thank you. I got into this SubReddit at a time when I had a lot of repressed work-related anger. There's something comforting about seeing your own emotions reflected back in other people's bullshit. Like, it was relatable and funny while, at the same time, being safer than directly discussing what had me stressed. With my friend, it's different because I have some weird positive emotions mixed in. Like, is part of the denial phase idealizing someone? I feel very warmly towar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/16 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subAh, fuck. Big hugs to you too. As much as I love having a RP doppleganger, I do wish the fates would leave our friends out of it. As for the clubhouse... it's tempting. I love you guys but I'm bizarrely nervous. Also, if I go, then I miss out on people inviting me to go :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/16 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subI wouldn't say "literally no context or reason", mostly because I think that's a dumb adjective. But, yeah, you're right. See my edit. If you know a way to move it to the stickied discussion section, hit me up. Meanwhile, I gotta run catch a flight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 06:44 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subYeah, I was pretty angry at the doctors! And this is a fucking crazy opiate epidemic that the drug companies have started. Still, one of his other friends pointed out that, as a recovery addict, it's on him to communicate his past heroin use to prescribing physicians. I guess there's a lot of blame to go around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: about drugs, death, and finding support on a debate subI am very sorry for the loss of your friend. Do you have real life people to talk to? Thanks and yeah, I absolutely do. And I've been talking to them too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 06:20 PM |
| 4 | Men and women, how do you feel about normal (NOT extreme/old/emptied) saggy breasts?Nah, I second you: very doable. Not sure it means as much coming from a female though. To me, it's not just about the physics of breasts; coloration and skin softness are also factors. The girl in the pic has milky breasts with puffy pink nipples. I'm a sucker for puffy pink nipples on White girls. Also, she's just generally very pretty: symmetrical face, confidant expression, fit body. Maybe you got down-voted for asking if it was the OP? Meh. We'll see if I get downvoted too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 04:51 PM |
| 1 | "How to Avoid Rape in Prison"Future_space_boobs said it better than I could; however, I'd like to weigh in anyway because this post is awesome. The video features survivors telling their stories in an honest, nonjudgmental fashion. The video's YouTube comments section features this thoughtful critique: "Givin' up y'ass fo potato chips & candy. Can you really prevent that stupid?" The YouTube commenter in question has retained an important point made by the video. And yet, at the same time, he spun it to humiliate the men w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 03:39 PM |
| 3 | CMV There is a breaking point in the pornification of sex in which women will become wary and less sexually active.Physiologically, it's too much stim to the external bits and not enough to the internal bits. A tongue or a face provides a relatively light, relatively focused sensation. Meanwhile, I do a lot of tensing and grinding to get off. Cunny is like trying to paint a house with a felt tip. Psychologically, it's boring. I like controlling guys, not vise versa. While I have gotten off to the idea of performing it on other girls, I haven't ever gotten aroused receiving it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 01:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV There is a breaking point in the pornification of sex in which women will become wary and less sexually active.Ah, I think we're actually in agreement. Your second paragraph nicely sums up what I was trying to articulate in response to your CMV. Some women do like the rougher side of mainstream porn but, rather than seeking out the sex acts depicted, might be content to just watch others doing those things. Obviously, sometimes women genuinely get off on doing what they're watching, whether or not it's directly connected to their sexual pleasure. Blowjobs are a perfect example of this: just because some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 01:22 AM |
| 2 | CMV There is a breaking point in the pornification of sex in which women will become wary and less sexually active.I've never met a woman who didn't like being eaten out. Hi, pleasure to meet you. My name is snowflake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 01:12 AM |
| 1 | CMV There is a breaking point in the pornification of sex in which women will become wary and less sexually active."Most women," maybe. "All women," no. In my sexual world, orgasms are massively overrated. It's all about exchange of power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 01:01 AM |
| 2 | CMV There is a breaking point in the pornification of sex in which women will become wary and less sexually active.I agree that kinks form mostly via Pavlovian conditioning but am a little confused about your argument as to why us women wouldn't then sometimes develop kinks that do nothing for us physiologically. Is that what you're suggesting? As a woman, I can't imagine I'm alone in having sexual tastes that evolved mostly through masturbation, solo fantasy, and porn-viewing. Sexuality involves a lot more than physiological pleasure. Were we to always imprint directly onto the things that brought us to org… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 12:41 AM |
| 3 | CMV There is a breaking point in the pornification of sex in which women will become wary and less sexually active.Very interesting! I almost completely agree, almost. A few points of contention though: First, it sounds like you're suggesting that us women will become disillusioned with men if the unreasonable standards that porn places on is become too high or too widely accepted. But in the scenarios you describe, women in the sexual market place are capitulating to men's expectations whereas women in committed relationships are scaling back to whatever (if anything) they actually enjoyed. I personally don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/16 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: If you found out your significant other was a Endorsed contributor on r/TheRedPill, how would you react?Hahahaha! Sorry bru. But you should know by now to avoid any post that starts with me getting turned on by something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/16 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: If you found out your significant other was a Endorsed contributor on r/TheRedPill, how would you react?I'd be confused foremost. But most likely also turned on. My apologies to all my fellow non-terpers; I am a "pill-traitor." Just to give context: my boyfriend cooks for me, texts me frequently when I'm away, and provides emphatic reassurance when I'm feeling down on myself. I try my best to reciprocate all this (paying for the groceries, texting back, and doing things to enhance his own low self-confidence) but I do still sometimes worry that I take advantage of him. He is also often more vocall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/16 04:38 PM |
| 1 | People seeking 'the one' or 'the unicorn' is in itself a sign of how life has become too easy in the first world.I believe far more men are on the spectrum than we would think. Agreed, especially if we include sub-threshold autistic traits. At risk of repeating things that you already know, Simon Baron-Cohen, a research psychologist at Cambridge, even suggested that autism could be conceptualized as "the extreme male brain," meaning that autism appears to be an exaggeration of the traits traditionally associated with "maleness." While I think men with autism are usually at a disadvantage when it comes to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/16 07:46 PM |
| 2 | People seeking 'the one' or 'the unicorn' is in itself a sign of how life has become too easy in the first world.My mom sometimes likes to characterize my dad as fitting the "aspie" stereotype but, in many ways, she fits it much better than he does. For example, he's better at acting in ways that are socially normative whereas she tends to perseverate more on things that she finds interesting. I was in a six-year relationship with my dad's advisee and he also fit the stereotype far better than my dad did. He was so smart, enthusiastic, and uncomplicated. In conversations, he'd shit-stir in a playful way, o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/16 07:07 PM |
| 4 | People seeking 'the one' or 'the unicorn' is in itself a sign of how life has become too easy in the first world.This is creepily on-point with conversations I've been having in my own personal life, especially conversations I've been having with my parents. Although I mostly agree, I'm going to seek to CMV out of a desire to engage critically with the content of your post. Mostly, I'd argue romantic love has been idealized at various points in history and that the idea of waiting for 'the one' (a perfect match) has been spoken of in literature for centuries. With more options, we do indeed become more cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/16 05:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying a women who got drunk around strangers and raped was practicing poor judgement is not victim blaming and is good. Same goes for a woman who distributes nude selfies to unknown men.Is that something you'd really know about your guy friends? It certainly isn't something I brag about. I consider myself pretty socially inept but others tend to contradict me on that front. I'm a licensed psychologist and have been complimented on my ability to build strong working relationships with patients whom are percieved as "difficult" by other clinicians; if I were totally inept, I'd be unable to be effective in my chosen specialty. The event I'm describing happened a decade ago but, if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/16 06:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying a women who got drunk around strangers and raped was practicing poor judgement is not victim blaming and is good. Same goes for a woman who distributes nude selfies to unknown men.Alright, to be fair, I didn't drive drunk. I was more a drunk-public-transportation-taker. So I've got mixed feelings too about defending the reputations of drunk drivers who, unlike drunk girls in unsafe situations, are putting others as well as themselves at risk. That shit is legitimately idiotic. But I know enough people with DUIs through the AA program to appreciate that good people do bad things. If doing something idiotic makes us idiots, then we are all invariably idiots. (Let he who is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 10:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying a women who got drunk around strangers and raped was practicing poor judgement is not victim blaming and is good. Same goes for a woman who distributes nude selfies to unknown men.Right, exactly. It's a grey area.I intentionally sought to write a scenario where both parties acted understandably, in spite of making some questionable decisions. The sex was unwanted. The girl continued with it even after consent had been withdrawn verbally. Therefore, one could argue that it was rape. But the point isn't how we choose to define the scenario, the point is that these ambiguous scenarios happen more frequently than we'd like to admit, sometimes leaving both participants confuse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 10:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying a women who got drunk around strangers and raped was practicing poor judgement is not victim blaming and is good. Same goes for a woman who distributes nude selfies to unknown men.I'd argue that they are making a retarded decision but that they are not necessarily retarded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 09:28 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Saying a women who got drunk around strangers and raped was practicing poor judgement is not victim blaming and is good. Same goes for a woman who distributes nude selfies to unknown men.Right! You go straight to a black-and-white scenario! This is what we think of when we think of unwanted sexual contact. Only, in reality, there're so many grey areas. For the sake of the debate, I'm going to invent a scenario that doesn't hit too close to home. So, let's say a guy and girl both drop acid. They've hooked up in the past and, mid-way through tripping, decide to see what sex while fucked up is like. So the girl is riding the guy when he starts freaking out. She thinks the screaming… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 09:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying a women who got drunk around strangers and raped was practicing poor judgement is not victim blaming and is good. Same goes for a woman who distributes nude selfies to unknown men.Why would someone drive drunk if they know the chances of getting arrested and/or killed are high? Smart people do stupid shit all the time: For shits and giggles Because they hate their life Because they love life and want to live it to the fullest Because the stupid thing they're doing is culturally normative Because doing it benefits a friend or loved one To combat loneliness Because they can't be fucked doing shit the right way This isn't an exhaustive list. Just know: dumb shit happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 09:03 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Saying a women who got drunk around strangers and raped was practicing poor judgement is not victim blaming and is good. Same goes for a woman who distributes nude selfies to unknown men.You'll know if someone doesn't want to have sex with you. As someone who's had to work a lot on her communication skills, I beg to differ. I'm not going to unpack the various scenarios because they're personal. I'd just argue that we want to believe that sex is more clear cut than tickling but wanting something to be clear cut doesn't make it so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 08:57 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Saying a women who got drunk around strangers and raped was practicing poor judgement is not victim blaming and is good. Same goes for a woman who distributes nude selfies to unknown men.Most men understand consent. Only a 20 year old hyper-sperg is not going to understand consent. Most people, male and female, don't fully understand consent. I've seen guys and girls whom I generally like and respect slip into grey areas. Worse yet, I've slipped into grey areas myself. As a relatively innocuous and not overtly sexual example: I once tickled an ex-girlfriend so hard she started crying. I mean, she was saying 'stop' but I just thought she was being cute. At the time, I remember sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 08:37 PM |
| 2 | Will social liberalism lead to a resurgence of the traditional conservatism?When thinking about whether some event will impact a species' DNA, one needs to consider a variety of factors including the nature of the event itself, the species' average lifespan, and the genetic loading of whichever traits are impacted by the event. http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evoscales_02 Same website, next page: they cite examples of microevolution within sparrows, mosquitoes, whiteflies, bacteria, and viruses. These are organisms with significantly shorter lifespans t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 07:26 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on porn?Hey now. By now you know what I'm into. Quid pro quo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/16 11:40 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on porn?Okay, branching into fantasy is progress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/16 11:12 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on porn?I'm a 30-year-old female who's been enjoying porn for the past 15 years -- 18 if you count my parents' bookcase. I was sexualized at a relatively early age (too young in my opinion); I concluded from that experience that knowledge is power. I've also been kinky for as long as I can remember; as a little kid, I used to get off especially on stories about mind control. Come to think of it, my core sexual interests have stayed surprisingly fixed for the past 22 years -- sort of like a jazz musician… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/16 10:27 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on porn?Dude. Snuff films are porn. You need to branch out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/16 09:42 AM |
| 5 | What are your thoughts on porn?This, exactly! The fast food comparison is perfect. I've always been a little skeptical of people who say that they don't look at porn because they can get the real thing. It strikes me as similar to someone saying "I don't eat fast food because I can cook." I mean, fair enough, plenty of people don't eat fast food. But plenty of good cooks occasionally get fast food cravings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/16 01:30 AM |
| 2 | CMV: RP is tone deaf on social class in America.One of the biggest taboos in UMC culture is hitting your kids. This is why so-called antiracist UMCs fixate on laws that, in effect, KIDNAP poor Black and Hispanic children from their families, and why they revile "Asian tiger parents" (actually a hallmark of the parents being raised poor - not foreignness). Yet, before the age of Ritalin, UMCs raised their kids with Victorian style discipline. Uncomfortably true and very frustrating, especially since I'm somewhat complicit in this. I'm a mandat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 12:15 AM |
| 4 | Student at Columbia is reported to Gender Misconduct office for calling himself handsome in class.Hey now! You're talking about my alma mater! But, yeah, in answer to your question: somebody certainly fucked up in this story. I'm not completely convinced it's an example of PC gone too far though. The story is so bizarre, I can't help but wonder if there wasn't a miscommunication somewhere down the line about the nature of the complaint against this kid. And, yeah, I'm an asshole for questioning him; you can blame the 'just world' phenomenon for my skepticism. But anyway, taking the story at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 07:25 PM |
| 3 | Let's Talk about TrumpHaha, yeah, "gangster rapper" is a really apt comparison. But just like "gangster rappers" don't represent the Black community (or even the larger hip hop community), Trump doesn't really represent these White guys either. The fact they latched on to him just speaks to how disenfranchised lower- and lower-middle-class people are feeling at the moment. Saying classist shit just reinforces the same conditions which led to his nomination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 04:07 PM |
| 5 | Let's Talk about TrumpIts not because of his policies, its because of his behaviors that are associated with the "white trash" social stratum, despite his wealth. I think you're describing the one thing Trump has going for him as a presidential nominee. Lower- and lower-middle-class non-college-educated White males are, to some degree, genuinely disenfranchized. This isn't to say they're not also privileged in some regards -- they just lack cultural capital thanks to classism and educational elitism. Trump is a parod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 03:40 PM |
| 3 | Do you care that Bill Clinton had multiple affairs, was accused of rape several times, was sued for sexual harassment and had an affair with a 40 year younger subordinate while in office?What on earth does the fact it was a cigar have to do with anything? He abused a steep power differential for his own sexual fulfillment, then subsequently undermined the good he'd done politically when he chose to lie about what happened. But, frankly, I found the Republican party's obsession with clarifying who stuck what in whom on national TV just as damaging as the affair itself. Only, they fucked up politically whereas Clinton's fuck-up was mostly a personal affair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 12:21 PM |
| 11 | The hatred of Trump and love for Hillary (despite her lies and deception) prove TRP right more than ever- detractors don't understand what locker room talk is"Terrible, ruthless businessmen" have no loyalty to their companies. They stiff employees, screw customers, and bankrupt their own businesses in pursuit of personal profit. When I hear people touting his business acumen, I'm reminded of those basic bitches whom TRP likes to criticize, the ones who get wet fantasizing about how they'll tame Chad. Never mind the lying and the mooching off past conquests. Your loving all-American smile will melt his heart. He'll pledge to use his alpha powers to fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 09:16 AM |
| 10 | The hatred of Trump and love for Hillary (despite her lies and deception) prove TRP right more than ever- detractors don't understand what locker room talk isExactly! What's with this assumption that those voting against him are doing so due to gender politics? His tax plan or private business dealings alone are both reasons enough to be terrified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 04:13 AM |
| 7 | The hatred of Trump and love for Hillary (despite her lies and deception) prove TRP right more than ever- detractors don't understand what locker room talk isHow much fantasy exists in getting your news from Facebook memes without fact-checking the context in which, or the attitude with which, Hillary defended an accused rapist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 04:07 AM |
| 2 | What was romantic for you?Late to the convo but I'll weigh in anyway. This question is beautiful and tough to answer. I always thought I hated romance but, upon reflection, the truth is that I'm just wired a little different. If something's too stereotypically romantic, it'll leave me feeling flattered but anxious, especially if it costs money -- not an awful way to feel, but I wouldn't call myself 'romanced' either. My boyfriend is an amazing cook -- he finds making dinner romantic and it leaves me feeling loved and car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/16 06:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV on Niceguy Shaming: Entitlement is a Copout.I was thinking in my head that the comparison of shaming nice guys for entitlement has a lot of mirrors to shaming fat people for being fat. We KNOW that on a broad level shaming fat people does not cause them to lose weight, the opposite actually occurs. Likewise, calling a frustrated unsuccessful niceguy he is entitled is most likely going to cause him to either double down on niceguy behavior or move further into frustration and asshole territory. So fucking true! Shaming does shit all to enc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/16 12:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4women: What would you think of a physically/sexually attracted man if you figured out he has no experience with women?You're describing my current boyfriend 6 years ago, my dad 40 years ago, and -- were it not for legalized prostitution in Germany -- my ex-boyfriend with whom I spent 6 awesome years. (I had the dubious honor of being his first non-pro.) Now that I'm 30, I'm not typically attracted to men in their early-to-mid twenties. But if I was single, and if I met a 30-year-old virgin who checked all the right boxes for me, I'd be much obliged if he wanted to check my box too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/16 04:12 PM |
| 2 | CMV on Niceguy Shaming: Entitlement is a Copout.I'd argue that we have a knee-jerk reaction to entitlement generally, not to 'nice guy' entitlement specifically. "Niceguys are not entitled to sex. Period." First off, following that logic nobody is really entitled to anything. You are not entitled to a relationship. You are not entitled to friendship. When people express entitlement in ways that we perceive as infringing on our own rights, we get irritated. To make sense of this in my head, I tried imagining what it would be like to be around … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/16 03:47 PM |
| 3 | What are your religious/spiritual beliefs?I'm a female atheist who considers herself "spiritual" by virtue of her 12-step affiliation. My mother is atheist and my father is agnostic or deist but in a very abstract way. He's a mathematician and believes the universe is too elegant not to have some metaphysical aspect. Big thanks to PincessBubblegum for so eloquently saying what I think my dad might say if he were more of a talker! Mathematics is truly beautiful sometimes. In grade school, I liked to make up my own creation myths and deit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/16 10:21 PM |
| 1 | "More men have weird fetishes than women" Do you agree or disagree with this statement?Haha, true. I was being a bit sarcastic. I have -- I mean, my "friend" has -- a weird sense of humor, in addition to weird tastes in porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/16 02:57 AM |
| 1 | "More men have weird fetishes than women" Do you agree or disagree with this statement?Per the article you linked to, gay male porn is the the second most popular category of porn watched by women (to see the relevant bar graph, you'd have to scroll down from where they discuss the breakdown by search term.) It's only slightly less popular than lesbian actually (but, again, this is going by category.) I couldn't find any stats about women who specifically fantasize about straight-identified men with same-sex desires. Slash fanfiction, shonen ai (or "BL"), and yaoi are all types of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/16 02:00 AM |
| 5 | CMV: above 24 (25 at most) noone is a 10You're probably fishing for answers from younger girls but to me, at 30, 27-year-old males look a hell of a lot sexier that 21-year-old males, just going solely off of looks. Their faces are just generally more angular and masculine. You gotta lose the baby skin, puppy fat, Bambi eyes -- that shit's for the boys in Sears catalogs and whole-grain cereal commercials. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 09:38 PM |
| 1 | "More men have weird fetishes than women" Do you agree or disagree with this statement?Per that first link, 1 in 4 males have fantasized about giving fellatio. That'd mean approximately 1 in 5 straight-identified men have, at some point, entertained the fantasy. But how common is for females to fantasize about straight-identified males who're fantasizing about giving fellatio? I'm asking on behalf of a friend, obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 09:24 PM |
| 2 | "More men have weird fetishes than women" Do you agree or disagree with this statement?lol, ok. My sentiments exactly. And, on a related note, nice screen name. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 08:58 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Subcultures are "bunny slope" / "training wheels" zones of the SMP"Training wheels" implies you're geering up to ride a two-wheeler. Fuck that shit. I'll stick to my subcultures. But, seriously, yeah, a lot of these fringe communities serve as safe habitats where nerds and freaks roam free. It's beautiful. No need to grow out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Car accident experiencesHaha! It's not uploaded yet but I'll check back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Car accident experiencesHawt. Link? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 07:08 PM |
| 3 | Car accident experiencesHe promises not to fuck your mom. He also off-handedly mentions that he gives free colonoscopies. He suggests you schedule an appointment and promises not to fuck you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 07:04 PM |
| 2 | Car accident experiencesI can't click the links because I'm in South Africa with obscenely restrictive data limits. Just going off what I imagine the videos to be like, maybe a fifth wouldn't be sufficient. How's about we add an eight ball? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 04:48 PM |
| 3 | Car accident experiencesHuh. Maybe it depends on definitions of "good driver." Like, let's say we have a very skillful, very knowledgeable doctor who likes having sex with patients while they're anesthetized. You might describe him as "capable" in most respects but would you refer your mom to him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 04:44 PM |
| 4 | Car accident experiencesYour comparison assumes that driving recklessly and crashing is a skill that one cultivates over time (just like illegal hacking is a skill, regardless of the legal consequences.) I say: if all anyone needs to be capable of something is a fifth of Jack, it's probably not a skill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 04:24 PM |
| 4 | Q4Women: What is "creepy" behaviour in a man?As someone who's admitted to repeatedly attempting platonic friendships with men who want to have sex with me, my standards might be different from those of other women. I would like to congratulate myself on the rarity with which I use the word "creepy." But then the label does have its upsides: calling someone "creepy" generally precludes friendship, which might enable the "creepy" friend to move on and find someone who shares their sexual and/or romantic feelings. By not dismissing people as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 02:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Society refuses to address sexism that affects menI wouldn't say the feminists to whom you're referring are straw (wo)men exactly because I do agree some self-identified feminists hold the views that you're describing. Nor do I mind particularly that you don't cite sources since we both do agree those feminists are out there. I'm just not clear what my role is in this conversation. Like, let's say I was discussing gay rights with a republican. The republican keeps saying gay rights are important and I keep saying how evil and homophobic republi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/16 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: If there were a pill that eliminated oneitis and a pill that made it impossible to cheat, which one would you want people to take?Anti-onitis pills for all! ...Except my parents. My parents get the impossible-to-cheat pills, assuming there's no contraindications with antidepressants. Mom needs those to ensure that their relationship remains halfway tolerable. I'm grey, leaning blue, but with no affiliation to the BP subreddit. Both the societies that you describe (mating for life and never staying with the same person) sound like dystopias to me. But I like the society we live in currently, which sounds most comparable to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/16 11:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Society refuses to address sexism that affects menWhile I've read articles by feminists who do prize feminine values over masculine values, I've also read articles by feminists who hold both sets of values as equally essential. (Again, Sandra Bem springs to mind.) And, yeah, we absolutely talk about toxic feminity; we just don't use that term. Codependency, enabling, body dysphoria, a reluctance to negotiate one's own salary -- there are plenty of phenomena that we relate, at least in part, to women's internalized gender stereotypes. I mean, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/16 09:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Society refuses to address sexism that affects menAnd once they are identified what do we do with the people still saying it? One of my main complaints with my fellow SJWs has to do with the limited usefulness of aversives (positive punishment) to extinguish a behavior. We've gotten very good at delivering the social equivalent of a smack with a rolled-up newspaper. Labels like "racist" or phrases like "check your privilege" -- they serve an important purpose and may well be nescessary to facilitating change; however, they don't offer alternati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/16 08:44 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Society refuses to address sexism that affects menI worry the people promoting toxic masculinity (or whatever we want to call it) are just regular folks like myself. We could mount a campaign to shame them, just like certain branches of feminimism have mounted campaigns to shame people for watching porn because they worry that it promotes "female objectification." But we all (or almost all) watch porn. And anyone who claims they've never held men to a double standard regarding open emotional expression is either fantastically enlightened or (mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/16 06:31 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Society refuses to address sexism that affects menI am reluctantly upvoting this as a feminist, mostly because the "Hitler and friends against foreign trash" parallel was hilarious. But also because, yeah, I agree: the phrase "toxic masculinity" is unfortunate. I'd be happy to see it changed to something else too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/16 06:14 PM |
| 6 | CMV: People underestimate the effect sex has on a man's confidence.That's why many men feel insulted when girls like you talk about this shit as if you can relate. Could we make a distinction between empathy, insight, and equivalency of problems? As an over-privileged, over-educated, white therapist with no criminal record, I often end up working with people whose problems are a shit ton more systemically ingrained than anything I've ever had to face. Nonetheless, I usually end up empathizing (and secretly drawing parallels to my own life). Sometimes the emotio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/16 09:54 AM |
| 4 | Would you ban TRP?I know exactly what you mean! It's like, I hate the Swedes. They're always traveling to other countries but, once they get there, they just spend all their time sitting around complaining about how hard it is to be Swedish. If we could just nuke Sweden into the ocean, then that'd teach them to stick to their own country and stop traveling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/16 03:12 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Most cuckold relationships are initiated by the man and something the man wantsAnd then there's the "hotwifing" phenomenon amongst swingers -- absolutely no power dynamics. Some guys just like to relax and watch their lady have fun. I sort of get the cuckold kink, as well as the appeal of "whoring out" a sub. But I'll never for the life of me understand hotwifing. How the hell do they get off without power dynamics? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 11:56 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] What's the RIGHT way to be masculine?The truth of gender is that virtue is found at its maximum at the balance point. The rub is, we as human beings are doomed to disagree where that balance point actually lies, especially in context and the heat of the moment. I wouldn't say a balance point necessarily -- maybe more a dialectic, finding truth in the synthesis between two mutually exclusive concepts. To be a good, virtuous person, you have to reconcile a lot of opposites -- not just find a compromise but literally hold both things … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 11:43 PM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] What's the RIGHT way to be masculine?There is nothing positive about masculinity in the lens of feminism, its nothing but toxic. Okay, I just skimmed the Wiki page on Bem. I get how her argument regarding the bennefits of both feminine and masculine traits might have gotten lost in all the information about her role as a feminist psychologist. The f-word (feminism) can indeed detract attention away from underlying arguments. So let me summarize my take-away from her: by saying that embodying both masculine and feminine traits is be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 09:18 PM |
| 0 | [Q4BP] What's the RIGHT way to be masculine?Yeah, I'm surprised to hear myself making a case for biologically-determined, sex-based behavioral differences after having argued against similar statements on this debate sub. But I can't in good faith retract my comment altogether; I genuinely do suspect that behavioral differences exist in aggregate (with more within group variability than between group variability). It's just that entertaining the idea that any statistically significant psychological difference between the sexes is biologic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 07:46 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] What's the RIGHT way to be masculine?I'm going a little off the work of Sandra Bem who posited that both masculine and feminine traits are positive and that the healthiest people embody some of both. To me, positive feminine traits have more to do with connecting emotionally and promoting harmony. Men in Western society traditionally ooperate more hierarchically and logically. Women operate more collaboratively and intuitively, placing more weight on emotional cues. While I believe it's impossible to say how much of this is biologi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 05:56 PM |
| 4 | [Q4BP] What's the RIGHT way to be masculine?Yeah -- I think feminity comes with its own list of aspirational and seemingly mutually exclusive virtues. Like, for women, there are a lot more expectations around interpersonal connectedness and maintaining harmony. I don't think about femininity as much as masculinity though -- I guess I just find the latter more interesting and relevant to the kind of work I do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 05:38 PM |
| 3 | [Q4BP] What's the RIGHT way to be masculine?Tru. I hear talk about boys lacking a strong father figure so much that it's become a bit of a cliche but there's truth to it also. Furthermore, people who lacked strong father figures are growing up are becoming dads themselves in an era when fathers are expected to be more physically and emotionally present. That's gotta be a tricky situation to navigate, being a father figure without a father figure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 05:32 PM |
| 4 | [Q4BP] What's the RIGHT way to be masculine?Why does anyone need a masculine role model? Women don't really worry about having a feminine role model. This is an interesting point. I think women tend to have more closely-related female role models and men tend to have more famous or indirectly-related male role models. This is because women still bear the brunt of child-rearing in many families, although I do believe the trend is shifting. You hear more talk of "positive male role models" in communities with higher incarceration rates for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 03:12 PM |
| 19 | [Q4BP] What's the RIGHT way to be masculine?Quick disclaimer: masculinity is an ideal. I'm about to list off some stuff that sounds impossible because no one (male or female) can be flawlessly masculine/feminine -- the virtues associated with these traits are aspirational. Furthermore, the correct way to be masculine is similar to the correct way to be feminine in that it involves reconciling seemingly mutually exclusive traits and skills. I think that's why the RP folks tend to have trouble with these concepts; there seems to be too much… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/16 02:30 PM |
| 6 | TRP men, explain why a woman should be selfless to you if you admit to being selfish?I do like that the RP encourages men to change themselves rather than waiting for women to change; however, I think you're assuming RP rhetoric only goes out to a male audience. Women reading TRP's sidebar will inevitably feel some pressure to change as they learn what the authors think of them. Most of us laugh it off or acknowledge a grain of truth; to me, a lot of things said of women on the RP are true to some extent but could just as easily be said of men. I think there's an assumption that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/16 03:06 PM |
| 1 | It's not the feminists that want men to be nice guys, it's the traditionalistsHaha, yeah, I definitely get the "sit down and shut up vibe" from some feminists, even as a female feminist who oftentimes agrees with them. I can guarantee that I personally don't want complete power over men (to reiterate: that sounds boring as shit.) But I also know one person doesn't disprove a trend, and I do like a little power now and then. Anyway, please feel free to interact with other feminists the way you're interacting with me on this thread. Feminists and non-feminists alike, we're … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/16 03:43 AM |
| 3 | It's not the feminists that want men to be nice guys, it's the traditionalistsThis is an interesting point. Women do often recommend that men "be nice" (just like most men would recommend women "be nice," were they asked their preference.) It stands to reason then that feminists will recommend that men "be nice" in a political context (being politically correct, for example, or listening to and validating the lived experiences of women.) I do like to believe "be nice" is good general advice; however, a little conflict can also be fun. It might therefore be best to approac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/16 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: Do you believe in good and evil?I'm coming late to the conversation but I can't resist. These are wonderful questions! I'm non-red and typically default to blue although I consider myself more grey. I don't believe in good and evil because I don't beliefe in free will and the concepts of 'good' and 'evil' imply choice. I believe our behaviors stem from an interaction between internal factors (biology, lived experience), external factors (context), and random chance. I do believe that good, evil, and blame-worthiness or culpabi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/16 02:46 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Feminism is hardest on women of mediocre intelligence and weak women, which is most women in society.Huh. Not sure how we jumped from free or subsidized daycare for lower income families to NAFTA. In any case, I think our disagreement is more related to how much individual versus environmental factors influence the economic realities of individuals and their families. Liberals (such as myself) tend to talk about systemic inequity whereas conservatives focus more on personal accountability. If there is an objective truth, I suspect it lies in a marriage between these two opposing viewpoints. For… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/16 05:10 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Feminism is hardest on women of mediocre intelligence and weak women, which is most women in society.Nonsense! We must be all of those things at once! Anything less is a mark of grotesque masculinization / intellectual shallowness / promiscuous didinhibition / cold-hearted frigidity! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/16 11:26 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Feminism is hardest on women of mediocre intelligence and weak women, which is most women in society.You are likely a strong career woman and expect everyone to be. Dude, she just said not everyone has the luxury of pursuing a career. She was pointing out that, in the process of prioritizing family, a large percent of women end up working unskilled jobs. How is saying "having a career is a luxury" the same as saying "everyone should have a career"? Those sound like mutually exclusive arguments. Taking it a step further, the choice of whether or not to work or be a stay-at-home mom is a luxury. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/16 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Can a beta male have a fulfilling relationship with a post wall woman?You will in time. Interesting guys often lose their virginity late. My dad was 26. Prior to getting laid, he'd convinced himself that he was fundimentally unloveable because of his acne problem. My current boyfriend was 25 and, 5 years later, he remains obsessed with percieved physical shortcomings. So, assuming you don't do something dumb like overdose, the odds are in your favor. Happiness, unfortunately, is even more elusive than pussy. Life will mostly suck but, unless you take active steps … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/16 09:19 PM |
| 5 | A question about our debates.Ha! Yeah, I don't think Chad had much fun either. Your original point still stands though: I don't think the ad hominem stuff was at the level to warrant post-deletion. A good rebuttal is like a cocktail: you want just a pinch of ad hominem for spice, relative to the logical and observational content. Your response was spicy but not unpalatable. If somebody couldn't swallow it, they probably shouldn't have been messing with pills either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/16 04:56 PM |
| 5 | A question about our debates.The guy who complained called it circlejerking, and suddenly, it was gone. To be fair, that thread did devolve into a circle jerk. I just hope it was as good for you as it was for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/16 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Is there ANY science/study behind theredpill?Psychology is not a proper science. As much as I hate my own field sometimes, and as envious as I get of mathematicians, I still do think you need to unpack this a little more. Why isn't psychology a science? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/16 12:22 AM |
| 1 | If a man offers a woman a drink in a bar/club, he is politely displaying his interest in her. If the woman is not interested in him or unavailable, she should decline the drink.Woah, that's a lot of hate contained in one short paragraph. I see you around here enough to be invested in smoothing this over if there's anything I can say to, uh... apologize for not having gotten raped? No, that's too weird. But, yeah, I will concede it was a little fucked up of me to humble brag about not getting raped in the sort of situation that can (and often does) lead to rape. Especially given that I sometimes provide counseling to people with sexual trauma. So, I guess, if it makes y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/16 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Can a beta male have a fulfilling relationship with a post wall woman?Oh, bless you! That is perfect! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/16 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Can a beta male have a fulfilling relationship with a post wall woman?Eh, I liked his stuff. But then I have a weird kink for ostensibly straight guys eroticizing threats to their own masculinity in ways that make them appear slightly less straight and more subby. I mean, I doubt that was scumbag7's intention, nor do I think his writing necessarily reflects on his own sexual desires, but I'd be down to buy his ebook if he ever wanted to write a treatise on how bearing witness to porn featuring Chad's "beautiful hard 8 inch cock" warps the sexualities of "inadequat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/16 03:11 PM |
| 1 | If a man offers a woman a drink in a bar/club, he is politely displaying his interest in her. If the woman is not interested in him or unavailable, she should decline the drink.None of the above. One of the most flattering things that happened to me during that time period was being offered a bump of coke by a stranger out of respect. Apparently, he recognized me as the girl who did not have a drunk coked-up foursome with three guys in a tiny Harlem apartment with no furniture. My failure to fuck in the face of otherwise terrible decision making was the stuff of legends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/16 02:28 PM |
| 3 | [Q4Men] Who here has dated female nerds and what was your impression of them?Aww. I haven't been read that hard since you summarized the results of that personality test you took. Do you have a missing sister born in 1985? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:42 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Have you ever met a male misogynist in real life? If so how did you interact with him?Careful bruh. I might just be part of that BP hive mind ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:30 PM |
| 2 | [Q4Men] Who here has dated female nerds and what was your impression of them?Wait -- how many guys here legitimately identify as neo-nazis? I'm suddenly feeling very sheltered (and possible quite gullible, depending on whether you accidentally dropped the "/s".) And, if you're a neo-nazi, where the fuck are you located? I have all the questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:16 PM |
| 5 | [Q4Men] Who here has dated female nerds and what was your impression of them?Smart chicks are also dangerous in that, while they are intelligent, they are not as intelligent as they think they are. In many cases, they don't know what they don't know. They go off half cocked (heh), not ready for the world. They consider themselves superior to less intelligent women, and really just don't get why men aren't "attracted" to their "intelligence". While none of this strikes me as untrue, wouldn't it also be true if we reversed all the gendered nouns and pronouns in that paragr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:06 PM |
| 9 | [Q4Men] Who here has dated female nerds and what was your impression of them?I'm so glad somebody thought to pose this question! I'm genuinely curious to read responses. Please do note though, women's behavior is contextual. Some "bar sluts" are just drunk nerds who let their less nerdy coworkers pick their outfit, style their hair, and do their make-up (indeed, there is photographic evidence of this chameleonic phenomenon on my Facebook timeline.) Note that I'm not pedestalizing smart chicks in any way. I think smart chicks are neurotic [...] Oh shit, we are? anxious [.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 01:39 PM |
| 10 | If a man offers a woman a drink in a bar/club, he is politely displaying his interest in her. If the woman is not interested in him or unavailable, she should decline the drink.I used to drink for free at bars, back before I got sober. My sense was that younger guys bought drinks for me because, by accepting them, I was placing myself under a contractual obligation to fuck them (a contract which I always, like an asshole, reneged on); older guys bought drinks to increase the odds that I might fuck them; and the coolest guys (who also tended to be the oldest and most world-weary) bought drinks because it's sometimes refreshing to have a young, cute female drinking buddy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 01:13 PM |
| 6 | Does TBP think this is what most Red Pillers look like?So if a very attractive man had this same viewpoints, would you be as equally disgusted? Switch the 'if' to a 'when'. No need for hypotheticals. I dated an attractive RP lurker who disliked feminism but who was also sexually submissive. It was a profoundly hot, profoundly ill-advised three-month relationship. Indulging our shared kinks exacerbated his depression and left me painfully attached to him. So, no, 'disgusted' isn't quite the right word. 'Nostalgic' or 'aroused' might fit better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 12:46 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Have you ever met a male misogynist in real life? If so how did you interact with him?TBP being the personification of penis envy Personification or manifestation? Now I can't shake this image of all the BP kids melding together to become one massive female-identified transformer with a single shared consciousness and a giant phallus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 12:07 PM |
| 3 | "We fought for the freedom to RISK rape!"I think I can relate to her; I just can't agree with her. I suspect she's one of many women who, in the face sexual harassment (and possibly violence), decided that she wouldn't label herself a victim. Instead, she quite sensibly focused in on the variables she can control (her attire, for example, or what time of day she takes her walks.) The problem is, by refusing to feel outraged or vulnerable in the face of sexual aggression, she now becomes disdainful of self-identified "victims" when they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 01:06 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: what makes you interesting? What are you passionate about?I suspect the same things that make me interesting to some also make me boring to others. When I was 12, my parents took me to a child psychologist who suggested that I try asking classmates what they did over the weekend, rather than talking about sex, politics, and religion all the time. Since then, I like to think I've become more well-rounded and socially flexible. My interests have also expanded from sex, politics, and religion to sex, politics, religion, psychology, mathematics, criminolog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 08:16 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: What Traits are "Sexually Attractive" in Men?Hmmm. Also, why not "Democracy now"? I said an East Coast liberal family: NPR-listening, organic-apple-eating, New-Yorker-reading, and used-Volvo-driving. None of that Democracy-Now-podcast-subscribing, vegan-fair-trade-cooking, no-pee-flushing, Bhuddist-meditation-teaching West Coast liberal nonsense! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What Traits are "Sexually Attractive" in Men?When the new, shiny, fun thing became less new and shiny. It's still pretty fun though. (I was only gone a month.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 01:48 AM |
| 4 | Q4BP: What Traits are "Sexually Attractive" in Men?Aww shit. I'm Jewish on my paternal side too, with a bunch of relatives sprinkled throughout Europe so that we can all get together and talk about how much better socialist governments are. So, clearly it stands to reason one of us must hail from the bizarro universe. And, since you had to consciously opt out of the matrix by taking the red pill, I have determined that you are the bizarro me and not vise versa. Let me know if you ever need a BP doppleganger to fake nice with your pansexual vegan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 12:26 AM |
| 4 | Q4BP: What Traits are "Sexually Attractive" in Men?Aww, you always bring out the worst in me <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 11:24 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Unrestrained Female Sexuality is hurtful and oppressive to men.Okay, fair enough. I can't C your V. But, if it's any consolation to you, unrestrained male sexuality has similarly adversely influenced women's behavior. I guarantee: for every bulky, exercise-addicted male there is a waifish, calorie-obsessed female; and for every over-confident, emotionally stunted male there is a passive, emotionally masochistic female. Ideally we would all lust after healthy, well-rounded people, thereby incentivizing adaptive behavior among members of the opposite sex. But… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 11:23 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: What Traits are "Sexually Attractive" in Men?Wait. how is being right wing sexually attractive? I'm an over-educated East Coast liberal; hailing from an NPR-listening, organic-apple-eating, New-Yorker-reading, used-Volvo-driving family of university professors. So, you know how some conservative Mid-Western white girls fetishize stereotypically tough-looking black guys? Well, Atlas just described my version of the BBD. My brain may be well to the left but my libido leans right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What age range of men do you find to be "prime" and most attractive?30-year-old female here. I tend toward guys who are 28 to 38 years old and girls who are 22 to 32 years old. I'm not sure if this speaks more to my aesthetic preferences or my emotional (im)maturity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: weed and sexAh shit -- weed was my go-to! I recall an ex-girlfriend complaining that I needed to be high to touch her (to which I responded, "oh, well, yeah, sorry.") Actually, the last time I smoked weed was with her on her birthday -- I had several joints, coupled with a 40 oz. and a little bump of coke, but it wasn't enough to get me out of my own head. Unfortunately, now that I'm sober, it's harder to half-assedly enjoy a half-assedly good sexual encounter. I went from sexually very chill to very finick… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 06:05 AM |
| 3 | Have you ever had blue balls/vulva? If so, how many times? How distressing was it?I'm probably unusual in that what I like most is sexual role-playing or story-telling (genital stimulation optional). You'd think it'd be hard to get blue vulva that way -- actually, can we come up with another name here? That sounds like a quote from an autopsy report. But, yeah, I get blue-whatever'd pretty frequently. Like, we might be sending dirty messages and then suddenly my partner is at a family dinner or my iPhone battery is dead or my friend is all up in my space or her coworker walks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 05:25 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Okay, yeah, that's a fair point. Tough shit all around :-/ I do think it brings us back to my original concern though: sex is a tough resource to commodify. Unlike money, its value shifts dramatically dependent on context. I mean, just imagine trying to get a small task force of concerned citizens together to jack off the incontinent, oftentimes incoherent people who sometimes sleep in public parks. I'm avoiding the word 'homeless' because many homeless people are at least fortunate in their abi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 10:09 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?I think sometimes we hope we can logic our way out of systems that strike us as unfair. Like maybe if I just complain eloquently enough about the flawed capitalist system within which I'm struggling, maybe somehow I'll land myself a good job. Or perhaps taking loudly about inefficient paperwork and procedures will somehow speed up the line at the DMV. Oftentimes the hope is that, if we make a convincing enough case for why human nature is counterproductive in any given scenario, people around us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Sex is an unusual resource in that it's valence changes dramatically, depending on who's giving and who's recieving. Imagine you're asked to give some food to a hot girl who's hungry (assuming girls are your thing). Feel okay? Great! Now give some food to a woman with psychological problems who hasn't showered or eaten in days -- she's starving. Still feel good about yourself? Fantastic! Only, now they're not hungry, they're horny, and the commodity you're offering is sexual intimacy. It's natur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 08:33 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?But why would a woman put themselves in situations at high risk for things to occur? As a co-ed who quite enjoyed drinking and dressing provocatively, I can only speak to my own motivations: getting shit-faced while feeling sexy is fun. The risk is outweighed by the in-the-moment enjoyment and can be further distorted by the alcohol imbibed. But people make risky decisions all the time. And just because somebody gambles at a casino does not mean they want to (nor deserve to) get robbed. Sure, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 08:20 AM |
| 5 | Rape (via an attacking tribe) would have been inefficient in prehistory as it wouldn't have produced any babies?Worse yet is the story of what triggered their beef with the Benjamites! Linking it back to the OP: I can't imagine the Benjamites' plan to rape the traveling Levite carried any evolutionary advantages, nor was raping his concubine to death a tenable strategy for preserving their genetic lineage. Judges 19-20 is the shit if you like violent, morally ambiguous bible stories. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Girl gets rejected by a guy in relationship, blames it on society. PPD what are your thoughts on this scenario?Right, I do think it's important to acknowledge distinctions between Black Americans and Black Africans. But there are gradations of blackness (or Black features) within Black communities which are still tied to status and beauty in popular culture. These standard were for a long time very ingrained in Black communities as well; if you've ever heard someone talk about "the paper bag test" or "high yellow", then you know what I'm talking about. People don't discuss it openly a lot. However, I sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/16 02:56 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Slut-shaming also exists because women insist on being considered morally superiorHmm. I found your initial post uncomfortably true. Not just uncomfortable because I dislike judging women for "promiscuity" -- I wish that was the end of it. But, honestly, I also saw reflections of myself and various female friends in your description of uninhibited but anorgasmic women. The anorgasmic nymphomaniac is an old and (as far as I know) outdated concept. But, yeah, I agree: women whose sexual exploration is not motivated by sexual release -- women like myself -- probably also, on ave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 11:28 PM |
| 2 | Am I a misogynist?Yeah! By shredding the misogyny fibers, you initiate this cellular process by which lactic acid is produced and the misogyny fibers are fused, thereby strengthening them. ... Wait, what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Am I a misogynist?An old family friend once told me and my mom that all white people are racist. At first we were offended but, coming back to it, I found it sort of relieving to think about it that way. Pretty much everyone, regardless of ethnicity, will do or think something racist in their lifetimes. But being racist is not an excuse to act intentionally racist, it's just a nice reminder that we will all inevitably fuck up. No need to take ourselves so seriously. Tl;dr: Yeah, you're racist and sexist AF. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Isn't Evolutionary Psychology just pseudoscience?Hahaha! Seconded! I think we all secretly long for the days when escorts snuck LSD into their Johns' martinis, observed through one-way motel room mirrors by government scientists... Well, everyone except the Johns. The Johns probably would have appreciated an IRB review. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 06:25 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Bisexual women, overall, are a better source of information about women than straight men are.As a bisexual female, I approve this message. We do give even better advice though to people who give us cookies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Am I a misogynist?There is one thing I hate about my fellow SJWs; we tend to label people in absolute terms based on whether they act or speak in ways that convey prejudice. If you say something sexist, you become a sexist person. Resentment toward women? Now you're a misogynist. Sure, some people worked hard to earn those label, flaming askfeminists or trolling the PPD or getting themselves gilded on TRP. But how fucking useful is it to slap inflexible labels on people and then shun those people based on said la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Isn't Evolutionary Psychology just pseudoscience?is falsifiability the correct measure outside of chemistry and physics? This is a good question. I'd argue that, when it comes to human behavior, the evo psych theories are often used to demonstrate that an observed sociological trend is due to nature not nurture, meaning it's innate and presumably more difficult to alter. But, since we happen to know that human behavior differs drastically based on environmental variables, and since it's oftentimes unethical to alter those environmental variabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 05:33 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Bisexual women, overall, are a better source of information about women than straight men are.Because your response is absolutely devoid of emotional content. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Isn't Evolutionary Psychology just pseudoscience?This is true. It's hard to be empirically rigorous when you can't ethically manipulate variables. But even so, most fields of science will try to adhere to the following procedure: Review preexisting literature -> form hypothesis -> collect data -> test hypothesis -> confirm or reject hypothesis There are undoubtedly a number of scientifically rigorous evo psych researchers who follow the same procedure. But, on the ground level, I see evo psych fans doing the following: Observe data (or case ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Isn't Evolutionary Psychology just pseudoscience?This! This is exactly why I'm skeptical of evo psych theories! Not because I don't agree with the premise that brains evolved, same as the rest of us, via a process of natural selection, but because the resultant claims regarding human nature are not falsifiable. That doesn't make it utter bullshit, but it does place the field at a disadvantage, in comparison to other branches of psychology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 03:17 PM |
| 1 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Strongly agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 01:11 PM |
| 5 | Experiment: Rate these men and guess their age (updated with proper links)Adorkable 4/10; 22 years old Twink gets +1 to all stats for the cute baby 'stache, placing him at 4/10 and 23 years old. 5/10 will grow into an 8/10 with age; he's got 24 years now and needs about 6 more Objectively 3/10 but subjectively 5/10 (+2 for looking like an ex-boyfriend); probably 25 years old Either 2/10 or 8/10 depending (4/10 baseline, with -2 for looking like my Swedish ex-girlfriend or +4 if that is in fact my Swedish ex-girlfriend); 20 or 28 years old respectively snuggly 6/10; 27… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 01:32 AM |
| 2 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Do we actually have a fundamental disagreement, beyond our respective opinions about feminism? I really liked your original bullet points because they got me thinking about where I fall on various gendered issues. But now we seem to be slipping into semantics. For example, it seems as if maybe you don't distinguish between genuinely mentally respecting people versus treating them as if you respect them. Or maybe I should have clarified that by "make nice" I meant behaving with respect. Acting wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Article from Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior: Men pay far more for younger prostitutes. How does this fit into the RP vs BP paradigm? (banned from sugar subreddit)The reason risks are called risks is because you lose with them sometimes. I maintain Mad Max is a great example of a movie that did it and did it right. Sure, there was a male protagonist and some hot female eye-candy. But then there was Furiosa and those old biker women. It worked because it was an awesome movie but, for me, as a female, an added perk was that I didn't get bored every time they cut to a woman doing something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:18 AM |
| 2 | Article from Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior: Men pay far more for younger prostitutes. How does this fit into the RP vs BP paradigm? (banned from sugar subreddit)Yeah, this is true. It's not enough for a movie to reverse gender norms. It also needs to be a legitimately good movie. And even if it is a legitimately good movie, casting unattractive female actresses is still a gamble. Maybe my beef is with the risk-averse nature of Hollywood more generally. I just don't like getting bored by the women in films all the time. The new Mad Max was an awesome exception to the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Article from Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior: Men pay far more for younger prostitutes. How does this fit into the RP vs BP paradigm? (banned from sugar subreddit)Ah, okay. Sounds like a miscommunication. I'm not talking about sex appeal. I'm talking about casting unsexy women in unsexy roles because, sometimes, that shit makes for good cinema. Nobody's getting a hardon over Charlize Theron in 'Monster', even though she got an academy award for it. I want to see more films like that, with some ugly-but-interesting women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 12:41 AM |
| 3 | Article from Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior: Men pay far more for younger prostitutes. How does this fit into the RP vs BP paradigm? (banned from sugar subreddit)Again, reads like mass spam. Get specific or GTFO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 12:26 AM |
| 5 | Article from Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior: Men pay far more for younger prostitutes. How does this fit into the RP vs BP paradigm? (banned from sugar subreddit)Is this a response to my post specifically or mass spam for the PPD generally? The two lines of text you wrote could be applied to pretty much any post over three sentences in length. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 12:20 AM |
| 6 | Article from Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior: Men pay far more for younger prostitutes. How does this fit into the RP vs BP paradigm? (banned from sugar subreddit)Audiences are willing to pay for older male actors but aren't particularly interested in older female ones. While I do agree, I also think part of this has to do with formulaic script writing. There aren't that many good roles for female character actors. I'm not talking about the visibility of "strong female role models" or some bullshit -- we have plenty of bland female heroines, goth-girl computer hackers, sexy scientists, vengeful girl-ninjas, etc. I just want more female anti-heroes and mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 11:49 PM |
| 2 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Re: asking women with wedding rings for sex some women, again not all, wear a wedding ring to warn of men from approaching them Exactly this! If you're directly asking a woman for sex, you can think of a wedding ring or a scowl or cringy body language the same as a salesman might think about a "trespassers will be shot" sign. The sign is no guarantee that what you're selling isn't wanted -- there's a good chance it's just there to keep people away -- but, given that they went to the trouble of p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)Yeah, you're right that "license" does not imply a double standard. I had trouble with the wording there. I just got a sense that you were putting it on her, like a license to flirt is something she wants for herself specifically, not for the relationship as a whole. For me personally, a license to flirt extends to both partners. They flirt within the confines of what's normative among their friends -- anything beyond that is disrespectful, unless explicitly agreed on Anyway, a little discomfort… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)"Licence to behave badly" suggests a double standard, such that it's alright for you but not your partner. What Sosumi is describing sounds more like a mutual willingness to be playful in the company of others. I personally prefer guys who trust my emotional resilience enough to jokingly flirt with other girls. I'm not asking for license. I'm asking for someone with a realistic view of what an LTR entails, who trusts me, and who grants me the freedom I grant him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 10:15 PM |
| 1 | There is no romantic loveI agree with you 98% of the time. The other 2% of the time I am experiencing romantic love myself. In those moments, therefore, it is impossible for me to be rational and admit that what I'm experiencing does not exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 09:48 PM |
| 2 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?For your first question, I love that you make a distinction in tone! Respectful but direct is great. Only two qualifiers from my perspective: first, hold off if she's visibly signaling that the answer will be no (through obvious body language or cultural signifiers such as a wedding ring); and, second, don't force the question at a time when you know for a fact that she's ill-equipped to respond with honesty and intention. For example, don't ask a barista when she has to make friendly on the job… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:00 PM |
| 1 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Okay, but seriously, I'm curious: how am I not a sex positive feminist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/16 02:09 PM |
| 4 | Q4BP Can you explain this? NSFWDo I need to post a link to blowfly girl story? Do not make me post a link to the blowfly girl story. Suffice to say, females have more than earned their place in the nsfw corners of the wtf subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 07:38 PM |
| 1 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 12:01 PM |
| 1 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Don't worry, I care about your boner. So far, all I know is that it's not chubbing up to Mike Tyson or grumpy cat feminist. Maybe you could organize the things that don't give you chub onto a YouTube playlist. Because apparently I click every time I see a fucking hyperlink. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 11:54 AM |
| 2 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Have you linked to this video before? Someone's linked to this video before. There are plenty of ugly feminists, just like there are plenty of attractive feminists. Why does this one redhead at the MRA protest gets so much airtime? Is she like the manosphere equivalent of grumpycat? Why did I even click that link? Fuck this. At this point, each link is just postponing my breakfast by a couple minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 11:42 AM |
| 6 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?I've struggled with this myself. It seems strange that consensual sexual activity can feel so natural when nonconsensual sexual activity doesn't. I posted about it once before, this idea of sexual instincts as a delicate neural network. Rape would be like hooking your iPhone up to a car battery or spraying a firehose up your faucet. We don't realize how delicate the neural network is because, when sex works well, it flows naturally. Things that go against the flow don't necessarily harm the syst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 11:28 AM |
| 1 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Sorry, I took a break in posting to sleep. Is someone looking for me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 10:37 AM |
| 7 | CMV: TRPers hamster more than the women they accuse of hamsteringAgreed. But frames of mind change depending on context. My original respose to you was a flippant and creepily TRP in tone. (I'm debating editing and/or deleting it.) But the other branch of this thread, the branch about open relationships, does a nice job of illustrating how loving couples sometimes intentionally shift frames, letting it be "just sex" so that they can explore outside of the diadic relationship and perhaps even come back to one another all the more committed for having ventured … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 11:22 PM |
| 5 | CMV: TRPers hamster more than the women they accuse of hamsteringI'm a bit confused. So, you mean your girlfriend is in a "just sex" mood and you ask to fuck her best friend? She'd probably respond the same way you would if a plate asked to fuck your best friend. Like, you might say, "Damn, show some respect. I've been feeding you dick all night," or you might say, "'Aight but let's make it a three-way, no homo." But why is your girlfriend in a "just sex" frame of mind to begin with? You said girlfriend, not plate. Presumably there's more going on there emoti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 10:35 PM |
| 5 | CMV: TRPers hamster more than the women they accuse of hamsteringIf she's the "it's just sex type" "It's just sex" is not a type, it's a state of mind. I'm sorry to break it to you mate but the same girl who's staring up at you with big wet eyes, shyly unfolding her raised knees, biting her lower lip, is the girl who gagged on the fat dick of some Chad in Rio. At the right time, in the right place, it's just sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Can men and women be friends if they are sexually attracted to each other?Can men and women still be friends if they are sexually attracted to each other? I certainly hope so. Otherwise, what the fuck am I doing taking late night calls from the grad school friend who relapsed on heroin or giving rides to the neighbor friend whose car got stolen? I'm pretty sure they're both sexually attracted to me. Alternately, what am I doing still emailing the long-distance friend who said she's not down for erotic online roleplay anymore? I'm embarrassed to admit this but, when yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 09:22 PM |
| 2 | What do u think of girls with only guy friends?Ah! The DSM is so historically riddled with non-distressing and non-harming sex- and gender-related "disorders" that I got tempted to double check the fifth edition, just to ensure you weren't correct. Nicely trolled! Have an upvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 08:40 PM |
| 2 | What do u think of girls with only guy friends?It's predictable, I guess, that I'd have mixed feelings about this girl, given my post last week about having male friends whose interest is more than platonic. If this girl relates flirtatiously to her male friends, that might suggest she has trouble building relationships that aren't srxual in nature. But it depends how you define flirtatious. I knew this really awesome female STEM Ph.D. student, back when I lived on the East Coast. She was a slim 4'8 and could drink her body weight and, just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 09:46 AM |
| 1 | What do u think of girls with only guy friends?I'm a bit confused. Do you mean that personality disorders are listed; that this inability to relate to people of the same sex is, by itself, is a disorder; or that it's a criteria of a personality disorder? Which DSM-V diagnosis do you have in mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 08:52 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?I notice the people most prone to accusing others of gas-lighting and blame-shifting oftentimes seem to be the people most prone to those behaviors themselves. Which worries me because here I am preparing to accuse you of being one of those people. Which suggests to me that I might be one of those people too. Ah well. I wish you the best, my fellow blame-shifter. At least we're not alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 09:05 PM |
| 2 | (Q4Women) Whats the worst way a man has ever mistreated you?What on earth does sexualized imply? Molested. SirNemesis already answered your second question perfectly. Instead of "what's his", maybe I ought to have specified, "what he thought to be his." It happened three times with different guys in different situations. The only thing truly linking the incidents was the unsolicited digital penetration. I've been grabbed through the clothes as well. But successfully shoving the hand down the wasteband and the fingers up inside struck me as more memorably… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 11:52 AM |
| 2 | (Q4Women) Whats the worst way a man has ever mistreated you?This. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 11:20 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: If you woke up tomorrow as a pretty 18 year old woman how would you live your life?Ah, the golden years. Pity I don't remember being you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 12:06 AM |
| 3 | (Q4Women) Whats the worst way a man has ever mistreated you?I was sexualized too young (at 12) by a guy on an airplane. I was an emotionally young 12 and I thought he'd injured it because his thing pointed up, not down. In adolescence, the airplane story morphed into a funny anecdote about my first kiss. Then in undergrad one day I suddenly remembered how young and scared I'd been. It was bizarre. After the airplane incident, I resolved that I wouldn't be caught off guard like that again. I proceeded to educate myself about sex as best I could. I still h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 12:04 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: If you woke up tomorrow as a pretty 18 year old woman how would you live your life?Monogamous relationship? Free or cheap drugs? Enjoying what God gave you? Huh. So, this is awkward and I don't have any memory of it, but I think I was you posting on this subreddit just before my 18th birthday. Whoever did this to us left future you (i.e., me) with all these bizarre fake memories about growing up female. Also, we're sober now. I know that's a downer but I promise we got a few lesbian threesomes in as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Why do some RPillers blame crime and violence on men not getting laid?Hahaha. I got off work today and had the phrase "shithole shamanism" waiting for me in my Reddit inbox. Thank you. Personally, I wouldn't be opposed to temple prostitution. We had something similar in SF. One friend of mine from grad school went for the transgender sex-workers and another friend (who was otherwise quite proper, with an MBA from Stanford) went there to cross-dress while he was on crack binges. To my knowledge, they never did run into one another. As someone with a vagina though, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do some RPillers blame crime and violence on men not getting laid?Agreed! I think it'd be good for people on both sides of the financial transaction -- sellers as well as buyers. But, outside of RP, I seldom hear discussion that acknowledges the difficulties from a buyer's perspective. They a whole different kind of stigma than sex workers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 09:35 PM |
| 3 | Why do some RPillers blame crime and violence on men not getting laid?Just look at jail. Give those guys some regular pussy access and they'd be saints. Well... saints in comparison to how they are now, at least. You can't turn a bad boy into a nice guy with pussy, but you can certainly prevent a nice guy from going postal. Ah, you updated your post. My pussy's magical properties are somewhat clearer now. Two thoughts on what you're saying: first, given the small percentage of nice guys who genuinely go postal, do you think mass inoculation of nice guys with pussy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 10:06 AM |
| 2 | Why do some RPillers blame crime and violence on men not getting laid?Haha! That Mad Max dystopia looked so fucking cool -- terrible place to live admittedly, but the aesthetic by itself is tempting to recreate. If we assume there is pussy magic, how does it work? A lot of terrorists seem to have wives and girlfriends, and I suspect incels are actually underepresented in the criminal justice system. Is pussy magic preventative or curative? Can we use it for rehabilitative purposes? Could it be that all those girls fucking bad boys are actually engaged in a massive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 09:47 AM |
| 4 | Why do some RPillers blame crime and violence on men not getting laid?You know pussies aren't actually magic, right? I wish I had a transmogrifyer between my legs but it's really pretty simplistic equipment. I don't mean to imply this is an RP assumption. Plenty of women (myself included) have attempted transmogrifying pussy magic at one time or another. We can't erase the emotional scars of men whom we care for, we can't fuck them sober, and we can't vaccinate them against becoming a terrorist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 09:29 AM |
| 2 | Q4Ladies: Rudest and Crudest Pick-up linesI've had two guys shout dollar amounts at me. One was an older gentleman who didn't speak much English in a cocktail bar in NYC and the other was some guy on a dark street in Detroit. Apparently, drunken businessmen and lurking shadowy strangers place my SMV at three hundred dollars. I startled and annoyed by the unsolicited attention from a stranger at night on a dark street, but afterward I was embarrassingly pleased to realize that I haven't depreciated in value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 04:53 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Natural alphas are nicer than less attractive men, most of the time.I really like your point about alphas not having cultivated the same resentment towards women. But I'm still reluctantly siding with a lot of the RP posters: alphas seem no nicer than other guys. I mean, are we defining alphas as fearless as well as attractive? Fear serves an important purpose, inhibiting us from doing all the dangerous fun stuff. So, if you're fearless, you most likely to make risky decisions. I therefore like to conflate "alpha" with "bad boy." They might be nice or they might… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 04:20 AM |
| 1 | The Point of the Bluepill and Third Wave Feminism is to Vindicate Women of Any Form of ResponsibilityHa! I like that. But I think we probably just define the word "feminism" differently. You might argue that semantics and truth can't coexist happily either; in other words, you and I have to settle on a not over-complicated definition of the word "feminism" it in order to get the truth. Then I'd say some shit about truth being relative or language being a social construct -- I dunno, something abstract and pretentious. But the truth is that I do sort of like the idea of embracing two mutually ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 01:10 AM |
| 3 | CMV: there are notable similarities between the incels comunity and Chris ChanThanks for shitting on my fantasy. No, but seriously: I figured I wouldn't actually be his first, nor would I be his best. He mentions female friends in his videos. The point was to humorously compare friend-zoning to sex while being a bit self deprecating about my impulse to "help" people. Now that I'm no longer being facetious, I feel like it's only fair to confess: I exaggerated the size of my empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/16 10:47 AM |
| 6 | CMV: there are notable similarities between the incels comunity and Chris ChanAww. I'd never heard of this guy until now. How can people hate him? He's so adorably tragic. I just wanna fucking friendzone him so hard. I'd friendzone the shit out of that bitch, then buy him ice-cream, make him feel accepted, like he doesn't have to change shit about himself to function in the real world. It's wrong, I know. He can't consent to platonic friendship because his grasp on reality is too shaky. I'd have to walk him through the process, break him in. And he'd remember my platonic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/16 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Opinion/Change My View: Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overturnedI don't post unless I have something I feel strongly about it. I won't post just for the sake of having something up. That just weakens the sub in a different way. Alright, yeah, this is a good point. I guess the ecosystem of subreddits is more delicate than I assumed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/16 07:23 PM |
| 2 | The Point of the Bluepill and Third Wave Feminism is to Vindicate Women of Any Form of ResponsibilityI like this conversation (about third wave feminism as a means for women to gain power over men while abdicating responsibility.) I mean, as a feminist, it makes me uncomfortable but I think it also keeps me honest. Whenever we seek to empower one group of people, we must stay mindful not to absolve them of accountability. That's not helpful to anyone. But this is a CMV. And I do disagree with you. If you replaced the words "point of" with "risk of", then I might (somewhat reluctantly) agree. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/16 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Opinion/Change My View: Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overturnedPost more RP-specific stuff, maybe? In my experience, it's easier to down people out than it is to shut them up. I like the variety on this subreddit but, yeah, I do see your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/16 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Opinion/Change My View: Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overturnedAh, incest. I'm glad I'm not the one who said it first. But, now that it's out there, I do want to echo your side point before addressing the state's rights issue. I believe we should legalize things that are not inherently harmful but that are judged reprehensible due to "moral disgust." Haidt is a big name here. He's known for his research using moral-disgust-inducing scenarios: consensual incest between adult siblings, cooking and eating an already dead pet dog, and fucking a store-bought chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/16 03:56 PM |
| 6 | Is age as important to women as it is for us?Just to contribute some anecdotal testimony... I'm currently crushing on this Black girl at my workplace because she's pretty, plays poker, and calls me "honey" sometimes. I initially judged her to be a twenty-something. Turns out she has a daughter in her late teens. Meanwhile, at 30 I'm now getting "ma'am" thrown at me by strangers. Is that a courteous Midwestern thing or a sadistic thing to remind me that each day brings me closer to death? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/16 10:30 PM |
| 18 | Do women who friendzone men genuinely care about them or only want to use them?Girls are missing out if they don't respect and value orbiters. Those guys are very often worth getting to know. Personally, it's disconcerting how many of my closest friends have been men who wanted to fuck me. I used to fancy that this was because I'm attractive or because, as a bisexual female, I share some important commonalities my straight male friends (namely, a weakness for women). Then one day my best guy friends and I both met this gorgeous, charismatic, egocentric, flaky amateur model… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 11:00 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of this relationship advice video?You don't get to pick and choose how dominance presents itself Right. I mean, as long as there's some means of ensuring that the dynamic isn't abusive, I think it's best when the person in the dominant role decides when and how the dominance will manifest. The submissive partner might have a set script in mind but embellishments and alterations and power plays and mind fucks are what distinguishes a mind-blowing sexual encounter from masturbatory fantasies about that said encounter. I also get t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/16 02:24 AM |
| 5 | What do you think of this relationship advice video?Yeah but a lot of it was in the bedroom. The one exception... Early on in our relationship, during a heated debate, I say something to counter one of his arguments, then he says, "huh, that's a good point. I never thought of it like that." So he was being dominant (debating aggressively) but that moment of unexpected surrender was what got me swooning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/16 01:34 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Men only pump and dump low-value womenMe: Sometimes I eat meat. You: So women are also hungry velociraptors? Me: ... Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/16 01:24 AM |
| 3 | What do you think of this relationship advice video?I really like this question. I'm also honestly unsure of the answer. Guys who have difficulty reading people and social contexts will certainly bennefit from knowing how to act dominant (just like women also bennefit from knowing how to act dominant, even if they choose not to). But then, how the fuck do you act dominant? Having dated a few socially awkward guys, I will say that part of what was so awesome about them was that they have this bizarro natural dominance born of "just not getting it"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/16 01:17 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Men only pump and dump low-value womenSeconded. If I was booked for an overseas flight the next morning and intentionally did not exchange phone numbers, then we can all safely assume I wasn't planning out the wedding, regardless of our respective opinions on the quality of my decision making. NAWALT motherfucker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/16 12:46 AM |
| 8 | What do you think of this relationship advice video?"Be a dominant male" is inflexible advice -- not completely off-base, just inflexible. Humans are complex and dynamic (meaning we're confusing and unpredictable as fuck.) Given what we know about ourselves, I tend to be skeptical of dating advice that cannot be framed as "if X happens, then do Y." The more you can stay fluid, responding in ways that compliment the fluid mental state of your partner, the easier it will be to hold their interest. We might give handsome men with cardboard personali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/16 12:03 AM |
| 2 | CMV - RP and BPwomen here are talking at cross purposes here because the women RP are complaining about are not the ones on this subredditI like to think some things are good in part because you have breaks from them. For example: Saturday. I love Saturday but if every day was Saturday I'd get bored of it. That's not to say we should make Saturdays infrequent (Saturdays lend meaning to my life!) Sex, likewise -- we tend prefer regular sex. But maybe it's better when there're some constraints on when and where it happens. If nothing else, constraints are fun because you can go against them -- getting fucked by a physicist in her of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?My first Reddit post was something about gentrification in my building pushing the older, poorer, Blacker tenants out. A bunch of people shot me down as an SJW. At first, I was offended by it. But I like interacting with people who disagree with me and I don't get that opportunity too often in the real world. Psychologists are either pretty homogeneous in their opinions or too polite to say otherwise. It gets boring. What about you -- outside of Reddit, what do you do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 10:01 PM |
| 6 | CMV - RP and BPwomen here are talking at cross purposes here because the women RP are complaining about are not the ones on this subredditThen attorneys and physicists can make excellent partners. Do vaginas need to be available 24-7 or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 03:22 PM |
| 6 | CMV - RP and BPwomen here are talking at cross purposes here because the women RP are complaining about are not the ones on this subredditWho wants to fuck "a good partner and a good mother"? That sounds like something an older gentleman says about his dead wife in her eulogy, looking back on her life as a whole (be she an award-winning physicist or a dedicated homemaker). Seeking "a good partner and a good mother" straight off the bat is like trying to give birth to a fully licensed doctor. And, just like a fully licensed doctor would look weird breastfeeding, the old-school ideal of the "good mother" would likewise look a little… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?Oh damn. I wish I had the intelligence of Allen Turing but I wouldn't trade my life for his. On the plus side, your biography would make a great screenplay (especially if it actually involves emerging from a dead horse in the snow.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 05:12 AM |
| 11 | CMV: The pushing of "Unwanted Sexual Attention" creates a unequal social hierarchy among men, that extends far beyond relationshipsI'd argue we don't trust cute strangers, we just all of a sudden like that we don't trust them. That's why we call them "mysterious." They get us so scared, we want to run home and hide under the covers with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?I had awesome parents who were shit at enforcing boundaries, I didn't fit in well at school, I was sexualized way too young for my own good, and then I was fortunate overall in adulthood, meeting a lot of interesting people and getting a lot of professional opportunities. I guess my life is a mixed bag. What about you? What's your backstory? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?I use Reddit as a way to figure my shit out. I figure, if I can tell really dark things about myself to a stanger who disagrees with me in most respects, or who even actively dislikes me, and if that stranger can act halfway decent in return (like, not completely vindictive and cutthroat), then the world is really a pretty awesome place. Thanks for that. Let me know if there's anything that I can do to pay it forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?Damn! It's like all of our feelings toward one another are mutual! Let's savor this emotional connection for a second. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 12:08 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The pushing of "Unwanted Sexual Attention" creates a unequal social hierarchy among men, that extends far beyond relationshipsI think us women hate being made to feel scared or guilty by strangers. We get angry secondary to those other feelings. But, yeah, you're right: we do then sometimes project the hatred onto strangers themselves in ways that are unfair and unhelpful. For example, some women are distrustful of strangers, especially strangers who misread their nonverbal cues, so they become irritated at being made to feel tense. Other women, like myself, have strong (and at times counter-productive) senses of socia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/16 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?Probably wouldn't make it through the 3rd paragraph on that list before "Ghosting" would happen. No problem! We'd most likely have both ghosted each other. When I was drinking, I preferred enablers. If you didn't give me something to smoke or drink or snort, I'd just wander over to somebody else's barstool. Doesn't bother me in the slightest but these short-sighted Ego-plays probably would inevitably lead to 'radio silence' & being branded a 'toxic person' it's just the normalcy of it; the irres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/16 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?Now I'm confused. Are you confused? What's up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 03:29 PM |
| 3 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?Aw, poor diddums :( Edit: Sorry, the above comment wasn't very constructive. I am curious where you're living and whom you're hanging out with though if your only romantic option is substance abusers (be they or be they not working a recovery program.) I'd argue plenty of us have solid, mutually fulfilling relationships, but that doesn't negate the fact that we do by and large tend to be assholes. I'd be annoyed too, were I limited romantically to people similar to myself. Do you not have a day … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 02:28 PM |
| 5 | Q4LADIES: What Are Your Best Girl Game Tips?I'd break my girl-game tips into two categories because, when I got sober, I had to learn an entirely different skill set on top of what I already had. The rules to getting hammered do not, by themselves, make for a happily-ever-after. Here are the tips for girls just looking to get shit-faced: When someone buys you a drink or gifts you with drugs, smile broadly and express your gratitude, even if you knew that it was coming. Your best friend is the pool table. If you suck, men will get a kick o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/16 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as an event horizon for virginity?When you say "why," are you asking about the outward manifestations or the underlying etiology of my social deficits? A lot of what I lack probably has less to do with capabilities and more to do with motivation. Overall, I just have no fucking common sense. Or rather, my common sense works in reverse. The riskier an idea sounds, the more tempting it is. I can't even stick to "safe" conversation topics. Fortunately, we all mellow with age, myself included. With regard to how I came to be this wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/16 09:04 PM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as an event horizon for virginity?But poor social skills are much less damning to a woman, and they generally have an easier time overcoming them anyways. Yes and no. I think a lot of interpersonally awkward females, myself included, learned to use sexual attractiveness as a means of compensating for social deficits. But behaving and presenting in a way that makes you sexually desirable seldom deepens existing relationships, it just facilitates the initial connections. Women therefore learn interpersonal skills more easily on a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/16 07:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Romantic relationships are stupidI love it when red and blue play nice and say smart things. This whole comment thread gets an upvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/16 11:03 AM |
| 1 | What caused the recent surge of emotions policing?I haven't seen a recent surge in "emotions policing" at all. I do like that term though. Could we apply it to the phenomenon where listeners hold speakers responsible for the emotional responses that they engender while demanding that these emotions be validated? In other words, could we call it emotional policing when I assert that the stranger who hurt my feelings is obligated to empathize with my negative emotional response? Members of the manosphere tend to see this as an SJW tendency. While… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/16 10:57 AM |
| 4 | Sugar DaddiesThe conversation this morning: "Baby? You awake?" "Wuh?" "Can I ask you something?" "Mmm." "You remember that lingerie I wore for you?" "Mmm." "You remember how I got it?" "Nuh." "I didn't tell you?" "I don't think so." "A guy took me shopping." "Uh huh." "You don't mind I was sort of technically a sugar baby for a brief period four years ago?" "Nuh uh." "Are you sure? We're talking about it on that one subreddit I'm always on." "No baby." Eyes closed, spoken into the pillow: "Ish okay. You joo … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/16 12:53 PM |
| 2 | (Q4RP) Sub in BDSM.Haha, that I do. "Rapelord" is a weird term -- like "shitlord" on the FPH sub but more rapey. I could see it used as an RP synonym for "rape apologist" (in the off chance the RP decides they need language to describe societal attitudes that perpetuate sexual assault) or I could imagine it as the name of a super-villain with an especially nasty fighting style. And does the fact I'd totally collect those comics make me a rapelord myself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/16 12:30 PM |
| 2 | (Q4RP) Sub in BDSM.If you're a shitlord, then you probably don't have the right mindset to enjoy the organized BDSM scene. Not all kinky people are overweight but I suspect the body positivity would indeed be jarring to a lot of Redditors. Female subs run the show This isn't how I remember it at all, unless by "run the show" you mean "reserve the right to decline sex with strangers." In which case, yeah, fuck those entitled subs! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/16 12:09 AM |
| 2 | (Q4RP) Sub in BDSM.All the best things in life are corny and embarrassing: themed hotel rooms, halloween music, covertly stoner kid's cartoons, and Vegas weddings where Elvis officiates. In fact, America itself is corny and embarrassing. Basically, if you hate BDSM, that's like letting the terrorists win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/16 12:03 AM |
| 6 | Sugar DaddiesOkay kids: confession time. I did the “sugar baby” thing briefly. It consisted of one shopping excursion and one weekend getaway, both with the same man. At no point were bills paid or hard cash exchanged, but he did spend an uncomfortable amount of money on me. I alluded to it here, in the second paragraph. My short-lived sugar daddy approached me on a generic dating website with an offer to take me shopping. In keeping with the stereotype, he was an older Asian businessman. He wasn’t at all ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/16 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Would you turn a relative in to the police?I'm going to have to suspend disbelief on several fronts to answer this one. The best predictor of future violent behavior is past violent behavior. It's therefore hard to imagine a scenario where the violence is simultaneously unjustified and highly unlikely to be repeated. But, okay, fine, under all the conditions you listed, there's no way I'd rat a family member out. I might not even rat a stranger out under those conditions. Ideally, I want the aim of the criminal justice system to be rehab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/16 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Help me empathize with male incelsAt this point I'm just curious as to whether you'll accept that there isn't even a shred of bitterness or anger on my part. As a soft-science-loving, pacifistic, humanistic SJW, I feel a pull to respect and validate your self-identification as "not angry." You have every right to define your own subjective experience as you see fit. I mean if there was real bitterness and anger I'd be out of the game. Some of the shit you guys say and do makes me want to strangle you and if a guy did any of that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/16 10:48 PM |
| 2 | how many guys aged 30 do you think had a double digit partners count?Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/16 02:59 PM |
| 2 | how many guys aged 30 do you think had a double digit partners count?Hey, this might seem weird but it's been on my mind all morning: my response to you being from Sweden was not cool. I get nostalgic sometimes for the time I spent in Denmark. We used to diss on Swedes back then for pronouncing their consonants, attending to personal grooming, and not being alcoholic enough. But, as a now-sober, English-speaking, bisexual female, my comment to you was especially unfair and random. Ursäkta/undskyld. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/16 12:07 PM |
| 3 | [Q4BP] Those of you who say that being [nice] / [a decent human] is not an advantage, but just a baseline expectation, what do you think of this fact?I like this comment because it's so true to my experiences. Women who are or have been assholes (myself included) can attest that some men are attracted to that behavior especially, just the same as some women are. It's less talked about though. Perhaps these men get less sympathy when they discuss their self-destructive romantic leanings. Or maybe men are reluctant to describe themselves as victims and will therefor often gloss over unhealthy relationship dynamics. For example, they might frame… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/16 03:04 AM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] Those of you who say that being [nice] / [a decent human] is not an advantage, but just a baseline expectation, what do you think of this fact?Being "nice" can mean a lot of different things in an erotic sense. Like, maybe I'm nice because I never do anything that might cause my partner pain (including the potential emotional pain that might arise, were I to use objectifying language in the bedroom); or maybe I'm nice because I double check that my partner still has circulation in their hands after four hours handcuffed to the bed getting fucked intermittently during commercial breaks (because I'll be damned if I'm missing the ballgame… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/16 01:48 AM |
| 9 | What TRP gets wrong about "assholes" and getting laidYour post inspired me to fuck around a bit on Google Scholar. Now I'm back from a very cursory search of the literature half agreeing with you and and half not. I'll start with the things confirming (or not directly contradicting) the RP stance: While women tend to report a romantic preference for more agreeable sexual partners, less agreeable males tend to report having had more female sexual partners. This is in keeping with the RP hypothesis that women say they like nice guys, then go fuck as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/16 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Help me empathize with male incelsNah, I'm in a committed LTR. You think that makes a difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/16 12:23 AM |
| 4 | Help me empathize with male incelsActually, I did "take a gander" at your post history. It was disappointingly dull. Mostly I was just reading the same (presumable emotion-driven) opinion -- "women are whores" -- stated over and over again in different contexts. I hoped you might be more interesting to me -- abrasive guys are usually interesting to me. If nothing else, I like that you converse mostly by way of disagreeing with people. So, unless you're gaining something from this conversation that I'm unaware of, let's cut it sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Help me empathize with male incelsSo what, you just want feel-good affirmation from manginas that you're not in fact a monstrous, sociopathic whore? No, but I am morbidly curious about you. Any empathy is gone now. Your beliefs as they're expressed are self-fulfilling prophesies. Which is fine by me at this point. I'm just curious who or what did this to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 05:30 PM |
| 3 | Help me empathize with male incelsI come here to chat with charming people like yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Help me empathize with male incelsYeah, you're reading it wrong because I wrote it wrong. I was hanging with a porn star in a public restroom (long story). I was not in Texas Vibrator Massacre myself (although, admittedly, I did find it pretty entertaining for a mostly vanilla porno). The word "costar" is very misleading. There were a lot of actresses in that movie and I didn't want to imply that the faux-female-ejaculator whom I spoke to had the lead role. She was super awesome in person though, all peeing and fake orgasms asid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 04:49 PM |
| 3 | Help me empathize with male incelsWoah, shit, I didn't mean to offend you that badly. And please don't try to convince me you're not angry again. If this is what you're like when you're not angry, then you will not find mutual happiness with another person. Just let me give you the bennefit of the doubt on this one. Let me believe you're angry, rather than just irreparably toxic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 04:37 PM |
| 1 | how many guys aged 30 do you think had a double digit partners count?I'm from Sweden. Are we still talking about straight guys fucking girls? Here in the US, I find that straight men tend to discount homosexual encounters when tallying up their n, even if their conquests were all pretty and sharply dressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 03:45 PM |
| 2 | how many guys aged 30 do you think had a double digit partners count?Did they specify "heterosexual"? On a side note: I love your math. It's rare to see numerical arguments written out so clearly and concisely on Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 03:32 PM |
| 1 | how many guys aged 30 do you think had a double digit partners count?Aww, come on. We don't bight much, and everyone knows hate sex is great sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Help me empathize with male incelsPorn is real. I'll always remember how I lost my innocence. I was in a public restroom with one of the female costars from Texas Vibrator Massacre and we were joking across the stalls as girls do. Then, suddenly, she mentioned how much Evian she'd need to drink for her squirting scene the next day. It's pee. It's not an orgasm. It's just pee from an (albeit very well-hydrated) actress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Help me empathize with male incelsThis makes much more sense to me, both based on what I've observed in men and on my own subjective experience. Involuntary celibacy must be very different than the apathetic celibacy I've enjoyed at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 02:55 PM |
| 3 | Help me empathize with male incelsThis is exactly what I was looking for. The more I reread it, the more it makes sense. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 02:50 PM |
| 4 | Help me empathize with male incelsI wish I could convince you that you're using an objective scientific phenomenon (evolution) to rationalize subjective observations (female heartlessness.) I'd find this conversation less hurtful if you could understand that. As it stands, your willingness to tell a stranger that she lacks empathy strikes me as really paradoxically heartless. I'm sure you don't intend it that way but, seriously, do you think I'm intentionally lying or that I'm living a lie? If you think I'm intentionally lying a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 02:40 PM |
| 0 | Help me empathize with male incelsYeah, I'm a lot more cerebral with what turns me on. Like, just making up a story with the right plot elements can work. But, all things aside, big butts are awesome. Even sans testosterone, I second you on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Help me empathize with male incelsI sort of assumed he was talking about invisible minorities. Like, others might not know who the incels are but the incels themselves are acutely aware of their own status. And, in some ways, I figure being an invisible minority can be more exhausting than being a visible minority. For example, as an invisible minority, you can live your life expecting the worst from people without giving them a chance to prove you wrong. And, without visibility, you might also easily underestimate the number of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 09:09 AM |
| 2 | Help me empathize with male incelsFor me, I just don't trust my friends to like each other. If we hang socially, odds are you're an acquired taste like me. When friends of mine who don't know one another come together, they sometimes seem mismatched in terms of weirdness, like two non-complimentary puzzle pieces. Also, I'm especially fond of socially awkward women and so, when I find them, I tend to covet them myself. Again, just to reiterate: I'm a shit wing-woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 08:54 AM |
| 2 | Help me empathize with male incelsAgreed on both fronts. For me as well, having had sex seems to make masturbation all the more enjoyable. I guess I sort of compare myself to other people whom I've had sex with. And I'm good at getting myself off (years of practice) so I'm always extra pleased with my performance. Had I never had sex, masturbation wouldn't hold the same meaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 08:22 AM |
| 1 | The reason "incels" think fat, ugly white women can have sex with "desirable" men is that they don't understand the role of race or class in "desirability"lowest tier men in the Anglosphere Are we talking "lowest tier" based on SMV or some other bizarre subjective metric? Because if we're talking straight-up SMV, I suspect Black guys would rank pretty high, especially assuming non-White women get a vote. And if we're not talking SMV, then, Jesus fuck, I should probably bow out of this conversation with my peace of mind intact before someone makes a case for eugenics. I mean, you know me well enough to know I won't bow out. But I totally would, wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 06:01 AM |
| 4 | Help me empathize with male incelsYeah, that was really pretty brilliant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 05:05 AM |
| 2 | Help me empathize with male incelsHaha, yeah. Sad but true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Help me empathize with male incelsThe stigma piece does strike me as pretty toxic. I've seen incels get shamed, dismissed, and overlooked. And, especially when we define "incel" strictly as "involuntary celibate," we're talking about a very diverse crowd with some really fucking awesome members. On behalf of society, for what it's worth, I'm sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 04:54 AM |
| 3 | Help me empathize with male incelsOne of the big components is intimacy and validation, you can't get that masturbating. Yeah, that makes sense. Maybe my big problem is that I wish I could always without fail validate people whom I like platonically, without using my vagina. Because I won't use my vagina on people whom I'm not sexually attracted to. But some of those people are really cool. And, as a female, I am perhaps more used to having the upper hand in social situations, so being unable to fix the problem sans vagina leave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Help me empathize with male incelsYeah, I've heard transmen talk about the spike in libido when they start testosterone. I find my libido fluctuates without testosterone supplements but spikes in sex drive seldom leave me more desirous of sex. I just tend to use my cellphone data a little more freely during the spikes. It makes me wonder if there's something especially utilitarian about the sexual instincts that testosterone induces. It might just be a set of drives that I have to appreciate, even though I don't personally "get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Help me empathize with male incelsIt's a chemical reaction, and it will go away in a few years. Absent yourself for this period and when you return, he'll be able to feel attraction without strong pain, and a non-sexual friendship can bloom. I really like this advice. It happened for me this way with a high school friend. I mean, it wasn't perfect -- he shifted his attention from me to my (now ex-) girlfriend. But the point still stands: after several years' angst and another several years' hiatus, we were able to hang out as fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 04:15 AM |
| 3 | Help me empathize with male incelsI wouldn't tell my actual incel friends to jack off. That's what the internet is for: being an insensitive jerk with anonymity. I used to fancy myself a good wing-woman but I tended to just make out with all the girls myself. Now that I'm sober, I seldom have opportunities to play wing-woman anymore. I also lack single female friends. The best I can offer is my company, the occasional free dinner, and an unspoken promise to remain respectful (which also means refraining from waxing poetic about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 04:10 AM |
| 5 | Help me empathize with male incelsYeah, when I convince myself that the pain experienced by incels really stems from a desire for connectedness and fears of rejection, then I can 100% relate. The problem is, I see this as the human condition -- we all want connection and fear rejection -- so it seems unlikely to me that sex will solve the problem. I guess I empathize to a point but then their solution leaves me confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 04:01 AM |
| 3 | Help me empathize with male incelsFor guys I would compare masterbating to eating instant noodles or a bland homemade sandwich, once in a blue moon it tastes great but for every other day you're just doing it cause you're just hungry. This makes a lot of sense. And if I were eating instant noodles out of economic necessity, and if some rich bitch started gushing about how she loves instant noodles too, I would find her comments neither cute nor comforting. So, in the same vein, maybe I should shut up about the joys of masturbati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Help me empathize with male incelsI guess I've always been pretty sexually independent in a way that makes no sense evolutionarily. I like what I like and I usually pursue it on my own time, without help from others. Come to think of it, perhaps the creeping irritation that I sometimes feel when reading about incels comes from a place of empathy, not a lack thereof. I spent years convinced I'd never find someone to be with because my sexuality was too fucked up. It was miserable. I guess, thinking back to that time, I can sort o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 03:40 AM |
| 8 | Help me empathize with male incelsYou're biologically incapable of sincere empathy Could you unpack this a little? You state it so casually, like it's something widely accepted, like "Tokyo is a long way from Detroit." Evolutionary arguments are interesting but I worry, in this context, you might be using them as post-hoc explanations for your subjective experience. You don't need pseudo-science to justify being unhappy. You have a perfect right to be unhappy without rationalizations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 03:19 AM |
| 1 | [Q4Women] Do you ever get tired of being feminine?I passed!!! Also, you rock, as loathe as I have been to say it sometimes :-) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/16 05:26 PM |
| 2 | [Q4Women] Do you ever get tired of being feminine?Hahahaha. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/16 12:29 AM |
| 5 | [Q4Women] Do you ever get tired of being feminine?I get tired reading comments written by other women and visualizing the daily makeup and haircare process that they go through in order to present themselves as feminine. I just keep my legs smooth and my hair somewhat detangled. On weekends, occasionally, I wear makeup. Even without the makeup, I do sometimes get tired of being feminine. Today, I spent all morning playing Florence Nightengale, rushing around, frowning compassionately at people, validating their concerns and reassuring them. I s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/16 12:07 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Many feminist misconceptions about gender relationships come from their lack of understanding about male sexuality.When you say "girl shredding a guitar," I picture someone with long, loose hair and and smokey eyes who doesn't give a shit. She's not just sexy, she's interesting and talented. When you say "nice tits," I picture a little girl in pigtails with her shirt up, grinning because holy shit she's popular now. Both girls are sexy but only the former girl is valued for something beyond sex appeal. Learn to talk about women whom you like in ways that make those women feel sexy, not because women deserve … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/16 11:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women do not like "swole" men.I'm going to hold off on saying something stupid about potential intrinsic rewards of 8-inch-cock-tracking (like train-spotting or bird-watching for cock). Or rather, I guess I'm going to allude to it but not quite say it, then half-assedly apologize for almost saying it. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/16 09:19 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Women do not like "swole" men.Yeah, this is a problem. Can we trust you to track the 8-inch cocks for us? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/16 08:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women do not like "swole" men.Does he have big brother? If so, I'd top him. Guys who are that preoccupied by their appearance make better subs than they do Doms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/16 08:54 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women do not like "swole" men.I would find him attractive but the duck face kills it. To me, "swoll" looks tasty but bizarre, like butt implants on a girl, or chocolate-covered bacon on an otherwise run-of-the-mill cupcake. I'd try it for the novelty, and I'd probably like it, but that doesn't mean I think it looks healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/16 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Why the heck would anyone want to be a woman?It's odd how easily we can list off drawbacks to being what we are and bennefits to being what we're not. I've thought about experimenting a little more outside the gender binary myself, but not because I don't like being female. I just like masculinity a lot. Among my gender queer friends in California, there was someone with third person plural pronouns who was just so open-minded, empathetic, and easy going. It made me think, maybe gender is really that simple. Like, not only do you not have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/16 04:28 AM |
| 7 | Q4 Women/BP: What do you think the average day is like for most men?Thank you! I actually googled "average penis size." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/16 09:34 PM |
| 7 | Q4 Women/BP: What do you think the average day is like for most men?Thanks!!! I hope your extended family loves dick jokes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/16 09:32 PM |
| 6 | Q4RP: What do you think a day in the life of a woman is like?I know damn well what she's talking about. At least, I hope I do. Blanchard's transsexualism typography is really interesting, if somewhat discomfiting to anyone who's ever spoken out against transphobia. That's where my brain goes when I hear "autogynophilia." Fortunately, my brain doesn't go to the blog post you linked to. At least, it didn't. Now that I've skimmed it, I feel slightly more stupid. I mean, it was interesting, and I'm grateful for the link, but I've never read such a bizarre mix… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/16 09:18 PM |
| 57 | Q4 Women/BP: What do you think the average day is like for most men?I assume a day in the life of an average guy looks a lot like a day in the life of the average person, were that person to have a penis: I wake up with a hard-on. My penis is exactly 5.1 inches long. It deflates through weird penis magic so that I can use it to pee standing up (unless I'm German which I'm not because that would be weird). Afterward, I brush my teeth, shower, and wash my penis. I rub my penis on a towel. It feels like terry cloth against my penis. Once I'm dressed, I eat breakfas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/16 08:41 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: What do you think a day in the life of a woman is like?This sounds exactly like what I'd write if I had no empathy or social conscience. I grudgingly respect you but I can't upvote you. In fact, now I have to virtue signal like a Tumblrina, just to purify myself: Nerdy transwoman are awesome people. You're talking about my friends here -- people I respect and care about. I think I'm being sincere. I'm certainly not lying. But you've got me so switched around, I can't tell if I'm being me or a bizarro version of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/16 08:14 PM |
| 16 | Q4RP: What do you think a day in the life of a woman is like?Does anyone else get the sense that some of these day-in-the-life posts are bizarre variations of describe-your-ideal-day posts? I don't mean to imply that the posters want to take sexy selfies and get fucked by Chads. It just reminds me so much of the old Sci-Fi trope (also common to manga and anime): "Holy shit, I woke up with tits and a vagina! Let's flaunt them to get popular!" To be fair, if someone were to ask me to describe a day in the life of an average guy, I'd probably talk about him … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/16 04:20 PM |
| 13 | Q4RP: What do you think a day in the life of a woman is like?zero criminal record, zero drama, no drug use And this is why we Reddit on a Friday night. God help us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/16 04:47 AM |
| 9 | How would you fix the 'boys crisis in education'?unless social science professors are able to demonstrate a level of academic rigour comparable with the hard sciences If wrangling chemical compounds was anywhere close to as difficult as wrangling human subjects, or if the reliability of thermometers and speedometers was anywhere close to as shitty as the reliability of psychometric tests, then maybe, maybe I might have some sympathy for your position. As it stands, you're basically arguing "let's get rid of semitrailers because they don't hand… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/16 09:33 PM |
| 6 | How would you fix the 'boys crisis in education'?Math classes taught by women who could not explain the purpose of operations. I encountered the same problem with male teachers and found it infuriating. Math is fucking awesome when taught right. I do think you have a point though about young women and girls being more prone to rule-following, meaning that they'll often be more comfortable enacting a seemingly random set of operations without any idea of the underlying function -- and, presumably, were they to become teachers, they'd also then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/16 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?Try considering the idea that perhaps the tone is part of a deliberate strategy to induce a particular mindset and presentation. Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/16 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Briffault's Law works both waysWow. Yeah, I honestly hadn't thought much about the evolutionary implications. That's a very good, very depressing point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/16 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?Thanks! Your response was genuinely funny. And, given your red flare, I'm gonna take "sir" as a compliment. I imagine my advice as like pudding laced with medicine. Maybe you tasted the blue pill, all crushed up and mixed in, but at least you didn't gag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/16 10:31 PM |
| 3 | Briffault's Law works both waysIf we included adult fan-fiction and online erotica under the umbrella of trashy romance, I'd be a little more inclined to agree with you. But, as it stands, I know about a dozen women who watch porn and not a single woman who reads romance novels. Admittedly, my sample is a little skewed toward pre-menopausal-but-post-pubescent sexually adventurous females. I just can't be fucked pulling up the stats on this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/16 12:44 AM |
| 4 | Briffault's Law works both wayssingular female ideal of a perfect mate we all know so well from romance novels I get a little skeptical whenever people describe female sexual desire as "singular." Actually, in comparison to men, women tend to get physically aroused by pretty much anything sex-related: naked men, naked women, even gorillas fucking. (Please note that the above hyperlink is not NCSF -- it leads to a peer-reviewed article, I promise.) Studies such as this one show that female self-report regarding sexual arousal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/16 12:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: incels are stuck because they have no abundance mentality.This is one of those stories that makes for a great anecdote and yet I'm really glad not to be the person telling it. My parents are getting older and the prospect of dementia both terrifies and fascinates me. How're you holding up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/16 01:09 AM |
| 1 | "Until we reassess what it means to be a “real man” then men will continue to beat their wives and murder LBGT people to ease their own self-loathing."Utilikilts! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/16 04:20 PM |
| 2 | "Until we reassess what it means to be a “real man” then men will continue to beat their wives and murder LBGT people to ease their own self-loathing."but men have to have a standard of masculinity, or else they are not men I think one difficulty in having these conversations with men is that you're all understandably more sensitized to gendered expectations around what being a man means. Likewise, I've known Black guys who talk passionately about what it's like to be judged "not Black enough" by their peers. From my perspective, as a female, it's easy for me to think, "yeah, but how cool would it be to be a big Black guy and just totally not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 10:21 PM |
| 5 | "Until we reassess what it means to be a “real man” then men will continue to beat their wives and murder LBGT people to ease their own self-loathing."The very fact that we have little focus on toxic femininity (which is equated with empowerment) yet have blurred the lines between all masculinity and toxic masculinity means it is not equal. Were we to use the word "toxic femininity" (which I sort of wish we did, just to keep things equal), I'd define it just as we define toxic masculinity, as a set of inflexible standards for feminine behavior that, when internalized, can be psychologically damaging to women. We've actually been chipping away … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Isn't negging just banter?I only recently came to this realization, although I suspect some people may find this a very obvious thing. Sometimes people, myself included, miss the obvious. Have an upvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?Even if you met on Tinder and your profile pic is a topless selfie it's "I'm just looking to make friends and have fun". Haha, true. I used to pull the same shit on dating profiles, back in the pre-Tinder era. For me personally, the conflict wasn't about being percieved as a "slut." I just wanted excitement and attention without a sense of sexual obligation. Feel free to label that as selfish -- whatever -- wbut I do think it speaks to a successful strategy for men (and women) seeking casual sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 05:06 PM |
| 2 | "Until we reassess what it means to be a “real man” then men will continue to beat their wives and murder LBGT people to ease their own self-loathing."This is what makes men, en masse, better than women, and what makes women's advice completely worthless. This seems like an unexpected jump in logic. Can you walk me through what you define as "better" and what you view as "the right thing to do"? Would you say the right thing varies situationally or is one set way of being invariably "right"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?If you're genuinely "all up in the SF kink game," then I'm off in my assumptions about the SF kink game, not just in my assumptions about you. As a female, my impressions are obviously skewed, but I remember the SF kink scene as a utopia for weird horny guys, assuming they were nice and respectful toward others. I'm don't mean to imply that you're not nice and respectful but I'm also genuinely confused about where the problem is. Are you upset that you're not getting play at all or are you upset… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?If you're talking about the Kink.com studios, check out the Citadel. Just don't go in with an endgame. Act curious but not aggressively so, like you're "just looking." If you hang out long enough and are chill enough, someone will eventually volunteer to be your tour guide. Bonus points if you're a switch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 04:23 PM |
| 1 | "Until we reassess what it means to be a “real man” then men will continue to beat their wives and murder LBGT people to ease their own self-loathing."Absolutely. And I agree it's unfortunate. Sexy is often at odd with healthy, especially on an emotional level. We talk about this a lot in the context of women, learning to act "cute" or "fun" because that's what's sexy usually to other people. But we talk about it less in the context of men, learning to act "strong" and "dominant." I am by no means telling you to change your views or who you find attractive, but you've explained how it isn't healthy to be like this yet...you find it attractive.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?cultural superiority complex Okay, yeah, I completely deserved that. My last comment was really just a subtle diss on the United States Midwest (where I live currently.) If you're in a big city though, I do feel more optimistic that you might find a sex-positive community of people with whom you have something in common. What types of apps, websites, and venues have you tried so far? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 03:59 PM |
| 4 | "Until we reassess what it means to be a “real man” then men will continue to beat their wives and murder LBGT people to ease their own self-loathing."women need to adjust their preferences I could actually quite fancy the RP conception of a "real man" -- everything short of "dominant in the bedroom" (I prefer to switch things up.) My concern is that a lot of the hyper-masculine guys whom I treat as a clinician are suffering deeply, oftentimes seemingly as a result of their adherence to unreasonable and inflexible standards around male unemotionality and lack of connectedness. So, yeah, physically imposing, stoic, independent males are attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?Tit for tat with forgiveness is actually a great way to handle casual dating in situations where your partner's SMV is higher than yours. If they lose interest in you, shift your interest elsewhere. Then, if they express interest at a later date (assuming you're still down to fuck), return their interest up until they get distracted again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?But everyone does lie about it. Get your ass to a large, metropolitan city and stop pursuing girls in yoga pants and Ugg boots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 02:28 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?No offense but your mom has terrible advice. Nonsense. My mom has excellent advice. On making friends: "Well, sex is a good way to meet people." On handling professional criticism: "Kill them." And on vice: "It's been so long since your father and I last tried marijuana, I forgot to inhale." Well, I guess that last one was me giving advice to her. The point is that my mom is awesome, if occasionally misguided. With regard to being open about wanting casual sex: the way you communicate this will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 02:21 PM |
| 9 | Q4BP: what non-PUA/RP advice would you give a struggling male who's goal is to spin plates while giving as little commitment as possible?There are some overlaps between good, generic advice and PAU/RP advice; and, since I don't pretend to be an expert on the latter, you'll have to forgive me if my good, generic advice borders on RP principles. First and foremost, maintain balance: exercise, non-sexual friendships, and meaningful responsibilities (be it through challenging work or a commitment to family). If a guy gains his self-worth solely from sex with women, women will sense this and find it off-putting. Demonstrate sexual int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/16 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Both Pills: is there a masculinity crisis in the West?Ah, thank you. That does make more sense. I'd still be curious to hear an example of a male historical figure (be he fictitious or dead) who didn't possess some vulnerability. But I think the meat of our disagreement centers around your third bullet point. we differ on our stance on the virtuosity of said vulnerability, and for what groups it constitutes a virtue. I agree with you that vulnerability is not a virtue, not for anybody, male or female. Vulnerability is a fact of life. How we cope wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/16 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Both Pills: is there a masculinity crisis in the West?I guess I lapsed into hyperbole to entertain myself because I'm not clear what we're arguing. In my previous post, I teased you for implying that "maleness requires perfect and unwavering invulnerability." I expected you to backpedal but, instead, you seem to have owned this stance. So now I'm just curious where the disconnect between our viewpoints is, not because I want to pursuade you of anything, but because I genuinely don't know where you're coming from. Either we differ on our deffinition… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/16 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Society's treatment sex-crime - is it adequate?Mad props for posting the dissenting opinion on a thread where the topic hits close to home. I'm really grateful for your comment. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/16 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: How do view biological sex/gender/masculinity/femininity/etc.?sexy If you insist! I knew there must be a good reason why I stayed unshowered and pantsless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 04:13 PM |
| 7 | Q4BP: How do view biological sex/gender/masculinity/femininity/etc.?Why do RPWs have a subreddit if marriage is just a social construct? Why don't we all quit our awful jobs if money is just a social construct? Why am I unshowered and pantsless at 11:30 a.m. if "Saturday" is just a social construct? And why can't I stop shitposting and karma-whoring if upvotes are just social constructs? I mean, seriously, why? I'm gonna go shower now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: How do view biological sex/gender/masculinity/femininity/etc.?Dude, no fair! We lost the cool post with the Bo Diddley link: "I'm a man, I spell M-A-N, man!" And here I was about to post the grandfather of rock'n'roll's response to that assertion. We could have gotten a flame war going comprised entirely of awesome music :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 03:21 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: How do view biological sex/gender/masculinity/femininity/etc.?No links to genuinely funny webcomics! I'm supposed to be all done with internet for the day. Instead, I'm upvoting and simultaneously cursing you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 01:53 PM |
| 7 | Q4BP: How do view biological sex/gender/masculinity/femininity/etc.?What do you see as innate and what are social constructs and/or mentalities? My recollection from undergrad is that, by definition, sex is innate whereas gender refers to the socially constructed roles and identities which are related but not strictly tied to sex. (See? Liberal arts degrees aren't pointless.) Can men be women or women be men? You can be whatever you put your mind to, sweetie. Your mom and I will support you 100%. Are there similarities? Yes. Is everyone individually different? Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 07:11 AM |
| 2 | Both Pills: is there a masculinity crisis in the West?Actually, you're fucking it up plenty well without help from the feminists. The creepiest part is that I'm a feminist myself. We're everywhere, covertly emasculating men with bizarre ideas like "sometimes it's okay to ask for help." And I am pleased to hear you've bought into the idea that maleness requires perfect and unwavering invulnerability. It's a great variation on the propaganda that militant rad fems used to disseminate about men being all-powerful by virtue of their affiliation with th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 03:03 AM |
| 3 | CMV: An Incel is a bad category and statistic because you can easily opt out.I second the OP. One has to self-identify as incel; it's up to the individual to define what they do and do not do voluntarily. With that said, I don't think that personal identity is impossible to study, just because it's personal. You run into a similar problem when researching sexual orientation: should we include the people who engage in same-sex behavior but who round up to "straight" under the LGB umbrella? If we do include those people, what about the ones who do self-identify as LGB but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 01:31 AM |
| 2 | Both Pills: is there a masculinity crisis in the West?After reading your post, I got curious about the interaction between gender, parenting style, and psychopathology: for example, do the same parenting styles impact boys and girls differently? I couldn't find much on this question, although I'm sure the research is out there. My search did turn up a fair bit about how differences in parenting might mediate the relationship between gender and accademic achievement. There were several suggestions as to why girls tend to do better in school: parents… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/16 11:40 PM |
| 3 | Both Pills: is there a masculinity crisis in the West?If that's how the feminists whom you know use this term, they're fucking it up. Toxic masculinity refers to societal standards and assumptions about maleness that are harmful to men. You can be tough as fuck without falling victim to toxic masculinity. Think of a male Navy Seal who's sexually assaulted and pursues the case or a man who fights a false DV charge to gain custody of his child. Toxic masculinity teaches you to walk away because men can't be victims. In contrast, true strength require… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/16 10:47 PM |
| 2 | Both Pills: is there a masculinity crisis in the West?Couldn't it be both? For women, the problems stem from the mixed messages, not the high bar for feminin behavior: for example, society teaches women to be sexy but shames them for being sluts. Likewise, toxic masculinity teaches men to be "aggressive" but then they're shunned for being "dangerous." Another example would be simultaneously tending to men's emotions while, at the same time, invalidating them. Like, sometimes we coddle male children, even as we shame them for acting "depressed" and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/16 10:32 PM |
| 5 | Both Pills: is there a masculinity crisis in the West?Toxic masculinity, as feminists define it, and a lack of masculinity, as the RP defines it, are not mutually exclusive phenomena. The term "toxic masculity" has been misapplied (or misinterpreted) to mean that masculinity is toxic, as if men carry some kind of terrible communicable disease. It's really intended to refer to the societal assumptions about men that, at times, prove harmful to men: "real men don't express feelings," "a real man is never a victim," "real men always love surprise sex,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/16 10:01 PM |
| 3 | Both Pills: is there a masculinity crisis in the West?What is the "feminist sense of the phrase" in your opinion? My sense is that a lot of people misunderstand the term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/16 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Why is the ratio of clinical depression between women and men in the USA almost 2:1?I decided to run it as a script on my computer: not_a_pussy == true while (not_a_pussy == True): getting_pussy == True while (getting_pussy == True): not_a_pussy == True if (getting_pussy == True): print "I just fucked a bitch!" Print "Hate myself" The script was surprisingly fun and efficient, given that I've never programmed anything before. It ran for a long time too. But then print: "hate myself" never got executed for some reason and it all terminated by opening up this weird STD.exe file. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/16 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Why is the ratio of clinical depression between women and men in the USA almost 2:1?Right. But might part of the reason they want pussy be that they don't want to be percieved as the kind of pussy who can't get lots of pussy? In other words, might there be a reciprocal relationship between these two pussy-related imperatives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/16 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Why is the ratio of clinical depression between women and men in the USA almost 2:1?This is excellent. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/16 05:51 AM |
| 3 | Why is the ratio of clinical depression between women and men in the USA almost 2:1?To be fair, your comments don't always provide a very clear picture of where you want those goal posts set to begin with. Maybe we set our own because yours aren't visible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/16 05:47 AM |
| 4 | Why is the ratio of clinical depression between women and men in the USA almost 2:1?I can't speak to this question very well as a female. But, as someone who has sometimes wished that I could turn off open displays of emotion, I suspect there's more to it than bangability. When I'm worrying about my own emotionality, I'm thinking more about my social status and less about my SMV -- the two things are closely related, perhaps especially for guys, but social status is the broader term. I don't think guys avoid exhibiting signs of depression just because they want pussy, I think t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/16 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Why is the ratio of clinical depression between women and men in the USA almost 2:1?Yeah, that sounds like a more judicious, less blame-y way to say what he said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/16 05:30 AM |
| 9 | Why is the ratio of clinical depression between women and men in the USA almost 2:1?I get the sense, people on this thread are responding to your data with two points. First, depression may be under-diagnosed in men due to the way that men have been taught to express (or not express) their feelings. Since depression diagnoses are usually based on clinical interviews without collateral data, it would be extremely difficult for studies to correct for this tendency. Second, men don't just talk about their feelings differently, they also cope with them differently. They're more lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/16 05:26 AM |
| 1 | RP and BP: What is your political typology?This legitimately sounds fun, which probably reflects poorly on me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/16 03:02 AM |
| 1 | RP and BP: What is your political typology?99% Clinton 98% Bernie I am way too straight-edge liberal Democrat. I mean, I worry that, by never having experimented with the Republican Party, maybe I'm missing out on something. Like maybe I'll never get to hoard firearms, meet Jesus, or try methamphetamines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/16 02:27 AM |
| 2 | Have you ever known a guy who was rejected, in person for being too muscular?I think of muscular guys like fancy sports cars. You obviously at least want to try driving them, and probably like how they feel and look, yet you will always be afraid of someone stealing it or damaging it, or the gas milage on it. Exactly. This is why, rather than committing to the long-term maintenance costs and hassle, you take a couple joyrides in your early twenties. It's also why, as much as you love and respect the aesthetic, you can't help but to imagine the newest sporty model all fuc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/16 06:52 PM |
| 2 | "Relationships are a zero sum game" is an evolutionarily impossible phenomenon.the fuck? Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/16 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Elliot would have got laid if he tried. Agree? Disagree?Prior to discovering the PPD, I read Roger Elliot's manifesto two times over. He was definitely mentally ill, but there are plenty of people with more reality-altering psychological impairments who get laid in spite of their disability. His manifesto was helpful to me because it described a mental obsession which was so painful and all-encompassing that it narrowed his reality down to a pinpoint of rage and repressed shame. I tend to get obsessive about shit myself so it wasn't difficult for me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/16 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Should we change the rape laws to include degrees of rape?I don't know what type of rape shouldn't be a felony. I guess, for me, it depends how you define "rape" (sketchy as that undoubtedly sounds.) My understanding is that, in some states, pre-negotiated and mutually enjoyed sex between an 18-year-old and a 15-year-old would be defined as statutory rape. I'm avoiding the word "consensual" because that concept seems so murky when talking about age-of-consent laws. And, while I would not be particularly impressed by an 18-year-old who fucked a 15-year-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Question to all: Women shaming small penis menNo idea. I ask for ass pics myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Question to all: Women shaming small penis menAgain, I'm a sample size of one here so we can't draw many conclusions. However, I've deffinitely complimented multiple guys on their dick size without it being a make-or-break for me sexually. Think of is as the female equivalent of "you have beautiful eyes" -- sure, I assume guys who say that genuinely like my eyes but it does seem like a compliment intended more to please me, rather than to communicate genuine pleasure. "Wow, nice dick" is similar -- yeah, you probably have a nice dick -- but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 04:25 PM |
| 2 | "Relationships are a zero sum game" is an evolutionarily impossible phenomenon.If relationships were a zero-sum game, they wouldn't have evolved. I strongly second u/future_space_boobs: to some people, oftentimes based on past relationship history, relations can seem zero sum. Which begs the question: why engage at all? I think it's for the same reason that poor people play the lottery: desperation. If I need $300 dollars to cover rent, and if I have $3, paying $2 for a lottery ticket is a good short-term strategy because, in the short-term, having $1 and having $3 leaves … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Question to all: Women shaming small penis menSee, this is the thing: guys seem to be more turned on by bigger dicks in porn; women, not so much. I wonder if a lot of male fear around this issue centers around our tendency to assume that other people think like us. For example, the idea of a totally straight (maybe even somewhat homophobic) guy getting turned on by big dicks is actually a turn on for me. Like, I knew an otherwise straight guy who was really into big dicks (not just big dick porn) and I thought it was the hottest thing ever.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 03:16 PM |
| 6 | Womens sexual and physical safety is affected by societies treatment of women.There is an underlying theme of the "world is out to get me" coming from specific groups of men, just not men the whole. Likewise, I'd argue that not all women subscribe to "the world is out to get me" worldview. I feel pretty privileged as a white female in an urban setting; cops don't hassle me, older people look out for me, and a confident-but-friendly attitude goes a long way for me. Plenty of good guys adopt the "world is out to get me" stance: poor or working-class white guys who don't tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 02:39 PM |
| 3 | Womens sexual and physical safety is affected by societies treatment of women.I don't have an air-tight opinion. It's very difficult to debate pro-lifers because the fundimental deffinitions tend to differ. Who am I to say when life begins? My friend, who is a very lovable asshole, had a great response to the abortion debate. He said he attended a lecture where a scientist made an excellent argument for why unborn fetuses are living human beings. Now, my friend's social skills aren't great but, in this case, he said he knew better than to ask what he was thinking: "Okay, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 02:14 PM |
| 3 | Womens sexual and physical safety is affected by societies treatment of women.Right -- I mean, I think it's essential that we don't minimize violence against women in our efforts to raise awareness about violence against men -- but violence against men is often overlooked or minimized. My understanding is that the stats you cite regarding the gender breakdown of sexual victimization vary heavily, depending on your definitions and data-collection methods. But, even then, even if the rates aren't equal, we do seem to massively underestimate the prevalence of sexual violence… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Womens sexual and physical safety is affected by societies treatment of women."Abortion murder"? Sheeit. Are you telling me my grandma killed my unborn uncle? Fuck that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 01:46 PM |
| 7 | Womens sexual and physical safety is affected by societies treatment of women.I second u/StickItInTheToilet. They responded to an earlier comment from the OP with a brief explanation of how stats are shaped by underlying contextual factors (e.g., urban v. suburban, acquaintance v. stranger, drug- v. non-drug-related). I have a friend who worked in an inner city ER who noted that some of guys identified as victims of violent crime were guys who got shot first in a shoot-out, meaning that they could have just as well been perpetrators (if only their aim was better). Then ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 01:23 PM |
| 3 | [Q4BP] Why Are Deep Voices Attractive In MenI could get behind the testosterone theory. There's also definitely also some socialization involved -- I doubt I'm genetically predisposed to smell rainwater and bourbon when I hear a sexy deep voice. Incidentally, my voice is a tad lower then most girls. I get compliments on it sometimes but I'm not sure if those are whatevs-I-want-to-fuck-you compliments or damn-that's-genuinely-hot compliments. I personally like it when a girl has a really high voice or a low hoarse-but-feminine-sounding voi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 08:39 AM |
| 3 | Dating advice for men. Why is "be uncomplicated" rarely mentioned?Stoic is sexy when their are more complex feelings underneath (imagine an emotional strip tease). Emotional expressiveness is sexy when feelings are mostly positive and straight-forward (a genuine smile or a laugh can go a long way). Imagine emotional vulnerability as similar to a dick; a bulge in the pants is great but don't flash it in public; in private, it's your best asset, unless you unexpectedly assault people with it. And, even though I'm for some reason talking about dicks, I believe th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?Kink existed before Jesus. It most likely existed before written language. I guess I misspoke earlier. What I meant to say was that, just within the past 50 years, it's becoming more visible and increasingly depathologized. Obviously, we didn't invent it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/16 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Hahahaaha hey bluepillers, get a load of these white knights! What do YOU all make of them?I wiki'd Zoe Quinn and there wasn't anything damning about her there. I suspect the people involved in gamer gate would argue that that Wiki page was biased. I'm pretty culturally out-of-touch. What did she do that was so harmful? Her game -- Depression Quest -- sounds pretty cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/16 02:15 AM |
| 2 | Hahahaaha hey bluepillers, get a load of these white knights! What do YOU all make of them?Hey now. You're currently engaged in conversation with a SJW :) My hope for the kids who take it to the extreme is that they grow into relatively saner adults (I myself identifying as a saner adult, relative to my younger self.) This is also my hope for kids on the the Alt-Right. Oddly, it sound as if, when you think of someone with borderline PD, you envision an extremely hot, extremely dangerous, vindictive SJW ex-girlfriend. Whereas, when I envision someone with borderline PD, I imagine a wel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Is it correct to call sexual liberation progressive?In your example, their kinks, identities orientation are progressive. I'd definitely say homosexuality and lesbianism are progressive. Their sexual "liberation" however, their extroversion about sex, or their lack of inhibition about sex are not progressive. I guess I see sexual identity and sexual liberation as so closely intertwined that it's hard for me to differentiate between the two phenomena. When cultures become more sexually liberated, I think a whole new set of norms and expectations t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 11:16 PM |
| 1 | why is it that TRP supports trump unanimously ?I sometimes like to imagine TRP makes precisely the right decisions to hold my attention. Trump is amusing and a little scary; so is TRP. I mean, it does all seem a little excessive; I'd be riveted just the same if TRP stuck strictly to fucking females and hating on feminism. But entertainment is inherently excessive. And if I feed it by playing audience to it, what right do I have to complain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Is it correct to call sexual liberation progressive?I see two counters to your argument. One is the point already made by others: progressive from what? Single cell organisms engaged in asexual reproduction so maybe, as a more evolved species, engaging in sexual reproduction is actually progressive behavior. The second argument centers around that word you used: "complex" -- I like that. The laws that govern sex-positive culture are incredibly complex and convoluted. Have you ever listened to a kinky, polyamorous person talk through the rules and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 10:43 PM |
| 3 | Hahahaaha hey bluepillers, get a load of these white knights! What do YOU all make of them?Funny; my boyfriend also spent a lot of time worrying about whether he had narcissistic personality disorder. I'd argue that, much like delusional disorder, if you're worrying about it, chances are you don't have it. You made a good case for the borderline Nice Guy (TM). I've also known some hyper-masculine self-styled "alphas" with the borderline diagnosis. Thank God I encounter them mostly in work settings where my libido is (for the most part) on mute. Male or female, a good-looking person wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Hahahaaha hey bluepillers, get a load of these white knights! What do YOU all make of them?In all seriousness, as a psychologist, I am in constant fear of having a personality disorder. The unfortunate thing is that there is no clear demarcation between functional and dysfunctional -- everyone will have some dysfunctional personality traits. I do have friends who've been diagnosed with personality disorders, and my mom was diagnosed with a personality disorder in her teens (but, then again, who doesn't have a disordered personality during their teen years?) I'm fortunate in that the p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Hahahaaha hey bluepillers, get a load of these white knights! What do YOU all make of them?Nonsense. You cannot diagnose a personality disorder based on someone's gender politics. Anyway, RP guys are clearly the ones with borderline personality disorder: unstable sense of self, sexual compulsivity, frantic efforts to avoid abandonment (e.g., being "cucked" or "divorce raped"), difficulties with anger, and transient paranoid ideation (because feminism!) White knights have obsessive-compulsive personality disorder: preoccupation with rules and details, inflexibility in matters of morali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?Aw, thank you! And yeah, after posting, I did sort of worry about minimizing tragedy by comparing those two things, like comparing a hot day to the Holocaust. The thing that's always fascinated me is the fact that compassionate, everyday folks have the capacity to do evil things under the right (wrong?) circumstances. When it's one of our own, it's easy to dismiss them as outliers ("no true Scottsmen...") Or, in the unfortunate case that they aren't outliers, we can differentiate ourselves in so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 07:38 PM |
| 5 | CMV: The female equivalent of a male incel is a rape victim.You don't need to remain a virgin forever (and, in fact, if I recall correctly, you're not a virgin now.) You could always set up free sex on Craigslist. Admittedly, you'd most likely be having sex with other men. But, in this respect, you'd be opting out in the same way that female incels can opt out, by having sex with people whom you don't want to have sex with. I do strongly second you on seeing prostitutes. For some guys who want sex and can't get it, this is really the most compassionate o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?Yeah! There's a fine line between racism and cultural relativism! I find this especially within my line of work. I'm a young, over-educated White female who currently works primarily with poor, older Black men in an urban area. One thing we do is disseminate information about what constitutes a healthy diet. There's a strong Southern influence in the Rust Belt and the food here is fucking delicious. But, were I to say, "fuck it, soul food is so tasty, you overweight guys can just keep eating lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?Ah, see, I'm a socially progressive modern American liberal (AKA, a "SJW"). That means that the idea that we have a moral obligation to intervene in "less culturally advanced places" strikes me as a little neocolonialist which I percieve as disempowering and potentially destabilizing (although not inherently evil). Simultaneously, as an SJW (and, more generally, as a member of the human race), I am disturbed by world news regarding human rights abuses in countries that lack the infrastructure to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Is "mansplaining" the result of the burden of performance?Yeah, I got that term thrown in my general direction (there were a lot of people on the comment thread) for questioning whether illustrations and fictional stories about illegal sexual activity are actually unethical. Like, are all the people who produce or repost that lolli shit on 4Chan actually engaging in sexually abusive behavior? I'd argue: no, they're not. But I could see where the term "rape apologist" came from in that context; it's a controversial issue. I just wish the person who used… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?Point well taken! I'm editing my original comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?Ah, I confused Neo-Con with Alt Right. Those are two very different movements. Thank you for catching my mistake! For the record I love gay people For the record, now that I know what the term actually means, I do have neo-con friends. And I'm totally cool with their stance on foriegn policy and government spending. What they do in the privacy of voting booths is their business. No, but seriously, thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?Socially or fiscally? I'm not disagreeing. I just don't know as much as I'd like to about conservative politics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Is "mansplaining" the result of the burden of performance?I think you're making an interesting point about PC language. "Mansplaining," "check your privilege," "rape apologist" -- this language can unfortunately be used in an angry, non-constructive way to "choke off any discussion" (I like your wording there.) It's gotten to the point where terms like "rape apologist" even make me uncomfortable as a feminist. Which, I'd argue, is really unfortunate because that particular term speaks to a detrimental phenomenon that I need to remain personally aware o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 02:15 PM |
| 7 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?I guess I did assume you weren't getting as much sex as you'd like to be getting, just based on your writing style and the sentiments you were expressing. That was my bad. I am impressed to hear that you fuck like a duck. Did you know that muscovy ducks have 8-inch-long penises? That's rather large, especially for waterfowl. Sadly, I can't have dull, perfunctory marital coitus because I'm not married to anyone. I also can't fuck like a duck because I don't have a corkscrew-shaped dick, nor do I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 01:44 AM |
| 6 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?If you look back on letters to Playboy, historically a blowjob was a big deal. Now even anal sex and kink are becoming less taboo. I don't think you're irritated by the lack of sexual gratification in our culture -- or, if you are, you can thank your stars you're not stuck living 50 years ago. I suspect you're irritated by the proliferation of sexual gratification in our culture. They say people in poor but isolated areas are relatively happy; it's the income gap that causes emotional stress. No… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 01:15 AM |
| 6 | Q4BP: What do you think of the Red Pill saying "enjoy the decline"?"Enjoy the decline." "Oh, thank you! I will." But seriously, I don't see a decline at all. I just see us as a society becoming increasingly articulate around gender and sexuality. The manosphere is often pitted against this phenomenon but I'd argue it's a part of it. Alt-right folks* complain about the increasingly nuanced and emotionally-laden ways that we discuss sex and gender -- like, "why can't we just go back to a time when men were men and women shut the fuck up?!" But, by expressing frus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 12:54 AM |
| 1 | What would be your reaction if 90% of men in society absolutely refused to get married?This would be great for me! I have mad college loans from my Ph.D. but my boyfriend's loans are even worse than mine. Also, his parents inexplicably love me and keep baking me sweets. Sometimes, I worry how much of that familial love is linked to my ten-year earning potential (which they might well overestimate -- it's pretty sad when contrasted against those loans.) Anyway, point is, if alimony was eradicated and marriage was an exception to the norm, maybe I could get a clearer picture of his … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/16 09:38 PM |
| 3 | What would be your reaction if 90% of men in society absolutely refused to get married?Why would that be helpful? Because that's every RP guy's favoritist horror story ever. If I was terrified of jellyfish, I'd seek out stats about how often people get stung, either to reassure myself (assuming the odds of getting stung are slim) or -- more likely, knowing me -- so as to justify my fear as logical. Then, whenever a friend said, "hey, I'm going swimming in Hawaii this summer," I could say, "Oh shit, do you know the odds of getting stung by a jellyfish in Hawaii?" And then, if they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/16 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Does women's sexual liberation also help men?Alright! I like your strategy. If the guys (and girl) who pushed through my LMR had done what you did with me instead, we'd probably have ended up talking, and there wouldn't have been any shitty PiV sex (or whatever we ended up doing). They'd have ended up leaving or getting off some other way, with an enthusiastic girl who was mentally down for most things except PiV at that time. Also, that girl who grew her fingernails out. I eventually said something but -- ouch -- my LMR was there for a go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/16 10:29 AM |
| 7 | Stud vs Slut DichotomyI was surprised by "India" -- same way you'd be surprised if you told your friend his beer smelled sort of floral, like maybe there was a lot of hops, and he said, "yeah, it's got elderflower in it." I was like, "yo, your experience with women sounds a little foriegn to me." And the OP was like, "yeah, I fucking live in India and shit." And I was like, "oh, snap." If you call it getting "rekt" when someone's surprised and curious about someone else's respone to their observation, then I get rekt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/16 10:01 AM |
| 3 | Does women's sexual liberation also help men?This conversation always gets me a little nervous. In retrospect, I have absolutely put up LMR. I can remember a few times when a partner convinced me to have sex after I expressed hesitations. It was shit! That was why I was on the fence: I suspected that I wasn't in the headspace for it. And I suck at sex when I'm not in the right headspace. But, if I like you enough, or if I'm horny enough, you can absolutely push through LMR and get me to have sex when I'm not in the right headspace -- I'll … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/16 12:26 AM |
| 5 | Does women's sexual liberation also help men?The ugliest of the ugly (or mentally deficient) don't get anyone, period. Working in a hospital, you meet some extremely likable guys who are, nonetheless, inarguably ugly and "mentally deficient." Sometimes they bring their wives in too to help them out, keeping track of medical appointments and understanding doctors' recommendations. Because of my job, I also learn a fair bit about other people's sex lives. I'm not sure if this reassurance will leave you all happy or nauseated but, I can attes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/16 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Question for Bluepill, who here has a woman cheat/divorce/break up with them but you didn't want to break up, and now you still retain blue pill beliefs?What if we just enjoy your online company? Maybe we tell you when we disagree with you because it's a way of engaging you socially. I mean, obviously, your RP advice poses a threat to the Matriarchy. We are developing technology to ensure your compliance. But, until your reprogramming is complete, some of us might just enjoy hanging out on this subreddit, shooting the shit with you because you say interesting things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/16 11:23 PM |
| 6 | Stud vs Slut DichotomyPlease don't get me wrong -- India's a huge, diverse country, and I've always wanted to visit -- but, if your goal is really to have cost-effective, consensual sexual encounters, have you considered moving? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/16 08:28 PM |
| 15 | Stud vs Slut DichotomyI second Lurfly on this one. How old are you and where are you located? I've never had a man with whom I'm in a relationship pay for clothes, accessories, hair dressing appointments, etc. Even expensive Christmas gifts and birthday presents leave me uncomfortable because then I feel a need to reciprocate with the quality (and price) of my own gifts to them. This isn't even a question of values. I'm not a particular good person. I just don't like my partners paying for my shit. I've messed around… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/16 11:06 AM |
| 2 | One argument in support of Nice Guy shaming is that male nerds are "overprivileged". This argument (if nerd means no social skills) usually has no statistical evidence.Louis C.K. has got to be my favorite misanthrope, although Marc Maron is growing on me now that we're in between seasons. Because it's late and I'm tired, I'm just going to go ahead and interpret your use of "you" in the last paragraph as second person plural, not second person singular. I mean, whatever -- it still implies that some people passionately hate me singular. Alright. Fair enough. I'm not going to grapple with that thought right now. You mentioned that you seek to achieve "status" as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/16 02:58 AM |
| 1 | One argument in support of Nice Guy shaming is that male nerds are "overprivileged". This argument (if nerd means no social skills) usually has no statistical evidence.This is what I hoped real life would be like :-/ Maybe some day I'll find work at your company :-) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/16 01:23 AM |
| 5 | One argument in support of Nice Guy shaming is that male nerds are "overprivileged". This argument (if nerd means no social skills) usually has no statistical evidence.relationship before task This. Exactly. But just because relationship trumps task in most job markets doesn't mean that those of us who struggle more relationally are useless, nor does it mean our pain isn't valid. I fancy myself as decent interpersonally but there are some situations that I struggle with especially. Like, right now, I'm in the thick of it, navigating my way around two type-A supervisors who've instituted a remediation plan while, at the same time, working independently in a ver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/16 01:18 AM |
| 3 | One argument in support of Nice Guy shaming is that male nerds are "overprivileged". This argument (if nerd means no social skills) usually has no statistical evidence.That was an awesome read. Thank you for the link! As a feminist, I agree with 97% of it ;) But, seriously, I loved reading about Scott Aaronsen and Laurie Penny. They were both presented as such sympathetic characters. Better yet, Scott Alexander links directly to Scott Aaronson's original exchange in the comments section of his blog with a woman named Amy. The post of his that prompted the controversy (as described by Scott Alexander in your original link) marks a shift in the conversation. Aft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/16 12:44 AM |
| 3 | If your SO allowed you to bang other people on the side, would you?Strongly seconded. I used to hang out a lot with polyamorous people, back before I left NorCal. Even there, where it's painfully easy for a female to find NSA outside of an open LTR, I'd be hard pressed to find the kind of NSA that I enjoy. I get the sense it'd be even trickier for a guy, unless he went both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/16 02:05 AM |
| 5 | If your SO allowed you to bang other people on the side, would you?Is the existence of willing, sexually compatible "side bitches" a given in this hypothetical or is it BYO side bitch? My answer would vary accordingly. Cultivating safe, fulfilling NSA relationships takes too much work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/16 12:00 AM |
| 7 | [Discussion] Direct TRP Analog from Women's POVawalt even men I could 100% get behind that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/16 11:07 PM |
| 6 | To BP: How can "feminists" claim to be independent when they mostly major in jobs that require govt support based upon productive male taxes?Tru dat. Was fun for me though :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/16 10:01 PM |
| 4 | To BP: How can "feminists" claim to be independent when they mostly major in jobs that require govt support based upon productive male taxes?Aww. Paralegal? Sous chef? Correction's officer? Children's magician? "Kept" boy? Landscape architect? I'm running out of professions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/16 09:59 PM |
| 2 | For personal growth and not political success, which pill offers more information?Strongly seconded! It is an interesting question but, reading between the lines, I think it could be better framed as a CMV: "the value of the information provided by TRP outweighs the alleged adverse impact of any hypothetical misinformation." In other words, the OP argues that the complex worldview put forward by TRP is more useful than its blanket negation. I might disagree with TRP on many things but I'd have a hard time arguing against that CMV. When it comes to information, I'm actually a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/16 09:03 PM |
| 6 | To BP: How can "feminists" claim to be independent when they mostly major in jobs that require govt support based upon productive male taxes?It would be interesting to know what you've produced so far. I'm actually really curious about this too. On the one hand, I find it highly unlikely that u/sexydude01 works in education, mental health, management, advertising, or HR, just based on his rhetoric. But the people whom I know in STEM fields don't tend to argue the relative worth of their professions. First off, people in those professions feel a little like I do as a professional, like their societal contributions are too ill-defined … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/16 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Women, do you actually like when your man flirts with another woman?Aw, thanks! Never even knew I had "jib." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/16 01:39 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: would you have sex with a hot guy that you disliked?Hell yes. Give me a corrupt well-muscled banker, a tub of lube, and my 8-inch strap-on. Hate sex is all well and good but I'd prefer shame-fucking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/16 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Women, do you actually like when your man flirts with another woman?The term you're looking for is "horny-meter" But it might not be! I get the sense that, for TRP guys, the jury is still out as to whether, when you flirt with other women, your girlfriend is then more likely to acquiesce sexually out of arousal, insecurity, or both. Does TRP even make a distinction as to the motivation or is the focus on outcome (sex)? Alternately, is there an assumption that sexual arousal and emotional vulnerability are one and the same, meaning that a woman who's more insecur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/16 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Why do TRPillers blame women for nearly everything?If you ever feel proud for being a man/woman/black/aryan/etc you are an idiot, why be proud of something innate? I'm not much into sports but I do envy the instant comradery that sports fans enjoy with one another. Even if they're not going for the same team, they can still share pride in accomplishments of various players and amusement at the failures of others. It's bizarre to an outsider because their noisy, colorful behavior has no influence on their team's performance. At its most benign, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/16 01:46 AM |
| 4 | Women, do you actually like when your man flirts with another woman?Whether we like it when men do this is unrelated to its effectiveness as a strategy for increasing sexual compliance. (As an aside, does anyone else cringe at the term "sexual compliance"? I couldn't think of a better way to describe the desired outcome.) With that said, there can be something fun about dating guys who aren't too hyper-focused on protecting me from jealousy. Even in an ostensibly monogamous relationship, it's nice to be able to discuss other women's bodies. I suspect I'm in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/16 10:09 PM |
| 4 | If women who are mistreated by male partners are at fault for choosing the hot douche instead of the unattractive nice guy, what about men who are mistreated by female partners? Is it their fault for choosing the hot bitch instead of the unattractive nice girl?Hey, wanna Snickers? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Do women dress revealingly in order to attract sexual attention from males?I always assumed they dressed like that to garner sexual attention from me. Ah well. This repeat realization that it's not all about me is an unending source of relief and disappointment. At least other girls are still considerate enough to wear sexy costumes in honor of my birthday in late October. I would like to remind the kids though: please stop coming around with those late-October-birthday goody bags of candy. First off, you suck at sharing. And anyway, your mom dressed as a sexy doctor i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 10:58 PM |
| 2 | A short theory about rapeI didn't realise you were a survivor. When you say your psychiatrist congratulated you, I'm hoping that you mean they gave you props for talking about it and not that they congratulated you like bros would in a locker room. I'm both curious about your experience and also quite aware that this probably isn't the forum to be asking about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 02:27 AM |
| 1 | A short theory about rapeRight. In addition to the concerns you've raised, I'd add that it sucks to talk about a trauma, only to have other people dismiss as funny or "no big deal." I suspect a lot of men who have been sexually assaulted by women opt not to talk about it because they're anticipating an invalidating response from others. I mean, I'm not even sure that I'd risk talking about it if I were in their situation. It seems like an especially lonely thing to cope with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Hate sex, hate relationships, hate work. What could I possibly do with my life?Right. This is what I mean about approaching the situation with intentionality. I can't do drugs because, when I did them, I was all about relinquishing control for a few hours (and maybe, if I was lucky, blacking out.) it got pretty sad after a while. I'm glad to read posts by people who take these things seriously. Having rescinded my own drug privileges four years ago, I now enjoy living vicariously through equally adventurous (but perhaps somewhat more sensible) Redditors who continue to use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 12:30 AM |
| 4 | Hate sex, hate relationships, hate work. What could I possibly do with my life?You sound so similar to my best friend, it's uncanny. She enjoys porn but dislikes physical contact and is, for the most part, asexual. Although she's never held a job, she loves writing, and I think she's a good enough writer that she could make money doing it, were she to overcome the barriers posed by her depression. I don't know if it helps or hurts to be compared to someone else. I love my friend dearly but she's really suffering. One thing she's been unable to do is reach out to others for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Hate sex, hate relationships, hate work. What could I possibly do with my life?I wouldn't typically upvote someone for recommending shrooms as therapy but your post is such an awesome how-to, I can't not upvote. I've read that the therapeutic value of psychlobin (magic mushrooms) is most likely highly contextual. So, when I used to do them recreationally with my friends in undergrad, it did shit all for my psychological wellbeing. And I had a friend for whom they triggered several months of severe anxiety. But my friend and I aren't by nature very thoughtful, spiritual peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 12:05 AM |
| 3 | A short theory about rapeFemale genitals mightn't be as conspicuous as male genitals but we tend to have a pretty good idea of where they are and how to use them. If you're definig rape solely as nonconsensual oral/anal/vaginal penetration then, yeah, I suspect having a dick plays a role. But, when I worked with juvenile sex offenders, I got a sense that men constituted the majority in most forms of sexual assault including digital penetration and receptive oral copulation. I mean, to be fair, this was a very biased sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 11:37 PM |
| 0 | Modern Feminism: still necessary?Touché. You're right; feminists can be cognitively inflexible sometimes. I mean, even among those of us who define feminism as a method of thought rather than a set of conclusions, there's still some resistance to including things that we disagree with under the feminist umbrella. I can't speak for all feminists but I personally have a lot invested in the idea that there is nothing inherently wrong with female promiscuity (as long as females keep themselves healthy, safe, fulfilled, and true to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Modern Feminism: still necessary?Feminism isn't dying, it's just evolving to meet our needs. People have suggested the term "gender egalitarianism" instead. I like that term because it gives a nod to the ways that men also experience sexism. Nonetheless, I stubbornly use the word feminism when I'm talking about myself, in part, because there's a rich history behind that word and, in part, because I enjoy stirring shit on PPD. At it's best, modern feminism isn't about which gender has it worse or which gender is superior. It ref… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 10:51 PM |
| 7 | Do you believe that women who anti-feminists/men who are feminists are doing it for a mating strategy?Can confirm. Am feminist. Hate your wife. The feminist shadow government explicitly asked her to obtain work in the STEM sciences and she willfully ignored our mandate. And for what? Babies? Fucking breeder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 01:49 AM |
| 6 | Do you believe that women who anti-feminists/men who are feminists are doing it for a mating strategy?So that's what creeped me out about those 'Save the Children' folks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 01:42 AM |
| 7 | Q4ALL: High functioning autistics and undiagnosed people who are self-aware of their lack of social skills, how do you stay happy in this lifetime?Female here, likewise diagnosed with ADHD and medicated as a child. I'm doing okay romantically right now but sucking ass professionally, and the more I think of it as a trait-based problem, the more I suck ass. I do agree with the RP crowd that being socially awkward as a guy is a lot different from beig socially awkward as a girl -- I won't pretend to know how frustrating it can be for a single guy in the dating market. I just hope maybe my work-related problems might shed light on your dating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/16 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Feminine/Feminist Aspects of theRedPillEdit: be forewarned, the following post reads like a freshman year sociology paper. I won't apologize for the douche-factor. Just consider this a trigger warning. Original comment: I could make an argument for TRP being feminist but not for the reasons you listed. If TRP is feminist, it's because it embraces feminist concepts: Gender egalitarianism: in its affiliation with the wider manosphere, the RP seeks to promote fair treatment of men in divorce court proceedings, child custody decisions, c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/16 12:06 AM |
| 3 | Let's talk about degrading sex actsthe booze and drugs is an excuse, a cover for her conduct I'm sure this is true in many cases, especially among people who frown on female promiscuity. I didn't come of age in that environment though, so I haven't really internalized the ideal of being chaste. Among my peers in undergrad, there was a lot of talk about the "ethical slut" -- somebody who fucks around while staying safe and honest. The idea was that sex should be just as healthy and enjoyable as a friendly tennis match. Unfortunate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 10:52 PM |
| 8 | Who are all these moron women telling men all of the things theyve done sexually with other men?I strongly second your two reasons but would also like to propose a third. Some sex stories are so fucked up that you can't tell them and so funny that you can't not tell them. It's just like homemade baked goods or vacation photos: we share things because we like them, regardless of whether the sharing's appreciated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 01:21 AM |
| 5 | Let's talk about degrading sex actsI get why this would be upsetting to a guy. I have some kinks that most people won't act out. If I were dating someone who had, in the past, engaged in the stuff that I find sexy, and if they refused to do it with me, I'd take it personally. At the same time, I think a lot of what we choose to do sexually is determined by the situation, not the individual. I mean, yeah, you have to be attractive enough to get sex in the first place but, once you pass that hurdle, much of what's on the table has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 12:54 AM |
| 2 | are women repulsed by the idea that their man has been with prostitutes?My ex and I had a similar arrangement; he could see sex workers and I could mess around with girls, as long as I kept it NSA. It was great. Frankly, I wish my current boyfriend was less inflexibly sexually monogamous. Kudos for coming up with an arrangement that works for he two of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/16 07:12 PM |
| 5 | Q4BuePill: can you make an argument on why a high N-count woman would *not* make a bad LTR?Meh. I do regret not outing myself straight-up in my original OP. But I do not think being a member of a group precludes you from speaking with insight about that group. Never said that, one of my best female friends is quite possibly now on 100+ Holy shit. Maybe I'm not even in the group after all. Do you know if there're rules as to what counts as "high-n"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/16 05:36 AM |
| 3 | Q4BuePill: can you make an argument on why a high N-count woman would *not* make a bad LTR?Are you arguing that negative experiences can't bias a person? If you know and personally dislike some high-n females, I don't think you can argue that you're without bias. Nor do I think your opinion should be dismissed, just because you have a horse in the race. I am a high-n female, you know some high-n females -- the same factors that bias us also enable us to contribute to this discussion with more insight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/16 05:21 AM |
| 2 | Q4BuePill: can you make an argument on why a high N-count woman would *not* make a bad LTR?I'd generally prefer to get an opinion from somebody who belongs to the population in question, rather than somebody who knows a few case examples who are "bitter as hell." Like, let's say this was a discussion about men. Would you mant me listening to the man in the discussion or the person who's dealt with a few unpleasant men and distrusts them as a result? Bias doesn't just stem from group affiliation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/16 05:06 AM |
| 3 | Q4BuePill: can you make an argument on why a high N-count woman would *not* make a bad LTR?Ah, well, yeah, I am a little biased. I'm including myself and several close female family members among the high-n females whom I've known. The "I imagine" could have been subconsciously intended as a disclaimer, lest somebody assume that I'm speaking with perfect objectivity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/16 04:32 AM |
| 4 | Q4BuePill: can you make an argument on why a high N-count woman would *not* make a bad LTR?Okay, yeah. I imagine there is a slightly higher chance of a still extremely low probability event happening. But do you really want to base all your romantic decisions around a fear of being publicly cuckholded? It seems a little like basing all your career decisions out of a fear of having a panic attack while public speaking. I mean, fair enough, maybe you don't want the raunchiest girlfriend or the highest profile job - I can respect that. But you want to make choices based on values and des… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/16 04:24 AM |
| 3 | Q4BuePill: can you make an argument on why a high N-count woman would *not* make a bad LTR?You're right. All I have are examples of high-n females from my own personal life. Such a small sample size neither proves nor disproves a correlation. Maybe you could point be to the large random sample data set that you drew your conclusions from so I could run some additional statistical analyses? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/16 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Q4BuePill: can you make an argument on why a high N-count woman would *not* make a bad LTR?I imagine high-n females tend to be, on average, more adventurous, less judgmental, and nicer to strangers. Maybe you want a girl who hates everyone at your birthday party and makes reluctant, stilted conversation with your weird highschool friends. Or maybe you want a girl who enjoys novel social situation, who can get your grandma laughing, and isn't afraid to dance. Also, the tongue stuff, and no gag reflex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/16 03:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againCalm down Eh? Either you misunderstand me or you just dislike entertaining other people with your words. I'm not fussed or offended. Your comment made me smile. It boggles my mind that your kind (white progressives) cannot use heuristics or even understand what heuristic is and differentiate it between a rule of nature and random chance. Are we using the same definition of heuristics? If so, I'd argue white liberals use them constantly, even at times we'd prefer not to use them. Stereotyping, fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/16 09:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againNah, man. "Discrimination" is old school. Now it's all, "Your speech is problematic." I love that word -- "problematic" -- it sounds so prickly and vague and detached. It's perfect for an earnest-looking Berkeley undergrad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/16 10:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againRight. Just yelling "racist" ends the conversation. It's not very constructive. You do probably want to present the truth so that it's palatable though. Returning to my (albeit weird) example, I think you're trying to convince me to accept your dog-shit-smeared Rolex. And I'd argue you don't have to convince me. If we're still discussing this, it's because I'm okay with a little dog shit (and you're okay with some SJW shit too.) Your Rolex is durable, handsome, and well-calibrated -- nobody's qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/16 10:07 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againSorry, I know you made a solid argument in favor of viewing racial stereotypes as potentially adaptive heuristics. Unfortunately, my brain just got stuck on this part: You either march in a black uniform with your right hand high up, or you're bend over as a rape toy to some random Muslim. I can't tell if you're describing a white power music video or a very ill-advised porno. How literal are you being when you present the forced choice option of becoming a Nazi or getting raped? I mean, what ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/16 03:05 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againRight! Exactly. It's still true, it's just not serving the same function once you add the racial slur. Like, imagine you get dog shit all over a Rolex. The watch still works and it's still plenty valuable but, when you try to gift it to someone, it doesn't garner the same reaction. Nobody's denying that it's still a functioning Rolex, but not everyone will get past the fact that it has dog shit on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/16 02:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againYeah, you're fine. See my original post for update/clarification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/16 02:04 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againOh and by the way, you can think some group is more stupid, more aggressive, less capable, and overall inferior to your own without denying the humanity of that same group. If you can believe all those things about a group and still appreciate their worth, more power to you. I can't. That's why I didn't just stop with the Bell Curve. I read counterarguments, debated the ideas with friends, and remained observant of individual differences so that I'd become a better functioning person. I'm not sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/16 11:56 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againI think there's two important parts to communication: the factual content and the function. I like your last example about Sotomayor. Abso-fucking-lutely, he jumps high, but when you replace his name with a racial slur, the function of the communication changes, even though the truth value remains the same. Communication serves a purpose beyond the simple transmission of facts. So, if you said that shit about Sotomayor, I wouldn't bet against you. It wouldn't even occur to me that there was a be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/16 11:33 PM |
| -2 | CMV: Being "Anti-PC" is nothing more than a wish to have overt racism and sexism socially acceptable againAs a cisgendered individual, your speech on this topic is problematic because it drowns out the voices of actual trans folk. I also take offense at your previous comment, conflating jokes about rape with jokes about being transgender, as if the transgender identity is some trauma to overcome. :-P And PC culture is very racist/sexist, based on your race/gender you are called privileged and your opinion dismissed. But seriously, you make an interesting point. I agree with my fellow SJWs that privi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/16 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Can blue pillers and Red pillers be friends in real life?I identify as a feminist (sex-positive, pro-choice, liberal-arts-educated, self-consciously egalitarian, and preoccupied by concepts like "intersectionality"). I posted a while back about a hot-but-ill-advised relationship with a terper. I'd like to imagine we could've stayed platonic friends, if not for the weird sexual dynamic. I fell for him pretty hard though. Overall, I enjoy having friends with whom I disagree politically. But, the more I think back, the more I suspect that political sparr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/16 11:48 PM |
| 5 | is feminism a social experiment as it was communism?difference are mainly biological and they can't be subverted unless we modify human nature I wouldn't be surprised if we become more accepting of the idea that there may be innate psychological differencea between genders. I mean, I think that within-group variance is often greater than between-group variance and that culture will inevitably influence gender expression; however, I've always been suspicious of feminists who refuse to even entertain the possibility of innate differences. With that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/16 08:01 PM |
| 3 | Question for everyone: What's important to you, when you rate other people as potential sexual partners?Aww, thank you. Careful though; girls make me nervous :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/16 02:12 PM |
| 5 | Question for everyone: What's important to you, when you rate other people as potential sexual partners?Haha. You mean you wouldn't disappear into a windowless bedroom with a kinky, thick-legged, socially awkward version of Christina Ricci? Bro, you had your thyroid levels checked? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/16 02:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: You cannot just arbitrarily set your own SMV. If a male 5 can't get a female 2, he is not a 5.Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/16 01:58 PM |
| 1 | If TRP wasn't radical, it would be uselessAbsolute just means not acknowledgeing alternatives or counterexamples. So AWALT is a classic example. Inflexible advice like "be nice" and "be yourself" also smack of absolutism. So in a way I guess TRP is reacting to what they percieve as inflexible and unhelpful absolute directives with their own absolute directives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/16 12:23 PM |
| 7 | Question for everyone: What's important to you, when you rate other people as potential sexual partners?For me, it depends what we're gonna do together sexually. For men, I like a deep voice, broad shoulders, muscular arms, and dark eyebrows. I'm especially attracted to guys who seem on the verge of getting arrested. For example, I was both aroused and disapproving when I found out that my ex was a grey-hat computer hacker. A corrupt cop is my ultimate fantasy but I'd settle for a drug-addicted doctor. I also especially like guys who get turned on by playing the submissive role but who haven't qui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/16 10:27 PM |
| 1 | If TRP wasn't radical, it would be uselessI read your response on the "Politics and RP" post, shortly Before reading your response to me. I don't trust men more because they are the same gender as me. I trust them more because they aren't women. Point taken. You cite stats on divorce but I don't think the stats are what pulled into this argument - I think they're important in that they validate what you already know to be the truth. It's weird to notice the commonalities between enemy camps. There's this old second-generation feminist s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/16 03:33 PM |
| 1 | If TRP wasn't radical, it would be uselessI see AWALT as more similar to people coming out of a bad situation with a "trust no one" attitude (could we call it APALT for "All People"?) I apologize in advance for shifting the conversation away from gender relations. I promise to bring it back after I'm done unpacking APALT. APALT can be adaptive in a setting like prison even if it isn't acurate. There are a few scattered folks who won't rat you out or harm you but the costs of trusting the wrong person outweigh the benefits of trusting th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/16 02:17 PM |
| 4 | CMV: You cannot just arbitrarily set your own SMV. If a male 5 can't get a female 2, he is not a 5.Essentially a woman who is a 6 will get fucked by 8s but date other 6s. I think this speaks to the importance of distinguishing Relationship Market Value (RMV) from SMV. If you define these things based on market demand, a woman's SMV will typically be higher than her RMV. Conversely, in a lot of very traditional cultures, men have higher RMVs because they can provide things for a woman that she can't provide for herself. This also seems to be true in cultures where there's a gender disparity su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/16 01:43 PM |
| 3 | If TRP wasn't radical, it would be uselessI think you might be confusing realism with absolutism. The OP isn't criticizing the RP as inacutate in its generalizations. They're not even arguing that generalizations are bad; they're arguing that the absolutism has utility. So maybe reality is most often shitty and un-Disney-like. And maybe it's better to behave as if this is always the case. You're still thinking in absolutes - missing the counter-examples to AWALT, for example. But maybe taking the TRP literally has utility. Whatever you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 11:31 PM |
| 5 | If TRP wasn't radical, it would be uselessI love your argument but I feel compelled to disagree. Absolutes are helpful in dire situations. There are no conditional clauses to emergency directives. Police don't say "drop your weapon, unless you feel more comfortable holding it." They say "drop your motherfucking weapon." Incels are often desperate by the time they find TRP; absolutism might reassure them. I also think that tentative language seems a little gendered. Like, as a female, I catch myself saying "sometimes" and "perhaps" and "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 11:04 PM |
| 2 | Would you be okay with a guy doing this to you?Reading the responses on this thread has me worried for male victims of sexual assault. I've worked with guys who were assaulted while unconscious. There's a slippery slope, from sharpie penis drawing on the face to tea-bagging to oral cop to anal penetration. If your response is that "it's his fault for passing out" then it's gonna suck for you if you find yourself in a situation where somebody takes it too far. We need to get our definitions straight so that we can protect our passed out frien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 11:13 AM |
| 3 | BP: can you please provide some images of what you consider "too much muscle" to be attractive?I dunno if GLO is sober enough to debate a mod. I mean, I've sort of enjoyed his energy these past two hours. But his troll prowess is so high, he's gotta be drugging. Either he cooks meth or he accidentally poured a little coffee into his bourbon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/16 10:22 PM |
| 1 | What if letting go of all control makes you more nervous?Or they discount doing anything because they're freaking out about stability. Ah, it's good to meet a fellow US government employee! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/16 10:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is caused by a crash collision between traditional values and liberal, modern society.Yeah, I can get behind this too. Kudos to Gavinok for a post that's resonating with people from both sides of the debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/16 10:05 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is caused by a crash collision between traditional values and liberal, modern society.Dude. I know you're trolling here so consistency isn't a priority but you literally just said the Red Pill "does not give a fuck about traditional values." If you need to go all the way back to the Old Testament to find a diss for somebody, you give a fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/16 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: How much TRP have you actually read?Right. I guess I should clarify: we're all prone to making negative generalizations about the "other," myself included. Women complain men and men complain about women. For me, there's a difference between saying something makes me squeamish, versus saying something is immoral or unjustified. Slugs make me squeamish but they're neither moral or immoral - they're just part of reality. Anger directed toward women is likewise part of reality. Men and women who make anger part of their identity, cli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 09:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP hates "Safe Spaces" but is in itself a safe space.Right. I guess I think of gaslighting as telling someone their sensory interpretation of reality is flawed and then following that up with some trait-based attribution of why their reality can't be trusted moving forward. So it's both saying "that's not true" and "you crazy" (although that second clause is oftentimes implied rather than spoken.) if someone just disagrees with my interpretation of reality, that's fine. Gaslighting is insidious because it's more than just disagreeing. Does the RP … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: How much TRP have you actually read?You aren't trying to lure me back to a Helly-Kitty-themed drug den in Hong Kong are you? If so, I'm in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Q4BP: How much TRP have you actually read?I visit TRP pretty infrequently, most often because I want to educate myself about the context behind a PPD post or look up some jargon ("plate," "Chad," "SMV," etc.) I've read the sidebar, the "about" sticky, some posts that garnered hate from the BP crowd, and some posts that just struck me as interesting. I revisited the sub today and I was pleased with what I saw - there were a lot fewer "anger phase" posts than last time I visited. Honestly, part of the reason that I tend to stay away is be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/16 11:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP hates "Safe Spaces" but is in itself a safe space.Yeah, that's interesting. I think I like bringing emotions up on the PPD sub because it often seems like the elephant in the room when RP guys discuss feminists or vise versa. You mentioned a distinction between gas-lighting and emotional invalidation. I agree. However, I think I have an easier time coming up with scenarios in which these phenomena intersect. For example, a guy might say, "it makes me angry that a girl was really friendly to me, then ghosted when I asked her out." And a girl mig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/16 11:04 PM |
| 6 | Incels, FAs, MGTOWs and Red Pillers that hate women: why?Sure you don't wanna change your flare color? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/16 12:23 AM |
| 3 | Is the Alt Right the Future of TRP?Not addressing this question directly, just expressing interest in the topic. Can anyone point me to a sub that functions like the PPD but for Alt Right folks versus liberals? Alternatively, any reading material would be much appreciated. I'm trying to understand the distinction between the Alt Right, neo-fascism, and post-fascism. Are these terms interchangeable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/16 10:01 PM |
| 3 | On the claim that misandry doesn't exist because only women face legal institutionalized sexism...At risk of irritating other people who also identify as feminist, I really think the adverse gender-specific consequences of sexism are apples to oranges. I don't mean to be dismissive. I just don't know how you quantify the pain of losing your only child in a custody battle versus the pain of being raped by a superior officer in the armed forces. It's all the more complicated because these two scenarios are not exclusive to either gender. They may be gender specific in that, on average, women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/16 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUADude, I'm sorry. I concede. My example of bad statistics was poorly chosen. Meanwhile, your distrust of me precludes any constructive discussion moving forward. I mean, why would I call you a "rape apologist" for dissecting a statistical inference that I intended to be incorrect? You said you took no pleasure in proving people wrong. So I thought perhaps you just needed an easy target. I presented a silly CMV, but that upset you because you perceived it as left-field. Apparently, you also worrie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/16 06:23 PM |
| 9 | On the claim that misandry doesn't exist because only women face legal institutionalized sexism...First off, I'd be interested to debate feminists who claim that institutionalized sexism does not affect men. My suspicion would be that they were engaging in mental acrobatics out of fear that, were they to concede the argument, they might end up agreeing with MRAs on some issues. In fact, a lot of institutionalized sexism has an adverse impact on both men and woman: for example, our reluctance to grant paid paternity leave in the US. My boyfriend earns less than me, keeps up with housework bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/16 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAAw, thank you : ) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAYou might be right. Honestly, I've never heard it as a verb. I'm not sure how to "feminist." Like, "feministing" just sounds suspiciously like "fisting." In which case, yeah, I guess I've earned the title. But, keep in mind, I have very small hands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 05:09 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAWell, I tried to make you smile with a shoddy statistical inference. You didn't even challenge it. It's as if there's no emotional connection whatsoever. I mean, I'm not blaming you, I just don't think this thread is working out between us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAOkay, fair enough. But I still gotta try: "CMV: 1 in 6 American women will experience rape or attempted rape in their lifetimes. That means 1 in 6 American men are rapists." I mean, the conclusion I draw is obviously correct, isn't it? No flawed logic there at all... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAOkay, yeah, that was sort of my original joke: that strictly speaking as a feminist proving someone wrong makes me happy. But, seriously, is there nothing that I could do for you as a feminist to fill you with gleeful indignation? Hanging out on a debate sub and not taking pleasure in it is a little odd. I'll help out any way I can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAAnd that jab at my character didn't give you even the slightest twinge of pleasure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 03:36 PM |
| 6 | Why do women initiate most divorces? Booze and sluts.Men don't suck more than women, they just tend to suck differently than women. Externalizing problems (substance abuse, aggression, sexual compulsions) are more common among men and internalizing problems (depression, anxiety, avoidant behavior) are more common among women. Maybe these studies show that fewer men are able to articulate the reason for divorce because it's harder to pin down in the case of an internalizing disorder. Like, it's much easier to identify the problems in the relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 12:32 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAI wouldn't call it circular logic so much as a jump in chronology so the the precipitant follows from the outcome. And, irregardless of whether my reason for being happy is circular, the fact that I'm happy at all, for whatever convoluted reason, still technically disproves the statement, "feminists are never happy." But, yeah, the gist of what you're saying is correct: my previous post was intended to be cute, not serious. I don't actually take much joy in proving you wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAParty of Social Democracy in Moldova? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUABDSM is a problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 01:12 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAFeminists are never happy. Speaking strictly as a feminist: Having proven you wrong with this counterexample makes me happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Feminism vs. PUAAh, but think of the hate sex... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/16 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible for a physically attractive girl to be unattractive to most guys? Is it possible for her to struggle with relationships and friendships if she's pretty? Can a cute girl be low value? If so, how?a beautiful autistic girl with borderline? How fucked up is it that I just swooned a little? Then there's the violence Okay, no. Fuck. I'm sorry you were ever exposed to this person. I had an old supervisor at a psychology practicum site who thought that borderline women were just better in the bedroom - like, he just said it straight-up, no apologies. As a mental health provider, this is a creepy thing to fess up to, but I also tend to imagine there's a correlation between sexual ability and em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/16 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: Is paying for sex pathetic?And you would still buy hamburgers, but you'd better understand how the meat was raised and cooked. Absolutely! I mean, I've got a strong stomach when it comes to shitty fast food. And I'm not very empathic toward cows. So, yeah, I do eat the occasional Big Mac. However, I think being an educated consumer of sex work is important, both for health reasons and also for ethical reasons. I have this fantasy about quitting work to write an ethical guide to sex tourism - not an absolutist manual about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/16 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Girl Pretty and Guy Pretty? Can a girl be beautiful to other girls/women and hideous to guys/men?As a bisexual female, I think there's absolutely a difference. There are women whose looks satisfy me aesthetically, women whose looks intrigue me, women whose looks make me envious, and women whose looks make me want to follow behind them with a big, goofy grin and my eyes glued to their asses (I resist this urge). Although there's some overlap, I've absolutely met women who are attractive in some ways and not others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/16 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: Is paying for sex pathetic?This is odd. I'm far more blue than red but, based on the OP's position statements, I'll have to answe as if I were RP. If men as a whole stopped paying for sex and just earned it by being attractive, wouldn't that be better than having to pay? If people stopped paying for food and just grew food in their gardens, wouldn't that be better than having to pay? Not everyone is blessed with a large, nutrient-rich patch of soil. And those who do have access to home-grown, organic produce might still s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/16 09:45 PM |
| 2 | Q4believers in reddit cryptochristian atheist "morality", bp and rpYou mean by agreeing with both sides of something? I think that's pointless and nonsensical. But it's also a very astute, constructive way to approach a debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/16 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Have you ever felt the need to exaggerate your N-count or sexual experience? If so, why did you feel this way?A key way to judge if a man has this ability, is past experience. Ah, but now you're assuming we're logical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/16 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4believers in reddit cryptochristian atheist "morality", bp and rpI keep revisiting this thread because I'm impatient to see whether anyone will self-identify as a "cryptochristian atheist." Maybe we could broaden the question to "morally absolutist non-theists." We could even open it up to "anti-nihilist nonjudeochristians." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/16 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Have you ever felt the need to exaggerate your N-count or sexual experience? If so, why did you feel this way?Women want a challenge, certainly. A Don Juan to tame is good, but so is a hero to corrupt. Also, I think a lot of women get jealous or turned off, imagining their sex partner's previous sex partners - same as guys. If your girlfriends preferences were the blunt unfiltered truth for all women, I feel like one of my female friends would have clued me in by now that my preference for guys with low to medium n-counts is an anomaly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/16 12:21 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: Have you ever felt the need to exaggerate your N-count or sexual experience? If so, why did you feel this way?Odd. I've never heard of this amongst my female friends. I mean, I'm not arguing that women shoot for low-n guys but that preference for high-n guys might have been specific to your girlfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/16 11:52 PM |
| 6 | How important is sex, really? And why?Sex is also a means of connecting with others. It's closely tied to our emotional response system. I'm imagining the experience of physical intimacy as a series of neural connections. Rape would be like sticking a firehose down your drain or hooking an iPhone up to a car battery. Emotional connections could get damaged just like water pipes or circuitry. Overall, sex is a fragile system that works a little differently for everyone. When you add the right input to the right system, everything flo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/16 11:41 PM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP hates "Safe Spaces" but is in itself a safe space.Ideas can cause feelings. The ideas that TRP censors are the ideas that hurt or anger them. The ideas that they express have an emotional component which outsiders tend to invalidate (and also usually censor). For example, rarely do we express sympathy for a man's difficulties obtaining sexual satisfaction, especially if he's single and is looking to fuck around. The TRP respects that not getting laid can be upsetting. Their advice might still be "get your shit together"; however, they're a safe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/16 11:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP hates "Safe Spaces" but is in itself a safe space.I'm wondering if this has more to do with how guys demonstrate that they give a shit about one another. Like, if you're all calling people "pussy" because you've been there too, and because you needed a kick in the ass to improve your lives, then that's still a caring environment. You see this oftentimes with older males in 12-step meetings: they call bullshit on one another all the time but it's usually intended as constructive feedback. Also, by policing the ranks for weakness, you reenforce g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/16 11:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP hates "Safe Spaces" but is in itself a safe space.I get what you're saying about a shift such that people are increasingly held accountable for the emotions they trigger in others. And I do think "safe space" is intended to imply emotional safety. However, I think the TRP exists, in a large part, because men feel emotionally invalidated by popular discourse. There's a self-improvement component too, but I suspect emotions play a larger role than anyone is willing to admit. Any why shouldn't they? Emotions can be behavioral motivators, warning s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/16 10:38 PM |
| 3 | Mojo is realMojo is absolutely real; however, I suspect the ingredients that go into mojo vary person-to-person. I can only speak from my experience: the generically unattractive guys whom I've known who get laid a lot tend to have traits that signal that they'd be fun sexual partners. They're, by an large, extroverted and interesting, self-aware, curious and empathic in their dealings with others, and open about their sexual desires. They give off this vibe that they'd be awesome BFFs (witty, sympathetic, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/16 10:44 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men have more power in the SMP than feminists.Youth, sort of. Slimness, no. I'm not sure how it's changed with the increased exposure to Western media but, when I was in Ghana in 2003, women outside of the major urban areas were taking dietary supplements as a means of bulking up so that they'd be more attractive. Meanwhile, just looking back on art and print media, we can trace the trend toward idealizing slimmer women in times of relative surplus. Youth has been viewed as pretty consistently attractive but our concept of what youth is shi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/16 10:23 AM |
| 2 | CMV Being harmed by another person's words is a weakness of characterI'm really tempted to use this space to make ad hominem attacks on the OP, not because /u/winndixie deserves it but because it seems like an obvious (if somewhat childish) means of trying to manufacture a counterexample. Anyway, I don't think being harmed by someone else's words necessarily indicates a weakness of character. The would be like saying that failing to understand a book is a learning disability. People with learning disabilities are somewhat less likely to understand books in genera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/16 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Is Capitalism to Blame for the Agony of Hookup Culture?I notice you're shifting the topic of conversation from feminists to women: Of course- take any attribute or aspect of the sexual marketplace, but only the positive aspects. That's what women want. I appreciate that these two groups intersect but the majority of US women don't self-identify as "feminist." Also, when you discuss sexual marketplace strategy, I see distinctions. For example, I recently moved from a part of the country with a high ratio of self-identified feminists to an area with v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Question for RP: Alpha Women?Ah, good. I was concerned that RP values had warped your self-perceptions for a second. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Question for All: Is calling someone a woman an insult?I'll admit, I'm drawn to PPD, but honestly, I couldn't tell you why. It seems like no guy in here would ever think a tomboy is a good thing. Maybe that's misreading the crowd, but it seems like the views are a little archaic. Women are for sex and babies, don't deviate from the plan. Maybe gender roles in general are just interesting to us because we tend to defy them? Right! I like your idea that we become more interested in gender roles by virtue of defying them. I also think people tend to en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Question for RP: Alpha Women?left a trail of bodies? Maybe females are better at clean-up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 09:17 PM |
| 4 | Question for RP: Alpha Women?I've been following your comments for awhile and I gotta ask: what makes you not alpha? I mean, I don't think I have a strong enough grasp on these concepts to debate you on it. I'm just genuinely curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Is Capitalism to Blame for the Agony of Hookup Culture?That's a point. I have heard people argue that selling sex should be made legal in the US whereas buying sex should remain criminalized, which I think is silly. And I guess a few of my feminist friends wouldn't argue that point simply because they've worked in the sex industry and have no interest in seeing their customers arrested. With regard to porn, it's been a long time since I've heard anyone make an argument to illegalize it, although I can appreciate your point about people seeking to se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Is Capitalism to Blame for the Agony of Hookup Culture?Is this still true? Almost all of the feminists I know support sex work and pornography, although they might seek to regulate these industries to variying degrees in order to protect the rights of sex workers. Nonetheless, I'm assuming these views differ based on age and geographic region. I'm talking about 20-somethings in NorCal. Where are you drawing your sample? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 06:18 PM |
| 3 | Question for All: Is calling someone a woman an insult?I did grow up distrustful of other girls. And I always sort of fancied myself special in this regard. As an adult, I've had a couple of harsh reality checks. The first came from this incredibly hot, glamorous, flaky, self-obsessed model. My best friend and I used to sit around, listening to her talk about her relationship with her parents or whatever, just because she looked so good talking. One day she told me it was weird that we got on so well because all of her friends are guys. "No shit," I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Question for All: Is calling someone a woman an insult?I don't think you're describing femininity so much as the absence of masculinity. I'd be curious what you think of the work of Sandra Bem, the psychologist who created the Bem Sex Role Inventory. She suggested that masculine and feminine are distinct constructs, not opposite poles of the same spectrum. I suspect you'd be what Bem called "androgynous," assuming you have high analytic intelligence (the cognitive skills required to excel at STEM sciences) and high emotional intelligence (the abilit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/16 12:32 AM |
| 7 | Question for All: Is calling someone a woman an insult?I feel you completely! I'm not sure if this is common among females or if females who think like us are just drawn to the PPD subreddit. I could envision a few reasons why I'm flattered when people imply that I'm mentally more masculine. Certainly, feminism might have played a role. My parents, who are both politically liberal, were proud when I excelled in steriotypically masculine pursuits. Now my job involves a lot of emotional labor and, compared to female colleagues, I sometimes find myself… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/16 10:25 PM |
| 2 | How is possible to be an Incel?Agreed! I mean, I've always suspected this but then I thought maybe it was just me projecting my own issues onto others. It took me a long time to figure out that what I really wanted was cuddles and TV in bed. I mean, I get horny too, but I've never had a problem admitting it to myself when I'm horny. Loneliness is another matter - it's tough to acknowledge. I suspect this is true of guys too: it's better to think of yourself as horny, rather than lonely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/16 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Why is there a Purple Pill Subreddit?Here ya go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/16 05:00 PM |
| 5 | Why is there a Purple Pill Subreddit?Good question. Why are you and I debating here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/16 09:35 PM |
| 8 | Why is there a Purple Pill Subreddit?This subreddit exists so that redditors like yourself can post exciting, thought-provoking questions like this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/16 09:27 PM |
| 1 | The Guardian does a whole article on TRP calling it "the heart of modern misogyny." Thoughts?Yeah, I also really liked what I percieved to be an even-handed portrayal of the RP founder. It was interesting how the author juxtaposed him with Gian Gomeshi, pointing out that it's the self-avowed feminist and women's studies minor who's facing sexual assault charges. I mean, his reading list for the "RP boys" was a bit bizarre but I liked that he brought it back to society at large, rather than scapegoating the self-avowed "anti-feminists." The article wasn't polished, but it wasn't a bland … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/16 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4Feminists: What feminist writings do you wish that RPers would read?You're right that you don't need women for anything besides sex. In fact, I'd argue alongside the MGTOWs: you don't even need us for that. Going one step further, we don't need people. It's logical to have trust issues. Humans, as a species, are unpredictable. If you can rely solely on yourself, it saves a lot of heartache. I don't flatter myself that my male friends and family members need me. I just try to reciprocate the good they do for me. They listen, so I listen back. Confess a sexual att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/16 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Q4Feminists: What feminist writings do you wish that RPers would read?Yeah, I regret killing the conversation. And I can appreciate where you're coming from - or, at least, I can respect the parallels. Your race example is perfect. Edit: for brevity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/16 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Q4Feminists: What feminist writings do you wish that RPers would read?I guess the trick is to listen - I like that you mentioned that. But, yeah, you might want to skip the rest of this: I'm pretty solidly feminist. I do, however, second your assertion that feminist forums have been doing a poor job of tackling men's issues (in spite of the oft cited assertion that feminism is about gender equality for everyone - which it is, I think, ideally.) Problems arise because both sides keep envisioning gender politics as a zero-sum game. And, in a way, it's become that: i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/16 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4Feminists: What feminist writings do you wish that RPers would read?Feminism, at its core, is a set of opinions, opinions about what "should" happen, and what people "should" do. If that's your definition of feminism, I'm not a feminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/16 09:53 PM |
| 3 | Q4Feminists: What feminist writings do you wish that RPers would read?Ah, but when we expound on commonly understood ideas in an academic context, it becomes "scholarship" (masters'-splaining? doctoralsplaining?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/16 11:13 AM |
| 3 | Q4Feminists: What feminist writings do you wish that RPers would read?Hey, I read your recent piece on TradCon women. Genuinely, thanks for taking time out to respond. On the one hand, I like that she's addressing these issues at all. On the other hand, her article does strike me as a little "safe" as far as think pieces go. It also seems presumptuous when posted in this context, like if I showed up in a foreign country saying, "I'm college educated and a US citizen. Work with me and I'll help you sort out your problems so that you can get yourselves recognized at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/16 10:58 AM |
| 2 | Autism is a sexual/romantic death sentence.Feminist here, apologizing in advance: I might fancy autistic people a little too much. My father, both his parents, and his brother are all mathematicians. Since I grew up in that milieu, I came to associate autistic traits with intelligence (this connection, between autism and mathematical giftedness, might make more sense if you've heard of John Nash or Paul Erdős). Early on, my oldest and best childhood friend was diagnosed with autism. As we grew up, our friendship got more sexual in nature… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/16 12:42 AM |
| 5 | Q4Feminists: What feminist writings do you wish that RPers would read?I wish they'd read this, then post their reactions. It's a mainstream feminist accademic, writing about how men's issues have been largely overlooked by the intellectual establishment. Please note: I don't wholeheartedly endorse the article but I did enjoy reading it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 10:25 PM |
| 1 | RP vs BP juxtaposition on what an alpha would do in these hypothetical scenarios... share your thoughts!Thank you! You wrote some good prompts! Did you get what you were after from us blu(ish) pills? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 01:53 AM |
| 1 | How Much of Belief in Feminism is Just Women Trying to Get the Approval of Society?Erhm, either you accidentaly switched 'former' and 'latter' or I misunderstood something :) That I did. Sputid dyslexia :( What would you lose by rebranding yourself as an egalitarian? I use the term "feminism" because, at its best, it encompasses centuries' worth of discourse, addressing gender inequality as a whole, whereas the term "egalitarianism" doesn't carry the same history. In this sense, the word is sort of like an anchor, reminding us that feminism is a field of study built upon layer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 01:49 AM |
| 2 | RP vs BP juxtaposition on what an alpha would do in these hypothetical scenarios... share your thoughts!Aw, thanks! I had fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 12:09 AM |
| 4 | RP vs BP juxtaposition on what an alpha would do in these hypothetical scenarios... share your thoughts!I am sure there are plenty of non-soul-sucking ways to be an alpha, going by the OP's definition of the word. However, I have always fantasized about what it would be like to be a manipulative asshole. Thank you for enabling me to explore this fantasy. Hold a quizzical stare for just a little too long. Ideally, one of your friends gets edgy, jumps up, and offers you his seat, at which point you laugh like your friend is overreacting and tell him to sit back down. Otherwise, look between the guy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/16 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRAYeah, even as I was seconding you on Hoff Summers, I was wondering how many people (both feminist and non-feminist identified) would respect her self-identification. I hadn't heard about the controversy before, maybe in part because she is more popular in MRA circles. I've noticed you saying that "they kicked her out." I'm not sure that's possible. Or rather, I guess that depends on whether we think of feminism as a process for arriving at and analyzing opinions, a set of inflexible opinions, or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/16 10:59 AM |
| 2 | If these women are so proud to show their nipples, why aren't they proud to show their faces?Ah, I guess I've got more empathy because of my work situation. I'm not big into the "free the nipple" thing one way or the other; however, I am politically liberal in my personal life. I also work in a relatively conservative environment. My coworkers are competent and kind - I have a lot of trust in their professional judgement. I try to refrain from alienating them politically in part because I'd like to keep my job, in part because I hope to enact change in more subtle ways, and in part beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/16 01:09 AM |
| 8 | If these women are so proud to show their nipples, why aren't they proud to show their faces?I thought oxfordquestionmark and sublimemongrel provided great answers to this questions the first time you posted it. I notice you keep using the word "shame." Are you maybe projecting the way that you would feel in their situation onto them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/16 12:17 AM |
| 1 | How many disorders do you have?In a sense, it's like a prisoner writing a book about how to not get caught. Right! But I might read that book. An inmate has plenty of time to reflect on what they did wrong to get caught. Someone who's never been caught might lack insight into the process - luck (including demographic factors) might have just conspired to keep them from being prosecuted. Not to say their advice wouldn't be useful... I think the optimal advice would come from someone who's fucked up and bounced back (but, as yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 07:54 PM |
| 1 | How many disorders do you have?Hehe. I think this actually happens quite a bit. The good psychiatrists just limit that shit to weekends. Anxiolytics, stimulants, opioids - you'd be hard-pressed to find a med student who hasn't done some "field research." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 07:41 PM |
| 1 | How many disorders do you have?If it makes you feel any better, a lot of mental health professionals are also mental health consumers. We're just sometimes reluctant to discuss it. Like, wouldn't a dentist with perfect teeth instill more confidence? Probably. But then again, I reassure myself, I'd also be more trusting of a personal trainer if I knew that they had recieved personal training from others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 07:37 PM |
| 1 | How many disorders do you have?But ADHD definitely exasperates depression and anxiety. This is true for me too. I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid and might have aged out of it as an adult (psychological disorders can be slippery.) However, a lot of my anxiety is linked to disorganization, and sadly disorganization exacerbates anxiety for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 07:27 PM |
| 3 | How many disorders do you have?I think experiencing opiate withdrawals before you finished highschool just means you experienced opiate withdrawals before you finished highschool. The context of your optiate use (motivations and situational factors) might say something about your psychological functioning - I don't wanna deprive you the right to identify as "fucked up." Just remember the flip side of "fucked up" is "life experience." You climbed out of a dark place at a young age - that counts for a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 07:22 PM |
| 2 | How many disorders do you have?I love this thread. Both you and /u/cruelironage are intuiively describing the principles behind Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), which is a great compliment to CBT. In short, you have to acknowledge and validate your feelings (acceptance) before you can choose a plan of action and move forward (commitment). I teach this stuff but it's much easier said than done. Having constant reminders professionally about what I need to be doing for myself personally has served me really well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 07:07 PM |
| 2 | How many disorders do you have?I can't tell if you're trolling or not with this one. I mean, maybe, since my doctoral degree is in clinical psychology, I've been trained by people with a bias toward over-treating and over-diagnosing - we need to bill for something, after all. But the effect is the opposite of what you're describing. The DSM-V is rife with examples of totally benign, non-chronic disorders. "Adjustment disorder," for example - at risk of denigrating my own profession, that's just a synonym for "briefly and unde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRAHuh. How are you defining "radical"? I've never heard anyone put Hillary Clinton into that category. I mean, I've heard plenty of people disparage her, but never for that reason. I suspect we're hanging out in very different social circles and/or consuming very different media. There's nothing wrong with that, but you might have to back up a bit and provide examples of what makes the mainstream radical. I like the Hoff Summers example - that totally counts as infighting to me. She identifies her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Are Children the Right Choice for ANYONE?I'm embarrassed to admit this but, for me, it's almost totally about the DNA. I've always imagined that, one day, I'll prank the world with a tiny version of myself. It wouldn't be pissing into the gene pool so much as spiking the gene punch with some cray cray. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/16 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Are we speaking the same language ?One positive take-away from psychiatry's dark ages is that we now know sexual orientation is remarkably fixed. We tried pairing homoerotic stimuli with aversive stimuli (shocking the genitals or inducing vomiting), shifting attention to heterosexual stimuli during masturbation, addressing what we assumed were the underlying causes via psychoanalysis; and then, on the more extreme end, castration (both surgical and chemical), lobotomies, and hormonal therapies. Today, a subset of the people who s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/16 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP Aside from illegality, why shouldn't men be dominant?Sure, if it's within the terms of the relationship. I mean, I'm assuming you're envioning a 24-7 D/s scenario where both parties agree to practice power play outside of the bedroom. Then again, even people who confine their kink to the bedroom can enjoy playful discipline. I wouldn't assume you're within the "confines of the law" though. If I give a girl or guy a playful, consensual spanking as the conclusion to a minor domestic dispute, a neighbor can still call the cops on us. And if it gets o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/16 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP Aside from illegality, why shouldn't men be dominant?I hope I'm not the one who gave you the impression that that would be the feminist response. (I don't know of any other feminists on PPD who've posted recently about legality in the context of sexual dominance.) One of my oldest friends is a Dom. He also sort of fancied himself my mentor in the BDSM scene (although I think I envisioned him more as my goofy big brother.) We were always more concerned about ethics than legality. Legality is a scary and amorphous place for people who hurt others co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/16 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Q4women: what do you think of the rise of male bisexuality?Young men in general are much less likely to be straight than women in the uk. I can't decide whether to make a crack about British boys' schools or rugby. In either case, I'm glad more guys are exploring sexuality. I sort of hoped this was what the MGTOW movement was about (their website was a disappointment). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/16 02:45 AM |
| 2 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRAOh, I like the No True Scotsman fallacy! Didn't know it had a name (thanks Google.) I think the problem with being an MRA is that you have the men's liberation movement to contend with too. It's like having a twin who graduated early from Harvard, got his MD, and joined Doctors without Borders. In this scenario your mom is feminism, and each Thanksgiving she's sad because your twin is in Africa, and she keeps belittling you and talking over you and telling you your twin would never say such dumb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 09:31 PM |
| 2 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRAAgreed. I probably jive with the OP on most things politically, just judging by the content of the publication he writes for. But his wording caught my attention too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP Is their such a thing as RP ethics? IF so what are they?True! I guess I just see these two movements as unexpectedly similar in some regards, beyond what you're describing. For example, the idea of "awakening" - like, joining these groups typically entails a paradigm shift, coupled with an admission of vulnerability (where you admit to being a "beta" or an "addict"). I mean, the rhetoric is great for promoting cohesion, above and beyond the typical "us-them" bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 08:53 PM |
| 9 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRAYeah. But the language does make sense, given what you're looking to attract. Please tell me you plan to interview people who aren't "reformed" as well! I mean, I identify myself as a feminist but there's a reason I like this subreddit. The media is so siloed nowadays - it's refreshing to hear from people whom I actually disagree with. Fishing for "reformed" MRAs will only confirm ideas we already hold as true. Edit: Was that a downvote for including the word "feminist" in a post or for saying w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP Is their such a thing as RP ethics? IF so what are they?Exactly! Just the shift in social milieu is helpful. As an atheist, I have to do a little more cognitive legwork to make the program work for me. But then, some elements that I initially dismissed as dogma (the emphasis on a higher power and on powerlessness, for example) actually did me good. Overall, I'm more open-minded and just a touch humbler as a result of my exposure to 12-step rhetoric. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 05:03 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP Is their such a thing as RP ethics? IF so what are they?Nothing wrong with cults, as long as there's no forced recruitment. I got sober working a 12-step program. I see a lot of similarities between that and RP. You got the "awakening," be it spiritual or Matrix-inspired rationality. Then you have a program of self-improvement, aimed at staying sober or upping the n-count. And, throughout it all, you're united by having suffered due to some common factor (hypergamy or alcoholism). I don't mean to imply that RP adherents are all psychologically damage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP Is their such a thing as RP ethics? IF so what are they?Good point. Your response got me to look up the distinction between those terms. So, maybe we could argue that RP has a shared sense of direction (values) but no no-go zones (morals) or well-trodden paths (ethics) to guide the way. I am wondering if the shaming of betas and the emphasis on n-count speaks to some shared rules of conduct (ethics) and ideas about what's "right" (morals). I mean, no one is saying, "sluts are evil" (which would be straight-up morality), but even RP detractors tend to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 12:21 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP Is their such a thing as RP ethics? IF so what are they?This is really interesting. I'd argue RP has some collective values, they just go unspoken. It's like, the first rule of RP ethics is not to discuss RP ethics. This makes sense to me: I always assumed values were for hypocrits. Then I realized I had values whether I liked it or not. So, you might all value self-determination and independence (hence the reluctance to discuss shared ethics) but that there's a value in and of itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 11:30 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP Is their such a thing as RP ethics? IF so what are they?they dont like double standards Agreed. I mean, I don't understand RP well enough to make any definitive statements about it, nor do I have the emotional fortitude to hang out on TRP (as a female, that shit gets exhausting.) But I do see some values hinted at in RP posts: self-improvement, emotional fortitude, upholding tradition, and the willingness to confront hypocrisy. Personally, I think both sides spend too much time calling out hypocrisy, trying to convince the other side that their actio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 11:10 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Looks do not matter for womenOne of the cool things about identifying as a feminist on this subreddit is that you RP kids attribute so much power us. On the other subreddits, I'm just another milk-toast SJW in a circle jerk, scorning the occasional outsider 'cause "Patriarchy!" On this subreddit, in contrast, I'm a fucking super-villain. With that said, I think you're giving us a little too much credit. Obviously it's true that most feminists preach body acceptance as a ploy to turn everyone into overweight lesbians (male-b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/16 10:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Too many redpills are playing Russian Roulette with their sex lives.Alright, that's a good point. I guess, as a female who prefers being dominant with guys, I'm coming in with a personal bias. I mean, I'm all down for kinky sex, and I agree that submissive females outnumber dominant females, but submitting sexually is a personal turn off. The misunderstandings I've had have been more in line with what you described: guys edging toward kinky male-dominant sex and me redirecting to something that we both enjoy. Those experiences weren't mind-blowing but they weren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/16 04:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Too many redpills are playing Russian Roulette with their sex lives.Not going there with someone whose name might escape me the next day. Fuck. That. This. This is good advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 10:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Too many redpills are playing Russian Roulette with their sex lives.See, this is where I think the Russian roulette metaphor comes in. Even following RP logic, what you're doing is incredibly risky. Like, let's say 5 our of 6 women love it when you get rough, forging past their LMR. So you have 5 blanks, each of which gives you a brief thrill and a little street cred from your friends. Then you have that sixth woman (the bullet). If she's brave enough, she'll come after you. Felony convictions alone destroy lives, never mind sex crime felony convictions. But may… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 10:50 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Too many redpills are playing Russian Roulette with their sex lives.I don't think the concern is that they're getting detailed tips - detailed tips are great. The concern is that the tips could massively backfire. I worry for the girls involved in surprise choking during rough sex, sure - choking is more dangerous than most people think - but I also worry for the guys involved. Sex offenders in the US are second class citizens - that shit destroys lives. My fellow feminists often seem to side with the RP on this one, saying that rapists are rapists and good peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Do you deny that any woman has a fantasy of overpowering, forced sex, or rape fantasies?The thing is, blindly shooting for anyone's unexpressed fetish is always dangerous. This. Exactly. So, yeah, some women have rape fantasies - they actually seem pretty common, relative to other kinks. And, yes, "no" is still a hard barrier. Even for women who do have rape fantasies, they still have boundaries. You can't force yourself on one of them and expect them to be chill about it. I might fantasize about my workplace burning down so that I can stay home, but I'd be horrified if a real fire… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 03:54 AM |
| 2 | Is calling someone gay/queer in order to mock them homophobic?I laugh at gay jokes too (legitimately funny gay jokes, not outdated rubbish gay jokes like those 1980s TV skits where the joke is just that they're campy.) With that said, I think you're dismissing a useful concept (discomfort felt toward people who engage in same-sex relationships) because you don't like the word's etymology (which does, admittedly, bring to mind the same startle response that some people get toward spiders.) So, yeah, there's no one leaping out of their seat because holyshitg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?South Park did a good episode on that. "Niiice!" But seriously, yeah, women can be predatory. And there's a grey area that people don't like talking about - things that seem ill-advised but not unethical. Come to think about it, I dated a 16-year-old when I was 18 too. She was one and a half years younger. I didn't think much of it because I was 17 and she was 16 when we got together. Looking back, I do wonder if I dodged some disapproval just by virtue of being a female. It wasn't nonconsensual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?Yeah, that is a massive double standard. 18 and 16 sounds fine to me. 16 and 21 is pretty extreme. How do you think about it? I mean, if you'd lived elsewhere, she could have been risking a felony conviction. Do you think her being female changes the way you view the situation? I mean, it clearly impacted how other people saw it but I'm curious what you think about it looking back. Edit: Forgot you mentioned age of consent in your locale is 16. I edited the post accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender?I like this post. My parents were big into the "just be youself" thing. But, if I was just myself all the time, I'd be unemployed. There was some role reversal in my family too. My parents were both academics but my dad did take care of a lot of the "mom" stuff on his off hours. Like, he could do a mean french braid, and he was a little more empathic than she was. I don't think I'll live up to his good example but it's something to shoot for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?Romeo and Juliet laws typically allow for a 1 to 4 year age gap, 4 years seeming to be the most common in US states (thanks Wiki!) In some states, the age gap described in the OP would constitute a misdemeanor and not a felony since it's within 4 years. In my home state the current laws allow for a 4 year age gap so my first two serious boyfriends would be in the clear (were someone to press charges for some reason.) In my state of residence, my first two serious boyfriends would have been commi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?Heya, /u/TheChemist158, just wanted to say a quick and deeply felt thanks for this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 11:05 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?Unfortunately (fortunately?) they often do. I generally worry that statutory laws often get misapplied to kids who'd do better with a stern talking to. But I'd like to see some external disincentive for a dumb 19-year-old to do what this guy did to an insecure 15-year-old. I have stories very similar to TheChemist158's. I don't want to see my old boyfriends behind bars but, at the same time, I wish their was more help on both ends: teaching boys and girls to communicate sexual boundaries clearly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 10:56 AM |
| 5 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?I think this is a great response. I've seen men and women both fall into a similar pattern; on the one hand, being in a relationship can make us feel valued but, on the other hand, our partners' behavior in a relationship can hurt deeper, outweighing that superficial sense of contentment when we "belong" to somebody. At times like this, it's hard to pull the plug. The results can range from rape and domestic violence to dead bedrooms and emotional abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 10:46 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?I agree with most of your post, however... That sounds like your beta seeking sexual strategy running. Once you've secured commitment from him, your alpha seeking sexual strategy takes over. Cue the starfish sex and dead bedroom. This sounds like fortune-telling. We're all guilty of it (myself included) but I doubt anyone on this subreddit knows anyone else well enough to predict how their relationship will go down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?Ha! Seconded. "Trump did nothing wrong" doesn't cut it. That post crossed a line for me personally. Not sure what line or what it means to cross it... At least he got our attention with it (not sure if that was the intent or not) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 10:25 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Does a woman still want sex if she gives LMR/'soft no's? Do you care?I don't know - maybe this is a gendered thing. His response made me cringe physically. Like fetishizing the grey areas of consent is fine - frankly, I have some weird kinks myself - but the idea of cheerfully talking about ways you'd enact those kinks in ways that you know to be harmful to others... Jesus fuck. I mean, I'm a female, and I try not to creep shame on this thread. But if a guy posted on PPD about how he felt emotionally pressured to do butt stuff, and if I responded with a post abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender?Ah, that makes me feel better about my dissertation. It was rubbish. Also, the old joke: "there are two types of dissertations: perfect and finished." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 09:24 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender?Ah, sorry. I meant that as a joke but it came out a bit colder than I intended. The idea of putting coins in and waiting for a pay off reminded me of how I track upvotes - like, do I think Reddit karma will pay off somehow at some point? Since I'm in an LTR, I guess my own fantasy must be having my supervisor walk in and tell me my Reddit comments were so thoughtful, she's going to stop riding my ass - in fact, congratulations, she says, I can go home now and take a nap. Edit: * is sad that her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 09:21 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender?That felt really good to type up. Thanks for the post. Thank you. That felt really good to read. I had issues with personal hygiene too. When we're bullied/ostracized growing up, it's sometimes hard to say what came first: neglecting ourselves physically or being shamed by others for neglecting ourselves. I also sometimes worry that women like myself, in our struggle to have our own hurt validated, can end up invalidating the hurt of the men around us. For example, I was sexualized too early (12… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/16 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender?Yeah, I agree. I think most people feel a mix of internally and externally directed anger when they're hurt emotionally by others. I'm much more in touch with the internally directed anger (i.e., shame and guilt). It's hard for me to identify how other people contribute to my problems. I might have had an easier time in middle school if I hated the bullies rather than fearing them. As an adult, I'm trying to let go of blame altogether while committing myself to change. I mean, shame and anger mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/16 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender?Aw, hang in there! With 1,603 points of comment karma, someone's bound to sit on your dick eventually | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/16 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender?I think vulnerability is like nudity. I have to protect against flashing too much skin at work - even sleeveless shirts sometimes leave me a little too naked. But if I never showed skin my clothes would get insufferably hot and stinky. Trying to avoid being vulnerable for an extended period is like wearing long-sleeved polyester without changing clothes - it's suffocating and it chafes. You just need to find safe places to change clothes and/or let your defenses down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/16 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: how has your upbringing and/or cultural background shaped your thoughts about gender?Are you comfortable disclosing your field? I'm always curious about people with doctoral degrees. My friend believes that dissertations reflect the writer's character - probably less true in the STEM sciences but, however you frame a topic, it provides a window into how you think about the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/16 09:41 PM |
| 1 | TRP's observations about female nature are based off the meat market in the USA, a society that values emotional narcissism over rational self-confidence and weakness over strength.Huh! I'm sort of wondering if you're local. (It's pretty easy to guage my location based on my comment history.) EDIT to add: and we have a huge influx of non-locals because our medical and tech industries are booming. So in many ways, we are having a clash of cultures in my metropolitan area. LOL You're describing my city exactly! No need to post your location. I am super curious though: how much do you hate Ohio State? Actually, this exchange just inspired me to bite the bullet and post someth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 11:51 PM |
| 3 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Thanks! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Machine learning - I'm jealous. My dissertation was on algorithmic predictive models for violence risk. I wish I knew more about the alternatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Now I'm wondering if you're not just flattering yourself by assuming that I'd be flattered by you judging me for judging you for judging RidinTheMonster for judging you for judging women for judging men. (But, in all seriousness, you might just want to drop this. At this point, I'm just constructing increasingly silly and elaborate sentences for the hell of it.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.So, wait, are you judging me for judging you for judging /u/RidinTheMonster for judging you for judging women for judging men? This is getting confusing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Are you forensic psych too? You strike me as a forensic psych guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Women hate lots of things in men, that is what makes them so judgmental "Judgmental" has negative connotations; it does, ironically, seem a bit judgy. So, at risk of judging you for judging /u/RidinTheMonster for judging you for judging women for judging men, I second them on this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 05:15 PM |
| 2 | PurplePillDebate to endorse TrumpW00t! Your post-hoc consent gets my upvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 04:57 PM |
| 3 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Glad I could second you! Yeah, if you treat women like teenagers, you'll attract women who like that shit. And teenagers never feel comfortable when dad gets unhappy. I mean, a lot of people do enjoy that relationship dynamic but the expectation that the guy stay strong is one significant drawback. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Yeah, I guess you're right. But I like that he's talking urges and not intentions. I figure we all have some pretty fucked up urges (at least, I hope we do - it's not just me is it?) Wanting to do something harmful isn't great but it isn't exactly abnormal either. Intending to do something harmful though - that's where I get uncomfortable. Edit: actually, I'm going back and forth on this. I have totally fantasized about hurting people whom I was angry at. It's not a frequent thing but I think it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.I went straight from sunny NorCal where anger is a dirty word to a rustbelt urban area where anger is the only word. I don't think either mentality is great. NorCal folks smoke pot to self-distract from anger but end up getting passive aggressive when you use their vegan cutting board for cheese. Guys here cultivate their anger, then drink until they lose self-control, unleashing all that pressure on people/pets/furniture. I have seen anger put to good use though, to set boundaries or enhance mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.You say "emotional issues" like that isn't the norm. I say: there's always good reason behind the counterproductive, emotionally reactive shit that we do in our day to day lives. That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to be more effective, or that we shouldn't be held accountable for our actions. We just gotta accept that we're where we're at for a reason before we can get our shit together and go elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Right! I see a lot of guys veer towards "angry" because the alternative is so aversive. Like, I suspect some guys are frightened (or at least deeply distressed) by the idea of being hurt emotionally. "Angry" feels empowering - it ups the pulse and motivates. Being hurt is all well and good if you're among people whom you trust but, if you've been taught that trust is dangerous, then anger becomes the safer option. Anyway, I send you hugs, from the other side of the hurt/angry coin. Sometimes I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.Right, so what I'm arguing is maybe it's not the weakness that's a turn-off but the awkwardness with being weak. We can complain all we want about people being judgmental (be they women, men, agendered people, anonymous Redditors, whatever); unfortunately, we can't control others. The best we can do is become more confident in ourselves, thereby buffering ourselves against judgments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.As a person that was ostracized in school, it's going to take more than "discomfort" to prove otherwise. Sorry - I'm not sure I quite understand. Discomfort in what and how would it prove otherwise? I feel you on the ostracism though. That was my situation exactly! It might also explain why I'm a shit cryer (pickly and sniffly and slow to settle down). I expect people to feel disgust when I cry because that's what I was used to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Women are absolutely allergic to weak males.I suspect a lot of the men complaining about a feminine aversion to male weakness might be guys who're uncomfortable with their own weaknesses - which is fine! I'm a female who's uncomfortable with her own weaknesses too. I just think the expectation that people will judge you for being weak is often a self-fulfilling prophesy. In any case, when someone who's uncomfortable with the idea of being weak displays weakness, it can come across as very off-putting. For example, I hate that I cry easily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 03:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Cheating is not black and white, and definitely not always pre-meditatedOr at least not get to determine what is considered normality. Yeah, obviously, I have to disagree with the first part of what you said. But this second part makes sense. Just beware: vanilla/monogamous/heterosexual folks are a fickle, impressionable lot. Their sense of what's "normal" changes constantly. That's why I prefer to think in terms of what works. What's normal often speaks to what has worked, but what works moving forward often predicts new norms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 02:25 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Cheating is not black and white, and definitely not always pre-meditatedRight! I estimate that I was being about 80% tongue-in-cheek. The other 20% was me recalling how one poly/kinky/queer friend turned the discussion of sexual boundaries into a hobby in and of itself. But then, he was a generically unattractive computer programmer (a literal neck-beard, as much as I hate that term) who tended toward kinky, intellectually-stimulating relationships with actress/dancer/artist/model types. I mean, I think he exhausted himself emotionally sometimes, trying to play whit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 02:16 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Cheating is not black and white, and definitely not always pre-meditatedCheating is black and white. You either cheat or you don't. This is true in certain kinds of relationships but, increasingly, I'm seeing grey areas spring up. In vanilla, monogamous, heterosexual pairings - especially if the man and woman people share similar cultural backgrounds - then cheating can often be tacitly understood to encompass a specific set of behaviors (kissing, heavy petting, and sex outside of the relationship). But kinky/poly/queer folks had to go and complicate shit, along wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/16 05:15 AM |
| 2 | Who's romantic advice would you trust more? A woman who has had one long successful relationship or a woman who has had many short failed relationships?Huh. I guess I'd take advice from her, since her relationship history most closely matches my own. But not if she described her own relationships as "failed." That suggests she came into them with an end-goal, which is fine, it just isn't how I operate. Calling a relationship "failed" because you got dumped is like calling a picnic "failed" because it started raining midway through - while not technically incorrect, it smacks of self pity. I worry people who talk like that are less likely to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/16 10:05 PM |
| 3 | Who's romantic advice would you trust more? A woman who has had one long successful relationship or a woman who has had many short failed relationships?Could I choose neither of them? I mean, I'd like to take advice from someone who dates like me, only better. I mess around a fair bit while single but also tend to enjoy LTRs. My ideal "relationship mentor" (is that a thing?) would be someone who doesn't automatically consider it "failure" when a relationship ends, who enjoys no-strings sometimes but who pursues LTRs as opportunities for mutual growth, stabilty, and happiness. I'm not arguing that the advice of the other two women wouldn't be go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/16 08:54 PM |
| 2 | PurplePillDebate to endorse TrumpDCOM, I'm honored to bare witness to the evolving nuances of your identity, like how you dropped the "ruiner of fun" flare after that thread about drunk sex an condoms (seriously, that made me smile.) Point of clarification: What is your opinion on those of us who identify as DCOM yuri? (i.e., Japanese lesbian erotica based on DCOM, not to be confused with DCOM femslash; we yuri find the term "femslash" derogatory because it is a Western appropriation of our identities as fan-based lesbian eroti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/16 08:17 PM |
| 1 | TRP's observations about female nature are based off the meat market in the USA, a society that values emotional narcissism over rational self-confidence and weakness over strength.This is interesting! I've lived mostly on the West and East Coasts, in liberal urban areas. I wouldn't say gender roles were equal by any means, or that TRP advice couldn't have been helpful to men in select contexts (EDM clubs, maybe?), but it wasn't until moving to the mid-West that I started feeling really awkward, like maybe TRP mindset is natural out here. For example, my female coworkers just seem little more traditional about marriage and family. And yet, they're no more empathetic toward… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/16 02:52 PM |
| 1 | This is why TBP mocks TRP.Capitalism is just shit giving with green paper involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/16 01:05 AM |
| 2 | BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test?Feminist blue pill here - I don't think that's fair either, at least not in cases where the man demanding the paternity test has taken or is being told to take some responsibility for the child. I could envision a convoluted scenario where a man who doesn't pay child support drags a kid to get tested without the mom's consent - like, maybe the man refused to accept responsibility for the kid at birth but now he's changed his mind and wants the male legal guardian - who did assume responsibility … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/16 01:00 AM |
| 4 | This is why TBP mocks TRP.Your screen name is perfect in this context. I had a friend who never voted in elections. He talked statistically about how little each vote counted. It made a lot of sense. Giving a shit is similar to voting. We might care enormously about something but our care still counts for very little in the sea of opinions. You could argue Kant's categorical imperative on this one: if nobody voted and nobody gave a shit, the world would be a much more unpleasant place. Or you could argue in terms of pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/16 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Madonna/whore complex = AF/BB?This is perfect. But then, I <3 any response that reframes dichotomies as continuums, especially if the take-home message is that life at the extreme poles poses extra challenges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/16 11:31 PM |
| 2 | Madonna/whore complex = AF/BB?I've started thinking of the Madonna/whore complex as more similar to the creep/orbiter double bind. Like, it sometimes seems as if there are only two labels available to women: we can have sex and be labeled whores or we can not have sex and be labeled prudes. RP men describe a similar dilemma. They can express sexual desire and be labeled creeps or not express sexual desire and be labeled nice guys. For a woman, the only escape is a successful long-term relationship - once "taken," she's just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/16 11:16 PM |
| 0 | What do you guys make of this video (Masks off - a challenge to men)?I'm confused by this too. As a feminist, I don't hate him. His message sounds good - what I heard of it at least. I shut the video off early because of the pretentious spoken word format and the grating piano music. I actually reluctantly second /u/DaphneDK, at least regarding the need for some old school heavy metal to balance out the surpluss of earnestness and sensitivity. Victim blaming is an important issue - I'm all for PSAs about it - but could we drop the two-girls-one-cup soundtrack? Re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/16 11:11 AM |
| 2 | Should more straight couples try pegging?But what do I know Im just a privileged guy that that doesnt know anything because Im male. And I'm just a privileged girl who doesn't know anything because I'm first-world, white, able-bodied, slim, cis-gendered, and over-educated. Conversations about privilege can be helpful in that they increase self-awareness. But using the concept of "privilege" to silence or emotionally invalidate others is both selfish and counterproductive. (I know you were being facetious and that I'm preaching to the c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/16 10:44 AM |
| 1 | Should more straight couples try pegging?Haha! Naw. I think it's actually pretty hard to look feminine while easing down onto something big. I mean, women can do it, but it's tricky - like a man staying manly while licking whip cream off his fingers. So, no disrespect for feminine size queens intended: they most likely possess unique grace and flexibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/16 10:31 AM |
| 20 | [Question for Women] What is AWALT about you?AWALT (except when we're not): I work in a female-dominated profession, wear cardigans, drink tea all day, and get misty-eyed when people talk about their feels. I'm hypersensitive about my job performance - as if constructive criticism signals failure. Quarterly evals are coming up and I'm dreading it. I try hard not to cry in front of supervisors but I sometimes - oftentimes - cry anyway. I had a sexually fulfilling four-year relationship with another woman, I enjoy women's bodies, and I'm mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/16 08:11 AM |
| 7 | [Question for Women] What is AWALT about you?I comfort test all the time. This usually comes in the form of me trying to touch my boyfriend's penis. He swats my hand away and then I ask him if he still loves me. I don't know why I find this so adorable. Awesome response! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/16 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Should more straight couples try pegging?Dude, I'm not fishing for sympathy. I'm just acknowledging that you have a point. The women who are into pegging - outliers, all of us - are probably not going to look down on a guy for getting pegged. It would be pretty fuckingn hypocritical since - for the most part - we submit to getting penetrated too. I do agree with you, however, in that people do sometimes look down on guys for taking it in the ass. I just want reassure the guys reading this thread who actually like butt stuff that the gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/16 11:17 PM |
| 0 | Should more straight couples try pegging?As the one doing the pegging, I didn't notice my opinions shift too much. I think I might feel more tender toward guys after I peg them - protective even - but that surplus of warmth and goodwill is a post-coital thing. I like all the guys I've pegged, but I don't think of them as "fragile." If anything, they've all been more on the masculine end of the spectrum. How a guy feels about himself after pegging is a different story. Most guys seem to maintain confidence in their masculinity. But then… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/16 10:54 PM |
| 2 | Should more straight couples try pegging?I can see how you might see that double standard around oral sex reflected in popular culture. But pegging is still so niche, and it's a lot of work on the woman's end. Even as someone who does it and finds it hot, I can't imagine shaming someone for not wanting to do it. And if feminists are as sexually selfish as people say we are, then we'd best not promote pegging too aggressively - there are much simpler, lazier ways to get off as a female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/16 10:41 PM |
| 2 | Should more straight couples try pegging?There is nothing more masculine than the bravery and stoicism that one demonstrates by taking an eight-inch strap-on anally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/16 10:29 PM |
| 3 | Should more straight couples try pegging?I liked /r/GridReXX's comments on the subject because it matches my experiences pretty well. I never had to worry much about trust-building as a female. Even a guy who won't trust a girl with his phone number will still trust her with his dick. Pegging is another matter entirely. You can seriously injure someone if you're not careful. So guys who're into the idea in theory are still understandably slow to warm up to it in practice. I think I got more conscientious about communication, both durin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/16 10:22 PM |
| 6 | How Much of Belief in Feminism is Just Women Trying to Get the Approval of Society?I like feminism as a means of evaluating the world, not as a set of inflexible evaluations. Feminists who subscribe to the former definition can, in good conscience, exclude people from their ranks: if you don't espouse the "correct" set of opinions, then you're not a true feminist from their perspective. People like me who subscribe to the latter definition are stuck sharing a table with people whom we neither respect nor agree with. For example, I'd love to distance myself from an old research… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/16 11:52 PM |
| 3 | Women's magazines are mostly vain and pathetic.Dan Savage, a gay politically liberal sex advice columnist, has to reitterate this a lot (with some variation, depending on the specifics of the situation): if your spouse isn't making any effort to meet your needs sexually, even after you've spoken to them about it, then you can go elsewhere to get what you need. I'm hoping this advice will become more mainstream. It seems a lot more fair then the traditional, "wait around in celebacy for decades hoping that they'll change their mind." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/16 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Girls, I have some questions for you.I'm not single. I like smart, neurotic, open-minded guys with broad shoulders. Normalcy is a deal-breaker. My brain prefers split checks but my heart says, "let him pay, if he insists on it." I also sometimes enjoy picking up the check myself if I know a guy doesn't have much money; it feels good, treating someone to a meal once in a while. I don't believe in chivalry but I respect chivalrous men. It's a cultural thing and, I get the sense, for some guys, it has a lot to do with honor. If they l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/16 01:40 AM |
| 12 | Marriage is Declining Because Women Are PigsBlue(ish) pill feminist female here, seconding /u/sjamad. That Mother Jones article isn't just sexist, it's also blatantly classist. To quote from the original article: Well-educated men are fairly reliable; they have good earning power; they generally aren't abusive [...] Just based on that, does anyone wanna take a guess as to whether the author, Kevin Drum, is college educated or not? Fuck that guy. In my experience, the more socioeconomically disadvantaged men are, the more likely they are t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/16 10:34 PM |
| 1 | I was Banned from AskMRP for "You are not entitled to sex with your wife." CMV?For what it's worth, I think loving husbands and loving wives deserve sex with their spouses but they're not entitled to it. They are entitled to seek sexual fulfillment elsewhere if they've made a reasonable attempt to communicate their unmet needs without success. I deserve right of way when the traffic light in front of me turns green. I'm not entitled to drive forward when someone else is in the intersection - that shit is dangerous. So here's what you do - and this is assuming you've taken … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/16 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?That I was. I genuinely agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Here. If you'd really like to keep debating me, let's switch to a more even playing field. I do feel somewhat guilty for setting you off. I pulled rank professionally, then insulted your intelligence. You have every right to be annoyed. But I can't make amends for being a jackass if you keep responding with things that directly contradict empirical research. Or rather, I'm finding it harder and harder to resist the pull to prove you wrong. It's counterproductive. I'd like to stop being a dick no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Too true! And I have been overlooking the distinction between romantic, emotional, and sexual desires. Thanks for guiding it back to the original question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Yep :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 04:42 PM |
| 4 | Question for both pills: What's something about your own pill that makes you question its validity?I love /r/sleeping_willow_'s response, even though I don't agree 100%. So, my apologies in advance for ripping off the formatting... I'm reluctant to identify as "blue" for the for following reasons: The BP seems to be defined solely as a reaction to the RP and I'd like to believe my stance is more nuanced than that. It's not just: "no, the RP is dumb." Sometimes BP posts strike me as lacking in empathy for the RP experience. I'm an asshole too but I aspire to be a relatively compassionate assho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Only thing is, they're not potential love or sex interests for me. Don't really understand why this is not enough for millenials anymore. But I guess so it goes when you insist the initimate is public and political. When you say "you insist," I figure you're using "you" in the general context. But just in case, let me reiterate: Who you want to fuck has nothing to do with your politics or your definition of gender. ... At least, I think that's the way it should be. There is nothing "transphobic"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?You're probably right - I do have a bad habit of coddling. So here's what I think straight up: do some introspection, don't give up in your quest to understand yourself, and come back to me when you can smell your own bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?I like that you say transman "that I know of." What with the media focus and Crying-Game-type narratives, we seem pretty interested in trying to spot transwomen, and have gotten better at spotting them as a result. You can sometimes pick up cues that a guy is trans but fewer people know what to look for. Where do you find all these people? Oakland, California, and to a lesser degree NYC. Edit: you say you've seen ladyboys but not transwomen. What's the distinction for you? For me, the only diffe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?That's true. I think it also has a lot to do with location and lifestyle. Like, right now, I live in the Midwest - there don't seem to be too many, if any, transmen in my neighborhood. In Oakland, California, I knew a bunch of transmen - we ran in the same social circles. Likewise at my undergrad in NYC. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 09:35 AM |
| 0 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Okay, I hate to say this but, as someone with a doctorate in clinical psychology, with specialized training and experience in the treatment of gender dysphoria, you're giving me way too much credit. There is no known form of psychotherapy that can "cure" gender dysphoria. Per the most recent version of the research-based, peer-reviewed standards of care for transgender and gender-nonconforming people: Treatment aimed at trying to change a person’s gender identity and expression to become more co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Yeah - it's a niche interest on both counts. I've just never heard of a gay man getting off to MtF porn. I mean, I want to emphasize just how straight the "chicks with dicks" thing is. So not all animals who eat food eat meat, but all carnivors fall under the umbrella of animals who eat food, and if you want to determine if meat is a food or not, the fact some animals eat meat almost exclusively is a pretty good indicator that it is... Fuck, that metaphor makes no sense. I guess I'm arguing tran… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 12:40 AM |
| 0 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Okay, fair enough - sort of like the misery induced by non-interference is outweighed by the potential unknown risks of interference (although I would argue that these aren't experimental drugs.) So then how about an adult transgender person electing to get top surgery? What was it about that that concerns you? Is it just the permanence of it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?When I'm in the presence of a bunch of transmen, I feel like I'm in the presence of a bunch of transmen - not men, not women, transmen - my brain registers them separately. However, I do maintain outward gender expression can be more salient to an observer than assigned sex at birth. Like, just the sheer number of straight men who consume MtF porn, or the fact that there are gay men who prefer transmen to cisgender men... I know I'm repeating myself. It almost seems, based on the examples that w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 12:11 AM |
| 0 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?I'm confused. What is it about non-life-saving drugs that makes you uncomfortable? Would you discourage that same middle-schooler with double-Ds from taking an aspirin if she got a bad headache? I can't tell if you're arguing from a "being natural is inherently good" perspective, from a "that's not the best fix to your problem" perspective, or from a "it's not a problem for you unless I say it's a problem for you" perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/16 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Yeah, I guess our conceptions of sexual orientation don't always neatly accommodate trans people. For example, I've subbed to transmen in a BDSM context but subbing to cisgendered men doesn't interest me. Conversely, I'm not much into the idea of topping a transman. Back in undergrad, it was fashionable to say that you were sexually indifferent to the gender dichotomy - not only am I not indifferent to it, I'm not even indifferent to the cis/trans distinction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/16 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?I second /u/ozymandias271. I don't fancy people over the age of 65 but I still support Medicare. And I don't think a male senior citizen is not a real male, just because I wouldn't screw him. Who you want to fuck has nothing to do with your politics or your definition of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/16 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?I thought "pansexual" meant anyone who goes to Burnig Man, has a tree tattoo, or lives in Berkeley, California. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/16 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?I think it's very rare for a straight-identified man to pursue a transman (FtM), just like it's rare for a gay-identified man to pursue a transwoman. The converse is relatively common. "Chicks with dicks" is a porn genre marketed to straight men. Meanwhile, I have a few FtM trans friends from undergrad who now date pretty exclusively within the gay male community. Finding a transwoman attractive doesn't make you shit, although it does up the odds that you like boobies. Likewise with transmen. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/16 10:54 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: would you date a transsexual?Transman: absolutely Transwoman: maybe I find the enactment of masculinity sexy: confident swagger, stoic expression, relaxed posture. Feminity can be hot too but I tend toward round, large-eyed, soft-bodied women. Tranwomen are less likely to match what I look for. Edit: completely forgot about Bailey Jay! I'm not sure if I want to date or if I'm just grateful that she exists. So cute, especially in glasses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/16 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Is the rise of the Hotwife/Cuckolding lifestyle a result of women's unrestricted hypergamy?To illustrate /u/DStoo's point: http://carmenicadiaz.net/zen/albums/april2014/0404fd14_jim.jpg http://pimpandhost.com/image/41420646-original.html (Not sure why I decided to look that up just now) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/16 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Is the rise of the Hotwife/Cuckolding lifestyle a result of women's unrestricted hypergamy?http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/abn/92/1/49/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/4455773/ http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.421.2309 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/16 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pillers: Question about sex for youRosanne Barr? Damn man, way to make dominant females feel sexy. I'm blue-grey if I had to pick a color, although I don't use the BP subreddit. I'm also mostly sexually dominant. Being submissive to men is a sexual turn-off; however, I am sometimes attracted to other dominant women. Edit: I wrote more, then thought better of it and abridged this post. Interesting thread! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/16 10:43 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] The only way to defeat obesity in the U.S. is to reject "fat acceptance" and treat it like smoking - ridicule, shame, and treat with contempt those who partake.Shame either works extremely well or extremely poorly. It does draw our attention to the behaviors that we want to change (overeating for example). And it's a neat example of negative reinforcement in that removing shame is good motivation to do stuff. Unfortunately, it's so unpleasant that it can enhance our "stuckness"; the mere thought of tackling a source of shame sometimes brings up more shame than we're willing to handle. Like, right now, I've got some paperwork to do and I'm so ashamed th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/16 09:29 PM |
| 4 | According to TRP, are bisexual women viable LTR material?I second /u/BiggerDthanYou: non-slutty bi chicks often won't tell you that they're bi. In fact, based on your post history, I'm surprised that slutty bi chicks risk telling you that they're bi. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/16 07:21 PM |
| 6 | Ladies: What is your REAL "n-count"?Screen name checks out :) But, seriously, I don't get this idea that a high n disqualifies you from an LTR. My mom's hinted at a high n (racked up rapidly, prior to meeting my father) and she's been with him for the past 45 years. If you choose an LTR, you can do an LTR - the question is just whether an LTR interests you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/16 09:19 AM |
| 2 | Ladies: What is your REAL "n-count"?Bonus points for degeneracy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/16 03:08 AM |
| 2 | Ladies: What is your REAL "n-count"?Ha! I'm either imagining one woman with a massive rotating wheel of dildos or a gang-bang at Sarah Lawrence College. Either way, it gets an upvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/16 02:38 AM |
| 6 | Ladies: What is your REAL "n-count"?Honestly, I've been more comfortable disclosing my n-count to friends in person than I am now, posting on an anonymous forum frequented by RP guys. But with that said... 18, only counting m/f PiV Add 14 if you count m/f oral and/or pegging Add 2 if you count f/f with a strap-on Add 3 if you count f/f oral So my n-count reads like some sort of bizarre math problem (which I guess is how you know I lived in Northern California for a long time). I am curious though, from an RP perspective, is my n c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/16 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Should the ENTIRETY of red pill be burned to the ground and not exist?BP and third wave feminism are not the same. Agreed. Hence the "and/or" conjunction. I'm curious why posting a similar question, either about the BP or third-wave feminism, would be a bad idea on this forum. I made the mistake of going on the RP message board after posting my response to this question. I still believe my original assertion intellectually - that there are benefits to the RP - but I'd forgotten how much actual RP rhetoric depresses me. Like, I think, in order to tolerate it's exis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/16 05:00 PM |
| 4 | Q4BP: Should the ENTIRETY of red pill be burned to the ground and not exist?No, it shouldn't cease to exist, and thanks for the compliment! It gives me warm feels when opposite sides find pockets of agreement within the shitstorm of gender politics. Do you think it'd be worth posting the reverse question to RP? I'm curious who thinks the PB and/or modern/third-wave feminism should cease to exist. I name both groups because I think third-wave feminism is as times more antithetical to RP than the BP message boards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/16 08:37 AM |
| 11 | Q4BP: Should the ENTIRETY of red pill be burned to the ground and not exist?Maybe this is why I'm reluctant to identify as straight-up "blue", even though I'm anything but red. I see some significant benefits to the RP: It validates men's emotional pain, portraying dissatisfaction with the straight dating scene as natural and understandable. And, without emotional validation, there is no moving forward. It encourages men to move forward on multiple fronts (socially, physically, and financially), achieving mastery as a means of combating stagnation. It reframes the conve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/16 08:17 AM |
| 1 | How can a male virgin develop confidence?Okay, fair enough. In you scenario, cocaine and alcohol in the club would be the psychopharmacological equivalent of an energy drink before cardio: not a bad idea, long as you stay hydrated. I might just be jealous because, to repeat old mistakes now, I'd have to cash in four years' worth of sobriety chips. I'm glad to be done with stupid but fuck do I still miss stupid sometimes :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/16 07:44 AM |
| 2 | How can a male virgin develop confidence?I dunno. My first time round, learning to navigate social situations, I had drugs and alcohol to lean on - highly effective short-term solutions for people with low self-confidence. The problem is, if you decide to maintain that strategy, tolerance goes up and you start to black out more. Conversely, if you try to cut back or sober up, you're foisted back to square one with the confidence building. It would be like someone who's never been to the gym before asking, "How can I deadlift 300 lb.?" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/16 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Male virginity; a red flag, female pre-selection, or both?Generally I've never heard a woman say 'oh he's a virgin. That's just fine with me. I don't find that weird at all'. I think part of that might be that nice girls don't talk about taking the virginity of their partners to male friends - that'd be like a girl telling you her partner's dick size. It's also why we only hear about men with smaller-than-average dicks or fewer-than-average partners in negative contexts; plenty of women enter into loving relationships with these men; however, women sel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/16 05:00 PM |
| 7 | when it comes to personality are men's tastes in women more varied than women's tastes in men?Alternate hypothesis: women are (by-and-large, stereotypically speaking) more successful at altering their behavior to match their partner's preferences, regardless of their underlying personality. Since guys are (by-and-large, stereotypically speaking) more authentic and inflexible in their behavior, they lack the mass appeal. The RP teaches men to do what women have (by-and-large, steriotypically speaking) already learned to do: alter their behavior to match their partner's preferences, rather… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/16 04:21 PM |
| 5 | when it comes to personality are men's tastes in women more varied than women's tastes in men?But the way you've framed this question is only discussing dominance and submission which is one single element of personality. I think if you take all factors into account, there is reasonable variation in what both men and women find attractive in personalities. Exactly this. The OP seems to focus a lot on one dimension of personality - or, rather, a cluster of dimensions. The alpha/beta distinction doesn't seem perfectly encapsulated by any one personality trait; at least, not in any widely-a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/16 03:56 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: Which of these would you view as the worst in men?Yeah. I think there are plenty of people all over the world who willingly choose to do sex work; however, there are factors that can make it easier or harder to suss out who's there willingly and who isn't. For example, Germany is a first-world country with legal prostitution - I'm pretty confident in my ability to purchase consensual sex there (should I ever need to buy a friend a blowjob). Cambodia, on the other hand, would be tricky; I don't know shit about the culture, the laws, or the preva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/16 04:58 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Which of these would you view as the worst in men?I'm confused. You think it's weird to hope your partner didn't unintentionally participate in somebody else's sexual exploitation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/16 03:08 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Which of these would you view as the worst in men?Number two is actually my ex exactly: 24 when we met, had never had sex with a non-pro, but had had one relationship before me. We spent six great years together and parted amicably. I like the third guy the best because he sounds adventurous, like maybe he traveled to Asia. At the same time, I'd worry about the girl who sucked his dick. Did she speak English? Did she negotiate her own price? Did she look physically healthy? It's hard to guarantee that, when you buy sex in a foreign establishmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 10:53 PM |
| 1 | "Playing the victim"Ah, okay, so one's something you're born with (although you might opt to medically alter your external sex characteristics to match your internal gender identity) and one's a choice you make (although, if you're poor, you might be born with a higher probability of accruing debt). I think people who burn money in protest are seeking to draw attention to the fact that debt is a social construct. It's only once we acknowledge it as such that we can ennact change, or so the logic goes. (Personally, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 09:44 PM |
| 1 | "Playing the victim"I guess what I mean to imply is that, in my (albeit narrow) experience, "rape culture" is typically perpetuated by similarly run-of-the-mill people. It would be comforting to live in a world where "rapist" or "child molester" was stamped clearly across the forehead of everyone who's ever violated, or ever will violate, a sexual boundary. Likewise, I think there'd be a lot less controversy if every sex crime involved physical violence. And I'd personally be relieved if all I had to do was not rap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 09:18 PM |
| 3 | "Playing the victim"Np! thas no dick thas my upvote 4 not ratting me to teh mods | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 01:48 AM |
| 3 | "Playing the victim"Aight BB don panic! If u let go of teh dick mebbe u can get ur fist thru the arm hole | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 01:28 AM |
| 3 | "Playing the victim"I'm often actually surprised by how seldom people play the victim card in their day-to-day life, given the benefits you just listed. I have a theory about what makes people resistant to identifying as victims: The "just world" hypothesis: admitting you've been harmed through no fault of your own entails acknowledging that the world can be unsafe and chaotic Affective avoidance: once you accept you've been victimized, it opens emotional floodgates, leading to feelings or fear, grief, and anger Sy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 01:19 AM |
| 5 | How well would this man do on the market?I'd hit it but I wouldn't put a ring on it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 01:00 AM |
| 2 | "Playing the victim"The were predominantly statutory crimes, with post-pubescent teenagers sexually assaulting kids between the ages of 6 and 11. Why do you ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 12:08 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Due to Occam's razor, it is better for women to ignore feminist ideas while in a romantic relationship.I think /u/sleeping_willow_ got it right by that definition. A man in a relationship with a woman does not help her with housework Explanation one broken down by causal links: Society expects women to do housework -> man internalizes said expectation -> man embraces said expectation in the face of competing values/objectives because it's in his own self-interest to do so -> man acts to preserve said expectation by intentionally avoiding housework Explanation two and three, broken down by causal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 12:02 AM |
| 2 | "Playing the victim"Rape, for example, shouldnt be a men vs women thing. At least in the west, It should be a "vast majority of sane, well intentioned men and women vs a smattering of predators and enablers" thing. Right! I like what you're saying a lot, even though I sort of disagree. First of all, your reference to "enablers" is great, especially in that it points to scenarios in which women can be complicit in someone else's sexual assault even if they don't actively participate. Along the same lines, I like tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/16 11:00 PM |
| 2 | "Playing the victim"Okay. What part of the analogy confuses you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/16 10:38 PM |
| 3 | "Playing the victim"It is only disrespect when they don't leave me alone IMO. Strongly seconded! I wish my friend thought the same way as us - I think he'd be a lot happier if he could reframe gay male attention as a mostly positive thing. But then, to be fair, he was sexually molested as a kid. I think sexual boundary violations can chafe people like blisters; the more unwanted sexual attention you get, the harder it becomes to tolerate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/16 10:36 PM |
| 5 | "Playing the victim"I second /u/sleeping_willow_'s sentiments regarding female resilience in the face of street harassment; describing women as passive recipients of male attention just strips us of autonomy. With that said, /u/Lonny_zone, are you absolutely sure you're not bringing a straw (wo)man to the table? When I talk to other women about street harassment, I get the sense that our primary concern is around the emotional impact, not the physical risk. Personally, I don't worry much about being physically harm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/16 10:09 PM |
| 2 | "Playing the victim"A Marxist might argue "debt" is a social construct. But I think they'd argue that's all the more reason to delineate between those who are in debt and those who are debt free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/16 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?Right! Completely agreed. I guess what I mean to say is that there have been times in my life when I've been closer to the "damsel" stereotype (unhappily waiting around for someone to help me out with my feels) and then there have been times when I've been further away from it (independently and cheerfully making questionable life decisions, mostly ignoring other people). Men (and, to a lesser degree, women) have tended to gravitate towards me when I'm less of a damsel and more of an asshole. Or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/16 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?Yeah, I'm curious who dow voted my original comment (RP/BP?) I could see both sides getting upset about it. I mean, I'm basically suggesting you ease a female into physical intimacy, like how a predator grooms a child. But then, on the other hand, that's also how you make friends using graduated self-disclosures: nobody at the first hiking club meet-up needs to know why you ended up in the foster care system. Intimacy is like money - don't just sit on it but don't spend it all at once either. As… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/16 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?Do men really find damseling sexy though? I get more male attention when I'm going through a crazy phase of life than I do while going through a neurotic phase of life - I might dress the same and hang out in the same milieu but guys seem to prefer "drunk and disorderly" over "white-knuckling it, looking for a cuddle buddy." And, really, I don't blame them. White Knights seek adventure. If we just wanted warm feels, we'd all buy rabbits instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/16 10:34 PM |
| 2 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?Right! This is a good point. Both genders like similar stuff but give different advice when asked what they're looking for. Men focus in on qualifiers (what has to be there to catch attention) and women focus in on the qualifications (what has to be there in order to hold attention once attention has been caught.) This makes sense. If I was starving and someone asked what I wanted to eat, I'd describe something sweet and visually appealing (cookies!) If I had my share of food and someone asked t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/16 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?Alright, true enough. I can agree there. Is that any different for men though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/16 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?At risk of being dismissed as a snowflake, I 66.7% disagree with this. "Feminin" - okay, fine, I think that's true: most women find feminin a turn-off. But our desire to cure emotional instability with our magical vaginas is a defining feature of romantic idealism. It's the "white knight" impulse. It transcends gender - it just typically manifests a little different for us females. We seek to heal emotionally - that's why we seek out the mysterious, emotionally damaged types. And as for being pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/16 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?Are they really opposite? I've never quite understood this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/16 04:11 AM |
| 6 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?Being sexually open/forward is only outside of his comfort zone because a lot of the mainstream messages and advice for men are really bad and discourage men from being open about their sexual/romantic desire. He didn't decide to grow up with those messages. He had the bad luck to grow up with them. Agreed. I worry people sometimes overlook the fact that sexual assertiveness is a double-edged sword for men as well as women. I think we get too caught up worrying about the Madonna-whore problem. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/16 04:09 AM |
| 0 | Why do ForeverAlone men fail with women: bad luck or lack of effort?I'm curious how you feel about finding non-sexual ways to touch women on the first date. Have you tried it and, if so, how did it work for you? My friend had a lot of trouble with OkC at first. He'd get all the way to the end of the date without touching the girl, then get gently but firmly friend-zoned in follow-up meetings. I don't think the surplus of platonic female drinking buddies irritated him (he likes people in general); but he was seeking sex specifically at that time. The "physical es… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/16 03:46 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most incels are not destined to be doomed, they fall into a ditch early in life.My ex lost it to a sex worker too; apparently it's more common in Europe. I'd sort of been hoping to take his V-card myself but, looking back, I liked that he was a risk-taker. I think risk-takers are more likely to see pros. Anyway, I agree with your post wholeheartedly. Looks and personality traits do have an impact but, overall, the best predictor of getting laid is having gotten laid already. My LTRs have always been with late bloomers. The thing they all had in common was difficulties initi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/16 02:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: People believe what they want to believe.I think toxic masculinity is more a male concern. I posted about this here. I mean, as you pointed out, women benefit from toxic masculinity sometimes in that the traits that it promotes can be a turn-on for us. The problem is that these standards can be self-defeating. Like, for example, if you decide you're not allowed to feel social anxiety (because social anxiety is for pussies), you'll try to squash it and feel ashamed when it just pops up again. You might slap a superficial bandaid on it (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/16 12:59 AM |
| 1 | CMV: People believe what they want to believe.Stoicism isn't toxic at all. It's the expectation that we remain inflexibly stoic that fucks us up. (I say 'us' because some females struggle with this is well.) The value placed on stoicism is especially toxic when we decide that our internal emotional experience - not just our outward behaviors but also what we think and feel - should be held to the same standard. Like, we might decide feeling sad after a break up is a sign of weakness. But sadness passes naturally unless you fight against it.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/16 12:26 AM |
| 1 | RP men: what do you have to offer?Ah, okay. Haven't even brought up forced breath play or dry anal yet. I guess he said both in different posts. Anyway, I upvoted his comment about safe sex being great sex. I get nerdy about BDSM safety. It's a quirk left over from when I used to help organize parties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/16 10:56 PM |
| 2 | RP men: what do you have to offer?You said "breath play", not light choking. I won't deny it's hot, it's also just really easy to overdo it. And the legal system isn't known for its sympathy toward kinky people - you really want to keep your bottoms breathing. Edit: he said, not you said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/16 10:44 PM |
| 2 | RP men: what do you have to offer?Nah, now I'm just getting a weird maternal pull. Sort of like I want to say, "Careful with that breath play!" and, "Be sure you and your playmates get tested regular!" My friends back in undergrad were all kinky - I miss that comradery, swapping stories, trying to one-up each other. I think you must have crossed a line for me mentally by talking about sex in second person singular, like you were thinking about /u/TheChemist158 specifically. Or maybe it was the idea of gorging on ice cream. Brain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/16 10:31 PM |
| 1 | RP men: what do you have to offer?Damn, I didn't think it was possible to skeeve me out. I mean, most shit either makes me laugh or turns me on a little. Thanks to /u/prodigy2throw for getting me to wrinkle up my nose, like those old vids of people watching 2 girls 1 cup. TIL the internet has not yet numbed me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/16 09:35 PM |
| 1 | How much do our genders dictate who we are? How much SHOULD our genders dictate who we are?Good question. As a female, I'm grateful to my parents for giving me space enough to explore and make mistakes. At the same time, I'd want my daughter to appreciate the increased probability of sexual assault; if she took risks, I'd want them to be informed risks. I wish people were a little more egalitarian, educating their boys more about sexual safety and their girls more about how to respect sexual boundaries. There are some important lessons that we tend to bestow on kids dependent on their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/16 02:52 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The philosophy of "she's not yours it's just your turn" teaches men not to be jealous, controlling or needy but to set healthy boundaries of acceptable behaviorI like /u/Vampiresquidina's reference to the "cock carousel." And I second /u/sen--sen's concern that this sort of rhetoric might decrease emotional investment. But I'm also a big fan of the saying, "it's not the destination, it's the journey," especially where emotional relationships are concerned. "She's not yours, it's just your turn," seems to echo those sentiments. Relationships aren't about possessing someone, they're about mutual growth and enjoyment. An break-up does not imply a "failed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/16 09:26 PM |
| 1 | How much do our genders dictate who we are? How much SHOULD our genders dictate who we are?Interesting question! I got stuck on the word "should" though - it means too many different things in different contexts. For example, sometimes it refers to the speaker's preferences (like when someone says, "you should stop banging my sister.") And, at other times, it refers to the speaker's perception of his listeners' preferences or, more generally, of societal expectations (like when someone says, "I should stop banging my sister"); in such cases, the speaker is often implying that they'd p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/16 09:08 AM |
| 4 | Is nerdiness or being a nerd a sexual turn off for women?As an n of 1, I'm not sure how helpful I can be in answering this question. But I do notice a lot of replies from other females echoing my sentiments: intelligence is attractive. Personally, my weak spots are mathematics, then physics, and then, to a lesser degree, programming. I don't get physically aroused thinking about smart men but I am more primed to become physically aroused and emotionally invested when I believe a guy to be smart. But if you're asking about women in aggregate, you'll ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/16 06:00 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Is there any porn movie or video you actually found disgusting or degrading to women? Why?Sexual preferences arnt subjective. I like your argument that attractiveness has an evolutionary basis; however, if attractiveness were solely objective, internet porn would be a hell of a lot duller. You might be able to use evolutionary theory to predict mass trends but try using it to explain furries, amputee porn, and balloon fetishists. It also doesn't account for all the guys and girls, myself included, who go limp or dry up when they hear the word "nurturer." So, she mightn't be generical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/16 05:21 AM |
| 6 | Q4RP: Is there any porn movie or video you actually found disgusting or degrading to women? Why?It's comments like yours that remind me not to base my arguments on my own subjective sexual preferences. Like, I tend to assume everyone likes some variant of what me and my friends like and that people who don't are just pretending not to due to societal pressure. And then I read a comment like yours and think, damn, sex is bizarre; this guy fetishizes "mothers and caregivers." I guess I need to keep an open mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/16 04:24 AM |
| 5 | Q4RP: Is there any porn movie or video you actually found disgusting or degrading to women? Why?Seconded. I would make a distinction between sex work and janitorial work though. Once upon a time, I compared it to mining because it's a physically taxing, somewhat dangerous, blue-collar job. But I've never heard of someone getting dumped or disowned for becoming a coal miner. So, yeah, the phrase "selling their bodies" can hint at a lot of bullshit assumptions about female fragility and lack of autonomy. It is a weird job though, in terms of psychological impact. The sex workers I've know ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/16 01:26 AM |
| 5 | The real difference between red and blue, and the perfect demonstration of the redpill's blind spots.I can testify that, in my experience, sexually dominant women are rarer than sexually dominant men. However, words like "dominant" are shorthand applied to individuals to describe their behavior in aggregate. Flirtation is about playfulness, which involves trying out new roles, if only for a split second. I straight-as-nails jock might fake emotional vulnerability, playing offended and then laughing to draw a woman out. And a nerdy female virgin might do that thing with her upper lip to demonstr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/16 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Could you ever LTR the opposite pill?Right! I like girls as well as guys so, again, the alcohol thing makes a lot of sense to me. I had a very hard time flirting with girls while sober, let alone making the first move. One thing that depresses me about the RP is n-count. (Do you guys count lesbianism? How high is high?) In any case, I suspect I have a high n. I also know my mom's n is significantly higher than my dad's; he was pretty innocent before she came along. And my dad's my role model to this day, even though my n-count has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/16 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Could you ever LTR the opposite pill?I've never heard the RP preference for a low n-count explained in a way that I could relate to before. Thank you. It makes me wonder whether, once a RP guy gets a few satisfying sexual relationships under his belt, he might become more comfortable dating high-n females. Not to imply everyone needs to date high-n females, but it might be nice to have the option open in case an otherwise good romantic match presents itself. I laughed that you said you could relate, then mentioned getting drunk to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/16 10:32 PM |
| 4 | Could you ever LTR the opposite pill?Nah, we met through online dating. His first message was some weird variant of the Monty Hall - something about the guy behind door number three. In irl, we bonded over computer programming. Then I shyly confessed my kinks and he just sort of exhaled "yesss." I had no idea what the PPD was until a few weeks ago. Then I remembered my ex mentioning "the Red Pill" and how he sort of got off on being the "beta." Also, he was ripped for a programmer - in retrospect, he must have taken some TRP advice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/16 04:53 AM |
| 9 | Could you ever LTR the opposite pill?I fell in love with a TRP lurker. He was physically fit, intellectually gifted, and emotionally damaged. And, to top it off, he was sexually submissive which I found extremely hot, especially in combination with the TRP rhetoric - sort of like how someone else might fetishize the idea of a nun who secretly loves anal. Dominating him just felt "wrong" in the right ways. In any case, the romance was short-lived. We both started saying "I love you" stupidly early on, against my best judgement, even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/16 04:22 AM |
| 2 | 70% of the time "Nice Guys TM" are being used and strung along. The name calling and shaming is just a tactic to shift blame.Thanks for the props! It took some time to decide how I wanted to handle unreciprocated sexual attraction. I don't think many women intend to manipulate male friends (guys whom we like, whose company we enjoy) with false promises of sex. We just want badly to believe that the guys we care about, whose opinions we respect, are satisfied with our friendship as it stands. Most often, we delude ourselves as well as, hence the communication break-down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/16 04:06 AM |
| 11 | 70% of the time "Nice Guys TM" are being used and strung along. The name calling and shaming is just a tactic to shift blame.Female here. We're not always naive about it. I have a few guy friends who'd like to fuck me. I know because we talk about it. I've gotten less oblivious and more responsible over time, telling guys straight-up that it's not on the table. I also try to reciprocate whatever else they've got to offer: split checks, return favors, let them talk, ask about their feelings, give a shit, etc. These friendships do still sometimes go south. I value friendship but I also value space. I think people demand… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/16 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Is gender politics promoting that we diffuse responsibility for our actions and choices?Aw, thanks man! Your response gives me warm feels. I like your distinction between victimhood and the victim mentality. I've know people on both sides of the debate who might be described as taking on the victim mentality. In my (albeit limited) experience, these are people who have been more subtly and pervasively emotionally invalidated, oftentimes in part due to their own emotional instability and/or lack of empathy. Elliot Rodger would be an extreme example of this, as evidenced by his manif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/16 11:54 AM |
| 1 | Can masculinity or femininity ever be redefined?The concepts of masculinity and feminity are being redefined constantly on a small scale. Women are now percieved as more romanticly inclined, whereas men are perceived as more sexually driven. I believe there have been historical periods where the reverse was true (can anyone with a background in history or Western literature either confirm or deny this?) There are also modern eras in which androgyny has been viewed as especially sexy (the 1980s, for example.) Within contemporary culture, gende… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/16 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Is gender politics promoting that we diffuse responsibility for our actions and choices?I love this question! It summarizes a lot of threads that I've run across on subreddits related to gender politics. I can't do the OP's full comment justice so I'll just focus in on victimhood. Victimhood can lead to an exhausting cycle of unmet emotional demands and perceived invalidations. The more I say "the world owes me an apology," the more the world responds with "fuck yourself," which then increases my desire for validation (or, in some cases, revenge). But victimhood also has a positive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/16 11:12 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on the 'cool girl' quote from Gone Girl?You know, I'd like to keep this conversation going. I'm also leery of making self-disclosures on the Purple Pill subreddit - it seems like it would be way too easy for me to get my ass into a flame war here. If we go shot-for-shot with the disclosures, that'd feel more comfortable. I'll go first: my dad was my role model growing up. He's also one of my best friends. His side of the family has some interesting drama and it's left its impact on him - he has trouble advocating for himself, oftentim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/16 09:05 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on the 'cool girl' quote from Gone Girl?Thanks for your response. I think that, if I was subconsciously trying to score alphas, I wouldn't have tended toward dive bars - not to say middle-aged blue collar guys can't be alphas, but I preferred older male drinking buddies because they tended to pay for drinks without becoming angry when I'd turn them down sexually. I got very good at giving a forewarning that I was attached - not that it counted for much, but it eased my conscience. It's a huge ego boost to feel as if your sheer willing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/16 06:01 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on the 'cool girl' quote from Gone Girl?Ex-cool-girl here. Thank you for that post. I've been meaning to see Gone Girl. Now I know it's an absolute must. In undergrad, I fit a lot of the cool-girl stereotypes mentioned in the above quote (cheap beer swilling, filthy and irreverent, skinny but enamored with giant steaks and hamburgers, bisexual, always down for a threesome.) I still look/dress the same, and I still love telling dirty jokes, but the rest of that went out the window when I stopped drinking. I can attest: male attention i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/16 10:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4women: would you date a guy who doesn't have a driving license?I don't have to imagine: I was dating a guy who didn't have a driver's license while I was in my mid-twenties. We broke up after six years because work took us to opposite Coasts. Now we're both with other people but we stay in touch. Is it trickier in non-urban areas? I've always been a city dweller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/16 09:25 AM |
| 4 | Discussion: Are women attempting to legislate away the consequences of pursuing/fucking bad boys?My wife never lets me go to Vegas with my friends or brother for fear I'm going to cheat on her. Your examples have me worried about your emotional wellbeing. Did you mean to type "soon-to-be-ex-wife"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/16 03:55 AM |
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