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Yes, PLEASE stop with the "feminazis." It was a term coined by Rush Fucking Limbaugh of all people.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 07:43 AM
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Well, cognitively, men are still "default" humans. If you say "violence against humans is bad," people imagine male victims, and the speaker sounds like a pacifist weirdo, since most people are able to imagine circumstances in which they'd consider some kind of violence to be warranted. On the other hand, people in general actually feel empathy for women. Women are considered feeling humans with intrinsic value, whose pleasure and suffering are worthy of consideration merely because they are hum…
/r/MensRights18/02/13 01:42 AM
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Guys, back up. This is from CWA - Concerned Women for America. It's a right-wing, pro-life conservative Christian front group. It's insane, but not because of feminism. These people are as far from feminism as you can get. They're just trying to use crude women's issues soundbites to discredit the sitting Democratic president, nothing more, nothing less.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 09:21 AM
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Ugh, so they're justifying the "gay panic" because it's similar to something women complain about?
/r/MensRights25/01/13 06:39 PM
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I believe that gay men are crucial to the MRM and that homophobia against gay men is the purest form of anti-male bigotry. Under the traditional male gender role, one established for many centuries and only critically examined in superficial ways by feminism, men have been stigmatized and marginalized when they attempt to shirk their socially-obligated role as a protector and provider for women and children. Feminism largely attempts to expand the ways in which men are expected to sacrifice for …
/r/MensRights21/01/13 08:19 AM
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Yes, because this fits with the feminist narrative that homophobia is really just misogyny because gay men are like women. They will be loathe to admit that gay men can be every bit as masculine as any straight man.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 07:53 AM
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Scuffing your feet as you walk is pretty easy and natural, makes it obvious you're not "sneaking up." Saying something like "passing by" is also quite normal. It's all situational, but these are little courtesies you can do for someone in a darkened transitional zone where there is a real risk of crime. A lot of people do this naturally without thinking about it.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 07:08 AM
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Frankly, this is a disturbing way to behave at night, so I wouldn't suggest identifying yourself with the creep. It's fairly common knowledge that you should try to be conspicuously noisy and pass someone quickly and at a distance. Just say it's gender neutral, because it is. Being overtaken quietly in the dark is potentially unsettling if you have reason to fear an attack. Men have reason to be on guard for assault and robbery as they are the primary victims. According to her phrasing, we're su…
/r/MensRights20/01/13 04:39 AM
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That's fair, but it's also implicated in other forms of cancer, particularly among men who have sex with men, as well as good ol' genital/anal warts, which also fall firmly in the same "who gives a shit?" social category.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 02:56 PM
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It's insidious. I'd call it a "compassion gap" and a "healthcare gap." Women's health provokes strong emotions of protectiveness and society rallies to address it. (Although not always in positive ways -- see anti-abortion types and the people that were anti-Gardicil because it would turn girls into sluts). Male-specific health issues are considered disgusting and made the subject of jokes. The 40-year old man having to endure the "humiliating" experience of getting a finger poked up his butt. Y…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 02:34 AM
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Society doesn't side with the partner who doesn't want sex. People side with the female partner in the relationship in all but the most egregious cases. Stereotypically, the woman in a heterosexual relationship is the one who wants less sex, so this may be where you have drawn the connection. However, if a man turns down his partner for sex, even rarely, even once, society at large does not condone that at all. You are being insensitive to her needs, less than a man, and everyone will understand…
/r/MensRights17/01/13 01:26 AM
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Why? People lie about serious fuckups all the time. It's probably most people's first instinct. Most people, men and women, think about how to save their own ass long before taking into account some abstract notions of honesty and morality.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 01:07 AM
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He will know what a bad man and woman is like because of your mother and her romantic choices. This isn't always how it works. Kids who grew up in this kind of home sometimes seek out partners with the same dysfunction that their parents had, looking for a "corrective emotional experience," i.e. if they can "fix" this person and get them to love them the way they want, it's like retroactively fixing the broken parent and getting the love you always wanted from them. Of course it never works. I d…
/r/MensRights16/01/13 07:05 AM
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I believe that's what the saying "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight" is for.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 06:55 AM
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(And IIRC I believe it was implied that a huge number or even most men literally fuck corpses as well. Yeah, it's RFH, what do you expect?)
/r/MensRights16/01/13 06:19 AM
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No, they meant necrophiliac. Not as in "all men literally fuck corpses" but as in "all men literally love death." (Not an exaggeration, you can read the Agent Orange screenshots if you really want.) Presumably carnivorous has some other super special radfem meaning as well.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 06:17 AM
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Where are these desperate dudes that keep hitting on women after being shut down? I keep hearing about them but never see them. Hmmm... Often they're with their girlfriends. Because that shit frequently works.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 07:13 PM
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OMG You wouldn't understand because MRAs are never the subject of vitriolic blog posts. /s
/r/MensRights15/01/13 04:22 AM
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The vast majority of mainstream culture is drivel. Most people live their lives wallowing in drivel. If you don't analyze drivel, you will no idea how people are forming their attitudes.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 03:23 AM
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I suggest doing a twitter search on "I friendzoned him" or "he's in the friendzone" to see how much joy some gals get out of this. I brought this up on Asexual Jenni's blog post about the subject (Remember the "Friendzoned so hard he ended up in the news" thing?), and quite literally one of the first search results was this gem: "I love how as soon as I say "I friendzoned him" all my friend automatically know who I'm taking about." Just think about all the things that are wrong and malicious abo…
/r/MensRights15/01/13 03:21 AM
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It's just not just hypothetical or speculative either. This sort of organization has been recorded in some indigenous cultures in the modern era. There are cultures in which the mother's brothers fill what would be considered the "father's" role. It actually doesn't sound like a half-bad system. You know your sister's kids share your genes (25% on average instead of 50%, but it's better than nothing), and you can still impregnate other women to have true biological children, but you wouldn't fee…
/r/MensRights14/01/13 10:53 AM
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Who cares? Is he planning on having more kids? Is he on the advisory board for a hospital? Will changing his mind accomplish anything in the world except for there being a different idea in his brain? If not, I'd say your effort is better spent elsewhere. It's not necessary to convince everyone to agree with you on everything. (I don't mean that to sound snarky, it's a very common inclination to want to correct someone who is wrong, even if it changes nothing, but it can be a counterproductive w…
/r/MensRights14/01/13 05:44 AM
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Confusing a sexual fetish with reality is a HUGE red flag. Run before she ruins your life, because she will. Unfortunately, there are a shitton of self-hating men more than willing to play along.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 02:45 AM
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True, certainly partly a function of the information stream.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 12:01 AM
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Gay men in prison can only be victims of other gay men in prison. Okay, got it, you're a troll.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:00 PM
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Also, I want to point out one of my favorite parts of this article. It was almost shocking to see, it was such a breath of fresh air. They took a quote from a man about his experiences with women and just believed and respected it. Just like that. No twisting it into a feminist mold, no denying his experiences, no "What about teh wimminz?" They just listened. It was... amazing. I've gotten so used to feminist discussion assuming that any man's experience is automatically misogynistic rubbish if …
/r/MensRights13/01/13 09:55 PM
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Wrong again (and btw I didn't downvote you, as boneheaded as your post way). There is so much wrong with your post I don't even know where to start. How about prison rape? Never heard the phrase "jailhouse gay"? Unsurprisingly, gay men in prison are almost always the victims of rape, not the perpetrators. Also, many gay men over history have married women and fathered children, again blowing holes in your theory that you can only get hard with your preferred sex. This is the same argument used t…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 09:49 PM
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Everything I read about the UK tells me it's an absolutely abysmal place to be as far as the relationship between men and women. I'm not even just saying it's a misandrist society, it also seems horribly misogynist as well. These "lad mags" -- this is far from the first time I've heard some horrendous pro-rape "joke" from one of those rags -- are disgusting, and just encourage UK society to further criminalize men, and men themselves to act in criminal ways. Every bit of evidence points to an ep…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 09:42 PM
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Conflating male sexual abusers of children with men of normal adult sexuality is terribly misandrist. There's no particular reason to think the kids that perpetrated this assault were gay. In fact, violent penetration with foreign objects is a classic way that straight gaybashers victimize gay men. A man sexually abusing a young boy no more reflects on gay men than a man sexually abusing a young girl reflects on straight men. Anyone on this sub should know better, unless they are one of the "whi…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 09:24 PM
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Male circumcision is just "about archaic religious practices," eh? The Hebrew Bible includes directives to circumcise both boys and girls. Anyone want to guess why girl's circumcision died off and boys' is still alive and well? (Maybe because PATRIARCHY thinks PENISES are INVULNERABLE /s) Also, I guess FGM is no longer relevant to feminists, since that too is a product of archaic religious practices, and girls aren't mutilated outside of those cultures. Furthermore, abortion rights is no longer …
/r/MensRights13/01/13 09:02 PM
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Well, you see, the assumption is that men deserve nothing, so if men get anything at all, that is an example of their privilege.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:46 PM
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Actually, there are a fuckton of women kept as slaves in Dubai--primarily domestic servants who are also treated worse than dirt. I'm not trying to invite some pissing match about who has it worse, I'm just sayin'. Dubai is one of the most bizarrely fucked up places on Earth.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:31 AM
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I agree this isn't really MRA-related, but I can never resist the temptation to make fun of stupidity: Think about it: Jared Fogle shot to fame after losing 245 pounds in one year by eating only Subway products. And Morgan Spurlock, whom Ms. Existence calls "Mr. McDonalds" in her blog, changed the way the world views fast food with his documentary "Supersize Me." But where, Beautiful Existence laments, "are all the women challenging themselves in the world? Where are the effects being shown on a…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 06:54 AM
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As an MRA, I'm kind of offended you called it misandry, because it sounds like you think rapists=men. Even if all rapists were men, this still wouldn't be misandry, because rapists are horrible people and it's advocating jokes making fun of killing rapists (i.e. horrible people), not all men.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 06:51 AM
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Note that payroll taxes add an extra wrinkle. I don't know enough about the requirements for small business as far as payroll taxes, so I can't really comment. However, if she's hoping to draw Social Security benefits, paying payroll taxes is a good idea, and women tend to get a lot more out of Social Security due to longer lifespans.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 06:24 AM
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Depends. She will pay income tax on the income, but her salary also represents a business expense and can be deducted on the business end. If the business is quite profitable, it's very likely that the business income will be taxed at a higher rate then her salary, meaning it lowers the total amount paid in taxes. This is part of why many small business owners actually pay themselves a salary for the functions they perform in the business. On the other hand, if the business is losing money, then…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 06:20 AM
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This bit was hilariously lacking in reflection: Don’t touch...You’re not eight, with the need to run your fingers over everything, nor do you lack voluntary control of your muscles. Keep your hands, arms, legs and everything else to yourself. This is not actually difficult. Here’s an idea: That person you want to touch? Put them in charge of the whole touch experience. That is, let them initiate any physical contact and let them set the pace of that contact when or if they do — and accept that t…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 05:41 AM
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You may not like the terminology or style of this article, but the criticism has merit. This kind of "helping" is often extremely paternalistic, comes with big strings attached, and frequently ends up doing harm. See this speech for a more detailed critique of dogooderism. Hell, many of the problems in Africa today can be attributed to colonialism and the many things done in African nations ostensibly for the good of the "savages," since obvious white Europeans knew best. Certainly as a species …
/r/MensRights12/01/13 11:47 AM
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Apart from the sensationalist overapplication of the word "violence," I thought this was a pretty reasonable article. From your title, I was expecting a feminist piece on how things like the scientific method are tools of patriarchal oppression. Who knows, maybe she believes that, but the kind of "knowledge production" she's criticizing is bullshit knowledge, so I can't convince myself to be that worked up over it. Her criticisms of first world white feminists and their know-it-all writings on t…
/r/MensRights12/01/13 11:25 AM
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What threat would be needed for people to prefer to lock up innocent people than the reverse? Rape? It's not stated explicitly, but this is the implication of graphics and arguments like this.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 11:57 PM
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Poisoning is an archetypically female form of violence which takes advantage of the trust we are conditioned to place in women, who are held under both traditional stereotypes and feminist stereotypes to be nurturing and nonviolent.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 11:32 PM
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What does language change have to do with the cutting of meat from carcasses for consumption?
/r/MensRights11/01/13 09:34 AM
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Yeah, if you're looking for radfem crazy, factcheckme is pretty much the gold mine (coal mine?) for that.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 08:16 AM
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Where are they finding these honest mechanics? Unless you actually know them personally, most mechanics are thieves, and men's money is just as good as women's. (Disclaimer: NAMALT)
/r/MensRights10/01/13 10:46 PM
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Oh, and here's my real advice. Don't blame women, or even feminism. Since feminism is predicated on a "men vs. women" premise, where men are the villains oppressing women, feminists tend to assume that a movement addressing men's issues must be just the opposite, and that we think women are the villains oppressing men. This is a very pervasive bit of propaganda about the MRM lately--that we think we are the "true victims," and blame women for everything.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 11:55 AM
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Yes, yes they will (hate you). Be prepared to have any issues you bring up nonchalantly trivialized and reframed in feminist terms. I think one of the strongest cases among the issues we deal with in MRM is the hazardous jobs and disposability issue (aka the "glass cellar"--I think this term is very effective). If you focus on this, expect a counterpoint of "Well that's just because Patriarchy. Men are seen as stronger and tougher, so that's why they get all the insanely hazardous jobs." Of cour…
/r/MensRights10/01/13 11:50 AM
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So your masterpiece of reasoning is "Whatever times 3," where 3 is a number you just made up. Nice going, champ.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 11:00 AM
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I believe it.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 08:11 AM
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Dude, why the fuck are you so hung up on the upvotes? Do they matter, or don't they? Make up your goddamn mind. First they didn't have enough upvotes for you to bother looking at, now they don't have enough downvotes for you to bother looking at. Are you high?
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:25 PM
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So if you understand that, what is the purpose of this little hurfdurf? You are the one that used upvotes as the criteria to choose the sample you'd look at.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:23 PM
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Oh my goodness, you're basing this on top posts. You have to understand what's flawed about that, right?
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:22 PM
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That's not how evidence works. There's no such thing as evidence that some event did not occur. There is only a lack of evidence that it did.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:10 PM
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he still gave her a reason commit murder Wait wait wait, what? So now murder victims are asking for it by definition, because they "gave someone a reason to commit murder"? You understand that murders can actually be unjust, right?
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:06 PM
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Well let's not forget that a lot of women did work really hard on the homefront of the war effort. However, it's not in the least bit surprising that the photogenic, lily-white, probably quite affluent woman who made it onto the poster couldn't hack it. Those uncommon women who actually do hard manual labor don't usually look like models. They look like someone who works for a living, and that doesn't make a good recruitment poster.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:02 PM
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This is my experience too, as a dude who is all man but not your average macho d-bag. There's a big difference between the two reactions. Yeah, maybe poking fun over this kind of thing shouldn't happen either, but it's a lot better than the naked, dehumanizing disgust you get from straight women for daring to deviate even slightly from your prescribed gender norms.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:59 PM
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Some of the loudest "Facebook feminists" are just overprivileged, entitled young women who sees that there's something in it for them. They really don't understand or care about toxic gender roles, because those concepts are useful to them in demeaning others. But if feminism offers a victim complex and an excuse for all the problems in her life, you better believe she will cling to that label like grim death.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:52 PM
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"White" is right in the topic.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:51 PM
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Simmer down Vin Diesel.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 09:34 AM
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FWIW, a great deal of the posters in that thread agree with you. A lot of MRAs are really obsessed with cold, impartial rationality and hard data. Personally I think data and personal experience can coexist, because doing controlled, generalizeable studies about many phenomenon, particularly where it concerns human behavior, is difficult or nigh impossible.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 07:21 AM
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Strong criticism doesn't need middle school language to back it up, and probably does better without it.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 08:14 AM
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Funny, that's the same response I had to this: ‘Women’s experiences as victims, witnesses and offenders are in many respects different to those of men,’ according to the Equal Treatment Bench Book. It's called the "Equal Treatment Bench Book." War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength
/r/MensRights23/12/12 10:35 PM
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Why should tribal courts be any more liable to be "railroaded to stick it to outsiders" than state/federal courts in the U.S. proper? Do you suggest that native peoples being tried in state or federal courts should have a jury that's 50% (or whatever proportion) native so they don't face the same potential unfairness that the poor white guys would be. (Never mind that racism among native tribes is more often anti-black than anti-white, particularly when you look at membership issues, but for wha…
/r/MensRights23/12/12 09:32 AM
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Tough luck, if you are accused of a crime in a sovereign nation, you should expect to be tried by local authorities. If you don't want to face a jury of native people, don't hang around on Indian reservations.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 04:00 AM
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In my presentations, I frequently mention that most rapes are acquaintance rapes...Why do you guys think that rapes like this occur more frequently? Access. Most crimes are crimes of opportunity, and a rapist has easier access to an acquaintance, date, friend, etc. I think this is independent of how you analyze the relative role of power/passion/libido in rape. Do you agree that this happens more often to women than to men? Probably, but it's hard to say because the two sides are not comparable.…
/r/MensRights23/12/12 02:20 AM
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Said by the poster who's coming to troll an MRA forum where issues like male DV victims are actually taken seriously because he/she can't bear to see men have a place to openly speak on a public forum without being corrected by the feminist perspective. Pot, meet kettle. Also, love the new tack taken by SRS types and other anti-men's-rights hate groups, of claiming "MRAs ignore issues like male rape victims and male DV victims." It's really some marvellously brazen projecting consider these are …
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:11 PM
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What does this have to do with men's rights/men's issues?
/r/MensRights16/12/12 07:47 AM
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Oh cool, yet another feminist critique that tears down a caricature version of Men's Rights and criticizes views expressed by only a small minority of MRAs. The content of this screed mostly accurately characterizes my take on Men's Rights, with the exception of the Patriarchy notion (which ignores the role of women throughout history as co-creators of society--all people co-create society, although the elite classes, which have always consisted of both men and women, have special latitude to cr…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 06:30 AM
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"Hey, I think I'll check out r/Mensrights--JESUS CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE TODAY?" At least in the Sim's thread, most people seemed to understand that the gripe was bonkers. Here, the silent voting masses actually seem to agree with this nonsense? You guys seriously think that a bystander, who's already being a Good Samaritan by stopping, calling the authorities, etc. -- i.e., doing everything she could be reasonably and safely expected to do -- is under some obligation to risk their …
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:42 PM
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How come I always see the looniest stuff on r/MR in the mornings? Is it because the people with jobs haven't come home to downvote this crap yet?
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:27 PM
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Actually, that's exactly what you said/implied. :)
/r/MensRights12/12/12 02:39 AM
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Yeah, that is not really a joke or humor, it's just cliche and being a jerk. It's unfunny, which is the biggest crime of all.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 01:26 AM
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Absolutely this! A sincere word of thanks and appreciation can go a long way to show people that their efforts make a difference. It is not easy to support the rights of men, even if you're a woman. There is a lot of social pressure to ignore men.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 01:21 AM
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No, I didn't twist it into you holding any of those beliefs, in fact the first thing I said was that I wasn't sure of your intent in mentioning the issue having the potential to "polarise," which is generally used to talk about "controversial" issues that people disagree about, and the notion that we shouldn't deal with those issues because it will lead to disagreement. (Hence, "polarising.") There's nothing "polarising" about gay rights if straight MRAs support it too.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 11:45 PM
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I may be misinterpreting your meaning, but if by "polarise" you mean creating conflict between MRAs that support gay rights and "MRAs" who are anti-gay, well, good, we should polarise ourselves against the latter assholes. If men who identify with the MRM are threatened by gay men who also want to fight the misandry that oppresses them, we don't need them. Men's rights is about fighting the ways society marginalizes all men. If so-called MRAs have problems with the MRM addressing the special kin…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:49 PM
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Yawn. Is hatred of butch lesbians (or any lesbians, for that matter) misandry? No, it's also misogyny right? You're parroting feminist arguments that assume misogyny is all that exists. Anything can be cast as misogyny or misandry if you're sufficiently determined and willing to coerce the facts. Also, what exactly about being a gay man is "womanly"? Gay men who conform to the stereotype of effeminate behavior may be more visible, simply by virtue of conforming to a stereotype, but that's just c…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:39 PM
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Not that hard to solve. "They" as a generic pronoun has a long and storied history in English. The only people that have a problem with it are pedantic and ill-informed language nags that haven't the first clue about how language actually works.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 09:50 AM
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How is it a fair assumption? It's just a smear that SRS types like to scream about us to delegitimize and downplay our movement and our rights.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 05:59 AM
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Ha, poetic justice. Pay attention to how people treat others that they no longer care for. Sooner or later, that's how they will be treating you.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 10:49 PM
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http://www.reproduction-online.org/content/62/2/513.full.pdf This is a fairly old study which cites a lot of the previous evidence (might be behind a restriction wall since academia is kind of nasty that way, but you should be able to find some good research on google). In the short term you might experience heightened sensation due to the effects of the drug, and if you smoke with moderation and don't experience any ill effects, that's awesome, good for you. Weed is a lot of fun. I had very sim…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 06:12 AM
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You're quite right, on a global scale, human genital mutilation is definitely something affecting both sexes, and in some regions, of course, female genital mutilation is the biggest problem, and that is a women's rights issue. However, in the U.S. context, it is MGM and only MGM that is accepted and supported as something that's okay, and that's why it's a men's right's issue here.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:27 AM
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Yay drugs?
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:06 AM
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The fact that you don't think this is a men's rights issue shows just how far we have to go, that people actually think mutilating male genitals is no big deal and something we ought to just blindly support.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:03 AM
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Don't let it get you down (haha)--I am mutilated too, but there's no point in crying over lost foreskins. Worrying about it is the biggest problem. Do the best you can with what you have, that's the only option. Here are some key tips: Don't get addicted to over-masturbation. Try to keep it down to a few times a week or less, vary the sensation and stimulation you use. During sexual activity, focus on your partner, not your erection. Make sure you are well-hydrated when it comes time to have sex…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:02 AM
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There must be a pro-genital-mutilation sap buzzing around here downvoting everyone. I would suggest that the best response to all of these, except the religious/cultural one (which I have a soft spot for since I think Judaism is a pretty nifty religion apart from the genital mutilation thing) is "Seriously?" I feel like taking these arguments seriously gives them far more credence than they deserve. That said: It's ugly "Seriously?" You have to clean it "So our son will have to learn hygiene, an…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 04:46 AM
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"goal" A lot depends on whether this ever makes it past funding and R&D stages. Let's hope it does.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 11:29 PM
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She wasn't an employee of the construction firm, she was a "college administrator," who has, in all probability, never done a hard day of physical work in her life.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 11:02 PM
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My question is simply this, were there actually women on the construction crew? If there were, great, let's use another sign. If there weren't, this is just factually accurate, not sexist. The complainer was not a construction worker, after all, but an university employee, surely working in a cushy, comfortable office. If women don't want to do hard physical labor, they shouldn't force the rest of the world to pretend that they are.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 11:00 PM
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The idea, I assume, is that "It's complicated" is used when people want to distance themselves from their partner, and in this case, she, as a conventionally attractive woman would be ashamed to be openly associated with a shorter, not conventionally attractive man. If it were simply a happy relationship between different people, they would just say they were in a relationship. Imagine that it were some hunky Abercrombie dude with a fat woman who is ugly by prevailing social standards. The messa…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 10:56 PM
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It's just frantic finger-pointing in all directions. Some of the worst I've ever seen. No surprise that it comes from the UK, which has tremendous hang-ups over gender (to the detriment of both).
/r/MensRights04/12/12 07:25 PM
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Perhaps this is because it is common for men find shame in seeking help in our culture? Bingo! The pat answer given by feminists in discussion is that feminism addresses this issue. In actual feminist activism, they seek to perpetuate and intensify the shaming and eliminate avenues of recourse, as this article so neatly illustrates. It's important to collect examples like this for when feminists try to co-opt men's issues so they can trivialize them and make us invisible.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 07:21 PM
1

TIL the risk of injury in all sports is the same. Ping pong is apparently just as dangerous as tackle football, I guess. False equivalency much?
/r/MensRights03/12/12 07:03 PM
2

The problem with "bromance" is that it's usually used as a slur by bigoted women or self-hating men against men who form friendships with other men as a homophobic shaming tactic. Otherwise I pretty much agree.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 01:18 AM
3

Enemies of male equality are constantly trying to twist and misinterpret our words. Minor things like this won't stop it.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 01:14 AM
1

Some of you are saying this has to be a joke, but in fact it doesn't, it really doesn't have to, I'm afraid. Otherkin are real (in the sense that there are communities of people that actually believe this crap), and it gets a lot crazier than this. There are a lot of elfkin, dragonkin, and even otatukin, who believe they are the reincarnated souls of anime characters (a type of "fictionkin," who believe fictional characters actually exist in alternate dimensions.). I wish I could tell you that a…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 01:12 AM
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I believe there's a great deal of intersection between men's rights and gay men's rights. I don't agree with the stereotype of gay men being less masculine, or less "men." In a way, gay men are the manliest of all men. What could possibly be manlier than loving men? (The mincing, effeminate Will & Grace stereotype only represents a small subset of gay culture--visit a leather bar sometimes and tell me those dudes aren't masculine.) But I don't agree that we need to do it to combat feminist misin…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 12:54 AM
0

"It sucks that they can't get married." You think that's the whole of gay rights issues? Never heard of gay-bashing? You must be a troll.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 12:51 AM
1

Big laugh at the "Forensic Scientist/Crime Scene Investigator" one. She's been watching too much CSI, as evidenced by the fact she thinks those two jobs are anywhere near similar. There is a HUGE glut of college students thinking they're going to be badass investigators like on CSI and work with big fancy high-tech monitors with an "ENHANCE" button, while they make snarky quips back and forth, then go out and berate suspects and find the real culprit by some last minute plot twist driven by thei…
/r/MensRights02/12/12 10:46 PM
1

Also, men have more sweat glands. If anything, men should get some extra latitude. To some degree, we do in the form of being able to go around topless without much social stigma. Of course, if you're not fit and muscular, you'll be getting laughed at by women for going shirtless.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 10:24 PM
1

I took a "Women in Cross-Cultural Perspective" course during early undergrad years. At the time I was quite young and naive and was ready to buy into feminist armchair pseudoscience. At one point, the prof brought up the observation that men have higher mortality rates at all stages of life, from fetal development through infancy and childhood, right up to old age. This was said to be perfectly natural and acceptable (and I think much of this can in fact be attributed to biology). Of course, sin…
/r/MensRights02/12/12 10:19 PM
1

Thank you for your open-mindedness in coming here and trying to understand what we're all about. Like many others here, I'll reiterate that there's no need for you to apologize. For most of us here, the "repressors" are not "women" in the abstract. One drum I beat on a lot is that the genders "men" and "women" are merely categories, not entities. Humans are cognitively prone to confusing these, imagining that categories are entities with existence in the world that can take action. In the social…
/r/MensRights02/12/12 09:29 PM
3

This is called confirmation bias.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 03:59 AM
2

I rest my case.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:20 AM
1

So your argument is that calling women "girls" and men "men" is based on a sexist double-standard, and therefore, it's peachy? Well done. It's stupid all right.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:05 AM
0

Seriously, can you guys stop using the phrase "a girl" as parallel with "a man." It makes you sound like you're in high school.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 01:45 AM
1

You didn't notice all the "likes," which seem to outnumber negative comments? If some argument validates a victim mentality and allows tumblrfems to find a new way to assert their superiority, they will embrace it. There is already exactly zero rigor involved in this kind of discussion, why should they start critically examining things now?
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:44 AM
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All forms of oppression derive from patriarchy, so presumably, that man is more privileged than even the richest, lily white woman.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:32 AM
3

Note that paragraph breaks can make something L a lot less painful to R.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 04:47 PM
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I don't think this is a right/left thing. Social conservatives like to pretend they are combatting things like teen pregnancy and collapsed homes, but then they fight against family planning and contraception. You can't even pretend that conservative politics offers any answer for "reckless pregnancy" except "Don't be whores, whores!" while simultaneously limiting access to birth control and abortion, making it even harder to make responsible choices.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 01:51 PM
2

This whole thing of "men are stronger than women so women can't harm men" is so flawed on its face. I'm going to get a little personal here and mention that I had kind of a rough background. I've been in some fights, in some cases literal "street fights." I'm not proud of it, and in time I learned how to avoid this kind of trouble. However, one huge misconception about interpersonal violence is the idea that physical size and strength is the major factor determining who comes out on top. It's no…
/r/MensRights24/11/12 11:39 AM
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That's brilliant, I didn't even think of that particularly glaring bit of hypocrisy. Women not pursuing men is one of the "men's issues" that feminists like to claim feminism as a solution for, yet individual feminists rarely challenge the paradigm.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 03:24 AM
2

Okay, i dug it up, you're right. Thanks.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 02:25 AM
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It's true, I'm glad I'm not short. The mate selection issue is well-known, but I was shocked that only 2 of 79 women said they would date a shorter man. I hadn't imagined it was that bad. Funnily enough, feminists try to appropriate the mate-height disparity as a woman's issue, claiming it primarily harms tall women because, supposedly, men don't pursue them. If this is even true, it's not hard to see why. It's one of those so-called "women's issues" that is entirely driven by women's own behavi…
/r/MensRights23/11/12 01:20 AM
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So, females feel entitled to special consideration from males? This phenomenon is as old as the hills, and sure, it can be laid at the feet of both genders in the same way that all social conventions and structures are the result of a shared construction of society that both genders participate in. However in concrete, on-the-ground reality, male teachers can hardly shoulder the blame for this one.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 12:54 AM
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If you have to resort to this kind of linguistic gymnastics, that's a clue that the source you are reading is horrendously bad at reporting scientific findings. But that's mainstream journalism for ya!
/r/MensRights23/11/12 12:50 AM
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Note this contradicts the HuffPo's summary which says in part: ...men treat all students the same, regardless of gender. But that's not too surprising. HuffPo takes mainstream science articles (which are already watered down to the point of near uselessness) and attempts to summarize and repackage them for a new audience, which can only introduce noise, especially with the unpaid pseudo-journalists which populate news aggregators like HP.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 12:48 AM
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You are incorrect. Several different variables are included in this study, and you are conflating them. Students' performance is not being compared to each other, which would be foolhardy. Teacher's evaluations are being compared to external evaluator's evaluations. It doesn't matter how hard they try. The variable being assessed in this case is different evaluations of the same work. The HuffPo article is vague on this, so it's not that you didn't read it carefully enough, it's that you failed …
/r/MensRights23/11/12 12:43 AM
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Well a few police departments, which have wised up to the problem with lineups (usually these aren't physical lineups like on TV, but photo lineups), are using a new method which helps alleviate some of these problems. Instead of showing a single sheet with several photos, which tends to lead the witness to go "Uhh, umm, that one, I guess," if they are unsure, they show photos one at a time and ask for a "Yes/No" on that photo only, without telling them how many photos there are, and advising th…
/r/MensRights22/11/12 11:21 PM
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He could try this, but in the current social climate it will be met with patronizing pity at best, and shaming and denigration at worst.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 11:09 PM
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Men automatically consent to all sexual attention/activity, and such attention/activity on the part of any woman is a gift which much be accepted and treasured. /s
/r/MensRights22/11/12 11:07 PM
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Reflecting on it, these situations are highly depressing, because they show how selfish many people in positions of power can be, willing to trade the lives, freedom, and safety of innocent people for a slight boost in their job performance. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
/r/MensRights22/11/12 08:54 PM
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To the above, I should also add the much less innocuous problems like prosecutors intentionally suppressing exculpatory evidence, or the police "losing" such evidence. Prosecutors have a vested interest in getting convictions. It's perceived as part of their "job performance." In places where chief prosecutors are elected, conviction rates are cited as talking points, as if convicting more people is automatically better, when in a sane world, we would try to convict the guilty and exonerate the …
/r/MensRights22/11/12 08:49 PM
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It isn't that the murder allegations are false, per se. A murder was committed, and the witness may believe they are testifying honestly. The problem is, the courts are willing to accept unsound evidence, like lineups, which tend to encourage witnesses to pick someone, anyone, from the lineup. If you have lineups with 5 people, and 1 of them is a suspected perpetrator, even if witnesses are choosing randomly, they will pick out the suspect 20% of the time, even if he's completely innocent. This …
/r/MensRights22/11/12 08:39 PM
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Oh, here we go, black men are automatically guilty. How can we be so cognizant of sentencing disparities affecting men here, and so wildly ignorant of the racist disparities in the so-called "justice" system. You think men in general are criminalized? Black and Latino men are far more severely criminalized. Slavery is still alive and well in the prison system. Google "school prison pipeline." Boys, disproportionately black and Latino, are criminalized from a young age. Even wealthy and accomplis…
/r/MensRights21/11/12 08:03 PM
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Thank you, too. It's open-mindedness and empathy like yours that will make this world a better place.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:45 AM
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Your argument is "women's goals are babies and families." If you think that requires a counterargument, you're almost certainly too dim to understand it.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 01:44 AM
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Oh, I read it. You were deranged the whole way through.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 07:26 PM
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"Rockets"? You're deranged, dude. Just throwing that out there.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 03:53 AM
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Most of these are just pictures of regular dudes with mustaches. Nothing particularly creepy about their appearance or demeanor at all. But whatever, male secondary sex characteristics are GROSS, amirite?
/r/MensRights20/11/12 01:29 AM
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Thank you for sharing this. As a straight man, I 100% support equal rights for gay men, and I believe that gay men's rights are a vital part of men's rights. Gay men are very important in our movement, and I always welcome your perspectives on life in a feminist society, and how that affects you. Personally, I have believed that gay men are marginalized in part because they do not fulfill the expectation of a man as providing their life and resources for the good of a woman. Men who love men are…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 06:00 PM
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Also, "a limit of statutations"? LLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL
/r/MensRights17/11/12 11:20 PM
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Hopefully word gets around the yard quick that they've got a pig in the pen. Then there might accidentally be a scrap of justice fitting the crime.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 10:45 PM
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I find it a little troublesome, as someone who is committed to equal rights and dignity for men, that "A manifesto for male sexual rights" is focused entirely on erstwhile sex offenders and prostitution (though these are real issues). I would have at least liked to see something at a minimum acknowledging that men have the right to choose whether or not to consent to sex. Some men tend to think that women always consent, which feminists rightly criticize. However, virtually all of society--femin…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 10:40 PM
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Abortion rights are still a big thing worldwide. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2012/1114/1224326575203.html I'm sure one of the anti-abortion people will be around soon to tell me why 2 1/2 days of fetal life was worth the death of an actual born, adult woman, and I'm sure looking forward to hearing it.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 05:56 PM
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We already know what feminists are going to say--"everything." Of course, what the title means is "What do MRAs think feminists are right about," because "right" doesn't exist in a vacuum. If we ask "What do feminists think feminists are right about?" The answer is uninformative. I'm equally interested in hearing "What do MRAs think MRAs are right about?" Because the answer is the same, and equally uninformative.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 05:55 PM
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Oh, I got the "sarcasm," as you can clearly tell by my not responding to your post as if you thought it was genuine progress. You understand that's what's involved in "getting" sarcasm, right? Usually if people aren't laughing at your joke, it's because it's a crappy joke, not because they didn't "get it."
/r/MensRights14/11/12 11:34 AM
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The "third world" is more than just refugees in war zones.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 07:56 AM
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OK, you see, jokes have logic to them, and they rely on something called framing. In this one, you are mapping a mother/child frame onto a girlfriend/boyfriend frame. In order for this joke to be funny, this mapping has to ring true, and if it does, congratulations, you're in a dysfunctional relationship where a mothering dynamic has formed!
/r/MensRights14/11/12 06:17 AM
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Call of Duty III: Red Flag
/r/MensRights14/11/12 06:08 AM
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Wow, that must be one of the quickest and most flagrant backpedals I've ever seen. You just said "Gender differences in fashion are...because the genders look different. For example, X." I gave you a completely opposite account of X, one which completely contradicts yours, which you responded to with "obviously." And yes, it's a men's rights issue. It just happens to be a men's rights issue that you, personally, aren't interested in or concerned about. (And that's perfectly fine!) But those are …
/r/MensRights14/11/12 01:40 AM
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I didn't vote on your post, but it's a sterling example of how the MRA movement still harbors misogyny and even misandry! You've decided that things associated with women (not just biologically associated with the female body, like douching and tampons, but cultural artifacts like clothing and nail polish as well) are worthy of contempt and derision, as are the men who choose to adorn themselves in this way. Nail polish is just an adornment, nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't even hinder man…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 01:33 AM
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Haha, wow, you're bad at this. How can you manage to get the general idea, but so utterly mess up the specifics? First of all, nail polish is completely unrelated to sexual dimorphism because fingernails are not sexually dimorphic! Second of all, a big formless dress is the perfect, most flattering attire to the severely overweight, since it hides the fat rolls and can't reveal fat disgusting skin every time someone raises their arms or bends over, separating their pants and shirt. Overweight me…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 01:18 AM
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I don't see why this isn't getting upvoted more. It's a great example of a men's rights and autonomy issue from outside the U.S. stage. This is exactly the kind of thing we should be paying attention to.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 05:41 AM
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I think it's quite possible he mistook the sex of the person he was looking at, who was after all probably distinguishable as little more than a drenched figure in the storm.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 06:49 PM
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Linguist here. You're way out of your depth on this one.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 06:10 PM
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Here's what I think happened: You're totally right, internet communication lacks that vitally important component--body language--that determines so much of how we see each other She's known this guy for 7 months. She's already seen plenty of signs of his creepbagdoughscumface-ness, she's seen the bro stuff. Presumably, if she's keen on inviting him over, they've at least talked on the phone, and she should have been able to get a handle on him by then, though I'll admit that it's possible she's…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 05:50 PM
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The stupid, it burns! As some of you know, Derek (socialistscum) came to visit me over the summer. We had been “internet dating” up until that point, so we were expecting his trip to be incredible. Okay, incredible trip, coming right up! I told him multiple times, including as soon as we saw each other for the first time, that I didn’t feel comfortable with him and that I didn’t think we could be sexual. Okay, so you just invited your 7 month internet boyfriend over for an "incredible" visit, an…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 04:31 PM
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I have rarely seen such egregious acceptance of obviously reluctant compliance as consent on this board. Really? You've seen this only "Rarely"? There are two posters in this very discussion suggesting that being blackmailed into sex counts as consent. Personally I'm not interested in splitting the hairs in that particular discussion, because I think it kind of misses the point, but I wouldn't have even said anything if I hadn't literally just got done reading some posts showing egregious accept…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 07:59 AM
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Thank you. These stories mean a lot to me. One of the things I struggled with a lot growing up as a boy was the distinct feeling that no problems or challenges I faced would ever be acknowledged or recognized. Any problem a man has, no matter how externally motivated, is somehow understood as a personal failing of his character which devalues him. Romantic, financial, emotional difficulties, all devalue him and make him considered less worthy of support and understanding, which in turn drives hi…
/r/MensRights11/11/12 09:40 PM
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Yeah, the idea is that trans women "report back" to the Patriarchy. They are also presumed to be "accepted" by Patriarchy, which proves how evil they are. (I'm not sure what establishment the radfems are imagining when they envision trans* acceptance, because violence against trans people is the single most legitimated and ignored type of gender violence in society (trans*>male>female). My impression from the backgrounds of most radfems indicate women with a lifetime history of being exploited b…
/r/MensRights11/11/12 09:25 PM
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I think selecting some quotes will expose the cognitive dissonance here: This is from an "older feminist." (We all know how older people are known for accepting changing social climates, right?) Bacchetta said: "We have a long way to go, and the idea that things are OK, that people aren't thinking about it because they feel like their lives are OK, is also a part of the problem." "They get a rude awakening when they're in a workplace or when they see what the actual statistics are for women," sa…
/r/MensRights11/11/12 12:36 AM
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God forbid someone spend 2 hours away from reddit. I'm not taking a side either way in the matter, but c'mon.
/r/MensRights10/11/12 04:34 AM
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Well, it's a complicated field, to say the least, and I'm no expert. However, there's evidence that, in the MtF panoply, some men have feminization fetishes (as people tend to have all kinds of diverse fetishes) and sometimes try to pursue gratification of this fetish by pursuing sex change therapy of some kind. In many cases, they may not even consciously be aware that they aren't in fact trans*. (Since experience is relative, and we can't step 'inside' someone else's mind and realize that, per…
/r/MensRights10/11/12 12:26 AM
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Fair, thanks. I'm a linguist and tend to be pretty permissive with uses of language and metonymy, but I guess some people index meaning in certain grammatical constructions.
/r/MensRights10/11/12 12:06 AM
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Oh. My. Goodness. No it's not. 10 years is not even a long time in the context of a generation. It's not even time enough to raise a child from birth to reproductive age (the BARE MINIMUM length of time for a generation). Also, how do you come to the realization that you're so historically ignorant that you didn't know whether female politicians began to become successful sometime closer to 1922 or 2004, and still feel qualified to comment on the issue?
/r/MensRights08/11/12 12:31 PM
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I don't know how old you are, but 10 years is not a "long-ass time" in any historically meaningful time scale.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 04:42 AM
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Nope, using the term to refer to the fetish is a recent development.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 02:52 AM
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Strongly suggest upvoting to draw more attention to this lunacy.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 01:56 AM
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Yes, although I'm arguing in another thread against taking gender out of the equation, this is a good point. Abusers of any gender are crafty at using any tool at their disposal, including the legal system, which is after all a punitive system of institutional power that doesn't really care about much besides its own self-propagation. Whether that means pandering to protectiveness of women or just hounding anyone accused in order to justify its own existence, the institutional motivation will be…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 09:54 PM
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And? Are you suggesting this whole incident is imagined or fabricated? I suppose that's a possibility. Or you could also look to the title of this post where it says "My story" and realize that maybe it's meant to address the issues behind one incident. Trends and generalities in human social behavior do not have independent existence in the world. They are conceptualizations across an aggregate of unique circumstances where individual actors make choices based on complicated influences. Underst…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 09:10 PM
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I dunno, dude, maybe you could check out any of the other dozens of posts here of either personal experiences or news story where female-on-male violence is legitimized and victims are stripped of recourse. This is a story about one human who used gender dynamics as a weapon. With female perpetrators this usually means severe emotional abuse and bludgeonings with a sympathetic legal system. If it had been a male perpetrator, it would more likely have been familiar patterns of physical violence a…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 07:22 PM
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I'll give them one thing. The "tips" are gender neutral. That's kind of nice.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 06:18 AM
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The male counterpart of the manicure and the fancy undies is nice cologne and a fancy car (i.e. things that are really for him but which you might find appealing). Paying for a meal, buying gifts, etc. are transactions where value is transferred from one part to another. Now on the one hand, I definitely agree that one should show some engagement with a date and the relationship possibilities, and when it comes to paying for the date itself, I find that the "Whoever makes the invitation pays the…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 01:33 AM
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(joking btw:)
/r/MensRights07/11/12 01:03 AM
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Good thing this kind of incident can only happen in Target!
/r/MensRights07/11/12 01:02 AM
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Yeah, then she interprets that as "OMG You threatened to molest my child!" and would go absolutely ballistic. I would advise against this.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 12:52 AM
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Yeah to be fair, I came back to mention that that was a mischaracterization. My bad. But anyway, I seriously doubt most actual trans (like, that go through with it) are after some power play. They go both ways, and it's not an easy life.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 01:22 PM
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I thought only rad-fems were dumb enough to believe that trans had all kind of special privileges. First of all, "all physical evidence" does not point to the contrary. Neurological study provides strong evidence that the brains of trans people are structurally different from people who are happy with their born sex (although there are few organizations willing to fund or spend time on this kind of research). Second, MtFs are one of the most despised groups in our entire society and experience c…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 12:24 PM
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Did I wander onto RadfemHub by mistake?
/r/MensRights06/11/12 12:15 PM
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" if you can have a parade where you are wearing nothing but daisy dukes and glitter and the reaction from onlookers is, at worst, "Ugh, that's annoying.", you're not that goddamned oppressed." What idea do you think the Daisy Dukes & glitter thing is supposed to be conveying (along with a profaniity-laced denial of their life experience), in this celebrated upvoted comment? Are we supposed to find this to be a noble and dignified image, or is it maybe meant to be uncomplimentary?
/r/MensRights06/11/12 09:23 AM
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How did you leapfrog from "men and women have different hormonal concentrations" to some nonsense about people acting immature? Do you even know what hormones are? (Hint: It's not just slang for a bad mood.)
/r/MensRights06/11/12 02:42 AM
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Check out this article from Jezebel, citing a Reddit thread. A man is coerced into believing himself a rapist for giving bad drunken head: http://jezebel.com/5929544/rapists-explain-themselves-on-reddit-and-we-should-listen It's the entry under "Peer Pressure:"
/r/MensRights06/11/12 02:17 AM
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What is with the absurdly specific scenarios? I can only assume you're being facetious and I'm being trolled, this is so blatant, but since there are people out there that actually believe this shit, I'll take a roll. Gay people have in fact been "lynched" frequently. It's called gay bashing. Ever heard of Matthew Shepard? Gays were and are frequent targets of police violence as well as vigilante individual violence. They were and are beaten for walking -out- of gay bars. Google Stonewall riots,…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 02:10 AM
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Granting "personhood" to the unborn is the ultimate and most irrational form of White Knighting. The disparity is simple biology. You are acting as if the two choices forced are equivalent. Women can presently force men into a financial support obligation, a shared obligation. Is that moral? Hell no! But that doesn't mean that men get to "even the score" by not only forcing women into that same shared obligation, but also to force on them an obligation that is theirs alone, namely that of bearin…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 09:48 PM
1

You honestly believe that since child support exists, men should have a controlling stake in how women deal with their own pregnancy? That's not even close to a reasonable comparison. Firstly, both partners are responsible for the financial welfare of the child. Both partners do not undergo pregnancy. Possibly being drawn into shared obligations for support does not entitle you to control over something that can only physically be completed by the woman. It's up to her to decide whether she want…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 05:47 PM
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I mean, seriously, MRAs advocate for men being able to sign a form in order to unilaterally absolve themselves of responsibility for a pregnancy. That's it, a signature and men are scot free. Yet, we also come here and claim women have a moral imperative to consult with the father of a fetus which they are physically carrying in their bodies in order to make a decision about an abortion? Double standard? Does anybody actually fail to see the disconnect here?
/r/MensRights05/11/12 05:07 PM
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So what? I'll point it out again, men's Feels are irrelevant here. Just like women's Feels about circumcision shouldn't determine whether men get mutilated, and their Feels about the drunken consensual sex they had shouldn't determine whether their partner goes to prison for rape, men's Feels about an embryo don't determine what women have to do with their bodies. Also, your previous post conflates parenthood with pregnancy, which should have been easy to avoid in your response, considering the …
/r/MensRights05/11/12 05:01 PM
1

Until the baby has been born, the man's contribution is a sperm cell and whatever material support he gives to the mother. Any other sense of ownership he feels at this point is just that, a FEELING. Jilted women shouldn't have the right to cut off your penis over their Feelings, and neither should men be allowed to force a women to carry a pregnancy to term because his Feelings might be hurt if she doesn't. It's baffling to me how many so-called MRAs immediately forget the entire concept of ind…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 04:50 PM
1

It does if she gets an abortion. What's so hard to grasp about that?
/r/MensRights05/11/12 04:43 PM
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It is most certainly not just as much the father's child, not until the bugger is out of the womb and the father is actually capable of doing something for the child's welfare besides aiding the woman actually carrying the baby. There is ZERO comparison to be made between ejaculating once and carrying a baby to term. I mean, seriously, are we in an MRA forum, or is this some kind of reverse feminism where men's feelings matter more than women's own bodies?
/r/MensRights05/11/12 09:37 AM
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IMO, If he wants a surrogate, he should hire a surrogate.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 09:28 AM
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Well the same politicians who espouse this sort of attitude toward abortion usually aren't keen on making birth control accessible either, so these two are not really separable in many political contexts.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 09:22 AM
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There is a HUGE difference between: "I wanted a baby but my girlfriend got an abortion! Hurumph! I'll have to actually go meet someone with the same goals as me!" AND "I don't want a baby, but my boyfriend does, so I guess I'll spend the better part of a year incubating a life form inside me, sacrificing some bone density, altering the shape of my body, and finally giving birth." I'm sorry, but ejaculating once does not make you anywhere NEAR a 50/50 partner in the pregnancy compared to the pers…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 09:20 AM
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How the hell is this getting downvoted?
/r/MensRights05/11/12 09:07 AM
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I'm guessing you're calling yourself a "feminist" because you've been schooled in progressive circles to believe that's just a natural, good thing to be. I've been there, I'm politically left, and I'm highly supportive of women's issues, and believe there are things like reproductive rights that are in fact under constant attack. However, feminist discourse is poisoned with dogma. It isn't hard to see. If you're a feminist, presumably you've read some feminist literature. Pick some up, leaf thro…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 09:04 AM
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It is entirely immoral for a man to force a woman to bear a child, certainly not merely for having been the source of some of its DNA. Even this "financial abortion" thing MRAs are talking about is a bit questionable, as it could be used as a tool of abuse and coercion against women (Instead of paternity abuse where a woman intentionally risks pregnancy to trap a man, a man can intentionally risk impregnating a woman and then threaten financial abortion, leaving her without support, if she doesn…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 01:41 AM
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I'd say "can be inclusive" or "is sometimes inclusive" but otherwise agree with the sentiment 100%.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 08:56 PM
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Yes, the "double standard" in this case is really no one's friend. It's two very different restrictive and stifling standards of dress based on sex.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 06:06 PM
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I was, thanks.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:44 PM
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